From mario.ohnewald@gmx.de Thu Aug 1 00:23:00 2002 From: mario.ohnewald@gmx.de (Mario Ohnewald) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:23:00 -0000 Subject: newbie - export X(-Applications) from Linux Server In-Reply-To: <3D47FCC9.3000704@msu.edu> Message-ID: <000701c2392c$47a70e70$2b0aa8c0@local.aradex.com> Hello! > Mario, > > From what I know, doing this doesn't always work: > > install@MUNICH ~ > > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ./XWin.exe & > > [1] 108 > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > dex@192.168.10.123's password: > > Last login: Sat Jan 5 06:42:18 2002 > > Have a lot of fun... > > dex@linuxserver:~> xclock > > What you need to do instead is: > install@MUNICH ~ > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ./XWin.exe & > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ./xterm.exe & > I did that, and thats what i get: install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin $ ./xterm.exe ./xterm Xt error: Can't open display: ;/ here is the logfile: ------------------------- install@MUNICH /tmp $ cat XWin.log OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0 winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (EE) Unable to locate/open config file Error reading config file winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1152 h: 864 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 786 r 1146 l 0 b 786 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 2292 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 bpp 16 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" > Now, from the xterm in Cygwin/XFree86 (you are getting a > Cygwin/XFree86 > window, right? If not something else is broken and you need > to send in > /tmp/XWin.log) run the ssh command: > [xterm window] > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > Now you can run xclock and it should work. > > Harold > Cheers! Mario From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Aug 1 00:27:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:27:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731173039.GB3120@redhat.com> Message-ID: <003401c2392c$e4787900$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:51:08AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > >--- Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:14:50AM +0200, Ralf Habacker wrote: > >> >Any comments ? > >> > >> Are there any licensing issues with qt? Is the open source license > >> compliant > >> with cygwin's? > >> > >> http://cygwin.com/licensing.html > >> > > > >Ghostscript's license [The aladdin license (APFL?)] is much more > >restrictive than the QPL. > > If we are not in compliance with Ghostscript then that is a problem. It > is entirely separate from whether qt is compatible with the GPL + > Cygwin. If you were aware of issues with ghostcript you should have > raised them. > > >Besides when you compile QT, you'll get a screen which shows how the > >QPL is mutually inclusive of the GPL. > > So, if I show you a screen which says it's exclusive of the GPL, you'll > just give up? > > Since I don't accept the word of every person with a web site out there > who thinks they are compliant with the GPL, I don't see why I should accept > the words of a screen. Is there an independent corroboration of this > anywhere? > This may not be an independent corroboration for you, but what Nicholas means is the screen below, which is printed before configuring qt and it said that one can choose the license beetwen qpl or GPL. It tells its own tale. ~/src/cvs.kde-cygwin.sf.net/qt-2 $ cygwin/configure.cygwin This is the Qt Free Edition. You are licensed to use this software under the terms of either the Q Public License (QPL) or the GNU General Public License (GPL). Type 'Q' to view the Q Public License. Type 'G' to view the GNU General Public License. Type 'yes' to accept this license offer. Type 'no' to decline this license offer. Do you accept the terms of the license? Ralf From strube@physik3.gwdg.de Thu Aug 1 00:40:00 2002 From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:40:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles using XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1 Message-ID: <200208010740.JAA29580@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> Some months ago I built xfig with an easily self-compiled static libXaw3d.a. Now after installing XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1, I rebuilt xfig. This failed with a plenty of errors indicating multiple entry-point definitions (from Xaw3d and Xt) and auto-import errors (with respect to SME). The X libraries used were -lXpm -lXaw3d -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 . Tentatively I omitted -lXt, which did not work either, resulting in an excessive list of other auto-import errors. Similar errors were reported before under subject "Problems with libXaw3d [Was: [ITP] FreeCiv-1.12.0-1 for X" From strube@physik3.gwdg.de Thu Aug 1 00:53:00 2002 From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:53:00 -0000 Subject: lesstif confuses app-defaults Message-ID: <200208010753.JAA29584@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> After upgrading XFree86 and installing lesstif (so far, I had used my own lesstif), I found that the directory tree was confused: instead of a symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults -> /etc/X11/app-defaults, there was a directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults containing a symlink app-defaults and a file Mwm (the latter should rather have been in /etc/X11/app-defaults). Thus no application (except mwm) could find its app-defaults file. This is obviously a bug in the lesstif tar file. (I just found this effect has been reported before in 2002-05/msf00296.html but is still not fixed.) From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 1 01:03:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 01:03:00 -0000 Subject: Fw: Problem with Windows95 and XFree In-Reply-To: <20020731085242.3324.qmail@webmails.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, frederic bregier wrote: > Well, it seems that you'r right. > In the w95 box, I got the following : > OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B > Querying devices using ioctl > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > Querying devices using internal function > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 Hm, does not give me much information :( Can you please send me the windows registry keys HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Net open the registry editor, choose export from the file menu and enter the above strings in the field where the subtree is chosen. I also upload a slightly modified version of the ls_netdev program which prints at least some of the rgistry keys while traversing the tree. Can you please download and run it and send me the output again. > So it is the case you noticed. > With the other Windows box, I got the > real IP address with this command. Win95 uses some wierd hunt-through-registry to gather all information on the installed network interfaces. Microsoft has developed a library which simplifies this hunt. I guess it's in the winsock2 update. http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/contents/WUAdminTools/S_WUNetworkingTools/W95Sockets2/Default.asp > > Why does cygwin1.dll try to get the IP address > since I passed the -from option in the command > line of XWin. It should use this address > and ignore the cygwin1.dll request in this case, shouldn't it ? No. The from parameter is only needed to find the correct interface if more than one interface is found. The system call also gets some extra information as broadcast address and network mask. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 03:10:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 03:10:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles using XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1 In-Reply-To: <200208010740.JAA29580@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> Message-ID: <20020801101034.34429.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> --- Hans Werner Strube wrote: > Some months ago I built xfig with an easily self-compiled static > libXaw3d.a. > Now after installing XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1, I rebuilt xfig. This > failed > with a plenty of errors indicating multiple entry-point definitions > (from Xaw3d and Xt) and auto-import errors (with respect to SME). > The X > libraries used were -lXpm -lXaw3d -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 . > Tentatively I omitted -lXt, which did not work either, resulting in > an > excessive list of other auto-import errors. > Similar errors were reported before under subject > "Problems with libXaw3d [Was: [ITP] FreeCiv-1.12.0-1 for X" Try putting Xaw3d later in the link line, like: -lXpm -lXmu -lXt -lXaw3d -lXext -lX11 Admittedly, I'm having some trouble myself now. Its beginning to look like there was a reason Xaw was compiled statically. I'm trying to track down some of the people who intially worked on this project to ask why they compiled Xaw statically. However, it is interesting to note that there are no problems with compiling Xaw or Xaw3d as dll's on OS/2. I have a suspicion that some of the auto-imported data is being messed up. As I said to Lapo, I'm working on it. If worse comes to worse, I'll just re-release as a static library until I can figure out how to fix the dll. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 03:37:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 03:37:00 -0000 Subject: /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh vs. grep In-Reply-To: <20020731232510.A66175@king.cts.com> Message-ID: <20020801103751.36664.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> This is more appropriate for the Cygwin/XFree list. --- Keith Thompson wrote: > The script /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh includes the following line: > > eval "echo ${PATH} | grep -q ${X11PATH}" > > This is executed before $PATH has been set, resulting in an error > message: > > grep: Command not found. > > The fix is simple: change "grep" to "/bin/grep". > > (00xfree.sh uses "/bin/grep".) > > -- > Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst@cts.com > > San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> > > Schroedinger does Shakespeare: "To be *and* not to be" > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Aug 1 05:35:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:35:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731173039.GB3120@redhat.com> Message-ID: <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > Since I don't accept the word of every person with a web site out there > who thinks they are compliant with the GPL, I don't see why I should accept > the words of a screen. Is there an independent corroboration of this > anywhere? > See what trolltech says about this http://www.trolltech.com/developer/licensing/index.html "The Qt Free Edition (version 2.2 and later) is released under the Open Source license QPL, and GPL. The Qt Free Edition may be freely copied and distributed, put on ftp-sites and CD-ROMs etc. Qt Free Edition is provided with no warranty and no support." What do you wan't more ? Ralf From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 05:40:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:40:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020801124006.37665.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ralf Habacker wrote: > What do you wan't more ? The expression is: "What more do you want?" Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 05:41:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:41:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020801124006.37665.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020801124149.77302.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > --- Ralf Habacker wrote: > > What do you wan't more ? > > The expression is: > "What more do you want?" > > Cheers, > Nicholas Arrrggg! I forgot about the Reply-To munging! Sorry, this wasn't intended for the list. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 1 06:37:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 06:37:00 -0000 Subject: keys not mapping in application login prompt Message-ID: Hi, I have 2 boxes both running win2k and the same identical xfree 4.2.0 version running on them. The key mappings seem fine on both until I run an application which prompts for the username/password. On one machine, when I type in my username it prints odd characters, on the other machine the username prints out fine. Can anyone guide me on how to resolve this problem please? Many thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 1 06:38:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 06:38:00 -0000 Subject: newbie - export X(-Applications) from Linux Server In-Reply-To: <000701c2392c$47a70e70$2b0aa8c0@local.aradex.com> Message-ID: Mario, After launching XWin and before launching xterm, you need to: export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 This is why you should really be using startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, as outlined in the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mario Ohnewald > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:23 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: newbie - export X(-Applications) from Linux Server > > > Hello! > > Mario, > > > > From what I know, doing this doesn't always work: > > > install@MUNICH ~ > > > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > > $ ./XWin.exe & > > > [1] 108 > > > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > > dex@192.168.10.123's password: > > > Last login: Sat Jan 5 06:42:18 2002 > > > Have a lot of fun... > > > dex@linuxserver:~> xclock > > > > What you need to do instead is: > > install@MUNICH ~ > > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ./XWin.exe & > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ./xterm.exe & > > > > I did that, and thats what i get: > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ./xterm.exe > ./xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > > ;/ > here is the logfile: > ------------------------- > install@MUNICH /tmp > $ cat XWin.log > OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > (EE) Unable to locate/open config file > Error reading config file > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f > InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 > winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per > pixel > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1152 h: 864 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 786 r > 1146 l 0 b 786 > t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 2292 > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB > 6 d 16 bpp > 16 > winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit - returning > (EE) No primary keyboard configured > (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard > Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = > "(null)" Options = > "(null)" > > Now, from the xterm in Cygwin/XFree86 (you are getting a > > Cygwin/XFree86 > > window, right? If not something else is broken and you need > > to send in > > /tmp/XWin.log) run the ssh command: > > [xterm window] > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > > > Now you can run xclock and it should work. > > > > Harold > > > > Cheers! > Mario > From gte120r@prism.gatech.edu Thu Aug 1 07:09:00 2002 From: gte120r@prism.gatech.edu (Curt) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 07:09:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard malfunctioning Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20020801100522.00abe0a0@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Hi, I am having problems with my keyboard working when using XFree86. Everything works fine until I run an X application on a remote system, namely xloadl. I get the application window, but I can't type in anything. The only keys that do anything on the keyboard are the spacebar, the Tab key, and the enter key. Is this a problem with my configuration, or with the server? Just as a background, I am new to UNIX and I work with Linux a little bit. Thanks, Curtis Neff Graduate Research Assistant Materials Science and Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology office (404) 385-0698 fax (404) 894-9140 From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Aug 1 08:01:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:01:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731175736.91097.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002601c2396c$505f76c0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > > Well, then, why all of the fuss in cygwin-patches where you were > > trying > > to modify windows headers? It doesn't seem like this is an > > entirely > > "unix" port: > > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-patches/2002-q3/msg00175.html > > > > So, while this may have been discussed before, I'm not sure we had > > all of the details then. > > Well actually, it would be totally Win32 header free, if it weren't > for the fact that Chris January added an original patch to better > display current drives in konqueror. As for the dns stuff, that was > already present in the Unix/X11 version, which is covered by the > QPL/GPL. I think it is necessary to say detailed, what the changes on the qt port are. The qt-2 port of the qt/x11 is based on the official qt/x11-2.3.1 release from trolltech. Qt manages the platform specific parts in os specific files like filenane_x11.ext or filename_win32.ext. In the qt/x11 release the _win32. files are not contained, although some win32 code (dns code for example) is still contained with the lack of an os detection code, for which I have added code, based on an msdn example. Chris January has written some native stuff for file open/reading, I have added some native stuff for a faster Qdir implementation using Find(First|Next)File(). Does anyone see a problem with this ? Ralf From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 1 08:36:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard malfunctioning Message-ID: I'll bet you have Caps Lock and/or Num Lock on. Turn them off and see if that makes a difference. I addressed this with a hack awhile back. Look here: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html >From: Curt >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: keyboard malfunctioning >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:10:48 -0400 > >Hi, >I am having problems with my keyboard working when using XFree86. >Everything works fine until I run an X application on a remote system, >namely xloadl. I get the application window, but I can't type in anything. >The only keys that do anything on the keyboard are the spacebar, the Tab >key, and the enter key. Is this a problem with my configuration, or with >the server? Just as a background, I am new to UNIX and I work with Linux a >little bit. >Thanks, >Curtis Neff > >Graduate Research Assistant >Materials Science and Engineering >Georgia Institute of Technology >office (404) 385-0698 >fax (404) 894-9140 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 1 08:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard malfunctioning References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020801100522.00abe0a0@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3D495617.80707@msu.edu> Curt wrote: > Hi, > I am having problems with my keyboard working when using XFree86. > Everything works fine until I run an X application on a remote system, > namely xloadl. I get the application window, but I can't type in > anything. The only keys that do anything on the keyboard are the > spacebar, the Tab key, and the enter key. Is this a problem with my > configuration, or with the server? Just as a background, I am new to > UNIX and I work with Linux a little bit. > Thanks, > Curtis Neff > > Graduate Research Assistant > Materials Science and Engineering > Georgia Institute of Technology > office (404) 385-0698 > fax (404) 894-9140 > Curtis, Turn NumLock off and try it again. Harold From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 1 10:10:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:10:00 -0000 Subject: ssh-agent in startxwin.sh? Message-ID: Hello, Why is ssh-agent in startwin.sh? Harold, I think you forgot to remove it from your script ;) And if you didn't, then you didn't add the dependency to openssh. Jehan From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Thu Aug 1 11:46:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:46:00 -0000 Subject: lesstif confuses app-defaults In-Reply-To: <200208010753.JAA29584@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> Message-ID: <20020801184648.23256.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Dou you manage to use mwm normally ? Trying to use lesstiff with the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/mwm/system.mwmrc copied in $HOME/.mwmrc doesn't function. (even it's written in README in the same directory) It reports : Warning: Cannot convert string "rom14" to type FontStruct (font problem, I think) and menus don't work, I cannot move/resize/close/... windows. --- Hans Werner Strube a ??crit??: > After upgrading XFree86 and installing lesstif (so far, I had used my > own > lesstif), I found that the directory tree was confused: > instead of a symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults -> > /etc/X11/app-defaults, > there was a directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults containing a > symlink > app-defaults and a file Mwm (the latter should rather have been in > /etc/X11/app-defaults). Thus no application (except mwm) could find > its > app-defaults file. This is obviously a bug in the lesstif tar file. > (I just found this effect has been reported before in > 2002-05/msf00296.html > but is still not fixed.) ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 1 14:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:26:00 -0000 Subject: ssh-agent in startxwin.sh? References: Message-ID: <3D49A792.8010103@msu.edu> Jehan, I had probably asked the same question of others at some point. Remember, I inherited the initial versions of these scripts from others. There were no comments, whatsoever, in the initial versions of these scripts. As I have said before, I am a terrible computer *user*, so I have difficulty evaluating whether a command such as ssh-agent should stay or be taken out. Can you do a search of the mailing list archives for ssh-agent and let me know what the conclusion was, if any, about removing it or keeping it? I am guessing that you are probably right... since I know a little more about ssh now and I can guess that ssh-agent is only useful to users that know what they are using it for, and you are right that there should be a dependency on ssh if we are using ssh-agent. Just let me know what you uncover and I will probably remove ssh-agent from startxwin.sh. Harold Jehan wrote: > Hello, > > Why is ssh-agent in startwin.sh? Harold, I think you forgot to remove > it from your script ;) > And if you didn't, then you didn't add the dependency to openssh. > > Jehan > > > From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 1 16:34:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:34:00 -0000 Subject: ssh-agent in startxwin.sh? References: <3D49A792.8010103@msu.edu> Message-ID: Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Jehan, > > I had probably asked the same question of others at some point. > Remember, I inherited the initial versions of these scripts from > others. There were no comments, whatsoever, in the initial versions of > these scripts. As I have said before, I am a terrible computer *user*, > so I have difficulty evaluating whether a command such as ssh-agent > should stay or be taken out. > > Can you do a search of the mailing list archives for ssh-agent and let > me know what the conclusion was, if any, about removing it or keeping it? > > I am guessing that you are probably right... since I know a little more > about ssh now and I can guess that ssh-agent is only useful to users > that know what they are using it for, and you are right that there > should be a dependency on ssh if we are using ssh-agent. Just let me > know what you uncover and I will probably remove ssh-agent from > startxwin.sh. I couldn't find any discussion about this issue. AFAIK, ssh-agent is only used to log on a ssh session without having to enter a password. It has nothing to do with X. Moreover the batch file doesn't use it and works well. And just for testing, I removed it from my sh script and was still able to start X with wmaker and an xterm. So I think it can safely be removed from the script. The only drawback I can see is for people who rely on ssh-agent being loaded with startxwin. But they will just have to modify their start script or, better, modify their .xinitrc. Jehan From cgf@redhat.com Thu Aug 1 17:09:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:09:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> References: <20020731173039.GB3120@redhat.com> <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020802000931.GC30821@redhat.com> On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:35:34PM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote: >> Since I don't accept the word of every person with a web site out there >> who thinks they are compliant with the GPL, I don't see why I should accept >> the words of a screen. Is there an independent corroboration of this >> anywhere? >> > >See what trolltech says about this >http://www.trolltech.com/developer/licensing/index.html > >"The Qt Free Edition (version 2.2 and later) is released under the Open Source >license QPL, and GPL. The Qt Free Edition may be freely copied and distributed, >put on ftp-sites and CD-ROMs etc. Qt Free Edition is provided with no warranty >and no support." > >What do you wan't more ? Ok. I yield. I'll accept that the licensing for this package is in compliance with Cygwin's. Thanks for humoring me. cgf From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 03:37:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 03:37:00 -0000 Subject: keys not mapping in application login prompt Message-ID: This problem was caused by the numlock key. User reports that keys work correctly when he runs xfree with his windows admin logon, but not his user logon. JS. >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: keys not mapping in application login prompt >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:37:00 +0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: [163.166.150.21] >Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by >mc1-f6.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 1 Aug >2002 06:37:07 -0700 >Received: (qmail 6442 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 2002 13:37:03 -0000 >Received: (qmail 6434 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 13:37:02 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.147) by >sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 13:37:02 -0000 >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; >Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:37:00 -0700 >Received: from 163.166.150.21 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;Thu, 01 >Aug 2002 13:37:00 GMT >Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Subscribe: >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: , > >Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Message-ID: >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 13:37:00.0981 (UTC) >FILETIME=[83BF9650:01C23960] >Return-Path: cygwin-xfree-return-10999-vervoom=hotmail.com@cygwin.com > >Hi, > >I have 2 boxes both running win2k and the same identical xfree 4.2.0 >version running on them. The key mappings seem fine on both until I run an >application which prompts for the username/password. On one machine, when I >type in my username it prints odd characters, on the other machine the >username prints out fine. > >Can anyone guide me on how to resolve this problem please? > >Many thanks, > >JS. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 03:46:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 03:46:00 -0000 Subject: telling your app to use the solaris font server Message-ID: I have tried this with Linux and Windows XFree and get the same results. When I run an x app called Carmen, it displays dotted square characters after the days/months. This app is running on a Solaris box so I wondered if it might work if I connect to the solaris font server. I don't want to do this with xdmcp (as I couldn't get it to work anyway), so I wondered is there a way to tell the X app to use the solaris font server instead of xfree's when it gets run ? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 05:47:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 05:47:00 -0000 Subject: telling your app to use the solaris font server Message-ID: I managed to fix this by typing xset fp tcp/remote host:7100 before telnetting to the box and running the app. Thanks, JS. >I have tried this with Linux and Windows XFree and get the same results. >When I run an x app called Carmen, it displays dotted square characters >after the days/months. > >This app is running on a Solaris box so I wondered if it might work if I >connect to the solaris font server. I don't want to do this with xdmcp (as >I couldn't get it to work anyway), so I wondered is there a way to tell the >X app to use the solaris font server instead of xfree's when it gets run ? > >Thanks, > >JS. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 06:59:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 06:59:00 -0000 Subject: lesstif confuses app-defaults Message-ID: >From: Sylvain Petreolle >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: lesstif confuses app-defaults >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:46:48 +0200 (CEST) > [snip] >and menus don't work, I cannot move/resize/close/... windows. Probably because NumLock is on. Look here for a work-around: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 08:13:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade Message-ID: Hi, I upgraded xfree today from the cygwin site but now when I start up xfree I get the following: $ startx ./xmodmap: 132: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution X Error of failed request: 86 Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) Serial number of failed request: 8 access control disabled, clients can connect from any host Current serial number in output stream: 10 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 10:29:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:29:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade Message-ID: Perhaps you could post the contents of your .xinitrc file, so we can see the whole xmodmap command-line? >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade >Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:13:46 +0000 > >Hi, > >I upgraded xfree today from the cygwin site but now when I start up xfree I >get the following: > >$ startx > >./xmodmap: 132: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution >X Error of failed request: 86 > Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) > Serial number of failed request: 8 >access control disabled, clients can connect from any host > Current serial number in output stream: 10 > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 13:14:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade Message-ID: I'm at home now so can't get my .xinitrc file for you at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it just said something like 'xmodmap /etc/x11/xmodmap.uk &' or 'exec xmodmap /etc/x11/xmodmap.uk &' Thanks, JS. > >Perhaps you could post the contents of your .xinitrc file, so we can see >the whole xmodmap command-line? > >>From: "J S" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade >>Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:13:46 +0000 >> >>Hi, >> >>I upgraded xfree today from the cygwin site but now when I start up xfree >>I get the following: >> >>$ startx >> >>./xmodmap: 132: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution >>X Error of failed request: 86 >> Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) >> Serial number of failed request: 8 >>access control disabled, clients can connect from any host >> Current serial number in output stream: 10 >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From jseba@internet.com.uy Sat Aug 3 16:43:00 2002 From: jseba@internet.com.uy (Sebastian Filippini) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome+cygwin-xfree problem Message-ID: <1028418205.10353.11.camel@aperia> Hi, i have a PC running RedHat 7.1 with gnome. i'm using xdmcp to log in from a NT box running cygwin-xfree. at first it worked ok but when i installed ximian-gnome it happened that i coudn't move the windows anymore. nor minimize, maximize, close with x at the corner of the window etc. i think that is a cygwin-xfree server problem because it doesn't happen from the local linux-xfree server. i downgrade gnome but it didn't work. thanks From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sat Aug 3 16:56:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 16:56:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome+cygwin-xfree problem In-Reply-To: <1028418205.10353.11.camel@aperia> Message-ID: <20020803235657.81059.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> --- Sebastian Filippini a ??crit??: > Hi, perhaps the numlock-is-on bug ? try to disable numlock. > > i have a PC running RedHat 7.1 with gnome. i'm using xdmcp to log in > from a NT box running cygwin-xfree. at first it worked ok but when i > installed ximian-gnome it happened that i coudn't move the windows > anymore. nor minimize, maximize, close with x at the corner of the > window etc. i think that is a cygwin-xfree server problem because it > doesn't happen from the local linux-xfree server. i downgrade gnome > but > it didn't work. > > thanks ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From ksanders@mindspring.com Sat Aug 3 21:42:00 2002 From: ksanders@mindspring.com (Kerry Sanders) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:42:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: <000101c23b71$5adef6a0$6501a8c0@MARS> I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to login to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin batch file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: cygwin>XWin -unixkill & cygwin>xhost +earth cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I then export my display with the following command: export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error information: [uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 [uksand@earth uksand]$ I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Of course, my wife's machine (unnecessary in this example) is venus. :) From particle@bi.wakwak.com Sun Aug 4 20:13:00 2002 From: particle@bi.wakwak.com (Yoshiharu Kawai) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype Message-ID: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> hello. I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! How can I load the module? Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. -- Yoshiharu Kawai From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Sun Aug 4 20:54:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:54:00 -0000 Subject: [ITP] FreeCiv-1.12.0-1 for X (using libXaw) In-Reply-To: <3D2C5BB1.7010902@lapo.it> References: <3D2C5BB1.7010902@lapo.it> Message-ID: <3d4fddb3.289599672@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:07:13 +0200, Lapo Luchini wrote: >The following message is copied from message wrongly sent to >cygwin-apps@cygwin.com > >Now Nicholas Wourms has ported libXaw3D so maybe I should do a 1.12.0-2 >to use it... or maybe two separate binary packages are better? >One for libXaw (that is default) and one for libXaw3D? > >I think one binary package can be sufficient. > >Maybe I'll do a different binary package using GTK+, as soon as it's >ported, as ilbXaw version looks much worse. I have a GTK FreeCiv but not the capability to package it. These two will play ball... glib-1.2.10 gtk+-1.2.10 ...I'll root round for the options tomorrow. Also required: imlib. I happened across imlib-1.9.10 so that's what got used. gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 is lurking around but perhaps I was mistaken about it being needed at the time. Unfortunately the winmm audio option is a red herring: winmm != directx = no mixer. SDL-1.2.4 may be a viable approach (works here but is mingw). I could revisit that and see if it will build "properly". >---------------------------- >My first try, it uses libXaw, which is not as good-looking as GTK (but >is GTK available as a cygwin package?). GTK 1.2 is considered "done" isn't it? >I've seen the client crash one time, dunno if it's normal or usual, I'll >do more tests. Spurious quitting by the client via an assertion is "normal" (they get bugs reported) - a plain old crash isn't. The server ought to be rock solid. >Please notice that when the client hangs the server is still up so the >play can continue opening a new client and reconnectiong. >This package needs zlib as it includes support for compressed savegames >and/or scenarios. >This package needs libintl2 as it already includes support for many >languages. > >http://www.lapo.it/tmp/freeciv-1.12.0-1.tar.bz2 2.32Mb >http://www.lapo.it/tmp/freeciv-1.12.0-1-src.tar.bz2 3.93Mb > >@ freeciv >sdesc: "Freeciv is a multiplayer strategy game" >ldesc: "Freeciv is a free turn-based multiplayer strategy game, in which >each player becomes the leader of a civilization, fighting to obtain the >ultimate goal: > To become the greatest civilization. >Players of Civilization II? by Microprose? should feel at home, since >one aim of Freeciv is to have compatible rules. >Freeciv is maintained by an international team of coders and >enthusiasts, and is easily one of the most fun and addictive network >games out there!" >category: Games XFree86 >requires: cygwin XFree86-base libintl2 libiconv2 zlib >curr: 1.12.0-1 -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From edi@serbski-institut.de Mon Aug 5 00:26:00 2002 From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 00:26:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps In-Reply-To: <000101c23b71$5adef6a0$6501a8c0@MARS> References: <000101c23b71$5adef6a0$6501a8c0@MARS> Message-ID: <20020805.202312.74723480.edi@serbski-institut.de> From: "Kerry Sanders" Subject: Problem with running X apps Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:42:35 -0500 > I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to login > to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin batch > file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: > > cygwin>XWin -unixkill & > > cygwin>xhost +earth > > cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth > > > At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I then > export my display with the following command: > > export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 > > > When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error information: > > [uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo > Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 > [uksand@earth uksand]$ > > > > I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this > example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Looks like a DNS problem here. Have you tried with IP addresses instead of hostnames? Cheers Edi From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 01:27:00 2002 From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 01:27:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype In-Reply-To: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> References: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> Message-ID: <8bdsku091dna2tmtf8g5vloeeur086n7rp@4ax.com> You wrote in <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:14:35 +0900: > hello. > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! > How can I load the module? > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. The XWin.exe server has TrueType support built-in but you need to create a fonts.scale file in every font directory that you add to the font path that contains TrueType fonts. Joerg Pommnitz has written a nice little utility for creating these files called ttmkfdir. There's a version compiled for Cygwin at http://fundin.f2g.net/?download which includes a readme file with some ideas about how to add directories to your font path in your X start-up script. Regards, -- Sam Edge From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 5 02:54:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 02:54:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype In-Reply-To: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Yoshiharu Kawai wrote: > hello. > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! It has now support for reading XF86Config, but ... > How can I load the module? Cygwin-Xfree does not use the module loader. Instead, the libraries are compiled into XWin.exe > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. I just tried. It's not trivial. The cygwin mkfontdir has no support for TTFs. 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Still the same result. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of PD Dr. Edward Wornar Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:23 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; ksanders@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Problem with running X apps From: "Kerry Sanders" Subject: Problem with running X apps Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:42:35 -0500 > I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to > login to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin > batch file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: > > cygwin>XWin -unixkill & > > cygwin>xhost +earth > > cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth > > > At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I > then export my display with the following command: > > export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 > > > When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error > information: > > [uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo > Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 > [uksand@earth uksand]$ > > > > I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this > example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Looks like a DNS problem here. Have you tried with IP addresses instead of hostnames? Cheers Edi From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 09:10:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:10:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the provided startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an xterm. However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the DISPLAY variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned on: cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 cygwin> XWin & cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients right way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh will have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY and sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting errors that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and try again. >From: "Kerry Sanders" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: Problem with running X apps >Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:42:35 -0500 > >I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to login >to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin batch >file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: > >cygwin>XWin -unixkill & > >cygwin>xhost +earth > >cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth > > >At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I then >export my display with the following command: > > export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 > > >When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error information: > >[uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo >Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server >Xlib: No protocol specified >Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 >[uksand@earth uksand]$ > > > >I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this >example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Of course, my >wife's machine (unnecessary in this example) is venus. :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 09:15:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:15:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype Message-ID: Here's a thread RE ttmkfdir in the archive for this mailing list that might be useful: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-03/msg00098.html >From: Sam Edge >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: How to load libfreetype >Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:26:46 +0100 > >You wrote in <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> >in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:14:35 +0900: > > > hello. > > > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! > > How can I load the module? > > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. > >The XWin.exe server has TrueType support built-in but you need to >create a fonts.scale file in every font directory that you add to the >font path that contains TrueType fonts. > >Joerg Pommnitz has written a nice little utility for creating these >files called ttmkfdir. There's a version compiled for Cygwin at >http://fundin.f2g.net/?download which includes a readme file with some >ideas about how to add directories to your font path in your X >start-up script. > >Regards, >-- >Sam Edge _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 09:32:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:32:00 -0000 Subject: Question regarding mailing list archive... Message-ID: I have a question regarding the cygwin mailing list archives and don't know who to contact. Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction? The issue is that if I reply to a message sent to a list to which I subscribe (e.g. cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com), it shows up in the mailing list archive on the web, but does not get included as a "Follow-Up" link to the original message. Case in point. Here's the root message of a thread: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00031.html Note there are 2 follow-ups shown, but my reply is not among them, even though it was archived here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00039.html I also see that my reply has no "References". I'm guessing that my email client, hotmail, isn't doing something that it should. Is there a known work-around? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 09:37:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:37:00 -0000 Subject: Question regarding mailing list archive... Message-ID: Oops. Note that my reply was in response to this message: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00034.html and not the thread root as I originally stated. However, the "Follow- Up" and "References" behavior still applies. >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin@cygwin.com, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Question regarding mailing list archive... >Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:32:53 -0400 > >I have a question regarding the cygwin mailing list archives and don't know >who to contact. Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction? > >The issue is that if I reply to a message sent to a list to which I >subscribe (e.g. cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com), it shows up in the mailing list >archive on the web, but does not get included as a "Follow-Up" link to the >original message. > >Case in point. Here's the root message of a thread: > >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00031.html > >Note there are 2 follow-ups shown, but my reply is not among them, even >though it was archived here: > >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00039.html > >I also see that my reply has no "References". > >I'm guessing that my email client, hotmail, isn't doing something that it >should. Is there a known work-around? > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From moins20@ifrance.com Mon Aug 5 10:25:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:25:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> Hello, I'm connecting to a AIX box. Since my laptop has a french keyboard layout I first managed to build a french keymap. xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m fr /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/fr.xkm And then I use a ms-dos batch script to launch my X client with the right options... @echo off d: chdir d:\cygwin\bin bash -c "/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe :0 -query aixbox +kb -xkbmap fr -fullscreen - unixkill" First of all, I have to use +kb in order to have my fr keymap working, if I use -kb (like mentioned in the FAQ) I'll be under default (US) keymap. Everything goes right until I try to print some special characters like '|' or '\', which are accessible with the famous 'Alt Gr' key. In fact the Alt Gr key simply does not work at all, I've found several usefull hints in the FAQ but none really solved my problem. The most efficient action is to do a xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' just after login in... This way I can have at least one dtterm accepting my Alt_R signal and fully understanding it as a regular Mode_switch. But unfortunately this will works once (in only one dtterm). I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the did'nt give up) ? From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 5 11:04:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:04:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users References: <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> Message-ID: <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> Stephane, Have you tried turning 'NumLock' off when you use XDMCP to connect to your AIX machine? NumLock used to be ``server handled'' which means that the X Server sees that NumLock is pushed and it sends the number keys for the numeric keypad; when it sees that NumLock is not pushed, the server sends clients the arrow keys, home, end, pg up, pg down, etc. NumLock was added as a ``modifier key'' within the last few years. This means that X Clients must check whether NumLock is pushed to determine how to interpret each key. The problem here is broken X Server/Xlib/X Clients that check for AltGr via some sort of check such as: if (CapsLock) { /* do something */ } else if (ScrollLock) { /* do something */ } else { /* assume AltGr is pushed */ } These broken implementations were written to assume that any modifier value equal to or above the highest-known modifier value used at the time was the modifier corresponding to the highest-known modifier value at that time. In other words, if AltGr was modifier 4 then the broken implementation would treat any modifiers >= 4 as AltGr. NumLock is essentially modifer 5 in this case (that's probably not the actual value), so 5 >= 4 causes the broken programs to interpret NumLock incorrectly. The strange thing about all of this is that we copied the XFree86-linux code for keyboard support. That code treats NumLock as a modifier. The code that we lifted must only be used for certain keyboards or on certain platforms because most XFree86-linux users report that the problem does not affect them, while AIX, et al are affected. The main drawback to modifying the numeric keypad key codes when we see that NumLock is on is that we cannot seem to catch all cases and handle them properly. That is, we used to translate numeric keypad codes before and we never got it quite right. People were always complaining that some key did not work as it was supposed to. These complaints went away after we made NumLock a modifier. So, try turning NumLock off and let us all rejoice if you have success. Harold Stephane Poirey wrote: > > Hello, > I'm connecting to a AIX box. Since my laptop has a french keyboard layout I > first managed to build a french keymap. > > xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m fr /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/fr.xkm > > And then I use a ms-dos batch script to launch my X client with the right > options... > > @echo off > d: > chdir d:\cygwin\bin > bash -c "/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe :0 -query aixbox +kb -xkbmap fr -fullscreen - > unixkill" > > First of all, I have to use +kb in order to have my fr keymap working, if I > use -kb (like mentioned in the FAQ) I'll be under default (US) keymap. > > Everything goes right until I try to print some special characters like '|' > or '\', which are accessible with the famous 'Alt Gr' key. > In fact the Alt Gr key simply does not work at all, > > I've found several usefull hints in the FAQ but none really solved my problem. > > The most efficient action is to do a > > xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' > > just after login in... This way I can have at least one dtterm accepting my > Alt_R signal and fully understanding it as a regular Mode_switch. > But unfortunately this will works once (in only one dtterm). > > > I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is > probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted > to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the > did'nt give up) ? From briangenisio@yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 11:19:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X Message-ID: <20020805181914.85829.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, Its been a while since I have posted or read... I unsubscribed a few months ago after a long vacation, and have not followed since. Sorry to be absent. Anyways, I am doing a bit of research into how to solve a problem, and I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app in Windows, and display on an X server. Is this possible? Has anyone done anything like this? I have written a few java apps in my day, but of course, they use the windows native graphics environment. Any ideas? Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Mon Aug 5 11:24:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:24:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > Anyways, I am doing a bit of research into how to solve a > problem, and I > thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java > app in Windows, and > display on an X server. Is this possible? Has anyone done > anything like this? I use cygwin as my NT java development environment - however I use the NT native version of java. This opens its own windows and doesn't use X ('cos it's the NT version). In order to get java to do what you want it to do, you need a version of java compiled under cygwin. AFAIK this doesn't exist. If you want to have a go - you can get the java source from Sun I believe under there open source program. That might compile fairly easily - but then it might not. Stuart From BrianGenisio@yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 12:20:00 2002 From: BrianGenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Stuart Adamson wrote: >>Anyways, I am doing a bit of research into how to solve a >>problem, and I >>thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java >>app in Windows, and >>display on an X server. Is this possible? Has anyone done >>anything like this? > > > I use cygwin as my NT java development environment - however I use the NT > native version of java. This opens its own windows and doesn't use X > ('cos it's the NT version). > > In order to get java to do what you want it to do, you need a version of > java compiled under cygwin. AFAIK this doesn't exist. > > If you want to have a go - you can get the java source from Sun I believe > under > there open source program. That might compile fairly easily - but then it > might not. > > > Stuart > Hmmm... Its a pitty the java virtual machine does not support this... it would be slick. Brian From ksanders@mindspring.com Mon Aug 5 16:50:00 2002 From: ksanders@mindspring.com (Kerry Sanders) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 16:50:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c23cda$ddcd46b0$6501a8c0@MARS> Thanks Thomas. This is the same thing that Jim posted earlier. What I needed was the -X on the ssh command. However, does the encryption really slow stuff down that much? I is really slow running X apps like KDE, etc. over my 100 Base-T network. -----Original Message----- First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the provided startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an xterm. However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the DISPLAY variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned on: cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 cygwin> XWin & cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients right way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh will have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY and sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting errors that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and try again. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 5 17:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 17:48:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps References: <000001c23cda$ddcd46b0$6501a8c0@MARS> Message-ID: <3D4F1CCC.4030000@msu.edu> Kerry, No, the encryption should not slow things down much. You may also want to try the -C parameter to ssh, which causes network packets to be compressed. However, have a look at your network hub before starting your ssh session and see how many collisions you are getting. Lots of collisions on a network segment with less than 50 computers with active users at them is a sure sign of network misconfiguration. At one of my jobs we had 20 computers and at night, when no one was using the computers, the network collisions light was nearly blinking solid. All of this wasted bandwidth turned out to be due to Windows machines broadcasting to discover other Windows machines. Some of the machines were also setup with the wrong gateway/netmask so they would broadcast and not receive any responses (these machines also could not get on the Internet, which the other employees thought was just a fluke)... so those machines would broadcast-flood the network. Setting up a WINS server and making the Windows machines look to the WINS server first fixed the problem. After that our collisions light never blinked and we got about 5 times higher throughput. Another tale is that my 100 Base-T switch hooked into the MSU campuses 10 Base-T network would occasionally give agonizingly slow performance between the Windows computer and the Linux computer when using XDMCP. During these times the network activity lights were not blinking anymore than usual, so it does not seem that someone was accessing my computers. Also, I was using a switch, so access times between local computers should be unaffected by traffic on the 10 Base-T network. Yet if I unplugged the 10 Base-T network from the 100 Base-T switch the performance problem went away. So, you should try unplugging everything else from your hub or switch once you have started your ssh session and see if performance improves. I hope some of that helps, Harold Kerry Sanders wrote: > Thanks Thomas. This is the same thing that Jim posted earlier. > > What I needed was the -X on the ssh command. However, does the > encryption really slow stuff down that much? I is really slow running X > apps like KDE, etc. over my 100 Base-T network. > > > -----Original Message----- > First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the > provided > startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an > xterm. > > However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the > DISPLAY > variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned > on: > > cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 > cygwin> XWin & > cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname > > Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients > right > way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh > will > have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY > variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY > and > sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! > > By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on > localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting > errors > that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and > try > again. > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 19:25:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 19:25:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: Seems to me that on a reasonably fast LAN any slow down is going to be a function of the CPU "horsepower" at either end of the pipe, not the LAN bandwidth, since it's the processer which is doing the {de|en}cryption. On the other hand, a narrow band connection (like 56k dialup) might actually benefit from the encyption (that is, if my assumption that encyption also compresses the packets is correct). I observe in my office what I think is a "moderate" slowdown when using an ssh connection vs. an unencrypted connection. (For the record I run Cygwin/XFree on my Thinkpad w/ a 700MHz Pentium III, 256MB SDRAM, and Windows 2000; and connect to my RS/6000 Model 44P-170 w/ a 333MHZ POWER3 processor, 2GB SDRAM, and AIX4.3 over 100BaseT full-duplex Ethernet.) Since I'm behind a corporate firewall, I'm not particularly concerned about who is looking at my X traffic, or what they might see, so I don't bother with ssh. >From: "Kerry Sanders" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: RE: Problem with running X apps >Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:50:23 -0500 > >Thanks Thomas. This is the same thing that Jim posted earlier. > >What I needed was the -X on the ssh command. However, does the >encryption really slow stuff down that much? I is really slow running X >apps like KDE, etc. over my 100 Base-T network. > > >-----Original Message----- >First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the >provided >startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an >xterm. > >However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the >DISPLAY >variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned >on: > >cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 >cygwin> XWin & >cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname > >Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients >right >way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh >will >have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY >variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY >and >sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! > >By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on >localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting >errors >that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and >try >again. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From particle@bi.wakwak.com Mon Aug 5 20:27:00 2002 From: particle@bi.wakwak.com (Yoshiharu Kawai) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:27:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype References: Message-ID: <3D4F4259.94C37842@bi.wakwak.com> Thank you to answering my question!(^_^) Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Yoshiharu Kawai wrote: > > > hello. > > > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! > > It has now support for reading XF86Config, but ... > > > How can I load the module? > > Cygwin-Xfree does not use the module loader. Instead, the libraries are > compiled into XWin.exe > > > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. > > I just tried. It's not trivial. > > The cygwin mkfontdir has no support for TTFs. So I had to use the one > from linux. > > Copy the TTFs to linux, run in that directory "ttmkfdir >fonts.dir" > and copy the fonts.dir back to the cygwin directory with the TTFs > > now you can set the fontpath to that directory (assuming it's ~/.fonts) > xset fp+ ~/.fonts > > now you should have truetype fonts. I use the TTCs(Japanese Windows 2000/98/Me's TrueType fonts file). I try to make fonts.dir by myself, and to use "xset +fp ...", "xset fp rehash".... But I can't see the TTCs...(at xfontsel command) I can use the TTCs at RedHat Linux 7.3, as same fonts.dir, and I see TTCs. At RedHat Linux XFree86's version is 4.2.0-8. I wonder the difference is Linux's XF86COnfig-4 Section "Module" : : load "freetype"'.??? EndSection or another problem? > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# #???????????http://particle.jp/ # #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Tue Aug 6 00:19:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:19:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, ita lian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: What does "give up" mean? I came to the conclusion that the X-terminal-emulators on AIX (and HP/UX) were not up to handling international keyboards. It took a couple of days for this knowledge to reach my brain. Now I'm starting xterms on Cygwin/Xfree86, and then connect to the hosts. As in: xterm -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-15 \ -ls -bd green -fg black -bg white -j -sb -sl 512 \ -tn xterm -geometry 80x50 \ -e uizvdm18 -l ex1 & See the last line: uizvdm18 is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/rlogin.exe and the name of a host, on which I log in as "ex1" Nienta Problema this way. Geert -----Original Message----- From: Stephane Poirey [mailto:moins20@ifrance.com] Sent: maandag 5 augustus 2002 18:25 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Hello, I'm connecting to a AIX box. Since my laptop has a french keyboard layout I first managed to build a french keymap. xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m fr /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/fr.xkm And then I use a ms-dos batch script to launch my X client with the right options... @echo off d: chdir d:\cygwin\bin bash -c "/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe :0 -query aixbox +kb -xkbmap fr -fullscreen - unixkill" First of all, I have to use +kb in order to have my fr keymap working, if I use -kb (like mentioned in the FAQ) I'll be under default (US) keymap. Everything goes right until I try to print some special characters like '|' or '\', which are accessible with the famous 'Alt Gr' key. In fact the Alt Gr key simply does not work at all, I've found several usefull hints in the FAQ but none really solved my problem. The most efficient action is to do a xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' just after login in... This way I can have at least one dtterm accepting my Alt_R signal and fully understanding it as a regular Mode_switch. But unfortunately this will works once (in only one dtterm). I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the did'nt give up) ? =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From ksanders@mindspring.com Tue Aug 6 00:38:00 2002 From: ksanders@mindspring.com (Kerry Sanders) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:38:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c23d1c$36e37490$6501a8c0@MARS> That is what I was going for, but being new to Linux, I am trying to figure out what to use other than ssh at this point. Would it be rlogin? For the record, I am running a WinXP box over a 100 BaseT home network connecting to a Redhat 7.3 linux box. -----Original Message----- Since I'm behind a corporate firewall, I'm not particularly concerned about who is looking at my X traffic, or what they might see, so I don't bother with ssh. From moins20@ifrance.com Tue Aug 6 00:47:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:47:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> References: <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> Message-ID: <1028620080.3d4f7f30d9476@imp.free.fr> Harold, My NumLock key is always off, and if I try to put it on before connecting to the remote host then it's like if my Alt_Gr key was locked down (but it's in the FAQ :-). If I put it on AFTER login in there is no change. So in my case playing with NumLock has no good effect. Below is an extract of the AIX keyboard definition file. I'm not used to read those files but it sounds surprising to me as I believed that Mode_switch was known as "Mod3" and according to those lines it seems to be "Mod2" on AIX, is it possible ? (from /usr/lpp/X11/defaults/xmodmap/Fr_FR/keyboard) ! Modifiers ! --------- clear Lock clear Mod1 clear Mod2 add Lock = Shift_Lock add Mod1 = Alt_L add Mod2 = Mode_switch En r??ponse ?? Harold L Hunt II : > Stephane, > > Have you tried turning 'NumLock' off when you use XDMCP to connect to > your AIX machine? > > NumLock used to be ``server handled'' which means that the X Server sees > > that NumLock is pushed and it sends the number keys for the numeric > keypad; when it sees that NumLock is not pushed, the server sends > clients the arrow keys, home, end, pg up, pg down, etc. > > NumLock was added as a ``modifier key'' within the last few years. This > > means that X Clients must check whether NumLock is pushed to determine > > how to interpret each key. > > The problem here is broken X Server/Xlib/X Clients that check for AltGr > > via some sort of check such as: > if (CapsLock) > { /* do something */ } > else if (ScrollLock) > { /* do something */ } > else > { /* assume AltGr is pushed */ } > > These broken implementations were written to assume that any modifier > value equal to or above the highest-known modifier value used at the > time was the modifier corresponding to the highest-known modifier value > > at that time. In other words, if AltGr was modifier 4 then the broken > > implementation would treat any modifiers >= 4 as AltGr. NumLock is > essentially modifer 5 in this case (that's probably not the actual > value), so 5 >= 4 causes the broken programs to interpret NumLock > incorrectly. > > The strange thing about all of this is that we copied the XFree86-linux > > code for keyboard support. That code treats NumLock as a modifier. The > > code that we lifted must only be used for certain keyboards or on > certain platforms because most XFree86-linux users report that the > problem does not affect them, while AIX, et al are affected. > > The main drawback to modifying the numeric keypad key codes when we see > > that NumLock is on is that we cannot seem to catch all cases and handle > > them properly. That is, we used to translate numeric keypad codes > before and we never got it quite right. People were always complaining > > that some key did not work as it was supposed to. These complaints went > > away after we made NumLock a modifier. > > So, try turning NumLock off and let us all rejoice if you have > success. > > Harold From moins20@ifrance.com Tue Aug 6 00:51:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:51:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, ita lian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1028620292.3d4f800457e40@imp.free.fr> En r??ponse ?? "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" : > I came to the conclusion that the X-terminal-emulators on AIX (and > HP/UX) were not up to handling international keyboards. It might be possible since Hummingbird Exceed works perfectly (but I don't want to have to use Exceed if there's another choice possible). Thanks for your advice but in my particular case it's not acceptable since we do not allow rlogin on our network. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 6 01:16:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 01:16:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype In-Reply-To: <3D4F4259.94C37842@bi.wakwak.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Yoshiharu Kawai wrote: > rehash".... > But I can't see the TTCs...(at xfontsel command) Please check the fonts.dir in the directory with the TTCs. Can you see any entry which belongs to that fonts? > I can use the TTCs at RedHat Linux 7.3, as same fonts.dir, and I see TTCs. > At RedHat Linux XFree86's version is 4.2.0-8. Then copy the fonts to the RedHat linux computer, run mkfontdir or ttmkfdir >fonts.dir and copy fonts.dir to linux. You might also try renaming the fonts to .ttf > I wonder the difference is Linux's XF86COnfig-4 > > Section "Module" > : > : > load "freetype"'.??? > EndSection As I already said, XWin is _not_ using any modules. So the Module section from XF86Config gets ignored. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de Tue Aug 6 02:29:00 2002 From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 02:29:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Stuart, > Stuart Adamson wrote: > >> I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app > >> in Windows, and display on an X server. A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. so long, benny From tpe-stevenchang.BNSLINK@bnslink.com Tue Aug 6 03:15:00 2002 From: tpe-stevenchang.BNSLINK@bnslink.com (tpe-stevenchang.BNSLINK@bnslink.com) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: X fonset Message-ID: helo: My name is steven chang. Now I am trying Xfree86 to test the display server for my hpux host, I meet a question that the NNM manager needs special fontset , so would you mind telling where the path and file that I can modify to solve my question, thank you? cygwin is installed in win2000 procefession, thank you anyway !!! From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Aug 6 03:25:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:25:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste Message-ID: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it would appear I cannot. I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. What do I need to do? TIA, Jim From john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com Tue Aug 6 03:35:00 2002 From: john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com (John Morrison) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:35:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: > From: Jim George > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' > paste from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or > other, but it would appear I cannot. > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > What do I need to do? Check out xwinclip - it's somewhere on the web pages... J. From moins20@ifrance.com Tue Aug 6 03:38:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:38:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1028630304.3d4fa720b3045@imp.free.fr> Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the text you want to copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single click on the middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right and left buttons). This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another application. En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > would appear I cannot. > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > What do I need to do? > > TIA, > > Jim > From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Aug 6 06:04:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 06:04:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <1028630304.3d4fa720b3045@imp.free.fr> References: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> <1028630304.3d4fa720b3045@imp.free.fr> Message-ID: <20020806140203.77763e25.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> I'm sorry but I'm none the wiser. I downloaded and installed xwinclip and started it after XWin using the start /B switch (which by the way doesn't appear to work for me as I have a command window left open on a win2k system). But even with this installed I still don't get cut/copy 'n' paste between xterms, applications, rxvt, or windows applications. I don't have a 3 button mouse but pressing left and right together doesn't work. Any ideas what I am or maybe doing wrong? Jim On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:38:24 +0200 (MEST) Stephane Poirey wrote: > > Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the text you want to > copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single click on the > middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right and left buttons). > > This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another > application. > > > En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > > would appear I cannot. > > > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > > > What do I need to do? > > > > TIA, > > > > Jim > > From BrianGenisio@yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 07:14:00 2002 From: BrianGenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 07:14:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D4FD9B2.7080500@yahoo.com> Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > >>Stuart Adamson wrote: >> >>>>I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app >>>>in Windows, and display on an X server. >>> > > A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to > http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. > > > so long, benny > > Yeah, that does sound interesting... It looks more like a Java interface to the X libraries. I can see how this would be extremely useful. Unfortunately, what I am looking for (just peeking for time being), is the existence of a VM that supports this functionality, like the *nix versions do. It would be neat to run the java VM with a flag that used the X protocol instead. Want in one hand, and shit in annother... see which fills up quicker. B From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 6 07:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 07:26:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <20020806140203.77763e25.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: If you want three button emulation, you have to specify that option to XWin: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jim George > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:02 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: cut 'n' paste > > > I'm sorry but I'm none the wiser. > > I downloaded and installed xwinclip and started it after XWin > using the start /B switch (which by the way doesn't appear to > work for me as I have a command window left open on a win2k > system). But even with this installed I still don't get cut/copy > 'n' paste between xterms, applications, rxvt, or windows applications. > > I don't have a 3 button mouse but pressing left and right > together doesn't work. > > Any ideas what I am or maybe doing wrong? > > Jim > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:38:24 +0200 (MEST) > Stephane Poirey wrote: > > > > > Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the > text you want to > > copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single > click on the > > middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right > and left buttons). > > > > This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another > > application. > > > > > > En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > > > > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > > > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > > > would appear I cannot. > > > > > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > > > > > What do I need to do? > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Jim > > > From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Aug 6 08:45:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 08:45:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: References: <20020806140203.77763e25.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020806164304.43bd4e80.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Thanks Harold, that did the trick. Jim On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:26:19 -0400 "Harold Hunt" wrote: > If you want three button emulation, you have to specify that option to XWin: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jim George > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:02 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: cut 'n' paste > > > > > > I'm sorry but I'm none the wiser. > > > > I downloaded and installed xwinclip and started it after XWin > > using the start /B switch (which by the way doesn't appear to > > work for me as I have a command window left open on a win2k > > system). But even with this installed I still don't get cut/copy > > 'n' paste between xterms, applications, rxvt, or windows applications. > > > > I don't have a 3 button mouse but pressing left and right > > together doesn't work. > > > > Any ideas what I am or maybe doing wrong? > > > > Jim > > > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:38:24 +0200 (MEST) > > Stephane Poirey wrote: > > > > > > > > Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the > > text you want to > > > copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single > > click on the > > > middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right > > and left buttons). > > > > > > This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another > > > application. > > > > > > > > > En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > > > > > > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > > > > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > > > > would appear I cannot. > > > > > > > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > > > > > > > What do I need to do? > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Tue Aug 6 09:14:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 09:14:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: Add the follow "scriptlet" to the end of /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh: disp=`echo $DISPLAY | awk -F: '{print $2}'` ip=`ipconfig | grep Address | awk -F: '{print $2}' | sed "s# ##g"` xhost remotehostname rsh -l remoteusername remotehostname \ xterm -title "remoteusername@remotehostname" -display $ip:$disp & Thereafter, when starting XWin with this script, you will get 2 xterms at startup, one on localhostname and one on remotehostname. Note that for rsh to be successful, you need to have a file called ".rhosts" in your home directory on remotehostname. You will want to add an entry that looks like "localhostname localusername" on a line by itself. You can figure out the value to use for localhostname by running "hostname" at the Cygwin bash prompt. You can figure out the value to use for localusername by running "whoami" at the Cygwin bash prompt. Type "man rsh" at the Cygwin bash prompt to learn more about the rsh command. >From: "Kerry Sanders" >To: "'Thomas Chadwick'" , >Subject: RE: Problem with running X apps >Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 02:38:10 -0500 > >That is what I was going for, but being new to Linux, I am trying to >figure out what to use other than ssh at this point. Would it be >rlogin? > >For the record, I am running a WinXP box over a 100 BaseT home network >connecting to a Redhat 7.3 linux box. > > > >-----Original Message----- >Since I'm behind a corporate firewall, I'm not particularly concerned >about >who is looking at my X traffic, or what they might see, so I don't >bother >with ssh. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From rrschulz@cris.com Tue Aug 6 10:59:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <3D4FD9B2.7080500@yahoo.com> References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020806104127.024ffea0@pop3.cris.com> Brian, Interfacing to platform-specific facilities such as graphics / windows, audio, file systems etc. is not, strictly speaking, a JVM issue. The JVM per se is primarily tied to a processor architecture, instruction set and programming model and to a lesser extent to the memory address layout that is usually OS-specific (and which is somewhat different in Cygwin than in native Windows, I believe). So Java AWT libraries for X would indeed give you the ability to run graphics-based Java programs under XFree86/Cygwin. If you wanted Cygwin I/O and process functionality, e.g., you'd need to go with a complete set of Cygwin-built Java libraries, which would no doubt be most closely akin to the Linux or another Unix port or work-alike. I don't know how well the graphics / AWT libraries are separated from the I/O and process portions of the library and hence how easy it would be to mix and match, say, XFree86/Cygwin graphics (and mouse / keyboard) with Windows I/O and processes, e.g. Presumably it's not too bad. Apple has been through this, of course, in having two Java platforms encompassing two different I/O systems and two different UI systems (between MacOS 8x. / 9.x / Classic on the one hand and MacOS X on the other. The former is completely proprietary, of course, while the latter uses Darwin / FreeBSD and so mostly Unix-like in its I/O and process, memory and library architecture and has its own UI subsystems.) I know of one person (Ted Neward, ) who's working on a full Cygwin-based Java platform. He reported recently to the Advanced Java list at DevelopMentor.com that SCSL JDK release was oriented toward MKS and he was having trouble running some of the build scripts under Cygwin. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 07:14 2002-08-06, Brian Genisio wrote: >Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: >>Hi Stuart, >> >>>Stuart Adamson wrote: >>> >>>>>I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app >>>>>in Windows, and display on an X server. >>A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. >> >>so long, benny > >Yeah, that does sound interesting... It looks more like a Java interface >to the X libraries. I can see how this would be extremely useful. > >Unfortunately, what I am looking for (just peeking for time being), is the >existence of a VM that supports this functionality, like the *nix >versions do. It would be neat to run the java VM with a flag that used >the X protocol instead. > >... > >B From s_i_m@mail.ru Tue Aug 6 12:19:00 2002 From: s_i_m@mail.ru (S.I.M) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:19:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap under cygwin/XFree + w2k Message-ID: <002201c23d7e$7e7e5f60$4499e982@hut.fi> Hi! It seems that I have no effect with "xmodmap" on my system. I used "xkeycaps" (it takes a certain time to compile it, xpm library is missed in the linking options in Imakefile there... also rman fails to produce html docs...) to create .Xmodmap file for my FI keyboard in my home directory. Then I added a command xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap into my .xinitrc file, before starting the window manager. I also tried to use systemwide xinitrc but with the same zero result. When I start xmodmap from xterm it says no errors... And again there is no result. Does this related only to this particular platform (cigwin/XFree + w2k)? There is nothing said about that in the FAQ. Thanks! 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I am using Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 and still have the problem. I have tried almost everything, the Cadence tools run but the colors are messed up. is there a solution for this? I have noticed that this is on the cygwin todo list. any one solved this problem? Regards, Houssam _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Aug 7 01:38:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:38:00 -0000 Subject: /usr/bin/telnet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020807083842.52494.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> telnet is part of inetutils package. see http://www.cygwin.com/packages --- Brandon Reddell a ??crit : > Hi, > > I just downloaded and installed XFree86. Everything seems to work > very well. > I notice, however, that telnet did not install. The user manual seems > to > indicate that it is part of the package. Can anyone tell me how to > get > telnet? > > Thanks, > > Brandon > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Aug 7 08:31:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 08:31:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing problems for users at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are sometimes too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them from opening up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. Thanks for any help. JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 09:06:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:06:00 -0000 Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Houssam, You have two choices: 1) Run Windows in 8 bit color mode. Pass the ``-engine 1'' parameter to Cygwin/XFree86: XWin -engine 1 This will give you a windowed X Server but you must run Windows in 8 bit color mode. 2) Run Windows in any color mode you like, but pass the ``-fullscreen -depth 8'' parameters to Cygwin/XFree86: XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 This will give you a fullscreen X Server, so there will be a slight delay when you switch into and out of Cygwin/XFree86. Those are your only two options. If you have any suggestions as to how we can improve this... keep them to yourself :) We have already thought of some better ways to do this, but we do not have the knowledge to implement those ideas. So, the PseudoColor support is stuck at where it is for now. Hope that helps, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Houssam Kanj > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:24 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor > > > Hi everybody. > > I was trying to run Cadence IC design tools on a remote host > (Sun Machine) and the color were in a mess. > I am using Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 and still have the problem. > I have tried almost everything, the Cadence tools run > but the colors are messed up. > > is there a solution for this? I have noticed that this is on > the cygwin todo list. any one solved this problem? > > Regards, > Houssam > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 09:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:07:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the people that made WindowMaker. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:31 AM > To: wm-user@windowmaker.org > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: x-windows opening up too large > > > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing > problems for users > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are > sometimes > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them > from opening > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > > Thanks for any help. > > JS. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > From s_i_m@mail.ru Wed Aug 7 10:09:00 2002 From: s_i_m@mail.ru (S.I.M) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:09:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap under cygwin/XFree + w2k References: <002201c23d7e$7e7e5f60$4499e982@hut.fi> Message-ID: <000f01c23e35$79a4fdc0$4499e982@hut.fi> Sorry, the problem was in "xkeycaps". It stored (several times!) incorrect keymap (us default) instead of the necessary FI one. Probably, I was too tired yesterday to find out such a simple thing =) All is perfectly working now. Trying to understand what was wrong with "xkeycaps"... Thanks! S.I.M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.I.M" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: xmodmap under cygwin/XFree + w2k > Hi! > > It seems that I have no effect with "xmodmap" on my system. I used > "xkeycaps" (it takes a certain time to compile it, xpm library is missed in > the linking options in Imakefile there... also rman fails to produce html > docs...) to create .Xmodmap file for my FI keyboard in my home directory. > Then I added a command > > xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap > > into my .xinitrc file, before starting the window manager. I also tried to > use systemwide xinitrc but with the same zero result. > > When I start xmodmap from xterm it says no errors... And again there is no > result. Does this related only to this particular platform (cigwin/XFree + > w2k)? There is nothing said about that in the FAQ. > > Thanks! > S.I.M > > From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 10:12:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:12:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide task ba r active consumes CPU resources Message-ID: Please forgive any ignorance of mine demonstrated by this note. Also please forgive the length of the message. :-) We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on Jul 7th. I don't know how what file to look at in the unpack directory to verify what version we are running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control Center GUI, it is KDE version 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top and to "Auto Hide" with the smallest delay, fastest speed, and the Animate set fairly low (about 5 ticks up). The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item on my Windows task bar and it takes the whole screen when present. The Alt/Space does not drop down the System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system icon on the left side of the title bar, so I move the mouse up to the minimize button (icon) on the right side of the title bar. As the mouse moves over the area assigned to the KDE task bar, it pops up (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU load jumps up to float around 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task bar stays up while the mouse is over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I push the minimize button, the CPU load stays the same. This is true even when some other Windows program currently has the focus (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. Alt/Tab from Cygwin/XFree86 to Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by simply moving the mouse over that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not have the active focus. Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows program) partly over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE auto-hide task bar NOT active, there is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar that does NOT activate the KCD task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU load is NOT increased. My belief is that the interaction between the KDE auto-hide bar and Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse messages be monitored by the KDE. So I presume the socket for the X messages must then be getting used by KDE asking "Has the mouse moved away from the active bar area?". It seems to me that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not determine this. I know very little about X messages. Is there something that can be done about this besides move the task bar to the bottom bar and/or make it not auto-hide? Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space combination activate the Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? Thank you, Steve Stone From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 10:47:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:47:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip can copy from NT to KDE but not from KDE to NT Message-ID: I apologize for my lack of knowledge about X selections and how to configure them. After I start xwinclip (from Test06.exe) under NT 4.0 (service pack 6.0) I get the below message which I presume is normal: UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP Now the usual selection and copy mechanisms work in all Windows programs and I can use my Scroll mouse button to paste the copied Windows text into any KDE window (actually only tested in KDE Console and Visual SlickEdit editor windows). But, when I select any item in any KDE window, two things happen. First, the xwinclip application window prints this message: SelectionNotify CompoundText Secondly, I can no longer paste and Windows copied text into KDE. The KDE windows copy and paste as normal between themselves and the Windows apps do the same between themselves. It is as if xwinclip had stopped running. Stopping and restarting xwinclip returns me to the one-way cut and paste from Windows to KDE. The following readme item may be related to my problem but I don't know since I am not aware of what these selections mean in the KDE/X environment: > xwinclip has been tested with the PRIMARY selection, > and code is in place that may handle the CLIPBOARD > selection. However, no code is in place to handle > the SECONDARY selection, and the code for the CLIPBOARD > selection has not been tested and, therefore, it may not work. Thank you for your time, Steve Stone From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 10:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:50:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide task ba r active consumes CPU resources References: Message-ID: <3D515DD6.1070007@msu.edu> Steve, Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... any problems you have are expected and they are being worked on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session running on another machine, then we would be somewhat interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when its taskbar is displayed. With all of that out of the way, I have a little information on the side for you and one question. Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse continuing to move. Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE taskbar always shown? Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that run in the taskbar and provide various information such as when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the root cause here as well. Harold Steve Stone wrote: > Please forgive any ignorance of mine demonstrated by this note. Also please > forgive the length of the message. :-) > > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on Jul 7th. I don't know how what > file to look at in the unpack directory to verify what version we are > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. > > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control Center GUI, it is KDE version > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top and to "Auto Hide" with the > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the Animate set fairly low (about 5 ticks > up). > > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item on my Windows task bar and it > takes the whole screen when present. The Alt/Space does not drop down the > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system icon on the left side of the > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the minimize button (icon) on the right > side of the title bar. > > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to the KDE task bar, it pops up > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU load jumps up to float around > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task bar stays up while the mouse is > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I push the minimize button, the CPU > load stays the same. > > This is true even when some other Windows program currently has the focus > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. Alt/Tab from Cygwin/XFree86 to > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by simply moving the mouse over > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not have the active focus. > > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows program) partly over the > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE auto-hide task bar NOT active, there > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar that does NOT activate the KCD > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU load is NOT increased. > > My belief is that the interaction between the KDE auto-hide bar and > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse messages be monitored by the KDE. So > I presume the socket for the X messages must then be getting used by KDE > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the active bar area?". It seems to me > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not determine this. > > I know very little about X messages. Is there something that can be done > about this besides move the task bar to the bottom bar and/or make it not > auto-hide? > > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space combination activate the > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? > > Thank you, > > Steve Stone > > From moins20@ifrance.com Wed Aug 7 13:19:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:19:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: <1028620080.3d4f7f30d9476@imp.free.fr> References: <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020807221658.007efb60@pop.free.fr> Finnaly I've found a very nice workaround : instead of using some dtterm, I work with some "aixterm -v" or "xterm -t" (the last works better). I don't have much time to learn exactly why those terminals are smart enough to understand my AltGr key but they does, so it's enough for me for the moment. Best regards. At 09:48 06/08/02 +0200, you wrote: > >Harold, >My NumLock key is always off, and if I try to put it on before connecting to >the remote host then it's like if my Alt_Gr key was locked down (but it's in >the FAQ :-). > >If I put it on AFTER login in there is no change. > >So in my case playing with NumLock has no good effect. > >Below is an extract of the AIX keyboard definition file. I'm not used to read >those files but it sounds surprising to me as I believed that Mode_switch was >known as "Mod3" and according to those lines it seems to be "Mod2" on AIX, is >it possible ? > >(from /usr/lpp/X11/defaults/xmodmap/Fr_FR/keyboard) >! Modifiers >! --------- >clear Lock >clear Mod1 >clear Mod2 >add Lock = Shift_Lock >add Mod1 = Alt_L >add Mod2 = Mode_switch > > >En r?ponse ? Harold L Hunt II : > >> Stephane, >> >> Have you tried turning 'NumLock' off when you use XDMCP to connect to >> your AIX machine? >> >> NumLock used to be ``server handled'' which means that the X Server sees >> >> that NumLock is pushed and it sends the number keys for the numeric >> keypad; when it sees that NumLock is not pushed, the server sends >> clients the arrow keys, home, end, pg up, pg down, etc. >> >> NumLock was added as a ``modifier key'' within the last few years. This >> >> means that X Clients must check whether NumLock is pushed to determine >> >> how to interpret each key. >> >> The problem here is broken X Server/Xlib/X Clients that check for AltGr >> >> via some sort of check such as: >> if (CapsLock) >> { /* do something */ } >> else if (ScrollLock) >> { /* do something */ } >> else >> { /* assume AltGr is pushed */ } >> >> These broken implementations were written to assume that any modifier >> value equal to or above the highest-known modifier value used at the >> time was the modifier corresponding to the highest-known modifier value >> >> at that time. In other words, if AltGr was modifier 4 then the broken >> >> implementation would treat any modifiers >= 4 as AltGr. NumLock is >> essentially modifer 5 in this case (that's probably not the actual >> value), so 5 >= 4 causes the broken programs to interpret NumLock >> incorrectly. >> >> The strange thing about all of this is that we copied the XFree86-linux >> >> code for keyboard support. That code treats NumLock as a modifier. The >> >> code that we lifted must only be used for certain keyboards or on >> certain platforms because most XFree86-linux users report that the >> problem does not affect them, while AIX, et al are affected. >> >> The main drawback to modifying the numeric keypad key codes when we see >> >> that NumLock is on is that we cannot seem to catch all cases and handle >> >> them properly. That is, we used to translate numeric keypad codes >> before and we never got it quite right. People were always complaining >> >> that some key did not work as it was supposed to. These complaints went >> >> away after we made NumLock a modifier. >> >> So, try turning NumLock off and let us all rejoice if you have >> success. >> >> Harold > > From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Aug 7 13:26:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:26:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Harold, Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort of problems? Thanks, JS. > >Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >people >that made WindowMaker. > >Harold > > > > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing > > problems for users > > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are > > sometimes > > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > > > > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right > > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them > > from opening > > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > JS. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 14:00:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: FW: cygwin question Message-ID: Hi Harold, I am using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE. To be sure that we are clear, the CPU usage I had noted was on the NT box (thus not KDE). I have now run 'top' on the Linux box and the kpanel does not seem to require much time (it jumps up to right below top, drop down and keeps repeating that, but not at a very high cpu demand on the Linux box). Also, the NT CPU time is not 100%, it is jumps to 40% and then oscillates between 40% and 60% every second or so. This behavior is present for both the KDE task bar and the KDE panel bar. If I put the KDE Auto Hide setting at even one click up from the lowest "Delay = small" setting, the NT cpu usage drops dramatically to be 2-7%. It also goes to zero after the minimize icon is clicked. The Speed and Animate settings do not seem to affect the CPU usage much. As long as the mouse is hovering over either the panel bar and/or the title bar (and the Auto Hide is at the shortest delay), the CPU usage is up. This is with no mouse movement, just parked over the panel bar. Steve Stone 503.672.5771 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II > Sent: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:50:14 -0400 > To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com > Subject: Re: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 consumes CPU resources > > Steve, > > Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on > your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a > Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? > > KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... > any problems you have are expected and they are being worked > on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. > > If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session > running on another machine, then we would be somewhat > interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when > its taskbar is displayed. > > > With all of that out of the way, I have a little information > on the side for you and one question. > > Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of > the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it > has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the > mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out > of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you > described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is > the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the > Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after > the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the > Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem > with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse continuing to move. > > Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE > taskbar always shown? > > Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of > whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. > > Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that > run in the taskbar and provide various information such as > when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have > arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden > state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until > the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit > in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar > itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. > > > Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure > whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin > folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the > root cause here as well. > > > Harold > > > Steve Stone wrote: > > > Please forgive any ignorance of mine demonstrated by this > note. Also please > forgive the length of the message. :-) > > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on Jul 7th. I don't > know how what > file to look at in the unpack directory to verify what version we are > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. > > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control Center GUI, it > is KDE version > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top and to "Auto > Hide" with the > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the Animate set fairly low > (about 5 ticks > up). > > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item on my Windows > task bar and it > takes the whole screen when present. The Alt/Space does not > drop down the > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system icon on the left > side of the > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the minimize button > (icon) on the right > side of the title bar. > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to the KDE task > bar, it pops up > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU load jumps up to > float around > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task bar stays up > while the mouse is > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I push the minimize > button, the CPU > load stays the same. > > This is true even when some other Windows program currently > has the focus > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. Alt/Tab from > Cygwin/XFree86 to > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by simply moving > the mouse over > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not have the active focus. > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows program) partly over the > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE auto-hide task bar NOT > active, there > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar that does NOT > activate the KCD > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU load is NOT increased. > > My belief is that the interaction between the KDE auto-hide bar and > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse messages be monitored > by the KDE. So > I presume the socket for the X messages must then be getting > used by KDE > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the active bar area?". > It seems to me > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not determine this. > I know very little about X messages. Is there something that > can be done > about this besides move the task bar to the bottom bar and/or > make it not > auto-hide? > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space combination activate the > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? > > Thank you, > > Steve Stone > > > > > Steve Stone > 503.672.5771 > > From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 14:04:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:04:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide tas kba r active consumes CPU resources Message-ID: Reposted with corrected subject - sorry > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Stone > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:00 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: FW: cygwin question > > > Hi Harold, > > I am using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE. > > To be sure that we are clear, the CPU usage I had noted was > on the NT box (thus not KDE). I have now run 'top' on the > Linux box and the kpanel does not seem to require much time > (it jumps up to right below top, drop down and keeps > repeating that, but not at a very high cpu demand on the > Linux box). Also, the NT CPU time is not 100%, it is jumps > to 40% and then oscillates between 40% and 60% every second or so. > > This behavior is present for both the KDE task bar and the > KDE panel bar. > > If I put the KDE Auto Hide setting at even one click up from > the lowest "Delay = small" setting, the NT cpu usage drops > dramatically to be 2-7%. It also goes to zero after the > minimize icon is clicked. The Speed and Animate settings do > not seem to affect the CPU usage much. > > As long as the mouse is hovering over either the panel bar > and/or the title bar (and the Auto Hide is at the shortest > delay), the CPU usage is up. This is with no mouse movement, > just parked over the panel bar. > > Steve Stone > 503.672.5771 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold L Hunt II > > Sent: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:50:14 -0400 > > To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com > > Subject: Re: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 consumes > CPU resources > > > > Steve, > > > > Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on > > your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a > > Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? > > > > KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... > > any problems you have are expected and they are being worked > > on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. > > > > If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session > > running on another machine, then we would be somewhat > > interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when > > its taskbar is displayed. > > > > > > With all of that out of the way, I have a little information > > on the side for you and one question. > > > > Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of > > the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it > > has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the > > mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out > > of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you > > described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is > > the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the > > Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after > > the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the > > Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem > > with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse > continuing to move. > > > > Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE > > taskbar always shown? > > > > Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of > > whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. > > > > Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that > > run in the taskbar and provide various information such as > > when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have > > arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden > > state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until > > the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit > > in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar > > itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. > > > > > > Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure > > whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin > > folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the > > root cause here as well. > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > Steve Stone wrote: > > > > > > Please forgive any ignorance of mine > demonstrated by this > > note. Also please > > forgive the length of the message. :-) > > > > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on > Jul 7th. I don't > > know how what > > file to look at in the unpack directory to > verify what version we are > > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. > > > > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control > Center GUI, it > > is KDE version > > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top > and to "Auto > > Hide" with the > > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the > Animate set fairly low > > (about 5 ticks > > up). > > > > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item > on my Windows > > task bar and it > > takes the whole screen when present. The > Alt/Space does not > > drop down the > > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system > icon on the left > > side of the > > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the > minimize button > > (icon) on the right > > side of the title bar. > > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to > the KDE task > > bar, it pops up > > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU > load jumps up to > > float around > > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task > bar stays up > > while the mouse is > > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I > push the minimize > > button, the CPU > > load stays the same. > > > > This is true even when some other Windows > program currently > > has the focus > > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. > Alt/Tab from > > Cygwin/XFree86 to > > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by > simply moving > > the mouse over > > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not > have the active focus. > > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows > program) partly over the > > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE > auto-hide task bar NOT > > active, there > > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar > that does NOT > > activate the KCD > > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU > load is NOT increased. > > > > My belief is that the interaction between the > KDE auto-hide bar and > > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse > messages be monitored > > by the KDE. So > > I presume the socket for the X messages must > then be getting > > used by KDE > > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the > active bar area?". > > It seems to me > > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not > determine this. > > I know very little about X messages. Is there > something that > > can be done > > about this besides move the task bar to the > bottom bar and/or > > make it not > > auto-hide? > > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space > combination activate the > > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Steve Stone > > > > > > > > > > Steve Stone > > 503.672.5771 > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 14:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:28:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large References: Message-ID: <3D519102.3010806@msu.edu> JS, No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. I just happen to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and how to get everything compiled and packaged. You will have to hope that someone else can answer your question about which window manager to use. Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window manager that is installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install lesstif which includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the openbox window manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe packages. There may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. Harold J S wrote: > Harold, > > Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort > of problems? > > Thanks, > > JS. > >> >> Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >> people >> that made WindowMaker. >> >> Harold > > >> > >> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing >> > problems for users >> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are >> > sometimes >> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. >> > >> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right >> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them >> > from opening >> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. >> > >> > Thanks for any help. >> > >> > JS. >> > >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 14:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide taskbar active consumes CPU resources References: Message-ID: <3D5195BA.6020602@msu.edu> Steve, I am logging into a remote Mandrake Linux 8.2 machine with KDE 3.0.2. My Windows 2000 machine is running XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-10. I cannot duplicate the behavior that you describe. Please run, from a Cygwin bash prompt: cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86-xserv Send the results of the above command in to the mailing list so that we know what version of the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server you are running. Also, please tell us what version of KDE you are running. I now suspect that this may have been a problem/bug in versions of KDE prior to at least 3.0.2. You may find that the problem goes away by updating KDE on your Linux machine. Harold Steve Stone wrote: > Reposted with corrected subject - sorry > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Steve Stone >>Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:00 PM >>To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' >>Subject: FW: cygwin question >> >> >>Hi Harold, >> >>I am using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE. >> >>To be sure that we are clear, the CPU usage I had noted was >>on the NT box (thus not KDE). I have now run 'top' on the >>Linux box and the kpanel does not seem to require much time >>(it jumps up to right below top, drop down and keeps >>repeating that, but not at a very high cpu demand on the >>Linux box). Also, the NT CPU time is not 100%, it is jumps >>to 40% and then oscillates between 40% and 60% every second or so. >> >>This behavior is present for both the KDE task bar and the >>KDE panel bar. >> >>If I put the KDE Auto Hide setting at even one click up from >>the lowest "Delay = small" setting, the NT cpu usage drops >>dramatically to be 2-7%. It also goes to zero after the >>minimize icon is clicked. The Speed and Animate settings do >>not seem to affect the CPU usage much. >> >>As long as the mouse is hovering over either the panel bar >>and/or the title bar (and the Auto Hide is at the shortest >>delay), the CPU usage is up. This is with no mouse movement, >>just parked over the panel bar. >> >>Steve Stone >>503.672.5771 >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Harold L Hunt II >> > Sent: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:50:14 -0400 >> > To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com >> > Subject: Re: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 consumes >>CPU resources >> > >> > Steve, >> > >> > Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on >> > your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a >> > Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? >> > >> > KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... >> > any problems you have are expected and they are being worked >> > on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. >> > >> > If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session >> > running on another machine, then we would be somewhat >> > interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when >> > its taskbar is displayed. >> > >> > >> > With all of that out of the way, I have a little information >> > on the side for you and one question. >> > >> > Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of >> > the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it >> > has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the >> > mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out >> > of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you >> > described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is >> > the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after >> > the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem >> > with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse >>continuing to move. >> > >> > Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE >> > taskbar always shown? >> > >> > Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of >> > whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. >> > >> > Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that >> > run in the taskbar and provide various information such as >> > when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have >> > arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden >> > state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until >> > the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit >> > in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar >> > itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. >> > >> > >> > Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure >> > whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin >> > folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the >> > root cause here as well. >> > >> > >> > Harold >> > >> > >> > Steve Stone wrote: >> > >> > >> > Please forgive any ignorance of mine >>demonstrated by this >> > note. Also please >> > forgive the length of the message. :-) >> > >> > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on >>Jul 7th. I don't >> > know how what >> > file to look at in the unpack directory to >>verify what version we are >> > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. >> > >> > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control >>Center GUI, it >> > is KDE version >> > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top >>and to "Auto >> > Hide" with the >> > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the >>Animate set fairly low >> > (about 5 ticks >> > up). >> > >> > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item >>on my Windows >> > task bar and it >> > takes the whole screen when present. The >>Alt/Space does not >> > drop down the >> > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system >>icon on the left >> > side of the >> > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the >>minimize button >> > (icon) on the right >> > side of the title bar. >> > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to >>the KDE task >> > bar, it pops up >> > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU >>load jumps up to >> > float around >> > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task >>bar stays up >> > while the mouse is >> > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I >>push the minimize >> > button, the CPU >> > load stays the same. >> > >> > This is true even when some other Windows >>program currently >> > has the focus >> > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. >>Alt/Tab from >> > Cygwin/XFree86 to >> > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by >>simply moving >> > the mouse over >> > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not >>have the active focus. >> > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows >>program) partly over the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE >>auto-hide task bar NOT >> > active, there >> > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar >>that does NOT >> > activate the KCD >> > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU >>load is NOT increased. >> > >> > My belief is that the interaction between the >>KDE auto-hide bar and >> > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse >>messages be monitored >> > by the KDE. So >> > I presume the socket for the X messages must >>then be getting >> > used by KDE >> > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the >>active bar area?". >> > It seems to me >> > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not >>determine this. >> > I know very little about X messages. Is there >>something that >> > can be done >> > about this besides move the task bar to the >>bottom bar and/or >> > make it not >> > auto-hide? >> > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space >>combination activate the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > Steve Stone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Steve Stone >> > 503.672.5771 >> > >> > >> > From cgf@redhat.com Wed Aug 7 15:40:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 15:40:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing cygwin/xfree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide taskbar active consumes CPU resources In-Reply-To: <3D5195BA.6020602@msu.edu> References: <3D5195BA.6020602@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020807224007.GB13110@redhat.com> On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 05:48:42PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >Please run, from a Cygwin bash prompt: >cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86-xserv > >Send the results of the above command in to the mailing list so that we >know what version of the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server you are running. cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv will also provide the same thing. cgf From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 16:00:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 16:00:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing cygwin/xfree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide tas kbar active consumes CPU resources Message-ID: The xfree version is XFree86-xserv XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-10.tar.bz2 0 The KDE is 1.1.2 (heh, heh, heh) Linux is redhat 2.2.16-3 So then I tried it on one of the new boxes with KDE 3.0.0-10 and redhat 2.4.18-5 Here what I get is a burst of NT activity (75% cpu) about every 4 seconds for one second. So does appear to be KDE related and requires the KDE taskbar to be docked at the top and to have the shortest delay possible (zero in the new KDE). Seems like this is a KDE thingie and pretty low priority too but I will post over there in case anybody is interested. Thanks for your help! (Sorry that outlook seems to be forcing the post to a new thread) Steve Stone Harold wrote: > Steve, > > I am logging into a remote Mandrake Linux 8.2 > machine with KDE 3.0.2. My Windows 2000 machine > is running XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-10. I cannot > duplicate the behavior that you describe. > > Please run, from a Cygwin bash prompt: > cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86-xserv > > Send the results of the above command in to the > mailing list so that we know what version of the > Cygwin/XFree86 X Server you are running. > > Also, please tell us what version of KDE you are > running. I now suspect that this may have been a > problem/bug in versions of KDE prior to at least > 3.0.2. You may find that the problem goes away by > updating KDE on your Linux machine. > > Harold From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 02:06:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 02:06:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I know this probably seems like a window manager problem but I tried openbox, mwm, twm, fvwm2 and all suffered the same problem as window maker. >JS, > >No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. > >As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. I just happen >to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and how to get >everything compiled and packaged. > >You will have to hope that someone else can answer your question about >which window manager to use. > >Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window manager that is >installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install lesstif which >includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the openbox window >manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe packages. There >may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Harold, >> >>Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort of >>problems? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>> >>>Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >>>people >>>that made WindowMaker. >>> >>>Harold >> >> >>> > >>> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing >>> > problems for users >>> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are >>> > sometimes >>> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. >>> > >>> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using >>>ALT+left/right >>> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them >>> > from opening >>> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. >>> > >>> > Thanks for any help. >>> > >>> > JS. >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Aug 8 03:15:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A48B@ldnisp14.evolution.net> I've had this problem using XFree86 on linux, eXceed on NT and Xfree86 on Win2000. I've also had native windows windows open at silly sizes (especially on machines with autohide tool bars). It's a window manager / application problem. For some reason for application thinks that it should open a masive window. This might be because of ... * It remembered the last size the app was open - maybe from a display at a higher resolution * It wants to display a big table or something so opens a bigger window * It's got itself well and truely confused. Doesn't really help you ;( Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: J S [mailto:vervoom@hotmail.com] > Sent: 08 August 2002 10:07 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large > > > I know this probably seems like a window manager problem but I tried > openbox, mwm, twm, fvwm2 and all suffered the same problem as > window maker. > > > >JS, > > > >No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. > > > >As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. > I just happen > >to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and > how to get > >everything compiled and packaged. > > > >You will have to hope that someone else can answer your > question about > >which window manager to use. > > > >Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window > manager that is > >installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install > lesstif which > >includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the > openbox window > >manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe > packages. There > >may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. > > > >Harold > > > >J S wrote: > >>Harold, > >> > >>Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have > these sort of > >>problems? > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>JS. > >> > >>> > >>>Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should > probably ask the > >>>people > >>>that made WindowMaker. > >>> > >>>Harold > >> > >> > >>> > > >>> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing > >>> > problems for users > >>> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these > windows are > >>> > sometimes > >>> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > >>> > > >>> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using > >>>ALT+left/right > >>> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them > >>> > from opening > >>> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks for any help. > >>> > > >>> > JS. > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > >> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 8 03:34:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 03:34:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, J S wrote: > I know this probably seems like a window manager problem but I tried > openbox, mwm, twm, fvwm2 and all suffered the same problem as window maker. I don't think you'll find a wm, which handles this in another way. The defautl behaviour of all wm i know, is to display the window in the size the program requested. If for example Netscape is started and wants to display the window in 1600x1200, but the screen is only 800x600, you will only see 1/4 of the actual display. With fvwm, the other parts of the window are displayed on the surrounding virtual desktops and you can switch to these desktops. But the only solution for you problem is: Set the diplay resolution to a higher value. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 03:42:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 03:42:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will constrain the windows within the screen? JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Thu Aug 8 04:19:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 04:19:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B407794A4F@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> FWIW, the mwm window manager documentation lists an "Appearance and Behavior Resource" named "maximumMaximumSize" which "Specifies the maximum size of a client window (as set by the user or client). Takes a value of widthxheight (e.g.,1024x1024) where width and eight are in pixels. The default is twice the screen width and height." Now, the mwm available to run under Cygwin/XFree86 is the Lesstif version, which is supposed to be "functionally equivalent", but *does* differ in many areas from the official Motif version. The distributed app-defaults file lists this resource in a section commented as: !! !! not tracked yet. Some are implemented, but you can't change the default !! behavior. !! On the other hand, this app-defaults shows a version control tag of: !! $Id: Mwm.ad,v 1.2 2001/10/27 18:32:58 amai Exp $ BTW, this resource can be set in your .Xdefaults file (as well as a number of other places) as: Mwm*maximumMaximumSize: 1024x1024 I have not tried this feature of mwm. Good luck. -D. --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 -----Original Message----- From: J S [mailto:vervoom@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:43 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will constrain the windows within the screen? JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Thu Aug 8 04:33:00 2002 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 04:33:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large References: Message-ID: <3D5256F6.E7B5A08E@imec.be> J S wrote: > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will constrain > the windows within the screen? X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a -geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the top level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' and look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. Staf. From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 05:09:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I have just tried running this application from a Linux box (using KDE) and the windows were all fitted to the screen. >J S wrote: > > > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >constrain > > the windows within the screen? > >X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >top >level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >and >look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From seterajunk@charter.net Thu Aug 8 05:31:00 2002 From: seterajunk@charter.net (CRAIG SETERA) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 05:31:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? Message-ID: I'm not even close to an expert with all of the pieces that make up XFree and *nix utilities. I would like to create a Windows shortcut (to a bat file or whatever) that does the following: - Starts up XFree - Uses ssh with X forwarding to launch a kde desktop on my linux box. I can do this step by step, but it is a lot of commands to get right each time. I just can't seem to get a set of commands to automate it. In addition, it would be nice if I didn't end up with a bunch of extra command/console windows. Essentially I want a way to lauch a KDE desktop on my linux box quickly and easily. Thanks, Craig PS - I tried to get xdm/kdm/gdm working, but could never get my linux box to "answer" me. From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 06:21:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 06:21:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Does X start up with the -geometry option? or is that option for the applications that run within X? >J S wrote: > > > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >constrain > > the windows within the screen? > >X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >top >level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >and >look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Thu Aug 8 06:33:00 2002 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 06:33:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large References: Message-ID: <3D5272DF.8E758766@imec.be> J S wrote: > > Does X start up with the -geometry option? or is that option for the > applications that run within X? You can specify it for every program that you run (if they are standard compliant). Please read 'man X' on a linux box there are examples with a few programs in the GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION section. Staf. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 8 07:15:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:15:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, CRAIG SETERA wrote: > - Starts up XFree > - Uses ssh with X forwarding to launch a kde desktop on my > linux box. > > Essentially I want a way to lauch a KDE desktop > on my linux box quickly and easily. XWin -query? > > PS - I tried to get xdm/kdm/gdm working, but could never > get my linux box to "answer" me. Please check /etc/X11/xdm-config if "DisplayManager.requestPort" is set to 0. If so, comment that line out (add ! before that line) bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 07:24:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:24:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I ran the app on the Linux WindowMaker and got the same problem so Harold was right it is a window manager problem. >From: Staf Verhaegen >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:32:15 +0200 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by >mc1-f5.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 8 Aug >2002 06:33:16 -0700 >Received: (qmail 6911 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 2002 13:33:13 -0000 >Received: (qmail 6575 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2002 13:32:17 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO dmz2.imec.be) (146.103.254.12) by >sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 13:32:17 -0000 >Received: from e2k01.imec.be (e2k01.imec.be [146.103.0.4])by dmz2.imec.be >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15645for ; Thu, 8 >Aug 2002 15:32:16 +0200 >Received: from imec.be ([146.103.8.147]) by e2k01.imec.be with Microsoft >SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:32:15 +0200 >Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Subscribe: >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: , > >Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Message-ID: <3D5272DF.8E758766@imec.be> >Organization: IMEC vzw >X-Accept-Language: nl-BE, en >References: >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2002 13:32:15.0614 (UTC) >FILETIME=[028C49E0:01C23EE0] >Return-Path: cygwin-xfree-return-11085-vervoom=hotmail.com@cygwin.com > >J S wrote: > > > > Does X start up with the -geometry option? or is that option for the > > applications that run within X? > >You can specify it for every program that you run (if they are standard >compliant). >Please read 'man X' on a linux box there are examples with a few programs >in >the GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION section. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From tntactive@msn.com Thu Aug 8 07:42:00 2002 From: tntactive@msn.com (TNT Group ) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:42:00 -0000 Subject: Enjoy yourself like me Message-ID: Hi Dear Sir, I became a member of an interesting free website which is totally unique. 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Thanks, TNT Group Member ID# AHF373 From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 08:33:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:33:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: FWIW. I've found the best solution for me is to run the Window Manager on the remote machine. Performance and compatibility are much better than running a Cygwin-ported Window Manager locally. You can do this even if you aren't using a Display Manager (like XDM) with a command-line which looks something like this: rsh remotehostname mwm -display localhostname:0 Put it in your preferred XWin startup script (e.g. startxwin.bat or .xinitrc). Works great. >From: Harold L Hunt II >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 17:28:34 -0400 > >JS, > >No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. > >As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. I just happen >to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and how to get >everything compiled and packaged. > >You will have to hope that someone else can answer your question about >which window manager to use. > >Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window manager that is >installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install lesstif which >includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the openbox window >manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe packages. There >may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Harold, >> >>Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort of >>problems? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>> >>>Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >>>people >>>that made WindowMaker. >>> >>>Harold >> >> >>> > >>> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing >>> > problems for users >>> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are >>> > sometimes >>> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. >>> > >>> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using >>>ALT+left/right >>> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them >>> > from opening >>> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. >>> > >>> > Thanks for any help. >>> > >>> > JS. >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From charkins@upl.cs.wisc.edu Thu Aug 8 08:55:00 2002 From: charkins@upl.cs.wisc.edu (Casey Harkins) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:55:00 -0000 Subject: [wm-user] x-windows opening up too large In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What application are you running? Most X applications allow you to pass a geometry string on the command line to specify a location and width and height. For example, to start xcalc with a width of 200 pixels, height of 300 pixels and positioned in the upper left corner: "xcalc -geometry 200x300+0+0" Or to position it in the lower right use: "xcalc -geometry 200x300-0-0" Or 10 pixels from the left and 20 pixels from the bottom: "xcalc -geometry 200x300+10-20" Keep in mind that the width and height specified do not include the window decorations added by the window manager. So if you use width and height == to screen resolution, the application will be slightly larger than the screen. Hope this helps. -casey On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, J S wrote: > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing problems for users > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are sometimes > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them from opening > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > > Thanks for any help. > > JS. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > INFO: https://windowmaker.org/lists/listinfo/wm-user > ARCHIVE: http://windowmaker.org/lists/archive/wm-user/ > FAQ: http://windowmaker.org/faq.html > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 09:03:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:03:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Usage of the -geometry flag looks like the following: xterm -geometry 80x35+100+100 This creates an xterm which is 80 columns wide and 35 rows tall positioned 100 pixels down from the top edge and 100 in from the left edge of the screen. One thing you can do is manually size and position the client window the way you like it, then run "xwininfo". It will give you the corresponding -geometry value to use in the future. >From: Staf Verhaegen >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:33:10 +0200 > >J S wrote: > > > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >constrain > > the windows within the screen? > >X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >top >level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >and >look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dean.bishop@tcdsb.org Thu Aug 8 11:18:00 2002 From: dean.bishop@tcdsb.org (Bishop, Dean) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Message-ID: Good morning, i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This same site works fine when i use the machine locally. this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. Any thoughts on how to rectify this? thanks in advance, dean From seterajunk@charter.net Thu Aug 8 11:47:00 2002 From: seterajunk@charter.net (CRAIG SETERA) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:47:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? Message-ID: I've already tried all of the different HOWTO's to try and get XDM going without any success. That was why I was hoping someone could give me a command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. Thanks, Craig From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 8 11:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site References: Message-ID: <3D52BD82.1000904@msu.edu> Dean, I think your best bet would be to contact the Mozilla project. You didn't mention Cygwin/XFree86 in your post, so I am guessing that you posted here by mistake. Harold Bishop, Dean wrote: >Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web >site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This >same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, >but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? > >thanks in advance, >dean > > From dean.bishop@tcdsb.org Thu Aug 8 12:13:00 2002 From: dean.bishop@tcdsb.org (Bishop, Dean) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:13:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Message-ID: Sorry. i guess i implied but didn't state that this problem occurs only when i attempt to browse shockwave enabled web sites while using cygwin/xfree to connect to my remote linux box (on which i am attempting to browse). Also, as i mentioned, if i actually go to the linux box and browse while logged into that machine, i have no problem with the same sites that didn't work through cygwin/xfree i hope that this clarifies thangs. regards, dean -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:51 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Dean, I think your best bet would be to contact the Mozilla project. You didn't mention Cygwin/XFree86 in your post, so I am guessing that you posted here by mistake. Harold Bishop, Dean wrote: >Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web >site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This >same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, >but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? > >thanks in advance, >dean > > From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 8 12:14:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. This is a netscape/mozilla vs. flash problem. It only occurs when X is used over network. Turnoff Flash. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 12:46:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:46:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Thanks Thomas, I'll try your ideas out tomorrow when I goto work but I just wanted to say that the geometry flag is fine for the main application window running, it's the windows that pop up from that which I don't seem to have any control over. But running the window manager on the remote machine sounds like a good idea - I'll give that a go, but surely that will be slower won't it? > >Usage of the -geometry flag looks like the following: > >xterm -geometry 80x35+100+100 > >This creates an xterm which is 80 columns wide and 35 rows tall positioned >100 pixels down from the top edge and 100 in from the left edge of the >screen. > >One thing you can do is manually size and position the client window the >way you like it, then run "xwininfo". It will give you the corresponding >-geometry value to use in the future. > >>From: Staf Verhaegen >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >>Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:33:10 +0200 >> >>J S wrote: >> > >> > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >>constrain >> > the windows within the screen? >> >>X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >>-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >>top >>level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >>and >>look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. >> >>Staf. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From kostya@rice.edu Thu Aug 8 14:35:00 2002 From: kostya@rice.edu (Konstantin N. Kudin) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:35:00 -0000 Subject: How to disable mouse wheel (buttons) Message-ID: Hi everybody I am trying to disable a mouse wheel under cygwin/xfree and can't find anything anywhere on how to do that. Basically, the wheel acts like buttons 2, 4, and 5. Scrolling the wheel is translated into buttons 4 and 5, and that crashes one of my applications. I would like to simply disable that under cygwin/xfree and keep it elsewhere (under Windows). However, there seem to be no file XF86config anywhere which could be used to set the number of buttons to 3. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Regards, Konstantin Kudin From ratmice@yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 15:11:00 2002 From: ratmice@yahoo.com (ratmice) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:11:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? References: Message-ID: <3D52EB72.20700@yahoo.com> CRAIG SETERA wrote: > I've already tried all of the different HOWTO's to try and get XDM going > without any success. That was why I was hoping someone could give me a > command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. > > Thanks, > Craig > just hacked this out... it isn't ideal and requires... modification of the source... it's based off an old x example xxterm.c, which was in the kdevelop examples modify the machines at the beginning to your network gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o sxterm sxterm.c -lX11 ./xsterm it has 2 arguments, username and remote_command if you want to run things w/ 2 different usernames you might fix it.. or run xsterm twice :) oh my command line parsing is badness, and if you want to use option 2, you should also provide option 1 ie this works for me xsterm matt /usr/X11R6/bin/xeyes -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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That was why I was hoping someone could give me a > command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. > > Thanks, > Craig > just hacked this out... it isn't ideal and requires... modification of the source... it's based off an old x example xxterm.c, which was in the kdevelop examples modify the machines at the beginning to your network gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o xsterm xsterm.c ./xsterm it has 2 optional arguments, username and remote_command if you want to run things w/ 2 different usernames you might fix it.. or run xsterm twice :) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xsterm.c URL: From pantao@fortunesoft.net Thu Aug 8 18:04:00 2002 From: pantao@fortunesoft.net (pantao) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 18:04:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <004801c23f40$eef2edb0$7514a8c0@pantao> hi, all I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up next time. Is it so? 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why is it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. thanks, PanTao From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 8 18:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: How to disable mouse wheel (buttons) References: Message-ID: <3D5319B1.8030608@msu.edu> Konstantin, Congratulations, you are the first person to ever request that the mouse wheel support be turned off. :) We have not yet had a request for such a feature. I will add this to the to-do list. Jehan, you want to work on this one? Harold Konstantin N. Kudin wrote: > Hi everybody > > I am trying to disable a mouse wheel under cygwin/xfree and can't find >anything anywhere on how to do that. Basically, the wheel acts like >buttons 2, 4, and 5. Scrolling the wheel is translated into buttons 4 and >5, and that crashes one of my applications. I would like to simply disable >that under cygwin/xfree and keep it elsewhere (under Windows). However, >there seem to be no file XF86config anywhere which could be used to set >the number of buttons to 3. > > Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Regards, > Konstantin Kudin > > > > From bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us Thu Aug 8 18:51:00 2002 From: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us (Tom Bozack) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 18:51:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site References: Message-ID: <3D531FB4.6060101@ridgecrest.ca.us> Dean I have the same problem. It occurs using both cygwin/XFree86 and Linux/XFree86 to access the server. This indicates that it's either a problem inherent to XFree86 (not just the cygwin port) or more likely is a Mozilla/Netscape/Shockwave problem. Either way, it's really anoying and I hope someone tracks it down and fixes it. Tom Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? > > thanks in advance, > dean > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Thu Aug 8 21:10:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 21:10:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin.bat and PATH Message-ID: <20020809041032.19425.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Hi list, I want to launch X at startup on my WIN NT station at work because I use many unix machines. This way I set a windows shortcut to startxwin.bat and the server starts. But PATH isn't set correct, as startxwin.bat only defines /usr/X11R6/bin and /bin (and normal windows %PATH%) I suggest this (changed this on my machine whithout problems): add "-i -l" to the xterm line to set the shell interactive and login shell. REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash -i -l ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Thu Aug 8 23:46:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 23:46:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12 Message-ID: <3D536560.DDAD4B65@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Hello. I've download and install the "Experimental" version XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12. And wen I sart XWin with my usual command line : start /B XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query mimosa -once -nodecoration -lesspointer It removes my file /tmp/fr.xkm, and start with us keyboard. Is it normal ? I've reinstall the "Current" version 4.2.0-10 and everything is ok. Gilles From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 01:24:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 01:24:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I think I finally found out what the problem is now. The application will only run on the Solaris desktop window manager (dtwm). So if I run dtwm on XFree86, the application windows are fine. Thanks everyone for your help. JS. > >Usage of the -geometry flag looks like the following: > >xterm -geometry 80x35+100+100 > >This creates an xterm which is 80 columns wide and 35 rows tall positioned >100 pixels down from the top edge and 100 in from the left edge of the >screen. > >One thing you can do is manually size and position the client window the >way you like it, then run "xwininfo". It will give you the corresponding >-geometry value to use in the future. > >>From: Staf Verhaegen >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >>Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:33:10 +0200 >> >>J S wrote: >> > >> > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >>constrain >> > the windows within the screen? >> >>X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >>-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >>top >>level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >>and >>look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. >> >>Staf. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 9 02:36:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 02:36:00 -0000 Subject: some question In-Reply-To: <004801c23f40$eef2edb0$7514a8c0@pantao> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > > I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: > > 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some > access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up > next time. Is it so? Yes. After you log off, the next user logging in should not be affected by your access settings. > 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is > no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why > is > it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. Man Xserver -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci? fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man? ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. What you want is -indirect bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 9 02:40:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 02:40:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12 In-Reply-To: <3D536560.DDAD4B65@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, gilles civario wrote: > > Hello. > I've download and install the "Experimental" version XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12. > And wen I sart XWin with my usual command line : > start /B XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query mimosa -once -nodecoration -lesspointer > It removes my file /tmp/fr.xkm, and start with us keyboard. > Is it normal ? I guess it creates a new keymap from the settings in /etc/X11/XF86Config or the defaults and overwrites the keymap. You can set the requested layout in /etc/X11/XF86Config. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pantao_fz@21cn.com Fri Aug 9 03:54:00 2002 From: pantao_fz@21cn.com (PAN TAO) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 03:54:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <03e001c23f93$5c0bba10$7514a8c0@pantao> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: some question On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > > I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: > > 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some > access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up > next time. Is it so? Yes. After you log off, the next user logging in should not be affected by your access settings. > 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is > no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why > is > it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. Man Xserver -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci?? fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man?? ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. What you want is -indirect bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pantao_fz@21cn.com Fri Aug 9 03:56:00 2002 From: pantao_fz@21cn.com (PAN TAO) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <03e701c23f93$a8ea3960$7514a8c0@pantao> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: some question On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > > I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: > > 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some > access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up > next time. Is it so? Yes. After you log off, the next user logging in should not be affected by your access settings. > 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is > no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why > is > it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. Man Xserver -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci?? fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man?? ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. What you want is -indirect --- bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pantao_fz@21cn.com Fri Aug 9 04:04:00 2002 From: pantao_fz@21cn.com (PAN TAO) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <03fe01c23f94$b377fc90$7514a8c0@pantao> Hi, ago Thanks for you answer, I see now. But for broadcast request, some windows X server (such as exceed), x-win32 will show a list of the servers which send by the reply and let the user select one, so I felt a little change about XFree86, and I know it now. Thanks and regards, PanTao BTW: sorry for last NULL reply mail for my wrong operation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: some question On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 06:39:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 06:39:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:46:33 +0000 > >Thanks Thomas, > >I'll try your ideas out tomorrow when I goto work but I just wanted to say >that the geometry flag is fine for the main application window running, >it's the windows that pop up from that which I don't seem to have any >control over. Look at the documentation for that client program. Almost all X clients have something called "Resources", which allow you to control the behavior of the program. You put them in a file called .Xdefaults in your home directory. >But running the window manager on the remote machine sounds like a good >idea - I'll give that a go, but surely that will be slower won't it? That's what I thought. But after some experimentation, I found that running mwm remotely was much faster than fvwm2, WindowMaker, or leffTif/mwm locally (I don't care for twm, so I didn't evaluate that option). I'm sure your experience may be different since it depends upon how fast the machine is at either end of the "pipe", and how fast the LAN is in between. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 06:48:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 06:48:00 -0000 Subject: GNU emacs 21.2-1 Message-ID: >From: "Joseph H. Buehler" >Reply-To: jbuehler@hekimian.com >To: cygwin-announce@cygwin.com >Subject: GNU emacs 21.2-1 >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 21:37:00 -0400 > >Cygwin packages have just been uploaded for GNU emacs 21.2. Both X11 and >non-X modes work. Shell buffers work, as does compile mode and dired mode. > >There are some problems with telnet and ange-ftp and gnus -- they don't >work >with the version of cygwin1.dll I am using, anyway. I don't know what >the problem is yet, it appears to be some problem with select(). > >Undumping is also not implemented yet, but I'll work on it. > >Joe Buehler FWIW, I ran into a problem with select() in a package I ported to Cygwin/XFree86 called x2x. I eventually ironed it out. The whole discussion is in the cygwin-xfree ML archive for July, 2002: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/ Search on "x2x". _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 06:58:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 06:58:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? Message-ID: This has come up a number of times recently. Look in the archives for July, 2002: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07 Search for the following subjects: "scripting using Xterm ssh" "need help scripting multiple xfree startups" "Your help please..." >From: "CRAIG SETERA" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:46:49 -0400 > >I've already tried all of the different HOWTO's to try and get XDM going >without any success. That was why I was hoping someone could give me a >command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. > >Thanks, >Craig _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Aug 9 09:41:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <3D4FD9B2.7080500@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020809164105.3753.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> --- Brian Genisio wrote: > Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > > Hi Stuart, > > > > > >>Stuart Adamson wrote: > >> > >>>>I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java > app > >>>>in Windows, and display on an X server. > >>> > > > > A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. > > > > > > so long, benny > > > > > > Yeah, that does sound interesting... It looks more like a Java > interface > to the X libraries. I can see how this would be extremely useful. > > Unfortunately, what I am looking for (just peeking for time being), > is > the existence of a VM that supports this functionality, like the > *nix > versions do. It would be neat to run the java VM with a flag that > used > the X protocol instead. > > Want in one hand, and shit in annother... see which fills up > quicker. Well, I can't make any promises, but I've been kicking around the notion of porting the Sun Community Sources version of java to Cygwin/XFree. Currently, my first hurdle is to get OpenMOTIF fully ported, as the jdk won't compile with lesstif. There are some licensing issues regarding that, but I really don't give a damn what the Open Group says. So, once that's done, then comes the hard part. We'll see how far along cygwin's threading capabilities are, as that is probably the most worrisome aspect. Currently, there has been much work done in progressing sysV IPC, so when the time comes it should be ready to roll. Hopefully I can get a useful vm out of it, but it's really just for fun. Anyhow, swing and awt support is just plain dreadful, if not non-existent, in the various gpl'd vms. So, I don't need to be reminded about them, because they are frankly useless. Since I'm not about to write the X11 interface from the ground up, I figure this would be the best bet. Besides, who knows, if this is successful I might submit my build to Sun and see if they'll allow redistribution. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From WhiteG@dfo-mpo.gc.ca Fri Aug 9 09:50:00 2002 From: WhiteG@dfo-mpo.gc.ca (George N. White III) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:50:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? I have the same problem using my SGI X-server with mozilla/netscape and also with a linux box that lacks a sound card. This suggests that cygwin-xfree is a faithful simulation of "real" X-servers. I suspect the problem is that the X audio extension is missing and or not supported by shockwave, and that shockwave doesn't handle missing audio support properly. -- George N. White III Bedford Institute of Oceanography From john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com Fri Aug 9 10:01:00 2002 From: john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com (John Morrison) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:01:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <20020809164105.3753.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ooh, if you need anyone to help test! I will! I've been wanting somebody to do this since I started cygwin and Java development! > From: Nicholas Wourms > > Well, I can't make any promises, but I've been kicking around the > notion of porting the Sun Community Sources version of java to > Cygwin/XFree. Currently, my first hurdle is to get OpenMOTIF fully > ported, as the jdk won't compile with lesstif. There are some > licensing issues regarding that, but I really don't give a damn what > the Open Group says. So, once that's done, then comes the hard part. > We'll see how far along cygwin's threading capabilities are, as that > is probably the most worrisome aspect. Currently, there has been > much work done in progressing sysV IPC, so when the time comes it > should be ready to roll. Hopefully I can get a useful vm out of it, > but it's really just for fun. Anyhow, swing and awt support is just > plain dreadful, if not non-existent, in the various gpl'd vms. So, I > don't need to be reminded about them, because they are frankly > useless. Since I'm not about to write the X11 interface from the > ground up, I figure this would be the best bet. Besides, who knows, > if this is successful I might submit my build to Sun and see if > they'll allow redistribution. > > Cheers, > Nicholas From bitlov@ibelgique.com Fri Aug 9 10:03:00 2002 From: bitlov@ibelgique.com (bitlov) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:03:00 -0000 Subject: numlock misfunctionning Message-ID: <001b01c23fc6$b3371040$0a001fac@whisper> Hi, I have a belgian keyboard and I have my Numlock key that is misfunctionning under xfree via xdmcp. I have look the archives but I haven't found a clear solution. When numlock is off, the keypad functions as if it was pressed but the insert, delete, home, end, pgUp, pgDn and the arrows functions correctly. When numlock is on, the keypad functions correctly but the insert, delete, home, end, pgUp, pgDn and the arrows are all shifted (Shift_L). What should I change in my xmodmap file? Thanks, -bitlov Here is the xmodmap file I use. clear Mod1 clear Mod2 keycode 8 = keycode 9 = Escape keycode 10 = ampersand 1 bar keycode 11 = eacute 2 at keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft keycode 14 = parenleft 5 keycode 15 = section 6 asciicircum keycode 16 = egrave 7 keycode 17 = exclam 8 keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 braceleft keycode 19 = agrave 0 braceright keycode 20 = parenright degree keycode 21 = minus underscore keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 23 = Tab keycode 24 = a keycode 25 = z keycode 26 = e E currency keycode 27 = r keycode 28 = t keycode 29 = y keycode 30 = u keycode 31 = i keycode 32 = o keycode 33 = p keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis bracketleft keycode 35 = dollar asterisk bracketright keycode 36 = Return keycode 37 = Control_L keycode 38 = q keycode 39 = s keycode 40 = d keycode 41 = f keycode 42 = g keycode 43 = h keycode 44 = j keycode 45 = k keycode 46 = l keycode 47 = m keycode 48 = ugrave percent dead_acute acute keycode 49 = twosuperior threesuperior keycode 50 = Shift_L keycode 51 = mu sterling dead_grave grave keycode 52 = w keycode 53 = x keycode 54 = c keycode 55 = v keycode 56 = b keycode 57 = n keycode 58 = comma question dead_cedilla keycode 59 = semicolon period keycode 60 = colon slash Multi_key keycode 61 = equal plus dead_tilde asciitilde keycode 62 = Shift_R keycode 63 = KP_Multiply keycode 64 = Alt_L keycode 65 = space keycode 66 = Caps_Lock keycode 67 = F1 F11 keycode 68 = F2 F12 keycode 69 = F3 F13 keycode 70 = F4 F14 keycode 71 = F5 F15 keycode 72 = F6 F16 keycode 73 = F7 F17 keycode 74 = F8 F18 keycode 75 = F9 F19 keycode 76 = F10 F20 keycode 77 = Num_Lock keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock keycode 79 = KP_7 KP_Home keycode 80 = KP_8 KP_Up keycode 81 = KP_9 KP_Prior keycode 82 = KP_Subtract keycode 83 = KP_4 KP_Left keycode 84 = KP_5 KP_Begin keycode 85 = KP_6 KP_Right keycode 86 = KP_Add keycode 87 = KP_1 KP_End keycode 88 = KP_2 KP_Down keycode 89 = KP_3 KP_Next keycode 90 = KP_0 KP_Insert keycode 91 = KP_Decimal KP_Delete keycode 92 = 0x1007ff00 keycode 93 = keycode 94 = less greater backslash keycode 95 = F11 keycode 96 = F12 keycode 97 = Home keycode 98 = Up keycode 99 = Prior keycode 100 = Left keycode 101 = Begin keycode 102 = Right keycode 103 = End keycode 104 = Down keycode 105 = Next keycode 106 = Insert keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 110 = Pause keycode 111 = Print keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch keycode 114 = Break keycode 116 = Mode_switch keycode 117 = Multi_key add Mod1 = Alt_L add Mod2 = Mode_switch From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Aug 9 12:54:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:54:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020809195435.8462.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> --- John Morrison wrote: > Ooh, if you need anyone to help test! I will! I've > been wanting somebody to do this since I started cygwin > and Java development! > Well I'll see what I can do. Last time I was working on it, I was battling bad arrays and structs which couldn't be autoimported by ld... PITA time :-). I'll let you know, but as I said this is a side project and my plate is fairly full with current cygwin obligations such as QT, bdb, and rpm. Although, when I do get something going, I sure could use a hand, as this is going to require some major munging of the source files to figure out which WIN32 defines should stay and which should go. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Sat Aug 10 00:41:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 00:41:00 -0000 Subject: Imakefile.c:9: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory Message-ID: I am having some trouble creating the xrn newsreader Makefile with xmkmf (error in Subject line). >From reading the man page I know the "missing" file is the "master template file" but a) that's about as much as I do know, and b) there is no such file anywhere on my machine. Is this something I need to generate, or what? If so, how, please? TIA From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Sat Aug 10 01:41:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 01:41:00 -0000 Subject: Imakefile.c:9: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory Message-ID: Ach. Forget it. I think I just found it. The google search I did against the cygwin site did not show the package contents (its in the headers pkg). -- Gary From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Sat Aug 10 03:15:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: More xrn build woes Message-ID: Hmm. I'm still trying to build xrn. $ xmkmf mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config In file included from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl:1845, from Imakefile.c:9: /tmp/IIf.576279:312: unterminated `#ifdef' conditional imake: Exit code 1. Stop. However: $ cat -n /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl [snip] 1843 XCOMM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1844 XCOMM start of Imakefile 1845 #include INCLUDE_IMAKEFILE [snip] $ cat -n Imakefile [snip] 312 #ifdef MOTIF 313 TKSED= -e 's/MOTIF//' -e '/XAW/d' -e 's/notify()/Activate()/' \ 314 -e 's/unset()/Disarm()/' -e 's/set()/Arm()/' \ 315 -e 's/\([*.]\)label:/\1labelString:/' \ 316 -e 's/no-op(RingBell/beep(/' \ 317 -e 's/\.\([^.]*\)\.baseTranslations/*\1*translations/' \ 318 -e 's/baseTranslations/translations/' \ 319 -e 's/>Down/>osfDown/' -e 's/>Up/>osfUp/' \ 320 -e 's/>Left/>osfLeft/' -e 's/>Right/>osfRight/' 321 #else 322 TKSED= -e 's/XAW//' -e '/MOTIF/d' 323 #endif [snip] IOW, it looks like there /is/ a terminating #endif so what's likely to be wrong? If I comment out th entire #ifdef block I then get a complaint that there is an "unterminated '#if' conditional" at line 247 (again, the terminator seems to be there okay). From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Sun Aug 11 07:33:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: GDB, for XFree??? Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to debug an X application with GDB, more specifically, a wxWindows application running under Cygwin Xfree. The problem is that if I invoke my application inside X, by typing "gdb app.exe", a Windows application (GDB) pops up with my app loaded in it, but then my application never seems to be able to run. Is there a trick to this, or is GDB only for character mode applications? Thanks. From ratmice@yahoo.com Mon Aug 12 11:45:00 2002 From: ratmice@yahoo.com (Matt Rice) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:45:00 -0000 Subject: gdb for X Message-ID: <20020812184518.5951.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I generally use DDD under linux/X this morning I compiled it, the only thing I had to install which I hadn't already (was flex) X applications tend to run in a loop, so I set breakpoints and continue and use printf and hit continue or next and skip a bunch of times.. note, it doesn't understand .exe so you have to use the full path to your executable. opening GDB Settings will work, then send ddd into an endless loop.. i'm sure there's probably more problems.. but it's debugging stuff matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dean.bishop@tcdsb.org Mon Aug 12 12:05:00 2002 From: dean.bishop@tcdsb.org (Bishop, Dean) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:05:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Message-ID: hmmm. this is an interesting, and plausable theory. Is it concievable that one of those network audio services might solve this problem? thanks again, dean -----Original Message----- From: George N. White III [mailto:WhiteG@dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:46 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? I have the same problem using my SGI X-server with mozilla/netscape and also with a linux box that lacks a sound card. This suggests that cygwin-xfree is a faithful simulation of "real" X-servers. I suspect the problem is that the X audio extension is missing and or not supported by shockwave, and that shockwave doesn't handle missing audio support properly. -- George N. White III Bedford Institute of Oceanography From ratmice@yahoo.com Mon Aug 12 14:43:00 2002 From: ratmice@yahoo.com (Matt Rice) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: GDB, for XFree??? Message-ID: <20020812214324.36698.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> more notes on ddd forgot the url http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/ it's 22 megabytes... sorry I messed up threading last time, here's my original reply http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00135.html cat >>~/.XResources DDD.filterFiles off weird issues opening it from the same XTerm more than once... it seg faults for me on the second try.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From support@rsinc.com Mon Aug 12 22:39:00 2002 From: support@rsinc.com (RSI E-mail Support) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 22:39:00 -0000 Subject: Thank you for your technical support inquiry Message-ID: <910A02699BD53D45A5874E1BA0D6AAECBA854E@atlas.corp.rsinc.com> Dear Valued Customer, Thank you for your inquiry to RSI Technical Support. We make every effort to respond to all calls and e-mails promptly (within eight business hours). 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I would like to run IE and LotusNotes from the U10 (exporting the display) By now I use VNC but having a whole window for all winapps isn't that good... Is there a way (using ssh -X, I guess) to run WinApps from the U10 ? By now, when I do "ssh -X -C winbox notepad", it starts the winapp on the windows display... Even "ssh -X -C winbox ; export DISPLAY=U10 ; notepad", starts notepad on the winbox... What I installed on the winbox is cygwin, ssh and rxvt (not the whole XFree86 project) So, any idea ? Do I have to install the XFree server too ? I noticed even from a local XFree86 server, running notepad doesn't keep in the XFree86 window... Thanks for answers, Jo ************************************************************************** Le contenu de ce message ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Noos sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et Noos. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. 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For more information about us: http://www.noos.com ************************************************************************** From rasjidw@openminddev.net Tue Aug 13 04:32:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 04:32:00 -0000 Subject: [ VNC vs export display ] - use cygwin/XFree or ssh to export "Internet Explorer" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200208132132.22730.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 9:07 pm, Joel.CARNAT@noos.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have an NT4/cygwin machine and an SUN U10 workstation. > I would like to run IE and LotusNotes from the U10 (exporting the > display) > By now I use VNC but having a whole window for all winapps isn't that > good... > > Is there a way (using ssh -X, I guess) to run WinApps from the U10 ? > By now, when I do "ssh -X -C winbox notepad", it starts the winapp on > the windows display... > Even "ssh -X -C winbox ; export DISPLAY=U10 ; notepad", starts > notepad on the winbox... What you are trying to do will only work for X Applications. Windows applications in general do not speak X, they draw themselves via GDI. If someone were to port the Wine GDI->X conversion library to Cygwin, then what you want to do may become possible (with quite a bit more work). Until then, I'm pretty sure that what you are trying to do is not possible. Rasjid. From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Tue Aug 13 08:20:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:20:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) Message-ID: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> Hello, I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the right-click menu key as the AltGr key. I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by windows when pressing the AltGr key. Any help would be appreciated. Benoit xev after pressing AltGr: KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" French .Xmodmap file: ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 ! FVI CETP clear Shift clear Lock clear Control clear Mod1 clear Mod2 clear Mod3 clear Mod4 clear Mod5 keycode 9 = Escape Escape keycode 10 = ampersand 1 keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum keycode 19 = agrave 0 at keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright keycode 21 = equal plus braceright keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 23 = Tab Tab keycode 24 = a keycode 25 = z keycode 26 = e keycode 27 = r keycode 28 = t keycode 29 = y keycode 30 = u keycode 31 = i keycode 32 = o keycode 33 = p keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency keycode 36 = Return keycode 37 = Control_L keycode 38 = q keycode 39 = s keycode 40 = d keycode 41 = f keycode 42 = g keycode 43 = h keycode 44 = j keycode 45 = k keycode 46 = l keycode 47 = m M keycode 48 = ugrave percent keycode 49 = twosuperior keycode 50 = Shift_L keycode 51 = asterisk mu keycode 52 = w keycode 53 = x keycode 54 = c keycode 55 = v keycode 56 = b keycode 57 = n keycode 58 = comma question keycode 59 = semicolon period keycode 60 = colon slash keycode 61 = exclam section keycode 62 = Shift_R keycode 63 = KP_Multiply keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L keycode 65 = space space keycode 66 = Caps_Lock keycode 67 = F1 F11 keycode 68 = F2 F12 keycode 69 = F3 F13 keycode 70 = F4 F14 keycode 71 = F5 F15 keycode 72 = F6 F16 keycode 73 = F7 F17 keycode 74 = F8 F18 keycode 75 = F9 F19 keycode 76 = F10 F20 keycode 77 = Num_Lock keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock keycode 79 = KP_7 keycode 80 = KP_8 keycode 81 = KP_9 keycode 82 = KP_Subtract keycode 83 = KP_4 keycode 84 = KP_5 keycode 85 = KP_6 keycode 86 = KP_Add keycode 87 = KP_1 keycode 88 = KP_2 keycode 89 = KP_3 keycode 90 = KP_0 keycode 92 = Sys_Req keycode 94 = less greater keycode 95 = F11 F11 keycode 96 = F12 F12 !Windows right-click menu key keycode 101 = Mode_switch keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key keycode 114 = Break keycode 110 = Find keycode 98 = Up keycode 99 = Prior keycode 100 = Left keycode 102 = Right keycode 104 = Down keycode 105 = Next keycode 106 = Insert add shift = Shift_L Shift_R add lock = Caps_Lock add control = Control_L Control_R add mod1 = Alt_L add mod2 = Mode_switch add mod3 = Num_Lock !add mod4 = Alt_R add mod5 = Scroll_Lock From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 13 08:29:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:29:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) References: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> Message-ID: <3D5925D2.8030707@msu.edu> Benoit, How did you install Cygwin/XFree86? Did you install it using only Cygwin's setup.exe? Or, did you install the old packages by manually untarring them, etc.? Note: you should have installed everything via Cygwin's setup.exe and you should NOT have had to run ``Xinstall.sh''. I ask this because the AltGr handling in Cygwin/XFree86 has received much attention and is generally recognized as working correctly. I suspect that you either have a really old version of XWin.exe, or you have a problem with your modmap that someone else will have to help you with. Harold Benoit Ledoux wrote: > Hello, > > I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my > french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work > correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). > > I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the > .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the > right-click menu key as the AltGr key. > > I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by > windows when pressing the AltGr key. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Benoit > > xev after pressing AltGr: > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), > state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" > > French .Xmodmap file: > ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 > ! FVI CETP > > clear Shift > clear Lock > clear Control > clear Mod1 > clear Mod2 > clear Mod3 > clear Mod4 > clear Mod5 > > keycode 9 = Escape Escape > keycode 10 = ampersand 1 > keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde > keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign > keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft > keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft > keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar > keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave > keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash > keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum > keycode 19 = agrave 0 at > keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright > keycode 21 = equal plus braceright > keycode 22 = BackSpace > keycode 23 = Tab Tab > keycode 24 = a > keycode 25 = z > keycode 26 = e > keycode 27 = r > keycode 28 = t > keycode 29 = y > keycode 30 = u > keycode 31 = i > keycode 32 = o > keycode 33 = p > keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis > keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency > keycode 36 = Return > keycode 37 = Control_L > keycode 38 = q > keycode 39 = s > keycode 40 = d > keycode 41 = f > keycode 42 = g > keycode 43 = h > keycode 44 = j > keycode 45 = k > keycode 46 = l > keycode 47 = m M > keycode 48 = ugrave percent > keycode 49 = twosuperior > keycode 50 = Shift_L > keycode 51 = asterisk mu > keycode 52 = w > keycode 53 = x > keycode 54 = c > keycode 55 = v > keycode 56 = b > keycode 57 = n > keycode 58 = comma question > keycode 59 = semicolon period > keycode 60 = colon slash > keycode 61 = exclam section > keycode 62 = Shift_R > keycode 63 = KP_Multiply > keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L > keycode 65 = space space > keycode 66 = Caps_Lock > keycode 67 = F1 F11 > keycode 68 = F2 F12 > keycode 69 = F3 F13 > keycode 70 = F4 F14 > keycode 71 = F5 F15 > keycode 72 = F6 F16 > keycode 73 = F7 F17 > keycode 74 = F8 F18 > keycode 75 = F9 F19 > keycode 76 = F10 F20 > keycode 77 = Num_Lock > keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock > keycode 79 = KP_7 > keycode 80 = KP_8 > keycode 81 = KP_9 > keycode 82 = KP_Subtract > keycode 83 = KP_4 > keycode 84 = KP_5 > keycode 85 = KP_6 > keycode 86 = KP_Add > keycode 87 = KP_1 > keycode 88 = KP_2 > keycode 89 = KP_3 > keycode 90 = KP_0 > keycode 92 = Sys_Req > keycode 94 = less greater > keycode 95 = F11 F11 > keycode 96 = F12 F12 > !Windows right-click menu key > keycode 101 = Mode_switch > keycode 107 = Delete > keycode 108 = KP_Enter > keycode 109 = Control_R > keycode 112 = KP_Divide > keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key > keycode 114 = Break > keycode 110 = Find > keycode 98 = Up > keycode 99 = Prior > keycode 100 = Left > keycode 102 = Right > keycode 104 = Down > keycode 105 = Next > keycode 106 = Insert > > > add shift = Shift_L Shift_R > add lock = Caps_Lock > add control = Control_L Control_R > add mod1 = Alt_L > add mod2 = Mode_switch > add mod3 = Num_Lock > !add mod4 = Alt_R > add mod5 = Scroll_Lock > From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Tue Aug 13 08:54:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:54:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) Message-ID: <3D592BA2.7030209@free.fr> Harold, I used the setup.exe program. Then I customized the installation (creation of the .Xmodmap and .inputrc files). This setup installed XFree 4.2.0 (4.2.0.10 for XFree-86-xserv). Thanks, Benoit ---- Benoit, How did you install Cygwin/XFree86? Did you install it using only Cygwin's setup.exe? Or, did you install the old packages by manually untarring them, etc.? Note: you should have installed everything via Cygwin's setup.exe and you should NOT have had to run ``Xinstall.sh''. I ask this because the AltGr handling in Cygwin/XFree86 has received much attention and is generally recognized as working correctly. I suspect that you either have a really old version of XWin.exe, or you have a problem with your modmap that someone else will have to help you with. Harold Benoit Ledoux wrote: Hello, I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the right-click menu key as the AltGr key. I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by windows when pressing the AltGr key. Any help would be appreciated. Benoit xev after pressing AltGr: KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" French .Xmodmap file: ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 ! FVI CETP clear Shift clear Lock clear Control clear Mod1 clear Mod2 clear Mod3 clear Mod4 clear Mod5 keycode 9 = Escape Escape keycode 10 = ampersand 1 keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum keycode 19 = agrave 0 at keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright keycode 21 = equal plus braceright keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 23 = Tab Tab keycode 24 = a keycode 25 = z keycode 26 = e keycode 27 = r keycode 28 = t keycode 29 = y keycode 30 = u keycode 31 = i keycode 32 = o keycode 33 = p keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency keycode 36 = Return keycode 37 = Control_L keycode 38 = q keycode 39 = s keycode 40 = d keycode 41 = f keycode 42 = g keycode 43 = h keycode 44 = j keycode 45 = k keycode 46 = l keycode 47 = m M keycode 48 = ugrave percent keycode 49 = twosuperior keycode 50 = Shift_L keycode 51 = asterisk mu keycode 52 = w keycode 53 = x keycode 54 = c keycode 55 = v keycode 56 = b keycode 57 = n keycode 58 = comma question keycode 59 = semicolon period keycode 60 = colon slash keycode 61 = exclam section keycode 62 = Shift_R keycode 63 = KP_Multiply keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L keycode 65 = space space keycode 66 = Caps_Lock keycode 67 = F1 F11 keycode 68 = F2 F12 keycode 69 = F3 F13 keycode 70 = F4 F14 keycode 71 = F5 F15 keycode 72 = F6 F16 keycode 73 = F7 F17 keycode 74 = F8 F18 keycode 75 = F9 F19 keycode 76 = F10 F20 keycode 77 = Num_Lock keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock keycode 79 = KP_7 keycode 80 = KP_8 keycode 81 = KP_9 keycode 82 = KP_Subtract keycode 83 = KP_4 keycode 84 = KP_5 keycode 85 = KP_6 keycode 86 = KP_Add keycode 87 = KP_1 keycode 88 = KP_2 keycode 89 = KP_3 keycode 90 = KP_0 keycode 92 = Sys_Req keycode 94 = less greater keycode 95 = F11 F11 keycode 96 = F12 F12 !Windows right-click menu key keycode 101 = Mode_switch keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key keycode 114 = Break keycode 110 = Find keycode 98 = Up keycode 99 = Prior keycode 100 = Left keycode 102 = Right keycode 104 = Down keycode 105 = Next keycode 106 = Insert add shift = Shift_L Shift_R add lock = Caps_Lock add control = Control_L Control_R add mod1 = Alt_L add mod2 = Mode_switch add mod3 = Num_Lock !add mod4 = Alt_R add mod5 = Scroll_Lock From philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr Tue Aug 13 10:01:00 2002 From: philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr (Philippe Bastiani) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:01:00 -0000 Subject: editres Message-ID: Hi, It seems to me that editres program does not work correctly: I cannot view and/or update the values of resources ! -- Philippe Bastiani From firoz_vohra@yahoo.com Tue Aug 13 10:31:00 2002 From: firoz_vohra@yahoo.com (Firoz Vohra) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:31:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... Message-ID: <20020813173119.28570.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Hi.. I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X server on cygwin and i am getting following error msg.... The output when running startx from bash prompt startx waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't list any problems... here it goes... ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in same thing....although both the methods do give me a new X window, but there isn't anything in it. I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people had problems with default font which isn't in my case... any help would b greatly appriciated... thanking in advance... Firoz. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Tue Aug 13 12:54:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:54:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A4AA@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Try using startxwin.sh or startxwin.sh (as recommended in the Xfree86/Cygwin howto). > -----Original Message----- > From: Firoz Vohra [mailto:firoz_vohra@yahoo.com] > Sent: 13 August 2002 18:31 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: problem...please help... > > > Hi.. > > I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X > server on cygwin and i am getting following error > msg.... > > The output when running startx from bash prompt > startx > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > .. > giving up. > xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to > connect to X server > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't > list any problems... > > here it goes... > > ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens > > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be > set to root > > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me > > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported > engines 00000017 > > winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display > depth of 32 bits per pixel > > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 > h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 > > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > > winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to > fbCreateDefColormap () > > winScreenInit - returning > > the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in > same thing....although both the methods do give me a > new X window, but there isn't anything in it. > > I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people > had problems with default font which isn't in my > case... > > any help would b greatly appriciated... > > thanking in advance... > > Firoz. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Wed Aug 14 00:00:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... References: <20020813173119.28570.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D5A0028.1050100@free.fr> H i Firoz, You should check that you do not have a firewall running. I had the same problem and it was due to my firewall: it was refusing the connection to the X server. Benoit Firoz Vohra wrote: >Hi.. > >I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X >server on cygwin and i am getting following error >msg.... > >The output when running startx from bash prompt >startx >waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . >.. >giving up. >xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to >connect to X server >xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > >I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't >list any problems... > >here it goes... > >ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens > >winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > >winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > >_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be >set to root > >winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me > >winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > >winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > >winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported >engines 00000017 > >winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > >winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display >depth of 32 bits per pixel > >winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > >winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > >winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 >h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 > >winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > >winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 > >winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 >000000ff > >winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 >000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > >winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to >fbCreateDefColormap () > >winScreenInit - returning > >the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in >same thing....although both the methods do give me a >new X window, but there isn't anything in it. > >I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people >had problems with default font which isn't in my >case... > >any help would b greatly appriciated... > >thanking in advance... > >Firoz. > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > From firoz_vohra@yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 02:27:00 2002 From: firoz_vohra@yahoo.com (Firoz Vohra) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:27:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... Message-ID: <20020814092657.11444.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Try using startxwin.sh or startxwin.sh (as recommended in the Xfree86/Cygwin howto). I have tried all the options available, it simply doesn't work...i mean i do get new screen but no terminal window in it... As for the firewall, i have got win98se connected to network in the office, but no firewall running on my machine as such as far i know. Any other solution to my problem would b welcomed...and ya thanks both of you guys for ur help... Hi Firoz, You should check that you do not have a firewall running. I had the same problem and it was due to my firewall: it was refusing the connection to the X server. Benoit Firoz Vohra wrote: Hi.. I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X server on cygwin and i am getting following error msg.... The output when running startx from bash prompt startx waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't list any problems... here it goes... ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in same thing....although both the methods do give me a new X window, but there isn't anything in it. I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people had problems with default font which isn't in my case... any help would b greatly appriciated... thanking in advance... Firoz. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From bitlov@ibelgique.com Wed Aug 14 03:31:00 2002 From: bitlov@ibelgique.com (bitlov) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 03:31:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) References: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> Message-ID: <000b01c2437d$cdffc6a0$0a001fac@whisper> Your xmodmap file is incomplete. You should add this : keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 110 = Pause keycode 111 = Print keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch keycode 114 = Break ! right windows-logo key ! in "windows" keyboards the postion of the key is annoying, is where AltGr ! usually resides, so go definie it as AltGr keycode 116 = Mode_switch ! right windows-menu key, redefined as Compose key keycode 117 = Multi_key For my part, I have troubles with my numlock key. Could you try if yours is functionning ? -bitlov ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benoit Ledoux" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:20 PM Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) > Hello, > > I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my > french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work > correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). > > I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the > .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the > right-click menu key as the AltGr key. > > I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by > windows when pressing the AltGr key. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Benoit > > xev after pressing AltGr: > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), > state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" > > French .Xmodmap file: > ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 > ! FVI CETP > > clear Shift > clear Lock > clear Control > clear Mod1 > clear Mod2 > clear Mod3 > clear Mod4 > clear Mod5 > > keycode 9 = Escape Escape > keycode 10 = ampersand 1 > keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde > keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign > keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft > keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft > keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar > keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave > keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash > keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum > keycode 19 = agrave 0 at > keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright > keycode 21 = equal plus braceright > keycode 22 = BackSpace > keycode 23 = Tab Tab > keycode 24 = a > keycode 25 = z > keycode 26 = e > keycode 27 = r > keycode 28 = t > keycode 29 = y > keycode 30 = u > keycode 31 = i > keycode 32 = o > keycode 33 = p > keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis > keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency > keycode 36 = Return > keycode 37 = Control_L > keycode 38 = q > keycode 39 = s > keycode 40 = d > keycode 41 = f > keycode 42 = g > keycode 43 = h > keycode 44 = j > keycode 45 = k > keycode 46 = l > keycode 47 = m M > keycode 48 = ugrave percent > keycode 49 = twosuperior > keycode 50 = Shift_L > keycode 51 = asterisk mu > keycode 52 = w > keycode 53 = x > keycode 54 = c > keycode 55 = v > keycode 56 = b > keycode 57 = n > keycode 58 = comma question > keycode 59 = semicolon period > keycode 60 = colon slash > keycode 61 = exclam section > keycode 62 = Shift_R > keycode 63 = KP_Multiply > keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L > keycode 65 = space space > keycode 66 = Caps_Lock > keycode 67 = F1 F11 > keycode 68 = F2 F12 > keycode 69 = F3 F13 > keycode 70 = F4 F14 > keycode 71 = F5 F15 > keycode 72 = F6 F16 > keycode 73 = F7 F17 > keycode 74 = F8 F18 > keycode 75 = F9 F19 > keycode 76 = F10 F20 > keycode 77 = Num_Lock > keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock > keycode 79 = KP_7 > keycode 80 = KP_8 > keycode 81 = KP_9 > keycode 82 = KP_Subtract > keycode 83 = KP_4 > keycode 84 = KP_5 > keycode 85 = KP_6 > keycode 86 = KP_Add > keycode 87 = KP_1 > keycode 88 = KP_2 > keycode 89 = KP_3 > keycode 90 = KP_0 > keycode 92 = Sys_Req > keycode 94 = less greater > keycode 95 = F11 F11 > keycode 96 = F12 F12 > !Windows right-click menu key > keycode 101 = Mode_switch > keycode 107 = Delete > keycode 108 = KP_Enter > keycode 109 = Control_R > keycode 112 = KP_Divide > keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key > keycode 114 = Break > keycode 110 = Find > keycode 98 = Up > keycode 99 = Prior > keycode 100 = Left > keycode 102 = Right > keycode 104 = Down > keycode 105 = Next > keycode 106 = Insert > > > add shift = Shift_L Shift_R > add lock = Caps_Lock > add control = Control_L Control_R > add mod1 = Alt_L > add mod2 = Mode_switch > add mod3 = Num_Lock > !add mod4 = Alt_R > add mod5 = Scroll_Lock > > From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Wed Aug 14 04:33:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:33:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) References: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> <000b01c2437d$cdffc6a0$0a001fac@whisper> Message-ID: <3D5A400D.4090107@free.fr> This doesn't solve my problem! I also have problems with my Num_lock: - In xterm, the Num_lock key is no taken in account. I can only type the numbers but can not yse the arrows, end insert....) - In rxvt, if the Num_lock is off I can use the numbers otherwise every key press closes my terminal window Benoit bitlov wrote: >Your xmodmap file is incomplete. >You should add this : >keycode 107 = Delete >keycode 108 = KP_Enter >keycode 109 = Control_R >keycode 110 = Pause >keycode 111 = Print >keycode 112 = KP_Divide >keycode 113 = Mode_switch >keycode 114 = Break >! right windows-logo key >! in "windows" keyboards the postion of the key is annoying, is where AltGr >! usually resides, so go definie it as AltGr >keycode 116 = Mode_switch >! right windows-menu key, redefined as Compose key >keycode 117 = Multi_key > >For my part, I have troubles with my numlock key. Could you try if yours is >functionning ? >-bitlov > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Benoit Ledoux" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:20 PM >Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) > > > > >>Hello, >> >>I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my >>french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work >>correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). >> >>I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the >>.Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the >>right-click menu key as the AltGr key. >> >>I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by >>windows when pressing the AltGr key. >> >>Any help would be appreciated. >>Benoit >> >>xev after pressing AltGr: >>KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), >> state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, >> XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" >> >>KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), >> state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, >> XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" >> >>KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), >> state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen >> >> >YES, > > >> XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" >> >>xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" >>KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), >> state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, >> XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" >> >>French .Xmodmap file: >>! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 >>! FVI CETP >> >>clear Shift >>clear Lock >>clear Control >>clear Mod1 >>clear Mod2 >>clear Mod3 >>clear Mod4 >>clear Mod5 >> >>keycode 9 = Escape Escape >>keycode 10 = ampersand 1 >>keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde >>keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign >>keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft >>keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft >>keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar >>keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave >>keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash >>keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum >>keycode 19 = agrave 0 at >>keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright >>keycode 21 = equal plus braceright >>keycode 22 = BackSpace >>keycode 23 = Tab Tab >>keycode 24 = a >>keycode 25 = z >>keycode 26 = e >>keycode 27 = r >>keycode 28 = t >>keycode 29 = y >>keycode 30 = u >>keycode 31 = i >>keycode 32 = o >>keycode 33 = p >>keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis >>keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency >>keycode 36 = Return >>keycode 37 = Control_L >>keycode 38 = q >>keycode 39 = s >>keycode 40 = d >>keycode 41 = f >>keycode 42 = g >>keycode 43 = h >>keycode 44 = j >>keycode 45 = k >>keycode 46 = l >>keycode 47 = m M >>keycode 48 = ugrave percent >>keycode 49 = twosuperior >>keycode 50 = Shift_L >>keycode 51 = asterisk mu >>keycode 52 = w >>keycode 53 = x >>keycode 54 = c >>keycode 55 = v >>keycode 56 = b >>keycode 57 = n >>keycode 58 = comma question >>keycode 59 = semicolon period >>keycode 60 = colon slash >>keycode 61 = exclam section >>keycode 62 = Shift_R >>keycode 63 = KP_Multiply >>keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L >>keycode 65 = space space >>keycode 66 = Caps_Lock >>keycode 67 = F1 F11 >>keycode 68 = F2 F12 >>keycode 69 = F3 F13 >>keycode 70 = F4 F14 >>keycode 71 = F5 F15 >>keycode 72 = F6 F16 >>keycode 73 = F7 F17 >>keycode 74 = F8 F18 >>keycode 75 = F9 F19 >>keycode 76 = F10 F20 >>keycode 77 = Num_Lock >>keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock >>keycode 79 = KP_7 >>keycode 80 = KP_8 >>keycode 81 = KP_9 >>keycode 82 = KP_Subtract >>keycode 83 = KP_4 >>keycode 84 = KP_5 >>keycode 85 = KP_6 >>keycode 86 = KP_Add >>keycode 87 = KP_1 >>keycode 88 = KP_2 >>keycode 89 = KP_3 >>keycode 90 = KP_0 >>keycode 92 = Sys_Req >>keycode 94 = less greater >>keycode 95 = F11 F11 >>keycode 96 = F12 F12 >>!Windows right-click menu key >>keycode 101 = Mode_switch >>keycode 107 = Delete >>keycode 108 = KP_Enter >>keycode 109 = Control_R >>keycode 112 = KP_Divide >>keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key >>keycode 114 = Break >>keycode 110 = Find >>keycode 98 = Up >>keycode 99 = Prior >>keycode 100 = Left >>keycode 102 = Right >>keycode 104 = Down >>keycode 105 = Next >>keycode 106 = Insert >> >> >>add shift = Shift_L Shift_R >>add lock = Caps_Lock >>add control = Control_L Control_R >>add mod1 = Alt_L >>add mod2 = Mode_switch >>add mod3 = Num_Lock >>!add mod4 = Alt_R >>add mod5 = Scroll_Lock >> >> >> >> > > > > > > From koch@ee.ethz.ch Wed Aug 14 04:37:00 2002 From: koch@ee.ethz.ch (Volker M. Koch) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:37:00 -0000 Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing Message-ID: <000001c24386$f752e9c0$9c268481@koch> Hi, I tried to install xfig on my Windows XP system and used your description under http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/wew036/latex/xfig.html. 1. I start X-Win32 2. I start Cygwin 3. In the first line of the Cygwin terminal it says: "bash: xhost: command not found" 4. I type "xfig" 5. An error message appears telling me that the program could not be startet because libICE.dll could not be found. Can you help? Thanks a lot, Volker From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Wed Aug 14 12:14:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing Message-ID: I visited the website you posted and they seem to have left out the fact that even if you use X-Win32, you still need to install some of the XFree86 components into Cygwin to support X clients. Since I'm not exactly sure which component(s) are needed, I suggest you install the XFree86-xserv package and use the Cygwin X server, XWin, instead of X-Win32. This should fix your problem. Note: If you're using the shortcut as described in the web site, change the Target to "startxwin.bat" (leaving the Start in path unchanged) to launch XWin. >From: "Volker M. Koch" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:37:26 +0200 > >Hi, > >I tried to install xfig on my Windows XP system and used your >description under http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/wew036/latex/xfig.html. > >1. I start X-Win32 >2. I start Cygwin >3. In the first line of the Cygwin terminal it says: "bash: xhost: >command not found" 4. I type "xfig" 5. An error message appears telling >me that the program could not be startet because libICE.dll could not be >found. > >Can you help? > >Thanks a lot, >Volker _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 14 12:20:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > I visited the website you posted and they seem to have left out the fact > that even if you use X-Win32, you still need to install some of the XFree86 > components into Cygwin to support X clients. Argl. Of you need all (cygwin) X libraries if you want to use (cygwin) X clients. The X Server (in your case X-Win32) is completely independent from the clients. You can install the server in a different host, use a java X server or maybe exceed. The important fact is X clients require X libraries. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From koch@ee.ethz.ch Thu Aug 15 02:23:00 2002 From: koch@ee.ethz.ch (Volker M. Koch) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 02:23:00 -0000 Subject: LaTeX; fig2eps Message-ID: <000401c2443d$618d01c0$9c268481@paderborn> Hi, I want to create an eps file from a fig file. That fig file contains LaTeX code (special flag set on). On a Sun machine, I used fig2eps to create eps files (LaTeX was started and the LaTeX code was used to create nice looking equations). What can I do under Cygwin to create such eps files with LaTeX code? Can you help? Thanks a lot, Volker From James.Coleman@s3group.com Thu Aug 15 04:04:00 2002 From: James.Coleman@s3group.com (James Coleman) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip interferes with xemacs selection and Re: xwinclip can copy from NT to KDE but not from KDE to NT Message-ID: <3D5B8ACB.140B8616@s3group.com> Hi, I have noticed something which may also be related to the KDE problem. Maybe not. But I think it is worth raising it as a known issue with xwinclip. If xemacs (various versions - on linux and solaris) is run under Cygwin XFree86 and if xwinclip is running then xemacs selection (e.g. Ctrl-SPC move Meta-W for copy) gets cancelled by xwinclip. The behaviour xemacs wants is to start a selection and not release it until the user does a copy. xwinclip, however works directly with the mouse and releases the selection as soon as it is made. This could be related with NT <-> KDE as in playing with xwinclip and trying to see who should control the release of the selection I can see several behaviours where the selection doesn't get handled well and xwinclip behaviour changes. I'm not using KDE myself. Looking at this with debug on in xwinclip I can see how to possibly work around this problem for xemacs (if no text selected ... then assume xemacs and don't release selection). This isn't a great workaround (selection using shift+arrow/movement still broken) but it is a start. It may be that applications do release the selection and xwinclip should never do this. I will test this more myself but if anyone else is working on xwinclip they may have a better idea how something like this should be fixed? In xevents.c FlushXEvents case SelectionNotify: after XGetWindowProperty something like this: #if WORKAROUND if (fUnicodeSupport) { if ( xtpText.nitems == 0 && ulReturnBytesLeft == 0 ) { /* workaround for xemacs */ /* set workaround flag */ workaroundToStopReassertionOnEmacsBeginSelect = 1; } } else {/* should probably do same */ } #endif then later in same case around XSetSelectionOwner just before break; #ifdef WORKAROUND if (workaroundToStopReassertionOnEmacsBeginSelect == 0) { #endif /* Reassert ownership of the selection */ iReturn = XSetSelectionOwner (pDisplay, event.xselection.selection, iWindow, CurrentTime); if (iReturn == BadAtom || iReturn == BadWindow) { printf ("Could not reassert ownership of selectionn"); exit (1); } #ifdef WORKAROUND } else { workaroundToStopReassertionOnEmacsBeginSelect = 0; } #endif So, if you've managed to get to here: Can anyone help and say if the release of the selection should be controlled by X applications or otherwise? Is this a known issue with xwinclip ... is anyone actively working on xwinclip? James. From geek@burri.to Thu Aug 15 05:00:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 05:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip interferes with xemacs selection and Re: xwinclip can copy from NT to KDE but not from KDE to NT In-Reply-To: <3D5B8ACB.140B8616@s3group.com> References: <3D5B8ACB.140B8616@s3group.com> Message-ID: <4642.128.2.120.244.1029412823.squirrel@mail.burri.to> James Coleman said: and releases the selection as soon as it is made. > Looking at this with debug on in xwinclip I can see how to possibly > work around this problem for xemacs (if no text selected ... then > assume xemacs and don't release selection). This isn't a great > workaround (selection using shift+arrow/movement still broken) but > it is a start. It may be that applications do release the selection > and xwinclip should never do this. I will test this more myself > but if anyone else is working on xwinclip they may have a better > idea how something like this should be fixed? It turns out that the workaround is really trivial. Turn off "active regions." I've been using xemacs for months, and I've never missed active regions. From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 15 07:32:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:32:00 -0000 Subject: AW: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing Message-ID: It took me about 2 minutes with Google to figure out that "fig2eps" is really an alias for "fig2dev", which is part of the TransFig package. You should look for the existence of fig2dev in the tarfile you installed. If it's not there, you can go to http://www.xfig.org, download the source for transfig, and have at it. Once you get ahold of fig2dev, try "man fig2dev" to figure out how to use it. >From: "Volker M. Koch" >To: "'Thomas Chadwick'" >CC: >Subject: AW: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:48:42 +0200 > >Hi Thomas! > > > of X-Win32. This should fix your problem. > >it works now. Thanks a lot! > > > > > Note: If you're using the shortcut as described in the web > > site, change the > > Target to "startxwin.bat" (leaving the Start in path > > unchanged) to launch > > XWin. > >Currently I run startxwin.bat directly. What do you mean with >"change the Target to "startxwin.bat" (leaving the Start in path >unchanged)"? > >Maybe you also know the answer to another problem. I want to create an >eps >file from a fig file. That fig file contains latex code (special flag >on). > >On a Sun machine, I used fig2eps to create eps files (latex was started >and >the latex code was used to create nice looking equations). > >What can I do under Cygwin to create such eps files with latex code? > >Thanks a lot, >Volker > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 15 07:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:41:00 -0000 Subject: use Cygwin/XFree86 as a XClient References: <005201c24439$087efd80$4002a8c0@vn.ibsdp.com> Message-ID: <3D5BBD95.40304@msu.edu> Thach, First of all, do not email me directly. Send all inquiries about the Cygwin/XFree86 project to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, where I have cc'd this message. Second, your terminology is exactly backwards. Cygwin/XFree86 provides an X Server that makes your display device available to X Client programs. You either want to display individual X Clients on your X Server, or you want to display a remote session on your X Server. Both options are discussed in the User's Guide in far greater detail than I care to repeat again: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Harold Le Ngoc Thach wrote: > Hi, > I have downloaded/setup Cygwin/XFree86. I have also read over your > "Cygwin/XFree86 User??s Guide". > I have heard KDE is working in Cygwin/XFree86. > > Can I use Cygwin/XFree86 (in Windows 2000) as a XClient to connect to > XServer in RedHat Linux 7.3? > > Please help me where to get document! > > Thanks! > > Thach IBS-DP! > From Jill.Goodson@mail.chdsl.net Thu Aug 15 08:24:00 2002 From: Jill.Goodson@mail.chdsl.net (Jill.Goodson@mail.chdsl.net) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:24:00 -0000 Subject: YOU HAVE TO TRY THIS! IT REALLY WORKS!! 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I deleted it, but later wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course I had no idea whom to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else?11 months passed then luckily it came again. I didn't delete this one! I made more $490,000.00 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks." Susan DeSuza New York, NY "It is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of the third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful! Thanxs to the Internet." Fred Dellaca Westport, New Zealand ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODA AND GET STARTED ON YOUR PATH TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! If you have any questions of the legality of this marketing program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices Federal Trade Commission Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington D.C. GOOD LUCK!! Remember that Einstein was as impressed with the power of compounding numbers as he was with relativity. Important: To remove yourself from this mailing please reply with the word "REMOVE" in the subject line. This message is in full compliance with the U.S. Federal requirements for commercial e-mail under bill s.1618 Title 111, Section 301, Paragraph (a) (2) (c) passed by the 105th Congress and cannot be considered SPAM since it includes a remove mechanism. From koch@ee.ethz.ch Thu Aug 15 08:44:00 2002 From: koch@ee.ethz.ch (Volker M. Koch) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:44:00 -0000 Subject: fig2eps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c24472$9d99ad50$9a268481@paderborn> Hi Thomas, I have adapted a little script which does the fig2eps procedure. Maybe you like it, too. It works fine. Thanks for your help, Volker #!/bin/tcsh -f ######### copy .fig cp $1 temp20020815.fig ######### create .pstex and .pstex_t files fig2dev -L pstex -p 1 temp20020815.fig >temp20020815.pstex fig2dev -L pstex_t -p temp20020815.pstex temp20020815.fig >temp20020815.pstex_t ######### create LaTeX2e source and compile it echo "\\documentclass{article}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\usepackage{epsfig,amsmath,amssymb}" >>temp20020815.tex foreach i ($argv[2-]) echo "\\usepackage{"$i"}" >>temp20020815.tex end echo "\\usepackage[colorlinks,hyperindex]{hyperref}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\usepackage{geometry}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\geometry{nohead,nofoot,left=0pt,right=0pt,top=0pt,bottom=0pt}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\pagestyle{empty}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\begin{document}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\input{%" >>temp20020815.tex echo temp20020815.pstex_t% >>temp20020815.tex echo "}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\end{document}" >>temp20020815.tex latex -interaction=batchmode temp20020815.tex ######### create a postscript file dvips -E temp20020815.dvi -o $1.eps ######### clean /tmp /bin/rm -f temp20020815* exit 0 From janneke@gnu.org Fri Aug 16 02:30:00 2002 From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 02:30:00 -0000 Subject: LaTeX; fig2eps In-Reply-To: <000401c2443d$618d01c0$9c268481@paderborn> ("Volker M dot Koch"'s message of "Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:23:12 +0200") References: <000401c2443d$618d01c0$9c268481@paderborn> Message-ID: <87vg6b40ck.fsf@peder.flower> "Volker M dot Koch" writes: > I want to create an eps file from a fig file. > On a Sun machine, I used fig2eps to create eps files (LaTeX was > started and the LaTeX code was used to create nice looking > equations). I don't know fig2eps, have a look at what it. It's probably just a script that does something like: fig2dev -L latex $1 $1.tex latex $1 dvips -E $1 You still need (to port) fig2dev for Cygwin. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From rahmanmahfuzur@hotmail.com Fri Aug 16 05:25:00 2002 From: rahmanmahfuzur@hotmail.com (Rahman Mahfuzur) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 05:25:00 -0000 Subject: Regarding compilation with powerpc-elf-gcc Message-ID: Dear Sir, I am a student doing masters in computer science in a university in Germany. I am doing development on Excimer PowerPC 603 evaluation board. So my first purpose is to set up the environment on compilation and liking for a powerpc in a Windows machine. I installed Cygwin first on my hard drive. The installation path is "c:\cygwin". Then I installed the GNU Toolkit For PowerPC. Both of the installtion procedure is successfully completed. Then I tried to compile a simple c program with gcc compiler and it can compile properly. But when I tried to compile a very simple c program with powerpc-elf-gcc compiler (the cross compiler for powerpc board), I got the following message: "Assembler messages: for reading.open : No such file or directory". I tried many possibilities to overcome this error message but I failed. So I do not have any more idea to solve this problem. Can you give me some suggestion on how to solve such a error message. Yours sincerely, Mohammad Mahfuzur Rahman _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From cgf@redhat.com Fri Aug 16 07:58:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: help: script to launch x-win and then do something in x-win In-Reply-To: <002101c2452c$cf549660$05921941@alleluja> References: <002101c2452c$cf549660$05921941@alleluja> Message-ID: <20020816145835.GA19367@redhat.com> I've redirected this to the proper mailing list. On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:57:02AM -0400, hongxun lee wrote: >i was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. >Before x-win lauch process was finished, the following commands were >finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Aug 16 10:02:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:02:00 -0000 Subject: More xrn build woes Message-ID: <20020816170241.76812.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> --- news@garydjones.mailshell.com wrote: > Hmm. I'm still trying to build xrn. > > $ xmkmf > mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak > imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config > In file included from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl:1845, > from Imakefile.c:9: > /tmp/IIf.576279:312: unterminated `#ifdef' conditional > imake: Exit code 1. > Stop. > > However: > $ cat -n /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl > [snip] > 1843 XCOMM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1844 XCOMM start of Imakefile > 1845 #include INCLUDE_IMAKEFILE > [snip] > > $ cat -n Imakefile > [snip] > 312 #ifdef MOTIF > 313 TKSED= -e 's/MOTIF//' -e '/XAW/d' -e > 's/notify()/Activate()/' \ > 314 -e 's/unset()/Disarm()/' -e 's/set()/Arm()/' \ > 315 -e 's/\([*.]\)label:/\1labelString:/' \ > 316 -e 's/no-op(RingBell/beep(/' \ > 317 -e 's/\.\([^.]*\)\.baseTranslations/*\1*translations/' \ > 318 -e 's/baseTranslations/translations/' \ > 319 -e 's/>Down/>osfDown/' -e 's/>Up/>osfUp/' \ > 320 -e 's/>Left/>osfLeft/' -e 's/>Right/>osfRight/' > 321 #else > 322 TKSED= -e 's/XAW//' -e '/MOTIF/d' > 323 #endif > [snip] In regard to your issue, it is most likely that the unterminated if statement is happening much earlier, the preprocessor just realizes it at that line. Also, you should probably be using 'xmkmf -a'. Other then that, I really can't think of anything else. You'll just have to go through every statement to make sure it's kosher. Perhaps someone else has an idea... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 16 13:32:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:32:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Manjunatha Shetty Kondalli wrote: > Could you please tell me the solution for following problem? > Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 _Never_ mail me directly when the question belongs to the cygwin-xfree mailinglist. BTW: The question was already asked. Please check the archives. Fup to cygwin-xfree bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Aug 16 13:52:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:52:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020816205254.27476.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Manjunatha Shetty Kondalli wrote: > > > Could you please tell me the solution for following problem? > > Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server > > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > > Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 > > _Never_ mail me directly when the question belongs to the > cygwin-xfree > mailinglist. *ROFLMAO*, they can't help it, they're just n00bies! Seriously though, the mcookie application is supposed to allivate this error. Perhaps it should be included in the script. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From lee.1801@osu.edu Fri Aug 16 17:56:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:56:00 -0000 Subject: Fw: script to launch x-win and then do something in x-win Message-ID: <000901c24589$16c80ac0$6372fe8c@alleluja> > Hi, > > i was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. > Before x-win lauch process was finished, the following commands were > finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. > > Thanks From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Fri Aug 16 23:48:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:48:00 -0000 Subject: Cross Compiling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d64eede.302411164@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:01:54 +0200 (CEST), Alexander Gottwald wrote: RE... >On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > >> >> I did a little research and indeed it is those damn SuSE people who broke >> the cross compiling system! Take a look at: >> http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/xconf2001/cc-imake.pdf > >Interesting article. I'll check what is needed to get current CVS cross- >compile in that build environment. > >> and see if that doesn't seem like it fits the current case. Note their >> desire to modify the imake source file instead of cross.def. This might >> explain why the build fails when it tries to compile imake. > >I made the following changes to build imake (the diff I'll send Thursday >will show this in complete) > >- set BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS to "-Ulinux -D__CYGWIN__" >- pass IMAKE_DEFINES="-Ulinux -D__CYGWIN__" to imake > >also there are a lot of changes need where some programs are build as >ProgramTarget but should be HostProgramTarget and another big problem >in cygwin.rules where all: tries to build $(addsuffix .exe,PROGRAMS) >instead of $(PROGRAMS). This results in "No rule to make target >bitmap.exe.exe" and so on. I dunno if it's any use to you chaps or not. Extract from native cygwin build on recent CVS xc (approx 2 or 3 days old)... make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.man', needed by `lndir.exe._man'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `rman.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `makestrs.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `revpath.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `bitmap.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `bmtoa.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `atobm.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `proxymngr.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xclipboard.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xcutsel.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xdm.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xdmshell.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `sessreg.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `chooser.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xfindproxy.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xinit.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xsm.exe.exe', needed by `all'. I've not built XFree before so can't determine the root cause. Nevertheless, for the most part (bit different for lndir makefile) it appears that the assignment to "PROGRAMS" already has '.exe' appended then "PROGS_EXE" does it again. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From lee.1801@osu.edu Sat Aug 17 03:47:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 03:47:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win Message-ID: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> Hi, I was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. Before x-win lauch process was finished, the commands followed were finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. What should I do ? Thanks From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Aug 17 04:20:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:20:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win In-Reply-To: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> References: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> Message-ID: <200208172120.35921.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 8:48 pm, hongxun lee wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. > Before x-win lauch process was finished, the commands followed were > finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. > > What should I do ? Thanks No one can help you unless you provide more information. You did not say which script, what commands or any detail at all with which anyone could offer any advice. It is not even clear that you are using the Cygwin-XFree program at all. For all I know you might be using the commercial X-Win32 program, although that probably does not involve a script. Please read the XFree-Cygwin website in more detail. The answer to your question (whatever it is, as currently we have no idea what your question is) is probably already answered. Then search the mailing list archives. Then read http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Then get back to to the list. Rasjid. From lee.1801@osu.edu Sat Aug 17 04:52:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win References: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> <200208172120.35921.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <00b101c245e4$abbe9850$8771fe8c@alleluja> #!/bin/bash startx cd /cygdrive/c pwd For this particular script, x-win was launched but the commands followed never ran either in bash-window or x-win; Sorry but didn't find answers to my difficulty in those archives. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rasjid Wilcox" To: ; "hongxun lee" Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 7:20 AM Subject: Re: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 8:48 pm, hongxun lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. > > Before x-win lauch process was finished, the commands followed were > > finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. > > > > What should I do ? Thanks > > No one can help you unless you provide more information. You did not say > which script, what commands or any detail at all with which anyone could > offer any advice. It is not even clear that you are using the Cygwin-XFree > program at all. For all I know you might be using the commercial X-Win32 > program, although that probably does not involve a script. > > Please read the XFree-Cygwin website in more detail. The answer to your > question (whatever it is, as currently we have no idea what your question is) > is probably already answered. Then search the mailing list archives. Then > read http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Then get back to > to the list. > > Rasjid. > > > From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Aug 17 05:12:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 05:12:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win In-Reply-To: <00b101c245e4$abbe9850$8771fe8c@alleluja> References: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> <200208172120.35921.rasjidw@openminddev.net> <00b101c245e4$abbe9850$8771fe8c@alleluja> Message-ID: <200208172212.22285.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 9:53 pm, hongxun lee wrote: > #!/bin/bash > > startx > cd /cygdrive/c > pwd > > For this particular script, x-win was launched but the commands followed > never ran either in bash-window or x-win; Sorry but didn't find answers to > my difficulty in those archives. Thanks You have not looked very carefully at the Cygwin-XFree website. See the users guide. http://xfree.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting The answer to your question is probably to either use a modified startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh or even a modified startx, although the script as you have written it does not make any sense. Are you trying to run those commands in an xterm? Will the commands keep changing? Nope, I still have no idea what you are really trying to do. However, I can say that what you are currently trying to do will not work. PLEASE go and do some more reading. As far as I can tell, your problem has nothing to do with Cygwin-XFree, but is a generic question about XWindows. There are better places to ask such questions. Rasjid. From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Sat Aug 17 07:37:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:37:00 -0000 Subject: More xrn build woes References: <20020816170241.76812.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 16 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > it is most likely that the > unterminated if statement is happening much earlier, the > preprocessor just realizes it at that line. Also, you should probably > be using 'xmkmf -a'. I believe I tried that, at some point, although the Xrn README does not say that it is needed. > Other then that, I really can't think of anything else. I seem to have solved that problem anyway, by starting again from scratch. I noticed that config.h had become "corrupted" (nasty cr-lf line endings :-) though that may not have been the problem. I would have posted this, but since I don't know exactly what solved the problem it seemed silly to do so. Anyway, after editing the config.h and Imakefile, it now builds the Makefile "okay" (i.e. AFAIK it is okay). I'm just looking at some other problems, now. From rahul@gdit.iiit.net Sat Aug 17 09:51:00 2002 From: rahul@gdit.iiit.net (Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 09:51:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem Message-ID: I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in windows. The details are below. First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 Now when I run a command like xterm & I get the following message Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 Xlib: No protocol specified Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. Could someone please help me out!!! Rahul. From bl.jobse@quicknet.nl Sat Aug 17 12:19:00 2002 From: bl.jobse@quicknet.nl (Ben Jobse) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:19:00 -0000 Subject: XWin not found Message-ID: <004801c24622$f87ed810$b1af49d5@glasbak> LS, I am new to this list and not familiar to Cygwin. I am rather familiar to Unix I downloaded and installed the latest release which also contains Xfree. I am running XP Home Attempting to startup Xfree (startxwin.sh) results in XWin: not found. And indeed I can't locate XWin. Looked into the install log but everything went well. Looked into FAQ's and the mail archive without success. ? thx, Ben Jobse From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Aug 17 12:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: XWin not found In-Reply-To: <004801c24622$f87ed810$b1af49d5@glasbak> Message-ID: Run: cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Send the results to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ben Jobse > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:19 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XWin not found > > > LS, > > I am new to this list and not familiar to Cygwin. > I am rather familiar to Unix > > I downloaded and installed the latest release which also contains Xfree. > I am running XP Home > > Attempting to startup Xfree (startxwin.sh) results in > XWin: not found. And indeed I can't locate XWin. > > Looked into the install log but everything went well. > Looked into FAQ's and the mail archive without success. > > ? > > thx, > Ben Jobse > > > > From bl.jobse@quicknet.nl Sat Aug 17 12:41:00 2002 From: bl.jobse@quicknet.nl (Ben Jobse) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:41:00 -0000 Subject: XWin not found References: Message-ID: <005001c24626$1f1f6d10$b1af49d5@glasbak> Oops, Not installed. Defaults to skip in the setup, like a couple more. I've got some homework to do. Thx for the hint Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: RE: XWin not found | Run: | cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv | | Send the results to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com | | Harold | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com | > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ben Jobse | > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:19 PM | > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com | > Subject: XWin not found | > | > | > LS, | > | > I am new to this list and not familiar to Cygwin. | > I am rather familiar to Unix | > | > I downloaded and installed the latest release which also contains Xfree. | > I am running XP Home | > | > Attempting to startup Xfree (startxwin.sh) results in | > XWin: not found. And indeed I can't locate XWin. | > | > Looked into the install log but everything went well. | > Looked into FAQ's and the mail archive without success. | > | > ? | > | > thx, | > Ben Jobse | > | > | > | > | From HowardWi@aol.com Sat Aug 17 18:24:00 2002 From: HowardWi@aol.com (HowardWi@aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree86 and VPNs with Windows XP Message-ID: <3477549E.6FBAD867.0077288D@aol.com> Hi, You mention in your FAQs that there might be a problem with Xfree if there is VPN software on the windows machine. I'm running windows XP and using a VPN to connect to my IRIX (SGI) machine at work. I have a wireless router with a build in firewall. I can run normal commands find, but somtime X11 commands generate errors like xlib: No protocol specified or Connection to ... refused by server. I have tried different DISPLAY settings only to have the command run (I think) on the IRIX machine. Do you know if this can be done or am I out of luck? Thanks, Howard Wilczynski From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Sat Aug 17 23:55:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:55:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020818075314.2a892283.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:21:05 +0530 (IST) "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux > and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in > windows. The details are below. > > First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. > > Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command > export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 > > Now when I run a command like > xterm & > > I get the following message > Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so > that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. > > > Could someone please help me out!!! > > Rahul. Rahul, at first sight this looks like a firewall issue. You appear to have X disabled. Jim From rahul@gdit.iiit.net Sun Aug 18 00:05:00 2002 From: rahul@gdit.iiit.net (Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 00:05:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem In-Reply-To: <20020818075314.2a892283.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Jim, I've checked it out! There is no firewall present! Could u think of any other factors??? Rahul. On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Jim George wrote: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:21:05 +0530 (IST) > "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > > > I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux > > and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in > > windows. The details are below. > > > > First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. > > > > Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command > > export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 > > > > Now when I run a command like > > xterm & > > > > I get the following message > > Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 > > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > > > > > Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so > > that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. > > > > > > Could someone please help me out!!! > > > > Rahul. > Rahul, > > at first sight this looks like a firewall issue. You appear to have X disabled. > > Jim > -- From mharnois@cpinternet.com Sun Aug 18 10:33:00 2002 From: mharnois@cpinternet.com (Michael D. Harnois) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 10:33:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs Message-ID: <878z34jcl2.fsf@cpinternet.com> All of the build instructions I've been able to find on the web suggest that the same simple "make World" instructions that work on other platforms ought to work on cygwin as well. Well ... I am getting a bunch of errors, all of which look pretty much like this one. What am I missing here? make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I../.. -I../../exports/i nclude -D__i386__ -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LOCALE -D_X86_ -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOP EN_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE - DNO_ALLOCA -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c -o revpath.o revpath.c rm -f revpath.exe gcc -o revpath.exe -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith revpath.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl,--enable-auto-import make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.man', needed by `lndir.exe._man'. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `rman.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `makestrs.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `revpath.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. -- Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran Church Washburn, Iowa 2L, UST School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace. -- the Dalai Lama From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Aug 18 22:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:21:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <878z34jcl2.fsf@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: Michael, Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build XFree86 for Cygwin: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Michael D. Harnois > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:34 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: building XFree86 from cvs > > > All of the build instructions I've been able to find on the web > suggest that the same simple "make World" instructions that work on > other platforms ought to work on cygwin as well. Well ... I am getting > a bunch of errors, all of which look pretty much like this one. What > am I missing here? > > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. > gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I../.. > -I../../exports/i > nclude -D__i386__ -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LOCALE -D_X86_ > -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOP > EN_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE > -D_GNU_SOURCE - > DNO_ALLOCA -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c -o revpath.o revpath.c > rm -f revpath.exe > gcc -o revpath.exe -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith > revpath.o > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl,--enable-auto-import > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.man', needed by > `lndir.exe._man'. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `rman.exe.exe', needed by `all'. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `makestrs.exe.exe', needed by `all'. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `revpath.exe.exe', needed by `all'. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > > > -- > Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational > Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran Church Washburn, Iowa > 2L, UST School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota > Where ignorance is our master, there is > no possibility of real peace. -- the Dalai Lama > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 19 00:49:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 00:49:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > Michael, > > Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build > XFree86 for Cygwin: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. It seems like the PROGRAMS vs. PROG_EXE problem. Didn't the patch got into CVS? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Mon Aug 19 02:41:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 02:41:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d60bc5c.486089910@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:21:41 -0400, "Harold Hunt" wrote: >Michael, > >Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build >XFree86 for Cygwin: >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > >Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. There's two of us making the same mistake then. I mentioned it here in the "Cross Compiling" thread (Sat 17th), thinking that perhaps the native build was connected - something concerning PROGRAMS. I'd much appreciate a hint! I looked at ProgramTargetName(,) and HostProgramTargetName() in cygwin.rules and didn't see anything obvious there. Concat(,) turned out to not be what I hoped (ie conditional) so back to my two original possibilities: (a) done something really silly (b) not my fault. I tweaked the makefiles to see if there'd be any subsequent issues. There weren't. I kept the original generated ones. Summary... --- ./config/util/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 03:43:06.000000000 +0100 +++ ./config/util/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:21:06.000000000 +0100 @@ -896,11 +896,12 @@ GCCMDEP_PROG = gccmakedep -LNDIR_PROG = lndir.exe +LNDIR_STUB = lndir +LNDIR_PROG = $(LNDIR_STUB).exe RMAN_PROG = rman.exe -PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) makestrs.exe revpath.exe $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) +PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) DEPLIBS = @@ -953,14 +954,14 @@ all:: $(LNDIR_PROG) - OBJS2 = $(LNDIR_PROG).o - SRCS2 = $(LNDIR_PROG).c + OBJS2 = lndir.o + SRCS2 = lndir.c -$(LNDIR_PROG).exe: $(OBJS2) $(DEPLIBS2) +$(LNDIR_STUB).exe: $(OBJS2) $(DEPLIBS2) $(RM) $@ $(CCLINK) -o $@ $(LDOPTIONS) $(OBJS2) $(LOCAL_LIBRARIES) $(LDLIBS) $(EXTRA_LOAD_FLAGS) -install:: $(LNDIR_PROG).exe +install:: $(LNDIR_STUB).exe @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR) ]; then \ set +x; \ else \ @@ -969,16 +970,16 @@ fi; \ (set -x; $(MKDIRHIER) $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)); \ fi - $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTPGMFLAGS) $(LNDIR_PROG).exe $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)/$(LNDIR_PROG).exe + $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTPGMFLAGS) $(LNDIR_STUB).exe $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)/$(LNDIR_STUB).exe -all:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html +all:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html -$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(RMAN).exe - $(RM) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html - $(RMAN) $(RMANOPTIONS) < $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) \ - > $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html && $(MV) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html $@ +$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(RMAN).exe + $(RM) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html + $(RMAN) $(RMANOPTIONS) < $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) \ + > $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html && $(MV) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html $@ -install.man:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html +install.man:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(DOCHTMLDIR) ]; then \ set +x; \ else \ @@ -989,21 +990,21 @@ fi @(SUF=`expr $(MANSUFFIX) \: '\(.\)'`; \ set -x; \ - $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(DESTDIR)$(DOCHTMLDIR)/$(LNDIR_PROG).$$SUF.html) + $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(DESTDIR)$(DOCHTMLDIR)/$(LNDIR_STUB).$$SUF.html) cleandir:: - $(RM) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html + $(RM) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html -all:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) +all:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) -$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX):: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) +$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX):: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) $(RM) $@ - $(RAWCPP) $(MANDEFS) $(EXTRAMANDEFS) <$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) | sed -e '/^# *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$$/d' -e '/^XCOMM$$/s//#/' -e '/^XCOMM[^a-zA-Z0-9_]/s/^XCOMM/#/' >$@ + $(RAWCPP) $(MANDEFS) $(EXTRAMANDEFS) <$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) | sed -e '/^# *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$$/d' -e '/^XCOMM$$/s//#/' -e '/^XCOMM[^a-zA-Z0-9_]/s/^XCOMM/#/' >$@ cleandir:: - $(RM) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) + $(RM) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) -install.man:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) +install.man:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR) ]; then \ set +x; \ else \ @@ -1012,7 +1013,7 @@ fi; \ (set -x; $(MKDIRHIER) $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)); \ fi - $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)/$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX) + $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)/$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX) all:: makestrs.exe --- ./programs/bitmap/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:50:36.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/bitmap/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:53:13.000000000 +0100 @@ -918,7 +918,7 @@ OBJS2 = bmtoa.o SRCS3 = atobm.c OBJS3 = atobm.o - PROGRAMS = bitmap.exe bmtoa.exe atobm.exe + PROGRAMS = bitmap bmtoa atobm OBJS = $(OBJS1) $(OBJS2) $(OBJS3) $(OBJS4) $(OBJS5) \ $(OBJS6) $(OBJS7) $(OBJS8) $(OBJS9) $(OBJS10) --- ./programs/proxymngr/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:54:29.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/proxymngr/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:54:58.000000000 +0100 @@ -905,7 +905,7 @@ OBJS1 = main.o pmdb.o config.o - PROGRAMS = proxymngr.exe + PROGRAMS = proxymngr LBXPROXY = $(BINDIR)/lbxproxy --- ./programs/xclipboard/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:57:05.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xclipboard/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:57:37.000000000 +0100 @@ -898,7 +898,7 @@ OBJS1 = xclipboard.o SRCS2 = xcutsel.c OBJS2 = xcutsel.o - PROGRAMS = xclipboard.exe xcutsel.exe + PROGRAMS = xclipboard xcutsel DEPLIBS = $(DEPXAWLIB) $(DEPXMULIB) $(DEPXTOOLLIB) $(DEPXPMLIB) $(DEPXLIB) LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XAWLIB) $(XMULIBONLY) $(XTOOLLIB) $(XPMLIB) $(XLIB) DEFINES = --- ./programs/xdm/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:59:34.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xdm/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:02:21.000000000 +0100 @@ -932,9 +932,9 @@ SRCS4 = sessreg.c OBJS4 = sessreg.o - CHOOSER = chooser.exe + CHOOSER = chooser - PROGRAMS = xdm.exe xdmshell.exe sessreg.exe $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) + PROGRAMS = xdm xdmshell sessreg $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) OSMAJORVERSION = 1 OSMINORVERSION = 3 --- ./programs/xfindproxy/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 05:05:01.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xfindproxy/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:05:27.000000000 +0100 @@ -901,7 +901,7 @@ OBJS1 = xfindproxy.o - PROGS1 = xfindproxy.exe + PROGS1 = xfindproxy PROGRAMS = $(PROGS1) --- ./programs/xinit/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 05:07:03.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xinit/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:07:22.000000000 +0100 @@ -905,7 +905,7 @@ SRCS1 = xinit.c OBJS1 = xinit.o SAMPLECONFIG = xinitrc - PROGRAMS = xinit.exe + PROGRAMS = xinit all:: startx $(SAMPLECONFIG) --- ./programs/xsm/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 05:08:02.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xsm/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:08:21.000000000 +0100 @@ -905,7 +905,7 @@ INCLUDES = -I. - PROGS1 = xsm.exe + PROGS1 = xsm PROGRAMS = $(PROGS1) -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 19 03:56:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d60bc5c.486089910@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > I looked at ProgramTargetName(,) and HostProgramTargetName() in > cygwin.rules and didn't see anything obvious there. Concat(,) turned out > to not be what I hoped (ie conditional) so back to my two original > possibilities: (a) done something really silly (b) not my fault. Please check cygwin.rules or the other cygwin.* files and search for all: $(PROGS_EXE) (or similar). Replace this with all: $(PROGRAMS) HTH. > I tweaked the makefiles to see if there'd be any subsequent issues. > There weren't. I kept the original generated ones. Summary... When changing the Makefiles, never run make World or make Makefiles. This will remove your changes. The better is to edit Imakefile and the files in config/cf. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From bertrand.muquet@stepmind.com Mon Aug 19 09:36:00 2002 From: bertrand.muquet@stepmind.com (Bertrand Muquet) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 Message-ID: <3D611E77.6B568009@stepmind.com> Hello I've got a problem running xdvi with Xfree 86 When Xdvi shall display .eps files, it does not work and I get the fwg msg: gs: unknown device:X11 What shall I do ? I thank you in advance, best regards Bertrand Muquet From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mon Aug 19 10:34:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:34:00 -0000 Subject: Bug (minor): xfree86 loses state of caps lock In-Reply-To: <9F2B2FB009DBD244BC5E17C10358F68C02D31037@ntuszg07.uszg.com> References: <9F2B2FB009DBD244BC5E17C10358F68C02D31037@ntuszg07.uszg.com> Message-ID: <20020819173445.GF19239@redhat.com> Redirected to the correct mailing list. On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:05:56AM -0700, ZAWE (Zasha Weinberg) wrote: > >I'm running XFree86 on cygwin under Windows 2000 (output of cygcheck is >below) and have come accross the following minor bug: it is possible to make >XFree86 think that the caps lock state is the opposite of what the rest of >Windows and the caps locks keyboard LED think. > >To reproduce this: >(1) Run XWin using the standard startxwin.sh >(2) Click in the root window to get twm to place the xterm window somewhere, >and place the mouse cursor in the xterm window, so the xterm has keyboard >focus (actually, as far as I can tell, it's possible to reproduce this bug >in an xterm at any time, not just immediately after XWin startup) >(3) Press caps lock, but don't release it >(4) While continuing to hold down caps lock, move the mouse cursor over one >of the program icons in the windows task bar, e.g. Internet Explorer >(5) Release caps lock with the mouse cursor over the program icon >(6) Set the focus once more on the xterm & type some letters: xterm and >other XFree86-hosted applications behave as if caps lock is off, but the >caps lock LED light on the keyboard is on, and all Windows applications >behave as if caps lock is on. If you press caps lock again, the reverse is >true. Thus XFree86 has the opposite state of the caps lock key. > >Although the steps to reproduce the problem seem obscure, I somehow manage >to do it surprisingly often -- I'm not sure why I hit caps lock at all, but >I apparently do. But, this is clearly a minor bug and some of the >workarounds are obvious. > >Workarounds: >- (obvious) quit & re-start XFree86 >- (obvious) Toggle caps lock when switching between a Windows and an >XFree86-hosted application, or use the shift key to type letters in the >correct case >- Perform the above steps that reproduce the problem, which will put XFree86 >back in sync with Windows > >The rest of this message is the output of cygcheck -s -v -r: >----------snip------------- > >Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics >Current System Time: Fri Aug 16 16:51:03 2002 > >Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 > >Path: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin > C:\cygwin\bin > C:\cygwin\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm > C:\cygwin\bin > c:\WINNT\system32 > c:\WINNT > c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem > >SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 >WinDir: C:\WINNT > >HOME = `C:\cygwin\zawe' >MAKE_MODE = `unix' >PWD = `/c/zasha/code/RasMol_2.7.1.1/src' >USER = `ZAWE' > >ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' >APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\zawe\Application Data' >COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' >COMPUTERNAME = `USZGA0393' >COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' >DISPLAY = `:0.0' >HOMEDRIVE = `C:' >HOMEPATH = `\cygwin\zawe' >HOMESHARE = `\\ntuszg01\users' >LOGNAME = `ZAWE' >LOGONSERVER = `\\QUIMBY' >MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' >NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' >OLDPWD = `/zawe/sims-f77' >OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' >OS = `Windows_NT' >PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH' >PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' >PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel' >PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' >PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0502' >PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' >PROMPT = `$P$G' >PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 >\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] >$ ' >SHLVL = `3' >SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' >SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' >TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\zawe\LOCALS~1\Temp' >TERM = `xterm' >TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\zawe\LOCALS~1\Temp' >USERDOMAIN = `USZG' >USERNAME = `ZAWE' >USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\zawe' >WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' >WINDOWID = `29360142' >WMAKER_BIN_NAME = `wmaker' >WRASTER_COLOR_RESOLUTION0 = `4' >_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' > >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > (default) = `/cygdrive' > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ > (default) = `C:\cygwin' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin > (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib > (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts >v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > (default) = `C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > >a: fd N/A N/A >c: hd NTFS 3075Mb 91% CP CS UN PA FC >d: fd N/A N/A >e: cd N/A N/A >f: net NTFS 100151Mb 39% CP CS UN PA FC >g: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >h: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >i: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >j: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >k: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >m: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >n: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >o: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >p: net NTFS 169561Mb 56% CP CS UN PA FC >s: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >t: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >u: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >w: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC > >C:\cygwin / system binmode >C:\cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode >C:\cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode >C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts system binmode >. /cygdrive user >binmode,cygdrive > >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/13 20:13 > 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/6 23:33 > 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 5:24 > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:28 > 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/19 19:05 > 17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 20:34 > 20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 17:27 > 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 11:24 > 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 1:28 > 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/23 21:54 > 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 10:09 > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:43 > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:43 > 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 21:19 > 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/8 16:46 > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:27 > 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:29 > 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:17 > 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:27 > 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 14:15 > 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 14:15 > 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 11:53 > 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/23 19:22 > 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 17:05 > 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/8 22:45 > 108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 20:34 > 121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 17:27 > 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 5:24 > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:39 > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:39 > 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 0:34 > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:43 > 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/11 20:38 > 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/23 19:31 > Cygwin DLL version info: > DLL version: 1.3.11 > DLL epoch: 19 > DLL bad signal mask: 19005 > DLL old termios: 5 > DLL malloc env: 28 > API major: 0 > API minor: 53 > Shared data: 3 > DLL identifier: cygwin1 > Mount registry: 2 > Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > Cygwin registry name: Cygwin > Program options name: Program Options > Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > Cygdrive default prefix: > Build date: Sun Jun 23 22:31:15 EDT 2002 > CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-11-3 > Shared id: cygwin1S3 > > 47k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygpbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygpbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 11:58 > 7k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygpgm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygpgm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 12:03 > 26k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygpnm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygpnm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 12:20 > 31k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygppm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygppm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 12:07 > >Cygwin Package Information >Last downloaded files to: C:\zasha\downloads >Last downloaded files from: ftp://ftp.oav.net/cygwin > >Package Version >WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 >XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 >XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 >XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 >_update-info-dir 00012-1 >ash 20020131-1 >autoconf 2.53a-1 >autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 >autoconf-stable 2.13-4 >automake 1.6.1-1 >automake-devel 1.6.1-3 >automake-stable 1.4p5-5 >bash 2.05a-3 >binutils 20011002-1 >bzip2 1.0.2-2 >clear 1.0-1 >crypt 1.0-1 >cvs 1.11.0-1 >cygrunsrv 0.95-1 >cygutils 1.1.1-1 >cygwin 1.3.11-3 >cygwin-doc 1.0-1 >diff 1.0-1 >diffutils 2.8.1-1 >enscript 1.6.3-2 >fileutils 4.1-1 >findutils 4.1.7-4 >fvwm 2.4.7-2 >gawk 3.0.4-1 >gcc 2.95.3-5 >gdb 20010428-3 >gdbm 1.8.0-4 >gettext 0.11.2-2 >ghostscript 6.51-4 >gnugo 3.2-1 >grep 2.5-1 >groff 1.17.2-1 >gzip 1.3.2-1 >inetutils 1.3.2-18 >jpeg 6b-7 >less 374-1 >lesstif 0.93.18-3 >libPropList 0.10.1-3 >libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 >libiconv2 1.8-2 >libintl 0.10.38-3 >libintl1 0.10.40-1 >libintl2 0.11.2-2 >libncurses5 5.2-1 >libncurses6 5.2-8 >libpng 1.2.3-1 >libpng10 1.0.13-3 >libpng12 1.2.3-1 >libpng2 1.0.12-1 >libpopt0 1.6.4-4 >libreadline4 4.1-2 >libreadline5 4.2a-1 >libtool 20020202a-1 >libtool-devel 20020502-2 >libtool-stable 1.4.2-2 >login 1.4-3 >m4 0.0 >make 3.79.1-7 >man 1.5g-2 >mingw-runtime 2.0-2 >mktemp 1.4-1 >mod_ssl 2.8.8-1.3.24-1 >ncurses 5.2-8 >openbox 0.99.1-3 >opengl 1.1.0-6 >openssh 3.4p1-1 >openssl 0.9.6d-1 >pcre 3.7-1 >perl 5.6.1-2 >pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 >popt 1.6.4-4 >python 2.2.1-1 >rcs 5.7-3 >readline 4.2a-1 >sed 3.02-1 >sh-utils 2.0-2 >tar 1.13.19-1 >tcltk 20001125-1 >tcsh 6.11.00-4 >termcap 20020403-1 >terminfo 5.2-3 >texinfo 4.2-3 >textutils 2.0.21-1 >tiff 3.5.7-1 >w32api 1.5-1 >wget 1.8.1-1 >which 1.5-1 >x2x 1.27-1 >zlib 1.1.4-1 > >Use -h to see help about each section > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 19 13:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:40:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs Message-ID: <200208192040.g7JKeWE44486@pilot03.cl.msu.edu> Alexander Gottwald said: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Michael, > > > > Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build > > XFree86 for Cygwin: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > > > Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. > > It seems like the PROGRAMS vs. PROG_EXE problem. Didn't the patch got into > CVS? > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > What patch? Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why we cannot use PROGRAMS? If not, then don't submit a patch. PROGS_EXE fixes a very specific problem and it was rather difficult to come up with that workaround. Search the mailing list archive or look at the commit log for cygwin.rules if you have any questions about what it fixes. Actually, it is right here: http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules.diff? r1=3.12&r2=3.13&f=h The original comment was: /* * ComplexProgramTarget_X, where 1 <= X <= 10, are all broken. * 1 is broken because 2 and 3 are not built during the make World pass, * 2 and 3 are only built later, during the make install pass. * 1 is also broken because there are now 10 ComplexProgramTargets instead * of 3. * * 1's problem is that PROGRAM2 and PROGRAM3 are not defined at the time * that 1 is processed, so the AllTarget(), DependTarget(), and LintTarget () * only apply to PROGRAM1, not to PROGRAM2 and PROGRAM3. However, we can't * simply set the AllTarget() to PROGRAMS, as Imake.rules does, as the * executable names in PROGRAMS are not wrapped in ProgramTargetName(). * * Fixing the ComplexProgramTargets will require some way of pulling out * each exectuable name from PROGRAMS, wrapping it in ProgramTargetName(), * then concatenating the resulting list back into PROGRAMS. We would * then only have to define ComplexProgramTarget_1, letting 2 through 10 * be defined by Imake.rules. * * Good luck. For now I am inclined to leave these rules slightly broken. */ I haven't had a single problem with this solution, nor has Alan Hourihane (at least none that he has mentioned to me). As far as I am concerned, until I see a step-by-step test case proving otherwise, there is no problem. I will not accept any patch that ``fixes'' the build by removing the PROGS_EXE functionality. If you have a specific executable that is not supposed to have its name wrapped with ProgramTargetName, then you need to fix the Imakefile for that executable, not cygwin.rules. If you have a specific version of make or if you are using a host version of imake that is causing problems, then you need to work that issue out on your own and see if you can come up with a more compatible solution. Until then, PROGS_EXE stays. 'Nuff said. Harold From ahmed.a.helmy@intel.com Mon Aug 19 16:16:00 2002 From: ahmed.a.helmy@intel.com (Helmy, Ahmed A) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:16:00 -0000 Subject: Can't open display Message-ID: <2B4461BF89BAD511A86100508B66D53804B3A759@fmsmsx112.fm.intel.com> Hi All, I have installed the cygwin-xfree package. the bash shell is working fine but I can't get the x server to work. when I type xeyes or xclock it gave me a can't open display error message. although when I type X it opens a window that has nothing in it. could any body help Thanks From cbgenrich@yahoo.com Mon Aug 19 22:51:00 2002 From: cbgenrich@yahoo.com (CB Genrich) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:51:00 -0000 Subject: XWin fails to render KDE properly Message-ID: <00a101c2480d$9cf9b360$0100a8c0@CBGJ> I have this working on a similar XP box across the room. But can't get it to work on this XP box. This one has an NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/400 and also an NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/100. Two display adapters, two monitors. XWin gets and renders a Linux XDM login screen properly. After login, the KDE splash screen isn't properly rendered, and so it goes for much of KDE. We're talking KDE 3.0. The splash screen sequences through a half dozen little icons and writes a text description at the bottom of the splash screen as it progresses. The problem is first observed in that the icons are not shown and the text messages over-write one another without erasing the previous ones. The KDE desktop is rendered but almost no icons are shown. etc. The working XP box had the same problem and it was resolved when I went to XWin -fullscreen -depth 24 (as I recall). Can someone suggest a path for me to take to get this working? -CB- cbgenrich@yahoo.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 02:03:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:03:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: <3D611E77.6B568009@stepmind.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Bertrand Muquet wrote: > Hello > > I've got a problem running xdvi with Xfree 86 > When Xdvi shall display .eps files, it does not work > and I get the fwg msg: > gs: unknown device:X11 This message is coming from ghostscript. This gs is not compiled with X11 support. Recompile ghostscript to use X11 as output device. Or ask the maintainer of ghostscript if he could provide packages with X11 support. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 02:24:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:24:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <200208192040.g7JKeWE44486@pilot03.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why we cannot use > PROGRAMS? No. PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the contains xterm.exe.exe bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 20 05:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 05:48:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > > > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why > we cannot use > > PROGRAMS? > > No. > PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But > the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. > > So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the > contains xterm.exe.exe > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 06:13:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:13:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because > some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro > accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. > On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this > makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the > target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName > wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Ok. I just checked some Imakefiles. You're right. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 06:20:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:20:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <878z34jcl2.fsf@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: On 18 Aug 2002, Michael D. Harnois wrote: > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. > gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I../.. -I../../exports/i The Imakefile is broken: #if HasSymLinks #if CrossCompiling LNDIR_PROG = HostProgramTargetName(lndir) #else LNDIR_PROG = ProgramTargetName(lndir) #endif #endif ... #if HasSymLinks #if CrossCompiling SimpleHostProgramTarget_2(lndir) #else AllTarget($(LNDIR_PROG)) SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) #endif #endif So you see, it substitutes SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir.exe) which is wrong. This should bo SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir). bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From mharnois@cpinternet.com Tue Aug 20 08:07:00 2002 From: mharnois@cpinternet.com (Michael Harnois) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:07:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have now searched my log ... the problem applies to lndir, rman, makestrs, revpath, bitmap, bmtoa, atobm, proxymngr, xclipboard, xcutsel, xdm, xdmshell, sessreg, chooser, xfindproxy, xinit, and xsm. Michael D. Harnois 2L, University of St. Thomas School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:48 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > > > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why > we cannot use > > PROGRAMS? > > No. > PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But > the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. > > So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the > contains xterm.exe.exe > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From mharnois@cpinternet.com Tue Aug 20 08:13:00 2002 From: mharnois@cpinternet.com (Michael Harnois) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oooh. This is stranger than I thought. Some of those programs do get built correctly, despite the log messages. For instance in config/util, makestrs, revpath, and rman build ... but lndir doesn't. Michael D. Harnois 2L, University of St. Thomas School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Michael Harnois Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:08 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs I have now searched my log ... the problem applies to lndir, rman, makestrs, revpath, bitmap, bmtoa, atobm, proxymngr, xclipboard, xcutsel, xdm, xdmshell, sessreg, chooser, xfindproxy, xinit, and xsm. Michael D. Harnois 2L, University of St. Thomas School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:48 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > > > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why > we cannot use > > PROGRAMS? > > No. > PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But > the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. > > So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the > contains xterm.exe.exe > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 20 08:42:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:42:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020820154243.61078.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Bertrand Muquet wrote: > > > Hello > > > > I've got a problem running xdvi with Xfree 86 > > When Xdvi shall display .eps files, it does not work > > and I get the fwg msg: > > gs: unknown device:X11 > > This message is coming from ghostscript. This gs is not compiled > with X11 > support. > > Recompile ghostscript to use X11 as output device. Or ask the > maintainer > of ghostscript if he could provide packages with X11 support. > Actually, this is not true. The ghostscript-x11 package contains the X11 gs binary, and installs it in /usr/X11R6/bin. So all he has to do, if it is possible, is to tell Xdvi to use that binary instead. I have no idea how to do that, though. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 08:56:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:56:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: <20020820154243.61078.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > So all he has to > do, if it is possible, is to tell Xdvi to use that binary instead. I > have no idea how to do that, though. man xdvi -interpreter filename (.interpreter) Use filename as the Ghostscript in? terpreter. By default it uses gs. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From bernie@fantasyfarm.com Tue Aug 20 10:27:00 2002 From: bernie@fantasyfarm.com (Bernie Cosell) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:27:00 -0000 Subject: Setting up a minimal "Xterminal" package Message-ID: <3D624321.6476.684EB715@localhost> As part of a guerilla effort to get the college I teach at to be more Linux- accepting, I'd like to put together as small and simple a package as possible that I can drop onto a Windows box that'll turn it into an Xterminal running Gnome off of a nearby RedHat box. Is there some howto or other docs/messages that describe how to do this ? I figure all I need is XWin.exe and enough DLLs to make it happy [and probably some setup/config files], but I don't know enough about the intricacies of the distro to know if that's even correct, much less how to extract that subset and install *just*that*much* by itself, and I know I'm in WAY over my head on this... my goal here is to repackage *JUST* the pieces I'll need in a self-contained, self-installing zip archive, so that the students will be just "one click" away from being able to connect to the Unix server and run GNOME off of it [and they'll have to do it every day, because the PC-lab-police wipe the HD and reimage the HD every night! UGH!! Hence it needs to be fairly easy, uncomplicated, etc] Thanks! /Bernie\-- Bernie Cosell Fantasy Farm Fibers mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com Pearisburg, VA --> Too many people, too few sheep <-- From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 20 11:26:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:26:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020820182648.69048.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > So all he has to > > do, if it is possible, is to tell Xdvi to use that binary > instead. I > > have no idea how to do that, though. > > man xdvi > -interpreter filename > (.interpreter) Use filename as the Ghostscript in?? > terpreter. By default it uses gs. Well I was trying to encourage him to look up the answer himself rather then just give to him. Oh well... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Wed Aug 21 01:35:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:35:00 -0000 Subject: Can't open display In-Reply-To: <2B4461BF89BAD511A86100508B66D53804B3A759@fmsmsx112.fm.intel.com> References: <2B4461BF89BAD511A86100508B66D53804B3A759@fmsmsx112.fm.intel.com> Message-ID: <20020821093336.09eaf3d8.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:14:40 -0700 "Helmy, Ahmed A" wrote: > Hi All, > > I have installed the cygwin-xfree package. the bash shell is working fine > but I can't get > the x server to work. when I type xeyes or xclock it gave me a can't open > display error > message. although when I type X it opens a window that has nothing in it. > > could any body help > > Thanks Use startxwin.bat or, preferably, startxwin.sh from within a bash window. Both are in /usr/X11R6/bin Jim From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Wed Aug 21 01:58:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:58:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem In-Reply-To: References: <20020818075314.2a892283.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020821095645.13c64086.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:34:40 +0530 (IST) "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > Hi Jim, > I've checked it out! There is no firewall present! Could u think > of any other factors??? > Rahul. > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Jim George wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:21:05 +0530 (IST) > > "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > > > > > I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux > > > and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in > > > windows. The details are below. > > > > > > First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. > > > > > > Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command > > > export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 > > > > > > Now when I run a command like > > > xterm & > > > > > > I get the following message > > > Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 > > > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so > > > that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me out!!! > > > > > > Rahul. > > Rahul, > > > > at first sight this looks like a firewall issue. You appear to have X disabled. > > > > Jim > > > > -- Rahul, if it wasn't the firewall...are you able to run X applications on your local server? Try starting X using startxwin.sh or .bat then run xeyes or something from your xterm. What do you get when you echo $DISPLAY on your cygwin X-Server? What do you get when you echo $DISPLAY on your remote Linux system? Can you 'ping' mypc_ip from Linux? Jim From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Wed Aug 21 02:16:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 02:16:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:13:50 -0500, "Michael Harnois" wrote: >Oooh. This is stranger than I thought. Some of those programs do get built >correctly, despite the log messages. For instance in config/util, makestrs, >revpath, and rman build ... but lndir doesn't. Probably because "gcc -o foo" yields foo.exe automatically but unfortunately dependencies and so forth won't know that. Your average "configure & make" app can sometimes get away with it - only to fail on the install & uninstall (good indication of this problem existing is make invokes the linker even though the last make succeeded). Sadly this is my first forray into the world of Imake so take my advice for this particular problem with a strong pinch of salt. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From rasjidw@openminddev.net Wed Aug 21 03:53:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 03:53:00 -0000 Subject: Setting up a minimal "Xterminal" package In-Reply-To: <3D624321.6476.684EB715@localhost> References: <3D624321.6476.684EB715@localhost> Message-ID: <200208212053.57808.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 3:24 am, Bernie Cosell wrote: > As part of a guerilla effort to get the college I teach at to be more > Linux- accepting, I'd like to put together as small and simple a package as > possible that I can drop onto a Windows box that'll turn it into an > Xterminal running Gnome off of a nearby RedHat box. Is there some howto or > other docs/messages that describe how to do this ? I figure all I need is > XWin.exe and enough DLLs to make it happy [and probably some setup/config > files], but I don't know enough about the intricacies of the distro to know > if that's even correct, much less how to extract that subset and install > *just*that*much* by itself, and I know I'm in WAY over my head on this... > > my goal here is to repackage *JUST* the pieces I'll need in a > self-contained, self-installing zip archive, so that the students will be > just "one click" away from being able to connect to the Unix server and run > GNOME off of it [and they'll have to do it every day, because the > PC-lab-police wipe the HD and reimage the HD every night! UGH!! Hence it > needs to be fairly easy, uncomplicated, etc] A quick search of the archives on the word 'minimal' would have given results. In particular, have a look at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/, posts from 14-16 June. What you are after has been done by several people, including myself. My initial version in fact required nothing to be installed on the Windows machines. The whole thing can be run from a Samba share on the linux box, and the Windows users just click on a shortcut in that share (or copy it to their desktop etc). See http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00237.html for further details. I also have a fairly comprehensive set of instructions for enabling XDMCP on RedHat 7.3. I can send you these if you like, although I'm assuming you have got that sorted out already. I hope you are aware that XDMCP sessions are very insecure, which may or may not be acceptable in the environement you are proposing. If you want support for encrypted sessions via ssh, then it all gets more complicated, and you will either need to do a lot of learning yourself, or you could offer to help with an existing (sub)project (or both!). Rasjid. From postmaster@adenet.ch Wed Aug 21 04:45:00 2002 From: postmaster@adenet.ch (Adam B. Dombi) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 04:45:00 -0000 Subject: Technical Questions Message-ID: <000701c24907$f49b1c80$85fcfea9@t031> Dear Ladies and Gentlemen I'm student at the University for applied sciences Rapperswil in Switzerland. (www.hsr.ch) Can you tell me, where I will find informations about: a) Methods in Cygwin C++ for get a Keycode. I plan to write a class, that formats Input fields on c console- screen - like good old Clipper did it years ago. b) A reference for the Win32-API-Interface Thank you in advance! With best Regards A. Dombi, adombi@hsr.ch || postmaster@adenet.ch From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 21 06:31:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 06:31:00 -0000 Subject: Technical Questions In-Reply-To: <000701c24907$f49b1c80$85fcfea9@t031> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Adam B. Dombi wrote: > b) A reference for the Win32-API-Interface The Microsoft Developer Network has such a reference. msdn.microsoft.com bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cbgenrich@yahoo.com Wed Aug 21 08:15:00 2002 From: cbgenrich@yahoo.com (CB Genrich) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:15:00 -0000 Subject: XWin fails to render KDE properly References: <00a101c2480d$9cf9b360$0100a8c0@CBGJ> Message-ID: <008701c24925$a2af24c0$0100a8c0@CBGJ> What is the state of Xinerama on Cygwin? Could the dual-head nature of this setup be the problem? ----- Original Message ----- From: "CB Genrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: XWin fails to render KDE properly > I have this working on a similar XP box across the room. > But can't get it to work on this XP box. > > This one has an NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/400 and also an > NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/100. Two display adapters, two > monitors. > > XWin gets and renders a Linux XDM login screen properly. > > After login, the KDE splash screen isn't properly rendered, > and so it goes for much of KDE. > > We're talking KDE 3.0. The splash screen sequences > through a half dozen little icons and writes a text description > at the bottom of the splash screen as it progresses. > > The problem is first observed in that the icons are not shown > and the text messages over-write one another without erasing > the previous ones. The KDE desktop is rendered but almost > no icons are shown. etc. > > The working XP box had the same problem and it was resolved > when I went to XWin -fullscreen -depth 24 (as I recall). > > Can someone suggest a path for me to take to get this > working? > > -CB- cbgenrich@yahoo.com From c_twiner@hotmail.com Wed Aug 21 12:58:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:58:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, I'm a first time poster so appologies if I've misunderstood the etiquette rules or not found a previous answer to this. The message at : http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-01/msg00213.html Lists polling as an unsatisfactory way of handling the ownership setting issue. Whilst I agree I do have a slight variation to question on. If a windows hook were used i.e. SetWindowsHookEx would this not tell you when the XWin looses focus. Would this not be a good time to claim ownership of selection and ask for it's content. The reverse would also be true that you could use the time when XWin gains focus to handle the setting ownership of PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD to hold the windows clipboard data. Again excuse the ignorance if this isn't helpful in anyway. I only started looking at xwinclip 3 days ago and I'd never seen X development before that. Hope it is helpful, Chris Twiner _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From peterpan@sc23.sc.mcel.mot.com Wed Aug 21 19:32:00 2002 From: peterpan@sc23.sc.mcel.mot.com (Peter.Pan) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:32:00 -0000 Subject: How to display chinese words in X of cygwin using QT2 Message-ID: <000701c24a02$53a53080$b60879c8@sc.mcel.mot.com> Hi, My work needs to display chinese words in X. I use the latest cygwin version with XFree 86 4.x. And my application uses QT2 library. I add simsun font to X by using "xset +fp ..." command. There is no error response. And I can find the font has been added successfully because I can find simsun by using "xlsfonts" command. But I can not display simsun font correctly by using "xfd" command to display that font. Of course, my application can not display chinese words correctly. I have tried to set environment variables such as "LC_ALL" & "LANG" just like in linux. But soonI found it is no use. The font I added is TTF font. The release notes of XFree86 4.x says by now XFree86 supports TTF by using module loader. But I don't know how to modify its config file to load that loader. In fact, I haven't found it's config file in cygwin because it is not the same as in linux. Would you please give me a hand? Thanks a lot. From henocq@gesma.fr Fri Aug 23 00:02:00 2002 From: henocq@gesma.fr (Hugues Henocq) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:02:00 -0000 Subject: XWin problems Message-ID: <3D65E2A6.20ACF3@gesma.fr> Hy, I have installed Xfree86 on my PC running in WIN NT using XWin-Test65. I noticed these 2 problems: -XWin -h does not work (option -h doesn't work. -XWin at start up does not read the config file even if I use option -xf86config, so in order to configure my French keyboard, I must need the option -xkbmap "xfree86(fr)" on the command line and add some fonts with option -fp tcp/.... in order to reach server HP or solaris. Is it normal or do I have a bad configuration ? Hugues H??nocq. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 23 02:19:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 02:19:00 -0000 Subject: XWin problems In-Reply-To: <3D65E2A6.20ACF3@gesma.fr> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Hugues Henocq wrote: > Hy, > > I have installed Xfree86 on my PC running in WIN NT using XWin-Test65. I > noticed these 2 problems: > > -XWin -h does not work (option -h doesn't work. The output is written to /tmp/XWin.log. > -XWin at start up does not read the config file even if I use option > -xf86config, so in order to configure my French keyboard, I must > need the option -xkbmap "xfree86(fr)" on the command line and add some > fonts with option -fp tcp/.... in order to reach server HP or solaris. > Is it normal or do I have a bad configuration ? This is not normal. What messages are in /tmp/XWin.log ? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Fri Aug 23 05:12:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 05:12:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> References: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <3d6724fa.283144340@smtp.ntlworld.com> Hi Folks, First off, my apologies to all for not replying, especially to Alexander. It simply takes an age to rebuild xfree here. One typo and a rebuild has to wait until the next night! :-( Am I on the right track - ie have I broken all the non-cygwin builds? It builds natively and a cursory "make -n install" within 'config/util' looks like the '.exe' extenders are correct. --- obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-21 13:44:21.000000000 +0100 +++ obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile 2002-08-21 15:35:08.000000000 +0100 @@ -29,8 +29,8 @@ RMAN_PROG = HostProgramTargetName(rman) #endif -PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ - ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) +PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) + DEPLIBS = #ifndef Win32Architecture EXTRA_LIBRARIES = @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ SimpleHostProgramTarget_2(lndir) #else AllTarget($(LNDIR_PROG)) -SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) +SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) #endif #endif #endif @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ AllTarget(HostProgramTargetName(rman)) SimpleHostProgramTarget_3(rman) #else -AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) +AllTarget(rman) SimpleProgramTarget_5(rman) #endif SpecialCObjectRule(rman,NullParameter,-DVOLLIST='$(VOLLIST)' -DMANTITLEPRINTF='$(MANTITLEPRINTF)' -DMANREFPRINTF='$(MANREFPRINTF)' -DPOLYGLOTMANVERSION='$(RMANVERSION)' -DXFree86) I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post details? Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are sorted out. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 23 05:58:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 05:58:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6724fa.283144340@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > > I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post > details? You could send a diff against current CVS >Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a > header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are > sorted out. Please send the output from that error bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From rrschulz@cris.com Fri Aug 23 07:11:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:11:00 -0000 Subject: XWin problems In-Reply-To: <3D65E2A6.20ACF3@gesma.fr> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020823071008.01fad648@pop3.cris.com> Hi, What does this undocumented "-h" option do? Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 00:22 2002-08-23, Hugues Henocq wrote: >Hy, > >I have installed Xfree86 on my PC running in WIN NT using XWin-Test65. >I noticed these 2 problems: > >-XWin -h does not work (option -h doesn't work. > >... > >Is it normal or do I have a bad configuration ? > >Hugues H?nocq. From j-meister@home.com Fri Aug 23 08:01:00 2002 From: j-meister@home.com (Jeff M.) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:01:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <002501c24ab6$06626450$3aff3244@cp773274a> Very newbie-ish question, sorry. When I start X by any of the methods in startup-scripts.tgz, it makes the display window where obviously everything is supposed to happen, but before I can even get a good look at it, the blank white window disappears, and the other scripts run by the startup script report that they can't open display 127.0.0.1:0.0. Ideas? - Jeff Meister From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 23 08:26:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:26:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... In-Reply-To: <002501c24ab6$06626450$3aff3244@cp773274a> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Jeff M. wrote: > Very newbie-ish question, sorry. > > When I start X by any of the methods in startup-scripts.tgz, it makes the > display window where obviously everything is supposed to happen, but before > I can even get a good look at it, the blank white window disappears, and the > other scripts run by the startup script report that they can't open display > 127.0.0.1:0.0. Please send /tmp/XWin.log. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From j-meister@home.com Fri Aug 23 08:46:00 2002 From: j-meister@home.com (Jeff M.) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:46:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <001d01c24abc$5677e400$3aff3244@cp773274a> Contents of XWin.log are: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864 ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 - Jeff Meister From j-meister@home.com Fri Aug 23 08:47:00 2002 From: j-meister@home.com (Jeff M.) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:47:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <002d01c24abc$7820ae70$3aff3244@cp773274a> Contents of XWin.log are: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864 ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 - Jeff Meister From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Aug 23 14:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6724fa.283144340@smtp.ntlworld.com> from "Guy Harrison" at Aug 23, 2002 12:10:26 pm Message-ID: <200208232148.g7NLm6P158390@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Well, I can't offer any help because I have no idea what you are doing. In order for me to help, or for me to even investigate this problem any further, you are going to have to follow, exactly, the instructions for compiling that are in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide (http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/). You will then have to be very clear about whether you are cross compiling or whether you are building on Cygwin, and you will have to tell me the precise step in the Contributor's Guide instructions that you start to have problems at. You will also have to send in your World.log file (which will be generated if you follow the CG instructions). I simply cannot spend time debugging each developers command-sequence that they use for building. You've got to stick to the prescribed sequence in order to get help from me. Until then, Harold > > > Hi Folks, > > =46irst off, my apologies to all for not replying, especially to > Alexander. It simply takes an age to rebuild xfree here. One typo and a > rebuild has to wait until the next night! :-( > > Am I on the right track - ie have I broken all the non-cygwin builds? It > builds natively and a cursory "make -n install" within 'config/util' > looks like the '.exe' extenders are correct. > > --- obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-21 > 13:44:21.000000000 +0100 > +++ obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile 2002-08-21 15:35:08.000000000 > +0100 > @@ -29,8 +29,8 @@ > RMAN_PROG =3D HostProgramTargetName(rman) > #endif > =20 > -PROGRAMS =3D $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ > - ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > +PROGRAMS =3D rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > + > DEPLIBS =3D > #ifndef Win32Architecture > EXTRA_LIBRARIES =3D > @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ > SimpleHostProgramTarget_2(lndir) > #else > AllTarget($(LNDIR_PROG)) > -SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) > +SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) > #endif > #endif > #endif > @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ > AllTarget(HostProgramTargetName(rman)) > SimpleHostProgramTarget_3(rman) > #else > -AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) > +AllTarget(rman) > SimpleProgramTarget_5(rman) > #endif > SpecialCObjectRule(rman,NullParameter,-DVOLLIST=3D'$(VOLLIST)' > -DMANTITLEPRINTF=3D'$(MANTITLEPRINTF)' -DMANREFPRINTF=3D'$(MANREFPRINTF)' > -DPOLYGLOTMANVERSION=3D'$(RMANVERSION)' -DXFree86) > > I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post > details? Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a > header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are > sorted out. > > > --=20 > swamp-dog@ntlworld.com > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Aug 23 14:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:51:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... In-Reply-To: <002d01c24abc$7820ae70$3aff3244@cp773274a> from "Jeff M." at Aug 23, 2002 11:48:04 am Message-ID: <200208232151.g7NLpcu158418@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> We need to know what version of Cygwin/XFree86 you have installed, so run this command from a Cygwin bash prompt and send in the results: cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Thanks, Harold > > Contents of XWin.log are: > > ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864 > ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 > > - Jeff Meister > > From jeff@nanaki.net Fri Aug 23 15:32:00 2002 From: jeff@nanaki.net (Jeff M.) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:32:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <000701c24af5$23ea5d40$3aff3244@cp773274a> Heh. Didn't quite work. I'm pretty sure I have the newest version as I just downloaded Cygwin yesterday... unless the server I got it from had an outdated version. When I tried running X again just now, I got the IO error 104 that is referred to in the FAQ, but that pointed me to the solution to another problem, and it didn't really tell me anything to do. There was a test binary of a new XWin.exe, so I downloaded that and replaced, but I still get the same thing: window flicks on and then off, and then since it's not there, all the other scripts fail to run. And here's what happened when I tried that command: Administrator@cp773274-a ~ $ cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Cygwin Package Information Package Version Use -h to see help about each section Administrator@cp773274-a ~ $ Poo. Heh. - Jeff Meister From rrschulz@cris.com Fri Aug 23 15:50:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:50:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... In-Reply-To: <000701c24af5$23ea5d40$3aff3244@cp773274a> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020823154238.02099cd8@pop3.cris.com> Jeff, You should note that "cygcheck -c " does not issue a diagnostic when is not the name of an installed package. That suggests that you don't have the XFree86-xserv package installed or something went wrong with the installation or damaged it after it was installed. Here's what my system reports: % cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Cygwin Package Information Package Version XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-10 Use -h to see help about each section % cygcheck -c XFree86-nosuch Cygwin Package Information Package Version Use -h to see help about each section It also seems that the "Use -h to see help about each section" message is spurious when a proper invocation is given. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 15:33 2002-08-23, Jeff M. wrote: >Heh. Didn't quite work. I'm pretty sure I have the newest version as I just >downloaded Cygwin yesterday... unless the server I got it from had an >outdated version. > >When I tried running X again just now, I got the IO error 104 that is >referred to in the FAQ, but that pointed me to the solution to another >problem, and it didn't really tell me anything to do. There was a test >binary of a new XWin.exe, so I downloaded that and replaced, but I still get >the same thing: window flicks on and then off, and then since it's not >there, all the other scripts fail to run. > >And here's what happened when I tried that command: > >Administrator@cp773274-a ~ >$ cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv >Cygwin Package Information >Package Version > >Use -h to see help about each section > >Administrator@cp773274-a ~ >$ > >Poo. Heh. > >- Jeff Meister From rahul@gdit.iiit.net Sun Aug 25 04:51:00 2002 From: rahul@gdit.iiit.net (Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 04:51:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window Message-ID: Hi, Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be appreciated. Rahul. From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sun Aug 25 07:22:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:22:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200208260022.18343.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 9:48 pm, Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, > ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be > appreciated. > Rahul. See http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html. It is at the top of the list, but Cygwin-XFree is developed in peoples spare time. Harold did offer to develop needed features in return for some renumeration. http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/msg00090.html I didn't respond to Harold's post at the time, as unfortunately I don't hold the purse strings where I work, but philosophically I am strongly in favour of people paying money to get features they want developed in Open-Source software. I have helped my workplace become a paying customer to two open-source products, Mitel's SME server and Astaro's Security Linux. If Harold had a pay pal account, I would happily contribute US$10, particularly if a number of other people did so too. Perhaps setting up some kind of pledge system. Something along the lines of: Task 1: Rootless mode ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Name | Amount Pledged | Contact | Rec'd | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Joe Blogs | $20 | joe.blogs@msn.com | Yes | | Mary Smith | $15 | ms@somedomain.com | | | etc.... Task 2: ...... Once the task is complete, someone follows up each pledge. I would suggest that that someone not be the developer(s). An automated system would be better. Anyone know of an existing system that could be coerced to do the task? Would RedHat be happy to host such a pledging system on their servers? I would be happy to host it on my sever. Note that it is only on an ADSL connection with a 64kbs uplink speed. However, it is up 24/7 and does have a fixed IP. The contact email address would need to be obscured from the spammers, or perhaps kept off public pages altogether. What do people think? Could it work? Is it already being done somewhere? I have just found some pages by Christopher Browne, called the "Free Software (Gift) Exchange Registry" (http://cbbrowne.com/info/fssp.html), but he just talks about a similar idea. There is no reference to someone actually putting his idea into practice. Christopher does raise the issue of gifts and tax, and his article is generally a good read. Rasjid. From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Aug 25 10:08:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:08:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window In-Reply-To: <200208260022.18343.