FW: Cygwin patches into X (fwd)

[Suhaib Siddiqi]

No, someone downloaded the my patches from Sourceware server
and submitted parts of those patches to XFree86 team.

I assume this fellow was attempting to take some of my fixes for
various X clients, and forgot to remove the #ifdef __CYGWIN__.  On
Sunday,
I was making a freswh set of patches, and noticed at several palces
#ifdef __CYGWIN32__.  I stopped using __CYGWIN32__ couple of months
ago.  I am using #ifdef __CYGWIN__.  First I thought I was making
some mistakes.  Later I downloaded a fresh archive of XFRee86 4.0
developrs snapshot, extracted it in a separate directory and ran a
grep -i 'cygwin' *.* on various directories.  I found in several
files
some of my fixes for various X clients.

The following message which I forwarded this morning has nothing to
do with
my other mail about someone submitting part of my patches.  Nils is
on Debian Linux and he forwarded the message about cygwin-xfree
code.  He is unable to post to the cygwin list because his SMTP is
perhaps in ORBS therefore I forwarded his message to the list

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
> [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On
> Behalf Of Chris
> Faylor
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:29 PM
> To: ssiddiqi@nspm.ipass.net
> Cc: Cygwin-Xfree@Sourceware.Cygnus.Com
> Subject: Re: FW: Cygwin patches into X (fwd)
>
>
> I don't understand.  Was this person responsible for submitting
> the __CYGWIN__ patches to the code base?
>
> -chris
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 08:01:52AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
> >Following message may be of interest to others.
> >Suhaib
> >
> >> Feel free to forward to the list if you like.
> >>
> >> Nils.
> >>
> >>
> >> ------- Forwarded Message
> >>
> >> From: Branden Robinson <branden@ecn.purdue.edu>
> >> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:00:17 -0400
> >> To: Nils Lohner <lohner@debian.org>
> >> Cc: debian-x@lists.debian.org
> >> Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
> >> Message-ID: <19990915190017.B11098@ecn.purdue.edu>
> >> References: <199909151510.RAA00999@bernin.grnbl_domain>
> >> Mime-Version: 1.0
> >> User-Agent: Mutt/1.0pre2i
> >> In-Reply-To: <199909151510.RAA00999@bernin.grnbl_domain>
> >>
> >> - --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 05:10:33PM +0200, Nils Lohner wrote:
> >> > Someone has patches to allow XF86 to be built under Windoze
> >> > with cygwin, and the XF people are reluctant to let
> >> them in due to
> >> > commercial interestes, i.e. the finished X server
> >> binaries can't be bundl=
> >> ed
> >> > with other software.  Where do I find a clue bat large
> >> enough to change
> >> > this thinking?  Please have a lok at the mail below and
> >> let me know what =
> >> I=20
> >> > can possibly do.
> >>
> >> Yes, I saw the gigantic flamewar on xfree86-devel about
> >> this, which was
> >> hopelessly entagled with what I'm sure is the thousandth
> >> iteration of a
> >> BSD vs. GPL licensing flamewar on that list.
> >>
> >> > My thinking: the patches do not force you to use cygwin
> >> to compile, but=
> >> =20
> >> > rather just enable it for those who want it, and so I
> >> don't see any reaso=
> >> n=20
> >> > why the XF people should object to the patches.  They
> >> enhance and do not=
> >> =20
> >> > limit in any way.  If someone else wants to posrt it to
> >> a compiler with a=
> >> =20
> >> > different license, noone is stopping them.
> >>
> >> That's true.
> >>
> >> > This is really frustrating me, people being this narrow
> >> minded (what's th=
> >> e=20
> >> > politically correct term for that? :) and I'm hoping
> >> people here will hav=
> >> e=20
> >> > some useful suggestions.
> >>
> >> Uh, this mailing list is brand new and pretty limited in
> >> scope.  (See the
> >> charter at < http://www.debian.org/~branden/ >.)
> >>
> >> If some folks here want to form or join a coalition about
> >> this, I don't
> >> care, but I personally have too many irons in the fire as
> >> is and don't have
> >> much personal interest in such a thing (though you can be
> >> sure I'd use it
> >> if it saw the light of day).
> >>
> >> Ultimately I think the best way to change XFree86's mind
> >> on things like
> >> this is:
> >>   1) Make very sure all these cygwin changes are
> >> MIT-licensed.  I don't see
> >>      why this should be such a big deal as the X source
> >> base already
> >>      supports tons of proprietary compilation
> >> environments already.
> >>   2) If they don't listen, fork.  The sound of moving
> >> feet is a powerful
> >>      motivator.  When interests diverge, this is often
> >> the best thing to
> >>      do.
> >>
> >> Point 2 has problems with the XFree86 membership
> >> agreement, though,
> >> especially if the current patches are based against the
> >> CVS version of the
> >> XFree86 code.  Then again, with 3.9.16 out, how different
> >> can it be?
> >>
> >> I don't really have much more advice than that.  I also
> >> don't feel this
> >> topic is terribly germane to this list, so if interested
> >> parties from this
> >> list would consider mailing each other about I'd appreciate it.
> >>
> >> Sorry to sound so uninterested but I really just have too
> >> much on my plate
> >> to concern myself with XFree86 for Windows.  I hope you
> >> can sympathize.
> >>
> >> - --=20
> >> G. Branden Robinson              |   You don't just
> >> decide to break Kubrick=
> >> 's
> >> Debian GNU/Linux                 |   code of silence and
> >> then get drawn away
> >> branden@ecn.purdue.edu           |   from it to a
> >> discussion about cough
> >> cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |   medicine.
> >>
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