From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Dec 1 05:05:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 05:05:00 -0000 Subject: Latest XFree86/cygwin strange behavoir In-Reply-To: <16377705702.20021129210957@serebryakov.spb.ru> Message-ID: Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello cygwin-xfree, > > (1) Could I pass some option to Xwin.exe, that prevents it from > resetting after last client? I don't have any X clients except > `xhost' ob my very poor windows machine, and I could not use > xhost, because after it disconnection X server resets and > forgets about added host :) -noreset bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Dec 1 16:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 16:44:00 -0000 Subject: fvwm-2.4.7-2 install missing /usr/local/etc/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc? References: <000001c2978f$3274ad20$baa30c80@springbok> Message-ID: <3DEAACFE.20509@msu.edu> Michael, Maintainership of fvwm is yours if you want it. Harold Michael Bax wrote: > In followup to my earlier message: > > >>INSTALL.fvwm from the fvwm source tarfile (fvwm.org) suggests >>copying system.fvwm2rc to /usr/local/etc/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc >>to provide a system default. This file does not appear to be >>present in the Cygwin package, but it seems that installing >>this file to the correct place would be the most transparent >>way to streamline fvwm setup. > > > The Cygwin version of fvwm2 appears to be configured slightly > differently from the default. The appropriate directories for > system.fvwm2rc are > ${datadir}/fvwm --> /usr/X11R6/share/fvwm > and > ${sysconfdir} --> /etc (why not /usr/local/etc or even > /etc/X11?) > > As a possible alternative to supplying this default configuration file, > what about installing fwwm-icons along with a configuration > pre-generated by FvwmScript-Setup95? > > Cheers > Michael > From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Sun Dec 1 21:20:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:20:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1038556506.3de71d5aa0147@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> References: <1038556506.3de71d5aa0147@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Message-ID: <3DEAED91.9080907@email-server.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > Well, how is xkbcomp.exe called, so that it segfault? Does really nobody have an idea? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From graham.bloice@trihedral.com Mon Dec 2 04:30:00 2002 From: graham.bloice@trihedral.com (Graham Bloice) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 04:30:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 Message-ID: Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. Regards, Graham Bloice From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 2 05:29:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 05:29:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEAED91.9080907@email-server.info> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > Well, how is xkbcomp.exe called, so that it segfault? > > Does really nobody have an idea? There are some commandlines for xkbcomp in the archives. AFAIR the xkbcomp is called in a similar way from the server. try this one: xkbcomp -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From moser@decodon.com Mon Dec 2 08:43:00 2002 From: moser@decodon.com (Frank-Michael Moser) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 08:43:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEB8D94.70309@decodon.com> Graham Bloice wrote: > Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named > app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib > post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. So finally we got the culprit ;) which was already discussed in that thread: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00200.html http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00216.html -- ------------------------------------------------------------ DECODON GmbH phone: +49(0)3834 515231 W.-Rathenau-Str. 49a fax: +49(0)3834 515239 17489 Greifswald email: moser@decodon.com Germany web: www.decodon.com ------------------------------------------------------------ From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Mon Dec 2 09:10:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:10:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: <3DEAED91.9080907@email-server.info> Message-ID: <20021202171000.GC31538@teich.Garten.DigitalProjects.com> So sprach Alexander Gottwald am 2002-12-02 um 14:29:24 +0100 : > try this one: > xkbcomp -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm Okay, it also segfaults. I've called it from a DOS cmd prompt like this: strace --output=c:\temp\2xkb-strace.txt c:\cygwin\etc\X11\xkb\xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de4.xkm Please see the strace output at http://message-center.info/stuff/2xkb-strace.txt). /tmp/de4.xkm did not get created. xkbcomp also seg faults with STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION, when I call it from the Cygwin bash shell. Any further ideas about why xkbcomp segfaults? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 3 days 23 hours 6 minutes From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 2 15:07:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:07:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <20021202171000.GC31538@teich.Garten.DigitalProjects.com> Message-ID: Alexander Skwar wrote: > Please see the strace output at > http://message-center.info/stuff/2xkb-strace.txt). /tmp/de4.xkm did not > get created. xkbcomp also seg faults with STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION, when > I call it from the Cygwin bash shell. I've took a look on the trace, but could not find anything that seemed to be the cause for the crash. The last action was close() on /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86, so I'd suggest installing all files in /etc/X11/xkb again. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From danilo.turina@alcatel.it Tue Dec 3 00:04:00 2002 From: danilo.turina@alcatel.it (Danilo Turina) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:04:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEC6575.5000509@alcatel.it> Finally, I understand why, at some point, all the app-defaults disappeared. I had to fix them manually, now I know the cause. Graham Bloice wrote: > Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named > app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib > post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. > > Regards, > > Graham Bloice > > > From danilo.turina@alcatel.it Tue Dec 3 01:15:00 2002 From: danilo.turina@alcatel.it (Danilo Turina) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 01:15:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEC6575.5000509@alcatel.it> Finally, I understand why, at some point, all the app-defaults disappeared. I had to fix them manually, now I know the cause. Graham Bloice wrote: > Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named > app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib > post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. > > Regards, > > Graham Bloice > > > From RRitchie680@cs.com Tue Dec 3 06:32:00 2002 From: RRitchie680@cs.com (Rob Ritchie) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: , new information... Message-ID: <59440-220021223141332296@zipdrip.com> Dear Friend, Hi! I hope everything is going well with you. Insurance Agents like me are constantly having to evaluate new products, new hybrids, etc. I wanted to let you know about one of these "newish" products -- life insurance that actually includes provisions (in the form of riders) for long-term care. Is this a good deal? Well, it depends. But, to be honest, if you are looking for something that will cover your expenses if you need to be cared for on a long-term basis, life insurance is a poor substitute for long-term care coverage. Life insurance with long-term care riders offers two options: 1) An acceleration rider that allows you to get an advance on your death benefit; and, 2) an extension that increases the benefit to provide for long- term care expenses. These riders vary by company, with some allowing you to collect a percentage of the death benefit each month and others that reimburse your policy for long-term care expenses you incur, thereby keeping your death benefit the same. There are two potential problems with the riders: * Some of them require substantial deterioration in your health before you can collect benefits. * They don't have monthly benefits that pay anywhere near the full costs you would incur for long-term care. As an example, a one-year stay in a nursing home can cost anywhere from $30,000 to $60,000 or more, depending on the level of care you need. Long-term care options in life insurance likely won't provide more than a fraction of these amounts. Despite this, the long-term care rider in life insurance could be an option for people with a fairly high income level and significant assets. Again, I hope everything is going well! Sincerely, Rob Ritchie www.RRitchie-Ins.com RRitchie680@cs.com PS: Friend, please call our office if you have any questions about life insurance, term or otherwise - or any other part of your financial planning and protection. Or you can email me. Just hit "reply" and send me a message. I'll get back to you as soon as I can! __________________________________________________________________ To modify your subscriber options or stop future messages, click below: http://www.friendlyemails.com/u.asp?s=165470 From proven_r@teleadmin.com Tue Dec 3 06:32:00 2002 From: proven_r@teleadmin.com (proven_r@teleadmin.com) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: trouble with xfree Message-ID: hi i am a newbies with cygwin and need some help. i have install with sucess cygwin and xfree and sshd on 2 computers and i try lunch by ssh a distant process on xfree as explain in Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide. i do (inside xterm in xfree of coursse) the ssh -X -l administrateur 192.168.0.19 it's works but i get the msg : Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. then i try lunch a "distant" cession of xterm: /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm& and i get the error msg : X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). for information i have try uncomment the lines about X11 forwarding (sshd_config) on the cygwin sshd server on the distant host to. I have try with the line disabled or enabled for getting the same result. my sshd_config : # This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file. See # sshd_config(5) for more information. # This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a # default value. Port 22 #Protocol 2,1 #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress :: # HostKey for protocol version 1 #HostKey /etc/ssh_host_key # HostKeys for protocol version 2 #HostKey /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key #HostKey /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key #KeyRegenerationInterval 3600 #ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging #obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging #SyslogFacility AUTH #LogLevel INFO # Authentication: #LoginGraceTime 120 #PermitRootLogin yes # The following setting overrides permission checks on host key files # and directories. For security reasons set this to "yes" when running # NT/W2K, NTFS and CYGWIN=ntsec. StrictModes no #RSAAuthentication yes PubkeyAuthentication yes AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/authorized_keys (i preffer use the pub key authentication but i don't think it can be the trouble) # rhosts authentication should not be used #RhostsAuthentication no # Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files #IgnoreRhosts yes # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts #RhostsRSAAuthentication no # similar for protocol version 2 #HostbasedAuthentication no # Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for # RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication #IgnoreUserKnownHosts no # To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here! #PasswordAuthentication yes #PermitEmptyPasswords no # Change to no to disable s/key passwords #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes X11Forwarding yes (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) X11DisplayOffset 10 (try disable or enable this line) X11UseLocalhost yes (try disable or enable this line) PrintMotd yes (try disable or enable this line) PrintLastLog yes (try disable or enable this line) KeepAlive yes (try disable or enable this line) UseLogin no (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) UsePrivilegeSeparation yes (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) PermitUserEnvironment yes (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) Compression yes #MaxStartups 10 # no default banner path #Banner /some/path #VerifyReverseMapping no # override default of no subsystems Subsystem sftp /usr/sbin/sftp-server Please if you see where is the trouble , explain it to a poor newbies as me. thanks a lot friendly Provencal romain 10 rue du docteur roux 75015 0147342757 0609846053 From RRitchie680@cs.com Tue Dec 3 10:11:00 2002 From: RRitchie680@cs.com (Rob Ritchie) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:11:00 -0000 Subject: , new information... Message-ID: <49740-2200212231413320@zipdrip.com> Dear Friend, Hi! I hope everything is going well with you. Insurance Agents like me are constantly having to evaluate new products, new hybrids, etc. I wanted to let you know about one of these "newish" products -- life insurance that actually includes provisions (in the form of riders) for long-term care. Is this a good deal? Well, it depends. But, to be honest, if you are looking for something that will cover your expenses if you need to be cared for on a long-term basis, life insurance is a poor substitute for long-term care coverage. Life insurance with long-term care riders offers two options: 1) An acceleration rider that allows you to get an advance on your death benefit; and, 2) an extension that increases the benefit to provide for long- term care expenses. These riders vary by company, with some allowing you to collect a percentage of the death benefit each month and others that reimburse your policy for long-term care expenses you incur, thereby keeping your death benefit the same. There are two potential problems with the riders: * Some of them require substantial deterioration in your health before you can collect benefits. * They don't have monthly benefits that pay anywhere near the full costs you would incur for long-term care. As an example, a one-year stay in a nursing home can cost anywhere from $30,000 to $60,000 or more, depending on the level of care you need. Long-term care options in life insurance likely won't provide more than a fraction of these amounts. Despite this, the long-term care rider in life insurance could be an option for people with a fairly high income level and significant assets. Again, I hope everything is going well! Sincerely, Rob Ritchie www.RRitchie-Ins.com RRitchie680@cs.com PS: Friend, please call our office if you have any questions about life insurance, term or otherwise - or any other part of your financial planning and protection. Or you can email me. Just hit "reply" and send me a message. I'll get back to you as soon as I can! __________________________________________________________________ To modify your subscriber options or stop future messages, click below: http://www.friendlyemails.com/u.asp?s=165441 From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Dec 3 11:06:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 11:06:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, J S wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > When I try to run the command: > > > > XWin -query smpd9 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > > > that brings up the solaris xdmcp session if I'm running XFree86 on win >XP/2K > > or NT. But if I try to run this on windows 95, it bombs out. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Good. A very short error description with nearly no information. > >What's in /tmp/XWin.log >What does xdm tell >Is there any network traffic > > > Is this because Xfree86 doesn't support XDMCP on Windows 95? > >It does support windows 95. > >bye > ago The Xwin.log says: Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't any errors in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config /usr/openwin/lib/xdm/xdm-config-debug /dev/fb: No such file or directory Graphics Adapter device /dev/fb is of unknown type Fatal server error: InitOutput: Error loading module for /dev/fb XKillClient 0x80019a XKillClient 0x80019c XKillClient 0x8001a2 .. .. ignoring error ignoring error ignoring error .. .. XKillClient 0x40000e before XSync pseudoReset done done secure a57558.abc.com:0 xdm error (pid 13048): fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) ignoring error Tried the above a couple more times and it fired up the logon screen on the windows 95 machine, but I couldn't really tell from that why running the xdm from the win95 machine was failing. There weren't any errors produced in the logs either. Is the error above about the Graphics Adapter device significant? Anyway I did a snoop and there's definitely network traffic going on. Any more suggestions? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 3 12:47:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:47:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Fatal server error: > XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address > > And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't any errors > in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: > > xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config Why this port? The default port is 177. > /usr/openwin/lib/xdm/xdm-config-debug > > /dev/fb: No such file or directory > Graphics Adapter device /dev/fb is of unknown type > > Fatal server error: > InitOutput: Error loading module for /dev/fb > XKillClient 0x80019a > XKillClient 0x80019c > XKillClient 0x8001a2 > .. > .. > ignoring error > ignoring error > ignoring error > .. > .. > XKillClient 0x40000e > before XSync > pseudoReset done > done secure a57558.abc.com:0 > xdm error (pid 13048): fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) > ignoring error I can't find any hint which address was sent to xdm. But the "session declined" is similar to some errors with win95 we had some time ago. Can you please get http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ls_netdev.tar.gz, extract it and send me the output of ls_netdev-w95.exe? > Tried the above a couple more times and it fired up the logon screen on the > windows 95 machine, but I couldn't really tell from that why running the xdm > from the win95 machine was failing. There weren't any errors produced in the > logs either. Is the error above about the Graphics Adapter device > significant? I guess the is a local display configured in /etc/.../xdm/Xservers > Anyway I did a snoop and there's definitely network traffic going on. NP: grauzone.02-12-02 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Dec 3 13:24:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:24:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald a ??crit??: > J S wrote: > > > Fatal server error: > > XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address > > > > And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't > any errors > > in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: > > > > xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config > > Why this port? The default port is 177. Alexander, this exactly Microsoft problem : M$ is building its products thinking all people is using defaults, hiding some bugs that appear only in some cases. Lets f*ck the student case ! We're in real life ! ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 3 13:33:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:33:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > > > xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config > > > > Why this port? The default port is 177. > Alexander, this exactly Microsoft problem : M$ is building its products > thinking all people is using defaults, hiding some bugs that appear > only in some cases. If I'm researching a problem, I try to reduce the number of possible failure points. A nondefault port for xdm is such a failure point. Was Xwin started with the correct parameter to reflect this nondefault port? If I could charge the user for support minutes, I would be happy if he would make the problem difficult to solve. You know why I've found that bug in cygwin with win95? Because I've read the documentation. All those man pages, MSDN, FAQ, webpages. I found the error and made a patch. But a lot of questions on this list could be easily solved if the users would read the documentation. bye ago NP: grauzone.02-12-02 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 3 13:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:39:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> Sylvain, I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would have been sufficient, right? Harold Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > --- Alexander Gottwald a > ??crit : > J S wrote: > >>>Fatal server error: >>>XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address >>> >>>And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't >> >>any errors >> >>>in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: >>> >>>xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config >> >>Why this port? The default port is 177. > > Alexander, this exactly Microsoft problem : M$ is building its products > thinking all people is using defaults, hiding some bugs that appear > only in some cases. > > Lets f*ck the student case ! We're in real life ! > > ===== > Sylvain Petreolle > spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net > Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html > ICQ #170597259 > > "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. > > ___________________________________________________________ > Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. > http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Tue Dec 3 13:43:00 2002 From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> References: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021203214025.GB16457@redhat.com> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >have been sufficient, right? AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined attitude. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 3 15:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:14:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> <20021203214025.GB16457@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3DED258B.2000703@msu.edu> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. Harold Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>have been sufficient, right? > > > AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is > confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone > know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. > > In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was > perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined > attitude. > > cgf From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Dec 3 15:21:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: > >Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >our messages. That's all. > >Harold > >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the case, >>>then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would have been >>>sufficient, right? >> >> >>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >> >>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>attitude. >> >>cgf Hi Everyone, Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being used by other people . I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? Thanks for the help, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Dec 3 15:30:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:30:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <3DED258B.2000703@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021203232119.50040.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> You're correct, I should have said 'product foo'... I took Microsoft as example because it was the first company I had in mind. I don't have anything against Microsoft, otherwise I wouldn't use Cygwin ;) In the company I'm working now, almost every network TCP port is customized. What I wanted to say is : If the port 1234 is used with some X servers with XDMCP and it crashes, some online customer helpdesk will say : "You don't use standard XDMCP port, I can't do anything for you. Get lost." I don't want Cygwin-Xfree to do the same. --- Harold L Hunt II a ??crit : > Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a > good > contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly > reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone > down our messages. That's all. > > Harold > > Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > >>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The > default > >>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has > > >>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the > > >>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 > would > >>have been sufficient, right? > > > > > > AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone > is > > confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting > everyone > > know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that > way. > > > > In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response > was > > perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some > imagined > > attitude. > > > > cgf > ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 3 15:33:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:33:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: <20021203232119.50040.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3DED3E96.1090609@msu.edu> Ah ha... okay, but in this case it would be good to at least rule out the non-standard port as a possible culprit. Once the port is ruled out, we can move on to other possible solutions. Harold Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > You're correct, I should have said 'product foo'... > I took Microsoft as example because it was the first company I had in > mind. I don't have anything against Microsoft, otherwise I wouldn't use > Cygwin ;) > > In the company I'm working now, almost every network TCP port is > customized. What I wanted to say is : > If the port 1234 is used with some X servers with XDMCP and it crashes, > some online customer helpdesk will say : "You don't use standard XDMCP > port, I can't do anything for you. Get lost." I don't want Cygwin-Xfree > to do the same. > > > --- Harold L Hunt II a ??crit : > >>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >>good >>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone >>down our messages. That's all. >> >>Harold >> >>Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>> >>default >> >>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>> >>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>> >>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 >>> >>would >> >>>>have been sufficient, right? >>> >>> >>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone >> >>is >> >>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >> >>everyone >> >>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that >> >>way. >> >>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response >> >>was >> >>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >> >>imagined >> >>>attitude. >>> >>>cgf >> >> > > > ===== > Sylvain Petreolle > spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net > Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html > ICQ #170597259 > > "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. > > ___________________________________________________________ > Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. > http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 3 19:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 19:05:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: Message-ID: <3DED3F64.9030801@msu.edu> Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: XDMCP OPTIONS X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification for more information. -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man- ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. -port port-num Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or -indirect options. Thus, you would do something like: XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 Harold J S wrote: > > > > >> >> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >> good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a >> friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >> sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >> >> Harold >> >> Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>> >>>> I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>> default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>> Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If >>>> that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses >>>> port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>> >>> >>> >>> AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>> confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>> know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>> >>> In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>> perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>> attitude. >>> >>> cgf >> > > Hi Everyone, > > Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... > The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was > because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being > used by other people . > > I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 > machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the > other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect > to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? > > Thanks for the help, > > JS. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Dec 3 19:47:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 19:47:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <20021204024040.GA20448@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20021204030500.65942.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> That's exactly what I have read in Alexander's answer: => Why this port? The default port is 177. Excuse me. > Your response would be barely understandable if someone had said "Hey > don't use a non-standard port!" but given that there was no hint of > that > in Alexander's response and it was very obvious that he was trying to > help I think the chiding tone of your message was misplaced. I think > maybe you should go back and read what you were responding to again. > Maybe you missed that fact. ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From cgf@redhat.com Wed Dec 4 04:22:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 04:22:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <20021204030500.65942.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021204024040.GA20448@redhat.com> <20021204030500.65942.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021204034804.GA21728@redhat.com> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 04:05:00AM +0100, Sylvain Petreolle wrote: >That's exactly what I have read in Alexander's answer: >=> Why this port? The default port is 177. >Excuse me. Um, that was a private message. Poor netiquette, there. cgf From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 04:27:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 04:27:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: Thanks, I tried specifying the port but nothing happened (incidentally the port number goes before the -query). I'm at a bit of a loss now as everyone on this list says that they can run xdmcp on windows 95, but I can't. Yet I can get it to run on win NT, 2000 and XP. The problem MUST then surely be related to something on windows 95. What else can I try to debug this? JS. >Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >XDMCP OPTIONS > X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. > See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification > for more information. > > -query host-name > Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- > fied host. > > -broadcast > Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets > to the network. The first responding display man- > ager will be chosen for the session. > > -indirect host-name > Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the > specified host. > > -port port-num > Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. > Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or > -indirect options. > > >Thus, you would do something like: >XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > >Harold > >J S wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >>>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >>>our messages. That's all. >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>>>>have been sufficient, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>> >>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>>>attitude. >>>> >>>>cgf >>> >> >>Hi Everyone, >> >>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>used by other people . >> >>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine >>from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way >>round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm >>debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? >> >>Thanks for the help, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 4 05:01:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 05:01:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039004871.3dedf4c782dfb@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hello Alexander! Zitat von Alexander Gottwald : > I've took a look on the trace, but could not find anything that seemed Thanks. > to be the cause for the crash. The last action was close() on > /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86, so I'd suggest installing all files in > /etc/X11/xkb again. I've deleted C:\cygwin and installed XFree-base and all of its dependencies again from the Internet. Same result; xkb still crashs. So I don't think it's the fault of xkb.exe but something's broken on my side - however I do not know what it might be. If somebody knows what this could be - or if someone at least has some hints about how I might find out what's wrong on my system - I'd be VERY happy! Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Wed Dec 4 06:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 06:40:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1039004871.3dedf4c782dfb@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> from "Alexander Skwar" at Dec 4, 2002 01:27:51 pm Message-ID: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Alexander, You have, of course, run a file search on your machine for cygwin1.dll, right? If you have more than one copy of cygwin1.dll, then you have problems. Harold > > Hello Alexander! > > Zitat von Alexander Gottwald : > > > I've took a look on the trace, but could not find anything that seemed > > Thanks. > > > to be the cause for the crash. The last action was close() on > > /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86, so I'd suggest installing all files in > > /etc/X11/xkb again. > > I've deleted C:\cygwin and installed XFree-base and all of its dependencies > again from the Internet. Same result; xkb still crashs. So I don't think > it's the fault of xkb.exe but something's broken on my side - however I do > not know what it might be. > > If somebody knows what this could be - or if someone at least has some > hints about how I might find out what's wrong on my system - I'd be VERY > happy! > > Thanks a lot, > > Alexander Skwar > -- > How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) > Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de > iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > From serhanbakir@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 06:44:00 2002 From: serhanbakir@hotmail.com (Serhan BAKIR) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 06:44:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin, turkish how to ? Message-ID: Hi, I've read the FAQ at Cygwin/XFree86 site to figure out how to map the keyboard inorder to use Turkish characters under X. As its said I've created the file 'xmodmap.trq' using xkeycaps at my redhat 7.3 box and copied it to my Cygwin directory under windows. After mapping with xmodmap program it seemed to be working. Altough not being able to type Turkish characters in bash, using xev and xtrapchar showed me that keys are working fine but missing Turkish fonts. So I got the fonts called XFree86-ISO8859-9-2.1.2-10.noarch.tgz XFree86-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-2.1.2-10.noarch.tgz XFree86-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-2.1.2-10.noarch.tgz lat5-16.psfu.gz put them into respective directories ( C:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts\...) But couldn't find the utility or script which will activate them. What should I do to see the Turkish fonts. I hope the problem is clear and easy to manage. Thank you very much for your helps... Serhan BAKIR _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 4 07:33:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hello Harrold, Zitat von Harold Leatherman Hunt II : > You have, of course, run a file search on your machine for cygwin1.dll, In fact, I haven't. I just did, and found the following files: /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/cygwin alt/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin halb okay/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/Klappt, aber noch zu gro??/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll However, only C:\cygwin\bin is in my %PATH%. The other files shouldn't hurt, should they? I'll remove those files and try again. Well Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 07:33:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: Hi, I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can connect to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like xclock I get: $ xclock Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 $ Xwin.log says: AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP 164.52.227.249 port 42421 I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is there anything else I should try? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 07:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:35:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Message-ID: <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> Yup, those other copies of cygwin1.dll certainly can hurt. They don't even have to be in your path. They just have to be loaded by some program that you did not realize is based on Cygwin. It looks like you did your search within Cygwin. Might I recommend that you use Windows Explorer's Search functionality to perform the search? Tell it to search all local drives. Perhaps they will find the same set of files, but I do the search with Windows and I would rather just have you run the search than for me to have to babble on and think hard about stuff... Harold Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hello Harrold, > > Zitat von Harold Leatherman Hunt II : > > >>You have, of course, run a file search on your machine for cygwin1.dll, > > > In fact, I haven't. I just did, and found the following files: > > /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/cygwin alt/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin halb okay/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/Klappt, aber noch zu > gro??/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll > > However, only C:\cygwin\bin is in my %PATH%. The other files shouldn't > hurt, should they? > > I'll remove those files and try again. > > Well > > Thanks a lot, > > Alexander Skwar From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 07:38:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:38:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEE20B1.1030904@msu.edu> JS, Run: xhost 164.52.227.249 I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. Harold J S wrote: > Hi, > > I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC > running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can > connect to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like > xclock I get: > > $ xclock > Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 > $ > > Xwin.log says: > > AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP > 164.52.227.249 port 42421 > > I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the > solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. > > Is there anything else I should try? > > Thanks, > > JS. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 08:03:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:03:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: Thanks, I tried that, but still no luck. >JS, > >Run: >xhost 164.52.227.249 > >I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC >>running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can connect >>to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like xclock I get: >> >>$ xclock >>Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server >>Xlib: No protocol specified >> >>Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 >>$ >> >>Xwin.log says: >> >>AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP >>164.52.227.249 port 42421 >> >>I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the >>solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. >> >>Is there anything else I should try? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >> _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 08:11:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:11:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: I'm doing xwin& xhost +& Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. >JS, > >Run: >xhost 164.52.227.249 > >I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC >>running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can connect >>to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like xclock I get: >> >>$ xclock >>Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server >>Xlib: No protocol specified >> >>Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 >>$ >> >>Xwin.log says: >> >>AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP >>164.52.227.249 port 42421 >> >>I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the >>solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. >> >>Is there anything else I should try? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >> _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 08:13:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEE2947.60207@msu.edu> Hmm... I think you might have to set DISPLAY before running ``xhost +''. That seems to be your problem. Remember, xhost is an X Client, so it has to know what display it is trying to set the security for. Harold J S wrote: > > > I'm doing > > xwin& > xhost +& > > Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. > However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. > >> JS, >> >> Run: >> xhost 164.52.227.249 >> >> I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC >>> running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can >>> connect to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like >>> xclock I get: >>> >>> $ xclock >>> Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server >>> Xlib: No protocol specified >>> >>> Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 >>> $ >>> >>> Xwin.log says: >>> >>> AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP >>> 164.52.227.249 port 42421 >>> >>> I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the >>> solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. >>> >>> Is there anything else I should try? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> JS. >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Dec 4 08:19:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > I'm doing > > xwin& > xhost +& > > Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. > However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. This is a known problem. After the the client disconnects from the server, it is reset. Since xhost the only client, the xserver will right after xhost finished reset again and also reset the xhost settings. You can avoid this by always having another client connected (eg a local window manager, or a xterm) and then do host +. Or you can switch off the accesscontrol at startup by adding the "-ac" parameter to the XWin commandline. Security note: I do not recomend xhost + and the -ac parameter since they completely turn off the access control. Anybody on the network is then able to connect to your Xserver and may run programs which trace all keyboard input (think of secret passwords). The much better solution is starting a local ssh client with X-Forwarding DISPLAY=127.0.0.1 ssh -X remotehost and use the _encrypted_ X11 tunnel of ssh. ssh will do all things needed for correct access control bye ago From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 08:41:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:41:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: Thanks Alex, that's fixed it! >On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > > > > > I'm doing > > > > xwin& > > xhost +& > > > > Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. > > However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. > >This is a known problem. After the the client disconnects from the server, >it is reset. Since xhost the only client, the xserver will right after >xhost >finished reset again and also reset the xhost settings. You can avoid this >by always having another client connected (eg a local window manager, or >a xterm) and then do host +. Or you can switch off the accesscontrol at >startup by adding the "-ac" parameter to the XWin commandline. > >Security note: >I do not recomend xhost + and the -ac parameter since they completely turn >off >the access control. Anybody on the network is then able to connect to your >Xserver and may run programs which trace all keyboard input (think of >secret >passwords). >The much better solution is starting a local ssh client with X-Forwarding >DISPLAY=127.0.0.1 ssh -X remotehost >and use the _encrypted_ X11 tunnel of ssh. ssh will do all things needed >for >correct access control > >bye > ago _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 11:17:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:17:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: I tried using the -ac on here as well but it didn't work :( JS. >Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >XDMCP OPTIONS > X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. > See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification > for more information. > > -query host-name > Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- > fied host. > > -broadcast > Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets > to the network. The first responding display man- > ager will be chosen for the session. > > -indirect host-name > Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the > specified host. > > -port port-num > Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. > Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or > -indirect options. > > >Thus, you would do something like: >XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > >Harold > >J S wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >>>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >>>our messages. That's all. >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>>>>have been sufficient, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>> >>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>>>attitude. >>>> >>>>cgf >>> >> >>Hi Everyone, >> >>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>used by other people . >> >>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine >>from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way >>round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm >>debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? >> >>Thanks for the help, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 4 11:23:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:23:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Yup, those other copies of cygwin1.dll certainly can hurt. They don't > even have to be in your path. They just have to be loaded by some > program that you did not realize is based on Cygwin. Hi. I've now deleted those files and am only left with C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll aka. /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll aka. /bin/cygwin1.dll. Sadly, deleting the files didn't change anything. > It looks like you did your search within Cygwin. Might I recommend that > you use Windows Explorer's Search functionality to perform the search? > Tell it to search all local drives. Perhaps they will find the same set > of files, but I do the search with Windows and I would rather just have > you run the search than for me to have to babble on and think hard about > stuff... ? Actually, I'm *much* more comfortable with "find" and other console tools than with this Windows GUI junk. Anyhow, Explorer did not find anything else. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 14:17:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:17:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> Message-ID: <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> You have, of course, rebooted your machine? Harold Alexander Skwar wrote: > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >> Yup, those other copies of cygwin1.dll certainly can hurt. They don't >> even have to be in your path. They just have to be loaded by some >> program that you did not realize is based on Cygwin. > > > Hi. > > I've now deleted those files and am only left with > C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll aka. /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll aka. > /bin/cygwin1.dll. Sadly, deleting the files didn't change anything. > >> It looks like you did your search within Cygwin. Might I recommend >> that you use Windows Explorer's Search functionality to perform the >> search? Tell it to search all local drives. Perhaps they will find >> the same set of files, but I do the search with Windows and I would >> rather just have you run the search than for me to have to babble on >> and think hard about stuff... > > > ? Actually, I'm *much* more comfortable with "find" and other console > tools than with this Windows GUI junk. Anyhow, Explorer did not find > anything else. > > Alexander Skwar From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 4 19:02:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 19:02:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DEE7EEA.1020200@email-server.info> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > You have, of course, rebooted your machine? Yes, for sure. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From hyoung@operamail.com Wed Dec 4 20:25:00 2002 From: hyoung@operamail.com (Hansom Young) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:25:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages Message-ID: <20021205030159.14401.qmail@operamail.com> Hi, Now you can download some prebuilt packages from http://www.sourceforge.net/project/cygnome Currently only core libraries and a brunch of applications are available I've packaged all the core libraries into a single tarball cygnome-libs_1.4b1-x.tar.bz2 The same to cygnome-apps. But lib*.a in cygnome-libs-devel were stupidly stripped by me. (I'm a really newbie,) So at present you can not build GNOME application by yourself with it. This sunday I'll upload the other packages, including almost the whole GNOME 1.4 desktop (except Nautilus) and Sawfish, gnumeric etc. Note: In fact, nearly all the packages are built with the hints and patches distributed by Steven O'Brien at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2. All that I did are just building them, packaging them and uploading then there. (That doesn't mean he is responsible for the bugs and defects in this port). Still is there no one would like to help me? Sorry for the AD of operamail. Regards Hansom ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisi Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:57:52 +0200 To: hyoung@operamail.com Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages > Hi Hansom, > > I am definitely interested in a cygwin GNOME binary, like the KDE binary > which is available on sourceforge using the standard cygwin setup.exe (but > I have not yet managed to get running properly on Win98). Could you please > keep us updated, maybe by posting back on the list, when your port is > available for download? > > Thanks, > > -Lisi > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 23:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:28:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <002b01c293d3$d73da880$0101a8c0@lin> Message-ID: Kensuke, Very interesting patch. I have compiled a version of the multiwindow executable and checked it out. Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I have something go wrong with my patching? Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Kensuke Matsuzaki Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:09 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Rootless mode Hello, I am writing code for rootless mode. It creates Windows window for each X Window. I add "-multiwindow" option. With this I can use taskbar, move and resize window. But this sometimes does strange behaivor, and code is not clean. It seems to be difficult for me to write complete rootless mode, so those who are interested, please help. Kensuke Matsuzaki From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 5 05:05:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 05:05:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: References: <002b01c293d3$d73da880$0101a8c0@lin> Message-ID: Harold, It remains only for debugging. > Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is > not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I > have something go wrong with my patching? By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window manager. Kensuke Matsuzaki -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: rootless.patch.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11749 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 5 06:22:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 06:22:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession Message-ID: Hi, When I run /usr/dt/bin/dtsession (CDE) on XFree86 from a Solaris box, I can't get xwinclip to work. If I try to highlight some text by dragging the mouse over it, the highlight keeps flashing and and as soon as I release my mouse button the highlight goes as well. However if I run the /usr/dt/bin/Xsession, xwinclip does work, but the problem is when I start Xsession the startup screen keeps flashing until the desktop is loaded. Rgds, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Thu Dec 5 09:56:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate keystrokes Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A59059D3DC4@ACDFWX2.acd.de.ittind.com> Hello, I have noticed that my keystrokes are sometimes duplicated, invisibly. It happens in remote xterms, using ssh, usually when I am in gdb. 1. I run XWin in rootless mode on my desktop, with the ssh-agent in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh enabled. 2. Then I ssh(-add) into a remote Linux node, where I run gdb in an xterm on another Linux node. 3. I get duplicate commands/keystrokes in the above xterm/gdb session. Does anyone have similar experience? This message http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html seems to discuss a similar problem in a different context. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From Karel.Pienaar@morganstanley.com Thu Dec 5 11:32:00 2002 From: Karel.Pienaar@morganstanley.com (Karel Pienaar) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:32:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Windows ME and InfoExpress VSClient VPN Softrware Message-ID: <3DEF9353.C7B322EE@morganstanley.com> Machine is AMD Athlon 1.4 GHZ, Video = ATI RADEON ALL IN WONDER 7200, Windows ME with all latest patches etc. If I run the xserver without starting the VPN software, it runs just fine with great performance, however, as soon as I log onto my employer using the VPN software, it comes to a grinding halt. It is so slow that it is basically unusable. I really hope it is possible to make it work, because I think it is a great product and I would really like to use it. Thanks Karel From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Thu Dec 5 11:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:41:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate keystrokes In-Reply-To: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A59059D3DC4@ACDFWX2.acd.de.ittind.com> from "Virgilio, Vincent" at Dec 5, 2002 09:22:32 am Message-ID: <200212051932.gB5JW8S06186@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Vince, Yes, there are occasionally duplicated keystrokes. Unfortunately, as my February email describes (which I thank you for finding on your own and putting a link in your email), the problem is not trivial to solve. We will only gain new information and insight into this problem by spending about 20 hours carefully diagnosing the problem. I have already done that once and I hit a dead-end and was unable to find the source of the duplicated keystrokes. I am nut sure that I will ever find the source of the duplicated keystrokes on my own, so it is probably better for someone else to give it a try now. Good luck if you go for it, Harold > > Hello, > > I have noticed that my keystrokes are sometimes duplicated, invisibly. It > happens in remote xterms, using ssh, usually when I am in gdb. > > 1. I run XWin in rootless mode on my desktop, with the ssh-agent in > /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh enabled. > > 2. Then I ssh(-add) into a remote Linux node, where I run gdb in an xterm on > another Linux node. > > 3. I get duplicate commands/keystrokes in the above xterm/gdb session. > > Does anyone have similar experience? > > This message http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html > seems to discuss a similar problem in a different context. > > Regards, > > Vince Virgilio > > ************************************ > If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the > delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may > contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not > copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and > kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this > message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by > nor attributable to ITT. > ************************************ > > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Thu Dec 5 11:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:43:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Windows ME and InfoExpress VSClient VPN Softrware In-Reply-To: <3DEF9353.C7B322EE@morganstanley.com> from "Karel Pienaar" at Dec 5, 2002 11:56:35 am Message-ID: <200212051941.gB5JfJg83670@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Karel, Okay, there are two suspect points here: 1) ATI All In Wonder 7200 2) Your VPN Software ATI All In Wonder 7200 ====================== I recently had purchased an ATI All In Wonder 8500DV, which was a beautiful piece of equipment. However, the stock video drivers resulted in stuttering video playback (DVDs), dropped frames during recording video, and horrible, unusably slow performance in Cygwin/XFree86 when using DirectDraw-based engines. In addition, my machine froze whenever I tried to print a PDF from Adobe Acrobat and in various other situations. I installed Windows XP, thinking that Windows 2000 may have a problem with the card. However, Windows XP froze during setup if I moved the mouse. I managed to get Windows XP installed with only the keyboard, but the mouse still froze the computer when it was moved after Windows XP was fully installed. I updated the video drivers but the problem persisted. I then exchanged the video card, with the same results. I immediately realized that my IWILL motherboard was probably to blame, with its less than perfect AGP support, along with the fact that this was the first AGP video card I had used on the motherboard. So, I ordered a new ASUS motherboard for $130, figuring that would solve the problem. Then the fiance found out. The motherboard order was promptly cancelled amidst my grovelling :) We returned the video card and I then tested each of 5 old PCI video cards I have to find the one of them that does not produce interfence patterns on my 19 inch LCD monitor that we just picked up a few weeks ago. I am now unhappily using a 5 year old PCI video card that only supports 16 bit color at 1280 x 1024. Bummer. To make a long story short, your video drivers or your motherboard may be a culprit. VPN Software ============ Most VPN software replaces all or parts of the Windows TCP/IP stack, upon which Cygwin/XFree86 relies heavily. A lot of the VPN Software vendors are not experts on TCP/IP and they make some compromises in performance that they do not think will affect many users. Unfortunately, they are wrong, and their software does not work well with Cygwin/XFree86. There isn't much we can do about this other than to tell you to get some better VPN Software and to test it with all of your apps before you roll it out organization wide. I hope that helps. Harold > > Machine is AMD Athlon 1.4 GHZ, Video = ATI RADEON ALL IN WONDER 7200, > Windows ME with all latest patches etc. > > If I run the xserver without starting the VPN software, it runs just > fine with great performance, however, as soon as I log onto my employer > using the VPN software, it comes to a grinding halt. It is so slow that > it is basically unusable. > > I really hope it is possible to make it work, because I think it is a > great product and I would really like to use it. > > Thanks > Karel > > > > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Thu Dec 5 12:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:30:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: from "Kensuke Matsuzaki" at Dec 5, 2002 04:28:26 pm Message-ID: <200212051943.gB5JhNV88012@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Kensuke, Excellent. I will try to take a look at this patch tonight. I was hoping that the window manager would eventually be integrated into XWin.exe and I am interested in seeing how you did this. Thanks for your great patches. By the way, was your new patch a diff against the original CVS tree or against a tree that has already had your last patch applied? I noticed that your last patch was against an older version of some files in the CVS tree. I suggest that you run an cvs update, then use cvs diff instead of just diff. Harold > > --Multipart_Thu_Dec_05_16:28:26_2002-1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Harold, > > It remains only for debugging. > > > Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is > > not really usable? 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to use it. Which VPN software is it? What happens if you fire up the xserver after the VPN software? (Assumed you fired it up before). And is it local xterms that goes slow or? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 5 15:06:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 15:06:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession Message-ID: Are there any other ways to do copying and pasting in XFree86 other than using XWinclip? >Hi, > >When I run /usr/dt/bin/dtsession (CDE) on XFree86 from a Solaris box, I >can't get xwinclip to work. If I try to highlight some text by dragging the >mouse over it, the highlight keeps flashing and and as soon as I release my >mouse button the highlight goes as well. > >However if I run the /usr/dt/bin/Xsession, xwinclip does work, but the >problem is when I start Xsession the startup screen keeps flashing until >the desktop is loaded. > >Rgds, > >JS. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 5 21:37:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 21:37:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Are there any other ways to do copying and pasting in XFree86 other than > using XWinclip? If you only want to cut-and-paste only within X11 (not transferring the text to windows) the you don't need xwinclip. If you want to transfer the text to windows but can't use xwinclip, you can start an xterm from cygwin and do $ cat >/dev/clipboard an then paste the text to the xterm. End it with Ctrl-D (^D) on a new line the other way is $ cat /dev/clipboard or $ recode /CRLF.. References: <002b01c293d3$d73da880$0101a8c0@lin> Message-ID: <3DF037A3.3040908@pilot.msu.edu> Kensuke, The new patch is an architectual improvement. However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that I took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw up. :) I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through repeatedly. My log file from this session is on the web: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. Harold Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >Harold, > >It remains only for debugging. > > > >>Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is >>not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I >>have something go wrong with my patching? >> >> > >By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window manager. > >Kensuke Matsuzaki > > > From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Fri Dec 6 03:56:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bizvdm)) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate keystrokes Message-ID: <2FAEFC2A851BD211AD820008C7286BA402D7E416@NBIZ205> Yes, I still have it, happens a couple of times per day, but there are worse things in life. -----Original Message----- From: Virgilio, Vincent [mailto:Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com] Sent: donderdag 5 december 2002 15:23 To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Duplicate keystrokes Hello, I have noticed that my keystrokes are sometimes duplicated, invisibly. It happens in remote xterms, using ssh, usually when I am in gdb. 1. I run XWin in rootless mode on my desktop, with the ssh-agent in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh enabled. 2. Then I ssh(-add) into a remote Linux node, where I run gdb in an xterm on another Linux node. 3. I get duplicate commands/keystrokes in the above xterm/gdb session. Does anyone have similar experience? This message http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html seems to discuss a similar problem in a different context. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. 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From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 04:07:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > > Are there any other ways to do copying and pasting in XFree86 other than > > using XWinclip? > >If you only want to cut-and-paste only within X11 (not transferring the >text >to windows) the you don't need xwinclip. If you want to transfer the text >to >windows but can't use xwinclip, you can start an xterm from cygwin and do >$ cat >/dev/clipboard >an then paste the text to the xterm. End it with Ctrl-D (^D) on a new line >the other way is >$ cat and then select the text. Or you can write the text directly to >/dev/clipboard >Maybe you'll have to change the lineendings. Then use >$ recode ../CRLF >/dev/clipboard >or >$ recode /CRLF.. >NP: Terminal Choice - i don??t believe >-- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 Thanks for you answer Alex. Unfortunately I expect my users will want something more like Exceed where they just use their mouse. Does xwinclip work with xdm on your machine? If I do: xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc & xhost + (in the xdm window) xwinclip& It stops me being able to highlight text. Is there something wrong I'm doing in the above? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 6 04:36:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:36:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > Thanks for you answer Alex. Unfortunately I expect my users will want > something more like Exceed where they just use their mouse. > > Does xwinclip work with xdm on your machine? If I do: I just tested xwinclip for the first time and it works with xdm too. > xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc & > xhost + (in the xdm window) > xwinclip& > > It stops me being able to highlight text. Is there something wrong I'm doing > in the above? I don't know. I've never used xwinclip before and am not familar with the selection and cat-n-paste with X11. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 07:10:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip - setlocale error Message-ID: I downloaded the latest xwinclip but when I try to run it I get: $ xwinclip UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP setlocale() error The corresponding code is: /* Set the current locale? What does this do? */ if (fUnicodeSupport) { #ifdef X_LOCALE if (!_Xsetlocale (LC_ALL, "")) #else if (!setlocale (LC_ALL, "")) #endif { printf ("setlocale() error\n"); exit (1); } Can anyone explain to me what's happening here? I tried setting the LC_ALL variable but didn't get anywhere. Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 11:18:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: I just found out that if I do: xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set the depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work on my windows 95 machine? > >Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >XDMCP OPTIONS > X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. > See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification > for more information. > > -query host-name > Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- > fied host. > > -broadcast > Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets > to the network. The first responding display man- > ager will be chosen for the session. > > -indirect host-name > Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the > specified host. > > -port port-num > Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. > Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or > -indirect options. > > >Thus, you would do something like: >XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > >Harold > >J S wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >>>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >>>our messages. That's all. >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>>>>have been sufficient, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>> >>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>>>attitude. >>>> >>>>cgf >>> >> >>Hi Everyone, >> >>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>used by other people . >> >>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine >>from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way >>round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm >>debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? >> >>Thanks for the help, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Dec 6 13:08:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:08:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF0F817.8000708@pilot.msu.edu> JS, That depends, were you passing those parameters to XWin.exe when trying to use XDMCP? If you were, then yes, they are likely the reason that XDMCP was failing, as XWin.exe was failing to start. If you were not passing those parameters, then it really does not matter that XWin.exe fails with those parameters, as long as XWin.exe starts when you do not use those parameters. Harold J S wrote: > > I just found out that if I do: > > xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 > > on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set > the depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work on > my windows 95 machine? > >> >> Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >> XDMCP OPTIONS >> X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. >> See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification >> for more information. >> >> -query host-name >> Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- >> fied host. >> >> -broadcast >> Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets >> to the network. The first responding display man- >> ager will be chosen for the session. >> >> -indirect host-name >> Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the >> specified host. >> >> -port port-num >> Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. >> Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or >> -indirect options. >> >> >> Thus, you would do something like: >> XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 >> >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >>>> good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a >>>> friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >>>> sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >>>> >>>> Harold >>>> >>>> Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>>>> default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>>>> Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. >>>>>> If that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' >>>>>> uses port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>> confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >>>>> everyone >>>>> know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>>> >>>>> In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response >>>>> was >>>>> perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >>>>> imagined >>>>> attitude. >>>>> >>>>> cgf >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into >>> perspective... The reason for choosing some random port number for >>> debugging xdm was because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as >>> this machine is being used by other people . >>> >>> I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 >>> machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the >>> other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to >>> connect to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is >>> this possible? >>> >>> Thanks for the help, >>> >>> JS. >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 13:11:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:11:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: All i did was : xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc I didn't pass the extra parms so I guess there was a flaw in that theory! I'm clutching at straws a bit now though 'cos I'm desperate to sort this out. I would have a look at the source code but I can imagine it's going to be huge and I haven't got much time left to sort this out. Would I be right in saying though that the most likely cause has got to be something windows 95-network related since the original message said invalid address and this only occurs on win 95? > >JS, > >That depends, were you passing those parameters to XWin.exe when trying to >use XDMCP? If you were, then yes, they are likely the reason that XDMCP >was failing, as XWin.exe was failing to start. If you were not passing >those parameters, then it really does not matter that XWin.exe fails with >those parameters, as long as XWin.exe starts when you do not use those >parameters. > >Harold > >J S wrote: > >> >>I just found out that if I do: >> >>xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 >> >>on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set the >>depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work on my >>windows 95 machine? >> >>> >>>Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >>>XDMCP OPTIONS >>> X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. >>> See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification >>> for more information. >>> >>> -query host-name >>> Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- >>> fied host. >>> >>> -broadcast >>> Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets >>> to the network. The first responding display man- >>> ager will be chosen for the session. >>> >>> -indirect host-name >>> Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the >>> specified host. >>> >>> -port port-num >>> Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. >>> Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or >>> -indirect options. >>> >>> >>>Thus, you would do something like: >>>XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 >>> >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>J S wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >>>>>good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a >>>>>friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >>>>>sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >>>>> >>>>>Harold >>>>> >>>>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>>>>>default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>>>>>Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If >>>>>>>that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses >>>>>>>port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >>>>>>everyone >>>>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>>>> >>>>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >>>>>>imagined >>>>>>attitude. >>>>>> >>>>>>cgf >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>>>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>>>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>>>used by other people . >>>> >>>>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 >>>>machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the >>>>other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect >>>>to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is this >>>>possible? >>>> >>>>Thanks for the help, >>>> >>>>JS. >>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>>>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>>> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 14:23:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:23:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode Message-ID: >Kensuke, > >The new patch is an architectual improvement. > >However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it jumps >back to its original position and retraces the move path that I took it on, >over and over again until I feel like I will throw up. :) > >I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue of >messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >repeatedly. > >My log file from this session is on the web: >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) > >The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. > >Harold > >Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: > >>Harold, >> >>It remains only for debugging. >> >> >> >>>Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it >>>is >>>not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I >>>have something go wrong with my patching? >>> >>> >> >>By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window manager. >> >>Kensuke Matsuzaki >> >> >> How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows manager? _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Dec 6 14:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF12353.9010505@pilot.msu.edu> Well, do you have any VPN software installed on the Windows 95 machine, or have you previously had some VPN software installed on that machine? A lot of the VPN programs replace many of the networking files and they are usually incompatible with Cygwin/XFree86. Some of those programs cause problems with Cygwin/XFree86 even when they are not running. A smaller number of these programs do not remove their networking files that they replaced when they are uninstalled, so they permanently make the machine incompatible with Cygwin/XFree86. There is no inherent reason why XDMCP would not work with Windows 95, so I think there is something going on with the software that has been installed on that machine. Harold J S wrote: > All i did was : > > xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc > > I didn't pass the extra parms so I guess there was a flaw in that > theory! I'm clutching at straws a bit now though 'cos I'm desperate to > sort this out. I would have a look at the source code but I can > imagine it's going to be huge and I haven't got much time left to sort > this out. Would I be right in saying though that the most likely cause > has got to be something windows 95-network related since the original > message said invalid address and this only occurs on win 95? > >> >> JS, >> >> That depends, were you passing those parameters to XWin.exe when >> trying to use XDMCP? If you were, then yes, they are likely the >> reason that XDMCP was failing, as XWin.exe was failing to start. If >> you were not passing those parameters, then it really does not matter >> that XWin.exe fails with those parameters, as long as XWin.exe starts >> when you do not use those parameters. >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> >>> I just found out that if I do: >>> >>> xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 >>> >>> on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set >>> the depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work >>> on my windows 95 machine? >>> >>>> >>>> Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >>>> XDMCP OPTIONS >>>> X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. >>>> See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification >>>> for more information. >>>> >>>> -query host-name >>>> Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- >>>> fied host. >>>> >>>> -broadcast >>>> Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets >>>> to the network. The first responding display man- >>>> ager will be chosen for the session. >>>> >>>> -indirect host-name >>>> Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the >>>> specified host. >>>> >>>> -port port-num >>>> Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. >>>> Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or >>>> -indirect options. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thus, you would do something like: >>>> XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 >>>> >>>> >>>> Harold >>>> >>>> J S wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is >>>>>> a good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up >>>>>> a friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >>>>>> sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Harold >>>>>> >>>>>> Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>>>>>> default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>>>>>> Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their >>>>>>>> products. If that was the case, then a simple mention that >>>>>>>> ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when >>>>>>> someone is >>>>>>> confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >>>>>>> everyone >>>>>>> know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that >>>>>>> way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's >>>>>>> response was >>>>>>> perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >>>>>>> imagined >>>>>>> attitude. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cgf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into >>>>> perspective... The reason for choosing some random port number for >>>>> debugging xdm was because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 >>>>> as this machine is being used by other people . >>>>> >>>>> I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 >>>>> machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it >>>>> the other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to >>>>> connect to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is >>>>> this possible? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the help, >>>>> >>>>> JS. >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>>>> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>>>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Dec 6 14:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:50:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> JS, Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode is to create a Windows-window for each top-level X Window, rather than creating one huge window for your entire X desktop. Harold J S wrote: > > >> Kensuke, >> >> The new patch is an architectual improvement. >> >> However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it >> jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that I >> took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw up. :) >> >> I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue >> of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >> repeatedly. >> >> My log file from this session is on the web: >> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) >> >> The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. >> >> Harold >> >> Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >> >>> Harold, >>> >>> It remains only for debugging. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even >>>> thought it is >>>> not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or >>>> did I >>>> have something go wrong with my patching? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window >>> manager. >>> >>> Kensuke Matsuzaki >>> >>> >>> > > How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought > that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have > windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up > with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows > manager? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > From Stephen.allott@cel.com Fri Dec 6 14:57:00 2002 From: Stephen.allott@cel.com (Allott, Stephen) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:57:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem Message-ID: I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it ever got solved? Steve Allott From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Dec 6 23:46:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:46:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF12B52.6050201@pilot.msu.edu> Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to answer your question very quickly! Harold Allott, Stephen wrote: >I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it ever got solved? > >Steve Allott > > From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Dec 7 02:34:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:34:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: <20021207074333.GA8825@ripcord.co.nz> Yep, There are lots of them :) I even wrote one :) http://xlauncher.sf.net It's written in Delphi though, so can't be included in the cygwin distribution :( Hopefully someone will start writing one in straight C/C++ calling the Win32 API, so it could go in cygwin, so people will stop writing their own in non-free languages every month ;-) Tim. On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:48:49PM -0000, Vince Hoffman wrote: > I seem to remember post about something similar, try searching the archives > for 'connection tool' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:lists.ASkwar@email-server.info] > > Sent: 29 November 2002 14:26 > > To: Cygwin XWin Mailingliste > > Subject: Host Chooser Program? > > > > > > Hi! > > > > Now that I've (kinda) got XWin running, I'm looking for a > > program which > > will let me type in the name of the host that I want to connect to. > > > > What I'm trying to do, is to have a shell script, which will > > run some sort > > of Windows GUI program where the user can enter something. > > This "something" > > should then be used as the parameter to the -query option. > > Kinda like this: > > > > XWin.exe -query $(user_prompter) > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alexander Skwar > > -- > > How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) > > Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de > > iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------- > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > > From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sat Dec 7 11:18:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF12B52.6050201@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> He's referring to a very old message on this list concerning 8bit PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree and Cadence. Cadence is a CAD package that requires that feature -- and since PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree is sketchy at best, you can't really use it to xhost cadence. (Which is the primary reason I'm still using XWin32, personally). Stephen -- nope, I don't think you can xhost cadence using cygwin-xfree yet. (And next time, include a little background. Not everybody instantly recalls every message on this list from the past four years) --Chuck Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to > answer your question very quickly! > > Harold > > Allott, Stephen wrote: > >> I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it >> ever got solved? From andrew.markebo@telia.com Sat Dec 7 11:49:00 2002 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:49:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: Message-ID: / "J S" wrote: | All i did was : > | xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc > | I didn't pass the extra parms so I guess there was a flaw in that | theory! I'm clutching at straws a bit now though 'cos I'm desperate to | sort this out. I would have a look at the source code but I can | imagine it's going to be huge and I haven't got much time left to sort | this out. Would I be right in saying though that the most likely cause | has got to be something windows 95-network related since the original | message said invalid address and this only occurs on win 95? Just another wild thought.. not only VPN.. any other socket handling/protecting software on the 95? Does the machine have winsock 2 (does cygwin require winsock 2?)?? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Dec 7 11:59:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:59:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Would I be right > in saying though that the most likely cause has got to be something windows > 95-network related since the original message said invalid address and this > only occurs on win 95? Have you already tried the ls_netdev tool as suggested? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Dec 7 22:38:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 22:38:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Andrew Markebo wrote: > Just another wild thought.. not only VPN.. any other socket > handling/protecting software on the 95? Does the machine have winsock > 2 (does cygwin require winsock 2?)?? no. cygwin does work even with the old win95a class socket layer bye -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Dec 8 01:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 01:30:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: Chuck, I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem He's referring to a very old message on this list concerning 8bit PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree and Cadence. Cadence is a CAD package that requires that feature -- and since PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree is sketchy at best, you can't really use it to xhost cadence. (Which is the primary reason I'm still using XWin32, personally). Stephen -- nope, I don't think you can xhost cadence using cygwin-xfree yet. (And next time, include a little background. Not everybody instantly recalls every message on this list from the past four years) --Chuck Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to > answer your question very quickly! > > Harold > > Allott, Stephen wrote: > >> I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it >> ever got solved? From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sun Dec 8 09:38:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:38:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3DF310C7.30004@ece.gatech.edu> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. Correct. > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing. OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so it's tolerable. As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. --Chuck From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sun Dec 8 10:36:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 10:36:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3DF310C7.30004@ece.gatech.edu> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. Correct. > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing. OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so it's tolerable. As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. --Chuck From zephod@drizzle.com Sun Dec 8 13:27:00 2002 From: zephod@drizzle.com (Bill Hughey) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:27:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> <3DF310C7.30004@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <003601c29e7d$ac6647c0$0201a8c0@billhu1> Fellow X'ers, Try running your Cadence app in an evaluation copy of WRQ's RX product. I wrote the pseudocolor emulation layer (second version) and would be interested in your impression. At the time the Cadence customers were Sony, Cannon, Mitsubishi, etc. They seemed to be happy with the results: simultaneous pseudocolor and 24bit truecolor windows with arbitrary numbers of installed 8bit colormaps (also simultaneous). If anyone is interested in working on this issue I would be happy to consult with them on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wilson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:28 AM Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. > > Correct. > > > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... > > Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It > wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless > you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same > display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. > > Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 > supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not > any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an > Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other > windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit > colorflashing. > > OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple > windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native > windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- > so it's tolerable. > > As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the > cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. > > --Chuck > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Dec 8 13:52:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:52:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: <003601c29e7d$ac6647c0$0201a8c0@billhu1> Message-ID: Bill, So, are you here just to shill for your commercial product, or do you intend on making contributions to Cygwin/XFree86. If you are here for the former, you can just leave now and spare us from banning you. If, on the other hand, you intend to make contributions to Cygwin/XFree86, then you are welcome to stay so long as said shilling ceases. Thanks and have a nice day, Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Bill Hughey Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:50 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem Fellow X'ers, Try running your Cadence app in an evaluation copy of WRQ's RX product. I wrote the pseudocolor emulation layer (second version) and would be interested in your impression. At the time the Cadence customers were Sony, Cannon, Mitsubishi, etc. They seemed to be happy with the results: simultaneous pseudocolor and 24bit truecolor windows with arbitrary numbers of installed 8bit colormaps (also simultaneous). If anyone is interested in working on this issue I would be happy to consult with them on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wilson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:28 AM Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. > > Correct. > > > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... > > Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It > wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless > you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same > display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. > > Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 > supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not > any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an > Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other > windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit > colorflashing. > > OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple > windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native > windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- > so it's tolerable. > > As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the > cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. > > --Chuck > > > From vervoom@hotmail.com Sun Dec 8 17:05:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 17:05:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: > >J S wrote: > > > Would I be right > > in saying though that the most likely cause has got to be something >windows > > 95-network related since the original message said invalid address and >this > > only occurs on win 95? > >Have you already tried the ls_netdev tool as suggested? > >bye > ago >-- Hi Alex, Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow when I go back to work. Also I've just tried to run xdmcp from home (over PPP) but it failed. Nothing was written to xwin.log but I tried ls_netdev and got the following: BASH-2.05b$ xwin -query 161.2.3.54 -from 161.2.160.45 BASH-2.05b$ ls Makefile ls_netdev ls_netdev-w95.exe ls_netdev.c ls_netdev.exe BASH-2.05b$ ls_netdev.exe ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ OS Version: Windows 9x 4.10 Build 67766446 A Querying devices using ioctl lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=161.2.160.45 lo: metric=1 mtu=276 eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 Querying devices using internal function ifname: "0000" driver: "NetTrans\0000" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "MS$PPP" lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 BASH-2.05b$ Anything suspicious there? _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 9 09:41:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > when I go back to work. Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > Anything suspicious there? Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* bye ago NP: Blutengel - Wonderland -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 09:41:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem Message-ID: >From: Charles Wilson >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem >Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 04:28:39 -0500 > >Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine >>either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. >>Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed >>mode >>with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. > >Correct. > >>Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 >>even >>when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be >>disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support >>and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... > >Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It wants >a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have >support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display. >AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. > >Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 >supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any >other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in >"full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside >it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing. > >OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple >windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native >windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so >it's tolerable. > >As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the >cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. > >--Chuck If you don't like the color flashing, perhaps you could mitigate it by running 2 instances of XWin on 2 different screen numbers? If you shift the Windows desktop into 8-bit color mode and run both instances of XWin in rootless mode, you'd hardly know that you were running 2 different servers (except you'll have to take care to get the DISPLAY variable set just right). Just my $0.02. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 09:44:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > Here's the output I got from ls_netdev, although what's confusing is I'm > > using a token ring network connection, not ethernet as the output seems >to > > suggest: > >The code for win95 can only distinguish between ppp and other network >interfaces. > > > > > $ ls_netdev-w95 > > ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ > > OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B > > Querying devices using ioctl > > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > >That's the problem. Does the adapter get its IP via dhcp? > >Can you please send me a registry dump of >HKLM\\Enum\\Netwok\\MSTCP and >HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0002 >HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0008 > > > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > > lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 > > eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > > ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > > Querying devices using internal function > > ifname: "0000" > > driver: "NetTrans\0002" > > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > > AdapterName: "" > > ifname: "0002" > > driver: "NetTrans\0008" > > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > > AdapterName: "MS$PPP" > > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > >bye > ago Thanks Alex. Heres HKLM\\Enum\\Netwok\\MSTCP and HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0002. I removed the PPP adapter so 0008 isn't there anymore. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP\] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP\\0000] "Class"="NetTrans" "Driver"="NetTrans\\0002" "MasterCopy"="Enum\\Network\\MSTCP\\0000" "DeviceDesc"="TCP/IP" "CompatibleIDs"="MSTCP" "Mfg"="Microsoft" "ConfigFlags"=hex:10,00,00,00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP\\0000\Bindings] "VSERVER\\0001"="" "VREDIR\\0000"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans] @="Network Protocol" "Installer"="netdi.dll" "Icon"="-6" "NoUseClass"="1" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002] "DriverDesc"="TCP/IP" "IPAddress"="10.252.20.185" "IPMask"="255.255.0.0" "DeviceVxDs"="vtdi.386,vip.386,vtcp.386,vdhcp.386,vnbt.386" "InstallVnbt"="0" "InfPath"="NETTRANS.INF" "DriverDate"=" 8-24-1996" "DevLoader"="*ndis" "NameServer1"="10.252.6.21" "NodeType"="8" "DefaultGateway"="10.252.0.1" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi] "DeviceID"="MSTCP" "MaxInstance"="8" "NdiInstaller"="mstcp.dll,TcpNdiProc" "HelpText"="TCP/IP is the protocol you use to connect to the Internet and wide-area networks." "InstallInf"="" "InfSection"="MSTCP.ndi" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Interfaces] "DefUpper"="netbios,tdi,winsock" "DefLower"="ndis2,ndis3,odi" "UpperRange"="netbios,tdi,winsock" "LowerRange"="ndis2,ndis3,odi" "Upper"="netbios,tdi,winsock" "Lower"="ndis2,ndis3,odi" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Install] @="MSTCP.Install" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Remove] @="MSTCP.Remove" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Params] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Params\None] "ParamDesc"="None" "default"="" "type"="keyonly" @="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\RenameBase] "file1"="C:\\WINDOWS\\winsock" "file2"="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\winsock" "file3"="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\win32s\\winsock" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Default] @="True" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\NDIS] "LogDriverName"="MSTCP" "MajorNdisVersion"=hex:03 "MinorNdisVersion"=hex:0a _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 09:48:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:48:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > > when I go back to work. > >Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > > > Anything suspicious there? > >Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* > >bye > ago > Hi Alex, Here's the output I got from running ls_netdex on windows 95: $ ls_netdev-w95 ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B Querying devices using ioctl lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 Querying devices using internal function ifname: "0000" driver: "NetTrans\0002" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "" ifname: "0002" driver: "NetTrans\0008" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "MS$PPP" lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 Thanks for your help. JS. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 9 09:56:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > If you don't like the color flashing, perhaps you could mitigate it by > running 2 instances of XWin on 2 different screen numbers? Argl. This is the _DISPLAY_ number. Display means port number, running XServer instance. Screen is just a number to let the XServer select the correct monitor/video card HTH ago From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 09:56:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > > when I go back to work. > >Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > > > Anything suspicious there? > >Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* > >bye > ago > I finally got XDM working on Windows 95 after changing my IP address to fixed. It seems it doesn't work with DHCP (on win 95), is that right? JS _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 10:31:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:31:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > > when I go back to work. > >Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > > > Anything suspicious there? > >Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* > >bye > ago > >NP: Blutengel - Wonderland >-- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 Hi Alex, Here's the output I got from ls_netdev, although what's confusing is I'm using a token ring network connection, not ethernet as the output seems to suggest: $ ls_netdev-w95 ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B Querying devices using ioctl lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 Querying devices using internal function ifname: "0000" driver: "NetTrans\0002" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "" ifname: "0002" driver: "NetTrans\0008" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "MS$PPP" lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 9 12:26:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > Here's the output I got from ls_netdev, although what's confusing is I'm > using a token ring network connection, not ethernet as the output seems to > suggest: The code for win95 can only distinguish between ppp and other network interfaces. > > $ ls_netdev-w95 > ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ > OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B > Querying devices using ioctl > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 That's the problem. Does the adapter get its IP via dhcp? Can you please send me a registry dump of HKLM\\Enum\\Netwok\\MSTCP and HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0002 HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0008 > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 > eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > Querying devices using internal function > ifname: "0000" > driver: "NetTrans\0002" > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > AdapterName: "" > ifname: "0002" > driver: "NetTrans\0008" > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > AdapterName: "MS$PPP" > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From davidf@sjsoft.com Mon Dec 9 12:35:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:35:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages In-Reply-To: <20021205030159.14401.qmail@operamail.com> References: <20021205030159.14401.qmail@operamail.com> Message-ID: <3DF47772.7080804@sjsoft.com> Hansom Young wrote: >Hi, > >Now you can download some prebuilt packages >from http://www.sourceforge.net/project/cygnome > Hi Hansom, Thanks for doing this! The URL should be http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/cygnome (missing s) > >Currently only core libraries and a brunch of applications are available >I've packaged all the core libraries into a single tarball cygnome-libs_1.4b1-x.tar.bz2 >The same to cygnome-apps. > >But lib*.a in cygnome-libs-devel were stupidly stripped by me. (I'm a really newbie,) >So at present you can not build GNOME application by yourself with it. > >This sunday I'll upload the other packages, >including almost the whole GNOME 1.4 desktop (except Nautilus) >and Sawfish, gnumeric etc. > I see if you have now done this... I downloaded it all and tried to get it working, a few questions/issues: startgnome seems to find its own display unless $display is set... which it tries to read from $serverargs (pointing to .xserverrc). So it is designed to start X itself (in contrast to KDE's startkde, which assumes X is started) I would like to get startx to start gnome, what should I put in .xinitrc (since startgnome doesn't work)? In any case, I start Gnome using startgnome and it brings up the nice splash screen, goes through everything, says "Starting Panel", then Done. But I get an Error: Application "panel" has crashed due to a fatal error (segmentation fault). This seems to be a problem with CORBA. The following error messages are printed out: 3 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 7493 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 16136 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 24205 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 3 [unknown (0x720)] sh 2108 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 14209 [unknown (0x720)] sh 2108 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 59792 [main] sh 2108 fhandler_console::dup: error opening console, Win32 error 5 3 [unknown (0x638)] xkbcomp 2092 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 20937 [unknown (0x638)] xkbcomp 2092 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root _IceTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to 1777 SESSION_MANAGER=local/auga:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1824 env: gnome-upgrade.py: No such file or directory /bin/bash: line 1: aumix-minimal: command not found can't load fixed font during initialisationxscreensaver-command: not found xscreensaver: not found ** WARNING **: goad_server_activate: goad.c 673: unexpected exception IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0: ** WARNING **: sysex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. ** WARNING **: usrex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. > >Note: In fact, nearly all the packages are built with the hints and patches distributed >by Steven O'Brien at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2. >All that I did are just building them, packaging them and uploading then there. >(That doesn't mean he is responsible for the bugs and defects in this port). > >Still is there no one would like to help me? > I presume reporting the problems I am having counts as help :-). Regards David From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 9 13:22:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:22:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002] > "DriverDesc"="TCP/IP" > "IPAddress"="10.252.20.185" This is after you changed the IP-Address to fixed? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 10 06:11:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > > I finally got XDM working on Windows 95 after changing my IP address to > fixed. It seems it doesn't work with DHCP (on win 95), is that right? It seems that the IP Address for DHCP configured inerfaces is not stored in the registry. The next days I'll powerup the win95 vmware and will check this. Until now we'll have to admit that XWin will not work with DHCP configured win95. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Dec 10 12:39:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? Message-ID: >Yep, There are lots of them :) > >I even wrote one :) >http://xlauncher.sf.net > >It's written in Delphi though, so can't be included in the cygwin >distribution :( > >Hopefully someone will start writing one in straight C/C++ calling the >Win32 >API, so it could go in cygwin, so people will stop writing their own in >non-free languages every month ;-) > >Tim. > >On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:48:49PM -0000, Vince Hoffman wrote: > > I seem to remember post about something similar, try searching the >archives > > for 'connection tool' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:lists.ASkwar@email-server.info] > > > Sent: 29 November 2002 14:26 > > > To: Cygwin XWin Mailingliste > > > Subject: Host Chooser Program? > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > Now that I've (kinda) got XWin running, I'm looking for a > > > program which > > > will let me type in the name of the host that I want to connect to. > > > > > > What I'm trying to do, is to have a shell script, which will > > > run some sort > > > of Windows GUI program where the user can enter something. > > > This "something" > > > should then be used as the parameter to the -query option. > > > Kinda like this: > > > > > > XWin.exe -query $(user_prompter) > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Alexander Skwar > > > -- Tim, This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot easier for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but it didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that needs more testing. The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with a fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just wondering if that was a win95 bug or not? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 11 01:55:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:55:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: > >J S wrote: > > > Yes. Sorry I should have given you the dump with DHCP. I will try and >get > > that for you tomorrow. > >You don't need to. I'll have to check some other sources of information >in windows. The registry is only for static values. The dynamic values >as used with DHCP are not reflected in the registry and the current >algorithm has no access to the current IP address. > >bye > ago >-- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 Alex, With DHCP, you can actually get the IP address by looking in: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP] "Version"=hex:02,00,00,00 "PopupFlag"=hex:01,00,00,00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP\DhcpInfo00] "DhcpIndex"=dword:00000000 "DhcpIPAddress"=hex:0a,fc,14,b9 "DhcpSubnetMask"=hex:ff,ff,00,00 "DhcpServer"=hex:0a,fc,06,26 "DhcpDesiredIPAddress"=hex:0a,fc,14,b9 "Lease"=hex:80,69,16,00 "LeaseObtainedTime"=hex:cd,f7,25,2b "T1"=hex:8d,2c,31,2b "T2"=hex:cd,e5,37,2b "LeaseTerminatesTime"=hex:4d,61,3c,2b "HardwareType"=hex:06 "HardwareAddress"=hex:00,20,35,f0,80,b7 "AddressType"=dword:00000000 "OptionInfo"=hex:2c,08,0a,fc,06,15,a1,02,62,5e,2e,01,08,0f,09,75,6b,2e,62,61,\ 2e,63,6f,6d,06,0c,0a,fc,06,26,a1,02,03,02,a1,02,03,03,03,04,0a,fc,00,01,ff,\ 00 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Wed Dec 11 02:59:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:59:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021210203604.GA28501@ripcord.co.nz> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:18:00PM +0000, J S wrote: > Tim, > > This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot easier > for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but it > didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that needs > more testing. > > The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with a > fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just wondering > if that was a win95 bug or not? > > Thanks, > > JS. It looks OK, its a pity it isn't in a free C/C++ though :) Under the "other" tab, there is an area down the bottom which may display an IP address. Does it? If not, then the xlauncher program hasn't worked out what the IP of the machine is, and won't pass the -from parameter, so will leave it to cygwin to work it out. Does X start when you use XWin -query yourhostIPhere -from yourdesktopIPhere ? (from a bash prompt, with the path set correctly ;) ) Cheers, Tim. From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 11 04:38:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 04:38:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? Message-ID: > >On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:18:00PM +0000, J S wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot >easier > > for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but >it > > didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that >needs > > more testing. > > > > The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with >a > > fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just >wondering > > if that was a win95 bug or not? > > > > Thanks, > > > > JS. > >It looks OK, its a pity it isn't in a free C/C++ though :) > >Under the "other" tab, there is an area down the bottom which may >display an IP address. Does it? Yes it does. >If not, then the xlauncher program hasn't worked out what the IP of the >machine is, and won't pass the -from parameter, so will leave it to >cygwin to work it out. > >Does X start when you use XWin -query yourhostIPhere -from >yourdesktopIPhere >? (from a bash prompt, with the path set correctly ;) ) It does if I have a fixed IP address. > >Cheers, > >Tim. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From ian.harcombe@espritsoutron.com Wed Dec 11 04:47:00 2002 From: ian.harcombe@espritsoutron.com (Ian Harcombe) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 04:47:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages Message-ID: Just to voice a quick vote of thanks to all involved in getting this working. I am now happily running Gnome 1.4 (with all the extra bits n bobs you've provided) under Cygwin on a Windows XP Professional laptop as my normal development environment at work. It is clean and responsive, and now that sawfish is running properly, very pretty indeed. The only downside seems to be that I occasionally seem to get left with dead processes left in the Windows Task Manager display which aren't recognised as running by Cygwin ps (ie I am currently showing one gnome-session process in ps, but four according to Windows). Trivial really. -- Ian Harcombe From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 11 06:08:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 06:08:00 -0000 Subject: Can't login to Solaris 8 machines: "display foo:0 could not be initialized, server may be grabbed." Message-ID: <1039610312.3df731c8db780@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hello! When I try to login with XDMCP to one of our Solaris 8 machines, I get the following message in /var/dt/Xerrors on the Solaris server: error (pid 15092): display fp2367:0 could not be initialized, server may be grabbed. Any ideas about what might be wrong? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 11 16:48:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:48:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> Message-ID: <1039610826.3df733ca6b04e@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hi again! xkbcomp.exe still segfaults for me. Any ideas about how I might further debug the problem, or which additional information I should supply, so that you might be able to help me find the problem? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 12 00:07:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:07:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1039610826.3df733ca6b04e@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Message-ID: > xkbcomp.exe still segfaults for me. Any ideas about how I might further > debug the problem, Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Thu Dec 12 00:32:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:32:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021212004516.GB14082@ripcord.co.nz> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:48:04AM +0000, J S wrote: > > > >On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:18:00PM +0000, J S wrote: > > > >> Tim, > >> > >> This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot > >easier > >> for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but > >it > >> didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that > >needs > >> more testing. > >> > >> The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with > >a > >> fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just > >wondering > >> if that was a win95 bug or not? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> JS. > > > >It looks OK, its a pity it isn't in a free C/C++ though :) > > > >Under the "other" tab, there is an area down the bottom which may > >display an IP address. Does it? > > Yes it does. > > >If not, then the xlauncher program hasn't worked out what the IP of the > >machine is, and won't pass the -from parameter, so will leave it to > >cygwin to work it out. > > > >Does X start when you use XWin -query yourhostIPhere -from > >yourdesktopIPhere > >? (from a bash prompt, with the path set correctly ;) ) > > It does if I have a fixed IP address. Hmm, weird. Haven't had that combination before :) Could you please post me (not the list) your Xwin.log, and your launchx.bat file that XLauncher creates from one of these 95 machines, after running XLauncher on it? Hopefully that will turn up something. Cheers, Tim. From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 01:43:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:43:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> Kensuke, Harold, I was just wondering whether it would be possible to create a test build of the X server with this multi-window mode. Obviously there are issues with it but I presume they only come up in multi-window mode? It would just be really nice to see it beginning to work - this is something lots of people have wanted for a long time, congratulations for getting it going! David Harold L Hunt II wrote: > JS, > > Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really > have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode > is to create a Windows-window for each top-level X Window, rather than > creating one huge window for your entire X desktop. > > Harold > > J S wrote: > >> >> >>> Kensuke, >>> >>> The new patch is an architectual improvement. >>> >>> However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it >>> jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that >>> I took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw >>> up. :) >>> >>> I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue >>> of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >>> repeatedly. >>> >>> My log file from this session is on the web: >>> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) >>> >>> The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >>> >>>> Harold, >>>> >>>> It remains only for debugging. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even >>>>> thought it is >>>>> not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or >>>>> did I >>>>> have something go wrong with my patching? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window >>>> manager. >>>> >>>> Kensuke Matsuzaki >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought >> that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have >> windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up >> with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows >> manager? >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> > From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 03:41:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF848E9.2020508@sjsoft.com> Ian Harcombe wrote: >Just to voice a quick vote of thanks to all involved in getting this >working. > >I am now happily running Gnome 1.4 (with all the extra bits n bobs >you've provided) under Cygwin on a Windows XP Professional laptop as my >normal development environment at work. It is clean and responsive, and >now that sawfish is running properly, very pretty indeed. > > My vote of thanks too! But I can't get it to work, would appreciate any comments. It seems to be a problem with the goad_server which seems to be something to do with CORBA/COMM. Is there any way I can debug it? I have attached the startup log below. BTW, I installed it using the cygwin setup utility, not the installpkg script, could this be a problem? Thanks David starting gnome on display :0 _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root _IceTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to 1777 SESSION_MANAGER=local/auga:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1868 env: gnome-upgrade.py: No such file or directory /bin/bash: line 1: aumix-minimal: command not found can't load fixed font during initialisationxscreensaver-command: not found xscreensaver: not found Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1 ** WARNING **: goad_server_activate: goad.c 673: unexpected exception IDL:CORBA/ COMM_FAILURE:1.0: ** WARNING **: sysex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. ** WARNING **: usrex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. From john@io.com Thu Dec 12 04:10:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> Message-ID: <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> * David Fraser [2002-12-12 10:03:53 +0200]: > Kensuke, Harold, > I was just wondering whether it would be possible to create a test build > of the X server with this multi-window > mode. Obviously there are issues with it but I presume they only come up > in multi-window mode? > It would just be really nice to see it beginning to work - this is > something lots of people have wanted for a long time, > congratulations for getting it going! I wholeheartedly second that; either a test build, or perhaps some instructions on how to take the patch(es) you supplied and build a modified version using the existing Cygwin tools. Is this just a matter of building a modified version of the XWin.exe binary and replacing my current "XWin -rootless" line with "XWin2 -multiwindow" in the startx script? I think a lot of us non-programmers would be willing to become beta testers and/or bug reporters if we could get our foot in the door. :) Also, someone else suggested making the actual Cygwin/XFree86 "control window" (is that the right term?) minimize to the system tray rather than the taskbar; I think this would be a good idea too... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm no expert. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Fraser Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:29 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages Ian Harcombe wrote: >Just to voice a quick vote of thanks to all involved in getting this >working. > >I am now happily running Gnome 1.4 (with all the extra bits n bobs >you've provided) under Cygwin on a Windows XP Professional laptop as my >normal development environment at work. It is clean and responsive, and >now that sawfish is running properly, very pretty indeed. > > My vote of thanks too! But I can't get it to work, would appreciate any comments. It seems to be a problem with the goad_server which seems to be something to do with CORBA/COMM. Is there any way I can debug it? I have attached the startup log below. BTW, I installed it using the cygwin setup utility, not the installpkg script, could this be a problem? Thanks David starting gnome on display :0 _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root _IceTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to 1777 SESSION_MANAGER=local/auga:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1868 env: gnome-upgrade.py: No such file or directory /bin/bash: line 1: aumix-minimal: command not found can't load fixed font during initialisationxscreensaver-command: not found xscreensaver: not found Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1 ** WARNING **: goad_server_activate: goad.c 673: unexpected exception IDL:CORBA/ COMM_FAILURE:1.0: ** WARNING **: sysex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. ** WARNING **: usrex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 12 04:43:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:43:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: > I wholeheartedly second that; either a test build, or perhaps some > instructions on how to take the patch(es) you supplied and build a > modified version using the existing Cygwin tools. To build XWin.exe, please read http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html The patch can be applied as shown in the following command $pwd ~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin $bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 $patch -p1 < rootless.patch I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, but is it right? > Is this just a matter > of building a modified version of the XWin.exe binary and replacing my > current "XWin -rootless" line with "XWin2 -multiwindow" in the startx > script? Yes. Kensuke Matsuzaki From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 12 04:57:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:57:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: <20021212004516.GB14082@ripcord.co.nz> Message-ID: > Hmm, weird. Haven't had that combination before :) > > Could you please post me (not the list) your Xwin.log, and your > launchx.bat file that XLauncher creates from one of these 95 machines, > after running XLauncher on it? Hopefully that will turn up something. This is not a problem of XLauncher nor a direct problem of XWin. The cygwin layer can not handle the dynamic IP address and does always report 0.0.0.0 as address for the network interface. Even the -from parameter will not help here. The XServer has no possibility to get the local IP address to send it to the xdmcp server. To add this to the cygwin dll is with high priority on my todo list. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Thu Dec 12 04:58:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:58:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF88478.8090606@email-server.info> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. Ok. Should I download the X420src- .tgz files from ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/source/ and go on from there, or how should I proceed? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Thu Dec 12 05:07:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:07:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: <20021207074333.GA8825@ripcord.co.nz> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> <20021207074333.GA8825@ripcord.co.nz> Message-ID: <3DF8878E.6070701@email-server.info> Tim Thomson wrote: > Yep, There are lots of them :) > > I even wrote one :) In the meantime, I've also written one. Mine is written in Python with wxPython. You can get it from http://message-center.info/stuff/xhc/ Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 12 05:10:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:10:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF88478.8090606@email-server.info> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. > > Ok. Should I download the X420src- .tgz files from > ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/source/ and go on from there, or > how should I proceed? I think the contributor's guide covers this topic very well http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ HTH ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From john@io.com Thu Dec 12 05:39:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:39:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> * Kensuke Matsuzaki [2002-12-12 21:10:54 +0900]: > To build XWin.exe, please read >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html I should have figured that out without being told, sorry. I'm now getting the source via CVS. There sure is a lot of it; I hope x86 is still a standard architecture when it finishes. :p > The patch can be applied as shown in the following command > $pwd > ~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin > $bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 > $patch -p1 < rootless.patch > > I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, > but is it right? I don't understand this question. If you're asking if a change you made causes your instructions to break, I'll let you know when I try them. When I get a modified version of XWin.exe out of this process, can other people just download it and drop it in to their own Cygwin installs? (presumably they would back up their current XWin.exe first) Let me know...if this is the case, I'll put my modified version online somewhere for people who don't have the patience/bandwidth/disk space to build their own. After the patch is applied, do I just go back up to the root directory and run "make"? Then find the built XWin.exe and copy it over to the directory where the current one lives? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rudy@viper.iasi.rdsnet.ro Thu Dec 12 06:06:00 2002 From: rudy@viper.iasi.rdsnet.ro (Corneliu Rudeanu) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 06:06:00 -0000 Subject: X server window size Message-ID: With the current version of XFree86 (XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2; XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-16) I am getting the following: I start a (xdm based) session on another (linux) X server, using a bat which does: start /B XWin -indirect linux This creates a window as large as if being maximized. Ok. If either I click on "Quit" button (from the xdm window) or choose a host, login and then logout from it, the Cygwin/XFree86 window is closed and opened again but shrinked by some 4-5 pixels in width and about the height of the taskbar in height. Repeating the procedure (clicking Quit or along several sessions on the linux machine) the Cygwin/XFree86 window gets smaller and smaller. This behaviour dissapears when I specify -screen 0 1152 844 to XWin command. Is this a known issue? I unsuccessfuly searched in the archives for it. Am I missing something? Another problem (which I did not noticed in *some* previous version) was redraw not being performed properly for eg when moving windows. I work only on another computer (linux) with DISPLAY set to Cygwin machine. Sorry I can't be more specific. Best regards, Corneliu Rudeanu From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 12 06:59:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (zakki@peppermint.jp) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 06:59:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> Message-ID: -multiwindow is not stable, so I thought binary is not needed. XWin.exe is here. http://peppermint.jp/products/asis/XWin.2002_12_09.exe.bz2 And libfreetype 2.1.1 is here. http://peppermint.jp/temp/libfreetype.tar.bz2 Kensuke Matsuzaki From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 12 08:20:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:20:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? Message-ID: > > Hmm, weird. Haven't had that combination before :) > > > > Could you please post me (not the list) your Xwin.log, and your > > launchx.bat file that XLauncher creates from one of these 95 machines, > > after running XLauncher on it? Hopefully that will turn up something. > >This is not a problem of XLauncher nor a direct problem of XWin. The cygwin >layer can not handle the dynamic IP address and does always report 0.0.0.0 >as address for the network interface. Even the -from parameter will not >help >here. The XServer has no possibility to get the local IP address to send it >to the xdmcp server. > >To add this to the cygwin dll is with high priority on my todo list. > > >bye > ago Alex, this problem with Xlauncher happened when I used a fixed IP address, (not DHCP). I'll check the xwin.log and post it tomorrow 'cos I'm working from home today. Cheers, JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 08:22:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:22:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode In-Reply-To: References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> Message-ID: <3DF8A381.4060300@sjsoft.com> zakki@peppermint.jp wrote: >-multiwindow is not stable, so I thought binary is not needed. > >XWin.exe is here. >http://peppermint.jp/products/asis/XWin.2002_12_09.exe.bz2 > >And libfreetype 2.1.1 is here. >http://peppermint.jp/temp/libfreetype.tar.bz2 > >Kensuke Matsuzaki > > > Thank you Kensuke! I have konsole running by itself in a separate window! This is great! Much appreciated! By the way I have no stability issues other than moving windows as Harold mentioned. I can resize a window as long as I don't move it. David -=-=- ... Micro$oft is not an answer. It is a question. The answer is 'no'. * TagZilla 0.030 From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 08:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:24:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: <3DF8B74D.1030801@msu.edu> Kensuke, Did you ever look into the bug I reported where a dragged window just keeps on repeating the dragging and never stops moving? Seems to be a problem with the message queue not being cleared properly. My email is in the list archives if you missed it. Harold Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >> I wholeheartedly second that; either a test build, or perhaps some >>instructions on how to take the patch(es) you supplied and build a >>modified version using the existing Cygwin tools. > > To build XWin.exe, please read http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > The patch can be applied as shown in the following command > $pwd > ~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin > $bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 > $patch -p1 < rootless.patch > > I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, > but is it right? > > >>Is this just a matter >>of building a modified version of the XWin.exe binary and replacing my >>current "XWin -rootless" line with "XWin2 -multiwindow" in the startx >>script? > > Yes. > > Kensuke Matsuzaki > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 08:25:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:25:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> Message-ID: <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> David, I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke sent me didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a window if you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he never responded. I didn't want to bug him about it for awhile in case he had seen it... but it seems now that he never saw it. I will release a test version once there are no obvious bugs. I mean, are we really going to benefit from 100 people saying ``multiwindow mode doesn't work, it keeps doing foo''? I don't think so :) Harold David Fraser wrote: > Kensuke, Harold, > I was just wondering whether it would be possible to create a test build > of the X server with this multi-window > mode. Obviously there are issues with it but I presume they only come up > in multi-window mode? > It would just be really nice to see it beginning to work - this is > something lots of people have wanted for a long time, > congratulations for getting it going! > > David > > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >> JS, >> >> Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really >> have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode >> is to create a Windows-window for each top-level X Window, rather than >> creating one huge window for your entire X desktop. >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> Kensuke, >>>> >>>> The new patch is an architectual improvement. >>>> >>>> However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it >>>> jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that >>>> I took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw >>>> up. :) >>>> >>>> I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue >>>> of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >>>> repeatedly. >>>> >>>> My log file from this session is on the web: >>>> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) >>>> >>>> The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. >>>> >>>> Harold >>>> >>>> Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >>>> >>>>> Harold, >>>>> >>>>> It remains only for debugging. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even >>>>>> thought it is >>>>>> not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or >>>>>> did I >>>>>> have something go wrong with my patching? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window >>>>> manager. >>>>> >>>>> Kensuke Matsuzaki >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought >>> that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have >>> windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up >>> with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows >>> manager? >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >>> >> > > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 08:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:26:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> Message-ID: <3DF8B839.8030709@msu.edu> Please do not release your own test version. As I said, I am waiting for the repeating window movement to be looked into and possibly fixed. I do not wish to get lots of duplicate bug reports for such an obvious bug. If Kensuke says it doesn't happen with his version, then I will rebuild mine and try it again. Harold John Buttery wrote: > * Kensuke Matsuzaki [2002-12-12 21:10:54 +0900]: > >> To build XWin.exe, please read >>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > > I should have figured that out without being told, sorry. I'm now > getting the source via CVS. There sure is a lot of it; I hope x86 is > still a standard architecture when it finishes. :p > > >> The patch can be applied as shown in the following command >>$pwd >>~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin >>$bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 >>$patch -p1 < rootless.patch >> >> I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, >>but is it right? > > > I don't understand this question. If you're asking if a change you > made causes your instructions to break, I'll let you know when I try > them. > > When I get a modified version of XWin.exe out of this process, can > other people just download it and drop it in to their own Cygwin > installs? (presumably they would back up their current XWin.exe first) > Let me know...if this is the case, I'll put my modified version online > somewhere for people who don't have the patience/bandwidth/disk space to > build their own. > > After the patch is applied, do I just go back up to the root directory > and run "make"? Then find the built XWin.exe and copy it over to the > directory where the current one lives? > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 08:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: X server window size References: Message-ID: <3DF8B87A.3000509@msu.edu> Corneliu, Yes, I have seen a similar problem before. I have not yet had a chance to look into it and not that many people are complaining about it :) Harold Corneliu Rudeanu wrote: > With the current version of XFree86 (XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2; > XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-16) I am getting the following: > > I start a (xdm based) session on another (linux) X server, using a bat > which does: > > start /B XWin -indirect linux > > This creates a window as large as if being maximized. Ok. If either I > click on "Quit" button (from the xdm window) or choose a host, login and > then logout from it, the Cygwin/XFree86 window is closed and opened again > but shrinked by some 4-5 pixels in width and about the height of the > taskbar in height. Repeating the procedure (clicking Quit or along > several sessions on the linux machine) the Cygwin/XFree86 window gets > smaller and smaller. > > This behaviour dissapears when I specify > -screen 0 1152 844 > to XWin command. Is this a known issue? I unsuccessfuly searched in the > archives for it. Am I missing something? > > Another problem (which I did not noticed in *some* previous version) was > redraw not being performed properly for eg when moving windows. I work > only on another computer (linux) with DISPLAY set to Cygwin machine. Sorry > I can't be more specific. > > Best regards, > Corneliu Rudeanu > From syjef@mail.mdanderson.org Thu Dec 12 08:55:00 2002 From: syjef@mail.mdanderson.org (Jonathan Fosburgh) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:55:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:22:45 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > David, > > I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke sent me > didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a window if > you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he never responded. > I didn't want to bug him about it for awhile in case he had seen it... > but it seems now that he never saw it. > > I will release a test version once there are no obvious bugs. I mean, are > we really going to benefit from 100 people saying ``multiwindow mode doesn't > work, it keeps doing foo''? I don't think so :) > I'll add to the description of the bug. If I try to launch any application (xterm, for instance) the window just slowly moves diagonally across the screen regardless of if I try to move it. Eventually it disappears, never to be seen again. If I intercept it and move it, it behanves as you reported. -- Jonathan Fosburgh Software Systems Specialist III AIX/SAN Administrator University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX From john@io.com Thu Dec 12 10:33:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:33:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF8B839.8030709@msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> <3DF8B839.8030709@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021212163603.GC4473@io.com> * Harold L Hunt II [2002-12-12 11:24:25 -0500]: > Please do not release your own test version. As I said, I am waiting > for the repeating window movement to be looked into and possibly fixed. > I do not wish to get lots of duplicate bug reports for such an obvious > bug. If Kensuke says it doesn't happen with his version, then I will > rebuild mine and try it again. OK; sorry, I guess I got a little ahead of myself. I'm one of those people that's been waiting for a Windows-as-window-manager X server for a long time, so I was excited. :) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 12 10:51:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Matsuzaki Kensuke) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:51:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF8B74D.1030801@msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: Harold, I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. Maximizing a window never stop too. Matsuzaki Kensuke From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 11:29:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:29:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode Message-ID: <200212121833.gBCIXHe84026@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Thu Dec 12 12:15:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:15:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <200212121833.gBCIXHe84026@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <001c01c2a20f$7d0d2da0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> This may be obvious, but the difference between the two is that Windows sends you a bunch of messages when you're dragging the window when fulldrag is in effect... So it might be some message handler repositioning the window during one of those notifications... Maybe a WM_SIZE or WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING... Anyhow, I think running spy and just looking in on the stream of messages that a window doing fulldrag receives could be a way to figure out which message. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:33 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Rootless mode Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 12:16:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:16:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF8E2EC.1040900@sjsoft.com> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > David, > > I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke > sent me didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a > window if you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he > never responded. I didn't want to bug him about it for awhile in case > he had seen it... but it seems now that he never saw it. > > I will release a test version once there are no obvious bugs. I mean, > are we really going to benefit from 100 people saying ``multiwindow > mode doesn't work, it keeps doing foo''? I don't think so :) > > Harold > OK, I see the reason now, thanks for explaining. In the mean time has been quite fun getting it to run :-) I'm quite happy with not moving windows as long as I know that it's to be avoided. David -- Micro$oft is not an answer. It is a question. The answer is 'no'. From mk329@cam.ac.uk Thu Dec 12 13:07:00 2002 From: mk329@cam.ac.uk (Milos Komarcevic) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode -multiwindow bug Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021212201003.00a7bd50@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk> I was able to reproduce the -multiwindow moving bug on two Win2k machines, and "Show window contents while dragging" does not seem to have any effect on those machines. (I already had it switched off) Neither does disabling ActiveDesktop help. From d.dorst@hccnet.nl Thu Dec 12 13:41:00 2002 From: d.dorst@hccnet.nl (d. dorst) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:41:00 -0000 Subject: Installation Message-ID: <000501c2a21b$3ae07340$063dfb3e@k5p2r2> I have got cygwin on a cd-rom because I use a 56K modem. I have read the FAQ s that are on the cd and tried every solution that is there but it will not install. Every time when the packeges should come in the sceen it says that there is nothing availeble. Should I first unzip every folder that is on the cd or is there an other way of doing this. I know that I am a dumb Windows user but I can not get cygwin working this way. I would be gratefull for any help. Dirk Dorst From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Thu Dec 12 14:52:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:52:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager Message-ID: <3DF8D34C.5E23F105@fi.uba.ar> Hello! For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my Windows system? I have any problems of fonts visualisation... How I can configure X so that use the server of fonts of the remote system? Thanks! Mart??n. From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Dec 12 14:53:00 2002 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:53:00 -0000 Subject: Installation In-Reply-To: <000501c2a21b$3ae07340$063dfb3e@k5p2r2> Message-ID: Wrong list, redirected. Igor On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, d. dorst wrote: > I have got cygwin on a cd-rom because I use a 56K modem. > I have read the FAQ s that are on the cd and tried every solution that is > there but it will not install. > Every time when the packeges should come in the sceen it says that there is > nothing availeble. > Should I first unzip every folder that is on the cd or is there an other way > of doing this. > I know that I am a dumb Windows user but I can not get cygwin working this > way. > I would be gratefull for any help. > > Dirk Dorst -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 14:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:55:00 -0000 Subject: Email status flags In-Reply-To: <20021212163603.GC4473@io.com> Message-ID: John, Whatever you are doing to your email to cause it to be flagged as important and needing followup, please stop. I sort the Cygwin/XFree86 email by the importance flag and I have a list of emails that I need to follow up on for the Cygwin/XFree86 project. Some flags in your email are causing your emails to appear at the top of my email list, where they do not belong because I have not flagged them for followup. Now, this is probably just some default setting in your mail client, so please try to find a way to disable it. Or, if you like this setting, please refrain from using it when sending emails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. Thanks so much, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 15:25:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:25:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3DF8D34C.5E23F105@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: Martin, You cannot. Not yet, at least. We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is made. Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mart??n De Marchi Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Windows Manager Hello! For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my Windows system? I have any problems of fonts visualisation... How I can configure X so that use the server of fonts of the remote system? Thanks! Mart??n. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Dec 13 03:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:40:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <001c01c2a20f$7d0d2da0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> Message-ID: Looking at Kensuke's code, he uses an internal queue to store messages that need to be processed by child windows. For some reason this queue is not being properly reset when the messages are processed. Or, it could be as simple as returning the wrong value after processing these messages, causing Windows to send them again. Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Gervais Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Rootless mode This may be obvious, but the difference between the two is that Windows sends you a bunch of messages when you're dragging the window when fulldrag is in effect... So it might be some message handler repositioning the window during one of those notifications... Maybe a WM_SIZE or WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING... Anyhow, I think running spy and just looking in on the stream of messages that a window doing fulldrag receives could be a way to figure out which message. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:33 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Rootless mode Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Fri Dec 13 03:44:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:44:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003a01c2a235$ad150ec0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> Other than the WM_PAINT message, I don't think Windows ever sends the same message again. On a WM_PAINT, if you do not mark validate the region by calling BeginPaint and EndPaint and return from processing the WM_PAINT, you WILL receive a WM_PAINT again. On the other hand, if you call GetMessage without PM_REMOVE, the message retrieved is not removed from the queue. But if that were the case, the SAME message would keep being retrieved because the Windows message queue is more or less a FIFO structure. There might be some recursion at work here though, because if the child windows notify the parent and in response the parent posts or sends the same message again, things could get hairy. Probably not though, because they flood of messages does stop, right? I'm sure running Spy++ would yield interesting information. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:55 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Rootless mode Looking at Kensuke's code, he uses an internal queue to store messages that need to be processed by child windows. For some reason this queue is not being properly reset when the messages are processed. Or, it could be as simple as returning the wrong value after processing these messages, causing Windows to send them again. Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Gervais Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Rootless mode This may be obvious, but the difference between the two is that Windows sends you a bunch of messages when you're dragging the window when fulldrag is in effect... So it might be some message handler repositioning the window during one of those notifications... Maybe a WM_SIZE or WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING... Anyhow, I think running spy and just looking in on the stream of messages that a window doing fulldrag receives could be a way to figure out which message. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:33 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Rootless mode Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Fri Dec 13 03:53:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:53:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. I've now built a debug build of XFree86 4.2.0. How do I run xkbcomp.exe in gdb? I tried: gdb "/etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm" But when I then click on the run icon (or press R), I get the "Open File" dialog. When I run 'gdb /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe', I can push the Run icon just fine. I then see, that a window pops up but closes right away. Hmm.... I now tried to start 'gdb /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe'. Then I opened the Console and entered "run -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm". I now get this output in the Console window: Starting program: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0040f93e in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () Single stepping until exit from function _size_of_stack_reserve__, which has no line number information. 0x77fa4db3 in _libuser32_a_iname () (gdb) backtrace #0 0x77fa4db3 in _libuser32_a_iname () #1 0x0022efe8 in ?? () #2 0x0040d768 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #3 0x00404bf2 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #4 0x610072e8 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #5 0x610075cd in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #6 0x0044c6c2 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #7 0x0040103c in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #8 0x77e614c7 in _libuser32_a_iname () Should I do something else? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Fri Dec 13 05:21:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:21:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> References: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> Message-ID: <3DF9C803.7090800@email-server.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > I've now built a debug build of XFree86 4.2.0. How do I run xkbcomp.exe > in gdb? I tried: When I select /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe in the "Load New Executable" dialog I get when I press Run, gdb prints: This executable has no debugging information. Any ideas, about why this is so? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Fri Dec 13 09:27:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:27:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF9C803.7090800@email-server.info> References: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> <3DF9C803.7090800@email-server.info> Message-ID: <3DF9CA44.4000708@email-server.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > >>I've now built a debug build of XFree86 4.2.0. How do I run xkbcomp.exe >>in gdb? I tried: > > > When I select /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe in the "Load New Executable" > dialog I get when I press Run, gdb prints: Before you ask - before I did "make install", I did: mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11-from-Cygwin mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6-from-Cygwin So /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 have been created by "make install". Also, when I run the new /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbcomp.exe, I right away get a crash dialog from Windows. When I run /usr/X11R6-from-Cygwin/bin/xkbcomp.exe, I get this in the bash window: $ /usr/X11R6-from-Cygwin/bin/xkbcomp.exe Error: No input file specified Strange... Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From salah_z@yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 09:44:00 2002 From: salah_z@yahoo.com (Salah Zerrougui) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip Message-ID: <20021213132117.90754.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I download Xwinclip Test06 according to instructions, put start start xwinclip.exe in the batch file after start Xwin ...... Now when i select some text and cut it, i get SelectionNotify CompoundText in the Xwinclip (Dos windows) but when i go to Windows Notepad i cannot paste it (grayed). Did someone have the same problem or am'i missing something. Thanks in advance for any help, Salah. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 13 10:44:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:44:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> Message-ID: Alexander Skwar wrote: > I now tried to start 'gdb /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe'. Then I opened the > Console and entered "run -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 > /tmp/de.xkm". I now get this output in the Console window: > > Starting program: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de > /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x0040f93e in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () > Single stepping until exit from function _size_of_stack_reserve__, > which has no line number information. > 0x77fa4db3 in _libuser32_a_iname () the cygwin dll seems to produce some internal segfaults. Maybe this is one. If you get a segfault, just get the backtrace and then continue (c). If It was the one from xkbcomp the program will then fail to continue. You can also go to the xc/programs/xkbcomp and check if xkbcomp was compiled with the -g option. This turns on debug symbols. If it's not, you can simply add this option to CFLAGS and LDFALGS in the Makefile and run $ make clean includes depend xkbcomp in the directory to rebuild only xkbcomp with debug symbols. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From keith@keithtyler.com Fri Dec 13 11:52:00 2002 From: keith@keithtyler.com (Keith D. Tyler) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20021213132117.90754.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> from "Salah Zerrougui" at Dec 13, 2002 05:21:17 AM Message-ID: <200212131744.gBDHigx10758@shell.faradic.net> Salah Zerrougui was recently quoted as saying... > I download Xwinclip Test06 according to instructions, > put start start xwinclip.exe in the batch file after > start Xwin ...... > Now when i select some text and cut it, i get > SelectionNotify CompoundText in the Xwinclip (Dos > windows) but when i go to Windows Notepad i cannot > paste it (grayed). I believe when that happens, it also means that Xwinclip has died, and you need to restart it. I had this happen a lot to me and I reverted to Test05 release and have had less (but not zero) problems. I'm guessing international character sets can cause Xwinclip more headaches. ================================================================== Keith D. Tyler keith@keithtyler.com Federal Way, WA http://www.keithtyler.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ If Tyrrany and Oppresion come to this land, it will be under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. - James Madison, U.S. President 1809-1817 ================================================================== From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 13 12:04:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:04:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > > With DHCP, you can actually get the IP address by looking in: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP] > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP\DhcpInfo00] On my win95 host only the DhcpInfo and OptionInfo keys exist. But it seems that the IPAddress is stored in DhcpInfo. So i only have to find a mapping Interface->DhcpEntry and the switch that toggles the DHCP use in windows. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From ronykpa@yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 12:10:00 2002 From: ronykpa@yahoo.com (Ron Brinton) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:10:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan Message-ID: <20021213195149.27147.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> We have a problem with crashing machines. We are running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. With Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton scans comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems reboots. I have found that even if I open that file in Word, the systems reboots. We were also having the same problem with C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular install options this files does not exist. Have there been other reports of this problem? What install options install the C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group files? How can I avoid this problem? How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 I am running? Thanks -Ron ===== Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA God answers knee-mail __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From moreau.jerome@attbi.com Fri Dec 13 12:24:00 2002 From: moreau.jerome@attbi.com (Jerome Moreau) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:24:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan References: <20021213195149.27147.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02c301c2a2e2$c1090e60$6301a8c0@Nukki> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. With > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton scans > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > reboots. I have found that even if I open that file in > Word, the systems reboots. > > We were also having the same problem with > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > install options this files does not exist. > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > What install options install the > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group files? > How can I avoid this problem? > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 I am > running? > > Thanks -Ron > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From moreau.jerome@attbi.com Fri Dec 13 12:42:00 2002 From: moreau.jerome@attbi.com (Jerome Moreau) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:42:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan References: <20021213195149.27147.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02ec01c2a2e3$9cac2b00$6301a8c0@Nukki> Hi, I have and XP system and just tried editing the group file you mention with Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on my machine. Scanning it with Norton also works... You can tell what versions you have of cygwin by running : cygcheck -c Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I meant to reply only to Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. Jerome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. With > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton scans > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > reboots. I have found that even if I open that file in > Word, the systems reboots. > > We were also having the same problem with > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > install options this files does not exist. > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > What install options install the > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group files? > How can I avoid this problem? > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 I am > running? > > Thanks -Ron > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From ronykpa@yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 13:14:00 2002 From: ronykpa@yahoo.com (Ron Brinton) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan In-Reply-To: <02ec01c2a2e3$9cac2b00$6301a8c0@Nukki> Message-ID: <20021213202401.96566.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Jerome, Thanks for the reply. Just verifing that you had cygwin running durring your test. When I say running, I had a server_start script that gives me a window to log into my unix box just like I was doing so from the unix keyboard... starts Solaris... --- Jerome Moreau wrote: > Hi, > > I have and XP system and just tried editing the > group file you mention with > Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on > my machine. Scanning it > with Norton also works... You can tell what versions > you have of cygwin by > running : > > cygcheck -c > > Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I > meant to reply only to > Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. > > Jerome. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Brinton" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM > Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > > > > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. > With > > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton > scans > > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > > reboots. I have found that even if I open that > file in > > Word, the systems reboots. > > > > We were also having the same problem with > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > > install options this files does not exist. > > > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > > What install options install the > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group > files? > > How can I avoid this problem? > > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 > I am > > running? > > > > Thanks -Ron > > > > > > ===== > > Ronald S. Brinton York International > Corp. > > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA > 17405-1592 USA > > God answers knee-mail > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > ===== Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA God answers knee-mail __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From moreau.jerome@attbi.com Sat Dec 14 12:23:00 2002 From: moreau.jerome@attbi.com (Jerome Moreau) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 12:23:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan References: <20021213202401.96566.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <038601c2a2e7$ef740b60$6301a8c0@Nukki> Roger, Yes I had Cygwin/XFree86 running the port of KDE 2 actually, with Konqueror running on it. Opening / scanning the file does cause any problem on my system, but then again it is XP and not W2K. Might it not be an issue of your group file being corrupted ? Does anyone else know of an issue with W2K ? Jerome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: crashed with Norton Scan > Jerome, > > Thanks for the reply. > > Just verifing that you had cygwin running durring your > test. When I say running, I had a server_start script > that gives me a window to log into my unix box just > like I was doing so from the unix keyboard... starts > Solaris... > > > > > --- Jerome Moreau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have and XP system and just tried editing the > > group file you mention with > > Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on > > my machine. Scanning it > > with Norton also works... You can tell what versions > > you have of cygwin by > > running : > > > > cygcheck -c > > > > Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I > > meant to reply only to > > Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. > > > > Jerome. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron Brinton" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM > > Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > > > > > > > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > > > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. > > With > > > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton > > scans > > > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > > > reboots. I have found that even if I open that > > file in > > > Word, the systems reboots. > > > > > > We were also having the same problem with > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > > > install options this files does not exist. > > > > > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > > > What install options install the > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group > > files? > > > How can I avoid this problem? > > > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 > > I am > > > running? > > > > > > Thanks -Ron > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Ronald S. Brinton York International > > Corp. > > > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > > > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > > > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA > > 17405-1592 USA > > > God answers knee-mail > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Mon Dec 16 07:17:00 2002 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:17:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager Message-ID: I believe Harold was referring to the first part of your question, only. To use a remote font server, use -fp. An example is in the FAQ (though not obvious to find) - http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts Cary "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message news:... > Martin, > > You cannot. Not yet, at least. > > We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list > or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is > made. > > Harold > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mart?n De Marchi > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Windows Manager > > > Hello! > > For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows > manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my > Windows system? > I have any problems of fonts visualisation... > How I can configure X so that use the server of > fonts of the remote system? > > Thanks! Mart?n. > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 16 09:12:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan In-Reply-To: <038601c2a2e7$ef740b60$6301a8c0@Nukki> Message-ID: Guys, If this discussion is not particular to XFree86, then please take the discussion to cygwin@cygwin.com, as there are many more people there that can help. Thanks, Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jerome Moreau Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:41 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: crashed with Norton Scan Roger, Yes I had Cygwin/XFree86 running the port of KDE 2 actually, with Konqueror running on it. Opening / scanning the file does cause any problem on my system, but then again it is XP and not W2K. Might it not be an issue of your group file being corrupted ? Does anyone else know of an issue with W2K ? Jerome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: crashed with Norton Scan > Jerome, > > Thanks for the reply. > > Just verifing that you had cygwin running durring your > test. When I say running, I had a server_start script > that gives me a window to log into my unix box just > like I was doing so from the unix keyboard... starts > Solaris... > > > > > --- Jerome Moreau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have and XP system and just tried editing the > > group file you mention with > > Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on > > my machine. Scanning it > > with Norton also works... You can tell what versions > > you have of cygwin by > > running : > > > > cygcheck -c > > > > Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I > > meant to reply only to > > Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. > > > > Jerome. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron Brinton" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM > > Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > > > > > > > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > > > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. > > With > > > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton > > scans > > > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > > > reboots. I have found that even if I open that > > file in > > > Word, the systems reboots. > > > > > > We were also having the same problem with > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > > > install options this files does not exist. > > > > > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > > > What install options install the > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group > > files? > > > How can I avoid this problem? > > > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 > > I am > > > running? > > > > > > Thanks -Ron > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Ronald S. Brinton York International > > Corp. > > > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > > > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > > > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA > > 17405-1592 USA > > > God answers knee-mail > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From salah_z@yahoo.com Mon Dec 16 10:55:00 2002 From: salah_z@yahoo.com (Salah Zerrougui) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:55:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip Message-ID: <20021216123106.14423.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Keith, Thanks for the tip, that did it, I guess Test06 is not stable yet. Salah. >Salah Zerrougui was recently quoted as saying... >> I download Xwinclip Test06 according to instructions, >> put start start xwinclip.exe in the batch file after >> start Xwin ...... >> Now when i select some text and cut it, i get >> SelectionNotify CompoundText in the Xwinclip (Dos >> windows) but when i go to Windows Notepad i cannot >> paste it (grayed). >I believe when that happens, it also means that Xwinclip has died, and you need to restart it. >I had this happen a lot to me and I reverted to Test05 release and have had less >(but not zero) problems. >I'm guessing international character sets can cause Xwinclip more headaches. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From john@io.com Mon Dec 16 11:28:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:28:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20021216123106.14423.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021216123106.14423.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021216171222.GC26618@io.com> * Salah Zerrougui [2002-12-16 04:31:06 -0800]: > Keith, > Thanks for the tip, that did it, > I guess Test06 is not stable yet. For the record, in case the xwinclip developers know something about the different Windows versions that would halp them debug, I've been using xwinclip in a NT 4.0 Workstation SP6a environment for a long time with zero, and I mean not even one, problems. Maybe there's something about that version it likes? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith@keithtyler.com Mon Dec 16 11:32:00 2002 From: keith@keithtyler.com (Keith D. Tyler) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:32:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20021216171222.GC26618@io.com> from "John Buttery" at Dec 16, 2002 11:12:22 AM Message-ID: <200212161855.gBGItqx11019@shell.faradic.net> John Buttery was recently quoted as saying... > For the record, in case the xwinclip developers know something about > the different Windows versions that would halp them debug, I've been > using xwinclip in a NT 4.0 Workstation SP6a environment for a long time > with zero, and I mean not even one, problems. Maybe there's something > about that version it likes?=20 I use Windows 2K SP2, but I heaviliy use a proprietary product which does not do normal cut and paste (from what I can tell, I don't know the details) because of the special conditions of the objects being handled. That is my prime suspect for my xwinclip problems. Kdt From jmb@ERC.MsState.Edu Mon Dec 16 13:14:00 2002 From: jmb@ERC.MsState.Edu (Matthew Bailey) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: ctrl-c with X11 fwd'ing Message-ID: I need to use X11 forwarding to help display my programs remotely from work. But, when using X11 forwarding, the ctrl-c command kills all ssh connections I have, and I must start my jobs all over again. Is there any way for me to get around this? Any config files I can edit to stop this from happening? Matthew _\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_ | James M. Bailey Phone: 662-325-9519 | | Systems and Network Administration | | jmb@ERC.MsState.Edu http://WWW.ERC.MsState.Edu/~jmb | | Mississippi State University ERC | |_________________________________________________________________________| From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Mon Dec 16 19:45:00 2002 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:45:00 -0000 Subject: ctrl-c with X11 fwd'ing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Matthew Bailey wrote: > I need to use X11 forwarding to help display my programs remotely from > work. But, when using X11 forwarding, the ctrl-c command kills all ssh > connections I have, and I must start my jobs all over again. > > Is there any way for me to get around this? Any config files I can edit > to stop this from happening? > > Matthew Try adding 'tty' to your CYGWIN environment variable. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Tue Dec 17 03:01:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 03:01:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager References: Message-ID: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> Thanks Harold and Cary for the answers. I have other questions... Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? I try it in both ways and the message "program: cannot connect to X sever" is showed... There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from a dos shell? Thanks! Mart??n. Cary Jamison wrote: > I believe Harold was referring to the first part of your question, only. > > To use a remote font server, use -fp. An example is in the FAQ (though not obvious to find) - > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts > > Cary > > "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message news:... > > Martin, > > > > You cannot. Not yet, at least. > > > > We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list > > or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is > > made. > > > > Harold > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mart??n De Marchi > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Windows Manager > > > > > > Hello! > > > > For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows > > manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my > > Windows system? > > I have any problems of fonts visualisation... > > How I can configure X so that use the server of > > fonts of the remote system? > > > > Thanks! Mart??n. > > > > From john@io.com Tue Dec 17 06:32:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <200212161855.gBGItqx11019@shell.faradic.net> References: <20021216171222.GC26618@io.com> <200212161855.gBGItqx11019@shell.faradic.net> Message-ID: <20021217034529.GB32038@io.com> * "Keith D. Tyler" [2002-12-16 13:55:52 -0500]: > ...but I heaviliy use a proprietary product which does not do normal > cut and paste (from what I can tell, I don't know the details) because > of the special conditions of the objects being handled. Yes, yes, we all use Windows, what's your point? :) (Sorry, couldn't resist. :p) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 17 13:59:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:59:00 -0000 Subject: ctrl-c with X11 fwd'ing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Matthew Bailey wrote: > I need to use X11 forwarding to help display my programs remotely from > work. But, when using X11 forwarding, the ctrl-c command kills all ssh > connections I have, and I must start my jobs all over again. > > Is there any way for me to get around this? Any config files I can edit > to stop this from happening? No. If you kill the ssh you also kill the connection. so don't kill ssh. From rbelenov@yandex.ru Tue Dec 17 20:01:00 2002 From: rbelenov@yandex.ru (Roman Belenov) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:01:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> =?iso-8859-1?q?(Mart=EDn?= De Marchi's message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:27:54 +0000") References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: Mart??n De Marchi writes: > Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) > or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? > I try it in both ways and the message "program: cannot connect to X sever" > is showed... > There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from > a dos shell? You should set DISPLAY environemnt variable to correct value, e.g. set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cmd.exe) or export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cygwin shell) -- With regards, Roman. From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Wed Dec 18 00:20:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:20:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Thanks Roman! Other question... There is any way to hide de X window ? That is, I want launch the remote program from a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want see only the windows of this program and not the X main window... Can I make this? Thanks for the help! Mart??n. Roman Belenov wrote: > Mart??n De Marchi writes: > > > Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) > > or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? > > I try it in both ways and the message "program: cannot connect to X sever" > > is showed... > > There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from > > a dos shell? > > You should set DISPLAY environemnt variable to correct value, e.g. > > set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cmd.exe) or > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cygwin shell) > > -- > With regards, Roman. From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Wed Dec 18 10:08:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:08:00 -0000 Subject: Errors running setup updater Message-ID: <00c901c2a64a$1c1600f0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> Hi, Running the updater as I do periodically, tonight it gave me a series of errors. It actually did this on two machines that I keep up to date. Any ideas why this is happening and how to fix it? LOG INCLUDED ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- 2002/12/17 22:50:46 Starting cygwin install, version 2.249.2.5 2002/12/17 22:50:46 Current Directory: D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop 2002/12/17 22:50:48 source: network install 2002/12/17 22:50:49 root: d:\cygwin binary system 2002/12/17 22:50:50 Selected local directory: D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin 2002/12/17 22:50:52 net: IE5 2002/12/17 22:50:54 site: ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin 2002/12/17 22:50:56 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:50:56 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:51:05 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gcc-mingw/gcc-mingw-20020817-3.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:18 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gdb/gdb-20021215-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:24 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ groff/groff-1.18.1-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:25 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ less/less-378-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:26 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ patch/patch-2.5.8-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:26 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ sysvinit/sysvinit-2.84-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:29 mbox yesno: Download Incomplete. Try again? 2002/12/17 22:51:31 Uninstalling cpio 2002/12/17 22:51:31 Uninstalling gcc-mingw 2002/12/17 22:51:31 running: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/preremove/gcc-mingw.sh 2002/12/17 22:51:31 Uninstalling gdb 2002/12/17 22:51:36 Uninstalling groff 2002/12/17 22:51:37 Uninstalling less 2002/12/17 22:51:37 Uninstalling patch 2002/12/17 22:51:38 Uninstalling sysvinit 2002/12/17 22:51:38 Uninstalling _update-info-dir 2002/12/17 22:51:38 mbox note: Can't open (null) for reading: No such file 2002/12/17 22:51:39 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gcc-mingw/gcc-mingw-20020817-3.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:39 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:51:41 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gdb/gdb-20021215-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:41 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:07 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ groff/groff-1.18.1-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:07 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:14 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ less/less-378-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:14 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:14 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ patch/patch-2.5.8-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:14 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:15 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ sysvinit/sysvinit-2.84-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:15 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:15 mbox note: Can't open (null) for reading: No such file 2002/12/17 22:52:20 running: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/gcc-mingw.sh 2002/12/17 22:52:24 running: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/sysvinit.sh 2002/12/17 22:52:26 mbox note: Installation incomplete. Check /setup.log.full for details 2002/12/17 22:52:29 Ending cygwin install From rbelenov@yandex.ru Wed Dec 18 12:22:00 2002 From: rbelenov@yandex.ru (Roman Belenov) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:22:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> =?iso-8859-1?q?(Mart=EDn?= De Marchi's message of "Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:12:24 +0000") References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: You need rootless mode (add -rootless to X server command-line). It's not perfect ("main window" still exist, though invisible; you still need to launch some X11 window manager to draw window borders); multiwindow mode should provide seamless X11/Windows integraton when it is finished. Mart??n De Marchi writes: > There is any way to hide de X window ? > That is, I want launch the remote program from > a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want > see only the windows of this program and not the > X main window... > Can I make this? -- With regards, Roman. From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 02:11:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:11:00 -0000 Subject: Failed to open input method Message-ID: Hi, Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the following messages after upgrading XFree86: $ xterm Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default Failed to open input method The Xwin.log says: winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(n ull)" Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to enable UK keyboards: set meta-flag on set convert-meta off set output-meta on but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's related to this problem. Thanks for any help JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From kostya@rice.edu Thu Dec 19 02:36:00 2002 From: kostya@rice.edu (Konstantin N. Kudin) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:36:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin.bat - errors after that Message-ID: Hello all, I've tried to upgrade Cygwin and started to run into problems when starting X via startxwin.bat Once it is started and I get the X windows and an xterm, I tried to open another xterm by typing >xterm & However, it gives the followling error message that I have not seen before: 7 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: child 1808(0x48C) died before initialization with status code 0x80 4484 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: *** child state child loading dlls xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable Earlier versions of Cygwin/Xfree worked fine. Thinking that the installation packages might have gotten corrupted, I did a clean download and reinstall. This did not change a thing, I still get the same error message. The system is W2k with SP2. It is weird that Cygwin did not create my user name during the initialization so I had to edit the /etc/passwd file to put it there. Also I changed my default shell to /usr/bin/tcsh. This is probably irrelevant however. The startx command still seem to work fine. I would like to pass some options to XWin as I did before with the startxwin.bat file, however, I am not sure how to do this via startx. Any suggestions/help is appreciated! Regards, Konstantin From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 03:46:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 03:46:00 -0000 Subject: failed to open input method Message-ID: Here's a bit more information.I noticed in the Xwin.log it said - (EE) Unable to locate/open config file InitOutput - Error reading config file Which config file is it referring to? Cheers, JS. u752359@A217447D ~ $ Xwin& [1] 1164 u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker& [2] 460 u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker fatal error: could not open display "" DISPL bash: DISPL: command not found [2]+ Exit 1 wmaker u752359@A217447D ~ $ DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0 u752359@A217447D ~ $ export DISPLAY u752359@A217447D ~ $ xhost+& [2] 1376 [2]+ Exit 127 xhost+ u752359@A217447D ~ $ xhost +& [2] 1544 u752359@A217447D ~ $ access control disabled, clients can connect from any host [2]+ Done xhost + u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker& [2] 528 u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker warning: could not open IM u752359@A217447D ~ $ xterm& [3] 1532 u752359@A217447D ~ $ Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default Failed to open input method u752359@A217447D ~ $ echo $LANG en_UK.ISO8859-1 u752359@A217447D ~ $ cat .Xdefaults *xnlLanguage: en_UK.ISO8859-1 *international: true u752359@A217447D ~ $ cat /tmp/xwin.log OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0 winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (EE) Unable to locate/open config file InitOutput - Error reading config file winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1152 h: 864 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 811 r 1146 l 0 b 811 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4584 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! (EE) Unable to locate/open config file InitOutput - Error reading config file winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1146 h: 811 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1140 h 786 r 1140 l 0 b 786 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4560 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 19 04:01:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:01:00 -0000 Subject: failed to open input method In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Here's a bit more information.I noticed in the Xwin.log it said - > (EE) Unable to locate/open config file > InitOutput - Error reading config file > > Which config file is it referring to? /etc/X11/XF86Config. But you only need it if you want to set an other keyboard layout. With the locale probleme I can't help. Maybe you can get more help on the XFree xpert mailing list bye ago NP: Silke Bischoff - The Crystal Lake -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 04:14:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails Message-ID: Hi, Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps saying: $ which /usr/bin/ls /usr/bin/ls: Command not found. My path appears to be OK: $ echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive /c/Program Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old cygwin I had: $ which usage: which [-a] command... $ ls -l which -rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which Any ideas what could be going wrong? JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Thu Dec 19 07:44:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:44:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021219120046.59093.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> correct syntax of which is "which ls", remember that the goal of which is to show the path of the command you give as a parameter. see "man which". --- J S a ??crit : > Hi, > > Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps > saying: > > $ which /usr/bin/ls > /usr/bin/ls: Command not found. > > > My path appears to be OK: > > $ echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv > e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive > /c/Program > Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv > e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 > > The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old > cygwin I > had: > > $ which > usage: which [-a] command... > > $ ls -l which > -rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which > > > Any ideas what could be going wrong? > > JS. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 07:49:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: Failed to open input method Message-ID: The "Could not init font path ..." error is in the FAQ: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-removing-font-path-element Don't know if the "Xlib locale" business is a side-effect of the font problem, or something else. >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Failed to open input method >Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:57:18 +0000 > >Hi, > >Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the following >messages after upgrading XFree86: > >$ xterm >Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged >Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C >Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default >Failed to open input method > >The Xwin.log says: > >winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 >bpp 24 >winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () >winScreenInit - returning >(EE) No primary keyboard configured >(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard >Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options >= "(n >ull)" >Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing >from >list! >Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing >from >list! >Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing >from >list! > >I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to >enable UK keyboards: > >set meta-flag on >set convert-meta off >set output-meta on > >but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's >related to this problem. > >Thanks for any help > >JS. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 07:49:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails Message-ID: Sorry I copied the wrong line. This is what I'm getting even after doing a reinstall: u752359@A217447D ~ $ which ls ls: Command not found. >correct syntax of which is "which ls", remember that the goal of which >is to show the path of the command you give as a parameter. > >see "man which". > --- J S a ??crit : > Hi, > > > > Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps > > saying: > > > > $ which /usr/bin/ls > > /usr/bin/ls: Command not found. > > > > > > My path appears to be OK: > > > > $ echo $PATH > > >/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv > > >e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive > > /c/Program > > >Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv > > e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 > > > > The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old > > cygwin I > > had: > > > > $ which > > usage: which [-a] command... > > > > $ ls -l which > > -rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which > > > > > > Any ideas what could be going wrong? > > > > JS. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > >===== >Sylvain Petreolle >spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net >Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html >ICQ #170597259 > >"Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. > >___________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! >Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 07:55:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:55:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails Message-ID: > >On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > Sorry I posted this to the wrong group. > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps saying: > > > > > >$ which /usr/bin/ls > > >/usr/bin/ls: Command not found. > > > > > > > > >My path appears to be OK: > > > > > >$ echo $PATH > > > >/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv > > > >e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive > > >/c/Program > > > >Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv > > >e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 > > > > > >The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old cygwin >I > > >had: > > > > > >$ which > > >usage: which [-a] command... > > > > > >$ ls -l which > > >-rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which > > > > > >Any ideas what could be going wrong? > > > > > >JS. > >Yes. You have ntsec on (it's on by default starting from 1.3.13, IIRC), >and the files in your /bin have the wrong permissions. Try > >$ chmod -R a+rx /bin > >and see if it solves the problem. You might also want to update your >passwd and group files - search this list for instructions. > Igor Igor, Thanks, that was it. I did chmod -R a+rx * and that fixed the Xfree problem I was having with 'failed to open input method' as well. I didn't realise the permissions had changed in Cygwin now, looks like I'll have to go back to the documentation and read up on it again. Thanks for your help. JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 09:29:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:29:00 -0000 Subject: Failed to open input method Message-ID: You know, after sending this reply I actually went and read the FAQ I was pointing you to. It looks to be quite out of date in that it refers to the Xinstall.sh script, which is not how XFree86 is installed any more. What you need to do is run the Cygwin Setup program, and on the 3rd screen, there is a pair of radio buttons under the label "Default Text File Type". Make sure "Unix" is picked, not "DOS". >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, vervoom@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Failed to open input method >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:44:35 -0500 > >The "Could not init font path ..." error is in the FAQ: > >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-removing-font-path-element > >Don't know if the "Xlib locale" business is a side-effect of the font >problem, or something else. > > >>From: "J S" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Failed to open input method >>Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:57:18 +0000 >> >>Hi, >> >>Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the >>following messages after upgrading XFree86: >> >>$ xterm >>Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged >>Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C >>Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default >>Failed to open input method >> >>The Xwin.log says: >> >>winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 >>bpp 24 >>winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () >>winScreenInit - returning >>(EE) No primary keyboard configured >>(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard >>Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options >>= "(n >>ull)" >>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, >>removing from >>list! >>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing >>from >>list! >>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, >>removing from >>list! >> >>I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to >>enable UK keyboards: >> >>set meta-flag on >>set convert-meta off >>set output-meta on >> >>but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's >>related to this problem. >> >>Thanks for any help >> >>JS. >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 09:31:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:31:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin.bat - errors after that Message-ID: >From: "Konstantin N. Kudin" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: startxwin.bat - errors after that >Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:22:04 -0600 (CST) > > Hello all, > > I've tried to upgrade Cygwin and started to run into problems when >starting X via startxwin.bat Once it is started and I get the X windows >and an xterm, I tried to open another xterm by typing >xterm & >However, it gives the followling error message that I have not seen >before: > > 7 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: child 1808(0x48C) died before >initialization with status code 0x80 > 4484 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: *** child state child loading >dlls >xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable > > Earlier versions of Cygwin/Xfree worked fine. Thinking that the >installation packages might have gotten corrupted, I did a clean download >and reinstall. This did not change a thing, I still get the same error >message. The system is W2k with SP2. It is weird that Cygwin did not >create my user name during the initialization so I had to edit the >/etc/passwd file to put it there. Also I changed my default shell to >/usr/bin/tcsh. This is probably irrelevant however. Just a shot in the dark here. Do a search on your system for the file "cygwin1.dll". Make sure there is only one, and that it's in the cygwin tree (c:\cygwin\usr\bin\cygwin1.dll by default). > The startx command still seem to work fine. I would like to pass some >options to XWin as I did before with the startxwin.bat file, however, I am >not sure how to do this via startx. > > Any suggestions/help is appreciated! > > Regards, > Konstantin Running "man startx" from a bash prompt tells you everything you could ever want to know about startx. In short, to pass parameters to the XServer, use this syntax "startx -- -serverparm". For example: startx -- -rootless tells startx to tell XWin to start in rootless mode. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Thu Dec 19 09:44:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? Thanks. Roman Belenov wrote: > You need rootless mode (add -rootless to X server command-line). It's > not perfect ("main window" still exist, though invisible; you still > need to launch some X11 window manager to draw window borders); > multiwindow mode should provide seamless X11/Windows integraton when > it is finished. > > Mart??n De Marchi writes: > > There is any way to hide de X window ? > > That is, I want launch the remote program from > > a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want > > see only the windows of this program and not the > > X main window... > > Can I make this? > > -- > With regards, Roman. From john@io.com Thu Dec 19 18:35:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:35:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <20021219173113.GB4230@io.com> * Mart?n De Marchi [2002-12-19 14:42:36 +0000]: > Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rrschulz@cris.com Fri Dec 20 08:38:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:38:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20021219093559.02ce4c30@pop3.cris.com> Martin, When I need to know about command-line options or environment variables that are not documented or for commands for which documentation is not available or at hand, I do something like this: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e "-rootless" -rootless EXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in pseudo-rootless mode. -rootless Here it appears both the strings from the argument processing code and the usage message are found. This, then, suggests that there is a help message available. This command: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e "^-" produces 123 lines, including this one: -help prints message with these options (Note that this particular program does not abide by the POSIX conventions stipulating the use of two hyphens for multiple-character option names.) However, you may be surprised at the result of invoking "XWin -help", which is to say you'll see no output (nor will the X server start up). The help output _is_ produced, but it goes into "/tmp/XWin.log" (!) I hope that helps, especially by adding to your repertoire of self-help techniques. Randall Schulz At 06:42 2002-12-19, Mart?n De Marchi wrote: >Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? > >Thanks. From booker@lava.net Fri Dec 20 16:22:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:22:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <008601c2a7d0$27cfc840$9c484140@lava.net> I'm trying to configure my xhost to be secure. Every time I start and x server (startxwin.bat) xhost is configured wide open: $ xhost access control disabled, clients can connect from any host INET:host-1.fakedomain.net INET:host-1.fakedomain.net INET:localhost LOCAL: I have to always type xhost - so that I can get: "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect" So 2 questions: 1. How can I get xhost by default configured with access control enabled by default? 2. How can I removed a hostname in xhost that has a "-" in it.? In the above example if I do a xhost -host-1.fakedomain.net it doesn't work. There are no /etc/X.* files on my machines so I don't know where to manually delete that entry. Any suggestions? Mahalo, Booker From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Dec 21 08:20:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:20:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: <008601c2a7d0$27cfc840$9c484140@lava.net> Message-ID: Booker wrote: > I have to always type xhost - so that I can get: > "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect" How is XWin started. Maybe with the -ac parameter? Or is xhost called earlier? > > So 2 questions: > > 1. How can I get xhost by default configured with access control enabled > by default? This should be the default value. Please check if the -ac parameter was used on XWin startup or xhost is called during startup. > 2. How can I removed a hostname in xhost that has a "-" in it.? > In the above example if I do a xhost -host-1.fakedomain.net it doesn't > work. There are no /etc/X.* files on my machines so I don't know where > to manually delete that entry. Any suggestions? Try using the ip addess. bye ago NP: grauzone.02-12-09 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sat Dec 21 09:00:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:00:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20021219093559.02ce4c30@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: <20021221002217.16474.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> couldn't that be output on stderr/stdout ? > > However, you may be surprised at the result of invoking "XWin -help", > which > is to say you'll see no output (nor will the X server start up). The > help > output _is_ produced, but it goes into "/tmp/XWin.log" (!) > > > I hope that helps, especially by adding to your repertoire of > self-help > techniques. > > Randall Schulz > > > At 06:42 2002-12-19, Mart??n De Marchi wrote: > >Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? > > > >Thanks. > ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From booker@lava.net Sun Dec 22 11:35:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:35:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c2a90c$cb4df220$a4484140@lava.net> > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Gottwald > Subject: Re: xhost configuration > Booker wrote: > > > I have to always type xhost - so that I can get: > > "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect" > > How is XWin started. Maybe with the -ac parameter? Or is > xhost called earlier? It was started with the -ac parameter. Thanks for the tip! I took it out and xhost has access controls enabled by default now.. I have been trying out gnome, kde and some other desktop environments. I think the command line that the kde readme recommended had the -ac parameter in it. Below is part of my hacked up startxwin.bat file. ========== REM Startup the X Server. REM REM start XWin start XWin.exe -screen 0 1024x768x16 -engine 4 -ac -nowinkill -noreset -emulate3buttons 100 start /B xwinclip.exe REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash REM Startup the twm window manager. REM REM run twm run /usr/local/bin/blackbox ========== I took at look at the docs http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html and there is no mention of the -ac parameter. Nor does doing a XWin.exe -h or /h or ? or just running XWin.exe provide any command line parameters. > > > 2. How can I removed a hostname in xhost that has a "-" in it.? > > In the above example if I do a xhost -host-1.fakedomain.net > it doesn't > > work. There are no /etc/X.* files on my machines so I > don't know where > > to manually delete that entry. Any suggestions? > > Try using the ip addess. > That doesn't work. But the hostname did not have actual dns entries I added it to our dns server. That seemed to have worked but it only takes out one of the entries. On startup it always has duplicate entries: access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net INET:localhost LOCAL: I can do a xhost -chocolae-meat.lava.net and it takes out one of the entries. But it doesn't take out the duplicate entry. And when I exit X and restart it (startxwin.bat), it has both entries again as above. Any other hints? Booker From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 23 13:32:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:32:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: <000901c2a90c$cb4df220$a4484140@lava.net> Message-ID: Booker wrote: > I took at look at the docs > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html > and there is no mention of the -ac parameter. The page does only describe the options that are specific to XWin. The default parameters are described in the Xserver manpage. > Nor does doing a XWin.exe > -h or /h or ? or just running XWin.exe provide any command line > parameters. It does. But the output is redirected to /tmp/XWin.log Maybe this should be added to the options page in the users-guide. > That doesn't work. But the hostname did not have actual dns entries > I added it to our dns server. That seemed to have worked but it only > takes out one of the entries. On startup it always has duplicate > entries: Is this the host where xfree is running? I think these entries are added to allow connections from the host where the xserver is running. I think the entry is added twice because the host might have to network interfaces and they are sharing the same hostname > access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect > INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net > INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net > INET:localhost > LOCAL: > > I can do a xhost -chocolae-meat.lava.net and it takes out one of the > entries. But it doesn't take out the duplicate entry. And when I exit > X and restart it (startxwin.bat), it has both entries again as above. > Any other hints? If this is the host where xwin is running, then you can ignore these entries. bye ago NP: Silke Bischoff - The Devils Teeth -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cgf@redhat.com Mon Dec 23 14:30:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:30:00 -0000 Subject: remove separate xfree directories from ftp download? Message-ID: <20021222193506.GA26368@redhat.com> Would it be possible to remove the xfree directory in the ftp area on sources.redhat.com? Can't we just use the mechanisms available with cygwin's setup and put test releases in the setup hierarchy? At the very least could we get rid of some of the older files from that directory? cgf From kumarchi@attbi.com Mon Dec 23 15:45:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:45:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work Message-ID: hello: I am running 2 pc's wiht cygwin in local network. The pc names are not explicitly in the /etc/hosts file. however telnet, rsh all work fine when I do telnet where is the windows machine name however I cannot make xterm remotely display. It always comes back with the message unable to find display. I have tried setting the display with the ip addres I got from windows ipconfig. That also does not work. What am I missing? Thanx From booker@lava.net Mon Dec 23 15:57:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:57:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work In-Reply-To: <20021223213304.16518133F6@babingka.lava.net> Message-ID: <008801c2aad2$d0d8abf0$c17f4140@lava.net> Aloha, If I understand you correctly, you are running 1 pc as an X server and you are trying to open an xterm session from pc 2 so it can be displayed on pc 1. If so have you tried : http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html I'm no where near understanding how X works myself. Only started using it a few weeks ago. But I think that doc will help you. Mahalo, Booker Apelin System Administrator -- LavaNet, Inc. PGP Key : http://friedbanana.lava.net/pgp.asc > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of kumarchi@attbi.com > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:32 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work > > > hello: > > I am running 2 pc's wiht cygwin in local network. The pc > names are not > explicitly in the /etc/hosts file. > > however telnet, rsh all work fine when I do From kumarchi@attbi.com Mon Dec 23 16:28:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:28:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work Message-ID: Well I missed the export DISPLAY part. but after doing that I get Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: no protocol specified Xterm: xt error cannot open display -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Booker" To: Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:29:54 -1000 Subject: RE: remote xterm - how can I make it work Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Reply-to: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Aloha, If I understand you correctly, you are running 1 pc as an X server and you are trying to open an xterm session from pc 2 so it can be displayed on pc 1. If so have you tried : http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html I'm no where near understanding how X works myself. Only started using it a few weeks ago. But I think that doc will help you. From kumarchi@attbi.com Mon Dec 23 16:56:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:56:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work Message-ID: I atlast figured it out I had to do xhost + and add to the remote control list ( i guess i will put it in .xinitrc) so the steps are xhost + remote_machine (setenv) DISPLAY export DISPLAY thanx From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 23 17:01:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:01:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kumarchi@attbi.com wrote: > xhost + > and add to the remote control list ( i guess i will put it in .xinitrc) After reading that and the telnet thing from the first post I _have_ to add some security notes. First: telnet is bad! With telnet everything you enter is sent unprotected over the network. Everybody on the path between the local and the remote host can read all you enter. Even passwords. _Instead of telnet, use ssh where possible!_ Using xhost is a security problem too. You allow everyone on the remote host to connect to your xserver. This means again he can control the complete X11 desktop (and capture any keystrokes). Normally these authentication is done via a autogenerated password (called cookies). You can show and edit this authentication info with the program xauth. The X11 forwarding option of ssh tries to bypass this vulnerabiltiy. You only connect to a virtual xserver to which only _you_ can connect and all network traffic to the real xserver is encrypted by ssh. So no one on the network can listen what you do. In short: Use ssh! "ssh -X remotehost" will create a connection to the remote host and set up everthing for X11 forwarding. Ever xclient started on the remotehost within the session is automaticly forward to your display. bye ago, writing long christmas security information Merry Christmas to everone on the list! NP: grauzone.02-12-23 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From booker@lava.net Tue Dec 24 05:23:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 05:23:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ce01c2aae7$46865050$c17f4140@lava.net> I agree with Alexander here. In your scenario kumarchi, it sounds like you have an isolated lan so it wouldn't matter as much. But you should practice using the ssh -X tunneling method. It's a lot simpler, i.e. you don't need to configure your $DISPLAY, you don't have you monkey with xhosts, no need to mess with .x* files. Mahalo, Booker > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:28 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: remote xterm - how can I make it work > > In short: > > Use ssh! > "ssh -X remotehost" will create a connection to the remote > host and set up > everthing for X11 forwarding. Ever xclient started on the > remotehost within > the session is automaticly forward to your display. > > From booker@lava.net Tue Dec 24 08:21:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:21:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with ssh -X error message. In-Reply-To: <20021223235746.916B0133C1@babingka.lava.net> Message-ID: <00cf01c2aae7$e8ba3580$c17f4140@lava.net> Aloha, When I connect to server using ssh -X ... I can log in fine, but when I log in an error message is displayed: Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. but I continue with my log in and get into my shell. I can run xclients fine and they tunnel back over the ssh connection. But I am confused as to why I get that error message and everything still works. Booker MELE KALIKIMAKA to everyone also! http://64.224.244.55/ From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 24 10:50:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:50:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with ssh -X error message. In-Reply-To: <00cf01c2aae7$e8ba3580$c17f4140@lava.net> Message-ID: Booker wrote: > Aloha, > > When I connect to server using ssh -X ... I can log in fine, but when I > log in an error message is displayed: > > Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 ^^^^^^^^^^ > forwarding. > > but I continue with my log in and get into my shell. I can run xclients > fine and they tunnel back over the ssh connection. But I am confused as > to why I get that error message and everything still works. It's not an error. It's a warning. By default the xserver is not setup to use the authentication cookies. ssh normally uses these cookies. But if none is set, ssh will print this warning bye ago NP: grauzone.02-12-23 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From zakki@peppermint.jp Tue Dec 24 10:52:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:52:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode Message-ID: Hi, This is the patch solve moving window proble. The proble of former patch In Multi-window mode if X window moves Windows window move, and vice versa. When there are "move to A and move to B" message in queue. Windows window move to point A X window move to point A(this make Windows window move to A) Window window move B X window move to point B(this make Windows window move to B) Windows window move to point A X window move to point A(this make Windows window move to A) Window window move B X window move to point B(this make Windows window move to B) ...so never stop. In this path, it waits a minutes to ignores continuously message and only processes move to point B when it receive WM_MOVE. Kensuke Matsuzaki -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: multiwindow.tar.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12262 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kumarchi@attbi.com Tue Dec 24 15:18:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:18:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work - ssh error Message-ID: Thanx for the tip on ssh From kumarchi@attbi.com Thu Dec 26 18:39:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:39:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work - ssh error Message-ID: Thanx for the tip on ssh but when I try ssh I get the following (both ssh and ssh -X) ssh connect to host port 22: connection refused do I need any special set up for ssh? (rsh and other remote application work fine) From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 26 19:24:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:24:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work - ssh error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kumarchi@attbi.com wrote: > but when I try ssh I get the following (both ssh and ssh -X) > ssh connect to host port 22: connection refused > do I need any special set up for ssh? The ssh server is not running. Or maybe not installed. bye ago NP: Apoptygma Berzerk - Half Asleep -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Dec 27 03:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:31:00 -0000 Subject: remove separate xfree directories from ftp download? References: <20021222193506.GA26368@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3E0BBD40.2010304@msu.edu> Chris, I cleaned it up. There was a lot of crap that was not being used, but the one directory that is left, devel, is still needed. Harold Christopher Faylor wrote: > Would it be possible to remove the xfree directory in the ftp area on > sources.redhat.com? Can't we just use the mechanisms available with > cygwin's setup and put test releases in the setup hierarchy? > > At the very least could we get rid of some of the older files from > that directory? > > cgf From cgf@redhat.com Fri Dec 27 04:17:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 04:17:00 -0000 Subject: remove separate xfree directories from ftp download? In-Reply-To: <3E0BBD40.2010304@msu.edu> References: <20021222193506.GA26368@redhat.com> <3E0BBD40.2010304@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021227032355.GA14760@redhat.com> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 09:38:56PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >I cleaned it up. There was a lot of crap that was not being used, but >the one directory that is left, devel, is still needed. Thanks a lot Harold. Hard to believe in this day and age but we are running out of disk space on this system. Cleanups are appreciated. Also, a belated Merry Christmas to you and everyone in this mailing list. cgf From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Dec 27 06:13:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:13:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 Message-ID: <20021227113107.GC784@fairlite.demon.co.uk> I'm about to commit a patch to the XFree86 CVS that uses the new relocation code in cygwin 1.3.18. This allows us to create the last few libraries as shared code. Here's the patch if people would like to test first. I've build tested the entire tree without problems, but not tested cross compiling. Alan. Index: config/cf/cygwin.cf =================================================================== RCS file: /X11R6/x-cvs/xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf,v retrieving revision 3.48 diff -u -r3.48 cygwin.cf --- config/cf/cygwin.cf 28 Nov 2002 16:50:58 -0000 3.48 +++ config/cf/cygwin.cf 27 Dec 2002 01:06:21 -0000 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ #define UseGas YES #define GnuCpp YES -#define ExtraLoadFlags -Wl,--enable-auto-import +#define ExtraLoadFlags -Wl,--enable-auto-import -Wl,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc #define HasShadowPasswd NO #define HasLibCrypt YES Index: config/cf/cygwin.rules =================================================================== RCS file: /X11R6/x-cvs/xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules,v retrieving revision 3.22 diff -u -r3.22 cygwin.rules --- config/cf/cygwin.rules 17 Oct 2002 08:18:17 -0000 3.22 +++ config/cf/cygwin.rules 27 Dec 2002 01:06:21 -0000 @@ -7,11 +7,11 @@ #define HasSharedLibraries YES #define NeedLibInsideFlag NO #define ForceNormalLib NO -#define SharedLibXaw NO /* For these we need new binutils */ -#define SharedLibXmu NO -#define SharedLibXt NO -#define SharedLibFont NO -#define SharedLibXaw6 NO +#define SharedLibXaw YES +#define SharedLibXmu YES +#define SharedLibXt YES +#define SharedLibFont YES +#define SharedLibXaw6 YES #define SharedLibSM YES #define SharedLibICE YES #define SharedLibXext YES @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@ */ #define MakeDLLProg(libname,solist,prog,rev) @@\ - prog -shared -Wl,--out-implib=ImportLibraryName(libname,rev) -Wl,--enable-auto-import --def libname.def -Wl,--exclude-libs,ALL -o SharedLibraryName(libname,rev) solist $(REQUIREDLIBS) + prog -shared -Wl,--out-implib=ImportLibraryName(libname,rev) -Wl,--enable-auto-import -Wl,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc --def libname.def -Wl,--exclude-libs,ALL -o SharedLibraryName(libname,rev) solist $(REQUIREDLIBS) /* * MakeDll Index: lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp =================================================================== RCS file: /X11R6/x-cvs/xc/lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Xaw-def.cpp --- lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp 31 May 2002 18:45:44 -0000 1.2 +++ lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp 27 Dec 2002 11:20:02 -0000 @@ -133,7 +133,7 @@ XawViewportSetLocation XawWidgetArray XawWidgetCount -#ifdef __UNIXOS2__ /* xconsole */ +#if defined(__CYGWIN__) || defined(__UNIXOS2__) /* xconsole, xedit */ _XawTextGetSTRING XawTextSourceAddEntity XawTextSourceAnchorAndEntity From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 27 08:52:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 08:52:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021227113107.GC784@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > I'm about to commit a patch to the XFree86 CVS that uses the new relocation > code in cygwin 1.3.18. This allows us to create the last few libraries > as shared code. How will this affect people with cygwin <1.3.18? > I've build tested the entire tree without problems, but not tested > cross compiling. I'll try today. Or this weekend. I'll have to build cygwin too *g* bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Fri Dec 27 09:07:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:07:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 References: <20021227113107.GC784@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E0C5FA2.1080802@ece.gatech.edu> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Alan Hourihane wrote: > > >>I'm about to commit a patch to the XFree86 CVS that uses the new relocation >>code in cygwin 1.3.18. This allows us to create the last few libraries >>as shared code. > > > How will this affect people with cygwin <1.3.18? It won't affect them (adversely). All that matters is that the developer's system has cygwin >= 1.3.18 (and "developer" also means anyone who is attempting to *compile* an X-based program, not just those who are compiling XFree86 itself). E.g. pure "users" who don't compile anything, will be fine. They can run the new binaries. --enable-pseudo-reloc tells the linker "don't worry about multi-word data imports; the runtime will fix them up". And, the "runtime" is actually a snippet of *static* code that gets linked into the dll/exe -- this static code is included in libcygwin1.a. Since it's static (e.g. not in cygwin1.dll), every compiled program/dll that needs it will have its very own copy; it doesn't matter if the user has an old version of cygwin1.dll. --Chuck From gri6507@yahoo.com Fri Dec 27 12:50:00 2002 From: gri6507@yahoo.com (Paul Grinberg) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:50:00 -0000 Subject: Problem compiling Eterm / imlib2 / freetype Message-ID: <20021227165211.3959.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I was trying to find a terminal not only capable of supporting transparency, but also capable of tinting (or shading, if you will) the transparent background. rxvt does not seem to handle this. I found Eterm to be a feasible solution. Problem is that to compile Eterm, I need imlib2, which, in turn, requires libttf.so - a dynamically linked freetype 1.2 library. I followed ths instructions for building a .so for freetype, but imlib2 does not seem to like it (dies during the configure script, saying that the library cannot be found). Is there an old libftt.so that I can download? Any suggestions for compiling freetype / imlib2? Are there any alternatives to using Eterm? Thanks, in advance, Paul Grinberg. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From aspinto@oninet.pt Fri Dec 27 17:41:00 2002 From: aspinto@oninet.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ant=F3nio_Pinto?=) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:41:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <20021227165211.3959.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101c2adca$1973be50$3a03a8c0@estgf.ipp.pt> Hi everyone, I'm triyng to use WindowsMaker but e get the following errors : wmaker warning: could not find user GNUstep directory (//GNUstep/Defaults/). Installing WindowMaker 0.80.0 for current user... Creating //GNUstep user directory mkdir: cannot create directory `//GNUstep': No such file or directory chmod: getting attributes of `//GNUstep': No such file or directory mkdir: cannot create directory `//GNUstep/.AppInfo': No such host or network chmod: getting attributes of `//GNUstep/.AppInfo': No such file or directory mkdir: cannot create directory `//GNUstep/Defaults': No such host or network chmod: getting attributes of `//GNUstep/Defaults': No such file or directory Copying defaults database... /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMGLOBAL: error /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu: /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMState: error 136 /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMWindowAttributes error 136 /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker: error 136 My system is a Dell running Win 2000, my Cygwin is the latest available version for download (downloaded today) and WindowMaker version is 0.8.0. thx, Ant?nio Pinto From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 27 19:23:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:23:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > I've build tested the entire tree without problems, but not tested > > cross compiling. > > I'll try today. Or this weekend. I'll have to build cygwin too *g* The build was ok, except: config/cf/cygwin.tmpl needs #define SharedXfontReqs $(LDPRELIB) $(XLIBONLY) GzipLibrary $(FREETYPE2LIB) $(FONTSTUBLIB) and lib/font/Xfont-def.cpp was missing. I generated the file and attached it to this mail. Maybe we can remove these dependencies. Or do we still need these files, even with autoimport? But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error Error: Unresolved inheritance operation bye ago NP: Apoptygma Berzerk - Electronic Warfare -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Xfont-def.cpp URL: From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sat Dec 28 03:41:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation mmmm, just tried the binaries on my w2k box and it gives... "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022)...." Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Sat Dec 28 08:15:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:15:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> References: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:40:50AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: >> But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error >> Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > >mmmm, just tried the binaries on my w2k box and it gives... > >"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022)...." Make sure that the binaries and dlls have chmod a+x permissions. cgf From thomas@waelde.de Sat Dec 28 08:19:00 2002 From: thomas@waelde.de (Thomas Wälde) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot open Display :0.0 Message-ID: <001601c2ae66$56a757e0$020110ac@twaelde> Dear all, pls, provide. I installed Cygwin on Win98 and isworking fine. However if i try to start the local X-Server, it does not work. The Display variable is set to the Ip-@ of the LAN-Interface and the X-Server is telling me, that he cannot open this display. Pls, help me. Thks in advance, happy Xmas and happy new year n Brgds Thomas From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sat Dec 28 08:53:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:53:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 References: Message-ID: <3E0DCDC9.2050206@ece.gatech.edu> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > and lib/font/Xfont-def.cpp was missing. I generated the file and attached it > to this mail. Maybe we can remove these dependencies. Or do we still need > these files, even with autoimport? It's really a case of whether auto-*export* is working. As is, ld will automatically export all symbols, unless: 1) you explicitly specify a .def file, or 2) ANY of your object files contain ANY symbol that is *already* marked with __declspec(dllexport). In that case, ld figures that you'd've marked every symbol you want to export and won't automatically add anything to the export list. 2) sometimes leads to non-intuitive behavior (e.g. glib, where Tor explicitly marked ONLY those symbols that were multi-word data items -- that is, where runtime-pseudo-relocs would be used in newer ld's -- and thus, ONLY those five symbols get exported, unless a .def file is used. Which is way more difficult to do with libtool than it should be. Sigh. If either 1) or 2) is true, but you WANT additional exports, you can either a) explicitly specify --export-all-symbols on the link line b) create and use a .def file if you were not previously doing so, or add the additional symbols to the .def file if you were already using one. So, the question is: "Is any symbol in the XFree86 codebase explicitly marked with __declspec(dllexport) when compiled for cygwin?" YES: then you DO need to keep the .def file (and note that ld is sensitive to whether the filename ends in ".def") or you must explicitly specify "--export-all-symbols" on the link line. NO: then the .def file can be discarded, and you can rely on the implicit export-all-symbols behavior (unless you want to restrict the export list to some subset of "all symbols"). (Oh, and the .def file does give you the in-built LIBRARY VERSION string...if that's important) > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation Dunno about this. --Chuck From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de Sat Dec 28 08:56:00 2002 From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:56:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test06 Message-ID: Hi all, Harold, I just figured out a problem that I have had with xwinclip-Test06. The Windows PeekMessage() message loop doesn't process all messages. When a message gets sent that is not processed, xwinclip starts an endless loop alternating between select() and PeekMessage(). The reason is the way PeekMessage() is called with a HWND as parameter. That filters messages, so only messages to that special HWND are returned and processed. Messages with a NULL HWND (like WM_QUIT or other, possibly Windows-internal messages) remain in the queue. I just commented out the creation of the dummy HWND, initialized that variable to NULL and everything works fine now. The HWND is only used for PeekMessage (where it's harmfull) and OpenClipboard() (where it's optional) so the whole thing can just be removed unless I am missing something. In addition the PeekMessage() loop should probably check for WM_QUIT, it currently ignores that even though the window proc actually sends it ;-). so long, benny From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sat Dec 28 09:11:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:11:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> References: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 10:23:22PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:40:50AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > >> But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > >> Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > > >mmmm, just tried the binaries on my w2k box and it gives... > > > >"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022)...." > > Make sure that the binaries and dlls have chmod a+x permissions. +x was missing. Thanks for the heads up Chris. Seems we'll need to tweak the build process to chmod them. Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sat Dec 28 09:26:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:26:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021228165610.GD780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation I can confirm I get this too Alexander. Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Dec 28 09:36:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228165610.GD780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > I can confirm I get this too Alexander. I'll do a build without the pseudo-relocation changes and see if it happens there too. I hope the error resulted from an incomplete installation (in fact I only started the binaries from the export dir and did no install at all) bye ago NP: Blutengel - Night Of Sin -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Dec 28 14:26:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:26:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > Seems we'll need to tweak the build process to chmod them. Found the error. See attached patch. NP: Blutengel - Angel Dust III -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -------------- next part -------------- --- cygwin.rules.old Sat Dec 28 18:24:44 2002 +++ cygwin.rules Sat Dec 28 18:20:15 2002 @@ -240,7 +240,7 @@ #define InstallSharedLibrary(libname,rev,dest) @@\ InstallTarget(install,ImportLibraryName(libname,rev),$(INSTLIBFLAGS),$(USRLIBDIR)) @@\ -InstallTarget(install,SharedLibraryName(libname,rev),$(INSTLIBFLAGS),$(BINDIR)) @@\ +InstallTarget(install,SharedLibraryName(libname,rev),$(INSTBINFLAGS),$(BINDIR)) @@\ InstallLink(install,ImportLibraryName(libname,rev),ShortImportLibraryName(libname,rev),$(USRLIBDIR)) From cgf@redhat.com Sat Dec 28 14:37:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:37:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> References: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20021228173617.GB14871@redhat.com> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 04:53:21PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 10:23:22PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:40:50AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: >> >> But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error >> >> Error: Unresolved inheritance operation >> > >> >mmmm, just tried the binaries on my w2k box and it gives... >> > >> >"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022)...." >> >> Make sure that the binaries and dlls have chmod a+x permissions. > >+x was missing. Thanks for the heads up Chris. > >Seems we'll need to tweak the build process to chmod them. Yeah, this has been the subject of sporadic discussion over in cygwin-apps. It would be nice (TM, R, (C)) if setup.exe somehow did this for you so you wouldn't have to worry about it. cgf From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Dec 29 20:41:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:41:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > > > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > > > I can confirm I get this too Alexander. > > I'll do a build without the pseudo-relocation changes and see if it happens > there too. I hope the error resulted from an incomplete installation (in fact > I only started the binaries from the export dir and did no install at all) Without the reloc patch everything is fine. The problem is _XtInherit. I'm now trying to build all libraries with the SUNSHLIB macro. maybe this works. At least xclock started after i replaced cygXt-6.dll with a version where SUNSHLIB was defined. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Dec 29 21:26:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:26:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021228223703.GF780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 11:26:35PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > > Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > > > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > > > > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > > > > > I can confirm I get this too Alexander. > > > > I'll do a build without the pseudo-relocation changes and see if it happens > > there too. I hope the error resulted from an incomplete installation (in fact > > I only started the binaries from the export dir and did no install at all) > Without the reloc patch everything is fine. The problem is _XtInherit. I'm > now trying to build all libraries with the SUNSHLIB macro. maybe this works. > At least xclock started after i replaced cygXt-6.dll with a version where > SUNSHLIB was defined. Great work, let me have an extra patch when your ready Alexander. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 30 05:11:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test06 References: Message-ID: <3E0FCE66.60606@msu.edu> Benny, Yes, you are correct that NULL should be passed to PeekMessage rather than the handle to the messaging window. I have made this change now. However, I will leave in the messaging window as it is needed by many people that are working on patches, so it would be silly to remove all of that framework. I will try to make a new release of xwinclip shortly. Harold Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > Hi all, Harold, > > > I just figured out a problem that I have had with xwinclip-Test06. > > The Windows PeekMessage() message loop doesn't process all messages. > When a message gets sent that is not processed, xwinclip starts an > endless loop alternating between select() and PeekMessage(). > > The reason is the way PeekMessage() is called with a HWND as > parameter. That filters messages, so only messages to that special > HWND are returned and processed. Messages with a NULL HWND (like > WM_QUIT or other, possibly Windows-internal messages) remain in the > queue. > > I just commented out the creation of the dummy HWND, initialized that > variable to NULL and everything works fine now. The HWND is only used > for PeekMessage (where it's harmfull) and OpenClipboard() (where it's > optional) so the whole thing can just be removed unless I am missing > something. > > In addition the PeekMessage() loop should probably check for WM_QUIT, > it currently ignores that even though the window proc actually sends > it ;-). > > > so long, benny > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 30 07:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:48:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 07 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 07 to the xwinclip development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ You can install the Test 07 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'release' package (and be sure to check the 'Bin' box): XFree86-xwinclip-4.2.0-07 xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test07.exe.bz2 (6 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20021229-2344.tar.bz2 (17 KiB) Changes: 1) wndproc.c - Pass NULL to PeekMessage instead of the hwnd for our messaging window, since this was causing some vital messages to be filtered out. (Benjamin Riefenstahl) 2) xwinclip.c - Use setjmp and longjmp to gracefully catch IO Errors and restart the process from the entry point. This should allow xwinclip to continue running when the X Server resets. (Chris Twiner) Enjoy, Harold From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 12:26:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228223703.GF780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Without the reloc patch everything is fine. The problem is _XtInherit. I'm > > now trying to build all libraries with the SUNSHLIB macro. maybe this works. > > At least xclock started after i replaced cygXt-6.dll with a version where > > SUNSHLIB was defined. > > Great work, let me have an extra patch when your ready Alexander. This was an dead end. xedit and xmessage have still problems. Unfortunatly I can't debug the programs since gdb causes 100% load after "run" and does so for hours. So I don't even know where _XtInherit is called and whats different with the relocation. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Afterfire -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de Mon Dec 30 15:21:00 2002 From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test06 In-Reply-To: <3E0FCE66.60606@msu.edu> References: <3E0FCE66.60606@msu.edu> Message-ID: Hi Harold, Harold L Hunt II writes: > However, I will leave in the messaging window as it is needed by > many people that are working on patches, so it would be silly to > remove all of that framework. Of course. > I will try to make a new release of xwinclip shortly. Looks nice, I will try it right away. Thanks, benny From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Mon Dec 30 15:28:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:28:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems Message-ID: <3E1084FB.DEEA5A2@fi.uba.ar> Hi! I'm developing a linux application, but the majority of the pc's in my organization have installed windows system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the machines and use the linux application remotely. I need that the user (windows system) use the remote linux application (via xfree) and see the local windows file system (not the linux file system) for load and save files, to use the local printer. Is there any way for configure X and make this? Thanks! Mart??n. From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 16:03:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:03:00 -0000 Subject: Buildpatch for cygdps.dll Message-ID: Hi, the patch fixes some dependency problems with crosscompiling libdps. The Imakefile has a build dependency for ProgramTargetName(pswrap) which is pswrap.exe for cygwin, but should be pswrap when crosscompiling. This caused libdps to be recompiled whenever make or make install waas called for libdps. The patch changes the ProgramTargetName to HostProgramTargetName. Index: Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/dps/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 Imakefile --- Imakefile 2002/06/06 01:40:21 1.15 +++ Imakefile 2002/12/30 23:16:57 @@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ includes:: $(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES) $(HEADERS) -$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) +$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) SRCS = \ ${COMMONSOURCEFILES} \ @@ -224,13 +224,13 @@ .SUFFIXES: .psw .h -.psw.c : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) +.psw.c : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -o $*.c -h $*.h $<) -.psw.h : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) +.psw.h : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -h $*.h $< > /dev/null) -ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): +HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): @echo "checking $@ over in $(PSWRAPSRC) first..."; \ cd $(PSWRAPSRC) && $(MAKE); \ echo "okay, continuing in $(CURRENT_DIR)" NP: VNV Nation - Saviour -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 17:09:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:09:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: <3E1084FB.DEEA5A2@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: Mart??n De Marchi wrote: > Hi! > > I'm developing a linux application, but the majority > of the pc's in my organization have installed windows > system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the > machines and use the linux application remotely. > I need that the user (windows system) use the > remote linux application (via xfree) and see the > local windows file system (not the linux file system) > for load and save files, to use the local printer. > Is there any way for configure X and make this? No. Using the remote application is like walking to the linux pc and working there. You don't have access to the windows host. The only way to exchange files is to use a network filesystem (SMB or AFS) and access this from linux and windows. Same for the printer. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Fragments -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Dec 30 17:19:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:19:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021231000327.76998.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Hasn't got cygwin any nfs port ? > No. Using the remote application is like walking to the linux pc and > working there. You don't have access to the windows host. The only > way > to exchange files is to use a network filesystem (SMB or AFS) and > access > this from linux and windows. Same for the printer. > > bye > ago > > NP: VNV Nation - Fragments > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 30 17:23:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:23:00 -0000 Subject: Buildpatch for cygdps.dll Message-ID: <200212310109.gBV19gc78070@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Alexander, Good catch! Alan - do you want to commit this directly? Harold Alexander Gottwald said: > Hi, > > the patch fixes some dependency problems with crosscompiling libdps. > The Imakefile has a build dependency for ProgramTargetName(pswrap) which > is pswrap.exe for cygwin, but should be pswrap when crosscompiling. This > caused libdps to be recompiled whenever make or make install waas called > for libdps. The patch changes the ProgramTargetName to HostProgramTargetName. > > Index: Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/dps/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.15 > diff -u -r1.15 Imakefile > --- Imakefile 2002/06/06 01:40:21 1.15 > +++ Imakefile 2002/12/30 23:16:57 > @@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ > > includes:: $(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES) $(HEADERS) > > -$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > +$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > SRCS = \ > ${COMMONSOURCEFILES} \ > @@ -224,13 +224,13 @@ > > .SUFFIXES: .psw .h > > -.psw.c : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > +.psw.c : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -o $*.c -h $*.h $<) > > -.psw.h : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > +.psw.h : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -h $*.h $< > /dev/null) > > -ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > +HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > @echo "checking $@ over in $(PSWRAPSRC) first..."; \ > cd $(PSWRAPSRC) && $(MAKE); \ > echo "okay, continuing in $(CURRENT_DIR)" > > NP: VNV Nation - Saviour > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 22:19:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:19:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > So I don't even know where _XtInherit is called and whats different with the > relocation. gdb revealed: Dll1 (libXt) defines void _XtInherit(). Dll2 (libXaw) uses _XtInherit and passes it to a function in libXt which does if (x == _XtInherit) { foo() }; Unfortunatly it is not the same if _XtInherit is used in libXt or libXaw. the statement x = _XtInherit for example resulted in x = 0xb38478 for libXt and x = 0x641550 for libXaw. And thats why the if condition failed. A simple testcase is: test.h: typedef void (*f)(void); extern f _foo(void); extern void foo(void); //#define foo _foo() extern void test(void (*func)(void)); extern void run1(void); extern void run2(void); dll1.c: #include "test.h" #include #undef foo f _foo(void) { return foo; } void foo(void) { printf("Error\n"); } void test(void (*func)(void)) { if (func != foo) func(); else printf("skipped\n"); } void run1() { test(foo); } dll2.c: #include "test.h" void run2(void) { test(foo); } test.c: #include "test.h" #include int main(int argc, char ** argv) { printf("run1\n"); run1(); printf("run2\n"); run2(); return 0; } build (cygwin): $ gcc -shared -out-implib=dll1.a -Wl,--enable-auto-import,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc -o dll1.dll dll1.c $ gcc -shared -out-implib=dll2.a -Wl,--enable-auto-import,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc -o dll2.dll dll2.c dll1.a $ gcc test.c dll1.a dll2.a -o test.exe $ ./test.exe run1 skipped run2 Error build (linux): $ gcc dll1.c -shared -o dll1.so $ gcc dll2.c -shared -o dll2.so $ gcc test.c dll1.so dll2.so -o test $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./test run1 skipped run2 skipped Enabling the define in test.h returns to the correct behaviour. I'll try tomorrow if I can change the XtInheritXXX defines to function calls and bypass these problems. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Joy -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 22:20:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:20:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: <20021231000327.76998.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > Hasn't got cygwin any nfs port ? No. This does not make sense since the NFS driver must be attached to the windows VFS. It would be possible to write a fhandler for cygwin which does all the nfs stuff but then only cygwin programs could access the nfs files. It's the same as the /proc filesystem for cygwin. NP: VNV Nation - Procession -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 31 02:08:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 02:08:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20020626.180319.74745954.maru@on.cs.keio.ac.jp> Message-ID: Koji, Could you check the 4.2.0-7 version of Cygwin/XFree86's xwinclip package to make sure that it still works with Japanese characters on Windows NT/2000/XP? Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 31 03:38:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 03:38:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Koji, Oops, I was thinking I was sending this to Kensuke... but now you can both verify that it still works :) Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 1:19 AM To: Koji Nakamaru Cc: cygx Subject: xwinclip Koji, Could you check the 4.2.0-7 version of Cygwin/XFree86's xwinclip package to make sure that it still works with Japanese characters on Windows NT/2000/XP? Thanks, Harold From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Tue Dec 31 05:17:00 2002 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:17:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BD6C7@EX-LONDON> actualy there is a working NFS server but its still in testing. (search the cygwin-apps mailing list for details) no NFS client i know of though. the URL was http://www.oneparticularharbor.net/cygwin/ only tried it for an afternoon though. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Gottwald > [mailto:Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de] > Sent: 31 December 2002 01:23 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: XFree and File Systems > > > Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > > > Hasn't got cygwin any nfs port ? > > No. This does not make sense since the NFS driver must be > attached to the > windows VFS. It would be possible to write a fhandler for > cygwin which > does all the nfs stuff but then only cygwin programs could access the > nfs files. It's the same as the /proc filesystem for cygwin. > > NP: VNV Nation - Procession > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From zakki@peppermint.jp Tue Dec 31 05:36:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (zakki@peppermint.jp) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86n0mmmn2z.wl@zakki@peppermint.jp> Harold, I can't test it till January 6. I tested xwinclip which looks at event.xselection.selection instead of PRIMARY, and it worked fine. But I don't know whether other change has succeeded. Kensuke Matsuzaki From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Dec 31 06:56:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 06:56:00 -0000 Subject: Buildpatch for cygdps.dll In-Reply-To: <200212310109.gBV19gc78070@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> References: <200212310109.gBV19gc78070@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021231131603.GA926@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Done. On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:09:42 -0500, Harold L Hunt wrote: > Alexander, > > Good catch! > > Alan - do you want to commit this directly? > > Harold > > Alexander Gottwald said: > > > Hi, > > > > the patch fixes some dependency problems with crosscompiling libdps. > > The Imakefile has a build dependency for ProgramTargetName(pswrap) which > > is pswrap.exe for cygwin, but should be pswrap when crosscompiling. This > > caused libdps to be recompiled whenever make or make install waas called > > for libdps. The patch changes the ProgramTargetName to > HostProgramTargetName. > > > > Index: Imakefile > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/dps/Imakefile,v > > retrieving revision 1.15 > > diff -u -r1.15 Imakefile > > --- Imakefile 2002/06/06 01:40:21 1.15 > > +++ Imakefile 2002/12/30 23:16:57 > > @@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ > > > > includes:: $(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES) $(HEADERS) > > > > -$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > +$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > > > SRCS = \ > > ${COMMONSOURCEFILES} \ > > @@ -224,13 +224,13 @@ > > > > .SUFFIXES: .psw .h > > > > -.psw.c : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > +.psw.c : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -o $*.c -h $*.h $<) > > > > -.psw.h : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > +.psw.h : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -h $*.h $< > /dev/null) > > > > -ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > > +HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > > @echo "checking $@ over in $(PSWRAPSRC) first..."; \ > > cd $(PSWRAPSRC) && $(MAKE); \ > > echo "okay, continuing in $(CURRENT_DIR)" > > > > NP: VNV Nation - Saviour > > -- > > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > > > > > From rasjidw@openminddev.net Tue Dec 31 09:14:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:14:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301010037.12015.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:28 am, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Mart??n De Marchi wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I'm developing a linux application, but the majority > > of the pc's in my organization have installed windows > > system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the > > machines and use the linux application remotely. > > I need that the user (windows system) use the > > remote linux application (via xfree) and see the > > local windows file system (not the linux file system) > > for load and save files, to use the local printer. > > Is there any way for configure X and make this? > > No. Using the remote application is like walking to the linux pc and > working there. You don't have access to the windows host. The only way > to exchange files is to use a network filesystem (SMB or AFS) and access > this from linux and windows. Same for the printer. The best and easiest way is to have a central server (eg NT, 2000, XP or for an open-source GPL solution, Mitel SME/E-Smith) with each user with a directory on the server \\centralserver\username. Then have something along the lines of: mkdir -p $HOME/windows smbmount //centralserver/$USER $HOME/windows called when they either log onto the linux box (via XDMCP) or run the program (via ssh for example). Exact implementation will depend on whether you are using XDMCP or ssh and various other factors. If you don't have a central windows (like) server, then I would recommend looking at the GPL version of Mitel SME (http://www.e-smith.org) - it is essentially a free NT server replacement without any user-license restrictions. If you *really* want the user to be looking at their local filesystem, and you are using ssh, then something along the lines of: WINDOWS_IP=`echo $SSH_CLIENT | cut -d' ' -f 1` mkdir -p $HOME/windows WINHOST=`nmblookup -A $WINDOWS_IP | head -n 2 | tail -n 1 | tr -s [:blank:] ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f 2` smbmount //$WINHOST/c$ $HOME/windows in either the logon script of your linux box, or in the start-up script of your program may do the trick. (The above assumes the same usernames on the Windows and Linux box.) If using XDMCP, then replace the first line with: WINDOWS_IP=`echo $DISPLAY | cut -d= -f 2 | cut -d: -f 1` In all the above, there are various issues with passwords and security that would need to be resolved before using in a production situation. See the manpages. You may also want to change //$WINHOST/c$ to //$WINHOST/mydocs or whatever. Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Tue Dec 31 09:35:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:35:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 References: Message-ID: <3E11AF98.1030802@ece.gatech.edu> Alexander Gottwald wrote: >>So I don't even know where _XtInherit is called and whats different with the >>relocation. > > > gdb revealed: > > Dll1 (libXt) defines void _XtInherit(). Dll2 (libXaw) uses _XtInherit and > passes it to a function in libXt which does > if (x == _XtInherit) { foo() }; > > Unfortunatly it is not the same if _XtInherit is used in libXt or libXaw. > the statement x = _XtInherit for example resulted in > x = 0xb38478 for libXt and > x = 0x641550 for libXaw. And thats why the if condition failed. I seem to remember that pointer comparisons across a DLL boundary is a Bad Thing; relocations and such. But I don't remember where I saw that -- MSDN or ld docs, and I can't find it now. :-( --Chuck From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 31 10:18:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <3E11AF98.1030802@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: Charles Wilson wrote: > I seem to remember that pointer comparisons across a DLL boundary is a > Bad Thing; relocations and such. But I don't remember where I saw that > -- MSDN or ld docs, and I can't find it now. :-( I changed it so that libXt uses _XtInherit and all other libraries and code uses _imp___XtInherit. Now it seems that the comparisation is passed, but It's worse than that. Can libXt.dll call a function from libXaw.dll? eg: in Xt: void XtCallFunction(void (*func)(void)) { (*func)(); } in Xaw: void XawFoo(void) { } void XawBar(void) { XtCallFunction(XawFoo) } If not, then we can skip the whole shared libXaw and libXt part. Some of the widget classes from libXaw have callbacks defined which are called in libXt functions. NP: VNV Nation - Prologue -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 31 15:34:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:34:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > I changed it so that libXt uses _XtInherit and all other libraries and code > uses _imp___XtInherit. Now it seems that the comparisation is passed, but > It's worse than that. No. That was wrong. I think I'll have to redefine _XtInherit to NULL. The compare will work but the fallback to produce the "Unresolved inheritance" error will then result in a segfault. Or is there any other way to access the location of _XtInherit from libXaw at linktime? > Can libXt.dll call a function from libXaw.dll? > If not, then we can skip the whole shared libXaw and libXt part. Some of > the widget classes from libXaw have callbacks defined which are called in > libXt functions. I now found some code that uses this. So it does work. NP: VNV Nation - Solitary -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 31 15:37:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:37:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > No. That was wrong. I think I'll have to redefine _XtInherit to NULL. The > compare will work but the fallback to produce the "Unresolved inheritance" > error will then result in a segfault. NULL did not work. But I've changed it to another constant and now it works. What should work too is using a cygwin or libX11 function. That means a function which is imported from a dll in both cases (libXt and libXaw) and which terminates the program. Maybe exit? -----------8<-----------8<--------- diff -ur lib/Xt/Initialize.c lib/Xt/Initialize.c --- lib/Xt/Initialize.c Sat Jul 6 15:03:01 2002 +++ lib/Xt/Initialize.c Tue Dec 31 15:47:20 2002 @@ -174,7 +174,9 @@ #endif } - +#if defined(__CYGWIN__) +#undef _XtInherit +#endif #ifdef SUNSHLIB void _XtInherit() { diff -ur lib/Xt/IntrinsicP.h lib/Xt/IntrinsicP.h --- lib/Xt/IntrinsicP.h Mon Dec 17 18:32:44 2001 +++ lib/Xt/IntrinsicP.h Tue Dec 31 18:53:32 2002 @@ -298,6 +298,9 @@ void #endif ); +#if defined(__CYGWIN__) +#define _XtInherit 0xdeadbeef +#endif extern void XtCreateWindow( #if NeedFunctionPrototypes ------------8<--------8<------------- NP: Zeraphine - Flieh mit mir -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Sun Dec 1 05:05:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 05:05:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, J S wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > When I try to run the command: > > > > XWin -query smpd9 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > > > that brings up the solaris xdmcp session if I'm running XFree86 on win >XP/2K > > or NT. But if I try to run this on windows 95, it bombs out. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Good. A very short error description with nearly no information. > >What's in /tmp/XWin.log >What does xdm tell >Is there any network traffic > > > Is this because Xfree86 doesn't support XDMCP on Windows 95? > >It does support windows 95. > >bye > ago Thanks, and sorry for the poor error description. I didn't realise there was an xwin log. Do you know where the xdm log (on solaris) is as well? Anyway the main thing is everyone said it works on windows 95. Thanks for your reply. JS. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru Sun Dec 1 16:44:00 2002 From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 16:44:00 -0000 Subject: Latest XFree86/cygwin strange behavoir Message-ID: <16377705702.20021129210957@serebryakov.spb.ru> Hello cygwin-xfree, (1) Could I pass some option to Xwin.exe, that prevents it from resetting after last client? I don't have any X clients except `xhost' ob my very poor windows machine, and I could not use xhost, because after it disconnection X server resets and forgets about added host :) (2) On every reset, X server window (I'm using it in windowed mode -- running without any special options) becomes smaller in both directions. On 1152x864 screen, Xwin window survive about 40 resets and after that is unusable small! (3) Is it possible to add TTF fonts to Xwin without using font server? -- Best regards, Lev mailto:lev@serebryakov.spb.ru From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Sun Dec 1 21:20:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:20:00 -0000 Subject: Connection Tool crashs Re: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: <20021129213951.GA26579@teich.Garten.DigitalProjects.com> So sprach Vince Hoffman am 2002-11-29 um 14:48:49 -0000 : > I seem to remember post about something similar, try searching the archives > for 'connection tool' Thanks. I found the file from www.thelinuxbeat.com, downloaded the setup file and installed it. It works pretty well - however, it crashs, when you leave the "network" empty. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 1 day 3 hours 34 minutes From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 2 04:30:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 04:30:00 -0000 Subject: Connection Tool crashs Re: Host Chooser Program? Message-ID: >So sprach Vince Hoffman am 2002-11-29 um 14:48:49 -0000 : > > I seem to remember post about something similar, try searching the >archives > > for 'connection tool' > >Thanks. I found the file from www.thelinuxbeat.com, downloaded the >setup file and installed it. It works pretty well - however, it crashs, >when you leave the "network" empty. > >Alexander Skwar >-- Hi, I also installed the cygwin connection tool but when I try to run it I get the following error: A required .DLL file, MSVBVM60.DLL was not found I did a search on my PC but it couldn't find this DLL so it's not a PATH problem. What OS are you using? I'm on Win 98. Also I see from the source code that this is written in Visual Basic. (Never mind) Anyway do you know how to compile the source code? Is there a free VB compiler anyone knows of? Thanks for any help. JS _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 2 05:29:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 05:29:00 -0000 Subject: Latest XFree86/cygwin strange behavoir In-Reply-To: <16377705702.20021129210957@serebryakov.spb.ru> Message-ID: Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello cygwin-xfree, > > (1) Could I pass some option to Xwin.exe, that prevents it from > resetting after last client? I don't have any X clients except > `xhost' ob my very poor windows machine, and I could not use > xhost, because after it disconnection X server resets and > forgets about added host :) -noreset bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 2 08:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 08:43:00 -0000 Subject: fvwm-2.4.7-2 install missing /usr/local/etc/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc? References: <000001c2978f$3274ad20$baa30c80@springbok> Message-ID: <3DEAACFE.20509@msu.edu> Michael, Maintainership of fvwm is yours if you want it. Harold Michael Bax wrote: > In followup to my earlier message: > > >>INSTALL.fvwm from the fvwm source tarfile (fvwm.org) suggests >>copying system.fvwm2rc to /usr/local/etc/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc >>to provide a system default. This file does not appear to be >>present in the Cygwin package, but it seems that installing >>this file to the correct place would be the most transparent >>way to streamline fvwm setup. > > > The Cygwin version of fvwm2 appears to be configured slightly > differently from the default. The appropriate directories for > system.fvwm2rc are > ${datadir}/fvwm --> /usr/X11R6/share/fvwm > and > ${sysconfdir} --> /etc (why not /usr/local/etc or even > /etc/X11?) > > As a possible alternative to supplying this default configuration file, > what about installing fwwm-icons along with a configuration > pre-generated by FvwmScript-Setup95? > > Cheers > Michael > From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Mon Dec 2 09:10:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:10:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1038556506.3de71d5aa0147@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> References: <1038556506.3de71d5aa0147@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Message-ID: <3DEAED91.9080907@email-server.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > Well, how is xkbcomp.exe called, so that it segfault? Does really nobody have an idea? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From graham.bloice@trihedral.com Mon Dec 2 15:07:00 2002 From: graham.bloice@trihedral.com (Graham Bloice) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:07:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 Message-ID: Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. Regards, Graham Bloice From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 3 00:04:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:04:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEAED91.9080907@email-server.info> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > Well, how is xkbcomp.exe called, so that it segfault? > > Does really nobody have an idea? There are some commandlines for xkbcomp in the archives. AFAIR the xkbcomp is called in a similar way from the server. try this one: xkbcomp -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From moser@decodon.com Tue Dec 3 01:15:00 2002 From: moser@decodon.com (Frank-Michael Moser) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 01:15:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEB8D94.70309@decodon.com> Graham Bloice wrote: > Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named > app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib > post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. So finally we got the culprit ;) which was already discussed in that thread: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00200.html http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00216.html -- ------------------------------------------------------------ DECODON GmbH phone: +49(0)3834 515231 W.-Rathenau-Str. 49a fax: +49(0)3834 515239 17489 Greifswald email: moser@decodon.com Germany web: www.decodon.com ------------------------------------------------------------ From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Tue Dec 3 06:32:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: <3DEAED91.9080907@email-server.info> Message-ID: <20021202171000.GC31538@teich.Garten.DigitalProjects.com> So sprach Alexander Gottwald am 2002-12-02 um 14:29:24 +0100 : > try this one: > xkbcomp -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm Okay, it also segfaults. I've called it from a DOS cmd prompt like this: strace --output=c:\temp\2xkb-strace.txt c:\cygwin\etc\X11\xkb\xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de4.xkm Please see the strace output at http://message-center.info/stuff/2xkb-strace.txt). /tmp/de4.xkm did not get created. xkbcomp also seg faults with STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION, when I call it from the Cygwin bash shell. Any further ideas about why xkbcomp segfaults? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 3 days 23 hours 6 minutes From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 3 06:32:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <20021202171000.GC31538@teich.Garten.DigitalProjects.com> Message-ID: Alexander Skwar wrote: > Please see the strace output at > http://message-center.info/stuff/2xkb-strace.txt). /tmp/de4.xkm did not > get created. xkbcomp also seg faults with STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION, when > I call it from the Cygwin bash shell. I've took a look on the trace, but could not find anything that seemed to be the cause for the crash. The last action was close() on /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86, so I'd suggest installing all files in /etc/X11/xkb again. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From danilo.turina@alcatel.it Tue Dec 3 10:11:00 2002 From: danilo.turina@alcatel.it (Danilo Turina) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:11:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEC6575.5000509@alcatel.it> Finally, I understand why, at some point, all the app-defaults disappeared. I had to fix them manually, now I know the cause. Graham Bloice wrote: > Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named > app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib > post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. > > Regards, > > Graham Bloice > > > From danilo.turina@alcatel.it Tue Dec 3 11:06:00 2002 From: danilo.turina@alcatel.it (Danilo Turina) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 11:06:00 -0000 Subject: Installing LessTif breaks XFree86 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEC6575.5000509@alcatel.it> Finally, I understand why, at some point, all the app-defaults disappeared. I had to fix them manually, now I know the cause. Graham Bloice wrote: > Installing LessTif-0.93.18-3 creates a directory in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 named > app-defaults. This overrides the symbolic link placed there by XFree86-lib > post install pointing to /etc/X11. Amongst other things this breaks XCalc. > > Regards, > > Graham Bloice > > > From proven_r@teleadmin.com Tue Dec 3 12:47:00 2002 From: proven_r@teleadmin.com (proven_r@teleadmin.com) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:47:00 -0000 Subject: trouble with xfree Message-ID: hi i am a newbies with cygwin and need some help. i have install with sucess cygwin and xfree and sshd on 2 computers and i try lunch by ssh a distant process on xfree as explain in Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide. i do (inside xterm in xfree of coursse) the ssh -X -l administrateur 192.168.0.19 it's works but i get the msg : Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. then i try lunch a "distant" cession of xterm: /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm& and i get the error msg : X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). for information i have try uncomment the lines about X11 forwarding (sshd_config) on the cygwin sshd server on the distant host to. I have try with the line disabled or enabled for getting the same result. my sshd_config : # This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file. See # sshd_config(5) for more information. # This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a # default value. Port 22 #Protocol 2,1 #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress :: # HostKey for protocol version 1 #HostKey /etc/ssh_host_key # HostKeys for protocol version 2 #HostKey /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key #HostKey /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key #KeyRegenerationInterval 3600 #ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging #obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging #SyslogFacility AUTH #LogLevel INFO # Authentication: #LoginGraceTime 120 #PermitRootLogin yes # The following setting overrides permission checks on host key files # and directories. For security reasons set this to "yes" when running # NT/W2K, NTFS and CYGWIN=ntsec. StrictModes no #RSAAuthentication yes PubkeyAuthentication yes AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/authorized_keys (i preffer use the pub key authentication but i don't think it can be the trouble) # rhosts authentication should not be used #RhostsAuthentication no # Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files #IgnoreRhosts yes # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts #RhostsRSAAuthentication no # similar for protocol version 2 #HostbasedAuthentication no # Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for # RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication #IgnoreUserKnownHosts no # To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here! #PasswordAuthentication yes #PermitEmptyPasswords no # Change to no to disable s/key passwords #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes X11Forwarding yes (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) X11DisplayOffset 10 (try disable or enable this line) X11UseLocalhost yes (try disable or enable this line) PrintMotd yes (try disable or enable this line) PrintLastLog yes (try disable or enable this line) KeepAlive yes (try disable or enable this line) UseLogin no (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) UsePrivilegeSeparation yes (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) PermitUserEnvironment yes (here i have try yes or no) (try disable or enable this line) Compression yes #MaxStartups 10 # no default banner path #Banner /some/path #VerifyReverseMapping no # override default of no subsystems Subsystem sftp /usr/sbin/sftp-server Please if you see where is the trouble , explain it to a poor newbies as me. thanks a lot friendly Provencal romain 10 rue du docteur roux 75015 0147342757 0609846053 From RRitchie680@cs.com Tue Dec 3 13:24:00 2002 From: RRitchie680@cs.com (Rob Ritchie) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:24:00 -0000 Subject: , new information... 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Insurance Agents like me are constantly having to evaluate new products, new hybrids, etc. I wanted to let you know about one of these "newish" products -- life insurance that actually includes provisions (in the form of riders) for long-term care. Is this a good deal? Well, it depends. But, to be honest, if you are looking for something that will cover your expenses if you need to be cared for on a long-term basis, life insurance is a poor substitute for long-term care coverage. Life insurance with long-term care riders offers two options: 1) An acceleration rider that allows you to get an advance on your death benefit; and, 2) an extension that increases the benefit to provide for long- term care expenses. These riders vary by company, with some allowing you to collect a percentage of the death benefit each month and others that reimburse your policy for long-term care expenses you incur, thereby keeping your death benefit the same. There are two potential problems with the riders: * Some of them require substantial deterioration in your health before you can collect benefits. * They don't have monthly benefits that pay anywhere near the full costs you would incur for long-term care. As an example, a one-year stay in a nursing home can cost anywhere from $30,000 to $60,000 or more, depending on the level of care you need. Long-term care options in life insurance likely won't provide more than a fraction of these amounts. Despite this, the long-term care rider in life insurance could be an option for people with a fairly high income level and significant assets. Again, I hope everything is going well! Sincerely, Rob Ritchie www.RRitchie-Ins.com RRitchie680@cs.com PS: Friend, please call our office if you have any questions about life insurance, term or otherwise - or any other part of your financial planning and protection. Or you can email me. Just hit "reply" and send me a message. I'll get back to you as soon as I can! __________________________________________________________________ To modify your subscriber options or stop future messages, click below: http://www.friendlyemails.com/u.asp?s=165441 From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Dec 3 13:39:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:39:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, J S wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > When I try to run the command: > > > > XWin -query smpd9 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > > > that brings up the solaris xdmcp session if I'm running XFree86 on win >XP/2K > > or NT. But if I try to run this on windows 95, it bombs out. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Good. A very short error description with nearly no information. > >What's in /tmp/XWin.log >What does xdm tell >Is there any network traffic > > > Is this because Xfree86 doesn't support XDMCP on Windows 95? > >It does support windows 95. > >bye > ago The Xwin.log says: Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't any errors in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config /usr/openwin/lib/xdm/xdm-config-debug /dev/fb: No such file or directory Graphics Adapter device /dev/fb is of unknown type Fatal server error: InitOutput: Error loading module for /dev/fb XKillClient 0x80019a XKillClient 0x80019c XKillClient 0x8001a2 .. .. ignoring error ignoring error ignoring error .. .. XKillClient 0x40000e before XSync pseudoReset done done secure a57558.abc.com:0 xdm error (pid 13048): fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) ignoring error Tried the above a couple more times and it fired up the logon screen on the windows 95 machine, but I couldn't really tell from that why running the xdm from the win95 machine was failing. There weren't any errors produced in the logs either. Is the error above about the Graphics Adapter device significant? Anyway I did a snoop and there's definitely network traffic going on. Any more suggestions? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 3 13:43:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Fatal server error: > XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address > > And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't any errors > in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: > > xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config Why this port? The default port is 177. > /usr/openwin/lib/xdm/xdm-config-debug > > /dev/fb: No such file or directory > Graphics Adapter device /dev/fb is of unknown type > > Fatal server error: > InitOutput: Error loading module for /dev/fb > XKillClient 0x80019a > XKillClient 0x80019c > XKillClient 0x8001a2 > .. > .. > ignoring error > ignoring error > ignoring error > .. > .. > XKillClient 0x40000e > before XSync > pseudoReset done > done secure a57558.abc.com:0 > xdm error (pid 13048): fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) > ignoring error I can't find any hint which address was sent to xdm. But the "session declined" is similar to some errors with win95 we had some time ago. Can you please get http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ls_netdev.tar.gz, extract it and send me the output of ls_netdev-w95.exe? > Tried the above a couple more times and it fired up the logon screen on the > windows 95 machine, but I couldn't really tell from that why running the xdm > from the win95 machine was failing. There weren't any errors produced in the > logs either. Is the error above about the Graphics Adapter device > significant? I guess the is a local display configured in /etc/.../xdm/Xservers > Anyway I did a snoop and there's definitely network traffic going on. NP: grauzone.02-12-02 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Dec 3 15:14:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:14:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Gottwald a ??crit??: > J S wrote: > > > Fatal server error: > > XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address > > > > And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't > any errors > > in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: > > > > xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config > > Why this port? The default port is 177. Alexander, this exactly Microsoft problem : M$ is building its products thinking all people is using defaults, hiding some bugs that appear only in some cases. Lets f*ck the student case ! We're in real life ! ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 3 15:21:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > > > xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config > > > > Why this port? The default port is 177. > Alexander, this exactly Microsoft problem : M$ is building its products > thinking all people is using defaults, hiding some bugs that appear > only in some cases. If I'm researching a problem, I try to reduce the number of possible failure points. A nondefault port for xdm is such a failure point. Was Xwin started with the correct parameter to reflect this nondefault port? If I could charge the user for support minutes, I would be happy if he would make the problem difficult to solve. You know why I've found that bug in cygwin with win95? Because I've read the documentation. All those man pages, MSDN, FAQ, webpages. I found the error and made a patch. But a lot of questions on this list could be easily solved if the users would read the documentation. bye ago NP: grauzone.02-12-02 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 3 15:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:30:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> Sylvain, I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would have been sufficient, right? Harold Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > --- Alexander Gottwald a > ??crit : > J S wrote: > >>>Fatal server error: >>>XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address >>> >>>And yes I have read the FAQ and used the -from flag. There aren't >> >>any errors >> >>>in the xdm logs, so I tried to run the xdm in debug: >>> >>>xdm -udpPort 6556 -nodaemon -debug 10 -config >> >>Why this port? The default port is 177. > > Alexander, this exactly Microsoft problem : M$ is building its products > thinking all people is using defaults, hiding some bugs that appear > only in some cases. > > Lets f*ck the student case ! We're in real life ! > > ===== > Sylvain Petreolle > spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net > Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html > ICQ #170597259 > > "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. > > ___________________________________________________________ > Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. > http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Tue Dec 3 15:33:00 2002 From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:33:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> References: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021203214025.GB16457@redhat.com> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >have been sufficient, right? AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined attitude. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 3 19:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 19:05:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: <20021203204730.13014.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> <3DED2326.4000908@msu.edu> <20021203214025.GB16457@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3DED258B.2000703@msu.edu> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. Harold Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>have been sufficient, right? > > > AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is > confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone > know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. > > In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was > perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined > attitude. > > cgf From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Dec 3 19:47:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 19:47:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: > >Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >our messages. That's all. > >Harold > >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the case, >>>then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would have been >>>sufficient, right? >> >> >>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >> >>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>attitude. >> >>cgf Hi Everyone, Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being used by other people . I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? Thanks for the help, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Dec 4 04:22:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 04:22:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <3DED258B.2000703@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021203232119.50040.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> You're correct, I should have said 'product foo'... I took Microsoft as example because it was the first company I had in mind. I don't have anything against Microsoft, otherwise I wouldn't use Cygwin ;) In the company I'm working now, almost every network TCP port is customized. What I wanted to say is : If the port 1234 is used with some X servers with XDMCP and it crashes, some online customer helpdesk will say : "You don't use standard XDMCP port, I can't do anything for you. Get lost." I don't want Cygwin-Xfree to do the same. --- Harold L Hunt II a ??crit : > Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a > good > contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly > reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone > down our messages. That's all. > > Harold > > Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > >>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The > default > >>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has > > >>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the > > >>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 > would > >>have been sufficient, right? > > > > > > AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone > is > > confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting > everyone > > know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that > way. > > > > In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response > was > > perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some > imagined > > attitude. > > > > cgf > ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 04:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 04:27:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: <20021203232119.50040.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3DED3E96.1090609@msu.edu> Ah ha... okay, but in this case it would be good to at least rule out the non-standard port as a possible culprit. Once the port is ruled out, we can move on to other possible solutions. Harold Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > You're correct, I should have said 'product foo'... > I took Microsoft as example because it was the first company I had in > mind. I don't have anything against Microsoft, otherwise I wouldn't use > Cygwin ;) > > In the company I'm working now, almost every network TCP port is > customized. What I wanted to say is : > If the port 1234 is used with some X servers with XDMCP and it crashes, > some online customer helpdesk will say : "You don't use standard XDMCP > port, I can't do anything for you. Get lost." I don't want Cygwin-Xfree > to do the same. > > > --- Harold L Hunt II a ??crit : > >>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >>good >>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone >>down our messages. That's all. >> >>Harold >> >>Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>> >>default >> >>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>> >>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>> >>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 >>> >>would >> >>>>have been sufficient, right? >>> >>> >>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone >> >>is >> >>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >> >>everyone >> >>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that >> >>way. >> >>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response >> >>was >> >>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >> >>imagined >> >>>attitude. >>> >>>cgf >> >> > > > ===== > Sylvain Petreolle > spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net > Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html > ICQ #170597259 > > "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. > > ___________________________________________________________ > Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. > http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 05:01:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 05:01:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: Message-ID: <3DED3F64.9030801@msu.edu> Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: XDMCP OPTIONS X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification for more information. -query host-name Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- fied host. -broadcast Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets to the network. The first responding display man- ager will be chosen for the session. -indirect host-name Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the specified host. -port port-num Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or -indirect options. Thus, you would do something like: XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 Harold J S wrote: > > > > >> >> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >> good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a >> friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >> sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >> >> Harold >> >> Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>> >>>> I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>> default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>> Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If >>>> that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses >>>> port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>> >>> >>> >>> AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>> confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>> know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>> >>> In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>> perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>> attitude. >>> >>> cgf >> > > Hi Everyone, > > Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... > The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was > because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being > used by other people . > > I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 > machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the > other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect > to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? > > Thanks for the help, > > JS. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Dec 4 06:40:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 06:40:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <20021204024040.GA20448@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20021204030500.65942.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> That's exactly what I have read in Alexander's answer: => Why this port? The default port is 177. Excuse me. > Your response would be barely understandable if someone had said "Hey > don't use a non-standard port!" but given that there was no hint of > that > in Alexander's response and it was very obvious that he was trying to > help I think the chiding tone of your message was misplaced. I think > maybe you should go back and read what you were responding to again. > Maybe you missed that fact. ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Soyez solidaire soutenez l??action du T??l??thon avec Yahoo! France. http://www1.telethon.fr/030-Espace-Relais-Dons/webtirelire1.asp?hebergeur_id=1309 From cgf@redhat.com Wed Dec 4 06:44:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 06:44:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <20021204030500.65942.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021204024040.GA20448@redhat.com> <20021204030500.65942.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021204034804.GA21728@redhat.com> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 04:05:00AM +0100, Sylvain Petreolle wrote: >That's exactly what I have read in Alexander's answer: >=> Why this port? The default port is 177. >Excuse me. Um, that was a private message. Poor netiquette, there. cgf From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 4 07:33:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039004871.3dedf4c782dfb@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hello Alexander! Zitat von Alexander Gottwald : > I've took a look on the trace, but could not find anything that seemed Thanks. > to be the cause for the crash. The last action was close() on > /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86, so I'd suggest installing all files in > /etc/X11/xkb again. I've deleted C:\cygwin and installed XFree-base and all of its dependencies again from the Internet. Same result; xkb still crashs. So I don't think it's the fault of xkb.exe but something's broken on my side - however I do not know what it might be. If somebody knows what this could be - or if someone at least has some hints about how I might find out what's wrong on my system - I'd be VERY happy! Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 07:33:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: Thanks, I tried specifying the port but nothing happened (incidentally the port number goes before the -query). I'm at a bit of a loss now as everyone on this list says that they can run xdmcp on windows 95, but I can't. Yet I can get it to run on win NT, 2000 and XP. The problem MUST then surely be related to something on windows 95. What else can I try to debug this? JS. >Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >XDMCP OPTIONS > X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. > See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification > for more information. > > -query host-name > Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- > fied host. > > -broadcast > Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets > to the network. The first responding display man- > ager will be chosen for the session. > > -indirect host-name > Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the > specified host. > > -port port-num > Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. > Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or > -indirect options. > > >Thus, you would do something like: >XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > >Harold > >J S wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >>>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >>>our messages. That's all. >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>>>>have been sufficient, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>> >>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>>>attitude. >>>> >>>>cgf >>> >> >>Hi Everyone, >> >>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>used by other people . >> >>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine >>from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way >>round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm >>debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? >> >>Thanks for the help, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Wed Dec 4 07:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:35:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1039004871.3dedf4c782dfb@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> from "Alexander Skwar" at Dec 4, 2002 01:27:51 pm Message-ID: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Alexander, You have, of course, run a file search on your machine for cygwin1.dll, right? If you have more than one copy of cygwin1.dll, then you have problems. Harold > > Hello Alexander! > > Zitat von Alexander Gottwald : > > > I've took a look on the trace, but could not find anything that seemed > > Thanks. > > > to be the cause for the crash. The last action was close() on > > /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86, so I'd suggest installing all files in > > /etc/X11/xkb again. > > I've deleted C:\cygwin and installed XFree-base and all of its dependencies > again from the Internet. Same result; xkb still crashs. So I don't think > it's the fault of xkb.exe but something's broken on my side - however I do > not know what it might be. > > If somebody knows what this could be - or if someone at least has some > hints about how I might find out what's wrong on my system - I'd be VERY > happy! > > Thanks a lot, > > Alexander Skwar > -- > How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) > Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de > iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > From serhanbakir@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 07:38:00 2002 From: serhanbakir@hotmail.com (Serhan BAKIR) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:38:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin, turkish how to ? Message-ID: Hi, I've read the FAQ at Cygwin/XFree86 site to figure out how to map the keyboard inorder to use Turkish characters under X. As its said I've created the file 'xmodmap.trq' using xkeycaps at my redhat 7.3 box and copied it to my Cygwin directory under windows. After mapping with xmodmap program it seemed to be working. Altough not being able to type Turkish characters in bash, using xev and xtrapchar showed me that keys are working fine but missing Turkish fonts. So I got the fonts called XFree86-ISO8859-9-2.1.2-10.noarch.tgz XFree86-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-2.1.2-10.noarch.tgz XFree86-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-2.1.2-10.noarch.tgz lat5-16.psfu.gz put them into respective directories ( C:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts\...) But couldn't find the utility or script which will activate them. What should I do to see the Turkish fonts. I hope the problem is clear and easy to manage. Thank you very much for your helps... Serhan BAKIR _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 4 08:03:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:03:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hello Harrold, Zitat von Harold Leatherman Hunt II : > You have, of course, run a file search on your machine for cygwin1.dll, In fact, I haven't. I just did, and found the following files: /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/cygwin alt/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin halb okay/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/Klappt, aber noch zu gro??/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll /cygdrive/c/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll However, only C:\cygwin\bin is in my %PATH%. The other files shouldn't hurt, should they? I'll remove those files and try again. Well Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 08:11:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:11:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: Hi, I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can connect to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like xclock I get: $ xclock Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 $ Xwin.log says: AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP 164.52.227.249 port 42421 I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is there anything else I should try? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 08:13:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Message-ID: <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> Yup, those other copies of cygwin1.dll certainly can hurt. They don't even have to be in your path. They just have to be loaded by some program that you did not realize is based on Cygwin. It looks like you did your search within Cygwin. Might I recommend that you use Windows Explorer's Search functionality to perform the search? Tell it to search all local drives. Perhaps they will find the same set of files, but I do the search with Windows and I would rather just have you run the search than for me to have to babble on and think hard about stuff... Harold Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hello Harrold, > > Zitat von Harold Leatherman Hunt II : > > >>You have, of course, run a file search on your machine for cygwin1.dll, > > > In fact, I haven't. I just did, and found the following files: > > /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/cygwin alt/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin halb okay/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin Installationen/Klappt, aber noch zu > gro??/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll > /cygdrive/c/cygwin mit allem/bin/cygwin1.dll > > However, only C:\cygwin\bin is in my %PATH%. The other files shouldn't > hurt, should they? > > I'll remove those files and try again. > > Well > > Thanks a lot, > > Alexander Skwar From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 08:19:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEE20B1.1030904@msu.edu> JS, Run: xhost 164.52.227.249 I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. Harold J S wrote: > Hi, > > I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC > running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can > connect to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like > xclock I get: > > $ xclock > Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 > $ > > Xwin.log says: > > AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP > 164.52.227.249 port 42421 > > I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the > solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. > > Is there anything else I should try? > > Thanks, > > JS. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 08:41:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:41:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: Thanks, I tried that, but still no luck. >JS, > >Run: >xhost 164.52.227.249 > >I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC >>running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can connect >>to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like xclock I get: >> >>$ xclock >>Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server >>Xlib: No protocol specified >> >>Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 >>$ >> >>Xwin.log says: >> >>AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP >>164.52.227.249 port 42421 >> >>I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the >>solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. >> >>Is there anything else I should try? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >> _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 11:17:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:17:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: I'm doing xwin& xhost +& Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. >JS, > >Run: >xhost 164.52.227.249 > >I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC >>running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can connect >>to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like xclock I get: >> >>$ xclock >>Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server >>Xlib: No protocol specified >> >>Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 >>$ >> >>Xwin.log says: >> >>AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP >>164.52.227.249 port 42421 >> >>I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the >>solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. >> >>Is there anything else I should try? >> >>Thanks, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >> _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Dec 4 11:23:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:23:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEE2947.60207@msu.edu> Hmm... I think you might have to set DISPLAY before running ``xhost +''. That seems to be your problem. Remember, xhost is an X Client, so it has to know what display it is trying to set the security for. Harold J S wrote: > > > I'm doing > > xwin& > xhost +& > > Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. > However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. > >> JS, >> >> Run: >> xhost 164.52.227.249 >> >> I won't guarantee that it will work, but you should certainly try it. >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have one solaris box which isn't able to run X client apps on my PC >>> running XFree86 eventhough I've done an 'xhost +'. Other boxes can >>> connect to me with no problem. Everytime I try to run something like >>> xclock I get: >>> >>> $ xclock >>> Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server >>> Xlib: No protocol specified >>> >>> Error: Can't open display: a217447d.abc.com:0 >>> $ >>> >>> Xwin.log says: >>> >>> AUDIT: Wed Dec 4 15:22:11 2002: 1504 xwin: client 1 rejected from IP >>> 164.52.227.249 port 42421 >>> >>> I've tried deleting the .Xauthority file in my home directory on the >>> solaris box but this doesn't seem to have made any difference. >>> >>> Is there anything else I should try? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> JS. >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Dec 4 14:17:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:17:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > I'm doing > > xwin& > xhost +& > > Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. > However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. This is a known problem. After the the client disconnects from the server, it is reset. Since xhost the only client, the xserver will right after xhost finished reset again and also reset the xhost settings. You can avoid this by always having another client connected (eg a local window manager, or a xterm) and then do host +. Or you can switch off the accesscontrol at startup by adding the "-ac" parameter to the XWin commandline. Security note: I do not recomend xhost + and the -ac parameter since they completely turn off the access control. Anybody on the network is then able to connect to your Xserver and may run programs which trace all keyboard input (think of secret passwords). The much better solution is starting a local ssh client with X-Forwarding DISPLAY=127.0.0.1 ssh -X remotehost and use the _encrypted_ X11 tunnel of ssh. ssh will do all things needed for correct access control bye ago From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 19:02:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 19:02:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: connection to "a217447d.abc.com:0.0" refused by server Message-ID: Thanks Alex, that's fixed it! >On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > > > > > I'm doing > > > > xwin& > > xhost +& > > > > Then, after setting my DISPLAY, running xclock. > > However if I run the window manager the xclock is displayed. > >This is a known problem. After the the client disconnects from the server, >it is reset. Since xhost the only client, the xserver will right after >xhost >finished reset again and also reset the xhost settings. You can avoid this >by always having another client connected (eg a local window manager, or >a xterm) and then do host +. Or you can switch off the accesscontrol at >startup by adding the "-ac" parameter to the XWin commandline. > >Security note: >I do not recomend xhost + and the -ac parameter since they completely turn >off >the access control. Anybody on the network is then able to connect to your >Xserver and may run programs which trace all keyboard input (think of >secret >passwords). >The much better solution is starting a local ssh client with X-Forwarding >DISPLAY=127.0.0.1 ssh -X remotehost >and use the _encrypted_ X11 tunnel of ssh. ssh will do all things needed >for >correct access control > >bye > ago _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 20:25:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:25:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: I tried using the -ac on here as well but it didn't work :( JS. >Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >XDMCP OPTIONS > X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. > See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification > for more information. > > -query host-name > Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- > fied host. > > -broadcast > Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets > to the network. The first responding display man- > ager will be chosen for the session. > > -indirect host-name > Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the > specified host. > > -port port-num > Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. > Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or > -indirect options. > > >Thus, you would do something like: >XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > >Harold > >J S wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >>>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >>>our messages. That's all. >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>>>>have been sufficient, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>> >>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>>>attitude. >>>> >>>>cgf >>> >> >>Hi Everyone, >> >>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>used by other people . >> >>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine >>from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way >>round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm >>debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? >> >>Thanks for the help, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Wed Dec 4 23:28:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:28:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Yup, those other copies of cygwin1.dll certainly can hurt. They don't > even have to be in your path. They just have to be loaded by some > program that you did not realize is based on Cygwin. Hi. I've now deleted those files and am only left with C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll aka. /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll aka. /bin/cygwin1.dll. Sadly, deleting the files didn't change anything. > It looks like you did your search within Cygwin. Might I recommend that > you use Windows Explorer's Search functionality to perform the search? > Tell it to search all local drives. Perhaps they will find the same set > of files, but I do the search with Windows and I would rather just have > you run the search than for me to have to babble on and think hard about > stuff... ? Actually, I'm *much* more comfortable with "find" and other console tools than with this Windows GUI junk. Anyhow, Explorer did not find anything else. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 5 05:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 05:05:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> Message-ID: <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> You have, of course, rebooted your machine? Harold Alexander Skwar wrote: > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >> Yup, those other copies of cygwin1.dll certainly can hurt. They don't >> even have to be in your path. They just have to be loaded by some >> program that you did not realize is based on Cygwin. > > > Hi. > > I've now deleted those files and am only left with > C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll aka. /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/cygwin1.dll aka. > /bin/cygwin1.dll. Sadly, deleting the files didn't change anything. > >> It looks like you did your search within Cygwin. Might I recommend >> that you use Windows Explorer's Search functionality to perform the >> search? Tell it to search all local drives. Perhaps they will find >> the same set of files, but I do the search with Windows and I would >> rather just have you run the search than for me to have to babble on >> and think hard about stuff... > > > ? Actually, I'm *much* more comfortable with "find" and other console > tools than with this Windows GUI junk. Anyhow, Explorer did not find > anything else. > > Alexander Skwar From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Thu Dec 5 06:22:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 06:22:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DEE7EEA.1020200@email-server.info> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > You have, of course, rebooted your machine? Yes, for sure. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From hyoung@operamail.com Thu Dec 5 09:56:00 2002 From: hyoung@operamail.com (Hansom Young) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages Message-ID: <20021205030159.14401.qmail@operamail.com> Hi, Now you can download some prebuilt packages from http://www.sourceforge.net/project/cygnome Currently only core libraries and a brunch of applications are available I've packaged all the core libraries into a single tarball cygnome-libs_1.4b1-x.tar.bz2 The same to cygnome-apps. But lib*.a in cygnome-libs-devel were stupidly stripped by me. (I'm a really newbie,) So at present you can not build GNOME application by yourself with it. This sunday I'll upload the other packages, including almost the whole GNOME 1.4 desktop (except Nautilus) and Sawfish, gnumeric etc. Note: In fact, nearly all the packages are built with the hints and patches distributed by Steven O'Brien at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2. All that I did are just building them, packaging them and uploading then there. (That doesn't mean he is responsible for the bugs and defects in this port). Still is there no one would like to help me? Sorry for the AD of operamail. Regards Hansom ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisi Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:57:52 +0200 To: hyoung@operamail.com Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages > Hi Hansom, > > I am definitely interested in a cygwin GNOME binary, like the KDE binary > which is available on sourceforge using the standard cygwin setup.exe (but > I have not yet managed to get running properly on Win98). Could you please > keep us updated, maybe by posting back on the list, when your port is > available for download? > > Thanks, > > -Lisi > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 5 11:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:32:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <002b01c293d3$d73da880$0101a8c0@lin> Message-ID: Kensuke, Very interesting patch. I have compiled a version of the multiwindow executable and checked it out. Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I have something go wrong with my patching? Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Kensuke Matsuzaki Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:09 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Rootless mode Hello, I am writing code for rootless mode. It creates Windows window for each X Window. I add "-multiwindow" option. With this I can use taskbar, move and resize window. But this sometimes does strange behaivor, and code is not clean. It seems to be difficult for me to write complete rootless mode, so those who are interested, please help. Kensuke Matsuzaki From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 5 11:41:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:41:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: References: <002b01c293d3$d73da880$0101a8c0@lin> Message-ID: Harold, It remains only for debugging. > Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is > not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I > have something go wrong with my patching? By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window manager. Kensuke Matsuzaki -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: rootless.patch.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11749 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 5 11:43:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:43:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession Message-ID: Hi, When I run /usr/dt/bin/dtsession (CDE) on XFree86 from a Solaris box, I can't get xwinclip to work. If I try to highlight some text by dragging the mouse over it, the highlight keeps flashing and and as soon as I release my mouse button the highlight goes as well. However if I run the /usr/dt/bin/Xsession, xwinclip does work, but the problem is when I start Xsession the startup screen keeps flashing until the desktop is loaded. Rgds, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Thu Dec 5 12:30:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:30:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate keystrokes Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A59059D3DC4@ACDFWX2.acd.de.ittind.com> Hello, I have noticed that my keystrokes are sometimes duplicated, invisibly. It happens in remote xterms, using ssh, usually when I am in gdb. 1. I run XWin in rootless mode on my desktop, with the ssh-agent in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh enabled. 2. Then I ssh(-add) into a remote Linux node, where I run gdb in an xterm on another Linux node. 3. I get duplicate commands/keystrokes in the above xterm/gdb session. Does anyone have similar experience? This message http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html seems to discuss a similar problem in a different context. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From Karel.Pienaar@morganstanley.com Thu Dec 5 14:36:00 2002 From: Karel.Pienaar@morganstanley.com (Karel Pienaar) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 14:36:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Windows ME and InfoExpress VSClient VPN Softrware Message-ID: <3DEF9353.C7B322EE@morganstanley.com> Machine is AMD Athlon 1.4 GHZ, Video = ATI RADEON ALL IN WONDER 7200, Windows ME with all latest patches etc. If I run the xserver without starting the VPN software, it runs just fine with great performance, however, as soon as I log onto my employer using the VPN software, it comes to a grinding halt. It is so slow that it is basically unusable. I really hope it is possible to make it work, because I think it is a great product and I would really like to use it. Thanks Karel From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Thu Dec 5 15:06:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 15:06:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate keystrokes In-Reply-To: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A59059D3DC4@ACDFWX2.acd.de.ittind.com> from "Virgilio, Vincent" at Dec 5, 2002 09:22:32 am Message-ID: <200212051932.gB5JW8S06186@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Vince, Yes, there are occasionally duplicated keystrokes. Unfortunately, as my February email describes (which I thank you for finding on your own and putting a link in your email), the problem is not trivial to solve. We will only gain new information and insight into this problem by spending about 20 hours carefully diagnosing the problem. I have already done that once and I hit a dead-end and was unable to find the source of the duplicated keystrokes. I am nut sure that I will ever find the source of the duplicated keystrokes on my own, so it is probably better for someone else to give it a try now. Good luck if you go for it, Harold > > Hello, > > I have noticed that my keystrokes are sometimes duplicated, invisibly. It > happens in remote xterms, using ssh, usually when I am in gdb. > > 1. I run XWin in rootless mode on my desktop, with the ssh-agent in > /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh enabled. > > 2. Then I ssh(-add) into a remote Linux node, where I run gdb in an xterm on > another Linux node. > > 3. I get duplicate commands/keystrokes in the above xterm/gdb session. > > Does anyone have similar experience? > > This message http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html > seems to discuss a similar problem in a different context. > > Regards, > > Vince Virgilio > > ************************************ > If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the > delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may > contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not > copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and > kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this > message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by > nor attributable to ITT. > ************************************ > > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Thu Dec 5 21:37:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 21:37:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with Windows ME and InfoExpress VSClient VPN Softrware In-Reply-To: <3DEF9353.C7B322EE@morganstanley.com> from "Karel Pienaar" at Dec 5, 2002 11:56:35 am Message-ID: <200212051941.gB5JfJg83670@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Karel, Okay, there are two suspect points here: 1) ATI All In Wonder 7200 2) Your VPN Software ATI All In Wonder 7200 ====================== I recently had purchased an ATI All In Wonder 8500DV, which was a beautiful piece of equipment. However, the stock video drivers resulted in stuttering video playback (DVDs), dropped frames during recording video, and horrible, unusably slow performance in Cygwin/XFree86 when using DirectDraw-based engines. In addition, my machine froze whenever I tried to print a PDF from Adobe Acrobat and in various other situations. I installed Windows XP, thinking that Windows 2000 may have a problem with the card. However, Windows XP froze during setup if I moved the mouse. I managed to get Windows XP installed with only the keyboard, but the mouse still froze the computer when it was moved after Windows XP was fully installed. I updated the video drivers but the problem persisted. I then exchanged the video card, with the same results. I immediately realized that my IWILL motherboard was probably to blame, with its less than perfect AGP support, along with the fact that this was the first AGP video card I had used on the motherboard. So, I ordered a new ASUS motherboard for $130, figuring that would solve the problem. Then the fiance found out. The motherboard order was promptly cancelled amidst my grovelling :) We returned the video card and I then tested each of 5 old PCI video cards I have to find the one of them that does not produce interfence patterns on my 19 inch LCD monitor that we just picked up a few weeks ago. I am now unhappily using a 5 year old PCI video card that only supports 16 bit color at 1280 x 1024. Bummer. To make a long story short, your video drivers or your motherboard may be a culprit. VPN Software ============ Most VPN software replaces all or parts of the Windows TCP/IP stack, upon which Cygwin/XFree86 relies heavily. A lot of the VPN Software vendors are not experts on TCP/IP and they make some compromises in performance that they do not think will affect many users. Unfortunately, they are wrong, and their software does not work well with Cygwin/XFree86. There isn't much we can do about this other than to tell you to get some better VPN Software and to test it with all of your apps before you roll it out organization wide. I hope that helps. Harold > > Machine is AMD Athlon 1.4 GHZ, Video = ATI RADEON ALL IN WONDER 7200, > Windows ME with all latest patches etc. > > If I run the xserver without starting the VPN software, it runs just > fine with great performance, however, as soon as I log onto my employer > using the VPN software, it comes to a grinding halt. It is so slow that > it is basically unusable. > > I really hope it is possible to make it work, because I think it is a > great product and I would really like to use it. > > Thanks > Karel > > > > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Dec 6 00:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 00:28:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: from "Kensuke Matsuzaki" at Dec 5, 2002 04:28:26 pm Message-ID: <200212051943.gB5JhNV88012@pilot09.cl.msu.edu> Kensuke, Excellent. I will try to take a look at this patch tonight. I was hoping that the window manager would eventually be integrated into XWin.exe and I am interested in seeing how you did this. Thanks for your great patches. By the way, was your new patch a diff against the original CVS tree or against a tree that has already had your last patch applied? I noticed that your last patch was against an older version of some files in the CVS tree. 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to use it. Which VPN software is it? What happens if you fire up the xserver after the VPN software? (Assumed you fired it up before). And is it local xterms that goes slow or? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 04:07:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession Message-ID: Are there any other ways to do copying and pasting in XFree86 other than using XWinclip? >Hi, > >When I run /usr/dt/bin/dtsession (CDE) on XFree86 from a Solaris box, I >can't get xwinclip to work. If I try to highlight some text by dragging the >mouse over it, the highlight keeps flashing and and as soon as I release my >mouse button the highlight goes as well. > >However if I run the /usr/dt/bin/Xsession, xwinclip does work, but the >problem is when I start Xsession the startup screen keeps flashing until >the desktop is loaded. > >Rgds, > >JS. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 6 04:36:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:36:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Are there any other ways to do copying and pasting in XFree86 other than > using XWinclip? If you only want to cut-and-paste only within X11 (not transferring the text to windows) the you don't need xwinclip. If you want to transfer the text to windows but can't use xwinclip, you can start an xterm from cygwin and do $ cat >/dev/clipboard an then paste the text to the xterm. End it with Ctrl-D (^D) on a new line the other way is $ cat /dev/clipboard or $ recode /CRLF.. References: <002b01c293d3$d73da880$0101a8c0@lin> Message-ID: <3DF037A3.3040908@pilot.msu.edu> Kensuke, The new patch is an architectual improvement. However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that I took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw up. :) I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through repeatedly. My log file from this session is on the web: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. Harold Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >Harold, > >It remains only for debugging. > > > >>Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is >>not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I >>have something go wrong with my patching? >> >> > >By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window manager. > >Kensuke Matsuzaki > > > From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Fri Dec 6 11:18:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bizvdm)) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate keystrokes Message-ID: <2FAEFC2A851BD211AD820008C7286BA402D7E416@NBIZ205> Yes, I still have it, happens a couple of times per day, but there are worse things in life. -----Original Message----- From: Virgilio, Vincent [mailto:Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com] Sent: donderdag 5 december 2002 15:23 To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Duplicate keystrokes Hello, I have noticed that my keystrokes are sometimes duplicated, invisibly. It happens in remote xterms, using ssh, usually when I am in gdb. 1. I run XWin in rootless mode on my desktop, with the ssh-agent in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh enabled. 2. Then I ssh(-add) into a remote Linux node, where I run gdb in an xterm on another Linux node. 3. I get duplicate commands/keystrokes in the above xterm/gdb session. Does anyone have similar experience? This message http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html seems to discuss a similar problem in a different context. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. 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From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 13:08:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:08:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > > Are there any other ways to do copying and pasting in XFree86 other than > > using XWinclip? > >If you only want to cut-and-paste only within X11 (not transferring the >text >to windows) the you don't need xwinclip. If you want to transfer the text >to >windows but can't use xwinclip, you can start an xterm from cygwin and do >$ cat >/dev/clipboard >an then paste the text to the xterm. End it with Ctrl-D (^D) on a new line >the other way is >$ cat and then select the text. Or you can write the text directly to >/dev/clipboard >Maybe you'll have to change the lineendings. Then use >$ recode ../CRLF >/dev/clipboard >or >$ recode /CRLF.. >NP: Terminal Choice - i don??t believe >-- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 Thanks for you answer Alex. Unfortunately I expect my users will want something more like Exceed where they just use their mouse. Does xwinclip work with xdm on your machine? If I do: xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc & xhost + (in the xdm window) xwinclip& It stops me being able to highlight text. Is there something wrong I'm doing in the above? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 6 13:11:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:11:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip and dtsession In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > Thanks for you answer Alex. Unfortunately I expect my users will want > something more like Exceed where they just use their mouse. > > Does xwinclip work with xdm on your machine? If I do: I just tested xwinclip for the first time and it works with xdm too. > xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc & > xhost + (in the xdm window) > xwinclip& > > It stops me being able to highlight text. Is there something wrong I'm doing > in the above? I don't know. I've never used xwinclip before and am not familar with the selection and cat-n-paste with X11. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 14:23:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:23:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip - setlocale error Message-ID: I downloaded the latest xwinclip but when I try to run it I get: $ xwinclip UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP setlocale() error The corresponding code is: /* Set the current locale? What does this do? */ if (fUnicodeSupport) { #ifdef X_LOCALE if (!_Xsetlocale (LC_ALL, "")) #else if (!setlocale (LC_ALL, "")) #endif { printf ("setlocale() error\n"); exit (1); } Can anyone explain to me what's happening here? I tried setting the LC_ALL variable but didn't get anywhere. Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 14:24:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: I just found out that if I do: xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set the depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work on my windows 95 machine? > >Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >XDMCP OPTIONS > X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. > See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification > for more information. > > -query host-name > Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- > fied host. > > -broadcast > Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets > to the network. The first responding display man- > ager will be chosen for the session. > > -indirect host-name > Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the > specified host. > > -port port-num > Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. > Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or > -indirect options. > > >Thus, you would do something like: >XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 > > >Harold > >J S wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a good >>>contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a friendly >>>reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should sometimes tone down >>>our messages. That's all. >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The default >>>>>port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless Microsoft has >>>>>decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If that was the >>>>>case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would >>>>>have been sufficient, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting everyone >>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>> >>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some imagined >>>>attitude. >>>> >>>>cgf >>> >> >>Hi Everyone, >> >>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>used by other people . >> >>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 machine >>from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the other way >>round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect to my xdm >>debug instance running on the different port. Is this possible? >> >>Thanks for the help, >> >>JS. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Fri Dec 6 14:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:50:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF0F817.8000708@pilot.msu.edu> JS, That depends, were you passing those parameters to XWin.exe when trying to use XDMCP? If you were, then yes, they are likely the reason that XDMCP was failing, as XWin.exe was failing to start. If you were not passing those parameters, then it really does not matter that XWin.exe fails with those parameters, as long as XWin.exe starts when you do not use those parameters. Harold J S wrote: > > I just found out that if I do: > > xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 > > on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set > the depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work on > my windows 95 machine? > >> >> Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >> XDMCP OPTIONS >> X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. >> See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification >> for more information. >> >> -query host-name >> Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- >> fied host. >> >> -broadcast >> Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets >> to the network. The first responding display man- >> ager will be chosen for the session. >> >> -indirect host-name >> Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the >> specified host. >> >> -port port-num >> Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. >> Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or >> -indirect options. >> >> >> Thus, you would do something like: >> XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 >> >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >>>> good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a >>>> friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >>>> sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >>>> >>>> Harold >>>> >>>> Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>>>> default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>>>> Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. >>>>>> If that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' >>>>>> uses port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>> confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >>>>> everyone >>>>> know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>>> >>>>> In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response >>>>> was >>>>> perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >>>>> imagined >>>>> attitude. >>>>> >>>>> cgf >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into >>> perspective... The reason for choosing some random port number for >>> debugging xdm was because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as >>> this machine is being used by other people . >>> >>> I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 >>> machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the >>> other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to >>> connect to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is >>> this possible? >>> >>> Thanks for the help, >>> >>> JS. >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 14:57:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:57:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: All i did was : xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc I didn't pass the extra parms so I guess there was a flaw in that theory! I'm clutching at straws a bit now though 'cos I'm desperate to sort this out. I would have a look at the source code but I can imagine it's going to be huge and I haven't got much time left to sort this out. Would I be right in saying though that the most likely cause has got to be something windows 95-network related since the original message said invalid address and this only occurs on win 95? > >JS, > >That depends, were you passing those parameters to XWin.exe when trying to >use XDMCP? If you were, then yes, they are likely the reason that XDMCP >was failing, as XWin.exe was failing to start. If you were not passing >those parameters, then it really does not matter that XWin.exe fails with >those parameters, as long as XWin.exe starts when you do not use those >parameters. > >Harold > >J S wrote: > >> >>I just found out that if I do: >> >>xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 >> >>on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set the >>depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work on my >>windows 95 machine? >> >>> >>>Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >>>XDMCP OPTIONS >>> X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. >>> See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification >>> for more information. >>> >>> -query host-name >>> Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- >>> fied host. >>> >>> -broadcast >>> Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets >>> to the network. The first responding display man- >>> ager will be chosen for the session. >>> >>> -indirect host-name >>> Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the >>> specified host. >>> >>> -port port-num >>> Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. >>> Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or >>> -indirect options. >>> >>> >>>Thus, you would do something like: >>>XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 >>> >>> >>>Harold >>> >>>J S wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is a >>>>>good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up a >>>>>friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >>>>>sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >>>>> >>>>>Harold >>>>> >>>>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>>>>>default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>>>>>Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their products. If >>>>>>>that was the case, then a simple mention that ``Product Foo'' uses >>>>>>>port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when someone is >>>>>>confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >>>>>>everyone >>>>>>know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that way. >>>>>> >>>>>>In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's response was >>>>>>perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >>>>>>imagined >>>>>>attitude. >>>>>> >>>>>>cgf >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>>Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into perspective... >>>>The reason for choosing some random port number for debugging xdm was >>>>because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 as this machine is being >>>>used by other people . >>>> >>>>I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 >>>>machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it the >>>>other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to connect >>>>to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is this >>>>possible? >>>> >>>>Thanks for the help, >>>> >>>>JS. >>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>>>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>>> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 23:46:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:46:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode Message-ID: >Kensuke, > >The new patch is an architectual improvement. > >However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it jumps >back to its original position and retraces the move path that I took it on, >over and over again until I feel like I will throw up. :) > >I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue of >messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >repeatedly. > >My log file from this session is on the web: >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) > >The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. > >Harold > >Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: > >>Harold, >> >>It remains only for debugging. >> >> >> >>>Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it >>>is >>>not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I >>>have something go wrong with my patching? >>> >>> >> >>By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window manager. >> >>Kensuke Matsuzaki >> >> >> How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows manager? _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Sat Dec 7 02:34:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:34:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF12353.9010505@pilot.msu.edu> Well, do you have any VPN software installed on the Windows 95 machine, or have you previously had some VPN software installed on that machine? A lot of the VPN programs replace many of the networking files and they are usually incompatible with Cygwin/XFree86. Some of those programs cause problems with Cygwin/XFree86 even when they are not running. A smaller number of these programs do not remove their networking files that they replaced when they are uninstalled, so they permanently make the machine incompatible with Cygwin/XFree86. There is no inherent reason why XDMCP would not work with Windows 95, so I think there is something going on with the software that has been installed on that machine. Harold J S wrote: > All i did was : > > xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc > > I didn't pass the extra parms so I guess there was a flaw in that > theory! I'm clutching at straws a bit now though 'cos I'm desperate to > sort this out. I would have a look at the source code but I can > imagine it's going to be huge and I haven't got much time left to sort > this out. Would I be right in saying though that the most likely cause > has got to be something windows 95-network related since the original > message said invalid address and this only occurs on win 95? > >> >> JS, >> >> That depends, were you passing those parameters to XWin.exe when >> trying to use XDMCP? If you were, then yes, they are likely the >> reason that XDMCP was failing, as XWin.exe was failing to start. If >> you were not passing those parameters, then it really does not matter >> that XWin.exe fails with those parameters, as long as XWin.exe starts >> when you do not use those parameters. >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> >>> I just found out that if I do: >>> >>> xwin -fullscreen -depth 32 >>> >>> on the win95 machine, XFree fails to start. It only works when I set >>> the depth to 8. Could this explain why I couldn't get xdmcp to work >>> on my windows 95 machine? >>> >>>> >>>> Yup, you can specify the port number. From the ``man Xserver'' page: >>>> XDMCP OPTIONS >>>> X servers that support XDMCP have the following options. >>>> See the X Display Manager Control Protocol specification >>>> for more information. >>>> >>>> -query host-name >>>> Enable XDMCP and send Query packets to the speci- >>>> fied host. >>>> >>>> -broadcast >>>> Enable XDMCP and broadcast BroadcastQuery packets >>>> to the network. The first responding display man- >>>> ager will be chosen for the session. >>>> >>>> -indirect host-name >>>> Enable XDMCP and send IndirectQuery packets to the >>>> specified host. >>>> >>>> -port port-num >>>> Use an alternate port number for XDMCP packets. >>>> Must be specified before any -query, -broadcast or >>>> -indirect options. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thus, you would do something like: >>>> XWin -query smpd9 -port 6556 -fp tcp/smpd9:7100 -from a217447 >>>> >>>> >>>> Harold >>>> >>>> J S wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, okay, but I didn't want to be that hard on Sylvain as he is >>>>>> a good contributor to our discussions... I just wanted to put up >>>>>> a friendly reminder that everyone, I more so than others, should >>>>>> sometimes tone down our messages. That's all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Harold >>>>>> >>>>>> Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not understanding why your response was appropriate. The >>>>>>>> default port for XDM has nothing to do with Microsoft, unless >>>>>>>> Microsoft has decided to use port 177 for one of their >>>>>>>> products. If that was the case, then a simple mention that >>>>>>>> ``Product Foo'' uses port 177 would have been sufficient, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AFAICT, it's the standard Cygwin response #13, issued when >>>>>>> someone is >>>>>>> confused about the process and wants to make a point by letting >>>>>>> everyone >>>>>>> know how bad Microsoft is and exhorting all of us not to be that >>>>>>> way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, it was a value-free message. Alexander's >>>>>>> response was >>>>>>> perfectly clear and he didn't need to be taken to task for some >>>>>>> imagined >>>>>>> attitude. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cgf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for all the interest! Just to get things back into >>>>> perspective... The reason for choosing some random port number for >>>>> debugging xdm was because I couldn't kill the daemon on port 177 >>>>> as this machine is being used by other people . >>>>> >>>>> I was able to fire off a solaris desktop session on my windows 95 >>>>> machine from the xdm on the server, but wasn't sure how to do it >>>>> the other way round i.e. run the XWin -query command and get it to >>>>> connect to my xdm debug instance running on the different port. Is >>>>> this possible? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the help, >>>>> >>>>> JS. >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>>>> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>>>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >>> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Sat Dec 7 11:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> JS, Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode is to create a Windows-window for each top-level X Window, rather than creating one huge window for your entire X desktop. Harold J S wrote: > > >> Kensuke, >> >> The new patch is an architectual improvement. >> >> However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it >> jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that I >> took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw up. :) >> >> I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue >> of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >> repeatedly. >> >> My log file from this session is on the web: >> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) >> >> The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. >> >> Harold >> >> Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >> >>> Harold, >>> >>> It remains only for debugging. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even >>>> thought it is >>>> not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or >>>> did I >>>> have something go wrong with my patching? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window >>> manager. >>> >>> Kensuke Matsuzaki >>> >>> >>> > > How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought > that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have > windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up > with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows > manager? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > From Stephen.allott@cel.com Sat Dec 7 11:49:00 2002 From: Stephen.allott@cel.com (Allott, Stephen) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:49:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem Message-ID: I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it ever got solved? Steve Allott From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu Sat Dec 7 11:59:00 2002 From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:59:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF12B52.6050201@pilot.msu.edu> Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to answer your question very quickly! Harold Allott, Stephen wrote: >I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it ever got solved? > >Steve Allott > > From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Dec 7 22:38:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 22:38:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: <20021207074333.GA8825@ripcord.co.nz> Yep, There are lots of them :) I even wrote one :) http://xlauncher.sf.net It's written in Delphi though, so can't be included in the cygwin distribution :( Hopefully someone will start writing one in straight C/C++ calling the Win32 API, so it could go in cygwin, so people will stop writing their own in non-free languages every month ;-) Tim. On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:48:49PM -0000, Vince Hoffman wrote: > I seem to remember post about something similar, try searching the archives > for 'connection tool' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:lists.ASkwar@email-server.info] > > Sent: 29 November 2002 14:26 > > To: Cygwin XWin Mailingliste > > Subject: Host Chooser Program? > > > > > > Hi! > > > > Now that I've (kinda) got XWin running, I'm looking for a > > program which > > will let me type in the name of the host that I want to connect to. > > > > What I'm trying to do, is to have a shell script, which will > > run some sort > > of Windows GUI program where the user can enter something. > > This "something" > > should then be used as the parameter to the -query option. > > Kinda like this: > > > > XWin.exe -query $(user_prompter) > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alexander Skwar > > -- > > How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) > > Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de > > iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------- > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > > From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sun Dec 8 01:30:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 01:30:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF12B52.6050201@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> He's referring to a very old message on this list concerning 8bit PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree and Cadence. Cadence is a CAD package that requires that feature -- and since PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree is sketchy at best, you can't really use it to xhost cadence. (Which is the primary reason I'm still using XWin32, personally). Stephen -- nope, I don't think you can xhost cadence using cygwin-xfree yet. (And next time, include a little background. Not everybody instantly recalls every message on this list from the past four years) --Chuck Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to > answer your question very quickly! > > Harold > > Allott, Stephen wrote: > >> I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it >> ever got solved? From andrew.markebo@telia.com Sun Dec 8 09:38:00 2002 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:38:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 References: Message-ID: / "J S" wrote: | All i did was : > | xwin -query host -fp host:7100 -from mypc > | I didn't pass the extra parms so I guess there was a flaw in that | theory! I'm clutching at straws a bit now though 'cos I'm desperate to | sort this out. I would have a look at the source code but I can | imagine it's going to be huge and I haven't got much time left to sort | this out. Would I be right in saying though that the most likely cause | has got to be something windows 95-network related since the original | message said invalid address and this only occurs on win 95? Just another wild thought.. not only VPN.. any other socket handling/protecting software on the 95? Does the machine have winsock 2 (does cygwin require winsock 2?)?? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Dec 8 10:36:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 10:36:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Would I be right > in saying though that the most likely cause has got to be something windows > 95-network related since the original message said invalid address and this > only occurs on win 95? Have you already tried the ls_netdev tool as suggested? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Dec 8 13:27:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:27:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Andrew Markebo wrote: > Just another wild thought.. not only VPN.. any other socket > handling/protecting software on the 95? Does the machine have winsock > 2 (does cygwin require winsock 2?)?? no. cygwin does work even with the old win95a class socket layer bye -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Dec 8 13:52:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:52:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: Chuck, I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem He's referring to a very old message on this list concerning 8bit PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree and Cadence. Cadence is a CAD package that requires that feature -- and since PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree is sketchy at best, you can't really use it to xhost cadence. (Which is the primary reason I'm still using XWin32, personally). Stephen -- nope, I don't think you can xhost cadence using cygwin-xfree yet. (And next time, include a little background. Not everybody instantly recalls every message on this list from the past four years) --Chuck Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to > answer your question very quickly! > > Harold > > Allott, Stephen wrote: > >> I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it >> ever got solved? From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sun Dec 8 17:05:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 17:05:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3DF310C7.30004@ece.gatech.edu> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. Correct. > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing. OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so it's tolerable. As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. --Chuck From zephod@drizzle.com Mon Dec 9 09:41:00 2002 From: zephod@drizzle.com (Bill Hughey) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> <3DF310C7.30004@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <003601c29e7d$ac6647c0$0201a8c0@billhu1> Fellow X'ers, Try running your Cadence app in an evaluation copy of WRQ's RX product. I wrote the pseudocolor emulation layer (second version) and would be interested in your impression. At the time the Cadence customers were Sony, Cannon, Mitsubishi, etc. They seemed to be happy with the results: simultaneous pseudocolor and 24bit truecolor windows with arbitrary numbers of installed 8bit colormaps (also simultaneous). If anyone is interested in working on this issue I would be happy to consult with them on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wilson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:28 AM Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. > > Correct. > > > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... > > Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It > wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless > you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same > display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. > > Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 > supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not > any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an > Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other > windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit > colorflashing. > > OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple > windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native > windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- > so it's tolerable. > > As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the > cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. > > --Chuck > > > From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Mon Dec 9 09:41:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem References: <3DF1CE73.9020206@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3DF310C7.30004@ece.gatech.edu> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. Correct. > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing. OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so it's tolerable. As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. --Chuck From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 9 09:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: <003601c29e7d$ac6647c0$0201a8c0@billhu1> Message-ID: Bill, So, are you here just to shill for your commercial product, or do you intend on making contributions to Cygwin/XFree86. If you are here for the former, you can just leave now and spare us from banning you. If, on the other hand, you intend to make contributions to Cygwin/XFree86, then you are welcome to stay so long as said shilling ceases. Thanks and have a nice day, Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Bill Hughey Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:50 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem Fellow X'ers, Try running your Cadence app in an evaluation copy of WRQ's RX product. I wrote the pseudocolor emulation layer (second version) and would be interested in your impression. At the time the Cadence customers were Sony, Cannon, Mitsubishi, etc. They seemed to be happy with the results: simultaneous pseudocolor and 24bit truecolor windows with arbitrary numbers of installed 8bit colormaps (also simultaneous). If anyone is interested in working on this issue I would be happy to consult with them on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wilson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:28 AM Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine > > either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. > > Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode > > with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. > > Correct. > > > Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even > > when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be > > disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support > > and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... > > Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It > wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless > you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same > display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. > > Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 > supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not > any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an > Xserver in "full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other > windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit > colorflashing. > > OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple > windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native > windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- > so it's tolerable. > > As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the > cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. > > --Chuck > > > From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 09:48:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:48:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: > >J S wrote: > > > Would I be right > > in saying though that the most likely cause has got to be something >windows > > 95-network related since the original message said invalid address and >this > > only occurs on win 95? > >Have you already tried the ls_netdev tool as suggested? > >bye > ago >-- Hi Alex, Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow when I go back to work. Also I've just tried to run xdmcp from home (over PPP) but it failed. Nothing was written to xwin.log but I tried ls_netdev and got the following: BASH-2.05b$ xwin -query 161.2.3.54 -from 161.2.160.45 BASH-2.05b$ ls Makefile ls_netdev ls_netdev-w95.exe ls_netdev.c ls_netdev.exe BASH-2.05b$ ls_netdev.exe ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ OS Version: Windows 9x 4.10 Build 67766446 A Querying devices using ioctl lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=161.2.160.45 lo: metric=1 mtu=276 eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 Querying devices using internal function ifname: "0000" driver: "NetTrans\0000" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "MS$PPP" lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 BASH-2.05b$ Anything suspicious there? _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 9 09:56:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > when I go back to work. Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > Anything suspicious there? Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* bye ago NP: Blutengel - Wonderland -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 09:56:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem Message-ID: >From: Charles Wilson >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem >Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 04:28:39 -0500 > >Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine >>either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. >>Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed >>mode >>with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. > >Correct. > >>Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 >>even >>when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be >>disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support >>and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... > >Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It wants >a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have >support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display. >AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. > >Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 >supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any >other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in >"full screen" mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside >it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing. > >OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple >windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native >windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so >it's tolerable. > >As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the >cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. > >--Chuck If you don't like the color flashing, perhaps you could mitigate it by running 2 instances of XWin on 2 different screen numbers? If you shift the Windows desktop into 8-bit color mode and run both instances of XWin in rootless mode, you'd hardly know that you were running 2 different servers (except you'll have to take care to get the DISPLAY variable set just right). Just my $0.02. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 10:31:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:31:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > Here's the output I got from ls_netdev, although what's confusing is I'm > > using a token ring network connection, not ethernet as the output seems >to > > suggest: > >The code for win95 can only distinguish between ppp and other network >interfaces. > > > > > $ ls_netdev-w95 > > ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ > > OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B > > Querying devices using ioctl > > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > >That's the problem. Does the adapter get its IP via dhcp? > >Can you please send me a registry dump of >HKLM\\Enum\\Netwok\\MSTCP and >HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0002 >HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0008 > > > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > > lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 > > eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > > ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > > Querying devices using internal function > > ifname: "0000" > > driver: "NetTrans\0002" > > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > > AdapterName: "" > > ifname: "0002" > > driver: "NetTrans\0008" > > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > > AdapterName: "MS$PPP" > > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > >bye > ago Thanks Alex. Heres HKLM\\Enum\\Netwok\\MSTCP and HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0002. I removed the PPP adapter so 0008 isn't there anymore. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP\] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP\\0000] "Class"="NetTrans" "Driver"="NetTrans\\0002" "MasterCopy"="Enum\\Network\\MSTCP\\0000" "DeviceDesc"="TCP/IP" "CompatibleIDs"="MSTCP" "Mfg"="Microsoft" "ConfigFlags"=hex:10,00,00,00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\Network\MSTCP\\0000\Bindings] "VSERVER\\0001"="" "VREDIR\\0000"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans] @="Network Protocol" "Installer"="netdi.dll" "Icon"="-6" "NoUseClass"="1" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002] "DriverDesc"="TCP/IP" "IPAddress"="10.252.20.185" "IPMask"="255.255.0.0" "DeviceVxDs"="vtdi.386,vip.386,vtcp.386,vdhcp.386,vnbt.386" "InstallVnbt"="0" "InfPath"="NETTRANS.INF" "DriverDate"=" 8-24-1996" "DevLoader"="*ndis" "NameServer1"="10.252.6.21" "NodeType"="8" "DefaultGateway"="10.252.0.1" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi] "DeviceID"="MSTCP" "MaxInstance"="8" "NdiInstaller"="mstcp.dll,TcpNdiProc" "HelpText"="TCP/IP is the protocol you use to connect to the Internet and wide-area networks." "InstallInf"="" "InfSection"="MSTCP.ndi" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Interfaces] "DefUpper"="netbios,tdi,winsock" "DefLower"="ndis2,ndis3,odi" "UpperRange"="netbios,tdi,winsock" "LowerRange"="ndis2,ndis3,odi" "Upper"="netbios,tdi,winsock" "Lower"="ndis2,ndis3,odi" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Install] @="MSTCP.Install" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Remove] @="MSTCP.Remove" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Params] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Params\None] "ParamDesc"="None" "default"="" "type"="keyonly" @="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\RenameBase] "file1"="C:\\WINDOWS\\winsock" "file2"="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\winsock" "file3"="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\win32s\\winsock" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\Ndi\Default] @="True" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002\NDIS] "LogDriverName"="MSTCP" "MajorNdisVersion"=hex:03 "MinorNdisVersion"=hex:0a _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 12:26:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > > when I go back to work. > >Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > > > Anything suspicious there? > >Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* > >bye > ago > Hi Alex, Here's the output I got from running ls_netdex on windows 95: $ ls_netdev-w95 ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B Querying devices using ioctl lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 Querying devices using internal function ifname: "0000" driver: "NetTrans\0002" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "" ifname: "0002" driver: "NetTrans\0008" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "MS$PPP" lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 Thanks for your help. JS. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 9 12:35:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:35:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit PseudoColor problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > If you don't like the color flashing, perhaps you could mitigate it by > running 2 instances of XWin on 2 different screen numbers? Argl. This is the _DISPLAY_ number. Display means port number, running XServer instance. Screen is just a number to let the XServer select the correct monitor/video card HTH ago From vervoom@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 13:22:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:22:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > > when I go back to work. > >Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > > > Anything suspicious there? > >Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* > >bye > ago > I finally got XDM working on Windows 95 after changing my IP address to fixed. It seems it doesn't work with DHCP (on win 95), is that right? JS _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Dec 10 06:11:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: >J S wrote: > > Sorry I didn't realise what ls_netdev was before. I will try it tomorrow > > when I go back to work. > >Maybe this will bring some light to the problem. > > > Anything suspicious there? > >Only that the dll reports more accourate values than ls_netdev *g* > >bye > ago > >NP: Blutengel - Wonderland >-- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 Hi Alex, Here's the output I got from ls_netdev, although what's confusing is I'm using a token ring network connection, not ethernet as the output seems to suggest: $ ls_netdev-w95 ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B Querying devices using ioctl lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 Querying devices using internal function ifname: "0000" driver: "NetTrans\0002" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "" ifname: "0002" driver: "NetTrans\0008" IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" AdapterName: "MS$PPP" lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 10 12:39:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > Here's the output I got from ls_netdev, although what's confusing is I'm > using a token ring network connection, not ethernet as the output seems to > suggest: The code for win95 can only distinguish between ppp and other network interfaces. > > $ ls_netdev-w95 > ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $ > OS Version: Windows 9x 4.0 Build 67306684 B > Querying devices using ioctl > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 That's the problem. Does the adapter get its IP via dhcp? Can you please send me a registry dump of HKLM\\Enum\\Netwok\\MSTCP and HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0002 HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\0008 > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > lo: metric=1 mtu=3924 > eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > ppp0: metric=1 mtu=1500 > Querying devices using internal function > ifname: "0000" > driver: "NetTrans\0002" > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > AdapterName: "" > ifname: "0002" > driver: "NetTrans\0008" > IPAddress: "0.0.0.0", IPMask: "0.0.0.0" > AdapterName: "MS$PPP" > lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1 > eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 > ppp0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From davidf@sjsoft.com Wed Dec 11 01:55:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:55:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages In-Reply-To: <20021205030159.14401.qmail@operamail.com> References: <20021205030159.14401.qmail@operamail.com> Message-ID: <3DF47772.7080804@sjsoft.com> Hansom Young wrote: >Hi, > >Now you can download some prebuilt packages >from http://www.sourceforge.net/project/cygnome > Hi Hansom, Thanks for doing this! The URL should be http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/cygnome (missing s) > >Currently only core libraries and a brunch of applications are available >I've packaged all the core libraries into a single tarball cygnome-libs_1.4b1-x.tar.bz2 >The same to cygnome-apps. > >But lib*.a in cygnome-libs-devel were stupidly stripped by me. (I'm a really newbie,) >So at present you can not build GNOME application by yourself with it. > >This sunday I'll upload the other packages, >including almost the whole GNOME 1.4 desktop (except Nautilus) >and Sawfish, gnumeric etc. > I see if you have now done this... I downloaded it all and tried to get it working, a few questions/issues: startgnome seems to find its own display unless $display is set... which it tries to read from $serverargs (pointing to .xserverrc). So it is designed to start X itself (in contrast to KDE's startkde, which assumes X is started) I would like to get startx to start gnome, what should I put in .xinitrc (since startgnome doesn't work)? In any case, I start Gnome using startgnome and it brings up the nice splash screen, goes through everything, says "Starting Panel", then Done. But I get an Error: Application "panel" has crashed due to a fatal error (segmentation fault). This seems to be a problem with CORBA. The following error messages are printed out: 3 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 7493 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 16136 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 24205 [unknown (0x828)] XWin 2132 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 3 [unknown (0x720)] sh 2108 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 14209 [unknown (0x720)] sh 2108 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 59792 [main] sh 2108 fhandler_console::dup: error opening console, Win32 error 5 3 [unknown (0x638)] xkbcomp 2092 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 20937 [unknown (0x638)] xkbcomp 2092 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5 _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root _IceTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to 1777 SESSION_MANAGER=local/auga:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1824 env: gnome-upgrade.py: No such file or directory /bin/bash: line 1: aumix-minimal: command not found can't load fixed font during initialisationxscreensaver-command: not found xscreensaver: not found ** WARNING **: goad_server_activate: goad.c 673: unexpected exception IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0: ** WARNING **: sysex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. ** WARNING **: usrex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. > >Note: In fact, nearly all the packages are built with the hints and patches distributed >by Steven O'Brien at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2. >All that I did are just building them, packaging them and uploading then there. >(That doesn't mean he is responsible for the bugs and defects in this port). > >Still is there no one would like to help me? > I presume reporting the problems I am having counts as help :-). Regards David From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Dec 11 02:59:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:59:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0002] > "DriverDesc"="TCP/IP" > "IPAddress"="10.252.20.185" This is after you changed the IP-Address to fixed? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Dec 11 04:38:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 04:38:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > > I finally got XDM working on Windows 95 after changing my IP address to > fixed. It seems it doesn't work with DHCP (on win 95), is that right? It seems that the IP Address for DHCP configured inerfaces is not stored in the registry. The next days I'll powerup the win95 vmware and will check this. Until now we'll have to admit that XWin will not work with DHCP configured win95. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 11 04:47:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 04:47:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? Message-ID: >Yep, There are lots of them :) > >I even wrote one :) >http://xlauncher.sf.net > >It's written in Delphi though, so can't be included in the cygwin >distribution :( > >Hopefully someone will start writing one in straight C/C++ calling the >Win32 >API, so it could go in cygwin, so people will stop writing their own in >non-free languages every month ;-) > >Tim. > >On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:48:49PM -0000, Vince Hoffman wrote: > > I seem to remember post about something similar, try searching the >archives > > for 'connection tool' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:lists.ASkwar@email-server.info] > > > Sent: 29 November 2002 14:26 > > > To: Cygwin XWin Mailingliste > > > Subject: Host Chooser Program? > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > Now that I've (kinda) got XWin running, I'm looking for a > > > program which > > > will let me type in the name of the host that I want to connect to. > > > > > > What I'm trying to do, is to have a shell script, which will > > > run some sort > > > of Windows GUI program where the user can enter something. > > > This "something" > > > should then be used as the parameter to the -query option. > > > Kinda like this: > > > > > > XWin.exe -query $(user_prompter) > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Alexander Skwar > > > -- Tim, This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot easier for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but it didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that needs more testing. The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with a fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just wondering if that was a win95 bug or not? Thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From vervoom@hotmail.com Wed Dec 11 06:08:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 06:08:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 Message-ID: > >J S wrote: > > > Yes. Sorry I should have given you the dump with DHCP. I will try and >get > > that for you tomorrow. > >You don't need to. I'll have to check some other sources of information >in windows. The registry is only for static values. The dynamic values >as used with DHCP are not reflected in the registry and the current >algorithm has no access to the current IP address. > >bye > ago >-- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 Alex, With DHCP, you can actually get the IP address by looking in: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP] "Version"=hex:02,00,00,00 "PopupFlag"=hex:01,00,00,00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP\DhcpInfo00] "DhcpIndex"=dword:00000000 "DhcpIPAddress"=hex:0a,fc,14,b9 "DhcpSubnetMask"=hex:ff,ff,00,00 "DhcpServer"=hex:0a,fc,06,26 "DhcpDesiredIPAddress"=hex:0a,fc,14,b9 "Lease"=hex:80,69,16,00 "LeaseObtainedTime"=hex:cd,f7,25,2b "T1"=hex:8d,2c,31,2b "T2"=hex:cd,e5,37,2b "LeaseTerminatesTime"=hex:4d,61,3c,2b "HardwareType"=hex:06 "HardwareAddress"=hex:00,20,35,f0,80,b7 "AddressType"=dword:00000000 "OptionInfo"=hex:2c,08,0a,fc,06,15,a1,02,62,5e,2e,01,08,0f,09,75,6b,2e,62,61,\ 2e,63,6f,6d,06,0c,0a,fc,06,26,a1,02,03,02,a1,02,03,03,03,04,0a,fc,00,01,ff,\ 00 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Wed Dec 11 16:48:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:48:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021210203604.GA28501@ripcord.co.nz> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:18:00PM +0000, J S wrote: > Tim, > > This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot easier > for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but it > didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that needs > more testing. > > The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with a > fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just wondering > if that was a win95 bug or not? > > Thanks, > > JS. It looks OK, its a pity it isn't in a free C/C++ though :) Under the "other" tab, there is an area down the bottom which may display an IP address. Does it? If not, then the xlauncher program hasn't worked out what the IP of the machine is, and won't pass the -from parameter, so will leave it to cygwin to work it out. Does X start when you use XWin -query yourhostIPhere -from yourdesktopIPhere ? (from a bash prompt, with the path set correctly ;) ) Cheers, Tim. From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 12 00:07:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:07:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? Message-ID: > >On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:18:00PM +0000, J S wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot >easier > > for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but >it > > didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that >needs > > more testing. > > > > The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with >a > > fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just >wondering > > if that was a win95 bug or not? > > > > Thanks, > > > > JS. > >It looks OK, its a pity it isn't in a free C/C++ though :) > >Under the "other" tab, there is an area down the bottom which may >display an IP address. Does it? Yes it does. >If not, then the xlauncher program hasn't worked out what the IP of the >machine is, and won't pass the -from parameter, so will leave it to >cygwin to work it out. > >Does X start when you use XWin -query yourhostIPhere -from >yourdesktopIPhere >? (from a bash prompt, with the path set correctly ;) ) It does if I have a fixed IP address. > >Cheers, > >Tim. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From ian.harcombe@espritsoutron.com Thu Dec 12 00:32:00 2002 From: ian.harcombe@espritsoutron.com (Ian Harcombe) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:32:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages Message-ID: Just to voice a quick vote of thanks to all involved in getting this working. I am now happily running Gnome 1.4 (with all the extra bits n bobs you've provided) under Cygwin on a Windows XP Professional laptop as my normal development environment at work. It is clean and responsive, and now that sawfish is running properly, very pretty indeed. The only downside seems to be that I occasionally seem to get left with dead processes left in the Windows Task Manager display which aren't recognised as running by Cygwin ps (ie I am currently showing one gnome-session process in ps, but four according to Windows). Trivial really. -- Ian Harcombe From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Thu Dec 12 01:43:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:43:00 -0000 Subject: Can't login to Solaris 8 machines: "display foo:0 could not be initialized, server may be grabbed." Message-ID: <1039610312.3df731c8db780@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hello! When I try to login with XDMCP to one of our Solaris 8 machines, I get the following message in /var/dt/Xerrors on the Solaris server: error (pid 15092): display fp2367:0 could not be initialized, server may be grabbed. Any ideas about what might be wrong? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Thu Dec 12 03:41:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> References: <200212041301.gB4D1OE240142@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> <1039013067.3dee14cc02dfe@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> <3DEE2044.1070803@msu.edu> <3DEE54D6.3000904@email-server.info> <3DEE5630.7000707@msu.edu> Message-ID: <1039610826.3df733ca6b04e@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Hi again! xkbcomp.exe still segfaults for me. Any ideas about how I might further debug the problem, or which additional information I should supply, so that you might be able to help me find the problem? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g??nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 12 04:10:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <1039610826.3df733ca6b04e@confixx.p15097023.pureserver.info> Message-ID: > xkbcomp.exe still segfaults for me. Any ideas about how I might further > debug the problem, Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Thu Dec 12 04:34:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:34:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021212004516.GB14082@ripcord.co.nz> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:48:04AM +0000, J S wrote: > > > >On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:18:00PM +0000, J S wrote: > > > >> Tim, > >> > >> This is a really good, simple GUI program which will make life a lot > >easier > >> for my users. I tried the cygwin connection tool on win 98 and 2000, but > >it > >> didn't work on neither, complaining of missing DLLs so I guess that > >needs > >> more testing. > >> > >> The xlauncher worked well on W2k, and did run on Win95 (configured with > >a > >> fixed IP address - not dhcp) but didn't "connect" so I was just > >wondering > >> if that was a win95 bug or not? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> JS. > > > >It looks OK, its a pity it isn't in a free C/C++ though :) > > > >Under the "other" tab, there is an area down the bottom which may > >display an IP address. Does it? > > Yes it does. > > >If not, then the xlauncher program hasn't worked out what the IP of the > >machine is, and won't pass the -from parameter, so will leave it to > >cygwin to work it out. > > > >Does X start when you use XWin -query yourhostIPhere -from > >yourdesktopIPhere > >? (from a bash prompt, with the path set correctly ;) ) > > It does if I have a fixed IP address. Hmm, weird. Haven't had that combination before :) Could you please post me (not the list) your Xwin.log, and your launchx.bat file that XLauncher creates from one of these 95 machines, after running XLauncher on it? Hopefully that will turn up something. Cheers, Tim. From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 04:43:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:43:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> Kensuke, Harold, I was just wondering whether it would be possible to create a test build of the X server with this multi-window mode. Obviously there are issues with it but I presume they only come up in multi-window mode? It would just be really nice to see it beginning to work - this is something lots of people have wanted for a long time, congratulations for getting it going! David Harold L Hunt II wrote: > JS, > > Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really > have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode > is to create a Windows-window for each top-level X Window, rather than > creating one huge window for your entire X desktop. > > Harold > > J S wrote: > >> >> >>> Kensuke, >>> >>> The new patch is an architectual improvement. >>> >>> However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it >>> jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that >>> I took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw >>> up. :) >>> >>> I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue >>> of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >>> repeatedly. >>> >>> My log file from this session is on the web: >>> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) >>> >>> The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >>> >>>> Harold, >>>> >>>> It remains only for debugging. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even >>>>> thought it is >>>>> not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or >>>>> did I >>>>> have something go wrong with my patching? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window >>>> manager. >>>> >>>> Kensuke Matsuzaki >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought >> that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have >> windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up >> with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows >> manager? >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> > From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 04:57:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:57:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF848E9.2020508@sjsoft.com> Ian Harcombe wrote: >Just to voice a quick vote of thanks to all involved in getting this >working. > >I am now happily running Gnome 1.4 (with all the extra bits n bobs >you've provided) under Cygwin on a Windows XP Professional laptop as my >normal development environment at work. It is clean and responsive, and >now that sawfish is running properly, very pretty indeed. > > My vote of thanks too! But I can't get it to work, would appreciate any comments. It seems to be a problem with the goad_server which seems to be something to do with CORBA/COMM. Is there any way I can debug it? I have attached the startup log below. BTW, I installed it using the cygwin setup utility, not the installpkg script, could this be a problem? Thanks David starting gnome on display :0 _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root _IceTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to 1777 SESSION_MANAGER=local/auga:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1868 env: gnome-upgrade.py: No such file or directory /bin/bash: line 1: aumix-minimal: command not found can't load fixed font during initialisationxscreensaver-command: not found xscreensaver: not found Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1 ** WARNING **: goad_server_activate: goad.c 673: unexpected exception IDL:CORBA/ COMM_FAILURE:1.0: ** WARNING **: sysex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. ** WARNING **: usrex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. From john@io.com Thu Dec 12 04:58:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:58:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> Message-ID: <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> * David Fraser [2002-12-12 10:03:53 +0200]: > Kensuke, Harold, > I was just wondering whether it would be possible to create a test build > of the X server with this multi-window > mode. Obviously there are issues with it but I presume they only come up > in multi-window mode? > It would just be really nice to see it beginning to work - this is > something lots of people have wanted for a long time, > congratulations for getting it going! I wholeheartedly second that; either a test build, or perhaps some instructions on how to take the patch(es) you supplied and build a modified version using the existing Cygwin tools. Is this just a matter of building a modified version of the XWin.exe binary and replacing my current "XWin -rootless" line with "XWin2 -multiwindow" in the startx script? I think a lot of us non-programmers would be willing to become beta testers and/or bug reporters if we could get our foot in the door. :) Also, someone else suggested making the actual Cygwin/XFree86 "control window" (is that the right term?) minimize to the system tray rather than the taskbar; I think this would be a good idea too... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm no expert. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Fraser Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:29 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Cygwin GNOME 1.4 binary packages Ian Harcombe wrote: >Just to voice a quick vote of thanks to all involved in getting this >working. > >I am now happily running Gnome 1.4 (with all the extra bits n bobs >you've provided) under Cygwin on a Windows XP Professional laptop as my >normal development environment at work. It is clean and responsive, and >now that sawfish is running properly, very pretty indeed. > > My vote of thanks too! But I can't get it to work, would appreciate any comments. It seems to be a problem with the goad_server which seems to be something to do with CORBA/COMM. Is there any way I can debug it? I have attached the startup log below. BTW, I installed it using the cygwin setup utility, not the installpkg script, could this be a problem? Thanks David starting gnome on display :0 _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root _IceTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to 1777 SESSION_MANAGER=local/auga:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1868 env: gnome-upgrade.py: No such file or directory /bin/bash: line 1: aumix-minimal: command not found can't load fixed font during initialisationxscreensaver-command: not found xscreensaver: not found Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1 ** WARNING **: goad_server_activate: goad.c 673: unexpected exception IDL:CORBA/ COMM_FAILURE:1.0: ** WARNING **: sysex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. ** WARNING **: usrex: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0. From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 12 05:10:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:10:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: > I wholeheartedly second that; either a test build, or perhaps some > instructions on how to take the patch(es) you supplied and build a > modified version using the existing Cygwin tools. To build XWin.exe, please read http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html The patch can be applied as shown in the following command $pwd ~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin $bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 $patch -p1 < rootless.patch I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, but is it right? > Is this just a matter > of building a modified version of the XWin.exe binary and replacing my > current "XWin -rootless" line with "XWin2 -multiwindow" in the startx > script? Yes. Kensuke Matsuzaki From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 12 05:39:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:39:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: <20021212004516.GB14082@ripcord.co.nz> Message-ID: > Hmm, weird. Haven't had that combination before :) > > Could you please post me (not the list) your Xwin.log, and your > launchx.bat file that XLauncher creates from one of these 95 machines, > after running XLauncher on it? Hopefully that will turn up something. This is not a problem of XLauncher nor a direct problem of XWin. The cygwin layer can not handle the dynamic IP address and does always report 0.0.0.0 as address for the network interface. Even the -from parameter will not help here. The XServer has no possibility to get the local IP address to send it to the xdmcp server. To add this to the cygwin dll is with high priority on my todo list. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Thu Dec 12 06:06:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 06:06:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF88478.8090606@email-server.info> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. Ok. Should I download the X420src- .tgz files from ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/source/ and go on from there, or how should I proceed? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Thu Dec 12 06:59:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 06:59:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? In-Reply-To: <20021207074333.GA8825@ripcord.co.nz> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA3795595099C@EX-LONDON> <20021207074333.GA8825@ripcord.co.nz> Message-ID: <3DF8878E.6070701@email-server.info> Tim Thomson wrote: > Yep, There are lots of them :) > > I even wrote one :) In the meantime, I've also written one. Mine is written in Python with wxPython. You can get it from http://message-center.info/stuff/xhc/ Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 12 08:20:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:20:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF88478.8090606@email-server.info> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. > > Ok. Should I download the X420src- .tgz files from > ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/source/ and go on from there, or > how should I proceed? I think the contributor's guide covers this topic very well http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ HTH ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From john@io.com Thu Dec 12 08:22:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:22:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> * Kensuke Matsuzaki [2002-12-12 21:10:54 +0900]: > To build XWin.exe, please read >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html I should have figured that out without being told, sorry. I'm now getting the source via CVS. There sure is a lot of it; I hope x86 is still a standard architecture when it finishes. :p > The patch can be applied as shown in the following command > $pwd > ~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin > $bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 > $patch -p1 < rootless.patch > > I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, > but is it right? I don't understand this question. If you're asking if a change you made causes your instructions to break, I'll let you know when I try them. When I get a modified version of XWin.exe out of this process, can other people just download it and drop it in to their own Cygwin installs? (presumably they would back up their current XWin.exe first) Let me know...if this is the case, I'll put my modified version online somewhere for people who don't have the patience/bandwidth/disk space to build their own. After the patch is applied, do I just go back up to the root directory and run "make"? Then find the built XWin.exe and copy it over to the directory where the current one lives? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rudy@viper.iasi.rdsnet.ro Thu Dec 12 08:24:00 2002 From: rudy@viper.iasi.rdsnet.ro (Corneliu Rudeanu) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:24:00 -0000 Subject: X server window size Message-ID: With the current version of XFree86 (XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2; XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-16) I am getting the following: I start a (xdm based) session on another (linux) X server, using a bat which does: start /B XWin -indirect linux This creates a window as large as if being maximized. Ok. If either I click on "Quit" button (from the xdm window) or choose a host, login and then logout from it, the Cygwin/XFree86 window is closed and opened again but shrinked by some 4-5 pixels in width and about the height of the taskbar in height. Repeating the procedure (clicking Quit or along several sessions on the linux machine) the Cygwin/XFree86 window gets smaller and smaller. This behaviour dissapears when I specify -screen 0 1152 844 to XWin command. Is this a known issue? I unsuccessfuly searched in the archives for it. Am I missing something? Another problem (which I did not noticed in *some* previous version) was redraw not being performed properly for eg when moving windows. I work only on another computer (linux) with DISPLAY set to Cygwin machine. Sorry I can't be more specific. Best regards, Corneliu Rudeanu From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 12 08:25:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (zakki@peppermint.jp) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:25:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> Message-ID: -multiwindow is not stable, so I thought binary is not needed. XWin.exe is here. http://peppermint.jp/products/asis/XWin.2002_12_09.exe.bz2 And libfreetype 2.1.1 is here. http://peppermint.jp/temp/libfreetype.tar.bz2 Kensuke Matsuzaki From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 12 08:26:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:26:00 -0000 Subject: Host Chooser Program? Message-ID: > > Hmm, weird. Haven't had that combination before :) > > > > Could you please post me (not the list) your Xwin.log, and your > > launchx.bat file that XLauncher creates from one of these 95 machines, > > after running XLauncher on it? Hopefully that will turn up something. > >This is not a problem of XLauncher nor a direct problem of XWin. The cygwin >layer can not handle the dynamic IP address and does always report 0.0.0.0 >as address for the network interface. Even the -from parameter will not >help >here. The XServer has no possibility to get the local IP address to send it >to the xdmcp server. > >To add this to the cygwin dll is with high priority on my todo list. > > >bye > ago Alex, this problem with Xlauncher happened when I used a fixed IP address, (not DHCP). I'll check the xwin.log and post it tomorrow 'cos I'm working from home today. Cheers, JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 08:36:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode In-Reply-To: References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> Message-ID: <3DF8A381.4060300@sjsoft.com> zakki@peppermint.jp wrote: >-multiwindow is not stable, so I thought binary is not needed. > >XWin.exe is here. >http://peppermint.jp/products/asis/XWin.2002_12_09.exe.bz2 > >And libfreetype 2.1.1 is here. >http://peppermint.jp/temp/libfreetype.tar.bz2 > >Kensuke Matsuzaki > > > Thank you Kensuke! I have konsole running by itself in a separate window! This is great! Much appreciated! By the way I have no stability issues other than moving windows as Harold mentioned. I can resize a window as long as I don't move it. David -=-=- ... Micro$oft is not an answer. It is a question. The answer is 'no'. * TagZilla 0.030 From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 08:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:55:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: <3DF8B74D.1030801@msu.edu> Kensuke, Did you ever look into the bug I reported where a dragged window just keeps on repeating the dragging and never stops moving? Seems to be a problem with the message queue not being cleared properly. My email is in the list archives if you missed it. Harold Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >> I wholeheartedly second that; either a test build, or perhaps some >>instructions on how to take the patch(es) you supplied and build a >>modified version using the existing Cygwin tools. > > To build XWin.exe, please read http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > The patch can be applied as shown in the following command > $pwd > ~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin > $bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 > $patch -p1 < rootless.patch > > I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, > but is it right? > > >>Is this just a matter >>of building a modified version of the XWin.exe binary and replacing my >>current "XWin -rootless" line with "XWin2 -multiwindow" in the startx >>script? > > Yes. > > Kensuke Matsuzaki > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 10:33:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:33:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> Message-ID: <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> David, I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke sent me didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a window if you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he never responded. I didn't want to bug him about it for awhile in case he had seen it... but it seems now that he never saw it. I will release a test version once there are no obvious bugs. I mean, are we really going to benefit from 100 people saying ``multiwindow mode doesn't work, it keeps doing foo''? I don't think so :) Harold David Fraser wrote: > Kensuke, Harold, > I was just wondering whether it would be possible to create a test build > of the X server with this multi-window > mode. Obviously there are issues with it but I presume they only come up > in multi-window mode? > It would just be really nice to see it beginning to work - this is > something lots of people have wanted for a long time, > congratulations for getting it going! > > David > > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >> JS, >> >> Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really >> have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode >> is to create a Windows-window for each top-level X Window, rather than >> creating one huge window for your entire X desktop. >> >> Harold >> >> J S wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> Kensuke, >>>> >>>> The new patch is an architectual improvement. >>>> >>>> However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it >>>> jumps back to its original position and retraces the move path that >>>> I took it on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw >>>> up. :) >>>> >>>> I am not sure what is causing this problem, but obviously the queue >>>> of messages is not being cleared and is instead being looped through >>>> repeatedly. >>>> >>>> My log file from this session is on the web: >>>> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/XWinrl.log.bz2 (33 KiB) >>>> >>>> The unpacked log file is 800+ KiB. >>>> >>>> Harold >>>> >>>> Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: >>>> >>>>> Harold, >>>>> >>>>> It remains only for debugging. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even >>>>>> thought it is >>>>>> not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or >>>>>> did I >>>>>> have something go wrong with my patching? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the window >>>>> manager. >>>>> >>>>> Kensuke Matsuzaki >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought >>> that rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have >>> windowmaker running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up >>> with windowmaker frames. Can you integrate with the Windows windows >>> manager? >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >>> >> > > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 10:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:51:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> Message-ID: <3DF8B839.8030709@msu.edu> Please do not release your own test version. As I said, I am waiting for the repeating window movement to be looked into and possibly fixed. I do not wish to get lots of duplicate bug reports for such an obvious bug. If Kensuke says it doesn't happen with his version, then I will rebuild mine and try it again. Harold John Buttery wrote: > * Kensuke Matsuzaki [2002-12-12 21:10:54 +0900]: > >> To build XWin.exe, please read >>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html > > > I should have figured that out without being told, sorry. I'm now > getting the source via CVS. There sure is a lot of it; I hope x86 is > still a standard architecture when it finishes. :p > > >> The patch can be applied as shown in the following command >>$pwd >>~/x-devel/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin >>$bunzip2 rootless.patch.bz2 >>$patch -p1 < rootless.patch >> >> I edited xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules to disable version controlled .dll, >>but is it right? > > > I don't understand this question. If you're asking if a change you > made causes your instructions to break, I'll let you know when I try > them. > > When I get a modified version of XWin.exe out of this process, can > other people just download it and drop it in to their own Cygwin > installs? (presumably they would back up their current XWin.exe first) > Let me know...if this is the case, I'll put my modified version online > somewhere for people who don't have the patience/bandwidth/disk space to > build their own. > > After the patch is applied, do I just go back up to the root directory > and run "make"? Then find the built XWin.exe and copy it over to the > directory where the current one lives? > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 11:29:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:29:00 -0000 Subject: X server window size References: Message-ID: <3DF8B87A.3000509@msu.edu> Corneliu, Yes, I have seen a similar problem before. I have not yet had a chance to look into it and not that many people are complaining about it :) Harold Corneliu Rudeanu wrote: > With the current version of XFree86 (XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2; > XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-16) I am getting the following: > > I start a (xdm based) session on another (linux) X server, using a bat > which does: > > start /B XWin -indirect linux > > This creates a window as large as if being maximized. Ok. If either I > click on "Quit" button (from the xdm window) or choose a host, login and > then logout from it, the Cygwin/XFree86 window is closed and opened again > but shrinked by some 4-5 pixels in width and about the height of the > taskbar in height. Repeating the procedure (clicking Quit or along > several sessions on the linux machine) the Cygwin/XFree86 window gets > smaller and smaller. > > This behaviour dissapears when I specify > -screen 0 1152 844 > to XWin command. Is this a known issue? I unsuccessfuly searched in the > archives for it. Am I missing something? > > Another problem (which I did not noticed in *some* previous version) was > redraw not being performed properly for eg when moving windows. I work > only on another computer (linux) with DISPLAY set to Cygwin machine. Sorry > I can't be more specific. > > Best regards, > Corneliu Rudeanu > From syjef@mail.mdanderson.org Thu Dec 12 12:15:00 2002 From: syjef@mail.mdanderson.org (Jonathan Fosburgh) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:15:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:22:45 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > David, > > I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke sent me > didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a window if > you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he never responded. > I didn't want to bug him about it for awhile in case he had seen it... > but it seems now that he never saw it. > > I will release a test version once there are no obvious bugs. I mean, are > we really going to benefit from 100 people saying ``multiwindow mode doesn't > work, it keeps doing foo''? I don't think so :) > I'll add to the description of the bug. If I try to launch any application (xterm, for instance) the window just slowly moves diagonally across the screen regardless of if I try to move it. Eventually it disappears, never to be seen again. If I intercept it and move it, it behanves as you reported. -- Jonathan Fosburgh Software Systems Specialist III AIX/SAN Administrator University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX From john@io.com Thu Dec 12 12:16:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:16:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF8B839.8030709@msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> <20021212130724.GG32056@io.com> <3DF8B839.8030709@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021212163603.GC4473@io.com> * Harold L Hunt II [2002-12-12 11:24:25 -0500]: > Please do not release your own test version. As I said, I am waiting > for the repeating window movement to be looked into and possibly fixed. > I do not wish to get lots of duplicate bug reports for such an obvious > bug. If Kensuke says it doesn't happen with his version, then I will > rebuild mine and try it again. OK; sorry, I guess I got a little ahead of myself. I'm one of those people that's been waiting for a Windows-as-window-manager X server for a long time, so I was excited. :) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zakki@peppermint.jp Thu Dec 12 13:07:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Matsuzaki Kensuke) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF8B74D.1030801@msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <20021212094304.GA32056@io.com> Message-ID: Harold, I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. Maximizing a window never stop too. Matsuzaki Kensuke From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Dec 12 13:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:41:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode Message-ID: <200212121833.gBCIXHe84026@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Thu Dec 12 14:52:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:52:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <200212121833.gBCIXHe84026@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <001c01c2a20f$7d0d2da0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> This may be obvious, but the difference between the two is that Windows sends you a bunch of messages when you're dragging the window when fulldrag is in effect... So it might be some message handler repositioning the window during one of those notifications... Maybe a WM_SIZE or WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING... Anyhow, I think running spy and just looking in on the stream of messages that a window doing fulldrag receives could be a way to figure out which message. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:33 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Rootless mode Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From davidf@sjsoft.com Thu Dec 12 14:53:00 2002 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:53:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> References: <3DF1239E.8040707@pilot.msu.edu> <3DF842E9.7020904@sjsoft.com> <3DF8B7D5.1000201@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF8E2EC.1040900@sjsoft.com> Harold L Hunt II wrote: > David, > > I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke > sent me didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a > window if you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he > never responded. I didn't want to bug him about it for awhile in case > he had seen it... but it seems now that he never saw it. > > I will release a test version once there are no obvious bugs. I mean, > are we really going to benefit from 100 people saying ``multiwindow > mode doesn't work, it keeps doing foo''? I don't think so :) > > Harold > OK, I see the reason now, thanks for explaining. In the mean time has been quite fun getting it to run :-) I'm quite happy with not moving windows as long as I know that it's to be avoided. David -- Micro$oft is not an answer. It is a question. The answer is 'no'. From mk329@cam.ac.uk Thu Dec 12 14:55:00 2002 From: mk329@cam.ac.uk (Milos Komarcevic) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:55:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode -multiwindow bug Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021212201003.00a7bd50@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk> I was able to reproduce the -multiwindow moving bug on two Win2k machines, and "Show window contents while dragging" does not seem to have any effect on those machines. (I already had it switched off) Neither does disabling ActiveDesktop help. From d.dorst@hccnet.nl Thu Dec 12 15:25:00 2002 From: d.dorst@hccnet.nl (d. dorst) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:25:00 -0000 Subject: Installation Message-ID: <000501c2a21b$3ae07340$063dfb3e@k5p2r2> I have got cygwin on a cd-rom because I use a 56K modem. I have read the FAQ s that are on the cd and tried every solution that is there but it will not install. Every time when the packeges should come in the sceen it says that there is nothing availeble. Should I first unzip every folder that is on the cd or is there an other way of doing this. I know that I am a dumb Windows user but I can not get cygwin working this way. I would be gratefull for any help. Dirk Dorst From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Fri Dec 13 03:40:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:40:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager Message-ID: <3DF8D34C.5E23F105@fi.uba.ar> Hello! For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my Windows system? I have any problems of fonts visualisation... How I can configure X so that use the server of fonts of the remote system? Thanks! Mart??n. From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Fri Dec 13 03:44:00 2002 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:44:00 -0000 Subject: Installation In-Reply-To: <000501c2a21b$3ae07340$063dfb3e@k5p2r2> Message-ID: Wrong list, redirected. Igor On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, d. dorst wrote: > I have got cygwin on a cd-rom because I use a 56K modem. > I have read the FAQ s that are on the cd and tried every solution that is > there but it will not install. > Every time when the packeges should come in the sceen it says that there is > nothing availeble. > Should I first unzip every folder that is on the cd or is there an other way > of doing this. > I know that I am a dumb Windows user but I can not get cygwin working this > way. > I would be gratefull for any help. > > Dirk Dorst -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Dec 13 03:53:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:53:00 -0000 Subject: Email status flags In-Reply-To: <20021212163603.GC4473@io.com> Message-ID: John, Whatever you are doing to your email to cause it to be flagged as important and needing followup, please stop. I sort the Cygwin/XFree86 email by the importance flag and I have a list of emails that I need to follow up on for the Cygwin/XFree86 project. Some flags in your email are causing your emails to appear at the top of my email list, where they do not belong because I have not flagged them for followup. Now, this is probably just some default setting in your mail client, so please try to find a way to disable it. Or, if you like this setting, please refrain from using it when sending emails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. Thanks so much, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Dec 13 05:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:21:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3DF8D34C.5E23F105@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: Martin, You cannot. Not yet, at least. We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is made. Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mart??n De Marchi Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Windows Manager Hello! For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my Windows system? I have any problems of fonts visualisation... How I can configure X so that use the server of fonts of the remote system? Thanks! Mart??n. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Dec 13 09:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:27:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: <001c01c2a20f$7d0d2da0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> Message-ID: Looking at Kensuke's code, he uses an internal queue to store messages that need to be processed by child windows. For some reason this queue is not being properly reset when the messages are processed. Or, it could be as simple as returning the wrong value after processing these messages, causing Windows to send them again. Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Gervais Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Rootless mode This may be obvious, but the difference between the two is that Windows sends you a bunch of messages when you're dragging the window when fulldrag is in effect... So it might be some message handler repositioning the window during one of those notifications... Maybe a WM_SIZE or WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING... Anyhow, I think running spy and just looking in on the stream of messages that a window doing fulldrag receives could be a way to figure out which message. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:33 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Rootless mode Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Fri Dec 13 09:44:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless mode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003a01c2a235$ad150ec0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> Other than the WM_PAINT message, I don't think Windows ever sends the same message again. On a WM_PAINT, if you do not mark validate the region by calling BeginPaint and EndPaint and return from processing the WM_PAINT, you WILL receive a WM_PAINT again. On the other hand, if you call GetMessage without PM_REMOVE, the message retrieved is not removed from the queue. But if that were the case, the SAME message would keep being retrieved because the Windows message queue is more or less a FIFO structure. There might be some recursion at work here though, because if the child windows notify the parent and in response the parent posts or sends the same message again, things could get hairy. Probably not though, because they flood of messages does stop, right? I'm sure running Spy++ would yield interesting information. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:55 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Rootless mode Looking at Kensuke's code, he uses an internal queue to store messages that need to be processed by child windows. For some reason this queue is not being properly reset when the messages are processed. Or, it could be as simple as returning the wrong value after processing these messages, causing Windows to send them again. Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Gervais Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Rootless mode This may be obvious, but the difference between the two is that Windows sends you a bunch of messages when you're dragging the window when fulldrag is in effect... So it might be some message handler repositioning the window during one of those notifications... Maybe a WM_SIZE or WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING... Anyhow, I think running spy and just looking in on the stream of messages that a window doing fulldrag receives could be a way to figure out which message. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:33 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Rootless mode Kensuke, Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option on by default, I believe. Are you going to try to debug this? Harold Matsuzaki Kensuke said: > Harold, > > I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when > "Show window contents while dragging" enabled. > > Maximizing a window never stop too. > > Matsuzaki Kensuke > > From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Fri Dec 13 10:44:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:44:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Compile xkbcomp from sources and run it in gdb. I've now built a debug build of XFree86 4.2.0. How do I run xkbcomp.exe in gdb? I tried: gdb "/etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm" But when I then click on the run icon (or press R), I get the "Open File" dialog. When I run 'gdb /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe', I can push the Run icon just fine. I then see, that a window pops up but closes right away. Hmm.... I now tried to start 'gdb /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe'. Then I opened the Console and entered "run -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm". I now get this output in the Console window: Starting program: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0040f93e in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () Single stepping until exit from function _size_of_stack_reserve__, which has no line number information. 0x77fa4db3 in _libuser32_a_iname () (gdb) backtrace #0 0x77fa4db3 in _libuser32_a_iname () #1 0x0022efe8 in ?? () #2 0x0040d768 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #3 0x00404bf2 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #4 0x610072e8 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #5 0x610075cd in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #6 0x0044c6c2 in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #7 0x0040103c in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () #8 0x77e614c7 in _libuser32_a_iname () Should I do something else? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Fri Dec 13 11:52:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> References: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> Message-ID: <3DF9C803.7090800@email-server.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > I've now built a debug build of XFree86 4.2.0. How do I run xkbcomp.exe > in gdb? I tried: When I select /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe in the "Load New Executable" dialog I get when I press Run, gdb prints: This executable has no debugging information. Any ideas, about why this is so? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info Fri Dec 13 12:04:00 2002 From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:04:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF9C803.7090800@email-server.info> References: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> <3DF9C803.7090800@email-server.info> Message-ID: <3DF9CA44.4000708@email-server.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > >>I've now built a debug build of XFree86 4.2.0. How do I run xkbcomp.exe >>in gdb? I tried: > > > When I select /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe in the "Load New Executable" > dialog I get when I press Run, gdb prints: Before you ask - before I did "make install", I did: mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11-from-Cygwin mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6-from-Cygwin So /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 have been created by "make install". Also, when I run the new /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbcomp.exe, I right away get a crash dialog from Windows. When I run /usr/X11R6-from-Cygwin/bin/xkbcomp.exe, I get this in the bash window: $ /usr/X11R6-from-Cygwin/bin/xkbcomp.exe Error: No input file specified Strange... Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.biz | Jabber: askwar@a-message.de iso-top.biz - Die g?nstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen From salah_z@yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 12:10:00 2002 From: salah_z@yahoo.com (Salah Zerrougui) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:10:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip Message-ID: <20021213132117.90754.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I download Xwinclip Test06 according to instructions, put start start xwinclip.exe in the batch file after start Xwin ...... Now when i select some text and cut it, i get SelectionNotify CompoundText in the Xwinclip (Dos windows) but when i go to Windows Notepad i cannot paste it (grayed). Did someone have the same problem or am'i missing something. Thanks in advance for any help, Salah. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 13 12:24:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:24:00 -0000 Subject: xkbcomp.exe segfaults In-Reply-To: <3DF9C709.9080003@email-server.info> Message-ID: Alexander Skwar wrote: > I now tried to start 'gdb /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe'. Then I opened the > Console and entered "run -xkm -m de /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 > /tmp/de.xkm". I now get this output in the Console window: > > Starting program: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe -xkm -m de > /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x0040f93e in _size_of_stack_reserve__ () > Single stepping until exit from function _size_of_stack_reserve__, > which has no line number information. > 0x77fa4db3 in _libuser32_a_iname () the cygwin dll seems to produce some internal segfaults. Maybe this is one. If you get a segfault, just get the backtrace and then continue (c). If It was the one from xkbcomp the program will then fail to continue. You can also go to the xc/programs/xkbcomp and check if xkbcomp was compiled with the -g option. This turns on debug symbols. If it's not, you can simply add this option to CFLAGS and LDFALGS in the Makefile and run $ make clean includes depend xkbcomp in the directory to rebuild only xkbcomp with debug symbols. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From keith@keithtyler.com Fri Dec 13 12:42:00 2002 From: keith@keithtyler.com (Keith D. Tyler) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:42:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20021213132117.90754.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> from "Salah Zerrougui" at Dec 13, 2002 05:21:17 AM Message-ID: <200212131744.gBDHigx10758@shell.faradic.net> Salah Zerrougui was recently quoted as saying... > I download Xwinclip Test06 according to instructions, > put start start xwinclip.exe in the batch file after > start Xwin ...... > Now when i select some text and cut it, i get > SelectionNotify CompoundText in the Xwinclip (Dos > windows) but when i go to Windows Notepad i cannot > paste it (grayed). I believe when that happens, it also means that Xwinclip has died, and you need to restart it. I had this happen a lot to me and I reverted to Test05 release and have had less (but not zero) problems. I'm guessing international character sets can cause Xwinclip more headaches. ================================================================== Keith D. Tyler keith@keithtyler.com Federal Way, WA http://www.keithtyler.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ If Tyrrany and Oppresion come to this land, it will be under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. - James Madison, U.S. President 1809-1817 ================================================================== From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 13 13:14:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP on Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > > With DHCP, you can actually get the IP address by looking in: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP] > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\DHCP\DhcpInfo00] On my win95 host only the DhcpInfo and OptionInfo keys exist. But it seems that the IPAddress is stored in DhcpInfo. So i only have to find a mapping Interface->DhcpEntry and the switch that toggles the DHCP use in windows. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From ronykpa@yahoo.com Sat Dec 14 12:23:00 2002 From: ronykpa@yahoo.com (Ron Brinton) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 12:23:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan Message-ID: <20021213195149.27147.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> We have a problem with crashing machines. We are running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. With Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton scans comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems reboots. I have found that even if I open that file in Word, the systems reboots. We were also having the same problem with C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular install options this files does not exist. Have there been other reports of this problem? What install options install the C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group files? How can I avoid this problem? How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 I am running? Thanks -Ron ===== Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA God answers knee-mail __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From moreau.jerome@attbi.com Mon Dec 16 07:17:00 2002 From: moreau.jerome@attbi.com (Jerome Moreau) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:17:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan References: <20021213195149.27147.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02c301c2a2e2$c1090e60$6301a8c0@Nukki> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. With > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton scans > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > reboots. I have found that even if I open that file in > Word, the systems reboots. > > We were also having the same problem with > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > install options this files does not exist. > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > What install options install the > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group files? > How can I avoid this problem? > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 I am > running? > > Thanks -Ron > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From moreau.jerome@attbi.com Mon Dec 16 09:12:00 2002 From: moreau.jerome@attbi.com (Jerome Moreau) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan References: <20021213195149.27147.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02ec01c2a2e3$9cac2b00$6301a8c0@Nukki> Hi, I have and XP system and just tried editing the group file you mention with Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on my machine. Scanning it with Norton also works... You can tell what versions you have of cygwin by running : cygcheck -c Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I meant to reply only to Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. Jerome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. With > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton scans > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > reboots. I have found that even if I open that file in > Word, the systems reboots. > > We were also having the same problem with > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > install options this files does not exist. > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > What install options install the > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group files? > How can I avoid this problem? > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 I am > running? > > Thanks -Ron > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From ronykpa@yahoo.com Mon Dec 16 10:55:00 2002 From: ronykpa@yahoo.com (Ron Brinton) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:55:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan In-Reply-To: <02ec01c2a2e3$9cac2b00$6301a8c0@Nukki> Message-ID: <20021213202401.96566.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Jerome, Thanks for the reply. Just verifing that you had cygwin running durring your test. When I say running, I had a server_start script that gives me a window to log into my unix box just like I was doing so from the unix keyboard... starts Solaris... --- Jerome Moreau wrote: > Hi, > > I have and XP system and just tried editing the > group file you mention with > Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on > my machine. Scanning it > with Norton also works... You can tell what versions > you have of cygwin by > running : > > cygcheck -c > > Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I > meant to reply only to > Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. > > Jerome. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Brinton" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM > Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > > > > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. > With > > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton > scans > > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > > reboots. I have found that even if I open that > file in > > Word, the systems reboots. > > > > We were also having the same problem with > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > > install options this files does not exist. > > > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > > What install options install the > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group > files? > > How can I avoid this problem? > > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 > I am > > running? > > > > Thanks -Ron > > > > > > ===== > > Ronald S. Brinton York International > Corp. > > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA > 17405-1592 USA > > God answers knee-mail > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > ===== Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA God answers knee-mail __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From moreau.jerome@attbi.com Mon Dec 16 11:28:00 2002 From: moreau.jerome@attbi.com (Jerome Moreau) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:28:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan References: <20021213202401.96566.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <038601c2a2e7$ef740b60$6301a8c0@Nukki> Roger, Yes I had Cygwin/XFree86 running the port of KDE 2 actually, with Konqueror running on it. Opening / scanning the file does cause any problem on my system, but then again it is XP and not W2K. Might it not be an issue of your group file being corrupted ? Does anyone else know of an issue with W2K ? Jerome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: crashed with Norton Scan > Jerome, > > Thanks for the reply. > > Just verifing that you had cygwin running durring your > test. When I say running, I had a server_start script > that gives me a window to log into my unix box just > like I was doing so from the unix keyboard... starts > Solaris... > > > > > --- Jerome Moreau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have and XP system and just tried editing the > > group file you mention with > > Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on > > my machine. Scanning it > > with Norton also works... You can tell what versions > > you have of cygwin by > > running : > > > > cygcheck -c > > > > Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I > > meant to reply only to > > Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. > > > > Jerome. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron Brinton" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM > > Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > > > > > > > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > > > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. > > With > > > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton > > scans > > > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > > > reboots. I have found that even if I open that > > file in > > > Word, the systems reboots. > > > > > > We were also having the same problem with > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > > > install options this files does not exist. > > > > > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > > > What install options install the > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group > > files? > > > How can I avoid this problem? > > > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 > > I am > > > running? > > > > > > Thanks -Ron > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Ronald S. Brinton York International > > Corp. > > > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > > > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > > > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA > > 17405-1592 USA > > > God answers knee-mail > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Mon Dec 16 11:32:00 2002 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:32:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager Message-ID: I believe Harold was referring to the first part of your question, only. To use a remote font server, use -fp. An example is in the FAQ (though not obvious to find) - http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts Cary "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message news:... > Martin, > > You cannot. Not yet, at least. > > We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list > or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is > made. > > Harold > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mart?n De Marchi > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Windows Manager > > > Hello! > > For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows > manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my > Windows system? > I have any problems of fonts visualisation... > How I can configure X so that use the server of > fonts of the remote system? > > Thanks! Mart?n. > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 16 13:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: crashed with Norton Scan In-Reply-To: <038601c2a2e7$ef740b60$6301a8c0@Nukki> Message-ID: Guys, If this discussion is not particular to XFree86, then please take the discussion to cygwin@cygwin.com, as there are many more people there that can help. Thanks, Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jerome Moreau Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:41 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: crashed with Norton Scan Roger, Yes I had Cygwin/XFree86 running the port of KDE 2 actually, with Konqueror running on it. Opening / scanning the file does cause any problem on my system, but then again it is XP and not W2K. Might it not be an issue of your group file being corrupted ? Does anyone else know of an issue with W2K ? Jerome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brinton" To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: crashed with Norton Scan > Jerome, > > Thanks for the reply. > > Just verifing that you had cygwin running durring your > test. When I say running, I had a server_start script > that gives me a window to log into my unix box just > like I was doing so from the unix keyboard... starts > Solaris... > > > > > --- Jerome Moreau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have and XP system and just tried editing the > > group file you mention with > > Textpad and Word but it opens without rebooting on > > my machine. Scanning it > > with Norton also works... You can tell what versions > > you have of cygwin by > > running : > > > > cygcheck -c > > > > Really sorry about the empty post I just sent : I > > meant to reply only to > > Ronald.. I'll be more careful in the future. > > > > Jerome. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron Brinton" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM > > Subject: crashed with Norton Scan > > > > > > > We have a problem with crashing machines. We are > > > running Windows 2000 on a variety of machines. > > With > > > Cygwin running, when out Corp. edition of Norton > > scans > > > comes to C:\Cygwin\etc\group file, the systems > > > reboots. I have found that even if I open that > > file in > > > Word, the systems reboots. > > > > > > We were also having the same problem with > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf , but with the particular > > > install options this files does not exist. > > > > > > Have there been other reports of this problem? > > > What install options install the > > > C:/cygwin/etc/mime.conf & C:\Cygwin\etc\group > > files? > > > How can I avoid this problem? > > > How can I tell what version of Cygwin and Xfree86 > > I am > > > running? > > > > > > Thanks -Ron > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Ronald S. Brinton York International > > Corp. > > > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > > > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > > > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA > > 17405-1592 USA > > > God answers knee-mail > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > ===== > Ronald S. Brinton York International Corp. > Ronald.Brinton@York.com www.York.com > CAD Support Specialist P.O. Box 1592-231A > (717) 771-7847 Fax 771-7297 York, PA 17405-1592 USA > God answers knee-mail > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From salah_z@yahoo.com Mon Dec 16 19:45:00 2002 From: salah_z@yahoo.com (Salah Zerrougui) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:45:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip Message-ID: <20021216123106.14423.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Keith, Thanks for the tip, that did it, I guess Test06 is not stable yet. Salah. >Salah Zerrougui was recently quoted as saying... >> I download Xwinclip Test06 according to instructions, >> put start start xwinclip.exe in the batch file after >> start Xwin ...... >> Now when i select some text and cut it, i get >> SelectionNotify CompoundText in the Xwinclip (Dos >> windows) but when i go to Windows Notepad i cannot >> paste it (grayed). >I believe when that happens, it also means that Xwinclip has died, and you need to restart it. >I had this happen a lot to me and I reverted to Test05 release and have had less >(but not zero) problems. >I'm guessing international character sets can cause Xwinclip more headaches. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From john@io.com Tue Dec 17 03:01:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 03:01:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20021216123106.14423.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021216123106.14423.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021216171222.GC26618@io.com> * Salah Zerrougui [2002-12-16 04:31:06 -0800]: > Keith, > Thanks for the tip, that did it, > I guess Test06 is not stable yet. For the record, in case the xwinclip developers know something about the different Windows versions that would halp them debug, I've been using xwinclip in a NT 4.0 Workstation SP6a environment for a long time with zero, and I mean not even one, problems. Maybe there's something about that version it likes? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith@keithtyler.com Tue Dec 17 06:32:00 2002 From: keith@keithtyler.com (Keith D. Tyler) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20021216171222.GC26618@io.com> from "John Buttery" at Dec 16, 2002 11:12:22 AM Message-ID: <200212161855.gBGItqx11019@shell.faradic.net> John Buttery was recently quoted as saying... > For the record, in case the xwinclip developers know something about > the different Windows versions that would halp them debug, I've been > using xwinclip in a NT 4.0 Workstation SP6a environment for a long time > with zero, and I mean not even one, problems. Maybe there's something > about that version it likes?=20 I use Windows 2K SP2, but I heaviliy use a proprietary product which does not do normal cut and paste (from what I can tell, I don't know the details) because of the special conditions of the objects being handled. That is my prime suspect for my xwinclip problems. Kdt From jmb@ERC.MsState.Edu Tue Dec 17 13:59:00 2002 From: jmb@ERC.MsState.Edu (Matthew Bailey) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:59:00 -0000 Subject: ctrl-c with X11 fwd'ing Message-ID: I need to use X11 forwarding to help display my programs remotely from work. But, when using X11 forwarding, the ctrl-c command kills all ssh connections I have, and I must start my jobs all over again. Is there any way for me to get around this? Any config files I can edit to stop this from happening? Matthew _\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_ | James M. Bailey Phone: 662-325-9519 | | Systems and Network Administration | | jmb@ERC.MsState.Edu http://WWW.ERC.MsState.Edu/~jmb | | Mississippi State University ERC | |_________________________________________________________________________| From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Dec 17 20:01:00 2002 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:01:00 -0000 Subject: ctrl-c with X11 fwd'ing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Matthew Bailey wrote: > I need to use X11 forwarding to help display my programs remotely from > work. But, when using X11 forwarding, the ctrl-c command kills all ssh > connections I have, and I must start my jobs all over again. > > Is there any way for me to get around this? Any config files I can edit > to stop this from happening? > > Matthew Try adding 'tty' to your CYGWIN environment variable. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Wed Dec 18 00:20:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:20:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager References: Message-ID: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> Thanks Harold and Cary for the answers. I have other questions... Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? I try it in both ways and the message "program: cannot connect to X sever" is showed... There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from a dos shell? Thanks! Mart??n. Cary Jamison wrote: > I believe Harold was referring to the first part of your question, only. > > To use a remote font server, use -fp. An example is in the FAQ (though not obvious to find) - > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts > > Cary > > "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message news:... > > Martin, > > > > You cannot. Not yet, at least. > > > > We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list > > or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is > > made. > > > > Harold > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mart??n De Marchi > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Windows Manager > > > > > > Hello! > > > > For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows > > manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my > > Windows system? > > I have any problems of fonts visualisation... > > How I can configure X so that use the server of > > fonts of the remote system? > > > > Thanks! Mart??n. > > > > From john@io.com Wed Dec 18 10:08:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:08:00 -0000 Subject: Xwinclip In-Reply-To: <200212161855.gBGItqx11019@shell.faradic.net> References: <20021216171222.GC26618@io.com> <200212161855.gBGItqx11019@shell.faradic.net> Message-ID: <20021217034529.GB32038@io.com> * "Keith D. Tyler" [2002-12-16 13:55:52 -0500]: > ...but I heaviliy use a proprietary product which does not do normal > cut and paste (from what I can tell, I don't know the details) because > of the special conditions of the objects being handled. Yes, yes, we all use Windows, what's your point? :) (Sorry, couldn't resist. :p) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Dec 18 12:22:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:22:00 -0000 Subject: ctrl-c with X11 fwd'ing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Matthew Bailey wrote: > I need to use X11 forwarding to help display my programs remotely from > work. But, when using X11 forwarding, the ctrl-c command kills all ssh > connections I have, and I must start my jobs all over again. > > Is there any way for me to get around this? Any config files I can edit > to stop this from happening? No. If you kill the ssh you also kill the connection. so don't kill ssh. From rbelenov@yandex.ru Thu Dec 19 02:11:00 2002 From: rbelenov@yandex.ru (Roman Belenov) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:11:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> =?iso-8859-1?q?(Mart=EDn?= De Marchi's message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:27:54 +0000") References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: Mart??n De Marchi writes: > Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) > or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? > I try it in both ways and the message "program: cannot connect to X sever" > is showed... > There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from > a dos shell? You should set DISPLAY environemnt variable to correct value, e.g. set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cmd.exe) or export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cygwin shell) -- With regards, Roman. From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Thu Dec 19 02:36:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:36:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Thanks Roman! Other question... There is any way to hide de X window ? That is, I want launch the remote program from a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want see only the windows of this program and not the X main window... Can I make this? Thanks for the help! Mart??n. Roman Belenov wrote: > Mart??n De Marchi writes: > > > Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) > > or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? > > I try it in both ways and the message "program: cannot connect to X sever" > > is showed... > > There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from > > a dos shell? > > You should set DISPLAY environemnt variable to correct value, e.g. > > set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cmd.exe) or > export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cygwin shell) > > -- > With regards, Roman. From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Thu Dec 19 03:46:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 03:46:00 -0000 Subject: Errors running setup updater Message-ID: <00c901c2a64a$1c1600f0$6501a8c0@sprymusic.com> Hi, Running the updater as I do periodically, tonight it gave me a series of errors. It actually did this on two machines that I keep up to date. Any ideas why this is happening and how to fix it? LOG INCLUDED ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- 2002/12/17 22:50:46 Starting cygwin install, version 2.249.2.5 2002/12/17 22:50:46 Current Directory: D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop 2002/12/17 22:50:48 source: network install 2002/12/17 22:50:49 root: d:\cygwin binary system 2002/12/17 22:50:50 Selected local directory: D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin 2002/12/17 22:50:52 net: IE5 2002/12/17 22:50:54 site: ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin 2002/12/17 22:50:56 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:50:56 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:51:05 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gcc-mingw/gcc-mingw-20020817-3.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:18 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gdb/gdb-20021215-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:24 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ groff/groff-1.18.1-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:25 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ less/less-378-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:26 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ patch/patch-2.5.8-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:26 Downloaded D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ sysvinit/sysvinit-2.84-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:29 mbox yesno: Download Incomplete. Try again? 2002/12/17 22:51:31 Uninstalling cpio 2002/12/17 22:51:31 Uninstalling gcc-mingw 2002/12/17 22:51:31 running: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/preremove/gcc-mingw.sh 2002/12/17 22:51:31 Uninstalling gdb 2002/12/17 22:51:36 Uninstalling groff 2002/12/17 22:51:37 Uninstalling less 2002/12/17 22:51:37 Uninstalling patch 2002/12/17 22:51:38 Uninstalling sysvinit 2002/12/17 22:51:38 Uninstalling _update-info-dir 2002/12/17 22:51:38 mbox note: Can't open (null) for reading: No such file 2002/12/17 22:51:39 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gcc-mingw/gcc-mingw-20020817-3.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:39 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:51:41 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ gdb/gdb-20021215-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:51:41 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:07 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ groff/groff-1.18.1-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:07 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:14 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ less/less-378-1.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:14 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:14 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ patch/patch-2.5.8-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:14 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:15 Installing file://D:\Documents and Settings\JC\Desktop\Cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release/ sysvinit/sysvinit-2.84-2.tar.bz2 2002/12/17 22:52:15 compress_bz::error called 2002/12/17 22:52:15 mbox note: Can't open (null) for reading: No such file 2002/12/17 22:52:20 running: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/gcc-mingw.sh 2002/12/17 22:52:24 running: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/sysvinit.sh 2002/12/17 22:52:26 mbox note: Installation incomplete. Check /setup.log.full for details 2002/12/17 22:52:29 Ending cygwin install From rbelenov@yandex.ru Thu Dec 19 04:01:00 2002 From: rbelenov@yandex.ru (Roman Belenov) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:01:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> =?iso-8859-1?q?(Mart=EDn?= De Marchi's message of "Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:12:24 +0000") References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: You need rootless mode (add -rootless to X server command-line). It's not perfect ("main window" still exist, though invisible; you still need to launch some X11 window manager to draw window borders); multiwindow mode should provide seamless X11/Windows integraton when it is finished. Mart??n De Marchi writes: > There is any way to hide de X window ? > That is, I want launch the remote program from > a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want > see only the windows of this program and not the > X main window... > Can I make this? -- With regards, Roman. From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 04:14:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: Failed to open input method Message-ID: Hi, Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the following messages after upgrading XFree86: $ xterm Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default Failed to open input method The Xwin.log says: winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(n ull)" Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to enable UK keyboards: set meta-flag on set convert-meta off set output-meta on but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's related to this problem. Thanks for any help JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From kostya@rice.edu Thu Dec 19 07:44:00 2002 From: kostya@rice.edu (Konstantin N. Kudin) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:44:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin.bat - errors after that Message-ID: Hello all, I've tried to upgrade Cygwin and started to run into problems when starting X via startxwin.bat Once it is started and I get the X windows and an xterm, I tried to open another xterm by typing >xterm & However, it gives the followling error message that I have not seen before: 7 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: child 1808(0x48C) died before initialization with status code 0x80 4484 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: *** child state child loading dlls xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable Earlier versions of Cygwin/Xfree worked fine. Thinking that the installation packages might have gotten corrupted, I did a clean download and reinstall. This did not change a thing, I still get the same error message. The system is W2k with SP2. It is weird that Cygwin did not create my user name during the initialization so I had to edit the /etc/passwd file to put it there. Also I changed my default shell to /usr/bin/tcsh. This is probably irrelevant however. The startx command still seem to work fine. I would like to pass some options to XWin as I did before with the startxwin.bat file, however, I am not sure how to do this via startx. Any suggestions/help is appreciated! Regards, Konstantin From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 07:49:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: failed to open input method Message-ID: Here's a bit more information.I noticed in the Xwin.log it said - (EE) Unable to locate/open config file InitOutput - Error reading config file Which config file is it referring to? Cheers, JS. u752359@A217447D ~ $ Xwin& [1] 1164 u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker& [2] 460 u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker fatal error: could not open display "" DISPL bash: DISPL: command not found [2]+ Exit 1 wmaker u752359@A217447D ~ $ DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0 u752359@A217447D ~ $ export DISPLAY u752359@A217447D ~ $ xhost+& [2] 1376 [2]+ Exit 127 xhost+ u752359@A217447D ~ $ xhost +& [2] 1544 u752359@A217447D ~ $ access control disabled, clients can connect from any host [2]+ Done xhost + u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker& [2] 528 u752359@A217447D ~ $ wmaker warning: could not open IM u752359@A217447D ~ $ xterm& [3] 1532 u752359@A217447D ~ $ Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default Failed to open input method u752359@A217447D ~ $ echo $LANG en_UK.ISO8859-1 u752359@A217447D ~ $ cat .Xdefaults *xnlLanguage: en_UK.ISO8859-1 *international: true u752359@A217447D ~ $ cat /tmp/xwin.log OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0 winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (EE) Unable to locate/open config file InitOutput - Error reading config file winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1152 h: 864 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 811 r 1146 l 0 b 811 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4584 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! (EE) Unable to locate/open config file InitOutput - Error reading config file winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1146 h: 811 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1140 h 786 r 1140 l 0 b 786 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4560 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 19 07:49:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: failed to open input method In-Reply-To: Message-ID: J S wrote: > Here's a bit more information.I noticed in the Xwin.log it said - > (EE) Unable to locate/open config file > InitOutput - Error reading config file > > Which config file is it referring to? /etc/X11/XF86Config. But you only need it if you want to set an other keyboard layout. With the locale probleme I can't help. Maybe you can get more help on the XFree xpert mailing list bye ago NP: Silke Bischoff - The Crystal Lake -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 07:55:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:55:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails Message-ID: Hi, Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps saying: $ which /usr/bin/ls /usr/bin/ls: Command not found. My path appears to be OK: $ echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive /c/Program Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old cygwin I had: $ which usage: which [-a] command... $ ls -l which -rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which Any ideas what could be going wrong? JS. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Thu Dec 19 09:29:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:29:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021219120046.59093.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> correct syntax of which is "which ls", remember that the goal of which is to show the path of the command you give as a parameter. see "man which". --- J S a ??crit : > Hi, > > Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps > saying: > > $ which /usr/bin/ls > /usr/bin/ls: Command not found. > > > My path appears to be OK: > > $ echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv > e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive > /c/Program > Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv > e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 > > The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old > cygwin I > had: > > $ which > usage: which [-a] command... > > $ ls -l which > -rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which > > > Any ideas what could be going wrong? > > JS. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 09:31:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:31:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails Message-ID: Sorry I copied the wrong line. This is what I'm getting even after doing a reinstall: u752359@A217447D ~ $ which ls ls: Command not found. >correct syntax of which is "which ls", remember that the goal of which >is to show the path of the command you give as a parameter. > >see "man which". > --- J S a ??crit : > Hi, > > > > Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps > > saying: > > > > $ which /usr/bin/ls > > /usr/bin/ls: Command not found. > > > > > > My path appears to be OK: > > > > $ echo $PATH > > >/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv > > >e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive > > /c/Program > > >Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv > > e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 > > > > The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old > > cygwin I > > had: > > > > $ which > > usage: which [-a] command... > > > > $ ls -l which > > -rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which > > > > > > Any ideas what could be going wrong? > > > > JS. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 09:44:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: Failed to open input method Message-ID: The "Could not init font path ..." error is in the FAQ: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-removing-font-path-element Don't know if the "Xlib locale" business is a side-effect of the font problem, or something else. >From: "J S" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Failed to open input method >Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:57:18 +0000 > >Hi, > >Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the following >messages after upgrading XFree86: > >$ xterm >Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged >Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C >Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default >Failed to open input method > >The Xwin.log says: > >winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 >bpp 24 >winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () >winScreenInit - returning >(EE) No primary keyboard configured >(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard >Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options >= "(n >ull)" >Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing >from >list! >Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing >from >list! >Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing >from >list! > >I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to >enable UK keyboards: > >set meta-flag on >set convert-meta off >set output-meta on > >but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's >related to this problem. > >Thanks for any help > >JS. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Dec 19 18:35:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:35:00 -0000 Subject: which command fails Message-ID: > >On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, J S wrote: > > > Sorry I posted this to the wrong group. > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >Since I upgraded cygwin I can't use the which command. It keeps saying: > > > > > >$ which /usr/bin/ls > > >/usr/bin/ls: Command not found. > > > > > > > > >My path appears to be OK: > > > > > >$ echo $PATH > > > >/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/wmaker/bin:/cygdriv > > > >e/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/ora8i/bin:/cygdrive > > >/c/Program > > > >Files/Oracle/jre/1.1.7/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/E!PC:/cygdrive/c/ACE/rdbms32/bin:/cygdriv > > >e/c/Program Files/Attachmate/E!E2K/:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1 > > > > > >The which also looks OK, and is the same as the which in the old cygwin >I > > >had: > > > > > >$ which > > >usage: which [-a] command... > > > > > >$ ls -l which > > >-rwx------ 1 544 10513 4608 Nov 15 2001 which > > > > > >Any ideas what could be going wrong? > > > > > >JS. > >Yes. You have ntsec on (it's on by default starting from 1.3.13, IIRC), >and the files in your /bin have the wrong permissions. Try > >$ chmod -R a+rx /bin > >and see if it solves the problem. You might also want to update your >passwd and group files - search this list for instructions. > Igor Igor, Thanks, that was it. I did chmod -R a+rx * and that fixed the Xfree problem I was having with 'failed to open input method' as well. I didn't realise the permissions had changed in Cygwin now, looks like I'll have to go back to the documentation and read up on it again. Thanks for your help. JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Dec 20 08:38:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:38:00 -0000 Subject: Failed to open input method Message-ID: You know, after sending this reply I actually went and read the FAQ I was pointing you to. It looks to be quite out of date in that it refers to the Xinstall.sh script, which is not how XFree86 is installed any more. What you need to do is run the Cygwin Setup program, and on the 3rd screen, there is a pair of radio buttons under the label "Default Text File Type". Make sure "Unix" is picked, not "DOS". >From: "Thomas Chadwick" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, vervoom@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Failed to open input method >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:44:35 -0500 > >The "Could not init font path ..." error is in the FAQ: > >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-removing-font-path-element > >Don't know if the "Xlib locale" business is a side-effect of the font >problem, or something else. > > >>From: "J S" >>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Failed to open input method >>Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:57:18 +0000 >> >>Hi, >> >>Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the >>following messages after upgrading XFree86: >> >>$ xterm >>Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged >>Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C >>Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default >>Failed to open input method >> >>The Xwin.log says: >> >>winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 >>bpp 24 >>winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () >>winScreenInit - returning >>(EE) No primary keyboard configured >>(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard >>Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options >>= "(n >>ull)" >>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, >>removing from >>list! >>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing >>from >>list! >>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, >>removing from >>list! >> >>I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to >>enable UK keyboards: >> >>set meta-flag on >>set convert-meta off >>set output-meta on >> >>but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's >>related to this problem. >> >>Thanks for any help >> >>JS. >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Dec 20 16:22:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:22:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin.bat - errors after that Message-ID: >From: "Konstantin N. Kudin" >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: >Subject: startxwin.bat - errors after that >Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:22:04 -0600 (CST) > > Hello all, > > I've tried to upgrade Cygwin and started to run into problems when >starting X via startxwin.bat Once it is started and I get the X windows >and an xterm, I tried to open another xterm by typing >xterm & >However, it gives the followling error message that I have not seen >before: > > 7 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: child 1808(0x48C) died before >initialization with status code 0x80 > 4484 [main] xterm 1772 sync_with_child: *** child state child loading >dlls >xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable > > Earlier versions of Cygwin/Xfree worked fine. Thinking that the >installation packages might have gotten corrupted, I did a clean download >and reinstall. This did not change a thing, I still get the same error >message. The system is W2k with SP2. It is weird that Cygwin did not >create my user name during the initialization so I had to edit the >/etc/passwd file to put it there. Also I changed my default shell to >/usr/bin/tcsh. This is probably irrelevant however. Just a shot in the dark here. Do a search on your system for the file "cygwin1.dll". Make sure there is only one, and that it's in the cygwin tree (c:\cygwin\usr\bin\cygwin1.dll by default). > The startx command still seem to work fine. I would like to pass some >options to XWin as I did before with the startxwin.bat file, however, I am >not sure how to do this via startx. > > Any suggestions/help is appreciated! > > Regards, > Konstantin Running "man startx" from a bash prompt tells you everything you could ever want to know about startx. In short, to pass parameters to the XServer, use this syntax "startx -- -serverparm". For example: startx -- -rootless tells startx to tell XWin to start in rootless mode. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Sat Dec 21 08:20:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:20:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? Thanks. Roman Belenov wrote: > You need rootless mode (add -rootless to X server command-line). It's > not perfect ("main window" still exist, though invisible; you still > need to launch some X11 window manager to draw window borders); > multiwindow mode should provide seamless X11/Windows integraton when > it is finished. > > Mart??n De Marchi writes: > > There is any way to hide de X window ? > > That is, I want launch the remote program from > > a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want > > see only the windows of this program and not the > > X main window... > > Can I make this? > > -- > With regards, Roman. From john@io.com Sat Dec 21 09:00:00 2002 From: john@io.com (John Buttery) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:00:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <20021219173113.GB4230@io.com> * Mart?n De Marchi [2002-12-19 14:42:36 +0000]: > Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rrschulz@cris.com Sun Dec 22 11:35:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:35:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> References: <3DFE1B2A.55140210@fi.uba.ar> <3DFF7718.D8C6420@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20021219093559.02ce4c30@pop3.cris.com> Martin, When I need to know about command-line options or environment variables that are not documented or for commands for which documentation is not available or at hand, I do something like this: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e "-rootless" -rootless EXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in pseudo-rootless mode. -rootless Here it appears both the strings from the argument processing code and the usage message are found. This, then, suggests that there is a help message available. This command: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e "^-" produces 123 lines, including this one: -help prints message with these options (Note that this particular program does not abide by the POSIX conventions stipulating the use of two hyphens for multiple-character option names.) However, you may be surprised at the result of invoking "XWin -help", which is to say you'll see no output (nor will the X server start up). The help output _is_ produced, but it goes into "/tmp/XWin.log" (!) I hope that helps, especially by adding to your repertoire of self-help techniques. Randall Schulz At 06:42 2002-12-19, Mart?n De Marchi wrote: >Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? > >Thanks. From booker@lava.net Mon Dec 23 13:32:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:32:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: <3E01DADC.1AC86695@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: <008601c2a7d0$27cfc840$9c484140@lava.net> I'm trying to configure my xhost to be secure. Every time I start and x server (startxwin.bat) xhost is configured wide open: $ xhost access control disabled, clients can connect from any host INET:host-1.fakedomain.net INET:host-1.fakedomain.net INET:localhost LOCAL: I have to always type xhost - so that I can get: "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect" So 2 questions: 1. How can I get xhost by default configured with access control enabled by default? 2. How can I removed a hostname in xhost that has a "-" in it.? In the above example if I do a xhost -host-1.fakedomain.net it doesn't work. There are no /etc/X.* files on my machines so I don't know where to manually delete that entry. Any suggestions? Mahalo, Booker From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 23 14:30:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:30:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: <008601c2a7d0$27cfc840$9c484140@lava.net> Message-ID: Booker wrote: > I have to always type xhost - so that I can get: > "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect" How is XWin started. Maybe with the -ac parameter? Or is xhost called earlier? > > So 2 questions: > > 1. How can I get xhost by default configured with access control enabled > by default? This should be the default value. Please check if the -ac parameter was used on XWin startup or xhost is called during startup. > 2. How can I removed a hostname in xhost that has a "-" in it.? > In the above example if I do a xhost -host-1.fakedomain.net it doesn't > work. There are no /etc/X.* files on my machines so I don't know where > to manually delete that entry. Any suggestions? Try using the ip addess. bye ago NP: grauzone.02-12-09 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Dec 23 15:45:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:45:00 -0000 Subject: Windows Manager In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20021219093559.02ce4c30@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: <20021221002217.16474.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> couldn't that be output on stderr/stdout ? > > However, you may be surprised at the result of invoking "XWin -help", > which > is to say you'll see no output (nor will the X server start up). The > help > output _is_ produced, but it goes into "/tmp/XWin.log" (!) > > > I hope that helps, especially by adding to your repertoire of > self-help > techniques. > > Randall Schulz > > > At 06:42 2002-12-19, Mart??n De Marchi wrote: > >Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? > > > >Thanks. > ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From booker@lava.net Mon Dec 23 15:57:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:57:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c2a90c$cb4df220$a4484140@lava.net> > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Gottwald > Subject: Re: xhost configuration > Booker wrote: > > > I have to always type xhost - so that I can get: > > "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect" > > How is XWin started. Maybe with the -ac parameter? Or is > xhost called earlier? It was started with the -ac parameter. Thanks for the tip! I took it out and xhost has access controls enabled by default now.. I have been trying out gnome, kde and some other desktop environments. I think the command line that the kde readme recommended had the -ac parameter in it. Below is part of my hacked up startxwin.bat file. ========== REM Startup the X Server. REM REM start XWin start XWin.exe -screen 0 1024x768x16 -engine 4 -ac -nowinkill -noreset -emulate3buttons 100 start /B xwinclip.exe REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash REM Startup the twm window manager. REM REM run twm run /usr/local/bin/blackbox ========== I took at look at the docs http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html and there is no mention of the -ac parameter. Nor does doing a XWin.exe -h or /h or ? or just running XWin.exe provide any command line parameters. > > > 2. How can I removed a hostname in xhost that has a "-" in it.? > > In the above example if I do a xhost -host-1.fakedomain.net > it doesn't > > work. There are no /etc/X.* files on my machines so I > don't know where > > to manually delete that entry. Any suggestions? > > Try using the ip addess. > That doesn't work. But the hostname did not have actual dns entries I added it to our dns server. That seemed to have worked but it only takes out one of the entries. On startup it always has duplicate entries: access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net INET:localhost LOCAL: I can do a xhost -chocolae-meat.lava.net and it takes out one of the entries. But it doesn't take out the duplicate entry. And when I exit X and restart it (startxwin.bat), it has both entries again as above. Any other hints? Booker From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 23 16:28:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:28:00 -0000 Subject: xhost configuration In-Reply-To: <000901c2a90c$cb4df220$a4484140@lava.net> Message-ID: Booker wrote: > I took at look at the docs > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html > and there is no mention of the -ac parameter. The page does only describe the options that are specific to XWin. The default parameters are described in the Xserver manpage. > Nor does doing a XWin.exe > -h or /h or ? or just running XWin.exe provide any command line > parameters. It does. But the output is redirected to /tmp/XWin.log Maybe this should be added to the options page in the users-guide. > That doesn't work. But the hostname did not have actual dns entries > I added it to our dns server. That seemed to have worked but it only > takes out one of the entries. On startup it always has duplicate > entries: Is this the host where xfree is running? I think these entries are added to allow connections from the host where the xserver is running. I think the entry is added twice because the host might have to network interfaces and they are sharing the same hostname > access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect > INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net > INET:chocolate-meat.lava.net > INET:localhost > LOCAL: > > I can do a xhost -chocolae-meat.lava.net and it takes out one of the > entries. But it doesn't take out the duplicate entry. And when I exit > X and restart it (startxwin.bat), it has both entries again as above. > Any other hints? If this is the host where xwin is running, then you can ignore these entries. bye ago NP: Silke Bischoff - The Devils Teeth -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cgf@redhat.com Mon Dec 23 16:56:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:56:00 -0000 Subject: remove separate xfree directories from ftp download? Message-ID: <20021222193506.GA26368@redhat.com> Would it be possible to remove the xfree directory in the ftp area on sources.redhat.com? Can't we just use the mechanisms available with cygwin's setup and put test releases in the setup hierarchy? At the very least could we get rid of some of the older files from that directory? cgf From kumarchi@attbi.com Mon Dec 23 17:01:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:01:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work Message-ID: hello: I am running 2 pc's wiht cygwin in local network. The pc names are not explicitly in the /etc/hosts file. however telnet, rsh all work fine when I do telnet where is the windows machine name however I cannot make xterm remotely display. It always comes back with the message unable to find display. I have tried setting the display with the ip addres I got from windows ipconfig. That also does not work. What am I missing? Thanx From booker@lava.net Tue Dec 24 05:23:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 05:23:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work In-Reply-To: <20021223213304.16518133F6@babingka.lava.net> Message-ID: <008801c2aad2$d0d8abf0$c17f4140@lava.net> Aloha, If I understand you correctly, you are running 1 pc as an X server and you are trying to open an xterm session from pc 2 so it can be displayed on pc 1. If so have you tried : http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html I'm no where near understanding how X works myself. Only started using it a few weeks ago. But I think that doc will help you. Mahalo, Booker Apelin System Administrator -- LavaNet, Inc. PGP Key : http://friedbanana.lava.net/pgp.asc > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of kumarchi@attbi.com > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:32 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work > > > hello: > > I am running 2 pc's wiht cygwin in local network. The pc > names are not > explicitly in the /etc/hosts file. > > however telnet, rsh all work fine when I do From kumarchi@attbi.com Tue Dec 24 08:21:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:21:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work Message-ID: Well I missed the export DISPLAY part. but after doing that I get Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: no protocol specified Xterm: xt error cannot open display -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Booker" To: Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:29:54 -1000 Subject: RE: remote xterm - how can I make it work Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Reply-to: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Aloha, If I understand you correctly, you are running 1 pc as an X server and you are trying to open an xterm session from pc 2 so it can be displayed on pc 1. If so have you tried : http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html I'm no where near understanding how X works myself. Only started using it a few weeks ago. But I think that doc will help you. From kumarchi@attbi.com Tue Dec 24 10:50:00 2002 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:50:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work Message-ID: I atlast figured it out I had to do xhost + and add to the remote control list ( i guess i will put it in .xinitrc) so the steps are xhost + remote_machine (setenv) DISPLAY export DISPLAY thanx From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 24 10:52:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:52:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kumarchi@attbi.com wrote: > xhost + > and add to the remote control list ( i guess i will put it in .xinitrc) After reading that and the telnet thing from the first post I _have_ to add some security notes. First: telnet is bad! With telnet everything you enter is sent unprotected over the network. Everybody on the path between the local and the remote host can read all you enter. Even passwords. _Instead of telnet, use ssh where possible!_ Using xhost is a security problem too. You allow everyone on the remote host to connect to your xserver. This means again he can control the complete X11 desktop (and capture any keystrokes). Normally these authentication is done via a autogenerated password (called cookies). You can show and edit this authentication info with the program xauth. The X11 forwarding option of ssh tries to bypass this vulnerabiltiy. You only connect to a virtual xserver to which only _you_ can connect and all network traffic to the real xserver is encrypted by ssh. So no one on the network can listen what you do. In short: Use ssh! "ssh -X remotehost" will create a connection to the remote host and set up everthing for X11 forwarding. Ever xclient started on the remotehost within the session is automaticly forward to your display. bye ago, writing long christmas security information Merry Christmas to everone on the list! NP: grauzone.02-12-23 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From booker@lava.net Tue Dec 24 15:18:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:18:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ce01c2aae7$46865050$c17f4140@lava.net> I agree with Alexander here. In your scenario kumarchi, it sounds like you have an isolated lan so it wouldn't matter as much. But you should practice using the ssh -X tunneling method. It's a lot simpler, i.e. you don't need to configure your $DISPLAY, you don't have you monkey with xhosts, no need to mess with .x* files. Mahalo, Booker > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:28 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: remote xterm - how can I make it work > > In short: > > Use ssh! > "ssh -X remotehost" will create a connection to the remote > host and set up > everthing for X11 forwarding. Ever xclient started on the > remotehost within > the session is automaticly forward to your display. > > From booker@lava.net Thu Dec 26 18:39:00 2002 From: booker@lava.net (Booker) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:39:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with ssh -X error message. In-Reply-To: <20021223235746.916B0133C1@babingka.lava.net> Message-ID: <00cf01c2aae7$e8ba3580$c17f4140@lava.net> Aloha, When I connect to server using ssh -X ... I can log in fine, but when I log in an error message is displayed: Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. but I continue with my log in and get into my shell. I can run xclients fine and they tunnel back over the ssh connection. But I am confused as to why I get that error message and everything still works. Booker MELE KALIKIMAKA to everyone also! http://64.224.244.55/ From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Dec 26 19:24:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:24:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with ssh -X error message. In-Reply-To: <00cf01c2aae7$e8ba3580$c17f4140@lava.net> Message-ID: Booker wrote: > Aloha, > > When I connect to server using ssh -X ... I can log in fine, but when I > log in an error message is displayed: > > Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 ^^^^^^^^^^ > forwarding. > > but I continue with my log in and get into my shell. I can run xclients > fine and they tunnel back over the ssh connection. But I am confused as > to why I get that error message and everything still works. It's not an error. It's a warning. By default the xserver is not setup to use the authentication cookies. ssh normally uses these cookies. But if none is set, ssh will print this warning bye ago NP: grauzone.02-12-23 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From zakki@peppermint.jp Fri Dec 27 03:31:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:31:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode Message-ID: Hi, This is the patch solve moving window proble. The proble of former patch In Multi-window mode if X window moves Windows window move, and vice versa. When there are "move to A and move to B" message in queue. Windows window move to point A X window move to point A(this make Windows window move to A) Window window move B X window move to point B(this make Windows window move to B) Windows window move to point A X window move to point A(this make Windows window move to A) Window window move B X window move to point B(this make Windows window move to B) ...so never stop. In this path, it waits a minutes to ignores continuously message and only processes move to point B when it receive WM_MOVE. Kensuke Matsuzaki -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(rsh and other remote application work fine) From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 27 08:52:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 08:52:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm - how can I make it work - ssh error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kumarchi@attbi.com wrote: > but when I try ssh I get the following (both ssh and ssh -X) > ssh connect to host port 22: connection refused > do I need any special set up for ssh? The ssh server is not running. Or maybe not installed. bye ago NP: Apoptygma Berzerk - Half Asleep -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Dec 27 09:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:07:00 -0000 Subject: remove separate xfree directories from ftp download? References: <20021222193506.GA26368@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3E0BBD40.2010304@msu.edu> Chris, I cleaned it up. There was a lot of crap that was not being used, but the one directory that is left, devel, is still needed. Harold Christopher Faylor wrote: > Would it be possible to remove the xfree directory in the ftp area on > sources.redhat.com? Can't we just use the mechanisms available with > cygwin's setup and put test releases in the setup hierarchy? > > At the very least could we get rid of some of the older files from > that directory? > > cgf From cgf@redhat.com Fri Dec 27 12:50:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:50:00 -0000 Subject: remove separate xfree directories from ftp download? In-Reply-To: <3E0BBD40.2010304@msu.edu> References: <20021222193506.GA26368@redhat.com> <3E0BBD40.2010304@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021227032355.GA14760@redhat.com> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 09:38:56PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >I cleaned it up. There was a lot of crap that was not being used, but >the one directory that is left, devel, is still needed. Thanks a lot Harold. Hard to believe in this day and age but we are running out of disk space on this system. Cleanups are appreciated. Also, a belated Merry Christmas to you and everyone in this mailing list. cgf From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Dec 27 17:41:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:41:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 Message-ID: <20021227113107.GC784@fairlite.demon.co.uk> I'm about to commit a patch to the XFree86 CVS that uses the new relocation code in cygwin 1.3.18. This allows us to create the last few libraries as shared code. Here's the patch if people would like to test first. I've build tested the entire tree without problems, but not tested cross compiling. Alan. Index: config/cf/cygwin.cf =================================================================== RCS file: /X11R6/x-cvs/xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf,v retrieving revision 3.48 diff -u -r3.48 cygwin.cf --- config/cf/cygwin.cf 28 Nov 2002 16:50:58 -0000 3.48 +++ config/cf/cygwin.cf 27 Dec 2002 01:06:21 -0000 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ #define UseGas YES #define GnuCpp YES -#define ExtraLoadFlags -Wl,--enable-auto-import +#define ExtraLoadFlags -Wl,--enable-auto-import -Wl,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc #define HasShadowPasswd NO #define HasLibCrypt YES Index: config/cf/cygwin.rules =================================================================== RCS file: /X11R6/x-cvs/xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules,v retrieving revision 3.22 diff -u -r3.22 cygwin.rules --- config/cf/cygwin.rules 17 Oct 2002 08:18:17 -0000 3.22 +++ config/cf/cygwin.rules 27 Dec 2002 01:06:21 -0000 @@ -7,11 +7,11 @@ #define HasSharedLibraries YES #define NeedLibInsideFlag NO #define ForceNormalLib NO -#define SharedLibXaw NO /* For these we need new binutils */ -#define SharedLibXmu NO -#define SharedLibXt NO -#define SharedLibFont NO -#define SharedLibXaw6 NO +#define SharedLibXaw YES +#define SharedLibXmu YES +#define SharedLibXt YES +#define SharedLibFont YES +#define SharedLibXaw6 YES #define SharedLibSM YES #define SharedLibICE YES #define SharedLibXext YES @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@ */ #define MakeDLLProg(libname,solist,prog,rev) @@\ - prog -shared -Wl,--out-implib=ImportLibraryName(libname,rev) -Wl,--enable-auto-import --def libname.def -Wl,--exclude-libs,ALL -o SharedLibraryName(libname,rev) solist $(REQUIREDLIBS) + prog -shared -Wl,--out-implib=ImportLibraryName(libname,rev) -Wl,--enable-auto-import -Wl,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc --def libname.def -Wl,--exclude-libs,ALL -o SharedLibraryName(libname,rev) solist $(REQUIREDLIBS) /* * MakeDll Index: lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp =================================================================== RCS file: /X11R6/x-cvs/xc/lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Xaw-def.cpp --- lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp 31 May 2002 18:45:44 -0000 1.2 +++ lib/Xaw/Xaw-def.cpp 27 Dec 2002 11:20:02 -0000 @@ -133,7 +133,7 @@ XawViewportSetLocation XawWidgetArray XawWidgetCount -#ifdef __UNIXOS2__ /* xconsole */ +#if defined(__CYGWIN__) || defined(__UNIXOS2__) /* xconsole, xedit */ _XawTextGetSTRING XawTextSourceAddEntity XawTextSourceAnchorAndEntity From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Dec 27 19:23:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:23:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021227113107.GC784@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > I'm about to commit a patch to the XFree86 CVS that uses the new relocation > code in cygwin 1.3.18. This allows us to create the last few libraries > as shared code. How will this affect people with cygwin <1.3.18? > I've build tested the entire tree without problems, but not tested > cross compiling. I'll try today. Or this weekend. I'll have to build cygwin too *g* bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sat Dec 28 03:41:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 References: <20021227113107.GC784@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E0C5FA2.1080802@ece.gatech.edu> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Alan Hourihane wrote: > > >>I'm about to commit a patch to the XFree86 CVS that uses the new relocation >>code in cygwin 1.3.18. This allows us to create the last few libraries >>as shared code. > > > How will this affect people with cygwin <1.3.18? It won't affect them (adversely). All that matters is that the developer's system has cygwin >= 1.3.18 (and "developer" also means anyone who is attempting to *compile* an X-based program, not just those who are compiling XFree86 itself). E.g. pure "users" who don't compile anything, will be fine. They can run the new binaries. --enable-pseudo-reloc tells the linker "don't worry about multi-word data imports; the runtime will fix them up". And, the "runtime" is actually a snippet of *static* code that gets linked into the dll/exe -- this static code is included in libcygwin1.a. Since it's static (e.g. not in cygwin1.dll), every compiled program/dll that needs it will have its very own copy; it doesn't matter if the user has an old version of cygwin1.dll. --Chuck From gri6507@yahoo.com Sat Dec 28 08:15:00 2002 From: gri6507@yahoo.com (Paul Grinberg) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:15:00 -0000 Subject: Problem compiling Eterm / imlib2 / freetype Message-ID: <20021227165211.3959.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I was trying to find a terminal not only capable of supporting transparency, but also capable of tinting (or shading, if you will) the transparent background. rxvt does not seem to handle this. I found Eterm to be a feasible solution. Problem is that to compile Eterm, I need imlib2, which, in turn, requires libttf.so - a dynamically linked freetype 1.2 library. I followed ths instructions for building a .so for freetype, but imlib2 does not seem to like it (dies during the configure script, saying that the library cannot be found). Is there an old libftt.so that I can download? Any suggestions for compiling freetype / imlib2? Are there any alternatives to using Eterm? Thanks, in advance, Paul Grinberg. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From aspinto@oninet.pt Sat Dec 28 08:19:00 2002 From: aspinto@oninet.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ant=F3nio_Pinto?=) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <20021227165211.3959.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101c2adca$1973be50$3a03a8c0@estgf.ipp.pt> Hi everyone, I'm triyng to use WindowsMaker but e get the following errors : wmaker warning: could not find user GNUstep directory (//GNUstep/Defaults/). Installing WindowMaker 0.80.0 for current user... Creating //GNUstep user directory mkdir: cannot create directory `//GNUstep': No such file or directory chmod: getting attributes of `//GNUstep': No such file or directory mkdir: cannot create directory `//GNUstep/.AppInfo': No such host or network chmod: getting attributes of `//GNUstep/.AppInfo': No such file or directory mkdir: cannot create directory `//GNUstep/Defaults': No such host or network chmod: getting attributes of `//GNUstep/Defaults': No such file or directory Copying defaults database... /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMGLOBAL: error /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu: /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMState: error 136 /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WMWindowAttributes error 136 /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst: cannot create //GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker: error 136 My system is a Dell running Win 2000, my Cygwin is the latest available version for download (downloaded today) and WindowMaker version is 0.8.0. thx, Ant?nio Pinto From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Dec 28 08:53:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:53:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > I've build tested the entire tree without problems, but not tested > > cross compiling. > > I'll try today. Or this weekend. I'll have to build cygwin too *g* The build was ok, except: config/cf/cygwin.tmpl needs #define SharedXfontReqs $(LDPRELIB) $(XLIBONLY) GzipLibrary $(FREETYPE2LIB) $(FONTSTUBLIB) and lib/font/Xfont-def.cpp was missing. I generated the file and attached it to this mail. Maybe we can remove these dependencies. Or do we still need these files, even with autoimport? But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error Error: Unresolved inheritance operation bye ago NP: Apoptygma Berzerk - Electronic Warfare -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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From cgf@redhat.com Sat Dec 28 09:11:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:11:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> References: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:40:50AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: >> But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error >> Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > >mmmm, just tried the binaries on my w2k box and it gives... > >"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022)...." Make sure that the binaries and dlls have chmod a+x permissions. cgf From thomas@waelde.de Sat Dec 28 09:26:00 2002 From: thomas@waelde.de (Thomas Wälde) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:26:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot open Display :0.0 Message-ID: <001601c2ae66$56a757e0$020110ac@twaelde> Dear all, pls, provide. I installed Cygwin on Win98 and isworking fine. However if i try to start the local X-Server, it does not work. The Display variable is set to the Ip-@ of the LAN-Interface and the X-Server is telling me, that he cannot open this display. Pls, help me. Thks in advance, happy Xmas and happy new year n Brgds Thomas From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sat Dec 28 09:36:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 References: Message-ID: <3E0DCDC9.2050206@ece.gatech.edu> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > and lib/font/Xfont-def.cpp was missing. I generated the file and attached it > to this mail. Maybe we can remove these dependencies. Or do we still need > these files, even with autoimport? It's really a case of whether auto-*export* is working. As is, ld will automatically export all symbols, unless: 1) you explicitly specify a .def file, or 2) ANY of your object files contain ANY symbol that is *already* marked with __declspec(dllexport). In that case, ld figures that you'd've marked every symbol you want to export and won't automatically add anything to the export list. 2) sometimes leads to non-intuitive behavior (e.g. glib, where Tor explicitly marked ONLY those symbols that were multi-word data items -- that is, where runtime-pseudo-relocs would be used in newer ld's -- and thus, ONLY those five symbols get exported, unless a .def file is used. Which is way more difficult to do with libtool than it should be. Sigh. If either 1) or 2) is true, but you WANT additional exports, you can either a) explicitly specify --export-all-symbols on the link line b) create and use a .def file if you were not previously doing so, or add the additional symbols to the .def file if you were already using one. So, the question is: "Is any symbol in the XFree86 codebase explicitly marked with __declspec(dllexport) when compiled for cygwin?" YES: then you DO need to keep the .def file (and note that ld is sensitive to whether the filename ends in ".def") or you must explicitly specify "--export-all-symbols" on the link line. NO: then the .def file can be discarded, and you can rely on the implicit export-all-symbols behavior (unless you want to restrict the export list to some subset of "all symbols"). (Oh, and the .def file does give you the in-built LIBRARY VERSION string...if that's important) > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation Dunno about this. --Chuck From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de Sat Dec 28 14:26:00 2002 From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:26:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test06 Message-ID: Hi all, Harold, I just figured out a problem that I have had with xwinclip-Test06. The Windows PeekMessage() message loop doesn't process all messages. When a message gets sent that is not processed, xwinclip starts an endless loop alternating between select() and PeekMessage(). The reason is the way PeekMessage() is called with a HWND as parameter. That filters messages, so only messages to that special HWND are returned and processed. Messages with a NULL HWND (like WM_QUIT or other, possibly Windows-internal messages) remain in the queue. I just commented out the creation of the dummy HWND, initialized that variable to NULL and everything works fine now. The HWND is only used for PeekMessage (where it's harmfull) and OpenClipboard() (where it's optional) so the whole thing can just be removed unless I am missing something. In addition the PeekMessage() loop should probably check for WM_QUIT, it currently ignores that even though the window proc actually sends it ;-). so long, benny From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sat Dec 28 14:37:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:37:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> References: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 10:23:22PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:40:50AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > >> But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > >> Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > > >mmmm, just tried the binaries on my w2k box and it gives... > > > >"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022)...." > > Make sure that the binaries and dlls have chmod a+x permissions. +x was missing. Thanks for the heads up Chris. Seems we'll need to tweak the build process to chmod them. Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Dec 29 20:41:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:41:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021228165610.GD780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation I can confirm I get this too Alexander. Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Dec 29 21:26:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:26:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228165610.GD780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > I can confirm I get this too Alexander. I'll do a build without the pseudo-relocation changes and see if it happens there too. I hope the error resulted from an incomplete installation (in fact I only started the binaries from the export dir and did no install at all) bye ago NP: Blutengel - Night Of Sin -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 05:11:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > Seems we'll need to tweak the build process to chmod them. Found the error. See attached patch. NP: Blutengel - Angel Dust III -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -------------- next part -------------- --- cygwin.rules.old Sat Dec 28 18:24:44 2002 +++ cygwin.rules Sat Dec 28 18:20:15 2002 @@ -240,7 +240,7 @@ #define InstallSharedLibrary(libname,rev,dest) @@\ InstallTarget(install,ImportLibraryName(libname,rev),$(INSTLIBFLAGS),$(USRLIBDIR)) @@\ -InstallTarget(install,SharedLibraryName(libname,rev),$(INSTLIBFLAGS),$(BINDIR)) @@\ +InstallTarget(install,SharedLibraryName(libname,rev),$(INSTBINFLAGS),$(BINDIR)) @@\ InstallLink(install,ImportLibraryName(libname,rev),ShortImportLibraryName(libname,rev),$(USRLIBDIR)) From cgf@redhat.com Mon Dec 30 07:48:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:48:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> References: <20021228014049.GA780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20021228032322.GA540@redhat.com> <20021228165321.GC780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20021228173617.GB14871@redhat.com> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 04:53:21PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 10:23:22PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:40:50AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:49:15 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: >> >> But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error >> >> Error: Unresolved inheritance operation >> > >> >mmmm, just tried the binaries on my w2k box and it gives... >> > >> >"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000022)...." >> >> Make sure that the binaries and dlls have chmod a+x permissions. > >+x was missing. Thanks for the heads up Chris. > >Seems we'll need to tweak the build process to chmod them. Yeah, this has been the subject of sporadic discussion over in cygwin-apps. It would be nice (TM, R, (C)) if setup.exe somehow did this for you so you wouldn't have to worry about it. cgf From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 12:26:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > > > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > > > I can confirm I get this too Alexander. > > I'll do a build without the pseudo-relocation changes and see if it happens > there too. I hope the error resulted from an incomplete installation (in fact > I only started the binaries from the export dir and did no install at all) Without the reloc patch everything is fine. The problem is _XtInherit. I'm now trying to build all libraries with the SUNSHLIB macro. maybe this works. At least xclock started after i replaced cygXt-6.dll with a version where SUNSHLIB was defined. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Dec 30 15:21:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021228223703.GF780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 11:26:35PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > > Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > > > But some programs (xedit, viewres, xmessage) report an runtime error > > > > Error: Unresolved inheritance operation > > > > > > I can confirm I get this too Alexander. > > > > I'll do a build without the pseudo-relocation changes and see if it happens > > there too. I hope the error resulted from an incomplete installation (in fact > > I only started the binaries from the export dir and did no install at all) > Without the reloc patch everything is fine. The problem is _XtInherit. I'm > now trying to build all libraries with the SUNSHLIB macro. maybe this works. > At least xclock started after i replaced cygXt-6.dll with a version where > SUNSHLIB was defined. Great work, let me have an extra patch when your ready Alexander. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 30 15:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:28:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test06 References: Message-ID: <3E0FCE66.60606@msu.edu> Benny, Yes, you are correct that NULL should be passed to PeekMessage rather than the handle to the messaging window. I have made this change now. However, I will leave in the messaging window as it is needed by many people that are working on patches, so it would be silly to remove all of that framework. I will try to make a new release of xwinclip shortly. Harold Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > Hi all, Harold, > > > I just figured out a problem that I have had with xwinclip-Test06. > > The Windows PeekMessage() message loop doesn't process all messages. > When a message gets sent that is not processed, xwinclip starts an > endless loop alternating between select() and PeekMessage(). > > The reason is the way PeekMessage() is called with a HWND as > parameter. That filters messages, so only messages to that special > HWND are returned and processed. Messages with a NULL HWND (like > WM_QUIT or other, possibly Windows-internal messages) remain in the > queue. > > I just commented out the creation of the dummy HWND, initialized that > variable to NULL and everything works fine now. The HWND is only used > for PeekMessage (where it's harmfull) and OpenClipboard() (where it's > optional) so the whole thing can just be removed unless I am missing > something. > > In addition the PeekMessage() loop should probably check for WM_QUIT, > it currently ignores that even though the window proc actually sends > it ;-). > > > so long, benny > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Dec 30 16:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:03:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 07 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 07 to the xwinclip development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ You can install the Test 07 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'release' package (and be sure to check the 'Bin' box): XFree86-xwinclip-4.2.0-07 xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test07.exe.bz2 (6 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20021229-2344.tar.bz2 (17 KiB) Changes: 1) wndproc.c - Pass NULL to PeekMessage instead of the hwnd for our messaging window, since this was causing some vital messages to be filtered out. (Benjamin Riefenstahl) 2) xwinclip.c - Use setjmp and longjmp to gracefully catch IO Errors and restart the process from the entry point. This should allow xwinclip to continue running when the X Server resets. (Chris Twiner) Enjoy, Harold From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 17:09:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:09:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: <20021228223703.GF780@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Without the reloc patch everything is fine. The problem is _XtInherit. I'm > > now trying to build all libraries with the SUNSHLIB macro. maybe this works. > > At least xclock started after i replaced cygXt-6.dll with a version where > > SUNSHLIB was defined. > > Great work, let me have an extra patch when your ready Alexander. This was an dead end. xedit and xmessage have still problems. Unfortunatly I can't debug the programs since gdb causes 100% load after "run" and does so for hours. So I don't even know where _XtInherit is called and whats different with the relocation. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Afterfire -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de Mon Dec 30 17:19:00 2002 From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:19:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test06 In-Reply-To: <3E0FCE66.60606@msu.edu> References: <3E0FCE66.60606@msu.edu> Message-ID: Hi Harold, Harold L Hunt II writes: > However, I will leave in the messaging window as it is needed by > many people that are working on patches, so it would be silly to > remove all of that framework. Of course. > I will try to make a new release of xwinclip shortly. Looks nice, I will try it right away. Thanks, benny From mdemarc@fi.uba.ar Mon Dec 30 17:23:00 2002 From: mdemarc@fi.uba.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= De Marchi) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:23:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems Message-ID: <3E1084FB.DEEA5A2@fi.uba.ar> Hi! I'm developing a linux application, but the majority of the pc's in my organization have installed windows system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the machines and use the linux application remotely. I need that the user (windows system) use the remote linux application (via xfree) and see the local windows file system (not the linux file system) for load and save files, to use the local printer. Is there any way for configure X and make this? Thanks! Mart??n. From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 22:19:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:19:00 -0000 Subject: Buildpatch for cygdps.dll Message-ID: Hi, the patch fixes some dependency problems with crosscompiling libdps. The Imakefile has a build dependency for ProgramTargetName(pswrap) which is pswrap.exe for cygwin, but should be pswrap when crosscompiling. This caused libdps to be recompiled whenever make or make install waas called for libdps. The patch changes the ProgramTargetName to HostProgramTargetName. Index: Imakefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/dps/Imakefile,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 Imakefile --- Imakefile 2002/06/06 01:40:21 1.15 +++ Imakefile 2002/12/30 23:16:57 @@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ includes:: $(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES) $(HEADERS) -$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) +$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) SRCS = \ ${COMMONSOURCEFILES} \ @@ -224,13 +224,13 @@ .SUFFIXES: .psw .h -.psw.c : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) +.psw.c : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -o $*.c -h $*.h $<) -.psw.h : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) +.psw.h : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -h $*.h $< > /dev/null) -ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): +HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): @echo "checking $@ over in $(PSWRAPSRC) first..."; \ cd $(PSWRAPSRC) && $(MAKE); \ echo "okay, continuing in $(CURRENT_DIR)" NP: VNV Nation - Saviour -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Dec 30 22:20:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:20:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: <3E1084FB.DEEA5A2@fi.uba.ar> Message-ID: Mart??n De Marchi wrote: > Hi! > > I'm developing a linux application, but the majority > of the pc's in my organization have installed windows > system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the > machines and use the linux application remotely. > I need that the user (windows system) use the > remote linux application (via xfree) and see the > local windows file system (not the linux file system) > for load and save files, to use the local printer. > Is there any way for configure X and make this? No. Using the remote application is like walking to the linux pc and working there. You don't have access to the windows host. The only way to exchange files is to use a network filesystem (SMB or AFS) and access this from linux and windows. Same for the printer. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Fragments -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Dec 31 02:08:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 02:08:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021231000327.76998.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Hasn't got cygwin any nfs port ? > No. Using the remote application is like walking to the linux pc and > working there. You don't have access to the windows host. The only > way > to exchange files is to use a network filesystem (SMB or AFS) and > access > this from linux and windows. Same for the printer. > > bye > ago > > NP: VNV Nation - Fragments > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 31 03:38:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 03:38:00 -0000 Subject: Buildpatch for cygdps.dll Message-ID: <200212310109.gBV19gc78070@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Alexander, Good catch! Alan - do you want to commit this directly? Harold Alexander Gottwald said: > Hi, > > the patch fixes some dependency problems with crosscompiling libdps. > The Imakefile has a build dependency for ProgramTargetName(pswrap) which > is pswrap.exe for cygwin, but should be pswrap when crosscompiling. This > caused libdps to be recompiled whenever make or make install waas called > for libdps. The patch changes the ProgramTargetName to HostProgramTargetName. > > Index: Imakefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/dps/Imakefile,v > retrieving revision 1.15 > diff -u -r1.15 Imakefile > --- Imakefile 2002/06/06 01:40:21 1.15 > +++ Imakefile 2002/12/30 23:16:57 > @@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ > > includes:: $(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES) $(HEADERS) > > -$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > +$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > SRCS = \ > ${COMMONSOURCEFILES} \ > @@ -224,13 +224,13 @@ > > .SUFFIXES: .psw .h > > -.psw.c : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > +.psw.c : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -o $*.c -h $*.h $<) > > -.psw.h : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > +.psw.h : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -h $*.h $< > /dev/null) > > -ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > +HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > @echo "checking $@ over in $(PSWRAPSRC) first..."; \ > cd $(PSWRAPSRC) && $(MAKE); \ > echo "okay, continuing in $(CURRENT_DIR)" > > NP: VNV Nation - Saviour > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 31 05:17:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:17:00 -0000 Subject: new runtime pseudo-reloc in cygwin 1.3.18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > So I don't even know where _XtInherit is called and whats different with the > relocation. gdb revealed: Dll1 (libXt) defines void _XtInherit(). Dll2 (libXaw) uses _XtInherit and passes it to a function in libXt which does if (x == _XtInherit) { foo() }; Unfortunatly it is not the same if _XtInherit is used in libXt or libXaw. the statement x = _XtInherit for example resulted in x = 0xb38478 for libXt and x = 0x641550 for libXaw. And thats why the if condition failed. A simple testcase is: test.h: typedef void (*f)(void); extern f _foo(void); extern void foo(void); //#define foo _foo() extern void test(void (*func)(void)); extern void run1(void); extern void run2(void); dll1.c: #include "test.h" #include #undef foo f _foo(void) { return foo; } void foo(void) { printf("Error\n"); } void test(void (*func)(void)) { if (func != foo) func(); else printf("skipped\n"); } void run1() { test(foo); } dll2.c: #include "test.h" void run2(void) { test(foo); } test.c: #include "test.h" #include int main(int argc, char ** argv) { printf("run1\n"); run1(); printf("run2\n"); run2(); return 0; } build (cygwin): $ gcc -shared -out-implib=dll1.a -Wl,--enable-auto-import,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc -o dll1.dll dll1.c $ gcc -shared -out-implib=dll2.a -Wl,--enable-auto-import,--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc -o dll2.dll dll2.c dll1.a $ gcc test.c dll1.a dll2.a -o test.exe $ ./test.exe run1 skipped run2 Error build (linux): $ gcc dll1.c -shared -o dll1.so $ gcc dll2.c -shared -o dll2.so $ gcc test.c dll1.so dll2.so -o test $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./test run1 skipped run2 skipped Enabling the define in test.h returns to the correct behaviour. I'll try tomorrow if I can change the XtInheritXXX defines to function calls and bypass these problems. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Joy -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Dec 31 05:36:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: <20021231000327.76998.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > Hasn't got cygwin any nfs port ? No. This does not make sense since the NFS driver must be attached to the windows VFS. It would be possible to write a fhandler for cygwin which does all the nfs stuff but then only cygwin programs could access the nfs files. It's the same as the /proc filesystem for cygwin. NP: VNV Nation - Procession -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 31 06:56:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 06:56:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: <20020626.180319.74745954.maru@on.cs.keio.ac.jp> Message-ID: Koji, Could you check the 4.2.0-7 version of Cygwin/XFree86's xwinclip package to make sure that it still works with Japanese characters on Windows NT/2000/XP? Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Dec 31 09:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:14:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Koji, Oops, I was thinking I was sending this to Kensuke... but now you can both verify that it still works :) Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 1:19 AM To: Koji Nakamaru Cc: cygx Subject: xwinclip Koji, Could you check the 4.2.0-7 version of Cygwin/XFree86's xwinclip package to make sure that it still works with Japanese characters on Windows NT/2000/XP? Thanks, Harold From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Tue Dec 31 09:35:00 2002 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:35:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BD6C7@EX-LONDON> actualy there is a working NFS server but its still in testing. (search the cygwin-apps mailing list for details) no NFS client i know of though. the URL was http://www.oneparticularharbor.net/cygwin/ only tried it for an afternoon though. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Gottwald > [mailto:Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de] > Sent: 31 December 2002 01:23 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: XFree and File Systems > > > Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > > > Hasn't got cygwin any nfs port ? > > No. This does not make sense since the NFS driver must be > attached to the > windows VFS. It would be possible to write a fhandler for > cygwin which > does all the nfs stuff but then only cygwin programs could access the > nfs files. It's the same as the /proc filesystem for cygwin. > > NP: VNV Nation - Procession > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From zakki@peppermint.jp Tue Dec 31 10:18:00 2002 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (zakki@peppermint.jp) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86n0mmmn2z.wl@zakki@peppermint.jp> Harold, I can't test it till January 6. I tested xwinclip which looks at event.xselection.selection instead of PRIMARY, and it worked fine. But I don't know whether other change has succeeded. Kensuke Matsuzaki From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Dec 31 15:34:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:34:00 -0000 Subject: Buildpatch for cygdps.dll In-Reply-To: <200212310109.gBV19gc78070@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> References: <200212310109.gBV19gc78070@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20021231131603.GA926@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Done. On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:09:42 -0500, Harold L Hunt wrote: > Alexander, > > Good catch! > > Alan - do you want to commit this directly? > > Harold > > Alexander Gottwald said: > > > Hi, > > > > the patch fixes some dependency problems with crosscompiling libdps. > > The Imakefile has a build dependency for ProgramTargetName(pswrap) which > > is pswrap.exe for cygwin, but should be pswrap when crosscompiling. This > > caused libdps to be recompiled whenever make or make install waas called > > for libdps. The patch changes the ProgramTargetName to > HostProgramTargetName. > > > > Index: Imakefile > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/dps/Imakefile,v > > retrieving revision 1.15 > > diff -u -r1.15 Imakefile > > --- Imakefile 2002/06/06 01:40:21 1.15 > > +++ Imakefile 2002/12/30 23:16:57 > > @@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ > > > > includes:: $(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES) $(HEADERS) > > > > -$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > +$(DPSOPSCFILES) $(PSOPSCFILES): HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > > > SRCS = \ > > ${COMMONSOURCEFILES} \ > > @@ -224,13 +224,13 @@ > > > > .SUFFIXES: .psw .h > > > > -.psw.c : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > +.psw.c : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -o $*.c -h $*.h $<) > > > > -.psw.h : ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > +.psw.h : HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)) > > RunProgram(PSWRAP,-a -h $*.h $< > /dev/null) > > > > -ProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > > +HostProgramTargetName($(PSWRAP)): > > @echo "checking $@ over in $(PSWRAPSRC) first..."; \ > > cd $(PSWRAPSRC) && $(MAKE); \ > > echo "okay, continuing in $(CURRENT_DIR)" > > > > NP: VNV Nation - Saviour > > -- > > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > > > > > From rasjidw@openminddev.net Tue Dec 31 15:37:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:37:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301010037.12015.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:28 am, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Mart??n De Marchi wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I'm developing a linux application, but the majority > > of the pc's in my organization have installed windows > > system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the > > machines and use the linux application remotely. > > I need that the user (windows system) use the > > remote linux application (via xfree) and see the > > local windows file system (not the linux file system) > > for load and save files, to use the local printer. > > Is there any way for configure X and make this? > > No. Using the remote application is like walking to the linux pc and > working there. You don't have access to the windows host. The only way > to exchange files is to use a network filesystem (SMB or AFS) and access > this from linux and windows. Same for the printer. The best and easiest way is to have a central server (eg NT, 2000, XP or for an open-source GPL solution, Mitel SME/E-Smith) with each user with a directory on the server \\centralserver\username. Then have something along the lines of: mkdir -p $HOME/windows smbmount //centralserver/$USER $HOME/windows called when they either log onto the linux box (via XDMCP) or run the program (via ssh for example). Exact implementation will depend on whether you are using XDMCP or ssh and various other factors. If you don't have a central windows (like) server, then I would recommend looking at the GPL version of Mitel SME (http://www.e-smith.org) - it is essentially a free NT server replacement without any user-license restrictions. If you *really* want the user to be looking at their local filesystem, and you are using ssh, then something along the lines of: WINDOWS_IP=`echo $SSH_CLIENT | cut -d' ' -f 1` mkdir -p $HOME/windows WINHOST=`nmblookup -A $WINDOWS_IP | head -n 2 | tail -n 1 | tr -s [:blank:] ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f 2` smbmount //$WINHOST/c$ $HOME/windows in either the logon script of your linux box, or in the start-up script of your program may do the trick. (The above assumes the same usernames on the Windows and Linux box.) If using XDMCP, then replace the first line with: WINDOWS_IP=`echo $DISPLAY | cut -d= -f 2 | cut -d: -f 1` In all the above, there are various issues with passwords and security that would need to be resolved before using in a production situation. See the manpages. You may also want to change //$WINHOST/c$ to //$WINHOST/mydocs or whatever. Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net