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: Speaking of a PayPal account... I have one. I even set it up to accept credit card payments a few weeks ago, but I haven't yet put a link to it from my personal page. I think I now have some motivation to do so :) I'll will post once to the list to let people know that the link exists, and I'll make sure that there are links to my home page from the Cygwin/XFree86 page, but I won't put a PayPal link directly on the Cygwin/XFree86 page because I believe that would violate the spirit of the project. <--- That was just so that everyone knows that I will be ethical about this :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Rasjid Wilcox > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:22 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 > Subject: Re: displaying windows outside the main window > > > On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 9:48 pm, Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 wrote: > > Hi, > > Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, > > ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be > > appreciated. > > Rahul. > > See http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html. It is at the top > of the list, > but Cygwin-XFree is developed in peoples spare time. > > Harold did offer to develop needed features in return for some > renumeration. > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/msg00090.html > > I didn't respond to Harold's post at the time, as unfortunately I > don't hold > the purse strings where I work, but philosophically I am strongly > in favour > of people paying money to get features they want developed in Open-Source > software. I have helped my workplace become a paying customer to two > open-source products, Mitel's SME server and Astaro's Security Linux. > > If Harold had a pay pal account, I would happily contribute US$10, > particularly if a number of other people did so too. Perhaps > setting up some > kind of pledge system. Something along the lines of: > > Task 1: Rootless mode > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------- > |Name | Amount Pledged | Contact > | Rec'd | > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------- > | Joe Blogs | $20 | > joe.blogs@msn.com | Yes | > | Mary Smith | $15 | > ms@somedomain.com | | > | etc.... > > Task 2: ...... > > Once the task is complete, someone follows up each pledge. I > would suggest > that that someone not be the developer(s). An automated system would be > better. Anyone know of an existing system that could be coerced > to do the > task? > > Would RedHat be happy to host such a pledging system on their servers? I > would be happy to host it on my sever. Note that it is only on an ADSL > connection with a 64kbs uplink speed. However, it is up 24/7 and > does have a > fixed IP. > > The contact email address would need to be obscured from the spammers, or > perhaps kept off public pages altogether. > > What do people think? Could it work? Is it already being done somewhere? > > I have just found some pages by Christopher Browne, called the > "Free Software > (Gift) Exchange Registry" (http://cbbrowne.com/info/fssp.html), > but he just > talks about a similar idea. There is no reference to someone actually > putting his idea into practice. Christopher does raise the issue > of gifts > and tax, and his article is generally a good read. > > Rasjid. > From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Sun Aug 25 14:15:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <200208232148.g7NLm6P158390@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> References: <200208232148.g7NLm6P158390@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3d6c480d.488731809@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:48:05 -0400 (EDT), "Harold Leatherman Hunt II" wrote: >Well, I can't offer any help because I have no idea what you are doing. In >order for me to help, or for me to even investigate this problem any further, >you are going to have to follow, exactly, the instructions for compiling that >are in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide >(http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/). I have, except for the folders. I'm compiling into "obj-dbg" and "obj-rel" for debug and release versions respectively. Doesn't matter whether the build is (makeg.sh)debug or release: failures are at the same points. >You will then have to be very clear >about whether you are cross compiling or whether you are building on Cygwin, Building on Cygwin. NT Workstation SP6a RC1.28. CYGWIN="binmode ntsec codepage:oem" >and you will have to tell me the precise step in the Contributor's Guide >instructions that you start to have problems at. You will also have to send in >your World.log file (which will be generated if you follow the CG >instructions). Step 7. "make World" which for the most part works. It's simply a few ".exe" extensions getting added which are causing make's dependencies to fail. Typically foo.exe.exe but sometimes foo.exe.blah. As Alexander suggested, I performed (my first ever!) diff of my Imakefile alterations against CVS tonight. It ought to precisely identify the problem even if I've made a complete mess of doing them in the required format. >I simply cannot spend time debugging each developers command-sequence that they >use for building. You've got to stick to the prescribed sequence in order to >get help from me. Fair enough. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Sun Aug 25 14:15:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d6b43f4.487682330@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:58:33 +0200 (CEST), Alexander Gottwald wrote: >On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > >> >> I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post >> details? > >You could send a diff against current CVS Here goes... Index: xc/config/util/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/config/util/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.45 diff -r3.45 Imakefile 32,33c32,33 < PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ < ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) --- > PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > 83c83 < SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) --- > SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) 114c114 < AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) --- > AllTarget(rman) Index: xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.7 diff -r3.7 Imakefile 56c56 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(bitmap) ProgramTargetName(bmtoa) ProgramTargetName(atobm) --- > PROGRAMS = bitmap bmtoa atobm Index: xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -r1.12 Imakefile 19c19 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(proxymngr) --- > PROGRAMS = proxymngr Index: xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -r1.3 Imakefile 11c11 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xclipboard) ProgramTargetName(xcutsel) --- > PROGRAMS = xclipboard xcutsel Index: xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.47 diff -r3.47 Imakefile 206c206 < XDM_SHADOW = ProgramTargetName(xdm-shadow) --- > XDM_SHADOW = xdm-shadow 209c209 < CHOOSER = ProgramTargetName(chooser) --- > CHOOSER = chooser 211c211 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xdm) ProgramTargetName(xdmshell) ProgramTargetName(sessreg) $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) --- > PROGRAMS = xdm xdmshell sessreg $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) Index: xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -r1.4 Imakefile 15c15 < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xfindproxy) --- > PROGS1 = xfindproxy Index: xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.16 diff -r3.16 Imakefile 24c24 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xinit) --- > PROGRAMS = xinit Index: xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -r1.8 Imakefile 38c38 < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xsm) --- > PROGS1 = xsm ...it might even still cross-compile! ;-) >>Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a >> header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are >> sorted out. > >Please send the output from that error Cockpit error on this one (me using ccache): and no, I haven't been using it all the time. The main problem existed well before I thought about speeding things up with it. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From mikeiannone@yahoo.com Sun Aug 25 18:45:00 2002 From: mikeiannone@yahoo.com (mike iannone) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:45:00 -0000 Subject: Utilities Message-ID: <20020826014539.1197.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com> Where do I get utilities for CyGwin...like vi, sed, more etc. ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From rrschulz@cris.com Sun Aug 25 19:05:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:05:00 -0000 Subject: Utilities In-Reply-To: <20020826014539.1197.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020825185237.02094f88@pop3.cris.com> Mike, Everything is accessible in one place (via many mirrors, of course): The Setup.exe program can download and install everything you're looking for, including (optionally) source code. If you want to know which package contains which file, go to and enter a file name (it's a good idea to include the ".exe" suffix for short names like "vi"). By the way, Cygwin makes a symlink to vim.exe providing the alias "vi", but the program is vim.exe. If you look for "vi.exe" you'll get packages that include executables whose (base) names end with "dvi" (TeX related, of course). Randall Schulz At 18:45 2002-08-25, mike iannone wrote: >Where do I get utilities for CyGwin...like vi, sed, >more etc. ? > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com Randy From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Mon Aug 26 00:20:00 2002 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:20:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: Hello, I don't use xkb extension and after each logon to AIX system run xmodmap .xmodmap.cz on my remote machine, where .xmodmap.cz is my keyboard definition file.This needs to by run just once, not for each terminal. Pavel Stephane Poirey cc: Sent by: Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, cygwin-xfree-owner@ spanish [...] users cygwin.com 05.08.2002 19:25 Please respond to cygwin-xfree I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the did'nt give up) ? From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 26 01:25:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:25:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, > ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be > appreciated. No. There is no way to do this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 26 04:11:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 04:11:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6b43f4.487682330@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Guy, Okay, this looks reasonable. I will take a look at it and submit it when I get a chance. Classes start today, so it may be a few days. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Guy Harrison > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 5:13 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:58:33 +0200 (CEST), Alexander Gottwald > wrote: > > >On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > > > >> > >> I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post > >> details? > > > >You could send a diff against current CVS > > Here goes... > > Index: xc/config/util/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/config/util/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.45 > diff -r3.45 Imakefile > 32,33c32,33 > < PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ > < ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > --- > > PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > > > 83c83 > < SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) > --- > > SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) > 114c114 > < AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) > --- > > AllTarget(rman) > Index: xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.7 > diff -r3.7 Imakefile > 56c56 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(bitmap) ProgramTargetName(bmtoa) > ProgramTargetName(atobm) > --- > > PROGRAMS = bitmap bmtoa atobm > Index: xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.12 > diff -r1.12 Imakefile > 19c19 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(proxymngr) > --- > > PROGRAMS = proxymngr > Index: xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.3 > diff -r1.3 Imakefile > 11c11 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xclipboard) > ProgramTargetName(xcutsel) > --- > > PROGRAMS = xclipboard xcutsel > Index: xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.47 > diff -r3.47 Imakefile > 206c206 > < XDM_SHADOW = ProgramTargetName(xdm-shadow) > --- > > XDM_SHADOW = xdm-shadow > 209c209 > < CHOOSER = ProgramTargetName(chooser) > --- > > CHOOSER = chooser > 211c211 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xdm) ProgramTargetName(xdmshell) > ProgramTargetName(sessreg) $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) > --- > > PROGRAMS = xdm xdmshell sessreg $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) > Index: xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.4 > diff -r1.4 Imakefile > 15c15 > < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xfindproxy) > --- > > PROGS1 = xfindproxy > Index: xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.16 > diff -r3.16 Imakefile > 24c24 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xinit) > --- > > PROGRAMS = xinit > Index: xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > diff -r1.8 Imakefile > 38c38 > < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xsm) > --- > > PROGS1 = xsm > > ...it might even still cross-compile! ;-) > > >>Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a > >> header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are > >> sorted out. > > > >Please send the output from that error > > Cockpit error on this one (me using ccache): and no, I haven't been > using it all the time. The main problem existed well before I thought > about speeding things up with it. > > > -- > swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Mon Aug 26 07:01:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 07:01:00 -0000 Subject: Sorta OT - Imakefiles Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know how to "tell" an Imakefile to copy a shared-library and it's lib file to a user-specified location instead of the X directories? For example, I have the following Imakefile, and I'd like for the .DLL file to go to one directory, and its complimentary .LIB file to go to another directory; SRCS = ldlib.cpp OBJS = ldlib.o LIBNAME = ldlib CC = g++ -mno-cygwin SOREV = 1.0 INCLUDES = -I../../include DependTarget() SharedLibraryTarget($(LIBNAME),$(SOREV),$(OBJS),.,.) InstallSharedLibrary($(LIBNAME),$(SOREV),.) How do you get the InstallSharedLibrary target to copy the files to alternate destinations and not the default ones? From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Aug 27 01:39:00 2002 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:39:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731210915.R3921@cygbert.vinschen.de> References: <20020731172536.GA3120@redhat.com> <20020731175736.91097.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> <20020731210915.R3921@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <172-327782296.20020827103956@familiehaase.de> Corinna schrieb: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:57:36AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: >> --- Christopher Faylor wrote: >> > Well, AFAIK, YANAL and IANAL, so I don't know how you can make >> Can we please cut out the acronyms? We should be respectful of Ralf >> and others for whom English is a second[or third, etc.] language. > Why? I'm non-native, too, but actually I'm using acronyms as well. > *And* I have this one: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ Hmmm. I get: Sorry, YANAL was not found in the database. Gerrit -- =^..^= From tilps@hotmail.com Tue Aug 27 05:47:00 2002 From: tilps@hotmail.com (Gareth Pearce) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:47:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? Message-ID: >Corinna schrieb: > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:57:36AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > >> --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> > Well, AFAIK, YANAL and IANAL, so I don't know how you can make > > >> Can we please cut out the acronyms? We should be respectful of Ralf > >> and others for whom English is a second[or third, etc.] language. > > > Why? I'm non-native, too, but actually I'm using acronyms as well. > > > *And* I have this one: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ > >Hmmm. I get: > >Sorry, YANAL was not found in the database. woah, thats an old thread... I am guessing thats because YANAL isnt very common at all, but the author expected its meaning to be able to be derived from context. Noting similarities with IANAL, which is more common, Should be safe to guess that Y stands for a word of the same type as 'I' in the english language. Not a whole lot of Y words, 'You' being the solution. The first A thus changes from 'am' to 'are' to result in something which is more gramatically correct. Then again, I never seen it used before, so I could be wrong, but I suspect not. Gareth - ponders why he replied to this... *scratch* > > >Gerrit >-- >=^..^= _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Aug 27 08:05:00 2002 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27-304636394.20020827170542@familiehaase.de> Gareth schrieb: > woah, thats an old thread... Yep, I was on vacation:-) Thanks for the clarification (TFTC). Gerrit -- =^..^= From jbuehler@hekimian.com Tue Aug 27 10:01:00 2002 From: jbuehler@hekimian.com (Joe Buehler) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:01:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request Message-ID: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> I recently ported GNU emacs to Cygwin. It would help reduce the disk space requirements if some refinement was done on the xfree packaging. The particular thing that is immediately obvious is that the dll's that emacs requires are in the XFree86-bin package, along with a *lot* of other stuff that emacs does not require. A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 client needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. Joe Buehler From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 27 10:54:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:54:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Joe Buehler wrote: > A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 client > needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. You can strip fonts too. They are only needed for server. Anf most config files too. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 11:14:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:14:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20020827181456.54387.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> --- Guy Harrison wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:13:50 -0500, "Michael Harnois" > wrote: > > >Oooh. This is stranger than I thought. Some of those programs do > get built > >correctly, despite the log messages. For instance in config/util, > makestrs, > >revpath, and rman build ... but lndir doesn't. > > Probably because "gcc -o foo" yields foo.exe automatically but > unfortunately dependencies and so forth won't know that. Your > average > "configure & make" app can sometimes get away with it - only to > fail on > the install & uninstall (good indication of this problem existing > is > make invokes the linker even though the last make succeeded). Sadly > this > is my first forray into the world of Imake so take my advice for > this > particular problem with a strong pinch of salt. You'd think TOG would get a clue and switch to the autotools... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 12:18:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> Message-ID: <20020827191800.67757.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> --- Joe Buehler wrote: > I recently ported GNU emacs to Cygwin. It would help reduce the > disk space requirements if some refinement was done on the xfree > packaging. > > The particular thing that is immediately obvious is that the dll's > that > emacs requires are in the XFree86-bin package, along with a *lot* > of other stuff that emacs does not require. > > A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 > client > needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. Well tell your emacs people that they'll just have to download the same way we all do. If they want a pretty package, they can use Xemacs. Is the install really that big for emacs people? After all, if you want simplicity, use vi. It only requires terminfo, ash, and the cygwin.dll. The point is that this has been discussed to death and it was decided [not by me] that oficially nothing different will be done at this time. You are welcome to host your own web page with a custom install, though. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 12:37:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:37:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020827193731.31527.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz wrote: > > Hello, > > I don't use xkb extension and after each logon to AIX system run > > xmodmap .xmodmap.cz > > on my remote machine, where .xmodmap.cz is my keyboard definition > file.This > needs to by run just once, not for each terminal. > > Pavel > > > > > > > Stephane Poirey > > > cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > m> cc: > > > Sent by: Subject: Using > Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, > french, > cygwin-xfree-owner@ spanish [...] users > > > cygwin.com > > > > > > > > > 05.08.2002 19:25 > > > Please respond to > > > cygwin-xfree > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past > and there > is > probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, > but I > wanted > to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they > adopted (if > the > did'nt give up) ? Use English __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 27 13:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:58:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request References: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> Message-ID: <3D6BE7F4.90408@msu.edu> Joe, I agree, it would be nice if Cygwin/XFree86 packages were able to allow the user to pick-and-choose elements at a more fine-grained level. Let me explain why this has not yet been done. Our current method of creating Cygwin/XFree86 packages is to use the standard XFree86 packaging script (see the Contributor's Guide section on Pacakaging for more information) to build the standard set of XFree86 packages. These packages are all that the XFree86 project distributes and the list of packages for each platform, as well as what each package contains, are very nearly identical. If you look at the XFree86 ftp site you will notice that every distribution has essentially the same list of packages. To create the Cygwin/XFree86 packages we just feed the standard XFree86 packages into a shell script that unpacks one or two packages at a time, adds maybe a file or two, and repacks the files into a package with the same, or nearly identical, name as the standard XFree86 packages. This current method of creating packages does not require us to spend any time determining what files should go in which package, such as a GNU/Linux distribution might do with their own DEB or RPM packages for XFree86. All of these decisions are made for us by the standard XFree86 packaging script. Most proposed changes to the packaging of Cygwin/XFree86 would require a paradigm shift in the way that Cygwin/XFree86 is packaged. We would have to have someone put in an initial 40 hours into developing a distribution framework (making sure no files are left out and that the layout is logical) and we would then have to have a commitment from someone to spend about 20 hours verifying that our packaging is correct each time the XFree86 project makes a new release (once or twice a year). I cannot spend the time doing these additional tasks, and I have not received a promise to take on these tasks from anyone. Thus, the packaging system will remain largely unchanged for now. If anyone is considering taking on these tasks, note this: a promise to do good work is not so good as doing good work first (like designing, implementing, and testing a new package layout) and then offering that work for review. I tend to put a lot more trust in someone's promise when they have already done 20 to 40 hours of work. In other words, don't bother replying to say, ``hey, I can help with that.'' I have heard those sorts of promises all too often. Joe, in specific regards to your request: your change may not be that difficult, but I do not have time to look into it right now. Our DLL files are not a part of standard XFree86 distributions, so it may just be that they have slipped into the wrong package by accident. I would appreciate it if someone would look into whether or not there is a better package for these DLLs (choose from amoung the list of existing packages). It may be best to stick these in the lib package, which is quite small if I recall correctly, and add the lib package to the required packages in XFree86-base. I hope that clears things up. It isn't that our current package system is the best, it is just that it is the easiest to maintain. Harold Joe Buehler wrote: > I recently ported GNU emacs to Cygwin. It would help reduce the > disk space requirements if some refinement was done on the xfree > packaging. > > The particular thing that is immediately obvious is that the dll's that > emacs requires are in the XFree86-bin package, along with a *lot* > of other stuff that emacs does not require. > > A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 client > needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. > > Joe Buehler > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 00:22:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:22:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <20020827191800.67757.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Well tell your emacs people that they'll just have to download the > same way we all do. If they want a pretty package, they can use > Xemacs. Is the install really that big for emacs people? After all, > if you want simplicity, use vi. It only requires terminfo, ash, and > the cygwin.dll. The point is that this has been discussed to death > and it was decided [not by me] that oficially nothing different will > be done at this time. You are welcome to host your own web page with > a custom install, though. Thats not the point. I'd like to see the lib*.dll from XFree86-bin in XFree86-lib too. It's closer to the original packaging scheme from unix. Maybe we can mov the files on the next package release. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 00:28:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:28:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <3D6BE7F4.90408@msu.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Joe, > > I agree, it would be nice if Cygwin/XFree86 packages were able to allow > the user to pick-and-choose elements at a more fine-grained level. The current scheme is good, but has one bug. The shared libraries are not in lib, but in bin. I'll take a look at the scripts and build a patch which will add X11/lib and X11/bin/lib*dll to XFree86-lib and exclude X11/bin/lib*dll from XFree86-bin. Any new package will then have the dlls in XFree86-lib bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From h.nardmann@secunet.de Wed Aug 28 00:32:00 2002 From: h.nardmann@secunet.de (Heiko Nardmann) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:32:00 -0000 Subject: Q: indirect and from options? Message-ID: <200208280932.35385.h.nardmann@secunet.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I do not find the "indirect" and "from" options in the users guide documentation. Are they deprecated or just missing there? - -- Heiko Nardmann (Dipl.-Ing.), h.nardmann@secunet.de, Software Development secunet Security Networks AG - Sicherheit in Netzwerken (www.secunet.de), Weidenauer Str. 223-225, D-57076 Siegen Tel. : +49 271 48950-13, Fax : +49 271 48950-50 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj1sfJEACgkQpm53PRScYyjJwQCgkP92NvPn9pM93Rqns0NFcteW kYMAn0yjxJyMiyfvacGO/8LlJ/H0DLrS =kW5u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Aug 28 01:07:00 2002 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:07:00 -0000 Subject: Partial solution for nonUs keyboards with XDMCP to AIX, was: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: Eh, very funny :-I OK, I looked into that problem in last days and I believe I found partial solution. The problem is that AIX uses modifier Mod2 for AltGT (linux uses Mod3, I think - but not sure). So this works for my Czech keyboard: I changed following files: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us in section generic101 i removed following lines: modifier_map Mod2 { Num_Lock }; modifier_map Mod5 { Scroll_Lock }; the first disables NumLock ability to lock AltGr. The second was removed when during experiments - may be it's not necessary. /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/cz in section basic I changed modifier_map Mod2 { }; (I think originally it was Mod3) this enables AltGr to behave correctly. Then I generated new /tmp/cz.xkm file using xkbcomp and add it tu command line parameters. But I have still problems with NumLock and numeric keypad - during login, it doesn't work (behaves odd, but switchnig NumLock causes little changes), when logged on, it is hard locked to produce numbers. I tried to set NumLock to Mod5 (It looks to be correct for AIX), but it didn't work. One more thing - probably to Harold - Caps Locks works correctly, but doesn't change state of the Caps Lock LED. Is this because change of LED state is not implemented in Cygwin, or is it bug, or what? (Note I'm not requesting fix for that, I'm just curious :-) I don't really understand xkb principles, so I don't know if everything I wrote above is correct. But it works... If you have any comments or ideas of solutions, please send it. Pavel Nicholas Wourms To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent by: cc: cygwin-xfree-owner@ Subject: Re: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, cygwin.com spanish [...] users 27.08.2002 21:37 Please respond to cygwin-xfree > I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past > and there > is > probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, > but I > wanted > to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they > adopted (if > the > did'nt give up) ? Use English __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From gene.traxler@eds.com Wed Aug 28 11:18:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727430@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> I have been trying to use Cygwin/XFree86 to run HP Openview. I start XWin with the -query to log into the Solaris system that OV runs on and everything seems to run fine, better than with the release of Hummingbird's Exceed that I have. However, the right mouse button doesn't work in any OpenView window although it works on the rest of the CDE desktop. Searching on Google, I found an item labeled Pete's Notes that describes the same problem using XFree86 under Linux. This person was able to get the right button to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line from the InputDevice section of his XF86Config. The Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ says the it does not use XF86Config and the User's Guide does not list any parameter that I recognize as relating to this problem. I tried starting Cygwin/XFree86 with and without 3 button emulation but no right button either way. Is there an undocumented parameter or config file that will help with this or am I out of luck for now with XFree86? I looked through the files in /etc/X11 and didn't see anything that looked promising. Please reply to my email address (gene.traxler@eds.remove.this.com) as I am not subscribed to this list (lack of time, not lack of interest :-( ) From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 11:30:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview In-Reply-To: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727430@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > I have been trying to use Cygwin/XFree86 to run HP Openview. I start XWin > with the -query to log into the Solaris system that OV runs on and > everything seems to run fine, better than with the release of Hummingbird's > Exceed that I have. However, the right mouse button doesn't work in any > OpenView window although it works on the rest of the CDE desktop. Please try xev. What does xev report if you press the button? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From rpavan@triumf.ca Wed Aug 28 12:18:00 2002 From: rpavan@triumf.ca (Roberto Pavan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: fonts? Message-ID: <001301c24ec8$675a6bc0$2f645a8e@ipg05> Hello, I've had some trouble getting XFree86 4.2 to run on my cygwin installation. I installed the system on my Win2k machine using the latest setup.exe from cygwin.org. I'm getting a Cannot Open Display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 error when I try to run startxwin.sh A look at the logs shows me a series of errors like this one: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! I thought this might have been an issue regarding the text mode used during install as outlined in s. 6.6 of the FAQ, so I reinstalled the system using setup.exe. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be the case, as in fact, no fonts were installed. That is, the directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ doesn't exist. I haven't found anything in the FAQ regarding this. Can anyone help me to remedy the situation? -- Regards, Roberto Pavan, rpavan@triumf.ca Ph. (604) 222-1047 x6370 Fx. (604) 221-0436 http://www.triumf.ca/ From gene.traxler@eds.com Wed Aug 28 12:20:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727431@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Here are the two events from pressing the right mouse button. I assumed that you didn't want all of the motion and other events. ButtonPress event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973308, (27,95), root:(581,377), state 0x0, button 3, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973529, (27,95), root:(581,377), state 0x400, button 3, same_screen YES Thank you for your assistance. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:30 PM To: Traxler, Gene W Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Re: Config question/prob with HP Openview On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > I have been trying to use Cygwin/XFree86 to run HP Openview. I start XWin > with the -query to log into the Solaris system that OV runs on and > everything seems to run fine, better than with the release of Hummingbird's > Exceed that I have. However, the right mouse button doesn't work in any > OpenView window although it works on the rest of the CDE desktop. Please try xev. What does xev report if you press the button? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 12:32:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:32:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview In-Reply-To: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727431@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > Here are the two events from pressing the right mouse button. I assumed > that you didn't want all of the motion and other events. > > ButtonPress event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973308, (27,95), root:(581,377), > state 0x0, button 3, same_screen YES > > ButtonRelease event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973529, (27,95), root:(581,377), > state 0x400, button 3, same_screen YES As you can see the server sends the button press messages. So the programs an the remote machine must have some wierd config. Which programs do not react on the button press? Does xterm display a menu when holding CTRL and pressing the button? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From gene.traxler@eds.com Wed Aug 28 13:04:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727433@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> xterm displays a VT Fonts menu when I hold down CTRL and right click. So far, the only program that I am having trouble with is HP OpenView. The rest of the CDE 1.3 environment appears to work normally although I haven't tested a lot of other programs (Netscape, various CDE desktop functions, etc). I found a note where someone running XFree86 under Linux was able to get right-clicking in Openview to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line from his XF86Config InputDevice section but Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't use XF86Config. Is there something equivalent to the change under Linux that I can do in Cygwin/XFree86? Everything that I am trying to do works fine under Hummingbird's Exceed although the stuff that works seems to work better under Cygwin. I am using Exceed at present but want to change to Cygwin. There is nothing peculiar in the Exceed configuration that I have found. -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Gottwald > As you can see the server sends the button press messages. So the programs > an the remote machine must have some wierd config. > > Which programs do not react on the button press? Does xterm display > a menu when holding CTRL and pressing the button? From c_twiner@hotmail.com Wed Aug 28 13:53:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:53:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, I posted last week that I had a possible solution to the xwinclip selection behaviour. I didn't get any feedback so I endeavoured to do it anyway. So this ones a bit long but it's an explanation of how I've got it working .. Basic premise : Use a seperate dll that runs a system wide Windoze hook to catch all activate messages. 2 events are of interest in the hook, when Cygwin/XFree86 is activated and when it is deactivated. When an event is detected the hook then sends a broadcast registered message to all top level windows. The top level Windoze window for xwinclip is run in a seperate thread and as such always receives the messages. Upon receipt of the activation messages flags are set up that indicate that either xtowindows be called or windowstox. These functions copy the data in the respective directions. The flags have to be used so the main thread (the owner of pDisplay) is the one that calls the functions. They in turn either XSetSelectionOwner (windowstox) or they XConvertSelection (xtowindows) to set the messages running. Major changes are that the select in xwinclip.c has a time limit applied and that the XSetSelectionOwner in xevents.c and XSetSelectionOwner in xwinclip.c are removed. This means that all selection operations behave as expected in XWin with xwinclip running. However I have some limitations: closing xwinclip: closing XWin closes xwinclip but doesn't go through WM_DESTROY on the x window, just XIO: fatal IO error 113 (Connection aborted) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 48 requests (47 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I made a script to close xwinclip via sending an X message but it results in crashing XWin as well. the select statement timeout: In order to get the polling on the notification flags (from the windows thread) the timer is set to 1 sec (or some other time). Is there a way to make the flags act as file descriptors for the select statement? Any help on the problems would be appreciated. The code is still (cough cough) a little rough n ready so I will release it when appropriate. Is putting a zip attachment on this mailing list appropriate? I have only been working on this for 3 days and it's my first attempt at X antics so if these are FAQ style items I appologise (I've looked just can't find them). Regards, Chris Twiner _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From nahor@bravobrava.com Wed Aug 28 14:22:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:22:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: I think the goal in the not-too-far-away-future is to have xwinclip integrated directly inside the XWin app. This would save you the trouble to use SetWindowsHookEx, which IIRC is a big piece of crap. Also, this would save you the trouble of killing xwinclip while XWin is still running. Jehan Chris Twiner wrote: > Hi All, > > I posted last week that I had a possible solution to the xwinclip > selection behaviour. I didn't get any feedback so I endeavoured to do > it anyway. So this ones a bit long but it's an explanation of how I've > got it working .. > > Basic premise : > > Use a seperate dll that runs a system wide Windoze hook to catch all > activate messages. 2 events are of interest in the hook, when > Cygwin/XFree86 is activated and when it is deactivated. When an event > is detected the hook then sends a broadcast registered message to all > top level windows. > > The top level Windoze window for xwinclip is run in a seperate thread > and as such always receives the messages. Upon receipt of the > activation messages flags are set up that indicate that either > xtowindows be called or windowstox. These functions copy the data in > the respective directions. > > The flags have to be used so the main thread (the owner of pDisplay) is > the one that calls the functions. They in turn either > XSetSelectionOwner (windowstox) or they XConvertSelection (xtowindows) > to set the messages running. > > Major changes are that the select in xwinclip.c has a time limit applied > and that the XSetSelectionOwner in xevents.c and XSetSelectionOwner in > xwinclip.c are removed. > > This means that all selection operations behave as expected in XWin with > xwinclip running. > > However I have some limitations: > > closing xwinclip: > closing XWin closes xwinclip but doesn't go through WM_DESTROY on the > x window, just > XIO: fatal IO error 113 (Connection aborted) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" > after 48 requests (47 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > I made a script to close xwinclip via sending an X message but it > results in crashing XWin as well. > > the select statement timeout: > In order to get the polling on the notification flags (from the > windows thread) the timer is set to 1 sec (or some other time). Is > there a way to make the flags act as file descriptors for the select > statement? > > Any help on the problems would be appreciated. > > The code is still (cough cough) a little rough n ready so I will release > it when appropriate. Is putting a zip attachment on this mailing list > appropriate? > > I have only been working on this for 3 days and it's my first attempt at > X antics so if these are FAQ style items I appologise (I've looked just > can't find them). > > Regards, > > Chris Twiner > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > From c_twiner@hotmail.com Wed Aug 28 16:24:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:24:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >I think the goal in the not-too-far-away-future is to have xwinclip > >integrated directly inside the XWin app. This would save you the >trouble >to use SetWindowsHookEx, which IIRC is a big piece of crap. >Also, this >would save you the trouble of killing xwinclip while XWin >is still >running. I read that the plan was to integrate it on one of the posts (and the todo list) but the problem would still remain (keeping ownership). You're right though SetWindowsHookEx is awful. It's not too bad for a process only hook but a global is horrible. I think you're right though, wasting more time on the closing down bit would be foolish. When integrated only the setselectionowner's would need to be removed and the two event's code added. Much cleaner but would get rid of the ownership thing. Thanks for the feedback. Nobody replied to the other post so I wondered what interest level there was. Chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 29 02:31:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:31:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview In-Reply-To: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727433@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > xterm displays a VT Fonts menu when I hold down CTRL and right click. So > far, the only program that I am having trouble with is HP OpenView. The > rest of the CDE 1.3 environment appears to work normally although I haven't > tested a lot of other programs (Netscape, various CDE desktop functions, > etc). I found a note where someone running XFree86 under Linux was able to > get right-clicking in Openview to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line > from his XF86Config InputDevice section but Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't use > XF86Config. Is there something equivalent to the change under Linux that I > can do in Cygwin/XFree86? Hm. You could only try switching off the scrollwheel. But I don't remember if there was a switch or if there was just discussion about it. or you could try to use the scrollwheel to send a buttonpress for button5 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 29 05:16:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: <200208291216.g7TCGOM19884@pilot17.cl.msu.edu> Chris, Well, I am glad that someone is working on xwinclip other than me. However, I did not respond to the proposed solution because I was not entirely convinced that it was the best approach to take or even that a problem existed that needed to be solved. Of course, the best way to deal with me is to just program me into submission, which you are currently on your way to doing. If I have a patch sent in that is cleanly formatted and adds functionality without breaking any existing functionality nor does it add any significant new bugs, then I can do little else than accept and apply the patch. Do note that a patch that does not follow the naming conventions (e.g., g_foo for globals, pszString for char *'s, etc.) and formatting conventions (just look at a function definition and use emacs' indent option) will essentially get ignored. Or rather, I'll look at it, I'll start cleaning it up, I'll get pissed off that I am wasting my time doing something that could have been done right in the first place by someone else, and I'll throw the patch out and put less weight on the future contributions of such developers. So, please format your patch correctly :) In conclusion, I am just waiting for a patch that you want me to review. Don't rush, do it right, let me (the mailing list) know when you want a review. Of course, it does not hurt to keep us posted as to what you are doing and questions are fine as well. Harold Chris Twiner said: > Hi All, > > I posted last week that I had a possible solution to the xwinclip selection > behaviour. I didn't get any feedback so I endeavoured to do it anyway. So > this ones a bit long but it's an explanation of how I've got it working .. > > Basic premise : > > Use a seperate dll that runs a system wide Windoze hook to catch all > activate messages. 2 events are of interest in the hook, when > Cygwin/XFree86 is activated and when it is deactivated. When an event is > detected the hook then sends a broadcast registered message to all top level > windows. > > The top level Windoze window for xwinclip is run in a seperate thread and as > such always receives the messages. Upon receipt of the activation messages > flags are set up that indicate that either xtowindows be called or > windowstox. These functions copy the data in the respective directions. > > The flags have to be used so the main thread (the owner of pDisplay) is the > one that calls the functions. They in turn either XSetSelectionOwner > (windowstox) or they XConvertSelection (xtowindows) to set the messages > running. > > Major changes are that the select in xwinclip.c has a time limit applied and > that the XSetSelectionOwner in xevents.c and XSetSelectionOwner in > xwinclip.c are removed. > > This means that all selection operations behave as expected in XWin with > xwinclip running. > > However I have some limitations: > > closing xwinclip: > closing XWin closes xwinclip but doesn't go through WM_DESTROY on the x > window, just > XIO: fatal IO error 113 (Connection aborted) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" > after 48 requests (47 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > I made a script to close xwinclip via sending an X message but it results > in crashing XWin as well. > > the select statement timeout: > In order to get the polling on the notification flags (from the windows > thread) the timer is set to 1 sec (or some other time). Is there a way to > make the flags act as file descriptors for the select statement? > > Any help on the problems would be appreciated. > > The code is still (cough cough) a little rough n ready so I will release it > when appropriate. Is putting a zip attachment on this mailing list > appropriate? > > I have only been working on this for 3 days and it's my first attempt at X > antics so if these are FAQ style items I appologise (I've looked just can't > find them). > > Regards, > > Chris Twiner > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > From gene.traxler@eds.com Thu Aug 29 06:44:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:44:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727437@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> I don't have a scrollwheel, just a two-button mouse. I do need to have 3ButtonEmulation turned on to get middle button stuff to work but right-click doesn't work in OpenView whether 3ButtonEmulation is turned on or off. Something that I just tested is using the left-right button combination to emulate a middle button copy of highlighted text into an OpenView window text box. That does work, right-clicking by itself does not. -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:32 AM To: Traxler, Gene W Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: RE: Config question/prob with HP Openview On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > xterm displays a VT Fonts menu when I hold down CTRL and right click. So > far, the only program that I am having trouble with is HP OpenView. The > rest of the CDE 1.3 environment appears to work normally although I haven't > tested a lot of other programs (Netscape, various CDE desktop functions, > etc). I found a note where someone running XFree86 under Linux was able to > get right-clicking in Openview to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line > from his XF86Config InputDevice section but Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't use > XF86Config. Is there something equivalent to the change under Linux that I > can do in Cygwin/XFree86? Hm. You could only try switching off the scrollwheel. But I don't remember if there was a switch or if there was just discussion about it. or you could try to use the scrollwheel to send a buttonpress for button5 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From c_twiner@hotmail.com Thu Aug 29 11:00:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, Thanks for the response Harold. I revised the logic in the changes and managed to remove the threading and all that went with it. Guess what, the XWin crashes stopped on both expected exists of xwinclip (via the stopping tool I wrote) and via Ctrl-C/close command. The problem I am trying to solve is that of xwinclip "stealing" the selection ownership from x windows. My main motivation for this is NEdit, the block functions rely on the selection being present and unaltered. Basically all the changes are removal of xsetselectionowners throughout old winclip code and inserting one for primary when Cygwin/XFree86 regains focus. Then adding convertselections to force the insert into the windows clipboard. I've tested it out for XA_PRIMARY don't know any apps that use secondary but I've also tried on CLIPBOARD. It does something but I wouldn't say it works :-). I have attached a zip with the complete files in there, not just diffs etc in case the base version is different now. They xwinclip normal files and the xwinclip_hook file additions have been changed to agree with the sytle guidelines Harold pointed out. kill_xwinclip.c and kill_xwclip_hook.c haven't but there isn't much to them anyway, and I'd like to figure out a way to remove them anyway. I have left the original code in place but commented out where necessary also there are lots of printf's in place to help with debugging. There is shell script called build_dll_extras.SH that builds the dll and the two kill apps. Hope the format is ok. If not tell me and I'll send them back with whatever changes are necessary. Cygwin is a great tool, I want to contribute. Untested and definitely won't work is running more than one screen. The hook relies on the Cygwin/XFree86 window title, it will therefor not work with more than one screen. thanks in advance for the feedback (hopefully positive), Chris Twiner _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xwinclip_chris_twiner.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 18685 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 11:52:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Chris Twiner wrote: > I have attached a zip with the complete files in there, not just diffs > etc in case the base version is different now. They xwinclip normal > files and the xwinclip_hook file additions have been changed to agree > with the sytle guidelines Harold pointed out. > > kill_xwinclip.c and kill_xwclip_hook.c haven't but there isn't much to > them anyway, and I'd like to figure out a way to remove them anyway. [...] > Hope the format is ok. If not tell me and I'll send them back with > whatever changes are necessary. Cygwin is a great tool, I want to > contribute. There is some obvious cleaning to do here. First, is to use only tabs or only spaces (don't remember which one Harold uses). Having a mix of space and tabs is a big mess for people who don't use the same tab size (8 vs 4 vs 3 vs 2). Some files (windproc.c at least) has a huge number of spaces/tabs at then end of line (see KillXWinclip function ). Some files don't have indentation at all (kill_xwinclip.c) or barely (kill_xclip_hook.c). As you said, there isn't much to them anyway so it's not a huge task to clean them but that will still help others who would want to look at the code. Also, even if you want to get rid of them, you don't know how long they will stay. There was once a guy who said that storing the date with only 2 digits was be good enough, that by the time we would get to 2000, the software would have been replaced and corrected... you know the end of the story ;) I don't know how much of the problems are yours or from the original code (never looked at it) but it would be a good thing to have that cleaned in any case. > Untested and definitely won't work is running more than one screen. The > hook relies on the Cygwin/XFree86 window title, it will therefor not > work with more than one screen. What about trying to integrate xwinclip inside XWin? It would fix this problem since you don't have to create the Hook. You just have to add a call to the owner thingie in xwinwndproc.c file. It would also allow to get rid of the two files you want to remove ;). Last, it would reduce the size of the Cygwin/XFree to-do list (a killer feature for Harold ;)). Jehan From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Thu Aug 29 12:36:00 2002 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:36:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: "Traxler, Gene W" wrote in message news:<2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727437@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com>... > I don't have a scrollwheel, just a two-button mouse. I do need to have > 3ButtonEmulation turned on to get middle button stuff to work but > right-click doesn't work in OpenView whether 3ButtonEmulation is turned on > or off. Something that I just tested is using the left-right button > combination to emulate a middle button copy of highlighted text into an > OpenView window text box. That does work, right-clicking by itself does > not. Is this a numlock problem? Try doing the right-click with the numlock off. Cary Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com From tlo@aw.sgi.com Thu Aug 29 12:48:00 2002 From: tlo@aw.sgi.com (Terence Lo) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:48:00 -0000 Subject: xlib: extension "XInputExtension" missing on display Message-ID: <003d01c24f95$8df65e10$ca411dc6@ms.aliaswavefront.com> Hi there, I've recently setup cygwin/xfree86 on my win2k box. Everything appears to be working fine except when I try running an application which requires a new window from within my bash shell, I receive the following error: xlib: extension "XInputExtension" missing on display pc-tlo:0. How do I go about fixing this problem? Do I have to enable xinputextension in one of my config files? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, TL From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 29 13:07:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6b43f4.487682330@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: [big diff] > > ...it might even still cross-compile! ;-) It does. Good Work :) bye ago BTW: When you're creating diffs, please use the diff -u. -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From c_twiner@hotmail.com Thu Aug 29 13:08:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:08:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >There is some obvious cleaning to do here. First, is to use only tabs or >only spaces (don't remember which one Harold uses). Having a mix of space >and tabs is a big mess for people who don't use the same tab size (8 vs 4 >vs 3 vs 2). I'll figure which one's are used and change the stuff accordingly. I thought I had it set, but I didn't check it on another text editor or even cat. >Some files (windproc.c at least) has a huge number of spaces/tabs at then >end of line (see KillXWinclip function ). That's one thing I rarely check for, wouldn't take much either way. >Some files don't have indentation at all (kill_xwinclip.c) or barely >(kill_xclip_hook.c). As you said, there isn't much to them anyway so it's >not a huge task to clean them but that will still help others who would >want to look at the code. Also, even if you want to get rid of them, you >don't know how long they will stay. There was once a guy who said that >storing the date with only 2 digits was be good enough, that by the time we >would get to 2000, the software would have been replaced and corrected... >you know the end of the story ;) Good point, I'll clean them up either way then resubmit. I will have a look at integrating it to XWin anyway. It would be another interesting way to keep my mind active. >I don't know how much of the problems are yours or from the original code >(never looked at it) but it would be a good thing to have that cleaned in >any case. I saw different formating in the files but it could just be the way I've setup NEdit. Again I'll have a crack. >What about trying to integrate xwinclip inside XWin? It would fix this >problem since you don't have to create the Hook. You just have to add a >call to the owner thingie in xwinwndproc.c file. It would also allow to get >rid of the two files you want to remove ;). Last, it would reduce the size >of the Cygwin/XFree to-do list (a killer feature for Harold ;)). As I said I'd be up for that. Just of out interest did you try the changed version? I'm quite interested to know if it works properly on other machines. Thanks for the feedback. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 13:43:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Chris Twiner wrote: > Just of out interest did you try the > changed version? I'm quite interested to know if it works properly on > other machines. No I haven't. I rarely use XFree actually. I use it only when I have to update some packages on our Linux servers. But if I remember, I'll try to give it a quick try tonight. Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 29 13:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:51:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> Jehan, As far as integrating xwinclip into XWin.exe - Chris would be stuck by the same problem that I am: that the process hosting the xwinclip X client connection gets killed when X shuts down or resets and the client connection is still open. I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a definite signal that the X server is about to shutdown. There is a hook provided by most window managers to indicate that the display is closeing, but it has so far given mixed results. The last idea I saw was in the x2x (I think) source code, which interfaces with the raw Xlib, just like xwinclip. It looked like x2x was watching for a move message for the mouse to (0, 0) (or some other special point) and it took this as a signal to close the X client connection. I have yet to investigate whether watching for this certain mouse message provides the functionality that we need. Harold Jehan wrote: > Chris Twiner wrote: > >> I have attached a zip with the complete files in there, not just diffs >> etc in case the base version is different now. They xwinclip normal >> files and the xwinclip_hook file additions have been changed to agree >> with the sytle guidelines Harold pointed out. >> >> kill_xwinclip.c and kill_xwclip_hook.c haven't but there isn't much to >> them anyway, and I'd like to figure out a way to remove them anyway. > > [...] > >> Hope the format is ok. If not tell me and I'll send them back with >> whatever changes are necessary. Cygwin is a great tool, I want to >> contribute. > > > There is some obvious cleaning to do here. First, is to use only tabs or > only spaces (don't remember which one Harold uses). Having a mix of > space and tabs is a big mess for people who don't use the same tab size > (8 vs 4 vs 3 vs 2). > > Some files (windproc.c at least) has a huge number of spaces/tabs at > then end of line (see KillXWinclip function ). > > Some files don't have indentation at all (kill_xwinclip.c) or barely > (kill_xclip_hook.c). As you said, there isn't much to them anyway so > it's not a huge task to clean them but that will still help others who > would want to look at the code. Also, even if you want to get rid of > them, you don't know how long they will stay. There was once a guy who > said that storing the date with only 2 digits was be good enough, that > by the time we would get to 2000, the software would have been replaced > and corrected... you know the end of the story ;) > > I don't know how much of the problems are yours or from the original > code (never looked at it) but it would be a good thing to have that > cleaned in any case. > > >> Untested and definitely won't work is running more than one screen. >> The hook relies on the Cygwin/XFree86 window title, it will therefor >> not work with more than one screen. > > > What about trying to integrate xwinclip inside XWin? It would fix this > problem since you don't have to create the Hook. You just have to add a > call to the owner thingie in xwinwndproc.c file. It would also allow to > get rid of the two files you want to remove ;). Last, it would reduce > the size of the Cygwin/XFree to-do list (a killer feature for Harold ;)). > > Jehan > > > From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 14:59:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:59:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> Message-ID: Again, I don't know much about X so I'm going to talk blind here.... Harold L Hunt II wrote: > As far as integrating xwinclip into XWin.exe - Chris would be stuck by > the same problem that I am: that the process hosting the xwinclip X > client connection gets killed when X shuts down or resets and the client > connection is still open. > > I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a definite > signal that the X server is about to shutdown. ... XWin is the X server so if xwinclip is part of XWin, then it knows that the server is shuting down/reseting because XWin is shuting down/reseting, doesn't it? Also, I thought that the use of select() in test04 was to avoid problem with disconnection. test05 changelog says that there is still a problem with GiveUp. But I guess that GiveUp ends up calling ddxGiveUp. Maybe this ddxGiveUp could be useful (like to close the X client connection if it's not too late to do it) Also (it's probably more work but...) the X server is the one handling the clipboard, isn't it? So if xwinclip is integrated into the server, it should not need to be a X client anymore so no more problem with connections. Maybe Chris would be interested into looking into that (that would occupy his mind for quite a while a guess :)). Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 29 16:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:03:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:59 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: xwinclip re selection polling > > > Again, I don't know much about X so I'm going to talk blind here.... > That's okay, but a lot of these things require a strict reading of the specs in order to understand what is going on. > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > As far as integrating xwinclip into XWin.exe - Chris would be stuck by > > the same problem that I am: that the process hosting the xwinclip X > > client connection gets killed when X shuts down or resets and > the client > > connection is still open. > > > > I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a definite > > signal that the X server is about to shutdown. > > ... XWin is the X server so if xwinclip is part of XWin, then it knows > that the server is shuting down/reseting because XWin is shuting > down/reseting, doesn't it? > Ironically, no, there is no interface for the ddx (device-dependent X, which is stored in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin for Cygwin/XFree86) portion of the X Server to receive notification that it is about to be reset. GiveUp is only called during the shutdown process (not during resets) and I do not remember if it is called before or after all clients are killed. However, the shutdown process doesn't matter if we can't handle the reset process, so we will have to fix the reset process before we even worry about the shutdown process. > Also, I thought that the use of select() in test04 was to avoid problem > with disconnection. > test05 changelog says that there is still a problem with GiveUp. But I > guess that GiveUp ends up calling ddxGiveUp. Maybe this ddxGiveUp could > be useful (like to close the X client connection if it's not too late to > do it) > Well, yes, using select () was necessary to make sure that Windows messages don't build up in the queue and it was also necessary to allow us to experiment with several methods of trying to catch the server shutdown. However, I think I said something to the effect of ``hopefully this will allow us to catch a server shutdown...''. That is, I didn't currently have a solution. > Also (it's probably more work but...) the X server is the one handling > the clipboard, isn't it? So if xwinclip is integrated into the server, > it should not need to be a X client anymore so no more problem with > connections. Maybe Chris would be interested into looking into that > (that would occupy his mind for quite a while a guess :)). > The problem here is that the clipboard interface is actually a client-interface. I don't know that the server has anything at all to do with the clipboard. The fact that the clipboard interface is part of the ICCCM (Inter-Client Communications Conventions Manual, or something like that) seems to suggest that this is the case. So, in order to call these client functions you need a client connection, thus the problem with needing to know when the client disconnects. With all of that being said, it may turn out that the best way to solve this problem is just to throw a Cygwin-specific hook into the dix functions that handle a server shutdown or reset. This Cygwin-specific hook would just notify the clipboard client embedded in the server that the server is about to reset so the client connection should be closed. That may turn out to be the only way to handle this. Harold From c_twiner@hotmail.com Thu Aug 29 16:33:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:33:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, It's just going 01.29am here so I won't have a big look at it, but couldn't the windows hook be used for the same purpose i.e. track for the close message. I'll give it a go tomorrow. And yes Jehan, it's just what I need (although I'm about to get a few new hardware toys to play with as well, and who knows work may call me in). laters, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From jensen@physics.unr.edu Thu Aug 29 17:22:00 2002 From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:22:00 -0000 Subject: screen too big for display Message-ID: I just installed Cygwin/xfree with fvwm2 window manager, and the desktop comes up too large for the display. In other words, when I move the mouse down on my screen, the desktop scrolls, so a window at the top of my screen scrolls off my screen. How can I make the desktop fit my screen? I tried to change the XWin parameters, but to no effect. (This problem does not appear when I use twm). Thanks for any help, Lars. -- Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen Tel: 775.673.7113 FAX: 775.674.7592 From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 19:59:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:59:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Jehan wrote: > Chris Twiner wrote: > >> Just of out interest did you try the changed version? I'm quite >> interested to know if it works properly on other machines. > > > No I haven't. I rarely use XFree actually. I use it only when I have to > update some packages on our Linux servers. > But if I remember, I'll try to give it a quick try tonight. Chris, A really quick test worked on my machine (WinXP Dual-Athlon). Just a few glitches: - kill_xclip_hook.exe doesn't do anything for me. I have to use kill_xwinclip to really remove the hook, even if xwinclip is already dead. - We really need to find away to automatically remove the hook without having to use kill_xwinclip (or find a way to automatically call this app). It took me a few minutes to remember what you said in your previous mail and what I compiled before I thought about using this program. Could xwinclip do the same thing than kill_xwinclip before registring itself? - XWinclip doesn't copy what is already in the windows clipboard when it starts. - I don't know if it can be done but when XWin gets activated, the selection should not disappears if the Windows clipboard didn't change. I mean: if you select something in X, activate a Windows application, then activate XWin, the selection disappear, it shouldn't. That said, a thought came to me (yep, another wild guess :p). When I select something in X, I can paste it as many time I want without having the selection disappearing. Is it because when I "middle-click" X fake the paste by sending the keystrokes matching what is in the clipboard or is it because reading the content of the clipboard doesn't change the selection? IOW, am I correct to assume that the selection disappear when an application "take ownership" and that "taking ownership" mean that when a process ask for the clipboard content, we will be the one asked to send it? If my guess is correct, why not "take ownership" only if the Windows clipboard changed and differs from the current X clipboard?... Or was because xwinclip was losing the ownership that it knew that the selection changed? Last Chris, you may want to look at the WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD Windows event. Using this feature would allow to handle Windows applications that change the clipboard by themselves (ie without user intervention). I don't know any but I'm not omniscient. Jehan From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Fri Aug 30 02:24:00 2002 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 02:24:00 -0000 Subject: [gerardin@fr.ibm.com: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree)] Message-ID: <20020830112321.Z5475@cygbert.vinschen.de> Redirected to the appropriate mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Corinna ----- Forwarded message from Pierre Gerardin ----- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:58:19 GMT From: Pierre Gerardin Subject: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree) To: cygwin@cygwin.com Running cygwin Xfree86, I tried twm, fvwm2, mwm ... I am not able to get the French keyboard in an xterm... Only the US one. Any idea ? Thanks. I also have messages twm : invalid color name ... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From c_twiner@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 03:49:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:49:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >- kill_xclip_hook.exe doesn't do anything for me. I have to use >kill_xwinclip to really remove the hook, even if xwinclip is already dead. I saw that a few times as well. I'm wondering wether a new message needs to be sent through the hook to close it or something similar. I'll add the functionality into kill_xclip_hook, the two behaviours are different in that if xwinclip is running then just kill_xwinclip will do the job of both anyway. >- We really need to find away to automatically remove the hook without >having to use kill_xwinclip (or find a way to automatically call this app). >It took me a few minutes to remember what you said in your previous mail >and what I compiled before I thought about using this program. Could >xwinclip do the same thing than kill_xwinclip before registring itself? I've been trying to figure a way around this. It will always remove the hook if kill_xwinclip has been called, because this allows the program to exit gracefully. Ctrl-c or closing the window doesn't and the signals never seem to work. In essence the bit's that are important are a call to RemHook and to FreeLibrary from within xwinclip. When it recieves a WM_DESTROY (like kill_xwinclip sends) it cleans itself up, xconnection and all. I think until it's integrated within XWin (still think Harolds right about the closing of connection, I can test for the Cygwin/XFree86 window being closed, I can even stop it but I can't catch the xlib bombing out on a send/receive) it must have a windows window not a console to close properly. This would allow the proper trapping of the messages. It doesn't need to show anything in the window just to be a visible one. Of course it doesn't stop someone killing the process but it does at least make the close work. >- XWinclip doesn't copy what is already in the windows clipboard when it >starts. Good un. Although I'm not sure it's entirely wanted behaviour. What if you just start xwinclip between selection operations on the XWin x clients? Should it automatically clear them or is the reason you're starting xwinclip because you want to give them the windows clipboard. I think it's the latter, I'll put it in (means owning XA_PRIMARY when it starts up, no biggy). >- I don't know if it can be done but when XWin gets activated, the >selection should not disappears if the Windows clipboard didn't change. I >mean: if you select something in X, activate a Windows application, then >activate XWin, the selection disappear, it shouldn't. Agreed on reflection that makes sense shouldn't be tough to fix. See below re: WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD. >That said, a thought came to me (yep, another wild guess :p). When I select >something in X, I can paste it as many time I want without having the >selection disappearing. Is it because when I "middle-click" X fake the >paste by sending the keystrokes matching what is in the clipboard or is it >because reading the content of the clipboard doesn't change the selection? It's because clicking the middle button sends a xconvertselection that sends a SelectionRequest event to the owner. The owner of the selection sends the data back in a SelectionNotify event. (of course this is given that I read the specs properly, but it seems to be the truth from the debugging printfs). The original xwinclip always followed the reciept of the SelectionNotify event with an XSetSelectionOwner which forced the selection to be cleared (via a SelectionClear event). As such whilst you could still paste as many times as you wanted (as xwinclip now owned the selection and handled the requests) you couldn't use any functions that depended on the selection remaining with the original owner. >IOW, am I correct to assume that the selection disappear when an >application "take ownership" and that "taking ownership" mean that when a >process ask for the clipboard content, we will be the one asked to send it? >If my guess is correct, why not "take ownership" only if the Windows >clipboard changed and differs from the current X clipboard?... Or was >because xwinclip was losing the ownership that it knew that the selection >changed? The Or is the right one. It knew because it received the SelectionClear event. I agree though it's really only necessary to take ownership when the windows clipboard is different. >Last Chris, you may want to look at the WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD Windows event. >Using this feature would allow to handle Windows applications that change >the clipboard by themselves (ie without user intervention). I don't know >any but I'm not omniscient. It seems perfect for the job. Saves trying to evaluate the contents of the clipboard between the two (really convoluted as it's asynchronous you'd have to write a mini event loop). I'll put that in as well, it'd make things that much smoother. Thanks for the feedback some gems esp the WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD. I didn't know that existed, not even a couple of years ago when Win32 API was my bible. Guess I never played with the clipboard enough :-). Hopefully I'm making up for it now! cheers, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From nahor@bravobrava.com Fri Aug 30 08:44:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:44:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Chris Twiner wrote: > I think until it's integrated within XWin (still think Harolds right > about the closing of connection, I can test for the Cygwin/XFree86 > window being closed, I can even stop it but I can't catch the xlib > bombing out on a send/receive) it must have a windows window not a > console to close properly. This would allow the proper trapping of the > messages. It doesn't need to show anything in the window just to be a > visible one. Of course it doesn't stop someone killing the process but > it does at least make the close work. Wouldn't a window with a "shape window" (ala xeyes), where the shape leaves nothing visible, work? Or a window that always stay out of the screen boundaries. Maybe having a window visible isn't a bad idea. This give the choice to the user to kill xwinclip if it doesn't want to share the clipboards anymore. The window could also always stay minimized. Or xwinclip could become some sort of extended xclipboard. Storing multiple X and Windows content. > Good un. Although I'm not sure it's entirely wanted behaviour. What if > you just start xwinclip between selection operations on the XWin x > clients? Should it automatically clear them or is the reason you're > starting xwinclip because you want to give them the windows clipboard. > I think it's the latter, I'll put it in (means owning XA_PRIMARY when it > starts up, no biggy). I guess that usually, xwinclip is started in the same script than XWin. But in any case, the best solution may then be to check if one of the clipboard is empty (either Windows or X) and copy the content of the other. If both are full we have to make an arbitrary choice. Feeble excuses are: - when we start xwinclip and X alreay has a selection, it's likely that XWin is active. As such, it's easier to reselect what is in X if necessary than having to switch to a Windows application (in favor of using the Windows clipboard). - The selection in Windows in permanent while in X it isn't. So it would be easier to recover the Windows clipboard than the X one (just need to copy what is already selected, while in X, we would need to reselect it first) (in favor of using X content). - AFAIK, there is no "cut" operation in X, only paste while in Windows, we have a "cut". So if the content of the Windows clipboard has been cut, there is no way to recover it once lost (except if the application has an "undo" feature). (in favor of Windows). - I threw a coin and it said to use Windows (in favor of Windows). - I threw a another coin and it said to use X (in favor of X). Ok, that's all I can think of for now. The choice is yours :) Jehan From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Fri Aug 30 10:44:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:44:00 -0000 Subject: [gerardin@fr.ibm.com: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree)] In-Reply-To: <20020830112321.Z5475@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <20020830174458.3381.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Did you try setxkbmap fr ? > ----- Forwarded message from Pierre Gerardin > ----- > > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:58:19 GMT > From: Pierre Gerardin > Subject: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree) > To: cygwin@cygwin.com > > Running cygwin Xfree86, I tried twm, fvwm2, mwm ... I am not able to > get the French keyboard in an xterm... > Only the US one. Any idea ? Thanks. > I also have messages twm : invalid color name ... > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin > to > Cygwin Developer > mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com > Red Hat, Inc. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From geek@burri.to Fri Aug 30 11:36:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:36:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling In-Reply-To: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> References: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> Message-ID: <2623.128.2.78.228.1030732576.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt II said: > I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a > definite signal that the X server is about to shutdown. There is a > hook provided by most window managers to indicate that the display > is closeing, but it has so far given mixed results. The last idea > I saw was in the x2x (I think) source code, which interfaces with > the raw Xlib, just like xwinclip. It looked like x2x was watching > for a move message for the mouse to (0, 0) (or some other special > point) and it took this as a signal to close the X client > connection. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the case that you merely need to be able to gracefully handle the "X server is dead" case rather than knowing the X server is about to exit? If so, perhaps this (grotty kludge) is what you want. During initialization, after the initial connection to the X server is made (using the appropriate X library funtions), MANUALLY create another connection to the X server (e.g. open a socket and send some messages). Then, before any X operations, try accessing the manual socket to make sure X is still up (e.g. ping the server). If the ping fails, then you can un-hook your event gracefully. Yes, there's still a window where you ping, the server goes down, and then you try your operation, but I doubt you really want to do it all by hand. The ping will be painful enough. This idea has come to me through the python-xlib project, which basically implements libX11 in pure python code (except for the socket layer, of course). My understanding is that the fundamental problem is that the X11 functions generally force an application exit when they fail to do server absence. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Aug 30 11:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:55:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> <2623.128.2.78.228.1030732576.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Message-ID: <3D6FBFB9.4040107@msu.edu> Brian, I can't tell if you have enough of an understanding of X11 to write a proposed solution that actually makes sense. At least, I can't make any sense out of your proposal. The problem is that we have to wait for events by calling select (). Normally, select () returns when the other end of the connection is closed and it sets a flag to indicate that the other end of the connection has closed. In X11, however, when the server is about to reset or shutdown it loops through the list of all connected clients and, instead of closing their connections, it simply ``kill''s them without warning. Yes, X11 is beautifully engineered. :) Trust me, I have read the source code and searched all over the web for a solution to this. This is a well-recognized short coming of the X11 protocol. However, there has to be some workaround because applications written using Xt do not get explicitly killed when the server shuts down. Thus, there has to be some sort of signal that indicates that the server is about to shutdown and that we should not call select () again. In one of my last few posts I mentioned that there appears to be some convention that the mouse coordinates move to a certain location on the root window just before the server shuts down. This mouse message is sent to all clients and we can use this mouse message as a signal to not call select () again. However, I do not know the details of this mouse message, nor do I even know for sure if it exists. This is merely an impression that I got from looking at the source code to another program that does not get killed when the X server shuts down. It is one thing to chat about this... it is quite another to look at the X Server and Xlib source code and try to come up with a solution that works. Harold Brian Gallew wrote: >Harold L Hunt II said: > > >>I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a >>definite signal that the X server is about to shutdown. There is a >>hook provided by most window managers to indicate that the display >>is closeing, but it has so far given mixed results. The last idea >>I saw was in the x2x (I think) source code, which interfaces with >>the raw Xlib, just like xwinclip. It looked like x2x was watching >>for a move message for the mouse to (0, 0) (or some other special >>point) and it took this as a signal to close the X client >>connection. >> >> > >Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the case that you merely >need to be able to gracefully handle the "X server is dead" case >rather than knowing the X server is about to exit? > >If so, perhaps this (grotty kludge) is what you want. During >initialization, after the initial connection to the X server is made >(using the appropriate X library funtions), MANUALLY create another >connection to the X server (e.g. open a socket and send some >messages). Then, before any X operations, try accessing the manual >socket to make sure X is still up (e.g. ping the server). If the ping >fails, then you can un-hook your event gracefully. Yes, there's still >a window where you ping, the server goes down, and then you try your >operation, but I doubt you really want to do it all by hand. The ping >will be painful enough. > >This idea has come to me through the python-xlib project, which >basically implements libX11 in pure python code (except for the socket >layer, of course). My understanding is that the fundamental problem >is that the X11 functions generally force an application exit when >they fail to do server absence. > > > > From meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com Fri Aug 30 12:26:00 2002 From: meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com (Meredith Finkelstein) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: <20020830194141.M7657@www.honeybeerobotics.com> Hi I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to solve my problem, which is: I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried both cygwin shell and cmd) then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has X11Forwarding turned on when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, xwindows. and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages Any suggestions? Thanks, Meredith -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 13:07:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote machine after running ssh? It should have a value of ":10.0", or something similar. If it's empty, or the value looks like ":0.0", "From: "Meredith Finkelstein" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: "cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com" >Subject: X windows display problem >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 > >Hi >I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to >solve my problem, which is: > >I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried >both cygwin shell and cmd) >then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host >computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has >X11Forwarding turned on > >when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: > >xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > >this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, >xwindows. >and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages > >Any suggestions? >Thanks, >Meredith > > > > >-- >Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 13:17:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:17:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: I guess I should have read your message a little more carefully before replying. You said that sshd has been configure with X11Forwarding turned on. Give the following a try: 1) On the local system, before running ssh, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value of ":0.0" or something similar. If it doesn't, manually set it to the correct value. Verify its value by running a simple xclient like xeyes. 2) Run your ssh -X command. 3) On the remote system, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value of ":10.0" or something similar. If it doesn't have the right value, try setting it manually. If that doesn't work, then I'm stumped. >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com >Subject: Re: X windows display problem >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:07:13 -0400 > >What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote machine >after running ssh? > >It should have a value of ":10.0", or something similar. > >If it's empty, or the value looks like ":0.0", >"forwarding. > >Note that the ssh daemon on the remote machine has to be explicitly told to >enable X forwarding. This might be to blame. > >I've also seen the existance of the .Xauthority file in the home directory >on the local Cygwin host cause problems. > >>From: "Meredith Finkelstein" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: "cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com" >>Subject: X windows display problem >>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 >> >>Hi >>I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to >>solve my problem, which is: >> >>I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried >>both cygwin shell and cmd) >>then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host >>computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has >>X11Forwarding turned on >> >>when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: >> >>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: >> >>this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, >>xwindows. >>and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages >> >>Any suggestions? >>Thanks, >>Meredith >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 13:20:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:20:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: Doh. One more thing. Be sure to run the ssh command from an xterm within XWin. If you're running ssh from the same Cygwin prompt from which you issued startxwin.sh, then that is very likely the source of your problem. >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com >Subject: Re: X windows display problem >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:17:29 -0400 > >I guess I should have read your message a little more carefully before >replying. You said that sshd has been configure with X11Forwarding turned >on. > >Give the following a try: > >1) On the local system, before running ssh, echo the value of DISPLAY. It >should have a value of ":0.0" or something similar. If it >doesn't, manually set it to the correct value. Verify its value by running >a simple xclient like xeyes. >2) Run your ssh -X command. >3) On the remote system, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value >of ":10.0" or something similar. If it doesn't have the >right value, try setting it manually. If that doesn't work, then I'm >stumped. > >>From: "Thomas Chadwick" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com >>Subject: Re: X windows display problem >>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:07:13 -0400 >> >>What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote >>machine after running ssh? >> >>It should have a value of ":10.0", or something similar. >> >>If it's empty, or the value looks like ":0.0", >>">forwarding. >> >>Note that the ssh daemon on the remote machine has to be explicitly told >>to enable X forwarding. This might be to blame. >> >>I've also seen the existance of the .Xauthority file in the home directory >>on the local Cygwin host cause problems. >> >>>From: "Meredith Finkelstein" >>>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>>To: "cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com" >>>Subject: X windows display problem >>>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 >>> >>>Hi >>>I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems >>>to >>>solve my problem, which is: >>> >>>I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have >>>tried >>>both cygwin shell and cmd) >>>then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host >>>computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has >>>X11Forwarding turned on >>> >>>when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: >>> >>>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: >>> >>>this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, >>>xwindows. >>>and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages >>> >>>Any suggestions? >>>Thanks, >>>Meredith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From c_twiner@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 18:18:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:18:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >I can't tell if you have enough of an understanding of X11 to write a proposed solution that actually makes sense. At least, I can't make any sense out of your proposal. I understand what he's saying but XLib seems quite against the idea : XSetIOErrorHandler is the first thing and the last thing that happens. Automagically unfortunately so it "can't" be recovered from. What I'm confused about is what does this matter? For me it's a great place to close the hook (stops the hook from not working the next time xwinclip is started). In fact the only thing for me now is to try and get a proper close notification when xwinclip is closed by the user. Ctrl-c doesn't cut it. As an aside it comes back to the Windoze window being visible again (could put a button on it to disable xwinclip's activities, god knows why you'd want to though - as appose to just killing it then resarting it?-). Do you want this information because having a client that is within the x server could cause a big problem when the server disconnects? Personally I think we'd be better off keeping it out of XWin anyway, possibly have it start it but it really is a seperate tool KISS and all that. Why do we need to know when the server is about to close? Chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From c_twiner@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 18:30:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:30:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Harold, As an aside this link explains that the only way is to longjmp/setjmp. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/Xt-FAQ/section-19.html If the intention is to fully integrate xwinclip into XWin then this would be unwanted to say the least. Given XWin would close anyway you'd still want xwinclip to close with it. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Aug 30 22:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:22:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: <3D705278.6040306@msu.edu> Chris, Excellent detective work. It looks like longjmp setjmp is the way to go. I will give it a try someday, unless you want to do it first. The reason that catching a server reset is so important is that we should not be killed when the server resets and we should try to connect to the server again if it resets. Part of this makes it easy to stay connected when a user is using XDMCP to connect to a remote machine. Also, we can never integrate clipboard support into XWin.exe until we can be assured that the server will not be killed when it resets. Later, Harold Chris Twiner wrote: > Harold, > > As an aside this link explains that the only way is to longjmp/setjmp. > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/Xt-FAQ/section-19.html > > If the intention is to fully integrate xwinclip into XWin then this > would be unwanted to say the least. Given XWin would close anyway > you'd still want xwinclip to close with it. > > Chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > From c_twiner@hotmail.com Sat Aug 31 05:17:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 05:17:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Harold, >Excellent detective work. It looks like longjmp setjmp is the way to go. I will give it a try someday, unless you want to do it first. Thanks, I'll give it a bash. Best place is right at the beginning I think, all the resources will be useless anyway, as they are tied to the old display connection. I've not used setjmp and longjmp before (c++ guy, love those exceptions) so it will be a good thing anyway for me to do them (at least for me:-). >The reason that catching a server reset is so important is that we should not be killed when the server resets and we should try to connect to the server again if it resets. Part of this makes it easy to stay connected when a user is using XDMCP to connect to a remote machine. Also, we can never integrate clipboard support into XWin.exe until we can be assured that the server will not be killed when it resets. That's what I thought the reason was, I'm still not sure that integrating makes that much sense, the jmp solution would seem to solve that but the problem with it is it rewinds the stack right back to the setjmp, that means that whatever else that process has been doing it's screwed. Hence it would have to be forked or spawned anyway. I'll get it restarting anyway, shouldn't take too long. Laters, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From c_twiner@hotmail.com Sat Aug 31 06:01:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 06:01:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, Ok, Harold the jmp is in place (i'm closing the hook and freeing the library first of course) and it works. I needed to change the dll though as it was still using the old HWND for the old cygwin/XFree86 window. If a restart is done off the server menu nothing different seems to happen. It all seems to work fine. Close XWin and it restarts xwinclip (after the freeing of resources), then restart XWin and it reconnects (if it's not out of retries) then all is well in the world. Laters and have a good weekend, Mine is full of a street party outside my door, thankfully they stop playing music at 2am. Chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From davidf@sjsoft.com Sat Aug 31 09:55:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: Using KDE as default desktop under Windows Message-ID: <3D70F4E8.6060505@sjsoft.com> Hi there I posted this to the kde-cygwin mailing list and someone suggested reposting it here. Basically an explanation of my kde setup under Windows... I am now using KDE as my default shell under Windows. Thanks to everyone for the effort - it's so much nicer than explorer :-) I thought it would be nice to have a page on the web site explaining how to do it, and indicating status as more integration gets done... basically this is what I did (this is for Windows 2000 but should be portable to others): make XFree86 server run full screen without window decoration change ~/.xserverrc to include -fullscreen in the parameters: exec X - screen 0 1024 879 -engine 4 -fullscreen -depth 32 -ac -nowinkill -noreset -emulate3buttons 100 you can say -nodecoration (which -fullscreen implies) instead if you want a non-fullscreen window without border etc. replace the default shell, explorer.exe with X-windows change the following reg entry under from explorer.exe to c:\cygwin\bin\bash --login -c startx HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell Once this is done, logging in starts up the X server but no Windows desktop, Start bar etc. Note: if you want to run windows programs from here, on Windows 2000 you can press Ctrl-Shift-Esc which brings up the Task Manager, then go File/Run. Logging out from KDE doesn't actually log out, you need to close KDE in another way and then press Ctrl-Alt-Del and choose logout. Depending on your .xserverrc parameters, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or Alt-F4 can be made to close the X server. Otherwise, you can close it from the Task manager (select the Cygwin task and say End Task). This also brings up a bash shell window which is behind the X server. I tried to get rid of it by running cmd /c start /b bash ... but this was unsuccessfull. If you switch to any windows applications, the X server will be minimised. I seem to remember some discussion on slashdot or somewhere about how Cygwin XFree86 cannot run in rootless mode (as the actual background window like Windows exlporer does for the desktop). Does anyone have any info on why this is, or on how we could patch it so that it will? That way windows apps will run in front... Next step: get KDE to run windows applications from short cuts. I created a simple script called "win32start": #!/bin/bash startpath="$*" if [[ -L "$startpath" ]] then # this is a symbolic link. find the actual file, start that startpath=`find "$startpath" -printf %l` fi startdir=`dirname "$startpath"` startfile=`basename "$startpath"` cd "$startdir" cmd /c start \"starting application\" "$startfile" This is put in /usr/bin It handles cygwin unix-style symbolic links to Windows shortcut files as well (both are given the extension .lnk, but have different stuff inside ... if you create a link to a shortcut it is thus called .lnk.lnk). Basically it gets whatever parameters are given (it needs to use them all so you can pass spaces without it separating them out; escaping the spaces with backslash confuses cmd, although they could be unescaped) and works out what directory the file to start is in. It's easiest to get into this directory as we then don't have to convert the path from unix to windows style. Then it runs cmd and tells it to start the application. The first parameter to start is the window title which has to be given if we quote the start file. But this window title only applies to cmd, which just starts the application and quits. Example: $ win32start /c/Documents\ And Settings/All\ Users/Start\ Menu/Programs/Acrobat\ Reader\ 5.0.lnk on my system this starts up Acrobat. Now we want to make KDE associate these files with win32start so we can click on them from konqueror and put them in menus. First we need a mime type for the Windows shortcut files... Add the following to a new file ~/.kde2/share/mimelnk/application/win32shortcut.desktop (on most systems, it could be ~/.kde/... - I've had KDE 1 installed ...) This users the link icon which just looks like a shortcut. It would be nice to get KDE to read the windows Icon out of the shortcut file but probably lots of work [Desktop Entry] Comment=Win32 shortcut file Hidden=false Icon=link MimeType=application/win32shortcut Patterns=*.lnk Type=MimeType Then create the association. To do this, create a desktop file under ~/.kde2/share/applnk/win32start.desktop and place the following into it: [Desktop Entry] Comment=Start Win32 applications or files Exec=win32start Icon=exec InitialPreference=3 MimeType=Application;application/win32shortcut Name=Win32 Starter Path= ServiceTypes= Terminal=false TerminalOptions= Type=Application X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false X-KDE-Username= This can also be done through control panel if you want to make life easier ... but on my system it gave some trouble ... Now you should be able to for example browse to your Start Menu on your windows drive and start programs. I then added a nice second start menu to kicker by using a QuickBrowser linked to my Windows Start Menu folder ... (actually I now have a subdirectory of ~ called Start which contains links to everything in the All Users Start Menu and my user's Start Menu .... with a simple shell script to update the links) I've created a nice icon for this as well, with a "exec" icon background with the four coloured windows from the Linux samba icon on top. It sits next to the K menu icon, so I can launch either KDE or standard windows apps. Any feedback/comments? Is this what other people are using kde-cygwin to do? _______________________________________________ kde-cygwin mailing list kde-cygwin@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-cygwin From c_twiner@hotmail.com Sat Aug 31 20:28:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 20:28:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, I think I've just identified a bug with select on /dev/windows. According to the select code for the windows device it does a if (peekmessage()) then in xwinclip it does the flushwindows upon select returning. I've found a wierd circumstance were select returns but when the flushwindows function returns there is no message on the queue. As the select believes there is but windows doesn't it causes an infinite loop. Don't know how to reproduce yet but it has been after reconnecting (longjmp and setjmp) that I've noticed. I will investigate more later. I've got a log from the xwinclip output and I'll try to find a reproducable case. Has anyone noticed anything similar before with /dev/windows? Chris _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 00:23:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:23:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <3D483776.1000408@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020731222816.29271.