From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Oct 1 04:35:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 04:35:00 -0000 Subject: patches for xfree86 References: <199910010904.LAA07107@bernin.grnbl_domain> Message-ID: > > If you can post (or put on the web) a list of what needs > to be done and how > to go about doing it, I may be able to find some time to > work on it. In > general, I've found that lists like that get taken up by > eager programmers > if the 'what and how to do it' are well described, as the > learning curve is > smaller. > > Nils. > Hi Nils, Thanks for message and your continued interest in Cygwin-xfre project. Last night, I received instructions from Cygnus System Admin, on how to upload web pages. I will work on web pages this weekend and hopefully upload them. The patches for Xfree86 official code base were for GCC/Cygwin and MSVC. To avoid confrontation with commercial X-server vendors, I submitted patches for MSVC too. The X-server would be developed with GCC/Cygwin, but MSVC would allow users to compile X11 libs and clients for development purposes. The major objection from commercial X vendors was the future development of Win32 products for Xfree86/Win32. Regards Suhaib > > > In message > , "Suhaib > Si > ddiqi" writes: > > > > > >Our patches for Xfree86 4.0 (in dvelopemnt) had been accepted by > >xfree86.org > >It is a big patch file therefore they (Xfree86.org) > needs to filter > >it and make sure cygwin patches do not break other OS. > > > >I am still looking for help for devices drivers issue. > i posted to > >several comp.os.windows.* news groups. A few of the developers > >replied. > >Yariv, owner and maintainer of, www.internal.com also > have agreed > >to give expert advice. He would not be able to do > actual coding due > >lack of free time. > > > >Suhaib > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Oct 2 19:09:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 19:09:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages Message-ID: Now Cygwin-Xfree web pages are available at: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree Please let me know your comments and suggestions. BTW: At the top Cygwi-Xfree banner is missing. I could not get GIF file uploaded. I am aware of it and will fix it as soon as I get a response from Jason (System Admin). Suhaib From trevorf@deakin.edu.au Sat Oct 2 20:24:00 1999 From: trevorf@deakin.edu.au (Trevor) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:24:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages References: Message-ID: <026201bf0d4e$bed4f1e0$2eda6ccb@voyager> Is it also possible to have the current source trees to be made available via CVS. Hopefully, this would aid/speed up development? Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi To: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com Sent: Sunday, 3 October 1999 11:38 Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages > > Now Cygwin-Xfree web pages are available at: > > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree > > Please let me know your comments and suggestions. > > BTW: At the top Cygwi-Xfree banner is missing. I could > not get GIF file uploaded. I am aware of it > and will fix it as soon as I get a response from Jason (System Admin). > > Suhaib > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Oct 3 07:54:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 07:54:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages References: <026201bf0d4e$bed4f1e0$2eda6ccb@voyager> Message-ID: Hi Trevor, It is a good idea, but I cannot make decision on it. I will forward your message to Chris Faylor. He could comment on it. Regards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Trevor > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:24 PM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Re: Cygwin-xfree web pages > > > Is it also possible to have the current source trees to be made available > via CVS. > Hopefully, this would aid/speed up development? > > Trevor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi > To: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > > Sent: Sunday, 3 October 1999 11:38 > Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages > > > > > > Now Cygwin-Xfree web pages are available at: > > > > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree > > > > Please let me know your comments and suggestions. > > > > BTW: At the top Cygwi-Xfree banner is missing. I could > > not get GIF file uploaded. I am aware of it > > and will fix it as soon as I get a response from Jason (System Admin). > > > > Suhaib > > > From cgf@cygnus.com Sun Oct 3 11:58:00 1999 From: cgf@cygnus.com (Chris Faylor) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 11:58:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages References: <026201bf0d4e$bed4f1e0$2eda6ccb@voyager> Message-ID: <19991003150111.A11538@cygnus.com> I don't have any plans to institute CVS right now. Sorry. -chris On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:53:11AM -0400, Suhaib M. Siddiqi wrote: > >Hi Trevor, > >It is a good idea, but I cannot make decision on it. I will >forward your message to Chris Faylor. He could >comment on it. > >Regards > >Suhaib > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com >> [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Trevor >> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:24 PM >> To: Cygwin-Xfree >> Subject: Re: Cygwin-xfree web pages >> >> >> Is it also possible to have the current source trees to be made available >> via CVS. >> Hopefully, this would aid/speed up development? >> >> Trevor >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi >> To: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com >> >> Sent: Sunday, 3 October 1999 11:38 >> Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages >> >> >> > >> > Now Cygwin-Xfree web pages are available at: >> > >> > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree >> > >> > Please let me know your comments and suggestions. >> > >> > BTW: At the top Cygwi-Xfree banner is missing. I could >> > not get GIF file uploaded. I am aware of it >> > and will fix it as soon as I get a response from Jason (System Admin). From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Oct 3 17:55:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 17:55:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages References: <19991003150111.A11538@cygnus.com> Message-ID: Trevor You or others can always e-mail the patches to me directly. I do maintain my personal CVS at my Windows Nt machine. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Faylor [ mailto:cgf@cygnus.com ] > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 3:01 PM > To: ssiddiqi@ipass.net > Cc: Trevor; Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Re: Cygwin-xfree web pages > > > I don't have any plans to institute CVS right now. > > Sorry. > > -chris > > On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:53:11AM -0400, Suhaib M. Siddiqi wrote: > > > >Hi Trevor, > > > >It is a good idea, but I cannot make decision on it. I will > >forward your message to Chris Faylor. He could > >comment on it. > > > >Regards > > > >Suhaib > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > >> [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Trevor > >> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:24 PM > >> To: Cygwin-Xfree > >> Subject: Re: Cygwin-xfree web pages > >> > >> > >> Is it also possible to have the current source trees to be > made available > >> via CVS. > >> Hopefully, this would aid/speed up development? > >> > >> Trevor > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi > >> To: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > >> > >> Sent: Sunday, 3 October 1999 11:38 > >> Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Now Cygwin-Xfree web pages are available at: > >> > > >> > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree > >> > > >> > Please let me know your comments and suggestions. > >> > > >> > BTW: At the top Cygwi-Xfree banner is missing. I could > >> > not get GIF file uploaded. I am aware of it > >> > and will fix it as soon as I get a response from Jason > (System Admin). > From sssiddiqi@ipass.net Mon Oct 4 14:28:00 1999 From: sssiddiqi@ipass.net (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:28:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-xfree web pages References: <001401bf0e76$7ea2c6f0$9952668c@draper.com> Message-ID: Ok, it is static now. I have no idea what made the GIG breath. i created it in GIMPS on Linux and did not apply any special effects. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold G. Andrews II [ mailto:handrews@draper.com ] > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 10:41 AM > To: ssiddiqi@ipass.net > Subject: RE: Cygwin-xfree web pages > > > Suhaib, > > You wrote: > > > BTW: At the top Cygwi-Xfree banner is missing. I could > > not get GIF file uploaded. I am aware of it > > and will fix it as soon as I get a response from Jason > (System Admin). > > > > Well, I just visited the site, and the GIF was there (so > I guess you were > eventually able to upload it). It might just be me, but > the way it flashes > is terribly distracting. Perhaps you could use a static > (i.e. not animated) > GIF instead? > > -Andy > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Oct 5 04:21:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:21:00 -0000 Subject: Frame Buffer X server References: Message-ID: > > Well, I apparently can't post to the list.... > > Your mail server is listed in an RBL, so I will not > accept mail from you. > You should contact your local mail administrators and > get your mail > server fixed. For more information about my use of the > RBLs, see > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/ml/#rbls > > So I figured I'd try emailing you directly.... No problems, you can e-mail directly. I would be glad to foward your message to the list. However, I suggest you also complain to your System Administrators. RBL denial means, your SMTP server is list in ORBS ( http://www.orbs.org ). A SMTP server can only get listed in ORBS if its System Administrators are running it as an Open Relay System which had been used by Spamers for sending out junk mails. ORBS usually send three warnings to System Administrators after they locate an Open Relay SMTP server which had been abused by spamers. If System Admins do not fix it then ORBS black list it. Any organization subscribing to ORBS database reject the mails from a SMTP server which is in ORBS. Cygnus mirror ORBS to control junk mails to its Mailing List. > I'm having great difficulty grasping the status of this > project. It kind > of seems like there's a few different possibilities where > we could be real > close to having a functional X server under cygwin.. but > I'm not sure. The current status is the we need a driver which can provide /dev/mmap and /dev/iopl, like Holger Veit's driver for OS/2. OS/2 had a similar situation, like Windows, where OS takes the ownership of the devices. He wrote a driver to circumvent this. I will posting a copy of one of his message under "Status" on the web page. His mail explains how and what he accomplished by writing xf86sup.sys driver. The Xfree86 code compiles now, but produces non-functional X-server executable. We need to add some code in /xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support, which could features "like" Holger Veit's driver. > > I'm not familiar w/ frame buffer X servers... I'm aware > they exist, and > function a bit differently than normal. Xvfb server is not a real X-server... means you cannot use it as a substitute for X-server. It is a virtual frame buffer server and was written by MIT folks, not XFree86 folks. It is used for testing etc. > > I'd like to see the entire output of that... it almost > looks like you need > to fix your configuration file... do you have one ? Xvfb does not use XF86Config file. You usually use it by by starting it on a second screen, i.e. xvfb :1 -screen xxxxxx Until we cannot get the primary Xserver excutable functional XVFB is not of much use. > > > Would be nice to get some people who are involved in > coding the main > distribution of XFre86 into this project. Have you tried > contacting any ? I agree... BUT, I am on the XFree86 Developers list. The developers who developed XFree86 for Unices, on XFree86 team, are not interested in Win32. They lack the knowledge of Win32 therefore, it is my responsibility to get it work. Regards Suhaib > __________________________________________________________________ > PGP fingerprint = 03 5B 9B A0 16 33 91 2F A5 77 BC EE 43 71 98 D4 > darxus@op.net / http://www.op.net/~darxus > Join the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search > http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Oct 5 05:13:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 05:13:00 -0000 Subject: xf86sup.sys Message-ID: Jan Rouvillain is studying xf86sup.sys driver and ask programming questions about xf86sup.sys driver. I have posted a copy of Holger Veit's e-mail at cygwin-xfree URL, or you can access it directly: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree/xf86sup.html You may find Holger e-mail very informative. Suhaib From bianchi@www.arte.unipi.it Tue Oct 5 06:31:00 1999 From: bianchi@www.arte.unipi.it (Federico Bianchi) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 06:31:00 -0000 Subject: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and Windows NT References: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > Jan Rouvillain is studying xf86sup.sys driver and ask > programming questions about xf86sup.sys driver. > I have posted a copy of Holger Veit's e-mail at cygwin-xfree URL, > or you can access it directly: > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree/xf86sup.html > > You may find Holger e-mail very informative. It is - and the XF86Sup.sys (whose source I have never seen) is actually one of the neatest hacks I have ever seen in the OS/2 environment. I had a discussion thread with Suhaib a couple of months ago about both the XFree86 port to Win32 and the XF86Sup.sys approach chosen for the OS/2 one. I used (and modified) the files he gave me to work with two generic drivers available under NT, i.e., PortIO.sys and MapMem.sys (the names are pretty explainatory: PortIO lets user mode apps perform IN and OUTs to devices, while MapMem maps a chunk of physical memory into an app virtual space), but so far my test applications consistently give BSOD on an NT 4.0SP5, S3 equipped machine. I had a similar trouble at the end of 1997 (I had to access SVGA/VESA under the NT VDM/DPMI subsystem), and I found it was due to the optimizations the NT display driver used when switching modes. While mantaining my doubts over the blind-port approach (Suhaib knows, should anyone be interested, I will let you know why and what the alternatives are IMHO), I am therefore planning to write a very simple "shim" driver to let user mode programs access the VESA VBE 2.0+ protected mode SPIs, with particular regard to the mode switching functions - even though I am wondering whether the generic call gate interface might be enough. As usual, I have very little "predictable" spare time, but I will let you know of any progress. Best regards to you all Federico Bianchi Dipartimento di Storia delle Arti Universita` degli Studi di Pisa p.zza S.Matteo in Soarta, 2 - 56127 Pisa (Italy) tel. +39-050-587111 (cent.), +39-050-587224 (uff.) fax. +39-050-580128; e-mail: =================================================== !DISCLAIMER!: my e-mail reflects _my_own_ opinions! =================================================== From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Oct 5 06:47:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 06:47:00 -0000 Subject: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and Windows NT References: Message-ID: Hi Federico< > It is - and the XF86Sup.sys (whose source I have never > seen) is actually > one of the neatest hacks I have ever seen in the OS/2 environment. Actually the XF86SUP.SYS code is at Holger's web pages. But most of the references there talk about binary releases only. Somewhere on the same URL you will find a small word "here" and takes you to XF86SUP.SYS code. Anyway, whoever wants it for development purposes, could e-mail me. I would be gald to e-mail the code. It is a 230 KB ZIP file. Holger Veit did gave us permission to modify, hack or do whatever we like with his XF86SUP.SYS