Well the binaries compile fully, except the fonts, that was easy to fix though. But when I run X -indirect xdmserver, nothing happens no login at all. Is this because it is still a work in progress? Wayne Jackson http://www.powerup.com.au/~wjackson http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wmjackson http://users.bigpond.net.au/warp_kez