Nicolas, A very good tip. The error message doesn't show up when I use -xkb. Now I need to find out why. Thanks, Harold -----Original Message----- From: Escuder Nicolas [mailto:n.escuder@alineanet.com] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:37 AM To: huntharo@msu.edu Subject: fds_on_hold :o) Hello just start XWin with -kb option and konsole will work fine :) see you Nicolas