driver source code... except to complain to him ;-) > > I had a discussion thread with Suhaib a couple of months > ago about both > the XFree86 port to Win32 and the XF86Sup.sys approach > chosen for the OS/2 > one. I used (and modified) the files he gave me to work > with two generic > drivers available under NT, i.e., PortIO.sys and > MapMem.sys (the names are > pretty explainatory: PortIO lets user mode apps perform > IN and OUTs to > devices, while MapMem maps a chunk of physical memory > into an app virtual > space), but so far my test applications consistently give > BSOD on an NT > 4.0SP5, S3 equipped machine. I had a similar trouble at > the end of 1997 > (I had to access SVGA/VESA under the NT VDM/DPMI > subsystem), and I found > it was due to the optimizations the NT display driver > used when switching > modes. > > While mantaining my doubts over the blind-port approach > (Suhaib knows, > should anyone be interested, I will let you know why and what the > alternatives are IMHO), You might consider working with Jan Rouvilain? He is looking into the XF86SUP.SYS code. You know a lot more about devices, as well as Jan. I am practially ilerate on handeling devices code therefore had been looking for experts help to solve the last hurdels. Regards Suhaib >I am therefore planning to write > a very simple > "shim" driver to let user mode programs access the VESA > VBE 2.0+ protected > mode SPIs, with particular regard to the mode switching > functions - even > though I am wondering whether the generic call gate > interface might be > enough. As usual, I have very little "predictable" spare > time, but I will > let you know of any progress. > > Best regards to you all > > Federico Bianchi > Dipartimento di Storia delle Arti > Universita` degli Studi di Pisa > p.zza S.Matteo in Soarta, 2 - 56127 > Pisa (Italy) > tel. +39-050-587111 (cent.), > +39-050-587224 (uff.) > fax. +39-050-580128; e-mail: > > > =================================================== > !DISCLAIMER!: my e-mail reflects > _my_own_ opinions! > > =================================================== > From mattl@d2k.com Tue Oct 12 17:29:00 1999 From: mattl@d2k.com (Matt Lewandowsky) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:29:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X11 newbie question Message-ID: <9569BB51CAE7D211AB9C0090273CB7591E9264@d2k-pdc.d2k.com> OK... since there appears to be no FAQ for X11R6.4 for Cygwin anywhere, I'm going to ask a simple question: I've downloaded x11r6.4-cygwin-ss-dev.tar.gz, but I can't start X because I don't have /usr/X11R6/bin/XGGI. (Or any other "Unixy" X server, as far as I can tell...) Am I stuck with Exceed? If not, what do I do? I want to dump my Exceed NT install, but can't if I need it. :( TIA, Matt Lewandowsky From mattl@d2k.com Tue Oct 12 17:40:00 1999 From: mattl@d2k.com (Matt Lewandowsky) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:40:00 -0000 Subject: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and Windows NT Message-ID: <9569BB51CAE7D211AB9C0090273CB7591E9269@d2k-pdc.d2k.com> Well, AFAIK, only DOS Console apps are allowed to directly access video hardware in NT. (And therefore change VESA modes.) I use a DPMS screen saver that takes advantage of this "loophole" by running a DOS app that essentially does a "mode co40" in full-screen mode and then performing the VESA call. I'm not sure how helpful this is, but it's about all I know about video in NT. (And still more than I wanted to know...) Just out of curiosity, did the mentioned code run in Win 9x? My $0.02, Matt Lewandowsky -----Original Message----- From: Federico Bianchi [ mailto:bianchi@www.arte.unipi.it ] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 6:32 AM To: Suhaib Siddiqi Cc: XFree86 over CygWin mailing list Subject: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and Windows NT I had a discussion thread with Suhaib a couple of months ago about both the XFree86 port to Win32 and the XF86Sup.sys approach chosen for the OS/2 one. I used (and modified) the files he gave me to work with two generic drivers available under NT, i.e., PortIO.sys and MapMem.sys (the names are pretty explainatory: PortIO lets user mode apps perform IN and OUTs to devices, while MapMem maps a chunk of physical memory into an app virtual space), but so far my test applications consistently give BSOD on an NT 4.0SP5, S3 equipped machine. I had a similar trouble at the end of 1997 (I had to access SVGA/VESA under the NT VDM/DPMI subsystem), and I found it was due to the optimizations the NT display driver used when switching modes. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Oct 12 17:46:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:46:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X11 newbie question References: <9569BB51CAE7D211AB9C0090273CB7591E9264@d2k-pdc.d2k.com> Message-ID: > > OK... since there appears to be no FAQ for X11R6.4 for Cygwin anywhere, > I'm going to ask a simple question: > > I've downloaded x11r6.4-cygwin-ss-dev.tar.gz, but I can't start X You downloaded it from my siddiqi.webjump.com? it is just a libs and clients. There is no X-server > because I don't have /usr/X11R6/bin/XGGI. waiting for John Fortin's DirectX for GGI. It is a lot fo work and we do it our spare time... cannot afford to put fulltime on it.. have to feed the family too ;-) > (Or any other "Unixy" X > server, as far as I can tell...) Am I stuck with Exceed? If not, what do > I do? Help me write XF86SUP.SYS for Win32. that will definitely be a way out of Exceed >I want to dump my Exceed NT install, but can't if I need it. :( Why do you want to dump Exceed? I think Exceed calims to be X11R6.x based? but when i went through their X-headers and extarcted symbols from their DLLs it sounds to me a mixture of X11R5 and R6.. no wonder why it is sort of slow particularly with MOTIF apps.. ;-) I may be wrong... Suhaib > > TIA, > > Matt Lewandowsky > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Oct 12 17:49:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:49:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X11 newbie question References: <9569BB51CAE7D211AB9C0090273CB7591E9264@d2k-pdc.d2k.com> Message-ID: Ummm forgot to mention, there is URL for cygwin-xfree now http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree and it says X-servers are not functional yet, work is in progress. Please note that X-server is huge project which often needs several developers and we have so far only 2 committed contributes... see cygwin-xfree URL Regards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Matt > Lewandowsky > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 8:29 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: Cygwin X11 newbie question > > > OK... since there appears to be no FAQ for X11R6.4 for Cygwin anywhere, > I'm going to ask a simple question: > > I've downloaded x11r6.4-cygwin-ss-dev.tar.gz, but I can't start X > because I don't have /usr/X11R6/bin/XGGI. (Or any other "Unixy" X > server, as far as I can tell...) Am I stuck with Exceed? If not, what do > I do? I want to dump my Exceed NT install, but can't if I need it. :( > > TIA, > > Matt Lewandowsky > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Oct 12 17:52:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:52:00 -0000 Subject: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and Windows NT References: <9569BB51CAE7D211AB9C0090273CB7591E9269@d2k-pdc.d2k.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Matt > Lewandowsky > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 8:39 PM > To: Federico Bianchi; Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: XFree86 over CygWin mailing list > Subject: RE: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and > Windows NT > > > Well, AFAIK, only DOS Console apps are allowed to directly access video > hardware in NT. (And therefore change VESA modes.) I use a DPMS screen > saver that takes advantage of this "loophole" by running a DOS app that > essentially does a "mode co40" in full-screen mode and then performing > the VESA call. I'm not sure how helpful this is, but it's about all I > know about video in NT. (And still more than I wanted to know...) Just > out of curiosity, did the mentioned code run in Win 9x? The mentioned code runs on OS/2 and OS/2 is similar story as WinNT. i trhink a device driver guru could definitely hack it to work on NT too Regards Suhaib > > My $0.02, > > Matt Lewandowsky > > -----Original Message----- > From: Federico Bianchi [ mailto:bianchi@www.arte.unipi.it ] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 6:32 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: XFree86 over CygWin mailing list > Subject: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and > Windows NT > > > I had a discussion thread with Suhaib a couple of months ago about both > the XFree86 port to Win32 and the XF86Sup.sys approach chosen for the > OS/2 > one. I used (and modified) the files he gave me to work with two generic > drivers available under NT, i.e., PortIO.sys and MapMem.sys (the names > are > pretty explainatory: PortIO lets user mode apps perform IN and OUTs to > devices, while MapMem maps a chunk of physical memory into an app > virtual > space), but so far my test applications consistently give BSOD on an NT > 4.0SP5, S3 equipped machine. I had a similar trouble at the end of 1997 > (I had to access SVGA/VESA under the NT VDM/DPMI subsystem), and I found > > it was due to the optimizations the NT display driver used when > switching > modes. > > From bianchi@www.arte.unipi.it Wed Oct 13 01:41:00 1999 From: bianchi@www.arte.unipi.it (Federico Bianchi) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:41:00 -0000 Subject: video mode change under NT 4.0 References: <9569BB51CAE7D211AB9C0090273CB7591E9269@d2k-pdc.d2k.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Matt Lewandowsky wrote: > Well, AFAIK, only DOS Console apps are allowed to directly access video > hardware in NT. (And therefore change VESA modes.) I use a DPMS screen > saver that takes advantage of this "loophole" by running a DOS app that > essentially does a "mode co40" in full-screen mode and then performing > the VESA call. I'm not sure how helpful this is, but it's about all I > know about video in NT. (And still more than I wanted to know...) Just > out of curiosity, did the mentioned code run in Win 9x? .... Are you sure you can do a VESA call under NT 4.0? I have been using it with either S3 or Matrox video cards, and the VESA INT 10h APIs are simply not available in the VDM environment (not even when they are running full screen). I made some experiments with DJGPP, a DOS graphics previewer and a cute small program, INT.COM, which came with the Interrupt List distribution. I actually didn't try DPMS APIs, nor I repeated the experiment on SP4 or later (I'll do an INT 10h AX=4F01h either this morning or tomorrow, just to keep on the safe side), but this was the result. Attaching and detaching a VDM is actually pretty easy, and might even be reasonable if it worked properly to grab the protected mode API pointer). As of 9x, this is actually a non-issue: the restrictions are much lazier, and DPMI applications are quite more powerful. Best regards .... > -----Original Message----- > From: Federico Bianchi [ mailto:bianchi@www.arte.unipi.it ] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 6:32 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: XFree86 over CygWin mailing list > Subject: XFree under alien systems - the XF86Sup.sys approach and > Windows NT > > > I had a discussion thread with Suhaib a couple of months ago about both > the XFree86 port to Win32 and the XF86Sup.sys approach chosen for the > OS/2 > one. I used (and modified) the files he gave me to work with two generic > drivers available under NT, i.e., PortIO.sys and MapMem.sys (the names > are > pretty explainatory: PortIO lets user mode apps perform IN and OUTs to > devices, while MapMem maps a chunk of physical memory into an app > virtual > space), but so far my test applications consistently give BSOD on an NT > 4.0SP5, S3 equipped machine. I had a similar trouble at the end of 1997 > (I had to access SVGA/VESA under the NT VDM/DPMI subsystem), and I found > > it was due to the optimizations the NT display driver used when > switching > modes. > > From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Mon Oct 25 14:34:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:34:00 -0000 Subject: probs Message-ID: I hope this gets through.. From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Mon Oct 25 15:30:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:30:00 -0000 Subject: xgalaga Message-ID: It looks like my problem is with XGalaga since I've compiled some other X examples.. Do you know anyone who has compiled Mozilla yet? URL: http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/freshmeat/xgalaga/ Should be a good place to find it.. Best I can see the problem has something to do with libsprite.a, all the undefined links are in that archive. I can't figure out the problem though.. -----Original Message----- From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:sssiddiqi@ipass.net ] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 3:04 PM To: Mike MacDonald Subject: RE: Hello! Can you send me URL for Xgalaga source code? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 12:34 PM > To: 'ssiddiqi@ipass.net' > Subject: RE: Hello! > > > Laugh, either do I.. I have fixed my environment, and > mounted binary. I'm > going to try un-taring my X11 distribution again. As a > note, the only > thing I've had trouble compiling so far is xgalaga.. > Though, thats the only > x app I've been able to try to compile so far... > > I do have a few things to try though.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 4:51 PM > To: Mike MacDonald > Subject: RE: Hello! > > > No idea what you are doing wrong. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 3:24 PM > > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > > Subject: RE: Hello! > > > > > > Ok, well, if I re-tar xvzf them it fixes the binmode mount > > probs.. Hmm.. I > > think I might have a clue of whats going on now.. > > > From vzell@de.oracle.com Tue Oct 26 04:24:00 1999 From: vzell@de.oracle.com (Dr. Volker Zell) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:24:00 -0000 Subject: xgalaga References: Message-ID: >>>>> "Mike" == Mike MacDonald writes: Mike> It looks like my problem is with XGalaga since I've compiled Mike> some other X examples.. Do you know anyone who has compiled Mike> Mozilla yet? I tried: o Mosaic-src-2.7b5 - ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Mosaic/Unix/source/ It compiles almost out of the box. I'll see if I can find my patch somewhere. Ciao Volker From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Tue Oct 26 07:28:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:28:00 -0000 Subject: xgalaga Message-ID: Ok, I got it to compile.. I just had to move the libsprite/libsprite.a before the -lX11 and it compiled fine. Weird stuff with the compiler.. From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Tue Oct 26 08:21:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:21:00 -0000 Subject: speed Message-ID: I'm running a snapshot from a couple weeks ago, and it runs pretty slow.. Have the new snapshots sped up? Is there anything I can do to speed things up? I think that the B20.1 version was alot faster. From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Tue Oct 26 08:48:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:48:00 -0000 Subject: Pthreads Message-ID: Is there a pthread library I can compile out there for cygwin? I compiled glib with threads disabled, but threads would be nice.. Also, I haven't hit this yet, but I remember some stuff needing dynamically linked libraries.. Is there anything special I have to do for that? From earnie_boyd@yahoo.com Tue Oct 26 10:01:00 1999 From: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com (Earnie Boyd) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:01:00 -0000 Subject: speed Message-ID: <19991026170231.23619.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> --- Mike MacDonald wrote: > I'm running a snapshot from a couple weeks ago, and it runs pretty slow.. > Have the new snapshots sped up? Is there anything I can do to speed things > up? I think that the B20.1 version was alot faster. > I had downloaded the 10/22 snapshot and thought it to be much faster. I did notice that there is a lot more activity with every mounted device. I'm not currently in a position to explain further but maybe later today I can look at it again. Based on what I noticed and am thinking, if you have a networked path it could be slower. Try adding `mount a:\\ /a' to the list and watch what happens to the diskette drive when you do `ls' from the root directory. ===== Earnie Boyd < mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com > Newbies, please visit < http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gw32/index.html > (If you respond to the list, then please don't cc me) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Thu Oct 28 11:18:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm Message-ID: Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, but I'm getting: Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute was not compiled in, ignoring 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping stack trace to Eterm.exe.stackdump When I try to run it.. From cgf@cygnus.com Thu Oct 28 19:02:00 1999 From: cgf@cygnus.com (Chris Faylor) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:02:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm References: Message-ID: <19991028220508.A2823@cygnus.com> On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Mike MacDonald wrote: >Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, but I'm getting: > >Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute was not compiled >in, ignoring > 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 handle_exceptions: >Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping stack trace to >Eterm.exe.stackdump > >When I try to run it.. That's one of those 'run it under gdb' problems that just might be really obvious when you see the source code where the error occurs. cgf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Oct 29 03:55:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:55:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm References: <19991028220508.A2823@cygnus.com> Message-ID: does not eterm needs genome libs? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > Behalf Of Chris > Faylor > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:05 PM > To: Mike MacDonald > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > Subject: Re: Eterm > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Mike MacDonald wrote: > >Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, > but I'm getting: > > > >Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute > was not compiled > >in, ignoring > > 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 > handle_exceptions: > >Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > > 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping > stack trace to > >Eterm.exe.stackdump > > > >When I try to run it.. > > That's one of those 'run it under gdb' problems that just might be > really obvious when you see the source code where the > error occurs. > > cgf > From starksb@ebi.ac.uk Fri Oct 29 04:03:00 1999 From: starksb@ebi.ac.uk (David Starks-Browning) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:03:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm References: <19991028220508.A2823@cygnus.com> Message-ID: <14361.32508.705000.340779@bryce.ebi.ac.uk> On Friday 29 Oct 99, Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > does not eterm needs genome libs? > > Suhaib Would that be Human Genome or, say, C.elegans? (Sorry... :) David ------------------------------------------------------------------- David Starks-Browning | starksb@ebi.ac.uk EMBL Outstation -- | The European Bioinformatics Institute | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus | tel: +44 (1223) 494 616 Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SD, UK | fax: +44 (1223) 494 468 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Oct 29 04:43:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:43:00 -0000 Subject: VESA calls under WinNT References: Message-ID: Thanks for message. I am forwarding it to Cygwin-Xfree list because it might be of interest to others. If you think NT_xlib from rxvt can be extended to cover X-servers, would you mind working on it? As far as my knowledge of X11/MOTIF is concerned, it may require a major re-write of XFree86 code. most of the Xfree86 code is aseembeler language, therefore very tricky to port to non-Unix platforms. A couple of users are looking into devices drivers and vXD issues for xfree86. As far as DirectX is concerend, John Fortin is working on it. He told me a few weeks ago that it was also not as easy as we thought in the begining. Regards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Federico Bianchi [ mailto:bianchi@pc-arte2.arte.unipi.it ] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:49 AM > To: Matt Lewandowsky > Cc: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: VESA calls under WinNT > > > > Hello. > > - I have tested the VESA calls (INT 10h, AX=006Ah, > AX=4F00h and AX=4F01h) > under the Windows NT 4.0SP5 and Windows 2000 VDM > environments. They > don't work. Period. Apart from the DPMS thing (maybe, I > have not tried > it myself), everything but the GDI/DirectX/Win32k.sys > can only access a > plain old VGA, unless the system itself is augmented > with some helper > driver. Quite disappointing - you really made me hope > there was a chance > to avoid that sort of vulnerability even in a direct port. > - I am carefully looking at (read: studying) the DirectX > 3 specs; only the > DirectDraw and DirectInput would be actually needed, > which would let us > avoid all the pains with the other components. COM is > not beautiful, but > I must admit it has a sound rationale behind it, after > all - and either > DirectDraw or DirectInput are not that terrible when > you come from a > non-GUI background. Then, I'll have to parse thoroughly > the DGA specs, > which I have only cursorily glanced at so far. > - the alternative might be enhancing the XLib over GDI32 > code, as used in > the CygWin port of rxvt, to encompass all the functionality of a > standard XLib. It is my understanding that, at least > once upon a time, > the other X11 components (Xt and all the widget libraries) were > implemented directly in terms of XLib, without too many > assumptions > about the environment they run on; after all, > DECwindows ran on VMS > before Windows 3.0 were available. A certain > performance boost might be > gained if using the INT 2Eh SVCs from Win32k.sys > instead of their Win32 > GDI32.DLL counterparts; this might be selected at > initialization time, > looking for the service table. Emanuele Aliberti sent > me the URL of an > article which comes of help here. > > Best regards to you all > > Federico Bianchi > Dipartimento di Storia delle Arti > Universita` degli Studi di Pisa > p.zza S.Matteo in Soarta, 2 - 56127 > Pisa (Italy) > tel. +39-050-587111 (cent.), > +39-050-587224 (uff.) > fax. +39-050-580128; e-mail: > > > =================================================== > !DISCLAIMER!: my e-mail reflects > _my_own_ opinions! > > =================================================== > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Oct 29 09:30:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:30:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm References: Message-ID: glib is GNOME lib. I am not aware of GNOME libs working without problems under Cygwin. Does it not require Linux kernel headers -- I mean to compile gnome libs? Whatever the case, just saying that you get ACCESS_Violation or software crashed, is not enough. USE GDB to debug your application and fix the bad pointers. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:16 AM > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > No, just ImageMagic, and glib, and gtk++, and the > graphics libs.. I have > all those compiled.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:51 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com; Mike MacDonald > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > does not eterm needs genome libs? > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > > Behalf Of Chris > > Faylor > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:05 PM > > To: Mike MacDonald > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > > Subject: Re: Eterm > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Mike MacDonald wrote: > > >Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, > > but I'm getting: > > > > > >Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute > > was not compiled > > >in, ignoring > > > 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 > > handle_exceptions: > > >Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > > > 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping > > stack trace to > > >Eterm.exe.stackdump > > > > > >When I try to run it.. > > > > That's one of those 'run it under gdb' problems that > just might be > > really obvious when you see the source code where the > > error occurs. > > > > cgf > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Oct 29 10:28:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:28:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm References: Message-ID: The users who are not participating in Xfree porting and development itself, MSUT send their messages to cygwin-xfree and/or appropriate cygwin user list, please. I cannot afford to answer private messages. Regards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:16 PM > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > Ok, I've never used gdb.. I'll fix it.. > > I'm still getting the -remap problem with cpp in 2.95.. > Its weird.. > > 2.91 works fine though.. glib compiles great, I just had > to disable > threads.. fnlib is giving me header headaches, which is > why I tried to > upgrade to 2.95.. Oh well.. > > I think I need fnlib for enlightenment.. I'm not sure.. > I've compiled all > this stuff on Solaris, so I know none of it needs linux.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:26 PM > To: Mike MacDonald > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > glib is GNOME lib. I am not aware of GNOME libs working without > problems under Cygwin. Does it not require Linux kernel > headers -- > I mean to compile gnome libs? > > Whatever the case, just saying that you get ACCESS_Violation or > software > crashed, is not enough. USE GDB to debug your application and fix > the bad pointers. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:16 AM > > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > No, just ImageMagic, and glib, and gtk++, and the > > graphics libs.. I have > > all those compiled.. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:51 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com; Mike MacDonald > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > does not eterm needs genome libs? > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > > > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > > > Behalf Of Chris > > > Faylor > > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:05 PM > > > To: Mike MacDonald > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > > > Subject: Re: Eterm > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Mike > MacDonald wrote: > > > >Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, > > > but I'm getting: > > > > > > > >Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute > > > was not compiled > > > >in, ignoring > > > > 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 > > > handle_exceptions: > > > >Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > > > > 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping > > > stack trace to > > > >Eterm.exe.stackdump > > > > > > > >When I try to run it.. > > > > > > That's one of those 'run it under gdb' problems that > > just might be > > > really obvious when you see the source code where the > > > error occurs. > > > > > > cgf > > > > > > From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Fri Oct 29 12:06:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:06:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm Message-ID: Well, your email replies are getting sent to me, and when I hit reply its replying to you. I'll be sure to check it. Usually, if I ask a question its for 'off-hand' information. I don't need someone to help me troubleshoot, or to troubleshoot for me. I am only asking if its something you have seen before. This message really didn't require an answer.. Sorry.. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:24 PM To: Mike MacDonald Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com Subject: RE: Eterm The users who are not participating in Xfree porting and development itself, MSUT send their messages to cygwin-xfree and/or appropriate cygwin user list, please. I cannot afford to answer private messages. Regards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:16 PM > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > Ok, I've never used gdb.. I'll fix it.. > > I'm still getting the -remap problem with cpp in 2.95.. > Its weird.. > > 2.91 works fine though.. glib compiles great, I just had > to disable > threads.. fnlib is giving me header headaches, which is > why I tried to > upgrade to 2.95.. Oh well.. > > I think I need fnlib for enlightenment.. I'm not sure.. > I've compiled all > this stuff on Solaris, so I know none of it needs linux.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:26 PM > To: Mike MacDonald > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > glib is GNOME lib. I am not aware of GNOME libs working without > problems under Cygwin. Does it not require Linux kernel > headers -- > I mean to compile gnome libs? > > Whatever the case, just saying that you get ACCESS_Violation or > software > crashed, is not enough. USE GDB to debug your application and fix > the bad pointers. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:16 AM > > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > No, just ImageMagic, and glib, and gtk++, and the > > graphics libs.. I have > > all those compiled.. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:51 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com; Mike MacDonald > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > does not eterm needs genome libs? > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > > > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > > > Behalf Of Chris > > > Faylor > > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:05 PM > > > To: Mike MacDonald > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > > > Subject: Re: Eterm > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Mike > MacDonald wrote: > > > >Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, > > > but I'm getting: > > > > > > > >Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute > > > was not compiled > > > >in, ignoring > > > > 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 > > > handle_exceptions: > > > >Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > > > > 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping > > > stack trace to > > > >Eterm.exe.stackdump > > > > > > > >When I try to run it.. > > > > > > That's one of those 'run it under gdb' problems that > > just might be > > > really obvious when you see the source code where the > > > error occurs. > > > > > > cgf > > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Oct 29 12:14:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm References: Message-ID: I did not mean to be rude. I work on porting X11/MOTIF libs. I have not ported the general applications. The X/MOTIF I had ported to Windows using Cygwin, are not of interest to most of the users anyway. They are scientific applications from public domain. My goal is to provide Cygwin users X11/MOTIF development tools and hopefully X-server. That is why i suggest mailing to cygwin-xfree list, so other users might help you too, who might have tried what you were. Just hit Reply-ALL ;-) Regards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Mike > MacDonald > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 3:06 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > Well, your email replies are getting sent to me, and when > I hit reply its > replying to you. I'll be sure to check it. > > Usually, if I ask a question its for 'off-hand' > information. I don't need > someone to help me troubleshoot, or to troubleshoot for > me. I am only > asking if its something you have seen before. > > This message really didn't require an answer.. Sorry.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > Behalf Of Suhaib > Siddiqi > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:24 PM > To: Mike MacDonald > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > The users who are not participating in Xfree porting and > development > itself, MSUT send their messages to cygwin-xfree and/or > appropriate > cygwin user list, please. > I cannot afford to answer private messages. > > Regards > Suhaib > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:16 PM > > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > Ok, I've never used gdb.. I'll fix it.. > > > > I'm still getting the -remap problem with cpp in 2.95.. > > Its weird.. > > > > 2.91 works fine though.. glib compiles great, I just had > > to disable > > threads.. fnlib is giving me header headaches, which is > > why I tried to > > upgrade to 2.95.. Oh well.. > > > > I think I need fnlib for enlightenment.. I'm not sure.. > > I've compiled all > > this stuff on Solaris, so I know none of it needs linux.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:26 PM > > To: Mike MacDonald > > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > glib is GNOME lib. I am not aware of GNOME libs working without > > problems under Cygwin. Does it not require Linux kernel > > headers -- > > I mean to compile gnome libs? > > > > Whatever the case, just saying that you get ACCESS_Violation or > > software > > crashed, is not enough. USE GDB to debug your > application and fix > > the bad pointers. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:16 AM > > > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > > No, just ImageMagic, and glib, and gtk++, and the > > > graphics libs.. I have > > > all those compiled.. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:51 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com; Mike MacDonald > > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > > > > > does not eterm needs genome libs? > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > > > > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > > > > Behalf Of Chris > > > > Faylor > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:05 PM > > > > To: Mike MacDonald > > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > > > > Subject: Re: Eterm > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Mike > > MacDonald wrote: > > > > >Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, > > > > but I'm getting: > > > > > > > > > >Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute > > > > was not compiled > > > > >in, ignoring > > > > > 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 > > > > handle_exceptions: > > > > >Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > > > > > 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping > > > > stack trace to > > > > >Eterm.exe.stackdump > > > > > > > > > >When I try to run it.. > > > > > > > > That's one of those 'run it under gdb' problems that > > > just might be > > > > really obvious when you see the source code where the > > > > error occurs. > > > > > > > > cgf > > > > > > > > > > From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Fri Oct 29 12:29:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:29:00 -0000 Subject: Eterm Message-ID: Ok, cool. I may be able to help with porting X11, but I need to get my environment together first, and get used to Cygwin. What I'm doing right now is mainly to familiarize myself with whats there already.. Its bugging me that I can't get the 2.95 compiler to work right.. Oh well.. I'll make sure to reply-all.. :) Thanx for all the help you've been giving me so far!! -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 3:10 PM To: Mike MacDonald; cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: RE: Eterm I did not mean to be rude. I work on porting X11/MOTIF libs. I have not ported the general applications. The X/MOTIF I had ported to Windows using Cygwin, are not of interest to most of the users anyway. They are scientific applications from public domain. My goal is to provide Cygwin users X11/MOTIF development tools and hopefully X-server. That is why i suggest mailing to cygwin-xfree list, so other users might help you too, who might have tried what you were. Just hit Reply-ALL ;-) Regards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Mike > MacDonald > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 3:06 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > Well, your email replies are getting sent to me, and when > I hit reply its > replying to you. I'll be sure to check it. > > Usually, if I ask a question its for 'off-hand' > information. I don't need > someone to help me troubleshoot, or to troubleshoot for > me. I am only > asking if its something you have seen before. > > This message really didn't require an answer.. Sorry.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > Behalf Of Suhaib > Siddiqi > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:24 PM > To: Mike MacDonald > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > The users who are not participating in Xfree porting and > development > itself, MSUT send their messages to cygwin-xfree and/or > appropriate > cygwin user list, please. > I cannot afford to answer private messages. > > Regards > Suhaib > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:16 PM > > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > Ok, I've never used gdb.. I'll fix it.. > > > > I'm still getting the -remap problem with cpp in 2.95.. > > Its weird.. > > > > 2.91 works fine though.. glib compiles great, I just had > > to disable > > threads.. fnlib is giving me header headaches, which is > > why I tried to > > upgrade to 2.95.. Oh well.. > > > > I think I need fnlib for enlightenment.. I'm not sure.. > > I've compiled all > > this stuff on Solaris, so I know none of it needs linux.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:26 PM > > To: Mike MacDonald > > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > glib is GNOME lib. I am not aware of GNOME libs working without > > problems under Cygwin. Does it not require Linux kernel > > headers -- > > I mean to compile gnome libs? > > > > Whatever the case, just saying that you get ACCESS_Violation or > > software > > crashed, is not enough. USE GDB to debug your > application and fix > > the bad pointers. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mike MacDonald [ mailto:mmacdona@tsi.gte.com ] > > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:16 AM > > > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > > No, just ImageMagic, and glib, and gtk++, and the > > > graphics libs.. I have > > > all those compiled.. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:51 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com; Mike MacDonald > > > Subject: RE: Eterm > > > > > > > > > > > > does not eterm needs genome libs? > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com > > > > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On > > > > Behalf Of Chris > > > > Faylor > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:05 PM > > > > To: Mike MacDonald > > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > > > > Subject: Re: Eterm > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Mike > > MacDonald wrote: > > > > >Has anyone gotten Eterm to work? I got it to compile, > > > > but I'm getting: > > > > > > > > > >Eterm: warning: support for the utmp_logging attribute > > > > was not compiled > > > > >in, ignoring > > > > > 0 0 [main] d:\root\usr\bin\Eterm.exe 25599 > > > > handle_exceptions: > > > > >Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > > > > > 0 26733 [main] Eterm 25599 stackdump: Dumping > > > > stack trace to > > > > >Eterm.exe.stackdump > > > > > > > > > >When I try to run it.. > > > > > > > > That's one of those 'run it under gdb' problems that > > > just might be > > > > really obvious when you see the source code where the > > > > error occurs. > > > > > > > > cgf > > > > > > > > > > From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Fri Oct 29 15:09:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:09:00 -0000 Subject: Mozilla Message-ID: Ok, I'm having a hell of a time compiling Mozilla too.. Someone said they might have a patch? From ssiddiqi@inspire.InspirePharm.Com Fri Oct 29 15:11:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspire.InspirePharm.Com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:11:00 -0000 Subject: Mozilla Message-ID: <199910292218.SAA29293@inspire.InspirePharm.Com> If you are using LessTif, then there are some outsanding issues with Mozilla. There are some known problems which I am aware of it via Lesstif.org. At the present time I would not recommend doing it using LessTif. Suhaib From mmacdona@tsi.gte.com Fri Oct 29 15:26:00 1999 From: mmacdona@tsi.gte.com (Mike MacDonald) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:26:00 -0000 Subject: Mozilla Message-ID: 'nuff said.. The only reason I was trying to compile it is to have an X browser on my nt box. I'm trying to eliminate, if at all possible, as many native running applications as I can.. -----Original Message----- From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspire.InspirePharm.Com ] Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:28 PM To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi'; Mike MacDonald Subject: RE: Mozilla Mozilla needs more then that. It needs LessTif (MOTIF) if you want to compile its X version, otherwise just follow Windows Native compile per mozilla URL instructions. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Oct 30 17:28:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:28:00 -0000 Subject: Exceed Message-ID: Does anyone know that Exceed XDk support Cygwin? I was browsing through thie web pages and noticed the following. Suhaib Exceed XDK FEATURES Key Features Benefits X Window Standard Development Library Support Easy development of X applications, GCC Compiler Support for Cygwin32 and GNAT environments Motif Support Port X Window Motif 1.2.4 and 2.0.1 X clients Long File Name (LFN) Support Eliminates the need to change source code due to renamed include/header files Kinput2, a Japanese X Input Method Editor Local Input Method Server supporting Japanese input in X clients Microsoft Input Method Editor Enables the use of any Microsoft Windows compatible IME for Japanese input in X clients ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From cgf@cygnus.com Sun Oct 31 10:42:00 1999 From: cgf@cygnus.com (Chris Faylor) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:42:00 -0000 Subject: Exceed References: Message-ID: <19991031134440.A17944@cygnus.com> Hmm. Are they saying that they're "Cygwin32" (sic) compatible or are they actually distributing Cygwin? I wonder if they're using your work here. -chris On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 08:27:05PM -0400, Suhaib M. Siddiqi wrote: > >Does anyone know that Exceed XDk support Cygwin? > >I was browsing through thie web pages and noticed the following. > >Suhaib > >Exceed XDK FEATURES >Key Features Benefits >X Window Standard Development Library Support Easy development of X >applications, GCC Compiler Support for Cygwin32 and GNAT environments >Motif Support Port X Window Motif 1.2.4 and 2.0.1 X clients >Long File Name (LFN) Support Eliminates the need to change source code due >to renamed include/header files >Kinput2, a Japanese X Input Method Editor Local Input Method Server >supporting Japanese input in X clients >Microsoft Input Method Editor Enables the use of any Microsoft Windows >compatible IME for Japanese input in X clients > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ssiddiqi@ipass.net Sun Oct 31 10:53:00 1999 From: ssiddiqi@ipass.net (Suhaib M. Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:53:00 -0000 Subject: Exceed References: <19991031134440.A17944@cygnus.com> Message-ID: I do not know. I was browsing through their web pages looking for updates because Exceed 6.1 XDK gives problems with MSVC 6.0. That is when I noticed it. I have ordered an evaluation copy. I hope they are not like Portland Group Compiler where their compilers were not linked to Cygwin1.dll, but they used bash.exe, and make.exe from Cygwin. So if you remove the make.exe which has Cygwin1.dll the Portland Group Compilers will fall apart. I am curious to know Exceed libraries, if they have linked their libs to Cygwin1.dll, will that not make the Exceed XDK developments tools GPL'ed unless they have Cygwin commercial license? Or, they may have made the libs without any dependency to Cygwin? My evaluation copy will arrive in a couple of weeks, then I will know more. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Faylor [ mailto:cgf@cygnus.com ] > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 1:45 PM > To: ssiddiqi@ipass.net > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com > Subject: Re: Exceed > > > Hmm. Are they saying that they're "Cygwin32" (sic) compatible or are > they actually distributing Cygwin? > > I wonder if they're using your work here. > > -chris > > On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 08:27:05PM -0400, Suhaib M. Siddiqi wrote: > > > >Does anyone know that Exceed XDk support Cygwin? > > > >I was browsing through thie web pages and noticed the following. > > > >Suhaib > > > >Exceed XDK FEATURES > >Key Features Benefits > >X Window Standard Development Library Support Easy development of X > >applications, GCC Compiler Support for Cygwin32 and GNAT environments > >Motif Support Port X Window Motif 1.2.4 and 2.0.1 X clients > >Long File Name (LFN) Support Eliminates the need to change > source code due > >to renamed include/header files > >Kinput2, a Japanese X Input Method Editor Local Input Method Server > >supporting Japanese input in X clients > >Microsoft Input Method Editor Enables the use of any Microsoft Windows > >compatible IME for Japanese input in X clients > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > From cgf@cygnus.com Sun Oct 31 10:56:00 1999 From: cgf@cygnus.com (Chris Faylor) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:56:00 -0000 Subject: Exceed References: <19991031134440.A17944@cygnus.com> Message-ID: <19991031135903.A18040@cygnus.com> Thanks for checking this out, Suhaib. I appreciate your vigilance. -chris On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 01:52:39PM -0500, Suhaib M. Siddiqi wrote: >I do not know. I was browsing through their >web pages looking for updates because Exceed 6.1 XDK gives >problems with MSVC 6.0. That is when I noticed it. > >I have ordered an evaluation copy. I hope they are >not like Portland Group Compiler where their compilers were not linked >to Cygwin1.dll, but they used bash.exe, and make.exe from Cygwin. So if >you remove the make.exe which has Cygwin1.dll the Portland Group Compilers >will fall apart. > >I am curious to know Exceed libraries, if they have linked their >libs to Cygwin1.dll, will that not make the Exceed XDK developments tools >GPL'ed unless they have Cygwin commercial license? Or, they may have >made the libs without any dependency to Cygwin? > >My evaluation copy will arrive in a couple of weeks, then I will know more. > >Suhaib > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Faylor [ mailto:cgf@cygnus.com ] >> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 1:45 PM >> To: ssiddiqi@ipass.net >> Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com >> Subject: Re: Exceed >> >> >> Hmm. Are they saying that they're "Cygwin32" (sic) compatible or are >> they actually distributing Cygwin? >> >> I wonder if they're using your work here. >> >> -chris >> >> On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 08:27:05PM -0400, Suhaib M. Siddiqi wrote: >> > >> >Does anyone know that Exceed XDk support Cygwin? >> > >> >I was browsing through thie web pages and noticed the following. >> > >> >Suhaib >> > >> >Exceed XDK FEATURES >> >Key Features Benefits >> >X Window Standard Development Library Support Easy development of X >> >applications, GCC Compiler Support for Cygwin32 and GNAT environments >> >Motif Support Port X Window Motif 1.2.4 and 2.0.1 X clients >> >Long File Name (LFN) Support Eliminates the need to change >> source code due >> >to renamed include/header files >> >Kinput2, a Japanese X Input Method Editor Local Input Method Server >> >supporting Japanese input in X clients >> >Microsoft Input Method Editor Enables the use of any Microsoft Windows >> >compatible IME for Japanese input in X clients >> > >> >-----------------------------------------------------------------