From karl.philipp@danet.de Fri Jun 1 00:32:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 00:32:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AE2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: KPH> > KPH> > > However, other KPH> > > material posted or contributed to this project, such as KPH> > Url, HTML pages, KPH> > > User Guides and FAQ etc etc, authors retain Authorship, not KPH> > the Copyright. KPH> > KPH> > That all depends on what the author chose to do with the KPH> > copyright when they KPH> > wrote the works in question. Posting a work on a RedHat KPH> > owned web server KPH> > does not constitute a transfer of copyright, as copyright KPH> > transfer is a KPH> > legal mechanism that requires formal paperwork. KPH> KPH> KPH> Red Hat has the right to remove it. That is what I had been told. This statement remembers me at the discussion about Microsoft's point of view regarding the "share sources". greetings Karl From karl.philipp@danet.de Fri Jun 1 00:35:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 00:35:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AE2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: KPH> KPH> FAQ cannot be copyright by you. I first wrote FAQ and Rob modified it. KPH> Technically and legally there are several authors. That is KPH> another question KPH> we need to resolve peacfully through private communications :-) KPH> I would like to listen to this discussion. greetins Karl From karl.philipp@danet.de Fri Jun 1 01:00:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 01:00:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AE3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: KPH> If you do not want to change the copyright notice, and RedHat KPH> does not allow KPH> me KPH> to keep your copyright as you posted I will delete those documents. KPH> Unfortunately I KPH> will have no choice. Because when you use some commercial KPH> company server KPH> you KPH> sometimes have to follow their rules. I did not make KPH> arrangements with you KPH> but anyone I grant CVS access I assume that things needs to be KPH> checked with KPH> me KPH> first. There were certain guidelines were told to me by KPH> RedHat when they KPH> decided to KPH> host Cygwin/Xfree86 project and I need to follow those KPH> guidelins. If you KPH> have objections KPH> to transfer copyright, which is fine for me. You have freedom KPH> not to do so, KPH> and KPH> RedHat has freedom to delete the artcile which does not confer to rules KPH> which I agreed KPH> when I was assigned project leadership. I'm willing to spend an own virtual server (including CGI-BIN, PHP4, MySQL), and if necessary an own second level domain *.org. attached at a 622MBit NACAMAR backbone. Or we can use SourceForge.Net for documents of this kind, or both or my virtual server http://www.karl-philipp.de (150MB disk space, mysql, php3, cgi, 20 GB traffic allowed, although hosted by www.strato.de, not very reliable) greetings Karl From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 03:49:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 03:49:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > I'm willing to spend an own virtual server (including > CGI-BIN, PHP4, MySQL), > and if necessary an own second level domain *.org. attached > at a 622MBit > NACAMAR > backbone. > > Or we can use SourceForge.Net for documents of this kind, > > or both I am not sure about it. The point of dispute is someone taking prior work and rewriting and inserting his copyright notice and authorship, intentionally omitting and refusing to incorporate major part of existing work which points to that his work is borrowed from others. That is a copyright infringment itself. I was willing to let it go and offered the compromise situation that he chnges the authroship and copyright notice to DRAFT ONLy. Looks like does not want. Therefore I will not let this FAQ to be posted, period, because it is borrowed work from others, suggestions from our users in the mailing list and existing contributed work from others. Regards Suhaib > > or my virtual server http://www.karl-philipp.de (150MB disk > space, mysql, > php3, cgi, > 20 GB traffic allowed, although hosted by www.strato.de, not > very reliable) > > greetings > > Karl > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 04:48:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:48:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C5F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> How about you install .Xdefaults and .xresources files in your $HOME directory. Youcan get sample copies from ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/4.0.3/etc-x1 1-vtwm.tar.bz2 Suhaib From karl.philipp@danet.de Fri Jun 1 05:24:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Hi Suhaib, KPH> I am not sure about it. KPH> The point of dispute is someone taking prior work and rewriting and inserting his KPH> copyright notice and authorship, intentionally omitting and refusing to KPH> incorporate major part of existing work which points to that his work is borrowed KPH> from others. That is a copyright infringment itself. I agree. This isn't okay. KPH> I was willing to let it go and offered the compromise situation KPH> that he chnges the authroship and copyright notice to DRAFT KPH> ONLy. Looks like does not want. KPH> Therefore I will not let this FAQ to be posted, period, KPH> because it is borrowed work from others, suggestions from our users in KPH> the mailing list and existing contributed work from others. I agree, too. This discussion is the reason for me, to read more about copyright, GPL etc. In the last two hours I've read a lot of wpages about this difficult topic. Of course, there are partly big differences in the copyright of the nations. I think now, the most human (including me) have only an ambiguous imagination, what copyright is. In U.S. there is a distinction between copyright and authorship, but not in Germany, IMO. The german copyright says, if there are various co-workers of a work, every co-worker has a right to "co-copyright" (German: Miturheberschaft). Okay, it is a litte bit simplified, ... I can understand Harold, that he has bad feeling, that the copyright of the faq belongs to RedHat only. My question regarding "The Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ" http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/faq.html is: 1. RedHat has the copyright to this faq, doesn't it? 2. If so, has RedHat allowed any human the right to "recycling" of the faq (comparable with the GPL for source code)? If you answer the first question with "yes" and the last question with "no", I've a very bad feeling, too! Sometimes I've observed, that a human X is developing the freeware xyz. Many contributors send bug reports, suggestions, new ideas etc. After some months or years Mr. X decides, oh, now my software xyz becomes shareware. In my opinion this approach isn't really fair, because the development of the software, including the new version, has profited from the contributions of the users. greetings Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no Fri Jun 1 06:08:00 2001 From: Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no (Idar Tollefsen) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 06:08:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems Message-ID: > How about you install .Xdefaults and > .xresources files in your $HOME > directory. > Youcan get sample copies from > ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/ \ > xfree/xc-4-binaries/4.0.3/etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Two things: There are no .Xdefaults or .xresources files in the file you mention here. and If these files are required for proper operation of Cygwin/XFree86, shouldn't they be mentioned in the user's guide? I took the files I didn't already have from the file you mentioned and put them in my $HOME dir, but since I'm still lacking .Xdefaults and .xresources, the colors still gives me problems. I'll try another mirror to see if it could be that the file was outdated (I doubt it though). Thanks for all your help so far. - IT From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 06:17:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 06:17:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C62@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Karl, Thanks for your questions. > KPH> I am not sure about it. > KPH> The point of dispute is someone taking prior work and > rewriting and > inserting his > KPH> copyright notice and authorship, intentionally omitting > and refusing to > KPH> incorporate major part of existing work which points to > that his work > is borrowed KPH> from others. That is a copyright infringment itself. > > I agree. This isn't okay. Thanks. > This discussion is the reason for me, to read more about > copyright, GPL etc. > > In the last two hours I've read a lot of wpages about this > difficult topic. > > Of course, there are partly big differences in the copyright > of the nations. > > I think now, the most human (including me) have only an ambiguous > imagination, > what copyright is. > > In U.S. there is a distinction between copyright and > authorship, but not in > Germany, > IMO. Well, I am not going to go into legal discussions. Every country has its own laws. My point of objections are based upon several things. 1) In an open source project, we need to accommodate everyone. Giving CVS access does not mean one starts changing things on his own. My request to "Do not do any major changes to FAQ" was due to a reason to avoid conflicts, because I knew people will object. If you read his arguments that mine is Cygwin/Xfree86 Frequently Asked Questions and current is Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ, is a baseless intentional argument to walk around someone else work intentionally and claim it yours own. These kind of arguments points to someone being unreasonable and unfair in his dealing. 2) For this project I did not insert anyone name on HTML pages, as authors. The pages belong to project. But when one developer comes in and starts modifying web pages and without a prior consent from other contributors inserts his name as BOLD FACES author and copyright ower, it is going to create objections from others. First of all this starts giving feeling to other well deserved contribtors that their contributions are being neglected or not being properly acknowledged. Everyone made an effort to make this project successful, not one person. 3) No matter how good are the contributions, I am strongly opposed to anyone dictating his terms and things should go his way or no way. This attitude irritates me because it creates unwanted arguments and waste of time. > > The german copyright says, if there are various co-workers of > a work, every > co-worker > has a right to "co-copyright" (German: Miturheberschaft). > Okay, it is a litte bit simplified, ... I know, European laws to some extent. I did my Ph.D. in Vienna. > > I can understand Harold, that he has bad feeling, that the > copyright of the > faq > belongs to RedHat only. No one said FAQ belongs to RedHat only. I said FAQ does not belong to him. Read his Draft FAQ, the introductions part is borrowed from current FAQ and books, which he includes happily because general introduction can be copies from anywhere, but he had been either vague or refuse to incorporate more techincal points from current FAQ because that makes it clear the work is borrowed. It is like, you publish something in a news paper and I come take your article, rewrite it with HTML sofwtare and publish it in SGML claiming to be mine. This is absured. > > My question regarding "The Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ" > http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/faq.html >is: > 1. RedHat has the copyright to this faq, doesn't it? NO. There was never a copyright issue about FAQ. FAQ belongs to Cygwin/XFree86 project, neither me, Rob, Peter or anyone else. it is a collection of answers and possible solutions collected from users suggestions, observations and from Xfree86 manual pages. No one copyrighted it. It was the mess Harold started, though I requested no major changes, he still attempted to change it and try to claim it as his own work. It is a nonsense. Current FAQ belongs to our project, if you have suggestions, email to list and Rob will add your suggestions. That is the way FAQ was prepared. > 2. If so, has RedHat allowed any human the right to "recycling" of the faq > (comparable with the GPL for source code)? If you want copy the current FAQ and distribute there is no license for it GPL or whatever. My intention was not to get into licensing and authorship mess for every HTML document we created to provide relevant information to users. You can copy and do whatever you like, as long as you do not claim every single point in that FAQ was your brilliant idea, to that I will object and I will try to stop. >If you answer the first question with "yes" and the last question with "no", >I've a very bad feeling, too! I am not sure what is a bad feeling here. The documents were there as informational and help tools to our users. My aim was and is to provide an opensource project where authors get credit of their authorship of source code and we use Cygwin/Xfree86 URL to support project, not as some school kids tools to dictates their terms and start inserting authroship at every page, and slowly looks like one person has over taken the entire project. >Sometimes I've observed, that a human X is developing the freeware xyz. >Many contributors send bug reports, suggestions, new ideas etc. After some >months or years Mr. X decides, oh, now my software xyz becomes shareware. >In my opinion this approach isn't really fair, because the development of >the software, including the new version, has profited from the contributions of >the users. Exactly, and Mr. XYZ is talking the idea from others and making his copyright and authroship property without getting their consent. Cygwin/Xfree86 will always be a free sofwtare as long as I am here. It cannot be shareware. I will always provide binaries free of cost to anyone who has access to Internet. My aim of starting this project was to provide a free X server to Win32 community. From the beginning of this project I gave due acknowledgements to all the contributors, and in case of authroship and copyright issues I discussed with them privately and tried to find a best solution which was acceptable to everyone. However, all the other contributors always discussed with me prior to inserting copyright and authorship notices, instead of being stubborn and start porting things on their own. I am closing this thread. To avoid waste of time and protects all the contributors and users interest who had contributed to this project and will contribute I think it more appropriate to trash Harold FAQ then to publish it, because it will cause on-going conflicts due to unfairly taking others stuff and claiming it to be his copyright/aurthorship protected document, but nothing else. Regards Suhib >greetings > Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 06:18:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 06:18:00 -0000 Subject: Syslogd problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C63@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Could you please explain syslogd for which product and what you wanted to do? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: jorge.goncalves@libertysurf.fr > [ mailto:jorge.goncalves@libertysurf.fr ] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:55 AM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Re:Syslogd problem > > > I thought I could use the syslogd daemon to get some idea > of what > >tftpd is > >doing, but when I type "syslogd&" at the bash prompt, > the command > >starts and > >exits immediately! > > I try strace but I didn't find the problem > strace said unlink /dev/log > > Thank you > > Best regards > > -------------- > Profitez de l'offre sp????ciale Liberty Surf ! > 50 h / 95 F TTC par mois tout compris pendant 3 mois > http://register.libertysurf.fr/subscribe_fr/signup.php3 > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 06:20:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 06:20:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C64@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Two things: > > There are no .Xdefaults or .xresources files in > the file you mention here. > > and > > If these files are required for proper operation > of Cygwin/XFree86, shouldn't they be mentioned > in the user's guide? Yes they should be in FAQ. They are not must but that is the way you can customize X resource. You can opy them from any UNIX box if you want and modify according to your requirements. Suhaib > > I took the files I didn't already have from the > file you mentioned and put them in my $HOME > dir, but since I'm still lacking .Xdefaults and > .xresources, the colors still gives me problems. > I'll try another mirror to see if it could be that > the file was outdated (I doubt it though). > > Thanks for all your help so far. > > > - IT > > From cwolfe@globetrotter.qc.ca Fri Jun 1 07:27:00 2001 From: cwolfe@globetrotter.qc.ca (Chris Wolfe) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:27:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B17A653.68A83282@globetrotter.qc.ca> Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: [snip] > I am not sure about it. The point of dispute is someone taking prior work > and rewriting and inserting his copyright notice and authorship, > intentionally > omitting and refusing to incorporate major part of existing work which > points to that his work is borrowed from others. That is a copyright > infringment itself. Could anyone who wants to indulge in completely useless and damned annoying personal sniping please resort to doing so in private? As much as I enjoy knowing what is planned for the future of the project, this sort of infantile behavior gets on my nerves. Copyright in the US protects the presentation of a work, *NOT* the informational content. Duplicating the informational content in a new presentation results in, guess what, a new copyrightable work. I believe Harold has pointed this out half a dozen times already, but it does not seem to have registered. See: < http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp > Chris ~~~~~~ Lawyer? heck no, literate. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 07:31:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:31:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C65@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Could anyone who wants to indulge in completely useless and > damned annoying personal sniping please resort to doing so in > private? As much as I enjoy knowing what is planned for the > future of the project, this sort of infantile behavior gets on my > nerves. > Thanks. It gets on my nerves too :) My post was "discuss the issues directly with me". If you read it. A couple of messages to him were private which he started copying to list. > Copyright in the US protects the presentation of a work, *NOT* > the informational content. Duplicating the informational content > in a new presentation results in, guess what, a new copyrightable > work. I believe Harold has pointed this out half a dozen times > already, but it does not seem to have registered. Not true. > > See: < http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp > This has been challenged in legal courts and Eastman had lost several cases. I wn't go into details because I said I had closed this senseless thread. Suhaib > > Chris > > ~~~~~~ > Lawyer? heck no, literate. > From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Fri Jun 1 08:02:00 2001 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:02:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <3B17A653.68A83282@globetrotter.qc.ca> Message-ID: <3B17AE50.E2B0DA1E@imec.be> Chris Wolfe wrote: > > Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > [snip] > > I am not sure about it. The point of dispute is someone taking prior work > > and rewriting and inserting his copyright notice and authorship, > > intentionally > > omitting and refusing to incorporate major part of existing work which > > points to that his work is borrowed from others. That is a copyright > > infringment itself. > > Could anyone who wants to indulge in completely useless and > damned annoying personal sniping please resort to doing so in > private? As much as I enjoy knowing what is planned for the > future of the project, this sort of infantile behavior gets on my > nerves. > > Copyright in the US protects the presentation of a work, *NOT* > the informational content. Duplicating the informational content > in a new presentation results in, guess what, a new copyrightable > work. I believe Harold has pointed this out half a dozen times > already, but it does not seem to have registered. In an open source project the question should not be 'Is this legal acceptable' but 'Is this moral acceptable'. And I'm in the camp of Suhaib that on a FAQ page of an open source project not one person should have a copyright clause on it because he formatted the knowledge of several people in a nice way. Maybe we can change the copyright clause to a maintainer clause (Maintained by: ...) (with maybe also the list of old maintainers) ? greets, Staf. From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Fri Jun 1 08:14:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:14:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <200106011514.f51FEPC196030@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying to get XGGI to work like an Xnest might. I have coppied the binaries, as well as built XGGI and the libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a linux box... XGGI :1 -ac This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. From there, there is nothing. If I try to put an xterm up (after setting DISPLAY to :1) it just hangs, and nothing happens. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks, Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 08:17:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:17:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C67@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Here are the sources http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/101.html and read the whole US Copyright laws here http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/index.text.html It says clearly at some clauses that copying someone else work is illegal. I know that my articles I publish in journal get peer reviewed for being original work. We got some of the people who thinks they know everything and know nothing. Anyway my argument is not copyright it is a moral issue of trying to dictate and taking others work from an open soruce project to claim your own work. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:08 AM > To: 'Chris Wolfe'; Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: Copyright [cgf, please comment] > > > > You present sources? You are talking bullshit. DO NOT WRITE > ANY MORE? > Harold had copied someone else work. You need to open your > eyes and read carefully. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Wolfe [ mailto:cwolfe@globetrotter.qc.ca ] > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:06 AM > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > Subject: Re: Copyright [cgf, please comment] > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > Copyright in the US protects the presentation of a work, *NOT* > > > > the informational content. Duplicating the informational content > > > > in a new presentation results in, guess what, a new > copyrightable > > > > work. I believe Harold has pointed this out half a dozen times > > > > already, but it does not seem to have registered. > > > > > > Not true. > > > > > > > Bluntly put: bull shit. Please present sources. > > > > Chris > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 08:22:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:22:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C68@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Did you try ./xterm -display 127.0.0.1:1.0? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:14 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying to get XGGI > to work like an > Xnest might. I have coppied the binaries, as well as built > XGGI and the > libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a linux box... > > XGGI :1 -ac > > This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. > From there, there is > nothing. If I try to put an xterm up (after setting DISPLAY > to :1) it just > hangs, and nothing happens. > > Anyone have experience with this? > Thanks, > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 08:43:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:43:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright END of thread Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C69@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I had been getting mails from some ignorant readers claiming to know the laws. As I pointed out several times that issue here is more of a moral nature then copyright. However some of the users who had been insisting to send their flame directly claiming they know Copright lawys I refer them to US Congress and Library of Congress Url http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wccc Read there, it says authors of joint work are co-owners of copyright.... Once again and last let me iterate, the issue was attempts to publish smoething without discussing, and refusal to discuss and dictate own terms to go things one way oor no way in an open source project that is what I oppose. For copyright issues I offered compromises so users who intend to flame read on carefully and flame yourself I do not have time for nonsense. ---- >From Section 01 of US Copyright Laws at US Library of Congress. ....if the parties expressly agree in a written instrument signed by them that the work shall be considered a work made for hire.... The authors of a joint work are co-owners of the copyright in the work, unless there is an agreement to the contrary. Copyright in each separate contribution to a periodical or other collective work is distinct from copyright in the collective work as a whole and vests initially with the author of the contribution. Two General Principles Mere ownership of a book, manuscript, painting, or any other copy or phonorecord does not give the possessor the copyright. The law provides that transfer of ownership of any material object that embodies a protected work does not of itself convey any rights in the copyright. Minors may claim copyright, but state laws may regulate the business dealings involving copyrights owned by minors. For information on relevant state laws, consult an attorney. From george.wakileh@vol.at Fri Jun 1 08:45:00 2001 From: george.wakileh@vol.at (George J. Wakileh) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:45:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems Message-ID: <01C0EAC2.97100B60@george.wakileh@vol.at> Here they are. I think you find them under extra/etc/X11/xdm ... George -----Original Message----- From: Idar Tollefsen [SMTP:Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no] Sent: Friday, 01 June 2001 15:08 To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: RE: Color problems > How about you install .Xdefaults and > .xresources files in your $HOME > directory. > Youcan get sample copies from > ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/ \ > xfree/xc-4-binaries/4.0.3/etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Two things: There are no .Xdefaults or .xresources files in the file you mention here. and If these files are required for proper operation of Cygwin/XFree86, shouldn't they be mentioned in the user's guide? I took the files I didn't already have from the file you mentioned and put them in my $HOME dir, but since I'm still lacking .Xdefaults and .xresources, the colors still gives me problems. I'll try another mirror to see if it could be that the file was outdated (I doubt it though). Thanks for all your help so far. - IT From cwolfe@globetrotter.qc.ca Fri Jun 1 08:55:00 2001 From: cwolfe@globetrotter.qc.ca (Chris Wolfe) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:55:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C67@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B17BAE9.9290F4DC@globetrotter.qc.ca> Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > Here are the sources > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/101.html > > and read the whole US Copyright laws here > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/index.text.html > > It says clearly at some clauses that copying someone else work > is illegal. I know that my articles I publish in journal get peer reviewed > for > being original work. > > We got some of the people who thinks they know everything and know nothing. > Anyway my argument is not copyright it is a moral issue of trying to dictate > and taking others work from an open soruce project to claim your own work. > > Suhaib This *was* sent as a personal message to Suhaib, but since he apparently prefers a public forum I will oblige him. (Please feel free to reply to me personally rather than the list, as this really has very little use to the general population) < http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp > "WHAT IS NOT PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT? ... Ideas, procedures, methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, discoveries, or devices, as distinguished from a description, explanation, or illustration" < http://www.loc.gov/copyright/title17/92chap1.html#101 >, Definitions, "derivative work" A "derivative work" is a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as ... abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications, which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work". Assuming Harold's claim of writing from scratch is true, his document is obviously not a derivative work. Again: The questions that need to be covered by the FAQ, and the informational content of the answers is *not* copyrightable. Please present sources more specific than the complete text of the US Copyright legislation and a badly written personal attack. (Try not to make grammatical errors when talking about "people who think they know everything and know nothing") I contribute quite routinely to open-source projects covered under the GPL, and copyrighted by some random original programmer (often not the current maintainer). I see absolutely no reason that a project needs a single global copyright sticker, as the GNU licenses guarantee freedom to the users of the code/document. Chris ~~~~~~ Lawyer? No, literate. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 09:00:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:00:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C6A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > > > Suhaib > > This *was* sent as a personal message to Suhaib, but since he > apparently prefers a public forum I will oblige him. (Please feel > free to reply to me personally rather than the list, as this > really has very little use to the general population) There are others then you poping up of whos messages I have not seen on the list before. So I wonder it is something to annoy? again copyright is really not an issue, but since you insists, read this from copyright laws from Library of Congress. FAQ is an invention. It is a collective work. * The authors of a joint work are co-owners of the copyright in the work, unless there is an agreement to the contrary. FAQ in SGML is a DOC and collection of work. therefore it does not grant copyright: *Mere ownership of a book, manuscript, painting, or any other copy or phonorecord does not give the possessor the copyright. The law provides that transfer of ownership of any material object that embodies a protected work does not of itself convey any rights in the copyright. Bye Suhaib > > < http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp > > > "WHAT IS NOT PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT? ... Ideas, procedures, > methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, discoveries, > or devices, as distinguished from a description, explanation, or > illustration" > < http://www.loc.gov/copyright/title17/92chap1.html#101 >, Definitions, "derivative work" A "derivative work" is a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as ... abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications, which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work". Assuming Harold's claim of writing from scratch is true, his document is obviously not a derivative work. Again: The questions that need to be covered by the FAQ, and the informational content of the answers is *not* copyrightable. Please present sources more specific than the complete text of the US Copyright legislation and a badly written personal attack. (Try not to make grammatical errors when talking about "people who think they know everything and know nothing") I contribute quite routinely to open-source projects covered under the GPL, and copyrighted by some random original programmer (often not the current maintainer). I see absolutely no reason that a project needs a single global copyright sticker, as the GNU licenses guarantee freedom to the users of the code/document. Chris ~~~~~~ Lawyer? No, literate. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 09:15:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:15:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C6B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Alexander posted a solution to a problem similar to yours. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01872.html Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:14 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying to get XGGI > to work like an > Xnest might. I have coppied the binaries, as well as built > XGGI and the > libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a linux box... > > XGGI :1 -ac > > This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. > From there, there is > nothing. If I try to put an xterm up (after setting DISPLAY > to :1) it just > hangs, and nothing happens. > > Anyone have experience with this? > Thanks, > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From cgf@redhat.com Fri Jun 1 09:27:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:27:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C29AE3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010601122739.B3415@redhat.com> On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 10:07:46AM +0200, Karl Philipp wrote: > >KPH> If you do not want to change the copyright notice, and RedHat >KPH> does not allow >KPH> me >KPH> to keep your copyright as you posted I will delete those documents. >KPH> Unfortunately I >KPH> will have no choice. Because when you use some commercial >KPH> company server >KPH> you >KPH> sometimes have to follow their rules. I did not make >KPH> arrangements with you >KPH> but anyone I grant CVS access I assume that things needs to be >KPH> checked with >KPH> me >KPH> first. There were certain guidelines were told to me by >KPH> RedHat when they >KPH> decided to >KPH> host Cygwin/Xfree86 project and I need to follow those >KPH> guidelins. If you >KPH> have objections >KPH> to transfer copyright, which is fine for me. You have freedom >KPH> not to do so, >KPH> and >KPH> RedHat has freedom to delete the artcile which does not confer to rules >KPH> which I agreed >KPH> when I was assigned project leadership. > >I'm willing to spend an own virtual server (including CGI-BIN, PHP4, MySQL), >and if necessary an own second level domain *.org. attached at a 622MBit >NACAMAR >backbone. > >Or we can use SourceForge.Net for documents of this kind, Jeez. Would people stop mentioning sourceforge every time they think they see some small problem??? I'm not going to be deleting anything. There is no threat of my deleting anything. Red Hat does not care about the copyrights in this project. *I* thought that the people who contributed documentation might conceivably want to consolidate under one copyright. I *thought* that having the name of a large corporation on the copyright might forestall copyright violations. This is NOT a situation where a big bad corporation is stepping in to squash your interests. To prove my goodwill, I withdraw my suggestion. I suggest that you assign everything to XFree86. I really don't want to be bothered with this crap. cgf From cwolfe@globetrotter.qc.ca Fri Jun 1 09:32:00 2001 From: cwolfe@globetrotter.qc.ca (Chris Wolfe) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:32:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C6A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B17C3AD.689C29BE@globetrotter.qc.ca> Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: [snip] > > again copyright is really not an issue, but since you insists, read this > from copyright laws from Library of Congress. FAQ is an invention. It is a > collective work. > > * The authors of a joint work are co-owners of the copyright in the work, > unless there is an agreement to the contrary. > > FAQ in SGML is a DOC and collection of work. therefore it does not grant > copyright: > > *Mere ownership of a book, manuscript, painting, or any other copy or > phonorecord does not give the possessor the copyright. The law provides that > transfer of ownership of any material object that embodies a protected work > does not of itself convey any rights in the copyright. > > Bye > > Suhaib Correct, the copyright on the original FAQ is jointly held by whomever wrote it. The problem at hand, however, is whether or not Harold's rewrite is a derivative work. If it is than it requires approval of the copyright holders of the original FAQ, which apparently has not been given, and a joint copyright notice. Morally some credit should probably be given to the writer(s) of the original FAQ, legally I don't think there is an issue. I would take this off list again, but Suhaib apparently finds discussion to his e-mail annoying enough to ban addresses from the inspirepharm.com SMTP server. Unless some content appears this is my last message, apologies to everyone else for encouraging this idiot. Chris From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 10:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:02:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C6C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > The problem at hand, however, is whether or not Harold's rewrite > is a derivative work. If it is than it requires approval of the > copyright holders of the original FAQ, which apparently has not > been given, and a joint copyright notice. Morally some credit > should probably be given to the writer(s) of the original FAQ, > legally I don't think there is an issue. Yes there is an issue if you read his mails and avoiding abeing vague whenever I asked that question nd proposed a compromise. > > I would take this off list again, but Suhaib apparently finds > discussion to his e-mail annoying enough to ban addresses from > the inspirepharm.com SMTP server. Unless some content appears > this is my last message, apologies to everyone else for > encouraging this idiot. I want this thread to die, therefore temporarily my SMTP server is rejecting any mail which contains copyright issues. It is not only you it for others too. I do not have time to keep going in this issue while I have made it clear that Copyright is a major issue. Issue is providing complete FAQ document and if one wishes to put copyright etc note then contributors who contributed before him and will contribute after him should be properly acknowledge. In my last email last night too, I said end of thread and Chris also had enough of it. I brought the points. 1) issue that des[pite my objection not to modify FAQ because I knew this will cause problems, one has to ignore others and impose his wishes and refuse to bend. It is ounter productive and a good enough reason to deny posting that document. This is to avoid future conflicts and such discussions. Whatever, for the last time, gain please let this thread die. Harold would not remove his name from authroship and he had so far refused to incorporate existing FAQs from current document therefore that FAQ will not fullfil its purpose to support users. This is an open source project not a site to post articles to support someone authroship and resume. period. our aim to provide win32 x-server. Regards Suhaib > > Chris > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 10:04:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:04:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C6D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> XGGI is a complete X-server, you cannot run like Xnest. You can run it alongside Exceed. The code of XGGI was slightly modified for Win32/Cygwin. It also uses different libraries on Win32 then on UNIX. John Fortin may shed some light on it. Can you not use Xnest from XFree86? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:37 PM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > Thanks for the pointer, but unfortunately, that is not what I > am looking for. > I want to run XGGI within the Exceed X server, not alongside > the Exceed > Xserver. I need XGGI to work like a nested X server (like > Xnest, but it needs > to be XGGI specificly). This works under Unix, and it is > ALMOST working under > cygwin, but it just wont display anything. > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > > > > Alexander posted a solution to a problem similar to yours. > > > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01872.html > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:14 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying to get XGGI > > > to work like an > > > Xnest might. I have coppied the binaries, as well as built > > > XGGI and the > > > libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a > linux box... > > > > > > XGGI :1 -ac > > > > > > This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. > > > From there, there is > > > nothing. If I try to put an xterm up (after setting DISPLAY > > > to :1) it just > > > hangs, and nothing happens. > > > > > > Anyone have experience with this? > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From brian@brightblade.org Fri Jun 1 10:18:00 2001 From: brian@brightblade.org (Brian @ Brightblade) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C6D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <01d301c0eabe$ca4502a0$6401a8c0@phreak> > XGGI is a complete X-server, you cannot run like Xnest. You > can run it alongside Exceed. The code of XGGI was slightly modified for > Win32/Cygwin. It also uses different libraries on Win32 then on UNIX. John > Fortin may shed some light on it. Can you not use Xnest from XFree86? > > Suhaib *Newbie alert* I've been to the XGGI webpage and XGGILib webpage trying to understand what XGGI is. Is there a short paragraph somewhere saying why one would want to use XGGI over Xfree86. Thanks. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 10:23:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:23:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C6E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > XGGI is a complete X-server, you cannot run like Xnest. You > > can run it alongside Exceed. The code of XGGI was slightly > modified for > > Win32/Cygwin. It also uses different libraries on Win32 > then on UNIX. > John > > Fortin may shed some light on it. Can you not use Xnest > from XFree86? > > > > Suhaib > > *Newbie alert* > I've been to the XGGI webpage and XGGILib webpage trying to > understand what > XGGI is. > Is there a short paragraph somewhere saying why one would > want to use XGGI > over Xfree86. I am not aware of such a paragraph. You might consider asking at GGI mailing list, or email directly to author of XGGI, Marcus. His email address can be found at http://www.ggi-project.org Suhaib > > Thanks. > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 10:58:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:58:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C70@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > So XGGI is does not work on an X target, only a direct X > target? In Unix, XGGI > works on an X target, creating an X server nested within > another X server. > This allows for programs that want sole use of the X server > to run happily with > other programs on the same screen. If you use target X. Have installed GGI libraries for X? using target X it suppose to behave like it does on UNIX... If you specify target directx, it will use only directX. >Xnest does this, and so > does XGGI. XGGI is > less buggy than Xnest, and the application I am integrating > (we do not develop > it) with my application will crash under Xnest :( Soooo, > XGGI has been the > solution under Unix. > > It runs happily against an X target, and lives within XFree86 > in Solaris and > Linux. In Windows, it will draw, proving to me that it is > kind of working, but > you cannot draw to it :( You can try it youself. Run an X > server and set your > display to the X server. Then, run XGGI :1 -ac (instead of > XGGI -targets > directx). XGGI will come up as XGGI-on-X (As opposed to > XGGI-on-directx). I will test your suggetions. But I can do over the weekend, not today. Suhaib > > The reason we cannot use it as a standalone, is because we > want it to draw to a > window that is already created (-targets "X:-inwin=winid"). > By doing this, we > can control a little X server as a window. Kind of neat... > which is why I need > to get XGGI working in Windows with an X target. > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > > > > XGGI is a complete X-server, you cannot run like Xnest. You > > can run it alongside Exceed. The code of XGGI was slightly > modified for > > Win32/Cygwin. It also uses different libraries on Win32 > then on UNIX. John > > Fortin > > may shed some light on it. Can you not use Xnest from XFree86? > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:37 PM > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer, but unfortunately, that is not what I > > > am looking for. > > > I want to run XGGI within the Exceed X server, not alongside > > > the Exceed > > > Xserver. I need XGGI to work like a nested X server (like > > > Xnest, but it needs > > > to be XGGI specificly). This works under Unix, and it is > > > ALMOST working under > > > cygwin, but it just wont display anything. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander posted a solution to a problem similar to yours. > > > > > > > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01872.html > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:14 AM > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > > > Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying to get XGGI > > > > > to work like an > > > > > Xnest might. I have coppied the binaries, as well as built > > > > > XGGI and the > > > > > libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a > > > linux box... > > > > > > > > > > XGGI :1 -ac > > > > > > > > > > This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. > > > > > From there, there is > > > > > nothing. If I try to put an xterm up (after setting DISPLAY > > > > > to :1) it just > > > > > hangs, and nothing happens. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 11:10:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:10:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C71@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > XGGI defaults to a target of X Yes it does, I know. I mean I need to test your problem. I do not hhave XGGI at my work computer. I can test only over the weekend then give my suggestions. Thanks Suhaib > > > > > > So XGGI is does not work on an X target, only a direct X > > > target? In Unix, XGGI > > > works on an X target, creating an X server nested within > > > another X server. > > > This allows for programs that want sole use of the X server > > > to run happily with > > > other programs on the same screen. > > > > If you use target X. Have installed GGI libraries for X? > > using target X it suppose to behave like it does on UNIX... > > If you specify target directx, it will use only directX. > > > > >Xnest does this, and so > > > does XGGI. XGGI is > > > less buggy than Xnest, and the application I am integrating > > > (we do not develop > > > it) with my application will crash under Xnest :( Soooo, > > > XGGI has been the > > > solution under Unix. > > > > > > It runs happily against an X target, and lives within XFree86 > > > in Solaris and > > > Linux. In Windows, it will draw, proving to me that it is > > > kind of working, but > > > you cannot draw to it :( You can try it youself. Run an X > > > server and set your > > > display to the X server. Then, run XGGI :1 -ac (instead of > > > XGGI -targets > > > directx). XGGI will come up as XGGI-on-X (As opposed to > > > XGGI-on-directx). > > > > I will test your suggetions. But I can do over the > weekend, not today. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > The reason we cannot use it as a standalone, is because we > > > want it to draw to a > > > window that is already created (-targets "X:-inwin=winid"). > > > By doing this, we > > > can control a little X server as a window. Kind of neat... > > > which is why I need > > > to get XGGI working in Windows with an X target. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XGGI is a complete X-server, you cannot run like Xnest. You > > > > can run it alongside Exceed. The code of XGGI was slightly > > > modified for > > > > Win32/Cygwin. It also uses different libraries on Win32 > > > then on UNIX. John > > > > Fortin > > > > may shed some light on it. Can you not use Xnest from XFree86? > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:37 PM > > > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > > > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer, but unfortunately, that is not what I > > > > > am looking for. > > > > > I want to run XGGI within the Exceed X server, not alongside > > > > > the Exceed > > > > > Xserver. I need XGGI to work like a nested X server (like > > > > > Xnest, but it needs > > > > > to be XGGI specificly). This works under Unix, and it is > > > > > ALMOST working under > > > > > cygwin, but it just wont display anything. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander posted a solution to a problem similar to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01872.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio > [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:14 AM > > > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > > > > > Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying > to get XGGI > > > > > > > to work like an > > > > > > > Xnest might. I have coppied the binaries, as > well as built > > > > > > > XGGI and the > > > > > > > libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a > > > > > linux box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XGGI :1 -ac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. > > > > > > > From there, there is > > > > > > > nothing. If I try to put an xterm up (after > setting DISPLAY > > > > > > > to :1) it just > > > > > > > hangs, and nothing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 1 12:04:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:04:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: Suhaib, > Therefore I will not let this FAQ to be posted, period, > because it is borrowed work from others I only ask one thing: cite specific examples of where I borrowed from the previous FAQ. Do not make such wild claims if you are unprepared to back them up. Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 12:11:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:11:00 -0000 Subject: Copyright [cgf, please comment] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C72@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> What is it from your FAQ? read carefully is not paraphrasing from cuyrrent FAQ the general part contributed by others 1.3. What is the X Window System? [ScheiflerGettys92] The X Window System, or X, is a network-transparent window system. With X, multiple applications can run simultaneously in windows, generating text and graphics in monochrome or color on a bitmap display. Network transparency means that application programs can run on machines scattered through the network. 1.4. What is XFree86? XFree86, in the words of the XFree86 homepage, is "a freely redistributable open-source implementation of the X Window System that runs on UNIX(R) and UNIX-like (like Linux, the BSDs, Mac OS X (aka Darwin) and Solaris x86 series) operating systems and OS/2." 1.5. What is an X Server? An X Server is a program that provides display and user input services to other programs. In comparision, a file server provides other programs with access to file storage devices. File servers are typically located in a remote location and you use the services of a file server from the machine that you are located at. In contrast, an X Server is typically running on the machine that you are located at; display and user input services may be requested by programs running on your machine, as well as by programs running on remote machines. 1.6. What is an X client? An X client is a program that utilizes the display and user input services provided by an X Server. X clients may run on the same or disparate machine as the X Server that is providing display and user input services. 1.7. Why port XFree86 to Microsoft Windows? Porting XFree86 to Microsoft Windows benefits many people and projects in many ways: Prior to Cygwin/XFree86 only commerical, closed source X Servers were available for Microsoft Windows. An X Server on Windows may be used to display the output of programs running on remote UNIX machines. Cygwin/XFree86, in conjunction with Cygwin, provides a complete compatibility layer for compiling and running UNIX applications on Windows. 1.8. Is there a Cygwin/XFree86 newsgroup? No, Cygwin/XFree86 does not have a newsgroup; however, we do have a mailing list. See Q: 1.9. 1.9. Is there a Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list? Yes, Cygwin/XFree86 has a mailing list, namely, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Visit the Cygwin Mailing Lists page to subscribe to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com as well as to read and search an online archive of the mailing list traffic. Tip: Post your X-related inquires to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com only; do not post nor cross post your inquires to the cygwin@cygwin.com mailing list. Cygwin's mailing list is only for Cygwin API related inquires that are not handled by another more-specific list. 2. Licenses, Patents, Trademarks, and Copyrights > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:03 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; cygx > Subject: RE: Copyright [cgf, please comment] > > > Suhaib, > > > Therefore I will not let this FAQ to be posted, period, > > because it is borrowed work from others > > I only ask one thing: cite specific examples of where I > borrowed from the > previous FAQ. > > Do not make such wild claims if you are unprepared to back them up. > > Harold > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 1 12:21:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:21:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] fork Message-ID: The time has come to fork Cygwin/XFree86. The new project is called X on Cygwin, and the initial materials for the project will be located at: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xoncygwin/ While hosting arrangements are being made, an interim skeleton project has been setup at SourceForge.net: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin/ http://xoncygwin.sourceforge.net/ Feel free to contact me personally if you wish to be notified of project events in the short term future, before a mailing list is established. Goals of the X on Cygwin project: 1) Provide a stable open source X Server for Cygwin 2) Provide ample of documentation for users and contributers 3) Properly track copyrights and authors of each contribution 4) Accept contributions with a smile and encouragement to contribute again I'll gladly accept any newcomers to X on Cygwin. Hope to see you there! :) Harold From jimk@scitechsoft.com Fri Jun 1 14:30:00 2001 From: jimk@scitechsoft.com (jimk) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:30:00 -0000 Subject: makeflags, cross-compiling, and col Message-ID: <3B17A6F0.8142.1310DBC@localhost> Okay, so I'm pretty new to cygwin/xfree86/gcc/Imake etc, so I apologize in advance if I'm giving too much/little info here and for the novel below. How can I get rid of the --unix in Makeflags? I'm trying to do make World and nested down in a bunch of the subdirectories, when make gets to this section of the Makefile, $(ONESUBDIR)/Makefile: @for flag in ${MAKEFLAGS} ''; do \ case "$$flag" in *=*) ;; *[n]*) executeit="no";; esac; done; \ cd $(ONESUBDIR) && \ if [ "$$executeit" != "no" ]; then \ $(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IMAKE) -I$(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IRULESRC) $(IMAKE_DEFINES) -DTO PDIR=$(IMAKETOP) -DCURDIR=$(ONECURDIR)$(ONESUBDIR); \ fi; it basically sees the --unix in MAKEFLAGS, sets executeit="no" and then doesn't run Imake to create the Makefile in each of the subdirectories. I don't know enough about makefiles yet to know why, so here is one of my questions. What is the real intention of that? Just ignoring that case statement lets the Makefiles get built, which is obviously the ultimate intention since if they didn't need to be built, doing a make World wouldn't choke with the statement that it couldn't find a rule to make clean in that subdir. I'm trying to build under cygwin, but I'm using a gcc cross-compiler targeting linux. My other problem (well, one of them) is that I was having a hard time convincing the Imake process to actually use the cross-compiler. I've seen the few examples, but I ended up just setting my cross- compiler as the default compiler and the few things that needed to be compiled native (like imake, makekeys, makestrs) I compiled separately and removed the compile references from the make process. This seems to have worked, but it seems less clean than running a real multi-compiler environment and I'm not sure it is an adequate solution. It also still throws up a number of dialog box errors in certain spots similar to what I get when I try to execute a linux program on my win2k machine from within bash. I haven't figured out where it is yet, but it's right after it does a ranlib on some lib and then an rf -f on that same lib. Would I be better off using a true multi-cross-compiler environment? And if so, how? When I was doing it, it always pulled in the cygwin.cf file and what I really need is for it to pull in the linux.cf file (which it does in my hacked version)? Lastly, it was also choking because it couldn't find the col utility which I don't find in cygwin but I do find in linux. I managed to use a pair of jumper cables and arc around that issue, but I'd like to know what the proper way of handling this is. Get the sources for col and recompile under native cygwin? (where?) Patch in cat in place of col which is what it looks like is done for os2? Thanks a ton for any help/info/tips/counseling -Jim From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 1 16:12:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:12:00 -0000 Subject: makeflags, cross-compiling, and col Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C75@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I have never compiled Xfree86 with a cross-compiler under Cygwin. Therefore I do not guarantee my suggestions will work. I am certain you Will need to do a lot of hacking. > > How can I get rid of the --unix in Makeflags? I'm trying to do make > World and nested down in a bunch of the subdirectories, when > make gets to this section of the Makefile, > > $(ONESUBDIR)/Makefile: > @for flag in ${MAKEFLAGS} ''; do \ > case "$$flag" in *=*) ;; *[n]*) executeit="no";; esac; done; \ > cd $(ONESUBDIR) && \ > if [ "$$executeit" != "no" ]; then \ > $(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IMAKE) -I$(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IRULESRC) > $(IMAKE_DEFINES) -DTO > PDIR=$(IMAKETOP) -DCURDIR=$(ONECURDIR)$(ONESUBDIR); \ > fi; this rule is in xc/config/xc/Imake.rules. @MakeFlagsToShellFlags(n,executeit="no"); \ @@\ cd $(ONESUBDIR) && \ @@\ if [ "$$executeit" != "no" ]; then \ @@\ If you fix the Imake.rules file, your Makefiles should be generated without --unix makeflags? > > it basically sees the --unix in MAKEFLAGS, sets executeit="no" and > then doesn't run Imake to create the Makefile in each of the > subdirectories. I don't know enough about makefiles yet to know > why, so here is one of my questions. > > What is the real intention of that? Just ignoring that case statement > lets the Makefiles get built, which is obviously the ultimate intention > since if they didn't need to be built, doing a make World wouldn't > choke with the statement that it couldn't find a rule to make clean in > that subdir. I do not know what is the real intention of that. Perhaps Alan can shed Light on it? > > I'm trying to build under cygwin, but I'm using a gcc cross-compiler > targeting linux. > > My other problem (well, one of them) is that I was having a hard time > convincing the Imake process to actually use the cross-compiler. > I've seen the few examples, but I ended up just setting my cross- > compiler as the default compiler and the few things that needed to > be compiled native (like imake, makekeys, makestrs) I compiled > separately and removed the compile references from the make > process. This seems to have worked, but it seems less clean than > running a real multi-compiler environment and I'm not sure it is an > adequate solution. It also still throws up a number of dialog box > errors in certain spots similar to what I get when I try to execute a > linux program on my win2k machine from within bash. I haven't > figured out where it is yet, but it's right after it does a ranlib on some > lib and then an rf -f on that same lib. Would I be better off using a > true multi-cross-compiler environment? And if so, how? When I > was doing it, it always pulled in the cygwin.cf file and what I really > need is for it to pull in the linux.cf file (which it does in my hacked > version)? Under Cygwin it supposed to pickup cygwin.cf. I am not a cross-compiler expert therefore I do not know what to tell you about ranlib etc errors. > > Lastly, it was also choking because it couldn't find the col utility > which I don't find in cygwin but I do find in linux. I managed to use > a pair of jumper cables and arc around that issue, but I'd like to > know what the proper way of handling this is. Get the sources for > col and recompile under native cygwin? (where?) Patch in cat in > place of col which is what it looks like is done for os2? You will need to port col utility. I am sure sources should be on Linux SRMS CD. Extract the SRPM file on a linux machine with rpm2cpio. It Should give you a *.tar.gz file, move it to your machine where Cygwin is intsall, and port it to Cygwin. You may ask Cygwin mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com if someone has arleady ported it to Cygwin. Suhaib > > Thanks a ton for any help/info/tips/counseling > > -Jim From alanh@xfree86.org Sat Jun 2 00:37:00 2001 From: alanh@xfree86.org (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:37:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] fork References: Message-ID: <20010602083949.D889@valinux.com> O.k. Now I've seen this I'll comment. >From what I can see the discussion has been along the lines of documentation, not actually code. I'm sad to see that Harold wants to fork the code because of this, especially when the group is heading in exactly the same direction. I don't want to suggest a resolution to the documentation issue, as I think that should be resolved between yourselves, but ....... Please, Please don't fork.... Alan. On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:20:29PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > The time has come to fork Cygwin/XFree86. > > The new project is called X on Cygwin, and the initial materials for the > project will be located at: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xoncygwin/ > > While hosting arrangements are being made, an interim skeleton project has > been setup at SourceForge.net: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin/ > http://xoncygwin.sourceforge.net/ > > Feel free to contact me personally if you wish to be notified of project > events in the short term future, before a mailing list is established. > > Goals of the X on Cygwin project: > 1) Provide a stable open source X Server for Cygwin > 2) Provide ample of documentation for users and contributers > 3) Properly track copyrights and authors of each contribution > 4) Accept contributions with a smile and encouragement to > contribute again > > I'll gladly accept any newcomers to X on Cygwin. > > Hope to see you there! :) > > Harold From trevorforbes@ozemail.com.au Sat Jun 2 03:25:00 2001 From: trevorforbes@ozemail.com.au (Trevor Forbes) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:25:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] fork References: <20010602083949.D889@valinux.com> Message-ID: <019201c0eb4e$4b6c5060$0200a8c0@voyager> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" To: "cygx" Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2001 5:09 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] fork > O.k. Now I've seen this I'll comment. > > From what I can see the discussion has been along the lines of documentation, > not actually code. I'm sad to see that Harold wants to fork the code because > of this, especially when the group is heading in exactly the same direction. > > I don't want to suggest a resolution to the documentation issue, as I think > that should be resolved between yourselves, but ....... > > Please, Please don't fork.... Ditto Please don't fork............ :{ Regards Trevor From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Jun 2 03:45:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:45:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] fork References: <20010602083949.D889@valinux.com> <019201c0eb4e$4b6c5060$0200a8c0@voyager> Message-ID: <00a801c0eb51$1d4c1e60$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Effective immediately, I am resigning as the web site maintainer. This isn't a "If I can't have what I want waaaaah" comment - I believe that Harold's code contributions, and the volume of written material he is interested in producing, are of more value to the project today, than what I'm bringing, which seems to mainly be strife. So I suspect that if I step out of the discussion, things might return to a more normal perspective. I believe that a fork that isn't even about the nature or type of code is far too early for a project this size. I have not lost interest in the project, just recognising that my desire for getting some of these things organised in public in advance doesn't fit with the development approach of the most productive member :] I am very happy to finish the documentation build system, get the bugs out of the website/docbook stylesheets and so forth, but I will not do so for the xfree86/Cygwin documentation unless requested by whoever replaces me as website maintainer. Besides which, there's plenty of other pies my fingers are in, and too little time to cook em'. So you'll still find me on the list, as just another user. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" > O.k. Now I've seen this I'll comment. > > From what I can see the discussion has been along the lines of documentation, > not actually code. I'm sad to see that Harold wants to fork the code because > of this, especially when the group is heading in exactly the same direction. > > I don't want to suggest a resolution to the documentation issue, as I think > that should be resolved between yourselves, but ....... > > Please, Please don't fork.... From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 2 05:30:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 05:30:00 -0000 Subject: FW: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C78@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Brian, Sorry for late reply. Try directx direct. It should work. I tested your scenario with Exceed, with target X XGGI does not display but with target directx it does. I remember, now, that target X on Win32 platform was having display problems. For target directx you will need to install direct libraries. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:07 PM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > XGGI defaults to a target of X > > > > > > So XGGI is does not work on an X target, only a direct X target? > > > In Unix, XGGI works on an X target, creating an X server nested > > > within another X server. > > > This allows for programs that want sole use of the X server > > > to run happily with > > > other programs on the same screen. > > > > If you use target X. Have installed GGI libraries for X? using > > target X it suppose to behave like it does on UNIX... If you specify > > target directx, it will use only directX. > > > > >Xnest does this, and so > > > does XGGI. XGGI is > > > less buggy than Xnest, and the application I am integrating (we > > >do not develop > > > it) with my application will crash under Xnest :( Soooo, XGGI > > >has been the solution under Unix. > > > > > > It runs happily against an X target, and lives within XFree86 in > > > Solaris and Linux. In Windows, it will draw, proving to me that > > > it is kind of working, but > > > you cannot draw to it :( You can try it youself. Run an X > > > server and set your > > > display to the X server. Then, run XGGI :1 -ac (instead of > > > XGGI -targets > > > directx). XGGI will come up as XGGI-on-X (As opposed to > > > XGGI-on-directx). > > > > I will test your suggetions. But I can do over the weekend, not > > today. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > The reason we cannot use it as a standalone, is because we want it > > > to draw to a window that is already created (-targets > > > "X:-inwin=winid"). By doing this, we > > > can control a little X server as a window. Kind of neat... > > > which is why I need > > > to get XGGI working in Windows with an X target. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XGGI is a complete X-server, you cannot run like Xnest. You can > > > > run it alongside Exceed. The code of XGGI was slightly > > > modified for > > > > Win32/Cygwin. It also uses different libraries on Win32 > > > then on UNIX. John > > > > Fortin > > > > may shed some light on it. Can you not use Xnest from XFree86? > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:37 PM > > > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > > > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer, but unfortunately, that is not what I > > > > > am looking for. I want to run XGGI within the Exceed X server, > > > > > not alongside the Exceed > > > > > Xserver. I need XGGI to work like a nested X server (like > > > > > Xnest, but it needs > > > > > to be XGGI specificly). This works under Unix, and it is > > > > > ALMOST working under > > > > > cygwin, but it just wont display anything. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander posted a solution to a problem similar to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01872.h > > > > > > tml > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio > > > > > > > [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:14 AM > > > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > > > > > Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying to get > > > > > > > XGGI to work like an Xnest might. I have coppied the > > > > > > > binaries, as well as built XGGI and the > > > > > > > libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a > > > > > linux box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XGGI :1 -ac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. > > > > > > > From there, there is nothing. If I try to put an xterm up > > > > > > > (after setting DISPLAY to :1) it just > > > > > > > hangs, and nothing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 2 16:57:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:57:00 -0000 Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C7E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Brian, I believe you will still be able to control it from other X programs. Give it a try please. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:56 PM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > Thank you for your suggestions, but direct X will not work for me. I need > to > draw XGGI to an X window, so I can controll it from other X programs. > > Thank you, > Brian > > > > > Brian, > > > > Sorry for late reply. Try directx direct. It should work. I tested your > > scenario with Exceed, with target X XGGI does not display but with > target > > directx it does. I remember, now, that target X on Win32 platform was > > having display problems. > > For target directx you will need to install direct libraries. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:07 PM > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > XGGI defaults to a target of X > > > > > > > > > > > > So XGGI is does not work on an X target, only a direct X > > > > > target? In Unix, XGGI > > > > > works on an X target, creating an X server nested within > > > > > another X server. > > > > > This allows for programs that want sole use of the X server > > > > > to run happily with > > > > > other programs on the same screen. > > > > > > > > If you use target X. Have installed GGI libraries for X? > > > > using target X it suppose to behave like it does on UNIX... > > > > If you specify target directx, it will use only directX. > > > > > > > > >Xnest does this, and so > > > > > does XGGI. XGGI is > > > > > less buggy than Xnest, and the application I am integrating > > > > > (we do not develop > > > > > it) with my application will crash under Xnest :( Soooo, > > > > > XGGI has been the > > > > > solution under Unix. > > > > > > > > > > It runs happily against an X target, and lives within XFree86 > > > > > in Solaris and > > > > > Linux. In Windows, it will draw, proving to me that it is > > > > > kind of working, but > > > > > you cannot draw to it :( You can try it youself. Run an X > > > > > server and set your > > > > > display to the X server. Then, run XGGI :1 -ac (instead of > > > > > XGGI -targets > > > > > directx). XGGI will come up as XGGI-on-X (As opposed to > > > > > XGGI-on-directx). > > > > > > > > I will test your suggetions. But I can do over the weekend, not > today. > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason we cannot use it as a standalone, is because we > > > > > want it to draw to a > > > > > window that is already created (-targets "X:-inwin=winid"). > > > > > By doing this, we > > > > > can control a little X server as a window. Kind of neat... > > > > > which is why I need > > > > > to get XGGI working in Windows with an X target. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XGGI is a complete X-server, you cannot run like Xnest. You > > > > > > can run it alongside Exceed. The code of XGGI was slightly > > > > > modified for > > > > > > Win32/Cygwin. It also uses different libraries on Win32 > > > > > then on UNIX. John > > > > > > Fortin > > > > > > may shed some light on it. Can you not use Xnest from XFree86? > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:37 PM > > > > > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > > > > > Subject: Re: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer, but unfortunately, that is not what I > > > > > > > am looking for. > > > > > > > I want to run XGGI within the Exceed X server, not alongside > > > > > > > the Exceed > > > > > > > Xserver. I need XGGI to work like a nested X server (like > > > > > > > Xnest, but it needs > > > > > > > to be XGGI specificly). This works under Unix, and it is > > > > > > > ALMOST working under > > > > > > > cygwin, but it just wont display anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander posted a solution to a problem similar to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001- > q2/msg01872.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio > [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:14 AM > > > > > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > > > > > > > Subject: XGGI-on-X ... nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello fello Cygwin / Xf86 people... I am trying to get > XGGI > > > > > > > > > to work like an > > > > > > > > > Xnest might. I have coppied the binaries, as well as > built > > > > > > > > > XGGI and the > > > > > > > > > libraries supporting XGGI. I run XGGI like I would on a > > > > > > > linux box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XGGI :1 -ac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This works, and brings XGGI up, with a black background. > > > > > > > > > From there, there is > > > > > > > > > nothing. If I try to put an xterm up (after setting > DISPLAY > > > > > > > > > to :1) it just > > > > > > > > > hangs, and nothing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 2 18:37:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 18:37:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0 Binary Release Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C7F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> New binaries for XFree86 4.1.0 are available under xc-4-binaries/4.1.0. PEX and XIE extensions are deprecated therefore PEX, and XIE libraries are not available, any more. The xmkmf issues which Andy Markebo ( http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01676.html ) reported is fixed in this release. Sources tar-balls had not been uploaded yet. They will be soon, this weekend. Please use the nearest mirror available for you. (It might take upto 24 hour for new binaries to show up at mirror sites). Thanks Suhaib From levisenft@home.com Sun Jun 3 17:34:00 2001 From: levisenft@home.com (Levi Senft) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 17:34:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin\XFree86 missing DLL, libz.dll Message-ID: I just installed Cygwin and Xfree86. When I run "startx" from bash I get the following error message at the command line: $ startx waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . giving up. xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. And a window pops up with the title "XWin.exe - Unable to Locate DLL". The message says "The dynamic link libary libz.dll could not be found in the specified path" Then gives all the paths. I did a search and found libz.dll.a in c:\cygwin\lib so I included it in the path in /etc/profile. Has any one else had this problem? Any help would be much appreciated. From cgf@redhat.com Sun Jun 3 19:39:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 19:39:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] fork References: Message-ID: <20010603223941.A6844@redhat.com> I'm sorry to hear about this, Harold, but good luck with your endeavors. Unless I hear otherwise from you, your cvs checkin privileges for this project will remain. Let me know if you'd rather be removed. cgf On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:20:29PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >The time has come to fork Cygwin/XFree86. > >The new project is called X on Cygwin, and the initial materials for the >project will be located at: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xoncygwin/ > >While hosting arrangements are being made, an interim skeleton project has >been setup at SourceForge.net: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin/ > http://xoncygwin.sourceforge.net/ > >Feel free to contact me personally if you wish to be notified of project >events in the short term future, before a mailing list is established. > >Goals of the X on Cygwin project: >1) Provide a stable open source X Server for Cygwin >2) Provide ample of documentation for users and contributers >3) Properly track copyrights and authors of each contribution >4) Accept contributions with a smile and encouragement to > contribute again > >I'll gladly accept any newcomers to X on Cygwin. > >Hope to see you there! :) > >Harold -- cgf@cygnus.com Red Hat, Inc. http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From res0a6pd@verizon.net Sun Jun 3 22:06:00 2001 From: res0a6pd@verizon.net (Jeff G Strome) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:06:00 -0000 Subject: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP Message-ID: <010601c0ecb4$0bf5cb20$0200a8c0@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> When I run startxwin.bat the only thing I see is the blank Cygwin/XFree86 desktop, with a small rectangle in the top left corner that says bash. When I click on it, it disappears. Xterm failed to launch also. Any ideas what is causing the errors below -- the font problem and the heap problem. I have all the required fonts installed. I'm running this on a post beta 2 build of WindowsXP. $ rxvt: can't load font "Lucida Console-12" C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap (0x2760000) in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap (0x24B0000) in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\xterm.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap (0x2470000) in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 $ cygcheck -s Cygnus Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Sun Jun 3 21:15:12 2001 WinNT Ver 5.1 build 2484 Path: /usr/local/bin /usr/bin /bin /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32 /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/WBEM /cygdrive/c/Program Files/SecureCRT 3.0 SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\System32 WinDir: C:\WINDOWS PWD = `/' USER = `Jeff' MAKE_MODE = `unix' HOME = `/home/Jeff' Use `-r' to scan registry a: fd N/A N/A c: hd FAT32 19083Mb 19% CP UN d: cd N/A N/A C:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin system binmode C:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib system binmode C:\cygwin / system binmode c: /cygdrive/c user binmode,noumount Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe 56k 2000/12/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll 18k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll 14k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll 45k 2000/10/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll 119k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll 163k 2001/05/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll 17k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll 108k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll 243k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll 45k 2000/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll 41k 2001/05/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll 49k 2001/02/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll 678k 2001/05/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Cygwin DLL version info: dll major: 1003 dll minor: 2 dll epoch: 19 dll bad signal mask: 19005 dll old termios: 5 dll malloc env: 28 api major: 0 api minor: 39 shared data: 3 dll identifier: cygwin1 mount registry: 2 cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions cygwin registry name: Cygwin program options name: Program Options cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix cygdrive default prefix: build date: Sun May 20 23:28:17 EDT 2001 shared id: cygwin1S3 Use -h to see help about each section thanks, Jeff Strome From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 4 01:05:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 01:05:00 -0000 Subject: bad links References: <200105111947.PAA15537@mailhost.eng.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: Marty, > Is Harold Hunt's Cygwin/XFree86 users guide available in a printable > (non-html) format? Yes, as of about 30 minutes ago: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/ I've got html, pdf, ps, txt, and rtf available for download. html is the only format that gives correct formatting, the other formats are new, so I haven't had a chance to work out any bugs. For example, the last three pictures in the User's Guide overflow the right hand side of the page in pdf and ps. rtf doesn't have any graphics, and txt has some oddities to it. Let me know what you think, Harold From ShugaoYe@netscape.net Mon Jun 4 04:00:00 2001 From: ShugaoYe@netscape.net (ShugaoYe@netscape.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:00:00 -0000 Subject: XDM problem Message-ID: <2140A95F.340EE15D.00828945@netscape.net> Does XDM work on cygwin xfree86 ? When I try to run it from a bash console, I got permission problem. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 04:05:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:05:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin\XFree86 missing DLL, libz.dll Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C82@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Which version of Xfree86? 4.1.0? If so, it should use cygz.dll which ships with Cygwin. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Levi Senft [ mailto:levisenft@home.com ] > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 8:36 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Cygwin\XFree86 missing DLL, libz.dll > > I just installed Cygwin and Xfree86. When I run "startx" from bash I get > the following error message at the command line: > > $ startx > > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > giving up. > xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X > server > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > And a window pops up with the title "XWin.exe - Unable to Locate DLL". > The > message says "The dynamic link libary libz.dll could not be found in the > specified path" Then gives all the paths. I did a search and found > libz.dll.a in c:\cygwin\lib so I included it in the path in /etc/profile. > > Has any one else had this problem? Any help would be much appreciated. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 04:11:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:11:00 -0000 Subject: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C83@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> The Xfree86 works on Windows XP (Personal and Professioanl Beta 2), but xterm fails and gives a cygheap error. Once Cygwin1.dll is available for Windows XP, you should be able to use Xterm. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff G Strome [ mailto:res0a6pd@verizon.net ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:06 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP > > When I run startxwin.bat the only thing I see is the blank Cygwin/XFree86 > desktop, with a small rectangle in the top left corner that says bash. > When > I click on it, it disappears. Xterm failed to launch also. Any ideas > what > is causing the errors below -- the font problem and the heap problem. I > have all the required fonts installed. I'm running this on a post beta 2 > build of WindowsXP. > > $ rxvt: can't load font "Lucida Console-12" > C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap > (0x2760000) > in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap > (0x24B0000) > in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\xterm.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's > heap > (0x2470000) in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > > $ cygcheck -s > > Cygnus Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics > Current System Time: Sun Jun 3 21:15:12 2001 > > WinNT Ver 5.1 build 2484 > > Path: /usr/local/bin > /usr/bin > /bin > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32 > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/WBEM > /cygdrive/c/Program Files/SecureCRT 3.0 > > SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\System32 > WinDir: C:\WINDOWS > > PWD = `/' > USER = `Jeff' > MAKE_MODE = `unix' > HOME = `/home/Jeff' > > Use `-r' to scan registry > > a: fd N/A N/A > c: hd FAT32 19083Mb 19% CP UN > d: cd N/A N/A > > C:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin system binmode > C:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib system binmode > C:\cygwin / system binmode > c: /cygdrive/c user binmode,noumount > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > 56k 2000/12/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll > 18k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll > 14k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll > 45k 2000/10/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll > 119k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll > 163k 2001/05/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll > 17k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll > 108k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll > 243k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll > 45k 2000/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll > 41k 2001/05/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll > 49k 2001/02/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll > 678k 2001/05/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > Cygwin DLL version info: > dll major: 1003 > dll minor: 2 > dll epoch: 19 > dll bad signal mask: 19005 > dll old termios: 5 > dll malloc env: 28 > api major: 0 > api minor: 39 > shared data: 3 > dll identifier: cygwin1 > mount registry: 2 > cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > cygwin registry name: Cygwin > program options name: Program Options > cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > cygdrive default prefix: > build date: Sun May 20 23:28:17 EDT 2001 > shared id: cygwin1S3 > > Use -h to see help about each section > > thanks, > Jeff Strome > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 04:20:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:20:00 -0000 Subject: XDM problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C86@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Why do you want to use XDM? To login to what? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: ShugaoYe@netscape.net [ mailto:ShugaoYe@netscape.net ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:00 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XDM problem > > Does XDM work on cygwin xfree86 ? When I try to run it from a bash > console, I got permission problem. > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ From a.shah@tu-bs.de Mon Jun 4 06:33:00 2001 From: a.shah@tu-bs.de (Akbar Shah) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 06:33:00 -0000 Subject: German Keyboard Message-ID: Hi cygwin-xfree people, I have downloaded the programm, and its running without any problems, thanks for the wounderful program. I have only one question, what shoud I do to the german keyboard running with xfree? Thanks for the reply Regards Akbar Shah +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. Akbar Shah a.shah@tu-bs.de From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 06:38:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 06:38:00 -0000 Subject: German Keyboard Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C8B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You can get xmodmap files for European keyboards from http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/index.php3?jump=xfree Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Akbar Shah [ mailto:a.shah@tu-bs.de ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:34 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: German Keyboard > > > Hi cygwin-xfree people, > I have downloaded the programm, and its running without any > problems, thanks > for the wounderful program. I have only one question, what > shoud I do to the > german keyboard running with xfree? > Thanks for the reply > Regards > > Akbar Shah > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dr. Akbar Shah a.shah@tu-bs.de > From res0a6pd@verizon.net Mon Jun 4 07:33:00 2001 From: res0a6pd@verizon.net (Jeff G Strome) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C83@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <014101c0ed03$3ca75d20$0200a8c0@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Thanks Suhaib. Will that new DLL also address the bash.exe heap error, as well as the font error? When do you expect the new DLL to be available, after XP ships? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Jeff G Strome'" ; Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:11 AM Subject: RE: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP > The Xfree86 works on Windows XP (Personal and Professioanl Beta 2), but > xterm fails and gives a cygheap error. Once Cygwin1.dll is available for > Windows XP, you should be able to use Xterm. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff G Strome [ mailto:res0a6pd@verizon.net ] > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:06 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP > > > > When I run startxwin.bat the only thing I see is the blank Cygwin/XFree86 > > desktop, with a small rectangle in the top left corner that says bash. > > When > > I click on it, it disappears. Xterm failed to launch also. Any ideas > > what > > is causing the errors below -- the font problem and the heap problem. I > > have all the required fonts installed. I'm running this on a post beta 2 > > build of WindowsXP. > > > > $ rxvt: can't load font "Lucida Console-12" > > C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap > > (0x2760000) > > in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > > C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap > > (0x24B0000) > > in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\xterm.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's > > heap > > (0x2470000) in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > > > > $ cygcheck -s > > > > Cygnus Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics > > Current System Time: Sun Jun 3 21:15:12 2001 > > > > WinNT Ver 5.1 build 2484 > > > > Path: /usr/local/bin > > /usr/bin > > /bin > > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32 > > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS > > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/WBEM > > /cygdrive/c/Program Files/SecureCRT 3.0 > > > > SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\System32 > > WinDir: C:\WINDOWS > > > > PWD = `/' > > USER = `Jeff' > > MAKE_MODE = `unix' > > HOME = `/home/Jeff' > > > > Use `-r' to scan registry > > > > a: fd N/A N/A > > c: hd FAT32 19083Mb 19% CP UN > > d: cd N/A N/A > > > > C:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin system binmode > > C:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib system binmode > > C:\cygwin / system binmode > > c: /cygdrive/c user binmode,noumount > > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > > > 56k 2000/12/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll > > 18k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll > > 14k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll > > 45k 2000/10/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll > > 119k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll > > 163k 2001/05/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll > > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll > > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll > > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll > > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll > > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll > > 17k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll > > 108k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll > > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll > > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll > > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll > > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll > > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll > > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll > > 243k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll > > 45k 2000/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll > > 41k 2001/05/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll > > 49k 2001/02/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll > > 678k 2001/05/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > > Cygwin DLL version info: > > dll major: 1003 > > dll minor: 2 > > dll epoch: 19 > > dll bad signal mask: 19005 > > dll old termios: 5 > > dll malloc env: 28 > > api major: 0 > > api minor: 39 > > shared data: 3 > > dll identifier: cygwin1 > > mount registry: 2 > > cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > > cygwin registry name: Cygwin > > program options name: Program Options > > cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > > cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > > cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > > cygdrive default prefix: > > build date: Sun May 20 23:28:17 EDT 2001 > > shared id: cygwin1S3 > > > > Use -h to see help about each section > > > > thanks, > > Jeff Strome > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 08:03:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 08:03:00 -0000 Subject: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C8C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Jeff, This is a Cygwin question. You may get a more appropriate response to your questions at cygwin@cygwin.com. Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff G Strome [ mailto:res0a6pd@verizon.net ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:33 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP > > > Thanks Suhaib. Will that new DLL also address the bash.exe > heap error, as > well as the font error? When do you expect the new DLL to be > available, > after XP ships? > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: "'Jeff G Strome'" ; > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:11 AM > Subject: RE: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP > > > > The Xfree86 works on Windows XP (Personal and Professioanl > Beta 2), but > > xterm fails and gives a cygheap error. Once Cygwin1.dll is > available for > > Windows XP, you should be able to use Xterm. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jeff G Strome [ mailto:res0a6pd@verizon.net ] > > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:06 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Errors running Cygwin/XFree86 on WindowsXP > > > > > > When I run startxwin.bat the only thing I see is the blank > Cygwin/XFree86 > > > desktop, with a small rectangle in the top left corner > that says bash. > > > When > > > I click on it, it disappears. Xterm failed to launch > also. Any ideas > > > what > > > is causing the errors below -- the font problem and the > heap problem. > I > > > have all the required fonts installed. I'm running this > on a post beta > 2 > > > build of WindowsXP. > > > > > > $ rxvt: can't load font "Lucida Console-12" > > > C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for > cygwin's heap > > > (0x2760000) > > > in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > > > C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for > cygwin's heap > > > (0x24B0000) > > > in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\xterm.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for > cygwin's > > > heap > > > (0x2470000) in child, cygheap, Win32 error 487 > > > > > > $ cygcheck -s > > > > > > Cygnus Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics > > > Current System Time: Sun Jun 3 21:15:12 2001 > > > > > > WinNT Ver 5.1 build 2484 > > > > > > Path: /usr/local/bin > > > /usr/bin > > > /bin > > > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32 > > > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS > > > /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/WBEM > > > /cygdrive/c/Program Files/SecureCRT 3.0 > > > > > > SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\System32 > > > WinDir: C:\WINDOWS > > > > > > PWD = `/' > > > USER = `Jeff' > > > MAKE_MODE = `unix' > > > HOME = `/home/Jeff' > > > > > > Use `-r' to scan registry > > > > > > a: fd N/A N/A > > > c: hd FAT32 19083Mb 19% CP UN > > > d: cd N/A N/A > > > > > > C:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin system binmode > > > C:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib system binmode > > > C:\cygwin / system binmode > > > c: /cygdrive/c user binmode,noumount > > > > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > > > > > 56k 2000/12/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll > > > 18k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll > > > 14k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll > > > 45k 2000/10/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll > > > 119k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll > > > 163k 2001/05/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll > > > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll > > > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll > > > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll > > > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll > > > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll > > > 17k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll > > > 108k 2001/01/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll > > > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll > > > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll > > > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll > > > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll > > > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll > > > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll > > > 243k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll > > > 45k 2000/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll > > > 41k 2001/05/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll > > > 49k 2001/02/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll > > > 678k 2001/05/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > > > Cygwin DLL version info: > > > dll major: 1003 > > > dll minor: 2 > > > dll epoch: 19 > > > dll bad signal mask: 19005 > > > dll old termios: 5 > > > dll malloc env: 28 > > > api major: 0 > > > api minor: 39 > > > shared data: 3 > > > dll identifier: cygwin1 > > > mount registry: 2 > > > cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > > > cygwin registry name: Cygwin > > > program options name: Program Options > > > cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > > > cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > > > cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > > > cygdrive default prefix: > > > build date: Sun May 20 23:28:17 EDT 2001 > > > shared id: cygwin1S3 > > > > > > Use -h to see help about each section > > > > > > thanks, > > > Jeff Strome > > > > > > From Pierre.Humblet@ieee.org Mon Jun 4 08:09:00 2001 From: Pierre.Humblet@ieee.org (Pierre A. Humblet) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 08:09:00 -0000 Subject: libz.dll in 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C83@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <014101c0ed03$3ca75d20$0200a8c0@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Message-ID: <3B1BA542.EEB9707F@ieee.org> I downloaded and installed the 4.1.0 tar files in a clean environment. A bunch of programs are looking for libz.dll, none is looking for cygz.dll Copying cygz.dll as libz.dll makes them happy. Pierre From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 08:19:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: libz.dll in 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C8D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Hi Pierre, Yeah, I know. After reading the first post today morning, I checked cygwin.cf file. Apparantly one #define for Gzip library after HasZlib was removed from cygwin.cf I do not recall, It was me who removed it. I have submitted a patch to fix it. I will uplaod a libz.dll archive for time being, and soon I will try to update binary release so it uses cygz.dll from Cygwin. Sorry about it. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierre A. Humblet [ mailto:Pierre.Humblet@ieee.org ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:12 AM > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: libz.dll in 4.1.0 > > > I downloaded and installed the 4.1.0 tar files > in a clean environment. > A bunch of programs are looking for libz.dll, > none is looking for cygz.dll > Copying cygz.dll as libz.dll makes them happy. > > Pierre > From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 4 13:53:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:53:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 Message-ID: <15131.62770.90685.594862@joplin.Colorado.EDU> I have installed the binaries for 4.1.0 on my desktop PC running Windows98 cygwin 1.3.2 no previous xfree installation All works well except for the fact that about once a minute, a backtick ('`') appears in the window that has the focus. I have installed 4.0.3 on my laptop, running Windows98SE cygwin 1.3.2 and, with the same general setup, I have not seen this problem. On the desktop, I have tried both twm and vtwm as window managers. I took the latter from the 4.0.3 distribution.) I have tried vtwm with and without .vtwmrc. The results are the same. I start xfree with this simple script, which apart from the screen parameters, is the same on the laptop: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh eval `ssh-agent` XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 & vtwm & xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 xclock -geometry 80x80+1134+0 & xterm -n xterm-1 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry +361+0 -e bash & xterm -n xterm-2 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry +0+396 -e bash & xterm -n xterm-3 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry +508+343 -e bash & exit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (The laptop has 1024x768x16 instead of 1280x1024x32.) The problem exists also if I comment out the "ssh-agent" line. It exists also when I have all local clients. However, the backticks do not seem to show up when the window in which xfree runs is "minimized." Any suggestions on what I could try next? Thanks Fabio Somenzi From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 14:00:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C90@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I will try to reproduceit with your startup script. I have not seen it. However, once in a while I used to get a tiny Virtual Windows Manager icon for vtwm, which I always assumed was due to a bug in vtwm. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:53 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Cc: Fabio Somenzi > Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 > > > I have installed the binaries for 4.1.0 on my desktop PC running > > Windows98 > cygwin 1.3.2 > no previous xfree installation > > All works well except for the fact that about once a minute, a > backtick ('`') appears in the window that has the focus. > > I have installed 4.0.3 on my laptop, running > > Windows98SE > cygwin 1.3.2 > > and, with the same general setup, I have not seen this problem. > > On the desktop, I have tried both twm and vtwm as window managers. I > took the latter from the 4.0.3 distribution.) > I have tried vtwm with and without .vtwmrc. The results are the same. > > I start xfree with this simple script, which apart from the screen > parameters, is the same on the laptop: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > #! /bin/sh > > eval `ssh-agent` > XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 & > vtwm & > xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 > xclock -geometry 80x80+1134+0 & > xterm -n xterm-1 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > +361+0 -e bash & > xterm -n xterm-2 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > +0+396 -e bash & > xterm -n xterm-3 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > +508+343 -e bash & > exit > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > (The laptop has 1024x768x16 instead of 1280x1024x32.) > > The problem exists also if I comment out the "ssh-agent" line. It > exists also when I have all local clients. However, the backticks do > not seem to show up when the window in which xfree runs is > "minimized." Any suggestions on what I could try next? > > > Thanks > > > Fabio Somenzi > From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 4 14:49:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 14:49:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C90@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15132.637.472245.584813@joplin.Colorado.EDU> Suhaib, Thanks for the prompt reply. I ran a few more experiments. I still get the backticks even when: 1. I run without window manager. 2. I disable McAfee Virus Scan. 3. I change the screen parameters from 1280x1024x32 to 1280x1024x16 in the call to XWin. I didn't mention it explicitly, but just in case..., the backticks only show up in the xfree windows. I've seen them with xterms, rxvts, and with emacs. Fabio >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: SS> I will try to reproduceit with your startup script. I have not seen it. SS> However, once in a while I used to get a tiny Virtual Windows Manager icon SS> for vtwm, which I always assumed was due to a bug in vtwm. SS> Suhaib >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] >> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:53 PM >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >> Cc: Fabio Somenzi >> Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 >> >> >> I have installed the binaries for 4.1.0 on my desktop PC running >> >> Windows98 >> cygwin 1.3.2 >> no previous xfree installation >> >> All works well except for the fact that about once a minute, a >> backtick ('`') appears in the window that has the focus. >> >> I have installed 4.0.3 on my laptop, running >> >> Windows98SE >> cygwin 1.3.2 >> >> and, with the same general setup, I have not seen this problem. >> >> On the desktop, I have tried both twm and vtwm as window managers. I >> took the latter from the 4.0.3 distribution.) >> I have tried vtwm with and without .vtwmrc. The results are the same. >> >> I start xfree with this simple script, which apart from the screen >> parameters, is the same on the laptop: >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> #! /bin/sh >> >> eval `ssh-agent` >> XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 & >> vtwm & >> xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 >> xclock -geometry 80x80+1134+0 & >> xterm -n xterm-1 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry >> +361+0 -e bash & >> xterm -n xterm-2 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry >> +0+396 -e bash & >> xterm -n xterm-3 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry >> +508+343 -e bash & >> exit >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> (The laptop has 1024x768x16 instead of 1280x1024x32.) >> >> The problem exists also if I comment out the "ssh-agent" line. It >> exists also when I have all local clients. However, the backticks do >> not seem to show up when the window in which xfree runs is >> "minimized." Any suggestions on what I could try next? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Fabio Somenzi >> From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 4 16:58:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:58:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C93@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Fabio, I cannot reproduce it. On my systems (Windows 2000, and ME) I do not see it. I left the server on for almost an hour and watched ;-) I do not have Windows 98SE, but on Windows ME I also do not see backtick? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:50 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'Fabio@Colorado.EDU'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: Backticks in 4.1.0 > > Suhaib, > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I ran a few more experiments. I still > get the backticks even when: > > 1. I run without window manager. > > 2. I disable McAfee Virus Scan. > > 3. I change the screen parameters from 1280x1024x32 to 1280x1024x16 in > the call to XWin. > > I didn't mention it explicitly, but just in case..., the backticks > only show up in the xfree windows. I've seen them with xterms, rxvts, > and with emacs. > > > Fabio > > > >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > SS> I will try to reproduceit with your startup script. I have not seen > it. > SS> However, once in a while I used to get a tiny Virtual Windows Manager > icon > SS> for vtwm, which I always assumed was due to a bug in vtwm. > > SS> Suhaib > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > >> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:53 PM > >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >> Cc: Fabio Somenzi > >> Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 > >> > >> > >> I have installed the binaries for 4.1.0 on my desktop PC running > >> > >> Windows98 > >> cygwin 1.3.2 > >> no previous xfree installation > >> > >> All works well except for the fact that about once a minute, a > >> backtick ('`') appears in the window that has the focus. > >> > >> I have installed 4.0.3 on my laptop, running > >> > >> Windows98SE > >> cygwin 1.3.2 > >> > >> and, with the same general setup, I have not seen this problem. > >> > >> On the desktop, I have tried both twm and vtwm as window managers. I > >> took the latter from the 4.0.3 distribution.) > >> I have tried vtwm with and without .vtwmrc. The results are the same. > >> > >> I start xfree with this simple script, which apart from the screen > >> parameters, is the same on the laptop: > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> #! /bin/sh > >> > >> eval `ssh-agent` > >> XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 & > >> vtwm & > >> xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 > >> xclock -geometry 80x80+1134+0 & > >> xterm -n xterm-1 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > >> +361+0 -e bash & > >> xterm -n xterm-2 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > >> +0+396 -e bash & > >> xterm -n xterm-3 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > >> +508+343 -e bash & > >> exit > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> (The laptop has 1024x768x16 instead of 1280x1024x32.) > >> > >> The problem exists also if I comment out the "ssh-agent" line. It > >> exists also when I have all local clients. However, the backticks do > >> not seem to show up when the window in which xfree runs is > >> "minimized." Any suggestions on what I could try next? > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> Fabio Somenzi > >> From porter@et.byu.edu Mon Jun 4 19:15:00 2001 From: porter@et.byu.edu (C. Porter Bassett) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:15:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C93@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <00e501c0ed64$ea714c20$0a00a8c0@PWORK> I have seen this myself on my win2k box. I don't know what to say. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: RE: Backticks in 4.1.0 > Fabio, > > I cannot reproduce it. On my systems (Windows 2000, and ME) I do not see > it. I left the server on for almost an hour and watched ;-) > I do not have Windows 98SE, but on Windows ME I also do not see backtick? > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:50 PM > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > Cc: 'Fabio@Colorado.EDU'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: Backticks in 4.1.0 > > > > Suhaib, > > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I ran a few more experiments. I still > > get the backticks even when: > > > > 1. I run without window manager. > > > > 2. I disable McAfee Virus Scan. > > > > 3. I change the screen parameters from 1280x1024x32 to 1280x1024x16 in > > the call to XWin. > > > > I didn't mention it explicitly, but just in case..., the backticks > > only show up in the xfree windows. I've seen them with xterms, rxvts, > > and with emacs. > > > > > > Fabio > > > > > > >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > > > SS> I will try to reproduceit with your startup script. I have not seen > > it. > > SS> However, once in a while I used to get a tiny Virtual Windows Manager > > icon > > SS> for vtwm, which I always assumed was due to a bug in vtwm. > > > > SS> Suhaib > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > > >> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:53 PM > > >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > >> Cc: Fabio Somenzi > > >> Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 > > >> > > >> > > >> I have installed the binaries for 4.1.0 on my desktop PC running > > >> > > >> Windows98 > > >> cygwin 1.3.2 > > >> no previous xfree installation > > >> > > >> All works well except for the fact that about once a minute, a > > >> backtick ('`') appears in the window that has the focus. > > >> > > >> I have installed 4.0.3 on my laptop, running > > >> > > >> Windows98SE > > >> cygwin 1.3.2 > > >> > > >> and, with the same general setup, I have not seen this problem. > > >> > > >> On the desktop, I have tried both twm and vtwm as window managers. I > > >> took the latter from the 4.0.3 distribution.) > > >> I have tried vtwm with and without .vtwmrc. The results are the same. > > >> > > >> I start xfree with this simple script, which apart from the screen > > >> parameters, is the same on the laptop: > > >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> #! /bin/sh > > >> > > >> eval `ssh-agent` > > >> XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 & > > >> vtwm & > > >> xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 > > >> xclock -geometry 80x80+1134+0 & > > >> xterm -n xterm-1 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > > >> +361+0 -e bash & > > >> xterm -n xterm-2 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > > >> +0+396 -e bash & > > >> xterm -n xterm-3 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry > > >> +508+343 -e bash & > > >> exit > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> (The laptop has 1024x768x16 instead of 1280x1024x32.) > > >> > > >> The problem exists also if I comment out the "ssh-agent" line. It > > >> exists also when I have all local clients. However, the backticks do > > >> not seem to show up when the window in which xfree runs is > > >> "minimized." Any suggestions on what I could try next? > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> > > >> Fabio Somenzi > > >> > From ShugaoYe@netscape.net Mon Jun 4 22:40:00 2001 From: ShugaoYe@netscape.net (ShugaoYe@netscape.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:40:00 -0000 Subject: XDM problem Message-ID: <37772532.3D052C34.00828945@netscape.net> I just set up a Windows NT machine as a server and use cygwin as cross development environment. This Windows NT server will be shared among our developers. Now we need to telnet to this machine and run some X applications and we can not directly login using XDMCP. We actually don't need a X server and we have an exceed on our Windows NT workstation or a X-terminal. Roger Why do you want to use XDM? To login to what? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: ShugaoYe@netscape.net [ mailto:ShugaoYe@netscape.net ] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:00 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XDM problem > > Does XDM work on cygwin xfree86 ? When I try to run it from a bash > console, I got permission problem. > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From choiks@nuri.net Mon Jun 4 22:44:00 2001 From: choiks@nuri.net (=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?w9ax4rz2?=) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:44:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree 4.1.0 doesn't Display Multibyte Character Message-ID: Cygwin XFree 4.0.3 can display multibyte character perfectly. but I can't display multibyte character in Cygwin XFree 4.1.0. I use WindowMaker and I recompiled Windowmaker in cygwin XFree 4.1.0. Is cygwin xfree 4.1.0 not support for multibyte character? please help me!! From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 4 23:30:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 23:30:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C93@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15132.31868.87939.19882@joplin.Colorado.EDU> Suhaib, Thanks for looking into this problem. I've spent some more time to try to figure it out, but to no avail. I thought I may be be on to something when I realized that IRQ 11 is shared by the video and ethernet drivers, but this is true also of my laptop, when I use wired ethernet. Fabio >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: SS> Fabio, SS> I cannot reproduce it. On my systems (Windows 2000, and ME) I do not see SS> it. I left the server on for almost an hour and watched ;-) SS> I do not have Windows 98SE, but on Windows ME I also do not see backtick? SS> Suhaib From Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no Tue Jun 5 01:02:00 2001 From: Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no (Idar Tollefsen) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 01:02:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems Message-ID: > Here they are. I think you find them > under extra/etc/X11/xdm ... Thanks for the files. But still no go. The messages remain the same. I'm repeating my original mail here, just to clarify the situation once more: ------------------------------------------------------------------ When starting X, I get a few of the following messages: Warning: Color name "[color name]" is not defined Where color name is black, yellow and red. I'm also trying to run LyX, the Win32 version, on this X server. It fires up just fine, but the colors are all screwed up, and in the underlying xterm, there's a lot of messages like In LoadXPM [pixmap.c 409] error reading [path and file name of XPM file] (Can't get color) and X can't find color "[color name]". Set to "black"! What can I do about this? Should I have some environment variable point to some sort of RGB database? ------------------------------------------------------------------ After this posting, I have confirmed that rgb.txt is present, and that "showrgb" yields the correct result (that is to say, it doesn't give me any error messages). I now also have .Xdefaults and .Xresources in my $HOME dir. This is really starting to bug me. I can't believe I'm the only one who has this problem...? - IT From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 5 01:08:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 01:08:00 -0000 Subject: Got 8 bits per pixel? Message-ID: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Harold From h.nardmann@secunet.de Tue Jun 5 03:49:00 2001 From: h.nardmann@secunet.de (Heiko Nardmann) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:49:00 -0000 Subject: Q: problem "maximum number of clients reached" Message-ID: <01060512494901.28128@snsrv053> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I suddenly got the following message: Xlib: connection to "sn-pc161.cubis.de:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached How can I increase the maximum number of clients? - -- Heiko Nardmann (Dipl.-Ing.), h.nardmann@secunet.de, Software Development secunet Security Networks AG - Sicherheit in Netzwerken (www.secunet.de), Weidenauer Str. 223-225, D-57076 Siegen Tel. : +49 271 48950-13, Fax : +49 271 48950-50 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7HLlNpm53PRScYygRAvGvAKCOgQbIpgF6VZbW5Mxtn4SKzTPitQCfVELL iRyBggm+5KDdtjAGY3baEYs= =Dw/C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jun 5 04:07:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: Q: problem "maximum number of clients reached" References: <01060512494901.28128@snsrv053> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Heiko Nardmann wrote: > I suddenly got the following message: > > Xlib: connection to "sn-pc161.cubis.de:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached > > How can I increase the maximum number of clients? > recompile the XServer :( in programs/Xserver/os/connection.c put another line after lastfdesc = sysconf(_SC_OPEN_MAX) - 1; with lastfdesc = 255; I don't know if it's safe, but I had it running in a similar way for hours. Or better, ask on cygwin-ml why sysconf(_SC_OPEN_MAX) says that only 26? open files are allowed and beg them to change this. Once they have changed it, XWin should accept more connections without recompiling. :) bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org +49 3725 349 80 80 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 04:10:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: XDM problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C95@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> The following message from Alexander Gottwald (mail arcive) might answer your question. http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01780.html Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: ShugaoYe@netscape.net [ mailto:ShugaoYe@netscape.net ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:40 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: RE: XDM problem > > > I just set up a Windows NT machine as a server and use cygwin > as cross development environment. This Windows NT server will > be shared among our developers. Now we need to telnet to this > machine and run some X applications and we can not directly > login using XDMCP. We actually don't need a X server and we > have an exceed on our Windows NT workstation or a X-terminal. > > > Roger > > Why do you want to use XDM? To login to what? > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ShugaoYe@netscape.net [ mailto:ShugaoYe@netscape.net ] > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:00 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: XDM problem > > > > Does XDM work on cygwin xfree86 ? When I try to run it from a bash > > console, I got permission problem. > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at > > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jun 5 04:29:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:29:00 -0000 Subject: XDM problem References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C95@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > The following message from Alexander Gottwald (mail arcive) might answer > your question. > > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01780.html > I don't think so. > > > > > > Does XDM work on cygwin xfree86 ? When I try to run it from a bash > > > console, I got permission problem. > > > Only root wants to run xdm? Please try "xdm -debug 1". digging through the source i found the following lines: /* * Only allow root to run in non-debug mode to avoid problems */ if (debugLevel == 0 && getuid() != 0) { fprintf (stderr, "Only root wants to run %s\n", argv[0]); exit (1); } HTH, bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 04:34:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:34:00 -0000 Subject: XDM problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C96@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Only root wants to run xdm? Well, normally on UNIX only root runs xdm ;-) That is an issue on Windows. I never thought xdm will be of much use to Windows users... I guess I was wrong ;-) Suhaib > > Please try "xdm -debug 1". digging through the source i found > the following > lines: > /* > > * Only allow root to run in non-debug mode to avoid > problems > */ > > if (debugLevel == 0 && getuid() != 0) > > { > > fprintf (stderr, "Only root wants to run %s\n", > argv[0]); > exit (1); > > } > > > > HTH, bye > ago > > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 06:13:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:13:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin\XFree86 missing DLL, libz.dll Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C97@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I put a libz.dll.bz2 last night under 4.1.0. I will update binaries when I get time. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Levi Senft [ mailto:levisenft@home.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:10 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: Cygwin\XFree86 missing DLL, libz.dll > > > I did download 4.1. I ended up downloading 4.0.3 to see if > the .ddl was in > there, and it was. Is 4.1 intended as a patch or full distribution? > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib > Siddiqi > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:05 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: Cygwin\XFree86 missing DLL, libz.dll > > > Which version of Xfree86? 4.1.0? If so, it should use > cygz.dll which ships > with Cygwin. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Levi Senft [ mailto:levisenft@home.com ] > > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 8:36 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Cygwin\XFree86 missing DLL, libz.dll > > > > I just installed Cygwin and Xfree86. When I run "startx" > from bash I get > > the following error message at the command line: > > > > $ startx > > > > > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > > giving up. > > xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X > > server > > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > > > And a window pops up with the title "XWin.exe - Unable to > Locate DLL". > > The > > message says "The dynamic link libary libz.dll could not be > found in the > > specified path" Then gives all the paths. I did a search and found > > libz.dll.a in c:\cygwin\lib so I included it in the path in > /etc/profile. > > > > Has any one else had this problem? Any help would be much > appreciated. > From karl.philipp@danet.de Tue Jun 5 08:40:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:40:00 -0000 Subject: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions Message-ID: Hi, today I've used XFree 4.1.0 the first time, I should better say I've tried it. I installed it on a WinNT-PC with a clean cygwin installation. I launched the commands > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=.;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% > XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -query -from Okay, the screen was put up for a remote CDE session. I could login. But after some objects, especially dterms, appeared, XWin crashed with following messages: 0 [main] XWin 262 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 640 [main] XWin 262 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to XWin.exe.stackdump Damned! I get the same error message when I don't use XDMCP launching the original 'startwin.bat', although XWin doesn't crash. Here an extract of the file 'twm.exe.stackdump': Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610292FC eax=0020001E ebx=00000000 ecx=61095338 edx=00000002 esi=0020001E edi=0A052430 ebp=0246FB64 esp=0246FB40 program=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\twm.exe cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003B gs=0000 ss=0023 Stack trace: Frame Function Args 0246FB64 610292FC (0020001E, 0A0525A0, 0246FC1C, 00012017) ... End of stack trace Thanks for your help. Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Tue Jun 5 08:42:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:42:00 -0000 Subject: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 Message-ID: <200106051542.f55FgVw95736@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Hello, I am running XF86 4.1.0 with DirectX 8.0 installed. When I attempt to run with -fullscreen -screen 0 1280x1024x3 , The Server will not start. Full screen mode will work in 1024x768, but the higher res does not work. Has anyone seen this? I get the following error : winAllocateFBShadowDDNL() - Could not set full screen display mode Any ideas? Thanks, Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 08:44:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:44:00 -0000 Subject: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C99@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> why 3 in 1280x1024x3, please? or it is a typo? Try reducing resolution. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:43 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 > > > Hello, > I am running XF86 4.1.0 with DirectX 8.0 installed. When I > attempt to run with > -fullscreen -screen 0 1280x1024x3 , The Server will not > start. Full screen > mode will work in 1024x768, but the higher res does not work. > Has anyone seen > this? I get the following error : > > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL() - Could not set full screen display mode > > Any ideas? > Thanks, > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 09:18:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C9A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > No problem. Please, don't feel pressured. I'll just report briefly > on a few more experiments I did while they are still fresh in my > memory. I tried, all without success: > > 1. Used 1024x768x32 in the invocation of XWin on my > 1280x1024x32 screen. I know. If the screen drawn in fullscreen mood is bigger then your monitor, I know xwin crashes. > > 2. Used -fullscreen. Here I have to report that Alt-F4 does not shut > down the sever for me. Alt-Tab works, and the F4 key also works in > other contexts. That is a outstanding bug > > 3. Removed "-engine 4" from the XWin call. > > 4. Launched XWin from the DOS prompt. I had to change a few things in > startxwin.bat, because it wouldn't work out of the box. In > particular, the "/B" option was reported as invalid. The result > I got was not pretty---among other things twm didn't manage the > xterms---but I was able to see the backticks nonetheless. Those are Windows9x/ME limitations. On Windows9x/ME the /B option is not valid on Windows NT/2000 Suhaib > > Also, in case it matters: > > I have a Dell Dimension XPS R450. > The video card is STB nVIDIA TNT 16MB. > WheelMouse2 (PS/2). > > > Thanks > > > Fabio > > > >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > SS> Fabio > SS> I will get back to you tomorrow. I can play with it > only at home. Right > SS> now I m at work. > SS> Thanks for info. > > SS> Suhaib > From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Tue Jun 5 10:04:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:04:00 -0000 Subject: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 References: <952FAEB97E0AD111BB7000805F0D84F60840F683@eesusciexs3.eesus.jnj.com> Message-ID: <200106051704.f55H4GP96844@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Sorry, that is a typo... that should be 1280x1024x32, not 1280x1024x3 Brian > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD9.A1ACB3B0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > not by 3 but either 16, 24, or 32 (number of bits) I suspect it should read > 32 if your have your Windows Screen configured for it. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:43 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > Subject: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 > > > > > > Hello, > > I am running XF86 4.1.0 with DirectX 8.0 installed. When I > > attempt to run with > > -fullscreen -screen 0 1280x1024x3 , The Server will not > > start. Full screen > > mode will work in 1024x768, but the higher res does not work. > > Has anyone seen > > this? I get the following error : > > > > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL() - Could not set full screen display mode > > > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD9.A1ACB3B0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > 5.5.2654.19"> > RE: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 > > > >

not by 3 but either 16, 24, or 32 (number of bits) I = > suspect it should read 32 if your have your Windows Screen configured = > for it.

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> -----Original Message----- >
> From: Brian Michael Genisio [ HREF=3D" mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu" ;> mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu = > ] >
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:43 AM >
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> Subject: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 >
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> Hello, >
> I am running XF86 4.1.0 with DirectX 8.0 = > installed.  When I >
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> start.  Full screen >
> mode will work in 1024x768, but the higher res = > does not work. >
>  Has anyone seen >
> this?  I get the following error : >
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> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL() - Could not set full = > screen display mode >
> >
> Any ideas? >
> Thanks, >
> Brian >
> >
> >
> -- >
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>       = > \\|//   Brian Genisio >
>       (o = > o)        = > genisiob@pilot.msu.edu >
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> > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD9.A1ACB3B0-- > -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 11:10:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:10:00 -0000 Subject: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C9B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Do you have by chance clients and dlls from 4.0.3 mixed with 4.1.0? When I compiled 4.1.0, and testing, I had access_violation and core dumps if dlls from and clients from previous release were mixed. Technically it should not happen. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl Philipp [ mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:40 AM > To: [List] Cygwin/XFree86 > Cc: Harold Hunt > Subject: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions > > > Hi, > > today I've used XFree 4.1.0 the first time, I should better > say I've tried > it. > > I installed it on a WinNT-PC with a clean cygwin installation. > > I launched the commands > > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > SET PATH=.;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% > > XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -query -from > > Okay, the screen was put up for a remote CDE session. I could login. > But after some objects, especially dterms, > appeared, XWin crashed with following messages: > > 0 [main] XWin 262 handle_exceptions: Exception: > STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 640 [main] XWin 262 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to > XWin.exe.stackdump > > Damned! I get the same error message when I don't use XDMCP > launching the > original > 'startwin.bat', although XWin doesn't crash. > > Here an extract of the file 'twm.exe.stackdump': > > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610292FC > eax=0020001E ebx=00000000 ecx=61095338 edx=00000002 esi=0020001E > edi=0A052430 > ebp=0246FB64 esp=0246FB40 program=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\twm.exe > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003B gs=0000 ss=0023 > Stack trace: > Frame Function Args > 0246FB64 610292FC (0020001E, 0A0525A0, 0246FC1C, 00012017) > ... > End of stack trace > > Thanks for your help. > > Karl > > --- > Karl Philipp > > Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 > Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 > eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de > > Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI > Gutenbergstr. 10 > 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany > WWW : http://www.danet.de > From mvinman@pacbell.net Tue Jun 5 12:29:00 2001 From: mvinman@pacbell.net (Michael Inman) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 12:29:00 -0000 Subject: out of environment space Message-ID: <3B1D318B.21D7DF08@pacbell.net> I have been trying to use cygwin-xfree86 on my Windows 98 machine. I use startwxin.bat by opening it in Windows, as directed in the FAQ, but I get the message "out of environment space" twice in the console window. Presumably, this refers to the two "set" commands at the beginning of the .bat file. Also, as the .bat file continues to execute, there's a message that "/B" is an invalid switch for the "start" command. I checked my Windows 98 reference and there is no "/B" switch mentioned for the "start" command. I'd appreciate any ideas or suggestions about either or both of these problems. Thanks. Michael Inman mvinman@pacbell.net From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 12:35:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 12:35:00 -0000 Subject: out of environment space Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C9D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Which version of Cygwin are you using? The out of env issue was fixed in Cygwin long time ago? If you are still getting it with Cygwin 1.3.2, add the following to your config.sys and reboot shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p If you a very old version of Cygwin, you must upgrade. /B is not supported under Windows 9x/ME. It is supported only undet NT/2000 complain to Microsoft for making DOS shells options incompatible among different windows platforms Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Inman [ mailto:mvinman@pacbell.net ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 3:23 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: out of environment space > > > I have been trying to use cygwin-xfree86 on my Windows 98 machine. I > use startwxin.bat by opening it in Windows, as directed in > the FAQ, but > I get the message "out of environment space" twice in the console > window. Presumably, this refers to the two "set" commands at the > beginning of the .bat file. > > Also, as the .bat file continues to execute, there's a > message that "/B" > is an invalid switch for the "start" command. I checked my Windows 98 > reference and there is no "/B" switch mentioned for the > "start" command. > > I'd appreciate any ideas or suggestions about either or both of these > problems. > > Thanks. > > Michael Inman > mvinman@pacbell.net > From mvinman@pacbell.net Tue Jun 5 13:37:00 2001 From: mvinman@pacbell.net (Michael Inman) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:37:00 -0000 Subject: out of environment space Message-ID: <3B1D419E.EEFC88B9@pacbell.net> In reply to Suhaib Siddiqi's message (below): I'm using 1.3.1 -- I haven't had a chance to install 1.3.2 yet. Anyway, your reply brings up a question that had been puzzling me. You mention cygwin in your reply, but according to the FAQ, one runs startxwin.bat from the "Windows Explorer", i.e., not under cygwin, so it wouldn't matter if I had any version of cygwin on my system, which I never understood. So, maybe I should be running it from cygwin? Can I run .bat files under cygwin? Sorry I'm so confused. Regards, Michael > To: "'cygwin-xfree at sources dot redhat dot com'" > Subject: RE: out of environment space > From: Suhaib Siddiqi > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:34:59 -0400 > > > > Which version of Cygwin are you using? The out of env issue was fixed in > Cygwin long time ago? > If you are still getting it with Cygwin 1.3.2, add the following to your > config.sys and reboot > shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p > > If you a very old version of Cygwin, you must upgrade. > > /B is not supported under Windows 9x/ME. It is supported only undet NT/2000 > complain to Microsoft for making DOS shells options incompatible among > different > windows platforms > > Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 13:41:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:41:00 -0000 Subject: out of environment space Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C9E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > In reply to Suhaib Siddiqi's message (below): > > I'm using 1.3.1 -- I haven't had a chance to install 1.3.2 yet. > > Anyway, your reply brings up a question that had been > puzzling me. You > mention cygwin in your reply, but according to the FAQ, one runs > startxwin.bat from the "Windows Explorer", i.e., not under > cygwin, so it > wouldn't matter if I had any version of cygwin on my system, which I > never understood. > > So, maybe I should be running it from cygwin? Can I run .bat files > under cygwin? > Cygwin/XFree86 is compiled using Cygwin, therefore it uses Cygwin1.dll.... therefore it matters which version of cygwin are you using :-) Suhaib > Sorry I'm so confused. > > Regards, > > Michael > > > To: "'cygwin-xfree at sources dot redhat dot com'" > > > Subject: RE: out of environment space > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:34:59 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > Which version of Cygwin are you using? The out of env > issue was fixed in > > Cygwin long time ago? > > If you are still getting it with Cygwin 1.3.2, add the > following to your > > config.sys and reboot > > shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p > > > > If you a very old version of Cygwin, you must upgrade. > > > > /B is not supported under Windows 9x/ME. It is supported > only undet NT/2000 > > complain to Microsoft for making DOS shells options > incompatible among > > different > > windows platforms > > > > Suhaib > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 14:42:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: out of environment space Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C9F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > In reply to Suhaib Siddiqi's message (below): > > > > I'm using 1.3.1 -- I haven't had a chance to install 1.3.2 yet. > > > > Anyway, your reply brings up a question that had been > > puzzling me. You > > mention cygwin in your reply, but according to the FAQ, one runs > > startxwin.bat from the "Windows Explorer", i.e., not under > > cygwin, so it > > wouldn't matter if I had any version of cygwin on my system, which I > > never understood. > > > > So, maybe I should be running it from cygwin? Can I run .bat files > > under cygwin? > > phew busy day at work... sorry I did not answer your all the questions. You cannot run startxwin.bat from a bash shell, but you can use startx script. startxwin.bat is for DOS shell. You can also write you own script if you want for a bash shell.... an example of a good script is from Fabio Somenzi http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01991.html Suhaib > > Cygwin/XFree86 is compiled using Cygwin, therefore it uses > Cygwin1.dll.... > therefore it matters which version of cygwin are you using :-) > > > Suhaib > > > Sorry I'm so confused. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael > > > > > To: "'cygwin-xfree at sources dot redhat dot com'" > > > > > Subject: RE: out of environment space > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:34:59 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which version of Cygwin are you using? The out of env > > issue was fixed in > > > Cygwin long time ago? > > > If you are still getting it with Cygwin 1.3.2, add the > > following to your > > > config.sys and reboot > > > shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p > > > > > > If you a very old version of Cygwin, you must upgrade. > > > > > > /B is not supported under Windows 9x/ME. It is supported > > only undet NT/2000 > > > complain to Microsoft for making DOS shells options > > incompatible among > > > different > > > windows platforms > > > > > > Suhaib > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 17:18:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:18:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CA3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Is this problem specific to LyX or do you see with other clients too? Sorry if you have already answered it. Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Idar Tollefsen [ mailto:Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:02 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: RE: Color problems > > > Here they are. I think you find them > > under extra/etc/X11/xdm ... > > Thanks for the files. > > But still no go. The messages remain > the same. I'm repeating my original mail > here, just to clarify the situation once more: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > When starting X, I get a few of the > following messages: > > Warning: Color name "[color name]" is > not defined > > Where color name is black, yellow and red. > > I'm also trying to run LyX, the Win32 version, > on this X server. It fires up just fine, but the > colors are all screwed up, and in the underlying > xterm, there's a lot of messages like > > In LoadXPM [pixmap.c 409] error reading > [path and file name of XPM file] (Can't get color) > > and > > X can't find color "[color name]". Set to "black"! > > What can I do about this? Should I have some > environment variable point to some sort of > RGB database? > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > After this posting, I have confirmed that rgb.txt > is present, and that "showrgb" yields the correct > result (that is to say, it doesn't give me any error > messages). > > I now also have .Xdefaults and .Xresources > in my $HOME dir. > > This is really starting to bug me. I can't believe > I'm the only one who has this problem...? > > > > - IT From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 17:20:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:20:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree 4.1.0 doesn't Display Multibyte Character Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CA4@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: choiks@nuri.net [ mailto:choiks@nuri.net ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:45 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Cygwin XFree 4.1.0 doesn't Display Multibyte Character > > Cygwin XFree 4.0.3 can display multibyte character perfectly. > > but I can't display multibyte character in Cygwin XFree 4.1.0. > > I use WindowMaker and I recompiled Windowmaker in cygwin XFree 4.1.0. > > Is cygwin xfree 4.1.0 not support for multibyte character? Should be almost same as 4.0.3. Not has changed since then. Suhaib > > please help me!! From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 17:39:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:39:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree 4.1.0 doesn't Display Multibyte Character Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CA6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> By the way which fonts are you using and which ones have you installed? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: choiks@nuri.net [ mailto:choiks@nuri.net ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:45 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Cygwin XFree 4.1.0 doesn't Display Multibyte Character > > Cygwin XFree 4.0.3 can display multibyte character perfectly. > > but I can't display multibyte character in Cygwin XFree 4.1.0. > > I use WindowMaker and I recompiled Windowmaker in cygwin XFree 4.1.0. > > Is cygwin xfree 4.1.0 not support for multibyte character? From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 17:53:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:53:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree 4.1.0 doesn't Display Multibyte Character Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CA7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Here is something for users who are facing Multibyte Character Display issues. This will go in future FAQ. For Multbyte Display main concern is the availability of ISO 10646 fonts. Although it shouldn't be a problem on systems where truetype font renderers (e.g. XFree86 ver4.x server/xfs (x font server)) are running, this is not always the case. The traditional approach on Xwindow system, which is portable, is to combine several font files to make a single logical font. XFontSet is a facility offered by Xlib forsuch purpose. The essential idea is that a user requests a XLFD >>WITHOUT<< a font norm and Xlib appends font norms according to the locale: For example, if I aliase Japanese gothic(which is in fact a sans serif) to helvetica and requests oc = XCreateOC(om, XNBaseFontName, "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*", NULL); under LC_CTYPE=ja_JP, then -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-jisx0201.1976-0 -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-jisx0208.1983-0 -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-jisx0212.1990-0 will be loaded and I can access the XFontStructs via XFontsOfFontSet(oc, &FS, &charlist); and XmbDrawString(dpy, win, oc, gc, x, y, mb_string, num_bytes); will draw a multibyte string automatically switching the real fonts used. Suhaib From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Tue Jun 5 17:53:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:53:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C93@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <15132.31868.87939.19882@joplin.Colorado.EDU> Message-ID: <15133.32482.596040.408486@joplin.Colorado.EDU> Here is some iteresting info. I switched to a different keyboard, and the problem went away. Unclear whether I have a faulty keyboard, or whether my keyboard generates events that are misrepresented by xfree. In an off-the-list exchange with Suhaib, I noticed that the spurious backticks were reported by xev as pairs of KeyPress and KeyRelease events occurring at exactly the same time. These events do not seem to bother any other application. Most applications depend on Windows for their event processing, but some, like NT-emacs, do intercept the keyboard and mouse events, if I'm not mistaken. Also, the rather terse user's guide says that my keyboard has "advanced power management features." From what I understand of keyboards, that would require the BIOS to send some commands to the keyboard, which is very unlikely to contain its own timer. The keyboard, in turn, may send back an ack. I have no evidence that this is indeed what's going on. Someone with more experience of these issue may correct me. I'm just trying to argue that to my untutored eye it's not clear whether it's looking at a broken keyboard, lack of proper event masking, lack of software keyboard debouncing (less likely), or something else. For the record, the "noisy" keyboard is a Dell natural keyboard from 1998. The one I swapped for it is a MS natural keyboard, unknown vintage, but probably a bit older. Fabio >>>>> "FS" == Fabio Somenzi writes: FS> Suhaib, FS> Thanks for looking into this problem. I've spent some more time to FS> try to figure it out, but to no avail. I thought I may be be on to FS> something when I realized that IRQ 11 is shared by the video and FS> ethernet drivers, but this is true also of my laptop, when I use wired FS> ethernet. FS> Fabio >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: SS> Fabio, SS> I cannot reproduce it. On my systems (Windows 2000, and ME) I do not see SS> it. I left the server on for almost an hour and watched ;-) SS> I do not have Windows 98SE, but on Windows ME I also do not see backtick? SS> Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 5 18:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:02:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CA8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Here is some iteresting info. > > I switched to a different keyboard, and the problem went away. > Unclear whether I have a faulty keyboard, or whether my keyboard > generates events that are misrepresented by xfree. > > In an off-the-list exchange with Suhaib, I noticed that the spurious > backticks were reported by xev as pairs of KeyPress and KeyRelease > events occurring at exactly the same time. > > These events do not seem to bother any other application. Most > applications depend on Windows for their event processing, but some, > like NT-emacs, do intercept the keyboard and mouse events, if I'm not > mistaken. > > Also, the rather terse user's guide says that my keyboard has > "advanced power management features." From what I understand of > keyboards, that would require the BIOS to send some commands to the > keyboard, which is very unlikely to contain its own timer. The > keyboard, in turn, may send back an ack. > > I have no evidence that this is indeed what's going on. Someone with > more experience of these issue may correct me. I'm just trying to > argue that to my untutored eye it's not clear whether it's looking at > a broken keyboard, lack of proper event masking, lack of software > keyboard debouncing (less likely), or something else. > > For the record, the "noisy" keyboard is a Dell natural keyboard from > 1998. The one I swapped for it is a MS natural keyboard, unknown > vintage, but probably a bit older. Fabio I was about to suggest buy a new keyboard, but I decided to keep my mouth shut ;-) Last year when I was doing beta testing fro Red Hat for RH Linux 7.0, one of the Dell keyboard drove me nut. It was also Dell Quietkey keyboard on Dell PowerEdge Server. It was a strange behavior. After starting Xserver the mouse and keyboard was doing bizzare things, but if I diconnected keyboard, after starting x server, then connected again, it started behaving..... well I guess Dell made of the Quietkey keyboards so quiet that they do some strange things QUIETLY ;-) Thanks for info. Suhaib > > > Fabio > > > >>>>> "FS" == Fabio Somenzi writes: > > FS> Suhaib, > FS> Thanks for looking into this problem. I've spent some more time to > FS> try to figure it out, but to no avail. I thought I may be be on to > FS> something when I realized that IRQ 11 is shared by the video and > FS> ethernet drivers, but this is true also of my laptop, when I use > wired > FS> ethernet. > > > FS> Fabio > > > >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > SS> Fabio, > SS> I cannot reproduce it. On my systems (Windows 2000, and ME) I do not > see > SS> it. I left the server on for almost an hour and watched ;-) > SS> I do not have Windows 98SE, but on Windows ME I also do not see > backtick? > > SS> Suhaib From Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no Tue Jun 5 23:37:00 2001 From: Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no (Idar Tollefsen) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:37:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems Message-ID: > Is this problem specific to LyX or do you see with other clients too? > Sorry if you have already answered it. It is not specific to LyX. LyX is however my biggest concern because it was is the reason I installed XFree86 in the first place and also because the area for writing the document itself within LyX appears black, with black text, and any attempt to change this just renders all of LyX in black. As long as this situation persists, I can't produce the written documentation that I'm supposed to, and which is now long overdue. What is specific to LyX is the message: In LoadXPM [pixmap.c 409] error reading [path and file name of XPM file] (Can't get color) which I haven't seen elsewhere, yet. I suppose, however, that this is just because I haven't ran that many other applications yet and that it is a general problem related to the same color problem. I mean... it quite clearly spells out that it can't find the colors it needs. I have this fix idea that this is a configuration problem. The only place I have seen any configuration related to rgb.txt is in XF86Config where RgbPath is set, and set correctly too I might add. Are there any other configuration files or envrionment variables that should point to this file? - IT From Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no Wed Jun 6 02:56:00 2001 From: Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no (Idar Tollefsen) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 02:56:00 -0000 Subject: Color problems - solved Message-ID: Hello, For a long time now, I have been bugging this list with my color problems. Having had quite enough of these problems, I scratched everything, Cygwin, XFree86 and Lyx, and then reinstalled them. This fixed the problem. It no longer reports any problems with colors. A new problem has arisen, however. The cursor has started to either freeze at random or not to appear within the XFree86 window area. I'll check this out some more and come back if I require assistance. Thanks to all who gave me suggestions and tips. - IT From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 6 03:21:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:21:00 -0000 Subject: -fullscreen on 1280x1024 References: Message-ID: <200106061021.f56ALIk36596@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Hey Harold, Just yesterday, I downloaded your test 26. It did NOT crash in 1280x1024 full screen. Thank you!!! Brian > > Brian, > > I just released Test27. I added a debug message that will tell me the error > being reported by IDirectDraw_SetDisplayMode (). If you could grab Test27 > and report the error value to me (and CC to the Cygwin/XFree86 list) I'd > appreciate it. > > Test27 is available at: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ > > Thanks, > > Harold > > -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 6 05:09:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path Message-ID: <200106061209.f56C9be28760@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> Hey all, I am trying to strip down the X server to only everything I need to run the X server and a window manager from a dos prompt. From there, I will have clients on other machines connect to me, so I do not need full cygwin. What I have done so far, is copy the Cygwin DLLs, all the X DLLs needed, the window manager (fvwm2), the rgb.txt file and the fonts directories. The problem I am having is with the default font path. At the same level as Xwin, I have a fonts directory that has 100dpi, misc, pex, etc. So, on the command line in the batch file, I use the following : Xwin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp fonts\misc,fonts\pex My problem is that the font paths do not work. I have tried every combination of relitave and absolute file paths with / and \ with no avail. I get the error : Could not init font path element fonts\misc, removing from list! Could not init font path element fonts\pex, removing from list! Following is my full .bat file. Keep in mind, the machine does not have cygwin... only what is necessary to run the X server : SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=.;%PATH% mkdir \tmp start /m fvwm2 XWin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp fonts\misc,fonts\pex Thanks, Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 05:28:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:28:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAA@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Brain, You must use forward slashes and the fullpath for example Xwin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb -fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/:/usr/X11R6/l ib/X11/fonts/Type1/:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:/usr/X11R6 /lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ Xwin is a cygwin application and understands UNIX stayles paths. I hope this help Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:10 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: setting default font path > > > Hey all, > > I am trying to strip down the X server to only everything I > need to run the X > server and a window manager from a dos prompt. From there, I > will have clients > on other machines connect to me, so I do not need full cygwin. > > What I have done so far, is copy the Cygwin DLLs, all the X > DLLs needed, the > window manager (fvwm2), the rgb.txt file and the fonts directories. > > The problem I am having is with the default font path. At > the same level as > Xwin, I have a fonts directory that has 100dpi, misc, pex, > etc. So, on the > command line in the batch file, I use the following : > > Xwin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp > fonts\misc,fonts\pex > > My problem is that the font paths do not work. I have tried > every combination > of relitave and absolute file paths with / and \ with no > avail. I get the > error : > > Could not init font path element fonts\misc, removing from list! > Could not init font path element fonts\pex, removing from list! > > Following is my full .bat file. Keep in mind, the machine > does not have > cygwin... only what is necessary to run the X server : > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=.;%PATH% > mkdir \tmp > > start /m fvwm2 > XWin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp > fonts\misc,fonts\pex > > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From karl.philipp@danet.de Wed Jun 6 05:30:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:30:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C9B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Hi, KPH> Do you have by chance clients and dlls from 4.0.3 mixed with 4.1.0? Not true. KPH> It sounds like you might have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll on your system. Not true. There is only one file 'cygwin1.dll' on my system. Okay, I've reinstalled Cygwin and XFree 4.1.0. The result is again: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0046B5BA eax=102C2AA9 ebx=026FF874 ecx=7FFFFFEE edx=003B0033 esi=026FF9AC edi=026FFA00 ebp=026FF8C4 esp=026FF81C program=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003B gs=0000 ss=0023 Stack trace: Frame Function Args 026FF8C4 0046B5BA (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000000) 026FFAD4 0046C2FB (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000000) 026FFC34 0046E350 (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000003) 026FFC74 0044A2FF (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000008) 026FFCD4 0063BF46 (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000008) 026FFD24 00409854 (0A342D48, 0A3408F0, 026FFD64, 00424D8B) 026FFD64 00424D9B (0A342D48, 00000008, 026FFE14, 004071F6) 026FFE14 00407171 (00000004, 610903E8, 00000000, 6D5E0000) 026FFE44 004018E5 (0000000E, 0A010B10, 0A010008, 00000000) 026FFF10 61003AEA (00000000, F9A70030, 77F863D3, 77F863DB) 026FFF40 61003CBD (004013E4, F9A70030, 000FFFFF, 7FFDD000) 026FFF60 61003CFC (00000000, 00000000, 808204D3, 808FBE00) 026FFF90 0068FB6B (004013E4, 00000000, 00000246, 8011748B) 026FFFC0 0040103D (F9A70030, 0012FBBC, 7FFDF000, 7FFDF000) 026FFFF0 77F1B9EA (00401000, 00000000, 000000B0, 00000100) End of stack trace Thanks for your help! Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 05:34:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:34:00 -0000 Subject: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAB@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > KPH> Do you have by chance clients and dlls from 4.0.3 mixed > with 4.1.0? > > Not true. > > KPH> It sounds like you might have multiple copies of > cygwin1.dll on your > system. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That was not my question? instead of startxwin.bat, try startx script from a cygwin bash shell. cd /usr/X11R6/bin startx Suhaib > Not true. > There is only one file 'cygwin1.dll' on my system. > > Okay, I've reinstalled Cygwin and XFree 4.1.0. > The result is again: > > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0046B5BA > eax=102C2AA9 ebx=026FF874 ecx=7FFFFFEE edx=003B0033 esi=026FF9AC > edi=026FFA00 > ebp=026FF8C4 esp=026FF81C program=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003B gs=0000 ss=0023 > Stack trace: > Frame Function Args > 026FF8C4 0046B5BA (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000000) > 026FFAD4 0046C2FB (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000000) > 026FFC34 0046E350 (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000003) > 026FFC74 0044A2FF (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000008) > 026FFCD4 0063BF46 (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000008) > 026FFD24 00409854 (0A342D48, 0A3408F0, 026FFD64, 00424D8B) > 026FFD64 00424D9B (0A342D48, 00000008, 026FFE14, 004071F6) > 026FFE14 00407171 (00000004, 610903E8, 00000000, 6D5E0000) > 026FFE44 004018E5 (0000000E, 0A010B10, 0A010008, 00000000) > 026FFF10 61003AEA (00000000, F9A70030, 77F863D3, 77F863DB) > 026FFF40 61003CBD (004013E4, F9A70030, 000FFFFF, 7FFDD000) > 026FFF60 61003CFC (00000000, 00000000, 808204D3, 808FBE00) > 026FFF90 0068FB6B (004013E4, 00000000, 00000246, 8011748B) > 026FFFC0 0040103D (F9A70030, 0012FBBC, 7FFDF000, 7FFDF000) > 026FFFF0 77F1B9EA (00401000, 00000000, 000000B0, 00000100) > End of stack trace > > Thanks for your help! > > Karl > > --- > Karl Philipp > > Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 > Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 > eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de > > Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI > Gutenbergstr. 10 > 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany > WWW : http://www.danet.de > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 05:37:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:37:00 -0000 Subject: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> By the way did you put a libz.dll from Cygwin/XFree86 ftp server in /usr/X11R6/bin? Sometimes if a dll is not found application crashes Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl Philipp [ mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:29 AM > To: Harold Hunt; Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: [List] Cygwin/XFree86 > Subject: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions > > > Hi, > > KPH> Do you have by chance clients and dlls from 4.0.3 mixed > with 4.1.0? > > Not true. > > KPH> It sounds like you might have multiple copies of > cygwin1.dll on your > system. > > Not true. > There is only one file 'cygwin1.dll' on my system. > > Okay, I've reinstalled Cygwin and XFree 4.1.0. > The result is again: > > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0046B5BA > eax=102C2AA9 ebx=026FF874 ecx=7FFFFFEE edx=003B0033 esi=026FF9AC > edi=026FFA00 > ebp=026FF8C4 esp=026FF81C program=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003B gs=0000 ss=0023 > Stack trace: > Frame Function Args > 026FF8C4 0046B5BA (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000000) > 026FFAD4 0046C2FB (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000000) > 026FFC34 0046E350 (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000003) > 026FFC74 0044A2FF (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000008) > 026FFCD4 0063BF46 (0A34C3D8, 0A3490C0, 00000000, 00000008) > 026FFD24 00409854 (0A342D48, 0A3408F0, 026FFD64, 00424D8B) > 026FFD64 00424D9B (0A342D48, 00000008, 026FFE14, 004071F6) > 026FFE14 00407171 (00000004, 610903E8, 00000000, 6D5E0000) > 026FFE44 004018E5 (0000000E, 0A010B10, 0A010008, 00000000) > 026FFF10 61003AEA (00000000, F9A70030, 77F863D3, 77F863DB) > 026FFF40 61003CBD (004013E4, F9A70030, 000FFFFF, 7FFDD000) > 026FFF60 61003CFC (00000000, 00000000, 808204D3, 808FBE00) > 026FFF90 0068FB6B (004013E4, 00000000, 00000246, 8011748B) > 026FFFC0 0040103D (F9A70030, 0012FBBC, 7FFDF000, 7FFDF000) > 026FFFF0 77F1B9EA (00401000, 00000000, 000000B0, 00000100) > End of stack trace > > Thanks for your help! > > Karl > > --- > Karl Philipp > > Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 > Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 > eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de > > Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI > Gutenbergstr. 10 > 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany > WWW : http://www.danet.de > From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 6 05:38:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:38:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAA@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <200106061237.f56Cbs846172@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Ok, I have tried that also. (That was my first try) But, there is no /usr/X11R6 directory. The fonts are in the same directory as the X server application. So, I call : XWin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp fonts/misc and get the error : _FontTransOpen: Unable to Parse address fonts/misc Could not init font path element fonts/misc, removing from list! The same is true if I use a path of ./fonts/misc and /xserver/fonts/misc . However, If I do not set a font path, and make a directory on the machine called /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, and put the fonts there, The X server works as planned!!! Worst case scenario, I can do this, but I would like to try to keep it confined to a single directory struct. Thanks! Brian > > > Brain, > > You must use forward slashes and the fullpath for example > > Xwin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb -fp > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/:/usr/X11R6/l > ib/X11/fonts/Type1/:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:/usr/X11R6 > /lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ > > > Xwin is a cygwin application and understands UNIX stayles paths. > > I hope this help > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:10 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > Subject: setting default font path > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > I am trying to strip down the X server to only everything I > > need to run the X > > server and a window manager from a dos prompt. From there, I > > will have clients > > on other machines connect to me, so I do not need full cygwin. > > > > What I have done so far, is copy the Cygwin DLLs, all the X > > DLLs needed, the > > window manager (fvwm2), the rgb.txt file and the fonts directories. > > > > The problem I am having is with the default font path. At > > the same level as > > Xwin, I have a fonts directory that has 100dpi, misc, pex, > > etc. So, on the > > command line in the batch file, I use the following : > > > > Xwin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp > > fonts\misc,fonts\pex > > > > My problem is that the font paths do not work. I have tried > > every combination > > of relitave and absolute file paths with / and \ with no > > avail. I get the > > error : > > > > Could not init font path element fonts\misc, removing from list! > > Could not init font path element fonts\pex, removing from list! > > > > Following is my full .bat file. Keep in mind, the machine > > does not have > > cygwin... only what is necessary to run the X server : > > > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > SET PATH=.;%PATH% > > mkdir \tmp > > > > start /m fvwm2 > > XWin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp > > fonts\misc,fonts\pex > > > > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 05:41:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:41:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAD@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> the path /usr/X11R6 is hardcoded in cygwin.cf, during compilation. You need /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, unless you compile your own binaries and change the XROOT to whatever you like. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:38 AM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Cc: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re: setting default font path > > > Ok, I have tried that also. (That was my first try) But, there is no > /usr/X11R6 directory. The fonts are in the same directory as > the X server > application. So, I call : > > XWin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp > fonts/misc > > and get the error : > > _FontTransOpen: Unable to Parse address fonts/misc > Could not init font path element fonts/misc, removing from list! > > The same is true if I use a path of ./fonts/misc and > /xserver/fonts/misc . > > However, If I do not set a font path, and make a directory on > the machine > called /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, and put the fonts there, The > X server works as > planned!!! Worst case scenario, I can do this, but I would > like to try to keep > it confined to a single directory struct. > > Thanks! > Brian > > > > > > > > Brain, > > > > You must use forward slashes and the fullpath for example > > > > Xwin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb -fp > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo > /:/usr/X11R6/l > > ib/X11/fonts/Type1/:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:/usr/X11R6 > > /lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ > > > > > > Xwin is a cygwin application and understands UNIX stayles paths. > > > > I hope this help > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:10 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > Subject: setting default font path > > > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > I am trying to strip down the X server to only everything I > > > need to run the X > > > server and a window manager from a dos prompt. From there, I > > > will have clients > > > on other machines connect to me, so I do not need full cygwin. > > > > > > What I have done so far, is copy the Cygwin DLLs, all the X > > > DLLs needed, the > > > window manager (fvwm2), the rgb.txt file and the fonts > directories. > > > > > > The problem I am having is with the default font path. At > > > the same level as > > > Xwin, I have a fonts directory that has 100dpi, misc, pex, > > > etc. So, on the > > > command line in the batch file, I use the following : > > > > > > Xwin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate > -co rgb -fp > > > fonts\misc,fonts\pex > > > > > > My problem is that the font paths do not work. I have tried > > > every combination > > > of relitave and absolute file paths with / and \ with no > > > avail. I get the > > > error : > > > > > > Could not init font path element fonts\misc, removing from list! > > > Could not init font path element fonts\pex, removing from list! > > > > > > Following is my full .bat file. Keep in mind, the machine > > > does not have > > > cygwin... only what is necessary to run the X server : > > > > > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > SET PATH=.;%PATH% > > > mkdir \tmp > > > > > > start /m fvwm2 > > > XWin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate > -co rgb -fp > > > fonts\misc,fonts\pex > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 6 05:50:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:50:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path References: <200106061237.f56Cbs846172@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Brian Michael Genisio wrote: > Ok, I have tried that also. (That was my first try) But, there is no > /usr/X11R6 directory. The fonts are in the same directory as the X server > application. So, I call : > > XWin -screen 0 800x600 -depth 32 -engine 4 -ac -terminate -co rgb -fp > fonts/misc > > and get the error : > > _FontTransOpen: Unable to Parse address fonts/misc > Could not init font path element fonts/misc, removing from list! i'm sure XWin checks if the path starts with a /. To address a fontserver you would tpc/server:7100. Please try preceeding all the directories with either the full path or alternatively with $PWD/, which expands to the full path. > > The same is true if I use a path of ./fonts/misc and /xserver/fonts/misc . > > However, If I do not set a font path, and make a directory on the machine > called /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, and put the fonts there, The X server works as > planned!!! Worst case scenario, I can do this, but I would like to try to keep > it confined to a single directory struct. > could you try setting just a single path (-fp /xserver/fonts/misc) and add the other paths later with xset. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From karl.philipp@danet.de Wed Jun 6 05:51:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:51:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: KPH> By the way did you put a libz.dll from Cygwin/XFree86 ftp server in KPH> /usr/X11R6/bin? Si! (means 'yes') libz.dll with size 49.664 bytes. KPH> Sometimes if a dll is not found application crashes Some minutes ago I've tried 1024x768x32. Now XWin doesn't crash but there is no response after the desktop of the remote server has been put up. Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 6 06:01:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:01:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Karl Philipp wrote: > > Some minutes ago I've tried 1024x768x32. > Now XWin doesn't crash but there is no response after the desktop of the > remote server has been put up. > What desktop shows up. The gray pattern or a destop from a remote machine via xdmcp. What does no response mean? Have you started a window manager and /or clients? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 6 06:10:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:10:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path References: Message-ID: <200106061310.f56DA8T40744@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> > > > > could you try setting just a single path (-fp /xserver/fonts/misc) and add the other paths later with xset. > > bye > ago > > -- I thought of this, but /xserver/fonts/misc does not work either. (I would think that it should. this is the full path from the disk : D:\ ) The idea for using $PWD would work if we were in the bash shell, but this is in a DOS .bat file :( Maybe I should copy bash.exe over, and send it my script... worth a shot. Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 06:17:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:17:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAE@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> One of the issue you might be facing... Cygwin mount points. if you put everything under drive D:\ you may consider mounting it as / using mount.exe which comes with Cygwin. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:10 AM > To: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > Cc: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re: setting default font path > > > > > > > > > could you try setting just a single path (-fp > /xserver/fonts/misc) and add the > other paths later with xset. > > > > bye > > ago > > > > -- > > I thought of this, but /xserver/fonts/misc does not work > either. (I would > think that it should. this is the full path from the disk : > D:\ ) The idea > for using $PWD would work if we were in the bash shell, but > this is in a DOS > .bat file :( Maybe I should copy bash.exe over, and send it > my script... worth > a shot. > > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From karl.philipp@danet.de Wed Jun 6 06:23:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:23:00 -0000 Subject: AW: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: Message-ID: KPH> What desktop shows up. The gray pattern or a destop from a KPH> remote machine via xdmcp. A desktop from a remote machine: XWin shows a CDE Session via xdmcp. KPH> What does no response mean? Have you started a window manager KPH> and /or clients? Okay, perhaps 'no response' isn't a exact description what I want say. After the CDE session was shown by XWin - the mouse symbol in the Xwin window is frozen - I don't see all objects on the CDE desktop, which should appear there, for instance a icon of a html doc, ... I see only the panel of the CDE session - XWin uses more than 98% of the cpu - I can only kill XWin using the task manager of WinNT Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 6 06:46:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:46:00 -0000 Subject: AW: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Karl Philipp wrote: > > KPH> What desktop shows up. The gray pattern or a destop from a > KPH> remote machine via xdmcp. > > A desktop from a remote machine: XWin shows a CDE Session via xdmcp. > > KPH> What does no response mean? Have you started a window manager > KPH> and /or clients? > > Okay, perhaps 'no response' isn't a exact description what I want say. > > After the CDE session was shown by XWin > > - the mouse symbol in the Xwin window is frozen > - I don't see all objects on the CDE desktop, which should appear there, > for instance a icon of a html doc, ... > I see only the panel of the CDE session > - XWin uses more than 98% of the cpu > - I can only kill XWin using the task manager of WinNT > Maybe XWin is under heavy load because of some network activities? I noticed the for instance xmodmap takes very long until the complete setting is tranfered. Bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From karl.philipp@danet.de Wed Jun 6 07:49:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CAB@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: KPH> instead of startxwin.bat, try startx script from a cygwin bash shell. KPH> KPH> cd /usr/X11R6/bin KPH> startx Okay, after I could modify the script 'startx' for using xdmcp the launching of this script put up a successfull 640x480-sized remote CDE session. Therefore I tried XWin -screen 0 640x480x32 -query -from What shall I say: It works! Okay A 640x480-sized remote CDE session is a little bit small on a 1280x1024 sized windows desktop. Then I tried XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -query -from It works again. Once again I tried XWin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -query -from I hoped 'startx' acted as God and healed my cygwin/xfree86-system. But I was disappointed. After launching of the remote CDE session the XWin window hangs again. Summary: The problem I described in http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02007.html the first time depends from the screen resolution of the Xwin window. XWin.exe works well with screen resolution 640x480 and 800x600. XWin.exe hangs using screen resolution 1024x768. XWin.exe crashes using screen resolution 1280x1024. And now? I don't like to use a 800x600 sized remote CDE-session on a 1280x1024 sized windows desktop. Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 6 07:50:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:50:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path References: Message-ID: <200106061450.f56EoBZ23534@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> The solution I came up with involved running a script from bash. So, my batch file now includes only the following lines : mkdir \tmp bash.exe startx_script The startx script then uses path names appropriately, and it all works. So, I packaged the files together (Xwin.exe, bash.exe fvwm.exe, fonts, dlls, etc), and copied only what I need to annother machine with Cygwin NOT installed. Viola!!!! It worked. Thanks for the pointer, Brian From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 07:54:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:54:00 -0000 Subject: setting default font path Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CB0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > The solution I came up with involved running a script from > bash. So, my batch > file now includes only the following lines : > mkdir \tmp ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I do not think you need this? once you created /tmp directory, as long as you do not delete it, you do not have to run mkdir everytime you start Xserver.... beside for a basj shell, should it not be mkdir /tmp. Suhaib > bash.exe startx_script > > The startx script then uses path names appropriately, and it > all works. So, I > packaged the files together (Xwin.exe, bash.exe fvwm.exe, > fonts, dlls, etc), > and copied only what I need to annother machine with Cygwin > NOT installed. > Viola!!!! It worked. > > Thanks for the pointer, > Brian > From landrieu@hotmail.com Wed Jun 6 09:50:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:50:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: I installed 4.1.0 on with Cygwin 1.3.2 this past weekend on two separate machines (Win98SE and Win2000SP1). I am experiencing the infamous "Can't open display" problem on both machines. I have more info on the Win2k machine but essentially I believe it is the same problem on both machines. I have also tried XFree86-4.0.3, Cygwin 1.3.2, and Win2k with the same results. I have already read the past 3 months worth of postings about this problem on this list and have found no solutions. The problem is that X clients (such as xterm) running on the localhost do not work. They give the same "Can't open display" error whether I am trying to display them on a remote X server or on the localhost Cygwin/xfree86 server. I have tried all combinations of DISPLAY settings (127.0.0.1:0.0, :0.0, my-ethernet-IP-address:0.0, :0, etc.). I can display remote X clients on my local cygwin/xfree86 (by using -ac to turn off access control restrictions). The interesting thing that I have noticed on Win2k is that the first time that I run "xterm -display :0.0" I immediately get the "Can't open display" message. The second time, it sits there for about 10 seconds trying to connect and then gives me the "Can't open display" message. When it fails this second time, I get "_XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed" in the xfree86 console window. This does not happen in my Win98SE installation. It just gets the "Can't open display" error immediately every time. I have also done the old "telnet localhost 6000" test. Both the Cygwin telnet and Microsoft's telnet connect successfully. If I then hit a bunch of keys, the connection is closed by the server. Another test I have run is to run a remote X client tunneled through an SSH connection. I use TeraTerm Pro with Robert O'Callahan's SSH extension. I log in to a remote UNIX machine through SSH with X Forwarding turned on and run any X application and the application shows up in Cygwin/xfree86 instantly. I think that all of this info points to a problem in the Cygwin/XFree86 X Clients/libraries that causes them to fail to connect. The problem is not with the X server or the network configuration at all, its with the X clients. I plan to do a few more tests with the Win98SE machine and will post any new info that I find. I want to try watching the X clients connect to a remote X server and sniff the packets. That may give me a clue as to why the connection is failing. Chris L. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 10:14:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:14:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CB3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > I think that all of this info points to a problem in the > Cygwin/XFree86 X > Clients/libraries that causes them to fail to connect. The > problem is not > with the X server or the network configuration at all, its with the X > clients. > I am sorry to say there are no problems with libraries. All the times when users reported this problem, it was ALWAYS something at their workstation, for example a screwed up tcp/ip stack or a firewall etc etc. Suhaib > I plan to do a few more tests with the Win98SE machine and > will post any new > info that I find. I want to try watching the X clients > connect to a remote > X server and sniff the packets. That may give me a clue as > to why the > connection is failing. > > Chris L. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From landrieu@hotmail.com Wed Jun 6 10:49:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:49:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: Harold, I appreciate your reply. I originally considered that it could be an interaction with VPN software because I do have VPN packages on both computers, however the problems occur whether the VPN software is active or not. As well, the problem is not with all programs making TCP/IP connections to port 6000 on the localhost. That is evidenced by the fact that the TeraTerm SSH with X Forwarding worked. X Forwarding works by having the remote SSH server set up a dummy X server on the remote machine (display 10 - :10.0) and setting the DISPLAY variable to remote-machine:10.0. The SSH server then tunnels the X traffic through the encrypted SSH socket to the SSH client. The SSH client opens a connection to the local X server (localhost:0.0). The SSH client redirects the tunneled X traffic from the SSH Socket to the connection to the local X server. Therefore, TeraTermSSH is successfully making a working X connection to localhost:0.0. TeraTermSSh in this case is technically an X client. The only programs that fail to successfully connect are the local X clients from XFree86. Also, the local X clients cannot even connect properly to a remote X server. I believe that the TCP/IP connection is being established successfully but that these local X clients are not successfully setting up the X11 protocol connection. This is because when I try to run "xterm -display remote-x-server:0.0", I can see the connection openned on the remote machine ("netstat -np" as root on my linux box). I believe the X server is then dropping the connection (like when I do the "telnet localhost 6000" test). That is why I would like to try and sniff the packets and see what communication is taking place between the X server and the X clients. I'll let you know what I find. Chris >From: "Harold Hunt" >To: >Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:24:10 -0400 > >Chris, > >Hopefully you can identify the exact conditions that cause this, as we >haven't yet had a thorough examination of this problem. > >You might want to take a look at the current information we have regarding >this problem, as answered in my draft FAQ: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#AEN290 > >A couple users have reported that removing VPN or firewall software solved >their problems. It makes sense that VPN software would cause a problem, as >VPN software usually causes connections to be redirected to a VPN tunnel; >when a request for 127.0.0.1:6000 or host-name-or-ip-address:6000 shows up >at the end of the VPN tunnel, the computer at the end of the VPN tunnel >can't satisfy the request, so the connection fails. (The VPN machine isn't >running Cygwin/XFree86, so 127.0.0.1:6000 would fail; as for >host-name-or-ip-address:6000, the VPN software may reject that because it >is >looping the VPN back onto itself.) > >It would have to be pretty braindead VPN software that causes this problem, >as 127.0.0.1 should never be redirected. I used the included VPN support >with Windows 2000, but I never had problems. Users of lesser known VPN >software seem to be the ones reporting problems :) > >Uninstalling VPN or firewalling software from a machine doesn't always fix >the problem, as the uninstall program may leave certain files and settings >in place, thus preserving the problem. > >Anyway, let me know what you come up with, > >Harold > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jimk@scitechsoft.com Wed Jun 6 10:55:00 2001 From: jimk@scitechsoft.com (jimk) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:55:00 -0000 Subject: makeflags, cross-compiling, and col References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505C75@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B1E0C0B.25181.658964@localhost> On 1 Jun 2001, at 19:12, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > I have never compiled Xfree86 with a cross-compiler under Cygwin. > Therefore I do not guarantee my suggestions will work. I am certain you > Will need to do a lot of hacking. > Thanks for the help. I've come that that same conclusion. > > > > How can I get rid of the --unix in Makeflags? I'm trying to do make > > World and nested down in a bunch of the subdirectories, when > > make gets to this section of the Makefile, > > > > $(ONESUBDIR)/Makefile: > > @for flag in ${MAKEFLAGS} ''; do \ > > case "$$flag" in *=*) ;; *[n]*) executeit="no";; esac; done; \ > > cd $(ONESUBDIR) && \ > > if [ "$$executeit" != "no" ]; then \ > > $(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IMAKE) -I$(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IRULESRC) > > $(IMAKE_DEFINES) -DTO > > PDIR=$(IMAKETOP) -DCURDIR=$(ONECURDIR)$(ONESUBDIR); \ > > fi; > > > this rule is in xc/config/xc/Imake.rules. > > @MakeFlagsToShellFlags(n,executeit="no"); \ @@\ > cd $(ONESUBDIR) && \ @@\ > if [ "$$executeit" != "no" ]; then \ @@\ > > If you fix the Imake.rules file, your Makefiles should be generated without > --unix makeflags? > > > > > it basically sees the --unix in MAKEFLAGS, sets executeit="no" and > > then doesn't run Imake to create the Makefile in each of the > > subdirectories. I don't know enough about makefiles yet to know > > why, so here is one of my questions. > > > > What is the real intention of that? Just ignoring that case statement > > lets the Makefiles get built, which is obviously the ultimate intention > > since if they didn't need to be built, doing a make World wouldn't > > choke with the statement that it couldn't find a rule to make clean in > > that subdir. > > I do not know what is the real intention of that. Perhaps Alan can shed > Light on it? > Hmmm. Well, I see how I can hack that Imake.rules file to always ignore that --unix makeflag (or all makeflags), but I don't see how I can get --unix 'out' of the makeflag so the Imake.rules file won't have that problem. I'm just a little leary about hacking functionality out of the process without understanding why someone else put it in (and what the implications of hacking it out really are). > > > > > I'm trying to build under cygwin, but I'm using a gcc cross-compiler > > targeting linux. > > > > My other problem (well, one of them) is that I was having a hard time > > convincing the Imake process to actually use the cross-compiler. > > I've seen the few examples, but I ended up just setting my cross- > > compiler as the default compiler and the few things that needed to > > be compiled native (like imake, makekeys, makestrs) I compiled > > separately and removed the compile references from the make > > process. This seems to have worked, but it seems less clean than > > running a real multi-compiler environment and I'm not sure it is an > > adequate solution. It also still throws up a number of dialog box > > errors in certain spots similar to what I get when I try to execute a > > linux program on my win2k machine from within bash. I haven't > > figured out where it is yet, but it's right after it does a ranlib on some > > lib and then an rf -f on that same lib. Would I be better off using a > > true multi-cross-compiler environment? And if so, how? When I > > was doing it, it always pulled in the cygwin.cf file and what I really > > need is for it to pull in the linux.cf file (which it does in my hacked > > version)? > > > Under Cygwin it supposed to pickup cygwin.cf. I am not a cross-compiler > expert therefore I do not know what to tell you about ranlib etc errors. > Yeah, unfortunately I'm not either. I am able to get through to the end by just pushing on through the dialog boxes, so although extremely annoying, it's not a complete showstopper at this point. It would be nice to have it flow smoothly though. Anybody else out there have any thoughts? > > > > Lastly, it was also choking because it couldn't find the col utility > > which I don't find in cygwin but I do find in linux. I managed to use > > a pair of jumper cables and arc around that issue, but I'd like to > > know what the proper way of handling this is. Get the sources for > > col and recompile under native cygwin? (where?) Patch in cat in > > place of col which is what it looks like is done for os2? > > You will need to port col utility. I am sure sources should be on Linux > SRMS CD. Extract the SRPM file on a linux machine with rpm2cpio. It > Should give you a *.tar.gz file, move it to your machine where Cygwin is > intsall, and port it to Cygwin. You may ask Cygwin mailing list > cygwin@cygwin.com if someone has arleady ported it to Cygwin. > > > Suhaib > Thanks for the help. -Jim From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Wed Jun 6 10:58:00 2001 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:58:00 -0000 Subject: Got 8 bits per pixel? References: Message-ID: <09cd01c0eeb2$c7cca1c0$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Hi, from my pc (either Win or Cygwin), telnet to Solaris. Then, in this telnet : $ setenv DISPLAY my_pc:0 $ xterm & Xterm appears on my XWin on my pc. In this xterm, I have the strange beavior. Solaris 2.5.1 : bad Solaris 2.7 : bad Solaris 2.8 : good This never appened on other X-servers. Thanks. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Francis VIVAT" Sent: mardi 5 juin 2001 19:56 Subject: RE: Got 8 bits per pixel? > > > when i xterm from a Solaris 2.5.1 to 2.7 > > Where does Cygwin/XFree86 fit in? Telnet to Solaris 2.5.1 from > Cygwin/XFree86, then telnet from that to Solaris 2.7, etc. ? I don't know > which machines are connecting to what, and I can't tell you you're saying > that a chain of telnet's fails or if telnetting to two different versions > both exhibit the same behaviour, etc. I'm not a very good X user, so you'll > have to bear with me. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Francis VIVAT [ mailto:francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr ] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:34 AM > > To: Harold Hunt > > Subject: Re: Got 8 bits per pixel? > > > > > > Hi again, > > > > > > > > > when i xterm from a Solaris 2.5.1 to 2.7, all keys that have 3 > > > > values (normal, > > > > with shift and with AltGr) return the third one. If it has 2 > > > > values, it works > > > > normaly. > > > > >From a Linux box, no problem. > > > > >From a Solaris 2.8, no problem. > > > > > > Does that involve Cygwin/XFree86 at all? If so, where does it > > fit it? If > > > not, I have no ideas :( > > > > It's Cygwin/XFree86 specific ! > > I don't understand : "where does it fit it ?" > > > > CU > > . \)|(/ > > . (o o) > > . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > > .(_| Francis VIVAT | > > . | CETP-CNRS | > > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | > > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | > > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ > > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) > > . \---------------------------------------------------/ > > . (_) (_) > > > > > > > > > > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 6 10:59:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Christopher Landrieu wrote: > > Therefore, TeraTermSSH is successfully making a working X connection to > localhost:0.0. TeraTermSSh in this case is technically an X client. The > only programs that fail to successfully connect are the local X clients from > XFree86. > Do you have access to any other non cygwin xclient? If so please check if it has the same problem connecting to connect. > Also, the local X clients cannot even connect properly to a remote X server. > I believe that the TCP/IP connection is being established successfully but > that these local X clients are not successfully setting up the X11 protocol > connection. This is because when I try to run "xterm -display > remote-x-server:0.0", I can see the connection openned on the remote machine > ("netstat -np" as root on my linux box). I believe the X server is then > dropping the connection (like when I do the "telnet localhost 6000" test). > AFAIR, Harold has found some pdf files explaining the X11 connection protocol. Harold - I've not found them on you homepage anymore. Are they still around. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 6 11:01:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:01:00 -0000 Subject: Got 8 bits per pixel? References: <09cd01c0eeb2$c7cca1c0$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Message-ID: Francis, > from my pc (either Win or Cygwin), telnet to Solaris. > Then, in this telnet : > $ setenv DISPLAY my_pc:0 > $ xterm & I'm a terrible X user, though I can program a thing or two :) Any particular reason why you set DISPLAY to my_pc:0 rather than my_pc:0.0? I was always under the impression that you were suppused to give both the display number and the screen number; at least, that's what I have always done, and it has always worked... Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 11:03:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:03:00 -0000 Subject: makeflags, cross-compiling, and col Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CB6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I cannot be really of much help for a cross-compilation. There is a --unix rule in Cygwin.cf file too. You can have a look at it. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: jimk [ mailto:jimk@scitechsoft.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:55 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: makeflags, cross-compiling, and col > > > On 1 Jun 2001, at 19:12, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > I have never compiled Xfree86 with a cross-compiler under Cygwin. > > Therefore I do not guarantee my suggestions will work. I > am certain you > > Will need to do a lot of hacking. > > > > Thanks for the help. I've come that that same conclusion. > > > > > > > How can I get rid of the --unix in Makeflags? I'm trying > to do make > > > World and nested down in a bunch of the subdirectories, when > > > make gets to this section of the Makefile, > > > > > > $(ONESUBDIR)/Makefile: > > > @for flag in ${MAKEFLAGS} ''; do \ > > > case "$$flag" in *=*) ;; *[n]*) executeit="no";; > esac; done; \ > > > cd $(ONESUBDIR) && \ > > > if [ "$$executeit" != "no" ]; then \ > > > $(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IMAKE) -I$(IMAKEPREFIX)$(IRULESRC) > > > $(IMAKE_DEFINES) -DTO > > > PDIR=$(IMAKETOP) -DCURDIR=$(ONECURDIR)$(ONESUBDIR); \ > > > fi; > > > > > > this rule is in xc/config/xc/Imake.rules. > > > > @MakeFlagsToShellFlags(n,executeit="no"); \ @@\ > > cd $(ONESUBDIR) && \ @@\ > > if [ "$$executeit" != "no" ]; then \ @@\ > > > > If you fix the Imake.rules file, your Makefiles should be > generated without > > --unix makeflags? > > > > > > > > it basically sees the --unix in MAKEFLAGS, sets executeit="no" and > > > then doesn't run Imake to create the Makefile in each of the > > > subdirectories. I don't know enough about makefiles yet to know > > > why, so here is one of my questions. > > > > > > What is the real intention of that? Just ignoring that > case statement > > > lets the Makefiles get built, which is obviously the > ultimate intention > > > since if they didn't need to be built, doing a make World wouldn't > > > choke with the statement that it couldn't find a rule to > make clean in > > > that subdir. > > > > I do not know what is the real intention of that. Perhaps > Alan can shed > > Light on it? > > > > Hmmm. Well, I see how I can hack that Imake.rules file to always > ignore that --unix makeflag (or all makeflags), but I don't see how I > can get --unix 'out' of the makeflag so the Imake.rules file > won't have > that problem. I'm just a little leary about hacking > functionality out of > the process without understanding why someone else put it in (and > what the implications of hacking it out really are). > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to build under cygwin, but I'm using a gcc > cross-compiler > > > targeting linux. > > > > > > My other problem (well, one of them) is that I was having > a hard time > > > convincing the Imake process to actually use the cross-compiler. > > > I've seen the few examples, but I ended up just setting my cross- > > > compiler as the default compiler and the few things that needed to > > > be compiled native (like imake, makekeys, makestrs) I compiled > > > separately and removed the compile references from the make > > > process. This seems to have worked, but it seems less clean than > > > running a real multi-compiler environment and I'm not > sure it is an > > > adequate solution. It also still throws up a number of dialog box > > > errors in certain spots similar to what I get when I try > to execute a > > > linux program on my win2k machine from within bash. I haven't > > > figured out where it is yet, but it's right after it does > a ranlib on some > > > lib and then an rf -f on that same lib. Would I be better > off using a > > > true multi-cross-compiler environment? And if so, how? When I > > > was doing it, it always pulled in the cygwin.cf file and > what I really > > > need is for it to pull in the linux.cf file (which it > does in my hacked > > > version)? > > > > > > Under Cygwin it supposed to pickup cygwin.cf. I am not a > cross-compiler > > expert therefore I do not know what to tell you about > ranlib etc errors. > > > Yeah, unfortunately I'm not either. I am able to get through to the > end by just pushing on through the dialog boxes, so although > extremely annoying, it's not a complete showstopper at this > point. It > would be nice to have it flow smoothly though. Anybody else out > there have any thoughts? > > > > > > > Lastly, it was also choking because it couldn't find the > col utility > > > which I don't find in cygwin but I do find in linux. I > managed to use > > > a pair of jumper cables and arc around that issue, but I'd like to > > > know what the proper way of handling this is. Get the sources for > > > col and recompile under native cygwin? (where?) Patch in cat in > > > place of col which is what it looks like is done for os2? > > > > You will need to port col utility. I am sure sources > should be on Linux > > SRMS CD. Extract the SRPM file on a linux machine with > rpm2cpio. It > > Should give you a *.tar.gz file, move it to your machine > where Cygwin is > > intsall, and port it to Cygwin. You may ask Cygwin mailing list > > cygwin@cygwin.com if someone has arleady ported it to Cygwin. > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > Thanks for the help. > -Jim > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 11:03:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:03:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CB7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Chris It is your VPN software. Several other users had same problems. You will find more messages in mail archive. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Landrieu [ mailto:landrieu@hotmail.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:50 PM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > > > Harold, > > I appreciate your reply. > > I originally considered that it could be an interaction with > VPN software > because I do have VPN packages on both computers, however the > problems occur > whether the VPN software is active or not. > > As well, the problem is not with all programs making TCP/IP > connections to > port 6000 on the localhost. That is evidenced by the fact > that the TeraTerm > SSH with X Forwarding worked. X Forwarding works by having > the remote SSH > server set up a dummy X server on the remote machine (display > 10 - :10.0) > and setting the DISPLAY variable to remote-machine:10.0. The > SSH server > then tunnels the X traffic through the encrypted SSH socket > to the SSH > client. The SSH client opens a connection to the local X server > (localhost:0.0). The SSH client redirects the tunneled X > traffic from the > SSH Socket to the connection to the local X server. > > Therefore, TeraTermSSH is successfully making a working X > connection to > localhost:0.0. TeraTermSSh in this case is technically an X > client. The > only programs that fail to successfully connect are the local > X clients from > XFree86. > > Also, the local X clients cannot even connect properly to a > remote X server. > I believe that the TCP/IP connection is being established > successfully but > that these local X clients are not successfully setting up > the X11 protocol > connection. This is because when I try to run "xterm -display > remote-x-server:0.0", I can see the connection openned on the > remote machine > ("netstat -np" as root on my linux box). I believe the X > server is then > dropping the connection (like when I do the "telnet localhost > 6000" test). > > That is why I would like to try and sniff the packets and see what > communication is taking place between the X server and the X clients. > > I'll let you know what I find. > > Chris > > >From: "Harold Hunt" > >To: > >Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:24:10 -0400 > > > >Chris, > > > >Hopefully you can identify the exact conditions that cause > this, as we > >haven't yet had a thorough examination of this problem. > > > >You might want to take a look at the current information we > have regarding > >this problem, as answered in my draft FAQ: > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.h tml#AEN290 > >A couple users have reported that removing VPN or firewall software solved >their problems. It makes sense that VPN software would cause a problem, as >VPN software usually causes connections to be redirected to a VPN tunnel; >when a request for 127.0.0.1:6000 or host-name-or-ip-address:6000 shows up >at the end of the VPN tunnel, the computer at the end of the VPN tunnel >can't satisfy the request, so the connection fails. (The VPN machine isn't >running Cygwin/XFree86, so 127.0.0.1:6000 would fail; as for >host-name-or-ip-address:6000, the VPN software may reject that because it >is >looping the VPN back onto itself.) > >It would have to be pretty braindead VPN software that causes this problem, >as 127.0.0.1 should never be redirected. I used the included VPN support >with Windows 2000, but I never had problems. Users of lesser known VPN >software seem to be the ones reporting problems :) > >Uninstalling VPN or firewalling software from a machine doesn't always fix >the problem, as the uninstall program may leave certain files and settings >in place, thus preserving the problem. > >Anyway, let me know what you come up with, > >Harold > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 6 11:14:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:14:00 -0000 Subject: Got 8 bits per pixel? References: Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Harold Hunt wrote: > Francis, > > > from my pc (either Win or Cygwin), telnet to Solaris. > > Then, in this telnet : > > $ setenv DISPLAY my_pc:0 > > $ xterm & > > I'm a terrible X user, though I can program a thing or two :) Any > particular reason why you set DISPLAY to my_pc:0 rather than my_pc:0.0? I > was always under the impression that you were suppused to give both the > display number and the screen number; at least, that's what I have always > done, and it has always worked... the format is host:display.screen display is listening port - 6000; screen is used to access for instance a second crt or - AFAIR - XWin :0 -screen 0 800x600x16 -screen 1 800x600x16 and you can connect to localhost:0.0 and localhost:0.1. By default it's always screen 0. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From flognat@flognat.myip.org Wed Jun 6 11:35:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:35:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: Message-ID: | I originally considered that it could be an interaction with VPN | software because I do have VPN packages on both computers, however the | problems occur whether the VPN software is active or not. What VPN-software do you use? Is it possible to completely deinstall it and give it a try? It can have hacked into the socket libraries of windows.. Have you tried setting up some other application listening on som port and connecting locally.. like a minimal webserver (included in python :-), or just some kind of hello world test.. /Andy From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 6 14:09:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:09:00 -0000 Subject: Xvfb source? Message-ID: <200106062109.f56L9VI12540@pilot27.cl.msu.edu> Hello Helpful Cyg/Xfree people... I see that there is a Xvfb binary available... Is there a source tree available somewhere for that? I am intersted in building it from scratch... What version of Xfree is it based off of? Thanks Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 14:31:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:31:00 -0000 Subject: Xvfb source? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CBB@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You can retrieve source from XFree86.org (www.xfree86.org) It is part of xfree86. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:10 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Xvfb source? > > > Hello Helpful Cyg/Xfree people... I see that there is a Xvfb binary > available... Is there a source tree available somewhere for > that? I am > intersted in building it from scratch... What version of > Xfree is it based off > of? > > Thanks > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 6 14:38:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:38:00 -0000 Subject: Xvfb source? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CBC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Patches are part of XFree86. Xfree86 officially supports Cygwin, since almost a year Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:37 PM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Re: Xvfb source? > > > Ok, I knew it was there, but I guess I assumed there were > patches necessary to > get to work in cygwin. I will download it then. Thanks. > > Brian > > > > > You can retrieve source from XFree86.org (www.xfree86.org) > It is part of > > xfree86. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:10 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > Subject: Xvfb source? > > > > > > > > > Hello Helpful Cyg/Xfree people... I see that there is a > Xvfb binary > > > available... Is there a source tree available somewhere for > > > that? I am > > > intersted in building it from scratch... What version of > > > Xfree is it based off > > > of? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 6 16:58:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:58:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: Message-ID: Alexander, > AFAIR, Harold has found some pdf files explaining the X11 connection protocol. > Harold - I've not found them on you homepage anymore. Are they still around. http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/contributing/index.htm#documentation-links Harold From karl.philipp@danet.de Thu Jun 7 01:06:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 01:06:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: Message-ID: Hi, > Does XWin.exe output any messages on startup before the > STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION? c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -query -from _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1274 height 998 winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy 0 [main] XWin 230 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 698 [main] XWin 230 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to XWin.exe.stackdump > Could you give Test28 a shot, as it is really starting to sound like a > problem specific to the Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0 binaries... XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -query ... : XWin crashes XWin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -query ... : XWin hangs XWin -screen 0 800x768x32 -query ... : XWin works well, ups ... After the finish of the remote CDE Session - XWin was always running, i.e. I saw the CDE login again - I got infinitely many messages of type winWindowProc () - WM_NCMOUSEMOVE - Couldn't obtain last screen privates Thus, I have to kill XWin. XWin -screen 0 600x480x32 -query ... : XWin works well, but ... After the finish of the remote CDE Session - XWin was always running, i.e. I saw the CDE login again - I got infinitely many messages of type winWindowProc () - WM_NCMOUSEMOVE - Couldn't obtain last screen privates Thus, I have to kill XWin. > Try Test27: Yesterday I tried Test27: It caused the same problems. Thanks for your help! Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From Jerome.Anten@holland.sun.com Thu Jun 7 01:38:00 2001 From: Jerome.Anten@holland.sun.com (Jerome Anten - SUN Microsystems -) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 01:38:00 -0000 Subject: Q: problem "maximum number of clients reached" Message-ID: <3B1F3DF0.DEB1758E@holland.sun.com> Hi list, I'm new here, and encountered the same proplems described below, but, there is a much better way to overcome this problem: Don't recompile ! but update the max. file descriptors of you process. The _SC_OPEN_MAX if obtained from unix syscall "sysconf()" and will return the max open files possible in the current process context. Knowing this, we can easily increase this in the bash shell by typing: # ulimit -a (see all current limits) # ulimit -n 128 ( increase open files to 128 ) I added this in the following startx script, which I use to start the X server (see script below): Note, the broadcast IP address is used to get a XDCMP chooser list from a host on the same network, because the cygwin Xserver can't generate this list by itself..... (maybe in a new release ?) Hopefully this will help ! (it did for me) regards, -- Jerome Anten. -------------------------------------------- #!/usr/bin/bash # # Start Xserver # Increase open file limit ulimit -n 128 # Get local IP number IP=`ipconfig |grep "IP Addr" | awk 'BEGIN {FS=":"} { print $2 }'` # Get broadcast address IPB1=`echo $IP | cut -d. -f1-3` IPB=`echo $IPB1.255` # Default command cmd="Xwin -screen 0 1024x768x32 +bs -wm -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 -once -from $IP " if [ "x$1" == "x" ]; then echo -n "Give remote host to connect to ([Retrun] = broadcast mode) : " read rhost if [ "x$rhost" == "x" ]; then $cmd -indirect $IPB & else $cmd -query $rhost & fi else $cmd -query $1 & fi ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Heiko Nardmann wrote: > I suddenly got the following message: > > Xlib: connection to "sn-pc161.cubis.de:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached > > How can I increase the maximum number of clients? > recompile the XServer :( in programs/Xserver/os/connection.c put another line after lastfdesc = sysconf(_SC_OPEN_MAX) - 1; with lastfdesc = 255; I don't know if it's safe, but I had it running in a similar way for hours. Or better, ask on cygwin-ml why sysconf(_SC_OPEN_MAX) says that only 26? open files are allowed and beg them to change this. Once they have changed it, XWin should accept more connections without recompiling. :) bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org +49 3725 349 80 80 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Jun 7 02:53:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:53:00 -0000 Subject: CTRL+C problem Message-ID: <20010607105529.C1376@valinux.com> Has anyone seen this problem with hitting CTRL+C..... launch a cygwin shell on your windows box. launch an xterm in the background. start a compile off (or something that takes time) in the xterm. start a compile off (or something that takes time) in the cygwin shell. now hit CTRL+C in the cygwin shell. It ends up sending a signal to both xterm and the cygwin shell stopping both compiles. Anyone seen this ? It may be a problem with cygwin's signal handling as the xterm process has been spawned in the background. I'm using NT 4.0 (SP6) with XFree86 4.1.0 Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jun 7 02:57:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:57:00 -0000 Subject: CTRL+C problem References: <20010607105529.C1376@valinux.com> Message-ID: <008701c0ef38$39085bb0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: CTRL+C problem > Has anyone seen this problem with hitting CTRL+C..... I had some nasty problems with signals in 1.3.2 that aren't present on my CVS based custom cygwin1.dll. (I never reported because by the time I built a custom dll to investigate, they were apparently fixed in CVS :]. > launch a cygwin shell on your windows box. > > launch an xterm in the background. > > start a compile off (or something that takes time) in the xterm. > > start a compile off (or something that takes time) in the cygwin shell. > > now hit CTRL+C in the cygwin shell. > > It ends up sending a signal to both xterm and the cygwin shell stopping both > compiles. That's weird. Info gathering time: I presume you started X after the xygwin shell, or before? Are you using rxvt-win32 for the cygwin shell, or cmd.exe? What .dll version are you running? I'd suggest building from CVS and seeing if that helps. Rob > Anyone seen this ? It may be a problem with cygwin's signal handling as the > xterm process has been spawned in the background. > > I'm using NT 4.0 (SP6) with XFree86 4.1.0 > > Alan. > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Jun 7 03:28:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:28:00 -0000 Subject: CTRL+C problem References: <20010607105529.C1376@valinux.com> <008701c0ef38$39085bb0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010607113008.E1376@valinux.com> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:57:10PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > That's weird. Info gathering time: > I presume you started X after the xygwin shell, or before? Are you using > rxvt-win32 for the cygwin shell, or cmd.exe? What .dll version are you > running? > Start cygwin shell (cmd.exe). Start X (in background) from cmd.exe Start an xterm (in background) from cmd.exe > I'd suggest building from CVS and seeing if that helps. > Bit difficult at the moment. Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jun 7 03:30:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:30:00 -0000 Subject: CTRL+C problem References: <20010607105529.C1376@valinux.com> <008701c0ef38$39085bb0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010607113008.E1376@valinux.com> Message-ID: <00ba01c0ef3c$e8f461a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:57:10PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > That's weird. Info gathering time: > > I presume you started X after the xygwin shell, or before? Are you using > > rxvt-win32 for the cygwin shell, or cmd.exe? What .dll version are you > > running? > > And your dll version? > Start cygwin shell (cmd.exe). > Start X (in background) from cmd.exe > Start an xterm (in background) from cmd.exe > > > I'd suggest building from CVS and seeing if that helps. > > > Bit difficult at the moment. Ahh. Well try a snapshot - the 4th June snapshot should be recent enough. [cgf - If you have time could you kick off another snapshot ... the thread fix is likely a show stopper for threads users..] Rob > > Alan. > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Jun 7 03:50:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:50:00 -0000 Subject: CTRL+C problem References: <20010607105529.C1376@valinux.com> <008701c0ef38$39085bb0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010607113008.E1376@valinux.com> <00ba01c0ef3c$e8f461a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010607115232.G1376@valinux.com> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:30:43PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Hourihane" > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:57:10PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > > That's weird. Info gathering time: > > > I presume you started X after the xygwin shell, or before? Are you > using > > > rxvt-win32 for the cygwin shell, or cmd.exe? What .dll version are > you > > > running? > > > > > And your dll version? > 1.3.2. > > Start cygwin shell (cmd.exe). > > Start X (in background) from cmd.exe > > Start an xterm (in background) from cmd.exe > > > > > I'd suggest building from CVS and seeing if that helps. > > > > > Bit difficult at the moment. > > Ahh. Well try a snapshot - the 4th June snapshot should be recent > enough. [cgf - If you have time could you kick off another snapshot ... > the thread fix is likely a show stopper for threads users..] > O.k. I'll get this now, as I'm putting the finishing touches to the ThreadedX support. What was the problem with this thread fix ? Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jun 7 04:03:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 04:03:00 -0000 Subject: CTRL+C problem References: <20010607105529.C1376@valinux.com> <008701c0ef38$39085bb0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010607113008.E1376@valinux.com> <00ba01c0ef3c$e8f461a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010607115232.G1376@valinux.com> Message-ID: <00cc01c0ef41$7c0ec7b0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" > O.k. I'll get this now, as I'm putting the finishing touches to the > ThreadedX support. > > What was the problem with this thread fix ? http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-patches/2001-q2/msg00277.html Incorrect debug messages to valid pthread_cond_broadcast calls and broken pthread_cond_wait and pthread_cond_timedwait. Rob > Alan. > From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Thu Jun 7 04:36:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 04:36:00 -0000 Subject: MIT-SHM in Cygwin/Xfree86? Message-ID: <200106071136.f57Baga33006@pilot18.cl.msu.edu> I noticed there is no default support for the MIT-SHM extension. Has MIT-SHM been successfully built under Cygwin? Thanks, Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 7 04:41:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 04:41:00 -0000 Subject: MIT-SHM in Cygwin/Xfree86? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CC3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Yes, there is no default support because Cygwin does not support SHM, by default. You need to build it yourself, but the libraries and clients built with SHM support are unsupported by us.... in short you are on own if you run into some weirdos ;-) Search mail archive, please, with the keywords "cyyipc" and you will find a thread by me, Rob, and Alan on this topic. Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:37 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: MIT-SHM in Cygwin/Xfree86? > > > I noticed there is no default support for the MIT-SHM > extension. Has MIT-SHM > been successfully built under Cygwin? > > Thanks, > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From karl.philipp@danet.de Thu Jun 7 05:03:00 2001 From: karl.philipp@danet.de (Karl Philipp) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 05:03:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Crash of XFree 4.1.0: XWin 262 handle_exceptions References: Message-ID: Hi, > Does XWin.exe output any messages on startup before the > STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION? I searched the web for the term STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION and found the microsoft page http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/winbase/memman_6krn.htm with following explanation: HeapAlloc ... Return Values ... STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION The allocation attempt failed because of heap corruption or improper function parameters ... regards Karl --- Karl Philipp Phone : +49 6151 868 - 518 Fax : +49 6151 868 - 980 eMail : mailto:karl.philipp@danet.de Danet GmbH, Business Unit BI Gutenbergstr. 10 64331 Weiterstadt, Germany WWW : http://www.danet.de From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jun 7 05:52:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 05:52:00 -0000 Subject: Q: problem "maximum number of clients reached" References: <3B1F3DF0.DEB1758E@holland.sun.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Jerome Anten - SUN Microsystems - wrote: > Hi list, > I'm new here, and encountered the same proplems described below, > but, there is a much better way to overcome this problem: > > Don't recompile ! but update the max. file descriptors of you process. > The _SC_OPEN_MAX if obtained from unix syscall "sysconf()" and will > return the max open files possible in the current process context. > Knowing this, we can easily increase this in the bash shell by typing: > > # ulimit -a (see all current limits) > # ulimit -n 128 ( increase open files to 128 ) > thanks, I've not know about this issue. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 3498080 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From brett1@home.com Thu Jun 7 06:55:00 2001 From: brett1@home.com (Brett Beebe) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 06:55:00 -0000 Subject: XFree 4.0.3 Font problems Message-ID: I have installed everything correctly and it's working. But when I first connect to the unix machine using CDE none of the test is there. After I logon and get to my desktop again none of the text is there. I am able to launch the primary application I will be using and finally the text is avaiable. But I would really like to be able to see the other stuff as well. From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Jun 7 07:33:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: XFree 4.0.3 Font problems References: Message-ID: Hmm can you set the CDE-machine as fontserver or similar in the fontpath? /Andy / "Brett Beebe" wrote: | I have installed everything correctly and it's working. But when I first | connect to the unix machine using CDE none of the test is there. After I | logon and get to my desktop again none of the text is there. I am able to | launch the primary application I will be using and finally the text is | avaiable. But I would really like to be able to see the other stuff as | well. From KVFilimonov@lbl.gov Thu Jun 7 08:13:00 2001 From: KVFilimonov@lbl.gov (Kirill Filimonov) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe Message-ID: <271862289c.2289c27186@lbl.gov> I've downloaded the last version of the server test (28) and encountered a problem while starting a certain program under the server - it actually kills it. The message is Fatal server error: negative sized edge? It's never happened before. The last test version I used before upgrading to 28 was 24. Kirill Filimonov From cedric.bompart@morse.com Thu Jun 7 10:29:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:29:00 -0000 Subject: lesstiff compilation pb Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714B0@EXCHANGE1> Hi, I try to compile lesstiff 0.92.32 and I got this error during the compilation: make[3]: Entering directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../include -I../../../include/Motif-1.2 -I.. /../../include/Motif-1.2 -I../../../lib/Mrm -I../../ ../lib/Mrm -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -Wall -c main.c main.c: In function `main': main.c:82: warning: implicit declaration of function `getopt' main.c:91: `optarg' undeclared (first use in this function) main.c:91: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once main.c:91: for each function it appears in.) main.c:127: `optind' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 I compiled/installed the latest version of libtool (1.4), so what should I do? and I got the latest version of cygwin and xfree... Thx. Ced. -- Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk This email and any attachments are confidential and are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this email and have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete it from your system. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 7 10:36:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:36:00 -0000 Subject: lesstiff compilation pb Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CCA@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> check if main.c includes getopt.h If not then you need to add to it #ifdef __CYGWIN__ #include #endif suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cedric Bompart [ mailto:cedric.bompart@morse.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:29 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > Subject: lesstiff compilation pb > > > Hi, > > I try to compile lesstiff 0.92.32 and I got this error during the > compilation: > > make[3]: Entering directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../include > -I../../../include/Motif-1.2 > -I.. > /../../include/Motif-1.2 -I../../../lib/Mrm > -I../../ > ../lib/Mrm -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -Wall -c main.c > main.c: In function `main': > main.c:82: warning: implicit declaration of function `getopt' > main.c:91: `optarg' undeclared (first use in this function) > main.c:91: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > main.c:91: for each function it appears in.) > main.c:127: `optind' undeclared (first use in this function) > make[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > I compiled/installed the latest version of libtool (1.4), so > what should I > do? and I got the latest version of cygwin and xfree... > > Thx. > Ced. > > -- > Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae > tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 > email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk > > This email and any attachments are confidential and are > intended only for > the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email and have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by > reply email > and then delete it from your system. > From cedric.bompart@morse.com Thu Jun 7 10:43:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: lesstiff compilation pb Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714B1@EXCHANGE1> thx to reply so quickly... :-) I checked and every thing is defined... and I got getopt.h in /usr/include Here is my configure call: ./configure --with-x --x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include --x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib --enable-production=yes --enable-static=yes --enable-shared=no -----Original Message----- From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] Sent: 07 June 2001 18:36 To: 'Cedric Bompart'; 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' Subject: RE: lesstiff compilation pb check if main.c includes getopt.h If not then you need to add to it #ifdef __CYGWIN__ #include #endif suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cedric Bompart [ mailto:cedric.bompart@morse.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:29 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > Subject: lesstiff compilation pb > > > Hi, > > I try to compile lesstiff 0.92.32 and I got this error during the > compilation: > > make[3]: Entering directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../include > -I../../../include/Motif-1.2 > -I.. > /../../include/Motif-1.2 -I../../../lib/Mrm > -I../../ > ../lib/Mrm -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -Wall -c main.c > main.c: In function `main': > main.c:82: warning: implicit declaration of function `getopt' > main.c:91: `optarg' undeclared (first use in this function) > main.c:91: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > main.c:91: for each function it appears in.) > main.c:127: `optind' undeclared (first use in this function) > make[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > I compiled/installed the latest version of libtool (1.4), so > what should I > do? and I got the latest version of cygwin and xfree... > > Thx. > Ced. > > -- > Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae > tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 > email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk > > This email and any attachments are confidential and are > intended only for > the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email and have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by > reply email > and then delete it from your system. > From cedric.bompart@morse.com Thu Jun 7 11:04:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:04:00 -0000 Subject: lesstiff compilation pb Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714B2@EXCHANGE1> thx fixed it! in the LTconfig.h the CYGWIN const wasn't define -----Original Message----- From: Cedric Bompart [ mailto:cedric.bompart@morse.com ] Sent: 07 June 2001 18:43 To: Xfree (E-mail) Subject: RE: lesstiff compilation pb thx to reply so quickly... :-) I checked and every thing is defined... and I got getopt.h in /usr/include Here is my configure call: ./configure --with-x --x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include --x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib --enable-production=yes --enable-static=yes --enable-shared=no -----Original Message----- From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] Sent: 07 June 2001 18:36 To: 'Cedric Bompart'; 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' Subject: RE: lesstiff compilation pb check if main.c includes getopt.h If not then you need to add to it #ifdef __CYGWIN__ #include #endif suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cedric Bompart [ mailto:cedric.bompart@morse.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:29 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > Subject: lesstiff compilation pb > > > Hi, > > I try to compile lesstiff 0.92.32 and I got this error during the > compilation: > > make[3]: Entering directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../include > -I../../../include/Motif-1.2 > -I.. > /../../include/Motif-1.2 -I../../../lib/Mrm > -I../../ > ../lib/Mrm -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -Wall -c main.c > main.c: In function `main': > main.c:82: warning: implicit declaration of function `getopt' > main.c:91: `optarg' undeclared (first use in this function) > main.c:91: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > main.c:91: for each function it appears in.) > main.c:127: `optind' undeclared (first use in this function) > make[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0/uil' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients/Motif-2.0' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/lesstif-0.92.32/clients' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > I compiled/installed the latest version of libtool (1.4), so > what should I > do? and I got the latest version of cygwin and xfree... > > Thx. > Ced. > > -- > Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae > tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 > email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk > > This email and any attachments are confidential and are > intended only for > the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email and have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by > reply email > and then delete it from your system. > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 7 17:25:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:25:00 -0000 Subject: Windows XP users Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CD2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> A few users who had been (attempted to use) using Cygwin/XFree86 on Windows XP Beta 2, Should consider installing Cygwin Development snapshot from June 4th. It seems to work on My Windows XP Professional Beta2, using bash as shell for xterm did not return cygheap error. Suhaib From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 7 17:45:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:45:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe References: <271862289c.2289c27186@lbl.gov> Message-ID: Kirill, > Fatal server error: > negative sized edge? > > It's never happened before. The last test version I used before > upgrading to 28 was 24. I started building the test releases directly from the XFree86 CVS tree after Test24. Prior to that I was building the test releases from a carefully patched 4.0.3 tree (without CVS). Builds that came from the XFree86 CVS tree started exhibiting the "negative sized edge?" problem; however, I am not at all certain that this problem is related only to Cygwin/XFree86. I'm inclined to wait and see if the general XFree86 user base starts reporting this error. If they do, then it's not a Cygwin/XFree86 problem, if they don't, then it is a Cygwin/XFree86 problem :) Thanks for your interest in the project, Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 7 18:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:01:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CD4@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> There is no negative edge problem I had with Xfree86 4.1.0, though I did minor cosmetic changes to cygwin.cf, cygwin.rules and cygwin.tmpl to fix some of the xmkmf and link order problems. I also do not see any recent changes in Changlog at xfree86.org which would affect Cygwin. All the changes, except CYgwin/XFree86 are beining commited for stuff under hw/xfree86. we do not use hw/xfree86 therefore it should have no affect on Cygwin/XFree86. Therefore I assume it is a TESTS problem. Here is a latest hack for xterm, for the people who compile from sources, to avoid seeing annoying "setegid(513) invalid argument" warnings. > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 8:45 PM > To: Kirill Filimonov > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: problems with XWin-Test28.exe > > Kirill, > > > Fatal server error: > > negative sized edge? > > > > It's never happened before. The last test version I used before > > upgrading to 28 was 24. > > I started building the test releases directly from the XFree86 CVS tree > after Test24. Prior to that I was building the test releases from a > carefully patched 4.0.3 tree (without CVS). Builds that came from the > XFree86 CVS tree started exhibiting the "negative sized edge?" problem; > however, I am not at all certain that this problem is related only to > Cygwin/XFree86. > > I'm inclined to wait and see if the general XFree86 user base starts > reporting this error. If they do, then it's not a Cygwin/XFree86 problem, > if they don't, then it is a Cygwin/XFree86 problem :) > > Thanks for your interest in the project, > > Harold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: main-xterm.diff Type: text/x-diff Size: 645 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 7 18:08:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:08:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CD4@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: > There is no negative edge problem I had with Xfree86 4.1.0, though I did > minor cosmetic changes Really? Have a look at: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01456.html Harold From cedric.bompart@morse.com Fri Jun 8 02:38:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 02:38:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714B5@EXCHANGE1> Hi, If I lock/un-lock my NT station, the xfree server doesn't response any more (keyboard)... and have you succeed to compile GLIB/GTK+ 1.2.10? I need it to compile the latest version of xfce (3.8.3). I receive this for the glib compilation: make[2]: Entering directory `/glib-1.2.10' /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN= g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 -Wall -D _REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c -o gstrfuncs.o gstrfuncs.c: In function `g_strsignal': gstrfuncs.c:706: conflicting types for `strsignal' /usr/include/string.h:70: previous declaration of `strsignal' gstrfuncs.c:706: warning: extern declaration of `strsignal' doesn't match global one make[2]: *** [gstrfuncs.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Thx. Ced. -- Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk This email and any attachments are confidential and are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this email and have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete it from your system. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 8 03:47:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 03:47:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CD5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:08 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: problems with XWin-Test28.exe > > > > There is no negative edge problem I had with Xfree86 4.1.0, > though I did > > minor cosmetic changes > > Really? Yes really. > > Have a look at: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01456.html This is still refering to Tests, though in this case older one. Has anyone seen negative edge problem with releases 4.1.0 binaries from Cygwin/XFree86. Maybe I am missing something here. Suhaib > > Harold > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 8 03:54:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 03:54:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CD7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Hi, > > If I lock/un-lock my NT station, the xfree server doesn't > response any more > (keyboard)... > > and have you succeed to compile GLIB/GTK+ 1.2.10? I need it > to compile the > latest version of xfce (3.8.3). > I receive this for the glib compilation: search mail archive please. Someone else has done it. We do not target anything else except XFree86. If you or anyone else wants to contribute GLIB/GTK, I will be happy to put it in "contrib" directory. Suhaib > > make[2]: Entering directory `/glib-1.2.10' > /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. > -DG_LOG_DOMAIN= > g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. > -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 > -Wall -D > _REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c -o gstrfuncs.o > gstrfuncs.c: In function `g_strsignal': > gstrfuncs.c:706: conflicting types for `strsignal' > /usr/include/string.h:70: previous declaration of `strsignal' > gstrfuncs.c:706: warning: extern declaration of `strsignal' > doesn't match > global > one > make[2]: *** [gstrfuncs.lo] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > > Thx. > Ced. > > -- > Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae > tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 > email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk > > This email and any attachments are confidential and are > intended only for > the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email and have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by > reply email > and then delete it from your system. > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 8 03:56:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CD5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010608115826.E913@valinux.com> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 06:47:38AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > This is still refering to Tests, though in this case older one. > Has anyone seen negative edge problem with releases 4.1.0 binaries > from Cygwin/XFree86. Maybe I am missing something here. > I've not seen it myself. But we could really do with a test case. Can someone who has seen this problem give a little explanation on what they did for the Xserver to crash this way.... Then I can debug here. Thanks. Alan. From goncal11@cabs40.col.bsf.alcatel.fr Fri Jun 8 03:56:00 2001 From: goncal11@cabs40.col.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: syslogd problem Message-ID: <200106081105.NAA23271@cabs41.col.bsf.alcatel.fr> I use cygwin with windows 98 and i can't retrieve log_ftp informations when i use tftp server i only have in my syslog .conf this: *.* /var/log/messages ftp.* /var/log/ftp.log I have informations on the file messages but nothing in the file ftp.log why? Thank you. jorge. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 8 04:03:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:03:00 -0000 Subject: syslogd problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CD8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> This one should posted to cygwin@cygwin.com please. Xfree86 has nothing to do with ftp and tftp. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@cabs40.col.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:06 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: syslogd problem > > > I use cygwin with windows 98 and i can't retrieve log_ftp > informations when i > use tftp server i only have in my syslog .conf this: > *.* /var/log/messages > ftp.* /var/log/ftp.log > > I have informations on the file messages but nothing in the > file ftp.log why? > > Thank you. > > jorge. > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 8 04:43:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:43:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe References: <271862289c.2289c27186@lbl.gov> Message-ID: <20010608124525.F913@valinux.com> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:13:24AM -0700, Kirill Filimonov wrote: > I've downloaded the last version of the server test (28) and encountered > a problem > while starting a certain program under the server - it actually kills > it. > The message is > > Fatal server error: > negative sized edge? > > It's never happened before. The last test version I used before > upgrading to 28 was 24. > Hello Kirill, Can you tell us which app you started caused the server to do this ? Thanks. Alan. From andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com Fri Jun 8 05:16:00 2001 From: andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com (andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: Font problems Message-ID: Hi, I am using my cygwin/XFree X-server to do a XDMCP connection to a Sun Solaris server. Applications using the -df-interface* fonts will not find the fonts. I have tried do set up a fonts.alias file, but I can't get it to work. I would really appreciate some help, thanks, Andreas From jasonday@mediaone.net Fri Jun 8 07:06:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:06:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K Message-ID: <20010608095638.A3309@spiderman.cherlon.com> Hello, I've seen several messages in the archives about this. The problem is that the X server starts, but twm and xterm abort with a message like 'unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"'. In my case, this happened when I upgraded Cygwin to version 1.3.1. As others have said, I am able to start the X server, but I can't run any of the xfree clients; I can, however, run remote X clients, and I can run a remote X session with xdmcp. I've also compiled an X application, and it aborts with the same error message. I'm currently using cygwin 1.3.2 and XFree86 4.1.0 binaries, on Windows 2000. It seems to work fine in windows98 though (cygwin 1.3.2, XFree86 4.0.3). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jason -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 8 12:29:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:29:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K Message-ID: Jason, Could you please give Test29 a shot to see if it exhibits the same behavior? http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Thanks, Harold From jasonday@mediaone.net Fri Jun 8 13:54:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:54:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K References: Message-ID: <20010608164459.A3754@spiderman.cherlon.com> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:28:56PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > Jason, > > Could you please give Test29 a shot to see if it exhibits the same behavior? > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Same results: ----- C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>startxwin Path not found - C:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix The system cannot find the file specified. The system cannot find the file specified. C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pix el winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 height 768 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! ----- At this point, however, the server is running, and I can telnet to one of our Solaris boxes, set the DISPLAY to the ip of my box, open an xterm, and the xterm pops up in my server. It's just local clients that don't work. I haven't tried running local clients on a remote display, but that apparently doesn't work either: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02046.html Jason > > Thanks, > > Harold -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 8 14:03:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:03:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Do you some firewall or VPN software installed? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Day [ mailto:jasonday@mediaone.net ] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 4:45 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Cc: jasonday@mediaone.net; cygx > Subject: Re: Xclients don't work in win2K > > > On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:28:56PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > Jason, > > > > Could you please give Test29 a shot to see if it exhibits > the same behavior? > > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ > > Same results: > ----- > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>startxwin > Path not found - C:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > The system cannot find the file specified. > The system cannot find the file specified. > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > 127.0.0.1:0.0 > twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth > of 16 bits per > pix > el > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 > height 768 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > from li > st! > ----- > > At this point, however, the server is running, and I can > telnet to one of > our Solaris boxes, set the DISPLAY to the ip of my box, open > an xterm, and > the xterm pops up in my server. It's just local clients that > don't work. > > I haven't tried running local clients on a remote display, but that > apparently doesn't work either: > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02046.html Jason > > Thanks, > > Harold -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From flognat@flognat.myip.org Fri Jun 8 14:20:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:20:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Just a thought.. doesn't the xterm seem to report error _BEFORE_ the X-server is up and running?? Try to add a 'pause' in the batch-file, before starting the xterm, pressing enter in that window when the x-server is up and running? /Andy [...] | > Same results: | > ----- | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>startxwin | > Path not found - C:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix | > The system cannot find the file specified. | > The system cannot find the file specified. | > | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: | > 127.0.0.1:0.0 | > twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f | > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 | > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth | > of 16 bits per | > pix | > el | > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 | > height 768 | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 | > 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning | > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () | > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () | > Could not init font path element | > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing | > from li | > st! | > ----- | > | > At this point, however, the server is running, and I can | > telnet to one of | > our Solaris boxes, set the DISPLAY to the ip of my box, open | > an xterm, and | > the xterm pops up in my server. It's just local clients that | > don't work. | > | > I haven't tried running local clients on a remote display, but that | > apparently doesn't work either: | > | http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02046.html | | Jason | > | > Thanks, | > | > Harold | | -- | Jason Day jasonday at | http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net | | "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." | -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 8 14:47:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:47:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> X-server gray window displays,. Can you try from a Cygwin bash shell, after you start Xserver? cd /usr/X11R6/bin export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 ./xterm -e bash& Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Markebo [ mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org ] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 5:21 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: Xclients don't work in win2K > > > Just a thought.. doesn't the xterm seem to report error _BEFORE_ the > X-server is up and running?? > > Try to add a 'pause' in the batch-file, before starting the xterm, > pressing enter in that window when the x-server is up and running? > > /Andy > > [...] > > | > Same results: > | > ----- > | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>startxwin > | > Path not found - C:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > | > The system cannot find the file specified. > | > The system cannot find the file specified. > | > > | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > | > 127.0.0.1:0.0 > | > twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported > engines 0000000f > | > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > | > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth > | > of 16 bits per > | > pix > | > el > | > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 > | > height 768 > | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > | > 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > | > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > | > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > | > Could not init font path element > | > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > | > from li > | > st! > | > ----- > | > > | > At this point, however, the server is running, and I can > | > telnet to one of > | > our Solaris boxes, set the DISPLAY to the ip of my box, open > | > an xterm, and > | > the xterm pops up in my server. It's just local clients that > | > don't work. > | > > | > I haven't tried running local clients on a remote > display, but that > | > apparently doesn't work either: > | > > | http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02046.html > | > | Jason > | > > | > Thanks, > | > > | > Harold > | > | -- > | Jason Day jasonday at > | http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net > | > | "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." > | -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 8 14:48:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: Font problems Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Can you not use font and use fonts from Solaris? Suhaib. > -----Original Message----- > From: andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com > [ mailto:andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com ] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:16 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Font problems > > > Hi, > > I am using my cygwin/XFree X-server to do a XDMCP connection > to a Sun Solaris server. Applications using the -df-interface* fonts > will not find the fonts. I have tried do set up a fonts.alias > file, but > I can't get it to work. > > I would really appreciate some help, > thanks, > Andreas > From bkr@lmtsun.astro.umass.edu Fri Jun 8 15:00:00 2001 From: bkr@lmtsun.astro.umass.edu (Brooks Rownd) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:00:00 -0000 Subject: error starting xfree Message-ID: <200106082200.SAA27909@lmtsun.astro.umass.edu> I'm running a newly-installed xfree 4.0.3 and cygwin on top of Win98. X won't start from either startxwin.bat (within Win98) or startx (within cygwin). Here is my startxwin.bat: @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 start .\twm Here are the error messages: _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines <> - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines <> - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines <> - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines <> - Returning. supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine <> - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustedVideoModeShadowDDNL <> - Command line depth: 32, using depth: 8 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed <> - WindowClient width 800 height 600 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL <> - Masks 00000000 00000000 00000000 RGB 0 d 8 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL <> - Calling miSetVisualTypesAndMasks winInitVisualsShadowDDNL <> - Returning 0 [main] XWIN 355809 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_INTEGER_DIVIDE_BY_ZERO 1031 [main] XWIN 355809 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to XWIN.EXE.stackdump The X window opens and closes immediately. I could include the stackdump if it helps. Using startx I get the same, with a different error message: 0 [main] X 353093 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to XWIN.EXE.stackdump thanks, brooks bkr@lmtgtm.org From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 8 16:31:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:31:00 -0000 Subject: error starting xfree Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Your windows is set to 8 bps and you are trying to use 32 bps. 8 bps is buggy is current binary release. You need to change your windows display resolution to 16 or 32, and use same for xwin suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brooks Rownd [ mailto:bkr@lmtsun.astro.umass.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:01 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: error starting xfree > > > I'm running a newly-installed xfree 4.0.3 and cygwin on top of > Win98. X won't start from either startxwin.bat (within Win98) > or startx (within cygwin). Here is my startxwin.bat: > > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin > XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 > start .\twm > > Here are the error messages: > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines <> - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines <> - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines <> - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines <> - Returning. supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine <> - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustedVideoModeShadowDDNL <> - Command line depth: 32, using depth: 8 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed <> - WindowClient width 800 height 600 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL <> - Masks 00000000 00000000 00000000 RGB 0 d 8 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL <> - Calling miSetVisualTypesAndMasks > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL <> - Returning > 0 [main] XWIN 355809 handle_exceptions: Exception: > STATUS_INTEGER_DIVIDE_BY_ZERO > 1031 [main] XWIN 355809 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to > XWIN.EXE.stackdump > > The X window opens and closes immediately. I could include the > stackdump > if it helps. > > Using startx I get the same, with a different error message: > > 0 [main] X 353093 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to > XWIN.EXE.stackdump > > > thanks, > brooks > bkr@lmtgtm.org From bkr@lmtsun.astro.umass.edu Fri Jun 8 17:24:00 2001 From: bkr@lmtsun.astro.umass.edu (Brooks Rownd) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: error starting xfree Message-ID: <200106090022.UAA28145@lmtsun.astro.umass.edu> >Your windows is set to 8 bps... Indeed...somehow 8bit==256 didn't register in the brain. vtwm compiles, and now I have xterms. Cygwin saves me from Windows inprisonment again! Time to install nethack... thanks, brooks (hooray!) From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Fri Jun 8 22:05:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 22:05:00 -0000 Subject: Backticks in 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CA8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15137.44675.776347.874796@joplin.Colorado.EDU> The case of the spontaneous backticks is solved. The problem was indeed due to the type of keyboard. (Silitek ergonomic keyboard is what they call it.) Dell's support site carries a "knowledge base" article that describes how to perform a software upgrade to solve the problem, and a program (SILKB-SP.EXE) that one has to download. Now the backticks are gone, and on top of that, I also solved a long-standing problem with the monitor not turning itself off after a period of inactivity if the timeout was set to more than 1 minute. >> Here is some iteresting info. >> >> I switched to a different keyboard, and the problem went away. >> Unclear whether I have a faulty keyboard, or whether my keyboard >> generates events that are misrepresented by xfree. >> [snip] >> >> For the record, the "noisy" keyboard is a Dell natural keyboard from >> 1998. The one I swapped for it is a MS natural keyboard, unknown >> vintage, but probably a bit older. Thanks for all the help! Fabio From mirko.luedde@cellcontrol.de Sat Jun 9 06:34:00 2001 From: mirko.luedde@cellcontrol.de (Lüdde Mirko) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 06:34:00 -0000 Subject: help: keymap Message-ID: <7BF41FD66BAFD311B45E0050DA7C9BE3063313@CELLCON01> Hi, could someone please help me on how to tell the XFree86 Server (on cygwin/MS) that I use a german keyboard? I don't know how to use the XWin options `-xkbdb' and `-xkbmap' and the keymap file `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap', but it looks like I'm interested in the `xkb_keymap "de"' entry in this file. Thanks, Mirko. -- Dr. M. Luedde CellControl Biomedical Laboratories AG Am Klopferspitz 19, 82152 Martinsried +49-89-895275-0 +49-179-5252064 From pmilea@oo.net Sat Jun 9 07:44:00 2001 From: pmilea@oo.net (pmilea@oo.net) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 07:44:00 -0000 Subject: Win 95 licenses and MIB software needed ! Message-ID: <62de2d309ff634758788ee7fdde16441@NO-ID-FOUND.mhonarc.org> To unsubscribe simply type "remove" without the quotes in the subject line of your return email and send Dear Sir or Madam, I have a client looking for MIB software for a NEC NEAX 61E switch.I could use a copy or an original .If you have the software that I need I could make a sale quickly .Please email pricing and details or feel free to call or fax information or questions. Many of the NEC Neax 61E were available in India .Any MIB made for NEC Neax 61 E would be after market and not designed or sold by NEC. This is what we are looking for. We want to interface with our present management software ,which is Vertel TMN Manager .The MIB will interface the Vertel TMN Manager with the NEC Neax 61 E . There is a large market of these and we need to find one .Can you help ? ALSO *** I am in need of 20,000 Windows 95 licenses, no CD, They must be valid European licenses.I have a client that has the cash in hand for this purchase. ***IMPORTANT If you know of anyone who may have either of these items, please feel free to forward this email to them .I would pay a finders fee if I used your source. *** THERE IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED FOR THESE PRODUCTS. PLEASE CALL IF YOU HAVE THEM OR CAN HELP LOCATE IT !!! Regards,Paul J. Milea jr. Wing N' A Prayer Telecommunications 3504 James Street Syracuse,New York ,USA 13206 ph.315 374 1560 fax 315 463 4337 > From pmilea@oo.net Sat Jun 9 08:05:00 2001 From: pmilea@oo.net (pmilea@oo.net) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: Win 95 licenses and MIB software needed ! Message-ID: To unsubscribe simply type "remove" without the quotes in the subject line of your return email and send Dear Sir or Madam, I have a client looking for MIB software for a NEC NEAX 61E switch.I could use a copy or an original .If you have the software that I need I could make a sale quickly .Please email pricing and details or feel free to call or fax information or questions. Many of the NEC Neax 61E were available in India .Any MIB made for NEC Neax 61 E would be after market and not designed or sold by NEC. This is what we are looking for. We want to interface with our present management software ,which is Vertel TMN Manager .The MIB will interface the Vertel TMN Manager with the NEC Neax 61 E . There is a large market of these and we need to find one .Can you help ? ALSO *** I am in need of 20,000 Windows 95 licenses, no CD, They must be valid European licenses.I have a client that has the cash in hand for this purchase. ***IMPORTANT If you know of anyone who may have either of these items, please feel free to forward this email to them .I would pay a finders fee if I used your source. *** THERE IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED FOR THESE PRODUCTS. PLEASE CALL IF YOU HAVE THEM OR CAN HELP LOCATE IT !!! Regards,Paul J. Milea jr. Wing N' A Prayer Telecommunications 3504 James Street Syracuse,New York ,USA 13206 ph.315 374 1560 fax 315 463 4337 > From george.wakileh@vol.at Sat Jun 9 12:33:00 2001 From: george.wakileh@vol.at (George J. Wakileh) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 12:33:00 -0000 Subject: help: keymap Message-ID: <01C0F12B.DF434770@george.wakileh@vol.at> : could someone please help me on how to tell the XFree86 Server (on cygwin/MS) that I use a german keyboard? In .xinitrc, I have xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap I am attaching the .Xmodmap I use, which is German. George .Xmodmap From impac-tec@uol.com.br Sat Jun 9 22:08:00 2001 From: impac-tec@uol.com.br (impac-tec) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 22:08:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Me user help Message-ID: <001801c0f16b$4fa85340$6401a8c0@papai> Hello I would like to use Cygwin anx Xfree86 to acesss my Linux computer, and using then on my second computer running windows. The step-by-step instruction is great for the cygwin and xfree86 install, but after the install step I don't found too much information on how to configure Xfre86 and also to connect to a remote linux on the same step-by-step way. I follow all installation procedures step by step, of cgiwin and apparently cygwin is running well ( I don't know exactly how to test, but all b2zip and tar command to opens Xfrre86 works as prewied). After that I try to run startxwin , and the system tell-me that a cygwin1.dll cannot be found, I put a dos patch to the directory where this dll are , and the message does not occur any more. After that I try again to start the startxwin but nothing happen. After that I try to change startxwin for the following @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 start /B twm At this time a graphic screen similar to when xfre86 is initialing appear on my windows And another window called xwin appear with the following message winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list My question is, what am I doing wrong? How can I know that my xfree86 installation is running, have any test program ? I need to do some thing on the Linux Machine to have access to her Xterminal via my window computer? Thanks in advance Saci From cgf@redhat.com Sun Jun 10 09:15:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:15:00 -0000 Subject: CTRL+C problem References: <20010607105529.C1376@valinux.com> <008701c0ef38$39085bb0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010607113008.E1376@valinux.com> <00ba01c0ef3c$e8f461a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010610121529.D5292@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:30:43PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alan Hourihane" >> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:57:10PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >> > That's weird. Info gathering time: >> > I presume you started X after the xygwin shell, or before? Are you >using >> > rxvt-win32 for the cygwin shell, or cmd.exe? What .dll version are >you >> > running? >> > > >And your dll version? > >> Start cygwin shell (cmd.exe). >> Start X (in background) from cmd.exe >> Start an xterm (in background) from cmd.exe >> >> > I'd suggest building from CVS and seeing if that helps. >> > >> Bit difficult at the moment. > >Ahh. Well try a snapshot - the 4th June snapshot should be recent >enough. [cgf - If you have time could you kick off another snapshot ... >the thread fix is likely a show stopper for threads users..] I was out of town this week. The snapshot is there now, though. cgf From chicken@dodgykebab.com Sun Jun 10 09:28:00 2001 From: chicken@dodgykebab.com (Ben Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:28:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 Running Problems Message-ID: I install cygwin a while ago under structure c:\unix instead of c:\cygwin that the user manual recommends, however, when I try starting the XWin program I get the error message, Fatal server error: Could not open default font 'fixed' I have got a normal setup username as "default", I not quite sure what I need to do to get it working, any suggestions. regards Ben From jasonday@mediaone.net Sun Jun 10 09:37:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:37:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010610122756.A5048@spiderman.cherlon.com> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:03:06PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > Do you some firewall or VPN software installed? I do have a VPN client installed, but I only use it occasionally. I get the same message whether the VPN client is running or not. I can telnet to port 6000 on localhost, though... I'll try and find another w2k box without the VPN client on Monday. Jason > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- [snip] -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From jasonday@mediaone.net Sun Jun 10 09:39:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:39:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010610122936.B5048@spiderman.cherlon.com> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 11:20:39PM +0200, Andrew Markebo wrote: > Just a thought.. doesn't the xterm seem to report error _BEFORE_ the > X-server is up and running?? > > Try to add a 'pause' in the batch-file, before starting the xterm, > pressing enter in that window when the x-server is up and running? That doesn't help. After the server is up, I've tried starting twm and xterm, and get the same message. Jason > > /Andy > > [...] > > | > Same results: > | > ----- > | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>startxwin > | > Path not found - C:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > | > The system cannot find the file specified. > | > The system cannot find the file specified. > | > > | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > | > 127.0.0.1:0.0 > | > twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f > | > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > | > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth > | > of 16 bits per > | > pix > | > el > | > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 > | > height 768 > | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > | > 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > | > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > | > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > | > Could not init font path element > | > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > | > from li > | > st! > | > ----- > | > > | > At this point, however, the server is running, and I can > | > telnet to one of > | > our Solaris boxes, set the DISPLAY to the ip of my box, open > | > an xterm, and > | > the xterm pops up in my server. It's just local clients that > | > don't work. > | > > | > I haven't tried running local clients on a remote display, but that > | > apparently doesn't work either: > | > > | http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02046.html > | > | Jason > | > > | > Thanks, > | > > | > Harold > | > | -- > | Jason Day jasonday at > | http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net > | > | "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." > | -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 10 09:40:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:40:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 Running Problems Message-ID: Ben, > Fatal server error: > Could not open default font 'fixed' Here's an answer to that question: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-fon t-eof Harold From jasonday@mediaone.net Sun Jun 10 09:40:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:40:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010610123037.C5048@spiderman.cherlon.com> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:47:01PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > X-server gray window displays,. > > Can you try from a Cygwin bash shell, after you start Xserver? > > cd /usr/X11R6/bin > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > ./xterm -e bash& I've tried this from a command prompt, but not a bash prompt. I'll give that a try on Monday when I get back to work. Thanks, Jason > > Suhaib > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrew Markebo [ mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org ] > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 5:21 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: Re: Xclients don't work in win2K > > > > > > Just a thought.. doesn't the xterm seem to report error _BEFORE_ the > > X-server is up and running?? > > > > Try to add a 'pause' in the batch-file, before starting the xterm, > > pressing enter in that window when the x-server is up and running? > > > > /Andy > > > > [...] > > > > | > Same results: > > | > ----- > > | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>startxwin > > | > Path not found - C:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > > | > The system cannot find the file specified. > > | > The system cannot find the file specified. > > | > > > | > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > > | > 127.0.0.1:0.0 > > | > twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" > > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > | > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported > > engines 0000000f > > | > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > | > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth > > | > of 16 bits per > > | > pix > > | > el > > | > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 > > | > height 768 > > | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > > | > 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > > | > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > | > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > | > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > | > Could not init font path element > > | > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > > | > from li > > | > st! > > | > ----- > > | > > > | > At this point, however, the server is running, and I can > > | > telnet to one of > > | > our Solaris boxes, set the DISPLAY to the ip of my box, open > > | > an xterm, and > > | > the xterm pops up in my server. It's just local clients that > > | > don't work. > > | > > > | > I haven't tried running local clients on a remote > > display, but that > > | > apparently doesn't work either: > > | > > > | http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02046.html > > | > > | Jason > > | > > > | > Thanks, > > | > > > | > Harold > > | > > | -- > > | Jason Day jasonday at > > | http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net > > | > > | "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." > > | -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 > > -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From brave_buzz@yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 10:13:00 2001 From: brave_buzz@yahoo.com (brave buzz) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:13:00 -0000 Subject: xfree86 starting problem Message-ID: <20010610171326.56197.qmail@web9703.mail.yahoo.com> Hi! I installed the recent version of cygwin and xfree86 under d:\cygwin_install. But when I start the bat file for xfree86, I get the error that "libz.dll not found" although I've included the path d:\cygwin_install\lib in PATH. I can see the file libz.dll.a in this dir. Here is the error o/p Path not found - d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 Path not found Invalid path, not directory, or directory not empty Cannot find file 'XWin' (or one of its components). Check to ensure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. Invalid switch - /B Invalid switch - /B Invalid switch - /B Invalid switch - /B Here is a part of the bat file: @echo off SET DISPLAY=24.254.17.64:0.0 SET PATH=.;d:\cygwin_install\bin;d:\cygwin_install\usr\X11R6\bin;d:\cygwin_install\lib;%PATH% REM SET XFCE_DATA=d:\cygwin_install\usr\X11R6\var; xfce rem cleanup after last run attrib -s d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 del d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 rmdir d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix REM *********THIS PART COMMENTED OUT. IF YOU WANT TO USE NOHUP, UNCOMMENT EVERYTHING AND COMMENT OUT START BELOW******** REM \Cygwin\bin\bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/bin/bash -c 'xwin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4'&""&" REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './xterm -sb -sl 2048 -font 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './mxterm -sb -sl 2048 -font 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './rxvt -fn 7x13bold -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './xfwm' &""&" REM ***************** TO USE WINDOWS START COMMAND********************* start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 start /B rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e bash start /B xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash start /B mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash How do I solve this problem? Thanks in advance!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From osegu@iitk.ac.in Sun Jun 10 10:50:00 2001 From: osegu@iitk.ac.in (A Sengupta) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:50:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! Message-ID: Sir: I have installed cygwin-xfree carefully following the instructions given and have installed xfree86 from the binaries as directed. However on trying to run startxwin.bat I get the error "A required .DLL file, LIBZ.DLL, was not found". In fact all the .exe files in c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin have this problem with respect to some .DLL file; for most of them it is cygwin1.dll. What is wrong? Thank you for your reply. A. Sengupta. **************************************************************************** A. Sengupta, Professor ** E-Mail: osegu@iitk.ac.in Department of Mechanical Engineering ** Tel: 091-0512-597035 (O) Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur ** -598705 (H) Kanpur 208016, India. ** Fax: 091-0512-597408/590007 ** http://home.iitk.ac.in/~osegu **************************************************************************** From chicken@dodgykebab.com Sun Jun 10 11:06:00 2001 From: chicken@dodgykebab.com (Ben Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:06:00 -0000 Subject: X Clients Message-ID: Ok, I get the x server started using the batch file. I get errors saying that /B is invalid, so it doesn't seem to start a window manager, I tried the nohup version, not much luck, I probably haven't set up something correctly regards Ben From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 10 11:44:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:44:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Me user help Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CEC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Your window is set to 8bps display. This has been discussed several times on the list. You need to change your windows display to match the resolution you want to use for xwin. For now 8 bps is buggy in 4.1.0 released binary version. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: impac-tec [ mailto:impac-tec@uol.com.br ] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:08 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Windows Me user help > > Hello > > I would like to use Cygwin anx Xfree86 to acesss my Linux computer, and > using then on my second computer running windows. > > The step-by-step instruction is great for the cygwin and xfree86 install, > but after the install step I don't found too much information on how to > configure Xfre86 and also to connect to a remote linux on the same > step-by-step way. > > I follow all installation procedures step by step, of cgiwin and > apparently > cygwin is running well ( I don't know exactly how to test, but all b2zip > and > tar command to opens Xfrre86 works as prewied). > > After that I try to run startxwin , and the system tell-me that a > cygwin1.dll cannot be found, I put a dos patch to the directory where > this > dll are , and the message does not occur any more. > > After that I try again to start the startxwin but nothing happen. > > After that I try to change startxwin for the following > > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin > start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 > start /B twm > > At this time a graphic screen similar to when xfre86 is initialing appear > on > my windows > > And another window called xwin appear with the following message > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d 32 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > from list > > > My question is, what am I doing wrong? > > How can I know that my xfree86 installation is running, have any test > program ? > > I need to do some thing on the Linux Machine to have access to her > Xterminal > via my window computer? > > Thanks in advance > > Saci > > > > From flognat@flognat.myip.org Sun Jun 10 11:49:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:49:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CE1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <20010610122756.A5048@spiderman.cherlon.com> Message-ID: / Jason Day wrote: | On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:03:06PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: | > | > Do you some firewall or VPN software installed? | | I do have a VPN client installed, but I only use it occasionally. I get the | same message whether the VPN client is running or not. I can telnet to port | 6000 on localhost, though... Which VPN client? /Andy From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 10 11:52:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: Mail list address problem (FW: Returned mail: see transcript for details) Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CEF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Sometimes I get mails fromlist with a Reply to filed as xfree@xfree.cygwin.com, when I hit a Reply button and send a reply the message bounces back with User User Unkown, error. I wonder then how the message was posted at first time? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [ mailto:MAILER- > DAEMON@inspire.inspirepharm.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 2:56 PM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > The original message was received at Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:55:44 -0400 > from [10.0.0.81] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts > (#5.7.1)) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to xfree.cygwin.com.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown -------------- next part -------------- Reporting-MTA: dns; inspire.inspirepharm.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; [10.0.0.81] Arrival-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:55:44 -0400 Final-Recipient: RFC822; cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: DNS; xfree.cygwin.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:55:44 -0400 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 10 11:55:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:55:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Day [ mailto:jasonday@mediaone.net ] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:28 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: Xclients don't work in win2K > > On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:03:06PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > Do you some firewall or VPN software installed? > > I do have a VPN client installed, but I only use it occasionally. I get > the > same message whether the VPN client is running or not. I can telnet to > port > 6000 on localhost, though... ALL the VPN modify your winsock and tcp/ip. It does not matter you run it or not, it is not the original Winsock and TCP/IP which was shipped with Windows. I use CheckPoint SecureRemote VPN to connect to my company network and I have not problems with it. Which VPN are you using? If you are willing try uninstalling VPN software to restore the Winsock and TCP/IP stack to original and then test. Suhaib > > I'll try and find another w2k box without the VPN client on Monday. > > Jason > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > [snip] > -- > Jason Day jasonday at > http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net > > "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." > -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 10 11:58:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:58:00 -0000 Subject: xfree86 starting problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: brave buzz [ mailto:brave_buzz@yahoo.com ] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:13 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: xfree86 starting problem > > > Hi! I installed the recent version of cygwin and > xfree86 under d:\cygwin_install. > But when I start the bat file for xfree86, I get the > error that "libz.dll not found" although I've included > the path d:\cygwin_install\lib in PATH. I can see the > file libz.dll.a in this dir. > libz.dll.a a import library. You need to include bin directory to PATh. /B switches are not supported on Windows9x/ME by Microsoft, complaint o them or edit startxwin.bat and remove /B. Most of your answers are in FAQ and maillits if you want to search. Suhaib > > Here is the error o/p > Path not found - d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > Path not found > Invalid path, not directory, > or directory not empty > Cannot find file 'XWin' (or one of its components). > Check to > ensure the path and filename are correct and that all > required > libraries are available. > Invalid switch - /B > Invalid switch - /B > Invalid switch - /B > Invalid switch - /B > > > Here is a part of the bat file: > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=24.254.17.64:0.0 > SET > PATH=.;d:\cygwin_install\bin;d:\cygwin_install\usr\X11R6\bin;d:\cygwin_ins > tall\lib;%PATH% > > REM SET XFCE_DATA=d:\cygwin_install\usr\X11R6\var; > xfce > > rem cleanup after last run > attrib -s d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > del d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > rmdir d:\cygwin_install\tmp\.X11-unix > > > > REM *********THIS PART COMMENTED OUT. IF YOU WANT TO > USE NOHUP, UNCOMMENT EVERYTHING AND COMMENT OUT START > BELOW******** > REM \Cygwin\bin\bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash > -c ""/bin/bash -c 'xwin -screen 0 1024x768x32 > -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4'&""&" > > REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c > ""/usr/bin/bash -c './xterm -sb -sl 2048 -font > 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & > REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c > ""/usr/bin/bash -c './mxterm -sb -sl 2048 -font > 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & > REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c > ""/usr/bin/bash -c './rxvt -fn 7x13bold -e > /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & > REM bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c > ""/usr/bin/bash -c './xfwm' &""&" > > > REM ***************** TO USE WINDOWS START > COMMAND********************* > > start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 > -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 > > > start /B rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e bash > start /B xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg > yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash > start /B mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg > yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash > > > > How do I solve this problem? Thanks in advance!! > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 10 12:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:01:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> The place from you downloaded you must a seen a libz.dll.bz2 file? Bunzip2 and put it in /usr/X11R6/bin Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: A Sengupta [ mailto:osegu@iitk.ac.in ] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:50 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! > > > Sir: I have installed cygwin-xfree carefully following the > instructions given and have installed xfree86 from the binaries as > directed. However on trying to run startxwin.bat I get the error "A > required .DLL file, LIBZ.DLL, was not found". In fact all the .exe files > in c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin have this problem with respect to some .DLL > file; for most of them it is cygwin1.dll. What is wrong? > Thank you for your reply. > > A. Sengupta. > > ************************************************************************** > ** > A. Sengupta, Professor ** E-Mail: osegu@iitk.ac.in > Department of Mechanical Engineering ** Tel: 091-0512-597035 (O) > Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur ** -598705 (H) > Kanpur 208016, India. ** Fax: 091-0512-597408/590007 > ** > http://home.iitk.ac.in/~osegu > ************************************************************************** > ** From flognat@flognat.myip.org Sun Jun 10 13:21:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:21:00 -0000 Subject: xfree86 starting problem References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: | /B switches are not supported on Windows9x/ME by Microsoft, complaint o them | or edit startxwin.bat and remove /B. | Most of your answers are in FAQ and maillits if you want to search. Maybe something to put in a small note in the startxwin.bat file :-) Or simply add the lines echo "Have your read the documentation?" exit at the beginning of the .bat-file?? And under those a rem-statement "comment out the lines above when you have read..." :-) /Andy From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Sun Jun 10 16:45:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:45:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts Message-ID: <15140.1678.614105.660963@joplin.Colorado.EDU> I have the following problem when running Piere Humblet's cygwin port of xfig under 4.1.0. Text is only diplayed if the font size is one of the following sizes: 10, 12, 14, 18, 24 This happens for both postscript and latex fonts. These sizes are indeed the font sizes for which pcf files exist in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts. The linux boxes I have access to have the same sizes, but they appear to be able to scale the fonts. Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how to solve it? (I cannot use the remote Linux box as font server because the service is disabled.) Thanks Fabio From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 10 17:19:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:19:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You can use xfs under Cygwin too. The man pages of "docs" (docs are insatlled as html pages under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc) will give you info on how to do it. > I have the following problem when running Piere Humblet's cygwin port > of xfig under 4.1.0. > > Text is only diplayed if the font size is one of the following sizes: > > 10, 12, 14, 18, 24 > > This happens for both postscript and latex fonts. > > These sizes are indeed the font sizes for which pcf files exist in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts. > > The linux boxes I have access to have the same sizes, but they appear > to be able to scale the fonts. > > Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how to solve it? Fonts are same as under Linux. You can also copy any fonts from Linux and install them under /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts and add them to your path. Suhaib > > (I cannot use the remote Linux box as font server because the service > is disabled.) > > > Thanks > > > Fabio From cedric.bompart@morse.com Mon Jun 11 01:32:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 01:32:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714B7@EXCHANGE1> could you please redirect me to the right thread for the NT lock problem, pls? (I searched on the mail-archives and I can't find it...) Thx. Ced. -----Original Message----- From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] Sent: 08 June 2001 11:54 To: 'Cedric Bompart'; 'Xfree (E-mail)' Subject: RE: lock NT station > Hi, > > If I lock/un-lock my NT station, the xfree server doesn't > response any more > (keyboard)... > > and have you succeed to compile GLIB/GTK+ 1.2.10? I need it > to compile the > latest version of xfce (3.8.3). > I receive this for the glib compilation: search mail archive please. Someone else has done it. We do not target anything else except XFree86. If you or anyone else wants to contribute GLIB/GTK, I will be happy to put it in "contrib" directory. Suhaib > > make[2]: Entering directory `/glib-1.2.10' > /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. > -DG_LOG_DOMAIN= > g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. > -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 > -Wall -D > _REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c -o gstrfuncs.o > gstrfuncs.c: In function `g_strsignal': > gstrfuncs.c:706: conflicting types for `strsignal' > /usr/include/string.h:70: previous declaration of `strsignal' > gstrfuncs.c:706: warning: extern declaration of `strsignal' > doesn't match > global > one > make[2]: *** [gstrfuncs.lo] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > > Thx. > Ced. > > -- > Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae > tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 > email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk > > This email and any attachments are confidential and are > intended only for > the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email and have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by > reply email > and then delete it from your system. > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 11 03:59:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:59:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I was refering to XFCE compilation, not NT lock and unlock problem. Sorry. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cedric Bompart [ mailto:cedric.bompart@morse.com ] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:33 AM > To: 'Xfree (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: lock NT station > > > could you please redirect me to the right thread for the NT > lock problem, > pls? (I searched on the mail-archives and I can't find it...) > > Thx. > Ced. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: 08 June 2001 11:54 > To: 'Cedric Bompart'; 'Xfree (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: lock NT station > > > > > Hi, > > > > If I lock/un-lock my NT station, the xfree server doesn't > > response any more > > (keyboard)... > > > > and have you succeed to compile GLIB/GTK+ 1.2.10? I need it > > to compile the > > latest version of xfce (3.8.3). > > I receive this for the glib compilation: > > search mail archive please. Someone else has done it. We do > not target > anything > else except XFree86. If you or anyone else wants to > contribute GLIB/GTK, I > will > be happy to put it in "contrib" directory. > > Suhaib > > > > > make[2]: Entering directory `/glib-1.2.10' > > /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. > > -DG_LOG_DOMAIN= > > g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c > > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. > > -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=g_log_domain_glib -g -O2 > > -Wall -D > > _REENTRANT -c gstrfuncs.c -o gstrfuncs.o > > gstrfuncs.c: In function `g_strsignal': > > gstrfuncs.c:706: conflicting types for `strsignal' > > /usr/include/string.h:70: previous declaration of `strsignal' > > gstrfuncs.c:706: warning: extern declaration of `strsignal' > > doesn't match > > global > > one > > make[2]: *** [gstrfuncs.lo] Error 1 > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/glib-1.2.10' > > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > > > > > Thx. > > Ced. > > > > -- > > Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae > > tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 > > email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk > > > > This email and any attachments are confidential and are > > intended only for > > the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this > > email and have > > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by > > reply email > > and then delete it from your system. > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 11 04:04:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: Font problems Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Were they Xfree86 fonts? If not, you cannot do that. Can you not use font server from Solaris? Suhaib Please post to list. Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com > [ mailto:andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com ] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:46 AM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: RE: Font problems > > > Thanks, > I just copied the fonts from Solaris. > When I am starting "Telelogic tau" (our tool) the > X-server dies. Are there any logs I can look at ? > > Cheers, > Andreas > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: den 8 juni 2001 23:48 > To: 'andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: Font problems > > > > Can you not use font and use fonts from Solaris? > > Suhaib. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com > > [ mailto:andreas.nyberg@telelogic.com ] > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:16 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Font problems > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am using my cygwin/XFree X-server to do a XDMCP connection > > to a Sun Solaris server. Applications using the -df-interface* fonts > > will not find the fonts. I have tried do set up a fonts.alias > > file, but > > I can't get it to work. > > > > I would really appreciate some help, > > thanks, > > Andreas > > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Jun 11 04:04:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <012901c0f266$56bc9780$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Xfree (E-mail)'" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: RE: lock NT station > I was refering to XFCE compilation, not NT lock and unlock problem. Sorry. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cedric Bompart [ mailto:cedric.bompart@morse.com ] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:33 AM > > To: 'Xfree (E-mail)' > > Subject: RE: lock NT station > > > > > > could you please redirect me to the right thread for the NT > > lock problem, > > pls? (I searched on the mail-archives and I can't find it...) > > > > Thx. > > Ced. > > Ced, If you alt tab out of and back into the X-Server, does that help? Rob From osegu@iitk.ac.in Mon Jun 11 04:31:00 2001 From: osegu@iitk.ac.in (A Sengupta) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:31:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! (fwd) Message-ID: Sir: Further to my mail of last night (reproduced below), I have now downloaded, unzipped and untarred X403src-1(and 2).tar.bz2 to the directory xc in c:\cygwin. I find that the usual ./configure etc does not work here. It would be greatly appreciated if you advise me how to install. Thank you very much. A. Sengupta. *************************************************************************** A. Sengupta, Professor ** E-Mail: osegu@iitk.ac.in Department of Mechanical Engineering ** Tel: 091-0512-597035 (O) Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur ** -598705 (H) Kanpur 208016, India. ** Fax: 091-0512-597408/590007 ** http://home.iitk.ac.in/~osegu **************************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:20:12 +0530 (IST) From: A Sengupta To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! Sir: I have installed cygwin-xfree carefully following the instructions given and have installed xfree86 from the binaries as directed. However on trying to run startxwin.bat I get the error "A required .DLL file, LIBZ.DLL, was not found". In fact all the .exe files in c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin have this problem with respect to some .DLL file; for most of them it is cygwin1.dll. What is wrong? Thank you for your reply. A. Sengupta. **************************************************************************** A. Sengupta, Professor ** E-Mail: osegu@iitk.ac.in Department of Mechanical Engineering ** Tel: 091-0512-597035 (O) Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur ** -598705 (H) Kanpur 208016, India. ** Fax: 091-0512-597408/590007 ** http://home.iitk.ac.in/~osegu **************************************************************************** From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 11 04:42:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:42:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! (fwd) Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CFA@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: A Sengupta [ mailto:osegu@iitk.ac.in ] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:24 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! (fwd) > > > > Sir: Further to my mail of last night (reproduced below), I have > now downloaded, unzipped and untarred X403src-1(and 2).tar.bz2 to the > directory xc in c:\cygwin. I find that the usual ./configure > etc does not GNU ./configure is not "usual" for X Windows software. Do you mind reading FAQ first at http://xfree86.cygwin.com . Bye Suhaib > work here. It would be greatly appreciated if you advise me how to > install. > Thank you very much. > > > A. Sengupta. > > ************************************************************** > ************* > A. Sengupta, Professor ** E-Mail: > osegu@iitk.ac.in > Department of Mechanical Engineering ** Tel: > 091-0512-597035 (O) > Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur ** > -598705 (H) > Kanpur 208016, India. ** Fax: > 091-0512-597408/590007 > ** > http://home.iitk.ac.in/~osegu > > ************************************************************** > ************** > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:20:12 +0530 (IST) > From: A Sengupta > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: cygwin-xfree does not work!! > > > Sir: I have installed cygwin-xfree carefully following the > instructions given and have installed xfree86 from the binaries as > directed. However on trying to run startxwin.bat I get the error "A > required .DLL file, LIBZ.DLL, was not found". In fact all the > .exe files > in c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin have this problem with respect to some .DLL > file; for most of them it is cygwin1.dll. What is wrong? > Thank you for your reply. > > A. Sengupta. > > ************************************************************** > ************** > A. Sengupta, Professor ** E-Mail: > osegu@iitk.ac.in > Department of Mechanical Engineering ** Tel: > 091-0512-597035 (O) > Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur ** > -598705 (H) > Kanpur 208016, India. ** Fax: > 091-0512-597408/590007 > ** > http://home.iitk.ac.in/~osegu > > ************************************************************** > ************** > > From cedric.bompart@morse.com Mon Jun 11 05:01:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:01:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714BD@EXCHANGE1> Rob, nope same thing, the keyboard is f**** in all my/new xterms... Ced. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Collins [ mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au ] Sent: 11 June 2001 12:05 To: 'Xfree (E-mail)' Subject: Re: lock NT station ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Xfree (E-mail)'" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: RE: lock NT station > I was refering to XFCE compilation, not NT lock and unlock problem. Sorry. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cedric Bompart [ mailto:cedric.bompart@morse.com ] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:33 AM > > To: 'Xfree (E-mail)' > > Subject: RE: lock NT station > > > > > > could you please redirect me to the right thread for the NT > > lock problem, > > pls? (I searched on the mail-archives and I can't find it...) > > > > Thx. > > Ced. > > Ced, If you alt tab out of and back into the X-Server, does that help? Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 11 06:45:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:45:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station Message-ID: Cedric, > nope same thing, the keyboard is f**** in all my/new xterms... The problem here is that Cygwin/XFree86 sees the Alt and Ctrl presses, but it never sees the releases. Upon returning to the server, press and release the Alt key and the Ctrl key once; that sends a signal to the server that the keys have been released, and generally returns your keyboard operation to normal. Harold From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 11 06:51:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:51:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15140.52424.538396.905820@joplin.Colorado.EDU> >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: SS> You can use xfs under Cygwin too. The man pages of "docs" (docs SS> are insatlled as html pages under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc) will SS> give you info on how to do it. I tried to use a local xfs, but so far I've failed. Here is what I do (Windows98, cygwin 1.3.2, 4.1.0): I start xfs from bash in one of these two ways: xfs -config /etc/X11/fs/config & xfs -config /etc/X11/fs/config -daemon The only difference I have observed is that with the first form xfs reports that it is listening on port 7100. The second form is silent, but it seems to be doing the same. The configuration file is the one that comes with the binary 4.0.3 distribution. I also tried a stripped-down version with just the 75dpi fonts in the catalogue, but it made no difference. Once xfs is running, I start XWin with the line: XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -fp tcp/localhost:7100 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 & This causes xfs to crash. XWin reports that it cannot initialize the given element of the font path, then says it cannot find the fixed font, and gives up the ghost. I have also tried to omit "-fp tcp/localhost:7100" from the invocation of XWin. In this case XWin starts normally. However, if I try xset +fp tcp/localhost:7100 or xfsinfo -server localhost:7100 xfs crashes and the command fails. I have also tried to start xfs after XWin, but it has made no difference. Is there any obvious (or not so obvious) mistake in what I'm doing? Any suggestion for what to try next? Thanks Fabio This is the xfs config file. The directories in catalogue exist and seem correctly populated. /var/log/fs-errors exists and either is empty, or contains a failure message saying that xfs is about to do a stack dump. # font server configuration file # $Xorg: config.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:19 cpqbld Exp $ clone-self = on use-syslog = off catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ error-file = /var/log/fs-errors # in decipoints default-point-size = 120 default-resolutions = 75,75,100,100 # font cache control, specified in KB cache-hi-mark = 2048 cache-low-mark = 1433 cache-balance = 70 >> I have the following problem when running Piere Humblet's cygwin port >> of xfig under 4.1.0. >> >> Text is only diplayed if the font size is one of the following sizes: >> >> 10, 12, 14, 18, 24 >> >> This happens for both postscript and latex fonts. >> >> These sizes are indeed the font sizes for which pcf files exist in >> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts. >> >> The linux boxes I have access to have the same sizes, but they appear >> to be able to scale the fonts. >> >> Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how to solve it? SS> Fonts are same as under Linux. You can also copy any fonts from Linux and SS> install them under /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts and add them to your path. SS> Suhaib >> >> (I cannot use the remote Linux box as font server because the service >> is disabled.) >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Fabio From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 11 08:01:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:01:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15140.56653.286776.699974@joplin.Colorado.EDU> >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: >> The linux boxes I have access to have the same sizes, but they appear >> to be able to scale the fonts. SS> Fonts are same as under Linux. You can also copy any fonts from SS> Linux and install them under /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts and add them to SS> your path. I do already have in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts the fonts that I could get from Linux. Am I missing somethinkg here? Another detail. I reported having this font problem when running the cygwin port of xfig, but I have also if I run xfig on a remote linux machine. (Running xfig locally on the linux machine works.) Thanks Fabio From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 11 10:13:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:13:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D05@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:02 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Cc: 'Fabio@Colorado.EDU' > Subject: RE: Xfig and Scalable Fonts > > > >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > >> The linux boxes I have access to have the same sizes, but > they appear > >> to be able to scale the fonts. > > SS> Fonts are same as under Linux. You can also copy any fonts from > SS> Linux and install them under /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts and add them to > SS> your path. > > I do already have in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts the fonts that I could > get from Linux. Am I missing somethinkg here? > > Another detail. I reported having this font problem when running the > cygwin port of xfig, but I have also if I run xfig on a remote linux > machine. (Running xfig locally on the linux machine works.) > > Could it be Xfig port problem? Pierre could answer help? Suhaib > Thanks > > > Fabio > From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 11 10:23:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:23:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D05@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15140.65144.277241.892127@joplin.Colorado.EDU> >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: >> Another detail. I reported having this font problem when running the >> cygwin port of xfig, but I have also if I run xfig on a remote linux >> machine. (Running xfig locally on the linux machine works.) SS> Could it be Xfig port problem? Pierre could answer help? Suhaib, Sorry for a somewhat ambiguous statement. What I meant to say is the Pierre's port is not at fault, because I see the same font problem when xfig runs on the linux machine, but the display is on the Windows98 machine running Cygwin/XFree86. Thanks Fabio From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 11 10:34:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:34:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D06@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Fabio This could be add-defaults issue. Have you checked on Linux box in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults if there is app-defaults file for Xfig? Usually Xfif install its own app-defaults file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 when you compile and run "make install". If there a app-defaults file for xfig on Linux you can copy it to Windows, instead of doing a complicaion yourself. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:23 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'Fabio@Colorado.EDU'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: Xfig and Scalable Fonts > > > >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > >> Another detail. I reported having this font problem when > running the > >> cygwin port of xfig, but I have also if I run xfig on a > remote linux > >> machine. (Running xfig locally on the linux machine works.) > > SS> Could it be Xfig port problem? Pierre could answer help? > > Suhaib, > > Sorry for a somewhat ambiguous statement. What I meant to say is the > Pierre's port is not at fault, because I see the same font problem > when xfig runs on the linux machine, but the display is on the > Windows98 machine running Cygwin/XFree86. > > > Thanks > > > Fabio > From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 11 10:48:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:48:00 -0000 Subject: Xfig and Scalable Fonts References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D06@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15141.1113.261635.43507@joplin.Colorado.EDU> >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: SS> Fabio SS> This could be add-defaults issue. Have you checked on Linux box SS> in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults if there is app-defaults file SS> for Xfig? Usually Xfif install its own app-defaults file in SS> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 when you compile and run "make install". If SS> there a app-defaults file for xfig on Linux you can copy it to SS> Windows, instead of doing a complicaion yourself. Suhaib, I have Fig and Fig-color on both machines. When xfig runs on the linux box it reads the defaults from the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults directory on the linux box. Likewise, when it runs on the Windows98 machine, it reads its defaults from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults on the local cygwin installation. (I can tell this from the fact that the two Fig-color's specify different colors.) Fabio From jason.jones@stratech.com Mon Jun 11 11:21:00 2001 From: jason.jones@stratech.com (Jones, Jason) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:21:00 -0000 Subject: Broken Link Message-ID: There's a broken link in the 6th paragraph under the heading "Downloading and Installing": Cygwin has its own installer; you can click the Install Cygwin Now <../setup.exe> link on the Cygwin home page to being installation. Install all Cygwin packages and set your Default Text File Type to 'Unix' when prompted; only deviate from these instructions if you are an expert. the setup.exe can't be found. I'd sure like to install this *grin* -jason From flognat@flognat.myip.org Mon Jun 11 11:27:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:27:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station References: Message-ID: FYI this is a 'feature' of Reflection X too.. I haven't checked this with cygwin-x but Reflection also just sends 'a' if you press control/alt outside the window, move the cursor in, and then press a.. /Andy / "Harold Hunt" wrote: | Cedric, | | > nope same thing, the keyboard is f**** in all my/new xterms... | | The problem here is that Cygwin/XFree86 sees the Alt and Ctrl presses, but | it never sees the releases. Upon returning to the server, press and release | the Alt key and the Ctrl key once; that sends a signal to the server that | the keys have been released, and generally returns your keyboard operation | to normal. | | Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 11 12:21:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:21:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station References: Message-ID: Andrew, > FYI this is a 'feature' of Reflection X too.. > > I haven't checked this with cygwin-x but Reflection also just sends > 'a' if you press control/alt outside the window, move the cursor in, > and then press a.. Yeah, I need to frob the modifier keys when gaining or losing the keyboard focus. Then again, I need to do a lot of things that I haven't gotten to. :) Harold From minman@csli.Stanford.EDU Mon Jun 11 12:53:00 2001 From: minman@csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael Inman) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:53:00 -0000 Subject: out of environment space Message-ID: Dear Suhaib, Many thanks for your help. I added the extra line to my config.sys file, as you suggested, and lo and behold, xfree86 now runs fine. Also, thanks for the pointer to Fabio Somenzi's script. Best, Michael p.s. I really appreciate the efforts of the cygwin/xfree86 developers. It's really great to have x with cygwin. :) > > > In reply to Suhaib Siddiqi's message (below): > > > > > > I'm using 1.3.1 -- I haven't had a chance to install 1.3.2 yet. > > > > > > Anyway, your reply brings up a question that had been > > > puzzling me. You > > > mention cygwin in your reply, but according to the FAQ, one runs > > > startxwin.bat from the "Windows Explorer", i.e., not under > > > cygwin, so it > > > wouldn't matter if I had any version of cygwin on my system, which I > > > never understood. > > > > > > So, maybe I should be running it from cygwin? Can I run .bat files > > > under cygwin? > > > > > phew busy day at work... sorry I did not answer your all the questions. > You cannot run startxwin.bat from a bash shell, but you can use startx > script. > startxwin.bat is for DOS shell. You can also write you own script if > you want for a bash shell.... an example of a good script is from Fabio > Somenzi > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01991.html > > Suhaib > > > > > > > Cygwin/XFree86 is compiled using Cygwin, therefore it uses > > Cygwin1.dll.... > > therefore it matters which version of cygwin are you using :-) > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > Sorry I'm so confused. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > To: "'cygwin-xfree at sources dot redhat dot com'" > > > > > > > Subject: RE: out of environment space > > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:34:59 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which version of Cygwin are you using? The out of env > > > issue was fixed in > > > > Cygwin long time ago? > > > > If you are still getting it with Cygwin 1.3.2, add the > > > following to your > > > > config.sys and reboot > > > > shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p > > > > > > > > If you a very old version of Cygwin, you must upgrade. > > > > > > > > /B is not supported under Windows 9x/ME. It is supported > > > only undet NT/2000 > > > > complain to Microsoft for making DOS shells options > > > incompatible among > > > > different > > > > windows platforms > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > From chicken@dodgykebab.com Mon Jun 11 14:01:00 2001 From: chicken@dodgykebab.com (Ben Swann) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:01:00 -0000 Subject: Documentation Message-ID: Were can I find all documentation on twm, xwin etc so I can configure the look and feel for the window version, as it seems to be all parameters and I can't seem to redirect stdout for the help stuff for these functions. regards Ben From gerrit.haase@t-online.de Mon Jun 11 14:22:00 2001 From: gerrit.haase@t-online.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:22:00 -0000 Subject: Documentation References: Message-ID: <3B2552B2.3422.3A48E8@localhost> Ben Swann schrieb am 2001-06-11, 22:03: > Were can I find all documentation on twm, xwin etc > so I can configure the look and feel for the window version, as it seems > to be all parameters and I can't seem to redirect stdout for the help stuff > for these functions. > > regards > > Ben http://xfree86.cygwin.com http://xfree86.org gph -- =^..^= From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 11 15:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:01:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin mailing list problem (FW: Returned mail: see transcript for details Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D0A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Still NOT SURE why cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com message bounces with User Unkown if I hit a Reply button. How come the message gets posted first time? Suhaib Actually for twm you can find a HTML doc in /usr/lib/X11/doc if you have insatlled xfree86-4.1.0-docs.tar.bz2 Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerrit P. Haase [ mailto:gerrit.haase@t-online.de ] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:22 PM > To: Ben Swann; cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Documentation > > > Ben Swann schrieb am 2001-06-11, 22:03: > > > Were can I find all documentation on twm, xwin etc > > so I can configure the look and feel for the window > version, as it seems > > to be all parameters and I can't seem to redirect stdout > for the help stuff > > for these functions. > > > > regards > > > > Ben > http://xfree86.cygwin.com http://xfree86.org gph -- =^..^= > -----Original Message----- > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > [ mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@inspire.inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:05 PM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > > The original message was received at Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:05:03 -0400 > from [10.0.0.81] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of > allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to xfree.cygwin.com.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed > rcpthosts (#5.7.1) > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > -------------- next part -------------- Reporting-MTA: dns; inspire.inspirepharm.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; [10.0.0.81] Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:05:03 -0400 Final-Recipient: RFC822; cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: DNS; xfree.cygwin.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:05:07 -0400 From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 11 17:26:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:26:00 -0000 Subject: Broken Link Message-ID: Jason, Thanks for the broken link notification. It has just been fixed. However, I think you really wanted to start off with the User's Guide, as that documents, step-by-step, the downloading and installation process. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/howto/cygwin-xfree-ug.html Cheers, Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 11 17:48:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:48:00 -0000 Subject: FW: X11/bitmaps/Stipple Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D0F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> This fixes a typo (perhaps) in xc/programs/bitmaps/bitmap.h Sripple should be Stipple. Suhaib > > I think Sripple should be a Stipple in bitmap.h. It is a typo? > This fixes the typo problem in xc/programs/bitmap/bitmap.h > > > Suhaib > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bitmap-h.diff Type: text/x-diff Size: 641 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jasonday@mediaone.net Mon Jun 11 18:35:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:35:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K - solved References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505CF0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010611212535.A6079@spiderman.cherlon.com> I uninstalled the VPN client, and that did the trick. *sigh* The client is Aventail Connect. Anybody know of a way to make it coexist with X? Thanks, Jason -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Jun 11 18:40:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:40:00 -0000 Subject: Xclients don't work in win2K - solved Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Day [ mailto:jasonday@mediaone.net ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:26 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Xclients don't work in win2K - solved > > > I uninstalled the VPN client, and that did the trick. *sigh* > The client is Aventail Connect. Anybody know of a way to > make it coexist > with X? Nope :]. I don't have Aventail Connect myself, so I can't offer to test :]. But of all the reports of this problem, most were VPN software related, and Aventail Connect was the most often mentioned :]. I'd sugegst you report a bug to Aventail. "I run Xwindows. When I install your product, "Connect" X windows stops working." Rob > Thanks, > Jason > -- > Jason Day jasonday at > http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net > > "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." > -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 > From brave_buzz@yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 22:23:00 2001 From: brave_buzz@yahoo.com (brave buzz) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:23:00 -0000 Subject: xfree display problem Message-ID: <20010612052344.30822.qmail@web9701.mail.yahoo.com> Hi! Although xfree86 seems to work fine for xterm, I find problems when I try to run xmgr remotely(w/ x11 port fwding through ssh2). The xmgr window is corrupted, w/ lots of extra horizontal lines. The errors I get in the xwin window are below, although they may not be the cause of the problem. error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! Anyone have a solution? Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Jun 12 00:49:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:49:00 -0000 Subject: FW: X11/bitmaps/Stipple References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D0F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010612085148.A897@valinux.com> It's only in a comment field anyway, so would never have caused any real problem. Alan. On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:48:03PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > This fixes a typo (perhaps) in xc/programs/bitmaps/bitmap.h > Sripple should be Stipple. > > > Suhaib > > > > > I think Sripple should be a Stipple in bitmap.h. It is a typo? > > This fixes the typo problem in xc/programs/bitmap/bitmap.h > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Tue Jun 12 00:56:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:56:00 -0000 Subject: Problems with Mouse Message-ID: <3B25CB37.2030603@team.owl-online.de> Hi there, cygwin/Xfre is running good for me. I can start KDE from my Linux Server and I have the right german keyboard but my mouse (Logitech cordless Mouse Man Wheel) can????t cut and paste... What????s wrong? -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From cedric.bompart@morse.com Tue Jun 12 01:05:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:05:00 -0000 Subject: lock NT station Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714C1@EXCHANGE1> Thx a lot Harold... :-) -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] Sent: 11 June 2001 14:45 To: cygx Cc: cedric.bompart@morse.com Subject: RE: lock NT station Cedric, > nope same thing, the keyboard is f**** in all my/new xterms... The problem here is that Cygwin/XFree86 sees the Alt and Ctrl presses, but it never sees the releases. Upon returning to the server, press and release the Alt key and the Ctrl key once; that sends a signal to the server that the keys have been released, and generally returns your keyboard operation to normal. Harold From david.soulayrol@ago.fr Tue Jun 12 02:09:00 2001 From: david.soulayrol@ago.fr (David Soulayrol) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:09:00 -0000 Subject: XFree installation and french keyboard Message-ID: <3B25DC21.79DE4837@ago.fr> Hello. I've just installed XFree on top off Cygwin. I noted a little problem while trying to install the XFree-4.0.3-devel package; it didn't want to untar some files (it's a problem of permission i remember). By the way, i don't understand why i have no files under /etc or /etc/X11 ... Did i miss an important package ? I have some links to files under /etc from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/, and nothing (i would like at least some config file like XF86config) under /etc. At last, a true XFree question. I'm french, and so i would like to have a french keyboard layout. I know i can use 'xmodmap', so i included it in startxwin and i found in archives a french map. Thanks. Now, i'd like to launch my server this way ; 'XWin -query machine -from here' This time, i don't know how to fix the keyboard. I found some option named '-xkbmap', but i don't know what argument i must pass to it. Any idea ? Thanks. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 04:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:02:00 -0000 Subject: xfree display problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D11@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Hi! > Although xfree86 seems to work fine for xterm, I find > problems when I try to run xmgr remotely(w/ x11 port > fwding through ssh2). The xmgr window is corrupted, w/ > lots of extra horizontal lines. The errors I get in > the xwin window are below, although they may not be > the cause of the problem. > > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li > st! > These errors are not errors, but warnings and has nothing to do with Xmgr. Your problem is from xmgr, please report to the person who provided you xmgr. Suhaib > > Anyone have a solution? Thanks! > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 04:04:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: Problems with Mouse Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D13@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:57 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Problems with Mouse > > > Hi there, > > cygwin/Xfre is running good for me. I can start KDE from my > Linux Server > and I have the right german keyboard but my mouse (Logitech cordless > Mouse Man Wheel) can????t cut and paste... > What????s wrong? cut and paste with in X or between X and win32? later is not supported yet. Suhaib > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 04:05:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:05:00 -0000 Subject: FW: X11/bitmaps/Stipple Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D12@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> ooops, I guess I must have been sleeping ;-) Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Hourihane [ mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:52 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: FW: X11/bitmaps/Stipple > > > It's only in a comment field anyway, so would never have caused any > real problem. > > Alan. > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:48:03PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > This fixes a typo (perhaps) in xc/programs/bitmaps/bitmap.h > > Sripple should be Stipple. > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > I think Sripple should be a Stipple in bitmap.h. It is a typo? > > > This fixes the typo problem in xc/programs/bitmap/bitmap.h > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Tue Jun 12 05:29:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:29:00 -0000 Subject: xvinfo.1x Message-ID: <15142.2869.861335.67638@joplin.Colorado.EDU> My copy of xvinfo.1x (from 4.1.0) contains a unintended first blank line that causes "man xvinfo" to display lots of blank lines before the real man page. Removing the empty line takes care of the problem. Fabio From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Tue Jun 12 07:00:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:00:00 -0000 Subject: xgc crashes XWin Message-ID: <15142.8318.835614.877429@joplin.Colorado.EDU> The following sequence of events causes XWin to crash on: Windows98, 1.3.2, 4.1.0 1. Start xgc. 2. Set the line width to something greater than 0. (I have tried 1, 2, and 4.) 3. Click on "Run". This is not at all critical for me (I was just trying things in search for inspiration on how to solve my fonts/xfs problem) but I thought I'd report it. BTW, is it normal for "xset q" to take anywhere between 15 and 30 seconds to run, and report the following? Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display "127.0.0.1:0.0". Thanks Fabio From tf@dlc.ku.dk Tue Jun 12 07:23:00 2001 From: tf@dlc.ku.dk (tf@dlc.ku.dk) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:23:00 -0000 Subject: Shell widget - xedit Message-ID: <3B264298.21064.339DBA@localhost> I am using xfree 4.0.3 on a Windows 2000 system. Everything works fine but xedit. When I start xedit I get the following error message Error: Shell widget fileMenu has zero width and/or height Any idea what the problem could be? Thanks, Thomas From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 12 08:07:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:07:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin mailing list problem (FW: Returned mail: see transcript f or details References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D0A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010612110744.K26626@redhat.com> On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 06:01:06PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: >Still NOT SURE why cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com message bounces with User >Unkown if I hit a Reply button. How come the message gets posted first >time? Did I ever announce that cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com was a valid address for the cygwin-xfree mailing list? Where did this come from? You guys really like to keep me busy with sysadmin tasks, don't you? cgf From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Tue Jun 12 09:23:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:23:00 -0000 Subject: xfs under Win98 Message-ID: <15142.16908.421221.463556@joplin.Colorado.EDU> Has anyone managed to get xfs to work under Windows 98? I can start xfs in various ways. If I use the default settings, netstat -a confirms that there is a LISTENING connection of port 7100. If I put "no-listen = tcp" in my configuration file, xfs complies, and can be reached by specifying unix/:7100. I can also change the port number. If I make a syntax error in the configuration file, xfs refuses to run, which suggests that the configuration file is parsed successfully. However, any attemp to connect to xfx cause it to crash: xset +fp unix/:7100 fslsfonts -server unix/:7100 xfsinfo -server unix/:7100 all cause xfs to "dump core." For instance, with "no-listen = tcp": home % xfs -config ./XfsConfig & [1] 472467 home % _FontTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.font-unix should be set to root xfs notice: listening on port 7100 home % xfsinfo -server unix/:7100 FSIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on font server "(null)" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. [1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) xfs -config ./XfsConfig Background: I'm trying to get scaled fonts to work. It appears that XWin by itself does not support font scaling. Rather, it relies on xfs for that. For instance, "xfontsel -scaled" fails to display font sizes for which the font file is not available. So, I'm trying to get xfs to work, but so far the objective has remained beyond my grasp. Thanks Fabio From mwathen@INTERDESIGN.com Tue Jun 12 10:11:00 2001 From: mwathen@INTERDESIGN.com (Metherion Wathen) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:11:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 newbie Message-ID: <745F94811385D111BE6C00A0C996106D399752@ENG-1> Help! I've fallen for Linux and I can't get it up! (and running) I'm an average windows user, fairly comfortable with installing stuff on my computer. ( a little impatient though, didn't read ALL FAQ's before sending this.) anyway, I downloaded the Cygwin/XFree86 binaries and followed the install directions; the bash shell seems to work fine, but when I try to run startxwin or startx I get the error message xterm xt error: can't open display 127.0.0.1:0.0 twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" also a console mode screen scrolls a whole lot of text real fast then shuts down. please help obi-wan, you're our only chance! thanks in advance mcw From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 11:08:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:08:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin mailing list problem (FW: Returned mail: see transcript f or details Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D1F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I think a long time ago someone on his own sent a mail with that address. If I am not wrong, you said that you added it so it might work. Therefore I think many people (NOT ME) started using it. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:08 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cygwin mailing list problem (FW: Returned mail: > see transcript f or details > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 06:01:06PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > >Still NOT SURE why cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com message > bounces with User > >Unkown if I hit a Reply button. How come the message gets > posted first > >time? > > Did I ever announce that cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com was a > valid address > for the cygwin-xfree mailing list? Where did this come from? > > You guys really like to keep me busy with sysadmin tasks, don't you? > > cgf > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 13:59:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:59:00 -0000 Subject: XFree installation and french keyboard Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D21@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> please check http://www.gotti.org for European keyboards Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: David Soulayrol [ mailto:david.soulayrol@ago.fr ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:09 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: XFree installation and french keyboard > > > Hello. > > I've just installed XFree on top off Cygwin. I noted a little problem > while trying to install the XFree-4.0.3-devel package; it > didn't want to > untar some files (it's a problem of permission i remember). > > By the way, i don't understand why i have no files under /etc or > /etc/X11 ... Did i miss an important package ? I have some links to > files under /etc from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/, and nothing (i > would like at > least some config file like XF86config) under /etc. > > At last, a true XFree question. > I'm french, and so i would like to have a french keyboard > layout. I know > i can use 'xmodmap', so i included it in startxwin and i found in > archives a french map. Thanks. > > Now, i'd like to launch my server this way ; > 'XWin -query machine -from here' > > This time, i don't know how to fix the keyboard. I found some option > named '-xkbmap', but i don't know what argument i must pass to it. > > Any idea ? Thanks. > From flognat@flognat.myip.org Tue Jun 12 14:31:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:31:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 newbie References: <745F94811385D111BE6C00A0C996106D399752@ENG-1> Message-ID: Read the source luke.. or something :-) What platform are you on, did you grabb the latest xfree? What OSe's are you running on.. Try to run startxwin.bat from either cmd or command, insert a line containing "pause" after "start XWin -screen[..]" in the batch file.. see if you see any errors here, and see if you get up the 'xwindow' /Andy / Metherion Wathen wrote: | Help! I've fallen for Linux and I can't get it up! (and running) | | I'm an average windows user, fairly comfortable with installing stuff on my | computer. ( a little impatient though, didn't read ALL FAQ's before sending | this.) | anyway, I downloaded the Cygwin/XFree86 binaries and followed the install | directions; the bash shell seems to work fine, but when I try to run | startxwin or startx I get the error message From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 17:08:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:08:00 -0000 Subject: xfs under Win98 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D28@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Well, I need to build a debug version and test myself what is going on? This will take time. Unless someone else has any suggestions? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:24 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: xfs under Win98 > > Has anyone managed to get xfs to work under Windows 98? > > I can start xfs in various ways. If I use the default settings, > netstat -a confirms that there is a LISTENING connection of port 7100. > > If I put "no-listen = tcp" in my configuration file, xfs complies, and > can be reached by specifying unix/:7100. I can also change the port > number. If I make a syntax error in the configuration file, xfs > refuses to run, which suggests that the configuration file is parsed > successfully. > > However, any attemp to connect to xfx cause it to crash: > > xset +fp unix/:7100 > fslsfonts -server unix/:7100 > xfsinfo -server unix/:7100 > > all cause xfs to "dump core." For instance, with "no-listen = tcp": > > home % xfs -config ./XfsConfig & > [1] 472467 > home % _FontTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.font-unix should be set to root > xfs notice: listening on port 7100 > home % xfsinfo -server unix/:7100 > FSIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on font server > "(null)" > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > [1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) xfs -config ./XfsConfig > > > Background: > > I'm trying to get scaled fonts to work. It appears that XWin by > itself does not support font scaling. Rather, it relies on xfs for > that. > > For instance, "xfontsel -scaled" fails to display font sizes for which > the font file is not available. > > So, I'm trying to get xfs to work, but so far the objective has > remained beyond my grasp. > > > Thanks > > > Fabio From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 17:11:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:11:00 -0000 Subject: xgc crashes XWin Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D29@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Fabio Do a xdpyinfo pluease Do you see Xfree86-misc extension or not? Let us know. Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:01 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: xgc crashes XWin > > The following sequence of events causes XWin to crash on: > > Windows98, 1.3.2, 4.1.0 > > > 1. Start xgc. > > 2. Set the line width to something greater than 0. (I have tried 1, > 2, and 4.) > > 3. Click on "Run". > > > This is not at all critical for me (I was just trying things in search > for inspiration on how to solve my fonts/xfs problem) but I thought > I'd report it. > > BTW, is it normal for "xset q" to take anywhere between 15 and 30 > seconds to run, and report the following? > > Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display "127.0.0.1:0.0". > > > Thanks > > > Fabio From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 12 17:26:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:26:00 -0000 Subject: Shell widget - xedit Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D2A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I tested xedit from Xfree86 4.0.1 It works fine for me. Try 4.1.0 release. I do not have 4.0.3 installed any more therefore I cannot test. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: tf@dlc.ku.dk [ mailto:tf@dlc.ku.dk ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:26 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Shell widget - xedit > > I am using xfree 4.0.3 on a Windows 2000 system. Everything > works fine but xedit. When I start xedit I get the following error > message > > Error: Shell widget fileMenu has zero width and/or height > > Any idea what the problem could be? > > Thanks, > Thomas From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 12 19:14:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:14:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin mailing list problem (FW: Returned mail: see transcri pt f or details References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D1F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010612221508.A3449@redhat.com> On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 02:08:14PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: >I think a long time ago someone on his own sent a mail with that address. >If I am not wrong, you said that you added it so it might work. Therefore I >think >many people (NOT ME) started using it. I added an xfree86.cygwin.com alias when someone started using it. I just added an xfree.cygwin.com address as well so hopefully this is no longer an issue. Slowly but surely I'm automating these processes so that it isn't such a big deal to service these kind of requests. I haven't gotten to this particular one yet, though. cgf From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Tue Jun 12 19:23:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:23:00 -0000 Subject: xgc crashes XWin References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D29@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15142.52857.833809.688355@joplin.Colorado.EDU> >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: SS> Fabio SS> Do a xdpyinfo pluease SS> Do you see Xfree86-misc extension or not? SS> Let us know. Thanks Suhaib, I don't see the Xfree86-misc extension. Here is the complete list. number of extensions: 20 BIG-REQUESTS DOUBLE-BUFFER Extended-Visual-Information FontCache GLX LBX MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RECORD RENDER SECURITY SGI-GLX SHAPE SYNC TOG-CUP XC-APPGROUP XC-MISC XFree86-Bigfont XKEYBOARD XTEST XVideo Fabio >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:01 AM >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >> Subject: xgc crashes XWin >> >> The following sequence of events causes XWin to crash on: >> >> Windows98, 1.3.2, 4.1.0 >> >> >> 1. Start xgc. >> >> 2. Set the line width to something greater than 0. (I have tried 1, >> 2, and 4.) >> >> 3. Click on "Run". >> >> >> This is not at all critical for me (I was just trying things in search >> for inspiration on how to solve my fonts/xfs problem) but I thought >> I'd report it. >> >> BTW, is it normal for "xset q" to take anywhere between 15 and 30 >> seconds to run, and report the following? >> >> Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display "127.0.0.1:0.0". >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Fabio From Fabio@Colorado.EDU Tue Jun 12 20:38:00 2001 From: Fabio@Colorado.EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:38:00 -0000 Subject: Shell widget - xedit Message-ID: <15142.57400.55266.153864@joplin.Colorado.EDU> I can confirm that xedit does not work under: Windows98SE, 1.3.2, 4.0.3 but it works for me under Windows98, 1.3.2, 4.1.0 Fabio From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 12 21:37:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:37:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 30 Message-ID: I just posted Test 30 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test30.exe.bz2 (1034 KB) Changes: 1) Send release messages for modifier keys (Alt, Ctrl, and Shift) to the X Server when Cygwin/XFree86 loses the Windows keyboard focus. This fixes the keyboard problems experienced when locking an NT workstation by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del when Cygwin/XFree86 had the keyboard focus. Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 12 22:04:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:04:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Contributer's Guide 0.0.3 Message-ID: Don't let the low version number fool you, this document already has 13 pages of very useful information. Currently, the Contributer's Guide has step-by-step instructions for anyone interested, even with no open source project experience, to build Cygwin/XFree86 on their own and keep their source tree up to date. View the Contributer's Guide and all other Cygwin/XFree86 documentation online at: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/ All documents are available in HTML, PDF, PS, RTF and TXT. Direct link to the documentation source and build system: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/cygwin-xfree-doc-0.0.8.tar.gz Changes 1) Initial project notification of document's existence. See the Change Log for details on previous releases: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/changelog.htm Thanks Alan Hourihane - For answering my questions on how to properly build Cygwin/XFree86 Robert Collins - For his great documentation build system Enjoy, Harold From flognat@flognat.myip.org Wed Jun 13 00:17:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:17:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 30 References: Message-ID: How does it work if you hold shift down and leaves enters the window?? Yeah I know.. I should try but.. :-) /Andy / "Harold Hunt" wrote: | I just posted Test 30 to my server development page: | http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ | | Server binary, direct link: | http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test30.exe.bz2 (1034 KB) | | Changes: | 1) Send release messages for modifier keys (Alt, Ctrl, and Shift) to | the X Server when Cygwin/XFree86 loses the Windows keyboard focus. | This fixes the keyboard problems experienced when locking an NT | workstation by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del when Cygwin/XFree86 had the | keyboard focus. | | Enjoy, | | Harold From mpouchon@hotmail.com Wed Jun 13 01:27:00 2001 From: mpouchon@hotmail.com (Manuel Pouchon) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:27:00 -0000 Subject: Manuel - Support of Win98 ? Message-ID: Hi, I am running ????Windows 98 Second Edition 4.10.2222 A???? on a ????Pentium II????. Cygwin: Latest release (DLL version 1.3.2) My problem has already been addressed by Ryan Hairyes on 24 Feb 2001. When starting the x-server from the cygwin-bash (with startx) the x-server starts with an xterm in it. Unfortunately no windowmanager is activated. The following messages are written to the cygwin-shell _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 16, using depth: 32 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 640 height 480 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy cat: /home/m-pouchon/.Xauthority: No such file or directory cat: /home/m-pouchon/.Xauthority: No such file or directory cat: /home/m-pouchon/.Xauthority: No such file or directory When I do the same by using the DOS-prompt (with startxwin), exactly the same happens except that there is no error message concerning the missing .Xauthority file. I can also get rid of the SecurityPolicy message by creating an xserver ???? folder containing a copy of the SecurityPolicy file (contained in 4.0.3 the distribution). However, this doesn????t help. I know that Windows 98 was not supported when Ryan had the same problem. Does the message ????Cygwin/XFree86's development server has stabilized???? (14. April 2001 in the latest news) mean that it is supported now? First I had installed the 4.0.3 binary files (all of them). After having this problem, I installed the 4.1.0 binary files (all of them), I then found that ????libz.dll???? was missing, I then copied this dll contained in the 4.0.3 distribution to the ..\bin directory and had again the same problem (no windowmanager). Then I installed the 4.0.3 binaries again and tried to overwrite with the 4.1.0 binaries. Maybe this is stupid, I am not good at these things, sorry about that. However none of these combinations worked. Please tell me whether I do something completely wrong. I am quite new to UNIX related problems. I want to use OpenDX on this x-server. Could there be further problems concerning Win98 or any version of the programs I am using? Thank you very much Manuel Manuel Pouchon mpouchon@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com . From pavel.rybnicek@email.cz Wed Jun 13 02:28:00 2001 From: pavel.rybnicek@email.cz (pavel.rybnicek@email.cz) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:28:00 -0000 Subject: Two questions about configuration Message-ID: <3B27324F.000001.04999@www2.email.atc> Hi there I use Cygwin/XFree86 with following options: start XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -engine 4 -blackpixel 0 -whitepixel 255 -kb -query myAIXmachine -fp tcp/myFontServer:portNumber to connext AIX machine with CDE. My monitor uses 90Hz refresh rate. When I use -fullscreen option, monitor is switched to 85Hz - is there any way to provide refresh rate to Cygwin/XFree? When I use VisualAge C++ environment, some of mouse cursors are displayed as black rectangles - probably incorrect colors setting, 'cause sometimes I'm able to see light shape of the cursor in this box. Any idea? Thanks for this project, it's really cool Pavel Rybnicek --- EMAIL.CZ - Vase posta je vzdy s Vami http://www.email.cz From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 03:51:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:51:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin mailing list problem (FW: Returned mail: see transcri pt f or details Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D2B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:15 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cygwin mailing list problem (FW: Returned mail: > see transcri pt f or details > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 02:08:14PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > >I think a long time ago someone on his own sent a mail with > that address. > >If I am not wrong, you said that you added it so it might > work. Therefore I > >think > >many people (NOT ME) started using it. > > I added an xfree86.cygwin.com alias when someone started > using it. I just > added an xfree.cygwin.com address as well so hopefully this > is no longer > an issue. > > Slowly but surely I'm automating these processes so that it > isn't such a > big deal to service these kind of requests. I haven't gotten > to this particular > one yet, though. > > cgf > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 03:52:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:52:00 -0000 Subject: Shell widget - xedit Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D2C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:39 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Shell widget - xedit > > > I can confirm that xedit does not work under: > > Windows98SE, 1.3.2, 4.0.3 > > but it works for me under > > Windows98, 1.3.2, 4.1.0 > > > Fabio > Well there were some issues with xedit in previous releases. I am not sure if they were fixed in 4.0.3. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 04:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:02:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D2E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Will it not cause version skew with Cygwin/XFree86? We build XFree86 always with latest version of Cygwin1.dll. If your KDE needs Cygwin 1.1.8, then either we will end up maitaining various version sof binaries or users may end up compiling themselves. If you post older version of XFree86 linked to older Cygwin DLLs, you will be inviting a support nightmare for the people at Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. Therefore I wanted everyone who is involved in Cygwin/XFree86 project knows about your KDE port and has something to say. I will not oppose posting older releases of Cygwin/Xfree86, but, as Chris said, I will not be a happy camper either because developers at Cygwin/Xfree86 project will need to deal with version skew issues otther support issues. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:33 AM > To: Cygwin-Apps > Cc: Suhaib Siddiqi; Alan Hourihane; Robert Collins > Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > Betreff: RE: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > cygwin-apps. (KDE is a ported application). > > > > I've removed Chris from the cc, as I know he is subscribed. > > > > So, Ralf, as I understand it the question is, why do you need cygwin > > 1.1.8, and an older ncurses? > > > 1. I have reported ealier in the cygwin list about unix > socket problems, > which occurs only on using cygwin 1.3.2. > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-05/msg01684.html > After debugging kde, currently I have no idea what's going > wrong. Curiously > with cygwin 1.1.8 there is no problem. One reason may be the > relocation > problem found in cygwin by Robert Collins, but the sockets > problems still > remains. > > Currently I preparing a test environment for me, i think I > can tell more > soon. > > > 2. applications or linbs linked with cygwin 1.3.2 like > ncurses reference a > pointer "check_for_executable" used by the method > path_conv::exec_state(). > This isn't available under cygwin 1.1.8. So if one > application or lib is > linked with cygwin 1.3.2 it will never runs under cygwin > 1.1.8. Especially > in deep nested applications like kde this wilkl produced much support > problems. > > It is not possible to put this var into the structure pointed by the > impure_ptr (or somewhere else) to prevent such incompatibility ? > > > Does using ld without the auto-image-base solve your issues > with cygwin > > 1.3.2? > > You need to all -Wl,--export-all-symbols. Without that --whole-archive > doesn't do anything. > Additional I have recognized a problem in using static libs, > but this I have > to analyse more. > > > What issues do you have with the latest ncurses? > look at 2. > ncurses 2.5-5 needs "check_for_executable", so if you update > the cygwin > installation with it, some kde applications will not work > (especiallyx kvt). > Look below for additional informations relating dependency > problematic. > > > Dependency problems > Some libs like jpeglib are named with the major revision > number, but without > the minor /release or buildnumber for examples cygjpeg6b.dll or > ncurses5.dll. > > Especially for the jepglib there is an additional runtime > checking if the > caller has compiled in the same version lib (with build-number). > > So when I compile kde with cygjpeg6b-2 and some time later > someone updates > his jpeglib to Release 6b-4, kde will not be able to run > because of this > runtime checking. > > Because of this I decided for kde to use dlls with detailed name (for > example kdecore-2-0-0.dll) so that multiple installed versions of one > package/lib are possibly. > > The cygwin installer doesn't care about such dependencies, so > currently, it > would be easier to supply depending libs with the kde (or > other toplevel > packages) package with the resulting problem of equal named dlls with > different versions. > > > Regards > Ralf > > > > > Rob > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM > > > To: Alan Hourihane; Christopher Faylor; Robert Collins; > Suhaib Siddiqi > > > Subject: Re: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > >I will forward you one of his email from this morning. I do > > > not think he > > > >Asked these questions on the mailing list. Perhaps if you > > > answer him and > > > >ask him if he will be willing to move the discussion to > > > mailing list so > > > >others can join too???? > > > > > > Hi all, > > > which list we should use for this cygwinb or cygwin/xfree ? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ralf Habacker > > > EMail: Ralf@habacker.de > > > Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com > > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 04:12:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: xgc crashes XWin Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D2F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Thanks for info. I will enable XFree86-MISC extension in the next binary release. If you are in a hurry, you can download the sources from CVS ( http://www.xfree86.org ) and compile it yourself. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:23 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'Fabio@Colorado.EDU'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: xgc crashes XWin > > > >>>>> "SS" == Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > SS> Fabio > SS> Do a xdpyinfo pluease > SS> Do you see Xfree86-misc extension or not? > SS> Let us know. Thanks > > Suhaib, > > I don't see the Xfree86-misc extension. Here is the complete list. > > number of extensions: 20 > BIG-REQUESTS > DOUBLE-BUFFER > Extended-Visual-Information > FontCache > GLX > LBX > MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD > RECORD > RENDER > SECURITY > SGI-GLX > SHAPE > SYNC > TOG-CUP > XC-APPGROUP > XC-MISC > XFree86-Bigfont > XKEYBOARD > XTEST > XVideo > > > Fabio > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Fabio Somenzi [ mailto:Fabio@Colorado.EDU ] > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:01 AM > >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >> Subject: xgc crashes XWin > >> > >> The following sequence of events causes XWin to crash on: > >> > >> Windows98, 1.3.2, 4.1.0 > >> > >> > >> 1. Start xgc. > >> > >> 2. Set the line width to something greater than 0. (I > have tried 1, > >> 2, and 4.) > >> > >> 3. Click on "Run". > >> > >> > >> This is not at all critical for me (I was just trying > things in search > >> for inspiration on how to solve my fonts/xfs problem) but > I thought > >> I'd report it. > >> > >> BTW, is it normal for "xset q" to take anywhere between 15 and 30 > >> seconds to run, and report the following? > >> > >> Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display > "127.0.0.1:0.0". > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> Fabio > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Jun 13 04:27:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:27:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <000a01c0f3f5$4303e640$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <014901c0f3fb$ed910920$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" To: "Cygwin" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > Betreff: RE: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > cygwin-apps. (KDE is a ported application). > > > > I've removed Chris from the cc, as I know he is subscribed. > > > > So, Ralf, as I understand it the question is, why do you need cygwin > > 1.1.8, and an older ncurses? > > > 1. I have reported ealier in the cygwin list about unix socket problems, > which occurs only on using cygwin 1.3.2. > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-05/msg01684.html > After debugging kde, currently I have no idea what's going wrong. Curiously > with cygwin 1.1.8 there is no problem. One reason may be the relocation > problem found in cygwin by Robert Collins, but the sockets problems still > remains. > > Currently I preparing a test environment for me, i think I can tell more > soon. Is this the socket error you are referring to? == $ startx _XSERVTransmkdir: inode for /tmp/.X11-unix changed _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: mkdir(/tmp/.X11-unix) failed, errno = 17 _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local === Rob From Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com Wed Jun 13 04:44:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com (Ralf Habacker) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:44:00 -0000 Subject: !!AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <011801c0f3f8$7f2034f0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <001601c0f3fe$a6139d80$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> > > > > > 1. I have reported ealier in the cygwin list about unix socket > problems, > > > > 2. applications or linbs linked with cygwin 1.3.2 like ncurses > reference a > > pointer "check_for_executable" used by the method > path_conv::exec_state(). > > This isn't available under cygwin 1.1.8. So if one application or lib > is > > linked with cygwin 1.3.2 it will never runs under cygwin 1.1.8. > Especially > > in deep nested applications like kde this wilkl produced much support > > problems. > > > > It is not possible to put this var into the structure pointed by the > > impure_ptr (or somewhere else) to prevent such incompatibility ? > > It's only incompatible if you are running a compiled-on-cygwin-1.3.2 > binary on a cygwin-1.1.8 system. That's like running a glibc 2.2 > compiled binary ona glibc 2.1 system. There's no reason to expect that > to work. Personally I don't think that the cygwin list should have to > compile ncurses for 1.1.8, once 1.3.2 is released. Remember: backwards > compatability means running old binaries still works with newer > Cygwin's, not newer binaries work on old cygwin's. Still if the cause of > that symbols use can be hidden, I see no problem with you providing a > patch. > > That issue will go away if you are able to solve your sockets issue > though - so I don't see it as a big issue. You're right. I hope I can find it :/ > > > > Does using ld without the auto-image-base solve your issues with > cygwin > > > 1.3.2? > > > > You need to all -Wl,--export-all-symbols. Without that --whole-archive > > doesn't do anything. > > Additional I have recognized a problem in using static libs, but this > I have > > to analyse more. > > What's the --whole-archive thing? --export-all-symbols will likely cause > symbol conflicts with every dll re-exporting every imported symbol. > As I started using the ld with the auto-import patch I have figured out, that I have to use --whole-archive ... objs ... --no-whole-archive .....deps.... to import all objectfiles. Otherwise ld removes all unused objectfiles. With your patched binutils I have to add --export-all-symbols too, otherwise only(!) the last listed objectfile was included in the import library file. I think the dll have all symbols. Perhaps this may be a bug ??? (I will analyse this) > > > > > Dependency problems > > Some libs like jpeglib are named with the major revision number, but > without > > the minor /release or buildnumber for examples cygjpeg6b.dll or > > ncurses5.dll. > > > > Especially for the jepglib there is an additional runtime checking if > the > > caller has compiled in the same version lib (with build-number). > > > > So when I compile kde with cygjpeg6b-2 and some time later someone > updates > > his jpeglib to Release 6b-4, kde will not be able to run because of > this > > runtime checking. > > > > Because of this I decided for kde to use dlls with detailed name (for > > example kdecore-2-0-0.dll) so that multiple installed versions of one > > package/lib are possibly. > > That unilateral decision will give you problems later on!. A number of > folk, including Charles Wilson spent a bunch of time ~6 months ago > sorting out .dll naming conventions for mingw & cygwin & hopefully for > other gnu on windows projects. IIRC the cyg[libname][majorversion].dll > naming format was chosen so that users would not need _every single_ > compilation of a .dll on their system. Remember that windows doesn't > support links between .dll's so that multiple versions will have to > actually exist. Okay, this could be changed easily for the kde 1.1.2 libtool. For kde2 your libtool support this already. > > If libjpeg is breaking it's own ABI in a non-backward compatible fashion > without incrementing it's major version number, then I would be going > and talking to them with big sticks. > >From what you are saying it sounds like a program llinked to libjpeg > 6.1.0 won't run with libjpeg 6.1.1. That's pretty unusual for > libraries - can the version checking be made more sane? Or is that > because of the current beta state of libjpeg? I don't know. What i have seen in jpeglib6a is this. --------------------------------------------------------- jpeglib.h:#define JPEG_LIB_VERSION 61 /* Version 6a */ jcapimin.c: GLOBAL(void) jpeg_CreateCompress (j_compress_ptr cinfo, int version, size_t structsize) { ... jcapimin.c: if (version != JPEG_LIB_VERSION)jcapimin.c: ERREXIT2(cinfo, JERR_BAD_LIB_VERSION, JPEG_LIB_VERSION, version); #define jpeg_create_compress(cinfo) \ jpeg_CreateCompress((cinfo), JPEG_LIB_VERSION, \ (size_t) sizeof(struct jpeg_compress_struct)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- jpeglib6b has another version number > > > The cygwin installer doesn't care about such dependencies, so > currently, it > > would be easier to supply depending libs with the kde (or other > toplevel > > packages) package with the resulting problem of equal named dlls with > > different versions. > > I've sent a patch into cygwin-patches for dependency handling in > setup.exe, but I decided against trying to implement version based > dependencies. That's not trivial at the best of times... > I know. Perhaps one can add a minimal pre/postinstall package script functionality to setup.exe to enable some checking functionality owned to a specific package. I think about two optional scripts in the package archive, which will be extracted before installing and called by setup.exe with some mode options like preinstal/postinstall/preuninstall/reinstall and so on. This would be although good for additional postinstall actions like adding accounts or patch files. Or is this already implemented, I only don't know ? Regards Ralf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 04:46:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:46:00 -0000 Subject: Manuel - Support of Win98 ? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D30@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You can add at the bottom of startx script twm& This should start twm windows manager. You need to put .Xauthority in your $HOME directory If you do not want to customize, .Xauthority file can be an empty file too. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Manuel Pouchon [ mailto:mpouchon@hotmail.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:27 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Manuel - Support of Win98 ? > > > Hi, > > I am running "Windows 98 Second Edition 4.10.2222 A" on a > "Pentium II". > Cygwin: Latest release (DLL version 1.3.2) > > My problem has already been addressed by Ryan Hairyes on 24 > Feb 2001. When > starting the x-server from the cygwin-bash (with startx) the > x-server starts > with an xterm in it. Unfortunately no windowmanager is activated. The > following messages are written to the cygwin-shell > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported > engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 16, > using depth: > 32 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width > 640 height 480 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff RGB 8 d > 32 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > cat: /home/m-pouchon/.Xauthority: No such file or directory > cat: /home/m-pouchon/.Xauthority: No such file or directory > cat: /home/m-pouchon/.Xauthority: No such file or directory > > When I do the same by using the DOS-prompt (with startxwin), > exactly the > same happens except that there is no error message concerning > the missing > .Xauthority file. I can also get rid of the SecurityPolicy message by > creating an xserver - folder containing a copy of the > SecurityPolicy file > (contained in 4.0.3 the distribution). However, this doesn't help. > > I know that Windows 98 was not supported when Ryan had the > same problem. > Does the message "Cygwin/XFree86's development server has > stabilized" (14. > April 2001 in the latest news) mean that it is supported now? > > First I had installed the 4.0.3 binary files (all of them). > After having > this problem, I installed the 4.1.0 binary files (all of > them), I then found > that "libz.dll" was missing, I then copied this dll contained > in the 4.0.3 > distribution to the ..\bin directory and had again the same > problem (no > windowmanager). Then I installed the 4.0.3 binaries again and > tried to > overwrite with the 4.1.0 binaries. Maybe this is stupid, I am > not good at > these things, sorry about that. However none of these > combinations worked. > > Please tell me whether I do something completely wrong. I am > quite new to > UNIX related problems. > > I want to use OpenDX on this x-server. Could there be further > problems > concerning Win98 or any version of the programs I am using? > > Thank you very much > Manuel > > > Manuel Pouchon > mpouchon@hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > ___________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com . From Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com Wed Jun 13 05:18:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com (Ralf Habacker) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:18:00 -0000 Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D2E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <001a01c0f403$49eaae90$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> > Will it not cause version skew with Cygwin/XFree86? No, you're not using this symbol. I have installed running xfree 4.0.3 and 4.1.0 with cygwin 1.1.8. > We build XFree86 always with latest version of Cygwin1.dll. If your KDE needs Cygwin > 1.1.8, then either we will end up maitaining various version sof binaries or > users may end up compiling themselves. > If you post older version of XFree86 linked to older Cygwin DLLs, you will > be inviting a > support nightmare for the people at Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. > Therefore > I wanted everyone who > is involved in Cygwin/XFree86 project knows about your KDE port and has > something to say. > I will not oppose posting older releases of Cygwin/Xfree86, but, as Chris > said, I will not > be a happy camper either because developers at Cygwin/Xfree86 project will > need to deal with > version skew issues otther support issues. I understand and hope although that I can use the newest cygwin, but this means to check on every new cygwin update if kde is running. You can see on the change from 1.1.8 to 1.3.x it could be, that some minor release are nesessary to get some applications running like the socket problems I have. (for which it isn't clear, where the bug is: in the cygwin.dll or in kde) My plan is to release only a few beta releases of kde-1.1.2 and than leave the 1.1.2 line, because the next step is porting kde-2, which is much more interesting. For me kde-1.2.2 is only a preperation step to learn kde fundamentals. Ralf > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:33 AM > > To: Cygwin-Apps > > Cc: Suhaib Siddiqi; Alan Hourihane; Robert Collins > > Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > Betreff: RE: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > cygwin-apps. (KDE is a ported application). > > > > > > I've removed Chris from the cc, as I know he is subscribed. > > > > > > So, Ralf, as I understand it the question is, why do you need cygwin > > > 1.1.8, and an older ncurses? > > > > > 1. I have reported ealier in the cygwin list about unix > > socket problems, > > which occurs only on using cygwin 1.3.2. > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-05/msg01684.html > > After debugging kde, currently I have no idea what's going > > wrong. Curiously > > with cygwin 1.1.8 there is no problem. One reason may be the > > relocation > > problem found in cygwin by Robert Collins, but the sockets > > problems still > > remains. > > > > Currently I preparing a test environment for me, i think I > > can tell more > > soon. > > > > > > 2. applications or linbs linked with cygwin 1.3.2 like > > ncurses reference a > > pointer "check_for_executable" used by the method > > path_conv::exec_state(). > > This isn't available under cygwin 1.1.8. So if one > > application or lib is > > linked with cygwin 1.3.2 it will never runs under cygwin > > 1.1.8. Especially > > in deep nested applications like kde this wilkl produced much support > > problems. > > > > It is not possible to put this var into the structure pointed by the > > impure_ptr (or somewhere else) to prevent such incompatibility ? > > > > > Does using ld without the auto-image-base solve your issues > > with cygwin > > > 1.3.2? > > > > You need to all -Wl,--export-all-symbols. Without that --whole-archive > > doesn't do anything. > > Additional I have recognized a problem in using static libs, > > but this I have > > to analyse more. > > > > > What issues do you have with the latest ncurses? > > look at 2. > > ncurses 2.5-5 needs "check_for_executable", so if you update > > the cygwin > > installation with it, some kde applications will not work > > (especiallyx kvt). > > Look below for additional informations relating dependency > > problematic. > > > > > > Dependency problems > > Some libs like jpeglib are named with the major revision > > number, but without > > the minor /release or buildnumber for examples cygjpeg6b.dll or > > ncurses5.dll. > > > > Especially for the jepglib there is an additional runtime > > checking if the > > caller has compiled in the same version lib (with build-number). > > > > So when I compile kde with cygjpeg6b-2 and some time later > > someone updates > > his jpeglib to Release 6b-4, kde will not be able to run > > because of this > > runtime checking. > > > > Because of this I decided for kde to use dlls with detailed name (for > > example kdecore-2-0-0.dll) so that multiple installed versions of one > > package/lib are possibly. > > > > The cygwin installer doesn't care about such dependencies, so > > currently, it > > would be easier to supply depending libs with the kde (or > > other toplevel > > packages) package with the resulting problem of equal named dlls with > > different versions. > > > > > > Regards > > Ralf > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM > > > > To: Alan Hourihane; Christopher Faylor; Robert Collins; > > Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > Subject: Re: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will forward you one of his email from this morning. I do > > > > not think he > > > > >Asked these questions on the mailing list. Perhaps if you > > > > answer him and > > > > >ask him if he will be willing to move the discussion to > > > > mailing list so > > > > >others can join too???? > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > which list we should use for this cygwinb or cygwin/xfree ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ralf Habacker > > > > EMail: Ralf@habacker.de > > > > Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com > > > > > > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 05:27:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:27:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D31@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > Will it not cause version skew with Cygwin/XFree86? > > No, you're not using this symbol. I have installed running > xfree 4.0.3 and > 4.1.0 with cygwin 1.1.8. OK, as you say :-) Next question! What about setup.exe. Do you plan to modify setup.exe which can install Xfree86 and KDE? Suhaib > > > We build XFree86 always with latest version of Cygwin1.dll. > If your KDE > needs Cygwin > 1.1.8, then either we will end up maitaining > various version > sof binaries or > > users may end up compiling themselves. > > If you post older version of XFree86 linked to older Cygwin > DLLs, you will > > be inviting a > > support nightmare for the people at Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. > > Therefore > > I wanted everyone who > > is involved in Cygwin/XFree86 project knows about your KDE > port and has > > something to say. > > I will not oppose posting older releases of Cygwin/Xfree86, > but, as Chris > > said, I will not > > be a happy camper either because developers at > Cygwin/Xfree86 project will > > need to deal with > > version skew issues otther support issues. > > I understand and hope although that I can use the newest > cygwin, but this > means > to check on every new cygwin update if kde is running. You > can see on the > change from 1.1.8 to 1.3.x it could be, that some minor release are > nesessary to get some applications running like the socket > problems I have. > (for which it isn't clear, where the bug is: in the > cygwin.dll or in kde) > > My plan is to release only a few beta releases of kde-1.1.2 > and than leave > the 1.1.2 line, because the next step is porting kde-2, which > is much more > interesting. For me kde-1.2.2 is only a preperation step to learn kde > fundamentals. > > Ralf > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:33 AM > > > To: Cygwin-Apps > > > Cc: Suhaib Siddiqi; Alan Hourihane; Robert Collins > > > Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > Betreff: RE: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > cygwin-apps. (KDE is a ported application). > > > > > > > > I've removed Chris from the cc, as I know he is subscribed. > > > > > > > > So, Ralf, as I understand it the question is, why do > you need cygwin > > > > 1.1.8, and an older ncurses? > > > > > > > 1. I have reported ealier in the cygwin list about unix > > > socket problems, > > > which occurs only on using cygwin 1.3.2. > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-05/msg01684.html > > > After debugging kde, currently I have no idea what's going > > > wrong. Curiously > > > with cygwin 1.1.8 there is no problem. One reason may be the > > > relocation > > > problem found in cygwin by Robert Collins, but the sockets > > > problems still > > > remains. > > > > > > Currently I preparing a test environment for me, i think I > > > can tell more > > > soon. > > > > > > > > > 2. applications or linbs linked with cygwin 1.3.2 like > > > ncurses reference a > > > pointer "check_for_executable" used by the method > > > path_conv::exec_state(). > > > This isn't available under cygwin 1.1.8. So if one > > > application or lib is > > > linked with cygwin 1.3.2 it will never runs under cygwin > > > 1.1.8. Especially > > > in deep nested applications like kde this wilkl produced > much support > > > problems. > > > > > > It is not possible to put this var into the structure > pointed by the > > > impure_ptr (or somewhere else) to prevent such incompatibility ? > > > > > > > Does using ld without the auto-image-base solve your issues > > > with cygwin > > > > 1.3.2? > > > > > > You need to all -Wl,--export-all-symbols. Without that > --whole-archive > > > doesn't do anything. > > > Additional I have recognized a problem in using static libs, > > > but this I have > > > to analyse more. > > > > > > > What issues do you have with the latest ncurses? > > > look at 2. > > > ncurses 2.5-5 needs "check_for_executable", so if you update > > > the cygwin > > > installation with it, some kde applications will not work > > > (especiallyx kvt). > > > Look below for additional informations relating dependency > > > problematic. > > > > > > > > > Dependency problems > > > Some libs like jpeglib are named with the major revision > > > number, but without > > > the minor /release or buildnumber for examples cygjpeg6b.dll or > > > ncurses5.dll. > > > > > > Especially for the jepglib there is an additional runtime > > > checking if the > > > caller has compiled in the same version lib (with build-number). > > > > > > So when I compile kde with cygjpeg6b-2 and some time later > > > someone updates > > > his jpeglib to Release 6b-4, kde will not be able to run > > > because of this > > > runtime checking. > > > > > > Because of this I decided for kde to use dlls with > detailed name (for > > > example kdecore-2-0-0.dll) so that multiple installed > versions of one > > > package/lib are possibly. > > > > > > The cygwin installer doesn't care about such dependencies, so > > > currently, it > > > would be easier to supply depending libs with the kde (or > > > other toplevel > > > packages) package with the resulting problem of equal > named dlls with > > > different versions. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Ralf > > > > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM > > > > > To: Alan Hourihane; Christopher Faylor; Robert Collins; > > > Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > > Subject: Re: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will forward you one of his email from this morning. I do > > > > > not think he > > > > > >Asked these questions on the mailing list. Perhaps if you > > > > > answer him and > > > > > >ask him if he will be willing to move the discussion to > > > > > mailing list so > > > > > >others can join too???? > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > which list we should use for this cygwinb or cygwin/xfree ? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Ralf Habacker > > > > > EMail: Ralf@habacker.de > > > > > Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com Wed Jun 13 05:49:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com (Ralf Habacker) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:49:00 -0000 Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D31@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <002c01c0f407$a6303720$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> > > > Will it not cause version skew with Cygwin/XFree86? > > > > No, you're not using this symbol. I have installed running > > xfree 4.0.3 and > > 4.1.0 with cygwin 1.1.8. > > > OK, as you say :-) I like to add as i need it for kde and that means the dlls/XWin- and some fonts-package > > Next question! What about setup.exe. Do you plan to modify setup.exe > which can install Xfree86 and KDE? > I like to modify surely, but I anticipate, that I'm not able to do this because of to little knowledge of low api windows programming. (I cna write a delphi app, but this is not what is needed here.) Perhaps I can contribute some things, but for the main writing, we have to look for another guy. Ralf > Suhaib > > > > > > We build XFree86 always with latest version of Cygwin1.dll. > > If your KDE > > needs Cygwin > 1.1.8, then either we will end up maitaining > > various version > > sof binaries or > > > users may end up compiling themselves. > > > If you post older version of XFree86 linked to older Cygwin > > DLLs, you will > > > be inviting a > > > support nightmare for the people at Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. > > > Therefore > > > I wanted everyone who > > > is involved in Cygwin/XFree86 project knows about your KDE > > port and has > > > something to say. > > > I will not oppose posting older releases of Cygwin/Xfree86, > > but, as Chris > > > said, I will not > > > be a happy camper either because developers at > > Cygwin/Xfree86 project will > > > need to deal with > > > version skew issues otther support issues. > > > > I understand and hope although that I can use the newest > > cygwin, but this > > means > > to check on every new cygwin update if kde is running. You > > can see on the > > change from 1.1.8 to 1.3.x it could be, that some minor release are > > nesessary to get some applications running like the socket > > problems I have. > > (for which it isn't clear, where the bug is: in the > > cygwin.dll or in kde) > > > > My plan is to release only a few beta releases of kde-1.1.2 > > and than leave > > the 1.1.2 line, because the next step is porting kde-2, which > > is much more > > interesting. For me kde-1.2.2 is only a preperation step to learn kde > > fundamentals. > > > > Ralf > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:33 AM > > > > To: Cygwin-Apps > > > > Cc: Suhaib Siddiqi; Alan Hourihane; Robert Collins > > > > Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betreff: RE: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > cygwin-apps. (KDE is a ported application). > > > > > > > > > > I've removed Chris from the cc, as I know he is subscribed. > > > > > > > > > > So, Ralf, as I understand it the question is, why do > > you need cygwin > > > > > 1.1.8, and an older ncurses? > > > > > > > > > 1. I have reported ealier in the cygwin list about unix > > > > socket problems, > > > > which occurs only on using cygwin 1.3.2. > > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-05/msg01684.html > > > > After debugging kde, currently I have no idea what's going > > > > wrong. Curiously > > > > with cygwin 1.1.8 there is no problem. One reason may be the > > > > relocation > > > > problem found in cygwin by Robert Collins, but the sockets > > > > problems still > > > > remains. > > > > > > > > Currently I preparing a test environment for me, i think I > > > > can tell more > > > > soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. applications or linbs linked with cygwin 1.3.2 like > > > > ncurses reference a > > > > pointer "check_for_executable" used by the method > > > > path_conv::exec_state(). > > > > This isn't available under cygwin 1.1.8. So if one > > > > application or lib is > > > > linked with cygwin 1.3.2 it will never runs under cygwin > > > > 1.1.8. Especially > > > > in deep nested applications like kde this wilkl produced > > much support > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > It is not possible to put this var into the structure > > pointed by the > > > > impure_ptr (or somewhere else) to prevent such incompatibility ? > > > > > > > > > Does using ld without the auto-image-base solve your issues > > > > with cygwin > > > > > 1.3.2? > > > > > > > > You need to all -Wl,--export-all-symbols. Without that > > --whole-archive > > > > doesn't do anything. > > > > Additional I have recognized a problem in using static libs, > > > > but this I have > > > > to analyse more. > > > > > > > > > What issues do you have with the latest ncurses? > > > > look at 2. > > > > ncurses 2.5-5 needs "check_for_executable", so if you update > > > > the cygwin > > > > installation with it, some kde applications will not work > > > > (especiallyx kvt). > > > > Look below for additional informations relating dependency > > > > problematic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dependency problems > > > > Some libs like jpeglib are named with the major revision > > > > number, but without > > > > the minor /release or buildnumber for examples cygjpeg6b.dll or > > > > ncurses5.dll. > > > > > > > > Especially for the jepglib there is an additional runtime > > > > checking if the > > > > caller has compiled in the same version lib (with build-number). > > > > > > > > So when I compile kde with cygjpeg6b-2 and some time later > > > > someone updates > > > > his jpeglib to Release 6b-4, kde will not be able to run > > > > because of this > > > > runtime checking. > > > > > > > > Because of this I decided for kde to use dlls with > > detailed name (for > > > > example kdecore-2-0-0.dll) so that multiple installed > > versions of one > > > > package/lib are possibly. > > > > > > > > The cygwin installer doesn't care about such dependencies, so > > > > currently, it > > > > would be easier to supply depending libs with the kde (or > > > > other toplevel > > > > packages) package with the resulting problem of equal > > named dlls with > > > > different versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Ralf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM > > > > > > To: Alan Hourihane; Christopher Faylor; Robert Collins; > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > > > Subject: Re: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will forward you one of his email from this morning. I do > > > > > > not think he > > > > > > >Asked these questions on the mailing list. Perhaps if you > > > > > > answer him and > > > > > > >ask him if he will be willing to move the discussion to > > > > > > mailing list so > > > > > > >others can join too???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > which list we should use for this cygwinb or cygwin/xfree ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralf Habacker > > > > > > EMail: Ralf@habacker.de > > > > > > Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cedric.bompart@morse.com Wed Jun 13 05:56:00 2001 From: cedric.bompart@morse.com (Cedric Bompart) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:56:00 -0000 Subject: rose? Message-ID: <29C84CF25D03D5119FCF009027B67B5A2714C6@EXCHANGE1> Hi, I'm using cygwin/xfree 4.1.0 to get a linux display. I got Rational Rose for linux and when I want to redirect the display to my NT box, the cygwin/xfree server crash/freeze... maybe a fonts problem... idea? Ced. -- Cedric Bompart, Internet Developer, Morse Hughes Rae tel: 01332 826110 mobile: 07931 536934 switchboard: 01332 826000 email: c.bompart@hughesrae.co.uk This email and any attachments are confidential and are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this email and have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete it from your system. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 05:59:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:59:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D32@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > > > Will it not cause version skew with Cygwin/XFree86? > > > > > > No, you're not using this symbol. I have installed running > > > xfree 4.0.3 and > > > 4.1.0 with cygwin 1.1.8. > > > > > > OK, as you say :-) > I like to add as i need it for kde and that means the > dlls/XWin- and some > fonts-package Can you not put links at your KDE URL, pointing to downlaod xfree86 dlls package from http://xfree86.cygwin.com/xc-4-binaries/4.1.0/xxxxx.tar.bz2 ???? I cannot stop you from taking binary packages and redistributing them, Xfree86 license allows it, but since binaries are linked to Cygwin1.dll which is under GPL, you will end up including Cygwin1.dll source code. In my opinion providing links might be a better idea. > I like to modify surely, but I anticipate, that I'm not able > to do this > because of to little knowledge of low api windows > programming. (I cna write > a delphi app, but this is not what is needed here.) Perhaps I > can contribute > some things, but for the main writing, we have to look for > another guy. I will let Rob answer this. I also do not know ins and outs of setup.exe code. Suhaib > > Ralf > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > We build XFree86 always with latest version of Cygwin1.dll. > > > If your KDE > > > needs Cygwin > 1.1.8, then either we will end up maitaining > > > various version > > > sof binaries or > > > > users may end up compiling themselves. > > > > If you post older version of XFree86 linked to older Cygwin > > > DLLs, you will > > > > be inviting a > > > > support nightmare for the people at Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. > > > > Therefore > > > > I wanted everyone who > > > > is involved in Cygwin/XFree86 project knows about your KDE > > > port and has > > > > something to say. > > > > I will not oppose posting older releases of Cygwin/Xfree86, > > > but, as Chris > > > > said, I will not > > > > be a happy camper either because developers at > > > Cygwin/Xfree86 project will > > > > need to deal with > > > > version skew issues otther support issues. > > > > > > I understand and hope although that I can use the newest > > > cygwin, but this > > > means > > > to check on every new cygwin update if kde is running. You > > > can see on the > > > change from 1.1.8 to 1.3.x it could be, that some minor > release are > > > nesessary to get some applications running like the socket > > > problems I have. > > > (for which it isn't clear, where the bug is: in the > > > cygwin.dll or in kde) > > > > > > My plan is to release only a few beta releases of kde-1.1.2 > > > and than leave > > > the 1.1.2 line, because the next step is porting kde-2, which > > > is much more > > > interesting. For me kde-1.2.2 is only a preperation step > to learn kde > > > fundamentals. > > > > > > Ralf > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:33 AM > > > > > To: Cygwin-Apps > > > > > Cc: Suhaib Siddiqi; Alan Hourihane; Robert Collins > > > > > Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betreff: RE: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > cygwin-apps. (KDE is a ported application). > > > > > > > > > > > > I've removed Chris from the cc, as I know he is subscribed. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, Ralf, as I understand it the question is, why do > > > you need cygwin > > > > > > 1.1.8, and an older ncurses? > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I have reported ealier in the cygwin list about unix > > > > > socket problems, > > > > > which occurs only on using cygwin 1.3.2. > > > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-05/msg01684.html > > > > > After debugging kde, currently I have no idea what's going > > > > > wrong. Curiously > > > > > with cygwin 1.1.8 there is no problem. One reason may be the > > > > > relocation > > > > > problem found in cygwin by Robert Collins, but the sockets > > > > > problems still > > > > > remains. > > > > > > > > > > Currently I preparing a test environment for me, i think I > > > > > can tell more > > > > > soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. applications or linbs linked with cygwin 1.3.2 like > > > > > ncurses reference a > > > > > pointer "check_for_executable" used by the method > > > > > path_conv::exec_state(). > > > > > This isn't available under cygwin 1.1.8. So if one > > > > > application or lib is > > > > > linked with cygwin 1.3.2 it will never runs under cygwin > > > > > 1.1.8. Especially > > > > > in deep nested applications like kde this wilkl produced > > > much support > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > It is not possible to put this var into the structure > > > pointed by the > > > > > impure_ptr (or somewhere else) to prevent such > incompatibility ? > > > > > > > > > > > Does using ld without the auto-image-base solve your issues > > > > > with cygwin > > > > > > 1.3.2? > > > > > > > > > > You need to all -Wl,--export-all-symbols. Without that > > > --whole-archive > > > > > doesn't do anything. > > > > > Additional I have recognized a problem in using static libs, > > > > > but this I have > > > > > to analyse more. > > > > > > > > > > > What issues do you have with the latest ncurses? > > > > > look at 2. > > > > > ncurses 2.5-5 needs "check_for_executable", so if you update > > > > > the cygwin > > > > > installation with it, some kde applications will not work > > > > > (especiallyx kvt). > > > > > Look below for additional informations relating dependency > > > > > problematic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dependency problems > > > > > Some libs like jpeglib are named with the major revision > > > > > number, but without > > > > > the minor /release or buildnumber for examples > cygjpeg6b.dll or > > > > > ncurses5.dll. > > > > > > > > > > Especially for the jepglib there is an additional runtime > > > > > checking if the > > > > > caller has compiled in the same version lib (with > build-number). > > > > > > > > > > So when I compile kde with cygjpeg6b-2 and some time later > > > > > someone updates > > > > > his jpeglib to Release 6b-4, kde will not be able to run > > > > > because of this > > > > > runtime checking. > > > > > > > > > > Because of this I decided for kde to use dlls with > > > detailed name (for > > > > > example kdecore-2-0-0.dll) so that multiple installed > > > versions of one > > > > > package/lib are possibly. > > > > > > > > > > The cygwin installer doesn't care about such dependencies, so > > > > > currently, it > > > > > would be easier to supply depending libs with the kde (or > > > > > other toplevel > > > > > packages) package with the resulting problem of equal > > > named dlls with > > > > > different versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Ralf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Ralf Habacker > [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com ] > > > > > > > Sent: > Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM > > > > > > > To: Alan Hourihane; Christopher Faylor; Robert Collins; > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > > > > Subject: Re: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with > kde 1.1.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will forward you one of his email from this > morning. I do > > > > > > > not think he > > > > > > > >Asked these questions on the mailing list. > Perhaps if you > > > > > > > answer him and > > > > > > > >ask him if he will be willing to move the discussion to > > > > > > > mailing list so > > > > > > > >others can join too???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > which list we should use for this cygwinb or > cygwin/xfree ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralf Habacker > > > > > > > EMail: Ralf@habacker.de > > > > > > > Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Jun 13 06:24:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:24:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <002c01c0f407$a6303720$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <01d201c0f40c$431f8d20$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" To: "Cygwin-Xfree" ; "Cygwin-Apps" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:52 PM Subject: AW: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > > Will it not cause version skew with Cygwin/XFree86? > > > > > > No, you're not using this symbol. I have installed running > > > xfree 4.0.3 and > > > 4.1.0 with cygwin 1.1.8. > > > > > > OK, as you say :-) > I like to add as i need it for kde and that means the dlls/XWin- and some > fonts-package > > > > Next question! What about setup.exe. Do you plan to modify setup.exe > > which can install Xfree86 and KDE? > > > I like to modify surely, but I anticipate, that I'm not able to do this > because of to little knowledge of low api windows programming. (I cna write > a delphi app, but this is not what is needed here.) Perhaps I can contribute > some things, but for the main writing, we have to look for another guy. > > Ralf > Soap box time. Modifying cygwin1.dll and setup.exe are much easier than you may think. I don't claim to know the win32 API, and when I do hack on cygwin internals, it's usually with msnd open in a browser windows. Buuuut: give it a try - it's much easier than you may think. Also, I've sent in a patch to do basic category and dependency support for setup.exe Chris hasn't reviewed it yet (I imagine he was asleep when I sent it to the patches list). It's in the archives, called "updated: Category and basic dependency for setup". I'm hoping that it will provide enough functionality to allow XFree86 to be considered for inclusion in the main distribution. I'm quite willing to put some more time into it, once I get some feedback on my approach to date. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 13 06:37:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:37:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 30 References: Message-ID: Andrew, > How does it work if you hold shift down and leaves enters the window?? > Yeah I know.. I should try but.. :-) Holding down a modifier while leaving the Cygwin/XFree86 is covered by the new patch. Starting from another window and holding down shift while switching the focus to Cygwin/XFree86 seems to be covered by Windows (it generates a new Shift keypress message when Cygwin/XFree86 gets the focus). Harold From cgf@redhat.com Wed Jun 13 09:19:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:19:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <002c01c0f407$a6303720$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> <01d201c0f40c$431f8d20$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010613121934.C7791@redhat.com> On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 11:25:05PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >Also, I've sent in a patch to do basic category and dependency support >for setup.exe Chris hasn't reviewed it yet (I imagine he was asleep when >I sent it to the patches list). It's in the archives, called "updated: >Category and basic dependency for setup". I'm hoping that it will >provide enough functionality to allow XFree86 to be considered for >inclusion in the main distribution. > >I'm quite willing to put some more time into it, once I get some >feedback on my approach to date. Unfortunately, I threw Robert a curve ball (to use an American idiom) by checking in some massive setup.exe changes. IMO, my changes make hacking on setup.exe a little easier but I'm sure that they are incompatible with his changes. So, we have a little bit of thrashing to go through before the dependency and category patches make it into setup.exe. cgf From George.Mezines@bridge.com Wed Jun 13 13:33:00 2001 From: George.Mezines@bridge.com (Mezines, George) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:33:00 -0000 Subject: silent install Message-ID: <183491885FBED411B85C00A0C9EA3EDEA202D3@exchstl3.bridge.com> Can I use setup to perform a silent install of Cygwin with a configuration file? George P. Mezines Systems Engineer GMezines@bridge.com 314-468-8255 Bridge Info. 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To be removed from our "Casters" data send a email with remove in the subject line to webmaster@industrysearch.com From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Jun 13 17:03:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:03:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <002c01c0f407$a6303720$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> <01d201c0f40c$431f8d20$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010613121934.C7791@redhat.com> Message-ID: <021f01c0f465$98b77cd0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: "Cygwin-Xfree" ; "Cygwin-Apps" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:19 AM Subject: Re: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 11:25:05PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > >Also, I've sent in a patch to do basic category and dependency support > >for setup.exe Chris hasn't reviewed it yet (I imagine he was asleep when > >I sent it to the patches list). It's in the archives, called "updated: > >Category and basic dependency for setup". I'm hoping that it will > >provide enough functionality to allow XFree86 to be considered for > >inclusion in the main distribution. > > > >I'm quite willing to put some more time into it, once I get some > >feedback on my approach to date. > > Unfortunately, I threw Robert a curve ball (to use an American idiom) by > checking in some massive setup.exe changes. IMO, my changes make > hacking on setup.exe a little easier but I'm sure that they are > incompatible with his changes. Am I meant to catch or hit the ball? > So, we have a little bit of thrashing to go through before the dependency > and category patches make it into setup.exe. Not too much I hope. I've just sent in an updated patch. Your changes solved one of the things I'd ben mentally bemoaning - the delay on action assigning until the dialog was exited. This is much clearer now. I've got some feedback on the innards, I'm not quite sure to how to describer it though :]. I'll get back to you with that when I've got some words together. Rob > cgf > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 13 17:25:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:25:00 -0000 Subject: silent install Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D3B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Not sure what is silent install with a configuration file. Can you explain what are you trying to accomplish? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Mezines, George [ mailto:George.Mezines@bridge.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:33 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com' > Subject: silent install > > Can I use setup to perform a silent install of Cygwin with a configuration > file? > > George P. Mezines > Systems Engineer > GMezines@bridge.com > 314-468-8255 > Bridge Info. Systems, OASG > St. Louis, MO. 63141-7115 From kwong@control.toronto.edu Wed Jun 13 20:20:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <20010613232613.A6977@thor.control.toronto.edu> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. Everything works except for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin window comes up but does not change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm then come up, stay for a while and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not exit. I need to kill it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. I created .xinitrc and .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to XWin, and after a little while, an error message comes up saying "waiting for X server to begin accepting connections" followed by periods. If I kill it by Ctrl-C, an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or directory (errno 2): unexpected signal 2". I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the impression that the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is interesting to observe that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is excruciatingly slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? Thanks! Raymond Kwong From cgf@redhat.com Wed Jun 13 20:23:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:23:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 References: <002c01c0f407$a6303720$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> <01d201c0f40c$431f8d20$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010613121934.C7791@redhat.com> <021f01c0f465$98b77cd0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010613232336.A13819@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:04:34AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >Not too much I hope. I've just sent in an updated patch. Your changes >solved one of the things I'd ben mentally bemoaning - the delay on >action assigning until the dialog was exited. This is much clearer now. Hmm. I saw the patch but it looked like there were still bits of the old usage. In particular, I saw the (hated) "extra" array in your patch. You also duplicated the new 'getpkgbyname' function with another similar function. I wasn't going to say anything for a while because the mailing list traffic has been so slow that I thought that it was possible that you'd already noticed this yourself. cgf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Jun 13 20:30:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:24 PM > To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Re: ask for delivering cygwin 1.1.8 with kde 1.1.2 > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:04:34AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > >Not too much I hope. I've just sent in an updated patch. Your changes > >solved one of the things I'd ben mentally bemoaning - the delay on > >action assigning until the dialog was exited. This is much > clearer now. > > Hmm. I saw the patch but it looked like there were still bits of the > old usage. In particular, I saw the (hated) "extra" array in > your patch. Oh. I'll check it :] > You also duplicated the new 'getpkgbyname' function with > another similar > function. Doh!. Thats two black marks :] > I wasn't going to say anything for a while because the > mailing list traffic > has been so slow that I thought that it was possible that > you'd already > noticed this yourself. The realities of the working day interrupted me... Rob > > cgf > From landrieu@hotmail.com Wed Jun 13 22:19:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:19:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: Ok... I've done some testing and have some more info on this problem. I would have more info, and would have posted it sooner, except my win2k installation crashed really hard (completely trashed registry) over the weekend (not in any way due to Cygwin or xfree86). First, as has been discussed previously on this list, and as many of you kindly suggested in response to my original post, this problem IS related to a VPN package that I have installed. I have Aventail Connect 3.21 installed on both machines. I found that I can get local xclients to work by tweaking the Aventail Connect configuration file to exclude those programs explicitly. It is _alot_ of work, however, to put all of the xfree86 client apps in this list. The interesting thing that I noticed with this is that it is not enough to simply shutdown the Aventail Connect software. This usually disables all redirections of network traffic. In this case, I found that tweaking the config file is the only solution. Now, I would be satisfied to assume that this is an Aventail Connect bug, BUT... I am not convinced that that is the case. Here is my reasoning: - Aventail Connect does not have any affect on non-xfree86 local xclients (TeraTermSSH for example). Therefore, it IS possible to write local xclients that are not impaired by the VPN software. - Aventail Connect does not screw up local TCP/IP traffic to server processes running on localhost. I tested this by running Apache Jakarta's Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 JSP/Servlet engine on localhost port 8080. This should be equivalent to xfree86 running on localhost at port 6000. I am able to access JSPs, servlets, and HTML pages at http://localhost:8080 with a local web browser with no problems at all. - Aventail Connect prevents local xfree86 xclients from displaying on _remote_ X servers. Yet, no other client TCP/IP programs are affected (telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. - to the same remote host... so networking is fine). - No other applications other than xfree86 xclients are affected by the Aventail Connect software. Even other cygwin programs, which I expect to use the same networking APIs and features, are _not_ impared by the VPN software. - The TCP/IP part of it is working. I found this by sniffing packets between my win2k machine and a linux box using ethereal. I ran Cygwin/xfree86's xterm on win2k with the display set to the linux boxes' display (with "xhost +" on the linux box). I did this with and with out the Aventail Connect config file tweak (so it was successful for one try and failed on the other). What I found was that the TCP socket is successfully establed in both cases. But, in the case where the the tweak was not applied (the failed X connect), the win2k machine closed the connection immediately after openning it. In fact it sent two acknowledgements to the linux boxes' SYN/ACK packet. The first acknowledgement was simply just an acknowledgement (no other TCP flags set). The second packet had both ACK and FIN set. Both packets sent the exact same TCP sequence numbers and acknowledgement numbers (without a "next sequence number"). - I have experienced no other networking problems with either test machine. Now I at least have a work around for the problem. However, I still believe that the problem should be fixed and _is_ fixable within Cygwin and/or xfree86. It also is not necessarily the VPN software's problem. Clearly there is some kind of bad interaction between the xclients and the VPN software, but since no other networking software (that I have used) is broken by the VPN software and since the other programs generally do similar networking stuff to that of the xclients, I don't see any reason why the xclients can't be made to work okay with the VPN software (without tweaking the config file). Unless the X client libs are using obscure networking features that are broken by the VPN software but are not used by any of the other software, it seems to me that, maybe, they are doing things that: - they shouldn't be doing (things that have unpredictable results in the APIs), or - aren't fully or properly supported in the Cygwin socket libs, or - are unnecessarily complex or obscure. Questions: - Where is a good place in the source code of the Cygwin and xfree86 libraries for me to start tracing these problems down? - Where are all the socket calls made when establishing an X client connection? - Is it safe for me to assume that xfree86 is strictly doing Cygwin/POSIX-type socket calls (therefore no direct calls to the Win32 networking APIs)? Thank you all for your generous hints, suggestions, and helpful responses. Chris Landrieu _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Jun 13 22:32:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:32:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Landrieu [ mailto:landrieu@hotmail.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:19 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > > > Ok... I've done some testing and have some more info on this > problem. I > would have more info, and would have posted it sooner, except > my win2k > installation crashed really hard (completely trashed > registry) over the > weekend (not in any way due to Cygwin or xfree86). > > First, as has been discussed previously on this list, and as > many of you > kindly suggested in response to my original post, this > problem IS related to > a VPN package that I have installed. I have Aventail Connect > 3.21 installed > on both machines. I found that I can get local xclients to > work by tweaking > the Aventail Connect configuration file to exclude those programs > explicitly. It is _alot_ of work, however, to put all of the > xfree86 client > apps in this list. > > The interesting thing that I noticed with this is that it is > not enough to > simply shutdown the Aventail Connect software. This usually > disables all > redirections of network traffic. In this case, I found that > tweaking the > config file is the only solution. > > Now, I would be satisfied to assume that this is an Aventail > Connect bug, > BUT... I am not convinced that that is the case. Here is my > reasoning: > > - Aventail Connect does not have any affect on non-xfree86 > local xclients > (TeraTermSSH for example). Therefore, it IS possible to write local > xclients that are not impaired by the VPN software. Do you have any other examples? TeraTermSSH is not an X client. It is an SSH client, operates on a single well known port. > - Aventail Connect does not screw up local TCP/IP traffic > to server > processes running on localhost. I tested this by running > Apache Jakarta's > Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 JSP/Servlet engine on localhost port 8080. > This should be > equivalent to xfree86 running on localhost at port 6000. I > am able to > access JSPs, servlets, and HTML pages at > http://localhost:8080 with a local > web browser with no problems at all. Are the requests being made from a) an unbound local port, b) a local port bound to 127.0.0.1 port ? or c) a local port bound to _the ethernet card/modem_ ip address These three things will appear different to Aventail Connect, and it may treat them differently. This will have bearing on the feasability of changing XFree86 to work around your problem. Also, for d,e and f the same question applies to the listening server, is it bound, unbound and if bound to what address. > - Aventail Connect prevents local xfree86 xclients from > displaying on > _remote_ X servers. Yet, no other client TCP/IP programs are > affected > (telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. - to the same remote host... so > networking is fine). Same two questions as before (local unbound vs local bound 127.0.0.1 vs lcoal bound to wire) > - No other applications other than xfree86 xclients are > affected by the > Aventail Connect software. Even other cygwin programs, which > I expect to > use the same networking APIs and features, are _not_ impared > by the VPN > software. Thats good to know. > - The TCP/IP part of it is working. I found this by > sniffing packets > between my win2k machine and a linux box using ethereal. I ran > Cygwin/xfree86's xterm on win2k with the display set to the > linux boxes' > display (with "xhost +" on the linux box). I did this with > and with out the > Aventail Connect config file tweak (so it was successful for > one try and > failed on the other). What I found was that the TCP socket > is successfully > establed in both cases. But, in the case where the the tweak was not > applied (the failed X connect), the win2k machine closed the > connection > immediately after openning it. In fact it sent two > acknowledgements to the > linux boxes' SYN/ACK packet. The first acknowledgement was > simply just an > acknowledgement (no other TCP flags set). The second packet > had both ACK > and FIN set. Both packets sent the exact same TCP sequence > numbers and > acknowledgement numbers (without a "next sequence number"). That sounds to me like Aventail dropping the connection. > - I have experienced no other networking problems with either test > machine. > > Now I at least have a work around for the problem. However, > I still believe > that the problem should be fixed and _is_ fixable within > Cygwin and/or > xfree86. We cannot work around every vendors bugs :]. True - this may not be an Aventail Connect problem but all the indications so far are that it is. > - they shouldn't be doing (things that have unpredictable > results in the > APIs), or > - aren't fully or properly supported in the Cygwin socket libs, or > - are unnecessarily complex or obscure. > > Questions: > - Where is a good place in the source code of the Cygwin > and xfree86 > libraries for me to start tracing these problems down? > - Where are all the socket calls made when establishing an > X client > connection? There is quite likely a difference in the source port for the xclients connections. I'd start there and write a test program and test server to check the permutations of a,b,c and d,e,f above. > - Is it safe for me to assume that xfree86 is strictly doing > Cygwin/POSIX-type socket calls (therefore no direct calls to > the Win32 > networking APIs)? AFAIK XFree86/Cygwin only calls cygwin networking API's... all win32 networking calls are made from cygwin. > Thank you all for your generous hints, suggestions, and > helpful responses. > > Chris Landrieu > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no Thu Jun 14 00:20:00 2001 From: Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no (Idar Tollefsen) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:20:00 -0000 Subject: rose? Message-ID: Hello, > I'm using cygwin/xfree 4.1.0 to get a linux display. I got Rational Rose for > linux and when I want to redirect the display to my NT box, the cygwin/xfree > server crash/freeze... >maybe a fonts problem... > idea? To attack this problem from a different angle: Provided that the price for Rose on Linux and Rose on NT is the same, and that you have a floating licenses, why not just download Rose for NT and run it as a native application instead? - IT From huaqiaowen@263.net Thu Jun 14 03:09:00 2001 From: huaqiaowen@263.net (Hua Qiaowen) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:09:00 -0000 Subject: how to adjust resolution to 800x600 or more higher? Message-ID: <3B288DB1.00043@mta5> Hello all, XFree is working on my win98 box. I run startx in cygwin bash shell, but the default resolution is 640x480, how to increase it? Thanks. Hua Qiaowen _____________________________________________ [???????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????] ????????????????????????????????????????????????95963????????????????????????????????/????????????????????????263 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? http://shopping.263.net/category19.htm From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Thu Jun 14 03:37:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Genisio) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:37:00 -0000 Subject: how to adjust resolution to 800x600 or more higher? References: <3B288DB1.00043@mta5> Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20010614063459.01521ea8@pilot.msu.edu> Instead of using startx, use startxwin.bat. In that script, there is a line : -screen 0 800x600x16 Where 16 is your bits/pixel. You can change this all you want, for your resolution and depth. At 06:10 PM 6/14/2001 +0800, you wrote: >Hello all, > XFree is working on my win98 box. I run startx in cygwin bash shell, > but the default resolution is 640x480, how to increase it? >Thanks. > >Hua Qiaowen > >_____________________________________________ >[???????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????] ????????????????????????????????????????????????95963????????????????????????????????/????????????????????????263 >???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? http://shopping.263.net/category19.htm From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jun 14 03:38:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:38:00 -0000 Subject: how to adjust resolution to 800x600 or more higher? References: <4.3.1.0.20010614063459.01521ea8@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: <00aa01c0f4be$520a8a80$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Or use startx, and edit ~/.xserverrc to contain --- XWin -screen 0 800 600 :] Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Genisio" To: "Hua Qiaowen" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Re: how to adjust resolution to 800x600 or more higher? Instead of using startx, use startxwin.bat. In that script, there is a line : -screen 0 800x600x16 Where 16 is your bits/pixel. You can change this all you want, for your resolution and depth. At 06:10 PM 6/14/2001 +0800, you wrote: >Hello all, > XFree is working on my win98 box. I run startx in cygwin bash shell, > but the default resolution is 640x480, how to increase it? >Thanks. > >Hua Qiaowen > >_____________________________________________ >[???????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????] ????????????????????????????????????????????????95963????????????????????????????????/????????????????????????263 >???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? http://shopping.263.net/category19.htm From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 04:23:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:23:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D3E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Well, I am not convienced with your tests and explainations ;-) BECAUSE, I tested a several VPN and Firewall software, except Aventail, and none of them interfere with X-server. Though, a couple of them prompt, "client X is trying to connect to port so and so, Allow or deny" and I can add a rule to allow permanently, instead of clicking a YES button eachtime. As I see from mailing list, majority of the users who have display problems are using Aventail. It is not xclient as you try to explain in your reasonings... it is Aventail stopping the Xclient to connect to X-server. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Landrieu [ mailto:landrieu@hotmail.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:19 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > > > Ok... I've done some testing and have some more info on this > problem. I > would have more info, and would have posted it sooner, except > my win2k > installation crashed really hard (completely trashed > registry) over the > weekend (not in any way due to Cygwin or xfree86). > > First, as has been discussed previously on this list, and as > many of you > kindly suggested in response to my original post, this > problem IS related to > a VPN package that I have installed. I have Aventail Connect > 3.21 installed > on both machines. I found that I can get local xclients to > work by tweaking > the Aventail Connect configuration file to exclude those programs > explicitly. It is _alot_ of work, however, to put all of the > xfree86 client > apps in this list. > > The interesting thing that I noticed with this is that it is > not enough to > simply shutdown the Aventail Connect software. This usually > disables all > redirections of network traffic. In this case, I found that > tweaking the > config file is the only solution. > > Now, I would be satisfied to assume that this is an Aventail > Connect bug, > BUT... I am not convinced that that is the case. Here is my > reasoning: > > - Aventail Connect does not have any affect on non-xfree86 > local xclients > (TeraTermSSH for example). Therefore, it IS possible to write local > xclients that are not impaired by the VPN software. > > - Aventail Connect does not screw up local TCP/IP traffic > to server > processes running on localhost. I tested this by running > Apache Jakarta's > Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 JSP/Servlet engine on localhost port 8080. > This should be > equivalent to xfree86 running on localhost at port 6000. I > am able to > access JSPs, servlets, and HTML pages at > http://localhost:8080 with a local > web browser with no problems at all. > > - Aventail Connect prevents local xfree86 xclients from > displaying on > _remote_ X servers. Yet, no other client TCP/IP programs are > affected > (telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. - to the same remote host... so > networking is fine). > > - No other applications other than xfree86 xclients are > affected by the > Aventail Connect software. Even other cygwin programs, which > I expect to > use the same networking APIs and features, are _not_ impared > by the VPN > software. > > - The TCP/IP part of it is working. I found this by > sniffing packets > between my win2k machine and a linux box using ethereal. I ran > Cygwin/xfree86's xterm on win2k with the display set to the > linux boxes' > display (with "xhost +" on the linux box). I did this with > and with out the > Aventail Connect config file tweak (so it was successful for > one try and > failed on the other). What I found was that the TCP socket > is successfully > establed in both cases. But, in the case where the the tweak was not > applied (the failed X connect), the win2k machine closed the > connection > immediately after openning it. In fact it sent two > acknowledgements to the > linux boxes' SYN/ACK packet. The first acknowledgement was > simply just an > acknowledgement (no other TCP flags set). The second packet > had both ACK > and FIN set. Both packets sent the exact same TCP sequence > numbers and > acknowledgement numbers (without a "next sequence number"). > > - I have experienced no other networking problems with either test > machine. > > Now I at least have a work around for the problem. However, > I still believe > that the problem should be fixed and _is_ fixable within > Cygwin and/or > xfree86. It also is not necessarily the VPN software's > problem. Clearly > there is some kind of bad interaction between the xclients > and the VPN > software, but since no other networking software (that I have > used) is > broken by the VPN software and since the other programs > generally do similar > networking stuff to that of the xclients, I don't see any > reason why the > xclients can't be made to work okay with the VPN software > (without tweaking > the config file). Unless the X client libs are using obscure > networking > features that are broken by the VPN software but are not used > by any of the > other software, it seems to me that, maybe, they are doing > things that: > - they shouldn't be doing (things that have unpredictable > results in the > APIs), or > - aren't fully or properly supported in the Cygwin socket libs, or > - are unnecessarily complex or obscure. > > Questions: > - Where is a good place in the source code of the Cygwin > and xfree86 > libraries for me to start tracing these problems down? > - Where are all the socket calls made when establishing an > X client > connection? > - Is it safe for me to assume that xfree86 is strictly doing > Cygwin/POSIX-type socket calls (therefore no direct calls to > the Win32 > networking APIs)? > > Thank you all for your generous hints, suggestions, and > helpful responses. > > Chris Landrieu > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 04:27:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:27:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D3F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > Everything works except > for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin window comes > up but does not > change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm then come up, > stay for a while > and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > exit. I need to kill > it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. We need more info. post your startxwin.bat what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you use startxwin.bat? > > I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. I created > .xinitrc and > .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to > XWin, Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you explain what do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or x-server window, whatever. Suhaib > and after > a little while, an error message comes up saying "waiting for > X server to > begin accepting connections" followed by periods. If I kill > it by Ctrl-C, > an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > directory (errno 2): > unexpected signal 2". > > I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the > impression that > the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > interesting to observe > that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is > excruciatingly > slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > > Thanks! > > Raymond Kwong > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 04:28:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:28:00 -0000 Subject: rose? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D40@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I know nothing about Rose.... except Rose flowers ;-) Does it use it's own fonts? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Idar Tollefsen [ mailto:Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:23 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: Re: rose? > > > Hello, > > > I'm using cygwin/xfree 4.1.0 to get a linux display. I got > Rational Rose for > > linux and when I want to redirect the display to my NT box, > the cygwin/xfree > > server crash/freeze... > >maybe a fonts problem... > > idea? > > To attack this problem from a different angle: > Provided that the price for Rose on Linux and > Rose on NT is the same, and that you have a > floating licenses, why not just download Rose > for NT and run it as a native application instead? > > > - IT > From Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com Thu Jun 14 07:50:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:50:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? Message-ID: <006d01c0f4e1$778ecc80$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> Hi Suhaib, currently I'm debugging the described socket problems with kde 1.1.2 on xfree and have one X related socket problem. On starting some clients I get very often (not every start) this message _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed I can reproduce this error with xfree 4.03 from 2001/4/14 and xfree 4.10 from 2001/6/2 and cygwin 1.3.2. With cygwin 1.1.8 this error don't occurs (that was the reason, why I tended to use cygwin 1.1.8 with kde) Do you have any ideas, which reason this error message could have ? Regards Ralf Habacker EMail: Ralf@habacker.de Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com From kwong@control.toronto.edu Thu Jun 14 07:53:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:53:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: Re: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <200106141458.KAA07493@thor.control.toronto.edu> I am sorry that I was not clear. My startxwin.bat is the same as that provided in the distribution, with 16 replacing 32, since I am running a 16 bit display, and with the /Bs removed. There are no messages displayed in the DOS window. What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the title of the prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the window changes to an X server window! My .xinitrc is standard: #!/bin/bash export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & twm My .xserverrc is also standard: #!/bin/bash exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the same results. The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. Many thanks for your fast response. Raymond On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. >> Everything works except >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin window comes >> up but does not >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm then come up, >> stay for a while >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not >> exit. I need to kill >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > > We need more info. > post your startxwin.bat > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you use startxwin.bat? > >> >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. I created >> .xinitrc and >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to >> XWin, > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you explain what > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or x-server window, > whatever. > > Suhaib > >> and after >> a little while, an error message comes up saying "waiting for >> X server to >> begin accepting connections" followed by periods. If I kill >> it by Ctrl-C, >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or >> directory (errno 2): >> unexpected signal 2". >> >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the >> impression that >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is >> interesting to observe >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is >> excruciatingly >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Raymond Kwong >> From bssnrw@bath.ac.uk Thu Jun 14 08:28:00 2001 From: bssnrw@bath.ac.uk (Nick Whitelegg) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:28:00 -0000 Subject: Compiling Qt under cygwin Message-ID: Hello, First of all I would just like to excuse myself by saying that I don't currently have cygwin installed. However, I am writing a Qt-based free software application under Linux, that I would like to make available under Windows/Cygwin/X. On the web there are conflicting reports of success; the general impression I get is that Qt1.4x tarballs will compile under Cygwin whereas Qt2.x might not. So can anyone clarify the situation? Thanks, Nick From dreiland@hotmail.com Thu Jun 14 08:51:00 2001 From: dreiland@hotmail.com (Doug Reiland) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:51:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: PLease keep us posted. I have the same problem, but no VPN software installed that I know of (win98 se). I have put this on the back-burner after I had no luck building a debug version of the server. >From: "Christopher Landrieu" >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" >Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:19:19 > >Ok... I've done some testing and have some more info on this problem. I >would have more info, and would have posted it sooner, except my win2k >installation crashed really hard (completely trashed registry) over the >weekend (not in any way due to Cygwin or xfree86). > >First, as has been discussed previously on this list, and as many of you >kindly suggested in response to my original post, this problem IS related >to >a VPN package that I have installed. I have Aventail Connect 3.21 >installed >on both machines. I found that I can get local xclients to work by >tweaking >the Aventail Connect configuration file to exclude those programs >explicitly. It is _alot_ of work, however, to put all of the xfree86 >client >apps in this list. > >The interesting thing that I noticed with this is that it is not enough to >simply shutdown the Aventail Connect software. This usually disables all >redirections of network traffic. In this case, I found that tweaking the >config file is the only solution. > >Now, I would be satisfied to assume that this is an Aventail Connect bug, >BUT... I am not convinced that that is the case. Here is my reasoning: > > - Aventail Connect does not have any affect on non-xfree86 local >xclients >(TeraTermSSH for example). Therefore, it IS possible to write local >xclients that are not impaired by the VPN software. > > - Aventail Connect does not screw up local TCP/IP traffic to server >processes running on localhost. I tested this by running Apache Jakarta's >Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 JSP/Servlet engine on localhost port 8080. This should >be >equivalent to xfree86 running on localhost at port 6000. I am able to >access JSPs, servlets, and HTML pages at http://localhost:8080 with a local >web browser with no problems at all. > > - Aventail Connect prevents local xfree86 xclients from displaying on >_remote_ X servers. Yet, no other client TCP/IP programs are affected >(telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. - to the same remote host... so networking is >fine). > > - No other applications other than xfree86 xclients are affected by the >Aventail Connect software. Even other cygwin programs, which I expect to >use the same networking APIs and features, are _not_ impared by the VPN >software. > > - The TCP/IP part of it is working. I found this by sniffing packets >between my win2k machine and a linux box using ethereal. I ran >Cygwin/xfree86's xterm on win2k with the display set to the linux boxes' >display (with "xhost +" on the linux box). I did this with and with out >the >Aventail Connect config file tweak (so it was successful for one try and >failed on the other). What I found was that the TCP socket is successfully >establed in both cases. But, in the case where the the tweak was not >applied (the failed X connect), the win2k machine closed the connection >immediately after openning it. In fact it sent two acknowledgements to the >linux boxes' SYN/ACK packet. The first acknowledgement was simply just an >acknowledgement (no other TCP flags set). The second packet had both ACK >and FIN set. Both packets sent the exact same TCP sequence numbers and >acknowledgement numbers (without a "next sequence number"). > > - I have experienced no other networking problems with either test >machine. > >Now I at least have a work around for the problem. However, I still >believe >that the problem should be fixed and _is_ fixable within Cygwin and/or >xfree86. It also is not necessarily the VPN software's problem. Clearly >there is some kind of bad interaction between the xclients and the VPN >software, but since no other networking software (that I have used) is >broken by the VPN software and since the other programs generally do >similar >networking stuff to that of the xclients, I don't see any reason why the >xclients can't be made to work okay with the VPN software (without tweaking >the config file). Unless the X client libs are using obscure networking >features that are broken by the VPN software but are not used by any of the >other software, it seems to me that, maybe, they are doing things that: > - they shouldn't be doing (things that have unpredictable results in the >APIs), or > - aren't fully or properly supported in the Cygwin socket libs, or > - are unnecessarily complex or obscure. > >Questions: > - Where is a good place in the source code of the Cygwin and xfree86 >libraries for me to start tracing these problems down? > - Where are all the socket calls made when establishing an X client >connection? > - Is it safe for me to assume that xfree86 is strictly doing >Cygwin/POSIX-type socket calls (therefore no direct calls to the Win32 >networking APIs)? > >Thank you all for your generous hints, suggestions, and helpful responses. > >Chris Landrieu >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From landrieu@hotmail.com Thu Jun 14 09:55:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: >From: "Robert Collins" >To: "Christopher Landrieu" , > -----Original >Message----- > > From: Christopher Landrieu [ mailto:landrieu@hotmail.com ] > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > - Aventail Connect does not have any affect on non-xfree86 > > local xclients > > (TeraTermSSH for example). Therefore, it IS possible to write local > > xclients that are not impaired by the VPN software. > >Do you have any other examples? TeraTermSSH is not an X client. It is an >SSH client, operates on a single well known port. > Actually, it is also behaving as a local xclient when using X Forwarding. It tunnels X traffic from the remote machine (DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 on the remote host) through the SSH tunnel and redirects it to localhost port 6000 on the desktop. In this manner, it is behaving like a local xclient. It doesn't do the actual X Protocol stuff, but it does the TCP/IP stuff and gets the X Protocol stuff from the tunnel. Unfortunately, I don't have any other xclients (other than Cygwin/xfree86) to try. Do you have any recommendations? > > - Aventail Connect does not screw up local TCP/IP traffic > > to server > > processes running on localhost. I tested this by running > > Apache Jakarta's > > Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 JSP/Servlet engine on localhost port 8080. > > This should be > > equivalent to xfree86 running on localhost at port 6000. I > > am able to > > access JSPs, servlets, and HTML pages at > > http://localhost:8080 with a local > > web browser with no problems at all. > >Are the requests being made from >a) an unbound local port, >b) a local port bound to 127.0.0.1 port ? or >c) a local port bound to _the ethernet card/modem_ ip address Aren't all TCP/IP client programs unbound? They don't choose an individual port. The operating system chooses the client's port. Thats why the port is different each time the client tries to open the connection. The OS also chooses what interface and IP address it should be bound to according to its routing table. Am I wrong here? Its been a few years since I did much socket UNIX programing. My guess would be that the answer would be "a)" for all clients. >These three things will appear different to Aventail Connect, and it may >treat them differently. >This will have bearing on the feasability of changing XFree86 to work >around your problem. >Also, for d,e and f the same question applies to the listening server, >is it bound, unbound and if bound to what address. My understanding on the server side is that the server can either bind to a specific port on a specific interface or it can bind to a specific port on all interfaces (loopback, ethernet card, PPP dial-up connection, or what have you). That particular version of Tomcat only allows you to bind all interfaces (as opposed to one specific interface). I would guess that the X server does the same, right? In any case, all servers must bind to a port before listening on it, right? So then e and f are the only posibilities for a server application. In this case Tomcat would be using f and I would expect that xfree86 would do the same. > > > - Aventail Connect prevents local xfree86 xclients from > > displaying on > > _remote_ X servers. Yet, no other client TCP/IP programs are > > affected > > (telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. - to the same remote host... so > > networking is fine). > >Same two questions as before (local unbound vs local bound 127.0.0.1 vs >lcoal bound to wire) > Same answers (and questions) as before. > > - No other applications other than xfree86 xclients are > > affected by the > > Aventail Connect software. Even other cygwin programs, which > > I expect to > > use the same networking APIs and features, are _not_ impared > > by the VPN > > software. > >Thats good to know. > > > - The TCP/IP part of it is working. I found this by > > sniffing packets > > between my win2k machine and a linux box using ethereal. I ran > > Cygwin/xfree86's xterm on win2k with the display set to the > > linux boxes' > > display (with "xhost +" on the linux box). I did this with > > and with out the > > Aventail Connect config file tweak (so it was successful for > > one try and > > failed on the other). What I found was that the TCP socket > > is successfully > > establed in both cases. But, in the case where the the tweak was not > > applied (the failed X connect), the win2k machine closed the > > connection > > immediately after openning it. In fact it sent two > > acknowledgements to the > > linux boxes' SYN/ACK packet. The first acknowledgement was > > simply just an > > acknowledgement (no other TCP flags set). The second packet > > had both ACK > > and FIN set. Both packets sent the exact same TCP sequence > > numbers and > > acknowledgement numbers (without a "next sequence number"). > >That sounds to me like Aventail dropping the connection. What is your reasoning? > > - I have experienced no other networking problems with either test > > machine. > > > > Now I at least have a work around for the problem. However, > > I still believe > > that the problem should be fixed and _is_ fixable within > > Cygwin and/or > > xfree86. > >We cannot work around every vendors bugs :]. True - this may not be an >Aventail Connect problem but all the indications so far are that it is. > > But it seems just as likely that it is an Xfree 86 problem as well. I totally agree that other apps' bugs should remain other apps' bugs, but it seems like alot of people have been having this same problem... even without running VPN software. I appreciate your comments and questions. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 10:45:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:45:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D44@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Hi Suhaib, > > currently I'm debugging the described socket problems with > kde 1.1.2 on > xfree and have one X related socket problem. > > On starting some clients I get very often (not every start) > this message > > _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed > > I can reproduce this error with xfree 4.03 from 2001/4/14 and > xfree 4.10 > from 2001/6/2 and cygwin 1.3.2. > With cygwin 1.1.8 this error don't occurs (that was the > reason, why I tended > to use cygwin 1.1.8 with kde) > > Do you have any ideas, which reason this error message could have ? > > Regards > > Ralf Habacker > EMail: Ralf@habacker.de > Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com > Well, we did not change anything for socket. This seems to UNIX domain socket issue? I am not sure. If it works with Cygwin 1.1.8 and gives error with 1.3.2, then Chris and/or Rob might give a better advice. Suhaib From sridhar_ml@yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 10:58:00 2001 From: sridhar_ml@yahoo.com (Sridhar Boovaraghavan) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:58:00 -0000 Subject: Running out of resources Message-ID: <15144.64331.705000.437139@doit.wisc.edu> Hi, I am running Cygwin XFree86 4.1.0 with the latest Cygwin (1.3.x). This is running on a Win2k Sp2 machine. The main reason that I want to use XFree86 is to display Emacs running on a remote Unix box on my desktop. I am able to do this fine (I start it using ssh servername emacs). But after a while (usually 3-6 hours), the machine runs out of resources and (I think) vtwm crashes. I then lose all the windows that I had open (typically the 2/3 local bash/console windows and 1 remote Emacs window). I can sense that this is coming when I see just switching between applications requires an inordinate amount of time and disk activity (probably paging). When I look in my task manager, the available physical memory is down to around 5K from the total of 256M. Around this point the crash happens when I try to switch to the Emacs session. Interestingly, the X server and the local bash windows that show up as processes on my task list do not seem to be consuming a lot of memory. I don't see the remote emacs listed, nor the amount of resources it is using up. The vtwm window just disappears so I cannot see any log/errors etc. Does it write the errors out to a certain file? The main startwin.bat file contains these lines: -- xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0 " xterm: fatal IO error 113 (The connection was aborted) or KillClient on X serve r "127.0.0.1:0.0" -- I think I have seen messages to the effect "out of process buffer space" and nothing works (I cannot open websites in IE) etc. At this point only a reboot brings things back to "normal". Have people seen things like this? Thanks, Sridhar p.s. I am not subscribed to the mailing list, so please cc a response to me. -- Sridhar Boovaraghavan sridhar_ml@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/sridhar_ml/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 11:05:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:05:00 -0000 Subject: Running out of resources Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D46@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Interestingly, the X server and the local bash windows that show up as > processes on my task list do not seem to be consuming a lot of > memory. I don't see the remote emacs listed, nor the amount of > resources it is using up. How much memory do you? Win2K is a memory hog. I had this problem on a Win2K machine with 128 MB RAM. It turns out Win2K was the culprit, after boosting the memory to 512 MB RAM with 200 MB Pagefile, it started sorta behaving... Have you applied Service Pack 1? It fixes some of the serious memory problems on Win2K. > > The vtwm window just disappears so I cannot see any log/errors > etc. Does it write the errors out to a certain file? > > The main startwin.bat file contains these lines: > > -- > xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X > server "127.0.0.1:0.0 > " > xterm: fatal IO error 113 (The connection was aborted) or > KillClient on X serve > r "127.0.0.1:0.0" > -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this cannot be in startxwin.bat????? > > I think I have seen messages to the effect "out of process buffer > space" and nothing works (I cannot open websites in IE) etc. At this > point only a reboot brings things back to "normal". > > Have people seen things like this? It is youw Windows problems, it is all screwed up. Suhaib > > Thanks, > Sridhar > p.s. I am not subscribed to the mailing list, so please cc a response > to me. > -- > Sridhar Boovaraghavan > sridhar_ml@yahoo.com > http://www.geocities.com/sridhar_ml/ > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From landrieu@hotmail.com Thu Jun 14 11:06:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:06:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: >Well, I am not convienced with your tests and explainations ;-) > >BECAUSE, I tested a several VPN and Firewall software, except Aventail, >and none of them interfere with X-server. Though, a couple of them >prompt, "client X is trying to connect to port so and so, Allow or deny" >and >I >can add a rule to allow permanently, instead of clicking a YES button >eachtime. But the problem doesn't seem to be with the X server. Remote and local xclients (other than the xfree86 ones) can connect and display with no problem. >As I see from mailing list, majority of the users who have display problems >are using Aventail. >It is not xclient as you try to explain in your reasonings... it is >Aventail stopping the Xclient to connect to X-server. There are also many users who have this problem but are not using Aventail. As well the local xclients can't even connect to a remote display (non cygwin/xfree86). Also, eXceed works with Aventail with no problems. By your reasoning, telneting to port 6000 should also be stopped by Aventail, but it isn't. If telnet can make a successful TCP/IP connection to localhost port 6000, why wouldn't the cygwin/xfree86 xterm? This is the point that I would like explained. What is telnet doing different than the X libraries? Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 14 11:48:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:48:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D44@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010614144825.B17361@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:45:49PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > >> Hi Suhaib, >> >> currently I'm debugging the described socket problems with >> kde 1.1.2 on >> xfree and have one X related socket problem. >> >> On starting some clients I get very often (not every start) >> this message >> >> _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed >> >> I can reproduce this error with xfree 4.03 from 2001/4/14 and >> xfree 4.10 >> from 2001/6/2 and cygwin 1.3.2. >> With cygwin 1.1.8 this error don't occurs (that was the >> reason, why I tended >> to use cygwin 1.1.8 with kde) > >Well, we did not change anything for socket. This seems to UNIX domain >socket issue? I am not sure. If it works with Cygwin 1.1.8 and gives >error with 1.3.2, then Chris and/or Rob might give a better advice. Actually, that is probably Corinna's code. It sounds like some kind of problem with reusability of the socket. cgf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 11:54:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:54:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D47@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> May be if you read the X11 socket and display basics here http://www.madisonlinux.org/minutes/X-presentation.html you might understand more how an x client display on an x-server... basically in Xwindows world nothing works without TCP/IP. X is a network protocol as much as anything. All X communications between the X server and client programs is done through TCP/IP and sockets (even locally). There is little to no distinction with regard to where a program runs, and where the output is displayed. So if something modify and conrols the network, then you will face a display problem. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Landrieu [ mailto:landrieu@hotmail.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:06 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > > > >Well, I am not convienced with your tests and explainations ;-) > > > >BECAUSE, I tested a several VPN and Firewall software, > except Aventail, > >and none of them interfere with X-server. Though, a couple of them > >prompt, "client X is trying to connect to port so and so, > Allow or deny" > >and > >I > >can add a rule to allow permanently, instead of clicking a YES button > >eachtime. > > But the problem doesn't seem to be with the X server. Remote > and local > xclients (other than the xfree86 ones) can connect and > display with no > problem. > > >As I see from mailing list, majority of the users who have > display problems > >are using Aventail. > >It is not xclient as you try to explain in your reasonings... it is > >Aventail stopping the Xclient to connect to X-server. > > There are also many users who have this problem but are not > using Aventail. > As well the local xclients can't even connect to a remote > display (non > cygwin/xfree86). Also, eXceed works with Aventail with no problems. > > By your reasoning, telneting to port 6000 should also be stopped by > Aventail, but it isn't. If telnet can make a successful > TCP/IP connection > to localhost port 6000, why wouldn't the cygwin/xfree86 > xterm? This is the > point that I would like explained. What is telnet doing > different than the > X libraries? > > Chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 11:56:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:56:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D48@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Corinna is on this list I hope she might help. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:48 PM > To: 'Cygwin-Xfree' > Subject: Re: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:45:49PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Suhaib, > >> > >> currently I'm debugging the described socket problems with > >> kde 1.1.2 on > >> xfree and have one X related socket problem. > >> > >> On starting some clients I get very often (not every start) > >> this message > >> > >> _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed > >> > >> I can reproduce this error with xfree 4.03 from 2001/4/14 and > >> xfree 4.10 > >> from 2001/6/2 and cygwin 1.3.2. > >> With cygwin 1.1.8 this error don't occurs (that was the > >> reason, why I tended > >> to use cygwin 1.1.8 with kde) > > > >Well, we did not change anything for socket. This seems to > UNIX domain > >socket issue? I am not sure. If it works with Cygwin 1.1.8 > and gives > >error with 1.3.2, then Chris and/or Rob might give a better advice. > > Actually, that is probably Corinna's code. It sounds like > some kind of > problem with reusability of the socket. > > cgf > From dgun@umpire.com Thu Jun 14 11:57:00 2001 From: dgun@umpire.com (D G) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:57:00 -0000 Subject: PseudoColor visual supported? Message-ID: <20010614185728.16443.qmail@mail.com> I have heard (but not verified) that the PseudoColor visual is supported in Xfree86 4.0 even when in 16bit or higher depths. Is this supported in the cygwin version? If not now, any idea when? Right now, this is the only thing keeping me on a commercial X server. (PseudoColor is needed for a lot of legacy UNIX apps, and putting windows into 8bit color mode is a horrible solution.) Thanks, Daniel -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Make PC-to-Phone calls with Net2Phone. Sign-up today at: http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?121 From jasonday@mediaone.net Thu Jun 14 12:12:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:12:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: Message-ID: <20010614150245.C7880@spiderman.cherlon.com> Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:19:19AM +0000, Christopher Landrieu wrote: [snip] > First, as has been discussed previously on this list, and as many of you > kindly suggested in response to my original post, this problem IS related to > a VPN package that I have installed. I have Aventail Connect 3.21 installed > on both machines. I found that I can get local xclients to work by tweaking > the Aventail Connect configuration file to exclude those programs > explicitly. It is _alot_ of work, however, to put all of the xfree86 client > apps in this list. I would be *very* interested in knowing how exactly you tweaked your config file. I've been trying to do this as well without success. As a side note, I tried uninstalling Aventail, and all my X problems went away. Unfortunately, I had to reinstall Aventail :( [snip] Thanks, Jason -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Thu Jun 14 12:30:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:30:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D44@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <20010614144825.B17361@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010614213037.A340@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:48:25PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:45:49PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Suhaib, > >> > >> currently I'm debugging the described socket problems with > >> kde 1.1.2 on > >> xfree and have one X related socket problem. > >> > >> On starting some clients I get very often (not every start) > >> this message > >> > >> _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed > >> > >> I can reproduce this error with xfree 4.03 from 2001/4/14 and > >> xfree 4.10 > >> from 2001/6/2 and cygwin 1.3.2. > >> With cygwin 1.1.8 this error don't occurs (that was the > >> reason, why I tended > >> to use cygwin 1.1.8 with kde) > > > >Well, we did not change anything for socket. This seems to UNIX domain > >socket issue? I am not sure. If it works with Cygwin 1.1.8 and gives > >error with 1.3.2, then Chris and/or Rob might give a better advice. > > Actually, that is probably Corinna's code. It sounds like some kind of > problem with reusability of the socket. The only change we had in the accept() code between 1.1.8 and 1.3.2 was Egor's patch to support secure connections on AF_UNIX sockets. Is it possible that the security check fails under some circumstances here? However, a strace containing a failing accept() would perhaps help. -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From s_a_shaikh@yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 12:39:00 2001 From: s_a_shaikh@yahoo.com (Shamsul A Shaikh) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: Compiling Qt under cygwin References: Message-ID: Hi, Please check out the following link - our group (actually Ralf gets all the credit!!) is trying to get kde running for cygwin. In the process Ralf has released binaries for Qt 1.45 and 2.3.0. The source files as well as the diffs are present there too http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249 Thanks Shams > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of Nick > Whitelegg > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:29 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Compiling Qt under cygwin > > > > Hello, > > First of all I would just like to excuse myself by saying that I don't > currently have cygwin installed. However, I am writing a Qt-based free > software application under Linux, that I would like to make available > under Windows/Cygwin/X. > > On the web there are conflicting reports of success; the general > impression I get is that Qt1.4x tarballs will compile under Cygwin whereas > Qt2.x might not. > > So can anyone clarify the situation? > > Thanks, > Nick _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 12:43:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:43:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D49@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > Actually, that is probably Corinna's code. It sounds like > some kind of > > problem with reusability of the socket. > > The only change we had in the accept() code between 1.1.8 and > 1.3.2 was Egor's patch to support secure connections on AF_UNIX > sockets. Is it possible that the security check fails under > some circumstances here? > There is no security check in X11. > However, a strace containing a failing accept() would perhaps help. Ralf, should be able to send a strace directly to you. Ralf please do not post strace files to the list :-) thanks Suhaib > > -- > Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails > regarding Cygwin to > Cygwin Developer > mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com > Red Hat, Inc. > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 13:42:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:42:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D4B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the > title of the > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the window changes to > an X server window! > > My .xinitrc is standard: > #!/bin/bash > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > twm > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > #!/bin/bash > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 > -engine 4 Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if it works. Suhaib > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the same results. > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > > Many thanks for your fast response. > > Raymond > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > >> Everything works except > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin window comes > >> up but does not > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm then come up, > >> stay for a while > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > >> exit. I need to kill > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > > > > > We need more info. > > post your startxwin.bat > > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you use > startxwin.bat? > > > >> > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. I created > >> .xinitrc and > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to > >> XWin, > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you > explain what > > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or > x-server window, > > whatever. > > > > Suhaib > > > >> and after > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying "waiting for > >> X server to > >> begin accepting connections" followed by periods. If I kill > >> it by Ctrl-C, > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > >> directory (errno 2): > >> unexpected signal 2". > >> > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the > >> impression that > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > >> interesting to observe > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is > >> excruciatingly > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Raymond Kwong > >> > > > From kwong@control.toronto.edu Thu Jun 14 14:10:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:10:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <200106142115.RAA07891@thor.control.toronto.edu> I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't work. Should I try others? Raymond > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the > title of the > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the window changes to > an X server window! > > My .xinitrc is standard: > #!/bin/bash > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > twm > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > #!/bin/bash > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 > -engine 4 Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if it works. Suhaib > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the same results. > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > > Many thanks for your fast response. > > Raymond > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > >> Everything works except > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin window comes > >> up but does not > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm then come up, > >> stay for a while > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > >> exit. I need to kill > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > > > > > We need more info. > > post your startxwin.bat > > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you use > startxwin.bat? > > > >> > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. I created > >> .xinitrc and > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to > >> XWin, > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you > explain what > > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or > x-server window, > > whatever. > > > > Suhaib > > > >> and after > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying "waiting for > >> X server to > >> begin accepting connections" followed by periods. If I kill > >> it by Ctrl-C, > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > >> directory (errno 2): > >> unexpected signal 2". > >> > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the > >> impression that > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > >> interesting to observe > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is > >> excruciatingly > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Raymond Kwong > >> > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 14 14:55:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:55:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D4C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't > work. Should I > try others? > > Raymond No. It is not needed to test all possible resolutions. I will email a script in a couple of hours. What you need to do, copy that script to /usr/X11R6/bin directory, rename or move your .xinitrc and .xserverrc file for now. Then try to start Xserver using the script I will send. BTW: which version of Cygwin are you using? Suhaib > > > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the > > title of the > > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the window > changes to > > an X server window! > > > > My .xinitrc is standard: > > #!/bin/bash > > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > > twm > > > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > > #!/bin/bash > > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 > > -engine 4 > > > Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if it works. > > > Suhaib > > > > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the > same results. > > > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > > > > Many thanks for your fast response. > > > > Raymond > > > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > > >> Everything works except > > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin window comes > > >> up but does not > > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm then come up, > > >> stay for a while > > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > > >> exit. I need to kill > > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > > > > > > > > We need more info. > > > post your startxwin.bat > > > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you use > > startxwin.bat? > > > > > >> > > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. I created > > >> .xinitrc and > > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to > > >> XWin, > > > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you > > explain what > > > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or > > x-server window, > > > whatever. > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > >> and after > > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying "waiting for > > >> X server to > > >> begin accepting connections" followed by periods. If I kill > > >> it by Ctrl-C, > > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > > >> directory (errno 2): > > >> unexpected signal 2". > > >> > > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the > > >> impression that > > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > > >> interesting to observe > > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is > > >> excruciatingly > > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > >> > > >> Raymond Kwong > > >> > > > > > > > > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jun 14 15:50:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:50:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: Message-ID: <024101c0f524$872a0680$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Landrieu" > >From: "Robert Collins" > >To: "Christopher Landrieu" , > -----Original > >Message----- > > > From: Christopher Landrieu [ mailto:landrieu@hotmail.com ] > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > > - Aventail Connect does not have any affect on non-xfree86 > > > local xclients > > > (TeraTermSSH for example). Therefore, it IS possible to write local > > > xclients that are not impaired by the VPN software. > > > >Do you have any other examples? TeraTermSSH is not an X client. It is an > >SSH client, operates on a single well known port. > > > Actually, it is also behaving as a local xclient when using X Forwarding. > It tunnels X traffic from the remote machine (DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 on the > remote host) through the SSH tunnel and redirects it to localhost port 6000 > on the desktop. In this manner, it is behaving like a local xclient. It > doesn't do the actual X Protocol stuff, but it does the TCP/IP stuff and > gets the X Protocol stuff from the tunnel. Chris, the important point is that TeraTermSSH does not do TCP/IP with the xclient library code. I think we are all agreed that the X protocol per se is not the fault. > Unfortunately, I don't have any other xclients (other than Cygwin/xfree86) > to try. Do you have any recommendations? Uh yeah, try to establish answers to my fact finding questions suggested below. > > > - Aventail Connect does not screw up local TCP/IP traffic > > > to server > > > processes running on localhost. I tested this by running > > > Apache Jakarta's > > > Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 JSP/Servlet engine on localhost port 8080. > > > This should be > > > equivalent to xfree86 running on localhost at port 6000. I > > > am able to > > > access JSPs, servlets, and HTML pages at > > > http://localhost:8080 with a local > > > web browser with no problems at all. > > > >Are the requests being made from > >a) an unbound local port, > >b) a local port bound to 127.0.0.1 port ? or > >c) a local port bound to _the ethernet card/modem_ ip address > > Aren't all TCP/IP client programs unbound? They don't choose an individual > port. The operating system chooses the client's port. Thats why the port > is different each time the client tries to open the connection. The OS also > chooses what interface and IP address it should be bound to according to its > routing table. Am I wrong here? Its been a few years since I did much > socket UNIX programing. My guess would be that the answer would be "a)" for > all clients. Have you examined this or attempted to confirm your guess? I asked the question _because_ there are multiple answers. ... You are wrong about "all tcp/ip client programs unbound". TCP/IP client can ask for a random port on a random interface (a) or a specific port on a random interface (still a - I wasn't worried about the partocular port) or a random port on a given interface (one of b or c) or a specific port on a specific interface (one of b or c). > >These three things will appear different to Aventail Connect, and it may > >treat them differently. > >This will have bearing on the feasability of changing XFree86 to work > >around your problem. > >Also, for d,e and f the same question applies to the listening server, > >is it bound, unbound and if bound to what address. > > My understanding on the server side is that the server can either bind to a > specific port on a specific interface or it can bind to a specific port on > all interfaces (loopback, ethernet card, PPP dial-up connection, or what > have you). That particular version of Tomcat only allows you to bind all > interfaces (as opposed to one specific interface). I would guess that the X > server does the same, right? In any case, all servers must bind to a port > before listening on it, right? So then e and f are the only posibilities > for a server application. In this case Tomcat would be using f and I would > expect that xfree86 would do the same. Chris, your guesssing is not helping debug the problem. Binding to a specific port on all interfaces != being "unbound" where you bind to a port, and no specific interface. (Binding to all interfaces you need to call bind() multiple times oince for each interface). In any case, we need to _know_ what is happening on your machine. > > > - Aventail Connect prevents local xfree86 xclients from > > > displaying on > > > _remote_ X servers. Yet, no other client TCP/IP programs are > > > affected > > > (telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. - to the same remote host... so > > > networking is fine). > > > >Same two questions as before (local unbound vs local bound 127.0.0.1 vs > >lcoal bound to wire) > > > > Same answers (and questions) as before. > > > > - No other applications other than xfree86 xclients are > > > affected by the > > > Aventail Connect software. Even other cygwin programs, which > > > I expect to > > > use the same networking APIs and features, are _not_ impared > > > by the VPN > > > software. > > > >Thats good to know. > > > > > - The TCP/IP part of it is working. I found this by > > > sniffing packets > > > between my win2k machine and a linux box using ethereal. I ran > > > Cygwin/xfree86's xterm on win2k with the display set to the > > > linux boxes' > > > display (with "xhost +" on the linux box). I did this with > > > and with out the > > > Aventail Connect config file tweak (so it was successful for > > > one try and > > > failed on the other). What I found was that the TCP socket > > > is successfully > > > establed in both cases. But, in the case where the the tweak was not > > > applied (the failed X connect), the win2k machine closed the > > > connection > > > immediately after openning it. In fact it sent two > > > acknowledgements to the > > > linux boxes' SYN/ACK packet. The first acknowledgement was > > > simply just an > > > acknowledgement (no other TCP flags set). The second packet > > > had both ACK > > > and FIN set. Both packets sent the exact same TCP sequence > > > numbers and > > > acknowledgement numbers (without a "next sequence number"). > > > >That sounds to me like Aventail dropping the connection. > > What is your reasoning? You see the beginning of a normal 3-way handshake, and then a ack|fin packet. That looks like a program other than the one listening on the socket interfering with the tcp session to get the remote end to drop it. > > > - I have experienced no other networking problems with either test > > > machine. > > > > > > Now I at least have a work around for the problem. However, > > > I still believe > > > that the problem should be fixed and _is_ fixable within > > > Cygwin and/or > > > xfree86. > > > >We cannot work around every vendors bugs :]. True - this may not be an > >Aventail Connect problem but all the indications so far are that it is. > > > > > > But it seems just as likely that it is an Xfree 86 problem as well. I > totally agree that other apps' bugs should remain other apps' bugs, but it > seems like alot of people have been having this same problem... even without > running VPN software. To the best of my knowledge there is 1 windows 98 SE user with the problem, and a bunch that had VPN related issues. There are a bunch with other VPN products with no issues :-]. Occam's razor suggests that it's not the VPN capability, but the way in which Aventail Connect and XFree86 are interacting. This will be happening at the TCP/IP level, which is why the answers to my prior questions are needed to make progress. Rob > > I appreciate your comments and questions. > > Chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From landrieu@hotmail.com Thu Jun 14 22:27:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:27:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: >From: Jason Day >To: Christopher Landrieu > >I would be *very* interested in knowing how exactly you tweaked your config >file. I've been trying to do this as well without success. > >As a side note, I tried uninstalling Aventail, and all my X problems went >away. Unfortunately, I had to reinstall Aventail :( >Thanks, >Jason Jason, I'm in the same boat as you. I probably wouldn't care too much about this except that I need to use Aventail to access my employer's network. I work 100% at a customer site for my job and don't even have an office at any of my employer's sites to use on occasion. Therefore, I use it from home and at the customer's site to access my employer's intranet. I'm stuck. And I'm sure as hell not going to buy a full license for a commercial X package. Anyway, what I did was add xterm.exe, twm.exe, xclock.exe, etc. in the "Secure all applications except listed" list. This is on the Advanced tab in the Aventail config tool. I also found that my config file had a redirection rule for 127.0.0.1 that I changed to "Do not redirect" but it turned out that it doesn't have any effect on the problem either way. Good luck, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From landrieu@hotmail.com Thu Jun 14 23:12:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:12:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: >From: "Robert Collins" >Chris, the important point is that TeraTermSSH does not do TCP/IP with >the xclient library code. I think we are all agreed that the X protocol >per se is not the fault. That is where I believe the problem is happening (in the xclient library code). I absolutely agree that it is not the XProtocol layer that is at fault. I believe it is how the xclient library code is trying to setup or use the socket connection. It may be setting some socket options or TCP options that are not properly or fully supported by cygwin's implementation of the socket APIs. Or, maybe cygwin's socket API implementation is using some funky features that Aventail breaks. What I would like to understand is: what are the xclient libs doing beyond the usual socket()...connect()...send() & recv()...close() sequence. Since no other cygwin programs seem to be affected by Aventail, there must be something here that the xclient libs are doing different. > > to try. Do you have any recommendations? > >Uh yeah, try to establish answers to my fact finding questions suggested >below. Sorry, I meant any suggestions for other xclients (non-cygwin/xfree86) that I could test with. I don't know many other free xclient apps for windows. >Have you examined this or attempted to confirm your guess? I asked the >question _because_ there are multiple answers. I've done my share of client/server socket programming and, in general, the following model is used in the most architectures: clients: socket()...connect()...[ send() & recv() ]...close() servers: socket()...bind()...listen()...[ accept()...[ send() & recv() ] ]...close() (where square brackets [] denote loops) I haven't yet looked at the socket calls in TeraTermSSH but you can see that it is generally what is happening by playing with netstat. It will show you sshd listening to port 6010 on the remote host and you can see TeraTermSSH's connection from localhost random-port to localhost port 6000. It is this local connection that should be equivalent to the cygwin/xfree86 xterm connecting to localhost port 6000. >... You are wrong about "all tcp/ip client programs unbound". TCP/IP >client can ask for a random port on a random interface (a) ... which is basically just a socket() call and a connect(). In this case thereis no opportunity to specify a source interface and port number. >or a specific >port on a random interface (still a - I wasn't worried about the >partocular port) ... huh? How would you do that? >or a random port on a given interface (one of b or c) ... Again, huh? How? >or a specific port on a specific interface (one of b or c). ... using socket()...bind(), which is what server apps do. >Chris, your guesssing is not helping debug the problem. Binding to a >specific port on all interfaces != being "unbound" where you bind to a >port, and no specific interface. (Binding to all interfaces you need to >call bind() multiple times oince for each interface). Actually, this is untrue. If you specify INADDR_ANY in the bind call, all local interfaces are bound to one socket at the specified port. > > >That sounds to me like Aventail dropping the connection. > > > > What is your reasoning? > >You see the beginning of a normal 3-way handshake, and then a ack|fin >packet. That looks like a program other than the one listening on the >socket interfering with the tcp session to get the remote end to drop >it. Oh... good thinking. I hadn't considered that possibility. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jun 14 23:29:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:29:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Landrieu [ mailto:landrieu@hotmail.com ] > > > >From: "Robert Collins" > > > to try. Do you have any recommendations? > > > >Uh yeah, try to establish answers to my fact finding > questions suggested > >below. > > Sorry, I meant any suggestions for other xclients > (non-cygwin/xfree86) that > I could test with. I don't know many other free xclient apps > for windows. Unless you have access to Exceed or something like that, no suggestions sorry. > >Have you examined this or attempted to confirm your guess? I > asked the > >question _because_ there are multiple answers. > > I've done my share of client/server socket programming and, > in general, the > following model is used in the most architectures: > > I haven't yet looked at the socket calls in TeraTermSSH but > you can see that > it is generally what is happening by playing with netstat. > It will show you > sshd listening to port 6010 on the remote host and you can > see TeraTermSSH's > connection from localhost random-port to localhost port 6000. > It is this > local connection that should be equivalent to the > cygwin/xfree86 xterm > connecting to localhost port 6000. A better tool to play with is http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/tdimon.shtml TDIMon, which will let you see the actual calls being made. > >... You are wrong about "all tcp/ip client programs unbound". TCP/IP > >client can ask for a random port on a random interface (a) > > > >or a specific > >port on a random interface (still a - I wasn't worried about the > >partocular port) > > ... huh? How would you do that? I'm not sure... check the ssh client source code. It does something similar. > >or a specific port on a specific interface (one of b or c). > > ... using socket()...bind(), which is what server apps do. for outbound connections? I didn't think bind() was appropriate for that. Well live and learn(). > >Chris, your guesssing is not helping debug the problem. Binding to a > >specific port on all interfaces != being "unbound" where you > bind to a > >port, and no specific interface. (Binding to all interfaces > you need to > >call bind() multiple times oince for each interface). > > Actually, this is untrue. If you specify INADDR_ANY in the > bind call, all > local interfaces are bound to one socket at the specified port. Ah. Ok I'll cede that - I know TCP/IP much better than socket programming. Rob From Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com Fri Jun 15 01:45:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com (Ralf Habacker) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:45:00 -0000 Subject: AW: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D49@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <000001c0f577$dec63960$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> > > > > Actually, that is probably Corinna's code. It sounds like > > some kind of > > > problem with reusability of the socket. > > > > The only change we had in the accept() code between 1.1.8 and > > 1.3.2 was Egor's patch to support secure connections on AF_UNIX > > sockets. Is it possible that the security check fails under > > some circumstances here? > > > > There is no security check in X11. > > > > However, a strace containing a failing accept() would perhaps help. > > Ralf, should be able to send a strace directly to you. > Ralf please do not post strace files to the list :-) > I will try, but the difficulty is that on stracing the error does not occure. I will analyze it in more detail ... an example ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Habacker@BRAMSCHE /usr/local/kde1/bin $ kcmkpanel -init kcmkpanel: Fatal IO error: client killed _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ... starting again Habacker@BRAMSCHE /usr/local/kde1/bin $ kcmkpanel -init _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept() failed kcmkpanel: Fatal IO error: client killed ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ... starting with strace -> xserver restart Habacker@BRAMSCHE /usr/local/kde1/bin $ strace -o x kcmkpanel -init winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 height 768 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ... starting with gdb -> xserver restart Habacker@BRAMSCHE /usr/local/kde1/bin $ gdb -nw kcmkpanel GNU gdb 5.0 (20010428-1) Copyright 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-cygwin"... (gdb) set args -init (gdb) r Starting program: /usr/local/kde1/bin/kcmkpanel.exe -init Program exited normally. (gdb) winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 height 768 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- As you can see the socket error only occurs when !straceing && !debugging Perhaps Suhaib can answer me a question: I have started an app and it seems that the xserver has been restarted. Can you tell me which conditions could be for restarting X -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 -ac ./kcminput.exe winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 height 768 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Done anyone have an idea ? Regards Ralf From cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Fri Jun 15 02:28:00 2001 From: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:28:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D49@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <000001c0f577$dec63960$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20010615112802.B4107@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:47:55AM +0200, Ralf Habacker wrote: > > > > > > Actually, that is probably Corinna's code. It sounds like > > > some kind of > > > > problem with reusability of the socket. > > > > > > The only change we had in the accept() code between 1.1.8 and > > > 1.3.2 was Egor's patch to support secure connections on AF_UNIX > > > sockets. Is it possible that the security check fails under > > > some circumstances here? > > > > > > > There is no security check in X11. > > > > > > > However, a strace containing a failing accept() would perhaps help. > > > > Ralf, should be able to send a strace directly to you. > > Ralf please do not post strace files to the list :-) > > > I will try, but the difficulty is that on stracing the error does not > occure. I will analyze it in more detail ... > > an example > [...] The problem is that we can't see any reason why accept fails. If it's in fact the Winsock call, we would at least need a Winsock error code. If it's Egor's additional code we would see an appropriate message in the strace. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From deo@logos-m.ru Fri Jun 15 02:38:00 2001 From: deo@logos-m.ru (egor duda) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:38:00 -0000 Subject: AW: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? References: <000001c0f577$dec63960$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <4378734854.20010615133643@logos-m.ru> Hi! Friday, 15 June, 2001 Ralf Habacker Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com wrote: >> > The only change we had in the accept() code between 1.1.8 and >> > 1.3.2 was Egor's patch to support secure connections on AF_UNIX >> > sockets. Is it possible that the security check fails under >> > some circumstances here? you can apply this to cygwin sources, rebuild cygwin1.dll and see if it helps. this disables security checks i've added to AF_UNIX socket code. if it helps, then there may be some problem with my code. Index: net.cc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cygwin/net.cc,v retrieving revision 1.57 diff -u -p -1 -r1.57 net.cc --- net.cc 2001/06/03 22:18:19 1.57 +++ net.cc 2001/06/15 09:27:01 @@ -765,2 +765,3 @@ cygwin_connect (int fd, } +#if 0 if (sock->get_addr_family () == AF_UNIX) @@ -793,2 +794,3 @@ cygwin_connect (int fd, } +#endif } @@ -902,3 +904,3 @@ cygwin_accept (int fd, struct sockaddr * res = accept (sock->get_socket (), peer, len); // can't use a blocking call inside a lock - +#if 0 if (sock->get_addr_family () == AF_UNIX) @@ -934,3 +936,3 @@ cygwin_accept (int fd, struct sockaddr * } - +#endif SetResourceLock (LOCK_FD_LIST, WRITE_LOCK|READ_LOCK, "accept"); RH> I will try, but the difficulty is that on stracing the error does not RH> occure. I will analyze it in more detail ... RH> an example [...] RH> Done anyone have an idea ? unfortunately, i don't have kde installed so i can't get any meaningful explanation of all those debug outputs. i suspect, however, that this accept()-involved code could be somehow reduced to small testcase. you have already sent some bits to cygwin mailing list, and, if i understand them correctly, it has some weird sequences of calls such as 'conenect() to socket and then accept() on it without closing it beforehand'. is that so? if you'll be able to extract socket-related code that fails into reasonably small and self-contained program, i'll be able to debug it. Egor. mailto:deo@logos-m.ru ICQ 5165414 FidoNet 2:5020/496.19 From deo@logos-m.ru Fri Jun 15 02:45:00 2001 From: deo@logos-m.ru (egor duda) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:45:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D49@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <000001c0f577$dec63960$6e032bb7@BRAMSCHE> <20010615112802.B4107@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <19179124004.20010615134312@logos-m.ru> Hi! Friday, 15 June, 2001 Corinna Vinschen cygwin-apps@cygwin.com wrote: >> > > However, a strace containing a failing accept() would perhaps help. >> > >> > Ralf, should be able to send a strace directly to you. >> > Ralf please do not post strace files to the list :-) >> > >> I will try, but the difficulty is that on stracing the error does not >> occure. I will analyze it in more detail ... CV> The problem is that we can't see any reason why accept fails. CV> If it's in fact the Winsock call, we would at least need a CV> Winsock error code. If it's Egor's additional code we would CV> see an appropriate message in the strace. i suppose it may be some kind of race. strace slows program and timing issues may disappear if program is run under strace. Ralf, have you tried '-b 65000' option to strace? it adds additional buffering and speeds things up in some extent. some problems that disappear when you run a program under strace without this option, appear back when you add '-b 65000' to strace parameters. Egor. mailto:deo@logos-m.ru ICQ 5165414 FidoNet 2:5020/496.19 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 04:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:01:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D50@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > Sorry, I meant any suggestions for other xclients > > (non-cygwin/xfree86) that > > I could test with. I don't know many other free xclient apps > > for windows. > > Unless you have access to Exceed or something like that, no > suggestions > sorry. Exceed comes with bare minimum xclients. Could you try server and Xclients from win32-x11 project ( http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11 ). The clients and server from there do not use Cygwin. The X uses only TC/IP connection, while Cygwin/XFree86 uses UNIX domain socket. Things to try, 1) If you could display xclients from win32-x11 over Cygwin/Xfree86. 2) try to display xclients from Cygwin/Xfree86 over win32-x11 server. Suhaib > > > >Have you examined this or attempted to confirm your guess? I > > asked the > > >question _because_ there are multiple answers. > > > > I've done my share of client/server socket programming and, > > in general, the > > following model is used in the most architectures: > > > > I haven't yet looked at the socket calls in TeraTermSSH but > > you can see that > > it is generally what is happening by playing with netstat. > > It will show you > > sshd listening to port 6010 on the remote host and you can > > see TeraTermSSH's > > connection from localhost random-port to localhost port 6000. > > It is this > > local connection that should be equivalent to the > > cygwin/xfree86 xterm > > connecting to localhost port 6000. > > A better tool to play with is > http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/tdimon.shtml TDIMon, which > will let you see the actual calls being made. > > > >... You are wrong about "all tcp/ip client programs > unbound". TCP/IP > > >client can ask for a random port on a random interface (a) > > > > > > >or a specific > > >port on a random interface (still a - I wasn't worried about the > > >partocular port) > > > > ... huh? How would you do that? > > I'm not sure... check the ssh client source code. It does something > similar. > > > >or a specific port on a specific interface (one of b or c). > > > > ... using socket()...bind(), which is what server apps do. > > for outbound connections? I didn't think bind() was appropriate for > that. Well live and learn(). > > > >Chris, your guesssing is not helping debug the problem. > Binding to a > > >specific port on all interfaces != being "unbound" where you > > bind to a > > >port, and no specific interface. (Binding to all interfaces > > you need to > > >call bind() multiple times oince for each interface). > > > > Actually, this is untrue. If you specify INADDR_ANY in the > > bind call, all > > local interfaces are bound to one socket at the specified port. > > Ah. Ok I'll cede that - I know TCP/IP much better than socket > programming. > > Rob > From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Fri Jun 15 04:12:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: XFree 4.1.0 fails to build!!! Message-ID: <200106151112.f5FBCnf97504@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> I am trying to build XFree from source version 4.1.0. I have tried numerous times, but unfortunately, it fails every time. I build with the following : make World >& world.log It goes for a while... builds imake, makes the Makefiles, makes clean, and starts to make the fonts. When it makes the fonts, it gets pretty far through, and fails with the error: fork_copy: user/cygwin data pass 2 failed, 0x4590000..0x4823000, done 0, Win32 error 8 It does this numerous times until the following happens : handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_STACK_OVERFLOW stackdump: Dumping staci trace to MAKE.EXE.stackdump. Any Ideas? I am using the cygwin 1.3.1 DLL, and the updated tools when it was released. I am updating my tools again, but I am not convinced that that is going to help. Thanks, Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 04:13:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:13:00 -0000 Subject: accept() failed message on kde 1.1.2 ?? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D51@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > As you can see the socket error only occurs when !straceing > && !debugging > > Perhaps Suhaib can answer me a question: > > I have started an app and it seems that the xserver has been > restarted. Can > you tell me which conditions > could be for restarting > > X -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 -ac I do not see any reasons why this command will restart the X-server. > > ./kcminput.exe Something going on here and xwin is commain is being re-executed???? Suhaib > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 > height 768 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > > Done anyone have an idea ? > > Regards > Ralf > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 04:15:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:15:00 -0000 Subject: XFree 4.1.0 fails to build!!! Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D52@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > I am trying to build XFree from source version 4.1.0. I have > tried numerous > times, but unfortunately, it fails every time. I build with > the following : > make World >& world.log It goes for a while... builds imake, > makes the > Makefiles, makes clean, and starts to make the fonts. > > When it makes the fonts, it gets pretty far through, and > fails with the error: > fork_copy: user/cygwin data pass 2 failed, > 0x4590000..0x4823000, done 0, Win32 > error 8 > > It does this numerous times until the following happens : > handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_STACK_OVERFLOW > stackdump: Dumping staci trace to MAKE.EXE.stackdump. > > Any Ideas? I am using the cygwin 1.3.1 DLL, and the updated > tools when it was > released. I am updating my tools again, but I am not > convinced that that is > going to help. Let's know if you get same problem with Cygwin 1.3.2. Thanks Suhaib > > Thanks, > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 04:30:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:30:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D53@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > Sorry, I meant any suggestions for other xclients > (non-cygwin/xfree86) that > I could test with. I don't know many other free xclient apps > for windows. > > > > >Have you examined this or attempted to confirm your guess? I > asked the > >question _because_ there are multiple answers. > > I've done my share of client/server socket programming and, > in general, the > following model is used in the most architectures: X uses similar model. > > clients: socket()...connect()...[ send() & recv() ]...close() > > servers: socket()...bind()...listen()...[ accept()...[ send() > & recv() ] > ]...close() > > (where square brackets [] denote loops) > > I haven't yet looked at the socket calls in TeraTermSSH but > you can see that > it is generally what is happening by playing with netstat. > It will show you > sshd listening to port 6010 on the remote host and you can > see TeraTermSSH's > connection from localhost random-port to localhost port 6000. Why TeraTermSSH is connecting to port 6000 when X is listening at that port? TeraTermSSH is not an Xclients. Is it randomly conneting to any port it can, either it is avialable or not??? > It is this > local connection that should be equivalent to the > cygwin/xfree86 xterm > connecting to localhost port 6000. not necessary. Do a netstat -a on a Linux or any other UNIX box. You will notice what is going on. Suhaib > > > >... You are wrong about "all tcp/ip client programs unbound". TCP/IP > >client can ask for a random port on a random interface (a) > > ... which is basically just a socket() call and a connect(). > In this case > thereis no opportunity to specify a source interface and port number. > > >or a specific > >port on a random interface (still a - I wasn't worried about the > >partocular port) > > ... huh? How would you do that? > > >or a random port on a given interface (one of b or c) > > ... Again, huh? How? > > >or a specific port on a specific interface (one of b or c). > > ... using socket()...bind(), which is what server apps do. > > > >Chris, your guesssing is not helping debug the problem. Binding to a > >specific port on all interfaces != being "unbound" where you > bind to a > >port, and no specific interface. (Binding to all interfaces > you need to > >call bind() multiple times oince for each interface). > > Actually, this is untrue. If you specify INADDR_ANY in the > bind call, all > local interfaces are bound to one socket at the specified port. > > > > > >That sounds to me like Aventail dropping the connection. > > > > > > What is your reasoning? > > > >You see the beginning of a normal 3-way handshake, and then a ack|fin > >packet. That looks like a program other than the one listening on the > >socket interfering with the tcp session to get the remote end to drop > >it. > > Oh... good thinking. I hadn't considered that possibility. > > Chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 04:37:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:37:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D54@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> >> > I'm in the same boat as you. I probably wouldn't care too > much about this > except that I need to use Aventail to access my employer's > network. I work > 100% at a customer site for my job and don't even have an > office at any of > my employer's sites to use on occasion. Therefore, I use it > from home and > at the customer's site to access my employer's intranet. I'm > stuck. And > I'm sure as hell not going to buy a full license for a > commercial X package. > > Anyway, what I did was add xterm.exe, twm.exe, xclock.exe, > etc. in the > "Secure all applications except listed" list. This is on the > Advanced tab > in the Aventail config tool. This could not be a lot of work? There are around 16-20 xlcients which are supplied with XFree86. If Aventail is screwing up every X11 display and forwarding, either locally or remote, then it is annoying because you will need to edit your exceptions list every time you use X. Then again it goes back to Aventail being the culprit. I do not have this problem with CheckPoint SecureRemote to access my company's interanet from home. Now why CheckPoint does not screw up the X11 display and Aventail does. For local PC firewall, ZoneLab's ZoneAlaram was screwing display just like your Aventail does, even after adding to exceptions list, some clients were still refused connection, particularly ZoneAlaram was screwing Vi over X very good. On the other hand TinyFriewall from TinySoftware does not have this problem. My argument is Xfree86 works with one VPN and/or Firewall and other VPN/Firewall will screw the display, so is it not the VPN/Firewall software fault???? Suhaib >I also found that my config file had a > redirection rule for 127.0.0.1 that I changed to "Do not > redirect" but it > turned out that it doesn't have any effect on the problem either way. > > Good luck, > > Chris > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Fri Jun 15 07:37:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:37:00 -0000 Subject: XFree 4.1.0 fails to build!!! References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D52@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <200106151437.f5FEbtV27402@pilot19.cl.msu.edu> I tried the build with the most updated cygwin tools, including cygwin1.dll v. 1.3.2. I got the same problem... Any ideas? Thanks, Brian > > > > > I am trying to build XFree from source version 4.1.0. I have > > tried numerous > > times, but unfortunately, it fails every time. I build with > > the following : > > make World >& world.log It goes for a while... builds imake, > > makes the > > Makefiles, makes clean, and starts to make the fonts. > > > > When it makes the fonts, it gets pretty far through, and > > fails with the error: > > fork_copy: user/cygwin data pass 2 failed, > > 0x4590000..0x4823000, done 0, Win32 > > error 8 > > > > It does this numerous times until the following happens : > > handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_STACK_OVERFLOW > > stackdump: Dumping staci trace to MAKE.EXE.stackdump. > > > > Any Ideas? I am using the cygwin 1.3.1 DLL, and the updated > > tools when it was > > released. I am updating my tools again, but I am not > > convinced that that is > > going to help. > > > Let's know if you get same problem with Cygwin 1.3.2. > > Thanks > > Suhaib > > > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sridhar_ml@yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 09:35:00 2001 From: sridhar_ml@yahoo.com (Sridhar Boovaraghavan) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:35:00 -0000 Subject: Running out of resources References: <15144.64331.705000.437139@doit.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <15146.14689.241000.518598@doit.wisc.edu> Suhaib Siddiqi writes: > > >> Interestingly, the X server and the local bash windows that show up as >> processes on my task list do not seem to be consuming a lot of >> memory. I don't see the remote emacs listed, nor the amount of >> resources it is using up. > > >How much memory do you? Win2K is a memory hog. I had this problem on a >Win2K >machine with 128 MB RAM. It turns out Win2K was the culprit, after boosting > >the memory to 512 MB RAM with 200 MB Pagefile, it started sorta behaving... >Have you applied Service Pack 1? It fixes some of the serious memory >problems on Win2K. I have 256MB. My original e-mail talks about how the physical memory available drops down to near 5K before it crashes. The strange thing is that the total memory (pagefile + physical) is set to about 1.2GB, but I never see it going beyond 490MB. Anything else I can do to make this better? Yes, I have Service Pack 2 applied. > >> >> The vtwm window just disappears so I cannot see any log/errors >> etc. Does it write the errors out to a certain file? >> >> The main startwin.bat file contains these lines: >> >> -- >> xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X >> server "127.0.0.1:0.0 >> " >> xterm: fatal IO error 113 (The connection was aborted) or >> KillClient on X serve >> r "127.0.0.1:0.0" >> -- > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this cannot be in startxwin.bat????? What I mean is that in the startwin.bat window, I see these errors after it crashes. Is there a log/core dump where I can see what happened? Sridhar -- Sridhar Boovaraghavan sridhar_ml@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/sridhar_ml/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 09:40:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:40:00 -0000 Subject: Running out of resources Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D58@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > >How much memory do you? Win2K is a memory hog. I had this > problem on a > >Win2K > >machine with 128 MB RAM. It turns out Win2K was the > culprit, after boosting > > > >the memory to 512 MB RAM with 200 MB Pagefile, it started > sorta behaving... > >Have you applied Service Pack 1? It fixes some of the > serious memory > >problems on Win2K. > > I have 256MB. My original e-mail talks about how the physical memory > available drops down to near 5K before it crashes. The strange thing > is that the total memory (pagefile + physical) is set to about 1.2GB, > but I never see it going beyond 490MB. Anything else I can do to make > this better? > > Yes, I have Service Pack 2 applied. This Windows issue, therefore I suggest you go to http://msdn.microsoft.com and do a search there. You might find a knowledgebase article on how to fix it. Suhaib > > > > >> > >> The vtwm window just disappears so I cannot see any log/errors > >> etc. Does it write the errors out to a certain file? > >> > >> The main startwin.bat file contains these lines: > >> > >> -- > >> xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X > >> server "127.0.0.1:0.0 > >> " > >> xterm: fatal IO error 113 (The connection was aborted) or > >> KillClient on X serve > >> r "127.0.0.1:0.0" > >> -- > > > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this cannot be in startxwin.bat????? > > What I mean is that in the startwin.bat window, I see these errors > after it crashes. > > Is there a log/core dump where I can see what happened? > > Sridhar > -- > Sridhar Boovaraghavan > sridhar_ml@yahoo.com > http://www.geocities.com/sridhar_ml/ > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 09:43:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:43:00 -0000 Subject: XFree 4.1.0 fails to build!!! Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D59@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I do not know what to say... maybe ask at Cygwin mailing list. It is not a xfree86 issue, if I am not mistaken, but cygwin1.dll, make or whatever... I do not know... Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:38 AM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Cc: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re: XFree 4.1.0 fails to build!!! > > > I tried the build with the most updated cygwin tools, > including cygwin1.dll v. > 1.3.2. I got the same problem... Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to build XFree from source version 4.1.0. I have > > > tried numerous > > > times, but unfortunately, it fails every time. I build with > > > the following : > > > make World >& world.log It goes for a while... builds imake, > > > makes the > > > Makefiles, makes clean, and starts to make the fonts. > > > > > > When it makes the fonts, it gets pretty far through, and > > > fails with the error: > > > fork_copy: user/cygwin data pass 2 failed, > > > 0x4590000..0x4823000, done 0, Win32 > > > error 8 > > > > > > It does this numerous times until the following happens : > > > handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_STACK_OVERFLOW > > > stackdump: Dumping staci trace to MAKE.EXE.stackdump. > > > > > > Any Ideas? I am using the cygwin 1.3.1 DLL, and the updated > > > tools when it was > > > released. I am updating my tools again, but I am not > > > convinced that that is > > > going to help. > > > > > > Let's know if you get same problem with Cygwin 1.3.2. > > > > Thanks > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From ewu@eskimo.com Fri Jun 15 09:59:00 2001 From: ewu@eskimo.com (Enoch Wu) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:59:00 -0000 Subject: XFree 4.1.0 fails to build!!! References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D52@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <200106151437.f5FEbtV27402@pilot19.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20010615101650.A3991713@MELON> Hi, I don't know the answer to this. All I can say is that configure scripts run better without the IO redirection. Thus, try: make World without the IO redirection. Let us know because I want to compile xfree 4.10. I compiled xfree 4.03 successfully and I am not ready to screw up my good X build. Hope that helps EW On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:37:55AM -0400, Brian Michael Genisio wrote: > I tried the build with the most updated cygwin tools, including cygwin1.dll v. > 1.3.2. I got the same problem... Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to build XFree from source version 4.1.0. I have > > > tried numerous > > > times, but unfortunately, it fails every time. I build with > > > the following : > > > make World >& world.log It goes for a while... builds imake, > > > makes the > > > Makefiles, makes clean, and starts to make the fonts. > > > > > > When it makes the fonts, it gets pretty far through, and > > > fails with the error: > > > fork_copy: user/cygwin data pass 2 failed, > > > 0x4590000..0x4823000, done 0, Win32 > > > error 8 > > > > > > It does this numerous times until the following happens : > > > handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_STACK_OVERFLOW > > > stackdump: Dumping staci trace to MAKE.EXE.stackdump. > > > > > > Any Ideas? I am using the cygwin 1.3.1 DLL, and the updated > > > tools when it was > > > released. I am updating my tools again, but I am not > > > convinced that that is > > > going to help. > > > > > > Let's know if you get same problem with Cygwin 1.3.2. > > > > Thanks > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > \\|// Brian Genisio > > > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > > > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > From fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch Fri Jun 15 10:30:00 2001 From: fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch (Pellegrino Fabio) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:30:00 -0000 Subject: Fatal Error 104 and a low resolution Message-ID: <000001c0f5bf$a7cf1920$d789023e@cablecom.ch> Hi, If I'm sending this Email to the wrong place, please excuse me, I am a newbie in the world of cygnus and Xfree. I downloaded the cygwin and the Xfree in Windows 98 SE as it is explained three days ago, and I have installed it. After the installation I started the startxwin.bat from a MS-Dos Prompt, and it's telling me for first, that it is running out of resources. Then several MS-Dos Prompts open and the Zone Alarm Firewall ask the permissions for RXVT.exe and then for Xwin.exe, Xterm and for last twm. But no difference what I make (If I give the permission or not) all the MS-Dos prompts closes and it remains the startxwin Window who is terminated. But for one time, the X Server showed up and closed after a few seconds. Naturally, I looked for a answer in the mailing lists, and I tried several things, but nothing helped. Then, as mentioned in the installation note, I tried to run X Server from the cygwin bash shell, but it doesnt work. In a lucky case the X Server started, but in a very low resolution and the window was really small. Usually, every time I start the X Server from the bash shell, I get this anwer: _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Window Client width 640 height 480 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 000f800 000007 e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server " :0.0" After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Waiting for X server to shut down. Here is my startxwin.bat file: @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine -4 start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e bash start rxvt -fn "Lucidia Console-12" start twm I checked also my resolution in the Windows System, and it set at 16 and my graphic card is a Chips 65555. The only time, that the X Server showed up, it seems like to be in RGB mode... I don't know, if I must have an initial file like .emacs or .bashrc. I think not, on the how-to page it is not mentioned, or I haven't seen it. Could someone give me a good advise in this really basic configuration, I think? Thank You in advance Fabio From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 15 13:47:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:47:00 -0000 Subject: Running out of resources Message-ID: Sridhar, Sounds to me like you have found a memory leak either in Cygwin/XFree86, or in Cygwin proper. I really doubt that Windows is the problem here. However, I need to know which graphics engine Cygwin/XFree86 is using in order to search for any leaks. When you start XWin.exe, you should see several lines of output, one of them will look like this: winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking I need you to send me (cc the list too) that line from your XWin.exe startup, then I can start double checking the code. Thanks, Harold From mathezer@yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 14:52:00 2001 From: mathezer@yahoo.com (Stephen Mathezer) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:52:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D53@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010615155639.A4367@yahoo.com> I have been watching this thread closely but I haven't piped up until now because I don't really have a lot to offer. First off, I have a friend running Windows ME who is encountering exactly the same symptoms in every detail. He does not have ANY VPN software installed on his machine. THIS PROBLEM IS *NOT* restricted to VPN users, at least there are quite a few more than 1 (I checked the archives) without a VPN client that have the problem. I posted a question on behalf of my buddy a month or so ago and received no response. Since he isn't on the list and I don't have the problem, I haven't had much to say on this one as I figured that I can't be of much help. I do have a few comments though (OK, I got a little long winded below but I think this thread needs to be brought back to the relevant points) Kudos to Robert for politely explaining the same things over and over due to people not reading what he is saying. I will reiterate a couple of points here, and let me point out that if I was one of the list regulars/developers I would simply say something like "check the archives this has been answered before", or maybe I'd just provide a one-liner url to the archived message. -Telnet to localhost:6000 is, while not complete in all respects, at least a decent indication that the VPN client is not doing something as basic as blocking all connections to localhost:6000 as some seem to imply. Can somebody please explain to me why TerreTermSSH X forwarding (see below), displaying remote X clients on the cygwin server, and telnet to localhost:6000 all work if the VPN software is truly blocking ports. -Since the problem occurs even if the VPN client is not running, it is obviously not some case of the VPN client not allowing split-tunneling or something like that. This has to come down to some interaction with the TCP stack. Then again, why does adding exceptions to the VPN client cause things to work even when the client isn't running? -TeraTermSSH (like any SSH client) can forward X windows connections from remote machines. This requires the SSH client running under 98 to connect to localhost:6000 to proxy the X windows request that it is forwarding over the encrypted channel from the remote machine. This has been repeated ad nauseum on the list. TeraTermSSH is a perfectly good example of an X Windows client that works. That being said, it certainly would make sense to try another. -X servers typically (and yes I just checked mine) listen on ALL local IP addresses (ie *.6000). Clients will connect from some random source port to port 6000 on $DISPLAY. I too would have tended to blame the VPN client on this one except for the fact that other X clients do work. Trying another X client and another X server would certainly provide more info. A couple of things that I haven't seen suggested which may be worth trying arei: -Running something similar to ktrace or truss (does sysinternals have something similar?) against both client and server. -Getting debug versions of client and server and running the client under GDB and/or attaching to the server and following the logic where the connection is failing. -As has been suggested by othersi, trying other clients to cygwin server and cygwin clients to other server would be very valuable. -Steve _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From sridhar_ml@yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 15:43:00 2001 From: sridhar_ml@yahoo.com (Sridhar Boovaraghavan) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: Running out of resources References: <15144.64331.705000.437139@doit.wisc.edu> <15146.14689.241000.518598@doit.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <15146.36764.217000.483891@doit.wisc.edu> Harold Hunt writes: >Sounds to me like you have found a memory leak either in Cygwin/XFree86, or >in Cygwin proper. I really doubt that Windows is the problem here. > >However, I need to know which graphics engine Cygwin/XFree86 is using in >order to search for any leaks. When you start XWin.exe, you should see >several lines of output, one of them will look like this: >winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > >I need you to send me (cc the list too) that line from your XWin.exe >startup, then I can start double checking the code. Thanks - a memory leak is what I feel is the situation also. Sometimes blaming Microsoft is very easy, but probably not warranted. Here is the output from XWin.exe -- winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 32, using depth: 16 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1146 height 838 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy -- Here's my startxwin.bat -- @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=.;h:\cygwin\bin;h:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% REM SET XFCE_DATA=\cygwin\usr\X11R6\var; xfce rem cleanup after last run attrib -s h:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 del h:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 rmdir h:\cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix REM \Cygwin\bin\bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/bin/bash -c 'xwin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4'&""&" start XWin -screen 0 1152x864x32 -engine 4 start /B rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e bash start /B xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash start /B mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash start /B vtwm @echo on -- I compiled vtwm from the distribution provided with Cygwin/XFree86. I find that the same problem occurs with twm also. As I said in my first e-mail, the problems start after I have a remote Emacs (running on an Unix box) displayed locally for around 3-6 hours. Thanks, Sridhar -- Sridhar Boovaraghavan sridhar_ml@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/sridhar_ml/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 16:18:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:18:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D5D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Well first off all if you (I mean any user) are on yahoo, hotmail, excite or any web based mail, please do not cc to me. Your mail will not go through, I block at our server any outgoing and incoming traffic to web based mail services. I am against them, for several reasons, basically they are a good source of 'Reply To;" for junk mailers. Second I tell my users at work why do you need those services if you already got an e-mail account here, for which I get yelled because I won't let them access those free web based mail services URLs too ;-) Anyway..... > I have been watching this thread closely but I haven't piped up until > now because I don't really have a lot to offer. > > First off, I have a friend running Windows ME who is encountering > exactly the same symptoms in every detail. He does not have ANY VPN > software installed on his machine. THIS PROBLEM IS *NOT* restricted to > VPN users, at least there are quite a few more than 1 (I checked the > archives) without a VPN client that have the problem. I posted a > question on behalf of my buddy a month or so ago and received no response. > Since he isn't on the list and I don't have the problem, I haven't had > much to say on this one as I figured that I can't be of much help. I will releasing an updated binary release of XFree86 4.1.0 this weekend. I hope it might have some of these socket issues fixded. Also although in Cygwin.cf BuilXF86MiscExt is defined, but it XFree86-MISC extension is not being built. This will be fixed too, as well some minor things from my TO DO list. > > I do have a few comments though (OK, I got a little long winded below > but I think this thread needs to be brought back to the relevant points) > > Kudos to Robert for politely explaining the same things over and over > due to people not reading what he is saying. > > I will reiterate a couple of points here, and let me point out that if I > was one of the list regulars/developers I would simply say something > like "check the archives this has been answered before", Oh I stopped saying it... because each time I said that, a few users email to the list and or to me and called me "Asshole" (you will those emails in mail archive from 1999, 2000). They expect a full Technical Support Department here, perhaps better then any software vendor provides. If you wish to say it, expect a strong heart and be ready to listen names from a bunch of childish and rediculous people. or maybe I'd > just provide a one-liner url to the archived message. > > -Telnet to localhost:6000 is, while not complete in all respects, at > least a decent indication that the VPN client is not doing something as > basic as blocking all connections to localhost:6000 as some seem to > imply. Can somebody please explain to me why TerreTermSSH X forwarding > (see below), displaying remote X clients on the cygwin > server, and telnet to localhost:6000 all work if the VPN software is > truly blocking ports. Actually, What I suspect, though I am not 100% sure, VPN, and in particular Aventail, does not like Cygwin using UNIXDOMAIN sockets (AF_UNIX). I think that is what going on.... BUT I AM NOT SURE BECAUSE I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO IT SERIOUSLY. I DO PLAN TO SIT DOWN THIS WEEKEND AND BEAT MY HEAD ON THIS ISSUE. > > -Since the problem occurs even if the VPN client is not running, it is > obviously not some case of the VPN client not allowing split-tunneling > or something like that. This has to come down to some interaction with > the TCP stack. Then again, why does adding exceptions to the VPN client > cause things to work even when the client isn't running? I think adding exception to VPN work because, perpahs, Aventail on installation modify TCP/IP stack and owns it.... just like AOL 6.0 browser, Even if you do not use it, it will screw up other browsers once AOL 6.0 is intsalled... well not a good example ;-) CheckPoint SecureRemote modifies NT kernel and also TCP/IP stack, that I know from their documentation, but it does not give any problems. > > -TeraTermSSH (like any SSH client) can forward X windows connections from > remote machines. This requires the SSH client running under 98 to > connect to localhost:6000 to proxy the X windows request that it is > forwarding over the encrypted channel from the remote machine. This has > been repeated ad nauseum on the list. TeraTermSSH is a perfectly good > example of an X Windows client that works. That being said, it > certainly would make sense to try another. What I think Aventail simply won't let you do X forwarding. Is there a rule to turn it on off? I do not know because I do not use it. > > -X servers typically (and yes I just checked mine) listen on ALL local > IP addresses (ie *.6000). Clients will connect from some random source > port to port 6000 on $DISPLAY. That is why I posted in the morning on a Linux box do a netsat -a and you (I man other poster) will see what is going on. > > I too would have tended to blame the VPN client on this one except for the > fact that other X clients do work. Trying another X client and another > X server would certainly provide more info. I did not hear more about other xclients. I asked if he could try clients from win32-x11 project. Those clients use only Winsock32, like Hummingbird Exceed therefore it might give me some clues where to look for problems and try to find a solution, if I can. Suhaib > > A couple of things that I haven't seen suggested which may be worth > trying arei: > > -Running something similar to ktrace or truss (does sysinternals > have something similar?) against both client and server. > > -Getting debug versions of client and server and running the client > under GDB and/or attaching to the server and following the logic where > the connection is failing. > > -As has been suggested by othersi, trying other clients to cygwin server > and cygwin clients to other server would be very valuable. > > > -Steve > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 15 17:21:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:21:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 31 Message-ID: I haven't seen any direct requests for new features, so this release represents what I believe to be the "most wanted" features. You can very easily influence what features make the "most wanted" list be presenting me with feature requests. I don't read all the mail on the mailing list, so let me suggest that you mark any such requests with "[FEATURE-REQUEST]" or "[BUGFIX-REQUEST]" at the beginning of the subject line; better yet, cc me when you have such a request. On with the release announcement... I just posted Test 31 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test31.exe.bz2 (1016 KB) Changes: 1) A set of recent releases changed the '-screen n WIDTHxHEIGHTxDEPTH' parameter to '-screen n width height' and added the '-depth color_bit_depth' parameter. The '-depth color_bit_depth' parameter is only used in fullscreen mode when using a DirectDraw engine. Some of that information was missing from pervious change log entries. 2) Tell X Server to quit when Alt-F4 key combination is pressed. 3) Don't call IDirectDraw_SetDisplayMode if the desired mode is the same as the current mode. This makes fullscreen server startup and switching back and forth between the server and Windows much faster. This also causes the current refresh rate to be used by default in fullscreen mode, rather than the minimal refresh rate that is chosen by DirectDraw when you change the display mode but do not specify a refresh rate. Translation: yay! 4) Added '-refresh rate_in_Hz' command line parameter to specify a refresh rate. Specifying an invalid refresh rate will cause the X Server to abort on startup. 5) Disable LowBandwidthX (LBX). I will reenable LBX if anyone notifies me that they have been using LBX with Cygwin/XFree86. 6) Switch from DirectDraw to DirectDraw2 to support changing the refresh rate. The minimum DirectDraw version required to date has been DirectDraw3, which is not affected by this release; therefore, I don't foresee anyone being forced to upgrade to a new version of DirectDraw. Enjoy, Harold From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Fri Jun 15 18:07:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:07:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D53@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <20010615155639.A4367@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <013b01c0f600$d364ded0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Mathezer" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Info on "Can't open display" > > I have been watching this thread closely but I haven't piped up until > now because I don't really have a lot to offer. > > First off, I have a friend running Windows ME who is encountering > exactly the same symptoms in every detail. He does not have ANY VPN > software installed on his machine. THIS PROBLEM IS *NOT* restricted to > VPN users, at least there are quite a few more than 1 (I checked the > archives) without a VPN client that have the problem. I posted a > question on behalf of my buddy a month or so ago and received no response. > Since he isn't on the list and I don't have the problem, I haven't had > much to say on this one as I figured that I can't be of much help. Oops! That email must have slipped through. What I think Suhaib and Harold need, is either a) a test box with the problem (Saying "install ME" doesn't help - not all ME users have the fault. Like Aventail Connect - we don't know that all Aventail Connect users experience the fault... I suspect that if someone contributed a licence for Aventail Connect to Suhaib or Harold they'd be willing to try installing it and seeing if the fault arises. b) Some volunteer willing to go through some detailed tests to pinpoint the differences occuring between working local-local connections and non-working local-local connections. > I do have a few comments though (OK, I got a little long winded below > but I think this thread needs to be brought back to the relevant points) > > Kudos to Robert for politely explaining the same things over and over > due to people not reading what he is saying. :] > -Telnet to localhost:6000 is, while not complete in all respects, at > least a decent indication that the VPN client is not doing something as > basic as blocking all connections to localhost:6000 as some seem to > imply. Can somebody please explain to me why TerreTermSSH X forwarding > (see below), displaying remote X clients on the cygwin > server, and telnet to localhost:6000 all work if the VPN software is > truly blocking ports. Suhaib made a _very_ good point. X (may be)/(is) using AF_UNIX sockets for local connections. Cygwin1.dll emulates such sockets using normal win32 sockets and a file on disk. If thats the case any win32 only program is not a valid example of a working tool. What would be a valid comparison is a test client-server package that use AF_UNIX sockets - say CORBA based or something similar. > -Since the problem occurs even if the VPN client is not running, it is > obviously not some case of the VPN client not allowing split-tunneling > or something like that. This has to come down to some interaction with > the TCP stack. Then again, why does adding exceptions to the VPN client > cause things to work even when the client isn't running? Maybe "Not running" means "not establishing IPSEC connections" as opposed to "all alterations removed". > -TeraTermSSH (like any SSH client) can forward X windows connections from > remote machines. This requires the SSH client running under 98 to > connect to localhost:6000 to proxy the X windows request that it is > forwarding over the encrypted channel from the remote machine. This has > been repeated ad nauseum on the list. TeraTermSSH is a perfectly good > example of an X Windows client that works. That being said, it > certainly would make sense to try another. I still disagree on that: TeraTermSSH is not using AF_UNIX sockets when it does that. > -X servers typically (and yes I just checked mine) listen on ALL local > IP addresses (ie *.6000). Clients will connect from some random source > port to port 6000 on $DISPLAY. > > I too would have tended to blame the VPN client on this one except for the > fact that other X clients do work. Trying another X client and another > X server would certainly provide more info. Thanks. > A couple of things that I haven't seen suggested which may be worth > trying arei: > > -Running something similar to ktrace or truss (does sysinternals > have something similar?) against both client and server. I provided a link to TDIMon from sysinternals in my last email :]. It provides a TDI level trace of all system activity, and you can filter down to application/.exe. > -Getting debug versions of client and server and running the client > under GDB and/or attaching to the server and following the logic where > the connection is failing. My suspicion is that a debug 'kernel' - cygwin1.dll - is all that will be needed. Certainly that _will_ be needed to see where the connection is failing, because the actual win32 call occurs from cygwin, not the xclient or server. > -As has been suggested by othersi, trying other clients to cygwin server > and cygwin clients to other server would be very valuable. > > > -Steve Thanks for your input Steve - much appreciated. Rob From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Fri Jun 15 18:14:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:14:00 -0000 Subject: [Feature-requests] was Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 31 References: Message-ID: <016f01c0f601$c92095d0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" > I haven't seen any direct requests for new features, so this release > represents what I believe to be the "most wanted" features. You can very > easily influence what features make the "most wanted" list be presenting me > with feature requests. I don't read all the mail on the mailing list, so > let me suggest that you mark any such requests with "[FEATURE-REQUEST]" or > "[BUGFIX-REQUEST]" at the beginning of the subject line; better yet, cc me > when you have such a request. On with the release announcement... > Ohh ohh ohh - I have requests yes I doo....! 1) /dev/clipboard integration - can be done through either win32 clipboard calls or just open /dev/clipboard. If you want to post BINARY data to the clipboard, the best way (IMO) is to use /dev/clipboard, so we centralise that code (it handles binary now). 2) this is something I thought of the other day - I don't know how feasible it is.... when the Xserver starts up, make the screen size the entire windows screen size, and the background transparent. Then for each X window created, create a win32 window with a client area the size of the X window client area, and render into that. Finally translate win32 messages into X window manager 'things' (technical term there :] ). A later addition to that could be to decorate the win32 windows with the X window manager stuff when a X window manager attaches. Rob From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 18:29:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:29:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D60@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Suhaib made a _very_ good point. X (may be)/(is) using AF_UNIX sockets Actually under Cygwin it is using AF_UNIX. For Win32-X11 project I used Only Microsoft Winsock32, which most of the commercial X-servers do. Therefore I asked the Aventail users if they can test some clients, e.g. Xclock, and oclock etc from win32-x11 project. I am working on a binary release which will use winsock32. Let's see if that will help. Suhaib > for local connections. Cygwin1.dll emulates such sockets using normal > win32 sockets and a file on disk. If thats the case any win32 only > program is not a valid example of a working tool. What would be a valid > comparison is a test client-server package that use AF_UNIX sockets - > say CORBA based or something similar. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Fri Jun 15 18:30:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:30:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D60@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <01a901c0f604$0ce525e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Robert Collins'" ; Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > > > > Suhaib made a _very_ good point. X (may be)/(is) using AF_UNIX sockets > > Actually under Cygwin it is using AF_UNIX. For Win32-X11 project I used > Only Microsoft Winsock32, which most of the commercial X-servers do. > Therefore I asked the Aventail users if they can test some clients, e.g. > Xclock, and oclock etc from win32-x11 project. I am working on a binary > release which will use winsock32. Let's see if that will help. > > Suhaib You will lose fork() support for sockets if you use winsock32 directly. I'm much more keen on identifying why the problem occurs - we can probably solve it quickly inside cygwin1.dll once we know that. Rob > > > for local connections. Cygwin1.dll emulates such sockets using normal > > win32 sockets and a file on disk. If thats the case any win32 only > > program is not a valid example of a working tool. What would be a valid > > comparison is a test client-server package that use AF_UNIX sockets - > > say CORBA based or something similar. > > From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Fri Jun 15 18:32:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:32:00 -0000 Subject: [FEATURE REQUEST] References: Message-ID: <200106160132.f5G1WQC11498@pilot19.cl.msu.edu> > > 5) Disable LowBandwidthX (LBX). I will reenable LBX if anyone > notifies me that they have been using LBX with Cygwin/XFree86. > Might a command line interface be added instead to disable LBX? Like -nolbx? Can it be done that easily? LBX is a very nice resource, and I actually use it and rely on it. If I am the only one, I can simply use the 4.1.0 build that I have been attempting (assuming I get it to work, but it is looking promising... I am doing it right now), but it wont have all of the changes you have made... that is, unless you have patch files? And I can remove the disable? Thanks, Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 18:34:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:34:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D61@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > You will lose fork() support for sockets if you use winsock32 directly. I know. What I want to see if this display problem goes away with it. I know it is not the best way. > I'm much more keen on identifying why the problem occurs - we can > probably solve it quickly inside cygwin1.dll once we know that. Can anyone build a debug version of Cygwin1.dll with the Egor Duda patch he posted this morning? I do not have time to fool around with Cygwin code. Suhaib Hi! Friday, 15 June, 2001 Ralf Habacker Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com wrote: >> > The only change we had in the accept() code between 1.1.8 and 1.3.2 >> > was Egor's patch to support secure connections on AF_UNIX sockets. >> > Is it possible that the security check fails under some >> > circumstances here? you can apply this to cygwin sources, rebuild cygwin1.dll and see if it helps. this disables security checks i've added to AF_UNIX socket code. if it helps, then there may be some problem with my code. Index: net.cc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cygwin/net.cc,v retrieving revision 1.57 diff -u -p -1 -r1.57 net.cc --- net.cc 2001/06/03 22:18:19 1.57 +++ net.cc 2001/06/15 09:27:01 @@ -765,2 +765,3 @@ cygwin_connect (int fd, } +#if 0 if (sock->get_addr_family () == AF_UNIX) @@ -793,2 +794,3 @@ cygwin_connect (int fd, } +#endif } @@ -902,3 +904,3 @@ cygwin_accept (int fd, struct sockaddr * res = accept (sock->get_socket (), peer, len); // can't use a blocking call inside a lock - +#if 0 if (sock->get_addr_family () == AF_UNIX) @@ -934,3 +936,3 @@ cygwin_accept (int fd, struct sockaddr * } - +#endif SetResourceLock (LOCK_FD_LIST, WRITE_LOCK|READ_LOCK, "accept"); RH> I will try, but the difficulty is that on stracing the error does RH> not occure. I will analyze it in more detail ... RH> an example [...] RH> Done anyone have an idea ? unfortunately, i don't have kde installed so i can't get any meaningful explanation of all those debug outputs. i suspect, however, that this accept()-involved code could be somehow reduced to small testcase. you have already sent some bits to cygwin mailing list, and, if i understand them correctly, it has some weird sequences of calls such as 'conenect() to socket and then accept() on it without closing it beforehand'. is that so? if you'll be able to extract socket-related code that fails into reasonably small and self-contained program, i'll be able to debug it. Egor. mailto:deo@logos-m.ru ICQ 5165414 FidoNet 2:5020/496.19 > > Rob > > > > > > for local connections. Cygwin1.dll emulates such sockets using > normal > > > win32 sockets and a file on disk. If thats the case any win32 only > > > program is not a valid example of a working tool. What would be a > valid > > > comparison is a test client-server package that use AF_UNIX > sockets - > > > say CORBA based or something similar. > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 15 18:37:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:37:00 -0000 Subject: [FEATURE REQUEST] LBX Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D62@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You can simply turn LBX on and of from Cygwin.cf file by changing BuildLBX to YES or NO. Anyway Disabeling LBX is not a good idea. I will continue to provide the binaries on Cygwin/Xfree86 server with LBX. Many users who use X behind a proxy need it. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:32 PM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Cc: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: [FEATURE REQUEST] > > > > > > 5) Disable LowBandwidthX (LBX). I will reenable LBX if anyone > > notifies me that they have been using LBX with Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > Might a command line interface be added instead to disable LBX? Like - > nolbx? > Can it be done that easily? LBX is a very nice resource, and I actually > use > it and rely on it. If I am the only one, I can simply use the 4.1.0 build > that > I have been attempting (assuming I get it to work, but it is looking > promising... I am doing it right now), but it wont have all of the changes > you > have made... that is, unless you have patch files? And I can remove the > disable? > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 15 18:39:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:39:00 -0000 Subject: [Feature-requests] was Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 31 References: <016f01c0f601$c92095d0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: Robert, > 1) /dev/clipboard integration - can be done through either win32 > clipboard calls or just open /dev/clipboard. If you want to post BINARY > data to the clipboard, the best way (IMO) is to use /dev/clipboard, so > we centralise that code (it handles binary now). Ah... see, now that is something I can go on. I want clipboard support very much, but I keep forgetting to look into it. I'm going to work on it right now and see what I can come up with. > 2) this is something I thought of the other day - I don't know how > feasible it is.... > > when the Xserver starts up, make the screen size the entire windows > screen size, and the background transparent. > Then for each X window created, create a win32 window with a client area > the size of the X window client area, and render into that. > Finally translate win32 messages into X window manager 'things' > (technical term there :] ). Hrm... The X on X (Mac OS X) folks have developed a rootless X server, however, it requires that a pointer to the primary display framebuffer memory; the server renders directly into the primary framebuffer, just like the old Cygwin/XFree86 that only worked on NT/2000. I'm not sure how practical it would be to try creating a rootless X server, since Windows 95/98/Me are such a huge part of our user base. On a related note, have you compared the performance of the primary framebuffer server with the shadow framebuffer servers? Yikes! The primary framebuffer server is terribly slow. (Just think about doing a stipple fill, were you modify existing pixel values: synchronize with video card over PCI/AGP bus, grab a couple pixels from the framebuffer, modify the pixels at the CPU, synchronize with the video card again, send the pixels back, etc., compared to: perform graphics operation in system memory, transfer the whole updated region to the video card at once). I need to read up on window managers before I can figure out some sort of workable solution for this one. Anybody with more experience is welcome to take over this one :) Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 15 19:01:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:01:00 -0000 Subject: [FEATURE REQUEST] References: <200106160132.f5G1WQC11498@pilot19.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: Brian, > LBX is a very nice resource, and I > actually use > it and rely on it. Ah... I had read somewhere that it was nasty and deprecated. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't. In any case, I've reenabled it and reposted Test31 with LBX enabled. The new bz2 is 1040 KB. Harold From cgf@redhat.com Fri Jun 15 19:09:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:09:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D61@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010615220941.A718@redhat.com> On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:34:22PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > >> You will lose fork() support for sockets if you use winsock32 directly. > > >I know. What I want to see if this display problem goes away with it. >I know it is not the best way. > >> I'm much more keen on identifying why the problem occurs - we can >> probably solve it quickly inside cygwin1.dll once we know that. > >Can anyone build a debug version of Cygwin1.dll with the Egor Duda patch he >posted this morning? I do not have time to fool around with Cygwin code. I'm sure everyone knows this, but Egor's patch was just a temporary commenting out of some AF_UNIX security code. It wasn't a real "fix". So, don't get too excited if things start working for you after applying the patch. cgf From mroper@westcoastdhb.org.nz Sat Jun 16 04:15:00 2001 From: mroper@westcoastdhb.org.nz (Miles Roper) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:15:00 -0000 Subject: Can you hide the Xwin program? Message-ID: I want to be able to hide the Xwin program, so it doesn't appear on screen. I actually want to be able to run KDE apps from a Linux Server on my Win 95 machine using cygwin. But I want the apps to appear like Icons on the windows 95 desktop. So you double click on one and it starts Kword, so I don't want to see the Xwin program. Is there anyway to hide this? Cheers Miles From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 05:04:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:04:00 -0000 Subject: Can you hide the Xwin program? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D63@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> What do you mean by hide XWin program and run KDE? XWin is an X-server Without it you cannot run KDE. If you do not want to see XWin then do not run it, Buttttttttttt your KDE won't run either ;-) KDE depends upon X. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Miles Roper [ mailto:mroper@westcoastdhb.org.nz ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:17 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Can you hide the Xwin program? > > I want to be able to hide the Xwin program, so it doesn't appear on > screen. > I actually want to be able to run KDE apps from a Linux Server on my Win > 95 > machine using cygwin. But I want the apps to appear like Icons on the > windows 95 desktop. So you double click on one and it starts Kword, so I > don't want to see the Xwin program. Is there anyway to hide this? > Cheers > Miles From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 05:06:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:06:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D64@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:10 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Info on "Can't open display" > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:34:22PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > >> You will lose fork() support for sockets if you use winsock32 directly. > > > > > >I know. What I want to see if this display problem goes away with it. > >I know it is not the best way. > > > >> I'm much more keen on identifying why the problem occurs - we can > >> probably solve it quickly inside cygwin1.dll once we know that. > > > >Can anyone build a debug version of Cygwin1.dll with the Egor Duda patch > he > >posted this morning? I do not have time to fool around with Cygwin code. > > I'm sure everyone knows this, but Egor's patch was just a temporary > commenting out of some AF_UNIX security code. It wasn't a real "fix". > So, don't get too excited if things start working for you after applying > the patch. I know it was a temporary fix. I man for checking if his Security check For AF_UNIX is creating problem. This is also for testing purposes. Suhaib > > cgf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 05:09:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: [FEATURE REQUEST] Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D65@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:01 PM > To: Brian Michael Genisio > Cc: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: RE: [FEATURE REQUEST] > > Brian, > > > LBX is a very nice resource, and I > > actually use > > it and rely on it. > > Ah... I had read somewhere that it was nasty and deprecated. Perhaps it > is, > perhaps it isn't. True it is nasty and deprecated. But a lot of users in UNIX world still use it. I do not think it does any harm to leave it in all future releases. >In any case, I've reenabled it and reposted Test31 with > LBX enabled. The new bz2 is 1040 KB. > > Harold From mroper@westcoastdhb.org.nz Sat Jun 16 05:27:00 2001 From: mroper@westcoastdhb.org.nz (Miles Roper) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:27:00 -0000 Subject: Can you hide the Xwin program? Message-ID: I suppose what I want is to do what XManager does (shareware). It operates in a Multiple Window Mode, and allows you to use MS Windows as the Background. So the actual X server is hidden from view, its still there, but as a minimized application. The reason that I want to do it this way, is so we could gradually replace M$ apps, i.e. replace M$ Word with Kword etc... This would make the changes fairly transparent to the user. Well, I got to go to sleep :o) Cheers Miles From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 05:30:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:30:00 -0000 Subject: Can you hide the Xwin program? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D66@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Miles Roper [ mailto:mroper@westcoastdhb.org.nz ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:29 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: Can you hide the Xwin program? > > I suppose what I want is to do what XManager does (shareware). It > operates > in a Multiple Window Mode, and allows you to use MS Windows as the > Background. So the actual X server is hidden from view, its still there, > but as a minimized application. Not possible in the current versions of X-server. You are welcome to contribute. Suhaib >The reason that I want to do it this way, > is so we could gradually replace M$ apps, i.e. replace M$ Word with Kword > etc... This would make the changes fairly transparent to the user. > > Well, I got to go to sleep :o) > > Cheers > > Miles From jasonday@mediaone.net Sat Jun 16 06:13:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:13:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D53@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <20010615155639.A4367@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010616090325.A9139@spiderman.cherlon.com> On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 03:56:39PM -0600, Stephen Mathezer wrote: [big snip] > -As has been suggested by othersi, trying other clients to cygwin server > and cygwin clients to other server would be very valuable. The same problem occurs with XManager ( http://www.xmanager.org - free demo). The server starts, local client show the "Can't connect to 127.0.0.1:0.0" error, remote clients work fine. Jason > > > -Steve > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 06:40:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:40:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D67@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Day [ mailto:jasonday@mediaone.net ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:03 AM > To: Stephen Mathezer > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; robert.collins@itdomain.com.au; > ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com; landrieu@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: Info on "Can't open display" > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 03:56:39PM -0600, Stephen Mathezer wrote: > [big snip] > > -As has been suggested by othersi, trying other clients to cygwin server > > and cygwin clients to other server would be very valuable. > > The same problem occurs with XManager ( http://www.xmanager.org - free > demo). > The server starts, local client show the "Can't connect to 127.0.0.1:0.0" > error, remote clients work fine. Well, I donnot know what to say now. As I suspect, I suspect Aventail is screwing X protocols. If I could have acess to Aventail I might look more into this, but without it I cannot. Have you reported to Aventail Tech support? You should. Suhaib > > Jason > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Jason Day jasonday at > http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net > > "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." > -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 06:43:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:43:00 -0000 Subject: Xwin won't build Xfree86-MISC extension Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D68@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I am not sure what is going on.... Although buildXF86MiscExt is defined in Cygwin.cf But Xwin is built without Xfree96-MISC extension. Imakefiles and makefiles are OK. Alan, do you have any suggestions? Suhaib From fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch Sat Jun 16 06:58:00 2001 From: fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch (Pellegrino Fabio) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:58:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 Message-ID: <000101c0f66c$88efed60$d789023e@cablecom.ch> Hi, I know I'm a newbie but I hope not a lost case. I posted my question yesterday but got no answer, perhaps I'm really a lost case :) So, I post it again in the hope, that someone can help me: I downloaded the cygwin and the Xfree in Windows 98 SE as it is explained three days ago, and I have installed it. After the installation I started the startxwin.bat from a MS-Dos Prompt, and it's telling me for first, that it is running out of resources. Then several MS-Dos Prompts open and the Zone Alarm Firewall ask the permissions for RXVT.exe and then for Xwin.exe, Xterm and for last twm. But no difference what I make (If I give the permission or not) all the MS-Dos prompts closes and it remains the startxwin Window who is terminated. But for one time, the X Server showed up and closed after a few seconds. Naturally, I looked for a answer in the mailing lists, and I tried several things, but nothing helped. Then, as mentioned in the installation note, I tried to run X Server from the cygwin bash shell, but it doesnt work. In a lucky case the X Server started, but in a very low resolution and the window was really small. Usually, every time I start the X Server from the bash shell, I get this anwer: _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Window Client width 640 height 480 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 000f800 000007 e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server " :0.0" After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Waiting for X server to shut down. Here is my startxwin.bat file: @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine -4 start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e bash start rxvt -fn "Lucidia Console-12" start twm I checked also my resolution in the Windows System, and it set at 16 and my graphic card is a Chips 65555. The only time, that the X Server showed up, it seems like to be in RGB mode...Have I to install the driver again in MS-Dos Mode? I don't know, if I must have an initial file like .emacs or .bashrc. I think not, on the how-to page it is not mentioned, or I haven't seen it. Could someone give me a good advise in this really basic configuration, I think? Thank You in advance Fabio From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 07:08:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:08:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86-CVS code for Cygwin/Xfree86 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D69@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> The command line options in the latest CVS code are all messed up. Using for -screen 0 600x800x16 gives -screen no such options. Suhaib 10:03am Administrator src 287 #xwin -screen 0 600x800x16 Unrecognized option: -screen use: X [:] [option] From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 07:26:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:26:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Window Client width 640 height 480 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 000f800 000007 e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed Well we are seeing now more and more _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed, which indicates there are some problems with AF_UNIX in Cygwin 1.3.2 At least with Xfree86. As for helping this user.... can you wait till tomorrow evening? I am working on updated binary release for Xf86 4.1.0 which might have this issue fixed. Suhaib > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server " :0.0" > After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > Waiting for X server to shut down. > > Here is my startxwin.bat file: > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin > start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine -4 > start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e bash > start rxvt -fn "Lucidia Console-12" > start twm > > I checked also my resolution in the Windows System, and it set at 16 and > my > graphic card is a Chips 65555. The only time, that the X Server showed up, > it seems like to be in RGB mode...Have I to install the driver again in > MS-Dos Mode? > I don't know, if I must have an initial file like .emacs or .bashrc. I > think > not, on the how-to page it is not mentioned, or I haven't seen it. > > Could someone give me a good advise in this really basic configuration, I > think? > > Thank You in advance > > Fabio From fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch Sat Jun 16 07:38:00 2001 From: fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch (Pellegrino Fabio) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:38:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 Message-ID: <000201c0f672$0f8430c0$d789023e@cablecom.ch> Sure, I can wait, no problem. Thank you for your help. Fabio > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Window Client width 640 height 480 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 000f800 000007 e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed Well we are seeing now more and more _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed, which indicates there are some problems with AF_UNIX in Cygwin 1.3.2 At least with Xfree86. As for helping this user.... can you wait till tomorrow evening? I am working on updated binary release for Xf86 4.1.0 which might have this issue fixed. Suhaib > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server " :0.0" > After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > Waiting for X server to shut down. > > Here is my startxwin.bat file: > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin > start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine -4 > start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e bash > start rxvt -fn "Lucidia Console-12" > start twm > > I checked also my resolution in the Windows System, and it set at 16 and > my > graphic card is a Chips 65555. The only time, that the X Server showed up, > it seems like to be in RGB mode...Have I to install the driver again in > MS-Dos Mode? > I don't know, if I must have an initial file like .emacs or .bashrc. I > think > not, on the how-to page it is not mentioned, or I haven't seen it. > > Could someone give me a good advise in this really basic configuration, I > think? > > Thank You in advance > > Fabio From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Jun 16 09:13:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:13:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D64@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <004601c0f67f$5def3090$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> I just did a bit of reading about aventail - it is the successor to AutoSOCKS. As such it will be hooking into TCP at a very low level. Can someone experiencing the problem with Aventail try the following: start the X server, but no clients. start bash $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 then from the same bash session run vtwm or some window manager. I'm guessing that that will work with Aventail. === reasoning === Looking at the AF_UNIX code in cygwin, all the source connections for AF_UNIX sockets are emulated by a normal socket connection made with the following settings... sockaddr_in sin; sin.sin_family = AF_INET; sscanf (buf + strlen (SOCKET_COOKIE), "%hu %08x-%08x-%08x-%08x", &sin.sin_port, secret_ptr, secret_ptr + 1, secret_ptr + 2, secret_ptr + 3); sin.sin_port = htons (sin.sin_port); sin.sin_addr.s_addr = htonl (INADDR_LOOPBACK); *out = sin; *outlen = sizeof sin; ret = 1; IE a fixed port (dependent on the contents of the socket file, and a fixed source address (127.0.0.1)... If the above test works then we'll have a workaround for Aventail users. And hopefully someone with Aventail support can log a bug report with them. If this is the problem, it isn't something that is appropriate to change in Cygwin. (AF_UNIX sockets are only allowed to operate on the local machine, and using 127.0.0.1 as the source port guarantees that that is the case). Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:10 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: Info on "Can't open display" > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:34:22PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > >> You will lose fork() support for sockets if you use winsock32 directly. > > > > > > > > >I know. What I want to see if this display problem goes away with it. > > >I know it is not the best way. > > > > > >> I'm much more keen on identifying why the problem occurs - we can > > >> probably solve it quickly inside cygwin1.dll once we know that. > > > > > >Can anyone build a debug version of Cygwin1.dll with the Egor Duda patch > > he > > >posted this morning? I do not have time to fool around with Cygwin code. > > > > I'm sure everyone knows this, but Egor's patch was just a temporary > > commenting out of some AF_UNIX security code. It wasn't a real "fix". > > So, don't get too excited if things start working for you after applying > > the patch. > > > I know it was a temporary fix. I man for checking if his Security check > For AF_UNIX is creating problem. This is also for testing purposes. > > Suhaib > > > > > cgf > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 10:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:02:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > I just did a bit of reading about aventail - it is the successor to > AutoSOCKS. As such it will be hooking into TCP at a very low level. Oh the crap.... This is like UnixLink from NetManage Sock I was using years ago... That was screwing up a lots of TCP/IP applications because it bascially replaced the Microsoft TCP/IP with their and installed their own Socket. Anyway, here is what is going on with Aventail.... which they calim to be great Engineering invotaions by them... FROM my experience it is a total a bad engineering invention. From their White pages and Documents ( http://web.oxi.net/wingate/autosocksdata.htm ) Aventail replaced TCP/IP with their own and install a SOCK, which forces all the application to communicate through Aventail Socket, Aventail is active or not. So Rob... do you really think you can fix it in Cygwin? I guess it will be a tough job. They are not even using Microsoft WinSock, instead they are forcing everyone to use their SOCKETS regardless of you run Aventail or not, once you install it, you are hooked to their SWOCKET. In my opinion it is a CRAP. Suhaib >From their FACT SHEETS... HOW AUTOSOCKS WORKS AutoSOCKS transparently makes Windows-based TCP/IP applications SOCKS compliant. By implementing AutoSOCKS with a corporation's existing TCP/IP applications, clients can communicate through the SOCKS-enabled servers. AutoSOCKS works by intercepting WinSock communication requests issued by applications and then processes the requests based on a set of rules. These rules govern whether or not a WinSock request is redirected through a SOCKS server. While communications within the local network may proceed unchanged, all communication with external networks can be redirected through one or many SOCKS servers, providing a single controlled access server for traffic out to the Internet from your corporate desktops and access in from the Internet for your mobile users. > > Can someone experiencing the problem with Aventail try the following: > > start the X server, but no clients. > start bash > $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 > then from the same bash session run vtwm or some window manager. > > I'm guessing that that will work with Aventail. > > === reasoning === > Looking at the AF_UNIX code in cygwin, all the source connections for > AF_UNIX sockets are emulated by a normal socket connection made with the > following settings... > > sockaddr_in sin; > sin.sin_family = AF_INET; > sscanf (buf + strlen (SOCKET_COOKIE), "%hu %08x-%08x-%08x-%08x", > &sin.sin_port, > secret_ptr, secret_ptr + 1, secret_ptr + 2, secret_ptr + 3); > sin.sin_port = htons (sin.sin_port); > sin.sin_addr.s_addr = htonl (INADDR_LOOPBACK); > *out = sin; > *outlen = sizeof sin; > ret = 1; > > IE a fixed port (dependent on the contents of the socket file, and a > fixed source address (127.0.0.1)... > > If the above test works then we'll have a workaround for Aventail users. > And hopefully someone with Aventail support can log a bug report with > them. > > If this is the problem, it isn't something that is appropriate to change > in Cygwin. (AF_UNIX sockets are only allowed to operate on the local > machine, and using 127.0.0.1 as the source port guarantees that that is > the case). > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:06 PM > Subject: RE: Info on "Can't open display" > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:10 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Re: Info on "Can't open display" > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:34:22PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > >> You will lose fork() support for sockets if you use winsock32 > directly. > > > > > > > > > > > >I know. What I want to see if this display problem goes away with > it. > > > >I know it is not the best way. > > > > > > > >> I'm much more keen on identifying why the problem occurs - we can > > > >> probably solve it quickly inside cygwin1.dll once we know that. > > > > > > > >Can anyone build a debug version of Cygwin1.dll with the Egor Duda > patch > > > he > > > >posted this morning? I do not have time to fool around with Cygwin > code. > > > > > > I'm sure everyone knows this, but Egor's patch was just a temporary > > > commenting out of some AF_UNIX security code. It wasn't a real > "fix". > > > So, don't get too excited if things start working for you after > applying > > > the patch. > > > > > > I know it was a temporary fix. I man for checking if his Security > check > > For AF_UNIX is creating problem. This is also for testing purposes. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > cgf > > From flognat@flognat.myip.org Sat Jun 16 11:22:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:22:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 References: <000101c0f66c$88efed60$d789023e@cablecom.ch> Message-ID: Out of environment, the environment variables fills out the space for them, add SHELL=X:\PATH\COMMAND.COM /P /E:NNNN Make sure x:\path\command.com points to command.com, probably something like c:\windows\command.com, start with 2048 as NNNN For starters, turn off zone alarm, maybe uninstall it, to make it easy to get started sort of.. /Andy / "Pellegrino Fabio" wrote: | Hi, | | I know I'm a newbie but I hope not a lost case. I posted my question | yesterday but got no answer, perhaps I'm really a lost case :) So, I post it | again in the hope, that someone can help me: | I downloaded the cygwin and the Xfree in Windows 98 SE as it is explained | three days ago, and I have installed it. After the installation I started | the startxwin.bat from a MS-Dos Prompt, and it's telling me for first, that | it is running out of resources. Then several MS-Dos Prompts open and the | Zone Alarm Firewall ask the permissions for RXVT.exe and then for Xwin.exe, | Xterm and for last twm. But no difference what I make (If I give the | permission or not) all the MS-Dos prompts closes and it remains the | startxwin Window who is terminated. But for one time, the X Server showed up | and closed after a few seconds. Naturally, I looked for a answer in the | mailing lists, and I tried several things, but nothing helped. | Then, as mentioned in the installation note, I tried to run X Server from | the cygwin bash shell, but it doesnt work. In a lucky case the X Server | started, but in a very low resolution and the window was really small. | Usually, every time I start the X Server from the bash shell, I get this | anwer: | | _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root | winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me | winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed | winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed | winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 | winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking | winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Window Client width 640 height 480 | winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 000f800 000007 e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 | winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning | _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server " :0.0" | After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. | | Waiting for X server to shut down. | | Here is my startxwin.bat file: | @echo off | SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 | SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin | start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine -4 | start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e bash | start rxvt -fn "Lucidia Console-12" | start twm | | I checked also my resolution in the Windows System, and it set at 16 and my | graphic card is a Chips 65555. The only time, that the X Server showed up, | it seems like to be in RGB mode...Have I to install the driver again in | MS-Dos Mode? | I don't know, if I must have an initial file like .emacs or .bashrc. I think | not, on the how-to page it is not mentioned, or I haven't seen it. | | Could someone give me a good advise in this really basic configuration, I | think? | | Thank You in advance | | Fabio From flognat@flognat.myip.org Sat Jun 16 11:25:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:25:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Can't you just tell aventail to skip socking the X11 stuff, and just let it through as normal, everybody's TCP/IP? /Andy From fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch Sat Jun 16 12:07:00 2001 From: fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch (Pellegrino Fabio) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:07:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 Message-ID: <000501c0f696$a74f6720$d789023e@cablecom.ch> Andy, thanks you very much for your answer, but now, when I start the startxwin.bat, I get twice the Message of running out of resources :( Well, I think it's better to go the way of the bash shell, that is more stable, but as I said, really small and I see only the window of Xterm white in a low resolution... Out of environment, the environment variables fills out the space for them, add SHELL=X:\PATH\COMMAND.COM /P /E:NNNN Make sure x:\path\command.com points to command.com, probably something like c:\windows\command.com, start with 2048 as NNNN For starters, turn off zone alarm, maybe uninstall it, to make it easy to get started sort of.. /Andy / "Pellegrino Fabio" wrote: | Hi, | | I know I'm a newbie but I hope not a lost case. I posted my question | yesterday but got no answer, perhaps I'm really a lost case :) So, I post it | again in the hope, that someone can help me: | I downloaded the cygwin and the Xfree in Windows 98 SE as it is explained | three days ago, and I have installed it. After the installation I started | the startxwin.bat from a MS-Dos Prompt, and it's telling me for first, that | it is running out of resources. Then several MS-Dos Prompts open and the | Zone Alarm Firewall ask the permissions for RXVT.exe and then for Xwin.exe, | Xterm and for last twm. But no difference what I make (If I give the | permission or not) all the MS-Dos prompts closes and it remains the | startxwin Window who is terminated. But for one time, the X Server showed up | and closed after a few seconds. Naturally, I looked for a answer in the | mailing lists, and I tried several things, but nothing helped. | Then, as mentioned in the installation note, I tried to run X Server from | the cygwin bash shell, but it doesnt work. In a lucky case the X Server | started, but in a very low resolution and the window was really small. | Usually, every time I start the X Server from the bash shell, I get this | anwer: | | _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root | winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me | winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed | winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed | winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 | winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking | winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Window Client width 640 height 480 | winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 000f800 000007 e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 | winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning | _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server " :0.0" | After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. | | Waiting for X server to shut down. | | Here is my startxwin.bat file: | @echo off | SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 | SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin | start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine -4 | start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e bash | start rxvt -fn "Lucidia Console-12" | start twm | | I checked also my resolution in the Windows System, and it set at 16 and my | graphic card is a Chips 65555. The only time, that the X Server showed up, | it seems like to be in RGB mode...Have I to install the driver again in | MS-Dos Mode? | I don't know, if I must have an initial file like .emacs or .bashrc. I think | not, on the how-to page it is not mentioned, or I haven't seen it. | | Could someone give me a good advise in this really basic configuration, I | think? | | Thank You in advance | | Fabio From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 12:37:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:37:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Markebo [ mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:25 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'Robert Collins'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" > > Can't you just tell aventail to skip socking the X11 stuff, and just > let it through as normal, everybody's TCP/IP? > > /Andy Can you try, please? ;-) They wrote in their White papers the Greatest Engineering Invention.... so do you think they will listen to anyone? ;-) If they supposed to, they would not have thought to mess around with SOCKETS and force everyone to use their Greatest inventions. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 12:42:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:42:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You nee to put this in your Config.sys and reboot. shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p I suggest get ride of Zone Alaram, and replace it with Tinyfirewall ( http://www.tinysoftware.com ). Tinyfirewall is better, at least does not mess around With display. When promptem for "trying to conect xxx" check the box for permanent.. and hit Permit button. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Pellegrino Fabio [ mailto:fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:01 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cannot start Xfree86 > > Andy, > thanks you very much for your answer, but now, when I start the > startxwin.bat, I get twice the Message of running out of resources :( > Well, I think it's better to go the way of the bash shell, that is more > stable, but as I said, really small and I see only the window of Xterm > white > in a low resolution... > > Out of environment, the environment variables fills out the space for > them, add > > SHELL=X:\PATH\COMMAND.COM /P /E:NNNN > > Make sure x:\path\command.com points to command.com, probably > something like c:\windows\command.com, start with 2048 as NNNN > > For starters, turn off zone alarm, maybe uninstall it, to make it easy > to get started sort of.. > > /Andy > > / "Pellegrino Fabio" wrote: > | Hi, > | > | I know I'm a newbie but I hope not a lost case. I posted my question > | yesterday but got no answer, perhaps I'm really a lost case :) So, I > post > it > | again in the hope, that someone can help me: > | I downloaded the cygwin and the Xfree in Windows 98 SE as it is > explained > | three days ago, and I have installed it. After the installation I > started > | the startxwin.bat from a MS-Dos Prompt, and it's telling me for first, > that > | it is running out of resources. Then several MS-Dos Prompts open and the > | Zone Alarm Firewall ask the permissions for RXVT.exe and then for > Xwin.exe, > | Xterm and for last twm. But no difference what I make (If I give the > | permission or not) all the MS-Dos prompts closes and it remains the > | startxwin Window who is terminated. But for one time, the X Server > showed > up > | and closed after a few seconds. Naturally, I looked for a answer in the > | mailing lists, and I tried several things, but nothing helped. > | Then, as mentioned in the installation note, I tried to run X Server > from > | the cygwin bash shell, but it doesnt work. In a lucky case the X Server > | started, but in a very low resolution and the window was really small. > | Usually, every time I start the X Server from the bash shell, I get this > | anwer: > | > | _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > | winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > | winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > | winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > | winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > | winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > | winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Window Client width 640 height 480 > | winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 000f800 000007 e0 0000001f RGB 6 d > 16 > | winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > | _XSERVTransSocketUNIXAccept: accept () failed > | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server " :0.0" > | After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > | > | Waiting for X server to shut down. > | > | Here is my startxwin.bat file: > | @echo off > | SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > | SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin > | start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine - > 4 > | start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e bash > | start rxvt -fn "Lucidia Console-12" > | start twm > | > | I checked also my resolution in the Windows System, and it set at 16 and > my > | graphic card is a Chips 65555. The only time, that the X Server showed > up, > | it seems like to be in RGB mode...Have I to install the driver again in > | MS-Dos Mode? > | I don't know, if I must have an initial file like .emacs or .bashrc. I > think > | not, on the how-to page it is not mentioned, or I haven't seen it. > | > | Could someone give me a good advise in this really basic configuration, > I > | think? > | > | Thank You in advance > | > | Fabio > From flognat@flognat.myip.org Sat Jun 16 12:50:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:50:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: / Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: | You nee to put this in your Config.sys and reboot. | | shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p *warning* make sure c:\command.com exists.. isn't it windows 98 that starts to put it in c:\windows\command.com? /Andy From flognat@flognat.myip.org Sat Jun 16 13:00:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:00:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Uhm I meant something you can configure or so.. Or Hmm haven't they sepcified the direction of your pentagrams, and the exact amount of mule's you have to sacrifice before each fullmoon you want to use it?? :-) SOCKETS.. is that something like the SOCKD proxy-server or? /Andy [...] | Can you try, please? ;-) They wrote in their White papers the Greatest | Engineering Invention.... so do you think they will listen to anyone? ;-) | If they supposed to, they would not have thought to mess around with SOCKETS | and force everyone to use their Greatest inventions. | | Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 15:39:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:39:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start Xfree86 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D70@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Markebo [ mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:51 PM > To: 'Pellegrino Fabio'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: Cannot start Xfree86 > > / Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > | You nee to put this in your Config.sys and reboot. > | > | shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p > > *warning* make sure c:\command.com exists.. isn't it windows 98 that > starts to put it in c:\windows\command.com? > > /Andy Oh well may I do not know. I hate Win98/95 and ME. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 15:43:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D71@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Uhm I meant something you can configure or so.. Or Hmm haven't they > sepcified the direction of your pentagrams, and the exact amount of > mule's you have to sacrifice before each fullmoon you want to use it?? > :-) The configuration option is there... I guess... one user wrote I guess sacrifice button is not ;-) > > SOCKETS.. is that something like the SOCKD proxy-server or? no like in SOCKS Suhaib > > /Andy > > [...] > > | Can you try, please? ;-) They wrote in their White papers the Greatest > | Engineering Invention.... so do you think they will listen to anyone? ;- > ) > | If they supposed to, they would not have thought to mess around with > SOCKETS > | and force everyone to use their Greatest inventions. > | > | Suhaib From mathezer@yahoo.com Sat Jun 16 16:42:00 2001 From: mathezer@yahoo.com (Stephen Mathezer) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:42:00 -0000 Subject: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D5D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010616174614.A7031@yahoo.com> * Suhaib Siddiqi [010615 17:30]: > > > Well first off all if you (I mean any user) are on yahoo, hotmail, excite or > any web based mail, please do not cc to me. Your mail will not go through, > I block at our server any outgoing and incoming traffic to web based mail > services. I am against them, for several reasons, basically they > are a good source of 'Reply To;" for junk mailers. Second I tell my users > at work why do you need those services if you already got an e-mail account > here, for which I get yelled because I won't let them access those free web > based mail services URLs too ;-) Agreed -for the most part-. I use Yahoo so that I am not dependent on an employer or ISP for email access. If I change either (I've changed both recently) I would rather not have to hassle with forwarding email and getting everybody using my new address. I use fetchmail to grab my Yahoo mail and then do whatever makes sense with it. It is nice being able to get your email anywhere but I agree that spam to/from the web based accounts is always a problem. [ snip ] > > I will reiterate a couple of points here, and let me point out that if I > > was one of the list regulars/developers I would simply say something > > like "check the archives this has been answered before", > > Oh I stopped saying it... because each time I said that, a few users email > to the list and or to me and called me "Asshole" (you will those emails in > mail archive from 1999, 2000). They expect a full Technical Support > Department here, perhaps better then any software vendor provides. If you > wish to say it, expect a strong heart and be ready to listen names from a > bunch of childish and rediculous people. > I know the feeling, I just thought that Robert had gone to some trouble to do his best to explore all the possibilities and post reasonable questions, rather than just asking for the step by step childproof instructions for making Cygwin work on Linux :) :) :) > > -Telnet to localhost:6000 is, while not complete in all respects, at > > least a decent indication that the VPN client is not doing something as > > basic as blocking all connections to localhost:6000 as some seem to > > imply. Can somebody please explain to me why TerreTermSSH X forwarding > > (see below), displaying remote X clients on the cygwin > > server, and telnet to localhost:6000 all work if the VPN software is > > truly blocking ports. > > > Actually, What I suspect, though I am not 100% sure, VPN, and in particular > Aventail, does not like Cygwin using UNIXDOMAIN sockets (AF_UNIX). I think > that is what going on.... BUT I AM NOT SURE BECAUSE I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO > IT SERIOUSLY. I DO PLAN TO SIT DOWN THIS WEEKEND AND BEAT MY HEAD ON THIS > ISSUE. > Out of curiosity, if Cygwin is emulating AF_UNIX sockets using files then how could Aventail have its fingers in there? Never mind, I just went and read Robert's explanation in a later message. > > > > -Since the problem occurs even if the VPN client is not running, it is > > obviously not some case of the VPN client not allowing split-tunneling > > or something like that. This has to come down to some interaction with > > the TCP stack. Then again, why does adding exceptions to the VPN client > > cause things to work even when the client isn't running? > > > I think adding exception to VPN work because, perpahs, Aventail on > installation modify TCP/IP stack and owns it.... just like AOL 6.0 browser, > Even if you do not use it, it will screw up other browsers once AOL 6.0 is > intsalled... well not a good example ;-) > > CheckPoint SecureRemote modifies NT kernel and also TCP/IP stack, that I > know from their documentation, but it does not give any problems. > Yeah I guess so, I just can't imagine anybody writing something that way in this day and age with so many different things dependent on TCP/IP. It is really nasty that you still have to add the clients as exceptions even if the VPN isn't running. For what its worth for future reference, I have the Nortel VPN client installed under 2000 and that does not cause me any problems. > > > > -TeraTermSSH (like any SSH client) can forward X windows connections from > > remote machines. This requires the SSH client running under 98 to > > connect to localhost:6000 to proxy the X windows request that it is > > forwarding over the encrypted channel from the remote machine. This has > > been repeated ad nauseum on the list. TeraTermSSH is a perfectly good > > example of an X Windows client that works. That being said, it > > certainly would make sense to try another. > > > What I think Aventail simply won't let you do X forwarding. Is there a rule > to turn it on off? I do not know because I do not use it. > One would think it would be possible to exclude certain IP addresses (like 127.0.0.1) but I don't know. > Suhaib What I may do if I have some time this weekend is to install Windows ME under VMWare and see if I can duplicate any of these problems *without* a VPN client installed. -Steve _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Jun 16 17:26:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:26:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D6D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <007a01c0f6c4$3bcf05e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Thatwould be my guess, but no users of the product have succeeded in configuring it to do that by port, only by application - and there are a lot of apps :]. Also we don't know that 127.0.0.1 as the source address is the problem - thats just my current theory. Once we establish the cause, by finding a workaround, we can a) write a testcase b) get a supported user of the product to log a support call: the requirements will be clear, not a fuzzy "lets get X working please". Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Markebo" To: "Suhaib Siddiqi" Cc: "'Robert Collins'" ; Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 4:25 AM Subject: Re: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" > Can't you just tell aventail to skip socking the X11 stuff, and just > let it through as normal, everybody's TCP/IP? > > /Andy > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 18:00:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D73@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I have updated the binary release of Cygwin/XFree86. Following problems are fixed: 1) Fixed XFree86-MISC extension. Some clients, e.g. xgc were crashing due to missing Xfree86-MISC extension. 2) Symbols export issues with DLls. 3) X uses only TCPCONN, instead of TCPCONN and UNIXCONN. 4) Fixed missing libz.dll issue. Executables and DLLs now use cygz.dll from /usr/bin. 5) Xterm startup warnings (seteguid 513, invalid) fixed. Following archives have been updated at ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/4.1.0 1) xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar.bz2 2) xfree86-4.1.0-DLLs.tar.bz2 3) xfree86-4.1.0-docs.tar.bz2 4) xfree86-4.1.0-man.tar.bz2 5) xfree86-4.1.0-XClients.tar.bz2 6) xfree86-4.1.0-Xmh.tar.bz2 7) xfree86-4.1.0-Xnest.tar.bz2 8) xfree86-4.1.0-Xprt.tar.bz2 9) xfree86-4.1.0-Xterm.tar.bz2 10) xfree86-4.1.0-Xvfb.tar.bz2 11) xfree86-4.1.0-XWin.tar.bz2 Please use nearest mirror for download. It might take upto 24 hours (for some mirrors might be longer) for new binaries to show up on mirror sites. Patches to source code will be submitted to xfree86.org after I have enough feed back from users. Suhaib From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Jun 16 18:01:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:01:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D73@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <011a01c0f6c9$34e7a6b0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 > > I have updated the binary release of Cygwin/XFree86. > Following problems are fixed: > > 1) Fixed XFree86-MISC extension. Some clients, e.g. xgc were crashing due > to missing Xfree86-MISC extension. > 2) Symbols export issues with DLls. > 3) X uses only TCPCONN, instead of TCPCONN and UNIXCONN. Do you mind if I ask wht UNIXCONN has been disabled? Rob From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 16 18:09:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:09:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D74@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Rob UNIXCONN includes sys/un.h headers, which TCPCONN uses only socket.h. Do you think using sys/un.h and sys/socket.h, both, is necessary? Upto Cygwin 1.1.2 I was using only TCPCONN and I did not notice any difference. I would activate it once again if needed. For now I want to see if It helps those users who are having "accept () failed" errors on Windows 95/98. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Collins [ mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:03 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:00 AM > Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 > > > > > > I have updated the binary release of Cygwin/XFree86. > > Following problems are fixed: > > > > 1) Fixed XFree86-MISC extension. Some clients, e.g. xgc were crashing > due > > to missing Xfree86-MISC extension. > > 2) Symbols export issues with DLls. > > 3) X uses only TCPCONN, instead of TCPCONN and UNIXCONN. > > Do you mind if I ask wht UNIXCONN has been disabled? > > Rob From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Jun 16 18:56:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:56:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D74@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <016501c0f6d0$d75694e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Robert Collins'" ; Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 > Rob > > UNIXCONN includes sys/un.h headers, which TCPCONN uses only socket.h. > > Do you think using sys/un.h and sys/socket.h, both, is necessary? Upto > Cygwin 1.1.2 I was using only TCPCONN and I did not notice any difference. Well UNIX sockets are local only, which does have some security benefit. > I would activate it once again if needed. For now I want to see if > It helps those users who are having "accept () failed" errors on Windows > 95/98. Ah ok. I like what Harold does with "TEST" releases to test this sort of change. It's my feeling that the main binaries shouldn't change to test things for users. I recall chris asking about freeing space up - Chris, is there room for two copies of the XFree86 binaries - one "stable", one "testing" ? Suhaib - if Chris has disk space for that, does that make sense to you? Rob > Suhaib > From cgf@cygnus.com Sat Jun 16 19:13:00 2001 From: cgf@cygnus.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:13:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D74@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <016501c0f6d0$d75694e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010616221424.A29024@redhat.com> On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:57:15AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >I recall chris asking about freeing space up - Chris, is there room for >two copies of the XFree86 binaries - one "stable", one "testing" ? > >Suhaib - if Chris has disk space for that, does that make sense to you? Unfortunately, no: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda14 4880298 4603325 175925 96% /sourceware/ftp There is free disk space available on sourceware but the last time I tried to use it, I ended up corrupting hundreds of files and spending untold hours trying to recover. This was due to a linux kernel bug with large disks. That is supposed to be fixed now but I'll let someone else be the guinea pig if they want to use it. So, there is no free disk space available in the short term. cgf From roger.wenham@t-online.de Sun Jun 17 03:37:00 2001 From: roger.wenham@t-online.de (Roger Wenham) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 03:37:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <00ec01c0f719$871ad6a0$032ba8c0@wenham.de> Hi, Was there a resolution of this problem (X server won't start in win95a)? The last post I could find was 14/6/01, and I have what looks like the exact same problem with Windows ME. I downloaded the latest sources for both Cygwin and XFree today, and startx and startxserv.bat produce a window and cursor, but thats it. Below is the output from startx: $ startx _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 640 height 480 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. .. ad infinitum..... I am no expert with X so this may be something stupid! Regards Roger From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 17 05:48:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:48:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated binaries for Xfree86 4.1.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D76@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > > Rob > > > > UNIXCONN includes sys/un.h headers, which TCPCONN uses only > socket.h. > > > > Do you think using sys/un.h and sys/socket.h, both, is necessary? > Upto > > Cygwin 1.1.2 I was using only TCPCONN and I did not notice any > difference. > > Well UNIX sockets are local only, which does have some security > benefit. > > > I would activate it once again if needed. For now I want to see if > > It helps those users who are having "accept () failed" errors on > Windows > > 95/98. > > Ah ok. I like what Harold does with "TEST" releases to test this sort > of > change. It's my feeling that the main binaries shouldn't change to > test > things for users. > > I recall chris asking about freeing space up - Chris, is there room > for > two copies of the XFree86 binaries - one "stable", one "testing" ? > > Suhaib - if Chris has disk space for that, does that make sense to > you? > > Rob > Well, since Chris said there is no space available, it is not feasible now. For users who wants UNIXCONN, they need to edit xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf file, and add UNIXCONN after TCPCONN for #define ConnectionFlags. Then recompile (make World). None of the code had been disabled. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 17 05:50:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:50:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D77@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: roger.wenham@t-online.de [ mailto:roger.wenham@t-online.de ] > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:38 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > Hi, > Was there a resolution of this problem (X server won't start in > win95a)? > > The last post I could find was 14/6/01, and I have what looks like the > exact > same problem with Windows ME. > > I downloaded the latest sources for both Cygwin and XFree today, and > startx > and startxserv.bat produce a window and cursor, but thats it. Which release of Cygwin/Xfree86? 4.1.0? If so, I uploaded updated binaries yesterday. Could you try them? Thanks Suhaib > > Below is the output from startx: > > $ startx > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 640 height 480 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d > 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > .. > .. > ad infinitum..... > > I am no expert with X so this may be something stupid! > > Regards > > Roger > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sun Jun 17 06:46:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:46:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <00ec01c0f719$871ad6a0$032ba8c0@wenham.de> Message-ID: <023d01c0f734$03a1a860$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> I saw that exact same behaviour recently when I was digging around with the AF_UNIX code. Can you try Suhaibs new binaries, or as a more bandwidth friendly tst, try not using startx, but instead XWin -screen 0 640 480 export DISPLAY=:0.0 [run some xclient here] If that works you may have discovered an issue with Unix sockets - could you 1) generate a cygcheck. 2) Do you have winsock 2 installed? Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Wenham" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > Hi, > Was there a resolution of this problem (X server won't start in win95a)? > > The last post I could find was 14/6/01, and I have what looks like the exact > same problem with Windows ME. > > I downloaded the latest sources for both Cygwin and XFree today, and startx > and startxserv.bat produce a window and cursor, but thats it. > > Below is the output from startx: > > $ startx > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 640 height 480 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > .. > .. > ad infinitum..... > > I am no expert with X so this may be something stupid! > > Regards > > Roger > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jun 17 08:05:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D79@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > I saw that exact same behaviour recently when I was digging around > with > the AF_UNIX code. > > Can you try Suhaibs new binaries, or as a more bandwidth friendly tst, > try not using startx, but instead > How about following ;-) > XWin -screen 0 640 480 XWIn -screen 0 640x480x16. I prefer to use this, though depth In Harold code is useless, but I did little change so it accepts -screen command like on UNIX that is -screen 0 WxHxD. Many UNIX users are used to of it, thus using -screen 0 640x480x16 was returning unkown -screen command error. I prefer old UNIX style command-line options. > export DISPLAY=:0.0 > [run some xclient here] > Please put export DISPLAy=127.0.0.1:0.0 before you issue XWin command. Thanks Suhaib > If that works you may have discovered an issue with Unix sockets - > could > you > > 1) generate a cygcheck. > 2) Do you have winsock 2 installed? > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Wenham" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:37 PM > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > Hi, > > Was there a resolution of this problem (X server won't start in > win95a)? > > > > The last post I could find was 14/6/01, and I have what looks like > the > exact > > same problem with Windows ME. > > > > I downloaded the latest sources for both Cygwin and XFree today, and > startx > > and startxserv.bat produce a window and cursor, but thats it. > > > > Below is the output from startx: > > > > $ startx > > > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 640 height > 480 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 > d > 16 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > > > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > > .. > > .. > > ad infinitum..... > > > > I am no expert with X so this may be something stupid! > > > > Regards > > > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 17 13:26:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:26:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: >> XWin -screen 0 640 480 > XWIn -screen 0 640x480x16. I prefer to use this, though depth > In Harold code is useless, but I did little change so it accepts -screen > command like on UNIX that is -screen 0 WxHxD. Many UNIX users are used to of > it, thus using -screen 0 640x480x16 was returning unkown -screen command > error. I prefer old UNIX style command-line options. I searched Xserver/hw/ for ddxProcessArguments and found exactly one server that uses -screen n WxHxD, namely, vfb. vfb is certainly not the server to take marching orders from. I saw a few servers that use -screen n, with no width, height, or depth specified (they only use this to set the preferred screen number). Xnest uses a -geometry parameter. In short, I see no server that uses -screen n WxHxD, other than vfb. Could you site a specific example of which "UNIX" server that you wish to maintain command line compatibility with? Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 17 14:19:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:19:00 -0000 Subject: [Feature-requests] was Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 31 References: <016f01c0f601$c92095d0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: Robert, > 1) /dev/clipboard integration - can be done through either win32 > clipboard calls or just open /dev/clipboard. If you want to post BINARY > data to the clipboard, the best way (IMO) is to use /dev/clipboard, so > we centralise that code (it handles binary now). It seems that clipboard support is described in the ICCCM (Inter-Client Communication Conventions Manual): http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/xwindows/ICCCM.pdf Page 11 of the main document section (page 16 of 70 total) mentions selection, cutting, copying, pasting, and the clipboard. I'll read the ICCCM when I have time, but others with more clipboard experience could probably implement clipboard support before I can... :) Harold From Henri.Hoffmann@SysConsult.de Sun Jun 17 14:28:00 2001 From: Henri.Hoffmann@SysConsult.de (Henri Hoffmann) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:28:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard setting Message-ID: <3B2D20E1.8EDE51EF@SysConsult.de> Nice product, works fine. Just one question, how to change the keyboard setting like in XF86Config ? Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbKeycodes "xfree86" XkbModel "pc104" XkbLayout "de" XkbVariant "nodeadkeys" EndSection Thanks Henri From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sun Jun 17 15:47:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:47:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D79@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <00c701c0f77f$a7159290$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Robert Collins'" ; "'Roger Wenham'" ; Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:05 AM Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > export DISPLAY=:0.0 > > [run some xclient here] > > > > Please put export DISPLAy=127.0.0.1:0.0 before you issue XWin command. No! The whole point is to avoid 127.0.0.1:0.0 for this test. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 17 20:09:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:09:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 32 Message-ID: I just posted Test 32 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test32.exe.bz2 (1042 KB) Changes: 1) Discard keyboard messages for the left and right Windows keys. 2) Process keyboard message recounts, even though the repeat count is almost always 1. Enjoy, Harold From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Mon Jun 18 02:04:00 2001 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:04:00 -0000 Subject: [Feature-requests] Real PseudoColor 8-bits References: Message-ID: <03b801c0f7d6$22d2b470$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Hi Harold, everything is in the title, but I'm sure you know that feature from me ;-) Thanks. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 05:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:02:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard setting Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D7F@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Try http://www.gotti.org . You will information there on how to use German keyboard. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Henri Hoffmann [ mailto:Henri.Hoffmann@SysConsult.de ] > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:28 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: Keyboard setting > > > Nice product, works fine. > Just one question, how to change the keyboard setting like in > XF86Config > ? > > Section "Keyboard" > Protocol "Standard" > XkbRules "xfree86" > XkbKeycodes "xfree86" > XkbModel "pc104" > XkbLayout "de" > XkbVariant "nodeadkeys" > EndSection > > Thanks > > Henri > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 05:07:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:07:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D81@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 4:26 PM > To: cygx > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > >> XWin -screen 0 640 480 > > XWIn -screen 0 640x480x16. I prefer to use this, though depth > > In Harold code is useless, but I did little change so it > accepts -screen > > command like on UNIX that is -screen 0 WxHxD. Many UNIX > users are used to > of > > it, thus using -screen 0 640x480x16 was returning unkown > -screen command > > error. I prefer old UNIX style command-line options. > > I searched Xserver/hw/ for ddxProcessArguments and found > exactly one server > that uses -screen n WxHxD, namely, vfb. vfb is certainly not > the server to > take marching orders from. I saw a few servers that use > -screen n, with no > width, height, or depth specified (they only use this to set > the preferred > screen number). Xnest uses a -geometry parameter. > > In short, I see no server that uses -screen n WxHxD, other > than vfb. Could > you site a specific example of which "UNIX" server that you > wish to maintain > command line compatibility with? Vfb is one of the example which you are quoting. Also, in geometry we use WxH for dimension. Third, I do not see a reason to change the old convension of -screen 0 WxH to -screen 0 W H? I did not understand a logic behind changing command-line parameters. In XWIn I borrowed command-line parameters basically from xvfb, and also the usual way of representing a geometry is WxH, not W H therefore I borrowed it from Xvfb. What purpose does it server if we were to keep changing command-line parameters format? In my opinion we will be inviting more mails from current users "like hey it used to work like that but now my startxwin script fails, what did I do wrong?" Suhaib > > Thanks, > > Harold > From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Mon Jun 18 05:23:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:23:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste Message-ID: <3B2DF2D3.809F3C99@team.owl-online.de> Hi, I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an answer yet... Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is working fine with "native" Linux. This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin (without cut and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 machine. That ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when trying to open some X-Programms on it. So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever seen on the net, but... no mouse is running tough... Any help outside????? -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 05:36:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D82@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> cut and paste between X should work like on your Linux box.... that is highlight then press both mouse button to paste... does it not work for you? If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that one is not available yet. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > Hi, > > I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an > answer yet... > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is working fine with > "native" Linux. > This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin (without cut > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 machine. That > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when trying to open some > X-Programms on it. > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever seen on the > net, but... > no mouse is running tough... > Any help outside????? > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de > > From jasonday@mediaone.net Mon Jun 18 07:22:00 2001 From: jasonday@mediaone.net (Jason Day) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:22:00 -0000 Subject: new testcase: Re: Info on "Can't open display" References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D64@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <004601c0f67f$5def3090$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010618101226.A10299@spiderman.cherlon.com> On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 02:14:05AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > Can someone experiencing the problem with Aventail try the following: > > start the X server, but no clients. > start bash > $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 > then from the same bash session run vtwm or some window manager. > > I'm guessing that that will work with Aventail. Just tried it, and it didn't work. Got exactly the same message, with my IP instead of 127.0.0.1. -- Jason Day jasonday at http://jasonday.home.att.net mediaone dot net "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me." -- Weyoun-6, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 08:25:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:25:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D83@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:28 AM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > I installed cygwin and xfree86 4.0.3 on a 3rd win95 machine. Lo and > behold, this one worked! The other two still didn't. I haven't figured > out what is the difference between these machines. I suppose > windows is > so obscure that such detective work may be painstaking and > time-consuming. Have you heard from anyone else who had the symptoms I > have, i.e. waiting for X server to accept connections? I think that is > the key to the mystery. Do you have any further insights? Why do not you try Xfree86 4.1.0? No I do not have any insight, except that your windows TCP/IP might be messed up on those two machines. Hard to say anything. Suhaib > > Raymond > > On 15 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 AM > >> To: Suhaib Siddiqi > >> Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > >> > >> > >> X server did not start with testx. I have tried both cygwin > >> 1.1.8-2 and > >> 1.3.1-1 without success. The only thing I have not tried is > >> the newest cygwin > >> and the newest xfree86. Have other people reported success > >> with win95a? > > > > Yes, you can check mail archive. > > Can you try Cygwin 1.3.2 and XFree86 4.1.0? > > > > Suhaib > > > >> > >> Raymond > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > >> > Please put the attached "testx" file in /usr/X11R6/bin, > >> then open a Cygwin > >> > bash shell. > >> > > >> > Cd /usr/X11R6/bin > >> > > >> > Chmod 755 testx > >> > ./testx > >> > > >> > PS: Change vtwm & to twm& if you do not have vtwm installed. > >> > Remove or rename your .xinitrc and .xserverrc files. > >> > > >> > Let me know if server starts or not. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:16 PM > >> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >> > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > >> > > > >> > > I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't > >> work. Should I > >> > > try others? > >> > > > >> > > Raymond > >> > > > >> > > > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the > >> > > > title of the > >> > > > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the > >> window changes to > >> > > > an X server window! > >> > > > > >> > > > My .xinitrc is standard: > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > >> > > > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > >> > > > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > >> > > > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > >> > > > twm > >> > > > > >> > > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > >> > > > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 > >> > > > -engine 4 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if > it works. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Suhaib > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the > >> same results. > >> > > > > >> > > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > >> > > > > >> > > > Many thanks for your fast response. > >> > > > > >> > > > Raymond > >> > > > > >> > > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > >> > > > >> Everything works except > >> > > > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin > window comes > >> > > > >> up but does not > >> > > > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm > then come up, > >> > > > >> stay for a while > >> > > > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > >> > > > >> exit. I need to kill > >> > > > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > We need more info. > >> > > > > post your startxwin.bat > >> > > > > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you use > >> > > > startxwin.bat? > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. > I created > >> > > > >> .xinitrc and > >> > > > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to > >> > > > >> XWin, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you > >> > > > explain what > >> > > > > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or > >> > > > x-server window, > >> > > > > whatever. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Suhaib > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> and after > >> > > > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying > "waiting for > >> > > > >> X server to > >> > > > >> begin accepting connections" followed by > periods. If I kill > >> > > > >> it by Ctrl-C, > >> > > > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > >> > > > >> directory (errno 2): > >> > > > >> unexpected signal 2". > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the > >> > > > >> impression that > >> > > > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > >> > > > >> interesting to observe > >> > > > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is > >> > > > >> excruciatingly > >> > > > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Thanks! > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Raymond Kwong > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > From Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com Mon Jun 18 09:26:00 2001 From: Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com (Luc Ferran) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:26:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! Message-ID: <3B2E2BA5.B7D08ADC@gemplus.com> Hi all, lauching Xemacs 2.1.13 under Xfree 4.1.0 Cygwin 1.1.8 (last ftp binaries pre compiled from 17/06/2001) cause le X server to crash. Lauching the same xemacs under cygwin (no X server) is ok. Recompilation work only if *.el are not recompiled. Anything to do? thanks Luc From landrieu@hotmail.com Mon Jun 18 10:27:00 2001 From: landrieu@hotmail.com (Christopher Landrieu) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:27:00 -0000 Subject: More Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: Okay... I finally found enough time this past weekend to persue this a little further. I started looking through the code and found the handy XTRANSDEBUG feature. More on that in a bit. First, I appreciate everyone's recent comments and suggestions. I've gotten a lot of ideas from the various discussions and thoughs that have been flying through the list. On the topic of UNIX domain sockets and Cygwin's implementation of them, I don't believe that this is causing the Aventail troubles. The requirements for the transport code to choose the domain socket communication method are vary specific. I found the code in xc/lib/X11/ConnDis.c and in xc/lib/xtrans/. It seems that domain sockets (AF_UNIX address familly) will only be used in place of TCP sockets when the IP address in $DISPLAY matches the machines local IP address. It can also be specified in $DISPLAY by prepending "unix/". Just the same, "tcp/" can be prepended to specify that a TCP socket connection should be used (AF_INET). After finding this, I decided to play around with it a bit to see if it changed anything. Unfortunately, the problem remained. Also, the domain sockets topic does not explain why local X clients would fail to connect to remote displays. Anyway, after fishing through xc/lib/xtrans a bit more, I found what I needed to fully enable XTRANSDEBUGing (debugging messages in the transport code of XFree86). So, I turned it up to five, did "make World", and installed the DLLs. When I tried xterm, I got a flurry of useful messages in my command window. What I found in the debug messages is that it seems as if setting the socket connection to be non-blocking is what is failing. Here is the debug from a failed run (with Aventail running): === Begin debug listing === Xtrans debug:_X11TransOpenCOTSClient(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransOpen(1,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransSelectTransport(tcp) _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient(tcp,127.0.0.1,0) _X11TransSocketSelectFamily(tcp) _X11TransSocketOpen(1,1) _X11TransConnect(3,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransSocketINETConnect(3,127.0.0.1,0) _X11TransSocketINETConnect: inet_addr(127.0.0.1) = 100007f _X11TransSocketINETConnect: sockname.sin_port = 6000 _X11TransSocketINETGetAddr(14ad7108) _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr(14ad7108) _X11TransGetPeerAddr(3) _X11TransConvertAddress(2,16,14ad7198) _X11TransSetOption(3,2,1) _X11TransSocketWritev(3,26bf99c,1) _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) _X11TransSocketDisconnect(14ad7108,3) _X11TransClose(3) _X11TransSocketINETClose(14ad7108,3) _X11TransFreeConnInfo(14ad7108) xterm Xt error: Can't open display: tcp/127.0.0.1:0.0 === End debug listing === The _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) message corresponds to the call in _XSendClientPrefix() to _X11TransSetOption(dpy->trans_conn, TRANS_NONBLOCKING, 1). This essentially does either an fcntl() or an ioctl() on the socket to do poll the socket instead of blocking on recv() calls (when there is no data available yet). The next message after that is the client disconnecting and closing the socket (so Aventail is not closing the socket). Now of course this does not necessarily mean that it is that call that is failing. These messages only display for calls to the functions in xc/lib/xtrans. There may be something after this call which is failing and then initiating the disconnect and close. After seeing this, I decided to check out what happens when the connection is successful (by putting xterm in as an exception in Aventail). I did this and got the following: === Begin debug listing === _X11TransOpenCOTSClient(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransOpen(1,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransSelectTransport(tcp) _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient(tcp,127.0.0.1,0) _X11TransSocketSelectFamily(tcp) _X11TransSocketOpen(1,1) _X11TransConnect(3,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) _X11TransSocketINETConnect(3,127.0.0.1,0) _X11TransSocketINETConnect: inet_addr(127.0.0.1) = 100007f _X11TransSocketINETConnect: sockname.sin_port = 6000 _X11TransSocketINETGetAddr(14ad7108) _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr(14ad7108) _X11TransGetPeerAddr(3) _X11TransConvertAddress(2,16,14ad7198) _X11TransSetOption(3,2,1) _X11TransSocketWritev(3,26bf99c,1) _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa54,8) _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa54,8) _X11TransSocketRead(3,14ad7840,256) _X11TransSocketWrite(3,14ad3428,64) _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa6c,32) _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa6c,32) _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa6c,32) _X11TransSocketWrite(3,14ad3428,4) ... === End debug listing === The messages go on and on from there. As you can see, the next message after the "_X11TransSetOption(3,1,1)" is a call to _X11TransSocketRead(). This read takes place about 15 lines down in XOpenDisplay() from where _X11SendClientPrefix() returns. There isn't much there between the _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) and the call to _X11TransSocketRead(). The only thing that looked suspicious to me is the LockDisplay() call. I traced through it and couldn't find anything else that would cause it to abort due to a network problem. Therefore, by process of elimination, I think it must be the attempt to set TRANS_NONBLOCKING on the socket. My next plan of attack is to write a small test program or two to test the the use of that flag. Also, I want to trace through the Cygwin code for fcntl() and/or ioctl(), whichever one is being used in this case, and find out how Cygwin translates that to a WinSock call. I am confident that this will lead us closer to either a bug report to give to Aventail or a fix (or at least something to discuss) in Cygwin and XFree86. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 18 11:24:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:24:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <200106181829.OAA24541@thor.control.toronto.edu> I installed the same set of files on the 3rd win95 machine to re-assure myself that the installation does work. The only thing I have noticed so far is that the working win95 machine did not have directX installed, whereas one of the non-working win95 machines has directX version 4 installed. Could that have caused a problem? Raymond > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:28 AM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > I installed cygwin and xfree86 4.0.3 on a 3rd win95 machine. Lo and > behold, this one worked! The other two still didn't. I haven't figured > out what is the difference between these machines. I suppose > windows is > so obscure that such detective work may be painstaking and > time-consuming. Have you heard from anyone else who had the symptoms I > have, i.e. waiting for X server to accept connections? I think that is > the key to the mystery. Do you have any further insights? Why do not you try Xfree86 4.1.0? No I do not have any insight, except that your windows TCP/IP might be messed up on those two machines. Hard to say anything. Suhaib > > Raymond > > On 15 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 AM > >> To: Suhaib Siddiqi > >> Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > >> > >> > >> X server did not start with testx. I have tried both cygwin > >> 1.1.8-2 and > >> 1.3.1-1 without success. The only thing I have not tried is > >> the newest cygwin > >> and the newest xfree86. Have other people reported success > >> with win95a? > > > > Yes, you can check mail archive. > > Can you try Cygwin 1.3.2 and XFree86 4.1.0? > > > > Suhaib > > > >> > >> Raymond > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > >> > Please put the attached "testx" file in /usr/X11R6/bin, > >> then open a Cygwin > >> > bash shell. > >> > > >> > Cd /usr/X11R6/bin > >> > > >> > Chmod 755 testx > >> > ./testx > >> > > >> > PS: Change vtwm & to twm& if you do not have vtwm installed. > >> > Remove or rename your .xinitrc and .xserverrc files. > >> > > >> > Let me know if server starts or not. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:16 PM > >> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >> > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > >> > > > >> > > I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't > >> work. Should I > >> > > try others? > >> > > > >> > > Raymond > >> > > > >> > > > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the > >> > > > title of the > >> > > > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the > >> window changes to > >> > > > an X server window! > >> > > > > >> > > > My .xinitrc is standard: > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > >> > > > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > >> > > > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > >> > > > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > >> > > > twm > >> > > > > >> > > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > >> > > > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 > >> > > > -engine 4 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if > it works. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Suhaib > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the > >> same results. > >> > > > > >> > > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > >> > > > > >> > > > Many thanks for your fast response. > >> > > > > >> > > > Raymond > >> > > > > >> > > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > >> > > > >> Everything works except > >> > > > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin > window comes > >> > > > >> up but does not > >> > > > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm > then come up, > >> > > > >> stay for a while > >> > > > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > >> > > > >> exit. I need to kill > >> > > > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > We need more info. > >> > > > > post your startxwin.bat > >> > > > > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you use > >> > > > startxwin.bat? > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. > I created > >> > > > >> .xinitrc and > >> > > > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes to > >> > > > >> XWin, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you > >> > > > explain what > >> > > > > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or > >> > > > x-server window, > >> > > > > whatever. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Suhaib > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> and after > >> > > > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying > "waiting for > >> > > > >> X server to > >> > > > >> begin accepting connections" followed by > periods. If I kill > >> > > > >> it by Ctrl-C, > >> > > > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > >> > > > >> directory (errno 2): > >> > > > >> unexpected signal 2". > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under the > >> > > > >> impression that > >> > > > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > >> > > > >> interesting to observe > >> > > > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it is > >> > > > >> excruciatingly > >> > > > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Thanks! > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Raymond Kwong > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > From rcristel@sprint.ca Mon Jun 18 11:35:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (robert cristel) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:35:00 -0000 Subject: bad link Message-ID: <3B2E498C.423092E2@sprint.ca> on page Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide chapter 4 links Best Regards, -Robert Cristel Montreal, Canada From fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch Mon Jun 18 11:37:00 2001 From: fpellegr@ee.ethz.ch (Pellegrino Fabio) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:37:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Cannot start Xfree86 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D70@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <000301c0f825$c061fee0$d789023e@cablecom.ch> Hi, thank you very much for the severals replies. That is a real support! I tried to download the newest release, but something went wrong; I will do it again, but now, I have also Problems with Xemacs and my init file, so one thing after the other :) I have the command.com in both dirs: Under c:\ and under c:\windows and, even under c:\Windows\Command\EBD Cheers Fabio -----Urspr????ngliche Nachricht----- Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com ] im Auftrag von Suhaib Siddiqi Gesendet am: Sonntag, 17. Juni 2001 00:40 An: 'Andrew Markebo'; 'Pellegrino Fabio'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Betreff: RE: Cannot start Xfree86 > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Markebo [ mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org ] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:51 PM > To: 'Pellegrino Fabio'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: Cannot start Xfree86 > > / Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > | You nee to put this in your Config.sys and reboot. > | > | shell=C:\Command.com /e:4096 /p > > *warning* make sure c:\command.com exists.. isn't it windows 98 that > starts to put it in c:\windows\command.com? > > /Andy Oh well may I do not know. I hate Win98/95 and ME. Suhaib From rcristel@sprint.ca Mon Jun 18 11:44:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (robert cristel) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:44:00 -0000 Subject: bad links Message-ID: <3B2E4BB7.6899C35C@sprint.ca> on page Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide first 2 links chapters 3 and 4 Best Regards, -Robert Cristel Montreal, Canada From rcristel@sprint.ca Mon Jun 18 12:09:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (robert cristel) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <3B2E519B.3E1F25A2@sprint.ca> I have the latest Cygwin and X, windows 98 2ed and it's a _no_ go also. Yes, Raymond Kwong, directX is installed. (Most Windows machines will have directX. The only exceptions I can think of is the Windows machines of the Cygwin developers!) -r From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 12:59:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:59:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D84@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Please use the latest Cygwin i.e.1.3.2 Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Luc Ferran [ mailto:Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com ] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:26 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! > > > Hi all, lauching Xemacs 2.1.13 under Xfree 4.1.0 Cygwin > 1.1.8 (last ftp > binaries pre compiled from 17/06/2001) cause le X server to crash. > > Lauching the same xemacs under cygwin (no X server) is ok. > Recompilation work only if *.el are not recompiled. > > Anything to do? > > thanks > > Luc > From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 18 13:06:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:06:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <200106182011.QAA24672@thor.control.toronto.edu> I have cygwin and X working on 3 different computers: 1 windows 2000 desktop, 1 windows 2000 laptop, and a windows 95 desktop. The cygwin and X versions are the same in all 3. The windows 2000 machines have directX of course, but the windows 95 machine doesn't seem to have it. I am not saying that directX is necessarily the cause of the problem. It could be that there was an improper installation at some point. I have not tried it on a windows 98 machine yet. The only conclusion I can draw at this point is that there exists still some compatibility issues with the X server in win9x, but it seems to work fine in windows 2000 and probably NT 4.0. Raymond >I have the latest Cygwin and X, windows 98 2ed and it's a _no_ go also. >Yes, Raymond Kwong, directX is installed. (Most Windows machines will >have directX. The only exceptions I can think of is the Windows >machines of the Cygwin developers!) >-r From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 18 13:30:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:30:00 -0000 Subject: More Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: Chris, Excellent detective work. I think you are really on the trail to solving the problem with Aventail. Good luck, and keep us posted, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 18 13:33:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:33:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: Raymond, There may be something wrong with the DirectDraw presence/version detection code. Pass the '-engine 1' parameter to XWin.exe in your startup script (possibly startxwin.bat); '-engine 1' forces the server to use the GDI engine. Let me know if this works for you, as I'll need to go in and fix the DirectDraw detection code. Also, let me know if this does not work for you, as I won't need to go in and fix the code :) Good luck, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 18 13:37:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:37:00 -0000 Subject: bad links Message-ID: >on page > Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide >first 2 links chapters 3 and 4 Huh? I don't see any broken links. You're going to have to be more specific. Harold From xxxJohnnyBlaze@hotmail.com Mon Jun 18 13:38:00 2001 From: xxxJohnnyBlaze@hotmail.com (xxxJohnnyBlaze) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:38:00 -0000 Subject: error in tar -xf xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar Message-ID: Hi All, I'm get an error tying to tar a necessary tar file called xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar. Is there a package that I need to install first. I am using Win2000 with Cygwin 1.1.8 tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/lbxproxy: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/proxymngr: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rstart: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/twm: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xsm: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Thanks, Johnny From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 18 13:45:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:45:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: Message-ID: <200106182050.QAA24771@thor.control.toronto.edu> Harold: I'll try your suggestion more thoroughly tonight. I want also to mention that I just installed cygwin and X on a win98 machine, and it worked fine. The win98 machine has directX of course. Raymond On 18 Jun, Harold Hunt wrote: > Raymond, > > There may be something wrong with the DirectDraw presence/version detection > code. Pass the '-engine 1' parameter to XWin.exe in your startup script > (possibly startxwin.bat); '-engine 1' forces the server to use the GDI > engine. > > Let me know if this works for you, as I'll need to go in and fix the > DirectDraw detection code. Also, let me know if this does not work for you, > as I won't need to go in and fix the code :) > > Good luck, > > Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 17:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:02:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D87@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> On the Windows 95a machines with DirectX 4, installed you can try using GDI blitter. That is -engine 1, instead of 4. Edit startxwin.bat or your startx script and replace -engine 4 by engine 1. If DirectX 4 is causing problems, you may see a GDI display. Let us know Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:30 PM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > I installed the same set of files on the 3rd win95 machine to re- > assure > myself that the installation does work. The only thing I have noticed > so > far is that the working win95 machine did not have directX installed, > whereas one of the non-working win95 machines has directX version 4 > installed. Could that have caused a problem? > > Raymond > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:28 AM > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > I installed cygwin and xfree86 4.0.3 on a 3rd win95 machine. Lo and > > behold, this one worked! The other two still didn't. I haven't > figured > > out what is the difference between these machines. I suppose > > windows is > > so obscure that such detective work may be painstaking and > > time-consuming. Have you heard from anyone else who had the symptoms > I > > have, i.e. waiting for X server to accept connections? I think that > is > > the key to the mystery. Do you have any further insights? > > > Why do not you try Xfree86 4.1.0? No I do not have any insight, > except that > your windows TCP/IP might be messed up on those two machines. Hard to > say > anything. > > Suhaib > > > > > Raymond > > > > On 15 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 AM > > >> To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > >> Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > >> > > >> > > >> X server did not start with testx. I have tried both cygwin > > >> 1.1.8-2 and > > >> 1.3.1-1 without success. The only thing I have not tried is > > >> the newest cygwin > > >> and the newest xfree86. Have other people reported success > > >> with win95a? > > > > > > Yes, you can check mail archive. > > > Can you try Cygwin 1.3.2 and XFree86 4.1.0? > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > >> > > >> Raymond > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > >> > Please put the attached "testx" file in /usr/X11R6/bin, > > >> then open a Cygwin > > >> > bash shell. > > >> > > > >> > Cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > >> > > > >> > Chmod 755 testx > > >> > ./testx > > >> > > > >> > PS: Change vtwm & to twm& if you do not have vtwm installed. > > >> > Remove or rename your .xinitrc and .xserverrc files. > > >> > > > >> > Let me know if server starts or not. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:16 PM > > >> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > >> > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > >> > > > > >> > > I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't > > >> work. Should I > > >> > > try others? > > >> > > > > >> > > Raymond > > >> > > > > >> > > > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the > > >> > > > title of the > > >> > > > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the > > >> window changes to > > >> > > > an X server window! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > My .xinitrc is standard: > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > >> > > > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > >> > > > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > > >> > > > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > > >> > > > twm > > >> > > > > > >> > > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > >> > > > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel > 0 > > >> > > > -engine 4 > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if > > it works. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Suhaib > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the > > >> same results. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks for your fast response. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Raymond > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > > >> > > > >> Everything works except > > >> > > > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin > > window comes > > >> > > > >> up but does not > > >> > > > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm > > then come up, > > >> > > > >> stay for a while > > >> > > > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > > >> > > > >> exit. I need to kill > > >> > > > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > We need more info. > > >> > > > > post your startxwin.bat > > >> > > > > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you > use > > >> > > > startxwin.bat? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. > > I created > > >> > > > >> .xinitrc and > > >> > > > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes > to > > >> > > > >> XWin, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you > > >> > > > explain what > > >> > > > > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or > > >> > > > x-server window, > > >> > > > > whatever. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Suhaib > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> and after > > >> > > > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying > > "waiting for > > >> > > > >> X server to > > >> > > > >> begin accepting connections" followed by > > periods. If I kill > > >> > > > >> it by Ctrl-C, > > >> > > > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > > >> > > > >> directory (errno 2): > > >> > > > >> unexpected signal 2". > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under > the > > >> > > > >> impression that > > >> > > > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > > >> > > > >> interesting to observe > > >> > > > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it > is > > >> > > > >> excruciatingly > > >> > > > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> Thanks! > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> Raymond Kwong > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 17:06:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:06:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D88@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Could you post exactly what are the problems? "no go" is not enough to help you. Copy of your startxwin.bat or start up script? Cygwin version, Xfree86 version? What fails? Does server core dumps or are you having display problems as Raymond Kwong mentioned... Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: robert cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:08 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > I have the latest Cygwin and X, windows 98 2ed and it's a _no_ go > also. > Yes, Raymond Kwong, directX is installed. (Most Windows machines will > have directX. The only exceptions I can think of is the Windows > machines of the Cygwin developers!) > > -r > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 17:20:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:20:00 -0000 Subject: More Info on "Can't open display" Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D89@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Cool, thanks for doing this. > Okay... I finally found enough time this past weekend to persue this a > little further. I started looking through the code and found the > handy > XTRANSDEBUG feature. More on that in a bit. > > First, I appreciate everyone's recent comments and suggestions. I've > gotten > a lot of ideas from the various discussions and thoughs that have been > flying through the list. > > On the topic of UNIX domain sockets and Cygwin's implementation of > them, I > don't believe that this is causing the Aventail troubles. The > requirements > for the transport code to choose the domain socket communication > method are > vary specific. I found the code in xc/lib/X11/ConnDis.c and in > xc/lib/xtrans/. These are standard X stuff. Nothing specific to Cygwin was added here And nothing was taken out. > What I found in the debug messages is that it seems as if setting the > socket > connection to be non-blocking is what is failing. Here is the debug > from a > failed run (with Aventail running): > > === Begin debug listing === > Xtrans debug:_X11TransOpenCOTSClient(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransOpen(1,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransSelectTransport(tcp) > _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient(tcp,127.0.0.1,0) > _X11TransSocketSelectFamily(tcp) > _X11TransSocketOpen(1,1) > _X11TransConnect(3,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransSocketINETConnect(3,127.0.0.1,0) > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: inet_addr(127.0.0.1) = 100007f > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: sockname.sin_port = 6000 > _X11TransSocketINETGetAddr(14ad7108) > _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr(14ad7108) > _X11TransGetPeerAddr(3) > _X11TransConvertAddress(2,16,14ad7198) > _X11TransSetOption(3,2,1) > _X11TransSocketWritev(3,26bf99c,1) > _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) > _X11TransSocketDisconnect(14ad7108,3) > _X11TransClose(3) > _X11TransSocketINETClose(14ad7108,3) > _X11TransFreeConnInfo(14ad7108) > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: tcp/127.0.0.1:0.0 > === End debug listing === > > The _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) message corresponds to the call in > _XSendClientPrefix() to _X11TransSetOption(dpy->trans_conn, > TRANS_NONBLOCKING, 1). This essentially does either an fcntl() or an > ioctl() on the socket to do poll the socket instead of blocking on > recv() > calls (when there is no data available yet). > > The next message after that is the client disconnecting and closing > the > socket (so Aventail is not closing the socket). Now of course this > does not > necessarily mean that it is that call that is failing. These messages > only > display for calls to the functions in xc/lib/xtrans. There may be > something > after this call which is failing and then initiating the disconnect > and > close. You are seeing only display for calls to the functions in xc/lib/xtrans, as you said. > > After seeing this, I decided to check out what happens when the > connection > is successful (by putting xterm in as an exception in Aventail). I > did this > and got the following: > > === Begin debug listing === > _X11TransOpenCOTSClient(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransOpen(1,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransSelectTransport(tcp) > _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient(tcp,127.0.0.1,0) > _X11TransSocketSelectFamily(tcp) > _X11TransSocketOpen(1,1) > _X11TransConnect(3,tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransParseAddress(tcp/127.0.0.1:0) > _X11TransSocketINETConnect(3,127.0.0.1,0) > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: inet_addr(127.0.0.1) = 100007f > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: sockname.sin_port = 6000 > _X11TransSocketINETGetAddr(14ad7108) > _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr(14ad7108) > _X11TransGetPeerAddr(3) > _X11TransConvertAddress(2,16,14ad7198) > _X11TransSetOption(3,2,1) > _X11TransSocketWritev(3,26bf99c,1) > _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) > _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa54,8) > _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa54,8) > _X11TransSocketRead(3,14ad7840,256) > _X11TransSocketWrite(3,14ad3428,64) > _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa6c,32) > _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa6c,32) > _X11TransSocketRead(3,26bfa6c,32) > _X11TransSocketWrite(3,14ad3428,4) > ... > === End debug listing === > > The messages go on and on from there. As you can see, the next > message > after the "_X11TransSetOption(3,1,1)" is a call to > _X11TransSocketRead(). > This read takes place about 15 lines down in XOpenDisplay() from where > _X11SendClientPrefix() returns. There isn't much there between the > _X11TransSetOption(3,1,1) and the call to _X11TransSocketRead(). The > only > thing that looked suspicious to me is the LockDisplay() call. I > traced > through it and couldn't find anything else that would cause it to > abort due > to a network problem. Therefore, by process of elimination, I think > it must > be the attempt to set TRANS_NONBLOCKING on the socket. It is difficult to say what Aventail might be doing here. Without Aventail these calls works and Xterm displays.... I have no idea where Aventail makes it fail.... > > My next plan of attack is to write a small test program or two to test > the > the use of that flag. Also, I want to trace through the Cygwin code > for > fcntl() and/or ioctl(), whichever one is being used in this case, and > find > out how Cygwin translates that to a WinSock call. On this topic Cgwin experts like Chris Faylor and Rob might shed some light. Or better ask at Cygwin mailing at cygwin@cygwin.com. > > I am confident that this will lead us closer to either a bug report to > give > to Aventail or a fix (or at least something to discuss) in Cygwin and > XFree86. We did not change any X protocols. Cygwin underlying layer provides SOCK, therefore most likely something can be fixed there. Thanks Suhaib > > Chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 17:29:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:29:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D8A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > No clipboard pasting... the normal left mouse cut right mouse paste > function (or > both mouse button) > Nothing works... > It works over here. I can cut and paste between two xterm windows. I am using Microsoft Intellimouse, the middle wheel works as a third mouse button which lets me paste between Xterms. If you are using a two button mouse are you using -emulate3buttons [timeout] command-line option? Suhaib PS: Please keep your replies to the list. Thanks you. > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > cut and paste between X should work like on your Linux box.... that > is > > highlight then press both mouse button to paste... does it not work > for you? > > If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that one is not > available yet. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an > > > answer yet... > > > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) > > > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > > > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is working fine with > > > "native" Linux. > > > This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin (without > cut > > > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > > > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 machine. > That > > > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when trying to open some > > > X-Programms on it. > > > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever seen on the > > > net, but... > > > no mouse is running tough... > > > Any help outside????? > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------ > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 17:38:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:38:00 -0000 Subject: error in tar -xf xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D8B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> The mailing list is slow. I picked up this from mail archive. Could you guys move up to the latest Cygwin, which is Cygwin 1.3.2. Cygwin 1.1.8 is officially not supported with Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0. Also since Chris is runing tight on disk space, I am going to delete XFree86 4.0.3. I noticed some users are doing a mix and match. Are you trying to untar on a previous version of XFree86 which may have read-only permissions? Suhaib ---------------------- Hi All, I'm get an error tying to tar a necessary tar file called xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar. Is there a package that I need to install first. I am using Win2000 with Cygwin 1.1.8 tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/lbxproxy: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/proxymngr: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rstart: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/twm: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xsm: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Thanks, From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 18 17:43:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:43:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D8C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> One thing, the XEmacs is not an X application. XEmacs is a misleading name. Attampts to display it on X-server won't work. It does not need an X-server ;-) Suhaib From cgf@redhat.com Mon Jun 18 18:50:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:50:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <3B2E519B.3E1F25A2@sprint.ca> Message-ID: <20010618215124.C19520@redhat.com> On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:08:11PM -0400, robert cristel wrote: >I have the latest Cygwin and X, windows 98 2ed and it's a _no_ go also. >Yes, Raymond Kwong, directX is installed. (Most Windows machines will >have directX. The only exceptions I can think of is the Windows >machines of the Cygwin developers!) And how could you possibly know that?! cgf From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 18 20:13:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:13:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D87@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010618231834.A25189@thor.control.toronto.edu> Unfortunately, using "-engine 1" didn't start the X server either. I guess I don't really know where to look to pinpoint the problem. If anyone can suggest which files on the 2 win95 systems (the one that works and the one that doesn't) I should compare, I'll give it another try. It sure makes one appreciate Linux, doesn't it! Raymond On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 08:02:12PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > On the Windows 95a machines with DirectX 4, installed you can try using GDI > blitter. That is -engine 1, instead of 4. Edit startxwin.bat or your > startx script and replace -engine 4 by engine 1. If DirectX 4 is causing > problems, you may see a GDI display. > > Let us know > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:30 PM > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > I installed the same set of files on the 3rd win95 machine to re- > > assure > > myself that the installation does work. The only thing I have noticed > > so > > far is that the working win95 machine did not have directX installed, > > whereas one of the non-working win95 machines has directX version 4 > > installed. Could that have caused a problem? > > > > Raymond > > > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:28 AM > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > > > > I installed cygwin and xfree86 4.0.3 on a 3rd win95 machine. Lo and > > > behold, this one worked! The other two still didn't. I haven't > > figured > > > out what is the difference between these machines. I suppose > > > windows is > > > so obscure that such detective work may be painstaking and > > > time-consuming. Have you heard from anyone else who had the symptoms > > I > > > have, i.e. waiting for X server to accept connections? I think that > > is > > > the key to the mystery. Do you have any further insights? > > > > > > Why do not you try Xfree86 4.1.0? No I do not have any insight, > > except that > > your windows TCP/IP might be messed up on those two machines. Hard to > > say > > anything. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > On 15 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 AM > > > >> To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > >> Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> X server did not start with testx. I have tried both cygwin > > > >> 1.1.8-2 and > > > >> 1.3.1-1 without success. The only thing I have not tried is > > > >> the newest cygwin > > > >> and the newest xfree86. Have other people reported success > > > >> with win95a? > > > > > > > > Yes, you can check mail archive. > > > > Can you try Cygwin 1.3.2 and XFree86 4.1.0? > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Raymond > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > >> > Please put the attached "testx" file in /usr/X11R6/bin, > > > >> then open a Cygwin > > > >> > bash shell. > > > >> > > > > >> > Cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > >> > > > > >> > Chmod 755 testx > > > >> > ./testx > > > >> > > > > >> > PS: Change vtwm & to twm& if you do not have vtwm installed. > > > >> > Remove or rename your .xinitrc and .xserverrc files. > > > >> > > > > >> > Let me know if server starts or not. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:16 PM > > > >> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > >> > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't > > > >> work. Should I > > > >> > > try others? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Raymond > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin is that the > > > >> > > > title of the > > > >> > > > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the > > > >> window changes to > > > >> > > > an X server window! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > My .xinitrc is standard: > > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > > >> > > > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > >> > > > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > > > >> > > > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > > > >> > > > twm > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > > >> > > > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel > > 0 > > > >> > > > -engine 4 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if > > > it works. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Suhaib > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the > > > >> same results. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks for your fast response. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Raymond > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > > > >> > > > >> Everything works except > > > >> > > > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin > > > window comes > > > >> > > > >> up but does not > > > >> > > > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm > > > then come up, > > > >> > > > >> stay for a while > > > >> > > > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank and does not > > > >> > > > >> exit. I need to kill > > > >> > > > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > We need more info. > > > >> > > > > post your startxwin.bat > > > >> > > > > what are the messages displayed in DOS window when you > > use > > > >> > > > startxwin.bat? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. > > > I created > > > >> > > > >> .xinitrc and > > > >> > > > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash window changes > > to > > > >> > > > >> XWin, > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to xwin??? Can you > > > >> > > > explain what > > > >> > > > > do you mean, a bash window can never change to xwin or > > > >> > > > x-server window, > > > >> > > > > whatever. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Suhaib > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> and after > > > >> > > > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying > > > "waiting for > > > >> > > > >> X server to > > > >> > > > >> begin accepting connections" followed by > > > periods. If I kill > > > >> > > > >> it by Ctrl-C, > > > >> > > > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no such file or > > > >> > > > >> directory (errno 2): > > > >> > > > >> unexpected signal 2". > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but I am under > > the > > > >> > > > >> impression that > > > >> > > > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > > > >> > > > >> interesting to observe > > > >> > > > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does xvnc), but it > > is > > > >> > > > >> excruciatingly > > > >> > > > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Thanks! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Raymond Kwong > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 18 20:42:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:42:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <20010618231834.A25189@thor.control.toronto.edu> Message-ID: Raymond, I need to see the output that XWin.exe generates upon an attempted startup. Thanks, Harold From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 18 20:57:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:57:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <20010618231834.A25189@thor.control.toronto.edu> Message-ID: <20010619000236.A25293@thor.control.toronto.edu> Harold: There is nothing. A window with the XWin title comes out with a blank black screen and just sits there. When I close it manually, the message says "Windows cannot shut down the program automatically, blah blah blah...". As I said, it seems that the X server starts partially, but would not accept connections. If I run startx from the bash prompt, I get the message "Waiting for the X server to begin accepting connections" followed by many periods. Is there a way to get XWin to reveal its secrets? Raymond On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:42:06PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > Raymond, > > I need to see the output that XWin.exe generates upon an attempted startup. > > Thanks, > > Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 18 21:07:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:07:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <20010619000236.A25293@thor.control.toronto.edu> Message-ID: Raymond, Do this: 1) Open an MS-DOS Prompt 2) cd %CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin, where %CYGWIN_ROOT% is your Cygwin installation root, e.g. c:\cygwin 3) Run 'XWin', not startxwin.bat, with no parameters 4) Send in the messages that appear in the MS-DOS Prompt window If you see absolutely no output, following the above steps, let us know. Otherwise, send in the output. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:03 AM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > Harold: > > There is nothing. A window with the XWin title comes out with a > blank black > screen and just sits there. When I close it manually, the message says > "Windows cannot shut down the program automatically, blah blah > blah...". As I > said, it seems that the X server starts partially, but would not accept > connections. If I run startx from the bash prompt, I get the message > "Waiting for the X server to begin accepting connections" followed by many > periods. Is there a way to get XWin to reveal its secrets? > > Raymond > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:42:06PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > Raymond, > > > > I need to see the output that XWin.exe generates upon an > attempted startup. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 18 21:27:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:27:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <20010619000236.A25293@thor.control.toronto.edu> Message-ID: <20010619003319.B25293@thor.control.toronto.edu> Harold: I followed your steps. There is absolutely no output: the cursor just sits there blinking. Again I have to shut it down manually. In case you missed it earlier, the DXWin32 and the Xvnc servers both start, although they are excruciatingly slow. I hope this "lack of information" is useful to you! Raymond On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:06:29AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > Raymond, > > Do this: > 1) Open an MS-DOS Prompt > 2) cd %CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin, where %CYGWIN_ROOT% is your Cygwin > installation root, e.g. c:\cygwin > 3) Run 'XWin', not startxwin.bat, with no parameters > 4) Send in the messages that appear in the MS-DOS Prompt window > > If you see absolutely no output, following the above steps, let us know. > Otherwise, send in the output. > > Thanks, > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:03 AM > > To: Harold Hunt > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > Harold: > > > > There is nothing. A window with the XWin title comes out with a > > blank black > > screen and just sits there. When I close it manually, the message says > > "Windows cannot shut down the program automatically, blah blah > > blah...". As I > > said, it seems that the X server starts partially, but would not accept > > connections. If I run startx from the bash prompt, I get the message > > "Waiting for the X server to begin accepting connections" followed by many > > periods. Is there a way to get XWin to reveal its secrets? > > > > Raymond > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:42:06PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Raymond, > > > > > > I need to see the output that XWin.exe generates upon an > > attempted startup. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 18 21:48:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:48:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <20010619003319.B25293@thor.control.toronto.edu> Message-ID: Raymond, Have you done a file search for cygwin1.dll on your system? How many copies did you come up with? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:33 AM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > Harold: > > I followed your steps. There is absolutely no output: the cursor just sits > there blinking. Again I have to shut it down manually. > > In case you missed it earlier, the DXWin32 and the Xvnc servers > both start, > although they are excruciatingly slow. I hope this "lack of > information" is > useful to you! > > Raymond > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:06:29AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > Raymond, > > > > Do this: > > 1) Open an MS-DOS Prompt > > 2) cd %CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin, where %CYGWIN_ROOT% is your Cygwin > > installation root, e.g. c:\cygwin > > 3) Run 'XWin', not startxwin.bat, with no parameters > > 4) Send in the messages that appear in the MS-DOS Prompt window > > > > If you see absolutely no output, following the above steps, let us know. > > Otherwise, send in the output. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:03 AM > > > To: Harold Hunt > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > > > > Harold: > > > > > > There is nothing. A window with the XWin title comes out with a > > > blank black > > > screen and just sits there. When I close it manually, the message says > > > "Windows cannot shut down the program automatically, blah blah > > > blah...". As I > > > said, it seems that the X server starts partially, but would > not accept > > > connections. If I run startx from the bash prompt, I get the message > > > "Waiting for the X server to begin accepting connections" > followed by many > > > periods. Is there a way to get XWin to reveal its secrets? > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:42:06PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > > Raymond, > > > > > > > > I need to see the output that XWin.exe generates upon an > > > attempted startup. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Harold From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 18 22:53:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:53:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <20010619003319.B25293@thor.control.toronto.edu> Message-ID: <20010619015831.A25361@thor.control.toronto.edu> Harold: I thought of that too. There was initially another copy, which I deleted. There is definitely only one copy now. I checked through the registry also. Raymond On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:47:47AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > Raymond, > > Have you done a file search for cygwin1.dll on your system? How many copies > did you come up with? > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:33 AM > > To: Harold Hunt > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > Harold: > > > > I followed your steps. There is absolutely no output: the cursor just sits > > there blinking. Again I have to shut it down manually. > > > > In case you missed it earlier, the DXWin32 and the Xvnc servers > > both start, > > although they are excruciatingly slow. I hope this "lack of > > information" is > > useful to you! > > > > Raymond > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:06:29AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Raymond, > > > > > > Do this: > > > 1) Open an MS-DOS Prompt > > > 2) cd %CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin, where %CYGWIN_ROOT% is your Cygwin > > > installation root, e.g. c:\cygwin > > > 3) Run 'XWin', not startxwin.bat, with no parameters > > > 4) Send in the messages that appear in the MS-DOS Prompt window > > > > > > If you see absolutely no output, following the above steps, let us know. > > > Otherwise, send in the output. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:03 AM > > > > To: Harold Hunt > > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold: > > > > > > > > There is nothing. A window with the XWin title comes out with a > > > > blank black > > > > screen and just sits there. When I close it manually, the message says > > > > "Windows cannot shut down the program automatically, blah blah > > > > blah...". As I > > > > said, it seems that the X server starts partially, but would > > not accept > > > > connections. If I run startx from the bash prompt, I get the message > > > > "Waiting for the X server to begin accepting connections" > > followed by many > > > > periods. Is there a way to get XWin to reveal its secrets? > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:42:06PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > > > Raymond, > > > > > > > > > > I need to see the output that XWin.exe generates upon an > > > > attempted startup. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Harold From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Tue Jun 19 00:13:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:13:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D8A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B2EFB98.C77E051D@team.owl-online.de> I am using a Logitech MouseMan Wheel, the middle wheel is not working for me under cygwin ;-( That????s really horrible, because everything else is working so fine... KDE, all X-Programms and the speed is really ok. That could be the best way ever to work with Linux and Windows on one PC... but not for me ;-( Please try to help Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > No clipboard pasting... the normal left mouse cut right mouse paste > > function (or > > both mouse button) > > Nothing works... > > > > It works over here. I can cut and paste between two xterm windows. I am > using Microsoft Intellimouse, the middle wheel works as a third mouse button > which lets me paste between Xterms. > > If you are using a two button mouse are you using -emulate3buttons [timeout] > command-line option? > > Suhaib > > PS: Please keep your replies to the list. Thanks you. > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > cut and paste between X should work like on your Linux box.... that > > is > > > highlight then press both mouse button to paste... does it not work > > for you? > > > If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that one is not > > available yet. > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an > > > > answer yet... > > > > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) > > > > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > > > > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is working fine with > > > > "native" Linux. > > > > This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin (without > > cut > > > > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > > > > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 machine. > > That > > > > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when trying to open some > > > > X-Programms on it. > > > > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever seen on the > > > > net, but... > > > > no mouse is running tough... > > > > Any help outside????? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------ > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > Systemtechnik > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > http://team.owl-online.de -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com Tue Jun 19 02:58:00 2001 From: Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com (Luc Ferran) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 02:58:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! Message-ID: <3B2F224B.F867F04A@gemplus.com> Hi Suhaib, You said : One thing, the XEmacs is not an X application. XEmacs is a misleading name. Attampts to display it on X-server won't work. It does not need an X-server ;-) ------ I've compiled Xemacs a first time under cygwin without Xfree. Xemacs start then under the NTR window manager as you say. Then, I've recompiled Xemacs under cygwin with Xfree (4.0.3 for instance). With this build, If I launch xemacs from NT, it use NT wibndows manager. But If I launch it under Xfree cygwin, it is an X application (useful for cut and paste between windows...). But with Xfree 4.1.0 this build when Xemacs starts, it crash Xfree. I've installed cygwin 1.3.2 and Xfree 4.1.0 from scratch and I've tried to recompile Xemacs. And during ./configure I've got the following message : .... checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for connect... yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... no checking for shmat in -lipc... no checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for X defines extracted by xmkmf checking for X11/Intrinsic.h... no configure: error: Unable to find X11 header files. I've checked, /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Intrinsic.h exist! I didn't have this probl????me with cygwin 1.1.8 and Xfree 4.0.3 that's why I thing there is a trouble somwhere... Luc From goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr Tue Jun 19 03:27:00 2001 From: goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:27:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree don't work under NT4 Message-ID: <200106191025.MAA21890@bsf.alcatel.fr> Hi, when I start Xfree I have this following message under Nt althougth in Windows 98 it works fine. PexExtensionInit:couldn't open defaut PEX Font File Roman-M error opening security policy file /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/xserver/securityPolicy Could not open defaut font fixed. Thank you From goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr Tue Jun 19 03:30:00 2001 From: goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:30:00 -0000 Subject: Re security policy Message-ID: <200106191028.MAA22737@bsf.alcatel.fr> Hi i'am under NT4, how to get rid of error opening security policy file /usr/x11r6/lib/X11/xserver/securitypolicy. Thank you From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 03:53:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:53:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D8E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I believe the TCP/IP on your 2 windows95 machines is messed up. Can you run Windows95 Setup on it to repare Networking? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:19 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: huntharo@msu.edu; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > Unfortunately, using "-engine 1" didn't start the X server > either. I guess I > don't really know where to look to pinpoint the problem. If > anyone can suggest > which files on the 2 win95 systems (the one that works and > the one that > doesn't) I should compare, I'll give it another try. It sure > makes one > appreciate Linux, doesn't it! > > Raymond > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 08:02:12PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > On the Windows 95a machines with DirectX 4, installed you > can try using GDI > > blitter. That is -engine 1, instead of 4. Edit > startxwin.bat or your > > startx script and replace -engine 4 by engine 1. If DirectX > 4 is causing > > problems, you may see a GDI display. > > > > Let us know > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:30 PM > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > I installed the same set of files on the 3rd win95 machine to re- > > > assure > > > myself that the installation does work. The only thing I > have noticed > > > so > > > far is that the working win95 machine did not have > directX installed, > > > whereas one of the non-working win95 machines has directX > version 4 > > > installed. Could that have caused a problem? > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:28 AM > > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed cygwin and xfree86 4.0.3 on a 3rd win95 > machine. Lo and > > > > behold, this one worked! The other two still didn't. I haven't > > > figured > > > > out what is the difference between these machines. I suppose > > > > windows is > > > > so obscure that such detective work may be painstaking and > > > > time-consuming. Have you heard from anyone else who had > the symptoms > > > I > > > > have, i.e. waiting for X server to accept connections? > I think that > > > is > > > > the key to the mystery. Do you have any further insights? > > > > > > > > > Why do not you try Xfree86 4.1.0? No I do not have any insight, > > > except that > > > your windows TCP/IP might be messed up on those two > machines. Hard to > > > say > > > anything. > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > > On 15 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > > >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 AM > > > > >> To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > >> Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> X server did not start with testx. I have tried both cygwin > > > > >> 1.1.8-2 and > > > > >> 1.3.1-1 without success. The only thing I have not tried is > > > > >> the newest cygwin > > > > >> and the newest xfree86. Have other people reported success > > > > >> with win95a? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you can check mail archive. > > > > > Can you try Cygwin 1.3.2 and XFree86 4.1.0? > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Raymond > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Suhaib > Siddiqi wrote: > > > > >> > Please put the attached "testx" file in /usr/X11R6/bin, > > > > >> then open a Cygwin > > > > >> > bash shell. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Chmod 755 testx > > > > >> > ./testx > > > > >> > > > > > >> > PS: Change vtwm & to twm& if you do not have vtwm > installed. > > > > >> > Remove or rename your .xinitrc and .xserverrc files. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Let me know if server starts or not. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:16 PM > > > > >> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't > > > > >> work. Should I > > > > >> > > try others? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Raymond > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin > is that the > > > > >> > > > title of the > > > > >> > > > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the > > > > >> window changes to > > > > >> > > > an X server window! > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > My .xinitrc is standard: > > > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > >> > > > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > > >> > > > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > > > > >> > > > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > > > > >> > > > twm > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > > > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > >> > > > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel > 255 -blackpixel > > > 0 > > > > >> > > > -engine 4 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if > > > > it works. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Suhaib > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the > > > > >> same results. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks for your fast response. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Raymond > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > > > > >> > > > >> Everything works except > > > > >> > > > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin > > > > window comes > > > > >> > > > >> up but does not > > > > >> > > > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm > > > > then come up, > > > > >> > > > >> stay for a while > > > > >> > > > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank > and does not > > > > >> > > > >> exit. I need to kill > > > > >> > > > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > We need more info. > > > > >> > > > > post your startxwin.bat > > > > >> > > > > what are the messages displayed in DOS > window when you > > > use > > > > >> > > > startxwin.bat? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. > > > > I created > > > > >> > > > >> .xinitrc and > > > > >> > > > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash > window changes > > > to > > > > >> > > > >> XWin, > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to > xwin??? Can you > > > > >> > > > explain what > > > > >> > > > > do you mean, a bash window can never change > to xwin or > > > > >> > > > x-server window, > > > > >> > > > > whatever. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Suhaib > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> and after > > > > >> > > > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying > > > > "waiting for > > > > >> > > > >> X server to > > > > >> > > > >> begin accepting connections" followed by > > > > periods. If I kill > > > > >> > > > >> it by Ctrl-C, > > > > >> > > > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no > such file or > > > > >> > > > >> directory (errno 2): > > > > >> > > > >> unexpected signal 2". > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but > I am under > > > the > > > > >> > > > >> impression that > > > > >> > > > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > > > > >> > > > >> interesting to observe > > > > >> > > > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does > xvnc), but it > > > is > > > > >> > > > >> excruciatingly > > > > >> > > > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Thanks! > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Raymond Kwong > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 04:04:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D91@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Harold: > > There is nothing. A window with the XWin title comes out with > a blank black > screen and just sits there. When I close it manually, the > message says > "Windows cannot shut down the program automatically, blah > blah blah...". Ummmmmmmmm.... that sounds very familiar from 1995 when Windows95 was released. YOUR WIDNOWS IS MESSED UP. YOU NEED TO REINSTALL IT. Microsoft should start providing a dialogue box when Windows messed, a dialogue box pops-up and should say, 'PLEASE FORMAT YOUR DISK AND REINSTALL WINDOWS BECAUSE I AM ALL MESSED UP." :-) Suhaib > As I > said, it seems that the X server starts partially, but would > not accept > connections. If I run startx from the bash prompt, I get the message > "Waiting for the X server to begin accepting connections" > followed by many > periods. Is there a way to get XWin to reveal its secrets? > > Raymond > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:42:06PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > Raymond, > > > > I need to see the output that XWin.exe generates upon an > attempted startup. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 04:06:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:06:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D92@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Unfortunately, using "-engine 1" didn't start the X server > either. I guess I > don't really know where to look to pinpoint the problem. If > anyone can suggest > which files on the 2 win95 systems (the one that works and > the one that > doesn't) I should compare, I'll give it another try. It sure > makes one > appreciate Linux, doesn't it! Yes it sure appreciate Linux ;-) I am afraid your Windows is messed. Can you not from Control Panel uninstall Networking and reinstall it? Perhaps that will help. Suhaib > > Raymond > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 08:02:12PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > On the Windows 95a machines with DirectX 4, installed you > can try using GDI > > blitter. That is -engine 1, instead of 4. Edit > startxwin.bat or your > > startx script and replace -engine 4 by engine 1. If DirectX > 4 is causing > > problems, you may see a GDI display. > > > > Let us know > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:30 PM > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > I installed the same set of files on the 3rd win95 machine to re- > > > assure > > > myself that the installation does work. The only thing I > have noticed > > > so > > > far is that the working win95 machine did not have > directX installed, > > > whereas one of the non-working win95 machines has directX > version 4 > > > installed. Could that have caused a problem? > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:28 AM > > > > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com > > > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed cygwin and xfree86 4.0.3 on a 3rd win95 > machine. Lo and > > > > behold, this one worked! The other two still didn't. I haven't > > > figured > > > > out what is the difference between these machines. I suppose > > > > windows is > > > > so obscure that such detective work may be painstaking and > > > > time-consuming. Have you heard from anyone else who had > the symptoms > > > I > > > > have, i.e. waiting for X server to accept connections? > I think that > > > is > > > > the key to the mystery. Do you have any further insights? > > > > > > > > > Why do not you try Xfree86 4.1.0? No I do not have any insight, > > > except that > > > your windows TCP/IP might be messed up on those two > machines. Hard to > > > say > > > anything. > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > > On 15 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > > >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 AM > > > > >> To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > >> Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> X server did not start with testx. I have tried both cygwin > > > > >> 1.1.8-2 and > > > > >> 1.3.1-1 without success. The only thing I have not tried is > > > > >> the newest cygwin > > > > >> and the newest xfree86. Have other people reported success > > > > >> with win95a? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you can check mail archive. > > > > > Can you try Cygwin 1.3.2 and XFree86 4.1.0? > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Raymond > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Suhaib > Siddiqi wrote: > > > > >> > Please put the attached "testx" file in /usr/X11R6/bin, > > > > >> then open a Cygwin > > > > >> > bash shell. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Chmod 755 testx > > > > >> > ./testx > > > > >> > > > > > >> > PS: Change vtwm & to twm& if you do not have vtwm > installed. > > > > >> > Remove or rename your .xinitrc and .xserverrc files. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Let me know if server starts or not. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:16 PM > > > > >> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I didn't try them all, but I tried 640x480, and it didn't > > > > >> work. Should I > > > > >> > > try others? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Raymond > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > What I mean by the bash prompt chaning to XWin > is that the > > > > >> > > > title of the > > > > >> > > > prompt window changes to XWin. I don't mean that the > > > > >> window changes to > > > > >> > > > an X server window! > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > My .xinitrc is standard: > > > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > >> > > > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > > >> > > > export PATH=.:$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > > > > >> > > > xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & > > > > >> > > > twm > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > My .xserverrc is also standard: > > > > >> > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > >> > > > exec XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -whitepixel > 255 -blackpixel > > > 0 > > > > >> > > > -engine 4 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Did you try at lower resolution e.g. 600x800 to see if > > > > it works. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Suhaib > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > I have tried options such as -fullscreen, -ac, with the > > > > >> same results. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > The same setup on my windows 2000 thinkpad works fine. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks for your fast response. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Raymond > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > On 14 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> I recently installed cygwin and cygwin-xfree 4.0.3. > > > > >> > > > >> Everything works except > > > > >> > > > >> for the X server. If I run startxwin.bat, XWin > > > > window comes > > > > >> > > > >> up but does not > > > > >> > > > >> change into the X root window. Xterm and vtwm > > > > then come up, > > > > >> > > > >> stay for a while > > > > >> > > > >> and exit. XWin window stays black and blank > and does not > > > > >> > > > >> exit. I need to kill > > > > >> > > > >> it manually. There are no error messages for XWin. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > We need more info. > > > > >> > > > > post your startxwin.bat > > > > >> > > > > what are the messages displayed in DOS > window when you > > > use > > > > >> > > > startxwin.bat? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> I also tried running startx from the bash prompt. > > > > I created > > > > >> > > > >> .xinitrc and > > > > >> > > > >> .xserverrc. When I run startx, the bash > window changes > > > to > > > > >> > > > >> XWin, > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Never heard of a bash window chnaging to > xwin??? Can you > > > > >> > > > explain what > > > > >> > > > > do you mean, a bash window can never change > to xwin or > > > > >> > > > x-server window, > > > > >> > > > > whatever. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Suhaib > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> and after > > > > >> > > > >> a little while, an error message comes up saying > > > > "waiting for > > > > >> > > > >> X server to > > > > >> > > > >> begin accepting connections" followed by > > > > periods. If I kill > > > > >> > > > >> it by Ctrl-C, > > > > >> > > > >> an error message comes up saying "xinit, no > such file or > > > > >> > > > >> directory (errno 2): > > > > >> > > > >> unexpected signal 2". > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> I am still running the ancient win95a, but > I am under > > > the > > > > >> > > > >> impression that > > > > >> > > > >> the X server works for all versions of win9x. It is > > > > >> > > > >> interesting to observe > > > > >> > > > >> that the win32-x11 server works (as does > xvnc), but it > > > is > > > > >> > > > >> excruciatingly > > > > >> > > > >> slow. Can anyone point out where the problem lies? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Thanks! > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Raymond Kwong > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 19 05:55:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:55:00 -0000 Subject: error in tar -xf xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar Message-ID: Suhaib, > Also since Chris is runing tight on disk space, I am going to delete XFree86 > 4.0.3. I noticed some users are doing a mix and match. Deleting 4.0.3 means that I'll have to update the User's Guide, which I've been dreading because of the non-uniform capitalization and naming of the project binaries and due to the font archives being split apart. For example: xfree86-4.1.0-XClients.tar.bz2 XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.1.0.tar.bz2 XFree86-ISO8859-7-1-fonts.tar.bz2 In the above files there is sometimes a version number, sometimes not; XFree86 binaries never have version numbers, as they are in a directory that has the version number. XFree86 is sometimes capitalized, sometimes not; XFree86 binaries don't have "XFree86" in the name. Also, I believe I'll have to include a 'mkfontdir' step in the installation instructions if I tell users to only download the fonts that they need. Have you thought about using the install/packaging script that the other XFree86 distributions use? I asked Torrey Lyons, of X on X fame, about where to start with using the script. He had this to say: > The packaging script, build-bindist, and data files for each platform > are in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/bindist. You would have to > create a directory for Cygwin and modify the Xinstall.sh script in > xfree86/etc. Directions for how build-bindist is used can be found by > checking out the devel module from CVS and reading the bindist-notes > file. I was going to look into the packaging script, but I'm pretty busy. Perhaps it would save you some work... An added side benefit of using the packaging script is that Cygwin/XFree86 would finally be ready to become a standard distribution of XFree86, via the XFree86 mirror network, in addition to the Cygwin mirror network. Are you interested in looking into the packaging script, or should I keep it on my to-do list? Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 06:03:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:03:00 -0000 Subject: error in tar -xf xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D95@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I have not deleted anything yet. Actually I was going to do last night but forgot. Sourceware is low on diskspace, and the other reason, was some users are doing mix and mismatch. Howabout your give me a naming convention for archives and I will follow that in future. This should make your User Guide easier. Yes, I have thought using a script, I will work on it. This weekend I am out of town, but next weekend. Suhaib > > Also since Chris is runing tight on disk space, I am going to delete > XFree86 > > 4.0.3. I noticed some users are doing a mix and match. > > Deleting 4.0.3 means that I'll have to update the User's > Guide, which I've > been dreading because of the non-uniform capitalization and > naming of the > project binaries and due to the font archives being split apart. For > example: > > xfree86-4.1.0-XClients.tar.bz2 > XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.1.0.tar.bz2 > XFree86-ISO8859-7-1-fonts.tar.bz2 > > In the above files there is sometimes a version number, sometimes not; > XFree86 binaries never have version numbers, as they are in a > directory that > has the version number. XFree86 is sometimes capitalized, > sometimes not; > XFree86 binaries don't have "XFree86" in the name. > > Also, I believe I'll have to include a 'mkfontdir' step in > the installation > instructions if I tell users to only download the fonts that > they need. > > Have you thought about using the install/packaging script > that the other > XFree86 distributions use? I asked Torrey Lyons, of X on X > fame, about > where to start with using the script. He had this to say: > > > The packaging script, build-bindist, and data files for > each platform > > are in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/bindist. You would have to > > create a directory for Cygwin and modify the Xinstall.sh script in > > xfree86/etc. Directions for how build-bindist is used can > be found by > > checking out the devel module from CVS and reading the bindist-notes > > file. > > I was going to look into the packaging script, but I'm pretty > busy. Perhaps > it would save you some work... > > An added side benefit of using the packaging script is that > Cygwin/XFree86 > would finally be ready to become a standard distribution of > XFree86, via the > XFree86 mirror network, in addition to the Cygwin mirror network. > > Are you interested in looking into the packaging script, or > should I keep it > on my to-do list? > > Harold > From goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr Tue Jun 19 06:09:00 2001 From: goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:09:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin & winnt Message-ID: <200106191308.PAA09671@bsf.alcatel.fr> Hi, I installed Cygwin/XFree 86 on my Win NT 4 but I have the following error >Couldn't open RGB_DB /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/rgb error opening security policy file /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/fonts/misc removing fom the list could not init font path element /usr/x11r6/lib/x11/fonts/misc ..... could not open default font fixed. Thank you. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 19 06:11:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: error in tar -xf xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D95@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Suhaib, > How about your give me a naming convention for archives and I will follow > that in future. This should make your User Guide easier. A naming convention will probably do fine until we get a packaging script in place. I'll work on coming up with one tonight, as I have to head to class right now. > Yes, I have thought using a script, I will work on it. This weekend I am > out of town, but next weekend. Sounds good. Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 06:11:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: Volunteer for LessTif Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D96@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Users at LessTif mailing list are making a big fuss about binaries of LessTif for Cygwin/XFree86 not being distributed any more. I stopped providing precompiled binaries of LessTif because it compiles out of the box. However, some users still want it and recently users from comp.x.windows news groups started complaining about it on Lesstif mailing lis. Anyone willing to volunteer for it? Beside my full time job responsibilities, it is difficult for me to keep up with 3 open source projects and support Lesstif too, therefore I am looking for a volunteer for Lesstif precompiled binaries. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 06:12:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:12:00 -0000 Subject: error in tar -xf xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D97@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > How about your give me a naming convention for archives and > I will follow > > that in future. This should make your User Guide easier. > > A naming convention will probably do fine until we get a > packaging script in > place. I'll work on coming up with one tonight, as I have to > head to class > right now. Once I get it, I will rename archives in 4.1.0 directory according to your naming convention and delete the 4.0.3. Should that be fine for your User Guide? Suhaib > > > Yes, I have thought using a script, I will work on it. > This weekend I am > > out of town, but next weekend. > > Sounds good. > > Harold > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 19 06:29:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:29:00 -0000 Subject: error in tar -xf xfree86-4.1.0-devel.tar References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D97@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: > Once I get it, I will rename archives in 4.1.0 directory according to your > naming convention and delete the 4.0.3. Should that be fine for your User > Guide? Yup, that sounds fine. Harold From rcristel@sprint.ca Tue Jun 19 06:38:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (robert cristel) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:38:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <3B2F41AA.7EB3F0B4@sprint.ca> > I am afraid your Windows is messed. Can > you not from Control Panel uninstall Networking and reinstall it? Perhaps > that will help. Nope. I have no networking. As Raymond says this appears to be an incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a different code base. -Robert Cristel Montreal, Canada From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 08:04:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:04:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D99@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: robert cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com; Suhaib Siddiqi; 'Raymond Kwong' > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > I am afraid your Windows is messed. Can > > you not from Control Panel uninstall Networking and > reinstall it? Perhaps > > that will help. > > Nope. I have no networking. What do you mean by "no networking" without TCP/IP you cannot use X. >As Raymond says this appears to be an > incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a > different code base. explain???? Which code base???? Suhaib > > -Robert Cristel > Montreal, Canada > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 08:28:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:28:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D9A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include > checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no > checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no > checking for gethostbyname... yes > checking for connect... yes > checking for remove... yes > checking for shmat... no > checking for shmat in -lipc... no > checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes > checking for X defines extracted by xmkmf > checking for X11/Intrinsic.h... no > configure: error: Unable to find X11 header files. > > I've checked, /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Intrinsic.h exist! > > I didn't have this probl????me with cygwin 1.1.8 and Xfree 4.0.3 > that's why > I thing there is a trouble somwhere... If the header is there, it is not a XFree86 issue. > checking for X11/Intrinsic.h... no This does not mean it is not finding Intrinsic.h, you need to check config.log. It can be a link error which fails the test. Suhaib > > Luc > From kwong@control.toronto.edu Tue Jun 19 08:29:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:29:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <200106191534.LAA25920@thor.control.toronto.edu> The only thing I have noticed so far between the working and the non-working win95 systems is that the non-working one has winsock upgraded, to version 2 I believe. Don't know if this is relevant, just another tidbit for you to consider. Thank you, Suhaib and Harold, for all your efforts. Although I have 2 non-working installations, I have 4 working ones, 1 win95a, 1 win98, 2 w2k. I must say they look good. I am going to wipe out win95 on one of the non-working machines and install win98, and then cygwin and X. We'll see what happens. I still have the other non-working machine to try out your new suggestions, including possibly reinstalling networking, if that is felt to be the most likely cause. Raymond From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 08:52:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:52:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree don't work under NT4 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D9B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Which version of XFree86? The latest release does not have PexExtension therefore you should not be seeing a PexExtension error with latest release, i.e. 4.1.0. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: re:Xfree don't work under NT4 > > > Hi, when I start Xfree I have this following message under Nt > althougth in > Windows 98 it works fine. > > PexExtensionInit:couldn't open defaut PEX Font File Roman-M > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/xserver/securityPolicy > > Could not open defaut font fixed. > > Thank you > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 08:55:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:55:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D9C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > The only thing I have noticed so far between the working and the > non-working win95 systems is that the non-working one has winsock > upgraded, to version 2 I believe. Don't know if this is relevant, just > another tidbit for you to consider. > > Thank you, Suhaib and Harold, for all your efforts. Although I have 2 > non-working installations, I have 4 working ones, 1 win95a, 1 win98, 2 > w2k. I must say they look good. > > I am going to wipe out win95 on one of the non-working machines and > install win98, and then cygwin and X. We'll see what happens. I still > have the other non-working machine to try out your new suggestions, > including possibly reinstalling networking, if that is felt to be the > most likely cause. Winsock2 can be problem here. When winsock2 was released as an optional package for Windows95, I remember installing then replacing it with Winsock which shipped with Win95. Because it was giving problems on Windows95. If you uninstall Networking from Control Panel and reinstall it using your Windows95, Winsock2 will be replaced with Winsock from Win95 CD. It might help. Let us know. Suhaib > > Raymond > From Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com Tue Jun 19 09:07:00 2001 From: Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com (Luc Ferran) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:07:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D9A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B2F78C0.775063F2@gemplus.com> > > checking for X11/Intrinsic.h... no > This does not mean it is not finding Intrinsic.h, you need to check > config.log. It can be a link error which fails the test. > I had a look on config.log, it seems to be a little to hard for me and my knowledge arround X11... So here is attachements... If I can help.... Luc From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 09:12:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D9D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Luc Ferran [ mailto:Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:07 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com' > Subject: Re: Xemacs crash Xfree86!!! > > > > > checking for X11/Intrinsic.h... no > > This does not mean it is not finding Intrinsic.h, you need to check > > config.log. It can be a link error which fails the test. > > > > I had a look on config.log, it seems to be a little to hard > for me and my > knowledge arround X11... So here is attachements... > > If I can help.... > > Luc > > Your problem is missing libIPC library. ; return 0; } configure:5350: checking for shmat in -lipc configure:5366: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-switch -Wno-sign-compare -fno-caller-saves -I/usr/X11R6/include conftest.c -lipc -lm -lwinmm 1>&5 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: cannot find -lipc collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure: failed program was: You need to install CygIPC from CygUtils site. Check Cygwin.com under Related sites for link. Suhaib From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Tue Jun 19 09:17:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:17:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree don't work under NT4 Message-ID: You probably used WinZip or something similar to extract the .tar files, like me :-). That's wrong, use tar. Pavel Rybnicek Jorge Goncalvez cc: Sent by: Subject: re:Xfree don't work under NT4 cygwin-xfree-owner@sources. redhat.com 19.06.2001 12:25 Please respond to Jorge Goncalvez Hi, when I start Xfree I have this following message under Nt althougth in Windows 98 it works fine. PexExtensionInit:couldn't open defaut PEX Font File Roman-M error opening security policy file /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/xserver/securityPolicy Could not open defaut font fixed. Thank you From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Tue Jun 19 09:24:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:24:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems Message-ID: Hi all I have following problems: I downloaded Test 32 - it's unable to use 8bit color depth again (I dah no problem with test 30) - the output is: winAllocatePrivates () - g_ulServerGeneration: 0 serverGeneration: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - FullScreen, using command line depth: 8 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Could not create shadow surface 80070057 winFinishScreenInitFB () - Could not allocate framebuffer winScreenInit () - winFinishScreenInit () failed Fatal server error: Couldn't add screen 0 my .bat file contains: start XWin :1 -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 8 -engine 4 -query MyAIXMachine -kb -fp tcp/MyFontServer:MyPort -once -fullscreen -from MyIPAdress I have no problem with Test 30 - it works fine. Another problem - how could I set Czech keyboard? I got the xmapmod.cz file, and the keys layout is fine, but keys with Czech-specific chars produce no response - I guess I have to set ISO-8859-2 locale - but HOW? Thanks Pavel Rybnicek From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 19 10:37:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:37:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <200106191534.LAA25920@thor.control.toronto.edu> Message-ID: Raymond, Well, before reinstalling, you could always go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install all of the available updates and fixes (this will take several reboots, as installing IE 5.5 will reveal new updates, etc.). Reinstalling sounds like a good plan, unless you feel like spending a whole lot of time debugging so that you can tell us exactly what is going on :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:35 AM > To: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com; huntharo@msu.edu > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > The only thing I have noticed so far between the working and the > non-working win95 systems is that the non-working one has winsock > upgraded, to version 2 I believe. Don't know if this is relevant, just > another tidbit for you to consider. > > Thank you, Suhaib and Harold, for all your efforts. Although I have 2 > non-working installations, I have 4 working ones, 1 win95a, 1 win98, 2 > w2k. I must say they look good. > > I am going to wipe out win95 on one of the non-working machines and > install win98, and then cygwin and X. We'll see what happens. I still > have the other non-working machine to try out your new suggestions, > including possibly reinstalling networking, if that is felt to be the > most likely cause. > > Raymond > From roger.wenham@t-online.de Tue Jun 19 10:52:00 2001 From: roger.wenham@t-online.de (Roger Wenham) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:52:00 -0000 Subject: X Server won't start on Wondows ME Message-ID: <00c701c0f8e8$78dca0c0$032ba8c0@wenham.de> Hi, I have been watching the ongoing Win95a thread, and have exactly the same problem on ME. I have tried a few of the things mentioned there and here are the results: The versions of ygwin and xfree were the latest releases I downloaded on the 16/6/01. I have exported DISPLAY=192.168.43.3:0.0 (the machines ip address) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 1) Calling XWin from the command line gives this: roger@LISTER ~ $ XWin _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root Fatal server error: no screens found roger@LISTER ~ No Window appears.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 2) startx gives the following output: roger@LISTER ~ $ startx _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 640 height 480 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. .. .xinit: The descriptor is a file, not a socket (errno 108): unexpected signal 2 waiting for X server to shut down roger@LISTER ~ The message "xinit: The descriptor is a file, not a socket (errno ......" came after I hit ctrl-C. Note a window does appear, but it is dark. The X cursor is also there and I can move it with the mouse. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 3) I have tried engine 1 and engine 4, both react the same. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 4) My .xinitrc looks like this: #!/bin/bash export DISPLAY=192.168.43.3:0.0 export PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & twm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ I am totally out of ideas, can anyone help?? Regards Roger From rcristel@sprint.ca Tue Jun 19 11:59:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (Robert J. Cristel) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:59:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <3B30F249.CF0EFB1E@sprint.ca> > I am afraid your Windows is messed. Can > you not from Control Panel uninstall Networking and reinstall it? Perhaps > that will help. Nope. I have no networking. > What do you mean by "no networking" without TCP/IP you cannot use > X. Just a single machine with dialup. As Raymond says this appears to be an incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a different code base. > explain???? Which code base???? Microsoft internally has two different Windows sources, one is Win9x and the other is WinNT. But this isn't the problem as Raymond has Cygwin/XFree working on both. However, X doesn't work on my Win98 2nd installation. I would be happy to supply you with a message dump if that would be helpful. It would require some sort of setup because X just comes up for a one second and you don't really see anything. -Robert Cristel Montreal, Canada From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 12:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:02:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D9E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> OK now stop talking round about, please..... we asked you a couple of time that sprovide details of your messages... it is a no go and it does not work on my win98 and microsoft has two sources for windows those mails are useless and no can help you here. If you want someone to help you, send detail of your problems Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert J. Cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:58 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com; Suhaib Siddiqi; 'Raymond Kwong' > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > I am afraid your Windows is messed. Can > > you not from Control Panel uninstall Networking and > reinstall it? Perhaps > > that will help. > > Nope. I have no networking. > > What do you mean by "no networking" without TCP/IP you cannot use > > X. > Just a single machine with dialup. > > As Raymond says this appears to be an > incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a > different code base. > > explain???? Which code base???? > > Microsoft internally has two different Windows sources, one > is Win9x and > the other is WinNT. > > But this isn't the problem as Raymond has Cygwin/XFree > working on both. > However, X doesn't work on my Win98 2nd installation. I > would be happy > to supply you with a message dump if that would be helpful. It would > require some sort of setup because X just comes up for a one > second and > you don't really see anything. > > -Robert Cristel > Montreal, Canada > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Jun 19 15:15:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:15:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <3B2F41AA.7EB3F0B4@sprint.ca> Message-ID: <01aa01c0f90d$98c3be30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert cristel" To: ; "Suhaib Siddiqi" ; "'Raymond Kwong'" Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:12 PM Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > I am afraid your Windows is messed. Can > > you not from Control Panel uninstall Networking and reinstall it? Perhaps > > that will help. > > Nope. I have no networking. As Raymond says this appears to be an > incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a > different code base. "I have no networking". That is your problem. X _requires_ local tcp communication. Install TCP/IP and a loopback adapter and you should be ok. Rob > -Robert Cristel > Montreal, Canada > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 16:44:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:44:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DA7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> First; if you use Xwin without :0 you will get error "couldn't add screen 0. At least you need Xwin :0 >start XWin :1 -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 8 -engine 4 -query MyAIXMachine >-kb -fp tcp/MyFontServer:MyPort -once -fullscreen -from MyIPAdress Why did you insert :1 after XWin?. Are you using binary from Cygwin/XFree86? If so, in that case the commands will be Xwin -screen 0 1289x1024 -depth 8 -engine 4 ........................ How to use European keyboards, you can read at http://www.gotti.org . Suhaib Hi all I have following problems: I downloaded Test 32 - it's unable to use 8bit color depth again (I dah no problem with test 30) - the output is: winAllocatePrivates () - g_ulServerGeneration: 0 serverGeneration: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - FullScreen, using command line depth: 8 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Could not create shadow surface 80070057 winFinishScreenInitFB () - Could not allocate framebuffer winScreenInit () - winFinishScreenInit () failed Fatal server error: Couldn't add screen 0 my .bat file contains: start XWin :1 -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 8 -engine 4 -query MyAIXMachine -kb -fp tcp/MyFontServer:MyPort -once -fullscreen -from MyIPAdress I have no problem with Test 30 - it works fine. Another problem - how could I set Czech keyboard? I got the xmapmod.cz file, and the keys layout is fine, but keys with Czech-specific chars produce no response - I guess I have to set ISO-8859-2 locale - but HOW? Thanks Pavel Rybnicek From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 16:46:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:46:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin & winnt Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DA8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You need to install fonts, at least misc. You need to install xfree86-4.1.0-devel for RBG file. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:08 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re: cygwin & winnt > > Hi, I installed Cygwin/XFree 86 on my Win NT 4 but I have the > following error > > >Couldn't open RGB_DB /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/rgb > > error opening security policy file /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/fonts/misc > removing fom > the list > > could not init font path element /usr/x11r6/lib/x11/fonts/misc > ..... > > > > could not open default font fixed. > > > Thank you. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 16:49:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:49:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DA9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Have you tried adding -emulate3button as I suggested? I do not have Logitech MouseMan, only Microsoft Intellimouse and Intellisense mouse, wheel works as a third mouse button, if I press it down. Can you try another mouse, instead of a Logitech? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:13 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > I am using a Logitech MouseMan Wheel, the middle wheel is not working > for me > under cygwin ;-( > That????s really horrible, because everything else is working so fine... > KDE, all > X-Programms and the speed is really ok. > That could be the best way ever to work with Linux and Windows on one > PC... but > not for me ;-( > Please try to help > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > No clipboard pasting... the normal left mouse cut right mouse > paste > > > function (or > > > both mouse button) > > > Nothing works... > > > > > > > It works over here. I can cut and paste between two xterm windows. > I am > > using Microsoft Intellimouse, the middle wheel works as a third > mouse button > > which lets me paste between Xterms. > > > > If you are using a two button mouse are you using -emulate3buttons > [timeout] > > command-line option? > > > > Suhaib > > > > PS: Please keep your replies to the list. Thanks you. > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > cut and paste between X should work like on your Linux box.... > that > > > is > > > > highlight then press both mouse button to paste... does it not > work > > > for you? > > > > If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that one is not > > > available yet. > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an > > > > > answer yet... > > > > > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) > > > > > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > > > > > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is working fine > with > > > > > "native" Linux. > > > > > This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin > (without > > > cut > > > > > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > > > > > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 > machine. > > > That > > > > > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when trying to open > some > > > > > X-Programms on it. > > > > > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever seen on the > > > > > net, but... > > > > > no mouse is running tough... > > > > > Any help outside????? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------ > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de From dgun@umpire.com Tue Jun 19 16:54:00 2001 From: dgun@umpire.com (D G) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:54:00 -0000 Subject: [Feature-requests] Real PseudoColor 8-bits Message-ID: <20010619235419.1720.qmail@mail.com> >Hi Harold, > >everything is in the title, but I'm sure you know that feature from me ;-) > >Thanks. I second this, and add a Truecolor 8-bit support request as well. -- -- Daniel ZZZ-dgun-ZZZ-@umpire-ZZZ-.com (remove the Z-'s to reply--they're what I do when I read spam) _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Make PC-to-Phone calls with Net2Phone. Sign-up today at: http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?121 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 19 17:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:01:00 -0000 Subject: X Server won't start on Wondows ME Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DAB@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You need to add a :0 after XWIN, if you want to use only XWin command. Which version of XFree86? Which version of Cygwin? Rename your .xinitrc to xinitrc-old. Then create a file startxwin.sh in /usr/X11R6/bin and put the following in it #! /bin/sh export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 eval `ssh-agent` XWin -screen 0 1024x768x16 -engine 1& vtwm & xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 xclock -geometry 80x80+1134+0 & xterm -n xterm-1 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry +361+0 -e bash & exit cd to /usr/X11R6/bin from a Cygwin bash shell then chmod 755 startxwin.sh then startxwin.sh to start X-server. Let us know if it works. Suhaib Hi, I have been watching the ongoing Win95a thread, and have exactly the same problem on ME. I have tried a few of the things mentioned there and here are the results: The versions of cygwin and xfree were the latest releases I downloaded on the 16/6/01. I have exported DISPLAY=192.168.43.3:0.0 (the machines ip address) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 1) Calling XWin from the command line gives this: roger@LISTER ~ $ XWin _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root Fatal server error: no screens found roger@LISTER ~ No Window appears.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 2) startx gives the following output: roger@LISTER ~ $ startx _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 640 height 480 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. .. .xinit: The descriptor is a file, not a socket (errno 108): unexpected signal 2 waiting for X server to shut down roger@LISTER ~ The message "xinit: The descriptor is a file, not a socket (errno ......" came after I hit ctrl-C. Note a window does appear, but it is dark. The X cursor is also there and I can move it with the mouse. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 3) I have tried engine 1 and engine 4, both react the same. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 4) My .xinitrc looks like this: #!/bin/bash export DISPLAY=192.168.43.3:0.0 export PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin xterm -sb -sl 1024 -font 9x15 -e /bin/bash & twm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ I am totally out of ideas, can anyone help?? Regards Roger From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 19 18:29:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:29:00 -0000 Subject: Windows 95, 98, Me - New resolution/depth limitation discovered (remembered, stumbled upon, etc.) Message-ID: I stumbled across a limitation for Cygwin/XFree86 that I had previously forgotten. According to: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/gdi/bitmaps_5d4g.htm , you cannot allocate a Device Independent Bitmap (DIB) larger than 16 MB on Windows 95, 98, and, presumably, Me. DirectDraw uses DIBs interally for DirectDraw Surfaces, so DirectDraw may also have this limitation. I have added a warning message that prints out, for now, on all versions of Windows, if the size of the DIB or DirectDraw Surface will be larger than 16 MB. This patch will be in my next test release, which I hope to post shortly. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 19 20:03:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:03:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 33 Message-ID: I just posted Test 33 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test33.exe.bz2 (1042 KB) Changes: 1) Add warning message if the requested DIB or DirectDraw surface will be larger than 16 MB. There is a 16 MB size limit for DIBs in Windows 95, 98, and, presumably, Me. For more information, see MSDN Library->Platform SDK->Graphics and Multimedia Services->Windows GDI->Bitmaps->Bitmap Reference->Bitmap Functions->CreateDIBitmap, which is available online at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/gdi/bitmaps_5d4g.htm 2) Re-disable UseSmartScheduler, and add a note to xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf that UseSmartScheduler has terrible performance on Cygwin. 3) Add processing for the '-screen' command to handle 'WxH', if it is present. This is in addition to the new 'W H' format. 4) Grab a new ddraw.h header from the Wine project. The new header has several fixes to function parameter types, thus preventing compilation warnings, and a few fixes to some structures that may have been causing DirectDraw Surface creation problems. 5) Add a check for a NULL hardware device context being returned by BeginPaint in the winBltExposedRegions functions. 6) Add error messages and extra sanity checks to winBltExposedRegions functions. 7) Remove the ShadowWindowProc functions, as the Cygwin/XFree86 ShadowUpdateProcs do not need ShadowWindowProcs. Enjoy, Harold From s_a_shaikh@yahoo.com Tue Jun 19 20:25:00 2001 From: s_a_shaikh@yahoo.com (Shamsul A Shaikh) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:25:00 -0000 Subject: X Server won't start on Wondows ME References: <00c701c0f8e8$78dca0c0$032ba8c0@wenham.de> Message-ID: Hi, > I have been watching the ongoing Win95a thread, and have exactly the same > problem on ME. I have tried a few of the things mentioned there > and here are > the results: Just out of curiosity - is your WinME an upgrade or a fresh install. I have had problems when WinME is an upgrade from Win9X > > I have exported DISPLAY=192.168.43.3:0.0 (the machines ip address) Did you try DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0? It shouldn't make a difference but it should be worth a try Shams --- Shamsul Arefin Shaikh, BSc (Hons) in CS, MCSE, MCP, CNA Graduate Student, Department of Computer Science Iowa State University _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Jun 19 21:00:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:00:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert J. Cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > > > > > Robert Collins wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "robert cristel" > > To: ; "Suhaib Siddiqi" > > ; "'Raymond Kwong'" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:12 PM > > Subject: RE: X server won't start in win95a > > > > > > > > > I am afraid your Windows is messed. Can > > > > you not from Control Panel uninstall Networking and > reinstall it? > > Perhaps > > > > that will help. > > > > > > Nope. I have no networking. As Raymond says this > appears to be an > > > incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a > > > different code base. > > > > "I have no networking". That is your problem. X _requires_ local tcp > > communication. Install TCP/IP and a loopback adapter and > you should be > > ok. > > > > I have tcp and dialup networking. I meant this is a single > machine with > no network card. Ah, so you _do_ have networking (just not Ethernet based). Can you try removing and reinstalling that as Suhaib suggested? Rob From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Wed Jun 20 00:27:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:27:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DA9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B305082.115A0E75@team.owl-online.de> Hi, with -emulate3button there comes an errormessage starting the Xserver: unrecognized option. I will try an old Logitech 3 Button mouse this afternoon and inform you Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > Have you tried adding -emulate3button as I suggested? > I do not have Logitech MouseMan, only Microsoft Intellimouse and > Intellisense mouse, wheel works as a third mouse button, if I press it down. > Can you try another mouse, instead of a Logitech? > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:13 AM > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > > > I am using a Logitech MouseMan Wheel, the middle wheel is not working > > for me > > under cygwin ;-( > > That????s really horrible, because everything else is working so fine... > > KDE, all > > X-Programms and the speed is really ok. > > That could be the best way ever to work with Linux and Windows on one > > PC... but > > not for me ;-( > > Please try to help > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > No clipboard pasting... the normal left mouse cut right mouse > > paste > > > > function (or > > > > both mouse button) > > > > Nothing works... > > > > > > > > > > It works over here. I can cut and paste between two xterm windows. > > I am > > > using Microsoft Intellimouse, the middle wheel works as a third > > mouse button > > > which lets me paste between Xterms. > > > > > > If you are using a two button mouse are you using -emulate3buttons > > [timeout] > > > command-line option? > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > PS: Please keep your replies to the list. Thanks you. > > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > > > cut and paste between X should work like on your Linux box.... > > that > > > > is > > > > > highlight then press both mouse button to paste... does it not > > work > > > > for you? > > > > > If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that one is not > > > > available yet. > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > > > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > > > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an > > > > > > answer yet... > > > > > > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) > > > > > > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > > > > > > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is working fine > > with > > > > > > "native" Linux. > > > > > > This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin > > (without > > > > cut > > > > > > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > > > > > > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 > > machine. > > > > That > > > > > > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when trying to open > > some > > > > > > X-Programms on it. > > > > > > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever seen on the > > > > > > net, but... > > > > > > no mouse is running tough... > > > > > > Any help outside????? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------ > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > Systemtechnik > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > http://team.owl-online.de -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr Wed Jun 20 01:54:00 2001 From: goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:54:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree 86/Cygwin & NT Message-ID: <200106200852.KAA05763@bsf.alcatel.fr> Hi, thank you for your help Pavel and Suhaib but my Cygwin/Xfree86 still doesn't work. I use Xfree 4.03 under Winnt.Actually I successfully installed Cygwin/free86 in my Windows 98 SE and I decided to port it to a NT machine. I copied c:\Cygwin and I ran Xfree with the command: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -screen 0 800x600x16 and I have the following Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 794 height 546 winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f bpRGB: 6 winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returning PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from l ist! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' In fact I don't understand why it works fine in 98 SE and not in NT or 2000. I only took the same files in both. Thank you. From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Jun 20 02:43:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:43:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree 86/Cygwin & NT Message-ID: Hi Are you sure you used "tar" ivoked from "bash" to extract files? If yes, I have no idea... I'm running on W2k and I have no problem like this... Pavel Hi, thank you for your help Pavel and Suhaib but my Cygwin/Xfree86 still doesn't work. I use Xfree 4.03 under Winnt.Actually I successfully installed Cygwin/free86 in my Windows 98 SE and I decided to port it to a NT machine. I copied c:\Cygwin and I ran Xfree with the command: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -screen 0 800x600x16 and I have the following Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 794 height 546 winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f bpRGB: 6 winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returning PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from l ist! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' In fact I don't understand why it works fine in 98 SE and not in NT or 2000. I only took the same files in both. Thank you. From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Jun 20 02:55:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:55:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems Message-ID: > First; if you use Xwin without :0 you will get error "couldn't add screen 0. > At least you need Xwin :0 Sorry, I messed messages, for generating this message I used screen 0. >Why did you insert :1 after XWin?. Are you using binary from >Cygwin/XFree86? If so, in that case the commands will be >Xwin -screen 0 1289x1024 -depth 8 -engine 4 ........................ I use two instances of Cygwin simultaneously - one in 8 bit color depth, one in 32 depth. The reason is, I cannot use Visual builder in 32 bits - it needs Pseudocolor. But C++ developing environment has messed colors in 8 bits, so I need 32 (it's also messed, but less). > How to use European keyboards, you can read at http://www.gotti.org . Of course I read FAQ and found that, I have no problem to use xmodmap. But I probably need also change the locale from ISO-8859-1 to ISO-8859-2 to use correct fonts and display Czech characters. Thanks Pavel From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Jun 20 03:02:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:02:00 -0000 Subject: [Feature-requests] Real PseudoColor 8-bits Message-ID: I'm joining, pleeease Pavel From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 03:56:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: Re security policy Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DAD@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> It is not an error, rather a warning, which you can ignore. To avoid seeing it either copy a Securitypolicy file from Linux or from bash shell prompt: touch /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPloicy Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:29 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re security policy > > > Hi > i'am under NT4, how to get rid of error opening security policy file > /usr/x11r6/lib/X11/xserver/securitypolicy. > > Thank you > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 04:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:01:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DAE@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Nope. I have no networking. > > What do you mean by "no networking" without TCP/IP you cannot use > > X. > Just a single machine with dialup. > > As Raymond says this appears to be an > incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a > different code base. > > explain???? Which code base???? There is no such thing of incompability between Windows9x and NT. An application can be designed to run only on Win9x or NT. > > Microsoft internally has two different Windows sources, one > is Win9x and > the other is WinNT. > Oh really. I think Bill Gates keep calling you about this different sources for Windows. Thanks for letting us know. I made a note in my diary and I will do my best to tell the rest of the world. > But this isn't the problem as Raymond has Cygwin/XFree > working on both. Raymond problem is not same as yours. Your problem is we even do not know what is your problem.... > However, X doesn't work on my Win98 2nd installation. I > would be happy > to supply you with a message dump if that would be helpful. It would > require some sort of setup because X just comes up for a one > second and > you don't really see anything. What kind of special setup? Setup like a CIA of FBI setup to trap the terrorists? Suhaib > > -Robert Cristel > Montreal, Canada > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 04:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:02:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DAF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> What version of XFree86 4.1.0? Maybe you already wrote in your previous messages, I forgot. Emulate3buttons works just fine Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:28 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > > Hi, > > with -emulate3button there comes an errormessage starting the Xserver: > unrecognized option. > I will try an old Logitech 3 Button mouse this afternoon and > inform you > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > Have you tried adding -emulate3button as I suggested? > > I do not have Logitech MouseMan, only Microsoft Intellimouse and > > Intellisense mouse, wheel works as a third mouse button, if > I press it down. > > Can you try another mouse, instead of a Logitech? > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:13 AM > > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > I am using a Logitech MouseMan Wheel, the middle wheel is > not working > > > for me > > > under cygwin ;-( > > > That????s really horrible, because everything else is > working so fine... > > > KDE, all > > > X-Programms and the speed is really ok. > > > That could be the best way ever to work with Linux and > Windows on one > > > PC... but > > > not for me ;-( > > > Please try to help > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > > No clipboard pasting... the normal left mouse cut right mouse > > > paste > > > > > function (or > > > > > both mouse button) > > > > > Nothing works... > > > > > > > > > > > > > It works over here. I can cut and paste between two > xterm windows. > > > I am > > > > using Microsoft Intellimouse, the middle wheel works as a third > > > mouse button > > > > which lets me paste between Xterms. > > > > > > > > If you are using a two button mouse are you using > -emulate3buttons > > > [timeout] > > > > command-line option? > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > PS: Please keep your replies to the list. Thanks you. > > > > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > cut and paste between X should work like on your > Linux box.... > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > highlight then press both mouse button to paste... > does it not > > > work > > > > > for you? > > > > > > If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that > one is not > > > > > available yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > > > > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > > > > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an > > > > > > > answer yet... > > > > > > > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) > > > > > > > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > > > > > > > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is > working fine > > > with > > > > > > > "native" Linux. > > > > > > > This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin > > > (without > > > > > cut > > > > > > > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > > > > > > > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 > > > machine. > > > > > That > > > > > > > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when > trying to open > > > some > > > > > > > X-Programms on it. > > > > > > > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever > seen on the > > > > > > > net, but... > > > > > > > no mouse is running tough... > > > > > > > Any help outside????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------ > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 04:05:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:05:00 -0000 Subject: Xemacs Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> How about you ask at Cygwin mailing list/ cygwin@cygwin.com? Chuck over there might help you. He distributes Xemacs, I believe. Xemacs is not covered by Cygwin/XFree86 because it can be compiled without XFree86 and developers at Cygwin mailing list supports it. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Luc Ferran [ mailto:Luc.FERRAN-EXTERNAL@gemplus.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:02 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: Xemacs > > > Hi Suhaib, > > Because I'm curious, I've tried : "./configure --without-x11 " to be > sure that Xfree isn't used and new version of cygwin is able > to support > Xemacs like before. But... > > here is the end output > ... > creating ./config.status > creating Makefile > creating lib-src/Makefile.in > creating src/Makefile.in > creating src/paths.h > creating lib-src/config.values > creating src/config.h > creating lwlib/config.h > creating lib-src/Makefile > In file included from junk.c:42: > ../src/config.h:582: warning: `HAVE_NATIVE_SOUND' redefined > ../src/s/cygwin32.h:187: warning: this is the location of the previous > definition > creating src/Makefile > In file included from junk.c:49: > config.h:582: warning: `HAVE_NATIVE_SOUND' redefined > s/cygwin32.h:187: warning: this is the location of the previous > definition > > If I run make I have a lot of error because of `HAVE_NATIVE_SOUND' > redefined. So, perhaps something changed in cygwin 1.3.2 from > 1.1.8. Do > you think so? Must I expose this problem in cygwin mailing list? > > Luc > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 05:15:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:15:00 -0000 Subject: How to build shared librairie with Cygwin Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I actually find this long thread useless. The complainer knows there is a Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ and knows the URL. There are names of maintainer, and core team members listed on Cygwin/Xfree86 URL. There is a mailing list to complain, yell, or whine, and... above all I prefer users who like to give a hand to an open source project then to whine about minor things. If absense of LessTif precompiled binaries are worrying Michel Bardiaux so much then how about he takes the task of helping LessTif and Cygwin/Xfree86 project to provide precompiled binaries? Suhaib > On Wednesday 20 Jun 01, Michel Bardiaux writes: > > The maintainer of the "Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ" is not named in > it. Could you > > send me his Email address, or ping him on my behalf, or > should I send > > the change request to sourcemaster@cygnus.com ? > > I don't actually follow that project any more (I used to), so I don't > know who maintains the Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ. There is a cygwin-xfree > mailing list, perhaps you should write to that instead of an > individual? > > Anyway, last I heard, I thought Suhaib was effectively head of the > cygwin-xfree project, so he should be able to co-ordinate the changes > you require. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > David > From goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr Wed Jun 20 05:22:00 2001 From: goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:22:00 -0000 Subject: twm problem Message-ID: <200106201220.OAA03295@bsf.alcatel.fr> HI, First I would like to thanks Pavel and Suhaib for their help. Now I started Cygwin/XFree86 with NT but when I start startxwin.bat I have the following error twm invalid color name "black","white",sladegray,gray 85 .... Thank you From st002279@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de Wed Jun 20 05:24:00 2001 From: st002279@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de (Alexander Mai) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: How to build shared librairie with Cygwin References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010620142416.A14215@sub4.hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:15:33AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > I actually find this long thread useless. The complainer knows there is a > Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ and knows the URL. There are names of maintainer, and > core team members listed on Cygwin/Xfree86 URL. There is a mailing list to > complain, yell, or whine, and... above all I prefer users who like to give a > hand to an open source project then to whine about minor things. If absense > of LessTif precompiled binaries are worrying Michel Bardiaux so much then > how about he takes the task of helping LessTif and Cygwin/Xfree86 project to > provide precompiled binaries? Well, all he did was to point out a "bug" within that FAQ. You can't expect everyone who does so to start actively working on a project. It's certainly helpful for FAQ maintainers and readers to get this fixed, it just took a while to discuss who's responsible ;-) As outlined the LessTif developers are responsible (if at all ...) only for the stuff which is on LessTif web sites. Any third-party docs or packages are maintained by other people and so one should report there. -- Alexander Mai st002279@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de From delmiro.f@virgin.net Wed Jun 20 05:54:00 2001 From: delmiro.f@virgin.net (Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:54:00 -0000 Subject: intalation under winME Message-ID: <3B309C74.7EB273CC@virgin.net> Hi I have try to get the binaries of 4.1.0 to run the xserver under winME. I decompress and untar everything in the rigth place. Put the SecurytyPlociy file where should be etc. But I still get this: $ ./XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () with nothing else that a 800x600 screen wiht flucking black dots in it Any ideas or help to put this to run! Also when I use the .bat file startxwin I do not find rxvt From mbardiaux@peaktime.be Wed Jun 20 06:12:00 2001 From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:12:00 -0000 Subject: How to build shared librairie with Cygwin References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B30A133.A72212EA@peaktime.be> Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > I actually find this long thread useless. The complainer knows there is a > Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ and knows the URL. There are names of maintainer, and > core team members listed on Cygwin/Xfree86 URL. There is a mailing list to > complain, yell, or whine, and... above all I prefer users who like to give a > hand to an open source project then to whine about minor things. If absense > of LessTif precompiled binaries are worrying Michel Bardiaux so much then > how about he takes the task of helping LessTif and Cygwin/Xfree86 project to > provide precompiled binaries? > > Suhaib Please let me go back to the origin of this thing. Someone asked in comp.windows.x.motif how to convert a UNIX/X11 application to the WIN32 API. I replied such an extensive conversion was not necessary because Cygwin provided the X server and the X11 and Xt libraries, and Lesstif could provide the Xm library if needed. While checking the URLs I found the announcement for "LessTif precompiled binaries for Cygwin", thought "Great news!", then ended up uncomfortably between 2 contradictory FAQs. I tried to notify their maintainers, and that seems to make me rather unpopular. OK, now the request will be in the cygwin-xfree list, so I'll shut up. As for 'putting up' ('give a hand rather than whining'), one can't very well work on *all* Open Source projects one comes into contact with. Give and take *on the whole*. I'm currently working on something entirely different which *will* be GPL; it would be "inefficient" (as 7 of 9 would put it) to try and become an expert in both Cygwin and the Lesstif building process when I know so little about them. Well, actually, as a penance, I can contribute something for Lesstif. See another message with subject "XmListSelectPosPlus". Greetings. -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 06:15:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:15:00 -0000 Subject: How to build shared librairie with Cygwin Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I removed the references to Lesstif binaries from FAQ. I hope this helps. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Bardiaux [ mailto:mbardiaux@peaktime.be ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:12 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'; 'lesstif@lesstif.org' > Subject: Re: How to build shared librairie with Cygwin > > > Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > I actually find this long thread useless. The complainer > knows there is a > > Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ and knows the URL. There are names of > maintainer, and > > core team members listed on Cygwin/Xfree86 URL. There is a > mailing list to > > complain, yell, or whine, and... above all I prefer users > who like to give a > > hand to an open source project then to whine about minor > things. If absense > > of LessTif precompiled binaries are worrying Michel > Bardiaux so much then > > how about he takes the task of helping LessTif and > Cygwin/Xfree86 project to > > provide precompiled binaries? > > > > Suhaib > > Please let me go back to the origin of this thing. Someone asked in > comp.windows.x.motif how to convert a UNIX/X11 application to > the WIN32 > API. I replied such an extensive conversion was not necessary because > Cygwin provided the X server and the X11 and Xt libraries, and Lesstif > could provide the Xm library if needed. While checking the > URLs I found > the announcement for "LessTif precompiled binaries for > Cygwin", thought > "Great news!", then ended up uncomfortably between 2 > contradictory FAQs. > I tried to notify their maintainers, and that seems to make me rather > unpopular. OK, now the request will be in the cygwin-xfree > list, so I'll > shut up. > > As for 'putting up' ('give a hand rather than whining'), one > can't very > well work on *all* Open Source projects one comes into contact with. > Give and take *on the whole*. I'm currently working on something > entirely different which *will* be GPL; it would be > "inefficient" (as 7 > of 9 would put it) to try and become an expert in both Cygwin and the > Lesstif building process when I know so little about them. > > Well, actually, as a penance, I can contribute something for Lesstif. > See another message with subject "XmListSelectPosPlus". > > Greetings. > -- > Michel Bardiaux > Peaktime Belgium S.A. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent > Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10 > From delmiro.f@virgin.net Wed Jun 20 06:19:00 2001 From: delmiro.f@virgin.net (Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:19:00 -0000 Subject: the startxwin.bat file Message-ID: <3B30A25D.12F79404@virgin.net> I am using this bat file @echo off SET DISPLAY= :0.0 SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin rem cleanup after last run attrib -s \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 del \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 rmdir \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e /usr/bin/bash xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash twm REM set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? @echo on Does not find path of tmp\X11-unix does not find rxvt and xterm, mxterm and twm give me errors such it does not find Xt etc From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 20 08:18:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:18:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree under Win32? Message-ID: <200106201518.f5KFIUd135488@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Just curious... I saw that there is a Win32.cf file... does this mean that Xfree can compile under Win32 instead of cygwin? Are there any resources on this? Thanks, Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From soliman@quicknet.nl Wed Jun 20 10:25:00 2001 From: soliman@quicknet.nl (Marcel Soliman) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:25:00 -0000 Subject: look what i did! Message-ID: cygwin_xfree86_wmaker.jpg From s_a_shaikh@yahoo.com Wed Jun 20 10:30:00 2001 From: s_a_shaikh@yahoo.com (Shamsul A Shaikh) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:30:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree 86/Cygwin & NT References: <200106200852.KAA05763@bsf.alcatel.fr> Message-ID: Hi, > I use Xfree 4.03 under Winnt.Actually I successfully installed > Cygwin/free86 in > my Windows 98 SE and I decided to port it to a NT machine. > I copied c:\Cygwin and I ran Xfree with the command: > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -screen 0 800x600x16 > and I have the following > you used the windows copy command - that won't work as it doesn't copy all the cygwin links etc. if you have shared drives please use the cygwin cp command to copy it. There are also certain registry entries which are made by the cygwin setup which did not get copied. a perfect solution would be to install cygwin from the installer program and then use the cygwin cp command thanks Shams _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 20 10:35:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:35:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree 86/Cygwin & NT References: <200106200852.KAA05763@bsf.alcatel.fr> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Jorge Goncalvez wrote: > Hi, thank you for your help Pavel and Suhaib but my Cygwin/Xfree86 still doesn't > work. > > I use Xfree 4.03 under Winnt.Actually I successfully installed Cygwin/free86 in > my Windows 98 SE and I decided to port it to a NT machine. > I copied c:\Cygwin and I ran Xfree with the command: > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -screen 0 800x600x16 > and I have the following > > Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 794 height 546 > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f bpRGB: 6 > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returning > PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M > error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from l > ist! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li > st! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from > list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > > > > In fact I don't understand why it works fine in 98 SE and not in NT or 2000. > I only took the same files in both. > > Thank you. > > you still have to setup your mount points. cd c:\cygwin\bin mount -b c:\cygwin /bin mount -b c:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin mount -b c:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib if this doesn't work, please install cygwin using the setup utility. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 10:39:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:39:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree 86/Cygwin & NT Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB4@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > Hi, thank you for your help Pavel and Suhaib but my > Cygwin/Xfree86 still doesn't > work. > > I use Xfree 4.03 under Winnt.Actually I successfully > installed Cygwin/free86 in > my Windows 98 SE and I decided to port it to a NT machine. > I copied c:\Cygwin and I ran Xfree with the command: > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -screen 0 800x600x16 > and I have the following You cannot copy Cygwin from one machine to another... you need mount points too... beside how did you move Cygwin/Xfree86? You need to do a complete installation as suggested in User Guide. Suhaib > > Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 794 height 546 > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f bpRGB: 6 > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returning > PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from l > ist! > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li > st! > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from > list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > > > > In fact I don't understand why it works fine in 98 SE and not > in NT or 2000. > I only took the same files in both. > > Thank you. > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 10:53:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:53:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > For example, a batch file that would contain command line > redirects to save > messages in a file. Or do you have something even more > constructive than that > in mind? You seem to be so full of ideas... You have not posted your problems. Since last two days you had been dancing around with sentences "no go' "did not work for " "I have no networking" "Microsoft got two sources"... BTW: batch file redirect to what? You need to post you startxwin.bat file, what version of xfree are you using? Your Windows configuration? Did you try to follow Rob suggestions of reinstalling TCP/Ip. How do you start x-server? If you want someone to help you send proper info instead of talking unrelated stuff over and over again, please. Suhaib > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > -Robert Cristel > > > Montreal, Canada > > > > > From rcristel@sprint.ca Wed Jun 20 11:03:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (Robert J. Cristel) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:03:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a] Message-ID: <3B30E500.BF56D1B0@sprint.ca> Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > Nope. I have no networking. > > > What do you mean by "no networking" without TCP/IP you cannot use > > > X. > > Just a single machine with dialup. > > > > As Raymond says this appears to be an > > incompatibility with win9x versus winNT. As you know, this is a > > different code base. > > > explain???? Which code base???? > > There is no such thing of incompability between Windows9x and NT. An > application can be designed to run only on Win9x or NT. > > > > > Microsoft internally has two different Windows sources, one > > is Win9x and > > the other is WinNT. > > > > Oh really. I think Bill Gates keep calling you about this different sources > for Windows. Thanks for letting us know. I made a note in my diary and I > will do my best to tell the rest of the world. > > > But this isn't the problem as Raymond has Cygwin/XFree > > working on both. > > Raymond problem is not same as yours. Your problem is we even do not know > what is your problem.... > > > However, X doesn't work on my Win98 2nd installation. I > > would be happy > > to supply you with a message dump if that would be helpful. It would > > require some sort of setup because X just comes up for a one > > second and > > you don't really see anything. > > What kind of special setup? Setup like a CIA of FBI setup to trap the > terrorists? For example, a batch file that would contain command line redirects to save messages in a file. Or do you have something even more constructive than that in mind? You seem to be so full of ideas... > > > Suhaib > > > > > -Robert Cristel > > Montreal, Canada > > From Kevin.Kuphal@motorola.com Wed Jun 20 12:07:00 2001 From: Kevin.Kuphal@motorola.com (Kuphal Kevin-AKK012) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:07:00 -0000 Subject: Re security policy Message-ID: Given all the questions about this, why isn't this command run as part of the installation or a blank file put in that location to remove the error if there is no ill effect from doing so? -----Original Message----- From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:56 AM To: 'Jorge Goncalvez'; 'cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com' Subject: RE: Re security policy It is not an error, rather a warning, which you can ignore. To avoid seeing it either copy a Securitypolicy file from Linux or from bash shell prompt: touch /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPloicy Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:29 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re security policy > > > Hi > i'am under NT4, how to get rid of error opening security policy file > /usr/x11r6/lib/X11/xserver/securitypolicy. > > Thank you > From rcristel@sprint.ca Wed Jun 20 12:39:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (Robert J. Cristel) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: Server Test 33 Message-ID: <3B30FB71.103E3525@sprint.ca> data integrity (CRC) error in data I note that you list 1042 KB and the download gives 1041 KB. Tried it twice. Did anybody else have some success? From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 20 14:00:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: Server Test 33 References: <3B30FB71.103E3525@sprint.ca> Message-ID: Works for me. http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-bunzip2 Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert J. Cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:37 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com; Harold Hunt > Subject: RE: Server Test 33 > > > data integrity (CRC) error in data > > I note that you list 1042 KB and the download gives 1041 KB. Tried it > twice. Did anybody else have some success? > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 20 14:02:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:02:00 -0000 Subject: look what i did! Message-ID: Marcel, Cool. Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 14:11:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:11:00 -0000 Subject: the startxwin.bat file Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DBA@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Edit startxwin.bat and add REM before rxvt and mxterm. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@virgin.net ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:17 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com > Subject: the startxwin.bat file > > > I am using this bat file > > @echo off > SET DISPLAY= :0.0 > SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > rem cleanup after last run > attrib -s \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > del \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > rmdir \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > > start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e /usr/bin/bash > xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > twm > > REM set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? > @echo on > > Does not find path of tmp\X11-unix > does not find rxvt > and xterm, mxterm and twm give me errors such it does not find Xt etc > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 14:12:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:12:00 -0000 Subject: intalation under winME Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DBB@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> >> Hi > I have try to get the binaries of 4.1.0 to run the xserver > under winME. > I decompress and untar everything in the rigth place. Put the > SecurytyPlociy file where should be etc. But I still get this: > > $ ./XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > 32 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > with nothing else that a 800x600 screen wiht flucking black dots in it > > Any ideas or help to put this to run! > > Also when I use the .bat file startxwin I do not find rxvt You can edit and add REM before rxvt and mxterm commands in startxwin.bat file. > From cabo@tzi.org Wed Jun 20 14:20:00 2001 From: cabo@tzi.org (Dr. Carsten Bormann) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:20:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DA9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Folks, for xterm paste, use shift-insert. No need to buy a new mouse. Gruesse, Carsten (Oh, and you can change the VT100.translations if you don't like the standard key.) From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 20 14:36:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:36:00 -0000 Subject: Server Test 33 References: <3B311569.524F5F9E@sprint.ca> Message-ID: Because my University doesn't allow anonymous ftp :( Sorry. Although, until you asked just now, I hadn't thought to look into it. :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert J. Cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:28 PM > To: Harold Hunt > Subject: Re: Server Test 33 > > > Why don't you put ftp:// instead of http:// on the announcement > link as well > as on your resource page? > > Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Works for me. > > > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-bunzip2 > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Robert J. Cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:37 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com; Harold Hunt > > > Subject: RE: Server Test 33 > > > > > > > > > data integrity (CRC) error in data > > > > > > I note that you list 1042 KB and the download gives 1041 KB. Tried it > > > twice. Did anybody else have some success? > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 14:42:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: intalation under winME Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DBC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> change it > SET DISPLAY= :0 to set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:38 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > Thanks I tried adding the REM but no improvement here the > outcome of two > MSDOS prompts I get when clicking on the startwin.bat > File startxwin.bat > @echo off > SET DISPLAY= :0 > SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > rem cleanup after last run > attrib -s \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > del \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > rmdir \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > > start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > REM rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e /usr/bin/bash > xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > REM mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > twm > > REM set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? > @echo on > -------- > I get this: > > Path not found - \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > Path not found > Invalid path, not directory, > or directory not empty > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > /USR/X11R6/BIN/XTERM Xt error: Can't open display: :0 > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > /USR/X11R6/BIN/TWM: unable to open display " :0" > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin> > > ---------- > And this: > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > ---------- > And a 800x600 screen that is flickering and black with lines > > Any ideas? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: 20 June 2001 22:13 > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes'; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > >> Hi > > I have try to get the binaries of 4.1.0 to run the xserver > > under winME. > > I decompress and untar everything in the rigth place. Put the > > SecurytyPlociy file where should be etc. But I still get this: > > > > $ ./XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 > height 600 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > > 32 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > > > with nothing else that a 800x600 screen wiht flucking black > dots in it > > > > Any ideas or help to put this to run! > > > > Also when I use the .bat file startxwin I do not find rxvt > > > You can edit and add REM before rxvt and mxterm commands in > startxwin.bat > file. > > > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Jun 20 15:02:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:02:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree 86/Cygwin & NT References: <200106200852.KAA05763@bsf.alcatel.fr> Message-ID: <019c01c0f9d4$8eb23300$0400a8c0@local> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Goncalvez" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 6:52 PM Subject: Re:Xfree 86/Cygwin & NT > Hi, thank you for your help Pavel and Suhaib but my Cygwin/Xfree86 still doesn't > work. > > I use Xfree 4.03 under Winnt.Actually I successfully installed Cygwin/free86 in > my Windows 98 SE and I decided to port it to a NT machine. > I copied c:\Cygwin and I ran Xfree with the command: > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -screen 0 800x600x16 > and I have the following "Copying cygwin" won't transfer the mount table and path. Run Cygwin's setup.exe and install cygwin. Then try again. Rob > > Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 794 height 546 > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f bpRGB: 6 > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returning > PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M > error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from l > ist! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li > st! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from > list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from > list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > > > > In fact I don't understand why it works fine in 98 SE and not in NT or 2000. > I only took the same files in both. > > Thank you. > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 20 17:16:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:16:00 -0000 Subject: intalation under winME Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DBF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Please keep replies to the list. Are you sure you did not make a mistake? >From your error > Xt error: Can't open display: :0 I think you made a mistake in export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 It should be exactly as I wrote that 0.0 after :. Also what you can do, start Cygwin bash shell and try the following. cd /usr/X11R6/bin export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 ./Xwin :0& ./xterm & ./twm & Let us know if it still gives error on display Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:45 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > I did tryed that but stil get the same message that cannot open the > display > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: 20 June 2001 22:43 > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes' > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com' > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > change it > SET DISPLAY= :0 > > to > set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:38 PM > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > > Thanks I tried adding the REM but no improvement here the > > outcome of two > > MSDOS prompts I get when clicking on the startwin.bat > > File startxwin.bat > > @echo off > > SET DISPLAY= :0 > > SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > > > rem cleanup after last run > > attrib -s \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > del \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > rmdir \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > > > > start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > > > REM rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e /usr/bin/bash > > xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > /usr/bin/bash > > REM mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > /usr/bin/bash > > twm > > > > REM set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? > > @echo on > > -------- > > I get this: > > > > Path not found - \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > Path not found > > Invalid path, not directory, > > or directory not empty > > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > > /USR/X11R6/BIN/XTERM Xt error: Can't open display: :0 > > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > > /USR/X11R6/BIN/TWM: unable to open display " :0" > > > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin> > > > > ---------- > > And this: > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height > 600 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > ---------- > > And a 800x600 screen that is flickering and black with lines > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > Sent: 20 June 2001 22:13 > > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes'; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi > > > I have try to get the binaries of 4.1.0 to run the xserver > > > under winME. > > > I decompress and untar everything in the rigth place. Put the > > > SecurytyPlociy file where should be etc. But I still get this: > > > > > > $ ./XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines > 00000007 > > > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 > > height 600 > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > > > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > > > 32 > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > > > > > with nothing else that a 800x600 screen wiht flucking black > > dots in it > > > > > > Any ideas or help to put this to run! > > > > > > Also when I use the .bat file startxwin I do not find rxvt > > > > > > You can edit and add REM before rxvt and mxterm commands in > > startxwin.bat > > file. > > > > > > > From delmiro.f@ntlworld.com Wed Jun 20 18:13:00 2001 From: delmiro.f@ntlworld.com (Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:13:00 -0000 Subject: intalation under winME References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DBF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Sorry I did forgot to sent it to the list I have export the display but I stil get stock in the message at the shell .... winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap and again I get the same window I have tried to compile yesterday but no suscess so far I am using the 4.1.0 binaries. Should I move to the 4.0.3? Thanks Delmiro -----Original Message----- From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] Sent: 21 June 2001 01:17 To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes' Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: RE: intalation under winME Please keep replies to the list. Are you sure you did not make a mistake? >From your error > Xt error: Can't open display: :0 I think you made a mistake in export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 It should be exactly as I wrote that 0.0 after :. Also what you can do, start Cygwin bash shell and try the following. cd /usr/X11R6/bin export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 ./Xwin :0& ./xterm & ./twm & Let us know if it still gives error on display Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:45 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > I did tryed that but stil get the same message that cannot open the > display > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: 20 June 2001 22:43 > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes' > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com' > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > change it > SET DISPLAY= :0 > > to > set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:38 PM > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > > Thanks I tried adding the REM but no improvement here the > > outcome of two > > MSDOS prompts I get when clicking on the startwin.bat > > File startxwin.bat > > @echo off > > SET DISPLAY= :0 > > SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > > > rem cleanup after last run > > attrib -s \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > del \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > rmdir \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > > > > start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > > > REM rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e /usr/bin/bash > > xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > /usr/bin/bash > > REM mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > /usr/bin/bash > > twm > > > > REM set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? > > @echo on > > -------- > > I get this: > > > > Path not found - \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > Path not found > > Invalid path, not directory, > > or directory not empty > > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > > /USR/X11R6/BIN/XTERM Xt error: Can't open display: :0 > > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > > /USR/X11R6/BIN/TWM: unable to open display " :0" > > > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin> > > > > ---------- > > And this: > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height > 600 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > ---------- > > And a 800x600 screen that is flickering and black with lines > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > Sent: 20 June 2001 22:13 > > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes'; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi > > > I have try to get the binaries of 4.1.0 to run the xserver > > > under winME. > > > I decompress and untar everything in the rigth place. Put the > > > SecurytyPlociy file where should be etc. But I still get this: > > > > > > $ ./XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines > 00000007 > > > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 > > height 600 > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > > > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > > > 32 > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > > > > > with nothing else that a 800x600 screen wiht flucking black > > dots in it > > > > > > Any ideas or help to put this to run! > > > > > > Also when I use the .bat file startxwin I do not find rxvt > > > > > > You can edit and add REM before rxvt and mxterm commands in > > startxwin.bat > > file. > > > > > > > From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Wed Jun 20 18:21:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Genisio) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:21:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree under Win32? References: <200106201518.f5KFIUd135488@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20010620212214.01d70e58@pilot.msu.edu> Yes there are... sources.redhat.com/win32-x11 (I found it after I sent the question... sorry) At 11:18 AM 6/20/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Just curious... I saw that there is a Win32.cf file... does this mean that >Xfree can compile under Win32 instead of cygwin? Are there any resources on >this? > >Thanks, >Brian > > >-- >--------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu >~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From scowles@infogen.ws Wed Jun 20 18:35:00 2001 From: scowles@infogen.ws (S. Cowles) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:35:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3.2-1 Message-ID: <12299016498.20010620183523@infogen.ws> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I installed the xfree86 binaries on the current cygwin 1.3.2-1 installation (Win2K/SP2). XWin.exe fails to come up; the error message is: Application popup: XWin.exe - Application Error : The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022). Click on OK to terminate the application. Any ideas on what the problem might be? I'm quite willing to provide further diagnostics if they'd help. Thanks, sid scowles@infogen.ws -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQB7AwUBOzFPUa8Vat2+ticVAQHF3AMqApeAkVTgSxx2m+BLSd24u6qc1orS3I0F vsmYbJ3QbtMTawZXh+RKFGZ2eMSHNCUsijFsvEDZkAUYU254Amn9q9ebkZHqIZUI /8tY690MxYd4Cl4aMRcp+DGsguVVnwTDUIRLi5tS =gfqn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Jun 20 23:17:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:17:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again Message-ID: Hi there Two notes to test releases (I think real bugs) Test 33, 32 (possibly 31) doesn't work with 8bit color depth see the output: $ XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 8 -engine 4 -query 129.1.1.101 -kb -once -fullscreen ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 14 i: 1 winAllocatePrivates () - g_ulServerGeneration: 0 serverGeneration: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - FullScreen, using command line depth: 8 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Could not create shadow surface 80070057 winFinishScreenInitFB () - Could not allocate framebuffer winScreenInit () - winFinishScreenInit () failed Fatal server error: Couldn't add screen 0 This works fine for 32bit color depth. And this worked fine for test30, too. Test 33 only - when I switch from XServer to another application and back (using Alt+Tab combination), the screen is not refreshed and there is following error message in the DOS (or bash) window: winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - MapWindowPoints () failed winKeybdReleaseModifierKeys - Releasing VK_LMENU winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - MapWindowPoints () failed winKeybdReleaseModifierKeys - Releasing VK_LMENU And the question again - HOW TO TELL THE XSERVER TO CHANGE LOCALE? I know how to change kayboard layout, but HOW TO TELL XSERVER TO USE 8859-2 FONTS (Latin-2 - Central and Eastern Europe) instead of 8859-1 (Latin 1 - Western Europe and USA, I guess)? Is this possible? Thanks Pavel From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Thu Jun 21 00:10:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:10:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste References: Message-ID: <3B319DFD.C837FF46@team.owl-online.de> Hi, thank you... it works... but why did my mouse-button not work? "Dr. Carsten Bormann" schrieb: > Folks, > > for xterm paste, use shift-insert. > No need to buy a new mouse. > > Gruesse, Carsten > > (Oh, and you can change the VT100.translations if you don't like the > standard key.) -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Thu Jun 21 00:15:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:15:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DAF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B319F38.169970FD@team.owl-online.de> hmmm, I don????t really know... I have downloaded all versions I got... I know I can????t the clear which version I have. Is there a way to check it out Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > What version of XFree86 4.1.0? Maybe you already wrote in your previous > messages, I forgot. Emulate3buttons works just fine > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:28 AM > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > Hi, > > > > with -emulate3button there comes an errormessage starting the Xserver: > > unrecognized option. > > I will try an old Logitech 3 Button mouse this afternoon and > > inform you > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > Have you tried adding -emulate3button as I suggested? > > > I do not have Logitech MouseMan, only Microsoft Intellimouse and > > > Intellisense mouse, wheel works as a third mouse button, if > > I press it down. > > > Can you try another mouse, instead of a Logitech? > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:13 AM > > > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > I am using a Logitech MouseMan Wheel, the middle wheel is > > not working > > > > for me > > > > under cygwin ;-( > > > > That????s really horrible, because everything else is > > working so fine... > > > > KDE, all > > > > X-Programms and the speed is really ok. > > > > That could be the best way ever to work with Linux and > > Windows on one > > > > PC... but > > > > not for me ;-( > > > > Please try to help > > > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > No clipboard pasting... the normal left mouse cut right mouse > > > > paste > > > > > > function (or > > > > > > both mouse button) > > > > > > Nothing works... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It works over here. I can cut and paste between two > > xterm windows. > > > > I am > > > > > using Microsoft Intellimouse, the middle wheel works as a third > > > > mouse button > > > > > which lets me paste between Xterms. > > > > > > > > > > If you are using a two button mouse are you using > > -emulate3buttons > > > > [timeout] > > > > > command-line option? > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > PS: Please keep your replies to the list. Thanks you. > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > > cut and paste between X should work like on your > > Linux box.... > > > > that > > > > > > is > > > > > > > highlight then press both mouse button to paste... > > does it not > > > > work > > > > > > for you? > > > > > > > If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that > > one is not > > > > > > available yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > > > > > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > > > > > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted this question for the 4. time and did not get an > > > > > > > > answer yet... > > > > > > > > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my Linux-server (good) > > > > > > > > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > > > > > > > > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is > > working fine > > > > with > > > > > > > > "native" Linux. > > > > > > > > This is the only reason that I????m not working with cygwin > > > > (without > > > > > > cut > > > > > > > > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > > > > > > > > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on my WIN2000 > > > > machine. > > > > > > That > > > > > > > > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when > > trying to open > > > > some > > > > > > > > X-Programms on it. > > > > > > > > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever > > seen on the > > > > > > > > net, but... > > > > > > > > no mouse is running tough... > > > > > > > > Any help outside????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------ > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > Systemtechnik > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 21 00:43:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:43:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again References: Message-ID: Pavel, > Two notes to test releases (I think real bugs) > > Test 33, 32 (possibly 31) doesn't work with 8bit color depth see the > output: You caught me. The problem is not related to 8 bit color, per se. Rather, I was a little too clever in my attempt to avoid changing the video mode. How clever you ask? So clever that I forgot to change the video mode if the desired display depth was different than the current display depth. I've got a fix, but I don't know if I'll release tonight... it is time for bed. > Test 33 only - when I switch from XServer to another application and back > (using Alt+Tab combination), the screen is not refreshed and there is > following error message in the DOS (or bash) window: > winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - MapWindowPoints () failed > winKeybdReleaseModifierKeys - Releasing VK_LMENU > winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - MapWindowPoints () failed > winKeybdReleaseModifierKeys - Releasing VK_LMENU I added a check to see if MapWindowPoints was working, as blitting when MapWindowPoints failed may be causing crashes. Now I can see that MapWindowPoints is sometimes failing, so I'll have to look into the problem. Thanks for the bug report, but don't expect an immediate fix, as this may take awhile to dig into. > And the question again - HOW TO TELL THE XSERVER TO CHANGE LOCALE? I know > how to change kayboard layout, but HOW TO TELL XSERVER TO USE 8859-2 FONTS > (Latin-2 - Central and Eastern Europe) instead of 8859-1 (Latin 1 > - Western > Europe and USA, I guess)? Is this possible? I have no idea :( Like I have said before, I am a terrible X user. Harold From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Thu Jun 21 01:11:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:11:00 -0000 Subject: KDE remote on cygwin/XFree Message-ID: <3B31AC49.95647EB0@team.owl-online.de> Hi, now I????m working with kde from my Linuxbox on my W2K-machine. The problem with my mouse is not solved but there is a workaround with shift+insert. But sometimes my xterm is losing it????s focus. No keyboard-input is coming up to it. What????s that? -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Thu Jun 21 02:20:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:20:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again Message-ID: <3B31BC61.DB1C98A6@team.owl-online.de> Hmmm, after working for 3 hours the keyboard is losing it????s focus so hard that I always have to kill the xterm because I can????t work anymore. -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gr????????en Cord-H. 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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 03:49:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:49:00 -0000 Subject: twm problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@mail.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:20 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re:twm problem > > > HI, First I would like to thanks Pavel and Suhaib for their help. > > Now I started Cygwin/XFree86 with NT but when I start > startxwin.bat I have the > following error > > twm invalid color name "black","white",sladegray,gray 85 .... > > Thank you > your rgb file is corruptd. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 03:53:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:53:00 -0000 Subject: mouse and cut and paste Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > hmmm, I don????t really know... > I have downloaded all versions I got... I know I can????t the clear which > version I have. > Is there a way to check it out Yes xdpyinfo, should give version info at the top... 3rd or 4th line. Suhaib > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > What version of XFree86 4.1.0? Maybe you already wrote in > your previous > > messages, I forgot. Emulate3buttons works just fine > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:28 AM > > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > with -emulate3button there comes an errormessage starting > the Xserver: > > > unrecognized option. > > > I will try an old Logitech 3 Button mouse this afternoon and > > > inform you > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > Have you tried adding -emulate3button as I suggested? > > > > I do not have Logitech MouseMan, only Microsoft Intellimouse and > > > > Intellisense mouse, wheel works as a third mouse button, if > > > I press it down. > > > > Can you try another mouse, instead of a Logitech? > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:13 AM > > > > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > > Subject: Re: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > > I am using a Logitech MouseMan Wheel, the middle wheel is > > > not working > > > > > for me > > > > > under cygwin ;-( > > > > > That????s really horrible, because everything else is > > > working so fine... > > > > > KDE, all > > > > > X-Programms and the speed is really ok. > > > > > That could be the best way ever to work with Linux and > > > Windows on one > > > > > PC... but > > > > > not for me ;-( > > > > > Please try to help > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > No clipboard pasting... the normal left mouse cut > right mouse > > > > > paste > > > > > > > function (or > > > > > > > both mouse button) > > > > > > > Nothing works... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It works over here. I can cut and paste between two > > > xterm windows. > > > > > I am > > > > > > using Microsoft Intellimouse, the middle wheel > works as a third > > > > > mouse button > > > > > > which lets me paste between Xterms. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are using a two button mouse are you using > > > -emulate3buttons > > > > > [timeout] > > > > > > command-line option? > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: Please keep your replies to the list. Thanks you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cut and paste between X should work like on your > > > Linux box.... > > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > highlight then press both mouse button to paste... > > > does it not > > > > > work > > > > > > > for you? > > > > > > > > If you are looking a clipboard cut and paste, that > > > one is not > > > > > > > available yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Cord-H. Fricke > [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:24 AM > > > > > > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > > > > > > > Subject: mouse and cut and paste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted this question for the 4. time and > did not get an > > > > > > > > > answer yet... > > > > > > > > > Cygwin/XFree running with KDE from my > Linux-server (good) > > > > > > > > > But in an XTerm I can????t cut and paste... > > > > > > > > > My mouse (Logitech cordless mouseman wheel) is > > > working fine > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > "native" Linux. > > > > > > > > > This is the only reason that I????m not working > with cygwin > > > > > (without > > > > > > > cut > > > > > > > > > and paste it????s not so interessting... ;-)) > > > > > > > > > I????m working also with M/X-Server and fvwm2 on > my WIN2000 > > > > > machine. > > > > > > > That > > > > > > > > > ok but the X-Server is sometimes crashing when > > > trying to open > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > X-Programms on it. > > > > > > > > > So the way to use cygwin was the best I????ve ever > > > seen on the > > > > > > > > > net, but... > > > > > > > > > no mouse is running tough... > > > > > > > > > Any help outside????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------ > > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > > Systemtechnik > > > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 03:58:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:58:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree under Win32? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Michael Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:19 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Xfree under Win32? > > > Just curious... I saw that there is a Win32.cf file... does > this mean that > Xfree can compile under Win32 instead of cygwin? Are there > any resources on > this? > no. there are lots of *.cf files which do not work for Xfree86. Those *.cf came from X11R6.x. BTW: almost a year ago while Xfree86 4.0 was still being developed internally at XFree86.org, I manage to compile it with MSVC 5.0 and had a patch file of 12 MB. I spent sveral months on it, but in a computer crash I lost the patch file, and unfortunately I did not have a backup copy :-( After that I never had a courage to start from scratch again and spend several months. However to answer your questions, yes it is feasible, but no resources or pointers on this. You can check win32-x11 project at http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11 but it is based upon stock X11R6.5.11 Suhaib > Thanks, > Brian > > > -- > --------------------------- > \\|// Brian Genisio > (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu > ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 04:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:02:00 -0000 Subject: Xfce for WinNT ? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC4@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Saha, Nakshatra [ mailto:nakshatra.saha@intel.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:23 AM > To: 'ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com' > Subject: Xfce for WinNT ? > Importance: High > > > Hi, > > Can you send me a pointer to this Xfce compiled for WinNT ? > I see it in the screenshots always but not able to find > where from to download it. > > Thanks, > Nakshatra. > look into contrib directory at ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin/xfree or one of the mirrors and please keep the mails to list only. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 04:05:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:05:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > And the question again - HOW TO TELL THE XSERVER TO CHANGE > LOCALE? I know > > how to change kayboard layout, but HOW TO TELL XSERVER TO > USE 8859-2 FONTS > > (Latin-2 - Central and Eastern Europe) instead of 8859-1 (Latin 1 > > - Western > > Europe and USA, I guess)? Is this possible? > > I have no idea :( Like I have said before, I am a terrible X user. > > Harold > You can try setting LOCALE at Windows level... like we do for XkeysymDB i.e. CLOCALE=c;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\xxxxx Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 04:13:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:13:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3.2-1 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Can you try Cygwin1.dll from one of the latest Cygwin Development snapshots? rename your original Cygwin1.dll in cygwin\bin to cygwin1.dll-orig and copy the Cygwin1.dll from the latest Cygwin development snapshot to cygwin\bin. Let us know if tht helps. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Cowles [ mailto:scowles@infogen.ws ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:35 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3.2-1 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > I installed the xfree86 binaries on the current cygwin > 1.3.2-1 installation > (Win2K/SP2). XWin.exe fails to come up; the error message is: > > Application popup: XWin.exe - Application Error : The > application failed to > initialize properly (0xc0000022). Click on OK to terminate > the application. > > Any ideas on what the problem might be? I'm quite willing to > provide further > diagnostics if they'd help. > > Thanks, > > sid > scowles@infogen.ws > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 7.0.4 > > iQB7AwUBOzFPUa8Vat2+ticVAQHF3AMqApeAkVTgSxx2m+BLSd24u6qc1orS3I0F > vsmYbJ3QbtMTawZXh+RKFGZ2eMSHNCUsijFsvEDZkAUYU254Amn9q9ebkZHqIZUI > /8tY690MxYd4Cl4aMRcp+DGsguVVnwTDUIRLi5tS > =gfqn > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 04:17:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:17:00 -0000 Subject: KDE remote on cygwin/XFree Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:12 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > Subject: KDE remote on cygwin/XFree > > > Hi, > > now I????m working with kde from my Linuxbox on my W2K-machine. > The problem > with my mouse is not solved but there is a workaround with > shift+insert. > But sometimes my xterm is losing it????s focus. No > keyboard-input is coming > up to it. > What????s that? Is that after you minimize then maximize Xserver windows? press Alt a few times. Suhaib > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 04:20:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:20:00 -0000 Subject: intalation under winME Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Can you try one of Harold latest Test X-server, you will find his announcements in the mailing list archive. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:10 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > Sorry I did forgot to sent it to the list > I have export the display but I stil get stock in the message > at the shell > .... > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap > > and again I get the same window > I have tried to compile yesterday but no suscess so far > I am using the 4.1.0 binaries. Should I move to the 4.0.3? > Thanks > Delmiro > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Sent: 21 June 2001 01:17 > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes' > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > Please keep replies to the list. Are you sure you did not > make a mistake? > From your error > Xt error: Can't open display: :0 I think you made a > mistake in export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 It should be exactly > as I wrote > that 0.0 after :. Also what you can do, start Cygwin bash > shell and try the > following. > > cd /usr/X11R6/bin > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > ./Xwin :0& > ./xterm & > ./twm & > > Let us know if it still gives error on display > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:45 PM > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > I did tryed that but stil get the same message that cannot open the > > display > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > Sent: 20 June 2001 22:43 > > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes' > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com' > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > > > > change it > SET DISPLAY= :0 > > > > to > > set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:delmiro.f@ntlworld.com ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:38 PM > > > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > > > > > Thanks I tried adding the REM but no improvement here the > > > outcome of two > > > MSDOS prompts I get when clicking on the startwin.bat > > > File startxwin.bat > > > @echo off > > > SET DISPLAY= :0 > > > SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > > > > > rem cleanup after last run > > > attrib -s \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > > del \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > > rmdir \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix > > > > > > start XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > > > > > REM rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e /usr/bin/bash > > > xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > > /usr/bin/bash > > > REM mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > > /usr/bin/bash > > > twm > > > > > > REM set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? > > > @echo on > > > -------- > > > I get this: > > > > > > Path not found - \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > > > Path not found > > > Invalid path, not directory, > > > or directory not empty > > > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > > > /USR/X11R6/BIN/XTERM Xt error: Can't open display: :0 > > > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for > > > /USR/X11R6/BIN/TWM: unable to open display " :0" > > > > > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin> > > > > > > ---------- > > > And this: > > > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported > engines 00000007 > > > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height > > 600 > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > > > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > > ---------- > > > And a 800x600 screen that is flickering and black with lines > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > > > Sent: 20 June 2001 22:13 > > > To: 'Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes'; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > > Subject: RE: intalation under winME > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi > > > > I have try to get the binaries of 4.1.0 to run the xserver > > > > under winME. > > > > I decompress and untar everything in the rigth place. Put the > > > > SecurytyPlociy file where should be etc. But I still get this: > > > > > > > > $ ./XWin -screen 0 800x600x32 -engine 4 > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines > > 00000007 > > > > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > > > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 > > > height 600 > > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > > > > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > > > > 32 > > > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > > > > > > > with nothing else that a 800x600 screen wiht flucking black > > > dots in it > > > > > > > > Any ideas or help to put this to run! > > > > > > > > Also when I use the .bat file startxwin I do not find rxvt > > > > > > > > > You can edit and add REM before rxvt and mxterm commands in > > > startxwin.bat > > > file. > > > > > > > > > > > From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Thu Jun 21 07:51:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:51:00 -0000 Subject: KDE remote on cygwin/XFree References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B320A18.D1D11521@team.owl-online.de> No, I have 4 virtual desktops on my Windoze-machine. When changing from one desktop in another and back the keyboard is gone... Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:12 AM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > Subject: KDE remote on cygwin/XFree > > > > > > Hi, > > > > now I????m working with kde from my Linuxbox on my W2K-machine. > > The problem > > with my mouse is not solved but there is a workaround with > > shift+insert. > > But sometimes my xterm is losing it????s focus. No > > keyboard-input is coming > > up to it. > > What????s that? > > Is that after you minimize then maximize Xserver windows? > press Alt a few times. > > Suhaib > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------ > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > Systemtechnik > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Thu Jun 21 07:52:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:52:00 -0000 Subject: KDE remote on cygwin/XFree References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B320A5E.5B1E011E@team.owl-online.de> But I will also try to press ALT a few (more) times Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:12 AM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > Subject: KDE remote on cygwin/XFree > > > > > > Hi, > > > > now I????m working with kde from my Linuxbox on my W2K-machine. > > The problem > > with my mouse is not solved but there is a workaround with > > shift+insert. > > But sometimes my xterm is losing it????s focus. No > > keyboard-input is coming > > up to it. > > What????s that? > > Is that after you minimize then maximize Xserver windows? > press Alt a few times. > > Suhaib > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------ > > Mit freundlichen Gr????????en > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > Systemtechnik > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > http://team.owl-online.de > > > > -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From scowles@infogen.ws Thu Jun 21 08:49:00 2001 From: scowles@infogen.ws (S. Cowles) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:49:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3.2-1 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DC7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <15236549525.20010621084943@infogen.ws> Suhaib, Thanks very much for the suggestion. I installed the snapshot from 19 june and xwin still won't come up. If it helps, this is on a Sony Vaio, PCG-FX190K. sid scowles@infogen.ws =========================================== Thursday, 21 June 2001, 04:12:57, you wrote: SS> From: Suhaib Siddiqi SS> To: "'S. Cowles'" , SS> "'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'" SS> Subject: RE: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3.2-1 SS> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:12:57 -0400 SS> Can you try Cygwin1.dll from one of the latest Cygwin Development snapshots? From mark@yangtze.cs.ucdavis.edu Thu Jun 21 08:50:00 2001 From: mark@yangtze.cs.ucdavis.edu (Mark) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" Message-ID: To all that receive the "Can't open display" message for your X clients. If this is not related to the DISPLAY variable, and other obvious problems, then this kernel patch may help you. I just hacked this together last night, so YMMV, but for the brave you can download a new cygwin1.dll from my site at: http://zambezi.cs.ucdavis.edu/~mark/cygwin1.dll Copy this cygwin1.dll into /bin for the latest release of cygwin. It works for me, but no assurances about your results. Here is a description of the problem. This description pertains to the winsup/cygwin portion of the cygwin kernel. Inside of the client code for X applications, you will find a fcntl F_SETFD. By default the fhandle_socket.cc file for the kernel passes this to fhandle.cc. Inside of fhandle.cc the F_SETFD gets passed to "set_close_on_exec(...)". This then calls set_inheritence(..), which has this ominous line in it: . . /* FIXME: This won't work with sockets */ { ForceCloseHandle2(h, name); . . Anyway, needless to say, the problem has to do with the duplicate handle not being valid for subsequent socket calls. A "fix" that I implemented is to disable the close_on_exec support for sockets only. Inside of fhandler_socket.cc , edit the fcntl(..) function and add this to the switch statement: case F_SETFD: { // the default handler is broken for now // should send -1 but have to lie to vtwm so send 0 res = 0; break; } After I did this, X starts up great and everything is fine except I miss my KDE ;-) Of course, your mileage may vary, and I advise that this bug be sent to the real developers of the cygwin kernel so they can fix it properly. This should be considered a temporary work around! -Mark Oskin From latticeweb@home.com Thu Jun 21 08:50:00 2001 From: latticeweb@home.com (Mohammed Siddique) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: problems Message-ID: <000501c0fa87$6f5d0530$0500a8c0@lattititude> I followed the instructions to run XFree86 but it doesn't work. It says mxterm not found and there is some .X11-unix file missing. There is also some problem with security policy. Can you help me? Thanks From goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr Thu Jun 21 09:18:00 2001 From: goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: inetd & NT Message-ID: <200106211616.SAA29820@cabs40.col.bsf.alcatel.fr> Hi, and thank you for all people who help me now xfree86 runs quite good under NT But I can't run Inetd,How Can I do? I try inet -install-as-service under a dos prompt but it failed. Thank you. From wrinkley3@hotmail.com Thu Jun 21 10:39:00 2001 From: wrinkley3@hotmail.com (Roger Wenham) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:39:00 -0000 Subject: installation under winME References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DBF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Hi, Having watched and posted for a while, there seems to be a common theme that some people, (including me) cannot get Xfree to work on WindowsME and Win98. To sum up: Using startx, the client waits forever for the server to start accepting connections. A window does appear, and the cursor works, but thats it. As suggested, I and others have tried using both 127.0.0.1 and the ethernet address of the machine, to no avail. The exported DISPLAY variable is OK. I have tried starting it from the batch file, a shell file supplied by Suhaib, and from the command line. All methods show the same result. As to the version, I am using the latest version available of both cygwin and Xfree. Just this morning I deleted Xfree and reinstalled it with the latest downloadable version, no change. I guess everyone is very frustrated, I know I am, but I am determined to get to the bottom of this... Some questions: What port does the server listen on? When the server opens and binds its socket, where does it get the address and port from? Given the description of the Xserver window above, ho far is it through it's initialisation? Should I stop waisting my time and wait for a later release (i.e.What stage of development is Xfree at)? Regards to everyone.... Roger From gresham@mediavisual.com Thu Jun 21 12:06:00 2001 From: gresham@mediavisual.com (Paul Gresham) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:06:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" - also fixes CVS problem The descriptor is a file, not a socket Message-ID: <3B3234AD.39E76913@mediavisual.com> Mark, thanks very much, it works fine, I think that patch needs to get into the main cygwin tree asap, as you have also fixed all my problems with cvs under cygwin on WinME. Thanks again. There are a lot of posts for the past few versions of Cygwin regarding the CVS problem, hence the cross-post and full quote of your message. Cheers Paul """ To all that receive the "Can't open display" message for your X clients. If this is not related to the DISPLAY variable, and other obvious problems, then this kernel patch may help you. I just hacked this together last night, so YMMV, but for the brave you can download a new cygwin1.dll from my site at: http://zambezi.cs.ucdavis.edu/~mark/cygwin1.dll Copy this cygwin1.dll into /bin for the latest release of cygwin. It works for me, but no assurances about your results. Here is a description of the problem. This description pertains to the winsup/cygwin portion of the cygwin kernel. Inside of the client code for X applications, you will find a fcntl F_SETFD. By default the fhandle_socket.cc file for the kernel passes this to fhandle.cc. Inside of fhandle.cc the F_SETFD gets passed to "set_close_on_exec(...)". This then calls set_inheritence(..), which has this ominous line in it: . . /* FIXME: This won't work with sockets */ { ForceCloseHandle2(h, name); . . Anyway, needless to say, the problem has to do with the duplicate handle not being valid for subsequent socket calls. A "fix" that I implemented is to disable the close_on_exec support for sockets only. Inside of fhandler_socket.cc , edit the fcntl(..) function and add this to the switch statement: case F_SETFD: { // the default handler is broken for now // should send -1 but have to lie to vtwm so send 0 res = 0; break; } After I did this, X starts up great and everything is fine except I miss my KDE ;-) Of course, your mileage may vary, and I advise that this bug be sent to the real developers of the cygwin kernel so they can fix it properly. This should be considered a temporary work around! -Mark Oskin """ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 12:08:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:08:00 -0000 Subject: problems Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DCB@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> edit /usr/X11R6/bin/starxwin.bat and add REM before rxvt and mxterm. save changes and try using startxwin.bat froma DOS prompt.. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Mohammed Siddique [ mailto:latticeweb@home.com ] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:22 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: problems > > > I followed the instructions to run XFree86 but it doesn't > work. It says > mxterm not found and there is some .X11-unix file missing. > There is also > some problem with security policy. > > Can you help me? > > Thanks > > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 21 12:19:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:19:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 Message-ID: I just posted Test 34 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test34.exe.bz2 (1042 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010621-1500.tar.bz2 (62 KB) Changes: 1) Add desired display depth vs. current display depth as criteria for whether to change the video mode when using a DirectDraw engine in fullscreen. 2) Add experimental support for a real PseudoColor visual. Toggled on and off with WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT in win.h. 3) Add DirectDraw return values to error messages for failed function calls in winshaddd.c and winshadddnl.c. 4) The StaticColor colormap only had 20 colors when using the GDI engine. Create the colormap with all 256 colors in the default GDI palette, and set the shadow DIB palette to the default GDI palette so that all colors in the colormap display correctly. In other words, fix the StaticColor support when using the GDI engine. Enjoy, Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 12:21:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:21:00 -0000 Subject: inetd & NT Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DCC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> That you need to ask at Cygwin mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:16 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re:inetd & NT > > > Hi, and thank you for all people who help me now xfree86 runs > quite good under > NT > > But I can't run Inetd,How Can I do? > > I try inet -install-as-service under a dos prompt but it failed. > > Thank you. > From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 21 12:21:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:21:00 -0000 Subject: How to build shared librairie with Cygwin References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DB2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010621152223.D10212@redhat.com> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:14:54AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: >I removed the references to Lesstif binaries from FAQ. I hope this helps. I also removed them from the cygwin web site. cgf From jwalker@matchlogic.com Thu Jun 21 14:03:00 2001 From: jwalker@matchlogic.com (Jeff Walker) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:03:00 -0000 Subject: modifier oddity Message-ID: <5FE9B713CCCDD311A03400508B8B30130A9185E7@bdr-xcln.corp.matchlogic.com> sorry if this has been covered before, I have looked in the faq, the documentation and the list archives, but it didn't see anything, maybe I just missed it? Using xfree86 on my windows 2000 machine with the latest version of cygwin, looks like the modifiers (alt, shift, ctrl) don't work quite right. I am using "xev" to look at what's going on and I see that the modifiers send a keypress and keyrelease, but it does it constantly while I hold it down. On a xfree86 port to Alpha/OSF (vncserver) (same on Solaris vncserver), I see what a expect, a keypress event when I press the key, nothing until I release it, when I get the keyrelease event. This happens with the window manager on or off, all that is running is mxterm and xev. Thanks in advance. -- Jeff Walker MatchLogic, Inc. jwalker@matchlogic.com 7233 Church Ranch Blvd. Voice 1 (303) 222-2105 Westminster, CO 80021 Fax 1 (303) 222-2001 www.matchlogic.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 21 14:09:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:09:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3.2-1 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DCD@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> OK, then maybe try the latest Harold Test34? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Cowles [ mailto:scowles@infogen.ws ] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:50 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re[2]: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and > cygwin 1.3.2-1 > > > > Suhaib, > > Thanks very much for the suggestion. I installed the > snapshot from 19 june and > xwin still won't come up. > > If it helps, this is on a Sony Vaio, PCG-FX190K. > > sid > scowles@infogen.ws > > =========================================== > > Thursday, 21 June 2001, 04:12:57, you wrote: > > SS> From: Suhaib Siddiqi > SS> To: "'S. Cowles'" , > SS> "'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'" > SS> Subject: RE: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and > cygwin 1.3.2-1 > SS> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:12:57 -0400 > > SS> Can you try Cygwin1.dll from one of the latest Cygwin > Development snapshots? > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 21 15:19:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:19:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" Message-ID: Mark, Nice work! Way to step up to the plate and take care of business! Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 21 15:27:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:27:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again Message-ID: Fricke, > after working for 3 hours the keyboard is losing it????s focus so hard that > I always have to kill the xterm because I can????t work anymore. I'd love to help, but I am a very slow thinker. :) I can only help when I have a perfectly defined test case, with the steps needed to reproduce it. Give me a test case, and I'll try to give you a hand... Harold From rzeller@efn.org Thu Jun 21 15:38:00 2001 From: rzeller@efn.org (Ralph Zeller) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:38:00 -0000 Subject: installation under winME Message-ID: <2.2.32.20010621223942.0114f45c@pop.efn.org> Roger, Xfree works fine for me using Win98 and WinME. It works so well, in fact, that I'm going to give up using vnc to get into my Linux box. I've tried it with several different machines, even a '486. A lot of programs made for X will compile and run on windows. I've been using icewm, which is what I prefer on Linux. Keep fussing with it, it's worth the effort. All I did is install everything according to the users guide. But then you have to tweak the startup scripts to your liking. For example, here is what I am using to start X from a cygwin prompt: #!/bin/sh #This file is named mystartx #put this in your path where bash can find it, like /usr/X11R6/bin #local WinME box is 192.168.4.51 #Linux server is 192.168.4.8 XWin -screen 0 800x556x16 -query 192.168.4.8 -from 192.168.4.51 & If you put that command in a one file, and name it "mystartx", then you can call it from a batch file like this: rem This file is named mystart.bat set path=c:\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\X11r6\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\l ocal\bin;%path% C: bash.exe mystartx On my RedHat 6.x system, I had to add this line to /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess %hostlist 192.168.4.51 I'm no expert, but this got me started at least... Ralph At 07:39 PM 6/21/2001 +0200, "Roger Wenham" wrote: >Hi, > >Having watched and posted for a while, there seems to be a common theme >that some people, (including me) cannot get Xfree to work on WindowsME and >Win98. > >To sum up: >Using startx, the client waits forever for the server to start accepting >connections. >A window does appear, and the cursor works, but thats it. > >As suggested, I and others have tried using both 127.0.0.1 and the ethernet >address of the >machine, to no avail. >The exported DISPLAY variable is OK. > >I have tried starting it from the batch file, a shell file supplied by >Suhaib, and from the command line. >All methods show the same result. > >As to the version, I am using the latest version available of both cygwin >and Xfree. Just this >morning I deleted Xfree and reinstalled it with the latest downloadable >version, no change. > >I guess everyone is very frustrated, I know I am, but I am determined to get >to the bottom of this... > >Some questions: > What port does the server listen on? > When the server opens and binds its socket, where does it get the >address and port from? > Given the description of the Xserver window above, ho far is it through >it's initialisation? > Should I stop waisting my time and wait for a later release (i.e.What >stage of development is Xfree at)? > >Regards to everyone.... > Roger > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jun 21 17:16:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:16:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" References: Message-ID: <055901c0fab0$d6affde0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Mark, Are you aware that the GPL requires you to make your sources available if you distribute a binary? I think it's great that you've developed a patch for this, If you were to create patch and changelog and send it to cygwin-patches, it's probably small enough not to need a rights assignment. Then the "kernel folk" (Chris or Corrina for this one I think :]) will almost certainly look at it. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: Cc: "cygx" Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:19 AM Subject: RE: kernel patch for "Can't open display" > Mark, > > Nice work! > > Way to step up to the plate and take care of business! > > Harold > From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 21 19:32:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:32:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" References: <055901c0fab0$d6affde0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010621223305.E13746@redhat.com> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:18:17AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >Mark, > Are you aware that the GPL requires you to make your sources available >if you distribute a binary? > >I think it's great that you've developed a patch for this, If you were >to create patch and changelog and send it to cygwin-patches, it's >probably small enough not to need a rights assignment. Then the "kernel >folk" (Chris or Corrina for this one I think :]) will almost certainly >look at it. I'm sorry but this is not a fix. It's a workaround. I would not accept a patch which just made sockets ignore the close-on-exec problem. I applaud the fact that Mark took the time to figure out what was going on, though. That is extremely rare. It would be great if someone could figure out how to make this work correctly. cgf From mark@yangtze.cs.ucdavis.edu Thu Jun 21 21:12:00 2001 From: mark@yangtze.cs.ucdavis.edu (Mark) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:12:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" References: <055901c0fab0$d6affde0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: Just so no one gets their GPL bent out of shape.... the source code to the "fix" is at: http://zambezi.cs.ucdavis.edu/~mark/fhandler_socket.cc And as Chris said -- this is a "fix", not a patch. As I said in my first message, one of the folks who really knows the kernel should really figure out a patch that maintains semantic correctness. -Mark On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Robert Collins wrote: > Mark, > Are you aware that the GPL requires you to make your sources available > if you distribute a binary? > > I think it's great that you've developed a patch for this, If you were > to create patch and changelog and send it to cygwin-patches, it's > probably small enough not to need a rights assignment. Then the "kernel > folk" (Chris or Corrina for this one I think :]) will almost certainly > look at it. > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold Hunt" > To: > Cc: "cygx" > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:19 AM > Subject: RE: kernel patch for "Can't open display" > > > > Mark, > > > > Nice work! > > > > Way to step up to the plate and take care of business! > > > > Harold > > > > From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Thu Jun 21 22:58:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:58:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 Message-ID: Hi, Harold >1) Add desired display depth vs. current display depth as criteria >for whether to change the video mode when using a DirectDraw engine in >fullscreen. Great, it works much better now :-) >2) Add experimental support for a real PseudoColor visual. Toggled >on and off with WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT in win.h. The colors are completely different than in 32bit mode - do you want some screen captures? >3) Add DirectDraw return values to error messages for failed function >calls in winshaddd.c and winshadddnl.c. >4) The StaticColor colormap only had 20 colors when using the GDI >engine. Create the colormap with all 256 colors in the default GDI >palette, and set the shadow DIB palette to the default GDI palette so >that all colors in the colormap display correctly. In other words, >fix the StaticColor support when using the GDI engine. I'm not sure I understand :-( >Enjoy, > >Harold I do:-) When I see the problem with desktop refreshing - is that hard work to make workspace transparent, when no backround picture is selected? Pavel From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Thu Jun 21 23:01:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:01:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again Message-ID: Do you mean something like SET CLOCALE=c; \cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\xxxxx in startx.bat file? Doesn't work... :-( Pavel Suhaib Siddiqi To: Sent by: cc: "'cygx'" cygwin-xfree-owner@sources. Subject: RE: Some problems - again redhat.com 21.06.2001 13:05 > > And the question again - HOW TO TELL THE XSERVER TO CHANGE > LOCALE? I know > > how to change kayboard layout, but HOW TO TELL XSERVER TO > USE 8859-2 FONTS > > (Latin-2 - Central and Eastern Europe) instead of 8859-1 (Latin 1 > > - Western > > Europe and USA, I guess)? Is this possible? > > I have no idea :( Like I have said before, I am a terrible X user. > > Harold > You can try setting LOCALE at Windows level... like we do for XkeysymDB i.e. CLOCALE=c;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\xxxxx Suhaib From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Fri Jun 22 00:35:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:35:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again References: Message-ID: <3B32F56A.3696D49@team.owl-online.de> Ok Harold... only for you I try to give you the full power ;-) : Working with a W2k-machine and starting cygwin/XFree from startxwin.bat with the following options: @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\ start XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 start /B xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -c '/usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap.exe xmodmap.de;xhost.exe 10.101.1.121;/bin/rsh.exe -l cord 10.101.1.121 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -display 10.101.1.120:0 -e nohup /usr/bin/kde2&"' Then my Xserver is starting and KDE is starting too. I can work with all X-Options and it is fast and great and everything... I can????t cut and paste with my Logitech MouseMan Whell (cordless) but there is a workaround with shift+insert. I have Virtual Desktops on my W2K and after working on KDE and switching to.. maybe Netscape on Windows or any Win-Programm and then switching back to KDE the Xterm doesn????t recognize any keyboard-pressure... I can open a new shell and work fine but I have to kill the old XTerm because it????s not possible to work with it. I think cygwin/XFree is one of the best ways to work from a Windows machine on a Linux-Environment. And with my KDE-Session I have all the features I need (and more ;-)). Only this two little problems with my mouse and my keyboard are turning the colour a little bit grey, know what I mean? ; -) Harold Hunt schrieb: > Fricke, > > > after working for 3 hours the keyboard is losing it????s focus so hard that > > I always have to kill the xterm because I can????t work anymore. > > I'd love to help, but I am a very slow thinker. :) I can only help when I > have a perfectly defined test case, with the steps needed to reproduce it. > Give me a test case, and I'll try to give you a hand... > > Harold -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Fri Jun 22 03:01:00 2001 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:01:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 References: Message-ID: <0c5d01c0fb02$e948e9b0$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Hi Harold, I've tried you test 34 for pseudocolor. Bad news, it doesn't work better than the test26. Colors are different, but not good at all. I can't modify the palette (loading a new palette doesn't do anything). If another window wants another palette, colors change (in VNC too), but clicking again in XWin doesn't give the color back (it does in VNC). I've put the snapshots, and the result of xdpyinfo for VNC and Xwin (same test26 and 34). CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "cygx" Sent: jeudi 21 juin 2001 21:19 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > I just posted Test 34 to my server development page: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ > > Server binary, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test34.exe.bz2 (1042 KB) > > Server source, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010621-1500.tar.bz2 (62 KB) > > Changes: > > 1) Add desired display depth vs. current display depth as criteria > for whether to change the video mode when using a DirectDraw engine in > fullscreen. > > 2) Add experimental support for a real PseudoColor visual. Toggled > on and off with WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT in win.h. > > 3) Add DirectDraw return values to error messages for failed function > calls in winshaddd.c and winshadddnl.c. > > 4) The StaticColor colormap only had 20 colors when using the GDI > engine. Create the colormap with all 256 colors in the default GDI > palette, and set the shadow DIB palette to the default GDI palette so > that all colors in the colormap display correctly. In other words, > fix the StaticColor support when using the GDI engine. > > Enjoy, > > Harold > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "cygx" Sent: jeudi 21 juin 2001 21:19 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > I just posted Test 34 to my server development page: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ > > Server binary, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test34.exe.bz2 (1042 KB) > > Server source, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010621-1500.tar.bz2 (62 KB) > > Changes: > > 1) Add desired display depth vs. current display depth as criteria > for whether to change the video mode when using a DirectDraw engine in > fullscreen. > > 2) Add experimental support for a real PseudoColor visual. Toggled > on and off with WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT in win.h. > > 3) Add DirectDraw return values to error messages for failed function > calls in winshaddd.c and winshadddnl.c. > > 4) The StaticColor colormap only had 20 colors when using the GDI > engine. Create the colormap with all 256 colors in the default GDI > palette, and set the shadow DIB palette to the default GDI palette so > that all colors in the colormap display correctly. In other words, > fix the StaticColor support when using the GDI engine. > > Enjoy, > > Harold > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 04:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:01:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DD1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Francis and all the users of the list, May I suggest please send binary attachments, screen shots, and log files etc directly to person who requested it. Some people (actually many on this list) do not like receiving attachments unless they ask. Just a friendly reminder before someone yells ;-) Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Francis VIVAT [ mailto:francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:06 AM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > > > Hi Harold, > > I've tried you test 34 for pseudocolor. > Bad news, it doesn't work better than the test26. > > Colors are different, but not good at all. > > I can't modify the palette (loading a new palette doesn't do > anything). > If another window wants another palette, colors change (in > VNC too), but > clicking again in XWin doesn't give the color back (it does in VNC). > > I've put the snapshots, and the result of xdpyinfo for VNC > and Xwin (same test26 > and 34). > > CU > . \)|(/ > . (o o) > . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > .(_| Francis VIVAT | > . | CETP-CNRS | > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) > . \---------------------------------------------------/ > . (_) (_) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold Hunt" > To: "cygx" > Sent: jeudi 21 juin 2001 21:19 > Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > > > > I just posted Test 34 to my server development page: > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ > > > > Server binary, direct link: > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin- > Test34.exe.bz2 (1042 KB) > > > > Server source, direct link: > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010621-1500.ta r.bz2 (62 KB) > > Changes: > > 1) Add desired display depth vs. current display depth as criteria > for whether to change the video mode when using a DirectDraw engine in > fullscreen. > > 2) Add experimental support for a real PseudoColor visual. Toggled > on and off with WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT in win.h. > > 3) Add DirectDraw return values to error messages for failed function > calls in winshaddd.c and winshadddnl.c. > > 4) The StaticColor colormap only had 20 colors when using the GDI > engine. Create the colormap with all 256 colors in the default GDI > palette, and set the shadow DIB palette to the default GDI palette so > that all colors in the colormap display correctly. In other words, > fix the StaticColor support when using the GDI engine. > > Enjoy, > > Harold > From goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr Fri Jun 22 04:14:00 2001 From: goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: no bash under Y2K Message-ID: <200106221112.NAA09525@cabs40.col.bsf.alcatel.fr> Hi, I ran Xfree86 under Y2K and When I start with startxwin.bat I have the following error : setegid(544):Invalid aegument setuuid(500):Invalid argument. setegid(544):invalid argument. rwsh appear but not bash under xfree86.Why? Thanks From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jun 22 04:22:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:22:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again References: Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz wrote: > > Do you mean something like SET CLOCALE=c; > \cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\xxxxx in startx.bat file? Doesn't work... I think there was a typo. Plese try replacing the ";" with ":" -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 3498080 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 04:24:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:24:00 -0000 Subject: no bash under Y2K Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DD2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:13 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re:no bash under Y2K > > > Hi, I ran Xfree86 under Y2K and When I start with > startxwin.bat I have the > following error : > > setegid(544):Invalid aegument > setuuid(500):Invalid argument. > setegid(544):invalid argument. Is that XF86 4.0.3? It comes from xterm and these are not errors. bash will not apear under XF86 itself, but you can use bash as your shell in xterm. Suhaib > > rwsh appear but not bash under xfree86.Why? > > Thanks > From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Fri Jun 22 04:26:00 2001 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:26:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DD1@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <0d0001c0fb0e$cd1c6d00$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Hi Suhaib, ok, you're right. Won't do it again. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Francis VIVAT'" Cc: Sent: vendredi 22 juin 2001 13:01 Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > > Francis and all the users of the list, > > May I suggest please send binary attachments, screen shots, and log files > etc directly to person who requested it. Some people (actually many on this > list) do not like receiving attachments unless they ask. Just a friendly > reminder before someone yells ;-) > > Thanks > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Francis VIVAT [ mailto:francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr ] > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:06 AM > > To: Harold Hunt > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > > > > > > Hi Harold, > > > > I've tried you test 34 for pseudocolor. > > Bad news, it doesn't work better than the test26. > > > > Colors are different, but not good at all. > > > > I can't modify the palette (loading a new palette doesn't do > > anything). > > If another window wants another palette, colors change (in > > VNC too), but > > clicking again in XWin doesn't give the color back (it does in VNC). > > > > I've put the snapshots, and the result of xdpyinfo for VNC > > and Xwin (same test26 > > and 34). > > > > CU > > . \)|(/ > > . (o o) > > . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > > .(_| Francis VIVAT | > > . | CETP-CNRS | > > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | > > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | > > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ > > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) > > . \---------------------------------------------------/ > > . (_) (_) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Harold Hunt" > > To: "cygx" > > Sent: jeudi 21 juin 2001 21:19 > > Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > > > > > > > I just posted Test 34 to my server development page: > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ > > > > > > Server binary, direct link: > > > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin- > Test34.exe.bz2 (1042 KB) > > > > > > Server source, direct link: > > > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010621-1500.ta > r.bz2 (62 KB) > > > > Changes: > > > > 1) Add desired display depth vs. current display depth as criteria > > for whether to change the video mode when using a DirectDraw engine in > > fullscreen. > > > > 2) Add experimental support for a real PseudoColor visual. Toggled > > on and off with WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT in win.h. > > > > 3) Add DirectDraw return values to error messages for failed function > > calls in winshaddd.c and winshadddnl.c. > > > > 4) The StaticColor colormap only had 20 colors when using the GDI > > engine. Create the colormap with all 256 colors in the default GDI > > palette, and set the shadow DIB palette to the default GDI palette so > > that all colors in the colormap display correctly. In other words, > > fix the StaticColor support when using the GDI engine. > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Harold > > > From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Fri Jun 22 04:35:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:35:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again Message-ID: >> Do you mean something like SET CLOCALE=c; >> \cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\xxxxx in startx.bat file? Doesn't work... >I think there was a typo. Plese try replacing the ";" with ":" I did, of course. And I tried replacing \ with / too. And another combinations. Doesn't help. Pavel From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 04:53:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:53:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DD3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz [ mailto:Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:33 AM > To: Alexander Gottwald > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: Some problems - again > > > > > > > >> Do you mean something like SET CLOCALE=c; > >> \cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\xxxxx in startx.bat file? Doesn't > work... > >I think there was a typo. Plese try replacing the ";" with ":" > > I did, of course. And I tried replacing \ with / too. And another > combinations. Doesn't help. > > Pavel > > and.... did you replace xxxx with a locale or you just put the xxxx ;-) e.g. SET CLOCALE=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\iso8859-9\XLC_LOCALE SET XLOCALE=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\iso8859-9\XLC_LOCALE Suhaib From David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com Fri Jun 22 05:34:00 2001 From: David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com (Billinghurst, David (CRTS)) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:34:00 -0000 Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Message-ID: <8D00C32549556B4E977F81DBC24E985D1B1ACF@crtsmail1.technol_exch.corp.riotinto.org> The 4.1.0 distribution file etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 is packaged differently to the rest of the distribution, as it is rooted at cygwin/. Easy to work around, but ... tar jtf etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 gives cygwin/ cygwin/etc/ cygwin/etc/X11/ cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/ cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Beforelight cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Bitmap .... From info@nwaltham.com Fri Jun 22 05:37:00 2001 From: info@nwaltham.com (Nicholas Waltham) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:37:00 -0000 Subject: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree Message-ID: <002e01c0fb18$261410d0$1b0dcaa8@fao.org> Hello All, I have Cygwin/Xfree running nicely under Windows NT. In fact I am using it to connect to a remote machine running Linux. I would like to be able to use the True type fonts on my computer, how do I do this? Thanks in Advance, Nicholas Waltham From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Fri Jun 22 06:04:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:04:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again Message-ID: That's needed? ... :-), (OK, just joking. ) Yes, I did, I also invoked commands set output-meta On set convert-meta Off at the bash prompt, as described in Harold's FAQ. No effect. Pavel and.... did you replace xxxx with a locale or you just put the xxxx ;-) e.g. SET CLOCALE=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\iso8859-9\XLC_LOCALE SET XLOCALE=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\iso8859-9\XLC_LOCALE Suhaib From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 22 10:08:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:08:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 References: Message-ID: Pavel, > Great, it works much better now :-) Good. > The colors are completely different than in 32bit mode - do you want some > screen captures? Yup. That is to be expected. A StaticColor visual has a colormap that cannot be changed by the X clients, thus, when an X client wants a particular color (e.g. light blue), it asks the X server what the closest match is (e.g. dark blue). There are only a limited number of colors, so most color requests won't be perfect matches. A PseudoColor visual allows the client to request that a particular color (e.g. light blue) be included in the colormap. There is still a limit on how many colors can be in the colormap. > When I see the problem with desktop refreshing - is that hard work to make > workspace transparent, when no backround picture is selected? Huh? I have no idea what you're asking. Remember, I'm slow, I need lots of information. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 22 10:21:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:21:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again References: <3B32F56A.3696D49@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: Fricke, > start XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 > start /B xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -c '/usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap.exe > xmodmap.de;xhost.exe 10.101.1.121;/bin/rsh.exe -l cord 10.101.1.121 > "/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -display 10.101.1.120:0 -e nohup /usr/bin/kde2&"' Try a simpler test case. Just launch an xterm, without connecting to a remote host, then do the desktop switch that causes xterm to ignore keyboard input. See if you can reproduce the behavior in that simpler situation. I doubt that this behavior takes three hours to show up; rather, I am guessing that there is some pattern of focus changes, or some total count of focus changes, that causes this behavior to show up. Try to reproduce all styles of focus changes, and try to produce lots of them, in order to figure out the circumstances that cause this behavior. Also, you could try launching a remote KDE session, using your usual commands, then walk away from the machine for several hours. When you come back, see if the problem has shown up without any user input. That would prove or disprove my theory that this is not time related. Any reason why you aren't using XDMCP? http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html > Then my Xserver is starting and KDE is starting too. > I can work with all X-Options and it is fast and great and everything... > > I can????t cut and paste with my Logitech MouseMan Whell (cordless) > but there is > a workaround with shift+insert. I saw that it was suggested to use the -emulate3button parameter, and you reported that it did not work. However, the parameter is actually -emulate3buttons, notice the 's'. Give that a try. In any case, you can always get the list of valid paremeters by running 'XWin -help' from an MS-DOS Prompt; the Cygwin/XFree86 specific parameters are at the bottom of the list. Good luck, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 22 10:29:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:29:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 References: <0c5d01c0fb02$e948e9b0$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Message-ID: Francis, > I've tried you test 34 for pseudocolor. > Bad news, it doesn't work better than the test26. I meant to imply that WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT is off by default. The "experimental" source code to which I referred is really just a framework for my ongoing PseudoColor efforts. The code is by no means complete. In any case, you haven't tested it unless you built your own server :) > I've put the snapshots, and the result of xdpyinfo for VNC and > Xwin (same test26 > and 34). Oh, to avoid being flamed by Cygwin/XFree86 list members, let me suggest to everyone here that they do not send email attachments to the list. Always send hyperlinks, or, if you have something that only I need to see, send the attachments privately to me, and I can put them on my website for others if you do not have a website to store place them at. :) Harold From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Fri Jun 22 10:40:00 2001 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:40:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 References: Message-ID: <116601c0fb43$10be2010$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Hi, sorry, I hadn't understood that I had to compile it. Couldn't you make a binary, say XWin-test34-pseudo or something like that ? Leaving the net for the weekend, so I'll take a look on monday. It seems that lot of things are worked on weekends around here ;-) Thanks. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Francis VIVAT" Cc: "cygx" Sent: vendredi 22 juin 2001 19:29 Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 > Francis, > > > I've tried you test 34 for pseudocolor. > > Bad news, it doesn't work better than the test26. > > I meant to imply that WIN_PSEUDO_SUPPORT is off by default. The > "experimental" source code to which I referred is really just a framework > for my ongoing PseudoColor efforts. The code is by no means complete. > > In any case, you haven't tested it unless you built your own server :) > > > I've put the snapshots, and the result of xdpyinfo for VNC and > > Xwin (same test26 > > and 34). > > Oh, to avoid being flamed by Cygwin/XFree86 list members, let me suggest to > everyone here that they do not send email attachments to the list. Always > send hyperlinks, or, if you have something that only I need to see, send the > attachments privately to me, and I can put them on my website for others if > you do not have a website to store place them at. :) > > Harold > > From Andreas.Vogler@geneon.de Fri Jun 22 11:04:00 2001 From: Andreas.Vogler@geneon.de (Andreas Vogler) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:04:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin-Test28.exe Message-ID: <000101c0fb45$b01d4f80$0bc0a8c0@nbg.geneon.de> >On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 06:47:38AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: >> This is still refering to Tests, though in this case older one. >> Has anyone seen negative edge problem with releases 4.1.0 binaries >> from Cygwin/XFree86. Maybe I am missing something here. >> >I've not seen it myself. But we could really do with a test case. >Can someone who has seen this problem give a little explanation on what >they did for the Xserver to crash this way.... > >Then I can debug here. > >Thanks. Alan. Maybe a little late but I have experienced the same problem ("Fatal server error: negative sized edge?"). In my case it is the official 4.1.0 binaries as X-Terminal with a Linux box as an application server (using XDMCP). My observation was that most X clients have no problem but especially KDE tools crash the server reproduceable (all KDE clients!). I'm not sure whether this is related to a special font KDE is using or the KDE system itself. Hope this helps Bye Andreas From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 12:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:02:00 -0000 Subject: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DD9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> X has its own fonts. If you can convert your fonts to pcf format you can use them with X. Or you can use Freetype as a substitute for TT fonts. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Waltham [ mailto:info@nwaltham.com ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:37 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree > > > Hello All, > I have Cygwin/Xfree running nicely under Windows NT. In fact > I am using it to connect to a remote machine running > Linux. I would like to be able to use the True type fonts on > my computer, how do I do this? > > Thanks in Advance, > Nicholas Waltham > > From cgf@redhat.com Fri Jun 22 12:27:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:27:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" References: <055901c0fab0$d6affde0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20010622152823.A16452@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:30:05PM -0700, Mark wrote: > >Just so no one gets their GPL bent out of shape.... the source code to >the "fix" is at: > > http://zambezi.cs.ucdavis.edu/~mark/fhandler_socket.cc > >And as Chris said -- this is a "fix", not a patch. As I said in my first >message, one of the folks who really knows the kernel should really >figure out a patch that maintains semantic correctness. It doesn't take someone who knows the "kernel". It requires someone who knows about the winsock2 api. cgf From info@nwaltham.com Fri Jun 22 13:31:00 2001 From: info@nwaltham.com (Nicholas Waltham) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:31:00 -0000 Subject: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DD9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <003c01c0fb5a$77459090$9865fea9@serverhost> Hello Suhaib, Thanks for your message. Do you have any links which might point me to resources to convert fonts or use FreeType? Thanks in advance, Nicholas Waltham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Nicholas Waltham'" ; Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: RE: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree > > X has its own fonts. If you can convert your fonts to pcf format you can > use them with X. Or you can use Freetype as a substitute for TT fonts. > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nicholas Waltham [ mailto:info@nwaltham.com ] > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:37 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > Subject: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree > > > > > > Hello All, > > I have Cygwin/Xfree running nicely under Windows NT. In fact > > I am using it to connect to a remote machine running > > Linux. I would like to be able to use the True type fonts on > > my computer, how do I do this? > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > Nicholas Waltham > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 13:36:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:36:00 -0000 Subject: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DDD@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Freetype are part of Xfree86. Also have a look at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 And no I do not a link to convert ttf to pcf. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Waltham [ mailto:info@nwaltham.com ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:33 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree > > > Hello Suhaib, > Thanks for your message. Do you have any links which might point me to > resources > to convert fonts or use FreeType? > > Thanks in advance, > Nicholas Waltham > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: "'Nicholas Waltham'" ; > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:59 PM > Subject: RE: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree > > > > > > X has its own fonts. If you can convert your fonts to pcf > format you can > > use them with X. Or you can use Freetype as a substitute > for TT fonts. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Nicholas Waltham [ mailto:info@nwaltham.com ] > > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:37 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > > Subject: Trutype fonts under cygwin-xfree > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > I have Cygwin/Xfree running nicely under Windows NT. In fact > > > I am using it to connect to a remote machine running > > > Linux. I would like to be able to use the True type fonts on > > > my computer, how do I do this? > > > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > > Nicholas Waltham > > > > > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 13:40:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:40:00 -0000 Subject: Some problems - again Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DDF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz [ mailto:Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:03 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: 'cygx' > Subject: RE: Some problems - again > > > > That's needed? ... :-), (OK, just joking. ) > > Yes, I did, I also invoked commands > > set output-meta On > > > set convert-meta Off > > > at the bash prompt, as described in Harold's FAQ. No effect. > > I do not know... anyone else has any idea? Suhaib > > > > Pavel > > > > > > > and.... did you replace xxxx with a locale or you just put > the xxxx ;-) > e.g. > SET CLOCALE=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\iso8859-9\XLC_LOCALE > SET XLOCALE=c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\locale\iso8859-9\XLC_LOCALE > Suhaib > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 13:43:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DE0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:34 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > The 4.1.0 distribution file etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 is packaged > differently to > the rest of the distribution, as it is rooted at cygwin/. yes, because /etc/X11 is needed to which many symlinks from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 points. > Easy to work > around, but ... > > tar jtf etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 gives What happen if you used tar xvf tc-x11-vtwm.tar after bunziping? Suhaib > > cygwin/ > cygwin/etc/ > cygwin/etc/X11/ > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/ > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Beforelight > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Bitmap > .... > From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Fri Jun 22 13:53:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:53:00 -0000 Subject: kernel patch for "Can't open display" References: <055901c0fab0$d6affde0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <20010622152823.A16452@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010622225342.G1647@cobold.toronto.redhat.com> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 03:28:23PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:30:05PM -0700, Mark wrote: > > > >Just so no one gets their GPL bent out of shape.... the source code to > >the "fix" is at: > > > > http://zambezi.cs.ucdavis.edu/~mark/fhandler_socket.cc > > > >And as Chris said -- this is a "fix", not a patch. As I said in my first > >message, one of the folks who really knows the kernel should really > >figure out a patch that maintains semantic correctness. > > It doesn't take someone who knows the "kernel". It requires someone who > knows about the winsock2 api. I just checked in a small piece of code which I assume could be a "patch". Basically it does the same thing as before when we're using winsock1.1 while it just skips duplicating the socket handle when running winsock2. Sockets are not inherited automatically in winsock2 but by calling an WSADuplicateSocket/ WSASocket pair explicitly. That means, it should be sufficient to just set the close_on_exec flag. The `fixup_after_exec' stuff then simply releases the corresponding fhandler. This skips duplicating the handle (which seems to be the reason for the "open display" problem) while it still should correctly drop the fhandler when close_on_exec is set. Could a few people please test the next developers snapshot (or build from CVS themselves)? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Fri Jun 22 14:12:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:00 -0000 Subject: thread safe libs? Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20010622171217.0193f008@pilot.msu.edu> I have read through the archives, and I see that you say you were able to get XFree to compile thread safe... I understand the Windows managers will fail, but I am more interested in having the libraries being thread safe. If I compile Xfree as thread safe, should it work for me? Is it easy to accomplish? Do I just add something like THREAD_SAFE to the config file? Thanks, Brian From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 16:06:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:06:00 -0000 Subject: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3. 2-1 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DE2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Cowles [ mailto:scowles@infogen.ws ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 5:42 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: Re[4]: problems with XWin.exe under win2k/sp2 and cygwin 1.3. > 2-1 > > > SS> OK, then maybe try the latest Harold Test34? > SS> Suhaib > > 14:37:40 [510] BUBO6:cygwin-others/xfree86% r . > ./XWin-Test34.exe > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > 14:37:46 [512] BUBO6:cygwin-others/xfree86% > > I've also tried reseting the screen size down to 1024x768, but that > had no > effect, either. > > Any ideas on something else I could do to bughunt this? > > Thanks very much for the help. > > sid I think you are doing something basically wrong. No screen found usually occurs if you do not use one of the following commands Xwin :0 (at least, after export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 Or XWin -screen 0 1024x768 Suhaib PS: keep replies to the list please. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jun 22 16:08:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:08:00 -0000 Subject: thread safe libs? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DE3@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Genisio [ mailto:genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:15 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: thread safe libs? > > I have read through the archives, and I see that you say you were able > to > get XFree to compile thread safe... No I do not call it Xfree86 thread safe. We do not know yet what other bugs exists. Therefore IT IS NOT THREAD SAFE, only compilation does not mean it works. I understand the Windows managers > will > fail, but I am more interested in having the libraries being thread > safe. If I compile Xfree as thread safe, should it work for me? Is > it > easy to accomplish? Do I just add something like THREAD_SAFE to the > config > file? 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From Axel.Boldt@metrostate.edu Fri Jun 22 19:31:00 2001 From: Axel.Boldt@metrostate.edu (Axel Boldt) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:31:00 -0000 Subject: Docu fixes Message-ID: Hello, thanks everybody for this wonderful new toy. Everything works fine for me, but I encountered a couple of minor bugs/omissions in the docs, and here they are. I'm running 4.1.0 on Win98 and am looking at the FAQ at http://xfree86.cygwin.com/faq.html , the user's guide at http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/howto/cygwin-xfree-ug.html and the README at ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu/pub/cygwin/xfree/Readme * The "out of environment space" fix with shell=C:\command.com /e:4096 /p should be mentioned in the installation section of the User's guide. * The download list in the user manual should list the doc and man packages as optional. * The XWin man page does not explain the syntax of the -screen option correctly: we need -screen number WidthxHeightxColordepth. It's correct in the user's guide. * The "invalid switch - /B" issue in startxwin.bat should be mentioned somewhere (Win 98 doesn't allow that switch). Workaround: either remove /B and live with lots of window clutter, or edit starxwin.sh and start your X server with a batch file containing the line bash \cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\starxwin.sh and add \cygwin\bin and \cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to your PATH variable in autoexec.bat * Installation and use of vtwm should be explained somewhere. * starxwin.sh shouldn't use vtwm by default. * Chapter 3 of the user's manual should make clear that you have to edit the XWin line in the startxwin.bat script. The alternative starxwin.sh should be mentioned. * If startxwin.bat gives an error message (for instance because of a faulty -screen option to XWin), the error message and options scroll by too rapidly and there is no way to retrieve them. Some workaround should be explained. * Most horrible of all: xeyes seems to be broken. Again, thank you all very much for your hard work. Cheers, Axel From jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com Fri Jun 22 21:53:00 2001 From: jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com (Jeff Chua) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:53:00 -0000 Subject: X securitypolicy eror on Win98 Message-ID: <001701c0fba0$96c4e880$b9c9a19b@boston> How can I fix this problem when I start X with "startxwin.bat"? error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Thanks, Jeff [ jchua@fedex.com ] From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 23 04:31:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:31:00 -0000 Subject: X securitypolicy eror on Win98 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DE5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Chua [ mailto:jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com ] > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 12:53 AM > To: CygWin XFree > Cc: Jeff Chua > Subject: X securitypolicy eror on Win98 > > How can I fix this problem when I start X with "startxwin.bat"? > > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy open Cygwin bash shell then cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver touch SecurityPolicy Suhaib > > Thanks, > Jeff > [ jchua@fedex.com ] From jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com Sat Jun 23 09:04:00 2001 From: jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com (Jeff Chua) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:04:00 -0000 Subject: X securitypolicy eror on Win98 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DE5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <001d01c0fbfe$3d34a860$a15812bc@boston> ok, thanks. I copied one from my linux partition and it works too. X is now working on my Win98 2nd Edition. I had to remove "/b" from the "start" command in startxwin.bat to make it work. Xdm works too. I can "xv" and display the graphics perfectly. A bit slow, but it works. Only problem is when I tried to display an application that fill the whole screen, it bomb up! -------------------------------------------------- C:\Windows>c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin\xwin.exe -query ibmsvr -ac -screen 0 800x600x16 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Windowed, command line depth: 16, using depth: 24 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () Fatal server error: <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error negative sized edge? <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error C:\Windows> -------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Jeff [ jchua@fedex.com ] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'CygWin XFree'" Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: RE: X securitypolicy eror on Win98 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Chua [ mailto:jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com ] > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 12:53 AM > To: CygWin XFree > Cc: Jeff Chua > Subject: X securitypolicy eror on Win98 > > How can I fix this problem when I start X with "startxwin.bat"? > > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy open Cygwin bash shell then cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver touch SecurityPolicy Suhaib > > Thanks, > Jeff > [ jchua@fedex.com ] From kwong@control.toronto.edu Sat Jun 23 09:59:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:59:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505D9C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20010623130452.A16140@thor.control.toronto.edu> OK, finally I am getting some information which I hope will help. I uninstalled winsock2, using the batch file in the ws2bakup directory (the winsock backup directory). I ran startx after that. This is the message I got: _X11TransSocketOpen: socket() failed for local _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for local _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for local/bragi.control.utoronto.ca:0 This message repeats until I hit CTRL-C. With that, the message repeat one more time, and the following is appended at the end: ../usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Addresses in the specified family cannot be used with this socket (errno 106): unexpected signal 2. Let me know what I should try next. I hope it would be something less than reinstalling networking! Raymond On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:54:22AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > The only thing I have noticed so far between the working and the > > non-working win95 systems is that the non-working one has winsock > > upgraded, to version 2 I believe. Don't know if this is relevant, just > > another tidbit for you to consider. > > > > Thank you, Suhaib and Harold, for all your efforts. Although I have 2 > > non-working installations, I have 4 working ones, 1 win95a, 1 win98, 2 > > w2k. I must say they look good. > > > > I am going to wipe out win95 on one of the non-working machines and > > install win98, and then cygwin and X. We'll see what happens. I still > > have the other non-working machine to try out your new suggestions, > > including possibly reinstalling networking, if that is felt to be the > > most likely cause. > > > Winsock2 can be problem here. When winsock2 was released as an optional > package for Windows95, I remember installing then replacing it with Winsock > which shipped with Win95. Because it > was giving problems on Windows95. > > If you uninstall Networking from Control Panel and reinstall it using your > Windows95, Winsock2 will be replaced with Winsock from Win95 CD. It might > help. Let us know. > > Suhaib > > > > > Raymond > > From blicher@home.com Sat Jun 23 18:12:00 2001 From: blicher@home.com (A. Peter Blicher) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: bug: startxwin.bat assumes absolute path for /cygwin Message-ID: <20010624011206.DYYM13318.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@CC67033-A> In the distribution I just downloaded, xfree 4.0.3, startxwin.bat says: SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin This assumes that the root directory is \cygwin. But it might not be. It could be installed anywhere. As a consequence, the first error is that the cygwin dll's cannot be found. --peter -- A. Peter Blicher blicher@home.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 23 19:57:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:57:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 35 (PseudoColor support) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 35 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test35.exe.bz2 (1043 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010623-2225.tar.bz2 (63 KB) Changes: 1) PseudoColor support is now enabled, albeit with lots of caveats. Caveats: 1) PseudoColor is only supported by the GDI blitter (-engine 1), so you have to pass the '-engine 1' parameter to XWin.exe. 2) PseudoColor is only supported when Windows is running in 256 color mode (8 bit color); the GDI engine cannot change the Windows display depth, so you must be running Windows in 256 color mode before starting XWin.exe. 3) There are plenty of situations that cause the colors displayed by Cygwin/XFree86 to become garbled. 4) Test35 has been tested only on Windows 2000. There is no reason why Test35 should not run on the other versions of Windows, but I would appreciate some quick feedback on whether Test35 functions on Windows 95, 98, Me, and NT 4.0 when running Windows in 256 color mode and passing '-engine 1' to XWin.exe. Comments: I have tested the PseudoColor support with Magic 7.1 and by running a remote KDE session. The colors are correct, as far as I can tell. A lot of work remains to be done to complete the PseudoColor support, but I figured I would make this release to see if I am on the right track. Release early, release often. The source code is currently specific to the GDI engine and will need to be abstracted to add support for the DirectDraw engines. Enjoy, Harold From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Sat Jun 23 20:02:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Genisio) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:02:00 -0000 Subject: bug: startxwin.bat assumes absolute path for /cygwin References: <20010624011206.DYYM13318.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@CC67033-A> Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20010623225826.01e6dd58@pilot.msu.edu> Hmmm... I'd hardly call that a bug... more the nature of a start script. Start scripts for just about any product are mere suggestions... the executable is the actual product, and assumes defaults values, unless you specify differently. How might the script know where to find the dll without telling it? It assumes it is in the \cygwin directory, because that is the default and suggested place for cygwin to be installed... if you dont install cygwin there, all scripts and execs that assume the default values have to be changed to reflect the stray from the default. Brian At 06:12 PM 6/23/2001 -0700, you wrote: >In the distribution I just downloaded, xfree 4.0.3, startxwin.bat says: > >SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > >This assumes that the root directory is \cygwin. But it might not be. It >could be installed anywhere. > >As a consequence, the first error is that the cygwin dll's cannot be found. > >--peter > >-- >A. Peter Blicher >blicher@home.com From David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com Sat Jun 23 20:22:00 2001 From: David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com (Billinghurst, David (CRTS)) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:22:00 -0000 Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Message-ID: <8D00C32549556B4E977F81DBC24E985D1B1AD2@crtsmail1.technol_exch.corp.riotinto.org> I see the same thing if I bunzip then untar. I understand the need for the /etc heirarchy. I don't understand the need for the leading cygwin/ in the filenames in etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2. I ended up with these files in /cywin/cygwin/etc/... as I untarred all the *.tar.bz2 files from /. > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [SMTP:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:42 AM > To: Billinghurst, David (CRTS); 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:34 AM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > The 4.1.0 distribution file etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 is packaged > > differently to > > the rest of the distribution, as it is rooted at cygwin/. > > yes, because /etc/X11 is needed to which many symlinks from > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 points. > > > > Easy to work > > around, but ... > > > > tar jtf etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 gives > > What happen if you used tar xvf tc-x11-vtwm.tar after bunziping? > > > Suhaib > > > > > cygwin/ > > cygwin/etc/ > > cygwin/etc/X11/ > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/ > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Beforelight > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Bitmap > > .... > > From holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de Sun Jun 24 01:34:00 2001 From: holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de (Holger Vogt) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:34:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 35 (PseudoColor support) References: Message-ID: <3B35A75F.F38D0DFA@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> Hi Harold, PseudoColor is running on Windows98 (first edition) locally. Colors seem to be correct (Magic 7.1). However color is only on when the curser is inside the Magic7.1 graphics window. If you move it outside, the window turns black inside the twm frame. Color to black switches immediately if the cursor crosses the window border. Holger This is my start script: @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin cd c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin start XWin-Test35 -screen 0 1024 768 -emulate3buttons 50 -engine 1 run twm run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black run xmodmap ../lib/x11/etc/xmodmap.de From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 24 01:46:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:46:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 35 (PseudoColor support) References: <3B35A75F.F38D0DFA@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> Message-ID: Holger, > Colors seem to be > correct (Magic 7.1). > However color is only on when the curser is inside the Magic7.1 > graphics window. > If you move it outside, the window turns black inside the twm > frame. Color to > black switches immediately if the cursor crosses the window border. That is the expected behaviour. It may be possible to handle this better, but I haven't yet come up with a good method. Let me know if you do :) Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 24 14:16:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:16:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 36 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 36 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test36.exe.bz2 (1046 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010624-1656.tar.bz2 (64 KB) Changes: 1) Changed the PseudoColor whitePixel location from 255 to 1, which allows Magic 7.1 to use the default colormap, as opposed to creating its own. This prevents colormap changes when moving into and out of the Magic window, which keeps the window viewable when the focus is in another X window. 2) Brought the experimental Native GDI support back from the dead by setting up Pixmap privates and GC privates so that the global device context handles could be gotten rid of. Actually, the global handles were long since gone, as the code that used them was #if 0'd out. I managed to change the drawing logic in the process, so the code now only draws a white window, whereas before it was drawing the X hatched background. 3) Rewrote the winFinishScreenInitNativeGDI () procedure so that it defers most of the default setup work to miScreenInit (). 4) Added winnativegdi.c, which includes functions to fit the Native GDI support into the current engine framework. Enjoy, Harold From frachel@navisys.com Sun Jun 24 17:11:00 2001 From: frachel@navisys.com (Frank Rachel) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:11:00 -0000 Subject: Is unsubscribe working? Message-ID: <03F2F5D9DAF3D411BC460002B328A2EDD1CED1@njed-exch-02.navisys.com> I've unsubscribed from the list at least 3 times in the last 10 days, but am still getting messages.. Who should I talk to? From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sun Jun 24 20:20:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: Is unsubscribe working? References: <03F2F5D9DAF3D411BC460002B328A2EDD1CED1@njed-exch-02.navisys.com> Message-ID: <20010624232038.A27260@redhat.com> On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 08:10:48PM -0400, Frank Rachel wrote: >I've unsubscribed from the list at least 3 times in the last 10 days, but am >still getting messages.. Who should I talk to? http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html Click on the obvious link. cgf From BrassH@web.de Sun Jun 24 22:00:00 2001 From: BrassH@web.de (Harald Brass) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:00:00 -0000 Subject: XWin.exe commandline arguments -dpi and -xkbmap Message-ID: <000101c0fcf3$3316ab30$0101a8c0@buero> I desperately tried to start XWin.exe with the commandline arguments -dpi and -xkbmap, but no success. For -dpi xxx, I can enter any value (-dpi 100, -dpi 75, even -dpi 1), the XServer starts always in -dpi 100 mode (I tried dpyinfo). Maybe the -dpi argument is not implemented? For -xkbmap xxx, I tried several (valid) compiled xkb-maps to implement a german keyboard, but they were not loaded. The system always replies that the file could not be loaded and that it reverts to the default map. As a workaround I now use the xmodmap solution on the client (linux box) side, which works, but I had preferred to solve the problem on the XServer side where the german keyboard is located. Maybe the -xkbmap argument is not implemented as well? Thank you From BrassH@web.de Sun Jun 24 22:00:00 2001 From: BrassH@web.de (Harald Brass) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:00:00 -0000 Subject: XWin.exe bug? USER32.DLL could not be loaded. Message-ID: <000201c0fcf4$f76009e0$0101a8c0@buero> When I run XWin.exe for some time under heavy load (KDE desktop with Opera browser and multiple windows), I get an Windows NT error message that "USER32.DLL" could not be loaded. From this moment, no new programs can be started on the NT system, not even a DOS box (always same error message on missing USER32.DLL). It even does not help to log out and log on again to the NT system, the NT system must be completely restarted. I checked the M$ knowledgebase Q142676 which says that the error "USER32.DLL" is caused by an overflow of the desktop's heap. Maybe there are memory holes caused by XWin.exe? I tried the commandline arguments -ld 3000 and ls 1000 when starting XWin.exe, and up to now the problem has not come up again. But maybe I did not try it long enough to reproduce the error... Can anyone tell me what is the reason for this behaviour? From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Mon Jun 25 00:21:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:21:00 -0000 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again] Message-ID: <3B36E686.13CDBF09@team.owl-online.de> -------- Original Message -------- Betreff: Re: Keyboard is losing it????s focus again Datum: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:21:08 +0200 Von: "Cord-H. Fricke" Firma: OWL-Online GmbH & Co. KG An: Harold Hunt Referenzen: < NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCGEFFCHAA.huntharo@msu.edu > Harold Hunt schrieb: > Fricke, > > > start XWin -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 > > start /B xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -c '/usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap.exe > > xmodmap.de;xhost.exe 10.101.1.121;/bin/rsh.exe -l cord 10.101.1.121 > > "/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -display 10.101.1.120:0 -e nohup /usr/bin/kde2&"' > > Try a simpler test case. Just launch an xterm, without connecting to a > remote host, then do the desktop switch that causes xterm to ignore keyboard > input. See if you can reproduce the behavior in that simpler situation. I will trie that this afternoon > > > I doubt that this behavior takes three hours to show up; rather, I am > guessing that there is some pattern of focus changes, or some total count of > focus changes, that causes this behavior to show up. Try to reproduce all > styles of focus changes, and try to produce lots of them, in order to figure > out the circumstances that cause this behavior. I will try this if I have a little more time because I????m working in a production-environment and my cygwin-tries are only between the normal production time > > > Also, you could try launching a remote KDE session, using your usual > commands, then walk away from the machine for several hours. When you come > back, see if the problem has shown up without any user input. That would > prove or disprove my theory that this is not time related. the same as above ;-) > > > Any reason why you aren't using XDMCP? > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Hmmm, it????s a good idea to use XDMCP. But I don????t know how to use it... If I typ that string "XWin.ex -screen ... -query -from..." cygwin/XFree is starting... but nothing more happens... Did I have to do something on my Linux-Server? Or am I just to stupid to understand the problem? > > > > Then my Xserver is starting and KDE is starting too. > > I can work with all X-Options and it is fast and great and everything... > > > > I can????t cut and paste with my Logitech MouseMan Whell (cordless) > > but there is > > a workaround with shift+insert. > > I saw that it was suggested to use the -emulate3button parameter, and you > reported that it did not work. However, the parameter is > actually -emulate3buttons, notice the 's'. Give that a try. In any case, > you can always get the list of valid paremeters by running 'XWin -help' from > an MS-DOS Prompt; the Cygwin/XFree86 specific parameters are at the bottom > of the list. > Oh it was a typo? ;-) I know the correct spellness. But it also doesn????t work with one more 's' XWin -help from MS-DOS Prompt doesn????t work for me, because of cygwin1.dll is not found in blablabla (it is there, I sware)... > > Good luck, > > Harold -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Mon Jun 25 00:56:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:56:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 Message-ID: <3B36EECB.E9D7BFD8@team.owl-online.de> When downloading XWin-Test36.exe.bz2 and then decrompressing, my cygwin/bunzip2 tells me that the file is corrupt and can????t decompress it. Also bunzip2 is deleting the unpacked file... :-( What????s wrong?????? -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Mon Jun 25 01:02:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:02:00 -0000 Subject: Sooorrrryyy Message-ID: <3B36F02A.3BDF4BDD@team.owl-online.de> after getting the XWin-Test-file with wget and not with Netscape everythind is ok.... sorry... -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com Mon Jun 25 01:35:00 2001 From: jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com (Jeff Chua) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:35:00 -0000 Subject: X crash Message-ID: <001a01c0fd51$ed40d040$589ca19b@corp.fedex.com> I got XFree 4.1.0 installed and running on Win98SE. Xclock, xv, almost everything works, but when I tried to display an application that fill the whole screen, it bomb up! I even try to set "-screen 0 1280x768x16". Under Linux, even at 800x600, it worked. Any help is very much appreciated? Jeff -------------------------------------------------- C:\Windows>c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin\xwin.exe -query ibmsvr -ac -screen 0 800x600x16 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Windowed, command line depth: 16, using depth: 24 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () Fatal server error: <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error negative sized edge? <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error C:\Windows> -------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Jeff [ jchua@fedex.com ] From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Jun 25 01:50:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:50:00 -0000 Subject: X crash References: <001a01c0fd51$ed40d040$589ca19b@corp.fedex.com> Message-ID: <20010625095044.A880@valinux.com> What application is it that you run ? Alan. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 04:36:23PM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: > I got XFree 4.1.0 installed and running on Win98SE. > > Xclock, xv, almost everything works, but when I tried to display an > application that fill the whole screen, it bomb up! I even try to set > "-screen 0 1280x768x16". > > Under Linux, even at 800x600, it worked. > > Any help is very much appreciated? > > Jeff > -------------------------------------------------- > C:\Windows>c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin\xwin.exe -query ibmsvr -ac -screen 0 > 800x600x16 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Windowed, command line depth: 16, using > depth: > 24 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > Fatal server error: <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error > negative sized edge? <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error > > C:\Windows> > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > Thanks, > Jeff > [ jchua@fedex.com ] > > From jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com Mon Jun 25 02:19:00 2001 From: jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com (Jeff Chua) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 02:19:00 -0000 Subject: X crash References: <20010625095044.A880@valinux.com> Message-ID: a java application that "fill" up the whole screen. When the screen is 800x600, the application will try to maximize to 800x600, so something is breaking in X that causes it to crash. Thanks, Jeff [ jchua@fedex.com ] On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > What application is it that you run ? > > Alan. > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 04:36:23PM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: > > I got XFree 4.1.0 installed and running on Win98SE. > > > > Xclock, xv, almost everything works, but when I tried to display an > > application that fill the whole screen, it bomb up! I even try to set > > "-screen 0 1280x768x16". > > > > Under Linux, even at 800x600, it worked. > > > > Any help is very much appreciated? > > > > Jeff > > -------------------------------------------------- > > C:\Windows>c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin\xwin.exe -query ibmsvr -ac -screen 0 > > 800x600x16 > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Windowed, command line depth: 16, using > > depth: > > 24 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 800 height 600 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > > > Fatal server error: <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error > > negative sized edge? <<<<<<<<<<< here's the error > > > > C:\Windows> > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > [ jchua@fedex.com ] > > > > > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Jun 25 02:37:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 02:37:00 -0000 Subject: X crash References: <20010625095044.A880@valinux.com> Message-ID: <20010625103650.D880@valinux.com> On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 05:20:28PM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: > a java application that "fill" up the whole screen. When the screen is > 800x600, the application will try to maximize to 800x600, so something is > breaking in X that causes it to crash. > O.k, But we've had reports of this before and we need a repeatable test case for the developers to look into. So we need a copy of the application and the flags you start that application with and it's name. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 04:09:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:09:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again References: <3B36E664.37FEC98C@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: > I will trie that this afternoon Okay. > Hmmm, it????s a good idea to use XDMCP. But I don????t know how to use it... > If I typ that string "XWin.ex -screen ... -query -from..." cygwin/XFree is > starting... > but nothing more happens... Did I have to do something on my Linux-Server? > Or am I just to stupid to understand the problem? Most Linux boxes come with XDMCP running, but you have to be in the X run level (run level 5) in order for XDM to be listening for connections. If your Linux machine is not running in run level 5 (which is obvious if the login screen is running X), just login as root, and run 'init 5'. Your machine should then fire up XDM, and you should be able to login via XDMCP with Cygwin/XFree86. Let me know if that last bit works, as I'll add it to the documentation if it describes your situation. Harold From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Mon Jun 25 04:11:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:11:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again References: Message-ID: <3B371C6F.723AD856@team.owl-online.de> Ahhh... I know what you????re meaning... But our Linux-Box is coming up with gdm (gnomeDesktopmanager) I????ll try to add it... Harold Hunt schrieb: > > I will trie that this afternoon > > Okay. > > > Hmmm, it????s a good idea to use XDMCP. But I don????t know how to use it... > > If I typ that string "XWin.ex -screen ... -query -from..." cygwin/XFree is > > starting... > > but nothing more happens... Did I have to do something on my Linux-Server? > > Or am I just to stupid to understand the problem? > > Most Linux boxes come with XDMCP running, but you have to be in the X run > level (run level 5) in order for XDM to be listening for connections. If > your Linux machine is not running in run level 5 (which is obvious if the > login screen is running X), just login as root, and run 'init 5'. Your > machine should then fire up XDM, and you should be able to login via XDMCP > with Cygwin/XFree86. > > Let me know if that last bit works, as I'll add it to the documentation if > it describes your situation. > > Harold -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 04:14:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 References: Message-ID: Pavel, > I mean something like this: > (See attached file: screen1.jpg) I don't see Cygwin/XFree86 running in that screenshot. Cygwin/XFree86 always draws the "Cygwin/XFree86" window. Also, from the command prompt in the background, I can see that the depth is 32 bits, and the create default colormap function is deferring to 'fb', instead of using 'winCreateDefColormap'. So, what gives? > And - I have one bug (may be It's well-known) when I start XWin and switch > to another Windows application immediately (mouse click,, Alt+Tab), the > XWin does not start. I'll need the messages from XWin.exe... Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 04:16:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:16:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again References: <3B371C6F.723AD856@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: > Ahhh... I know what you????re meaning... > But our Linux-Box is coming up with gdm (gnomeDesktopmanager) > I????ll try to add it... Oh, you know, I remember coming across something about gdm not supporting XDMCP until very recently. It is likely that the version you have does not support XDMCP... Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 04:25:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:25:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 References: <3B36E664.37FEC98C@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: > When downloading XWin-Test36.exe.bz2 and then decrompressing, my > cygwin/bunzip2 tells me that the file is corrupt and can????t decompress > it. Also bunzip2 is deleting the unpacked file... :-( > What????s wrong?????? http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-bunzip2 Harold From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Mon Jun 25 04:28:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:28:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard is losing it´s focus again References: Message-ID: <3B372078.4D192BFE@team.owl-online.de> Now added xdm on another Linux-box. Starting XWin with -screen 0 800x600x16 -engine 4 -query 10.101.1.2 -from 10.101.1.120, (optionally with %ip_adress%) but two DOS-Windows are opening so fast... can????t read any errormessages... (I made an upgrade from XFree 4.0.3 to 4.1.0 still half an hour ago) I will use cygwin/XFree, but it????s so hard to learn it :-) Harold Hunt schrieb: > > Ahhh... I know what you????re meaning... > > But our Linux-Box is coming up with gdm (gnomeDesktopmanager) > > I????ll try to add it... > > Oh, you know, I remember coming across something about gdm not supporting > XDMCP until very recently. It is likely that the version you have does not > support XDMCP... > > Harold -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com Mon Jun 25 04:29:00 2001 From: jeff81@silk.corp.fedex.com (Jeff Chua) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:29:00 -0000 Subject: X crash References: <20010625103650.D880@valinux.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 05:20:28PM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: > > a java application that "fill" up the whole screen. When the screen is > > 800x600, the application will try to maximize to 800x600, so something is > > breaking in X that causes it to crash. > > > O.k, But we've had reports of this before and we need a repeatable test > case for the developers to look into. So we need a copy of the application and > the flags you start that application with and it's name. It's a company-internal application. Perhaps I can get the developer to just code the "frame" to get it to crash, and I'll send you the application. I start X using startxwin.bat ... start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -engine 4 start /m xterm -fn 7x14 -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -ls start /m xsetroot -solid midnightblue start /m twm Jeff From dfernan@nimr.mrc.ac.uk Mon Jun 25 05:08:00 2001 From: dfernan@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Dr. Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:08:00 -0000 Subject: problems with xfre 4.0.3 and WinME Message-ID: Hi all I am getting all the binaries etc for th3 4.0.3 xfree cygwin After all intallation etc I exec the following startwin I get a x display but just with black diagonal lines in it Have a look Any help will be apreciated Delmiro @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin REM SET XFCE_DATA=\cygwin\usr\X11R6\var; xfce REM *********THIS PART COMMENTED OUT. IF YOU WANT TO USE NOHUP, UNCOMMENT EVERYTHING AND COMMENT OUT START BELOW******** C:\Cygwin\bin\bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/bin/bash -c 'xwin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4'&""&" bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './xterm -sb -sl 2048 -font 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './mxterm -sb -sl 2048 -font 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './rxvt -fn 7x13bold -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './xfwm' &""&" REM ***************** TO USE WINDOWS START COMMAND********************* start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine 4 start rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e bash start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash REM start mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash start twm start mwm start vtwm set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? @echo on And I get the following nohup.out _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height 714 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height 714 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning ./xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 /usr/bin/bash: ./mxterm: No such file or directory rxvt: can't open display 127.0.0.1:0.0 /usr/bin/bash: ./xfwm: No such file or directory _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height 714 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes MD DPhil Division of Mathematical Biology National Institute for Medical Research The Ridgeway, Mill Hill, London, NW7 1AA, UK Phone 0208 9593666 ext 2632 From dfernan@nimr.mrc.ac.uk Mon Jun 25 05:13:00 2001 From: dfernan@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Dr. Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:13:00 -0000 Subject: SecurityPolicy Message-ID: Hi Where should i put the Security Policy file? Delmiro Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes MD DPhil Division of Mathematical Biology National Institute for Medical Research The Ridgeway, Mill Hill, London, NW7 1AA, UK Phone 0208 9593666 ext 2632 From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 05:23:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:23:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 Cross Compiling References: Message-ID: The many patches to allow cross compiling Cygwin/XFree86 under another operating system, say Linux, were checked into the XFree86 CVS tree this morning. Cross compiling Cygwin/XFree86 saves developers lots of time, as 'make World' completes in roughly 1/2 to 1/3 of the amount of time required to build on Cygwin proper, and it also lets developers get some good use out of their older hardware. --------------------------------------------------------- Example: Box-A has a P3-550, 256 MB of PC133 RAM, and a 5400 RPM ATA/66 HD. Box-B has an Athlon 1.2 GHz, 266 MHz FSB, 512 MB DDR PC2100 RAM, and a 7200 RPM ATA/100 HD. Box-A, running Windows 2000, used to take over 90 minutes to build; running Linux, Box-A now takes 30 minutes to build. Box-B has, so far, only run Windows 2000 and it takes 50 minutes to build. As you can see, I can now throw less than half of the hardware at building Cygwin/XFree86 and reduce the build time by 40%! Yippee! --------------------------------------------------------- I will be documenting the cross compilation process in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide within the next week or so. Thanks to Alexander Gottwald, Christopher Faylor, and Alan Hourihane for answering my many annoying questions about cross compiling. Extra special thanks to Alexander Gottwald for having the idea to cross compile and for taking the initial steps towards making it happen. Enjoy, Harold From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Jun 25 05:28:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:28:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 References: Message-ID: <007401c0fd72$930ff710$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> As a note: if a "corrupt file" is found due to netscape transparently uncompressing the file, renaming the file to .tar and untarring (no bz2) will possibly work - has anyone tried? Rib ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Cord-H. Fricke" ; "cygx" Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:25 PM Subject: RE: bunzip error on server test 36 > > When downloading XWin-Test36.exe.bz2 and then decrompressing, my > > cygwin/bunzip2 tells me that the file is corrupt and can????t decompress > > it. Also bunzip2 is deleting the unpacked file... :-( > > What????s wrong?????? > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-bunzi p2 > > Harold > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Jun 25 05:28:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:28:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 References: <007401c0fd72$930ff710$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <007c01c0fd72$a8887c70$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Sorry for noise: I'm blind=, you already suggest that! Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Collins" To: "Harold Hunt" ; "Cord-H. Fricke" ; "cygx" Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: Re: bunzip error on server test 36 > As a note: if a "corrupt file" is found due to netscape transparently > uncompressing the file, renaming the file to .tar and untarring (no bz2) > will possibly work - has anyone tried? > > Rib > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold Hunt" > To: "Cord-H. Fricke" ; "cygx" > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:25 PM > Subject: RE: bunzip error on server test 36 > > > > > When downloading XWin-Test36.exe.bz2 and then decrompressing, my > > > cygwin/bunzip2 tells me that the file is corrupt and can????t > decompress > > > it. Also bunzip2 is deleting the unpacked file... :-( > > > What????s wrong?????? > > > > > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-bunzi > p2 > > > > Harold > > > > > > From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Mon Jun 25 05:31:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:31:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 Message-ID: "Harold Hunt" .edu> cc: "cygx" Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 34 25.06.2001 13:14 >Pavel, >> I mean something like this: >> (See attached file: screen1.jpg) >I don't see Cygwin/XFree86 running in that screenshot. Cygwin/XFree86 >always draws the "Cygwin/XFree86" window. Also, from the command prompt in >the background, I can see that the depth is 32 bits, and the create default >colormap function is deferring to 'fb', instead of using >'winCreateDefColormap'. So, what gives? Sorry, here is small explanation. The Netscape window and the CDE Front Panel (that's the wide window ath the botom, with buttons One, Two, trancui and trancd) are running on my remote AIX machine, the rest is my Windows desktop (it should not be here, it's bug, simply the background isn't repainted). But I find very useful to see my Windows desktop on the background. >> And - I have one bug (may be It's well-known) when I start XWin and switch >> to another Windows application immediately (mouse click,, Alt+Tab), the >> XWin does not start. >I'll need the messages from XWin.exe... OK, it's here. But I guess there is no difference to succesfull case. Unsuccessful: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 18 i: 1 winAllocateScreenPrivates () - g_ulServerGeneration: 0 serverGeneration: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () InitInput () ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Successful: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 18 i: 1 winAllocateScreenPrivates () - g_ulServerGeneration: 0 serverGeneration: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () InitInput () winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - MapWindowPoints () failed winKeybdReleaseModifierKeys - Releasing VK_LMENU winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - MapWindowPoints () failed winKeybdReleaseModifierKeys - Releasing VK_LMENU ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I hope it helps. Pavel From goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr Mon Jun 25 06:52:00 2001 From: goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr (Jorge Goncalvez) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree & Y2k Message-ID: <200106251350.PAA21127@cabs40.col.bsf.alcatel.fr> Hi, I m using Cygwin/Xfree86 under y2k it works fine but I don't have the bash when I start startxwin.bat I have only rxvt and I have the following message: seteguid(544):Invalid argument seteuid(500): Invalid argument setuid(500): Invalid argument setguid(544):Invalid argument I can't also type setxkbmap.exe fr to have a azerty keyboard.Althougth it works good on NT. And finally Is there a port of DHCP client on Cygwin. Thanks From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Mon Jun 25 07:56:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:56:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Message-ID: <3B375153.FA86A5E2@team.owl-online.de> Hi, no starting with -from ip_adress -query ip_adress but it is giving me the follwing error: AUDIT:Date:1072:XWin:client 1 rejected from 'ip_adress' port 60280 (and counting higher) When starting with XServer from MI/X it works but the XServer from MI/X is not stable enough to run KDE. XDMCP from GDM runs on Port 177. What is that???? Thank you for your fast coming help ;-) -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From jwalker@matchlogic.com Mon Jun 25 07:58:00 2001 From: jwalker@matchlogic.com (Jeff Walker) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: modifier oddity Message-ID: <5FE9B713CCCDD311A03400508B8B30130A9185F2@bdr-xcln.corp.matchlogic.com> So does anyone have a comment on this problem that I am seeing. It is keeping me from using it. Am I the only one with the problem? Is this an FAQ that isn't on the FAQ? Does no one understand my problem description? Thanks. Sorry for posting an annoying follow-up. -- Jeff Walker MatchLogic, Inc. jwalker@matchlogic.com 7233 Church Ranch Blvd. Voice 1 (303) 222-2105 Westminster, CO 80021 Fax 1 (303) 222-2001 www.matchlogic.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Walker [ mailto:jwalker@matchlogic.com ] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:02 PM To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' Subject: modifier oddity sorry if this has been covered before, I have looked in the faq, the documentation and the list archives, but it didn't see anything, maybe I just missed it? Using xfree86 on my windows 2000 machine with the latest version of cygwin, looks like the modifiers (alt, shift, ctrl) don't work quite right. I am using "xev" to look at what's going on and I see that the modifiers send a keypress and keyrelease, but it does it constantly while I hold it down. On a xfree86 port to Alpha/OSF (vncserver) (same on Solaris vncserver), I see what a expect, a keypress event when I press the key, nothing until I release it, when I get the keyrelease event. This happens with the window manager on or off, all that is running is mxterm and xev. Thanks in advance. -- Jeff Walker MatchLogic, Inc. jwalker@matchlogic.com 7233 Church Ranch Blvd. Voice 1 (303) 222-2105 Westminster, CO 80021 Fax 1 (303) 222-2001 www.matchlogic.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 12:34:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:34:00 -0000 Subject: modifier oddity Message-ID: Jeff, > Using xfree86 on my windows 2000 machine with the latest version of cygwin, > looks like the modifiers (alt, shift, ctrl) don't work quite right. I am > using "xev" to look at what's going on and I see that the modifiers send a > keypress and keyrelease, but it does it constantly while I hold it down. On > a xfree86 port to Alpha/OSF (vncserver) (same on Solaris vncserver), I see > what a expect, a keypress event when I press the key, nothing until I > release it, when I get the keyrelease event. Point me to some justification for changing the current behaviour. The current behaviour is really easy because it just passes on the Windows keypress events (Windows generates the repeated events). Give me a really good explanation for why this is preventing you from using Cygwin/XFree86 as it is now. Your current lack of an explanation doesn't do much for your cause. I mean, I'm not exactly going to drop my beer and run inside to program just because somebody out there isn't using Cygwin/XFree86 because of bug X, missing feature Y, or failure to comply to standard Z. Sheesh... Of course, you could probably modify the source code to filter the multiple keypress events in less time than it would take you to come up with a good enough explanation to get me to act, but I digress... Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 12:35:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:35:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 References: <007c01c0fd72$a8887c70$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: Rob, > Sorry for noise: I'm blind=, you already suggest that! Yeah, but my favorite part about that answer is still the short answer: Short answer: the bzip2 files on the server are not corrupt. :-) Harold From kwong@control.toronto.edu Mon Jun 25 12:52:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:52:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <200106251956.PAA19217@thor.control.toronto.edu> I installed win98 over win95 on one of the PC on which X server would not start in win95a. I reinstalled cygwin and XWin. The X server started right away! I will probably install win98 on the other non-working win95 machine soon. I hope the problem with win95a I have described to you so far has been somewhat useful to you with respect to xfree86 development on cygwin. I certainly greatly appreciate your team's efforts. Keep up the good work! Raymond From holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de Mon Jun 25 13:28:00 2001 From: holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de (Holger Vogt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:28:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 36 References: Message-ID: <3B37A038.CCCB55A9@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> Hi Harold, now the colors stay on in a window with or without focus also in Windows98. When I minimize the whole xserver window and raise it again, colors may change slightly and can be repaired by "drawing" with the cursor. I just now have started Netscape with xwin minimized, and after raising it again, all window colors (xterm, MAGIC) change totally under the moving cursor. This happens only in 8bit mode, not in 32bit mode. A final feature request now is to put 8bit on top of 32bit, so the graphics card may stay with 32bit. Holger Harold Hunt schrieb: > Links: > > I just posted Test 36 to my server development page: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ > > Server binary, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test36.exe.bz2 (1046 KB) > > Server source, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010624-1656.tar.bz2 (64 KB) > > Changes: > > 1) Changed the PseudoColor whitePixel location from 255 to 1, which > allows Magic 7.1 to use the default colormap, as opposed to creating > its own. This prevents colormap changes when moving into and out of > the Magic window, which keeps the window viewable when the focus > is in another X window. > > 2) Brought the experimental Native GDI support back from the dead by > setting up Pixmap privates and GC privates so that the global device > context handles could be gotten rid of. Actually, the global handles > were long since gone, as the code that used them was #if 0'd out. I > managed to change the drawing logic in the process, so the code now > only draws a white window, whereas before it was drawing the X hatched > background. > > 3) Rewrote the winFinishScreenInitNativeGDI () procedure so that it > defers most of the default setup work to miScreenInit (). > > 4) Added winnativegdi.c, which includes functions to fit the Native > GDI support into the current engine framework. > > Enjoy, > > Harold From tom_gross@elytics.com Mon Jun 25 13:42:00 2001 From: tom_gross@elytics.com (Tom Gross) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:42:00 -0000 Subject: dtwm windows lose focus Message-ID: <3B37A331.F0B46A8B@elytics.com> I downloaded and installed Cygwin and XFree86 4.1.0 4 days ago (June 21, 2001). I am trying to use XFree86 to use my Windows 2000 machine as an XTerminal for a RS6000 machine running AIX. I want to use the AIX window manager "dtwm" on my Windows 2000 machine. "dtwm" looks like what I remember as the old Motif (OSF) Windows manager (back in the good old days). Things work pretty well, except that often the dtwm will stop taking input from my keyboard. The mouse works, and I can select menu items in dtwm and execute them with mouse clicks, and the space bar appears to work on the keyboard, otherwise nothing. This will almost always happen when I switch from my XFree86 display to a Windows 2000 window and back again (in other words, it's as though dtwm doesn't know I'm back). Something very odd: I am running Cygwin bash at the same time I am running the dtwm, and I have found that when dtwm stops reading the keyboard, I can fix that by popping the bash window to the top of the screen and then minimizing it again. On the other hand, a colleague of mine is trying to run the same configuration (possibly with an older version of Cygwin), and he can't get dtwm to read his keyboard at all (same behavior, echoes the space bar only), but popping his bash shell to to top does not fix the problem. Here is the process I use to run dtwm on the AIX machine: 1. Run bash (programs->cygnus solutions->cygwin bash shell) 2. Run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat (from Windows explorer - you can probably also do this from the bash shell but I haven't been doing that...) 3. In the bash shell: export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.x.xx:0 (the IP address of your local machine) /usr/x11r6/bin/xhost.exe + 4. startxwin.bat will have brought up an X display with a bash window. In that window, type: rlogin "aix machine name" -l your_unix_login It should prompt you for your password. 5. After logging into "aix machine name", type: export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.x.xx:0 (the IP address of your local machine, again) dtwm (launches the display manager). -- Tom Gross Elytics, Inc http://www.elytics.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 16:42:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:42:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DF9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Did you try xhost + ? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:57 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > Subject: XDMCP > > Hi, > > no starting with -from ip_adress -query ip_adress > but it is giving me the follwing error: > > AUDIT:Date:1072:XWin:client 1 rejected from 'ip_adress' port 60280 > (and > counting higher) > > When starting with XServer from MI/X it works but the XServer from > MI/X > is not stable enough to run KDE. > > XDMCP from GDM runs on Port 177. > What is that???? > > Thank you for your fast coming help ;-) > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gruessen > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 16:47:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:47:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree & Y2k Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DFB@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Goncalvez [ mailto:goncal11@col.bsf.alcatel.fr ] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:50 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Re:Xfree & Y2k > > Hi, I m using Cygwin/Xfree86 under y2k it works fine but I don't have > the bash > when I start startxwin.bat I have only rxvt and I have the following > message: > > seteguid(544):Invalid argument > seteuid(500): Invalid argument > setuid(500): Invalid argument > setguid(544):Invalid argument You can ignore them. These are only annoying warnings from xterm in 4.0.3. Or you could use XF86 4.1.0. Now what do you mean by you do not have abash? Do you not see rxvt and xterm? Use them, bash from Cygwin you can start separate from x-server. > > I can't also type setxkbmap.exe fr to have a azerty keyboard.Althougth > it works > good on NT. You need French xmodmap file from http://www.gotti.org . > > And finally Is there a port of DHCP client on Cygwin. I am not aware of it. You need to ask at Cygwin mailing (cygwin@cygwin.com)list if someone ported a DHCP client for Cygwin but why cant you use Windows DHCP? Suhaib > > > Thanks From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 16:49:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:49:00 -0000 Subject: SecurityPolicy Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DFC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:dfernan@nimr.mrc.ac.uk ] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:12 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: SecurityPolicy > > Hi > Where should i put the Security Policy file? > Delmiro > > Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes MD DPhil > Division of Mathematical Biology > National Institute for Medical Research > The Ridgeway, Mill Hill, London, NW7 1AA, UK > Phone 0208 9593666 ext 2632 in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 16:51:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:51:00 -0000 Subject: XWin.exe bug? USER32.DLL could not be loaded. Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DFD@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harald Brass [ mailto:BrassH@web.de ] > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:31 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XWin.exe bug? USER32.DLL could not be loaded. > > When I run XWin.exe for some time under heavy load (KDE desktop with > Opera > browser and multiple windows), I get an Windows NT error message that > "USER32.DLL" could not be loaded. From this moment, no new programs > can be > started on the NT system, not even a DOS box (always same error > message on > missing USER32.DLL). It even does not help to log out and log on again > to > the NT system, the NT system must be completely restarted. > > I checked the M$ knowledgebase Q142676 which says that the error > "USER32.DLL" is caused by an overflow of the desktop's heap. Maybe > there are > memory holes caused by XWin.exe? > maybe problem with Cygwin heap? I do not know, has anyone else seen it? > I tried the commandline arguments -ld 3000 and ls 1000 when starting > XWin.exe, and up to now the problem has not come up again. But maybe I > did > not try it long enough to reproduce the error... > > Can anyone tell me what is the reason for this behaviour? From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 16:54:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:54:00 -0000 Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DFE@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Thanks, I will fix it. But if you put etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 at drive c:\ (for example) then from bash cd c:/ bunzip2 etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 tar xvf etc-x11-vtwm.tar This should give only cygwin/etc/X11.... or not? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:26 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > I see the same thing if I bunzip then untar. I understand the need > for the > /etc heirarchy. I don't understand the need for the leading cygwin/ > in the > filenames in etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2. I ended up with these files in > /cywin/cygwin/etc/... as I untarred all the *.tar.bz2 files from /. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [SMTP:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com] > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:42 AM > > To: Billinghurst, David (CRTS); 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:34 AM > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > The 4.1.0 distribution file etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 is packaged > > > differently to > > > the rest of the distribution, as it is rooted at cygwin/. > > > > yes, because /etc/X11 is needed to which many symlinks from > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 points. > > > > > > > Easy to work > > > around, but ... > > > > > > tar jtf etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 gives > > > > What happen if you used tar xvf tc-x11-vtwm.tar after bunziping? > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > cygwin/ > > > cygwin/etc/ > > > cygwin/etc/X11/ > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/ > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Beforelight > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Bitmap > > > .... > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 16:58:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:58:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DFF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Raymond, Well I still think it is winsock or networking issue. However, concentrating efforts for Windows 95 won't pay off. As a part of Sun Microsystems law suite settlements Microsoft does not distributes Windows 95 any more, it removed Windows 95 from MSDN download site and new shipments of MSDN do not include Windows 95. Therefore I think Windows 95 will be flushed out of market in near future. > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:05 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; huntharo@msu.edu > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a > > OK, finally I am getting some information which I hope will help. I > uninstalled > winsock2, using the batch file in the ws2bakup directory (the winsock > backup > directory). I ran startx after that. This is the message I got: > > _X11TransSocketOpen: socket() failed for local > _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for local > _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for > local/bragi.control.utoronto.ca:0 > > This message repeats until I hit CTRL-C. With that, the message repeat > one > more time, and the following is appended at the end: > > ../usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Addresses in the specified family cannot be > used with > this socket (errno 106): unexpected signal 2. > > Let me know what I should try next. I hope it would be something less > than > reinstalling networking! > > Raymond > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:54:22AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > The only thing I have noticed so far between the working and the > > > non-working win95 systems is that the non-working one has winsock > > > upgraded, to version 2 I believe. Don't know if this is relevant, > just > > > another tidbit for you to consider. > > > > > > Thank you, Suhaib and Harold, for all your efforts. Although I > have 2 > > > non-working installations, I have 4 working ones, 1 win95a, 1 > win98, 2 > > > w2k. I must say they look good. > > > > > > I am going to wipe out win95 on one of the non-working machines > and > > > install win98, and then cygwin and X. We'll see what happens. I > still > > > have the other non-working machine to try out your new > suggestions, > > > including possibly reinstalling networking, if that is felt to be > the > > > most likely cause. > > > > > > Winsock2 can be problem here. When winsock2 was released as an > optional > > package for Windows95, I remember installing then replacing it with > Winsock > > which shipped with Win95. Because it > > was giving problems on Windows95. > > > > If you uninstall Networking from Control Panel and reinstall it > using your > > Windows95, Winsock2 will be replaced with Winsock from Win95 CD. It > might > > help. Let us know. > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 17:02:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:02:00 -0000 Subject: problems with xfre 4.0.3 and WinME Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E00@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> First, how about you use Xf86 4.1.0? I am waiting for naming convention from Harold then I want to get rid of Xfree86 4.0.3. There are some compatibility issues. Also edit your startxwin.bat and ad REM before lines which have start rxvt, start mxterm and start xfwm. BTW why did you remove REM from the following? You cannot use multiple Windows Managers on same X display? > > start mwm > start vtwm > set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? > @echo on Do a search on mail archive there are 100s of mails which have answer to your problems, please. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes [ mailto:dfernan@nimr.mrc.ac.uk ] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:06 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: problems with xfre 4.0.3 and WinME > > Hi all > I am getting all the binaries etc for th3 4.0.3 xfree cygwin > After all intallation etc I exec the following startwin > I get a x display but just with black diagonal lines in it > > Have a look > Any help will be apreciated > Delmiro > > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=.;%PATH%;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > REM SET XFCE_DATA=\cygwin\usr\X11R6\var; xfce > > > REM *********THIS PART COMMENTED OUT. IF YOU WANT TO USE NOHUP, > UNCOMMENT > EVERYTHING AND COMMENT OUT START BELOW******** > C:\Cygwin\bin\bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/bin/bash -c > 'xwin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine > 4'&""&" > > bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c > './xterm -sb -sl 2048 -font 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow > -bg > black -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & > bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c > './mxterm -sb -sl 2048 -font 7x13bold -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg > yellow -bg > black -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & > bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './rxvt - > fn > 7x13bold -e /usr/bin/bash' &""&" & > bash -c "/usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/bash -c ""/usr/bin/bash -c './xfwm' > &""&" > > > REM ***************** TO USE WINDOWS START > COMMAND********************* > > start XWin -screen 0 1024x768x32 -whitepixel 255 -blackpixel 0 -engine > 4 > > > start rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-12" -e bash > start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > REM start mxterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black - > e > /usr/bin/bash > start twm > > start mwm > start vtwm > set stty=intr ^c susp ^z start ^q stop ^s quit ^\\ erase ^? > @echo on > > And I get the following nohup.out > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height > 714 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d > 32 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height > 714 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d > 32 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > ./xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 > /usr/bin/bash: ./mxterm: No such file or directory > rxvt: can't open display 127.0.0.1:0.0 > /usr/bin/bash: ./xfwm: No such file or directory > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height > 714 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff RGB 8 d > 32 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > > > Delmiro Fernandez-Reyes MD DPhil > Division of Mathematical Biology > National Institute for Medical Research > The Ridgeway, Mill Hill, London, NW7 1AA, UK > Phone 0208 9593666 ext 2632 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 17:08:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:08:00 -0000 Subject: dtwm windows lose focus Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E01@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > I downloaded and installed Cygwin and XFree86 4.1.0 4 days ago (June > 21, 2001). > > I am trying to use XFree86 to use my Windows 2000 machine as an > XTerminal for > a RS6000 machine running AIX. I want to use the AIX window manager > "dtwm" > on my Windows 2000 machine. "dtwm" looks like what I remember as the > old > Motif (OSF) Windows manager (back in the good old days). There is a vtwm too for Cygwin which looks and behaves like as old OSF/MOTIF mwm. I have no idea what is going with windows poping to fix focus...? any one any suggestions? > > Things work pretty well, except that often the dtwm will stop taking > input from > my keyboard. The mouse works, and I can select menu items in dtwm and > execute them with mouse clicks, and the space bar appears to work on > the keyboard, > otherwise nothing. This will almost always happen when I switch from > my XFree86 display > to a Windows 2000 window and back again (in other words, it's as > though dtwm > doesn't know I'm back). > > Something very odd: I am running Cygwin bash at the same time I am > running the > dtwm, and I have found that when dtwm stops reading the keyboard, I > can fix that > by popping the bash window to the top of the screen and then > minimizing it again. > > On the other hand, a colleague of mine is trying to run the same > configuration (possibly > with an older version of Cygwin), and he can't get dtwm to read his > keyboard at > all (same behavior, echoes the space bar only), but popping his bash > shell to > to top does not fix the problem. He might have to upgrade his Cygwin to the latest version. The newer binaries of XFree86 were compiled with latest release of Cygwin 1.3.2. Suhaib > > Here is the process I use to run dtwm on the AIX machine: > > 1. Run bash (programs->cygnus solutions->cygwin bash shell) > > 2. Run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat (from Windows explorer - > you > can probably also do this from the bash shell but I haven't been doing > that...) > > 3. In the bash shell: > > export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.x.xx:0 (the IP address of your local machine) > > /usr/x11r6/bin/xhost.exe + > > 4. startxwin.bat will have brought up an X display with a bash > window. In that window, > type: > > rlogin "aix machine name" -l your_unix_login > > It should prompt you for your password. > > 5. After logging into "aix machine name", type: > > export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.x.xx:0 (the IP address of your local machine, > again) > > dtwm (launches the display manager). > > > -- > Tom Gross > Elytics, Inc > http://www.elytics.com From David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com Mon Jun 25 17:22:00 2001 From: David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com (Billinghurst, David (CRTS)) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:22:00 -0000 Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Message-ID: <8D00C32549556B4E977F81DBC24E985D1B1AD9@crtsmail1.technol_exch.corp.riotinto.org> Yes. Everything ends up in the correct place if I untar etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 from c:\. > -----Original Message----- > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [SMTP:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2001 9:54 > To: Billinghurst, David (CRTS); 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > Thanks, I will fix it. But if you put etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 at drive c:\ > (for example) then from bash > > cd c:/ > > bunzip2 etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > tar xvf etc-x11-vtwm.tar > > This should give only cygwin/etc/X11.... or not? > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:26 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > I see the same thing if I bunzip then untar. I understand the need > > for the > > /etc heirarchy. I don't understand the need for the leading cygwin/ > > in the > > filenames in etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2. I ended up with these files in > > /cywin/cygwin/etc/... as I untarred all the *.tar.bz2 files from /. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [SMTP:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:42 AM > > > To: Billinghurst, David (CRTS); 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > > Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4.1.0 distribution file etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 is packaged > > > > differently to > > > > the rest of the distribution, as it is rooted at cygwin/. > > > > > > yes, because /etc/X11 is needed to which many symlinks from > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 points. > > > > > > > > > > Easy to work > > > > around, but ... > > > > > > > > tar jtf etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 gives > > > > > > What happen if you used tar xvf tc-x11-vtwm.tar after bunziping? > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > cygwin/ > > > > cygwin/etc/ > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/ > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/ > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Beforelight > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Bitmap > > > > .... > > > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Jun 25 17:24:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DFE@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <03c101c0fdd6$9b1fb8f0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: "'Billinghurst, David (CRTS)'" ; Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > Thanks, I will fix it. But if you put etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 at drive c:\ > (for example) then from bash > > cd c:/ > > bunzip2 etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > tar xvf etc-x11-vtwm.tar > > This should give only cygwin/etc/X11.... or not? possibly not - tar may get horribly confused (c:\ == /cygdrive/c) as the mount table for the user won't be honoured (nothing is usually mounted under /cygdrive/c). Rob > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:26 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > I see the same thing if I bunzip then untar. I understand the need > > for the > > /etc heirarchy. I don't understand the need for the leading cygwin/ > > in the > > filenames in etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2. I ended up with these files in > > /cywin/cygwin/etc/... as I untarred all the *.tar.bz2 files from /. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [SMTP:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:42 AM > > > To: Billinghurst, David (CRTS); 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > > Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4.1.0 distribution file etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 is packaged > > > > differently to > > > > the rest of the distribution, as it is rooted at cygwin/. > > > > > > yes, because /etc/X11 is needed to which many symlinks from > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 points. > > > > > > > > > > Easy to work > > > > around, but ... > > > > > > > > tar jtf etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 gives > > > > > > What happen if you used tar xvf tc-x11-vtwm.tar after bunziping? > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > cygwin/ > > > > cygwin/etc/ > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/ > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/ > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Beforelight > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Bitmap > > > > .... > > > > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jun 25 17:42:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:42:00 -0000 Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E02@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Collins [ mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au ] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:26 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi; 'Billinghurst, David (CRTS)'; cygwin- > xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: "'Billinghurst, David (CRTS)'" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:53 AM > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > Thanks, I will fix it. But if you put etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 at drive > c:\ > > (for example) then from bash > > > > cd c:/ > > > > bunzip2 etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > tar xvf etc-x11-vtwm.tar > > > > This should give only cygwin/etc/X11.... or not? > > possibly not - tar may get horribly confused (c:\ == /cygdrive/c) as > the > mount table for the user won't be honoured (nothing is usually mounted > under /cygdrive/c). are not c:/cygwin and /cygdrive/c/cygwin same? I had in the past untar stuff directly into c:/cygwin from c:\. I will check out etc-x11-vtwm.tar.... oh never mind I see David reply, it does work.... Suhaib > > Rob > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:26 PM > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > I see the same thing if I bunzip then untar. I understand the > need > > > for the > > > /etc heirarchy. I don't understand the need for the leading > cygwin/ > > > in the > > > filenames in etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2. I ended up with these files in > > > /cywin/cygwin/etc/... as I untarred all the *.tar.bz2 files from > /. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [SMTP:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com] > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:42 AM > > > > To: Billinghurst, David (CRTS); 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > > Subject: RE: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS) > > > > > [ mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com ] > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > > > Subject: Packaging problem with etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4.1.0 distribution file etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 is packaged > > > > > differently to > > > > > the rest of the distribution, as it is rooted at cygwin/. > > > > > > > > yes, because /etc/X11 is needed to which many symlinks from > > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Easy to work > > > > > around, but ... > > > > > > > > > > tar jtf etc-x11-vtwm.tar.bz2 gives > > > > > > > > What happen if you used tar xvf tc-x11-vtwm.tar after bunziping? > > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cygwin/ > > > > > cygwin/etc/ > > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/ > > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/ > > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Beforelight > > > > > cygwin/etc/X11/app-defaults/Bitmap > > > > > .... > > > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 18:40:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:40:00 -0000 Subject: dtwm windows lose focus Message-ID: Sounds like the Alt key missing release problem that was fixed a little while back. I am guessing that you are using Alt+Tab to switch out of Cygwin/XFree86? I'm not sure which of my Test releases fixed the problem, but you can take a look at the changelog, or the Server Test Series homepage for more information: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/changelog.htm Harold From rcristel@sprint.ca Mon Jun 25 19:20:00 2001 From: rcristel@sprint.ca (Robert J. Cristel) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:20:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 Message-ID: <3B37F0A2.88ABA199@sprint.ca> The manual mentions ftp. Unfortunately, there's no ftp available from Harold's page. So that's not that helpful. http doesn't work. Really. So I would recommend Real Download. It worked for me. I would consider putting that in the manual, in order to ensure that the manual does contain a viable solution for this case. -Robert Cristel From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 20:03:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:03:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 References: <3B37F0A2.88ABA199@sprint.ca> Message-ID: It's got nothing to do with http. It has everything to do with web browsers and users. If you think about it, you have to be getting the file via http (even when using Real Download, whatever that is), as the MSU server only allows http connections. Good point about ftp not being available at MSU... the FAQ was actually for the normal releases, not for the the Test series. However, I should keep in mind that people read the FAQ for the Test series as well... I'm tired, time for bed. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert J. Cristel [ mailto:rcristel@sprint.ca ] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:17 PM > To: cygwin-xfree; huntharo@msu.edu; robert.collins@itdomain.com.au > Subject: RE: bunzip error on server test 36 > > > The manual mentions ftp. Unfortunately, there's no ftp available from > Harold's page. So that's not that helpful. http doesn't work. > Really. > So I would recommend Real Download. It worked for me. I would consider > putting that in the manual, in order to ensure that the manual does > contain a viable solution for this case. > > -Robert Cristel > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 20:48:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:48:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 36 References: <3B37A038.CCCB55A9@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> Message-ID: Holger, > When I minimize the whole xserver window and raise it again, > colors may change > slightly and can be repaired by "drawing" with the cursor. I just now have > started Netscape with xwin minimized, and after raising it again, > all window > colors (xterm, MAGIC) change totally under the moving cursor. By the time I figured out that fixing this would be difficult I had already fixed it. Turns out that the device context returned by BeginPaint () has to have the palette selected into it and realized on it, in order for the colors to be correct when redrawing portions of the window that have been exposed from behind another window. I'll put together another test release soon, but maybe not tonight. > A final feature request now is to put 8bit on top of 32bit, so > the graphics > card may stay with 32bit. It turns out that this is an age old problem that is really difficult to solve. I thought I could do it by just initializing a fake PseudoColor visual when running in TrueColor mode. Turns out I was wrong. However, you're in luck, because the new RandR (resize and rotate) extension by Keith Packard et al. solves this difficult problem. RandR provides all visual classes in all depths to all clients all the time, regardless of the actual physical display depth. RandR is not currently enabled in Cygwin/XFree86, as it appears to still be beta, and some work will have to be done to enable it. I'm kinda looking at it now, but you may wish to enable it for me. I'm reading the documentation at: http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/randr/ You may be wondering why we don't just use Windows palettes in TrueColor mode to enable PseudoColor. Well, Windows only allows palettes in 8 bit color mode, so there you have it. I'm going to remove the code that created a fake PseudoColor visual when running in TrueColor mode. This will have no effect on the real PseudoColor support that has just been released. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 20:58:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:58:00 -0000 Subject: [FEATURE REQUEST] LBX References: <200106160132.f5G1WQC11498@pilot19.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: > Might a command line interface be added instead to disable LBX? > Like -nolbx? > Can it be done that easily? LBX is a very nice resource, and I > actually use > it and rely on it. If I am the only one, I can simply use the > 4.1.0 build that I found the article that gave me the impression that getting rid of LBX would be a good thing, it is the article that Keith Packard and Jim Gettys wrote about the RandR extension: http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/randr/randr.html#tex2html1 "more importantly, the extension framework has isolated ``bad'' ideas from the core X functionality allowing their eventual atrophy into irrelevance." The footnote for that statement says: http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/randr/randr.html#foot74 "E.g. PEX, XIE, LBX, along with wide lines and arcs in the core protocol ... " Now, Jim Gettys (original writer of the X Window System) and Keith Packard (RandR, Shadow, FB, XFree86) are arguably the two primary heavyweights in the X world today. When they talk, I march. They said LBX sucks, so I removed LBX. Of course, LBX is back in now, but I didn't want anyone to think that I was making a rash decision in disabling LBX. On a side note, Keith Packard had recently turned off building PEX and XIE for XFree86 and encouraged other developers to do the same thing for other platforms, so it seemed perfectly reasonable to disable LBX as well. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 25 21:15:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:15:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 37 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 37 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test37.exe.bz2 (1045 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010626-0001.tar.bz2 (64 KB) Changes: 1) PseudoColor - Fixed the strange colors when redrawing portions of the Cygwin/XFree86 window that have been covered then exposed by another Window. 2) Stop creating a fake PseudoColor visual in when using a TrueColor display. Emulating PseudoColor on TrueColor is a long standing problem and will be handled by the RandR extension when it stabilizes. 3) Move the palette realization code into an engine specific funtion. 4) Move the screen redrawing code into an engine specific funtion. Enjoy, Harold From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Tue Jun 26 00:12:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:12:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DF9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3B3835F1.77A487D7@team.owl-online.de> I don????t know where to use 'xhost +' because I not runnning a bash to execute my commands. Just '-from -query' to log in from startxwin.bat. Where can I type 'xhost.exe +', that the Linux-Box recognizes the command? Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > Did you try xhost + ? > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cord-H. Fricke [ mailto:fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE ] > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:57 AM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > > Subject: XDMCP > > > > Hi, > > > > no starting with -from ip_adress -query ip_adress > > but it is giving me the follwing error: > > > > AUDIT:Date:1072:XWin:client 1 rejected from 'ip_adress' port 60280 > > (and > > counting higher) > > > > When starting with XServer from MI/X it works but the XServer from > > MI/X > > is not stable enough to run KDE. > > > > XDMCP from GDM runs on Port 177. > > What is that???? > > > > Thank you for your fast coming help ;-) > > -- > > ------------------------------------ > > Mit freundlichen Gruessen > > > > Cord-H. Fricke > > Systemtechnik > > > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > > http://team.owl-online.de -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com Tue Jun 26 01:13:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com (Ralf Habacker) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:13:00 -0000 Subject: standby problems with xfree server Message-ID: <000601c0fe18$515f8aa0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi, I'm using the xfree server 4.1.0 on win2k and have activated the standby/suspend option of win2k. After resuming operation the xfree windows has white content and couldn't be reactived. I have looked in the xfree mailing list, but haven't found any relating topic. Does anyone have recognized this problem too ? Ralf Habacker EMail: Ralf@habacker.de Ralf.Habacker@saght.tessag.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jun 26 02:31:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 02:31:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP References: <3B3835F1.77A487D7@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Cord-H. Fricke wrote: > I don????t know where to use 'xhost +' because I not runnning a bash to > execute my commands. > Just '-from -query' to log in from startxwin.bat. Where can I type > 'xhost.exe +', that the Linux-Box recognizes the command? > > Suhaib Siddiqi schrieb: > > > Did you try xhost + ? When using XDMCP there is no need for xhost +. bye -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From achevalier@prosodie.com Tue Jun 26 03:46:00 2001 From: achevalier@prosodie.com (Chevalier Arnaud) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:46:00 -0000 Subject: Keybord problem Message-ID: <9F92926E70B1D2119EFF0008C74C411F038B7D31@multimedia.prosodie.com> Hello, I'm in Cygwin/Xfree86 on Win NT: - I configure access controle (xhost +) - I start a telnet session from a bash window to connect to an AIX server. - I export DISPLAY to my screen. - Then I launch an "xterm &" The following error appear : unable to open font "-*-ergonomic-medium-r-*- ... and the keyboard seems to be desactivated. I meen that nothing appear on the screen. Note that this problem come with all the applications I run from the remote server via telnet. Do anyone have an idea to solve this problem ? From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 26 05:16:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 37 References: <139b01c0fe2c$0efb24d0$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Message-ID: Francis, > The image following was first with a blue palette, and I asked > for the red one. > Colors are wrong, and if I move the mouse over, I got the good colors. Sounds to me like the colors are correct when the mouse is in the window with the new palette, right? Well, that's the expected behavior, because Windows only allows one color palette to be installed at a time, and a colormap specific to a single X client is only installed when that client has the focus. > You're close to the goal ! Don't expect the PseudoColor support to get any better from my efforts. I won't personally get any benefit from working on it further, so you will have to correct any remaining problems to your own liking, or hope that someone else does. I will finish organizing the PseudoColor code into engine specific functions, but I don't plan on adding any new functionality. I'll gladly answer your questions if you choose to further develop the PseudoColor support. There isn't much information to learn about PseudoColor and Windows color palette management; it only took me a few hours to learn enough to implement the current PseudoColor support. The Cygwin/XFree86 source code is liberally commented, and the Contributor's Guide contains enough information for you to easily setup a manageable build tree, so you shouldn't have any problems getting started on the features that you would like. Good luck, Harold From briang@OasisAdvancedEngineering.com Tue Jun 26 06:18:00 2001 From: briang@OasisAdvancedEngineering.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:18:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: RE: [FEATURE REQUEST] LBX References: <4.3.1.0.20010626073855.04810eb8@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3B388AB3.B1682098@OasisAdvancedEngineering.com> It may be true that LBX is not necessarily the best extension to include in an X server. It removes the dynamics of an application to use an extension, since it talks to a proxy as a server. The proxy then may or may not be able to connect to the real server, making it much harder for the app to determine if it should use LBX or not. Still, LBX does speed up X communication through slower connections. Also, over a LAN, if there are a lot of images, it speeds things up. I have done some comparisons by with a bandwith/latency limiting router with an X app in the following circumstances : 1. No compression 2. LBX compression 3. DXPC compression (similar to LBX, but is not a server extension, and requires 2 proxys) I found that compression definately made a difference. LBX was overall, a better solution as for speed. DXPC did much better at crunching large images (XPutImage calls), but was slower with normal operation. With the nature of what a Cygwin XFree Server is commonly used for, I believe LBX is more helpful than in other servers. Many people use the X server in windows to display remote applications, thus making LBX useful to have. Plus, the current state of cygwin and the XFree server is pretty slow, so it can use any help it can get.... Unless, of course, LBX does not speed things up under the XFree server in Cygwin. My tests were only done with Linux XFree, and Hummingbird eXceed for Windows. I assume the same results are true with cygwin, and my assumption may be false. Ok, I have done enough rambling on. Have a good one !!! Brian > > >I found the article that gave me the impression that getting rid of LBX > >would be a good thing, it is the article that Keith Packard and Jim Gettys > >wrote about the RandR extension: > > http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/randr/randr.html#tex2html1 > > > >"more importantly, the extension framework has isolated ``bad'' ideas from > >the core X functionality allowing their eventual atrophy into irrelevance." > > > >The footnote for that statement says: > > http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/randr/randr.html#foot74 > >"E.g. PEX, XIE, LBX, along with wide lines and arcs in the core protocol ... > >" > > > >Now, Jim Gettys (original writer of the X Window System) and Keith Packard > >(RandR, Shadow, FB, XFree86) are arguably the two primary heavyweights in > >the X world today. When they talk, I march. They said LBX sucks, so I > >removed LBX. > > > >Of course, LBX is back in now, but I didn't want anyone to think that I was > >making a rash decision in disabling LBX. On a side note, Keith Packard had > >recently turned off building PEX and XIE for XFree86 and encouraged other > >developers to do the same thing for other platforms, so it seemed perfectly > >reasonable to disable LBX as well. > > > >Harold From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Tue Jun 26 06:43:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:43:00 -0000 Subject: It works Message-ID: <3B38919F.FDC743A8@team.owl-online.de> So, now starting with start XWin -emulate3buttons 100 -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -ac -engine 4 -query 10.101.1.121 -from 10.101.1.120 and I can login on my Linux-Box with KDE and my mouse is doing cut and paste... One small problem: I have no keyboard-features. I can????t press e.g. this symbol: ' | ' Which xmodmap I use? The one on my Linuxbox or the one from cygwin? -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net Tue Jun 26 06:53:00 2001 From: nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net (Nikodemus Karlsson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:53:00 -0000 Subject: Can't start xserver in NT Message-ID: <01062616030200.12333@venus.home> Hi! I just installed the latest cygnus and xfree components in win NT4. When I just run "X", I get the message "can't find procedure start address _ctype_ in cygwin1.dll" (a windows message). When I try the startx command, I get "xinit not found" (in the cygnus terminal window). What is wrong, and how can I solve the problem? TIA, Nikodemus -- ***************************************** Nikodemus Karlsson, Teacher in mathematics and science ***************************************** From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jun 26 06:54:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:54:00 -0000 Subject: It works References: <3B38919F.FDC743A8@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Cord-H. Fricke wrote: > So, > > now starting with > > > start XWin -emulate3buttons 100 -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -ac -engine 4 > -query 10.101.1.121 -from 10.101.1.120 > > and I can login on my Linux-Box with KDE and my mouse is doing cut and > paste... > One small problem: > I have no keyboard-features. > I can????t press e.g. this symbol: ' | ' > Which xmodmap I use? The one on my Linuxbox or the one from cygwin? You can use the one from your linuxbox. They should be compatible with Cygwin/Xfree86. If there are still problems with the modmap, please try those from http://www.gotti.org . bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jun 26 06:58:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:58:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: RE: [FEATURE REQUEST] LBX References: <3B388AB3.B1682098@OasisAdvancedEngineering.com> Message-ID: As long as LBX does not cause any problems, we should leave it in the server. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Brian Genisio wrote: > It may be true that LBX is not necessarily the best extension to include in an X > server. It removes the dynamics of an application to use an extension, since it > talks to a proxy as a server. The proxy then may or may not be able to connect > to the real server, making it much harder for the app to determine if it should > use LBX or not. > > Still, LBX does speed up X communication through slower connections. Also, over > a LAN, if there are a lot of images, it speeds things up. I have done some > comparisons by with a bandwith/latency limiting router with an X app in the > following circumstances : > 1. No compression > 2. LBX compression > 3. DXPC compression (similar to LBX, but is not a server extension, and requires > 2 proxys) > > I found that compression definately made a difference. LBX was overall, a better > solution as for speed. DXPC did much better at crunching large images (XPutImage > calls), but was slower with normal operation. > > With the nature of what a Cygwin XFree Server is commonly used for, I believe LBX > is more helpful than in other servers. Many people use the X server in windows > to display remote applications, thus making LBX useful to have. Plus, the > current state of cygwin and the XFree server is pretty slow, so it can use any > help it can get.... > > Unless, of course, LBX does not speed things up under the XFree server in > Cygwin. My tests were only done with Linux XFree, and Hummingbird eXceed for > Windows. I assume the same results are true with cygwin, and my assumption may > be false. > > Ok, I have done enough rambling on. Have a good one !!! > Brian > > > > > > >I found the article that gave me the impression that getting rid of LBX > > >would be a good thing, it is the article that Keith Packard and Jim Gettys > > >wrote about the RandR extension: > > > http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/randr/randr.html#tex2html1 > > > > > >"more importantly, the extension framework has isolated ``bad'' ideas from > > >the core X functionality allowing their eventual atrophy into irrelevance." > > > > > >The footnote for that statement says: > > > http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/randr/randr/randr.html#foot74 > > >"E.g. PEX, XIE, LBX, along with wide lines and arcs in the core protocol ... > > >" > > > > > >Now, Jim Gettys (original writer of the X Window System) and Keith Packard > > >(RandR, Shadow, FB, XFree86) are arguably the two primary heavyweights in > > >the X world today. When they talk, I march. They said LBX sucks, so I > > >removed LBX. > > > > > >Of course, LBX is back in now, but I didn't want anyone to think that I was > > >making a rash decision in disabling LBX. On a side note, Keith Packard had > > >recently turned off building PEX and XIE for XFree86 and encouraged other > > >developers to do the same thing for other platforms, so it seemed perfectly > > >reasonable to disable LBX as well. > > > > > >Harold > > -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From kwong@control.toronto.edu Tue Jun 26 07:08:00 2001 From: kwong@control.toronto.edu (Raymond Kwong) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:08:00 -0000 Subject: X server won't start in win95a References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505DFF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <200106261414.KAA20243@thor.control.toronto.edu> Suhaib: It was sheer curiosity that I caused me to keep trying with win95. Win95 is old and shows it. Redhat 4.2 is probably considered ancient, but it is much more recent than win95! I have installed win98 on my other "non-working" machine and now the X server comes up right away. >From this experience, it seems to me that with a new install, xfree86 works fine. However, if "software upgrades" are done to the system, then all bets are off. Raymond On 25 Jun, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > Raymond, > Well I still think it is winsock or networking issue. However, > concentrating efforts for Windows 95 won't pay off. As a part of Sun > Microsystems law suite settlements Microsoft does not distributes Windows 95 > any more, it removed Windows 95 from MSDN download site and new shipments of > MSDN do not include Windows 95. Therefore I think Windows 95 will be flushed > out of market in near future. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Raymond Kwong [ mailto:kwong@control.toronto.edu ] >> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:05 PM >> To: Suhaib Siddiqi; huntharo@msu.edu >> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >> Subject: Re: X server won't start in win95a >> >> OK, finally I am getting some information which I hope will help. I >> uninstalled >> winsock2, using the batch file in the ws2bakup directory (the winsock >> backup >> directory). I ran startx after that. This is the message I got: >> >> _X11TransSocketOpen: socket() failed for local >> _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for local >> _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for >> local/bragi.control.utoronto.ca:0 >> >> This message repeats until I hit CTRL-C. With that, the message repeat >> one >> more time, and the following is appended at the end: >> >> ../usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Addresses in the specified family cannot be >> used with >> this socket (errno 106): unexpected signal 2. >> >> Let me know what I should try next. I hope it would be something less >> than >> reinstalling networking! >> >> Raymond >> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:54:22AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: >> > >> > > The only thing I have noticed so far between the working and the >> > > non-working win95 systems is that the non-working one has winsock >> > > upgraded, to version 2 I believe. Don't know if this is relevant, >> just >> > > another tidbit for you to consider. >> > > >> > > Thank you, Suhaib and Harold, for all your efforts. Although I >> have 2 >> > > non-working installations, I have 4 working ones, 1 win95a, 1 >> win98, 2 >> > > w2k. I must say they look good. >> > > >> > > I am going to wipe out win95 on one of the non-working machines >> and >> > > install win98, and then cygwin and X. We'll see what happens. I >> still >> > > have the other non-working machine to try out your new >> suggestions, >> > > including possibly reinstalling networking, if that is felt to be >> the >> > > most likely cause. >> > >> > >> > Winsock2 can be problem here. When winsock2 was released as an >> optional >> > package for Windows95, I remember installing then replacing it with >> Winsock >> > which shipped with Win95. Because it >> > was giving problems on Windows95. >> > >> > If you uninstall Networking from Control Panel and reinstall it >> using your >> > Windows95, Winsock2 will be replaced with Winsock from Win95 CD. It >> might >> > help. Let us know. >> > >> > Suhaib >> > >> > > >> > > Raymond >> > > From tom_gross@elytics.com Tue Jun 26 07:36:00 2001 From: tom_gross@elytics.com (Tom Gross) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:36:00 -0000 Subject: dtwm windows lose focus References: Message-ID: <3B389EDA.DE40E818@elytics.com> I installed the latest patch ("test37") and I see the same behavior. It does seem, sometimes, that if I return to dtwm using Alt Tab, that focus is restored - I don't usually use altar but rather my XWin runs as one of my Windows 2000 Windows, and I am pulling up other Windows apps from the toolbar at the bottom of the screen. Is there a way I can run XWin in "exclusive" mode where it grabs the entire screen? If this fixes the problem I might just work that way. Incidentally, it isn't only the bash shell that fixes the problem but since sending my original mail I have realized that if I restore (or create) any DOS window on top of dtwm and then minimize it, focus is restored to dtwm. I hope that odd fact provides someone with a clue to what is going on! Thanks for all responses! -- Tom Gross Elytics, Inc http://www.elytics.com From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Tue Jun 26 07:40:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:40:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard features Message-ID: <3B389F0C.A7C171C2@team.owl-online.de> Now I copied the xmodmap.de onto my linu-box and after logging in I type xmodmap xmodmap.de and I have the german keyboard dirty but it works... -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 26 07:45:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:45:00 -0000 Subject: Can't start xserver in NT Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E0A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You are using an ANCIENT RELEASE OF Cygwin, at least B20.x or older. UPGRADE YOUR CYGWIN first. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Nikodemus Karlsson [ mailto:nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:03 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Can't start xserver in NT > > > Hi! > I just installed the latest cygnus and xfree components in > win NT4. When I > just run "X", I get the message "can't find procedure start > address _ctype_ > in cygwin1.dll" (a windows message). When I try the startx > command, I get > "xinit not found" (in the cygnus terminal window). What is > wrong, and how can > I solve the problem? > > TIA, Nikodemus > -- > > ***************************************** > > Nikodemus Karlsson, > Teacher in mathematics and science > > ***************************************** > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 26 07:53:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:53:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: RE: [FEATURE REQUEST] LBX References: Message-ID: Alexander, > As long as LBX does not cause any problems, we should leave it in > the server. Right. I'm just clarifying why I thought, as opposed to think, it was a good idea to remove LBX. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 26 07:58:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 37 References: <14f701c0fe50$4af0aea0$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Message-ID: Francis, > No, no. Have you seen the attached picture ? > It's when the mouse cursor is passing over something that the > color JUST under > the mouse cursor is refreshing. Not the whole window. I know the > phenomen you're > talking about, and it's not that. It's like you are painting with > your cursor on > a bitmap. See the red trace on the blue head. It's where my mouse went. I forgot to mention to you that there were no pictures attached to the private email that you said had pictures attached :( Please try sending them again, or send me a URL for them. > My personnal thanks, at least ;-) Ah, you are very welcome. > You mean puting pseudocolor in all engines, or just finishing engine 1 ? > I read something this mornig about a project in beta stage from > others, are you > talking about that, too ? Yes, I mean that I will compartmentalize the PseudoColor support in such a way that it can easily be implemented for the other engines. Once I've done that I will probably just go ahead and implement PseudoColor support for the other engines, as it won't be too hard. However, I don't intend to do much to improve the overall quality or feature set of the current PseudoColor support. > I don't think I'll have time, but who knows ? Just a few minutes a day... Harold From nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net Tue Jun 26 08:07:00 2001 From: nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net (Nikodemus Karlsson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:07:00 -0000 Subject: Can't start xserver in NT Message-ID: <01062617164800.12629@venus.home> >You are using an ANCIENT RELEASE OF Cygwin, at least B20.x or older. >UPGRADE YOUR CYGWIN first >Suhaib I have v. 1.3.2 Is xfree86 working with this beta? /Nikodemus From darko.palic@gmx.de Tue Jun 26 08:08:00 2001 From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:08:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard features References: <3B389F0C.A7C171C2@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: I have also posted you a german PM :-) There are two possible ways to setup a keyboard map. 1. user specific: then copy the xmodmap into your home with the name ".Xmodmap" 2. system wide: then copy the xmodmap into /etc/X11/Xmodmap.remote (under SuSE Linux) the keyboardmap will also be loaded for the logon prompt of the KDE > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of Cord-H. > Fricke > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:41 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com' > Subject: Keyboard features > > > Now I copied the xmodmap.de onto my linu-box and after > logging in I type > xmodmap xmodmap.de and I have the german keyboard > dirty but it works... > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Mit freundlichen Gruessen > > Cord-H. Fricke > Systemtechnik > > Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 > Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 > > fricke@team.owl-online.de > http://team.owl-online.de > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 26 08:13:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: Can't start xserver in NT Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E0B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Nikodemus Karlsson [ mailto:nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:17 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: RE: Can't start xserver in NT > > > >You are using an ANCIENT RELEASE OF Cygwin, at least B20.x or older. > >UPGRADE YOUR CYGWIN first > > >Suhaib > > I have v. 1.3.2 Is xfree86 working with this beta? > yes. Are you sure you do not have an old Cygwin1.dll on your system? Do a File search for Cygwin1.dll on your system and delete all cygwin1.dll except the one in cygwin/bin. Suhaib > /Nikodemus > From nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net Tue Jun 26 08:26:00 2001 From: nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net (Nikodemus Karlsson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:26:00 -0000 Subject: Can't start xserver in NT References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E0B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <01062617361500.12709@venus.home> On Tuesday 26 June 2001 17:13, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nikodemus Karlsson [ mailto:nikodemus.karlsson@bredband.net ] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:17 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > > Subject: RE: Can't start xserver in NT > > > > >You are using an ANCIENT RELEASE OF Cygwin, at least B20.x or older. > > >UPGRADE YOUR CYGWIN first > > > > > >Suhaib > > > > I have v. 1.3.2 Is xfree86 working with this beta? > > yes. Are you sure you do not have an old Cygwin1.dll on your system? Do a > File search for Cygwin1.dll on your system and delete all cygwin1.dll > except the one in cygwin/bin. > > Suhaib > > > /Nikodemus Thanks! I had an old one that I removed. /Nikodemus -- ***************************************** Nikodemus Karlsson, Teacher in mathematics and science ***************************************** From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 26 08:37:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:37:00 -0000 Subject: United States-International keyboard layout References: Message-ID: Alexander, I have set my Windows keyboard layout in Windows 2000 to US-International so that I can enter all sorts of fun characters like oua??, etc., by using my right-hand Alt key as AltGr. I fired up Cygwin/XFree86 with xmodmap.de and ran xev to see what sorts of events I'm getting. One strange thing I noticed right off the bat is that I only see KeyPress events for ModeSwitch (AltGr), I never see KeyRelease events for ModeSwitch. Is that the same behavior that you see on a real non-U.S. keyboard, or have I discovered something new and strange? Thanks, Harold P.S. Did I tell you that I'm taking German this summer? We just finished the first semester and the second semester starts on Monday. Ich liebe Deutsch! :) From jwalker@matchlogic.com Tue Jun 26 09:32:00 2001 From: jwalker@matchlogic.com (Jeff Walker) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:32:00 -0000 Subject: modifier oddity Message-ID: <5FE9B713CCCDD311A03400508B8B30130A91860A@bdr-xcln.corp.matchlogic.com> Well, where do I begin? Looks like the strange behavior with the modifiers isn't the problem, although strange, it was a red herring. It does take up 5-10% of my cpu when I hold down alt, but that isn't a big deal I suppose. So it seems that my first problem was the meta vs. alt problem. I have that figured out at least a bit. I use the alt modifier on mouse clicks to move the window in my window manager (in x) (I use fvwm2) It seems now that after I minimize the "Cygwin/XFree86" window (in windows), then work with other windows sometimes (not every time), the alt and mouse clicks don't work. I have to leave the cygwin/xfree86 window and go back a few times, then it starts working again, as if by magic. I thought it might be fvwm2, since it's not in your list of ported apps, and I compiled it from the source, but I tried twm, which came with it and I see the same behavior. If this isn't enough information, let me know, I will do anything you want. -- Jeff Walker MatchLogic, Inc. jwalker@matchlogic.com 7233 Church Ranch Blvd. Voice 1 (303) 222-2105 Westminster, CO 80021 Fax 1 (303) 222-2001 www.matchlogic.com -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:33 PM To: jwalker@matchlogic.com Cc: cygx Subject: RE: modifier oddity Jeff, > Using xfree86 on my windows 2000 machine with the latest version of cygwin, > looks like the modifiers (alt, shift, ctrl) don't work quite right. I am > using "xev" to look at what's going on and I see that the modifiers send a > keypress and keyrelease, but it does it constantly while I hold it down. On > a xfree86 port to Alpha/OSF (vncserver) (same on Solaris vncserver), I see > what a expect, a keypress event when I press the key, nothing until I > release it, when I get the keyrelease event. Point me to some justification for changing the current behaviour. The current behaviour is really easy because it just passes on the Windows keypress events (Windows generates the repeated events). Give me a really good explanation for why this is preventing you from using Cygwin/XFree86 as it is now. Your current lack of an explanation doesn't do much for your cause. I mean, I'm not exactly going to drop my beer and run inside to program just because somebody out there isn't using Cygwin/XFree86 because of bug X, missing feature Y, or failure to comply to standard Z. Sheesh... Of course, you could probably modify the source code to filter the multiple keypress events in less time than it would take you to come up with a good enough explanation to get me to act, but I digress... Harold From da.gahre@web.de Tue Jun 26 10:52:00 2001 From: da.gahre@web.de (Thomas Gahr) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:52:00 -0000 Subject: Can't find fixed fonts Message-ID: <000e01c0fe68$a6d366a0$9865fea9@toml0crb84vvnw> Every time I try to start XWin with the standard BAT-File, I get the following errors: _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 32, using depth: 16 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 height 760 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" I followed all installation-instructions, and my cygwin-root-dir really is \cygwin, what schould I do? is there any font-package missing? From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Tue Jun 26 11:08:00 2001 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:08:00 -0000 Subject: United States-International keyboard layout References: Message-ID: <002901c0fe6b$7079f350$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Try french too ... warum nicht ? ;-) CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Alexander Gottwald" Cc: "cygx" Sent: mardi 26 juin 2001 17:36 Subject: United States-International keyboard layout > Alexander, > > I have set my Windows keyboard layout in Windows 2000 to US-International so > that I can enter all sorts of fun characters like oua??, etc., by using my > right-hand Alt key as AltGr. I fired up Cygwin/XFree86 with xmodmap.de and > ran xev to see what sorts of events I'm getting. One strange thing I > noticed right off the bat is that I only see KeyPress events for ModeSwitch > (AltGr), I never see KeyRelease events for ModeSwitch. Is that the same > behavior that you see on a real non-U.S. keyboard, or have I discovered > something new and strange? > > Thanks, > > Harold > > P.S. Did I tell you that I'm taking German this summer? We just finished > the first semester and the second semester starts on Monday. Ich liebe > Deutsch! :) > > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jun 26 11:14:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:14:00 -0000 Subject: Can't find fixed fonts Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E13@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> did you install fonts, including misc fonts? > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Gahr [ mailto:da.gahre@web.de ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:52 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Can't find fixed fonts > > > Every time I try to start XWin with the standard BAT-File, I get the > following errors: > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 32, > using depth: 16 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1024 > height 760 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 > twm: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" > > I followed all installation-instructions, and my > cygwin-root-dir really is > \cygwin, what schould I do? is there any font-package missing? > > From Alf.Vahau@upng.ac.pg Tue Jun 26 21:51:00 2001 From: Alf.Vahau@upng.ac.pg (Alfred Vahau) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:51:00 -0000 Subject: bunzip error on server test 36 References: <3B37F0A2.88ABA199@sprint.ca> Message-ID: <3B396FFC.8602D5D8@upng.ac.pg> Hello to all the cygwin users, from the southern hemisphere, I'm new to cygwin. But the problem addressed here has been encountered whilst downloading and installing. I used netscape 4.7 and win98. I used the mirror site at aarnet.edu.au to get cygwin and xfree86. Here was my obserevation. 1. I downloaded all the recommended files by clicking on the blue link. netscape uncompressed and I saved them in the specified directory. 2. I found that I couldn't bunzip as the files were reported to be corrupt. Pretty disappointing given the fact that it takes quite a while to get the needed files from the mirrored sites, if available. 3. I read through the online manual and decided to download the files and saved as links. That didn't help either. 4. Finally I decided to do a real download. This meant for me, anyway, that I had to left click on the download icon, the right most icon. The files downloaded and I saved them in the specified directory. 5. T ran bunzip2 again and this time it worked. I'm not too sure what exactly the problem is but I think in any case not clicking on the blue link helps. This is strange as this is the first time that I've encountered this kind of problem. I think it is browser related as I can't think of all the cygwin files and xfree86 files being corrupt. 6. To anyone having problems uncompressing the xfree86 files using bunzip, try the method I've described. Download by clicking on the download icon and not the blue link specifying the file. By cygwin works but xfree86 is taking quite a while to figure out. Making a transition from Linux and Solaris to cygwin on windows is confusing at first for me but over time I should be able to figure out the cygwin environment and adapt accordingly. Alfred Vahau School of Natural and Physical Sciences University of Papua New Guinea email: alf.vahau@upng.ac.pg "Robert J. Cristel" wrote: > The manual mentions ftp. Unfortunately, there's no ftp available from > Harold's page. So that's not that helpful. http doesn't work. > Really. > So I would recommend Real Download. It worked for me. I would consider > putting that in the manual, in order to ensure that the manual does > contain a viable solution for this case. > > -Robert Cristel From info@nwaltham.com Wed Jun 27 00:13:00 2001 From: info@nwaltham.com (Nicholas Waltham) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 00:13:00 -0000 Subject: Accessing fonts on a font server not on this machine Message-ID: <000401c0fed8$a8c3d010$1b0dcaa8@fao.org> Hello All, I see that there is not an XF86Config file, so where do specify to cygwin-xfree that I would like to use fonts from a x-font server running on another machine. Thanks in advance, Nicholas Waltham From Andreas.Vogler@geneon.de Wed Jun 27 01:26:00 2001 From: Andreas.Vogler@geneon.de (Andreas Vogler) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 01:26:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Accessing fonts on a font server not on this machine References: <000401c0fed8$a8c3d010$1b0dcaa8@fao.org> Message-ID: <000301c0fedf$cb8be900$0bc0a8c0@nbg.geneon.de> Try adding something like -fp "tcp/name.of.fontserver:7100" to the commandline. > -----Urspr????ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]Im Auftrag von Nicholas > Waltham > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juni 2001 09:12 > An: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Betreff: Accessing fonts on a font server not on this machine > > > Hello All, > I see that there is not an XF86Config file, so where do > specify to cygwin-xfree that I would like to use fonts from a > x-font server running on another machine. > > Thanks in advance, > Nicholas Waltham > > > > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 27 03:21:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 03:21:00 -0000 Subject: United States-International keyboard layout References: Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Harold Hunt wrote: > Alexander, > > I have set my Windows keyboard layout in Windows 2000 to US-International so > that I can enter all sorts of fun characters like oua??, etc., by using my > right-hand Alt key as AltGr. I fired up Cygwin/XFree86 with xmodmap.de and > ran xev to see what sorts of events I'm getting. One strange thing I > noticed right off the bat is that I only see KeyPress events for ModeSwitch > (AltGr), I never see KeyRelease events for ModeSwitch. Is that the same > behavior that you see on a real non-U.S. keyboard, or have I discovered > something new and strange? > I just tested my installed server and it generates the keyrelease events for mode_switch. The Version is quite old (around test 23) but if you have not change a lot with the keyboard code, it should work with newer versions too. Ok, I just downloaded test37 and I'll check it out too. Same again. The Key Release is send. Maybe the keyboardhandling is slightly different for the US/International keyboards or you noticed some timeing problems. > Thanks, > > Harold > > P.S. Did I tell you that I'm taking German this summer? We just finished > the first semester and the second semester starts on Monday. Ich liebe > Deutsch! :) > Gut. Auf Wiedersehen ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From lcapiez@prosodie.com Wed Jun 27 09:13:00 2001 From: lcapiez@prosodie.com (Capiez Lionel) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:13:00 -0000 Subject: Strange keyboard behavior depending on remote host Message-ID: <9F92926E70B1D2119EFF0008C74C411F02FE4097@multimedia.prosodie.com> Hi all, I have been using Xfree86/Cygwin to work on a remote FreeBSD host for some weeks now, and I have been rather satisfied with it... until recently. When I tried to start an X client from another host (AIX) I was rather surprised to discover that my keyboard would not respond correctly in that client under Xfree86. Most of the keys are completely ignored by the client. Only figures, Ins, Del, Return and a few other 'special' keys actually work. This behavior is independent of the X client. I chiefly tried with xterm but all other X clients run on that host exhibit the same problem. I am running cygwin 1.3.2, Xfree86 4.0.3 and Window Maker 0.65.0 (running locally on cygwin). Does someone have a clue of where the problem lies? Thanks in advance. Lionel -- PROSODIE [ http://www.prosodie.com ] Lionel Capiez -- lcapiez@prosodie.com -- (+33) 4 72 80 72 28 From ian.pilcher@home.com Wed Jun 27 09:51:00 2001 From: ian.pilcher@home.com (Ian Pilcher) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:51:00 -0000 Subject: Setting dots per inch Message-ID: <3B3A0DF8.20301@home.com> I've tried using the "-dpi xx" switch on the command line, but the server seems to always assume 100x100 dpi. This makes fonts pretty ugly on a 1024x768 screen. Is there any way around this? Is there a bug database that I can search anywhere? Thanks! -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher ian.pilcher@home.com ======================================================================== From ddraeger@umich.edu Wed Jun 27 11:02:00 2001 From: ddraeger@umich.edu (Dan Draeger) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:02:00 -0000 Subject: Can't get up and running on Windows 98 Message-ID: I'm using X 4.03. I extracted all the binaries and run startxwin.bat in DOS and all I get is a blank window with an X-shaped cursor. How do I run and X terminal? Here are the messages that come up on the console... _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 32, using depth: 16 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height 704 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! Any ideas? From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jun 27 13:21:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:21:00 -0000 Subject: Can't get up and running on Windows 98 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E22@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Draeger [ mailto:ddraeger@umich.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:06 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: Can't get up and running on Windows 98 > > > I'm using X 4.03. I extracted all the binaries and run > startxwin.bat in DOS > and all I get is a blank window with an X-shaped cursor. How > do I run and X That means X-server is runing... you need to edit /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat and remove /B you will find for xterm etc. Windows 9x/ME does not accept /B option for start, therefore xterm failed. Suhaib > terminal? Here are the messages that come up on the console... > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 32, > using depth: 16 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 > height 704 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > from li > st! > > Any ideas? > From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Jun 27 22:13:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:13:00 -0000 Subject: Strange keyboard behavior depending on remote host Message-ID: I guess I had the same problem, the keyboard produced the output like RightAlt was permanently pressed. Try to disable the X Keyboard Extension (-xkb parameter). To Suhaib or Harold: Is this bug? I have this problem on all AIX machines (in a fact, I connect only to AIX machines :-). What is xkb parameter supposed to do? Pavel Capiez Lionel To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com Sent by: cc: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources. Subject: Strange keyboard behavior depending on remote host redhat.com 27.06.2001 18:12 Hi all, I have been using Xfree86/Cygwin to work on a remote FreeBSD host for some weeks now, and I have been rather satisfied with it... until recently. When I tried to start an X client from another host (AIX) I was rather surprised to discover that my keyboard would not respond correctly in that client under Xfree86. Most of the keys are completely ignored by the client. Only figures, Ins, Del, Return and a few other 'special' keys actually work. This behavior is independent of the X client. I chiefly tried with xterm but all other X clients run on that host exhibit the same problem. I am running cygwin 1.3.2, Xfree86 4.0.3 and Window Maker 0.65.0 (running locally on cygwin). Does someone have a clue of where the problem lies? Thanks in advance. Lionel -- PROSODIE [ http://www.prosodie.com ] Lionel Capiez -- lcapiez@prosodie.com -- (+33) 4 72 80 72 28 From mau@beatles.cselt.it Wed Jun 27 23:55:00 2001 From: mau@beatles.cselt.it (Maurizio Codogno) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:55:00 -0000 Subject: odd problems with fonts Message-ID: <20010628085331.3fd9bdb4.mau@beatles.cselt.it> Hi all! I have (mostly sealessly) installed cygwin-xfree, but I noticed that sometimes the fonts are not shown. The only error I see in the log window is the lack of Lucida-12 Console, but the rxtrm works just fine using another font, it seems. The strangest thing is that if I use gv at magstep 0 or -1, the title shows, while if I go to magstep -2, it disappears, while subtitle and text remains. The font used are simple Times Roman, if I read the PS file correctly: /TEXT_FONT { /Times-Roman findfont 17 scalefont } def /Times-Roman /Times-Roman ISO ReEncode TEXT_FONT setfont ( Lupo Solitario D.J.) dup stringwidth pop 2 div 595 2 div exch sub 756 moveto show Any suggestions? ciao, .mau. -- Tieni a mente il mio futuro indirizzo email! Get my new email address! puntomaupunto@tin.it From lcapiez@prosodie.com Thu Jun 28 03:09:00 2001 From: lcapiez@prosodie.com (Capiez Lionel) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:09:00 -0000 Subject: Strange keyboard behavior depending on remote host Message-ID: <9F92926E70B1D2119EFF0008C74C411F02FE409D@multimedia.prosodie.com> Unfortunately, setting the -xkb parameter does not solve the problem. Lionel -----Original Message----- From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz [ mailto:Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz ] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:11 AM To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com Subject: Re: Strange keyboard behavior depending on remote host I guess I had the same problem, the keyboard produced the output like RightAlt was permanently pressed. Try to disable the X Keyboard Extension (-xkb parameter). To Suhaib or Harold: Is this bug? I have this problem on all AIX machines (in a fact, I connect only to AIX machines :-). What is xkb parameter supposed to do? Pavel -- PROSODIE [ http://www.prosodie.com ] Lionel Capiez -- lcapiez@prosodie.com -- (+33) 4 72 80 72 28 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 28 04:09:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:09:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New X-server binaries and sources Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E26@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> No I cannot help if you cannot access the downloads from any mirrors. Also keep the posts to mailing list ONLY, please. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: herve cimadomo [ mailto:herve.cimadomo@sdis38.fr ] > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:14 AM > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi' > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New X-server binaries and sources > > > hello, > i can't access to binaries because anonymous access no > work. may you lokk > for this problem , please ? > > > Herv???? Cimadomo, responsable du Service Informatique > e-mail: mailto:Herve.cimadomo@sdis38.fr > t????l : (33) 04.76.26.89.15 > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Suhaib Siddiqi [ mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com ] > Envoy???? : dimanche 3 juin 2001 23:07 > ???? : 'win32-x11@sources.redhat.com' > Objet : [ANNOUNCEMENT] New X-server binaries and sources > > > > > New binaries of Win32-X11 (X-server, and libraries etc) are available. > Please use the nearest mirror site for download. > > * Fixed annoying error at X-server startup, "Cannot find or laod font > Pex_Roman" > > * Fixed in source when compiling using Microsoft VC++, " do > not how to make > lex.c". > > There are still issues with displaying OpenGL applications from a UNIX > Workstation. > > Sources tarballs are available from under win32-x11-src or from CVS at > sources.redhat.com. > > Please post your enquires, questions, and obesrvations to the > mailing list. > > Enjoy > > Suhaib > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jun 28 04:29:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:29:00 -0000 Subject: Lesstif Binaries Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E2C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Users who kept complaining about LessTIf binaries not being available any more at LessTif... well they are available now, and hoefully in the future too whenever a new release of LessTif will be out. You can get latest LessTif binaries for Cygwin/Xfree86 4.1.0 at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8596 (LessTif project home page) Suhaib From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jun 28 07:32:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:32:00 -0000 Subject: It works References: <3B38953D.B9DCA009@team.owl-online.de> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Cord-H. Fricke wrote: > Hmmm, when logging onto my Linux-Box directly I have the right modmap. I > have also installed the modmap from www.gotti.org... > And now I stand here alone :-( > > > > start XWin -emulate3buttons 100 -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -ac -engine 4 > > > -query 10.101.1.121 -from 10.101.1.120 > > > > > > and I can login on my Linux-Box with KDE and my mouse is doing cut and > > > paste... > > > One small problem: > > > I have no keyboard-features. > > > I can????t press e.g. this symbol: ' | ' > > > Which xmodmap I use? The one on my Linuxbox or the one from cygwin? You use the modmap from your linux box. Unfortunately, most distributions use only xkb and do not setup the system to use modmaps too. The easyest way is to copy the modmap from www.gotti.org to ~/.Xmodmap on your linuxbox. If the modmap is not automaticly loaded, please try loading it manually to see, if the modmap works. If it does please check the files .xinitrc and .xsession. In one of these files (or files called from these) should be a line like this: if [ -f ~/.Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap; fi If not, please add it to .xinitrc (but before the windowmanager is called) This should enable the modmap everytime you login using xdmcp. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 3498080 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE Thu Jun 28 07:45:00 2001 From: fricke@Team.OWL-Online.DE (Cord-H. Fricke) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:45:00 -0000 Subject: It works References: Message-ID: <3B3B4328.78B42D87@team.owl-online.de> that????s it! Thank you! Alexander Gottwald schrieb: > On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Cord-H. Fricke wrote: > > > Hmmm, when logging onto my Linux-Box directly I have the right modmap. I > > have also installed the modmap from www.gotti.org... > > And now I stand here alone :-( > > > > > > start XWin -emulate3buttons 100 -screen 0 1280x1024x32 -ac -engine 4 > > > > -query 10.101.1.121 -from 10.101.1.120 > > > > > > > > and I can login on my Linux-Box with KDE and my mouse is doing cut and > > > > paste... > > > > One small problem: > > > > I have no keyboard-features. > > > > I can????t press e.g. this symbol: ' | ' > > > > Which xmodmap I use? The one on my Linuxbox or the one from cygwin? > > You use the modmap from your linux box. Unfortunately, most distributions > use only xkb and do not setup the system to use modmaps too. > The easyest way is to copy the modmap from www.gotti.org to ~/.Xmodmap > on your linuxbox. > If the modmap is not automaticly loaded, please try loading it manually > to see, if the modmap works. If it does please check the files .xinitrc > and .xsession. In one of these files (or files called from these) should > be a line like this: > if [ -f ~/.Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap; fi > If not, please add it to .xinitrc (but before the windowmanager is called) > This should enable the modmap everytime you login using xdmcp. > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org > phone: +49 3725 3498080 mobile: +49 172 7854017 -- ------------------------------------ Mit freundlichen Gruessen Cord-H. Fricke Systemtechnik Fon: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-111 Fax: ++49 52 1 / 52 51-115 fricke@team.owl-online.de http://team.owl-online.de From chris@frostnet.net Thu Jun 28 08:59:00 2001 From: chris@frostnet.net (chris@frostnet.net) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:59:00 -0000 Subject: X dumps stack trace on W2k Message-ID: <20010628110047.B30436@tiger.bubble.frostnet.net> When starting XFree (4.0.3) under cygwin (1.3.2), X gets to returning from winInitVisualsShadowDD() and then does a dump of the stack. This is running under Windows 2000. The output from starting X: _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Command line depth: 16, using depth: 8 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height 694 winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks: 00000000 00000000 00000000 bpRGB: 0 winInitVisuals () - Calling miSetVisualTypesAndMasks winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returned from miSetVisualTypesAndMasks winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Returning 0 [main] XWin 165 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to XWin.exe.stackdump XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "localhost:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. (If you spot any typos in the above just let me know, the user I'm talking with sent me a screenshot so I had to type the above.) I'm also attaching the stack dump. (If anyone needs to know the version of DirectX installed I can find out.) Any ideas why it dies? A huge thanks in advance! -- Chris Frost | < http://www.frostnet.net/chris/ > -------------+---------------------------------- Public PGP Key: Email chris@frostnet.net with the subject "retrieve pgp key" or visit < http://www.frostnet.net/chris/about/pgp_key.phtml > From dhugonnard@yahoo.fr Thu Jun 28 11:29:00 2001 From: dhugonnard@yahoo.fr (denis hugonnard) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:29:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard and Xdm Message-ID: <20010628182930.86488.qmail@web12607.mail.yahoo.com> Hello I'am IT manager in a software compagny in France I want to use Xfree86 on cygwin to acccess ours Unix servers (AIX,Linux) I've 2 problems - when i user the '-broadcast' option i can't see the list of remote servers. - when i run the xserver and open an xterm window from the server (connect by telnet) i can't have a french keyboard Does someone can help me to solve both problems ? Thank you. ===== ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Pour faire vos courses sur le Net, Yahoo! Shopping : http://fr.shopping.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 28 12:10:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:10:00 -0000 Subject: X dumps stack trace on W2k Message-ID: Chris, > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Command line depth: 16, using depth: 8 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#AEN288 You can download one of the newer releases mentioned in that answer at: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 28 17:24:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: United States-International keyboard layout References: <002901c0fe6b$7079f350$65ad34c1@cetp.ipsl.fr> Message-ID: Francis, > Try french too ... warum nicht ? ;-) Heh heh... I had wanted to take French, but it didn't fit in my schedule. I figured German would be good because I wanted to learn the names for the grammer rules, and because there seem to be a lot of German programmers. Perhaps I'll get around to learning some French some day. Hey, at least I have been to France. I haven't made it to Germany, yet. :) Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 28 18:56:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:56:00 -0000 Subject: Setting dots per inch Message-ID: Ian, > I've tried using the "-dpi xx" switch on the command line, but the > server seems to always assume 100x100 dpi. This makes fonts pretty > ugly on a 1024x768 screen. Sorry for taking so long to reply, but I have been busy. Okay, okay, I lied, I like 100 dpi, and I didn't much care about allowing people to configure it; I didn't even look into this until I stumbled upon the one-liner fix. The '-dpi' parameter is a parameter handled by xc/programs/Xserver/os/utils.c, the code reads the parameter and sets the global variable named 'monitorResolution'. I had no idea that this global variable existed until I was perusing the xc/programs/Xserver/hw/kdrive code and noticed that it was being passed as the dpi. I did a search for the variable in the kdrive code, but found nothing, that's when I looked elsewhere and found the variable being set in the os code. What's all that mean? Well, I've added processing for the '-dpi' parameter to my local builds, and I'll probably release a new test build within a few days that includes processing for the parameter. Until then, Harold From genisiob@pilot.msu.edu Fri Jun 29 08:49:00 2001 From: genisiob@pilot.msu.edu (Brian Michael Genisio) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:49:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree without /tmp dir? Message-ID: <200106291549.f5TFn6Y21500@pilot21.cl.msu.edu> I am trying to package XFree, so it will run directly from a CD. So I put all the DLLs necessary, and the config files and fonts, and set all the font paths. There is only one thing stopping me!!!! the XLock file!!!! it wants to go to the /tmp dir. Is there a way to get rid of this error :? _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: mkdir(/tmp/.X11-unix) failed, errno = 2 I just want to tell it to put it somewhere else. The X server is run from a bash script (I also included bash on the CD), so I have tried doing a "mkdir /tmp" before executing the X server, but it wont let me. When I look a bit harder, I see that the root directory structure of the CD is /cygdrive/d . Likewise, /cygdrive/c is the C drive. I assume this is bash's default if Cygwin is not installed. Of course, /tmp will not create, since the root directory is not really a file system. If I could just tell X to change where the .X11-unix directory should be created, Everything will work fine :) Any ideas? Brian -- --------------------------- \\|// Brian Genisio (o o) genisiob@pilot.msu.edu ~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ian.pilcher@home.com Fri Jun 29 08:59:00 2001 From: ian.pilcher@home.com (Ian Pilcher) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:59:00 -0000 Subject: Setting dots per inch References: Message-ID: <3B3CA4C8.2010001@home.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > > What's all that mean? Well, I've added processing for the '-dpi' parameter > to my local builds, and I'll probably release a new test build within a few > days that includes processing for the parameter. > Thanks! Go Green! -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher ian.pilcher@home.com ======================================================================== From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jun 29 11:09:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:09:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree without /tmp dir? References: <200106291549.f5TFn6Y21500@pilot21.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Brian Michael Genisio wrote: > I am trying to package XFree, so it will run directly from a CD. So I put all > the DLLs necessary, and the config files and fonts, and set all the font paths. > > There is only one thing stopping me!!!! the XLock file!!!! it wants to go to > the /tmp dir. Is there a way to get rid of this error :? > > _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: mkdir(/tmp/.X11-unix) failed, errno = 2 > > I just want to tell it to put it somewhere else. The X server is run from a > bash script (I also included bash on the CD), so I have tried doing a "mkdir > /tmp" before executing the X server, but it wont let me. > > When I look a bit harder, I see that the root directory structure of the CD is > /cygdrive/d . Likewise, /cygdrive/c is the C drive. I assume this is bash's > default if Cygwin is not installed. Of course, /tmp will not create, since the > root directory is not really a file system. > > If I could just tell X to change where the .X11-unix directory should be > created, Everything will work fine :) > Yes! Mount /tmp to some useful place. just do mount 'c:\TEMP' /tmp this will redirect all file access to /tmp/foo to c:\\TEMP\\foo instead of c:\temp you should take the default tempdir for your system (c:\dos\temp, c:\windows\temp, c:\tmp ... ) HTH ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org phone: +49 3725 3498080 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 29 14:43:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 38 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 38 to my server development page: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test38.exe.bz2 (1050 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20010629-1717.tar.bz2 (66 KB) Changes: 1) Pick up the value of the monitorResolution global variable that is set by passing the '-dpi' parameter to XWin.exe 2) Add file winlayer.c, which provides the source code framework, and initial implementations for RandR and miext/layer support. Unfortunately, the layer support doesn't work correctly when it is enabled. The server just draws a black screen when layer support is enabled. I would appreciate it if someone with layer experience or some extra time on their hands would look into finishing this. 3) Make PseudoColor, as opposed to StaticColor, the default visual class when running the GDI engine at 8 bits per pixel. Enjoy, Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 30 08:46:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:46:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 MISC Extension Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E3E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Harold Can you keep #define BuildXF86MiscExt to NO in cygwin.cf? The XFfree86-MISC does not compile anyway. You ca do a xdpyinfo and you will not see it. Turning #define BuildXF86MiscExt to YES in Cygwin.cf compiles a couple of Xlcinets (e.g. xgc) which looks for XFree86-MISC Extension and fail to start. Suhaib From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 30 13:59:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:59:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 MISC Extension Message-ID: > Can you keep #define BuildXF86MiscExt to NO in cygwin.cf? > The XFfree86-MISC does not compile anyway. You ca do a xdpyinfo and you > will not see it. Turning #define BuildXF86MiscExt to YES in Cygwin.cf > compiles a couple of Xlcinets (e.g. xgc) which looks for XFree86-MISC > Extension and fail to start. That's funny. I'm sitting here looking at libXxf86misc.a and watching xgc running. What were you complaining about again? :) Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 30 14:03:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:03:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 MISC Extension Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E43@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 4:58 PM > To: cygx > Cc: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: XFree86 MISC Extension > > > Can you keep #define BuildXF86MiscExt to NO in cygwin.cf? > > The XFfree86-MISC does not compile anyway. You ca do a xdpyinfo and > you > > will not see it. Turning #define BuildXF86MiscExt to YES in > Cygwin.cf > > compiles a couple of Xlcinets (e.g. xgc) which looks for XFree86- > MISC > > Extension and fail to start. > > That's funny. I'm sitting here looking at libXxf86misc.a and watching > xgc > running. What were you complaining about again? :) > > Harold Someone from University complain last time (for XF86 4.0.3) xgc was complaining XFree86-MISC extension is not found. I was able to reproduce the problem. Did you try xdpyinfo? I think it should list under built extensions but it does not. Therefore turned it off and no one complain this problem for 4.1.0 version. Suhaib From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 30 14:05:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:05:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 MISC Extension References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E43@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: > Someone from University complain last time (for XF86 4.0.3) xgc was > complaining XFree86-MISC extension is not found. I was able to reproduce > the problem. Did you try xdpyinfo? I think it should list under built > extensions but it does not. Therefore turned it off and no one complain > this problem for 4.1.0 version. Well, you gave me a two test cases that both worked. Just give me a test case that fails... Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 30 14:10:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:10:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 MISC Extension Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E45@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > > Someone from University complain last time (for XF86 4.0.3) xgc was > > complaining XFree86-MISC extension is not found. I was able to > reproduce > > the problem. Did you try xdpyinfo? I think it should list under > built > > extensions but it does not. Therefore turned it off and no one > complain > > this problem for 4.1.0 version. > > Well, you gave me a two test cases that both worked. Just give me a > test > case that fails... > > Harold Well, then I maybe wrong. It works. We will see if someone reports again a problem with XFree86-MISC extension. Suhaib From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 30 14:14:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:14:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 MISC Extension References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E45@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: > Well, then I maybe wrong. It works. We will see if someone > reports again a > problem with XFree86-MISC extension. I admit, it doesn't show up in xdpyinfo, and it seems that it should. It may just be a fluke that it isn't showing up in xdpyinfo... who knows? Sounds like a good idea to wait until someone complains again, with a reproducible test case. We could send an email to the last reporter, I suppose? Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jun 30 15:21:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 MISC Extension Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2505E47@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 5:14 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: XFree86 MISC Extension > > > Well, then I maybe wrong. It works. We will see if someone > > reports again a > > problem with XFree86-MISC extension. > > I admit, it doesn't show up in xdpyinfo, and it seems that it should. > It > may just be a fluke that it isn't showing up in xdpyinfo... who knows? > Sounds like a good idea to wait until someone complains again, with a > reproducible test case. We could send an email to the last reporter, > I > suppose? > > Harold Well if it is not showing up in xdpyinfo output then, we will have complaints. Some software and/or scripts use xdpyinfo to query extensions and if dxpyinfo | grep XFree86-MISC does not return then some Clients and/or scripts use to start software will fail, even though we this XFree86-MISC extension is compiled? Suhaib From horizonscience@mindspring.com Sat Jun 30 21:08:00 2001 From: horizonscience@mindspring.com (Ed Mullen) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 21:08:00 -0000 Subject: Errors with xFree86 Message-ID: I would like to use OpenDX which is a free data analysis program from IBM but I was told I would need something called an "x-server" (whatever that is). I haven't downloaded OpenDX yet, but I downloaded cygwin and xFree86-4.1.0 as the xServer. I followed all the instructions to download and install xFree86-4.1.0 and it seemed to go fine. There were no errors. The last page of the xFree86 instructions say that to start xFree86 you should doublclick startxwin.bat. I did this and received two DOS screens and one large gray screen with an "X" that moves across the screen in response to the mouse. I have no clue what this is supposed to do, but the two DOS screens appear to have error messages on them. One of the DOS screens says the following: Path not found - \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 Path not found Invalid path, not directory, or directory not empty Invalid switch - /B Invalid switch - /B Invalid switch - /B Invalid switch - /B C:\WINDOWS\Desktop> The other DOS screen says: winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Windowed, command line depth: 32, using depth: 16 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height 742 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! Based on the errors in these DOS screens, it would appear that xFree86-4.1.0 is not working properly (although I admit I wouldn't know what it looks like if it was working properly). Does anyone know what the problem could be? Ed Mullen From Alf.Vahau@upng.ac.pg Sat Jun 30 21:46:00 2001 From: Alf.Vahau@upng.ac.pg (Alfred Vahau) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 21:46:00 -0000 Subject: Errors with xFree86 References: Message-ID: <3B3EB5A0.713A5A66@upng.ac.pg> Here's a reply to Ed Mullens query which I forgot to cc to cygwin-xfree. Alfred Vahau Find attached one solution to your problem. It's not everything that you want to know but hope this is a start as its quite a recently asked question. Alfred Vahau School of Natural and Physical Sciences University of Papua New Guinea email: alf.vahau@upng.ac.pg Subject: RE: Can't get up and running on Windows 98 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:21:39 -0400 From: Suhaib Siddiqi To: "'Dan Draeger'" , "'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'" > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Draeger [ mailto:ddraeger@umich.edu ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:06 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: Can't get up and running on Windows 98 > > > I'm using X 4.03. I extracted all the binaries and run > startxwin.bat in DOS > and all I get is a blank window with an X-shaped cursor. How > do I run and X That means X-server is runing... you need to edit /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat and remove /B you will find for xterm etc. Windows 9x/ME does not accept /B option for start, therefore xterm failed. Suhaib > terminal? Here are the messages that come up on the console... > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Command line depth: 32, > using depth: 16 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 > height 704 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 > 0000001f RGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > error opening security policy file > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > from li > st! > > Any ideas? > Ed Mullen wrote: > I would like to use OpenDX which is a free data analysis program from IBM > but I was told I would need something called an "x-server" (whatever that > is). I haven't downloaded OpenDX yet, but I downloaded cygwin and > xFree86-4.1.0 as the xServer. I followed all the instructions to download > and install xFree86-4.1.0 and it seemed to go fine. There were no errors. > The last page of the xFree86 instructions say that to start xFree86 you > should doublclick startxwin.bat. I did this and received two DOS screens > and one large gray screen with an "X" that moves across the screen in > response to the mouse. I have no clue what this is supposed to do, but the > two DOS screens appear to have error messages on them. > > One of the DOS screens says the following: > > Path not found - \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 > Path not found > Invalid path, not directory, > or directory not empty > Invalid switch - /B > Invalid switch - /B > Invalid switch - /B > Invalid switch - /B > > C:\WINDOWS\Desktop> > > The other DOS screen says: > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 4 > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Windowed, command line depth: 32, using > depth: > 16 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient width 1018 height 742 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Returning > winFinishScreenInitFB () - Calling winCreateDefColormap () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing > from li > st! > > Based on the errors in these DOS screens, it would appear that xFree86-4.1.0 > is not working properly (although I admit I wouldn't know what it looks like > if it was working properly). Does anyone know what the problem could be? > > Ed Mullen