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:57:36AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > >>--- Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> > >>>Well, AFAIK, YANAL and IANAL, so I don't know how you can make > >> > >>Can we please cut out the acronyms? We should be respectful of > Ralf > >>and others for whom English is a second[or third, etc.] language. > > > > > > Why? I'm non-native, too, but actually I'm using acronyms as > well. > > > > *And* I have this one: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ > > > > Corinna > > > > Now that you guys mentioned it... what the heck is ITP? Initial > Trials > Phase? > Intent To Package? Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 1 00:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:27:00 -0000 Subject: Double keystroke effects References: <87y9brsd49.fsf@blarg.net> Message-ID: <3D488EBC.2080507@msu.edu> Eric Hanchrow wrote: > I'm experiencing a problem similar to that described in > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-05/msg00278.html -- every > so often, Emacs "hears" a key twice, even though I only typed it once. > > In that message you say "I described this on the mailing list awhile > back. Look it up if you want more info". I do indeed want more info > but I don't know how to find it. Could you point me to the relevant > message? > > Thanks Eric, You have to send all Cygwin/XFree86 questions to the cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com mailing list (you don't have to subscribe, just be sure to tell us to cc you in replies). I found the message you were looking for by searching for "key release message" at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/. The result I was looking for was message 41... which was easy to find because the message you referred to above was written in May, while 90% of the messages before result 41 were from June. The actual message was from February, which made it stick out in the results list quite well. If you can't do that on your own, you need to learn. It is an essential life skill. http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html Harold From mario.ohnewald@gmx.de Thu Aug 1 00:40:00 2002 From: mario.ohnewald@gmx.de (Mario Ohnewald) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:40:00 -0000 Subject: newbie - export X(-Applications) from Linux Server In-Reply-To: <3D47FCC9.3000704@msu.edu> Message-ID: <000701c2392c$47a70e70$2b0aa8c0@local.aradex.com> Hello! > Mario, > > From what I know, doing this doesn't always work: > > install@MUNICH ~ > > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ./XWin.exe & > > [1] 108 > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > dex@192.168.10.123's password: > > Last login: Sat Jan 5 06:42:18 2002 > > Have a lot of fun... > > dex@linuxserver:~> xclock > > What you need to do instead is: > install@MUNICH ~ > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ./XWin.exe & > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ./xterm.exe & > I did that, and thats what i get: install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin $ ./xterm.exe ./xterm Xt error: Can't open display: ;/ here is the logfile: ------------------------- install@MUNICH /tmp $ cat XWin.log OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0 winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (EE) Unable to locate/open config file Error reading config file winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1152 h: 864 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 786 r 1146 l 0 b 786 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 2292 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 bpp 16 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" > Now, from the xterm in Cygwin/XFree86 (you are getting a > Cygwin/XFree86 > window, right? If not something else is broken and you need > to send in > /tmp/XWin.log) run the ssh command: > [xterm window] > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > Now you can run xclock and it should work. > > Harold > Cheers! Mario From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Aug 1 00:53:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 00:53:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731173039.GB3120@redhat.com> Message-ID: <003401c2392c$e4787900$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:51:08AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > >--- Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:14:50AM +0200, Ralf Habacker wrote: > >> >Any comments ? > >> > >> Are there any licensing issues with qt? Is the open source license > >> compliant > >> with cygwin's? > >> > >> http://cygwin.com/licensing.html > >> > > > >Ghostscript's license [The aladdin license (APFL?)] is much more > >restrictive than the QPL. > > If we are not in compliance with Ghostscript then that is a problem. It > is entirely separate from whether qt is compatible with the GPL + > Cygwin. If you were aware of issues with ghostcript you should have > raised them. > > >Besides when you compile QT, you'll get a screen which shows how the > >QPL is mutually inclusive of the GPL. > > So, if I show you a screen which says it's exclusive of the GPL, you'll > just give up? > > Since I don't accept the word of every person with a web site out there > who thinks they are compliant with the GPL, I don't see why I should accept > the words of a screen. Is there an independent corroboration of this > anywhere? > This may not be an independent corroboration for you, but what Nicholas means is the screen below, which is printed before configuring qt and it said that one can choose the license beetwen qpl or GPL. It tells its own tale. ~/src/cvs.kde-cygwin.sf.net/qt-2 $ cygwin/configure.cygwin This is the Qt Free Edition. You are licensed to use this software under the terms of either the Q Public License (QPL) or the GNU General Public License (GPL). Type 'Q' to view the Q Public License. Type 'G' to view the GNU General Public License. Type 'yes' to accept this license offer. Type 'no' to decline this license offer. Do you accept the terms of the license? Ralf From strube@physik3.gwdg.de Thu Aug 1 01:03:00 2002 From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 01:03:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles using XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1 Message-ID: <200208010740.JAA29580@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> Some months ago I built xfig with an easily self-compiled static libXaw3d.a. Now after installing XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1, I rebuilt xfig. This failed with a plenty of errors indicating multiple entry-point definitions (from Xaw3d and Xt) and auto-import errors (with respect to SME). The X libraries used were -lXpm -lXaw3d -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 . Tentatively I omitted -lXt, which did not work either, resulting in an excessive list of other auto-import errors. Similar errors were reported before under subject "Problems with libXaw3d [Was: [ITP] FreeCiv-1.12.0-1 for X" From strube@physik3.gwdg.de Thu Aug 1 03:10:00 2002 From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 03:10:00 -0000 Subject: lesstif confuses app-defaults Message-ID: <200208010753.JAA29584@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> After upgrading XFree86 and installing lesstif (so far, I had used my own lesstif), I found that the directory tree was confused: instead of a symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults -> /etc/X11/app-defaults, there was a directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults containing a symlink app-defaults and a file Mwm (the latter should rather have been in /etc/X11/app-defaults). Thus no application (except mwm) could find its app-defaults file. This is obviously a bug in the lesstif tar file. (I just found this effect has been reported before in 2002-05/msf00296.html but is still not fixed.) From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 1 03:37:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 03:37:00 -0000 Subject: Fw: Problem with Windows95 and XFree In-Reply-To: <20020731085242.3324.qmail@webmails.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, frederic bregier wrote: > Well, it seems that you'r right. > In the w95 box, I got the following : > OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B > Querying devices using ioctl > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > Querying devices using internal function > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 Hm, does not give me much information :( Can you please send me the windows registry keys HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Net open the registry editor, choose export from the file menu and enter the above strings in the field where the subtree is chosen. I also upload a slightly modified version of the ls_netdev program which prints at least some of the rgistry keys while traversing the tree. Can you please download and run it and send me the output again. > So it is the case you noticed. > With the other Windows box, I got the > real IP address with this command. Win95 uses some wierd hunt-through-registry to gather all information on the installed network interfaces. Microsoft has developed a library which simplifies this hunt. I guess it's in the winsock2 update. http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/contents/WUAdminTools/S_WUNetworkingTools/W95Sockets2/Default.asp > > Why does cygwin1.dll try to get the IP address > since I passed the -from option in the command > line of XWin. It should use this address > and ignore the cygwin1.dll request in this case, shouldn't it ? No. The from parameter is only needed to find the correct interface if more than one interface is found. The system call also gets some extra information as broadcast address and network mask. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 05:35:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:35:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles using XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1 In-Reply-To: <200208010740.JAA29580@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> Message-ID: <20020801101034.34429.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> --- Hans Werner Strube wrote: > Some months ago I built xfig with an easily self-compiled static > libXaw3d.a. > Now after installing XFree86-Xaw3d-1.5-1, I rebuilt xfig. This > failed > with a plenty of errors indicating multiple entry-point definitions > (from Xaw3d and Xt) and auto-import errors (with respect to SME). > The X > libraries used were -lXpm -lXaw3d -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 . > Tentatively I omitted -lXt, which did not work either, resulting in > an > excessive list of other auto-import errors. > Similar errors were reported before under subject > "Problems with libXaw3d [Was: [ITP] FreeCiv-1.12.0-1 for X" Try putting Xaw3d later in the link line, like: -lXpm -lXmu -lXt -lXaw3d -lXext -lX11 Admittedly, I'm having some trouble myself now. Its beginning to look like there was a reason Xaw was compiled statically. I'm trying to track down some of the people who intially worked on this project to ask why they compiled Xaw statically. However, it is interesting to note that there are no problems with compiling Xaw or Xaw3d as dll's on OS/2. I have a suspicion that some of the auto-imported data is being messed up. As I said to Lapo, I'm working on it. If worse comes to worse, I'll just re-release as a static library until I can figure out how to fix the dll. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 05:40:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:40:00 -0000 Subject: /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh vs. grep In-Reply-To: <20020731232510.A66175@king.cts.com> Message-ID: <20020801103751.36664.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> This is more appropriate for the Cygwin/XFree list. --- Keith Thompson wrote: > The script /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh includes the following line: > > eval "echo ${PATH} | grep -q ${X11PATH}" > > This is executed before $PATH has been set, resulting in an error > message: > > grep: Command not found. > > The fix is simple: change "grep" to "/bin/grep". > > (00xfree.sh uses "/bin/grep".) > > -- > Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst@cts.com > > San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> > > Schroedinger does Shakespeare: "To be *and* not to be" > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Aug 1 05:41:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:41:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731173039.GB3120@redhat.com> Message-ID: <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > Since I don't accept the word of every person with a web site out there > who thinks they are compliant with the GPL, I don't see why I should accept > the words of a screen. Is there an independent corroboration of this > anywhere? > See what trolltech says about this http://www.trolltech.com/developer/licensing/index.html "The Qt Free Edition (version 2.2 and later) is released under the Open Source license QPL, and GPL. The Qt Free Edition may be freely copied and distributed, put on ftp-sites and CD-ROMs etc. Qt Free Edition is provided with no warranty and no support." What do you wan't more ? Ralf From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 06:37:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 06:37:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020801124006.37665.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ralf Habacker wrote: > What do you wan't more ? The expression is: "What more do you want?" Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 06:38:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 06:38:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020801124006.37665.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020801124149.77302.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > --- Ralf Habacker wrote: > > What do you wan't more ? > > The expression is: > "What more do you want?" > > Cheers, > Nicholas Arrrggg! I forgot about the Reply-To munging! Sorry, this wasn't intended for the list. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 1 07:09:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 07:09:00 -0000 Subject: keys not mapping in application login prompt Message-ID: Hi, I have 2 boxes both running win2k and the same identical xfree 4.2.0 version running on them. The key mappings seem fine on both until I run an application which prompts for the username/password. On one machine, when I type in my username it prints odd characters, on the other machine the username prints out fine. Can anyone guide me on how to resolve this problem please? Many thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 1 08:01:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:01:00 -0000 Subject: newbie - export X(-Applications) from Linux Server In-Reply-To: <000701c2392c$47a70e70$2b0aa8c0@local.aradex.com> Message-ID: Mario, After launching XWin and before launching xterm, you need to: export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 This is why you should really be using startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, as outlined in the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mario Ohnewald > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:23 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: newbie - export X(-Applications) from Linux Server > > > Hello! > > Mario, > > > > From what I know, doing this doesn't always work: > > > install@MUNICH ~ > > > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > > $ ./XWin.exe & > > > [1] 108 > > > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > > dex@192.168.10.123's password: > > > Last login: Sat Jan 5 06:42:18 2002 > > > Have a lot of fun... > > > dex@linuxserver:~> xclock > > > > What you need to do instead is: > > install@MUNICH ~ > > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ./XWin.exe & > > > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ./xterm.exe & > > > > I did that, and thats what i get: > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > $ ./xterm.exe > ./xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > > ;/ > here is the logfile: > ------------------------- > install@MUNICH /tmp > $ cat XWin.log > OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > (EE) Unable to locate/open config file > Error reading config file > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f > InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 > winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per > pixel > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1152 h: 864 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 811 1152 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 786 r > 1146 l 0 b 786 > t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 2292 > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB > 6 d 16 bpp > 16 > winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit - returning > (EE) No primary keyboard configured > (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard > Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = > "(null)" Options = > "(null)" > > Now, from the xterm in Cygwin/XFree86 (you are getting a > > Cygwin/XFree86 > > window, right? If not something else is broken and you need > > to send in > > /tmp/XWin.log) run the ssh command: > > [xterm window] > > install@MUNICH /usr/X11R6/bin > > $ ssh -X dex@192.168.10.123 > > > > Now you can run xclock and it should work. > > > > Harold > > > > Cheers! > Mario > From gte120r@prism.gatech.edu Thu Aug 1 08:36:00 2002 From: gte120r@prism.gatech.edu (Curt) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard malfunctioning Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20020801100522.00abe0a0@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Hi, I am having problems with my keyboard working when using XFree86. Everything works fine until I run an X application on a remote system, namely xloadl. I get the application window, but I can't type in anything. The only keys that do anything on the keyboard are the spacebar, the Tab key, and the enter key. Is this a problem with my configuration, or with the server? Just as a background, I am new to UNIX and I work with Linux a little bit. Thanks, Curtis Neff Graduate Research Assistant Materials Science and Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology office (404) 385-0698 fax (404) 894-9140 From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Aug 1 08:36:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731175736.91097.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002601c2396c$505f76c0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > > Well, then, why all of the fuss in cygwin-patches where you were > > trying > > to modify windows headers? It doesn't seem like this is an > > entirely > > "unix" port: > > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-patches/2002-q3/msg00175.html > > > > So, while this may have been discussed before, I'm not sure we had > > all of the details then. > > Well actually, it would be totally Win32 header free, if it weren't > for the fact that Chris January added an original patch to better > display current drives in konqueror. As for the dns stuff, that was > already present in the Unix/X11 version, which is covered by the > QPL/GPL. I think it is necessary to say detailed, what the changes on the qt port are. The qt-2 port of the qt/x11 is based on the official qt/x11-2.3.1 release from trolltech. Qt manages the platform specific parts in os specific files like filenane_x11.ext or filename_win32.ext. In the qt/x11 release the _win32. files are not contained, although some win32 code (dns code for example) is still contained with the lack of an os detection code, for which I have added code, based on an msdn example. Chris January has written some native stuff for file open/reading, I have added some native stuff for a faster Qdir implementation using Find(First|Next)File(). Does anyone see a problem with this ? Ralf From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 1 10:10:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:10:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard malfunctioning Message-ID: I'll bet you have Caps Lock and/or Num Lock on. Turn them off and see if that makes a difference. I addressed this with a hack awhile back. Look here: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html >From: Curt >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: keyboard malfunctioning >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:10:48 -0400 > >Hi, >I am having problems with my keyboard working when using XFree86. >Everything works fine until I run an X application on a remote system, >namely xloadl. I get the application window, but I can't type in anything. >The only keys that do anything on the keyboard are the spacebar, the Tab >key, and the enter key. Is this a problem with my configuration, or with >the server? Just as a background, I am new to UNIX and I work with Linux a >little bit. >Thanks, >Curtis Neff > >Graduate Research Assistant >Materials Science and Engineering >Georgia Institute of Technology >office (404) 385-0698 >fax (404) 894-9140 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 1 11:46:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:46:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard malfunctioning References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020801100522.00abe0a0@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3D495617.80707@msu.edu> Curt wrote: > Hi, > I am having problems with my keyboard working when using XFree86. > Everything works fine until I run an X application on a remote system, > namely xloadl. I get the application window, but I can't type in > anything. The only keys that do anything on the keyboard are the > spacebar, the Tab key, and the enter key. Is this a problem with my > configuration, or with the server? Just as a background, I am new to > UNIX and I work with Linux a little bit. > Thanks, > Curtis Neff > > Graduate Research Assistant > Materials Science and Engineering > Georgia Institute of Technology > office (404) 385-0698 > fax (404) 894-9140 > Curtis, Turn NumLock off and try it again. Harold From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 1 14:26:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:26:00 -0000 Subject: ssh-agent in startxwin.sh? Message-ID: Hello, Why is ssh-agent in startwin.sh? Harold, I think you forgot to remove it from your script ;) And if you didn't, then you didn't add the dependency to openssh. Jehan From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Thu Aug 1 16:34:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:34:00 -0000 Subject: lesstif confuses app-defaults In-Reply-To: <200208010753.JAA29584@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> Message-ID: <20020801184648.23256.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Dou you manage to use mwm normally ? Trying to use lesstiff with the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/mwm/system.mwmrc copied in $HOME/.mwmrc doesn't function. (even it's written in README in the same directory) It reports : Warning: Cannot convert string "rom14" to type FontStruct (font problem, I think) and menus don't work, I cannot move/resize/close/... windows. --- Hans Werner Strube a ??crit??: > After upgrading XFree86 and installing lesstif (so far, I had used my > own > lesstif), I found that the directory tree was confused: > instead of a symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults -> > /etc/X11/app-defaults, > there was a directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults containing a > symlink > app-defaults and a file Mwm (the latter should rather have been in > /etc/X11/app-defaults). Thus no application (except mwm) could find > its > app-defaults file. This is obviously a bug in the lesstif tar file. > (I just found this effect has been reported before in > 2002-05/msf00296.html > but is still not fixed.) ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 1 17:09:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:09:00 -0000 Subject: ssh-agent in startxwin.sh? References: Message-ID: <3D49A792.8010103@msu.edu> Jehan, I had probably asked the same question of others at some point. Remember, I inherited the initial versions of these scripts from others. There were no comments, whatsoever, in the initial versions of these scripts. As I have said before, I am a terrible computer *user*, so I have difficulty evaluating whether a command such as ssh-agent should stay or be taken out. Can you do a search of the mailing list archives for ssh-agent and let me know what the conclusion was, if any, about removing it or keeping it? I am guessing that you are probably right... since I know a little more about ssh now and I can guess that ssh-agent is only useful to users that know what they are using it for, and you are right that there should be a dependency on ssh if we are using ssh-agent. Just let me know what you uncover and I will probably remove ssh-agent from startxwin.sh. Harold Jehan wrote: > Hello, > > Why is ssh-agent in startwin.sh? Harold, I think you forgot to remove > it from your script ;) > And if you didn't, then you didn't add the dependency to openssh. > > Jehan > > > From nahor@bravobrava.com Fri Aug 2 03:37:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 03:37:00 -0000 Subject: ssh-agent in startxwin.sh? References: <3D49A792.8010103@msu.edu> Message-ID: Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Jehan, > > I had probably asked the same question of others at some point. > Remember, I inherited the initial versions of these scripts from > others. There were no comments, whatsoever, in the initial versions of > these scripts. As I have said before, I am a terrible computer *user*, > so I have difficulty evaluating whether a command such as ssh-agent > should stay or be taken out. > > Can you do a search of the mailing list archives for ssh-agent and let > me know what the conclusion was, if any, about removing it or keeping it? > > I am guessing that you are probably right... since I know a little more > about ssh now and I can guess that ssh-agent is only useful to users > that know what they are using it for, and you are right that there > should be a dependency on ssh if we are using ssh-agent. Just let me > know what you uncover and I will probably remove ssh-agent from > startxwin.sh. I couldn't find any discussion about this issue. AFAIK, ssh-agent is only used to log on a ssh session without having to enter a password. It has nothing to do with X. Moreover the batch file doesn't use it and works well. And just for testing, I removed it from my sh script and was still able to start X with wmaker and an xterm. So I think it can safely be removed from the script. The only drawback I can see is for people who rely on ssh-agent being loaded with startxwin. But they will just have to modify their start script or, better, modify their .xinitrc. Jehan From cgf@redhat.com Fri Aug 2 03:46:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 03:46:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> References: <20020731173039.GB3120@redhat.com> <001001c23957$eea9d240$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020802000931.GC30821@redhat.com> On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:35:34PM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote: >> Since I don't accept the word of every person with a web site out there >> who thinks they are compliant with the GPL, I don't see why I should accept >> the words of a screen. Is there an independent corroboration of this >> anywhere? >> > >See what trolltech says about this >http://www.trolltech.com/developer/licensing/index.html > >"The Qt Free Edition (version 2.2 and later) is released under the Open Source >license QPL, and GPL. The Qt Free Edition may be freely copied and distributed, >put on ftp-sites and CD-ROMs etc. Qt Free Edition is provided with no warranty >and no support." > >What do you wan't more ? Ok. I yield. I'll accept that the licensing for this package is in compliance with Cygwin's. Thanks for humoring me. cgf From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 05:47:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 05:47:00 -0000 Subject: keys not mapping in application login prompt Message-ID: This problem was caused by the numlock key. User reports that keys work correctly when he runs xfree with his windows admin logon, but not his user logon. JS. >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: keys not mapping in application login prompt >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:37:00 +0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: [163.166.150.21] >Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by >mc1-f6.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 1 Aug >2002 06:37:07 -0700 >Received: (qmail 6442 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 2002 13:37:03 -0000 >Received: (qmail 6434 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 13:37:02 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.147) by >sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 13:37:02 -0000 >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; >Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:37:00 -0700 >Received: from 163.166.150.21 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;Thu, 01 >Aug 2002 13:37:00 GMT >Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Subscribe: >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: , > >Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Message-ID: >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 13:37:00.0981 (UTC) >FILETIME=[83BF9650:01C23960] >Return-Path: cygwin-xfree-return-10999-vervoom=hotmail.com@cygwin.com > >Hi, > >I have 2 boxes both running win2k and the same identical xfree 4.2.0 >version running on them. The key mappings seem fine on both until I run an >application which prompts for the username/password. On one machine, when I >type in my username it prints odd characters, on the other machine the >username prints out fine. > >Can anyone guide me on how to resolve this problem please? > >Many thanks, > >JS. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 06:59:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 06:59:00 -0000 Subject: telling your app to use the solaris font server Message-ID: I have tried this with Linux and Windows XFree and get the same results. When I run an x app called Carmen, it displays dotted square characters after the days/months. This app is running on a Solaris box so I wondered if it might work if I connect to the solaris font server. I don't want to do this with xdmcp (as I couldn't get it to work anyway), so I wondered is there a way to tell the X app to use the solaris font server instead of xfree's when it gets run ? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 08:13:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: telling your app to use the solaris font server Message-ID: I managed to fix this by typing xset fp tcp/remote host:7100 before telnetting to the box and running the app. Thanks, JS. >I have tried this with Linux and Windows XFree and get the same results. >When I run an x app called Carmen, it displays dotted square characters >after the days/months. > >This app is running on a Solaris box so I wondered if it might work if I >connect to the solaris font server. I don't want to do this with xdmcp (as >I couldn't get it to work anyway), so I wondered is there a way to tell the >X app to use the solaris font server instead of xfree's when it gets run ? > >Thanks, > >JS. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 10:29:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:29:00 -0000 Subject: lesstif confuses app-defaults Message-ID: >From: Sylvain Petreolle >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: lesstif confuses app-defaults >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:46:48 +0200 (CEST) > [snip] >and menus don't work, I cannot move/resize/close/... windows. Probably because NumLock is on. Look here for a work-around: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 13:14:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade Message-ID: Hi, I upgraded xfree today from the cygwin site but now when I start up xfree I get the following: $ startx ./xmodmap: 132: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution X Error of failed request: 86 Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) Serial number of failed request: 8 access control disabled, clients can connect from any host Current serial number in output stream: 10 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Sat Aug 3 16:43:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade Message-ID: Perhaps you could post the contents of your .xinitrc file, so we can see the whole xmodmap command-line? >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade >Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:13:46 +0000 > >Hi, > >I upgraded xfree today from the cygwin site but now when I start up xfree I >get the following: > >$ startx > >./xmodmap: 132: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution >X Error of failed request: 86 > Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) > Serial number of failed request: 8 >access control disabled, clients can connect from any host > Current serial number in output stream: 10 > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Sat Aug 3 16:56:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 16:56:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade Message-ID: I'm at home now so can't get my .xinitrc file for you at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it just said something like 'xmodmap /etc/x11/xmodmap.uk &' or 'exec xmodmap /etc/x11/xmodmap.uk &' Thanks, JS. > >Perhaps you could post the contents of your .xinitrc file, so we can see >the whole xmodmap command-line? > >>From: "J S" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: xmodmap stopped working after xfree upgrade >>Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:13:46 +0000 >> >>Hi, >> >>I upgraded xfree today from the cygwin site but now when I start up xfree >>I get the following: >> >>$ startx >> >>./xmodmap: 132: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution >>X Error of failed request: 86 >> Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) >> Serial number of failed request: 8 >>access control disabled, clients can connect from any host >> Current serial number in output stream: 10 >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From jseba@internet.com.uy Sat Aug 3 21:42:00 2002 From: jseba@internet.com.uy (Sebastian Filippini) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:42:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome+cygwin-xfree problem Message-ID: <1028418205.10353.11.camel@aperia> Hi, i have a PC running RedHat 7.1 with gnome. i'm using xdmcp to log in from a NT box running cygwin-xfree. at first it worked ok but when i installed ximian-gnome it happened that i coudn't move the windows anymore. nor minimize, maximize, close with x at the corner of the window etc. i think that is a cygwin-xfree server problem because it doesn't happen from the local linux-xfree server. i downgrade gnome but it didn't work. thanks From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Aug 4 20:13:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome+cygwin-xfree problem In-Reply-To: <1028418205.10353.11.camel@aperia> Message-ID: <20020803235657.81059.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> --- Sebastian Filippini a ??crit??: > Hi, perhaps the numlock-is-on bug ? try to disable numlock. > > i have a PC running RedHat 7.1 with gnome. i'm using xdmcp to log in > from a NT box running cygwin-xfree. at first it worked ok but when i > installed ximian-gnome it happened that i coudn't move the windows > anymore. nor minimize, maximize, close with x at the corner of the > window etc. i think that is a cygwin-xfree server problem because it > doesn't happen from the local linux-xfree server. i downgrade gnome > but > it didn't work. > > thanks ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From ksanders@mindspring.com Sun Aug 4 20:54:00 2002 From: ksanders@mindspring.com (Kerry Sanders) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:54:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: <000101c23b71$5adef6a0$6501a8c0@MARS> I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to login to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin batch file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: cygwin>XWin -unixkill & cygwin>xhost +earth cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I then export my display with the following command: export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error information: [uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 [uksand@earth uksand]$ I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Of course, my wife's machine (unnecessary in this example) is venus. :) From particle@bi.wakwak.com Mon Aug 5 00:26:00 2002 From: particle@bi.wakwak.com (Yoshiharu Kawai) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 00:26:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype Message-ID: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> hello. I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! How can I load the module? Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. -- Yoshiharu Kawai From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Mon Aug 5 01:27:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 01:27:00 -0000 Subject: [ITP] FreeCiv-1.12.0-1 for X (using libXaw) In-Reply-To: <3D2C5BB1.7010902@lapo.it> References: <3D2C5BB1.7010902@lapo.it> Message-ID: <3d4fddb3.289599672@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:07:13 +0200, Lapo Luchini wrote: >The following message is copied from message wrongly sent to >cygwin-apps@cygwin.com > >Now Nicholas Wourms has ported libXaw3D so maybe I should do a 1.12.0-2 >to use it... or maybe two separate binary packages are better? >One for libXaw (that is default) and one for libXaw3D? > >I think one binary package can be sufficient. > >Maybe I'll do a different binary package using GTK+, as soon as it's >ported, as ilbXaw version looks much worse. I have a GTK FreeCiv but not the capability to package it. These two will play ball... glib-1.2.10 gtk+-1.2.10 ...I'll root round for the options tomorrow. Also required: imlib. I happened across imlib-1.9.10 so that's what got used. gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 is lurking around but perhaps I was mistaken about it being needed at the time. Unfortunately the winmm audio option is a red herring: winmm != directx = no mixer. SDL-1.2.4 may be a viable approach (works here but is mingw). I could revisit that and see if it will build "properly". >---------------------------- >My first try, it uses libXaw, which is not as good-looking as GTK (but >is GTK available as a cygwin package?). GTK 1.2 is considered "done" isn't it? >I've seen the client crash one time, dunno if it's normal or usual, I'll >do more tests. Spurious quitting by the client via an assertion is "normal" (they get bugs reported) - a plain old crash isn't. The server ought to be rock solid. >Please notice that when the client hangs the server is still up so the >play can continue opening a new client and reconnectiong. >This package needs zlib as it includes support for compressed savegames >and/or scenarios. >This package needs libintl2 as it already includes support for many >languages. > >http://www.lapo.it/tmp/freeciv-1.12.0-1.tar.bz2 2.32Mb >http://www.lapo.it/tmp/freeciv-1.12.0-1-src.tar.bz2 3.93Mb > >@ freeciv >sdesc: "Freeciv is a multiplayer strategy game" >ldesc: "Freeciv is a free turn-based multiplayer strategy game, in which >each player becomes the leader of a civilization, fighting to obtain the >ultimate goal: > To become the greatest civilization. >Players of Civilization II? by Microprose? should feel at home, since >one aim of Freeciv is to have compatible rules. >Freeciv is maintained by an international team of coders and >enthusiasts, and is easily one of the most fun and addictive network >games out there!" >category: Games XFree86 >requires: cygwin XFree86-base libintl2 libiconv2 zlib >curr: 1.12.0-1 -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From edi@serbski-institut.de Mon Aug 5 02:54:00 2002 From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 02:54:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps In-Reply-To: <000101c23b71$5adef6a0$6501a8c0@MARS> References: <000101c23b71$5adef6a0$6501a8c0@MARS> Message-ID: <20020805.202312.74723480.edi@serbski-institut.de> From: "Kerry Sanders" Subject: Problem with running X apps Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:42:35 -0500 > I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to login > to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin batch > file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: > > cygwin>XWin -unixkill & > > cygwin>xhost +earth > > cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth > > > At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I then > export my display with the following command: > > export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 > > > When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error information: > > [uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo > Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 > [uksand@earth uksand]$ > > > > I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this > example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Looks like a DNS problem here. Have you tried with IP addresses instead of hostnames? Cheers Edi From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 05:41:00 2002 From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 05:41:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype In-Reply-To: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> References: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> Message-ID: <8bdsku091dna2tmtf8g5vloeeur086n7rp@4ax.com> You wrote in <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:14:35 +0900: > hello. > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! > How can I load the module? > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. The XWin.exe server has TrueType support built-in but you need to create a fonts.scale file in every font directory that you add to the font path that contains TrueType fonts. Joerg Pommnitz has written a nice little utility for creating these files called ttmkfdir. There's a version compiled for Cygwin at http://fundin.f2g.net/?download which includes a readme file with some ideas about how to add directories to your font path in your X start-up script. Regards, -- Sam Edge From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 5 08:28:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 08:28:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype In-Reply-To: <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Yoshiharu Kawai wrote: > hello. > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! It has now support for reading XF86Config, but ... > How can I load the module? Cygwin-Xfree does not use the module loader. Instead, the libraries are compiled into XWin.exe > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. I just tried. It's not trivial. The cygwin mkfontdir has no support for TTFs. So I had to use the one from linux. Copy the TTFs to linux, run in that directory "ttmkfdir >fonts.dir" and copy the fonts.dir back to the cygwin directory with the TTFs now you can set the fontpath to that directory (assuming it's ~/.fonts) xset fp+ ~/.fonts now you should have truetype fonts. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From reklam01@kobiline.com Mon Aug 5 09:10:00 2002 From: reklam01@kobiline.com (Bu bir reklamdir) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:10:00 -0000 Subject: Merhaba; Message-ID: Sevgili internet Kullanicilari; Bu mail belki sizleri rahatsiz edecek, belkide ilginizi ?ekecek. Eger rahatsiz ettiyse sizlerden ?ok ?ok ?z?r diliyoruz. Biz Avrupadan Erotic ?r?n ithal ederek online satisini yapan bir firmayiz. ?lkemizde hen?z bir takim tabularin yikilmadigini biliyoruz. Fakat i?inde olabilmek i?in yogun ?abalar verdigimiz Avrupa birligi ?lkelerinde bu ?r?nler marketlerde satiliyor. 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Still the same result. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of PD Dr. Edward Wornar Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:23 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; ksanders@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Problem with running X apps From: "Kerry Sanders" Subject: Problem with running X apps Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:42:35 -0500 > I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to > login to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin > batch file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: > > cygwin>XWin -unixkill & > > cygwin>xhost +earth > > cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth > > > At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I > then export my display with the following command: > > export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 > > > When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error > information: > > [uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo > Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 > [uksand@earth uksand]$ > > > > I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this > example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Looks like a DNS problem here. Have you tried with IP addresses instead of hostnames? Cheers Edi From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 09:32:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:32:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the provided startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an xterm. However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the DISPLAY variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned on: cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 cygwin> XWin & cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients right way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh will have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY and sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting errors that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and try again. >From: "Kerry Sanders" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: Problem with running X apps >Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:42:35 -0500 > >I am having a problem after installing Cygwin/XFree when I try to login >to my Redhat 7.3 box from a WinXP machine. I launch the Cygwin batch >file and from the Cygwin prompt, I issue the following commands: > >cygwin>XWin -unixkill & > >cygwin>xhost +earth > >cygwin>ssh -l uksand earth > > >At this point, I am logged into the Linux box with no problems. I then >export my display with the following command: > > export DISPLAY=mars:0.0 > > >When I then try to launch xlogo, I get the following error information: > >[uksand@earth uksand]$ xlogo >Xlib: connection to "mars:0.0" refused by server >Xlib: No protocol specified >Error: Can't open display: mars:0.0 >[uksand@earth uksand]$ > > > >I am hoping that someone will have input on this. By the way, in this >example, earth is my Linux box. Mars is my WinXP box. Of course, my >wife's machine (unnecessary in this example) is venus. :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 09:37:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:37:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype Message-ID: Here's a thread RE ttmkfdir in the archive for this mailing list that might be useful: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-03/msg00098.html >From: Sam Edge >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: How to load libfreetype >Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:26:46 +0100 > >You wrote in <3D4DED9B.ACDD37EB@bi.wakwak.com> >in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:14:35 +0900: > > > hello. > > > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! > > How can I load the module? > > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. > >The XWin.exe server has TrueType support built-in but you need to >create a fonts.scale file in every font directory that you add to the >font path that contains TrueType fonts. > >Joerg Pommnitz has written a nice little utility for creating these >files called ttmkfdir. There's a version compiled for Cygwin at >http://fundin.f2g.net/?download which includes a readme file with some >ideas about how to add directories to your font path in your X >start-up script. > >Regards, >-- >Sam Edge _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 10:25:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:25:00 -0000 Subject: Question regarding mailing list archive... Message-ID: I have a question regarding the cygwin mailing list archives and don't know who to contact. Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction? The issue is that if I reply to a message sent to a list to which I subscribe (e.g. cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com), it shows up in the mailing list archive on the web, but does not get included as a "Follow-Up" link to the original message. Case in point. Here's the root message of a thread: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00031.html Note there are 2 follow-ups shown, but my reply is not among them, even though it was archived here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00039.html I also see that my reply has no "References". I'm guessing that my email client, hotmail, isn't doing something that it should. Is there a known work-around? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 11:04:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:04:00 -0000 Subject: Question regarding mailing list archive... Message-ID: Oops. Note that my reply was in response to this message: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00034.html and not the thread root as I originally stated. However, the "Follow- Up" and "References" behavior still applies. >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin@cygwin.com, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Question regarding mailing list archive... >Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:32:53 -0400 > >I have a question regarding the cygwin mailing list archives and don't know >who to contact. Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction? > >The issue is that if I reply to a message sent to a list to which I >subscribe (e.g. cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com), it shows up in the mailing list >archive on the web, but does not get included as a "Follow-Up" link to the >original message. > >Case in point. Here's the root message of a thread: > >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00031.html > >Note there are 2 follow-ups shown, but my reply is not among them, even >though it was archived here: > >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00039.html > >I also see that my reply has no "References". > >I'm guessing that my email client, hotmail, isn't doing something that it >should. Is there a known work-around? > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From moins20@ifrance.com Mon Aug 5 11:19:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> Hello, I'm connecting to a AIX box. Since my laptop has a french keyboard layout I first managed to build a french keymap. xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m fr /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/fr.xkm And then I use a ms-dos batch script to launch my X client with the right options... @echo off d: chdir d:\cygwin\bin bash -c "/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe :0 -query aixbox +kb -xkbmap fr -fullscreen - unixkill" First of all, I have to use +kb in order to have my fr keymap working, if I use -kb (like mentioned in the FAQ) I'll be under default (US) keymap. Everything goes right until I try to print some special characters like '|' or '\', which are accessible with the famous 'Alt Gr' key. In fact the Alt Gr key simply does not work at all, I've found several usefull hints in the FAQ but none really solved my problem. The most efficient action is to do a xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' just after login in... This way I can have at least one dtterm accepting my Alt_R signal and fully understanding it as a regular Mode_switch. But unfortunately this will works once (in only one dtterm). I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the did'nt give up) ? From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 5 11:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:24:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users References: <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> Message-ID: <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> Stephane, Have you tried turning 'NumLock' off when you use XDMCP to connect to your AIX machine? NumLock used to be ``server handled'' which means that the X Server sees that NumLock is pushed and it sends the number keys for the numeric keypad; when it sees that NumLock is not pushed, the server sends clients the arrow keys, home, end, pg up, pg down, etc. NumLock was added as a ``modifier key'' within the last few years. This means that X Clients must check whether NumLock is pushed to determine how to interpret each key. The problem here is broken X Server/Xlib/X Clients that check for AltGr via some sort of check such as: if (CapsLock) { /* do something */ } else if (ScrollLock) { /* do something */ } else { /* assume AltGr is pushed */ } These broken implementations were written to assume that any modifier value equal to or above the highest-known modifier value used at the time was the modifier corresponding to the highest-known modifier value at that time. In other words, if AltGr was modifier 4 then the broken implementation would treat any modifiers >= 4 as AltGr. NumLock is essentially modifer 5 in this case (that's probably not the actual value), so 5 >= 4 causes the broken programs to interpret NumLock incorrectly. The strange thing about all of this is that we copied the XFree86-linux code for keyboard support. That code treats NumLock as a modifier. The code that we lifted must only be used for certain keyboards or on certain platforms because most XFree86-linux users report that the problem does not affect them, while AIX, et al are affected. The main drawback to modifying the numeric keypad key codes when we see that NumLock is on is that we cannot seem to catch all cases and handle them properly. That is, we used to translate numeric keypad codes before and we never got it quite right. People were always complaining that some key did not work as it was supposed to. These complaints went away after we made NumLock a modifier. So, try turning NumLock off and let us all rejoice if you have success. Harold Stephane Poirey wrote: > > Hello, > I'm connecting to a AIX box. Since my laptop has a french keyboard layout I > first managed to build a french keymap. > > xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m fr /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/fr.xkm > > And then I use a ms-dos batch script to launch my X client with the right > options... > > @echo off > d: > chdir d:\cygwin\bin > bash -c "/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe :0 -query aixbox +kb -xkbmap fr -fullscreen - > unixkill" > > First of all, I have to use +kb in order to have my fr keymap working, if I > use -kb (like mentioned in the FAQ) I'll be under default (US) keymap. > > Everything goes right until I try to print some special characters like '|' > or '\', which are accessible with the famous 'Alt Gr' key. > In fact the Alt Gr key simply does not work at all, > > I've found several usefull hints in the FAQ but none really solved my problem. > > The most efficient action is to do a > > xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' > > just after login in... This way I can have at least one dtterm accepting my > Alt_R signal and fully understanding it as a regular Mode_switch. > But unfortunately this will works once (in only one dtterm). > > > I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is > probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted > to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the > did'nt give up) ? From briangenisio@yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 12:20:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X Message-ID: <20020805181914.85829.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, Its been a while since I have posted or read... I unsubscribed a few months ago after a long vacation, and have not followed since. Sorry to be absent. Anyways, I am doing a bit of research into how to solve a problem, and I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app in Windows, and display on an X server. Is this possible? Has anyone done anything like this? I have written a few java apps in my day, but of course, they use the windows native graphics environment. Any ideas? Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Mon Aug 5 16:50:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 16:50:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > Anyways, I am doing a bit of research into how to solve a > problem, and I > thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java > app in Windows, and > display on an X server. Is this possible? Has anyone done > anything like this? I use cygwin as my NT java development environment - however I use the NT native version of java. This opens its own windows and doesn't use X ('cos it's the NT version). In order to get java to do what you want it to do, you need a version of java compiled under cygwin. AFAIK this doesn't exist. If you want to have a go - you can get the java source from Sun I believe under there open source program. That might compile fairly easily - but then it might not. Stuart From BrianGenisio@yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 17:48:00 2002 From: BrianGenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 17:48:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Stuart Adamson wrote: >>Anyways, I am doing a bit of research into how to solve a >>problem, and I >>thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java >>app in Windows, and >>display on an X server. Is this possible? Has anyone done >>anything like this? > > > I use cygwin as my NT java development environment - however I use the NT > native version of java. This opens its own windows and doesn't use X > ('cos it's the NT version). > > In order to get java to do what you want it to do, you need a version of > java compiled under cygwin. AFAIK this doesn't exist. > > If you want to have a go - you can get the java source from Sun I believe > under > there open source program. That might compile fairly easily - but then it > might not. > > > Stuart > Hmmm... Its a pitty the java virtual machine does not support this... it would be slick. Brian From ksanders@mindspring.com Mon Aug 5 19:25:00 2002 From: ksanders@mindspring.com (Kerry Sanders) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 19:25:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c23cda$ddcd46b0$6501a8c0@MARS> Thanks Thomas. This is the same thing that Jim posted earlier. What I needed was the -X on the ssh command. However, does the encryption really slow stuff down that much? I is really slow running X apps like KDE, etc. over my 100 Base-T network. -----Original Message----- First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the provided startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an xterm. However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the DISPLAY variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned on: cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 cygwin> XWin & cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients right way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh will have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY and sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting errors that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and try again. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 5 20:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:27:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps References: <000001c23cda$ddcd46b0$6501a8c0@MARS> Message-ID: <3D4F1CCC.4030000@msu.edu> Kerry, No, the encryption should not slow things down much. You may also want to try the -C parameter to ssh, which causes network packets to be compressed. However, have a look at your network hub before starting your ssh session and see how many collisions you are getting. Lots of collisions on a network segment with less than 50 computers with active users at them is a sure sign of network misconfiguration. At one of my jobs we had 20 computers and at night, when no one was using the computers, the network collisions light was nearly blinking solid. All of this wasted bandwidth turned out to be due to Windows machines broadcasting to discover other Windows machines. Some of the machines were also setup with the wrong gateway/netmask so they would broadcast and not receive any responses (these machines also could not get on the Internet, which the other employees thought was just a fluke)... so those machines would broadcast-flood the network. Setting up a WINS server and making the Windows machines look to the WINS server first fixed the problem. After that our collisions light never blinked and we got about 5 times higher throughput. Another tale is that my 100 Base-T switch hooked into the MSU campuses 10 Base-T network would occasionally give agonizingly slow performance between the Windows computer and the Linux computer when using XDMCP. During these times the network activity lights were not blinking anymore than usual, so it does not seem that someone was accessing my computers. Also, I was using a switch, so access times between local computers should be unaffected by traffic on the 10 Base-T network. Yet if I unplugged the 10 Base-T network from the 100 Base-T switch the performance problem went away. So, you should try unplugging everything else from your hub or switch once you have started your ssh session and see if performance improves. I hope some of that helps, Harold Kerry Sanders wrote: > Thanks Thomas. This is the same thing that Jim posted earlier. > > What I needed was the -X on the ssh command. However, does the > encryption really slow stuff down that much? I is really slow running X > apps like KDE, etc. over my 100 Base-T network. > > > -----Original Message----- > First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the > provided > startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an > xterm. > > However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the > DISPLAY > variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned > on: > > cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 > cygwin> XWin & > cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname > > Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients > right > way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh > will > have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY > variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY > and > sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! > > By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on > localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting > errors > that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and > try > again. > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Tue Aug 6 00:19:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:19:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: Seems to me that on a reasonably fast LAN any slow down is going to be a function of the CPU "horsepower" at either end of the pipe, not the LAN bandwidth, since it's the processer which is doing the {de|en}cryption. On the other hand, a narrow band connection (like 56k dialup) might actually benefit from the encyption (that is, if my assumption that encyption also compresses the packets is correct). I observe in my office what I think is a "moderate" slowdown when using an ssh connection vs. an unencrypted connection. (For the record I run Cygwin/XFree on my Thinkpad w/ a 700MHz Pentium III, 256MB SDRAM, and Windows 2000; and connect to my RS/6000 Model 44P-170 w/ a 333MHZ POWER3 processor, 2GB SDRAM, and AIX4.3 over 100BaseT full-duplex Ethernet.) Since I'm behind a corporate firewall, I'm not particularly concerned about who is looking at my X traffic, or what they might see, so I don't bother with ssh. >From: "Kerry Sanders" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: RE: Problem with running X apps >Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:50:23 -0500 > >Thanks Thomas. This is the same thing that Jim posted earlier. > >What I needed was the -X on the ssh command. However, does the >encryption really slow stuff down that much? I is really slow running X >apps like KDE, etc. over my 100 Base-T network. > > >-----Original Message----- >First, I would recommend against running XWin directly. Use the >provided >startxwin.bat batch file instead and then run the ssh command from an >xterm. > >However, if you REALLY want to do it this way, you need to set the >DISPLAY >variable FIRST, then launch XWin, then run ssh with X forwarding turned >on: > >cygwin> export DISPLAY=locahostname:0 >cygwin> XWin & >cygwin> ssh -X -l remoteusername remotehostname > >Once logged into the remote host, you can start running your Xclients >right >way. No need to set the DISPLAY variable yourself (or run xhost). Ssh >will >have already taken care of all of that. In fact, setting the DISPLAY >variable as you describe below CIRCUMVENTS THE SSH CONNECTION ENTIRELY >and >sends your XWindows traffic unencrypted! > >By the way, if the file .Xauthority exists in your home directory on >localhostname, it might cause problems. If you find you are getting >errors >that refer to "MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE", then delete the .Xauthority file and >try >again. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From particle@bi.wakwak.com Tue Aug 6 00:38:00 2002 From: particle@bi.wakwak.com (Yoshiharu Kawai) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:38:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype References: Message-ID: <3D4F4259.94C37842@bi.wakwak.com> Thank you to answering my question!(^_^) Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Yoshiharu Kawai wrote: > > > hello. > > > > I'm Cygwin-XFree86's user, > > and I want to use the TrueType fonts(libfreetype?). > > But Cygwin-XFree86 has no XF86Config settingfile!!! > > It has now support for reading XF86Config, but ... > > > How can I load the module? > > Cygwin-Xfree does not use the module loader. Instead, the libraries are > compiled into XWin.exe > > > Somebody please tell me hot to configure it. > > I just tried. It's not trivial. > > The cygwin mkfontdir has no support for TTFs. So I had to use the one > from linux. > > Copy the TTFs to linux, run in that directory "ttmkfdir >fonts.dir" > and copy the fonts.dir back to the cygwin directory with the TTFs > > now you can set the fontpath to that directory (assuming it's ~/.fonts) > xset fp+ ~/.fonts > > now you should have truetype fonts. I use the TTCs(Japanese Windows 2000/98/Me's TrueType fonts file). I try to make fonts.dir by myself, and to use "xset +fp ...", "xset fp rehash".... But I can't see the TTCs...(at xfontsel command) I can use the TTCs at RedHat Linux 7.3, as same fonts.dir, and I see TTCs. At RedHat Linux XFree86's version is 4.2.0-8. I wonder the difference is Linux's XF86COnfig-4 Section "Module" : : load "freetype"'.??? EndSection or another problem? > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# #???????????http://particle.jp/ # #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# #?????????????????????# From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Tue Aug 6 00:47:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:47:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, ita lian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: What does "give up" mean? I came to the conclusion that the X-terminal-emulators on AIX (and HP/UX) were not up to handling international keyboards. It took a couple of days for this knowledge to reach my brain. Now I'm starting xterms on Cygwin/Xfree86, and then connect to the hosts. As in: xterm -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-15 \ -ls -bd green -fg black -bg white -j -sb -sl 512 \ -tn xterm -geometry 80x50 \ -e uizvdm18 -l ex1 & See the last line: uizvdm18 is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/rlogin.exe and the name of a host, on which I log in as "ex1" Nienta Problema this way. Geert -----Original Message----- From: Stephane Poirey [mailto:moins20@ifrance.com] Sent: maandag 5 augustus 2002 18:25 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Hello, I'm connecting to a AIX box. Since my laptop has a french keyboard layout I first managed to build a french keymap. xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m fr /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/fr.xkm And then I use a ms-dos batch script to launch my X client with the right options... @echo off d: chdir d:\cygwin\bin bash -c "/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe :0 -query aixbox +kb -xkbmap fr -fullscreen - unixkill" First of all, I have to use +kb in order to have my fr keymap working, if I use -kb (like mentioned in the FAQ) I'll be under default (US) keymap. Everything goes right until I try to print some special characters like '|' or '\', which are accessible with the famous 'Alt Gr' key. In fact the Alt Gr key simply does not work at all, I've found several usefull hints in the FAQ but none really solved my problem. The most efficient action is to do a xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' just after login in... This way I can have at least one dtterm accepting my Alt_R signal and fully understanding it as a regular Mode_switch. But unfortunately this will works once (in only one dtterm). I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the did'nt give up) ? =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From ksanders@mindspring.com Tue Aug 6 00:51:00 2002 From: ksanders@mindspring.com (Kerry Sanders) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:51:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c23d1c$36e37490$6501a8c0@MARS> That is what I was going for, but being new to Linux, I am trying to figure out what to use other than ssh at this point. Would it be rlogin? For the record, I am running a WinXP box over a 100 BaseT home network connecting to a Redhat 7.3 linux box. -----Original Message----- Since I'm behind a corporate firewall, I'm not particularly concerned about who is looking at my X traffic, or what they might see, so I don't bother with ssh. From moins20@ifrance.com Tue Aug 6 01:16:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 01:16:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> References: <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> Message-ID: <1028620080.3d4f7f30d9476@imp.free.fr> Harold, My NumLock key is always off, and if I try to put it on before connecting to the remote host then it's like if my Alt_Gr key was locked down (but it's in the FAQ :-). If I put it on AFTER login in there is no change. So in my case playing with NumLock has no good effect. Below is an extract of the AIX keyboard definition file. I'm not used to read those files but it sounds surprising to me as I believed that Mode_switch was known as "Mod3" and according to those lines it seems to be "Mod2" on AIX, is it possible ? (from /usr/lpp/X11/defaults/xmodmap/Fr_FR/keyboard) ! Modifiers ! --------- clear Lock clear Mod1 clear Mod2 add Lock = Shift_Lock add Mod1 = Alt_L add Mod2 = Mode_switch En r??ponse ?? Harold L Hunt II : > Stephane, > > Have you tried turning 'NumLock' off when you use XDMCP to connect to > your AIX machine? > > NumLock used to be ``server handled'' which means that the X Server sees > > that NumLock is pushed and it sends the number keys for the numeric > keypad; when it sees that NumLock is not pushed, the server sends > clients the arrow keys, home, end, pg up, pg down, etc. > > NumLock was added as a ``modifier key'' within the last few years. This > > means that X Clients must check whether NumLock is pushed to determine > > how to interpret each key. > > The problem here is broken X Server/Xlib/X Clients that check for AltGr > > via some sort of check such as: > if (CapsLock) > { /* do something */ } > else if (ScrollLock) > { /* do something */ } > else > { /* assume AltGr is pushed */ } > > These broken implementations were written to assume that any modifier > value equal to or above the highest-known modifier value used at the > time was the modifier corresponding to the highest-known modifier value > > at that time. In other words, if AltGr was modifier 4 then the broken > > implementation would treat any modifiers >= 4 as AltGr. NumLock is > essentially modifer 5 in this case (that's probably not the actual > value), so 5 >= 4 causes the broken programs to interpret NumLock > incorrectly. > > The strange thing about all of this is that we copied the XFree86-linux > > code for keyboard support. That code treats NumLock as a modifier. The > > code that we lifted must only be used for certain keyboards or on > certain platforms because most XFree86-linux users report that the > problem does not affect them, while AIX, et al are affected. > > The main drawback to modifying the numeric keypad key codes when we see > > that NumLock is on is that we cannot seem to catch all cases and handle > > them properly. That is, we used to translate numeric keypad codes > before and we never got it quite right. People were always complaining > > that some key did not work as it was supposed to. These complaints went > > away after we made NumLock a modifier. > > So, try turning NumLock off and let us all rejoice if you have > success. > > Harold From moins20@ifrance.com Tue Aug 6 02:29:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 02:29:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, ita lian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1028620292.3d4f800457e40@imp.free.fr> En r??ponse ?? "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" : > I came to the conclusion that the X-terminal-emulators on AIX (and > HP/UX) were not up to handling international keyboards. It might be possible since Hummingbird Exceed works perfectly (but I don't want to have to use Exceed if there's another choice possible). Thanks for your advice but in my particular case it's not acceptable since we do not allow rlogin on our network. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 6 03:15:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: How to load libfreetype In-Reply-To: <3D4F4259.94C37842@bi.wakwak.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Yoshiharu Kawai wrote: > rehash".... > But I can't see the TTCs...(at xfontsel command) Please check the fonts.dir in the directory with the TTCs. Can you see any entry which belongs to that fonts? > I can use the TTCs at RedHat Linux 7.3, as same fonts.dir, and I see TTCs. > At RedHat Linux XFree86's version is 4.2.0-8. Then copy the fonts to the RedHat linux computer, run mkfontdir or ttmkfdir >fonts.dir and copy fonts.dir to linux. You might also try renaming the fonts to .ttf > I wonder the difference is Linux's XF86COnfig-4 > > Section "Module" > : > : > load "freetype"'.??? > EndSection As I already said, XWin is _not_ using any modules. So the Module section from XF86Config gets ignored. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de Tue Aug 6 03:25:00 2002 From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:25:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Stuart, > Stuart Adamson wrote: > >> I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app > >> in Windows, and display on an X server. A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. so long, benny From tpe-stevenchang.BNSLINK@bnslink.com Tue Aug 6 03:35:00 2002 From: tpe-stevenchang.BNSLINK@bnslink.com (tpe-stevenchang.BNSLINK@bnslink.com) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:35:00 -0000 Subject: X fonset Message-ID: helo: My name is steven chang. Now I am trying Xfree86 to test the display server for my hpux host, I meet a question that the NNM manager needs special fontset , so would you mind telling where the path and file that I can modify to solve my question, thank you? cygwin is installed in win2000 procefession, thank you anyway !!! From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Aug 6 03:38:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:38:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste Message-ID: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it would appear I cannot. I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. What do I need to do? TIA, Jim From john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com Tue Aug 6 06:04:00 2002 From: john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com (John Morrison) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 06:04:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: > From: Jim George > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' > paste from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or > other, but it would appear I cannot. > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > What do I need to do? Check out xwinclip - it's somewhere on the web pages... J. From moins20@ifrance.com Tue Aug 6 07:14:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 07:14:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1028630304.3d4fa720b3045@imp.free.fr> Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the text you want to copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single click on the middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right and left buttons). This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another application. En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > would appear I cannot. > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > What do I need to do? > > TIA, > > Jim > From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Aug 6 07:26:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 07:26:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <1028630304.3d4fa720b3045@imp.free.fr> References: <20020806111751.623710ff.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> <1028630304.3d4fa720b3045@imp.free.fr> Message-ID: <20020806140203.77763e25.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> I'm sorry but I'm none the wiser. I downloaded and installed xwinclip and started it after XWin using the start /B switch (which by the way doesn't appear to work for me as I have a command window left open on a win2k system). But even with this installed I still don't get cut/copy 'n' paste between xterms, applications, rxvt, or windows applications. I don't have a 3 button mouse but pressing left and right together doesn't work. Any ideas what I am or maybe doing wrong? Jim On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:38:24 +0200 (MEST) Stephane Poirey wrote: > > Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the text you want to > copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single click on the > middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right and left buttons). > > This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another > application. > > > En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > > would appear I cannot. > > > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > > > What do I need to do? > > > > TIA, > > > > Jim > > From BrianGenisio@yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 08:45:00 2002 From: BrianGenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 08:45:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D4FD9B2.7080500@yahoo.com> Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > >>Stuart Adamson wrote: >> >>>>I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app >>>>in Windows, and display on an X server. >>> > > A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to > http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. > > > so long, benny > > Yeah, that does sound interesting... It looks more like a Java interface to the X libraries. I can see how this would be extremely useful. Unfortunately, what I am looking for (just peeking for time being), is the existence of a VM that supports this functionality, like the *nix versions do. It would be neat to run the java VM with a flag that used the X protocol instead. Want in one hand, and shit in annother... see which fills up quicker. B From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 6 09:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 09:14:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: <20020806140203.77763e25.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: If you want three button emulation, you have to specify that option to XWin: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jim George > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:02 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: cut 'n' paste > > > I'm sorry but I'm none the wiser. > > I downloaded and installed xwinclip and started it after XWin > using the start /B switch (which by the way doesn't appear to > work for me as I have a command window left open on a win2k > system). But even with this installed I still don't get cut/copy > 'n' paste between xterms, applications, rxvt, or windows applications. > > I don't have a 3 button mouse but pressing left and right > together doesn't work. > > Any ideas what I am or maybe doing wrong? > > Jim > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:38:24 +0200 (MEST) > Stephane Poirey wrote: > > > > > Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the > text you want to > > copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single > click on the > > middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right > and left buttons). > > > > This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another > > application. > > > > > > En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > > > > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > > > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > > > would appear I cannot. > > > > > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > > > > > What do I need to do? > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Jim > > > From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Aug 6 10:59:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: cut 'n' paste In-Reply-To: References: <20020806140203.77763e25.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020806164304.43bd4e80.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Thanks Harold, that did the trick. Jim On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:26:19 -0400 "Harold Hunt" wrote: > If you want three button emulation, you have to specify that option to XWin: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jim George > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:02 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: cut 'n' paste > > > > > > I'm sorry but I'm none the wiser. > > > > I downloaded and installed xwinclip and started it after XWin > > using the start /B switch (which by the way doesn't appear to > > work for me as I have a command window left open on a win2k > > system). But even with this installed I still don't get cut/copy > > 'n' paste between xterms, applications, rxvt, or windows applications. > > > > I don't have a 3 button mouse but pressing left and right > > together doesn't work. > > > > Any ideas what I am or maybe doing wrong? > > > > Jim > > > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:38:24 +0200 (MEST) > > Stephane Poirey wrote: > > > > > > > > Most of the time you can do a copy/paste by highlighting the > > text you want to > > > copy with the left button of your mouse en paste with a single > > click on the > > > middle button (with if often emulated by pressing both right > > and left buttons). > > > > > > This works fine between xterms and also between an xterm and another > > > application. > > > > > > > > > En r??ponse ?? Jim George : > > > > > > > Ok gang tell me this is a FAQ but...I often want to cut/copy 'n' paste > > > > from sylpheed (GUI mail client) into an xterm/rxvt or other, but it > > > > would appear I cannot. > > > > > > > > I also don't appear to be able to cut/copy 'n' paste in xterm either. > > > > > > > > What do I need to do? > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Tue Aug 6 12:19:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:19:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with running X apps Message-ID: Add the follow "scriptlet" to the end of /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh: disp=`echo $DISPLAY | awk -F: '{print $2}'` ip=`ipconfig | grep Address | awk -F: '{print $2}' | sed "s# ##g"` xhost remotehostname rsh -l remoteusername remotehostname \ xterm -title "remoteusername@remotehostname" -display $ip:$disp & Thereafter, when starting XWin with this script, you will get 2 xterms at startup, one on localhostname and one on remotehostname. Note that for rsh to be successful, you need to have a file called ".rhosts" in your home directory on remotehostname. You will want to add an entry that looks like "localhostname localusername" on a line by itself. You can figure out the value to use for localhostname by running "hostname" at the Cygwin bash prompt. You can figure out the value to use for localusername by running "whoami" at the Cygwin bash prompt. Type "man rsh" at the Cygwin bash prompt to learn more about the rsh command. >From: "Kerry Sanders" >To: "'Thomas Chadwick'" , >Subject: RE: Problem with running X apps >Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 02:38:10 -0500 > >That is what I was going for, but being new to Linux, I am trying to >figure out what to use other than ssh at this point. Would it be >rlogin? > >For the record, I am running a WinXP box over a 100 BaseT home network >connecting to a Redhat 7.3 linux box. > > > >-----Original Message----- >Since I'm behind a corporate firewall, I'm not particularly concerned >about >who is looking at my X traffic, or what they might see, so I don't >bother >with ssh. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From rrschulz@cris.com Tue Aug 6 12:36:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:36:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <3D4FD9B2.7080500@yahoo.com> References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A482@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <3D4ECD46.8030409@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020806104127.024ffea0@pop3.cris.com> Brian, Interfacing to platform-specific facilities such as graphics / windows, audio, file systems etc. is not, strictly speaking, a JVM issue. The JVM per se is primarily tied to a processor architecture, instruction set and programming model and to a lesser extent to the memory address layout that is usually OS-specific (and which is somewhat different in Cygwin than in native Windows, I believe). So Java AWT libraries for X would indeed give you the ability to run graphics-based Java programs under XFree86/Cygwin. If you wanted Cygwin I/O and process functionality, e.g., you'd need to go with a complete set of Cygwin-built Java libraries, which would no doubt be most closely akin to the Linux or another Unix port or work-alike. I don't know how well the graphics / AWT libraries are separated from the I/O and process portions of the library and hence how easy it would be to mix and match, say, XFree86/Cygwin graphics (and mouse / keyboard) with Windows I/O and processes, e.g. Presumably it's not too bad. Apple has been through this, of course, in having two Java platforms encompassing two different I/O systems and two different UI systems (between MacOS 8x. / 9.x / Classic on the one hand and MacOS X on the other. The former is completely proprietary, of course, while the latter uses Darwin / FreeBSD and so mostly Unix-like in its I/O and process, memory and library architecture and has its own UI subsystems.) I know of one person (Ted Neward, ) who's working on a full Cygwin-based Java platform. He reported recently to the Advanced Java list at DevelopMentor.com that SCSL JDK release was oriented toward MKS and he was having trouble running some of the build scripts under Cygwin. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 07:14 2002-08-06, Brian Genisio wrote: >Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: >>Hi Stuart, >> >>>Stuart Adamson wrote: >>> >>>>>I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java app >>>>>in Windows, and display on an X server. >>A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. >> >>so long, benny > >Yeah, that does sound interesting... It looks more like a Java interface >to the X libraries. I can see how this would be extremely useful. > >Unfortunately, what I am looking for (just peeking for time being), is the >existence of a VM that supports this functionality, like the *nix >versions do. It would be neat to run the java VM with a flag that used >the X protocol instead. > >... > >B From s_i_m@mail.ru Tue Aug 6 20:04:00 2002 From: s_i_m@mail.ru (S.I.M) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:04:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap under cygwin/XFree + w2k Message-ID: <002201c23d7e$7e7e5f60$4499e982@hut.fi> Hi! It seems that I have no effect with "xmodmap" on my system. I used "xkeycaps" (it takes a certain time to compile it, xpm library is missed in the linking options in Imakefile there... also rman fails to produce html docs...) to create .Xmodmap file for my FI keyboard in my home directory. Then I added a command xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap into my .xinitrc file, before starting the window manager. I also tried to use systemwide xinitrc but with the same zero result. When I start xmodmap from xterm it says no errors... And again there is no result. Does this related only to this particular platform (cigwin/XFree + w2k)? There is nothing said about that in the FAQ. Thanks! 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I am using Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 and still have the problem. I have tried almost everything, the Cadence tools run but the colors are messed up. is there a solution for this? I have noticed that this is on the cygwin todo list. any one solved this problem? Regards, Houssam _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Aug 7 09:06:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:06:00 -0000 Subject: /usr/bin/telnet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020807083842.52494.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> telnet is part of inetutils package. see http://www.cygwin.com/packages --- Brandon Reddell a ??crit : > Hi, > > I just downloaded and installed XFree86. Everything seems to work > very well. > I notice, however, that telnet did not install. The user manual seems > to > indicate that it is part of the package. Can anyone tell me how to > get > telnet? > > Thanks, > > Brandon > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Aug 7 09:07:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:07:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing problems for users at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are sometimes too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them from opening up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. Thanks for any help. JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 10:09:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:09:00 -0000 Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Houssam, You have two choices: 1) Run Windows in 8 bit color mode. Pass the ``-engine 1'' parameter to Cygwin/XFree86: XWin -engine 1 This will give you a windowed X Server but you must run Windows in 8 bit color mode. 2) Run Windows in any color mode you like, but pass the ``-fullscreen -depth 8'' parameters to Cygwin/XFree86: XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 This will give you a fullscreen X Server, so there will be a slight delay when you switch into and out of Cygwin/XFree86. Those are your only two options. If you have any suggestions as to how we can improve this... keep them to yourself :) We have already thought of some better ways to do this, but we do not have the knowledge to implement those ideas. So, the PseudoColor support is stuck at where it is for now. Hope that helps, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Houssam Kanj > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:24 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor > > > Hi everybody. > > I was trying to run Cadence IC design tools on a remote host > (Sun Machine) and the color were in a mess. > I am using Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 and still have the problem. > I have tried almost everything, the Cadence tools run > but the colors are messed up. > > is there a solution for this? I have noticed that this is on > the cygwin todo list. any one solved this problem? > > Regards, > Houssam > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 10:12:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:12:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the people that made WindowMaker. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:31 AM > To: wm-user@windowmaker.org > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: x-windows opening up too large > > > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing > problems for users > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are > sometimes > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them > from opening > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > > Thanks for any help. > > JS. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > From s_i_m@mail.ru Wed Aug 7 10:47:00 2002 From: s_i_m@mail.ru (S.I.M) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:47:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap under cygwin/XFree + w2k References: <002201c23d7e$7e7e5f60$4499e982@hut.fi> Message-ID: <000f01c23e35$79a4fdc0$4499e982@hut.fi> Sorry, the problem was in "xkeycaps". It stored (several times!) incorrect keymap (us default) instead of the necessary FI one. Probably, I was too tired yesterday to find out such a simple thing =) All is perfectly working now. Trying to understand what was wrong with "xkeycaps"... Thanks! S.I.M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.I.M" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: xmodmap under cygwin/XFree + w2k > Hi! > > It seems that I have no effect with "xmodmap" on my system. I used > "xkeycaps" (it takes a certain time to compile it, xpm library is missed in > the linking options in Imakefile there... also rman fails to produce html > docs...) to create .Xmodmap file for my FI keyboard in my home directory. > Then I added a command > > xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap > > into my .xinitrc file, before starting the window manager. I also tried to > use systemwide xinitrc but with the same zero result. > > When I start xmodmap from xterm it says no errors... And again there is no > result. Does this related only to this particular platform (cigwin/XFree + > w2k)? There is nothing said about that in the FAQ. > > Thanks! > S.I.M > > From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 10:50:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:50:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide task ba r active consumes CPU resources Message-ID: Please forgive any ignorance of mine demonstrated by this note. Also please forgive the length of the message. :-) We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on Jul 7th. I don't know how what file to look at in the unpack directory to verify what version we are running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control Center GUI, it is KDE version 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top and to "Auto Hide" with the smallest delay, fastest speed, and the Animate set fairly low (about 5 ticks up). The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item on my Windows task bar and it takes the whole screen when present. The Alt/Space does not drop down the System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system icon on the left side of the title bar, so I move the mouse up to the minimize button (icon) on the right side of the title bar. As the mouse moves over the area assigned to the KDE task bar, it pops up (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU load jumps up to float around 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task bar stays up while the mouse is over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I push the minimize button, the CPU load stays the same. This is true even when some other Windows program currently has the focus (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. Alt/Tab from Cygwin/XFree86 to Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by simply moving the mouse over that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not have the active focus. Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows program) partly over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE auto-hide task bar NOT active, there is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar that does NOT activate the KCD task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU load is NOT increased. My belief is that the interaction between the KDE auto-hide bar and Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse messages be monitored by the KDE. So I presume the socket for the X messages must then be getting used by KDE asking "Has the mouse moved away from the active bar area?". It seems to me that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not determine this. I know very little about X messages. Is there something that can be done about this besides move the task bar to the bottom bar and/or make it not auto-hide? Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space combination activate the Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? Thank you, Steve Stone From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 13:19:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:19:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip can copy from NT to KDE but not from KDE to NT Message-ID: I apologize for my lack of knowledge about X selections and how to configure them. After I start xwinclip (from Test06.exe) under NT 4.0 (service pack 6.0) I get the below message which I presume is normal: UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP Now the usual selection and copy mechanisms work in all Windows programs and I can use my Scroll mouse button to paste the copied Windows text into any KDE window (actually only tested in KDE Console and Visual SlickEdit editor windows). But, when I select any item in any KDE window, two things happen. First, the xwinclip application window prints this message: SelectionNotify CompoundText Secondly, I can no longer paste and Windows copied text into KDE. The KDE windows copy and paste as normal between themselves and the Windows apps do the same between themselves. It is as if xwinclip had stopped running. Stopping and restarting xwinclip returns me to the one-way cut and paste from Windows to KDE. The following readme item may be related to my problem but I don't know since I am not aware of what these selections mean in the KDE/X environment: > xwinclip has been tested with the PRIMARY selection, > and code is in place that may handle the CLIPBOARD > selection. However, no code is in place to handle > the SECONDARY selection, and the code for the CLIPBOARD > selection has not been tested and, therefore, it may not work. Thank you for your time, Steve Stone From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 13:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:26:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide task ba r active consumes CPU resources References: Message-ID: <3D515DD6.1070007@msu.edu> Steve, Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... any problems you have are expected and they are being worked on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session running on another machine, then we would be somewhat interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when its taskbar is displayed. With all of that out of the way, I have a little information on the side for you and one question. Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse continuing to move. Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE taskbar always shown? Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that run in the taskbar and provide various information such as when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the root cause here as well. Harold Steve Stone wrote: > Please forgive any ignorance of mine demonstrated by this note. Also please > forgive the length of the message. :-) > > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on Jul 7th. I don't know how what > file to look at in the unpack directory to verify what version we are > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. > > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control Center GUI, it is KDE version > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top and to "Auto Hide" with the > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the Animate set fairly low (about 5 ticks > up). > > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item on my Windows task bar and it > takes the whole screen when present. The Alt/Space does not drop down the > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system icon on the left side of the > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the minimize button (icon) on the right > side of the title bar. > > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to the KDE task bar, it pops up > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU load jumps up to float around > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task bar stays up while the mouse is > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I push the minimize button, the CPU > load stays the same. > > This is true even when some other Windows program currently has the focus > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. Alt/Tab from Cygwin/XFree86 to > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by simply moving the mouse over > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not have the active focus. > > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows program) partly over the > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE auto-hide task bar NOT active, there > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar that does NOT activate the KCD > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU load is NOT increased. > > My belief is that the interaction between the KDE auto-hide bar and > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse messages be monitored by the KDE. So > I presume the socket for the X messages must then be getting used by KDE > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the active bar area?". It seems to me > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not determine this. > > I know very little about X messages. Is there something that can be done > about this besides move the task bar to the bottom bar and/or make it not > auto-hide? > > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space combination activate the > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? > > Thank you, > > Steve Stone > > From moins20@ifrance.com Wed Aug 7 14:00:00 2002 From: moins20@ifrance.com (Stephane Poirey) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: <1028620080.3d4f7f30d9476@imp.free.fr> References: <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> <1028568318.3d4eb4febc3af@imp.free.fr> <3D4EBE04.8060407@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020807221658.007efb60@pop.free.fr> Finnaly I've found a very nice workaround : instead of using some dtterm, I work with some "aixterm -v" or "xterm -t" (the last works better). I don't have much time to learn exactly why those terminals are smart enough to understand my AltGr key but they does, so it's enough for me for the moment. Best regards. At 09:48 06/08/02 +0200, you wrote: > >Harold, >My NumLock key is always off, and if I try to put it on before connecting to >the remote host then it's like if my Alt_Gr key was locked down (but it's in >the FAQ :-). > >If I put it on AFTER login in there is no change. > >So in my case playing with NumLock has no good effect. > >Below is an extract of the AIX keyboard definition file. I'm not used to read >those files but it sounds surprising to me as I believed that Mode_switch was >known as "Mod3" and according to those lines it seems to be "Mod2" on AIX, is >it possible ? > >(from /usr/lpp/X11/defaults/xmodmap/Fr_FR/keyboard) >! Modifiers >! --------- >clear Lock >clear Mod1 >clear Mod2 >add Lock = Shift_Lock >add Mod1 = Alt_L >add Mod2 = Mode_switch > > >En r?ponse ? Harold L Hunt II : > >> Stephane, >> >> Have you tried turning 'NumLock' off when you use XDMCP to connect to >> your AIX machine? >> >> NumLock used to be ``server handled'' which means that the X Server sees >> >> that NumLock is pushed and it sends the number keys for the numeric >> keypad; when it sees that NumLock is not pushed, the server sends >> clients the arrow keys, home, end, pg up, pg down, etc. >> >> NumLock was added as a ``modifier key'' within the last few years. This >> >> means that X Clients must check whether NumLock is pushed to determine >> >> how to interpret each key. >> >> The problem here is broken X Server/Xlib/X Clients that check for AltGr >> >> via some sort of check such as: >> if (CapsLock) >> { /* do something */ } >> else if (ScrollLock) >> { /* do something */ } >> else >> { /* assume AltGr is pushed */ } >> >> These broken implementations were written to assume that any modifier >> value equal to or above the highest-known modifier value used at the >> time was the modifier corresponding to the highest-known modifier value >> >> at that time. In other words, if AltGr was modifier 4 then the broken >> >> implementation would treat any modifiers >= 4 as AltGr. NumLock is >> essentially modifer 5 in this case (that's probably not the actual >> value), so 5 >= 4 causes the broken programs to interpret NumLock >> incorrectly. >> >> The strange thing about all of this is that we copied the XFree86-linux >> >> code for keyboard support. That code treats NumLock as a modifier. The >> >> code that we lifted must only be used for certain keyboards or on >> certain platforms because most XFree86-linux users report that the >> problem does not affect them, while AIX, et al are affected. >> >> The main drawback to modifying the numeric keypad key codes when we see >> >> that NumLock is on is that we cannot seem to catch all cases and handle >> >> them properly. That is, we used to translate numeric keypad codes >> before and we never got it quite right. People were always complaining >> >> that some key did not work as it was supposed to. These complaints went >> >> away after we made NumLock a modifier. >> >> So, try turning NumLock off and let us all rejoice if you have >> success. >> >> Harold > > From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Aug 7 14:04:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:04:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Harold, Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort of problems? Thanks, JS. > >Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >people >that made WindowMaker. > >Harold > > > > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing > > problems for users > > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are > > sometimes > > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > > > > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right > > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them > > from opening > > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > JS. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 14:28:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:28:00 -0000 Subject: FW: cygwin question Message-ID: Hi Harold, I am using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE. To be sure that we are clear, the CPU usage I had noted was on the NT box (thus not KDE). I have now run 'top' on the Linux box and the kpanel does not seem to require much time (it jumps up to right below top, drop down and keeps repeating that, but not at a very high cpu demand on the Linux box). Also, the NT CPU time is not 100%, it is jumps to 40% and then oscillates between 40% and 60% every second or so. This behavior is present for both the KDE task bar and the KDE panel bar. If I put the KDE Auto Hide setting at even one click up from the lowest "Delay = small" setting, the NT cpu usage drops dramatically to be 2-7%. It also goes to zero after the minimize icon is clicked. The Speed and Animate settings do not seem to affect the CPU usage much. As long as the mouse is hovering over either the panel bar and/or the title bar (and the Auto Hide is at the shortest delay), the CPU usage is up. This is with no mouse movement, just parked over the panel bar. Steve Stone 503.672.5771 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II > Sent: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:50:14 -0400 > To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com > Subject: Re: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 consumes CPU resources > > Steve, > > Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on > your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a > Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? > > KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... > any problems you have are expected and they are being worked > on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. > > If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session > running on another machine, then we would be somewhat > interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when > its taskbar is displayed. > > > With all of that out of the way, I have a little information > on the side for you and one question. > > Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of > the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it > has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the > mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out > of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you > described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is > the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the > Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after > the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the > Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem > with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse continuing to move. > > Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE > taskbar always shown? > > Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of > whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. > > Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that > run in the taskbar and provide various information such as > when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have > arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden > state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until > the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit > in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar > itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. > > > Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure > whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin > folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the > root cause here as well. > > > Harold > > > Steve Stone wrote: > > > Please forgive any ignorance of mine demonstrated by this > note. Also please > forgive the length of the message. :-) > > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on Jul 7th. I don't > know how what > file to look at in the unpack directory to verify what version we are > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. > > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control Center GUI, it > is KDE version > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top and to "Auto > Hide" with the > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the Animate set fairly low > (about 5 ticks > up). > > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item on my Windows > task bar and it > takes the whole screen when present. The Alt/Space does not > drop down the > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system icon on the left > side of the > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the minimize button > (icon) on the right > side of the title bar. > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to the KDE task > bar, it pops up > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU load jumps up to > float around > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task bar stays up > while the mouse is > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I push the minimize > button, the CPU > load stays the same. > > This is true even when some other Windows program currently > has the focus > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. Alt/Tab from > Cygwin/XFree86 to > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by simply moving > the mouse over > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not have the active focus. > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows program) partly over the > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE auto-hide task bar NOT > active, there > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar that does NOT > activate the KCD > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU load is NOT increased. > > My belief is that the interaction between the KDE auto-hide bar and > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse messages be monitored > by the KDE. So > I presume the socket for the X messages must then be getting > used by KDE > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the active bar area?". > It seems to me > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not determine this. > I know very little about X messages. Is there something that > can be done > about this besides move the task bar to the bottom bar and/or > make it not > auto-hide? > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space combination activate the > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? > > Thank you, > > Steve Stone > > > > > Steve Stone > 503.672.5771 > > From StoneS@esi.com Wed Aug 7 14:48:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide tas kba r active consumes CPU resources Message-ID: Reposted with corrected subject - sorry > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Stone > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:00 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: FW: cygwin question > > > Hi Harold, > > I am using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE. > > To be sure that we are clear, the CPU usage I had noted was > on the NT box (thus not KDE). I have now run 'top' on the > Linux box and the kpanel does not seem to require much time > (it jumps up to right below top, drop down and keeps > repeating that, but not at a very high cpu demand on the > Linux box). Also, the NT CPU time is not 100%, it is jumps > to 40% and then oscillates between 40% and 60% every second or so. > > This behavior is present for both the KDE task bar and the > KDE panel bar. > > If I put the KDE Auto Hide setting at even one click up from > the lowest "Delay = small" setting, the NT cpu usage drops > dramatically to be 2-7%. It also goes to zero after the > minimize icon is clicked. The Speed and Animate settings do > not seem to affect the CPU usage much. > > As long as the mouse is hovering over either the panel bar > and/or the title bar (and the Auto Hide is at the shortest > delay), the CPU usage is up. This is with no mouse movement, > just parked over the panel bar. > > Steve Stone > 503.672.5771 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold L Hunt II > > Sent: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:50:14 -0400 > > To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com > > Subject: Re: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 consumes > CPU resources > > > > Steve, > > > > Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on > > your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a > > Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? > > > > KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... > > any problems you have are expected and they are being worked > > on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. > > > > If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session > > running on another machine, then we would be somewhat > > interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when > > its taskbar is displayed. > > > > > > With all of that out of the way, I have a little information > > on the side for you and one question. > > > > Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of > > the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it > > has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the > > mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out > > of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you > > described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is > > the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the > > Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after > > the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the > > Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem > > with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse > continuing to move. > > > > Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE > > taskbar always shown? > > > > Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of > > whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. > > > > Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that > > run in the taskbar and provide various information such as > > when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have > > arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden > > state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until > > the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit > > in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar > > itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. > > > > > > Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure > > whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin > > folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the > > root cause here as well. > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > Steve Stone wrote: > > > > > > Please forgive any ignorance of mine > demonstrated by this > > note. Also please > > forgive the length of the message. :-) > > > > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on > Jul 7th. I don't > > know how what > > file to look at in the unpack directory to > verify what version we are > > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. > > > > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control > Center GUI, it > > is KDE version > > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top > and to "Auto > > Hide" with the > > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the > Animate set fairly low > > (about 5 ticks > > up). > > > > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item > on my Windows > > task bar and it > > takes the whole screen when present. The > Alt/Space does not > > drop down the > > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system > icon on the left > > side of the > > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the > minimize button > > (icon) on the right > > side of the title bar. > > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to > the KDE task > > bar, it pops up > > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU > load jumps up to > > float around > > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task > bar stays up > > while the mouse is > > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I > push the minimize > > button, the CPU > > load stays the same. > > > > This is true even when some other Windows > program currently > > has the focus > > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. > Alt/Tab from > > Cygwin/XFree86 to > > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by > simply moving > > the mouse over > > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not > have the active focus. > > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows > program) partly over the > > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE > auto-hide task bar NOT > > active, there > > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar > that does NOT > > activate the KCD > > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU > load is NOT increased. > > > > My belief is that the interaction between the > KDE auto-hide bar and > > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse > messages be monitored > > by the KDE. So > > I presume the socket for the X messages must > then be getting > > used by KDE > > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the > active bar area?". > > It seems to me > > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not > determine this. > > I know very little about X messages. Is there > something that > > can be done > > about this besides move the task bar to the > bottom bar and/or > > make it not > > auto-hide? > > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space > combination activate the > > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Steve Stone > > > > > > > > > > Steve Stone > > 503.672.5771 > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 15:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 15:40:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large References: Message-ID: <3D519102.3010806@msu.edu> JS, No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. I just happen to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and how to get everything compiled and packaged. You will have to hope that someone else can answer your question about which window manager to use. Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window manager that is installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install lesstif which includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the openbox window manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe packages. There may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. Harold J S wrote: > Harold, > > Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort > of problems? > > Thanks, > > JS. > >> >> Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >> people >> that made WindowMaker. >> >> Harold > > >> > >> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing >> > problems for users >> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are >> > sometimes >> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. >> > >> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right >> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them >> > from opening >> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. >> > >> > Thanks for any help. >> > >> > JS. >> > >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 7 16:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 16:00:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide taskbar active consumes CPU resources References: Message-ID: <3D5195BA.6020602@msu.edu> Steve, I am logging into a remote Mandrake Linux 8.2 machine with KDE 3.0.2. My Windows 2000 machine is running XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-10. I cannot duplicate the behavior that you describe. Please run, from a Cygwin bash prompt: cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86-xserv Send the results of the above command in to the mailing list so that we know what version of the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server you are running. Also, please tell us what version of KDE you are running. I now suspect that this may have been a problem/bug in versions of KDE prior to at least 3.0.2. You may find that the problem goes away by updating KDE on your Linux machine. Harold Steve Stone wrote: > Reposted with corrected subject - sorry > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Steve Stone >>Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:00 PM >>To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' >>Subject: FW: cygwin question >> >> >>Hi Harold, >> >>I am using XDMCP to logon to a Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE. >> >>To be sure that we are clear, the CPU usage I had noted was >>on the NT box (thus not KDE). I have now run 'top' on the >>Linux box and the kpanel does not seem to require much time >>(it jumps up to right below top, drop down and keeps >>repeating that, but not at a very high cpu demand on the >>Linux box). Also, the NT CPU time is not 100%, it is jumps >>to 40% and then oscillates between 40% and 60% every second or so. >> >>This behavior is present for both the KDE task bar and the >>KDE panel bar. >> >>If I put the KDE Auto Hide setting at even one click up from >>the lowest "Delay = small" setting, the NT cpu usage drops >>dramatically to be 2-7%. It also goes to zero after the >>minimize icon is clicked. The Speed and Animate settings do >>not seem to affect the CPU usage much. >> >>As long as the mouse is hovering over either the panel bar >>and/or the title bar (and the Auto Hide is at the shortest >>delay), the CPU usage is up. This is with no mouse movement, >>just parked over the panel bar. >> >>Steve Stone >>503.672.5771 >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Harold L Hunt II >> > Sent: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:50:14 -0400 >> > To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com >> > Subject: Re: Minimizing Cygwin/XFree86 consumes >>CPU resources >> > >> > Steve, >> > >> > Let me get one thing straight: are you running KDE locally on >> > your Windows machine, or are you using XDMCP to logon to a >> > Linux/UNIX machine that is running KDE? >> > >> > KDE running on Cygwin is nowhere near even a beta release... >> > any problems you have are expected and they are being worked >> > on by the KDE on Cygiwn developers. >> > >> > If, on the other hand, you are simply viewing a KDE session >> > running on another machine, then we would be somewhat >> > interested in figuring out why KDE takes 100% of the CPU when >> > its taskbar is displayed. >> > >> > >> > With all of that out of the way, I have a little information >> > on the side for you and one question. >> > >> > Mouse messages in X are actually initiated by the movement of >> > the mouse. You don't have to poll the mouse to find out if it >> > has moved, you simply wait for a message that says, ``the >> > mouse has moved''. When you move the Windows mouse cursor out >> > of the Cygwin/XFree86 window in the manner that you >> > described, the last mouse message sent to X, hence KDE, is >> > the last valid position that the mouse cursor had in the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 window. No more mouse messages are sent after >> > the Windows mouse cursor leaves the ``client area'' of the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 window, so KDE is not likely having a problem >> > with invalid mouse coordinates or with the mouse >>continuing to move. >> > >> > Question: What happens to the CPU usage if you make the KDE >> > taskbar always shown? >> > >> > Expected answer: The CPU usage jumps to 100%, regardless of >> > whether the mouse is over the KDE taskbar or not. >> > >> > Reasoning: The KDE taskbar can have little ``applets'' that >> > run in the taskbar and provide various information such as >> > when new mail has arrived, when new instant messages have >> > arrived, etc. Many of these programs will catch the hidden >> > state of the taskbar and cease updating their display until >> > the taskbar is shown again. I suspect that the real culprit >> > in taking 100% of the CPU here is either the KDE taskbar >> > itself or one of these applets running in the KDE taskbar. >> > >> > >> > Answer that one question and we will be able to tell for sure >> > whether you are going to have to talk to the KDE on Cygwin >> > folks rather than us :) Plus, I am interested to know the >> > root cause here as well. >> > >> > >> > Harold >> > >> > >> > Steve Stone wrote: >> > >> > >> > Please forgive any ignorance of mine >>demonstrated by this >> > note. Also please >> > forgive the length of the message. :-) >> > >> > We downloaded the newest Cygwin/XFree86 on >>Jul 7th. I don't >> > know how what >> > file to look at in the unpack directory to >>verify what version we are >> > running, but I believe it is 1.3.12-1. >> > >> > I am using KDE (according to the KDE Control >>Center GUI, it >> > is KDE version >> > 1.1.2) and I had the task bar set to the top >>and to "Auto >> > Hide" with the >> > smallest delay, fastest speed, and the >>Animate set fairly low >> > (about 5 ticks >> > up). >> > >> > The Cygwin/XFree86 window is the only X item >>on my Windows >> > task bar and it >> > takes the whole screen when present. The >>Alt/Space does not >> > drop down the >> > System menu (from the Cygwin/XFree86 system >>icon on the left >> > side of the >> > title bar, so I move the mouse up to the >>minimize button >> > (icon) on the right >> > side of the title bar. >> > As the mouse moves over the area assigned to >>the KDE task >> > bar, it pops up >> > (as it should) and the NT Task Manager CPU >>load jumps up to >> > float around >> > 40-60% for the XWin.exe. Then, the KDE task >>bar stays up >> > while the mouse is >> > over the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. When I >>push the minimize >> > button, the CPU >> > load stays the same. >> > >> > This is true even when some other Windows >>program currently >> > has the focus >> > (e.g. Launch Mozilla then Cygwin/XFree86. >>Alt/Tab from >> > Cygwin/XFree86 to >> > Mozilla. The KDE task bar can be activated by >>simply moving >> > the mouse over >> > that area even though Cygwin/XFree86 does not >>have the active focus. >> > Now position the Mozilla (or other Windows >>program) partly over the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 title bar. With the KDE >>auto-hide task bar NOT >> > active, there >> > is a path to the Cygwin/XFree86 title bar >>that does NOT >> > activate the KCD >> > task bar. When minimized like this, the CPU >>load is NOT increased. >> > >> > My belief is that the interaction between the >>KDE auto-hide bar and >> > Cygwin/XFree86 requires that the mouse >>messages be monitored >> > by the KDE. So >> > I presume the socket for the X messages must >>then be getting >> > used by KDE >> > asking "Has the mouse moved away from the >>active bar area?". >> > It seems to me >> > that it has but that Cygwin/XFree86 can not >>determine this. >> > I know very little about X messages. Is there >>something that >> > can be done >> > about this besides move the task bar to the >>bottom bar and/or >> > make it not >> > auto-hide? >> > Also, is there some way to make the Alt/Space >>combination activate the >> > Cygwin/XFree86 Windows system menu? >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > Steve Stone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Steve Stone >> > 503.672.5771 >> > >> > >> > From cgf@redhat.com Thu Aug 8 02:06:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 02:06:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing cygwin/xfree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide taskbar active consumes CPU resources In-Reply-To: <3D5195BA.6020602@msu.edu> References: <3D5195BA.6020602@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020807224007.GB13110@redhat.com> On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 05:48:42PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >Please run, from a Cygwin bash prompt: >cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86-xserv > >Send the results of the above command in to the mailing list so that we >know what version of the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server you are running. cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv will also provide the same thing. cgf From StoneS@esi.com Thu Aug 8 03:15:00 2002 From: StoneS@esi.com (Steve Stone) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: Minimizing cygwin/xfree86 under NT 4.0 with KDE auto-hide tas kbar active consumes CPU resources Message-ID: The xfree version is XFree86-xserv XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-10.tar.bz2 0 The KDE is 1.1.2 (heh, heh, heh) Linux is redhat 2.2.16-3 So then I tried it on one of the new boxes with KDE 3.0.0-10 and redhat 2.4.18-5 Here what I get is a burst of NT activity (75% cpu) about every 4 seconds for one second. So does appear to be KDE related and requires the KDE taskbar to be docked at the top and to have the shortest delay possible (zero in the new KDE). Seems like this is a KDE thingie and pretty low priority too but I will post over there in case anybody is interested. Thanks for your help! (Sorry that outlook seems to be forcing the post to a new thread) Steve Stone Harold wrote: > Steve, > > I am logging into a remote Mandrake Linux 8.2 > machine with KDE 3.0.2. My Windows 2000 machine > is running XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-10. I cannot > duplicate the behavior that you describe. > > Please run, from a Cygwin bash prompt: > cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86-xserv > > Send the results of the above command in to the > mailing list so that we know what version of the > Cygwin/XFree86 X Server you are running. > > Also, please tell us what version of KDE you are > running. I now suspect that this may have been a > problem/bug in versions of KDE prior to at least > 3.0.2. You may find that the problem goes away by > updating KDE on your Linux machine. > > Harold From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 03:34:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 03:34:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I know this probably seems like a window manager problem but I tried openbox, mwm, twm, fvwm2 and all suffered the same problem as window maker. >JS, > >No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. > >As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. I just happen >to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and how to get >everything compiled and packaged. > >You will have to hope that someone else can answer your question about >which window manager to use. > >Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window manager that is >installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install lesstif which >includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the openbox window >manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe packages. There >may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Harold, >> >>Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort of >>problems? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>> >>>Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >>>people >>>that made WindowMaker. >>> >>>Harold >> >> >>> > >>> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing >>> > problems for users >>> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are >>> > sometimes >>> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. >>> > >>> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using >>>ALT+left/right >>> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them >>> > from opening >>> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. >>> > >>> > Thanks for any help. >>> > >>> > JS. >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Aug 8 03:42:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 03:42:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A48B@ldnisp14.evolution.net> I've had this problem using XFree86 on linux, eXceed on NT and Xfree86 on Win2000. I've also had native windows windows open at silly sizes (especially on machines with autohide tool bars). It's a window manager / application problem. For some reason for application thinks that it should open a masive window. This might be because of ... * It remembered the last size the app was open - maybe from a display at a higher resolution * It wants to display a big table or something so opens a bigger window * It's got itself well and truely confused. Doesn't really help you ;( Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: J S [mailto:vervoom@hotmail.com] > Sent: 08 August 2002 10:07 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large > > > I know this probably seems like a window manager problem but I tried > openbox, mwm, twm, fvwm2 and all suffered the same problem as > window maker. > > > >JS, > > > >No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. > > > >As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. > I just happen > >to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and > how to get > >everything compiled and packaged. > > > >You will have to hope that someone else can answer your > question about > >which window manager to use. > > > >Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window > manager that is > >installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install > lesstif which > >includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the > openbox window > >manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe > packages. There > >may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. > > > >Harold > > > >J S wrote: > >>Harold, > >> > >>Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have > these sort of > >>problems? > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>JS. > >> > >>> > >>>Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should > probably ask the > >>>people > >>>that made WindowMaker. > >>> > >>>Harold > >> > >> > >>> > > >>> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing > >>> > problems for users > >>> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these > windows are > >>> > sometimes > >>> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > >>> > > >>> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using > >>>ALT+left/right > >>> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them > >>> > from opening > >>> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks for any help. > >>> > > >>> > JS. > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > >> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 8 04:19:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 04:19:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, J S wrote: > I know this probably seems like a window manager problem but I tried > openbox, mwm, twm, fvwm2 and all suffered the same problem as window maker. I don't think you'll find a wm, which handles this in another way. The defautl behaviour of all wm i know, is to display the window in the size the program requested. If for example Netscape is started and wants to display the window in 1600x1200, but the screen is only 800x600, you will only see 1/4 of the actual display. With fvwm, the other parts of the window are displayed on the surrounding virtual desktops and you can switch to these desktops. But the only solution for you problem is: Set the diplay resolution to a higher value. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 04:33:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 04:33:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will constrain the windows within the screen? JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Thu Aug 8 05:09:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B407794A4F@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> FWIW, the mwm window manager documentation lists an "Appearance and Behavior Resource" named "maximumMaximumSize" which "Specifies the maximum size of a client window (as set by the user or client). Takes a value of widthxheight (e.g.,1024x1024) where width and eight are in pixels. The default is twice the screen width and height." Now, the mwm available to run under Cygwin/XFree86 is the Lesstif version, which is supposed to be "functionally equivalent", but *does* differ in many areas from the official Motif version. The distributed app-defaults file lists this resource in a section commented as: !! !! not tracked yet. Some are implemented, but you can't change the default !! behavior. !! On the other hand, this app-defaults shows a version control tag of: !! $Id: Mwm.ad,v 1.2 2001/10/27 18:32:58 amai Exp $ BTW, this resource can be set in your .Xdefaults file (as well as a number of other places) as: Mwm*maximumMaximumSize: 1024x1024 I have not tried this feature of mwm. Good luck. -D. --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 -----Original Message----- From: J S [mailto:vervoom@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:43 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will constrain the windows within the screen? JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Thu Aug 8 05:31:00 2002 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 05:31:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large References: Message-ID: <3D5256F6.E7B5A08E@imec.be> J S wrote: > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will constrain > the windows within the screen? X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a -geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the top level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' and look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. Staf. From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 06:21:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 06:21:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I have just tried running this application from a Linux box (using KDE) and the windows were all fitted to the screen. >J S wrote: > > > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >constrain > > the windows within the screen? > >X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >top >level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >and >look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From seterajunk@charter.net Thu Aug 8 06:33:00 2002 From: seterajunk@charter.net (CRAIG SETERA) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 06:33:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? Message-ID: I'm not even close to an expert with all of the pieces that make up XFree and *nix utilities. I would like to create a Windows shortcut (to a bat file or whatever) that does the following: - Starts up XFree - Uses ssh with X forwarding to launch a kde desktop on my linux box. I can do this step by step, but it is a lot of commands to get right each time. I just can't seem to get a set of commands to automate it. In addition, it would be nice if I didn't end up with a bunch of extra command/console windows. Essentially I want a way to lauch a KDE desktop on my linux box quickly and easily. Thanks, Craig PS - I tried to get xdm/kdm/gdm working, but could never get my linux box to "answer" me. From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 07:15:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:15:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Does X start up with the -geometry option? or is that option for the applications that run within X? >J S wrote: > > > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >constrain > > the windows within the screen? > >X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >top >level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >and >look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Thu Aug 8 07:24:00 2002 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:24:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large References: Message-ID: <3D5272DF.8E758766@imec.be> J S wrote: > > Does X start up with the -geometry option? or is that option for the > applications that run within X? You can specify it for every program that you run (if they are standard compliant). Please read 'man X' on a linux box there are examples with a few programs in the GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION section. Staf. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 8 07:42:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:42:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, CRAIG SETERA wrote: > - Starts up XFree > - Uses ssh with X forwarding to launch a kde desktop on my > linux box. > > Essentially I want a way to lauch a KDE desktop > on my linux box quickly and easily. XWin -query? > > PS - I tried to get xdm/kdm/gdm working, but could never > get my linux box to "answer" me. Please check /etc/X11/xdm-config if "DisplayManager.requestPort" is set to 0. If so, comment that line out (add ! before that line) bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 08:33:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:33:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I ran the app on the Linux WindowMaker and got the same problem so Harold was right it is a window manager problem. >From: Staf Verhaegen >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:32:15 +0200 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by >mc1-f5.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 8 Aug >2002 06:33:16 -0700 >Received: (qmail 6911 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 2002 13:33:13 -0000 >Received: (qmail 6575 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2002 13:32:17 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO dmz2.imec.be) (146.103.254.12) by >sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 13:32:17 -0000 >Received: from e2k01.imec.be (e2k01.imec.be [146.103.0.4])by dmz2.imec.be >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15645for ; Thu, 8 >Aug 2002 15:32:16 +0200 >Received: from imec.be ([146.103.8.147]) by e2k01.imec.be with Microsoft >SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:32:15 +0200 >Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Subscribe: >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: , > >Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Message-ID: <3D5272DF.8E758766@imec.be> >Organization: IMEC vzw >X-Accept-Language: nl-BE, en >References: >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2002 13:32:15.0614 (UTC) >FILETIME=[028C49E0:01C23EE0] >Return-Path: cygwin-xfree-return-11085-vervoom=hotmail.com@cygwin.com > >J S wrote: > > > > Does X start up with the -geometry option? or is that option for the > > applications that run within X? > >You can specify it for every program that you run (if they are standard >compliant). >Please read 'man X' on a linux box there are examples with a few programs >in >the GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION section. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From tntactive@msn.com Thu Aug 8 08:55:00 2002 From: tntactive@msn.com (TNT Group ) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:55:00 -0000 Subject: Enjoy yourself like me Message-ID: Hi Dear Sir, I became a member of an interesting free website which is totally unique. 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Thanks, TNT Group Member ID# AHF373 From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 09:03:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:03:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: FWIW. I've found the best solution for me is to run the Window Manager on the remote machine. Performance and compatibility are much better than running a Cygwin-ported Window Manager locally. You can do this even if you aren't using a Display Manager (like XDM) with a command-line which looks something like this: rsh remotehostname mwm -display localhostname:0 Put it in your preferred XWin startup script (e.g. startxwin.bat or .xinitrc). Works great. >From: Harold L Hunt II >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 17:28:34 -0400 > >JS, > >No, sorry, I can't recommend a window manager. > >As I have said before, I am a terrible X Window System user. I just happen >to be able to understand how to implement the X Server and how to get >everything compiled and packaged. > >You will have to hope that someone else can answer your question about >which window manager to use. > >Just as a side note: You can stick with the TWM window manager that is >installed with the XFree86-bin package, or you can install lesstif which >includes the MWM window manager, or you can install the openbox window >manager. All of these are available as Cygwin setup.exe packages. There >may be one or two that I am forgetting as well. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Harold, >> >>Can you recommend a decent window manager that doesn't have these sort of >>problems? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>> >>>Sounds like a WindowMaker problem to me. You should probably ask the >>>people >>>that made WindowMaker. >>> >>>Harold >> >> >>> > >>> > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing >>> > problems for users >>> > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are >>> > sometimes >>> > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. >>> > >>> > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using >>>ALT+left/right >>> > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them >>> > from opening >>> > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. >>> > >>> > Thanks for any help. >>> > >>> > JS. >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From charkins@upl.cs.wisc.edu Thu Aug 8 11:18:00 2002 From: charkins@upl.cs.wisc.edu (Casey Harkins) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: [wm-user] x-windows opening up too large In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What application are you running? Most X applications allow you to pass a geometry string on the command line to specify a location and width and height. For example, to start xcalc with a width of 200 pixels, height of 300 pixels and positioned in the upper left corner: "xcalc -geometry 200x300+0+0" Or to position it in the lower right use: "xcalc -geometry 200x300-0-0" Or 10 pixels from the left and 20 pixels from the bottom: "xcalc -geometry 200x300+10-20" Keep in mind that the width and height specified do not include the window decorations added by the window manager. So if you use width and height == to screen resolution, the application will be slightly larger than the screen. Hope this helps. -casey On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, J S wrote: > An X application we run on xfree86-windowmaker is causing problems for users > at my work because when it pops up new windows, these windows are sometimes > too big to fit on the screen, or the scrollbar is missing. > > Is there something I can do to fix this other than using ALT+left/right > mouse clicks to resize these windows or better still stop them from opening > up so large? Incidentally this problem doesn't happen on Exceed. > > Thanks for any help. > > JS. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > INFO: https://windowmaker.org/lists/listinfo/wm-user > ARCHIVE: http://windowmaker.org/lists/archive/wm-user/ > FAQ: http://windowmaker.org/faq.html > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 11:47:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:47:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Usage of the -geometry flag looks like the following: xterm -geometry 80x35+100+100 This creates an xterm which is 80 columns wide and 35 rows tall positioned 100 pixels down from the top edge and 100 in from the left edge of the screen. One thing you can do is manually size and position the client window the way you like it, then run "xwininfo". It will give you the corresponding -geometry value to use in the future. >From: Staf Verhaegen >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:33:10 +0200 > >J S wrote: > > > > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >constrain > > the windows within the screen? > >X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >top >level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >and >look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. > >Staf. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dean.bishop@tcdsb.org Thu Aug 8 11:50:00 2002 From: dean.bishop@tcdsb.org (Bishop, Dean) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Message-ID: Good morning, i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This same site works fine when i use the machine locally. this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. Any thoughts on how to rectify this? thanks in advance, dean From seterajunk@charter.net Thu Aug 8 12:13:00 2002 From: seterajunk@charter.net (CRAIG SETERA) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:13:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? Message-ID: I've already tried all of the different HOWTO's to try and get XDM going without any success. That was why I was hoping someone could give me a command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. Thanks, Craig From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 8 12:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site References: Message-ID: <3D52BD82.1000904@msu.edu> Dean, I think your best bet would be to contact the Mozilla project. You didn't mention Cygwin/XFree86 in your post, so I am guessing that you posted here by mistake. Harold Bishop, Dean wrote: >Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web >site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This >same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, >but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? > >thanks in advance, >dean > > From dean.bishop@tcdsb.org Thu Aug 8 12:46:00 2002 From: dean.bishop@tcdsb.org (Bishop, Dean) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:46:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Message-ID: Sorry. i guess i implied but didn't state that this problem occurs only when i attempt to browse shockwave enabled web sites while using cygwin/xfree to connect to my remote linux box (on which i am attempting to browse). Also, as i mentioned, if i actually go to the linux box and browse while logged into that machine, i have no problem with the same sites that didn't work through cygwin/xfree i hope that this clarifies thangs. regards, dean -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:51 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Dean, I think your best bet would be to contact the Mozilla project. You didn't mention Cygwin/XFree86 in your post, so I am guessing that you posted here by mistake. Harold Bishop, Dean wrote: >Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web >site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This >same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, >but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? > >thanks in advance, >dean > > From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 8 14:35:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:35:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. This is a netscape/mozilla vs. flash problem. It only occurs when X is used over network. Turnoff Flash. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 15:11:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:11:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: Thanks Thomas, I'll try your ideas out tomorrow when I goto work but I just wanted to say that the geometry flag is fine for the main application window running, it's the windows that pop up from that which I don't seem to have any control over. But running the window manager on the remote machine sounds like a good idea - I'll give that a go, but surely that will be slower won't it? > >Usage of the -geometry flag looks like the following: > >xterm -geometry 80x35+100+100 > >This creates an xterm which is 80 columns wide and 35 rows tall positioned >100 pixels down from the top edge and 100 in from the left edge of the >screen. > >One thing you can do is manually size and position the client window the >way you like it, then run "xwininfo". It will give you the corresponding >-geometry value to use in the future. > >>From: Staf Verhaegen >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >>Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:33:10 +0200 >> >>J S wrote: >> > >> > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >>constrain >> > the windows within the screen? >> >>X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >>-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >>top >>level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >>and >>look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. >> >>Staf. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From kostya@rice.edu Thu Aug 8 15:21:00 2002 From: kostya@rice.edu (Konstantin N. Kudin) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: How to disable mouse wheel (buttons) Message-ID: Hi everybody I am trying to disable a mouse wheel under cygwin/xfree and can't find anything anywhere on how to do that. Basically, the wheel acts like buttons 2, 4, and 5. Scrolling the wheel is translated into buttons 4 and 5, and that crashes one of my applications. I would like to simply disable that under cygwin/xfree and keep it elsewhere (under Windows). However, there seem to be no file XF86config anywhere which could be used to set the number of buttons to 3. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Regards, Konstantin Kudin From ratmice@yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 18:04:00 2002 From: ratmice@yahoo.com (ratmice) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 18:04:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? References: Message-ID: <3D52EB72.20700@yahoo.com> CRAIG SETERA wrote: > I've already tried all of the different HOWTO's to try and get XDM going > without any success. That was why I was hoping someone could give me a > command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. > > Thanks, > Craig > just hacked this out... it isn't ideal and requires... modification of the source... it's based off an old x example xxterm.c, which was in the kdevelop examples modify the machines at the beginning to your network gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o sxterm sxterm.c -lX11 ./xsterm it has 2 arguments, username and remote_command if you want to run things w/ 2 different usernames you might fix it.. or run xsterm twice :) oh my command line parsing is badness, and if you want to use option 2, you should also provide option 1 ie this works for me xsterm matt /usr/X11R6/bin/xeyes -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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That was why I was hoping someone could give me a > command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. > > Thanks, > Craig > just hacked this out... it isn't ideal and requires... modification of the source... it's based off an old x example xxterm.c, which was in the kdevelop examples modify the machines at the beginning to your network gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o xsterm xsterm.c ./xsterm it has 2 optional arguments, username and remote_command if you want to run things w/ 2 different usernames you might fix it.. or run xsterm twice :) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xsterm.c URL: From pantao@fortunesoft.net Thu Aug 8 18:51:00 2002 From: pantao@fortunesoft.net (pantao) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 18:51:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <004801c23f40$eef2edb0$7514a8c0@pantao> hi, all I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up next time. Is it so? 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why is it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. thanks, PanTao From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 8 21:10:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 21:10:00 -0000 Subject: How to disable mouse wheel (buttons) References: Message-ID: <3D5319B1.8030608@msu.edu> Konstantin, Congratulations, you are the first person to ever request that the mouse wheel support be turned off. :) We have not yet had a request for such a feature. I will add this to the to-do list. Jehan, you want to work on this one? Harold Konstantin N. Kudin wrote: > Hi everybody > > I am trying to disable a mouse wheel under cygwin/xfree and can't find >anything anywhere on how to do that. Basically, the wheel acts like >buttons 2, 4, and 5. Scrolling the wheel is translated into buttons 4 and >5, and that crashes one of my applications. I would like to simply disable >that under cygwin/xfree and keep it elsewhere (under Windows). However, >there seem to be no file XF86config anywhere which could be used to set >the number of buttons to 3. > > Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Regards, > Konstantin Kudin > > > > From bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us Thu Aug 8 23:46:00 2002 From: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us (Tom Bozack) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 23:46:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site References: Message-ID: <3D531FB4.6060101@ridgecrest.ca.us> Dean I have the same problem. It occurs using both cygwin/XFree86 and Linux/XFree86 to access the server. This indicates that it's either a problem inherent to XFree86 (not just the cygwin port) or more likely is a Mozilla/Netscape/Shockwave problem. Either way, it's really anoying and I hope someone tracks it down and fixes it. Tom Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? > > thanks in advance, > dean > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Fri Aug 9 01:24:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 01:24:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin.bat and PATH Message-ID: <20020809041032.19425.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Hi list, I want to launch X at startup on my WIN NT station at work because I use many unix machines. This way I set a windows shortcut to startxwin.bat and the server starts. But PATH isn't set correct, as startxwin.bat only defines /usr/X11R6/bin and /bin (and normal windows %PATH%) I suggest this (changed this on my machine whithout problems): add "-i -l" to the xterm line to set the shell interactive and login shell. REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash -i -l ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Fri Aug 9 02:36:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 02:36:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12 Message-ID: <3D536560.DDAD4B65@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Hello. I've download and install the "Experimental" version XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12. And wen I sart XWin with my usual command line : start /B XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query mimosa -once -nodecoration -lesspointer It removes my file /tmp/fr.xkm, and start with us keyboard. Is it normal ? I've reinstall the "Current" version 4.2.0-10 and everything is ok. Gilles From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 02:40:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 02:40:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: I think I finally found out what the problem is now. The application will only run on the Solaris desktop window manager (dtwm). So if I run dtwm on XFree86, the application windows are fine. Thanks everyone for your help. JS. > >Usage of the -geometry flag looks like the following: > >xterm -geometry 80x35+100+100 > >This creates an xterm which is 80 columns wide and 35 rows tall positioned >100 pixels down from the top edge and 100 in from the left edge of the >screen. > >One thing you can do is manually size and position the client window the >way you like it, then run "xwininfo". It will give you the corresponding >-geometry value to use in the future. > >>From: Staf Verhaegen >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >>Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:33:10 +0200 >> >>J S wrote: >> > >> > Are there any options I can put in the .Xresources file which will >>constrain >> > the windows within the screen? >> >>X programs that conform to the X standard calling convention support a >>-geometry option that allows to define the size and the placement of the >>top >>level window to create. The format should be available when typing 'man X' >>and >>look for GEOMETRY SPECIFICATION. >> >>Staf. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 9 03:54:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 03:54:00 -0000 Subject: some question In-Reply-To: <004801c23f40$eef2edb0$7514a8c0@pantao> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > > I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: > > 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some > access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up > next time. Is it so? Yes. After you log off, the next user logging in should not be affected by your access settings. > 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is > no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why > is > it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. Man Xserver -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci? fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man? ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. What you want is -indirect bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 9 03:56:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12 In-Reply-To: <3D536560.DDAD4B65@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, gilles civario wrote: > > Hello. > I've download and install the "Experimental" version XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12. > And wen I sart XWin with my usual command line : > start /B XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query mimosa -once -nodecoration -lesspointer > It removes my file /tmp/fr.xkm, and start with us keyboard. > Is it normal ? I guess it creates a new keymap from the settings in /etc/X11/XF86Config or the defaults and overwrites the keymap. You can set the requested layout in /etc/X11/XF86Config. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pantao_fz@21cn.com Fri Aug 9 04:04:00 2002 From: pantao_fz@21cn.com (PAN TAO) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <03e001c23f93$5c0bba10$7514a8c0@pantao> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: some question On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > > I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: > > 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some > access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up > next time. Is it so? Yes. After you log off, the next user logging in should not be affected by your access settings. > 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is > no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why > is > it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. Man Xserver -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci?? fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man?? ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. What you want is -indirect bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pantao_fz@21cn.com Fri Aug 9 06:39:00 2002 From: pantao_fz@21cn.com (PAN TAO) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 06:39:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <03e701c23f93$a8ea3960$7514a8c0@pantao> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: some question On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > > I am trying to use cygwin/xfree and have some question: > > 1) It seems that xhost doesn't persist save the result. While I set up some > access control, It seems the setting is not effective when X server start up > next time. Is it so? Yes. After you log off, the next user logging in should not be affected by your access settings. > 2) While I use xwin -broadcast to start a broadcast XDMCP session, there is > no server list pop up, xwin dirrectly connect to a sco unixware server, why > is > it so? If I use other X server, there are a list of servers. Man Xserver -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci?? fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man?? ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. What you want is -indirect --- bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pantao_fz@21cn.com Fri Aug 9 06:48:00 2002 From: pantao_fz@21cn.com (PAN TAO) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 06:48:00 -0000 Subject: some question References: Message-ID: <03fe01c23f94$b377fc90$7514a8c0@pantao> Hi, ago Thanks for you answer, I see now. But for broadcast request, some windows X server (such as exceed), x-win32 will show a list of the servers which send by the reply and let the user select one, so I felt a little change about XFree86, and I know it now. Thanks and regards, PanTao BTW: sorry for last NULL reply mail for my wrong operation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: some question On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, pantao wrote: > hi, all > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 06:58:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 06:58:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows opening up too large Message-ID: >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:46:33 +0000 > >Thanks Thomas, > >I'll try your ideas out tomorrow when I goto work but I just wanted to say >that the geometry flag is fine for the main application window running, >it's the windows that pop up from that which I don't seem to have any >control over. Look at the documentation for that client program. Almost all X clients have something called "Resources", which allow you to control the behavior of the program. You put them in a file called .Xdefaults in your home directory. >But running the window manager on the remote machine sounds like a good >idea - I'll give that a go, but surely that will be slower won't it? That's what I thought. But after some experimentation, I found that running mwm remotely was much faster than fvwm2, WindowMaker, or leffTif/mwm locally (I don't care for twm, so I didn't evaluate that option). I'm sure your experience may be different since it depends upon how fast the machine is at either end of the "pipe", and how fast the LAN is in between. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 09:41:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: GNU emacs 21.2-1 Message-ID: >From: "Joseph H. Buehler" >Reply-To: jbuehler@hekimian.com >To: cygwin-announce@cygwin.com >Subject: GNU emacs 21.2-1 >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 21:37:00 -0400 > >Cygwin packages have just been uploaded for GNU emacs 21.2. Both X11 and >non-X modes work. Shell buffers work, as does compile mode and dired mode. > >There are some problems with telnet and ange-ftp and gnus -- they don't >work >with the version of cygwin1.dll I am using, anyway. I don't know what >the problem is yet, it appears to be some problem with select(). > >Undumping is also not implemented yet, but I'll work on it. > >Joe Buehler FWIW, I ran into a problem with select() in a package I ported to Cygwin/XFree86 called x2x. I eventually ironed it out. The whole discussion is in the cygwin-xfree ML archive for July, 2002: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/ Search on "x2x". _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 9 09:50:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:50:00 -0000 Subject: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? Message-ID: This has come up a number of times recently. Look in the archives for July, 2002: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07 Search for the following subjects: "scripting using Xterm ssh" "need help scripting multiple xfree startups" "Your help please..." >From: "CRAIG SETERA" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: Easy command to launch remote desktop on cygwin-xfree? >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:46:49 -0400 > >I've already tried all of the different HOWTO's to try and get XDM going >without any success. That was why I was hoping someone could give me a >command or two to get it going via SSH forwarding. > >Thanks, >Craig _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Aug 9 10:01:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:01:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <3D4FD9B2.7080500@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020809164105.3753.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> --- Brian Genisio wrote: > Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > > Hi Stuart, > > > > > >>Stuart Adamson wrote: > >> > >>>>I thought it would be neat if there were a way to run a Java > app > >>>>in Windows, and display on an X server. > >>> > > > > A quick web search on "Java", "X11" points me to > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ . Sounds interesting. > > > > > > so long, benny > > > > > > Yeah, that does sound interesting... It looks more like a Java > interface > to the X libraries. I can see how this would be extremely useful. > > Unfortunately, what I am looking for (just peeking for time being), > is > the existence of a VM that supports this functionality, like the > *nix > versions do. It would be neat to run the java VM with a flag that > used > the X protocol instead. > > Want in one hand, and shit in annother... see which fills up > quicker. Well, I can't make any promises, but I've been kicking around the notion of porting the Sun Community Sources version of java to Cygwin/XFree. Currently, my first hurdle is to get OpenMOTIF fully ported, as the jdk won't compile with lesstif. There are some licensing issues regarding that, but I really don't give a damn what the Open Group says. So, once that's done, then comes the hard part. We'll see how far along cygwin's threading capabilities are, as that is probably the most worrisome aspect. Currently, there has been much work done in progressing sysV IPC, so when the time comes it should be ready to roll. Hopefully I can get a useful vm out of it, but it's really just for fun. Anyhow, swing and awt support is just plain dreadful, if not non-existent, in the various gpl'd vms. So, I don't need to be reminded about them, because they are frankly useless. Since I'm not about to write the X11 interface from the ground up, I figure this would be the best bet. Besides, who knows, if this is successful I might submit my build to Sun and see if they'll allow redistribution. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From WhiteG@dfo-mpo.gc.ca Fri Aug 9 10:03:00 2002 From: WhiteG@dfo-mpo.gc.ca (George N. White III) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:03:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? I have the same problem using my SGI X-server with mozilla/netscape and also with a linux box that lacks a sound card. This suggests that cygwin-xfree is a faithful simulation of "real" X-servers. I suspect the problem is that the X audio extension is missing and or not supported by shockwave, and that shockwave doesn't handle missing audio support properly. -- George N. White III Bedford Institute of Oceanography From john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com Fri Aug 9 12:54:00 2002 From: john.r.morrison@ntlworld.com (John Morrison) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:54:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: <20020809164105.3753.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ooh, if you need anyone to help test! I will! I've been wanting somebody to do this since I started cygwin and Java development! > From: Nicholas Wourms > > Well, I can't make any promises, but I've been kicking around the > notion of porting the Sun Community Sources version of java to > Cygwin/XFree. Currently, my first hurdle is to get OpenMOTIF fully > ported, as the jdk won't compile with lesstif. There are some > licensing issues regarding that, but I really don't give a damn what > the Open Group says. So, once that's done, then comes the hard part. > We'll see how far along cygwin's threading capabilities are, as that > is probably the most worrisome aspect. Currently, there has been > much work done in progressing sysV IPC, so when the time comes it > should be ready to roll. Hopefully I can get a useful vm out of it, > but it's really just for fun. Anyhow, swing and awt support is just > plain dreadful, if not non-existent, in the various gpl'd vms. So, I > don't need to be reminded about them, because they are frankly > useless. Since I'm not about to write the X11 interface from the > ground up, I figure this would be the best bet. Besides, who knows, > if this is successful I might submit my build to Sun and see if > they'll allow redistribution. > > Cheers, > Nicholas From bitlov@ibelgique.com Sat Aug 10 00:41:00 2002 From: bitlov@ibelgique.com (bitlov) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 00:41:00 -0000 Subject: numlock misfunctionning Message-ID: <001b01c23fc6$b3371040$0a001fac@whisper> Hi, I have a belgian keyboard and I have my Numlock key that is misfunctionning under xfree via xdmcp. I have look the archives but I haven't found a clear solution. When numlock is off, the keypad functions as if it was pressed but the insert, delete, home, end, pgUp, pgDn and the arrows functions correctly. When numlock is on, the keypad functions correctly but the insert, delete, home, end, pgUp, pgDn and the arrows are all shifted (Shift_L). What should I change in my xmodmap file? Thanks, -bitlov Here is the xmodmap file I use. clear Mod1 clear Mod2 keycode 8 = keycode 9 = Escape keycode 10 = ampersand 1 bar keycode 11 = eacute 2 at keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft keycode 14 = parenleft 5 keycode 15 = section 6 asciicircum keycode 16 = egrave 7 keycode 17 = exclam 8 keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 braceleft keycode 19 = agrave 0 braceright keycode 20 = parenright degree keycode 21 = minus underscore keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 23 = Tab keycode 24 = a keycode 25 = z keycode 26 = e E currency keycode 27 = r keycode 28 = t keycode 29 = y keycode 30 = u keycode 31 = i keycode 32 = o keycode 33 = p keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis bracketleft keycode 35 = dollar asterisk bracketright keycode 36 = Return keycode 37 = Control_L keycode 38 = q keycode 39 = s keycode 40 = d keycode 41 = f keycode 42 = g keycode 43 = h keycode 44 = j keycode 45 = k keycode 46 = l keycode 47 = m keycode 48 = ugrave percent dead_acute acute keycode 49 = twosuperior threesuperior keycode 50 = Shift_L keycode 51 = mu sterling dead_grave grave keycode 52 = w keycode 53 = x keycode 54 = c keycode 55 = v keycode 56 = b keycode 57 = n keycode 58 = comma question dead_cedilla keycode 59 = semicolon period keycode 60 = colon slash Multi_key keycode 61 = equal plus dead_tilde asciitilde keycode 62 = Shift_R keycode 63 = KP_Multiply keycode 64 = Alt_L keycode 65 = space keycode 66 = Caps_Lock keycode 67 = F1 F11 keycode 68 = F2 F12 keycode 69 = F3 F13 keycode 70 = F4 F14 keycode 71 = F5 F15 keycode 72 = F6 F16 keycode 73 = F7 F17 keycode 74 = F8 F18 keycode 75 = F9 F19 keycode 76 = F10 F20 keycode 77 = Num_Lock keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock keycode 79 = KP_7 KP_Home keycode 80 = KP_8 KP_Up keycode 81 = KP_9 KP_Prior keycode 82 = KP_Subtract keycode 83 = KP_4 KP_Left keycode 84 = KP_5 KP_Begin keycode 85 = KP_6 KP_Right keycode 86 = KP_Add keycode 87 = KP_1 KP_End keycode 88 = KP_2 KP_Down keycode 89 = KP_3 KP_Next keycode 90 = KP_0 KP_Insert keycode 91 = KP_Decimal KP_Delete keycode 92 = 0x1007ff00 keycode 93 = keycode 94 = less greater backslash keycode 95 = F11 keycode 96 = F12 keycode 97 = Home keycode 98 = Up keycode 99 = Prior keycode 100 = Left keycode 101 = Begin keycode 102 = Right keycode 103 = End keycode 104 = Down keycode 105 = Next keycode 106 = Insert keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 110 = Pause keycode 111 = Print keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch keycode 114 = Break keycode 116 = Mode_switch keycode 117 = Multi_key add Mod1 = Alt_L add Mod2 = Mode_switch From nwourms@yahoo.com Sat Aug 10 01:41:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 01:41:00 -0000 Subject: Java in Windows on X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020809195435.8462.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> --- John Morrison wrote: > Ooh, if you need anyone to help test! I will! I've > been wanting somebody to do this since I started cygwin > and Java development! > Well I'll see what I can do. Last time I was working on it, I was battling bad arrays and structs which couldn't be autoimported by ld... PITA time :-). I'll let you know, but as I said this is a side project and my plate is fairly full with current cygwin obligations such as QT, bdb, and rpm. Although, when I do get something going, I sure could use a hand, as this is going to require some major munging of the source files to figure out which WIN32 defines should stay and which should go. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Sat Aug 10 03:15:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: Imakefile.c:9: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory Message-ID: I am having some trouble creating the xrn newsreader Makefile with xmkmf (error in Subject line). >From reading the man page I know the "missing" file is the "master template file" but a) that's about as much as I do know, and b) there is no such file anywhere on my machine. Is this something I need to generate, or what? If so, how, please? TIA From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Sun Aug 11 07:33:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: Imakefile.c:9: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory Message-ID: Ach. Forget it. I think I just found it. The google search I did against the cygwin site did not show the package contents (its in the headers pkg). -- Gary From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Mon Aug 12 11:45:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:45:00 -0000 Subject: More xrn build woes Message-ID: Hmm. I'm still trying to build xrn. $ xmkmf mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config In file included from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl:1845, from Imakefile.c:9: /tmp/IIf.576279:312: unterminated `#ifdef' conditional imake: Exit code 1. Stop. However: $ cat -n /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl [snip] 1843 XCOMM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1844 XCOMM start of Imakefile 1845 #include INCLUDE_IMAKEFILE [snip] $ cat -n Imakefile [snip] 312 #ifdef MOTIF 313 TKSED= -e 's/MOTIF//' -e '/XAW/d' -e 's/notify()/Activate()/' \ 314 -e 's/unset()/Disarm()/' -e 's/set()/Arm()/' \ 315 -e 's/\([*.]\)label:/\1labelString:/' \ 316 -e 's/no-op(RingBell/beep(/' \ 317 -e 's/\.\([^.]*\)\.baseTranslations/*\1*translations/' \ 318 -e 's/baseTranslations/translations/' \ 319 -e 's/>Down/>osfDown/' -e 's/>Up/>osfUp/' \ 320 -e 's/>Left/>osfLeft/' -e 's/>Right/>osfRight/' 321 #else 322 TKSED= -e 's/XAW//' -e '/MOTIF/d' 323 #endif [snip] IOW, it looks like there /is/ a terminating #endif so what's likely to be wrong? If I comment out th entire #ifdef block I then get a complaint that there is an "unterminated '#if' conditional" at line 247 (again, the terminator seems to be there okay). From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Mon Aug 12 12:05:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:05:00 -0000 Subject: GDB, for XFree??? Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to debug an X application with GDB, more specifically, a wxWindows application running under Cygwin Xfree. The problem is that if I invoke my application inside X, by typing "gdb app.exe", a Windows application (GDB) pops up with my app loaded in it, but then my application never seems to be able to run. Is there a trick to this, or is GDB only for character mode applications? Thanks. From ratmice@yahoo.com Mon Aug 12 14:43:00 2002 From: ratmice@yahoo.com (Matt Rice) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: gdb for X Message-ID: <20020812184518.5951.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I generally use DDD under linux/X this morning I compiled it, the only thing I had to install which I hadn't already (was flex) X applications tend to run in a loop, so I set breakpoints and continue and use printf and hit continue or next and skip a bunch of times.. note, it doesn't understand .exe so you have to use the full path to your executable. opening GDB Settings will work, then send ddd into an endless loop.. i'm sure there's probably more problems.. but it's debugging stuff matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dean.bishop@tcdsb.org Mon Aug 12 22:39:00 2002 From: dean.bishop@tcdsb.org (Bishop, Dean) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 22:39:00 -0000 Subject: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site Message-ID: hmmm. this is an interesting, and plausable theory. Is it concievable that one of those network audio services might solve this problem? thanks again, dean -----Original Message----- From: George N. White III [mailto:WhiteG@dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:46 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: mozilla/netscape die when on a shockwave enabled web site On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Bishop, Dean wrote: > Good morning, > > i have been running into a bit of a problem in that whenever i visit a web > site that has shockwave content, the browser just dies a quiet death. This > same site works fine when i use the machine locally. > this occurs in both mozilla and netscape (various versions). > i tried removing the shockwave plugin and the browsers didn't die anymore, > but i also, obviously, did not get the full content of the web sites. > > Any thoughts on how to rectify this? I have the same problem using my SGI X-server with mozilla/netscape and also with a linux box that lacks a sound card. This suggests that cygwin-xfree is a faithful simulation of "real" X-servers. I suspect the problem is that the X audio extension is missing and or not supported by shockwave, and that shockwave doesn't handle missing audio support properly. -- George N. White III Bedford Institute of Oceanography From ratmice@yahoo.com Tue Aug 13 04:07:00 2002 From: ratmice@yahoo.com (Matt Rice) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: GDB, for XFree??? Message-ID: <20020812214324.36698.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> more notes on ddd forgot the url http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/ it's 22 megabytes... sorry I messed up threading last time, here's my original reply http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-08/msg00135.html cat >>~/.XResources DDD.filterFiles off weird issues opening it from the same XTerm more than once... it seg faults for me on the second try.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From support@rsinc.com Tue Aug 13 04:32:00 2002 From: support@rsinc.com (RSI E-mail Support) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 04:32:00 -0000 Subject: Thank you for your technical support inquiry Message-ID: <910A02699BD53D45A5874E1BA0D6AAECBA854E@atlas.corp.rsinc.com> Dear Valued Customer, Thank you for your inquiry to RSI Technical Support. We make every effort to respond to all calls and e-mails promptly (within eight business hours). 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I would like to run IE and LotusNotes from the U10 (exporting the display) By now I use VNC but having a whole window for all winapps isn't that good... Is there a way (using ssh -X, I guess) to run WinApps from the U10 ? By now, when I do "ssh -X -C winbox notepad", it starts the winapp on the windows display... Even "ssh -X -C winbox ; export DISPLAY=U10 ; notepad", starts notepad on the winbox... What I installed on the winbox is cygwin, ssh and rxvt (not the whole XFree86 project) So, any idea ? Do I have to install the XFree server too ? I noticed even from a local XFree86 server, running notepad doesn't keep in the XFree86 window... Thanks for answers, Jo ************************************************************************** Le contenu de ce message ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Noos sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et Noos. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. 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What you are trying to do will only work for X Applications. Windows applications in general do not speak X, they draw themselves via GDI. If someone were to port the Wine GDI->X conversion library to Cygwin, then what you want to do may become possible (with quite a bit more work). Until then, I'm pretty sure that what you are trying to do is not possible. Rasjid. From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Tue Aug 13 08:54:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:54:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) Message-ID: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> Hello, I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the right-click menu key as the AltGr key. I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by windows when pressing the AltGr key. Any help would be appreciated. Benoit xev after pressing AltGr: KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" French .Xmodmap file: ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 ! FVI CETP clear Shift clear Lock clear Control clear Mod1 clear Mod2 clear Mod3 clear Mod4 clear Mod5 keycode 9 = Escape Escape keycode 10 = ampersand 1 keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum keycode 19 = agrave 0 at keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright keycode 21 = equal plus braceright keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 23 = Tab Tab keycode 24 = a keycode 25 = z keycode 26 = e keycode 27 = r keycode 28 = t keycode 29 = y keycode 30 = u keycode 31 = i keycode 32 = o keycode 33 = p keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency keycode 36 = Return keycode 37 = Control_L keycode 38 = q keycode 39 = s keycode 40 = d keycode 41 = f keycode 42 = g keycode 43 = h keycode 44 = j keycode 45 = k keycode 46 = l keycode 47 = m M keycode 48 = ugrave percent keycode 49 = twosuperior keycode 50 = Shift_L keycode 51 = asterisk mu keycode 52 = w keycode 53 = x keycode 54 = c keycode 55 = v keycode 56 = b keycode 57 = n keycode 58 = comma question keycode 59 = semicolon period keycode 60 = colon slash keycode 61 = exclam section keycode 62 = Shift_R keycode 63 = KP_Multiply keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L keycode 65 = space space keycode 66 = Caps_Lock keycode 67 = F1 F11 keycode 68 = F2 F12 keycode 69 = F3 F13 keycode 70 = F4 F14 keycode 71 = F5 F15 keycode 72 = F6 F16 keycode 73 = F7 F17 keycode 74 = F8 F18 keycode 75 = F9 F19 keycode 76 = F10 F20 keycode 77 = Num_Lock keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock keycode 79 = KP_7 keycode 80 = KP_8 keycode 81 = KP_9 keycode 82 = KP_Subtract keycode 83 = KP_4 keycode 84 = KP_5 keycode 85 = KP_6 keycode 86 = KP_Add keycode 87 = KP_1 keycode 88 = KP_2 keycode 89 = KP_3 keycode 90 = KP_0 keycode 92 = Sys_Req keycode 94 = less greater keycode 95 = F11 F11 keycode 96 = F12 F12 !Windows right-click menu key keycode 101 = Mode_switch keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key keycode 114 = Break keycode 110 = Find keycode 98 = Up keycode 99 = Prior keycode 100 = Left keycode 102 = Right keycode 104 = Down keycode 105 = Next keycode 106 = Insert add shift = Shift_L Shift_R add lock = Caps_Lock add control = Control_L Control_R add mod1 = Alt_L add mod2 = Mode_switch add mod3 = Num_Lock !add mod4 = Alt_R add mod5 = Scroll_Lock From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 13 10:01:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:01:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) References: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> Message-ID: <3D5925D2.8030707@msu.edu> Benoit, How did you install Cygwin/XFree86? Did you install it using only Cygwin's setup.exe? Or, did you install the old packages by manually untarring them, etc.? Note: you should have installed everything via Cygwin's setup.exe and you should NOT have had to run ``Xinstall.sh''. I ask this because the AltGr handling in Cygwin/XFree86 has received much attention and is generally recognized as working correctly. I suspect that you either have a really old version of XWin.exe, or you have a problem with your modmap that someone else will have to help you with. Harold Benoit Ledoux wrote: > Hello, > > I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my > french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work > correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). > > I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the > .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the > right-click menu key as the AltGr key. > > I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by > windows when pressing the AltGr key. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Benoit > > xev after pressing AltGr: > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), > state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" > > French .Xmodmap file: > ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 > ! FVI CETP > > clear Shift > clear Lock > clear Control > clear Mod1 > clear Mod2 > clear Mod3 > clear Mod4 > clear Mod5 > > keycode 9 = Escape Escape > keycode 10 = ampersand 1 > keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde > keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign > keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft > keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft > keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar > keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave > keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash > keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum > keycode 19 = agrave 0 at > keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright > keycode 21 = equal plus braceright > keycode 22 = BackSpace > keycode 23 = Tab Tab > keycode 24 = a > keycode 25 = z > keycode 26 = e > keycode 27 = r > keycode 28 = t > keycode 29 = y > keycode 30 = u > keycode 31 = i > keycode 32 = o > keycode 33 = p > keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis > keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency > keycode 36 = Return > keycode 37 = Control_L > keycode 38 = q > keycode 39 = s > keycode 40 = d > keycode 41 = f > keycode 42 = g > keycode 43 = h > keycode 44 = j > keycode 45 = k > keycode 46 = l > keycode 47 = m M > keycode 48 = ugrave percent > keycode 49 = twosuperior > keycode 50 = Shift_L > keycode 51 = asterisk mu > keycode 52 = w > keycode 53 = x > keycode 54 = c > keycode 55 = v > keycode 56 = b > keycode 57 = n > keycode 58 = comma question > keycode 59 = semicolon period > keycode 60 = colon slash > keycode 61 = exclam section > keycode 62 = Shift_R > keycode 63 = KP_Multiply > keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L > keycode 65 = space space > keycode 66 = Caps_Lock > keycode 67 = F1 F11 > keycode 68 = F2 F12 > keycode 69 = F3 F13 > keycode 70 = F4 F14 > keycode 71 = F5 F15 > keycode 72 = F6 F16 > keycode 73 = F7 F17 > keycode 74 = F8 F18 > keycode 75 = F9 F19 > keycode 76 = F10 F20 > keycode 77 = Num_Lock > keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock > keycode 79 = KP_7 > keycode 80 = KP_8 > keycode 81 = KP_9 > keycode 82 = KP_Subtract > keycode 83 = KP_4 > keycode 84 = KP_5 > keycode 85 = KP_6 > keycode 86 = KP_Add > keycode 87 = KP_1 > keycode 88 = KP_2 > keycode 89 = KP_3 > keycode 90 = KP_0 > keycode 92 = Sys_Req > keycode 94 = less greater > keycode 95 = F11 F11 > keycode 96 = F12 F12 > !Windows right-click menu key > keycode 101 = Mode_switch > keycode 107 = Delete > keycode 108 = KP_Enter > keycode 109 = Control_R > keycode 112 = KP_Divide > keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key > keycode 114 = Break > keycode 110 = Find > keycode 98 = Up > keycode 99 = Prior > keycode 100 = Left > keycode 102 = Right > keycode 104 = Down > keycode 105 = Next > keycode 106 = Insert > > > add shift = Shift_L Shift_R > add lock = Caps_Lock > add control = Control_L Control_R > add mod1 = Alt_L > add mod2 = Mode_switch > add mod3 = Num_Lock > !add mod4 = Alt_R > add mod5 = Scroll_Lock > From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Tue Aug 13 10:31:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:31:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) Message-ID: <3D592BA2.7030209@free.fr> Harold, I used the setup.exe program. Then I customized the installation (creation of the .Xmodmap and .inputrc files). This setup installed XFree 4.2.0 (4.2.0.10 for XFree-86-xserv). Thanks, Benoit ---- Benoit, How did you install Cygwin/XFree86? Did you install it using only Cygwin's setup.exe? Or, did you install the old packages by manually untarring them, etc.? Note: you should have installed everything via Cygwin's setup.exe and you should NOT have had to run ``Xinstall.sh''. I ask this because the AltGr handling in Cygwin/XFree86 has received much attention and is generally recognized as working correctly. I suspect that you either have a really old version of XWin.exe, or you have a problem with your modmap that someone else will have to help you with. Harold Benoit Ledoux wrote: Hello, I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the right-click menu key as the AltGr key. I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by windows when pressing the AltGr key. Any help would be appreciated. Benoit xev after pressing AltGr: KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" French .Xmodmap file: ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 ! FVI CETP clear Shift clear Lock clear Control clear Mod1 clear Mod2 clear Mod3 clear Mod4 clear Mod5 keycode 9 = Escape Escape keycode 10 = ampersand 1 keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum keycode 19 = agrave 0 at keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright keycode 21 = equal plus braceright keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 23 = Tab Tab keycode 24 = a keycode 25 = z keycode 26 = e keycode 27 = r keycode 28 = t keycode 29 = y keycode 30 = u keycode 31 = i keycode 32 = o keycode 33 = p keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency keycode 36 = Return keycode 37 = Control_L keycode 38 = q keycode 39 = s keycode 40 = d keycode 41 = f keycode 42 = g keycode 43 = h keycode 44 = j keycode 45 = k keycode 46 = l keycode 47 = m M keycode 48 = ugrave percent keycode 49 = twosuperior keycode 50 = Shift_L keycode 51 = asterisk mu keycode 52 = w keycode 53 = x keycode 54 = c keycode 55 = v keycode 56 = b keycode 57 = n keycode 58 = comma question keycode 59 = semicolon period keycode 60 = colon slash keycode 61 = exclam section keycode 62 = Shift_R keycode 63 = KP_Multiply keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L keycode 65 = space space keycode 66 = Caps_Lock keycode 67 = F1 F11 keycode 68 = F2 F12 keycode 69 = F3 F13 keycode 70 = F4 F14 keycode 71 = F5 F15 keycode 72 = F6 F16 keycode 73 = F7 F17 keycode 74 = F8 F18 keycode 75 = F9 F19 keycode 76 = F10 F20 keycode 77 = Num_Lock keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock keycode 79 = KP_7 keycode 80 = KP_8 keycode 81 = KP_9 keycode 82 = KP_Subtract keycode 83 = KP_4 keycode 84 = KP_5 keycode 85 = KP_6 keycode 86 = KP_Add keycode 87 = KP_1 keycode 88 = KP_2 keycode 89 = KP_3 keycode 90 = KP_0 keycode 92 = Sys_Req keycode 94 = less greater keycode 95 = F11 F11 keycode 96 = F12 F12 !Windows right-click menu key keycode 101 = Mode_switch keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key keycode 114 = Break keycode 110 = Find keycode 98 = Up keycode 99 = Prior keycode 100 = Left keycode 102 = Right keycode 104 = Down keycode 105 = Next keycode 106 = Insert add shift = Shift_L Shift_R add lock = Caps_Lock add control = Control_L Control_R add mod1 = Alt_L add mod2 = Mode_switch add mod3 = Num_Lock !add mod4 = Alt_R add mod5 = Scroll_Lock From philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr Tue Aug 13 12:54:00 2002 From: philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr (Philippe Bastiani) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:54:00 -0000 Subject: editres Message-ID: Hi, It seems to me that editres program does not work correctly: I cannot view and/or update the values of resources ! -- Philippe Bastiani From firoz_vohra@yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 00:00:00 2002 From: firoz_vohra@yahoo.com (Firoz Vohra) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... Message-ID: <20020813173119.28570.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Hi.. I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X server on cygwin and i am getting following error msg.... The output when running startx from bash prompt startx waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't list any problems... here it goes... ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in same thing....although both the methods do give me a new X window, but there isn't anything in it. I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people had problems with default font which isn't in my case... any help would b greatly appriciated... thanking in advance... Firoz. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Wed Aug 14 02:27:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:27:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A4AA@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Try using startxwin.sh or startxwin.sh (as recommended in the Xfree86/Cygwin howto). > -----Original Message----- > From: Firoz Vohra [mailto:firoz_vohra@yahoo.com] > Sent: 13 August 2002 18:31 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: problem...please help... > > > Hi.. > > I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X > server on cygwin and i am getting following error > msg.... > > The output when running startx from bash prompt > startx > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > .. > giving up. > xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to > connect to X server > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't > list any problems... > > here it goes... > > ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens > > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be > set to root > > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me > > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported > engines 00000017 > > winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display > depth of 32 bits per pixel > > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 > h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 > > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff > > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > > winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to > fbCreateDefColormap () > > winScreenInit - returning > > the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in > same thing....although both the methods do give me a > new X window, but there isn't anything in it. > > I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people > had problems with default font which isn't in my > case... > > any help would b greatly appriciated... > > thanking in advance... > > Firoz. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Wed Aug 14 03:31:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 03:31:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... References: <20020813173119.28570.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D5A0028.1050100@free.fr> H i Firoz, You should check that you do not have a firewall running. I had the same problem and it was due to my firewall: it was refusing the connection to the X server. Benoit Firoz Vohra wrote: >Hi.. > >I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X >server on cygwin and i am getting following error >msg.... > >The output when running startx from bash prompt >startx >waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . >.. >giving up. >xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to >connect to X server >xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > >I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't >list any problems... > >here it goes... > >ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens > >winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > >winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > >_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be >set to root > >winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me > >winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > >winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > >winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported >engines 00000017 > >winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > >winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display >depth of 32 bits per pixel > >winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > >winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > >winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 >h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 > >winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > >winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 > >winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 >000000ff > >winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 >000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > >winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to >fbCreateDefColormap () > >winScreenInit - returning > >the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in >same thing....although both the methods do give me a >new X window, but there isn't anything in it. > >I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people >had problems with default font which isn't in my >case... > >any help would b greatly appriciated... > >thanking in advance... > >Firoz. > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > From firoz_vohra@yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 04:33:00 2002 From: firoz_vohra@yahoo.com (Firoz Vohra) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:33:00 -0000 Subject: problem...please help... Message-ID: <20020814092657.11444.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Try using startxwin.sh or startxwin.sh (as recommended in the Xfree86/Cygwin howto). I have tried all the options available, it simply doesn't work...i mean i do get new screen but no terminal window in it... As for the firewall, i have got win98se connected to network in the office, but no firewall running on my machine as such as far i know. Any other solution to my problem would b welcomed...and ya thanks both of you guys for ur help... Hi Firoz, You should check that you do not have a firewall running. I had the same problem and it was due to my firewall: it was refusing the connection to the X server. Benoit Firoz Vohra wrote: Hi.. I am kinda new to cygwin and am trying to configure X server on cygwin and i am getting following error msg.... The output when running startx from bash prompt startx waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. I have looked on the default log file and it doesn't list any problems... here it goes... ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning the other ways of trying to run X ( via dos) result in same thing....although both the methods do give me a new X window, but there isn't anything in it. I have looked the mailing archieve and it seems people had problems with default font which isn't in my case... any help would b greatly appriciated... thanking in advance... Firoz. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From bitlov@ibelgique.com Wed Aug 14 04:37:00 2002 From: bitlov@ibelgique.com (bitlov) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:37:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) References: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> Message-ID: <000b01c2437d$cdffc6a0$0a001fac@whisper> Your xmodmap file is incomplete. You should add this : keycode 107 = Delete keycode 108 = KP_Enter keycode 109 = Control_R keycode 110 = Pause keycode 111 = Print keycode 112 = KP_Divide keycode 113 = Mode_switch keycode 114 = Break ! right windows-logo key ! in "windows" keyboards the postion of the key is annoying, is where AltGr ! usually resides, so go definie it as AltGr keycode 116 = Mode_switch ! right windows-menu key, redefined as Compose key keycode 117 = Multi_key For my part, I have troubles with my numlock key. Could you try if yours is functionning ? -bitlov ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benoit Ledoux" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:20 PM Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) > Hello, > > I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my > french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work > correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). > > I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the > .Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the > right-click menu key as the AltGr key. > > I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by > windows when pressing the AltGr key. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Benoit > > xev after pressing AltGr: > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), > state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" > > xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" > KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), > state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" > > French .Xmodmap file: > ! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 > ! FVI CETP > > clear Shift > clear Lock > clear Control > clear Mod1 > clear Mod2 > clear Mod3 > clear Mod4 > clear Mod5 > > keycode 9 = Escape Escape > keycode 10 = ampersand 1 > keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde > keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign > keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft > keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft > keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar > keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave > keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash > keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum > keycode 19 = agrave 0 at > keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright > keycode 21 = equal plus braceright > keycode 22 = BackSpace > keycode 23 = Tab Tab > keycode 24 = a > keycode 25 = z > keycode 26 = e > keycode 27 = r > keycode 28 = t > keycode 29 = y > keycode 30 = u > keycode 31 = i > keycode 32 = o > keycode 33 = p > keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis > keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency > keycode 36 = Return > keycode 37 = Control_L > keycode 38 = q > keycode 39 = s > keycode 40 = d > keycode 41 = f > keycode 42 = g > keycode 43 = h > keycode 44 = j > keycode 45 = k > keycode 46 = l > keycode 47 = m M > keycode 48 = ugrave percent > keycode 49 = twosuperior > keycode 50 = Shift_L > keycode 51 = asterisk mu > keycode 52 = w > keycode 53 = x > keycode 54 = c > keycode 55 = v > keycode 56 = b > keycode 57 = n > keycode 58 = comma question > keycode 59 = semicolon period > keycode 60 = colon slash > keycode 61 = exclam section > keycode 62 = Shift_R > keycode 63 = KP_Multiply > keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L > keycode 65 = space space > keycode 66 = Caps_Lock > keycode 67 = F1 F11 > keycode 68 = F2 F12 > keycode 69 = F3 F13 > keycode 70 = F4 F14 > keycode 71 = F5 F15 > keycode 72 = F6 F16 > keycode 73 = F7 F17 > keycode 74 = F8 F18 > keycode 75 = F9 F19 > keycode 76 = F10 F20 > keycode 77 = Num_Lock > keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock > keycode 79 = KP_7 > keycode 80 = KP_8 > keycode 81 = KP_9 > keycode 82 = KP_Subtract > keycode 83 = KP_4 > keycode 84 = KP_5 > keycode 85 = KP_6 > keycode 86 = KP_Add > keycode 87 = KP_1 > keycode 88 = KP_2 > keycode 89 = KP_3 > keycode 90 = KP_0 > keycode 92 = Sys_Req > keycode 94 = less greater > keycode 95 = F11 F11 > keycode 96 = F12 F12 > !Windows right-click menu key > keycode 101 = Mode_switch > keycode 107 = Delete > keycode 108 = KP_Enter > keycode 109 = Control_R > keycode 112 = KP_Divide > keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key > keycode 114 = Break > keycode 110 = Find > keycode 98 = Up > keycode 99 = Prior > keycode 100 = Left > keycode 102 = Right > keycode 104 = Down > keycode 105 = Next > keycode 106 = Insert > > > add shift = Shift_L Shift_R > add lock = Caps_Lock > add control = Control_L Control_R > add mod1 = Alt_L > add mod2 = Mode_switch > add mod3 = Num_Lock > !add mod4 = Alt_R > add mod5 = Scroll_Lock > > From Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr Wed Aug 14 12:14:00 2002 From: Benoit.Ledoux@free.fr (Benoit Ledoux) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) References: <3D5923B0.5030409@free.fr> <000b01c2437d$cdffc6a0$0a001fac@whisper> Message-ID: <3D5A400D.4090107@free.fr> This doesn't solve my problem! I also have problems with my Num_lock: - In xterm, the Num_lock key is no taken in account. I can only type the numbers but can not yse the arrows, end insert....) - In rxvt, if the Num_lock is off I can use the numbers otherwise every key press closes my terminal window Benoit bitlov wrote: >Your xmodmap file is incomplete. >You should add this : >keycode 107 = Delete >keycode 108 = KP_Enter >keycode 109 = Control_R >keycode 110 = Pause >keycode 111 = Print >keycode 112 = KP_Divide >keycode 113 = Mode_switch >keycode 114 = Break >! right windows-logo key >! in "windows" keyboards the postion of the key is annoying, is where AltGr >! usually resides, so go definie it as AltGr >keycode 116 = Mode_switch >! right windows-menu key, redefined as Compose key >keycode 117 = Multi_key > >For my part, I have troubles with my numlock key. Could you try if yours is >functionning ? >-bitlov > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Benoit Ledoux" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:20 PM >Subject: AltGr and cygwin (French keyboard) > > > > >>Hello, >> >>I using the Xwin X server of cygwin and try to setup it to work with my >>french keyboard. Unfortunatly I am not able to make the AltGr key work >>correctly (needed for ~#{[|`\^@]}). >> >>I am using xmodmap to re-map my keyboard. You will find bellow the >>.Xmodmap file I am using. The only work arround I found is to use the >>right-click menu key as the AltGr key. >> >>I guess Xwin doesn't like the fake Control_L event that is generated by >>windows when pressing the AltGr key. >> >>Any help would be appreciated. >>Benoit >> >>xev after pressing AltGr: >>KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834343, (-101,384), root:(468,406), >> state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, >> XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" >> >>KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834393, (-101,384), root:(468,406), >> state 0x2014, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, >> XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" >> >>KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32834403, (-101,384), root:(468,406), >> state 0x2010, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen >> >> >YES, > > >> XLookupString gives 0 characters: "" >> >>xev after pressing AltGr+ "|" >>KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, >> root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 32931593, (-389,206), root:(180,228), >> state 0x2014, keycode 15 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, >> XLookupString gives 1 characters: "{" >> >>French .Xmodmap file: >>! French keyboard Xmodmap for Cygwin/XFree86 >>! FVI CETP >> >>clear Shift >>clear Lock >>clear Control >>clear Mod1 >>clear Mod2 >>clear Mod3 >>clear Mod4 >>clear Mod5 >> >>keycode 9 = Escape Escape >>keycode 10 = ampersand 1 >>keycode 11 = eacute 2 dead_tilde >>keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign >>keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft >>keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft >>keycode 15 = minus 6 bar bar bar bar bar >>keycode 16 = egrave 7 dead_grave >>keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash >>keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum >>keycode 19 = agrave 0 at >>keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright >>keycode 21 = equal plus braceright >>keycode 22 = BackSpace >>keycode 23 = Tab Tab >>keycode 24 = a >>keycode 25 = z >>keycode 26 = e >>keycode 27 = r >>keycode 28 = t >>keycode 29 = y >>keycode 30 = u >>keycode 31 = i >>keycode 32 = o >>keycode 33 = p >>keycode 34 = dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis >>keycode 35 = dollar sterling currency >>keycode 36 = Return >>keycode 37 = Control_L >>keycode 38 = q >>keycode 39 = s >>keycode 40 = d >>keycode 41 = f >>keycode 42 = g >>keycode 43 = h >>keycode 44 = j >>keycode 45 = k >>keycode 46 = l >>keycode 47 = m M >>keycode 48 = ugrave percent >>keycode 49 = twosuperior >>keycode 50 = Shift_L >>keycode 51 = asterisk mu >>keycode 52 = w >>keycode 53 = x >>keycode 54 = c >>keycode 55 = v >>keycode 56 = b >>keycode 57 = n >>keycode 58 = comma question >>keycode 59 = semicolon period >>keycode 60 = colon slash >>keycode 61 = exclam section >>keycode 62 = Shift_R >>keycode 63 = KP_Multiply >>keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L >>keycode 65 = space space >>keycode 66 = Caps_Lock >>keycode 67 = F1 F11 >>keycode 68 = F2 F12 >>keycode 69 = F3 F13 >>keycode 70 = F4 F14 >>keycode 71 = F5 F15 >>keycode 72 = F6 F16 >>keycode 73 = F7 F17 >>keycode 74 = F8 F18 >>keycode 75 = F9 F19 >>keycode 76 = F10 F20 >>keycode 77 = Num_Lock >>keycode 78 = Scroll_Lock >>keycode 79 = KP_7 >>keycode 80 = KP_8 >>keycode 81 = KP_9 >>keycode 82 = KP_Subtract >>keycode 83 = KP_4 >>keycode 84 = KP_5 >>keycode 85 = KP_6 >>keycode 86 = KP_Add >>keycode 87 = KP_1 >>keycode 88 = KP_2 >>keycode 89 = KP_3 >>keycode 90 = KP_0 >>keycode 92 = Sys_Req >>keycode 94 = less greater >>keycode 95 = F11 F11 >>keycode 96 = F12 F12 >>!Windows right-click menu key >>keycode 101 = Mode_switch >>keycode 107 = Delete >>keycode 108 = KP_Enter >>keycode 109 = Control_R >>keycode 112 = KP_Divide >>keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key >>keycode 114 = Break >>keycode 110 = Find >>keycode 98 = Up >>keycode 99 = Prior >>keycode 100 = Left >>keycode 102 = Right >>keycode 104 = Down >>keycode 105 = Next >>keycode 106 = Insert >> >> >>add shift = Shift_L Shift_R >>add lock = Caps_Lock >>add control = Control_L Control_R >>add mod1 = Alt_L >>add mod2 = Mode_switch >>add mod3 = Num_Lock >>!add mod4 = Alt_R >>add mod5 = Scroll_Lock >> >> >> >> > > > > > > From koch@ee.ethz.ch Wed Aug 14 12:20:00 2002 From: koch@ee.ethz.ch (Volker M. Koch) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing Message-ID: <000001c24386$f752e9c0$9c268481@koch> Hi, I tried to install xfig on my Windows XP system and used your description under http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/wew036/latex/xfig.html. 1. I start X-Win32 2. I start Cygwin 3. In the first line of the Cygwin terminal it says: "bash: xhost: command not found" 4. I type "xfig" 5. An error message appears telling me that the program could not be startet because libICE.dll could not be found. Can you help? Thanks a lot, Volker From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 15 02:23:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 02:23:00 -0000 Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing Message-ID: I visited the website you posted and they seem to have left out the fact that even if you use X-Win32, you still need to install some of the XFree86 components into Cygwin to support X clients. Since I'm not exactly sure which component(s) are needed, I suggest you install the XFree86-xserv package and use the Cygwin X server, XWin, instead of X-Win32. This should fix your problem. Note: If you're using the shortcut as described in the web site, change the Target to "startxwin.bat" (leaving the Start in path unchanged) to launch XWin. >From: "Volker M. Koch" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:37:26 +0200 > >Hi, > >I tried to install xfig on my Windows XP system and used your >description under http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/wew036/latex/xfig.html. > >1. I start X-Win32 >2. I start Cygwin >3. In the first line of the Cygwin terminal it says: "bash: xhost: >command not found" 4. I type "xfig" 5. An error message appears telling >me that the program could not be startet because libICE.dll could not be >found. > >Can you help? > >Thanks a lot, >Volker _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 15 04:04:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > I visited the website you posted and they seem to have left out the fact > that even if you use X-Win32, you still need to install some of the XFree86 > components into Cygwin to support X clients. Argl. Of you need all (cygwin) X libraries if you want to use (cygwin) X clients. The X Server (in your case X-Win32) is completely independent from the clients. You can install the server in a different host, use a java X server or maybe exceed. The important fact is X clients require X libraries. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From koch@ee.ethz.ch Thu Aug 15 05:00:00 2002 From: koch@ee.ethz.ch (Volker M. Koch) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 05:00:00 -0000 Subject: LaTeX; fig2eps Message-ID: <000401c2443d$618d01c0$9c268481@paderborn> Hi, I want to create an eps file from a fig file. That fig file contains LaTeX code (special flag set on). On a Sun machine, I used fig2eps to create eps files (LaTeX was started and the LaTeX code was used to create nice looking equations). What can I do under Cygwin to create such eps files with LaTeX code? Can you help? Thanks a lot, Volker From James.Coleman@s3group.com Thu Aug 15 07:32:00 2002 From: James.Coleman@s3group.com (James Coleman) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:32:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip interferes with xemacs selection and Re: xwinclip can copy from NT to KDE but not from KDE to NT Message-ID: <3D5B8ACB.140B8616@s3group.com> Hi, I have noticed something which may also be related to the KDE problem. Maybe not. But I think it is worth raising it as a known issue with xwinclip. If xemacs (various versions - on linux and solaris) is run under Cygwin XFree86 and if xwinclip is running then xemacs selection (e.g. Ctrl-SPC move Meta-W for copy) gets cancelled by xwinclip. The behaviour xemacs wants is to start a selection and not release it until the user does a copy. xwinclip, however works directly with the mouse and releases the selection as soon as it is made. This could be related with NT <-> KDE as in playing with xwinclip and trying to see who should control the release of the selection I can see several behaviours where the selection doesn't get handled well and xwinclip behaviour changes. I'm not using KDE myself. Looking at this with debug on in xwinclip I can see how to possibly work around this problem for xemacs (if no text selected ... then assume xemacs and don't release selection). This isn't a great workaround (selection using shift+arrow/movement still broken) but it is a start. It may be that applications do release the selection and xwinclip should never do this. I will test this more myself but if anyone else is working on xwinclip they may have a better idea how something like this should be fixed? In xevents.c FlushXEvents case SelectionNotify: after XGetWindowProperty something like this: #if WORKAROUND if (fUnicodeSupport) { if ( xtpText.nitems == 0 && ulReturnBytesLeft == 0 ) { /* workaround for xemacs */ /* set workaround flag */ workaroundToStopReassertionOnEmacsBeginSelect = 1; } } else {/* should probably do same */ } #endif then later in same case around XSetSelectionOwner just before break; #ifdef WORKAROUND if (workaroundToStopReassertionOnEmacsBeginSelect == 0) { #endif /* Reassert ownership of the selection */ iReturn = XSetSelectionOwner (pDisplay, event.xselection.selection, iWindow, CurrentTime); if (iReturn == BadAtom || iReturn == BadWindow) { printf ("Could not reassert ownership of selectionn"); exit (1); } #ifdef WORKAROUND } else { workaroundToStopReassertionOnEmacsBeginSelect = 0; } #endif So, if you've managed to get to here: Can anyone help and say if the release of the selection should be controlled by X applications or otherwise? Is this a known issue with xwinclip ... is anyone actively working on xwinclip? James. From geek@burri.to Thu Aug 15 07:41:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:41:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip interferes with xemacs selection and Re: xwinclip can copy from NT to KDE but not from KDE to NT In-Reply-To: <3D5B8ACB.140B8616@s3group.com> References: <3D5B8ACB.140B8616@s3group.com> Message-ID: <4642.128.2.120.244.1029412823.squirrel@mail.burri.to> James Coleman said: and releases the selection as soon as it is made. > Looking at this with debug on in xwinclip I can see how to possibly > work around this problem for xemacs (if no text selected ... then > assume xemacs and don't release selection). This isn't a great > workaround (selection using shift+arrow/movement still broken) but > it is a start. It may be that applications do release the selection > and xwinclip should never do this. I will test this more myself > but if anyone else is working on xwinclip they may have a better > idea how something like this should be fixed? It turns out that the workaround is really trivial. Turn off "active regions." I've been using xemacs for months, and I've never missed active regions. From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Aug 15 08:24:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:24:00 -0000 Subject: AW: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing Message-ID: It took me about 2 minutes with Google to figure out that "fig2eps" is really an alias for "fig2dev", which is part of the TransFig package. You should look for the existence of fig2dev in the tarfile you installed. If it's not there, you can go to http://www.xfig.org, download the source for transfig, and have at it. Once you get ahold of fig2dev, try "man fig2dev" to figure out how to use it. >From: "Volker M. Koch" >To: "'Thomas Chadwick'" >CC: >Subject: AW: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:48:42 +0200 > >Hi Thomas! > > > of X-Win32. This should fix your problem. > >it works now. Thanks a lot! > > > > > Note: If you're using the shortcut as described in the web > > site, change the > > Target to "startxwin.bat" (leaving the Start in path > > unchanged) to launch > > XWin. > >Currently I run startxwin.bat directly. What do you mean with >"change the Target to "startxwin.bat" (leaving the Start in path >unchanged)"? > >Maybe you also know the answer to another problem. I want to create an >eps >file from a fig file. That fig file contains latex code (special flag >on). > >On a Sun machine, I used fig2eps to create eps files (latex was started >and >the latex code was used to create nice looking equations). > >What can I do under Cygwin to create such eps files with latex code? > >Thanks a lot, >Volker > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 15 08:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:44:00 -0000 Subject: use Cygwin/XFree86 as a XClient References: <005201c24439$087efd80$4002a8c0@vn.ibsdp.com> Message-ID: <3D5BBD95.40304@msu.edu> Thach, First of all, do not email me directly. Send all inquiries about the Cygwin/XFree86 project to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, where I have cc'd this message. Second, your terminology is exactly backwards. Cygwin/XFree86 provides an X Server that makes your display device available to X Client programs. You either want to display individual X Clients on your X Server, or you want to display a remote session on your X Server. Both options are discussed in the User's Guide in far greater detail than I care to repeat again: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Harold Le Ngoc Thach wrote: > Hi, > I have downloaded/setup Cygwin/XFree86. I have also read over your > "Cygwin/XFree86 User??s Guide". > I have heard KDE is working in Cygwin/XFree86. > > Can I use Cygwin/XFree86 (in Windows 2000) as a XClient to connect to > XServer in RedHat Linux 7.3? > > Please help me where to get document! > > Thanks! > > Thach IBS-DP! > From Jill.Goodson@mail.chdsl.net Fri Aug 16 02:30:00 2002 From: Jill.Goodson@mail.chdsl.net (Jill.Goodson@mail.chdsl.net) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 02:30:00 -0000 Subject: YOU HAVE TO TRY THIS! IT REALLY WORKS!! 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If you have any questions of the legality of this marketing program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices Federal Trade Commission Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington D.C. GOOD LUCK!! Remember that Einstein was as impressed with the power of compounding numbers as he was with relativity. Important: To remove yourself from this mailing please reply with the word "REMOVE" in the subject line. This message is in full compliance with the U.S. Federal requirements for commercial e-mail under bill s.1618 Title 111, Section 301, Paragraph (a) (2) (c) passed by the 105th Congress and cannot be considered SPAM since it includes a remove mechanism. From koch@ee.ethz.ch Fri Aug 16 05:25:00 2002 From: koch@ee.ethz.ch (Volker M. Koch) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 05:25:00 -0000 Subject: fig2eps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c24472$9d99ad50$9a268481@paderborn> Hi Thomas, I have adapted a little script which does the fig2eps procedure. Maybe you like it, too. It works fine. Thanks for your help, Volker #!/bin/tcsh -f ######### copy .fig cp $1 temp20020815.fig ######### create .pstex and .pstex_t files fig2dev -L pstex -p 1 temp20020815.fig >temp20020815.pstex fig2dev -L pstex_t -p temp20020815.pstex temp20020815.fig >temp20020815.pstex_t ######### create LaTeX2e source and compile it echo "\\documentclass{article}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\usepackage{epsfig,amsmath,amssymb}" >>temp20020815.tex foreach i ($argv[2-]) echo "\\usepackage{"$i"}" >>temp20020815.tex end echo "\\usepackage[colorlinks,hyperindex]{hyperref}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\usepackage{geometry}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\geometry{nohead,nofoot,left=0pt,right=0pt,top=0pt,bottom=0pt}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\pagestyle{empty}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\begin{document}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\input{%" >>temp20020815.tex echo temp20020815.pstex_t% >>temp20020815.tex echo "}" >>temp20020815.tex echo "\\end{document}" >>temp20020815.tex latex -interaction=batchmode temp20020815.tex ######### create a postscript file dvips -E temp20020815.dvi -o $1.eps ######### clean /tmp /bin/rm -f temp20020815* exit 0 From janneke@gnu.org Fri Aug 16 07:58:00 2002 From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: LaTeX; fig2eps In-Reply-To: <000401c2443d$618d01c0$9c268481@paderborn> ("Volker M dot Koch"'s message of "Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:23:12 +0200") References: <000401c2443d$618d01c0$9c268481@paderborn> Message-ID: <87vg6b40ck.fsf@peder.flower> "Volker M dot Koch" writes: > I want to create an eps file from a fig file. > On a Sun machine, I used fig2eps to create eps files (LaTeX was > started and the LaTeX code was used to create nice looking > equations). I don't know fig2eps, have a look at what it. It's probably just a script that does something like: fig2dev -L latex $1 $1.tex latex $1 dvips -E $1 You still need (to port) fig2dev for Cygwin. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From rahmanmahfuzur@hotmail.com Fri Aug 16 10:02:00 2002 From: rahmanmahfuzur@hotmail.com (Rahman Mahfuzur) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:02:00 -0000 Subject: Regarding compilation with powerpc-elf-gcc Message-ID: Dear Sir, I am a student doing masters in computer science in a university in Germany. I am doing development on Excimer PowerPC 603 evaluation board. So my first purpose is to set up the environment on compilation and liking for a powerpc in a Windows machine. I installed Cygwin first on my hard drive. The installation path is "c:\cygwin". Then I installed the GNU Toolkit For PowerPC. Both of the installtion procedure is successfully completed. Then I tried to compile a simple c program with gcc compiler and it can compile properly. But when I tried to compile a very simple c program with powerpc-elf-gcc compiler (the cross compiler for powerpc board), I got the following message: "Assembler messages: for reading.open : No such file or directory". I tried many possibilities to overcome this error message but I failed. So I do not have any more idea to solve this problem. Can you give me some suggestion on how to solve such a error message. Yours sincerely, Mohammad Mahfuzur Rahman _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From cgf@redhat.com Fri Aug 16 13:32:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:32:00 -0000 Subject: help: script to launch x-win and then do something in x-win In-Reply-To: <002101c2452c$cf549660$05921941@alleluja> References: <002101c2452c$cf549660$05921941@alleluja> Message-ID: <20020816145835.GA19367@redhat.com> I've redirected this to the proper mailing list. On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:57:02AM -0400, hongxun lee wrote: >i was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. >Before x-win lauch process was finished, the following commands were >finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Aug 16 13:52:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:52:00 -0000 Subject: More xrn build woes Message-ID: <20020816170241.76812.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> --- news@garydjones.mailshell.com wrote: > Hmm. I'm still trying to build xrn. > > $ xmkmf > mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak > imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config > In file included from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl:1845, > from Imakefile.c:9: > /tmp/IIf.576279:312: unterminated `#ifdef' conditional > imake: Exit code 1. > Stop. > > However: > $ cat -n /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl > [snip] > 1843 XCOMM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1844 XCOMM start of Imakefile > 1845 #include INCLUDE_IMAKEFILE > [snip] > > $ cat -n Imakefile > [snip] > 312 #ifdef MOTIF > 313 TKSED= -e 's/MOTIF//' -e '/XAW/d' -e > 's/notify()/Activate()/' \ > 314 -e 's/unset()/Disarm()/' -e 's/set()/Arm()/' \ > 315 -e 's/\([*.]\)label:/\1labelString:/' \ > 316 -e 's/no-op(RingBell/beep(/' \ > 317 -e 's/\.\([^.]*\)\.baseTranslations/*\1*translations/' \ > 318 -e 's/baseTranslations/translations/' \ > 319 -e 's/>Down/>osfDown/' -e 's/>Up/>osfUp/' \ > 320 -e 's/>Left/>osfLeft/' -e 's/>Right/>osfRight/' > 321 #else > 322 TKSED= -e 's/XAW//' -e '/MOTIF/d' > 323 #endif > [snip] In regard to your issue, it is most likely that the unterminated if statement is happening much earlier, the preprocessor just realizes it at that line. Also, you should probably be using 'xmkmf -a'. Other then that, I really can't think of anything else. You'll just have to go through every statement to make sure it's kosher. Perhaps someone else has an idea... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 16 17:56:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:56:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Manjunatha Shetty Kondalli wrote: > Could you please tell me the solution for following problem? > Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 _Never_ mail me directly when the question belongs to the cygwin-xfree mailinglist. BTW: The question was already asked. Please check the archives. Fup to cygwin-xfree bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Aug 16 23:48:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:48:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020816205254.27476.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Manjunatha Shetty Kondalli wrote: > > > Could you please tell me the solution for following problem? > > Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server > > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > > Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 > > _Never_ mail me directly when the question belongs to the > cygwin-xfree > mailinglist. *ROFLMAO*, they can't help it, they're just n00bies! Seriously though, the mcookie application is supposed to allivate this error. Perhaps it should be included in the script. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From lee.1801@osu.edu Sat Aug 17 03:47:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 03:47:00 -0000 Subject: Fw: script to launch x-win and then do something in x-win Message-ID: <000901c24589$16c80ac0$6372fe8c@alleluja> > Hi, > > i was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. > Before x-win lauch process was finished, the following commands were > finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. > > Thanks From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Sat Aug 17 04:20:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:20:00 -0000 Subject: Cross Compiling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d64eede.302411164@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:01:54 +0200 (CEST), Alexander Gottwald wrote: RE... >On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > >> >> I did a little research and indeed it is those damn SuSE people who broke >> the cross compiling system! Take a look at: >> http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/xconf2001/cc-imake.pdf > >Interesting article. I'll check what is needed to get current CVS cross- >compile in that build environment. > >> and see if that doesn't seem like it fits the current case. Note their >> desire to modify the imake source file instead of cross.def. This might >> explain why the build fails when it tries to compile imake. > >I made the following changes to build imake (the diff I'll send Thursday >will show this in complete) > >- set BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS to "-Ulinux -D__CYGWIN__" >- pass IMAKE_DEFINES="-Ulinux -D__CYGWIN__" to imake > >also there are a lot of changes need where some programs are build as >ProgramTarget but should be HostProgramTarget and another big problem >in cygwin.rules where all: tries to build $(addsuffix .exe,PROGRAMS) >instead of $(PROGRAMS). This results in "No rule to make target >bitmap.exe.exe" and so on. I dunno if it's any use to you chaps or not. Extract from native cygwin build on recent CVS xc (approx 2 or 3 days old)... make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.man', needed by `lndir.exe._man'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `rman.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `makestrs.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `revpath.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `bitmap.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `bmtoa.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `atobm.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `proxymngr.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xclipboard.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xcutsel.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xdm.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xdmshell.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `sessreg.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `chooser.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xfindproxy.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xinit.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `xsm.exe.exe', needed by `all'. I've not built XFree before so can't determine the root cause. Nevertheless, for the most part (bit different for lndir makefile) it appears that the assignment to "PROGRAMS" already has '.exe' appended then "PROGS_EXE" does it again. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From lee.1801@osu.edu Sat Aug 17 04:52:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win Message-ID: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> Hi, I was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. Before x-win lauch process was finished, the commands followed were finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. What should I do ? Thanks From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Aug 17 05:12:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 05:12:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win In-Reply-To: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> References: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> Message-ID: <200208172120.35921.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 8:48 pm, hongxun lee wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. > Before x-win lauch process was finished, the commands followed were > finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. > > What should I do ? Thanks No one can help you unless you provide more information. You did not say which script, what commands or any detail at all with which anyone could offer any advice. It is not even clear that you are using the Cygwin-XFree program at all. For all I know you might be using the commercial X-Win32 program, although that probably does not involve a script. Please read the XFree-Cygwin website in more detail. The answer to your question (whatever it is, as currently we have no idea what your question is) is probably already answered. Then search the mailing list archives. Then read http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Then get back to to the list. Rasjid. From lee.1801@osu.edu Sat Aug 17 07:37:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:37:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win References: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> <200208172120.35921.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <00b101c245e4$abbe9850$8771fe8c@alleluja> #!/bin/bash startx cd /cygdrive/c pwd For this particular script, x-win was launched but the commands followed never ran either in bash-window or x-win; Sorry but didn't find answers to my difficulty in those archives. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rasjid Wilcox" To: ; "hongxun lee" Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 7:20 AM Subject: Re: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 8:48 pm, hongxun lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was trying to make the script work, but it didn't run as i expected. > > Before x-win lauch process was finished, the commands followed were > > finished already in Bash-window, rather than in x-win. > > > > What should I do ? Thanks > > No one can help you unless you provide more information. You did not say > which script, what commands or any detail at all with which anyone could > offer any advice. It is not even clear that you are using the Cygwin-XFree > program at all. For all I know you might be using the commercial X-Win32 > program, although that probably does not involve a script. > > Please read the XFree-Cygwin website in more detail. The answer to your > question (whatever it is, as currently we have no idea what your question is) > is probably already answered. Then search the mailing list archives. Then > read http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Then get back to > to the list. > > Rasjid. > > > From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Aug 17 09:51:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 09:51:00 -0000 Subject: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win In-Reply-To: <00b101c245e4$abbe9850$8771fe8c@alleluja> References: <003f01c245db$98296800$8771fe8c@alleluja> <200208172120.35921.rasjidw@openminddev.net> <00b101c245e4$abbe9850$8771fe8c@alleluja> Message-ID: <200208172212.22285.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 9:53 pm, hongxun lee wrote: > #!/bin/bash > > startx > cd /cygdrive/c > pwd > > For this particular script, x-win was launched but the commands followed > never ran either in bash-window or x-win; Sorry but didn't find answers to > my difficulty in those archives. Thanks You have not looked very carefully at the Cygwin-XFree website. See the users guide. http://xfree.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting The answer to your question is probably to either use a modified startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh or even a modified startx, although the script as you have written it does not make any sense. Are you trying to run those commands in an xterm? Will the commands keep changing? Nope, I still have no idea what you are really trying to do. However, I can say that what you are currently trying to do will not work. PLEASE go and do some more reading. As far as I can tell, your problem has nothing to do with Cygwin-XFree, but is a generic question about XWindows. There are better places to ask such questions. Rasjid. From news@garydjones.mailshell.com Sat Aug 17 12:19:00 2002 From: news@garydjones.mailshell.com (news@garydjones.mailshell.com) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:19:00 -0000 Subject: More xrn build woes References: <20020816170241.76812.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 16 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > it is most likely that the > unterminated if statement is happening much earlier, the > preprocessor just realizes it at that line. Also, you should probably > be using 'xmkmf -a'. I believe I tried that, at some point, although the Xrn README does not say that it is needed. > Other then that, I really can't think of anything else. I seem to have solved that problem anyway, by starting again from scratch. I noticed that config.h had become "corrupted" (nasty cr-lf line endings :-) though that may not have been the problem. I would have posted this, but since I don't know exactly what solved the problem it seemed silly to do so. Anyway, after editing the config.h and Imakefile, it now builds the Makefile "okay" (i.e. AFAIK it is okay). I'm just looking at some other problems, now. From rahul@gdit.iiit.net Sat Aug 17 12:26:00 2002 From: rahul@gdit.iiit.net (Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem Message-ID: I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in windows. The details are below. First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 Now when I run a command like xterm & I get the following message Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 Xlib: No protocol specified Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. Could someone please help me out!!! Rahul. From bl.jobse@quicknet.nl Sat Aug 17 12:41:00 2002 From: bl.jobse@quicknet.nl (Ben Jobse) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:41:00 -0000 Subject: XWin not found Message-ID: <004801c24622$f87ed810$b1af49d5@glasbak> LS, I am new to this list and not familiar to Cygwin. I am rather familiar to Unix I downloaded and installed the latest release which also contains Xfree. I am running XP Home Attempting to startup Xfree (startxwin.sh) results in XWin: not found. And indeed I can't locate XWin. Looked into the install log but everything went well. Looked into FAQ's and the mail archive without success. ? thx, Ben Jobse From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Aug 17 18:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: XWin not found In-Reply-To: <004801c24622$f87ed810$b1af49d5@glasbak> Message-ID: Run: cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Send the results to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ben Jobse > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:19 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XWin not found > > > LS, > > I am new to this list and not familiar to Cygwin. > I am rather familiar to Unix > > I downloaded and installed the latest release which also contains Xfree. > I am running XP Home > > Attempting to startup Xfree (startxwin.sh) results in > XWin: not found. And indeed I can't locate XWin. > > Looked into the install log but everything went well. > Looked into FAQ's and the mail archive without success. > > ? > > thx, > Ben Jobse > > > > From bl.jobse@quicknet.nl Sat Aug 17 23:55:00 2002 From: bl.jobse@quicknet.nl (Ben Jobse) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:55:00 -0000 Subject: XWin not found References: Message-ID: <005001c24626$1f1f6d10$b1af49d5@glasbak> Oops, Not installed. Defaults to skip in the setup, like a couple more. I've got some homework to do. Thx for the hint Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: RE: XWin not found | Run: | cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv | | Send the results to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com | | Harold | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com | > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ben Jobse | > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:19 PM | > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com | > Subject: XWin not found | > | > | > LS, | > | > I am new to this list and not familiar to Cygwin. | > I am rather familiar to Unix | > | > I downloaded and installed the latest release which also contains Xfree. | > I am running XP Home | > | > Attempting to startup Xfree (startxwin.sh) results in | > XWin: not found. And indeed I can't locate XWin. | > | > Looked into the install log but everything went well. | > Looked into FAQ's and the mail archive without success. | > | > ? | > | > thx, | > Ben Jobse | > | > | > | > | From HowardWi@aol.com Sun Aug 18 00:05:00 2002 From: HowardWi@aol.com (HowardWi@aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 00:05:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree86 and VPNs with Windows XP Message-ID: <3477549E.6FBAD867.0077288D@aol.com> Hi, You mention in your FAQs that there might be a problem with Xfree if there is VPN software on the windows machine. I'm running windows XP and using a VPN to connect to my IRIX (SGI) machine at work. I have a wireless router with a build in firewall. I can run normal commands find, but somtime X11 commands generate errors like xlib: No protocol specified or Connection to ... refused by server. I have tried different DISPLAY settings only to have the command run (I think) on the IRIX machine. Do you know if this can be done or am I out of luck? Thanks, Howard Wilczynski From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Sun Aug 18 10:33:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 10:33:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020818075314.2a892283.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:21:05 +0530 (IST) "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux > and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in > windows. The details are below. > > First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. > > Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command > export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 > > Now when I run a command like > xterm & > > I get the following message > Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so > that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. > > > Could someone please help me out!!! > > Rahul. Rahul, at first sight this looks like a firewall issue. You appear to have X disabled. Jim From rahul@gdit.iiit.net Sun Aug 18 22:21:00 2002 From: rahul@gdit.iiit.net (Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:21:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem In-Reply-To: <20020818075314.2a892283.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Jim, I've checked it out! There is no firewall present! Could u think of any other factors??? Rahul. On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Jim George wrote: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:21:05 +0530 (IST) > "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > > > I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux > > and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in > > windows. The details are below. > > > > First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. > > > > Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command > > export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 > > > > Now when I run a command like > > xterm & > > > > I get the following message > > Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 > > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > > > > > Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so > > that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. > > > > > > Could someone please help me out!!! > > > > Rahul. > Rahul, > > at first sight this looks like a firewall issue. You appear to have X disabled. > > Jim > -- From mharnois@cpinternet.com Mon Aug 19 00:49:00 2002 From: mharnois@cpinternet.com (Michael D. Harnois) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 00:49:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs Message-ID: <878z34jcl2.fsf@cpinternet.com> All of the build instructions I've been able to find on the web suggest that the same simple "make World" instructions that work on other platforms ought to work on cygwin as well. Well ... I am getting a bunch of errors, all of which look pretty much like this one. What am I missing here? make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I../.. -I../../exports/i nclude -D__i386__ -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LOCALE -D_X86_ -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOP EN_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE - DNO_ALLOCA -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c -o revpath.o revpath.c rm -f revpath.exe gcc -o revpath.exe -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith revpath.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl,--enable-auto-import make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.man', needed by `lndir.exe._man'. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `rman.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `makestrs.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: *** No rule to make target `revpath.exe.exe', needed by `all'. make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. -- Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran Church Washburn, Iowa 2L, UST School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace. -- the Dalai Lama From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 19 02:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 02:41:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <878z34jcl2.fsf@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: Michael, Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build XFree86 for Cygwin: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Michael D. Harnois > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:34 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: building XFree86 from cvs > > > All of the build instructions I've been able to find on the web > suggest that the same simple "make World" instructions that work on > other platforms ought to work on cygwin as well. Well ... I am getting > a bunch of errors, all of which look pretty much like this one. What > am I missing here? > > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. > gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I../.. > -I../../exports/i > nclude -D__i386__ -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LOCALE -D_X86_ > -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOP > EN_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE > -D_GNU_SOURCE - > DNO_ALLOCA -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c -o revpath.o revpath.c > rm -f revpath.exe > gcc -o revpath.exe -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith > revpath.o > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl,--enable-auto-import > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.man', needed by > `lndir.exe._man'. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `rman.exe.exe', needed by `all'. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `makestrs.exe.exe', needed by `all'. > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `revpath.exe.exe', needed by `all'. > make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors. > > > -- > Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational > Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran Church Washburn, Iowa > 2L, UST School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota > Where ignorance is our master, there is > no possibility of real peace. -- the Dalai Lama > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 19 03:56:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > Michael, > > Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build > XFree86 for Cygwin: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. It seems like the PROGRAMS vs. PROG_EXE problem. Didn't the patch got into CVS? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Mon Aug 19 09:36:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d60bc5c.486089910@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:21:41 -0400, "Harold Hunt" wrote: >Michael, > >Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build >XFree86 for Cygwin: >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > >Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. There's two of us making the same mistake then. I mentioned it here in the "Cross Compiling" thread (Sat 17th), thinking that perhaps the native build was connected - something concerning PROGRAMS. I'd much appreciate a hint! I looked at ProgramTargetName(,) and HostProgramTargetName() in cygwin.rules and didn't see anything obvious there. Concat(,) turned out to not be what I hoped (ie conditional) so back to my two original possibilities: (a) done something really silly (b) not my fault. I tweaked the makefiles to see if there'd be any subsequent issues. There weren't. I kept the original generated ones. Summary... --- ./config/util/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 03:43:06.000000000 +0100 +++ ./config/util/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:21:06.000000000 +0100 @@ -896,11 +896,12 @@ GCCMDEP_PROG = gccmakedep -LNDIR_PROG = lndir.exe +LNDIR_STUB = lndir +LNDIR_PROG = $(LNDIR_STUB).exe RMAN_PROG = rman.exe -PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) makestrs.exe revpath.exe $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) +PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) DEPLIBS = @@ -953,14 +954,14 @@ all:: $(LNDIR_PROG) - OBJS2 = $(LNDIR_PROG).o - SRCS2 = $(LNDIR_PROG).c + OBJS2 = lndir.o + SRCS2 = lndir.c -$(LNDIR_PROG).exe: $(OBJS2) $(DEPLIBS2) +$(LNDIR_STUB).exe: $(OBJS2) $(DEPLIBS2) $(RM) $@ $(CCLINK) -o $@ $(LDOPTIONS) $(OBJS2) $(LOCAL_LIBRARIES) $(LDLIBS) $(EXTRA_LOAD_FLAGS) -install:: $(LNDIR_PROG).exe +install:: $(LNDIR_STUB).exe @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR) ]; then \ set +x; \ else \ @@ -969,16 +970,16 @@ fi; \ (set -x; $(MKDIRHIER) $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)); \ fi - $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTPGMFLAGS) $(LNDIR_PROG).exe $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)/$(LNDIR_PROG).exe + $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTPGMFLAGS) $(LNDIR_STUB).exe $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)/$(LNDIR_STUB).exe -all:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html +all:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html -$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(RMAN).exe - $(RM) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html - $(RMAN) $(RMANOPTIONS) < $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) \ - > $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html && $(MV) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html $@ +$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(RMAN).exe + $(RM) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html + $(RMAN) $(RMANOPTIONS) < $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) \ + > $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html && $(MV) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html $@ -install.man:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html +install.man:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(DOCHTMLDIR) ]; then \ set +x; \ else \ @@ -989,21 +990,21 @@ fi @(SUF=`expr $(MANSUFFIX) \: '\(.\)'`; \ set -x; \ - $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(DESTDIR)$(DOCHTMLDIR)/$(LNDIR_PROG).$$SUF.html) + $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(DESTDIR)$(DOCHTMLDIR)/$(LNDIR_STUB).$$SUF.html) cleandir:: - $(RM) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX)-html + $(RM) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX).html $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX)-html -all:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) +all:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) -$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX):: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) +$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX):: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) $(RM) $@ - $(RAWCPP) $(MANDEFS) $(EXTRAMANDEFS) <$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) | sed -e '/^# *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$$/d' -e '/^XCOMM$$/s//#/' -e '/^XCOMM[^a-zA-Z0-9_]/s/^XCOMM/#/' >$@ + $(RAWCPP) $(MANDEFS) $(EXTRAMANDEFS) <$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSRCSUFFIX) | sed -e '/^# *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$$/d' -e '/^XCOMM$$/s//#/' -e '/^XCOMM[^a-zA-Z0-9_]/s/^XCOMM/#/' >$@ cleandir:: - $(RM) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) + $(RM) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) -install.man:: $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) +install.man:: $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR) ]; then \ set +x; \ else \ @@ -1012,7 +1013,7 @@ fi; \ (set -x; $(MKDIRHIER) $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)); \ fi - $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)/$(LNDIR_PROG).$(MANSUFFIX) + $(INSTALL) $(INSTALLFLAGS) $(INSTMANFLAGS) $(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANNEWSUFFIX) $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)/$(LNDIR_STUB).$(MANSUFFIX) all:: makestrs.exe --- ./programs/bitmap/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:50:36.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/bitmap/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:53:13.000000000 +0100 @@ -918,7 +918,7 @@ OBJS2 = bmtoa.o SRCS3 = atobm.c OBJS3 = atobm.o - PROGRAMS = bitmap.exe bmtoa.exe atobm.exe + PROGRAMS = bitmap bmtoa atobm OBJS = $(OBJS1) $(OBJS2) $(OBJS3) $(OBJS4) $(OBJS5) \ $(OBJS6) $(OBJS7) $(OBJS8) $(OBJS9) $(OBJS10) --- ./programs/proxymngr/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:54:29.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/proxymngr/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:54:58.000000000 +0100 @@ -905,7 +905,7 @@ OBJS1 = main.o pmdb.o config.o - PROGRAMS = proxymngr.exe + PROGRAMS = proxymngr LBXPROXY = $(BINDIR)/lbxproxy --- ./programs/xclipboard/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:57:05.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xclipboard/Makefile 2002-08-17 04:57:37.000000000 +0100 @@ -898,7 +898,7 @@ OBJS1 = xclipboard.o SRCS2 = xcutsel.c OBJS2 = xcutsel.o - PROGRAMS = xclipboard.exe xcutsel.exe + PROGRAMS = xclipboard xcutsel DEPLIBS = $(DEPXAWLIB) $(DEPXMULIB) $(DEPXTOOLLIB) $(DEPXPMLIB) $(DEPXLIB) LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XAWLIB) $(XMULIBONLY) $(XTOOLLIB) $(XPMLIB) $(XLIB) DEFINES = --- ./programs/xdm/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 04:59:34.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xdm/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:02:21.000000000 +0100 @@ -932,9 +932,9 @@ SRCS4 = sessreg.c OBJS4 = sessreg.o - CHOOSER = chooser.exe + CHOOSER = chooser - PROGRAMS = xdm.exe xdmshell.exe sessreg.exe $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) + PROGRAMS = xdm xdmshell sessreg $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) OSMAJORVERSION = 1 OSMINORVERSION = 3 --- ./programs/xfindproxy/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 05:05:01.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xfindproxy/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:05:27.000000000 +0100 @@ -901,7 +901,7 @@ OBJS1 = xfindproxy.o - PROGS1 = xfindproxy.exe + PROGS1 = xfindproxy PROGRAMS = $(PROGS1) --- ./programs/xinit/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 05:07:03.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xinit/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:07:22.000000000 +0100 @@ -905,7 +905,7 @@ SRCS1 = xinit.c OBJS1 = xinit.o SAMPLECONFIG = xinitrc - PROGRAMS = xinit.exe + PROGRAMS = xinit all:: startx $(SAMPLECONFIG) --- ./programs/xsm/Makefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-17 05:08:02.000000000 +0100 +++ ./programs/xsm/Makefile 2002-08-17 05:08:21.000000000 +0100 @@ -905,7 +905,7 @@ INCLUDES = -I. - PROGS1 = xsm.exe + PROGS1 = xsm PROGRAMS = $(PROGS1) -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 19 10:34:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:34:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d60bc5c.486089910@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > I looked at ProgramTargetName(,) and HostProgramTargetName() in > cygwin.rules and didn't see anything obvious there. Concat(,) turned out > to not be what I hoped (ie conditional) so back to my two original > possibilities: (a) done something really silly (b) not my fault. Please check cygwin.rules or the other cygwin.* files and search for all: $(PROGS_EXE) (or similar). Replace this with all: $(PROGRAMS) HTH. > I tweaked the makefiles to see if there'd be any subsequent issues. > There weren't. I kept the original generated ones. Summary... When changing the Makefiles, never run make World or make Makefiles. This will remove your changes. The better is to edit Imakefile and the files in config/cf. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From bertrand.muquet@stepmind.com Mon Aug 19 13:40:00 2002 From: bertrand.muquet@stepmind.com (Bertrand Muquet) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:40:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 Message-ID: <3D611E77.6B568009@stepmind.com> Hello I've got a problem running xdvi with Xfree 86 When Xdvi shall display .eps files, it does not work and I get the fwg msg: gs: unknown device:X11 What shall I do ? I thank you in advance, best regards Bertrand Muquet From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mon Aug 19 16:16:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:16:00 -0000 Subject: Bug (minor): xfree86 loses state of caps lock In-Reply-To: <9F2B2FB009DBD244BC5E17C10358F68C02D31037@ntuszg07.uszg.com> References: <9F2B2FB009DBD244BC5E17C10358F68C02D31037@ntuszg07.uszg.com> Message-ID: <20020819173445.GF19239@redhat.com> Redirected to the correct mailing list. On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:05:56AM -0700, ZAWE (Zasha Weinberg) wrote: > >I'm running XFree86 on cygwin under Windows 2000 (output of cygcheck is >below) and have come accross the following minor bug: it is possible to make >XFree86 think that the caps lock state is the opposite of what the rest of >Windows and the caps locks keyboard LED think. > >To reproduce this: >(1) Run XWin using the standard startxwin.sh >(2) Click in the root window to get twm to place the xterm window somewhere, >and place the mouse cursor in the xterm window, so the xterm has keyboard >focus (actually, as far as I can tell, it's possible to reproduce this bug >in an xterm at any time, not just immediately after XWin startup) >(3) Press caps lock, but don't release it >(4) While continuing to hold down caps lock, move the mouse cursor over one >of the program icons in the windows task bar, e.g. Internet Explorer >(5) Release caps lock with the mouse cursor over the program icon >(6) Set the focus once more on the xterm & type some letters: xterm and >other XFree86-hosted applications behave as if caps lock is off, but the >caps lock LED light on the keyboard is on, and all Windows applications >behave as if caps lock is on. If you press caps lock again, the reverse is >true. Thus XFree86 has the opposite state of the caps lock key. > >Although the steps to reproduce the problem seem obscure, I somehow manage >to do it surprisingly often -- I'm not sure why I hit caps lock at all, but >I apparently do. But, this is clearly a minor bug and some of the >workarounds are obvious. > >Workarounds: >- (obvious) quit & re-start XFree86 >- (obvious) Toggle caps lock when switching between a Windows and an >XFree86-hosted application, or use the shift key to type letters in the >correct case >- Perform the above steps that reproduce the problem, which will put XFree86 >back in sync with Windows > >The rest of this message is the output of cygcheck -s -v -r: >----------snip------------- > >Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics >Current System Time: Fri Aug 16 16:51:03 2002 > >Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 > >Path: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin > C:\cygwin\bin > C:\cygwin\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm > C:\cygwin\bin > c:\WINNT\system32 > c:\WINNT > c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem > >SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 >WinDir: C:\WINNT > >HOME = `C:\cygwin\zawe' >MAKE_MODE = `unix' >PWD = `/c/zasha/code/RasMol_2.7.1.1/src' >USER = `ZAWE' > >ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' >APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\zawe\Application Data' >COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' >COMPUTERNAME = `USZGA0393' >COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' >DISPLAY = `:0.0' >HOMEDRIVE = `C:' >HOMEPATH = `\cygwin\zawe' >HOMESHARE = `\\ntuszg01\users' >LOGNAME = `ZAWE' >LOGONSERVER = `\\QUIMBY' >MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' >NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' >OLDPWD = `/zawe/sims-f77' >OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' >OS = `Windows_NT' >PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH' >PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' >PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel' >PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' >PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0502' >PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' >PROMPT = `$P$G' >PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 >\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] >$ ' >SHLVL = `3' >SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' >SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' >TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\zawe\LOCALS~1\Temp' >TERM = `xterm' >TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\zawe\LOCALS~1\Temp' >USERDOMAIN = `USZG' >USERNAME = `ZAWE' >USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\zawe' >WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' >WINDOWID = `29360142' >WMAKER_BIN_NAME = `wmaker' >WRASTER_COLOR_RESOLUTION0 = `4' >_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' > >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > (default) = `/cygdrive' > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ > (default) = `C:\cygwin' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin > (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib > (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts >v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > (default) = `C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts' > flags = 0x0000000a >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > >a: fd N/A N/A >c: hd NTFS 3075Mb 91% CP CS UN PA FC >d: fd N/A N/A >e: cd N/A N/A >f: net NTFS 100151Mb 39% CP CS UN PA FC >g: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >h: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >i: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >j: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >k: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >m: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >n: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >o: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >p: net NTFS 169561Mb 56% CP CS UN PA FC >s: net NTFS 204789Mb 52% CP CS UN PA FC >t: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >u: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC >w: net NTFS 204799Mb 68% CP CS UN PA FC > >C:\cygwin / system binmode >C:\cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode >C:\cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode >C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts system binmode >. /cygdrive user >binmode,cygdrive > >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/13 20:13 > 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/6 23:33 > 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 5:24 > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:28 > 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/19 19:05 > 17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 20:34 > 20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 17:27 > 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 11:24 > 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 1:28 > 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/23 21:54 > 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 10:09 > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:43 > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:43 > 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 21:19 > 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/8 16:46 > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:27 > 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:29 > 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:17 > 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:27 > 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03 > 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 14:15 > 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 14:15 > 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 11:53 > 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/23 19:22 > 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 17:05 > 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/8 22:45 > 108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 20:34 > 121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 17:27 > 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 5:24 > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:39 > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:39 > 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 0:34 > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/25 17:43 > 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/11 20:38 > 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/23 19:31 > Cygwin DLL version info: > DLL version: 1.3.11 > DLL epoch: 19 > DLL bad signal mask: 19005 > DLL old termios: 5 > DLL malloc env: 28 > API major: 0 > API minor: 53 > Shared data: 3 > DLL identifier: cygwin1 > Mount registry: 2 > Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > Cygwin registry name: Cygwin > Program options name: Program Options > Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > Cygdrive default prefix: > Build date: Sun Jun 23 22:31:15 EDT 2002 > CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-11-3 > Shared id: cygwin1S3 > > 47k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygpbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygpbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 11:58 > 7k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygpgm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygpgm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 12:03 > 26k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygpnm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygpnm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 12:20 > 31k 2002/02/23 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\netpbm\cygppm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 >sys=4.0 > "cygppm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/23 12:07 > >Cygwin Package Information >Last downloaded files to: C:\zasha\downloads >Last downloaded files from: ftp://ftp.oav.net/cygwin > >Package Version >WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 >XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 >XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 >XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 >XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 >XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 >_update-info-dir 00012-1 >ash 20020131-1 >autoconf 2.53a-1 >autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 >autoconf-stable 2.13-4 >automake 1.6.1-1 >automake-devel 1.6.1-3 >automake-stable 1.4p5-5 >bash 2.05a-3 >binutils 20011002-1 >bzip2 1.0.2-2 >clear 1.0-1 >crypt 1.0-1 >cvs 1.11.0-1 >cygrunsrv 0.95-1 >cygutils 1.1.1-1 >cygwin 1.3.11-3 >cygwin-doc 1.0-1 >diff 1.0-1 >diffutils 2.8.1-1 >enscript 1.6.3-2 >fileutils 4.1-1 >findutils 4.1.7-4 >fvwm 2.4.7-2 >gawk 3.0.4-1 >gcc 2.95.3-5 >gdb 20010428-3 >gdbm 1.8.0-4 >gettext 0.11.2-2 >ghostscript 6.51-4 >gnugo 3.2-1 >grep 2.5-1 >groff 1.17.2-1 >gzip 1.3.2-1 >inetutils 1.3.2-18 >jpeg 6b-7 >less 374-1 >lesstif 0.93.18-3 >libPropList 0.10.1-3 >libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 >libiconv2 1.8-2 >libintl 0.10.38-3 >libintl1 0.10.40-1 >libintl2 0.11.2-2 >libncurses5 5.2-1 >libncurses6 5.2-8 >libpng 1.2.3-1 >libpng10 1.0.13-3 >libpng12 1.2.3-1 >libpng2 1.0.12-1 >libpopt0 1.6.4-4 >libreadline4 4.1-2 >libreadline5 4.2a-1 >libtool 20020202a-1 >libtool-devel 20020502-2 >libtool-stable 1.4.2-2 >login 1.4-3 >m4 0.0 >make 3.79.1-7 >man 1.5g-2 >mingw-runtime 2.0-2 >mktemp 1.4-1 >mod_ssl 2.8.8-1.3.24-1 >ncurses 5.2-8 >openbox 0.99.1-3 >opengl 1.1.0-6 >openssh 3.4p1-1 >openssl 0.9.6d-1 >pcre 3.7-1 >perl 5.6.1-2 >pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 >popt 1.6.4-4 >python 2.2.1-1 >rcs 5.7-3 >readline 4.2a-1 >sed 3.02-1 >sh-utils 2.0-2 >tar 1.13.19-1 >tcltk 20001125-1 >tcsh 6.11.00-4 >termcap 20020403-1 >terminfo 5.2-3 >texinfo 4.2-3 >textutils 2.0.21-1 >tiff 3.5.7-1 >w32api 1.5-1 >wget 1.8.1-1 >which 1.5-1 >x2x 1.27-1 >zlib 1.1.4-1 > >Use -h to see help about each section > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Aug 19 22:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:51:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs Message-ID: <200208192040.g7JKeWE44486@pilot03.cl.msu.edu> Alexander Gottwald said: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Michael, > > > > Oh, you are only missing about 30 pages that describe exactly how to build > > XFree86 for Cygwin: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > > > Start with those. It is unlikely that you will have problems. > > It seems like the PROGRAMS vs. PROG_EXE problem. Didn't the patch got into > CVS? > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > What patch? Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why we cannot use PROGRAMS? If not, then don't submit a patch. PROGS_EXE fixes a very specific problem and it was rather difficult to come up with that workaround. Search the mailing list archive or look at the commit log for cygwin.rules if you have any questions about what it fixes. Actually, it is right here: http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules.diff? r1=3.12&r2=3.13&f=h The original comment was: /* * ComplexProgramTarget_X, where 1 <= X <= 10, are all broken. * 1 is broken because 2 and 3 are not built during the make World pass, * 2 and 3 are only built later, during the make install pass. * 1 is also broken because there are now 10 ComplexProgramTargets instead * of 3. * * 1's problem is that PROGRAM2 and PROGRAM3 are not defined at the time * that 1 is processed, so the AllTarget(), DependTarget(), and LintTarget () * only apply to PROGRAM1, not to PROGRAM2 and PROGRAM3. However, we can't * simply set the AllTarget() to PROGRAMS, as Imake.rules does, as the * executable names in PROGRAMS are not wrapped in ProgramTargetName(). * * Fixing the ComplexProgramTargets will require some way of pulling out * each exectuable name from PROGRAMS, wrapping it in ProgramTargetName(), * then concatenating the resulting list back into PROGRAMS. We would * then only have to define ComplexProgramTarget_1, letting 2 through 10 * be defined by Imake.rules. * * Good luck. For now I am inclined to leave these rules slightly broken. */ I haven't had a single problem with this solution, nor has Alan Hourihane (at least none that he has mentioned to me). As far as I am concerned, until I see a step-by-step test case proving otherwise, there is no problem. I will not accept any patch that ``fixes'' the build by removing the PROGS_EXE functionality. If you have a specific executable that is not supposed to have its name wrapped with ProgramTargetName, then you need to fix the Imakefile for that executable, not cygwin.rules. If you have a specific version of make or if you are using a host version of imake that is causing problems, then you need to work that issue out on your own and see if you can come up with a more compatible solution. Until then, PROGS_EXE stays. 'Nuff said. Harold From ahmed.a.helmy@intel.com Tue Aug 20 02:03:00 2002 From: ahmed.a.helmy@intel.com (Helmy, Ahmed A) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:03:00 -0000 Subject: Can't open display Message-ID: <2B4461BF89BAD511A86100508B66D53804B3A759@fmsmsx112.fm.intel.com> Hi All, I have installed the cygwin-xfree package. the bash shell is working fine but I can't get the x server to work. when I type xeyes or xclock it gave me a can't open display error message. although when I type X it opens a window that has nothing in it. could any body help Thanks From cbgenrich@yahoo.com Tue Aug 20 02:24:00 2002 From: cbgenrich@yahoo.com (CB Genrich) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:24:00 -0000 Subject: XWin fails to render KDE properly Message-ID: <00a101c2480d$9cf9b360$0100a8c0@CBGJ> I have this working on a similar XP box across the room. But can't get it to work on this XP box. This one has an NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/400 and also an NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/100. Two display adapters, two monitors. XWin gets and renders a Linux XDM login screen properly. After login, the KDE splash screen isn't properly rendered, and so it goes for much of KDE. We're talking KDE 3.0. The splash screen sequences through a half dozen little icons and writes a text description at the bottom of the splash screen as it progresses. The problem is first observed in that the icons are not shown and the text messages over-write one another without erasing the previous ones. The KDE desktop is rendered but almost no icons are shown. etc. The working XP box had the same problem and it was resolved when I went to XWin -fullscreen -depth 24 (as I recall). Can someone suggest a path for me to take to get this working? -CB- cbgenrich@yahoo.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 05:48:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 05:48:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: <3D611E77.6B568009@stepmind.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Bertrand Muquet wrote: > Hello > > I've got a problem running xdvi with Xfree 86 > When Xdvi shall display .eps files, it does not work > and I get the fwg msg: > gs: unknown device:X11 This message is coming from ghostscript. This gs is not compiled with X11 support. Recompile ghostscript to use X11 as output device. Or ask the maintainer of ghostscript if he could provide packages with X11 support. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 06:13:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:13:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <200208192040.g7JKeWE44486@pilot03.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why we cannot use > PROGRAMS? No. PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the contains xterm.exe.exe bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 20 06:20:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:20:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > > > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why > we cannot use > > PROGRAMS? > > No. > PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But > the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. > > So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the > contains xterm.exe.exe > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 08:07:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:07:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because > some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro > accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. > On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this > makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the > target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName > wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Ok. I just checked some Imakefiles. You're right. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 08:13:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <878z34jcl2.fsf@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: On 18 Aug 2002, Michael D. Harnois wrote: > make[4]: *** No rule to make target `lndir.exe.o', needed by `lndir.exe'. > gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I../.. -I../../exports/i The Imakefile is broken: #if HasSymLinks #if CrossCompiling LNDIR_PROG = HostProgramTargetName(lndir) #else LNDIR_PROG = ProgramTargetName(lndir) #endif #endif ... #if HasSymLinks #if CrossCompiling SimpleHostProgramTarget_2(lndir) #else AllTarget($(LNDIR_PROG)) SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) #endif #endif So you see, it substitutes SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir.exe) which is wrong. This should bo SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir). bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From mharnois@cpinternet.com Tue Aug 20 08:42:00 2002 From: mharnois@cpinternet.com (Michael Harnois) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:42:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have now searched my log ... the problem applies to lndir, rman, makestrs, revpath, bitmap, bmtoa, atobm, proxymngr, xclipboard, xcutsel, xdm, xdmshell, sessreg, chooser, xfindproxy, xinit, and xsm. Michael D. Harnois 2L, University of St. Thomas School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:48 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > > > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why > we cannot use > > PROGRAMS? > > No. > PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But > the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. > > So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the > contains xterm.exe.exe > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From mharnois@cpinternet.com Tue Aug 20 08:56:00 2002 From: mharnois@cpinternet.com (Michael Harnois) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:56:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oooh. This is stranger than I thought. Some of those programs do get built correctly, despite the log messages. For instance in config/util, makestrs, revpath, and rman build ... but lndir doesn't. Michael D. Harnois 2L, University of St. Thomas School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Michael Harnois Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:08 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs I have now searched my log ... the problem applies to lndir, rman, makestrs, revpath, bitmap, bmtoa, atobm, proxymngr, xclipboard, xcutsel, xdm, xdmshell, sessreg, chooser, xfindproxy, xinit, and xsm. Michael D. Harnois 2L, University of St. Thomas School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:48 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs If that is the case then the Imakefile for xterm needs to be fixed because some non-Cygwin programmer that has an empty ProgramTargetName macro accidentally wrapped each target name in PROGRAMS with ProgramTargetName. On their non-Cygwin platform this makes no difference, but on Cygwin this makes a huge difference because our ProgramTargetName appends .exe to the target name. Thus, someone simply needs to remove the ProgramTargetName wrappings from xterm's Imakefile and submit that as a patch. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote: > > > Do you understand what PROGS_EXE is for? Do you understand why > we cannot use > > PROGRAMS? > > No. > PROGS_EXE is simply all strings from PROGRAMS with .exe added. But > the .exe is already added before ComplexTarget is called. > > So if eg. compiling xterm, PROGRAMS contains xterm.exe and PROGS_EXE the > contains xterm.exe.exe > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 20 10:27:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:27:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020820154243.61078.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Bertrand Muquet wrote: > > > Hello > > > > I've got a problem running xdvi with Xfree 86 > > When Xdvi shall display .eps files, it does not work > > and I get the fwg msg: > > gs: unknown device:X11 > > This message is coming from ghostscript. This gs is not compiled > with X11 > support. > > Recompile ghostscript to use X11 as output device. Or ask the > maintainer > of ghostscript if he could provide packages with X11 support. > Actually, this is not true. The ghostscript-x11 package contains the X11 gs binary, and installs it in /usr/X11R6/bin. So all he has to do, if it is possible, is to tell Xdvi to use that binary instead. I have no idea how to do that, though. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 20 11:26:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:26:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: <20020820154243.61078.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > So all he has to > do, if it is possible, is to tell Xdvi to use that binary instead. I > have no idea how to do that, though. man xdvi -interpreter filename (.interpreter) Use filename as the Ghostscript in? terpreter. By default it uses gs. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From bernie@fantasyfarm.com Wed Aug 21 01:35:00 2002 From: bernie@fantasyfarm.com (Bernie Cosell) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:35:00 -0000 Subject: Setting up a minimal "Xterminal" package Message-ID: <3D624321.6476.684EB715@localhost> As part of a guerilla effort to get the college I teach at to be more Linux- accepting, I'd like to put together as small and simple a package as possible that I can drop onto a Windows box that'll turn it into an Xterminal running Gnome off of a nearby RedHat box. Is there some howto or other docs/messages that describe how to do this ? I figure all I need is XWin.exe and enough DLLs to make it happy [and probably some setup/config files], but I don't know enough about the intricacies of the distro to know if that's even correct, much less how to extract that subset and install *just*that*much* by itself, and I know I'm in WAY over my head on this... my goal here is to repackage *JUST* the pieces I'll need in a self-contained, self-installing zip archive, so that the students will be just "one click" away from being able to connect to the Unix server and run GNOME off of it [and they'll have to do it every day, because the PC-lab-police wipe the HD and reimage the HD every night! UGH!! Hence it needs to be fairly easy, uncomplicated, etc] Thanks! /Bernie\-- Bernie Cosell Fantasy Farm Fibers mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com Pearisburg, VA --> Too many people, too few sheep <-- From nwourms@yahoo.com Wed Aug 21 01:58:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:58:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Xdvi using Xfree 86 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020820182648.69048.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > So all he has to > > do, if it is possible, is to tell Xdvi to use that binary > instead. I > > have no idea how to do that, though. > > man xdvi > -interpreter filename > (.interpreter) Use filename as the Ghostscript in?? > terpreter. By default it uses gs. Well I was trying to encourage him to look up the answer himself rather then just give to him. Oh well... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Wed Aug 21 02:16:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 02:16:00 -0000 Subject: Can't open display In-Reply-To: <2B4461BF89BAD511A86100508B66D53804B3A759@fmsmsx112.fm.intel.com> References: <2B4461BF89BAD511A86100508B66D53804B3A759@fmsmsx112.fm.intel.com> Message-ID: <20020821093336.09eaf3d8.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:14:40 -0700 "Helmy, Ahmed A" wrote: > Hi All, > > I have installed the cygwin-xfree package. the bash shell is working fine > but I can't get > the x server to work. when I type xeyes or xclock it gave me a can't open > display error > message. although when I type X it opens a window that has nothing in it. > > could any body help > > Thanks Use startxwin.bat or, preferably, startxwin.sh from within a bash window. Both are in /usr/X11R6/bin Jim From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk Wed Aug 21 03:53:00 2002 From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 03:53:00 -0000 Subject: a small problem In-Reply-To: References: <20020818075314.2a892283.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020821095645.13c64086.jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk> On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:34:40 +0530 (IST) "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > Hi Jim, > I've checked it out! There is no firewall present! Could u think > of any other factors??? > Rahul. > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Jim George wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:21:05 +0530 (IST) > > "Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086" wrote: > > > > > I am facing this problem whenever I connect to a remote system in linux > > > and try exporting DISPLAY to the Xserver running on my local PC in > > > windows. The details are below. > > > > > > First my pc is running cygwin-Xserver in Windows. > > > > > > Next I telnet to a remote machine in linux and run the command > > > export DISPLAY=mypc_ip:0.0 > > > > > > Now when I run a command like > > > xterm & > > > > > > I get the following message > > > Cant connect to mypc_ip:0.0 > > > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that I have already run 'xhost +' in startxwin file so > > > that I give permission to all clients to access the Xserver. > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me out!!! > > > > > > Rahul. > > Rahul, > > > > at first sight this looks like a firewall issue. You appear to have X disabled. > > > > Jim > > > > -- Rahul, if it wasn't the firewall...are you able to run X applications on your local server? Try starting X using startxwin.sh or .bat then run xeyes or something from your xterm. What do you get when you echo $DISPLAY on your cygwin X-Server? What do you get when you echo $DISPLAY on your remote Linux system? Can you 'ping' mypc_ip from Linux? Jim From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Wed Aug 21 04:45:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 04:45:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:13:50 -0500, "Michael Harnois" wrote: >Oooh. This is stranger than I thought. Some of those programs do get built >correctly, despite the log messages. For instance in config/util, makestrs, >revpath, and rman build ... but lndir doesn't. Probably because "gcc -o foo" yields foo.exe automatically but unfortunately dependencies and so forth won't know that. Your average "configure & make" app can sometimes get away with it - only to fail on the install & uninstall (good indication of this problem existing is make invokes the linker even though the last make succeeded). Sadly this is my first forray into the world of Imake so take my advice for this particular problem with a strong pinch of salt. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From rasjidw@openminddev.net Wed Aug 21 06:31:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 06:31:00 -0000 Subject: Setting up a minimal "Xterminal" package In-Reply-To: <3D624321.6476.684EB715@localhost> References: <3D624321.6476.684EB715@localhost> Message-ID: <200208212053.57808.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 3:24 am, Bernie Cosell wrote: > As part of a guerilla effort to get the college I teach at to be more > Linux- accepting, I'd like to put together as small and simple a package as > possible that I can drop onto a Windows box that'll turn it into an > Xterminal running Gnome off of a nearby RedHat box. Is there some howto or > other docs/messages that describe how to do this ? I figure all I need is > XWin.exe and enough DLLs to make it happy [and probably some setup/config > files], but I don't know enough about the intricacies of the distro to know > if that's even correct, much less how to extract that subset and install > *just*that*much* by itself, and I know I'm in WAY over my head on this... > > my goal here is to repackage *JUST* the pieces I'll need in a > self-contained, self-installing zip archive, so that the students will be > just "one click" away from being able to connect to the Unix server and run > GNOME off of it [and they'll have to do it every day, because the > PC-lab-police wipe the HD and reimage the HD every night! UGH!! Hence it > needs to be fairly easy, uncomplicated, etc] A quick search of the archives on the word 'minimal' would have given results. In particular, have a look at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/, posts from 14-16 June. What you are after has been done by several people, including myself. My initial version in fact required nothing to be installed on the Windows machines. The whole thing can be run from a Samba share on the linux box, and the Windows users just click on a shortcut in that share (or copy it to their desktop etc). See http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00237.html for further details. I also have a fairly comprehensive set of instructions for enabling XDMCP on RedHat 7.3. I can send you these if you like, although I'm assuming you have got that sorted out already. I hope you are aware that XDMCP sessions are very insecure, which may or may not be acceptable in the environement you are proposing. If you want support for encrypted sessions via ssh, then it all gets more complicated, and you will either need to do a lot of learning yourself, or you could offer to help with an existing (sub)project (or both!). Rasjid. From postmaster@adenet.ch Wed Aug 21 08:15:00 2002 From: postmaster@adenet.ch (Adam B. Dombi) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:15:00 -0000 Subject: Technical Questions Message-ID: <000701c24907$f49b1c80$85fcfea9@t031> Dear Ladies and Gentlemen I'm student at the University for applied sciences Rapperswil in Switzerland. (www.hsr.ch) Can you tell me, where I will find informations about: a) Methods in Cygwin C++ for get a Keycode. I plan to write a class, that formats Input fields on c console- screen - like good old Clipper did it years ago. b) A reference for the Win32-API-Interface Thank you in advance! With best Regards A. Dombi, adombi@hsr.ch || postmaster@adenet.ch From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 21 12:58:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:58:00 -0000 Subject: Technical Questions In-Reply-To: <000701c24907$f49b1c80$85fcfea9@t031> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Adam B. Dombi wrote: > b) A reference for the Win32-API-Interface The Microsoft Developer Network has such a reference. msdn.microsoft.com bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cbgenrich@yahoo.com Wed Aug 21 19:32:00 2002 From: cbgenrich@yahoo.com (CB Genrich) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:32:00 -0000 Subject: XWin fails to render KDE properly References: <00a101c2480d$9cf9b360$0100a8c0@CBGJ> Message-ID: <008701c24925$a2af24c0$0100a8c0@CBGJ> What is the state of Xinerama on Cygwin? Could the dual-head nature of this setup be the problem? ----- Original Message ----- From: "CB Genrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: XWin fails to render KDE properly > I have this working on a similar XP box across the room. > But can't get it to work on this XP box. > > This one has an NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/400 and also an > NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/100. Two display adapters, two > monitors. > > XWin gets and renders a Linux XDM login screen properly. > > After login, the KDE splash screen isn't properly rendered, > and so it goes for much of KDE. > > We're talking KDE 3.0. The splash screen sequences > through a half dozen little icons and writes a text description > at the bottom of the splash screen as it progresses. > > The problem is first observed in that the icons are not shown > and the text messages over-write one another without erasing > the previous ones. The KDE desktop is rendered but almost > no icons are shown. etc. > > The working XP box had the same problem and it was resolved > when I went to XWin -fullscreen -depth 24 (as I recall). > > Can someone suggest a path for me to take to get this > working? > > -CB- cbgenrich@yahoo.com From c_twiner@hotmail.com Fri Aug 23 00:02:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:02:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, I'm a first time poster so appologies if I've misunderstood the etiquette rules or not found a previous answer to this. The message at : http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-01/msg00213.html Lists polling as an unsatisfactory way of handling the ownership setting issue. Whilst I agree I do have a slight variation to question on. If a windows hook were used i.e. SetWindowsHookEx would this not tell you when the XWin looses focus. Would this not be a good time to claim ownership of selection and ask for it's content. The reverse would also be true that you could use the time when XWin gains focus to handle the setting ownership of PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD to hold the windows clipboard data. Again excuse the ignorance if this isn't helpful in anyway. I only started looking at xwinclip 3 days ago and I'd never seen X development before that. Hope it is helpful, Chris Twiner _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From peterpan@sc23.sc.mcel.mot.com Fri Aug 23 02:19:00 2002 From: peterpan@sc23.sc.mcel.mot.com (Peter.Pan) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 02:19:00 -0000 Subject: How to display chinese words in X of cygwin using QT2 Message-ID: <000701c24a02$53a53080$b60879c8@sc.mcel.mot.com> Hi, My work needs to display chinese words in X. I use the latest cygwin version with XFree 86 4.x. And my application uses QT2 library. I add simsun font to X by using "xset +fp ..." command. There is no error response. And I can find the font has been added successfully because I can find simsun by using "xlsfonts" command. But I can not display simsun font correctly by using "xfd" command to display that font. Of course, my application can not display chinese words correctly. I have tried to set environment variables such as "LC_ALL" & "LANG" just like in linux. But soonI found it is no use. The font I added is TTF font. The release notes of XFree86 4.x says by now XFree86 supports TTF by using module loader. But I don't know how to modify its config file to load that loader. In fact, I haven't found it's config file in cygwin because it is not the same as in linux. Would you please give me a hand? Thanks a lot. From henocq@gesma.fr Fri Aug 23 05:12:00 2002 From: henocq@gesma.fr (Hugues Henocq) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 05:12:00 -0000 Subject: XWin problems Message-ID: <3D65E2A6.20ACF3@gesma.fr> Hy, I have installed Xfree86 on my PC running in WIN NT using XWin-Test65. I noticed these 2 problems: -XWin -h does not work (option -h doesn't work. -XWin at start up does not read the config file even if I use option -xf86config, so in order to configure my French keyboard, I must need the option -xkbmap "xfree86(fr)" on the command line and add some fonts with option -fp tcp/.... in order to reach server HP or solaris. Is it normal or do I have a bad configuration ? Hugues H??nocq. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 23 05:58:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 05:58:00 -0000 Subject: XWin problems In-Reply-To: <3D65E2A6.20ACF3@gesma.fr> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Hugues Henocq wrote: > Hy, > > I have installed Xfree86 on my PC running in WIN NT using XWin-Test65. I > noticed these 2 problems: > > -XWin -h does not work (option -h doesn't work. The output is written to /tmp/XWin.log. > -XWin at start up does not read the config file even if I use option > -xf86config, so in order to configure my French keyboard, I must > need the option -xkbmap "xfree86(fr)" on the command line and add some > fonts with option -fp tcp/.... in order to reach server HP or solaris. > Is it normal or do I have a bad configuration ? This is not normal. What messages are in /tmp/XWin.log ? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Fri Aug 23 07:11:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:11:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> References: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <3d6724fa.283144340@smtp.ntlworld.com> Hi Folks, First off, my apologies to all for not replying, especially to Alexander. It simply takes an age to rebuild xfree here. One typo and a rebuild has to wait until the next night! :-( Am I on the right track - ie have I broken all the non-cygwin builds? It builds natively and a cursory "make -n install" within 'config/util' looks like the '.exe' extenders are correct. --- obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-21 13:44:21.000000000 +0100 +++ obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile 2002-08-21 15:35:08.000000000 +0100 @@ -29,8 +29,8 @@ RMAN_PROG = HostProgramTargetName(rman) #endif -PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ - ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) +PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) + DEPLIBS = #ifndef Win32Architecture EXTRA_LIBRARIES = @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ SimpleHostProgramTarget_2(lndir) #else AllTarget($(LNDIR_PROG)) -SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) +SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) #endif #endif #endif @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ AllTarget(HostProgramTargetName(rman)) SimpleHostProgramTarget_3(rman) #else -AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) +AllTarget(rman) SimpleProgramTarget_5(rman) #endif SpecialCObjectRule(rman,NullParameter,-DVOLLIST='$(VOLLIST)' -DMANTITLEPRINTF='$(MANTITLEPRINTF)' -DMANREFPRINTF='$(MANREFPRINTF)' -DPOLYGLOTMANVERSION='$(RMANVERSION)' -DXFree86) I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post details? Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are sorted out. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 23 08:01:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:01:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6724fa.283144340@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > > I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post > details? You could send a diff against current CVS >Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a > header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are > sorted out. Please send the output from that error bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From rrschulz@cris.com Fri Aug 23 08:26:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:26:00 -0000 Subject: XWin problems In-Reply-To: <3D65E2A6.20ACF3@gesma.fr> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020823071008.01fad648@pop3.cris.com> Hi, What does this undocumented "-h" option do? Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 00:22 2002-08-23, Hugues Henocq wrote: >Hy, > >I have installed Xfree86 on my PC running in WIN NT using XWin-Test65. >I noticed these 2 problems: > >-XWin -h does not work (option -h doesn't work. > >... > >Is it normal or do I have a bad configuration ? > >Hugues H?nocq. From j-meister@home.com Fri Aug 23 08:46:00 2002 From: j-meister@home.com (Jeff M.) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:46:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <002501c24ab6$06626450$3aff3244@cp773274a> Very newbie-ish question, sorry. When I start X by any of the methods in startup-scripts.tgz, it makes the display window where obviously everything is supposed to happen, but before I can even get a good look at it, the blank white window disappears, and the other scripts run by the startup script report that they can't open display 127.0.0.1:0.0. Ideas? - Jeff Meister From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Aug 23 08:47:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:47:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... In-Reply-To: <002501c24ab6$06626450$3aff3244@cp773274a> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Jeff M. wrote: > Very newbie-ish question, sorry. > > When I start X by any of the methods in startup-scripts.tgz, it makes the > display window where obviously everything is supposed to happen, but before > I can even get a good look at it, the blank white window disappears, and the > other scripts run by the startup script report that they can't open display > 127.0.0.1:0.0. Please send /tmp/XWin.log. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From j-meister@home.com Fri Aug 23 14:48:00 2002 From: j-meister@home.com (Jeff M.) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <001d01c24abc$5677e400$3aff3244@cp773274a> Contents of XWin.log are: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864 ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 - Jeff Meister From j-meister@home.com Fri Aug 23 14:51:00 2002 From: j-meister@home.com (Jeff M.) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:51:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <002d01c24abc$7820ae70$3aff3244@cp773274a> Contents of XWin.log are: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864 ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 - Jeff Meister From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Aug 23 15:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:32:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6724fa.283144340@smtp.ntlworld.com> from "Guy Harrison" at Aug 23, 2002 12:10:26 pm Message-ID: <200208232148.g7NLm6P158390@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Well, I can't offer any help because I have no idea what you are doing. In order for me to help, or for me to even investigate this problem any further, you are going to have to follow, exactly, the instructions for compiling that are in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide (http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/). You will then have to be very clear about whether you are cross compiling or whether you are building on Cygwin, and you will have to tell me the precise step in the Contributor's Guide instructions that you start to have problems at. You will also have to send in your World.log file (which will be generated if you follow the CG instructions). I simply cannot spend time debugging each developers command-sequence that they use for building. You've got to stick to the prescribed sequence in order to get help from me. Until then, Harold > > > Hi Folks, > > =46irst off, my apologies to all for not replying, especially to > Alexander. It simply takes an age to rebuild xfree here. One typo and a > rebuild has to wait until the next night! :-( > > Am I on the right track - ie have I broken all the non-cygwin builds? It > builds natively and a cursory "make -n install" within 'config/util' > looks like the '.exe' extenders are correct. > > --- obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile.ORIGINAL 2002-08-21 > 13:44:21.000000000 +0100 > +++ obj-dbg/config/util/Imakefile 2002-08-21 15:35:08.000000000 > +0100 > @@ -29,8 +29,8 @@ > RMAN_PROG =3D HostProgramTargetName(rman) > #endif > =20 > -PROGRAMS =3D $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ > - ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > +PROGRAMS =3D rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > + > DEPLIBS =3D > #ifndef Win32Architecture > EXTRA_LIBRARIES =3D > @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ > SimpleHostProgramTarget_2(lndir) > #else > AllTarget($(LNDIR_PROG)) > -SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) > +SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) > #endif > #endif > #endif > @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ > AllTarget(HostProgramTargetName(rman)) > SimpleHostProgramTarget_3(rman) > #else > -AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) > +AllTarget(rman) > SimpleProgramTarget_5(rman) > #endif > SpecialCObjectRule(rman,NullParameter,-DVOLLIST=3D'$(VOLLIST)' > -DMANTITLEPRINTF=3D'$(MANTITLEPRINTF)' -DMANREFPRINTF=3D'$(MANREFPRINTF)' > -DPOLYGLOTMANVERSION=3D'$(RMANVERSION)' -DXFree86) > > I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post > details? Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a > header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are > sorted out. > > > --=20 > swamp-dog@ntlworld.com > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Aug 23 15:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:50:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... In-Reply-To: <002d01c24abc$7820ae70$3aff3244@cp773274a> from "Jeff M." at Aug 23, 2002 11:48:04 am Message-ID: <200208232151.g7NLpcu158418@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> We need to know what version of Cygwin/XFree86 you have installed, so run this command from a Cygwin bash prompt and send in the results: cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Thanks, Harold > > Contents of XWin.log are: > > ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864 > ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 > > - Jeff Meister > > From jeff@nanaki.net Sun Aug 25 04:51:00 2002 From: jeff@nanaki.net (Jeff M.) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 04:51:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... Message-ID: <000701c24af5$23ea5d40$3aff3244@cp773274a> Heh. Didn't quite work. I'm pretty sure I have the newest version as I just downloaded Cygwin yesterday... unless the server I got it from had an outdated version. When I tried running X again just now, I got the IO error 104 that is referred to in the FAQ, but that pointed me to the solution to another problem, and it didn't really tell me anything to do. There was a test binary of a new XWin.exe, so I downloaded that and replaced, but I still get the same thing: window flicks on and then off, and then since it's not there, all the other scripts fail to run. And here's what happened when I tried that command: Administrator@cp773274-a ~ $ cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Cygwin Package Information Package Version Use -h to see help about each section Administrator@cp773274-a ~ $ Poo. Heh. - Jeff Meister From rrschulz@cris.com Sun Aug 25 07:22:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:22:00 -0000 Subject: X Starts, Then Stops... In-Reply-To: <000701c24af5$23ea5d40$3aff3244@cp773274a> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020823154238.02099cd8@pop3.cris.com> Jeff, You should note that "cygcheck -c " does not issue a diagnostic when is not the name of an installed package. That suggests that you don't have the XFree86-xserv package installed or something went wrong with the installation or damaged it after it was installed. Here's what my system reports: % cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv Cygwin Package Information Package Version XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-10 Use -h to see help about each section % cygcheck -c XFree86-nosuch Cygwin Package Information Package Version Use -h to see help about each section It also seems that the "Use -h to see help about each section" message is spurious when a proper invocation is given. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 15:33 2002-08-23, Jeff M. wrote: >Heh. Didn't quite work. I'm pretty sure I have the newest version as I just >downloaded Cygwin yesterday... unless the server I got it from had an >outdated version. > >When I tried running X again just now, I got the IO error 104 that is >referred to in the FAQ, but that pointed me to the solution to another >problem, and it didn't really tell me anything to do. There was a test >binary of a new XWin.exe, so I downloaded that and replaced, but I still get >the same thing: window flicks on and then off, and then since it's not >there, all the other scripts fail to run. > >And here's what happened when I tried that command: > >Administrator@cp773274-a ~ >$ cygcheck -c XFree86-xserv >Cygwin Package Information >Package Version > >Use -h to see help about each section > >Administrator@cp773274-a ~ >$ > >Poo. Heh. > >- Jeff Meister From rahul@gdit.iiit.net Sun Aug 25 10:08:00 2002 From: rahul@gdit.iiit.net (Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:08:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window Message-ID: Hi, Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be appreciated. Rahul. From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sun Aug 25 14:15:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200208260022.18343.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 9:48 pm, Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, > ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be > appreciated. > Rahul. See http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html. It is at the top of the list, but Cygwin-XFree is developed in peoples spare time. Harold did offer to develop needed features in return for some renumeration. http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/msg00090.html I didn't respond to Harold's post at the time, as unfortunately I don't hold the purse strings where I work, but philosophically I am strongly in favour of people paying money to get features they want developed in Open-Source software. I have helped my workplace become a paying customer to two open-source products, Mitel's SME server and Astaro's Security Linux. If Harold had a pay pal account, I would happily contribute US$10, particularly if a number of other people did so too. Perhaps setting up some kind of pledge system. Something along the lines of: Task 1: Rootless mode ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Name | Amount Pledged | Contact | Rec'd | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Joe Blogs | $20 | joe.blogs@msn.com | Yes | | Mary Smith | $15 | ms@somedomain.com | | | etc.... Task 2: ...... Once the task is complete, someone follows up each pledge. I would suggest that that someone not be the developer(s). An automated system would be better. Anyone know of an existing system that could be coerced to do the task? Would RedHat be happy to host such a pledging system on their servers? I would be happy to host it on my sever. Note that it is only on an ADSL connection with a 64kbs uplink speed. However, it is up 24/7 and does have a fixed IP. The contact email address would need to be obscured from the spammers, or perhaps kept off public pages altogether. What do people think? Could it work? Is it already being done somewhere? I have just found some pages by Christopher Browne, called the "Free Software (Gift) Exchange Registry" (http://cbbrowne.com/info/fssp.html), but he just talks about a similar idea. There is no reference to someone actually putting his idea into practice. Christopher does raise the issue of gifts and tax, and his article is generally a good read. Rasjid. From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Aug 25 14:15:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window In-Reply-To: <200208260022.18343.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: Speaking of a PayPal account... I have one. I even set it up to accept credit card payments a few weeks ago, but I haven't yet put a link to it from my personal page. I think I now have some motivation to do so :) I'll will post once to the list to let people know that the link exists, and I'll make sure that there are links to my home page from the Cygwin/XFree86 page, but I won't put a PayPal link directly on the Cygwin/XFree86 page because I believe that would violate the spirit of the project. <--- That was just so that everyone knows that I will be ethical about this :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Rasjid Wilcox > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:22 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 > Subject: Re: displaying windows outside the main window > > > On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 9:48 pm, Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 wrote: > > Hi, > > Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, > > ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be > > appreciated. > > Rahul. > > See http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html. It is at the top > of the list, > but Cygwin-XFree is developed in peoples spare time. > > Harold did offer to develop needed features in return for some > renumeration. > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/msg00090.html > > I didn't respond to Harold's post at the time, as unfortunately I > don't hold > the purse strings where I work, but philosophically I am strongly > in favour > of people paying money to get features they want developed in Open-Source > software. I have helped my workplace become a paying customer to two > open-source products, Mitel's SME server and Astaro's Security Linux. > > If Harold had a pay pal account, I would happily contribute US$10, > particularly if a number of other people did so too. Perhaps > setting up some > kind of pledge system. Something along the lines of: > > Task 1: Rootless mode > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------- > |Name | Amount Pledged | Contact > | Rec'd | > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------- > | Joe Blogs | $20 | > joe.blogs@msn.com | Yes | > | Mary Smith | $15 | > ms@somedomain.com | | > | etc.... > > Task 2: ...... > > Once the task is complete, someone follows up each pledge. I > would suggest > that that someone not be the developer(s). An automated system would be > better. Anyone know of an existing system that could be coerced > to do the > task? > > Would RedHat be happy to host such a pledging system on their servers? I > would be happy to host it on my sever. Note that it is only on an ADSL > connection with a 64kbs uplink speed. However, it is up 24/7 and > does have a > fixed IP. > > The contact email address would need to be obscured from the spammers, or > perhaps kept off public pages altogether. > > What do people think? Could it work? Is it already being done somewhere? > > I have just found some pages by Christopher Browne, called the > "Free Software > (Gift) Exchange Registry" (http://cbbrowne.com/info/fssp.html), > but he just > talks about a similar idea. There is no reference to someone actually > putting his idea into practice. Christopher does raise the issue > of gifts > and tax, and his article is generally a good read. > > Rasjid. > From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Sun Aug 25 18:45:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:45:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <200208232148.g7NLm6P158390@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> References: <200208232148.g7NLm6P158390@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3d6c480d.488731809@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:48:05 -0400 (EDT), "Harold Leatherman Hunt II" wrote: >Well, I can't offer any help because I have no idea what you are doing. In >order for me to help, or for me to even investigate this problem any further, >you are going to have to follow, exactly, the instructions for compiling that >are in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide >(http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/). I have, except for the folders. I'm compiling into "obj-dbg" and "obj-rel" for debug and release versions respectively. Doesn't matter whether the build is (makeg.sh)debug or release: failures are at the same points. >You will then have to be very clear >about whether you are cross compiling or whether you are building on Cygwin, Building on Cygwin. NT Workstation SP6a RC1.28. CYGWIN="binmode ntsec codepage:oem" >and you will have to tell me the precise step in the Contributor's Guide >instructions that you start to have problems at. You will also have to send in >your World.log file (which will be generated if you follow the CG >instructions). Step 7. "make World" which for the most part works. It's simply a few ".exe" extensions getting added which are causing make's dependencies to fail. Typically foo.exe.exe but sometimes foo.exe.blah. As Alexander suggested, I performed (my first ever!) diff of my Imakefile alterations against CVS tonight. It ought to precisely identify the problem even if I've made a complete mess of doing them in the required format. >I simply cannot spend time debugging each developers command-sequence that they >use for building. You've got to stick to the prescribed sequence in order to >get help from me. Fair enough. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From swamp-dog@ntlworld.com Sun Aug 25 19:05:00 2002 From: swamp-dog@ntlworld.com (Guy Harrison) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:05:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d6b43f4.487682330@smtp.ntlworld.com> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:58:33 +0200 (CEST), Alexander Gottwald wrote: >On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > >> >> I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post >> details? > >You could send a diff against current CVS Here goes... Index: xc/config/util/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/config/util/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.45 diff -r3.45 Imakefile 32,33c32,33 < PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ < ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) --- > PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > 83c83 < SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) --- > SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) 114c114 < AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) --- > AllTarget(rman) Index: xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.7 diff -r3.7 Imakefile 56c56 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(bitmap) ProgramTargetName(bmtoa) ProgramTargetName(atobm) --- > PROGRAMS = bitmap bmtoa atobm Index: xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -r1.12 Imakefile 19c19 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(proxymngr) --- > PROGRAMS = proxymngr Index: xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -r1.3 Imakefile 11c11 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xclipboard) ProgramTargetName(xcutsel) --- > PROGRAMS = xclipboard xcutsel Index: xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.47 diff -r3.47 Imakefile 206c206 < XDM_SHADOW = ProgramTargetName(xdm-shadow) --- > XDM_SHADOW = xdm-shadow 209c209 < CHOOSER = ProgramTargetName(chooser) --- > CHOOSER = chooser 211c211 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xdm) ProgramTargetName(xdmshell) ProgramTargetName(sessreg) $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) --- > PROGRAMS = xdm xdmshell sessreg $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) Index: xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -r1.4 Imakefile 15c15 < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xfindproxy) --- > PROGS1 = xfindproxy Index: xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 3.16 diff -r3.16 Imakefile 24c24 < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xinit) --- > PROGRAMS = xinit Index: xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -r1.8 Imakefile 38c38 < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xsm) --- > PROGS1 = xsm ...it might even still cross-compile! ;-) >>Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a >> header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are >> sorted out. > >Please send the output from that error Cockpit error on this one (me using ccache): and no, I haven't been using it all the time. The main problem existed well before I thought about speeding things up with it. -- swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From mikeiannone@yahoo.com Mon Aug 26 00:20:00 2002 From: mikeiannone@yahoo.com (mike iannone) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:20:00 -0000 Subject: Utilities Message-ID: <20020826014539.1197.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com> Where do I get utilities for CyGwin...like vi, sed, more etc. ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From rrschulz@cris.com Mon Aug 26 01:25:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:25:00 -0000 Subject: Utilities In-Reply-To: <20020826014539.1197.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020825185237.02094f88@pop3.cris.com> Mike, Everything is accessible in one place (via many mirrors, of course): The Setup.exe program can download and install everything you're looking for, including (optionally) source code. If you want to know which package contains which file, go to and enter a file name (it's a good idea to include the ".exe" suffix for short names like "vi"). By the way, Cygwin makes a symlink to vim.exe providing the alias "vi", but the program is vim.exe. If you look for "vi.exe" you'll get packages that include executables whose (base) names end with "dvi" (TeX related, of course). Randall Schulz At 18:45 2002-08-25, mike iannone wrote: >Where do I get utilities for CyGwin...like vi, sed, >more etc. ? > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com Randy From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Mon Aug 26 04:11:00 2002 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 04:11:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: Hello, I don't use xkb extension and after each logon to AIX system run xmodmap .xmodmap.cz on my remote machine, where .xmodmap.cz is my keyboard definition file.This needs to by run just once, not for each terminal. Pavel Stephane Poirey cc: Sent by: Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, cygwin-xfree-owner@ spanish [...] users cygwin.com 05.08.2002 19:25 Please respond to cygwin-xfree I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past and there is probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, but I wanted to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they adopted (if the did'nt give up) ? From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Aug 26 07:01:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 07:01:00 -0000 Subject: displaying windows outside the main window In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Rahul Amaram-RollNo.2000086 wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, > ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be > appreciated. No. There is no way to do this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Aug 27 01:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:39:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6b43f4.487682330@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Guy, Okay, this looks reasonable. I will take a look at it and submit it when I get a chance. Classes start today, so it may be a few days. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Guy Harrison > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 5:13 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: building XFree86 from cvs > > > On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:58:33 +0200 (CEST), Alexander Gottwald > wrote: > > >On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: > > > >> > >> I've done similar to other Imakefiles that require it. Should I post > >> details? > > > >You could send a diff against current CVS > > Here goes... > > Index: xc/config/util/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/config/util/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.45 > diff -r3.45 Imakefile > 32,33c32,33 > < PROGRAMS = $(RMAN_PROG) $(LNDIR_PROG) ProgramTargetName(makestrs) \ > < ProgramTargetName(revpath) $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > --- > > PROGRAMS = rman lndir makestrs revpath $(EXPORTLISTGEN) $(CMKDIRHIER) > > > 83c83 > < SimpleProgramTarget_2($(LNDIR_PROG)) > --- > > SimpleProgramTarget_2(lndir) > 114c114 > < AllTarget(ProgramTargetName(rman)) > --- > > AllTarget(rman) > Index: xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/bitmap/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.7 > diff -r3.7 Imakefile > 56c56 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(bitmap) ProgramTargetName(bmtoa) > ProgramTargetName(atobm) > --- > > PROGRAMS = bitmap bmtoa atobm > Index: xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/proxymngr/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.12 > diff -r1.12 Imakefile > 19c19 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(proxymngr) > --- > > PROGRAMS = proxymngr > Index: xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xclipboard/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.3 > diff -r1.3 Imakefile > 11c11 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xclipboard) > ProgramTargetName(xcutsel) > --- > > PROGRAMS = xclipboard xcutsel > Index: xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xdm/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.47 > diff -r3.47 Imakefile > 206c206 > < XDM_SHADOW = ProgramTargetName(xdm-shadow) > --- > > XDM_SHADOW = xdm-shadow > 209c209 > < CHOOSER = ProgramTargetName(chooser) > --- > > CHOOSER = chooser > 211c211 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xdm) ProgramTargetName(xdmshell) > ProgramTargetName(sessreg) $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) > --- > > PROGRAMS = xdm xdmshell sessreg $(CHOOSER) $(XDM_SHADOW) > Index: xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xfindproxy/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.4 > diff -r1.4 Imakefile > 15c15 > < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xfindproxy) > --- > > PROGS1 = xfindproxy > Index: xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xinit/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 3.16 > diff -r3.16 Imakefile > 24c24 > < PROGRAMS = ProgramTargetName(xinit) > --- > > PROGRAMS = xinit > Index: xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/xsm/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > diff -r1.8 Imakefile > 38c38 > < PROGS1 = ProgramTargetName(xsm) > --- > > PROGS1 = xsm > > ...it might even still cross-compile! ;-) > > >>Only one problem left: xterm compilation error. Probably a > >> header which I don't want to look at until all these script issues are > >> sorted out. > > > >Please send the output from that error > > Cockpit error on this one (me using ccache): and no, I haven't been > using it all the time. The main problem existed well before I thought > about speeding things up with it. > > > -- > swamp-dog@ntlworld.com From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Tue Aug 27 05:47:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:47:00 -0000 Subject: Sorta OT - Imakefiles Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know how to "tell" an Imakefile to copy a shared-library and it's lib file to a user-specified location instead of the X directories? For example, I have the following Imakefile, and I'd like for the .DLL file to go to one directory, and its complimentary .LIB file to go to another directory; SRCS = ldlib.cpp OBJS = ldlib.o LIBNAME = ldlib CC = g++ -mno-cygwin SOREV = 1.0 INCLUDES = -I../../include DependTarget() SharedLibraryTarget($(LIBNAME),$(SOREV),$(OBJS),.,.) InstallSharedLibrary($(LIBNAME),$(SOREV),.) How do you get the InstallSharedLibrary target to copy the files to alternate destinations and not the default ones? From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Aug 27 08:05:00 2002 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: <20020731210915.R3921@cygbert.vinschen.de> References: <20020731172536.GA3120@redhat.com> <20020731175736.91097.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> <20020731210915.R3921@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <172-327782296.20020827103956@familiehaase.de> Corinna schrieb: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:57:36AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: >> --- Christopher Faylor wrote: >> > Well, AFAIK, YANAL and IANAL, so I don't know how you can make >> Can we please cut out the acronyms? We should be respectful of Ralf >> and others for whom English is a second[or third, etc.] language. > Why? I'm non-native, too, but actually I'm using acronyms as well. > *And* I have this one: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ Hmmm. I get: Sorry, YANAL was not found in the database. Gerrit -- =^..^= From tilps@hotmail.com Tue Aug 27 10:01:00 2002 From: tilps@hotmail.com (Gareth Pearce) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:01:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? Message-ID: >Corinna schrieb: > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:57:36AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > >> --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> > Well, AFAIK, YANAL and IANAL, so I don't know how you can make > > >> Can we please cut out the acronyms? We should be respectful of Ralf > >> and others for whom English is a second[or third, etc.] language. > > > Why? I'm non-native, too, but actually I'm using acronyms as well. > > > *And* I have this one: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ > >Hmmm. I get: > >Sorry, YANAL was not found in the database. woah, thats an old thread... I am guessing thats because YANAL isnt very common at all, but the author expected its meaning to be able to be derived from context. Noting similarities with IANAL, which is more common, Should be safe to guess that Y stands for a word of the same type as 'I' in the english language. Not a whole lot of Y words, 'You' being the solution. The first A thus changes from 'am' to 'are' to result in something which is more gramatically correct. Then again, I never seen it used before, so I could be wrong, but I suspect not. Gareth - ponders why he replied to this... *scratch* > > >Gerrit >-- >=^..^= _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Aug 27 10:54:00 2002 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:54:00 -0000 Subject: QT2 ready for ITP? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27-304636394.20020827170542@familiehaase.de> Gareth schrieb: > woah, thats an old thread... Yep, I was on vacation:-) Thanks for the clarification (TFTC). Gerrit -- =^..^= From jbuehler@hekimian.com Tue Aug 27 11:14:00 2002 From: jbuehler@hekimian.com (Joe Buehler) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:14:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request Message-ID: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> I recently ported GNU emacs to Cygwin. It would help reduce the disk space requirements if some refinement was done on the xfree packaging. The particular thing that is immediately obvious is that the dll's that emacs requires are in the XFree86-bin package, along with a *lot* of other stuff that emacs does not require. A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 client needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. Joe Buehler From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Aug 27 12:18:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Joe Buehler wrote: > A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 client > needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. You can strip fonts too. They are only needed for server. Anf most config files too. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 12:37:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:37:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6859b8.100038888@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20020827181456.54387.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> --- Guy Harrison wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:13:50 -0500, "Michael Harnois" > wrote: > > >Oooh. This is stranger than I thought. Some of those programs do > get built > >correctly, despite the log messages. For instance in config/util, > makestrs, > >revpath, and rman build ... but lndir doesn't. > > Probably because "gcc -o foo" yields foo.exe automatically but > unfortunately dependencies and so forth won't know that. Your > average > "configure & make" app can sometimes get away with it - only to > fail on > the install & uninstall (good indication of this problem existing > is > make invokes the linker even though the last make succeeded). Sadly > this > is my first forray into the world of Imake so take my advice for > this > particular problem with a strong pinch of salt. You'd think TOG would get a clue and switch to the autotools... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Aug 27 13:58:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:58:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> Message-ID: <20020827191800.67757.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> --- Joe Buehler wrote: > I recently ported GNU emacs to Cygwin. It would help reduce the > disk space requirements if some refinement was done on the xfree > packaging. > > The particular thing that is immediately obvious is that the dll's > that > emacs requires are in the XFree86-bin package, along with a *lot* > of other stuff that emacs does not require. > > A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 > client > needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. Well tell your emacs people that they'll just have to download the same way we all do. If they want a pretty package, they can use Xemacs. Is the install really that big for emacs people? After all, if you want simplicity, use vi. It only requires terminfo, ash, and the cygwin.dll. The point is that this has been discussed to death and it was decided [not by me] that oficially nothing different will be done at this time. You are welcome to host your own web page with a custom install, though. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Wed Aug 28 00:22:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:22:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020827193731.31527.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz wrote: > > Hello, > > I don't use xkb extension and after each logon to AIX system run > > xmodmap .xmodmap.cz > > on my remote machine, where .xmodmap.cz is my keyboard definition > file.This > needs to by run just once, not for each terminal. > > Pavel > > > > > > > Stephane Poirey > > > cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > m> cc: > > > Sent by: Subject: Using > Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, > french, > cygwin-xfree-owner@ spanish [...] users > > > cygwin.com > > > > > > > > > 05.08.2002 19:25 > > > Please respond to > > > cygwin-xfree > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past > and there > is > probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, > but I > wanted > to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they > adopted (if > the > did'nt give up) ? Use English __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Aug 28 00:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:28:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request References: <3D6BB060.6070702@hekimian.com> Message-ID: <3D6BE7F4.90408@msu.edu> Joe, I agree, it would be nice if Cygwin/XFree86 packages were able to allow the user to pick-and-choose elements at a more fine-grained level. Let me explain why this has not yet been done. Our current method of creating Cygwin/XFree86 packages is to use the standard XFree86 packaging script (see the Contributor's Guide section on Pacakaging for more information) to build the standard set of XFree86 packages. These packages are all that the XFree86 project distributes and the list of packages for each platform, as well as what each package contains, are very nearly identical. If you look at the XFree86 ftp site you will notice that every distribution has essentially the same list of packages. To create the Cygwin/XFree86 packages we just feed the standard XFree86 packages into a shell script that unpacks one or two packages at a time, adds maybe a file or two, and repacks the files into a package with the same, or nearly identical, name as the standard XFree86 packages. This current method of creating packages does not require us to spend any time determining what files should go in which package, such as a GNU/Linux distribution might do with their own DEB or RPM packages for XFree86. All of these decisions are made for us by the standard XFree86 packaging script. Most proposed changes to the packaging of Cygwin/XFree86 would require a paradigm shift in the way that Cygwin/XFree86 is packaged. We would have to have someone put in an initial 40 hours into developing a distribution framework (making sure no files are left out and that the layout is logical) and we would then have to have a commitment from someone to spend about 20 hours verifying that our packaging is correct each time the XFree86 project makes a new release (once or twice a year). I cannot spend the time doing these additional tasks, and I have not received a promise to take on these tasks from anyone. Thus, the packaging system will remain largely unchanged for now. If anyone is considering taking on these tasks, note this: a promise to do good work is not so good as doing good work first (like designing, implementing, and testing a new package layout) and then offering that work for review. I tend to put a lot more trust in someone's promise when they have already done 20 to 40 hours of work. In other words, don't bother replying to say, ``hey, I can help with that.'' I have heard those sorts of promises all too often. Joe, in specific regards to your request: your change may not be that difficult, but I do not have time to look into it right now. Our DLL files are not a part of standard XFree86 distributions, so it may just be that they have slipped into the wrong package by accident. I would appreciate it if someone would look into whether or not there is a better package for these DLLs (choose from amoung the list of existing packages). It may be best to stick these in the lib package, which is quite small if I recall correctly, and add the lib package to the required packages in XFree86-base. I hope that clears things up. It isn't that our current package system is the best, it is just that it is the easiest to maintain. Harold Joe Buehler wrote: > I recently ported GNU emacs to Cygwin. It would help reduce the > disk space requirements if some refinement was done on the xfree > packaging. > > The particular thing that is immediately obvious is that the dll's that > emacs requires are in the XFree86-bin package, along with a *lot* > of other stuff that emacs does not require. > > A base runtime package that contains only those things that an X11 client > needs would be mighty nice. Config files, fonts, dll's, etc. > > Joe Buehler > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 00:32:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:32:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <20020827191800.67757.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Well tell your emacs people that they'll just have to download the > same way we all do. If they want a pretty package, they can use > Xemacs. Is the install really that big for emacs people? After all, > if you want simplicity, use vi. It only requires terminfo, ash, and > the cygwin.dll. The point is that this has been discussed to death > and it was decided [not by me] that oficially nothing different will > be done at this time. You are welcome to host your own web page with > a custom install, though. Thats not the point. I'd like to see the lib*.dll from XFree86-bin in XFree86-lib too. It's closer to the original packaging scheme from unix. Maybe we can mov the files on the next package release. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 01:07:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:07:00 -0000 Subject: client runtime packaging request In-Reply-To: <3D6BE7F4.90408@msu.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Joe, > > I agree, it would be nice if Cygwin/XFree86 packages were able to allow > the user to pick-and-choose elements at a more fine-grained level. The current scheme is good, but has one bug. The shared libraries are not in lib, but in bin. I'll take a look at the scripts and build a patch which will add X11/lib and X11/bin/lib*dll to XFree86-lib and exclude X11/bin/lib*dll from XFree86-bin. Any new package will then have the dlls in XFree86-lib bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From h.nardmann@secunet.de Wed Aug 28 11:18:00 2002 From: h.nardmann@secunet.de (Heiko Nardmann) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: Q: indirect and from options? Message-ID: <200208280932.35385.h.nardmann@secunet.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I do not find the "indirect" and "from" options in the users guide documentation. Are they deprecated or just missing there? - -- Heiko Nardmann (Dipl.-Ing.), h.nardmann@secunet.de, Software Development secunet Security Networks AG - Sicherheit in Netzwerken (www.secunet.de), Weidenauer Str. 223-225, D-57076 Siegen Tel. : +49 271 48950-13, Fax : +49 271 48950-50 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj1sfJEACgkQpm53PRScYyjJwQCgkP92NvPn9pM93Rqns0NFcteW kYMAn0yjxJyMiyfvacGO/8LlJ/H0DLrS =kW5u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Aug 28 11:30:00 2002 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: Partial solution for nonUs keyboards with XDMCP to AIX, was: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, spanish [...] users Message-ID: Eh, very funny :-I OK, I looked into that problem in last days and I believe I found partial solution. The problem is that AIX uses modifier Mod2 for AltGT (linux uses Mod3, I think - but not sure). So this works for my Czech keyboard: I changed following files: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us in section generic101 i removed following lines: modifier_map Mod2 { Num_Lock }; modifier_map Mod5 { Scroll_Lock }; the first disables NumLock ability to lock AltGr. The second was removed when during experiments - may be it's not necessary. /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/cz in section basic I changed modifier_map Mod2 { }; (I think originally it was Mod3) this enables AltGr to behave correctly. Then I generated new /tmp/cz.xkm file using xkbcomp and add it tu command line parameters. But I have still problems with NumLock and numeric keypad - during login, it doesn't work (behaves odd, but switchnig NumLock causes little changes), when logged on, it is hard locked to produce numbers. I tried to set NumLock to Mod5 (It looks to be correct for AIX), but it didn't work. One more thing - probably to Harold - Caps Locks works correctly, but doesn't change state of the Caps Lock LED. Is this because change of LED state is not implemented in Cygwin, or is it bug, or what? (Note I'm not requesting fix for that, I'm just curious :-) I don't really understand xkb principles, so I don't know if everything I wrote above is correct. But it works... If you have any comments or ideas of solutions, please send it. Pavel Nicholas Wourms To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent by: cc: cygwin-xfree-owner@ Subject: Re: Using Cygwin to connect an AIX box. Questions for german, italian, french, cygwin.com spanish [...] users 27.08.2002 21:37 Please respond to cygwin-xfree > I know that Alt Gr problems were under the spotligth in the past > and there > is > probably no solution since it seems to be an aix related problem, > but I > wanted > to ask people using non-qwerty keyboards what solution do they > adopted (if > the > did'nt give up) ? Use English __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From gene.traxler@eds.com Wed Aug 28 12:18:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727430@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> I have been trying to use Cygwin/XFree86 to run HP Openview. I start XWin with the -query to log into the Solaris system that OV runs on and everything seems to run fine, better than with the release of Hummingbird's Exceed that I have. However, the right mouse button doesn't work in any OpenView window although it works on the rest of the CDE desktop. Searching on Google, I found an item labeled Pete's Notes that describes the same problem using XFree86 under Linux. This person was able to get the right button to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line from the InputDevice section of his XF86Config. The Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ says the it does not use XF86Config and the User's Guide does not list any parameter that I recognize as relating to this problem. I tried starting Cygwin/XFree86 with and without 3 button emulation but no right button either way. Is there an undocumented parameter or config file that will help with this or am I out of luck for now with XFree86? I looked through the files in /etc/X11 and didn't see anything that looked promising. Please reply to my email address (gene.traxler@eds.remove.this.com) as I am not subscribed to this list (lack of time, not lack of interest :-( ) From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 12:20:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview In-Reply-To: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727430@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > I have been trying to use Cygwin/XFree86 to run HP Openview. I start XWin > with the -query to log into the Solaris system that OV runs on and > everything seems to run fine, better than with the release of Hummingbird's > Exceed that I have. However, the right mouse button doesn't work in any > OpenView window although it works on the rest of the CDE desktop. Please try xev. What does xev report if you press the button? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From rpavan@triumf.ca Wed Aug 28 12:32:00 2002 From: rpavan@triumf.ca (Roberto Pavan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:32:00 -0000 Subject: fonts? Message-ID: <001301c24ec8$675a6bc0$2f645a8e@ipg05> Hello, I've had some trouble getting XFree86 4.2 to run on my cygwin installation. I installed the system on my Win2k machine using the latest setup.exe from cygwin.org. I'm getting a Cannot Open Display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 error when I try to run startxwin.sh A look at the logs shows me a series of errors like this one: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! I thought this might have been an issue regarding the text mode used during install as outlined in s. 6.6 of the FAQ, so I reinstalled the system using setup.exe. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be the case, as in fact, no fonts were installed. That is, the directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ doesn't exist. I haven't found anything in the FAQ regarding this. Can anyone help me to remedy the situation? -- Regards, Roberto Pavan, rpavan@triumf.ca Ph. (604) 222-1047 x6370 Fx. (604) 221-0436 http://www.triumf.ca/ From gene.traxler@eds.com Wed Aug 28 13:04:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727431@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Here are the two events from pressing the right mouse button. I assumed that you didn't want all of the motion and other events. ButtonPress event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973308, (27,95), root:(581,377), state 0x0, button 3, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973529, (27,95), root:(581,377), state 0x400, button 3, same_screen YES Thank you for your assistance. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:30 PM To: Traxler, Gene W Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Re: Config question/prob with HP Openview On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > I have been trying to use Cygwin/XFree86 to run HP Openview. I start XWin > with the -query to log into the Solaris system that OV runs on and > everything seems to run fine, better than with the release of Hummingbird's > Exceed that I have. However, the right mouse button doesn't work in any > OpenView window although it works on the rest of the CDE desktop. Please try xev. What does xev report if you press the button? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Aug 28 13:53:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:53:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview In-Reply-To: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727431@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > Here are the two events from pressing the right mouse button. I assumed > that you didn't want all of the motion and other events. > > ButtonPress event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973308, (27,95), root:(581,377), > state 0x0, button 3, same_screen YES > > ButtonRelease event, serial 17, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, > root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 10973529, (27,95), root:(581,377), > state 0x400, button 3, same_screen YES As you can see the server sends the button press messages. So the programs an the remote machine must have some wierd config. Which programs do not react on the button press? Does xterm display a menu when holding CTRL and pressing the button? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From gene.traxler@eds.com Wed Aug 28 14:22:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:22:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727433@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> xterm displays a VT Fonts menu when I hold down CTRL and right click. So far, the only program that I am having trouble with is HP OpenView. The rest of the CDE 1.3 environment appears to work normally although I haven't tested a lot of other programs (Netscape, various CDE desktop functions, etc). I found a note where someone running XFree86 under Linux was able to get right-clicking in Openview to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line from his XF86Config InputDevice section but Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't use XF86Config. Is there something equivalent to the change under Linux that I can do in Cygwin/XFree86? Everything that I am trying to do works fine under Hummingbird's Exceed although the stuff that works seems to work better under Cygwin. I am using Exceed at present but want to change to Cygwin. There is nothing peculiar in the Exceed configuration that I have found. -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Gottwald > As you can see the server sends the button press messages. So the programs > an the remote machine must have some wierd config. > > Which programs do not react on the button press? Does xterm display > a menu when holding CTRL and pressing the button? From c_twiner@hotmail.com Wed Aug 28 16:24:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:24:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, I posted last week that I had a possible solution to the xwinclip selection behaviour. I didn't get any feedback so I endeavoured to do it anyway. So this ones a bit long but it's an explanation of how I've got it working .. Basic premise : Use a seperate dll that runs a system wide Windoze hook to catch all activate messages. 2 events are of interest in the hook, when Cygwin/XFree86 is activated and when it is deactivated. When an event is detected the hook then sends a broadcast registered message to all top level windows. The top level Windoze window for xwinclip is run in a seperate thread and as such always receives the messages. Upon receipt of the activation messages flags are set up that indicate that either xtowindows be called or windowstox. These functions copy the data in the respective directions. The flags have to be used so the main thread (the owner of pDisplay) is the one that calls the functions. They in turn either XSetSelectionOwner (windowstox) or they XConvertSelection (xtowindows) to set the messages running. Major changes are that the select in xwinclip.c has a time limit applied and that the XSetSelectionOwner in xevents.c and XSetSelectionOwner in xwinclip.c are removed. This means that all selection operations behave as expected in XWin with xwinclip running. However I have some limitations: closing xwinclip: closing XWin closes xwinclip but doesn't go through WM_DESTROY on the x window, just XIO: fatal IO error 113 (Connection aborted) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 48 requests (47 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I made a script to close xwinclip via sending an X message but it results in crashing XWin as well. the select statement timeout: In order to get the polling on the notification flags (from the windows thread) the timer is set to 1 sec (or some other time). Is there a way to make the flags act as file descriptors for the select statement? Any help on the problems would be appreciated. The code is still (cough cough) a little rough n ready so I will release it when appropriate. Is putting a zip attachment on this mailing list appropriate? I have only been working on this for 3 days and it's my first attempt at X antics so if these are FAQ style items I appologise (I've looked just can't find them). Regards, Chris Twiner _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 02:31:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:31:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: I think the goal in the not-too-far-away-future is to have xwinclip integrated directly inside the XWin app. This would save you the trouble to use SetWindowsHookEx, which IIRC is a big piece of crap. Also, this would save you the trouble of killing xwinclip while XWin is still running. Jehan Chris Twiner wrote: > Hi All, > > I posted last week that I had a possible solution to the xwinclip > selection behaviour. I didn't get any feedback so I endeavoured to do > it anyway. So this ones a bit long but it's an explanation of how I've > got it working .. > > Basic premise : > > Use a seperate dll that runs a system wide Windoze hook to catch all > activate messages. 2 events are of interest in the hook, when > Cygwin/XFree86 is activated and when it is deactivated. When an event > is detected the hook then sends a broadcast registered message to all > top level windows. > > The top level Windoze window for xwinclip is run in a seperate thread > and as such always receives the messages. Upon receipt of the > activation messages flags are set up that indicate that either > xtowindows be called or windowstox. These functions copy the data in > the respective directions. > > The flags have to be used so the main thread (the owner of pDisplay) is > the one that calls the functions. They in turn either > XSetSelectionOwner (windowstox) or they XConvertSelection (xtowindows) > to set the messages running. > > Major changes are that the select in xwinclip.c has a time limit applied > and that the XSetSelectionOwner in xevents.c and XSetSelectionOwner in > xwinclip.c are removed. > > This means that all selection operations behave as expected in XWin with > xwinclip running. > > However I have some limitations: > > closing xwinclip: > closing XWin closes xwinclip but doesn't go through WM_DESTROY on the > x window, just > XIO: fatal IO error 113 (Connection aborted) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" > after 48 requests (47 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > I made a script to close xwinclip via sending an X message but it > results in crashing XWin as well. > > the select statement timeout: > In order to get the polling on the notification flags (from the > windows thread) the timer is set to 1 sec (or some other time). Is > there a way to make the flags act as file descriptors for the select > statement? > > Any help on the problems would be appreciated. > > The code is still (cough cough) a little rough n ready so I will release > it when appropriate. Is putting a zip attachment on this mailing list > appropriate? > > I have only been working on this for 3 days and it's my first attempt at > X antics so if these are FAQ style items I appologise (I've looked just > can't find them). > > Regards, > > Chris Twiner > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > From c_twiner@hotmail.com Thu Aug 29 05:16:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >I think the goal in the not-too-far-away-future is to have xwinclip > >integrated directly inside the XWin app. This would save you the >trouble >to use SetWindowsHookEx, which IIRC is a big piece of crap. >Also, this >would save you the trouble of killing xwinclip while XWin >is still >running. I read that the plan was to integrate it on one of the posts (and the todo list) but the problem would still remain (keeping ownership). You're right though SetWindowsHookEx is awful. It's not too bad for a process only hook but a global is horrible. I think you're right though, wasting more time on the closing down bit would be foolish. When integrated only the setselectionowner's would need to be removed and the two event's code added. Much cleaner but would get rid of the ownership thing. Thanks for the feedback. Nobody replied to the other post so I wondered what interest level there was. Chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 29 06:44:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:44:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview In-Reply-To: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727433@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > xterm displays a VT Fonts menu when I hold down CTRL and right click. So > far, the only program that I am having trouble with is HP OpenView. The > rest of the CDE 1.3 environment appears to work normally although I haven't > tested a lot of other programs (Netscape, various CDE desktop functions, > etc). I found a note where someone running XFree86 under Linux was able to > get right-clicking in Openview to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line > from his XF86Config InputDevice section but Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't use > XF86Config. Is there something equivalent to the change under Linux that I > can do in Cygwin/XFree86? Hm. You could only try switching off the scrollwheel. But I don't remember if there was a switch or if there was just discussion about it. or you could try to use the scrollwheel to send a buttonpress for button5 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 29 11:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: <200208291216.g7TCGOM19884@pilot17.cl.msu.edu> Chris, Well, I am glad that someone is working on xwinclip other than me. However, I did not respond to the proposed solution because I was not entirely convinced that it was the best approach to take or even that a problem existed that needed to be solved. Of course, the best way to deal with me is to just program me into submission, which you are currently on your way to doing. If I have a patch sent in that is cleanly formatted and adds functionality without breaking any existing functionality nor does it add any significant new bugs, then I can do little else than accept and apply the patch. Do note that a patch that does not follow the naming conventions (e.g., g_foo for globals, pszString for char *'s, etc.) and formatting conventions (just look at a function definition and use emacs' indent option) will essentially get ignored. Or rather, I'll look at it, I'll start cleaning it up, I'll get pissed off that I am wasting my time doing something that could have been done right in the first place by someone else, and I'll throw the patch out and put less weight on the future contributions of such developers. So, please format your patch correctly :) In conclusion, I am just waiting for a patch that you want me to review. Don't rush, do it right, let me (the mailing list) know when you want a review. Of course, it does not hurt to keep us posted as to what you are doing and questions are fine as well. Harold Chris Twiner said: > Hi All, > > I posted last week that I had a possible solution to the xwinclip selection > behaviour. I didn't get any feedback so I endeavoured to do it anyway. So > this ones a bit long but it's an explanation of how I've got it working .. > > Basic premise : > > Use a seperate dll that runs a system wide Windoze hook to catch all > activate messages. 2 events are of interest in the hook, when > Cygwin/XFree86 is activated and when it is deactivated. When an event is > detected the hook then sends a broadcast registered message to all top level > windows. > > The top level Windoze window for xwinclip is run in a seperate thread and as > such always receives the messages. Upon receipt of the activation messages > flags are set up that indicate that either xtowindows be called or > windowstox. These functions copy the data in the respective directions. > > The flags have to be used so the main thread (the owner of pDisplay) is the > one that calls the functions. They in turn either XSetSelectionOwner > (windowstox) or they XConvertSelection (xtowindows) to set the messages > running. > > Major changes are that the select in xwinclip.c has a time limit applied and > that the XSetSelectionOwner in xevents.c and XSetSelectionOwner in > xwinclip.c are removed. > > This means that all selection operations behave as expected in XWin with > xwinclip running. > > However I have some limitations: > > closing xwinclip: > closing XWin closes xwinclip but doesn't go through WM_DESTROY on the x > window, just > XIO: fatal IO error 113 (Connection aborted) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" > after 48 requests (47 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > I made a script to close xwinclip via sending an X message but it results > in crashing XWin as well. > > the select statement timeout: > In order to get the polling on the notification flags (from the windows > thread) the timer is set to 1 sec (or some other time). Is there a way to > make the flags act as file descriptors for the select statement? > > Any help on the problems would be appreciated. > > The code is still (cough cough) a little rough n ready so I will release it > when appropriate. Is putting a zip attachment on this mailing list > appropriate? > > I have only been working on this for 3 days and it's my first attempt at X > antics so if these are FAQ style items I appologise (I've looked just can't > find them). > > Regards, > > Chris Twiner > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > From gene.traxler@eds.com Thu Aug 29 11:52:00 2002 From: gene.traxler@eds.com (Traxler, Gene W) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: <2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727437@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com> I don't have a scrollwheel, just a two-button mouse. I do need to have 3ButtonEmulation turned on to get middle button stuff to work but right-click doesn't work in OpenView whether 3ButtonEmulation is turned on or off. Something that I just tested is using the left-right button combination to emulate a middle button copy of highlighted text into an OpenView window text box. That does work, right-clicking by itself does not. -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:32 AM To: Traxler, Gene W Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: RE: Config question/prob with HP Openview On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Traxler, Gene W wrote: > xterm displays a VT Fonts menu when I hold down CTRL and right click. So > far, the only program that I am having trouble with is HP OpenView. The > rest of the CDE 1.3 environment appears to work normally although I haven't > tested a lot of other programs (Netscape, various CDE desktop functions, > etc). I found a note where someone running XFree86 under Linux was able to > get right-clicking in Openview to work by removing the ZAxisMapping line > from his XF86Config InputDevice section but Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't use > XF86Config. Is there something equivalent to the change under Linux that I > can do in Cygwin/XFree86? Hm. You could only try switching off the scrollwheel. But I don't remember if there was a switch or if there was just discussion about it. or you could try to use the scrollwheel to send a buttonpress for button5 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From c_twiner@hotmail.com Thu Aug 29 12:36:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:36:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, Thanks for the response Harold. I revised the logic in the changes and managed to remove the threading and all that went with it. Guess what, the XWin crashes stopped on both expected exists of xwinclip (via the stopping tool I wrote) and via Ctrl-C/close command. The problem I am trying to solve is that of xwinclip "stealing" the selection ownership from x windows. My main motivation for this is NEdit, the block functions rely on the selection being present and unaltered. Basically all the changes are removal of xsetselectionowners throughout old winclip code and inserting one for primary when Cygwin/XFree86 regains focus. Then adding convertselections to force the insert into the windows clipboard. I've tested it out for XA_PRIMARY don't know any apps that use secondary but I've also tried on CLIPBOARD. It does something but I wouldn't say it works :-). I have attached a zip with the complete files in there, not just diffs etc in case the base version is different now. They xwinclip normal files and the xwinclip_hook file additions have been changed to agree with the sytle guidelines Harold pointed out. kill_xwinclip.c and kill_xwclip_hook.c haven't but there isn't much to them anyway, and I'd like to figure out a way to remove them anyway. I have left the original code in place but commented out where necessary also there are lots of printf's in place to help with debugging. There is shell script called build_dll_extras.SH that builds the dll and the two kill apps. Hope the format is ok. If not tell me and I'll send them back with whatever changes are necessary. Cygwin is a great tool, I want to contribute. Untested and definitely won't work is running more than one screen. The hook relies on the Cygwin/XFree86 window title, it will therefor not work with more than one screen. thanks in advance for the feedback (hopefully positive), Chris Twiner _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xwinclip_chris_twiner.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 18685 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 12:48:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:48:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Chris Twiner wrote: > I have attached a zip with the complete files in there, not just diffs > etc in case the base version is different now. They xwinclip normal > files and the xwinclip_hook file additions have been changed to agree > with the sytle guidelines Harold pointed out. > > kill_xwinclip.c and kill_xwclip_hook.c haven't but there isn't much to > them anyway, and I'd like to figure out a way to remove them anyway. [...] > Hope the format is ok. If not tell me and I'll send them back with > whatever changes are necessary. Cygwin is a great tool, I want to > contribute. There is some obvious cleaning to do here. First, is to use only tabs or only spaces (don't remember which one Harold uses). Having a mix of space and tabs is a big mess for people who don't use the same tab size (8 vs 4 vs 3 vs 2). Some files (windproc.c at least) has a huge number of spaces/tabs at then end of line (see KillXWinclip function ). Some files don't have indentation at all (kill_xwinclip.c) or barely (kill_xclip_hook.c). As you said, there isn't much to them anyway so it's not a huge task to clean them but that will still help others who would want to look at the code. Also, even if you want to get rid of them, you don't know how long they will stay. There was once a guy who said that storing the date with only 2 digits was be good enough, that by the time we would get to 2000, the software would have been replaced and corrected... you know the end of the story ;) I don't know how much of the problems are yours or from the original code (never looked at it) but it would be a good thing to have that cleaned in any case. > Untested and definitely won't work is running more than one screen. The > hook relies on the Cygwin/XFree86 window title, it will therefor not > work with more than one screen. What about trying to integrate xwinclip inside XWin? It would fix this problem since you don't have to create the Hook. You just have to add a call to the owner thingie in xwinwndproc.c file. It would also allow to get rid of the two files you want to remove ;). Last, it would reduce the size of the Cygwin/XFree to-do list (a killer feature for Harold ;)). Jehan From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Thu Aug 29 13:07:00 2002 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: Config question/prob with HP Openview Message-ID: "Traxler, Gene W" wrote in message news:<2CDF71507244D411924400508BDF0BC801727437@usahm017.exmi01.exch.eds.com>... > I don't have a scrollwheel, just a two-button mouse. I do need to have > 3ButtonEmulation turned on to get middle button stuff to work but > right-click doesn't work in OpenView whether 3ButtonEmulation is turned on > or off. Something that I just tested is using the left-right button > combination to emulate a middle button copy of highlighted text into an > OpenView window text box. That does work, right-clicking by itself does > not. Is this a numlock problem? Try doing the right-click with the numlock off. Cary Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com From tlo@aw.sgi.com Thu Aug 29 13:08:00 2002 From: tlo@aw.sgi.com (Terence Lo) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:08:00 -0000 Subject: xlib: extension "XInputExtension" missing on display Message-ID: <003d01c24f95$8df65e10$ca411dc6@ms.aliaswavefront.com> Hi there, I've recently setup cygwin/xfree86 on my win2k box. Everything appears to be working fine except when I try running an application which requires a new window from within my bash shell, I receive the following error: xlib: extension "XInputExtension" missing on display pc-tlo:0. How do I go about fixing this problem? Do I have to enable xinputextension in one of my config files? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, TL From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Aug 29 13:43:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: building XFree86 from cvs In-Reply-To: <3d6b43f4.487682330@smtp.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Guy Harrison wrote: [big diff] > > ...it might even still cross-compile! ;-) It does. Good Work :) bye ago BTW: When you're creating diffs, please use the diff -u. -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From c_twiner@hotmail.com Thu Aug 29 13:51:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:51:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >There is some obvious cleaning to do here. First, is to use only tabs or >only spaces (don't remember which one Harold uses). Having a mix of space >and tabs is a big mess for people who don't use the same tab size (8 vs 4 >vs 3 vs 2). I'll figure which one's are used and change the stuff accordingly. I thought I had it set, but I didn't check it on another text editor or even cat. >Some files (windproc.c at least) has a huge number of spaces/tabs at then >end of line (see KillXWinclip function ). That's one thing I rarely check for, wouldn't take much either way. >Some files don't have indentation at all (kill_xwinclip.c) or barely >(kill_xclip_hook.c). As you said, there isn't much to them anyway so it's >not a huge task to clean them but that will still help others who would >want to look at the code. Also, even if you want to get rid of them, you >don't know how long they will stay. There was once a guy who said that >storing the date with only 2 digits was be good enough, that by the time we >would get to 2000, the software would have been replaced and corrected... >you know the end of the story ;) Good point, I'll clean them up either way then resubmit. I will have a look at integrating it to XWin anyway. It would be another interesting way to keep my mind active. >I don't know how much of the problems are yours or from the original code >(never looked at it) but it would be a good thing to have that cleaned in >any case. I saw different formating in the files but it could just be the way I've setup NEdit. Again I'll have a crack. >What about trying to integrate xwinclip inside XWin? It would fix this >problem since you don't have to create the Hook. You just have to add a >call to the owner thingie in xwinwndproc.c file. It would also allow to get >rid of the two files you want to remove ;). Last, it would reduce the size >of the Cygwin/XFree to-do list (a killer feature for Harold ;)). As I said I'd be up for that. Just of out interest did you try the changed version? I'm quite interested to know if it works properly on other machines. Thanks for the feedback. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 14:59:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:59:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Chris Twiner wrote: > Just of out interest did you try the > changed version? I'm quite interested to know if it works properly on > other machines. No I haven't. I rarely use XFree actually. I use it only when I have to update some packages on our Linux servers. But if I remember, I'll try to give it a quick try tonight. Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 29 16:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:03:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> Jehan, As far as integrating xwinclip into XWin.exe - Chris would be stuck by the same problem that I am: that the process hosting the xwinclip X client connection gets killed when X shuts down or resets and the client connection is still open. I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a definite signal that the X server is about to shutdown. There is a hook provided by most window managers to indicate that the display is closeing, but it has so far given mixed results. The last idea I saw was in the x2x (I think) source code, which interfaces with the raw Xlib, just like xwinclip. It looked like x2x was watching for a move message for the mouse to (0, 0) (or some other special point) and it took this as a signal to close the X client connection. I have yet to investigate whether watching for this certain mouse message provides the functionality that we need. Harold Jehan wrote: > Chris Twiner wrote: > >> I have attached a zip with the complete files in there, not just diffs >> etc in case the base version is different now. They xwinclip normal >> files and the xwinclip_hook file additions have been changed to agree >> with the sytle guidelines Harold pointed out. >> >> kill_xwinclip.c and kill_xwclip_hook.c haven't but there isn't much to >> them anyway, and I'd like to figure out a way to remove them anyway. > > [...] > >> Hope the format is ok. If not tell me and I'll send them back with >> whatever changes are necessary. Cygwin is a great tool, I want to >> contribute. > > > There is some obvious cleaning to do here. First, is to use only tabs or > only spaces (don't remember which one Harold uses). Having a mix of > space and tabs is a big mess for people who don't use the same tab size > (8 vs 4 vs 3 vs 2). > > Some files (windproc.c at least) has a huge number of spaces/tabs at > then end of line (see KillXWinclip function ). > > Some files don't have indentation at all (kill_xwinclip.c) or barely > (kill_xclip_hook.c). As you said, there isn't much to them anyway so > it's not a huge task to clean them but that will still help others who > would want to look at the code. Also, even if you want to get rid of > them, you don't know how long they will stay. There was once a guy who > said that storing the date with only 2 digits was be good enough, that > by the time we would get to 2000, the software would have been replaced > and corrected... you know the end of the story ;) > > I don't know how much of the problems are yours or from the original > code (never looked at it) but it would be a good thing to have that > cleaned in any case. > > >> Untested and definitely won't work is running more than one screen. >> The hook relies on the Cygwin/XFree86 window title, it will therefor >> not work with more than one screen. > > > What about trying to integrate xwinclip inside XWin? It would fix this > problem since you don't have to create the Hook. You just have to add a > call to the owner thingie in xwinwndproc.c file. It would also allow to > get rid of the two files you want to remove ;). Last, it would reduce > the size of the Cygwin/XFree to-do list (a killer feature for Harold ;)). > > Jehan > > > From nahor@bravobrava.com Thu Aug 29 16:33:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:33:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> Message-ID: Again, I don't know much about X so I'm going to talk blind here.... Harold L Hunt II wrote: > As far as integrating xwinclip into XWin.exe - Chris would be stuck by > the same problem that I am: that the process hosting the xwinclip X > client connection gets killed when X shuts down or resets and the client > connection is still open. > > I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a definite > signal that the X server is about to shutdown. ... XWin is the X server so if xwinclip is part of XWin, then it knows that the server is shuting down/reseting because XWin is shuting down/reseting, doesn't it? Also, I thought that the use of select() in test04 was to avoid problem with disconnection. test05 changelog says that there is still a problem with GiveUp. But I guess that GiveUp ends up calling ddxGiveUp. Maybe this ddxGiveUp could be useful (like to close the X client connection if it's not too late to do it) Also (it's probably more work but...) the X server is the one handling the clipboard, isn't it? So if xwinclip is integrated into the server, it should not need to be a X client anymore so no more problem with connections. Maybe Chris would be interested into looking into that (that would occupy his mind for quite a while a guess :)). Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Aug 29 17:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:22:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:59 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: xwinclip re selection polling > > > Again, I don't know much about X so I'm going to talk blind here.... > That's okay, but a lot of these things require a strict reading of the specs in order to understand what is going on. > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > As far as integrating xwinclip into XWin.exe - Chris would be stuck by > > the same problem that I am: that the process hosting the xwinclip X > > client connection gets killed when X shuts down or resets and > the client > > connection is still open. > > > > I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a definite > > signal that the X server is about to shutdown. > > ... XWin is the X server so if xwinclip is part of XWin, then it knows > that the server is shuting down/reseting because XWin is shuting > down/reseting, doesn't it? > Ironically, no, there is no interface for the ddx (device-dependent X, which is stored in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin for Cygwin/XFree86) portion of the X Server to receive notification that it is about to be reset. GiveUp is only called during the shutdown process (not during resets) and I do not remember if it is called before or after all clients are killed. However, the shutdown process doesn't matter if we can't handle the reset process, so we will have to fix the reset process before we even worry about the shutdown process. > Also, I thought that the use of select() in test04 was to avoid problem > with disconnection. > test05 changelog says that there is still a problem with GiveUp. But I > guess that GiveUp ends up calling ddxGiveUp. Maybe this ddxGiveUp could > be useful (like to close the X client connection if it's not too late to > do it) > Well, yes, using select () was necessary to make sure that Windows messages don't build up in the queue and it was also necessary to allow us to experiment with several methods of trying to catch the server shutdown. However, I think I said something to the effect of ``hopefully this will allow us to catch a server shutdown...''. That is, I didn't currently have a solution. > Also (it's probably more work but...) the X server is the one handling > the clipboard, isn't it? So if xwinclip is integrated into the server, > it should not need to be a X client anymore so no more problem with > connections. Maybe Chris would be interested into looking into that > (that would occupy his mind for quite a while a guess :)). > The problem here is that the clipboard interface is actually a client-interface. I don't know that the server has anything at all to do with the clipboard. The fact that the clipboard interface is part of the ICCCM (Inter-Client Communications Conventions Manual, or something like that) seems to suggest that this is the case. So, in order to call these client functions you need a client connection, thus the problem with needing to know when the client disconnects. With all of that being said, it may turn out that the best way to solve this problem is just to throw a Cygwin-specific hook into the dix functions that handle a server shutdown or reset. This Cygwin-specific hook would just notify the clipboard client embedded in the server that the server is about to reset so the client connection should be closed. That may turn out to be the only way to handle this. Harold From c_twiner@hotmail.com Thu Aug 29 19:59:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:59:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, It's just going 01.29am here so I won't have a big look at it, but couldn't the windows hook be used for the same purpose i.e. track for the close message. I'll give it a go tomorrow. And yes Jehan, it's just what I need (although I'm about to get a few new hardware toys to play with as well, and who knows work may call me in). laters, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From jensen@physics.unr.edu Fri Aug 30 02:24:00 2002 From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 02:24:00 -0000 Subject: screen too big for display Message-ID: I just installed Cygwin/xfree with fvwm2 window manager, and the desktop comes up too large for the display. In other words, when I move the mouse down on my screen, the desktop scrolls, so a window at the top of my screen scrolls off my screen. How can I make the desktop fit my screen? I tried to change the XWin parameters, but to no effect. (This problem does not appear when I use twm). Thanks for any help, Lars. -- Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen Tel: 775.673.7113 FAX: 775.674.7592 From nahor@bravobrava.com Fri Aug 30 03:49:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:49:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Jehan wrote: > Chris Twiner wrote: > >> Just of out interest did you try the changed version? I'm quite >> interested to know if it works properly on other machines. > > > No I haven't. I rarely use XFree actually. I use it only when I have to > update some packages on our Linux servers. > But if I remember, I'll try to give it a quick try tonight. Chris, A really quick test worked on my machine (WinXP Dual-Athlon). Just a few glitches: - kill_xclip_hook.exe doesn't do anything for me. I have to use kill_xwinclip to really remove the hook, even if xwinclip is already dead. - We really need to find away to automatically remove the hook without having to use kill_xwinclip (or find a way to automatically call this app). It took me a few minutes to remember what you said in your previous mail and what I compiled before I thought about using this program. Could xwinclip do the same thing than kill_xwinclip before registring itself? - XWinclip doesn't copy what is already in the windows clipboard when it starts. - I don't know if it can be done but when XWin gets activated, the selection should not disappears if the Windows clipboard didn't change. I mean: if you select something in X, activate a Windows application, then activate XWin, the selection disappear, it shouldn't. That said, a thought came to me (yep, another wild guess :p). When I select something in X, I can paste it as many time I want without having the selection disappearing. Is it because when I "middle-click" X fake the paste by sending the keystrokes matching what is in the clipboard or is it because reading the content of the clipboard doesn't change the selection? IOW, am I correct to assume that the selection disappear when an application "take ownership" and that "taking ownership" mean that when a process ask for the clipboard content, we will be the one asked to send it? If my guess is correct, why not "take ownership" only if the Windows clipboard changed and differs from the current X clipboard?... Or was because xwinclip was losing the ownership that it knew that the selection changed? Last Chris, you may want to look at the WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD Windows event. Using this feature would allow to handle Windows applications that change the clipboard by themselves (ie without user intervention). I don't know any but I'm not omniscient. Jehan From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Fri Aug 30 08:44:00 2002 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:44:00 -0000 Subject: [gerardin@fr.ibm.com: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree)] Message-ID: <20020830112321.Z5475@cygbert.vinschen.de> Redirected to the appropriate mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Corinna ----- Forwarded message from Pierre Gerardin ----- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:58:19 GMT From: Pierre Gerardin Subject: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree) To: cygwin@cygwin.com Running cygwin Xfree86, I tried twm, fvwm2, mwm ... I am not able to get the French keyboard in an xterm... Only the US one. Any idea ? Thanks. I also have messages twm : invalid color name ... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From c_twiner@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 10:44:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:44:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >- kill_xclip_hook.exe doesn't do anything for me. I have to use >kill_xwinclip to really remove the hook, even if xwinclip is already dead. I saw that a few times as well. I'm wondering wether a new message needs to be sent through the hook to close it or something similar. I'll add the functionality into kill_xclip_hook, the two behaviours are different in that if xwinclip is running then just kill_xwinclip will do the job of both anyway. >- We really need to find away to automatically remove the hook without >having to use kill_xwinclip (or find a way to automatically call this app). >It took me a few minutes to remember what you said in your previous mail >and what I compiled before I thought about using this program. Could >xwinclip do the same thing than kill_xwinclip before registring itself? I've been trying to figure a way around this. It will always remove the hook if kill_xwinclip has been called, because this allows the program to exit gracefully. Ctrl-c or closing the window doesn't and the signals never seem to work. In essence the bit's that are important are a call to RemHook and to FreeLibrary from within xwinclip. When it recieves a WM_DESTROY (like kill_xwinclip sends) it cleans itself up, xconnection and all. I think until it's integrated within XWin (still think Harolds right about the closing of connection, I can test for the Cygwin/XFree86 window being closed, I can even stop it but I can't catch the xlib bombing out on a send/receive) it must have a windows window not a console to close properly. This would allow the proper trapping of the messages. It doesn't need to show anything in the window just to be a visible one. Of course it doesn't stop someone killing the process but it does at least make the close work. >- XWinclip doesn't copy what is already in the windows clipboard when it >starts. Good un. Although I'm not sure it's entirely wanted behaviour. What if you just start xwinclip between selection operations on the XWin x clients? Should it automatically clear them or is the reason you're starting xwinclip because you want to give them the windows clipboard. I think it's the latter, I'll put it in (means owning XA_PRIMARY when it starts up, no biggy). >- I don't know if it can be done but when XWin gets activated, the >selection should not disappears if the Windows clipboard didn't change. I >mean: if you select something in X, activate a Windows application, then >activate XWin, the selection disappear, it shouldn't. Agreed on reflection that makes sense shouldn't be tough to fix. See below re: WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD. >That said, a thought came to me (yep, another wild guess :p). When I select >something in X, I can paste it as many time I want without having the >selection disappearing. Is it because when I "middle-click" X fake the >paste by sending the keystrokes matching what is in the clipboard or is it >because reading the content of the clipboard doesn't change the selection? It's because clicking the middle button sends a xconvertselection that sends a SelectionRequest event to the owner. The owner of the selection sends the data back in a SelectionNotify event. (of course this is given that I read the specs properly, but it seems to be the truth from the debugging printfs). The original xwinclip always followed the reciept of the SelectionNotify event with an XSetSelectionOwner which forced the selection to be cleared (via a SelectionClear event). As such whilst you could still paste as many times as you wanted (as xwinclip now owned the selection and handled the requests) you couldn't use any functions that depended on the selection remaining with the original owner. >IOW, am I correct to assume that the selection disappear when an >application "take ownership" and that "taking ownership" mean that when a >process ask for the clipboard content, we will be the one asked to send it? >If my guess is correct, why not "take ownership" only if the Windows >clipboard changed and differs from the current X clipboard?... Or was >because xwinclip was losing the ownership that it knew that the selection >changed? The Or is the right one. It knew because it received the SelectionClear event. I agree though it's really only necessary to take ownership when the windows clipboard is different. >Last Chris, you may want to look at the WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD Windows event. >Using this feature would allow to handle Windows applications that change >the clipboard by themselves (ie without user intervention). I don't know >any but I'm not omniscient. It seems perfect for the job. Saves trying to evaluate the contents of the clipboard between the two (really convoluted as it's asynchronous you'd have to write a mini event loop). I'll put that in as well, it'd make things that much smoother. Thanks for the feedback some gems esp the WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD. I didn't know that existed, not even a couple of years ago when Win32 API was my bible. Guess I never played with the clipboard enough :-). Hopefully I'm making up for it now! cheers, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From nahor@bravobrava.com Fri Aug 30 11:36:00 2002 From: nahor@bravobrava.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:36:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: Chris Twiner wrote: > I think until it's integrated within XWin (still think Harolds right > about the closing of connection, I can test for the Cygwin/XFree86 > window being closed, I can even stop it but I can't catch the xlib > bombing out on a send/receive) it must have a windows window not a > console to close properly. This would allow the proper trapping of the > messages. It doesn't need to show anything in the window just to be a > visible one. Of course it doesn't stop someone killing the process but > it does at least make the close work. Wouldn't a window with a "shape window" (ala xeyes), where the shape leaves nothing visible, work? Or a window that always stay out of the screen boundaries. Maybe having a window visible isn't a bad idea. This give the choice to the user to kill xwinclip if it doesn't want to share the clipboards anymore. The window could also always stay minimized. Or xwinclip could become some sort of extended xclipboard. Storing multiple X and Windows content. > Good un. Although I'm not sure it's entirely wanted behaviour. What if > you just start xwinclip between selection operations on the XWin x > clients? Should it automatically clear them or is the reason you're > starting xwinclip because you want to give them the windows clipboard. > I think it's the latter, I'll put it in (means owning XA_PRIMARY when it > starts up, no biggy). I guess that usually, xwinclip is started in the same script than XWin. But in any case, the best solution may then be to check if one of the clipboard is empty (either Windows or X) and copy the content of the other. If both are full we have to make an arbitrary choice. Feeble excuses are: - when we start xwinclip and X alreay has a selection, it's likely that XWin is active. As such, it's easier to reselect what is in X if necessary than having to switch to a Windows application (in favor of using the Windows clipboard). - The selection in Windows in permanent while in X it isn't. So it would be easier to recover the Windows clipboard than the X one (just need to copy what is already selected, while in X, we would need to reselect it first) (in favor of using X content). - AFAIK, there is no "cut" operation in X, only paste while in Windows, we have a "cut". So if the content of the Windows clipboard has been cut, there is no way to recover it once lost (except if the application has an "undo" feature). (in favor of Windows). - I threw a coin and it said to use Windows (in favor of Windows). - I threw a another coin and it said to use X (in favor of X). Ok, that's all I can think of for now. The choice is yours :) Jehan From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Fri Aug 30 11:55:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:55:00 -0000 Subject: [gerardin@fr.ibm.com: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree)] In-Reply-To: <20020830112321.Z5475@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <20020830174458.3381.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Did you try setxkbmap fr ? > ----- Forwarded message from Pierre Gerardin > ----- > > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:58:19 GMT > From: Pierre Gerardin > Subject: unable to get French keyboard with twm (Xfree) > To: cygwin@cygwin.com > > Running cygwin Xfree86, I tried twm, fvwm2, mwm ... I am not able to > get the French keyboard in an xterm... > Only the US one. Any idea ? Thanks. > I also have messages twm : invalid color name ... > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin > to > Cygwin Developer > mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com > Red Hat, Inc. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From geek@burri.to Fri Aug 30 12:26:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling In-Reply-To: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> References: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> Message-ID: <2623.128.2.78.228.1030732576.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt II said: > I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a > definite signal that the X server is about to shutdown. There is a > hook provided by most window managers to indicate that the display > is closeing, but it has so far given mixed results. The last idea > I saw was in the x2x (I think) source code, which interfaces with > the raw Xlib, just like xwinclip. It looked like x2x was watching > for a move message for the mouse to (0, 0) (or some other special > point) and it took this as a signal to close the X client > connection. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the case that you merely need to be able to gracefully handle the "X server is dead" case rather than knowing the X server is about to exit? If so, perhaps this (grotty kludge) is what you want. During initialization, after the initial connection to the X server is made (using the appropriate X library funtions), MANUALLY create another connection to the X server (e.g. open a socket and send some messages). Then, before any X operations, try accessing the manual socket to make sure X is still up (e.g. ping the server). If the ping fails, then you can un-hook your event gracefully. Yes, there's still a window where you ping, the server goes down, and then you try your operation, but I doubt you really want to do it all by hand. The ping will be painful enough. This idea has come to me through the python-xlib project, which basically implements libX11 in pure python code (except for the socket layer, of course). My understanding is that the fundamental problem is that the X11 functions generally force an application exit when they fail to do server absence. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Aug 30 13:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: <3D6E8949.106@msu.edu> <2623.128.2.78.228.1030732576.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Message-ID: <3D6FBFB9.4040107@msu.edu> Brian, I can't tell if you have enough of an understanding of X11 to write a proposed solution that actually makes sense. At least, I can't make any sense out of your proposal. The problem is that we have to wait for events by calling select (). Normally, select () returns when the other end of the connection is closed and it sets a flag to indicate that the other end of the connection has closed. In X11, however, when the server is about to reset or shutdown it loops through the list of all connected clients and, instead of closing their connections, it simply ``kill''s them without warning. Yes, X11 is beautifully engineered. :) Trust me, I have read the source code and searched all over the web for a solution to this. This is a well-recognized short coming of the X11 protocol. However, there has to be some workaround because applications written using Xt do not get explicitly killed when the server shuts down. Thus, there has to be some sort of signal that indicates that the server is about to shutdown and that we should not call select () again. In one of my last few posts I mentioned that there appears to be some convention that the mouse coordinates move to a certain location on the root window just before the server shuts down. This mouse message is sent to all clients and we can use this mouse message as a signal to not call select () again. However, I do not know the details of this mouse message, nor do I even know for sure if it exists. This is merely an impression that I got from looking at the source code to another program that does not get killed when the X server shuts down. It is one thing to chat about this... it is quite another to look at the X Server and Xlib source code and try to come up with a solution that works. Harold Brian Gallew wrote: >Harold L Hunt II said: > > >>I have searched for months and months for a way to receive a >>definite signal that the X server is about to shutdown. There is a >>hook provided by most window managers to indicate that the display >>is closeing, but it has so far given mixed results. The last idea >>I saw was in the x2x (I think) source code, which interfaces with >>the raw Xlib, just like xwinclip. It looked like x2x was watching >>for a move message for the mouse to (0, 0) (or some other special >>point) and it took this as a signal to close the X client >>connection. >> >> > >Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the case that you merely >need to be able to gracefully handle the "X server is dead" case >rather than knowing the X server is about to exit? > >If so, perhaps this (grotty kludge) is what you want. During >initialization, after the initial connection to the X server is made >(using the appropriate X library funtions), MANUALLY create another >connection to the X server (e.g. open a socket and send some >messages). Then, before any X operations, try accessing the manual >socket to make sure X is still up (e.g. ping the server). If the ping >fails, then you can un-hook your event gracefully. Yes, there's still >a window where you ping, the server goes down, and then you try your >operation, but I doubt you really want to do it all by hand. The ping >will be painful enough. > >This idea has come to me through the python-xlib project, which >basically implements libX11 in pure python code (except for the socket >layer, of course). My understanding is that the fundamental problem >is that the X11 functions generally force an application exit when >they fail to do server absence. > > > > From meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com Fri Aug 30 13:17:00 2002 From: meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com (Meredith Finkelstein) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:17:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: <20020830194141.M7657@www.honeybeerobotics.com> Hi I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to solve my problem, which is: I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried both cygwin shell and cmd) then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has X11Forwarding turned on when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, xwindows. and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages Any suggestions? Thanks, Meredith -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 13:20:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:20:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote machine after running ssh? It should have a value of ":10.0", or something similar. If it's empty, or the value looks like ":0.0", "From: "Meredith Finkelstein" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: "cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com" >Subject: X windows display problem >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 > >Hi >I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to >solve my problem, which is: > >I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried >both cygwin shell and cmd) >then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host >computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has >X11Forwarding turned on > >when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: > >xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > >this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, >xwindows. >and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages > >Any suggestions? >Thanks, >Meredith > > > > >-- >Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 18:18:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:18:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: I guess I should have read your message a little more carefully before replying. You said that sshd has been configure with X11Forwarding turned on. Give the following a try: 1) On the local system, before running ssh, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value of ":0.0" or something similar. If it doesn't, manually set it to the correct value. Verify its value by running a simple xclient like xeyes. 2) Run your ssh -X command. 3) On the remote system, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value of ":10.0" or something similar. If it doesn't have the right value, try setting it manually. If that doesn't work, then I'm stumped. >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com >Subject: Re: X windows display problem >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:07:13 -0400 > >What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote machine >after running ssh? > >It should have a value of ":10.0", or something similar. > >If it's empty, or the value looks like ":0.0", >"forwarding. > >Note that the ssh daemon on the remote machine has to be explicitly told to >enable X forwarding. This might be to blame. > >I've also seen the existance of the .Xauthority file in the home directory >on the local Cygwin host cause problems. > >>From: "Meredith Finkelstein" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: "cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com" >>Subject: X windows display problem >>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 >> >>Hi >>I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to >>solve my problem, which is: >> >>I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried >>both cygwin shell and cmd) >>then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host >>computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has >>X11Forwarding turned on >> >>when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: >> >>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: >> >>this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, >>xwindows. >>and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages >> >>Any suggestions? >>Thanks, >>Meredith >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 18:30:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:30:00 -0000 Subject: X windows display problem Message-ID: Doh. One more thing. Be sure to run the ssh command from an xterm within XWin. If you're running ssh from the same Cygwin prompt from which you issued startxwin.sh, then that is very likely the source of your problem. >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com >Subject: Re: X windows display problem >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:17:29 -0400 > >I guess I should have read your message a little more carefully before >replying. You said that sshd has been configure with X11Forwarding turned >on. > >Give the following a try: > >1) On the local system, before running ssh, echo the value of DISPLAY. It >should have a value of ":0.0" or something similar. If it >doesn't, manually set it to the correct value. Verify its value by running >a simple xclient like xeyes. >2) Run your ssh -X command. >3) On the remote system, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value >of ":10.0" or something similar. If it doesn't have the >right value, try setting it manually. If that doesn't work, then I'm >stumped. > >>From: "Thomas Chadwick" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, meredith@www.honeybeerobotics.com >>Subject: Re: X windows display problem >>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:07:13 -0400 >> >>What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote >>machine after running ssh? >> >>It should have a value of ":10.0", or something similar. >> >>If it's empty, or the value looks like ":0.0", >>">forwarding. >> >>Note that the ssh daemon on the remote machine has to be explicitly told >>to enable X forwarding. This might be to blame. >> >>I've also seen the existance of the .Xauthority file in the home directory >>on the local Cygwin host cause problems. >> >>>From: "Meredith Finkelstein" >>>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>>To: "cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com" >>>Subject: X windows display problem >>>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 >>> >>>Hi >>>I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems >>>to >>>solve my problem, which is: >>> >>>I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have >>>tried >>>both cygwin shell and cmd) >>>then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host >>>computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has >>>X11Forwarding turned on >>> >>>when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: >>> >>>xterm Xt error: Can't open display: >>> >>>this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, >>>xwindows. >>>and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages >>> >>>Any suggestions? >>>Thanks, >>>Meredith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From c_twiner@hotmail.com Fri Aug 30 22:22:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:22:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: >I can't tell if you have enough of an understanding of X11 to write a proposed solution that actually makes sense. At least, I can't make any sense out of your proposal. I understand what he's saying but XLib seems quite against the idea : XSetIOErrorHandler is the first thing and the last thing that happens. Automagically unfortunately so it "can't" be recovered from. What I'm confused about is what does this matter? For me it's a great place to close the hook (stops the hook from not working the next time xwinclip is started). In fact the only thing for me now is to try and get a proper close notification when xwinclip is closed by the user. Ctrl-c doesn't cut it. As an aside it comes back to the Windoze window being visible again (could put a button on it to disable xwinclip's activities, god knows why you'd want to though - as appose to just killing it then resarting it?-). Do you want this information because having a client that is within the x server could cause a big problem when the server disconnects? Personally I think we'd be better off keeping it out of XWin anyway, possibly have it start it but it really is a seperate tool KISS and all that. Why do we need to know when the server is about to close? Chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From c_twiner@hotmail.com Sat Aug 31 05:17:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 05:17:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Harold, As an aside this link explains that the only way is to longjmp/setjmp. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/Xt-FAQ/section-19.html If the intention is to fully integrate xwinclip into XWin then this would be unwanted to say the least. Given XWin would close anyway you'd still want xwinclip to close with it. Chris _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Aug 31 06:01:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 06:01:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling References: Message-ID: <3D705278.6040306@msu.edu> Chris, Excellent detective work. It looks like longjmp setjmp is the way to go. I will give it a try someday, unless you want to do it first. The reason that catching a server reset is so important is that we should not be killed when the server resets and we should try to connect to the server again if it resets. Part of this makes it easy to stay connected when a user is using XDMCP to connect to a remote machine. Also, we can never integrate clipboard support into XWin.exe until we can be assured that the server will not be killed when it resets. Later, Harold Chris Twiner wrote: > Harold, > > As an aside this link explains that the only way is to longjmp/setjmp. > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/Xt-FAQ/section-19.html > > If the intention is to fully integrate xwinclip into XWin then this > would be unwanted to say the least. Given XWin would close anyway > you'd still want xwinclip to close with it. > > Chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > From c_twiner@hotmail.com Sat Aug 31 09:55:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Harold, >Excellent detective work. It looks like longjmp setjmp is the way to go. I will give it a try someday, unless you want to do it first. Thanks, I'll give it a bash. Best place is right at the beginning I think, all the resources will be useless anyway, as they are tied to the old display connection. I've not used setjmp and longjmp before (c++ guy, love those exceptions) so it will be a good thing anyway for me to do them (at least for me:-). >The reason that catching a server reset is so important is that we should not be killed when the server resets and we should try to connect to the server again if it resets. Part of this makes it easy to stay connected when a user is using XDMCP to connect to a remote machine. Also, we can never integrate clipboard support into XWin.exe until we can be assured that the server will not be killed when it resets. That's what I thought the reason was, I'm still not sure that integrating makes that much sense, the jmp solution would seem to solve that but the problem with it is it rewinds the stack right back to the setjmp, that means that whatever else that process has been doing it's screwed. Hence it would have to be forked or spawned anyway. I'll get it restarting anyway, shouldn't take too long. Laters, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From c_twiner@hotmail.com Sat Aug 31 20:28:00 2002 From: c_twiner@hotmail.com (Chris Twiner) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 20:28:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip re selection polling Message-ID: Hi All, Ok, Harold the jmp is in place (i'm closing the hook and freeing the library first of course) and it works. I needed to change the dll though as it was still using the old HWND for the old cygwin/XFree86 window. If a restart is done off the server menu nothing different seems to happen. It all seems to work fine. Close XWin and it restarts xwinclip (after the freeing of resources), then restart XWin and it reconnects (if it's not out of retries) then all is well in the world. Laters and have a good weekend, Mine is full of a street party outside my door, thankfully they stop playing music at 2am. Chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx