From sharminkabir@hotmail.com Tue Jan 1 09:26:00 2002 From: sharminkabir@hotmail.com (Sharmin Kabir) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 09:26:00 -0000 Subject: Backup X in linux Message-ID: Hello: I have an existing X installation in linux/redhat7.1, the installer Xinstall.sh told me. Before I install it, it is strongly recommended that I backup the existing installation before proceeding. Could you pl tell me how can I backup ??? I am very new in linux. Thanks Sharmin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From ewu@eskimo.com Tue Jan 1 10:50:00 2002 From: ewu@eskimo.com (Enoch W) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 10:50:00 -0000 Subject: Backup X in linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15410.1212.475000.480210@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Use Linux to back it up :) Here are the steps: 1) If you have not already done so, subscribe to a Linux mailing list. 2) Ask the Linux mailing list how to back up X in Linux. 3) If you have done the above and got no answer, a quick backup can be done by just renaming the X11R6 subdirectory to X11R6-old, and renaming any X11 subdirectory to X11-old, for example /etc/X11 ---> /etc/X11-old Happy New Year! Sharmin Kabir writes: > Hello: > I have an existing X installation in linux/redhat7.1, the installer > Xinstall.sh told me. Before I install it, it is strongly recommended that I > backup the existing installation before proceeding. Could you pl tell me how > can I backup ??? I am very new in linux. > > Thanks > > Sharmin > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jan 1 11:11:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 11:11:00 -0000 Subject: Backup X in linux Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266A75C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You should take this question to Linux mailing list please. Thanks Suhaib -----Original Message----- From: Sharmin Kabir To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent: 1/1/2002 12:26 PM Subject: Backup X in linux Hello: I have an existing X installation in linux/redhat7.1, the installer Xinstall.sh told me. Before I install it, it is strongly recommended that I backup the existing installation before proceeding. Could you pl tell me how can I backup ??? I am very new in linux. Thanks Sharmin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From rkarcher@frey.de Wed Jan 2 00:07:00 2002 From: rkarcher@frey.de (Reinhard Karcher) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 00:07:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate In-Reply-To: <003a01c18c53$f935a060$205c07d5@BRAMSCHE> References: <003a01c18c53$f935a060$205c07d5@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020102080559.GA610@kar.berlin.frey.de> On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 09:21:23AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote > while porting kde 2.2.1 to cygwin I recognized a xserver crash while starting kate. > The error is: > Fatal server error: > negative sized edge? I saw messages like this last summer, they had dissapeared when I returned from holidays August the 20th. Check, if you are using the latest X-Server. Try Harold's latest Testversion. Reinhard From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Wed Jan 2 01:47:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:47:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate In-Reply-To: <20020102080559.GA610@kar.berlin.frey.de> Message-ID: <002e01c19372$27ea35e0$865c07d5@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Reinhard Karcher > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:06 AM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Re: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate > > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 09:21:23AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote > > while porting kde 2.2.1 to cygwin I recognized a xserver crash while starting kate. > > The error is: > > Fatal server error: > > negative sized edge? > > I saw messages like this last summer, they had dissapeared when I > returned from holidays August the 20th. Check, if you are using the latest > X-Server. Try Harold's latest Testversion. > Thanks for this. I'm sorry for this stupid question. Of course I should have looked in the xfree website. Somebody other told me this too :-( BTW: Can anyone tell me, when this patch will go into the official cygwin xfree release ? Thanks Regards Ralf > Reinhard > > From rkarcher@frey.de Wed Jan 2 01:57:00 2002 From: rkarcher@frey.de (Reinhard Karcher) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:57:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate In-Reply-To: <002e01c19372$27ea35e0$865c07d5@BRAMSCHE> References: <20020102080559.GA610@kar.berlin.frey.de> <002e01c19372$27ea35e0$865c07d5@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020102095543.GB610@kar.berlin.frey.de> On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 10:45:04AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote > BTW: Can anyone tell me, when this patch will go into the official cygwin xfree release ? IIRC, XFree86 4.2.0 is approaching. So, we wont't see any new 4.1.0 releases and we have to wait for 4.2.0 Reinhard From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jan 2 05:25:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:25:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate In-Reply-To: <20020102095543.GB610@kar.berlin.frey.de> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Reinhard Karcher wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 10:45:04AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote > > BTW: Can anyone tell me, when this patch will go into the official cygwin xfree release ? > > IIRC, XFree86 4.2.0 is approaching. So, we wont't see any new 4.1.0 releases > and we have to wait for 4.2.0 >From cvs-commit@xfree.org: >From dawes@XFree86.Org Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: David Dawes dawes@XFree86.Org Subject: CVS Update: xc (branch: xf-4_1-branch) CVSROOT: /home/x-cvs Module name: xc Changes by: dawes@public.xfree86.org. 01/12/21 13:16:21 Log message: Update the version/date for the 4.1 branch, in preparation to tag a 4.1.0.1 snapshot. Note: this doesn't imply a 4.1.1 release will be coming. So you see we'll have 4.1.0 around some time. Maybe we should have a note in the installation instructions that newer server releases are available. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jan 2 05:37:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:37:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831F8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > From dawes@XFree86.Org Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) > From: David Dawes dawes@XFree86.Org > Subject: CVS Update: xc (branch: xf-4_1-branch) > > CVSROOT: /home/x-cvs > Module name: xc > Changes by: dawes@public.xfree86.org. 01/12/21 13:16:21 > > Log message: > Update the version/date for the 4.1 branch, in preparation > to tag a 4.1.0.1 > snapshot. Note: this doesn't imply a 4.1.1 release will be coming. > > So you see we'll have 4.1.0 around some time. Maybe we should > have a note > in the installation instructions that newer server releases > are available. > 4.1.x? or 4.2.o? I am lost. Suhaib > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Jan 2 06:45:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 06:45:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831F8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831F8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20020102144440.H2553@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:37:44AM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > From dawes@XFree86.Org Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) > > From: David Dawes dawes@XFree86.Org > > Subject: CVS Update: xc (branch: xf-4_1-branch) > > > > CVSROOT: /home/x-cvs > > Module name: xc > > Changes by: dawes@public.xfree86.org. 01/12/21 13:16:21 > > > > Log message: > > Update the version/date for the 4.1 branch, in preparation > > to tag a 4.1.0.1 > > snapshot. Note: this doesn't imply a 4.1.1 release will be coming. > > > > So you see we'll have 4.1.0 around some time. Maybe we should > > have a note > > in the installation instructions that newer server releases > > are available. > > 4.1.x? or 4.2.o? I am lost. > It means that there have been bug fixes on the xf-4_1-branch since XFree86 4.1.0 was released, but I doubt a 4.1.1 that ONLY fixes bugs against 4.1.0 will ever make it out. This branch indicates a stable 4.1.x line of servers. XFree86 4.2.0 will be the next release, it may have new bugs etc and there will be a xf-4_2-branch that will maintain the 4.2.x for stable servers. etc, etc, etc..... Alan. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jan 2 06:57:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 06:57:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate In-Reply-To: <20020102144440.H2553@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote: > It means that there have been bug fixes on the xf-4_1-branch since > XFree86 4.1.0 was released, but I doubt a 4.1.1 that ONLY fixes bugs > against 4.1.0 will ever make it out. This branch indicates a stable > 4.1.x line of servers. > > XFree86 4.2.0 will be the next release, it may have new bugs etc and > there will be a xf-4_2-branch that will maintain the 4.2.x for stable > servers. This was a clear word. 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Adquiera la base por mail: ventas@publicc.zzn.com o telefonicamente al 4942-0093 / 1556919849 Ademas contamos con las siguientes bases de datos: De empresas (con direccion, telefono, cantidad de empleados, facturacion anual, etc) De Fax: Para realizar su publicidad por fax Para telemarketing: Todos los rubros de empresas y servicios, profesionales, particulares, etc. Provinciales: 20.000 datos de cada provincia Consultenos por la base de su interes. From machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com Thu Jan 3 07:05:00 2002 From: machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com (Eduardo Machicao) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 07:05:00 -0000 Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86 In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831E9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20020103150506.37260.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> Dear list, I have followed the next steps to complete my Cygwin-XFree86-OpenDx installation: 1. I downloaded and installed tsch 6.11.00-3 and renamed tsch.exe to sch.exe. 2. Then I installed xpm-nox 4.1.0-1 (initially the file CYGXPM-X4.DLL was not found). Now, when I type dx at the $ prompt, I can see the main menu of OpenDx. But when I try to open any example file, the next message appears at the $ prompt: --------------------------------------------------- $ dx _dxl_ReadPortNumber: Bad file number timeout waiting for response from DX Internal error detected at "MacroDefinition.C":631. No files needed to be saved. --------------------------------------------------- And a window message: --------------------------------------------------- "Unable to connect to dxexec" --------------------------------------------------- Any suggestion would be appreciated, Eduardo Machicao --- Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > If I remember correctly, "not found" can be for two > reasons: > > 1) you may have a text mounted cygwin disk or your > dxworker script may be in > DOS format. > > 2) you also need to install tcsh for cygwin else > edit dxworker script > > Suhaib > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eduardo Machicao > [mailto:machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:53 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86 > > > > I am trying to install OpenDx for Cygwin-Xfree86 > under > > Windows 98. All was according to the instructions > > given in http://cygwin.com. I used the file called > > "setup.exe" for Cygwin. For OpenDx, I used > > "opendx-4.1.3-2-WIN32-setup.zip". > > I start the X server using "sh > > /usr/X11r6/bin/startxwin.sh". > > Typing "dx" at the $ prompt the next message > appears: > > > > "exec: /usr/local/dx/bin/dxworker: not found" > > > > And calling the *.bat files Buider, Editor, Menu, > > Prompter, Tutor appears: > > > > "CYGWIN1.DLL: Not Found" > > > > (But I can see "dxworker" and "cygwin.dll" in > > "c:\cygwin\usr\local\dx\bin\" and "c:\cygwin\bin\" > > respectively). > > > > The output for the "mount" command at the $ prompt > is: > > > > $ mount > > C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type user (binmode) > > C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type user (binmode) > > C:\cygwin on / type user (binmode) > > c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount) > > d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount) > > > > And my "cygwin.bat" file is: > > > > @echo on > > C: > > chdir \cygwin\bin > > SET oldpath=%path% > > SET > > > PATH=C:\cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\X11r6\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin;%ol > > dpath%PATH > > bash --login -i > > > > I know similar questions were posted here before. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > > Eduardo Machicao Valencia > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > http://greetings.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Thu Jan 3 10:22:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:22:00 -0000 Subject: BunZip and an extra question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020103182213.GC17348@redhat.com> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:40:48PM +0000, Mark Himsley wrote: >On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:14:27 -0600 you wrote: > >>------_=_NextPart_000_01C19471.B74767D0 >>Content-Type: image/gif; >> name="image001.gif" >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 >>Content-Disposition: attachment; >> filename="image001.gif" > >I think we'd all be grateful if you could stop sending HTML/GIF files to the >recipients on this list! > >>Hmm trying to follow the install procedure for Xfree86 and bunzip isn't >>happening. Is this a separate compression app I need to install? Also >>is cygwin blending in with my local windows environment, I right >>clicked in the cygwin box and got a lot of registry info and other >>stuff as a response to the mouse click. > >Maybe more information from you would elicit a reply. I'm sure that >you understand that "isn't happening" and "got a lot of registry info >and other stuff" does not give the list members much to go on and >therefore I expect your request for help will go un-heeded. Even more important -- use the correct mailing list. Personally, I'm amazed at the amount of trouble that the simple act of un-bzip2ing a tar archive generates for the cygwin-xfree project but they're somewhat used to dealing with these questions. So, send email to the cygwin-xfree mailing list and they'll probably help you. Can I again suggest that people redirect X-related questions to this mailing list? I've Cc'd this message there and reset the reply-to so that replies should go there as well. cgf From wilper-8@ludd.luth.se Thu Jan 3 10:28:00 2002 From: wilper-8@ludd.luth.se (Wilhelm Person) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:28:00 -0000 Subject: BunZip and an extra question In-Reply-To: <20020103182213.GC17348@redhat.com> Message-ID: IIRC bzip wasn't in the packages selected by default when I installed cygwin, perhaps if it was added we'd see fewer newbie-unable-to-unpack-questions. Or failing that, start to pack the stuff with regular gzip. /W On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:40:48PM +0000, Mark Himsley wrote: > >On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:14:27 -0600 you wrote: > > > >>------_=_NextPart_000_01C19471.B74767D0 > >>Content-Type: image/gif; > >> name="image001.gif" > >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > >>Content-Disposition: attachment; > >> filename="image001.gif" > > > >I think we'd all be grateful if you could stop sending HTML/GIF files to the > >recipients on this list! > > > >>Hmm trying to follow the install procedure for Xfree86 and bunzip isn't > >>happening. Is this a separate compression app I need to install? Also > >>is cygwin blending in with my local windows environment, I right > >>clicked in the cygwin box and got a lot of registry info and other > >>stuff as a response to the mouse click. > > > >Maybe more information from you would elicit a reply. I'm sure that > >you understand that "isn't happening" and "got a lot of registry info > >and other stuff" does not give the list members much to go on and > >therefore I expect your request for help will go un-heeded. > > Even more important -- use the correct mailing list. > > Personally, I'm amazed at the amount of trouble that the simple act of > un-bzip2ing a tar archive generates for the cygwin-xfree project but > they're somewhat used to dealing with these questions. > > So, send email to the cygwin-xfree mailing list and they'll probably > help you. > > Can I again suggest that people redirect X-related questions to this > mailing list? > > I've Cc'd this message there and reset the reply-to so that replies should > go there as well. > > cgf > +-------------------------------+ | Home: http://wilper.cjb.net | | E-mail: wilper@home.se | | ICQ: 18390479 | +-------------------------------+ From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jan 3 11:03:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:03:00 -0000 Subject: BunZip and an extra question In-Reply-To: References: <20020103182213.GC17348@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020103190327.GA19352@redhat.com> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:28:24PM +0100, Wilhelm Person wrote: >IIRC bzip wasn't in the packages selected by default when I installed >cygwin, perhaps if it was added we'd see fewer >newbie-unable-to-unpack-questions. cygwin-xfree != cygwin. cgf From sharminkabir@hotmail.com Thu Jan 3 11:57:00 2002 From: sharminkabir@hotmail.com (Sharmin Kabir) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:57:00 -0000 Subject: X in cygwin problem Message-ID: Hi, To start X in cygwin, I do the command "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh at the bash prompt all the time, otherwise I dont get X! Could you pl tell me where is the place to set up this path? Thanks in advance _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Jan 3 12:06:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:06:00 -0000 Subject: X in cygwin problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: /etc/profile, or ~/.profile, maybe add something like if ! echo $PATH | /bin/grep -q "/usr/X11R6/bin" ; then PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" fi (Well it has a bunch of safety-nets but..) /Andy / "Sharmin Kabir" wrote: | Hi, | To start X in cygwin, I do the command "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh | at the bash prompt all the time, otherwise I dont get X! Could you pl | tell me where is the place to set up this path? -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From r_g@lycos.com Thu Jan 3 15:22:00 2002 From: r_g@lycos.com (ganesan ramachandran) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 15:22:00 -0000 Subject: cannot find xwin/xterm/twm Message-ID: hi, i have windows xp pro. i downloaded & installed cygwin and xfree86 as per the step by step given in the webpage. when i try to open startxwin.bat from windows explorer, i get error messages like, cannot find xwin,xterm,twm.. i tried searching for the corresponding .exe files through windows search, but couldn't find them. a part of cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out gives the following details: Found: D:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Found: D:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe Not Found: cpp (good!) Found: D:\cygwin\bin\find.exe Not Found: gcc Not Found: gdb Not Found: ld Found: D:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe Not Found: make Found: D:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe Cygwin Package Information Last downloaded files to: Last downloaded files from: 8>= Package Version ash 20011018-1 bash 2.05a-2 cygwin 1.3.6-6 diff 0.0 fileutils 4.1-1 findutils 4.1 gawk 3.0.4-1 gdbm 1.8.0-3 grep 2.4.2-1 gzip 1.3.2-1 libncurses5 5.2-1 libncurses6 5.2-2 login 1.4-2 ncurses 5.2-7 readline 4.2-3 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 tar 1.13.19-1 termcap 20010825-1 terminfo 5.2-1 textutils 2.0.16-1 which 1.5-1 zlib 1.1.3-6 any suggestions? thanks in advance ganesan. -- Click here for your very own create-a-date adventure from MatchMaker Go to http://ecard.matchmaker.com/dating.html From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Thu Jan 3 15:37:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 15:37:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X11 In-Reply-To: <3C34E8C7.DDC8F00A@integrix.com> References: <3C34E8C7.DDC8F00A@integrix.com> Message-ID: <20020104003751.N27340@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:27:03PM -0800, Joseph I. Davida wrote: > I am running latest Cygwin with X11 which were > downloaded from > programming.ccp14.ac.uk > > I am running on win2K with all the latest patches. > > After some time (I think about an hour or more) > the Cygwin window in which I start X gets filled > with this inifinitely repeating message: > winShadowUpdateDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2 > > Is this a known bug? It's the wrong mailing list. Try cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Jan 3 22:26:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:26:00 -0000 Subject: cannot find xwin/xterm/twm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What packages did you install? xwin, xterm and twm should be in /usr/X11R6/bin Did you search for xwin.exe, twm.exe?? If you have them, doublecheck startxwin.bat to make sure it adds the directory where you installed xwin, xterm and twm /Andy / "ganesan ramachandran" wrote: | hi, i have windows xp pro. i downloaded & installed cygwin and | xfree86 as per the step by step given in the webpage. when i try to | open startxwin.bat from windows explorer, i get error messages like, | cannot find xwin,xterm,twm.. i tried searching for the corresponding | .exe files through windows search, but couldn't find them. a part of | cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out gives the following details: -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From vincent.arnoux@asml.com Fri Jan 4 01:48:00 2002 From: vincent.arnoux@asml.com (Vincent Arnoux) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 01:48:00 -0000 Subject: Error on starting twm Message-ID: <3C357A53.BCC1E114@rousset.france.asml.nl> Hello, I have a NT laptop with Cygwin installed on it. When I start Cygwin, no problem, but when I try to run startxwin.sh, no xterm will appear (even if the X server looks started : background, mouse working). If I start from Windows startxwin.bat, I get an xterm but with no prompt, and from this xterm, typing ./xterm will lead to a "xterm: Error 14, errno 2: No such file or directory". but starting a xclock will be OK. Is it a problem in my configuration files ? Thank you for helping me, Vincent -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vincent.arnoux.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 255 bytes Desc: Card for Vincent Arnoux URL: From G.Schulz@MIDATA.DE Fri Jan 4 05:12:00 2002 From: G.Schulz@MIDATA.DE (Schulz Georges) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 05:12:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Message-ID: I have installed cygwin-xfree on SuSE 7.0 and it works fine. But I can not get it to work with SuSE 7.3. I compared all the adjustments that I made on 7.0 and I keep getting time out errors. Also I can telnet and ftp to the 7.3. Can someone help me. Roger Gardner r.gardner@midata.de Telefon:06145-506 590 From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jan 4 06:19:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 06:19:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Schulz Georges wrote: > I have installed cygwin-xfree on SuSE 7.0 and it works fine. > But I can not get it to work with SuSE 7.3. I compared all > the adjustments that I made on 7.0 and I keep getting time > out errors. Also I can telnet and ftp to the 7.3. Can someone > help me. Which Displaymanager is running? If you have kdm running, please check the FAQ for a query with KDM and Mandrake. I think this applies to you too. In short: edit /opt/kde2/share/config/kdmrc and modify the following lines: : [Xdmcp] : Enable=false to : [Xdmcp] : Enable=true HTH ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From rasjidw@bigpond.com Fri Jan 4 06:25:00 2002 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 06:25:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:12, Schulz Georges wrote: > I have installed cygwin-xfree on SuSE 7.0 and it works fine. > But I can not get it to work with SuSE 7.3. I compared all > the adjustments that I made on 7.0 and I keep getting time > out errors. Also I can telnet and ftp to the 7.3. Can someone > help me. > > Roger Gardner > r.gardner@midata.de > Telefon:06145-506 590 $ netstat -u -a | grep xdm udp 0 0 *:xdmcp *:* OR $ netstat -u -a -n | grep 177 udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:177 0.0.0.0:* If you don't get these, then you don't have xdmcp listening, no matter what adjustments you have made. I'm guessing here, but if you are using KDE's kdm, then you will probably find a kdmrc file somewhere (/etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc on RedHat) which says... ... [Xdmcp] # Whether KDM should listen to XDMCP requests. Default is true. Enable=false ... Either comment out the enable line, or make it say 'true'. This kdmrc file is a new feature in KDE 2.2 - previously KDE just used xdm's configuration. A similar edit in gdm.conf needs to be made if you are using GNOME's gdm. Cheers, Rasjid. From RGuier@universalballast.com Fri Jan 4 07:51:00 2002 From: RGuier@universalballast.com (Guier, Russ) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 07:51:00 -0000 Subject: FW: File manager help Message-ID: <49DE422E3AAAD211A11000104BD2449A06BEDA78@NATNMAIL02> > Would you recommend a file manager which will load with the least amount > of configuring. I have had a difficult time trying to load several > different file managers. > > Thank You > > Russ Guier From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Jan 4 14:24:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: getting xfree86 to work without the whole cygwin package Message-ID: Hi, I've been asked to create an xfree86 package at work which can be installed without having to install cygwin as well. I realise I will need the cygwin.dll to even have a chance of getting this to work, but wondered if anyone could tell me which other components I would need to build this? JS. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jan 4 14:33:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:33:00 -0000 Subject: getting xfree86 to work without the whole cygwin package Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831FD@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Officially we do not encourage users to do it because it is tricky. However, some users have done it. You need to search mail archive. You will find the answers. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: J S [mailto:vervoom@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:25 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: getting xfree86 to work without the whole cygwin package > > Hi, > > I've been asked to create an xfree86 package at work which can be > installed > without having to install cygwin as well. I realise I will need the > cygwin.dll to even have a chance of getting this to work, but wondered > if > anyone could tell me which other components I would need to build > this? > > JS. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com From fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn Fri Jan 4 18:20:00 2002 From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?=C0=C9=CF=CC=B5=C0?=) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:20:00 -0000 Subject: question about XWin.exe Message-ID: <20020105022034.64703.qmail@web15004.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> when i runing : XWin.exe -screen 0 800 600 -fullscreen -depth 32 -refresh 85 -emulate3buttons 100 -nowinkill -unixkill a gray window appeared and cygwin stop at WinCreateDefColormap()-Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap() who can give me some advise,thank you! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? ????????????????????????????????! http://mail.yahoo.com.cn ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????! http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/c/roomlist.html From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jan 4 18:25:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:25:00 -0000 Subject: question about XWin.exe Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831FE@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Open a Cygwin bash shell Cd to /usr/X11R6/bin Type ./startxwin.sh And post the out of error messages from bash shell to the list. You must install the startup-script to use startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat files. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn [mailto:fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:21 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: question about XWin.exe > > when i runing : > XWin.exe -screen 0 800 600 -fullscreen -depth 32 > -refresh 85 -emulate3buttons 100 -nowinkill -unixkill > > a gray window appeared > and cygwin stop at > WinCreateDefColormap()-Deferring to > fbCreateDefColormap() > > who can give me some advise,thank you! > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? ????????! http://mail.yahoo.com.cn > > ????????????????????? > ???????! http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/c/roomlist.html From fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn Fri Jan 4 18:55:00 2002 From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?=C0=C9=20=CF=CC=B5=C0?=) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:55:00 -0000 Subject: to subaib siddiqi Message-ID: <20020105025525.77836.qmail@web15003.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> the output message ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pix el winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 708 r 1018 l 0 b 708 t 0 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () and it told me that: xterm.exe ????twm.exe????xsetrot.exe can not find libx11.dll _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? ????????????????????????????????! http://mail.yahoo.com.cn ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????! http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/c/roomlist.html From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jan 4 19:18:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:18:00 -0000 Subject: to subaib siddiqi Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831FF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You do not have /usr/X11R6/bin directory in your path. Fix your PATH, please. The clients are unable to find the dlls. Did you install everything? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn [mailto:fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:55 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: to subaib siddiqi > > the output message > ddxProcessArgument () > ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported > engines 0000001f > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows > display depth of 32 bits per pix > el > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w > 1018 h 708 r 1018 l 0 b 708 > t 0 > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 > 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to > fbCreateDefColormap () > and it told me that: > xterm.exe ?twm.exe?xsetrot.exe can not find > libx11.dll > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? 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????????????????????????????????! http://mail.yahoo.com.cn ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????! http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/c/roomlist.html From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jan 4 21:57:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:57:00 -0000 Subject: question about develop X Server Message-ID: <200201050557.g055v2r27534@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> Liu, The Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide will be helpful: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ Also, I have compiled links to other documentation on the Contributing page of the Cygwin/XFree86 web site: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/contributing/ There is a list of things that need work: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html That should be enough to get you started, if you are serious about helping. Harold liu said: > hello! Harold Hunt. > I'm a chinese university student. From you web page I know that you are the developer of > X Window System Server for Cygwin. Now I am very interest in X Server, I want to know > that how can I develop a X Server. Can you tell how you do that? > ( If you find there are some error on my sentence please don't surprise, because my english > is not good. ) > Waiting for your letter ; ) > From fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn Fri Jan 4 23:23:00 2002 From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Jerry=20uu?=) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:23:00 -0000 Subject: how to remove xfree Message-ID: <20020105072353.50977.qmail@web15005.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? ????????????????????????????????! http://mail.yahoo.com.cn ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????! http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/c/roomlist.html From jethro@freakzilla.com Sat Jan 5 11:39:00 2002 From: jethro@freakzilla.com (Yaron) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 11:39:00 -0000 Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree Message-ID: Hey all, I've been using Cygwin for ages, and had installed the xfree package around a year ago. I wasn't actually running the xserver under Cygwin because a year ago it wasn't all that usable yet. I was using Exceed, which is a commercial X server, and was using the cygwin/xfree X applications. I had also compiled aterm under cygwin and was using that. Lately I installed a new machine, and decided to try cygwin/xfree on it. I was delighted to see that the X server is now perfectly usable! However, aterm no longer worked correctly. The aterm seems to be waiting for some sort of buffer to fill before it refreshes it's display. Either that or there's some sort of timing issue. Either way, it makes aterm almost unusable. The thing is, I thought this was a cygwin/xfree problem, since my old machine had not had cygwin updated on it in a while, and still had X 3.3.6 on it. But about a week ago I upgraded cygwin (and NOT xfree) on my old machine, and aterm started exhibiting the same problem. I don't know if this is the right mailing list for this since it doesn't seem to be an xfree problem, but I figure people on this list might have encountered this sort of problem. I saw a similar question in the archive, but with no solution. TIA, -Yaron -- From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jan 5 12:29:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:29:00 -0000 Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683203@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> X 3.3.6 had X11R6.3 libraries, the latest cygwin-xfree is X11R6.4 based. Try recompiling aterm and linking to newer version of X libraries. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Yaron [mailto:jethro@freakzilla.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:39 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree > > Hey all, > > I've been using Cygwin for ages, and had installed the xfree package > around a year ago. I wasn't actually running the xserver under Cygwin > because a year ago it wasn't all that usable yet. I was using Exceed, > which is a commercial X server, and was using the cygwin/xfree X > applications. > > I had also compiled aterm under cygwin and was using that. > > Lately I installed a new machine, and decided to try cygwin/xfree on > it. I > was delighted to see that the X server is now perfectly usable! > However, > aterm no longer worked correctly. The aterm seems to be waiting for > some > sort of buffer to fill before it refreshes it's display. Either that > or > there's some sort of timing issue. Either way, it makes aterm almost > unusable. > > The thing is, I thought this was a cygwin/xfree problem, since my old > machine had not had cygwin updated on it in a while, and still had X > 3.3.6 > on it. But about a week ago I upgraded cygwin (and NOT xfree) on my > old > machine, and aterm started exhibiting the same problem. > > I don't know if this is the right mailing list for this since it > doesn't > seem to be an xfree problem, but I figure people on this list might > have > encountered this sort of problem. I saw a similar question in the > archive, > but with no solution. > > > TIA, > > > -Yaron > > -- From cgf@redhat.com Sat Jan 5 16:32:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 16:32:00 -0000 Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page Message-ID: <20020106003218.GA16828@redhat.com> I'd like to request that the 'sourcemaster@cygnus.com" address be removed from the cygwin-xfree web pages. In 99.99% of the cases, I've found that people send inappropriate mail there -- mail that should really go to the project mailing list. My theory is that "sourcemaster" sounds like an individual while a "mailing list" is a potentially frightening place filled with hostile users. Regardless, I've removed it from the cygwin mailing list. I was surprised to get some email today at sourcemaster@cygnus.com regarding cygwin. A grep revealed this address on the cygwin-xfree web pages. Even if you disagree with the need to advertise this link, the address is wrong. It should be sourcemaster@sources.redhat.com. I would still rather not advertise it however. cgf From cgf@redhat.com Sat Jan 5 16:58:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 16:58:00 -0000 Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page In-Reply-To: <20020106003218.GA16828@redhat.com> References: <20020106003218.GA16828@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020106005823.GA17177@redhat.com> On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 07:32:18PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >I'd like to request that the 'sourcemaster@cygnus.com" address be >removed from the cygwin-xfree web pages. In 99.99% of the cases, I've >found that people send inappropriate mail there -- mail that should >really go to the project mailing list. > >My theory is that "sourcemaster" sounds like an individual while a >"mailing list" is a potentially frightening place filled with hostile >users. > >Regardless, I've removed it from the cygwin mailing list. I was web page. cgf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jan 5 17:16:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 17:16:00 -0000 Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683204@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Removed. We will have some users who like to e-mail at every possible address they find on URL. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:32 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page > > I'd like to request that the 'sourcemaster@cygnus.com" address be > removed from the cygwin-xfree web pages. In 99.99% of the cases, I've > found that people send inappropriate mail there -- mail that should > really go to the project mailing list. > > My theory is that "sourcemaster" sounds like an individual while a > "mailing list" is a potentially frightening place filled with hostile > users. > > Regardless, I've removed it from the cygwin mailing list. I was > surprised to get some email today at sourcemaster@cygnus.com regarding > cygwin. A grep revealed this address on the cygwin-xfree web pages. > > Even if you disagree with the need to advertise this link, the address > is wrong. It should be sourcemaster@sources.redhat.com. I would > still > rather not advertise it however. > > cgf From cgf@redhat.com Sat Jan 5 17:24:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683204@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683204@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20020106012417.GB17572@redhat.com> On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 08:16:03PM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: >Removed. Thank you! cgf From orlolro@telocity.com Sun Jan 6 11:49:00 2002 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Fernain Betancourt) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:49:00 -0000 Subject: Double (2) Questions Message-ID: <20020106194933.29771.cpmta@c003.snv.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Name: pommiera.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 153 bytes Desc: Carte pour pommier URL: From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jan 6 13:52:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:52:00 -0000 Subject: Problems with BUNZIP2 and CYGWIN for install XFREE86 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268320E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: pommier [mailto:pommiera@club-internet.fr] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:30 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Problems with BUNZIP2 and CYGWIN for install XFREE86 > > I downloaded CYGWIN and XFREE86 but I had some problems when I want to > launch the instruction BUNZIP2 extract for the XFREE86 archive (E.G > bunzip2 extract.exe.bz2) . This instruction does'nt work (command not > found) > > I thing that instruction does'nt exist into the basic distrib CYGWIN. > Also, I dont have this software. > > Cant you help me to find BUNZIP2 for CYGWIN into the net for > downloading > ? > > What is the download site for BUNZIP2 ? > > Thank use cygwin setup.exe and make sure you have bzip2 checked when you install cygwin. It installs it by default. Same download site from where you downloaded Cywin Suhaib From machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com Sun Jan 6 16:40:00 2002 From: machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com (Eduardo Machicao) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:40:00 -0000 Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86 Message-ID: <20020107004031.5040.qmail@web20408.mail.yahoo.com> Dear list, I have followed the next steps to complete my Cygwin-XFree86-OpenDx installation: 1. I downloaded and installed tsch 6.11.00-3 and renamed tsch.exe to sch.exe. 2. Then I installed xpm-nox 4.1.0-1 (initially the file CYGXPM-X4.DLL was not found). Now, when I type dx at the $ prompt, I can see the main menu of OpenDx. But when I try to open any example file, the next message appears at the $ prompt: --------------------------------------------------- $ dx _dxl_ReadPortNumber: Bad file number timeout waiting for response from DX Internal error detected at "MacroDefinition.C":631. No files needed to be saved. --------------------------------------------------- And a window message: --------------------------------------------------- "Unable to connect to dxexec" --------------------------------------------------- Any suggestion would be appreciated, Eduardo Machicao --- Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > If I remember correctly, "not found" can be for two > reasons: > > 1) you may have a text mounted cygwin disk or your > dxworker script may be in > DOS format. > > 2) you also need to install tcsh for cygwin else > edit dxworker script > > Suhaib > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eduardo Machicao > [mailto:machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:53 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86 > > > > I am trying to install OpenDx for Cygwin-Xfree86 > under > > Windows 98. All was according to the instructions > > given in http://cygwin.com. I used the file called > > "setup.exe" for Cygwin. For OpenDx, I used > > "opendx-4.1.3-2-WIN32-setup.zip". > > I start the X server using "sh > > /usr/X11r6/bin/startxwin.sh". > > Typing "dx" at the $ prompt the next message > appears: > > > > "exec: /usr/local/dx/bin/dxworker: not found" > > > > And calling the *.bat files Buider, Editor, Menu, > > Prompter, Tutor appears: > > > > "CYGWIN1.DLL: Not Found" > > > > (But I can see "dxworker" and "cygwin.dll" in > > "c:\cygwin\usr\local\dx\bin\" and "c:\cygwin\bin\" > > respectively). > > > > The output for the "mount" command at the $ prompt > is: > > > > $ mount > > C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type user (binmode) > > C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type user (binmode) > > C:\cygwin on / type user (binmode) > > c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount) > > d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount) > > > > And my "cygwin.bat" file is: > > > > @echo on > > C: > > chdir \cygwin\bin > > SET oldpath=%path% > > SET > > > PATH=C:\cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\X11r6\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin;%ol > > dpath%PATH > > bash --login -i > > > > I know similar questions were posted here before. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > > Eduardo Machicao Valencia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sun Jan 6 19:51:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:51:00 -0000 Subject: help notes for downloading cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020107035150.GA32055@redhat.com> On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:38:51PM +1000, Williams, Allyson wrote: > > >In the help notes there is an error on the following page re downloading >cygwin: > >http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/docs/ug/cygwin-downloading.html > >The window used as an example of which pakages to download is actually taken >from the "install" process rather than the "download" process. This may seem >trivial but for someone new to the system it's not completely obvious (a) >how to select packages (b) which ones to select. You found the cygwin-xfree web site. The next step is to find the cygwin-xfree web site where this type of report should go. cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cgf From erotariu@integrasoft.ro Mon Jan 7 00:14:00 2002 From: erotariu@integrasoft.ro (Eugen Rotariu) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:14:00 -0000 Subject: fixed font Message-ID: Hi, I've installed Cygwin 1.3.6 and xfree 4.1.0 on an XP machine, but X fails to start saying that the fixed font is missing. What does that mean? What can I do? Thank you, Eugen Rotariu From tvoverbe@cistron.nl Mon Jan 7 01:29:00 2002 From: tvoverbe@cistron.nl (Ton van Overbeek) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:29:00 -0000 Subject: Problems with xterm as distributed (Error 14, errno 2: No such file or directory) and solution Message-ID: <3C396A6E.649FD452@cistron.nl> Hello, I've been using the Cygwin Xfree86 release to port a large Unix based application to the Cygwin/Xfree environment. The application uses a Tcl/Tk based front-end which starts up an xterm to do the actual work. The startup of the xterm fails with 'xterm: Error 14, errno 2: No such file or directory'. This issue came up also early last year on the mailing list: see the thread starting with http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q1/msg00-275.html. This thread did not give the cause of the problem. Some more looking around on the net showed that the problem is caused when xterm is started without a controlling terminal. This is exactly what happens in my case when started from a Tcl/Tk procedure. Looking at the xterm XFree86 sourcecode in the CVS at www.xfree86.org it turns out the problem has already been solved with CYGWIN specific code in main.c (accepts ENOENT as a return code when trying to open /dev/tty in function spawn()). So I grabbed a copy of the xterm sources (xc/programs/xterm), recompiled and it is working now. An other issue is that the xterm application defaults are not installed. They are not in the cygwin/xfree86 distribution and also did not get installed by 'make install' after my recompilation. After doing a 'touch' on XTerm.ad and XTerm-col.ad they got installed. Some date/time confusion between Windows & Cygwin ?? I would suggest to replace the xterm in the distribution by the one from the current xf_4_1 branch and also to include the app default files. Regards, Ton van Overbeek From ross_s@excel.net Mon Jan 7 01:44:00 2002 From: ross_s@excel.net (Ross Snoeyenbos) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:44:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Program shuts down after trying to start Message-ID: <001201c1975f$e827e320$4938fea9@Prsnoeye> -----Original Message----- From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:34 AM To: Ross Snoeyenbos Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Program shuts down after trying to start On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:21:25AM -0600, Ross Snoeyenbos wrote: > I just installed Xfree on Cygwin following the instructions in the > Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide exactly, and I get a message that scrolls off > the screen about /tmp/.X11~unix should be set to root when I run "startx". > Also there are messages about /home/username/.Xauthority: No such file or > directory, and a message that says xterm Xt error: Can't open display: > :0xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0, the rest goes off the right side > of the box. > > I am running Windows 98 Second Edition with all the latest updates and > patches as of today. > Please help!! Send reply to ross_s@excel.net as I don't have time to check > the archives every day, and I want to install XEmacs once the X11R6 install > is working. Wrong mailing list. Go to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jan 7 04:16:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 04:16:00 -0000 Subject: fixed font Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683210@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Eugen Rotariu [mailto:erotariu@integrasoft.ro] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:12 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: fixed font > > > Hi, > > I've installed Cygwin 1.3.6 and xfree 4.1.0 on an XP > machine, but X fails to start saying that the fixed font > is missing. What does that mean? What can I do? > It means you probably did not install fonts. Did you follow exact instructions in the User's Guide? Suhaib > Thank you, > Eugen Rotariu > From moser@decodon.com Mon Jan 7 05:25:00 2002 From: moser@decodon.com (Frank-Michael Moser) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 05:25:00 -0000 Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683203@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <3C39A1B5.9070200@decodon.com> I encountered exactly the same problem. So I downloaded the most recent aterm sources and compiled it without problems against the latest cygwin and cygwin-xfree but the problem resists. Frank-Michael. Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > X 3.3.6 had X11R6.3 libraries, the latest cygwin-xfree is X11R6.4 based. > Try recompiling aterm and linking to newer version of X libraries. > > Suhaib > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Yaron [mailto:jethro@freakzilla.com] >>Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:39 PM >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree >> >> Hey all, >> >>I've been using Cygwin for ages, and had installed the xfree package >>around a year ago. I wasn't actually running the xserver under Cygwin >>because a year ago it wasn't all that usable yet. I was using Exceed, >>which is a commercial X server, and was using the cygwin/xfree X >>applications. >> >>I had also compiled aterm under cygwin and was using that. >> >>Lately I installed a new machine, and decided to try cygwin/xfree on >>it. I >>was delighted to see that the X server is now perfectly usable! >>However, >>aterm no longer worked correctly. The aterm seems to be waiting for >>some >>sort of buffer to fill before it refreshes it's display. Either that >>or >>there's some sort of timing issue. Either way, it makes aterm almost >>unusable. >> >>The thing is, I thought this was a cygwin/xfree problem, since my old >>machine had not had cygwin updated on it in a while, and still had X >>3.3.6 >>on it. But about a week ago I upgraded cygwin (and NOT xfree) on my >>old >>machine, and aterm started exhibiting the same problem. >> >>I don't know if this is the right mailing list for this since it >>doesn't >>seem to be an xfree problem, but I figure people on this list might >>have >>encountered this sort of problem. I saw a similar question in the >>archive, >>but with no solution. >> >> >>TIA, >> >> >>-Yaron >> >>-- >> -- ------------------------------------------------------------ DECODON GmbH phone: +49(0)3834 515231 W.-Rathenau-Str. 49a fax: +49(0)3834 515239 17489 Greifswald email: moser@decodon.com Germany web: www.decodon.com ------------------------------------------------------------ From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Mon Jan 7 07:07:00 2002 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 07:07:00 -0000 Subject: dillo-0.6.3 Message-ID: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de> Hallo, I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/ to my website. Fetch your copy now: http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/ This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the following Cygwin packages to be installed: - jpeg - png - zlib - libintl1 Also required (with shared libs): - glib - gtk+ Please see the xfree-cygwin archives for the patches of Steve I used and the updated patch I made some weeks ago if you want to build them yourself. I use selfbuilt binaries, but there are some builds around in the web which should work too. Please report back to me if not. After unpacking from the Cygwin root dir `/' the binary dillo.exe lives in /usr/local/bin. Then fire up X and type: $ dillo & at some prompt. >From the README: Here's a list of some well known problems: * no FRAMES rendering * no cookies * no FTP * no https Have fun! Gerrit -- =^..^= From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jan 7 09:18:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683219@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Yaron [mailto:jethro@freakzilla.com] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:15 PM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree > > > Hey, > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > X 3.3.6 had X11R6.3 libraries, the latest cygwin-xfree is X11R6.4 > > based. Try recompiling aterm and linking to newer version of X > > libraries. > > Should've mentioned, I did try that before posting to the > list. I wouldn't waste peoples' time if I didn't try recompiling (: > > -Yaron > > -- > Ok, but how about building a debug version of aterm and debuging it using GDB? Many times when porting a code from one platform to another, you need to fix it for that particular OS. 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Davida) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:48:00 -0000 Subject: Scrolling error message from XWin server Message-ID: <3C3A17C5.A81B0BA4@iqstor.com> After starting the XWin server, from the cygwin dos window, by running xinit, XWin emits the following messages: winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pix el winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1272 h 993 r 1272 l 0 b 993 t 0 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5088 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > Error: Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include > Exiting > Abandoning geometry file "(null)" Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server After a while (about 10 - 20 minutes), XWin starts to continuously and rapidly emit this error message out on the dos cygwin window where xinit was invoked: winShadowUpdateDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2 Cheers, Joe From jethro@freakzilla.com Mon Jan 7 17:25:00 2002 From: jethro@freakzilla.com (Yaron) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 17:25:00 -0000 Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683219@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Hello, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > Ok, but how about building a debug version of aterm and debuging it using > GDB? Many times when porting a code from one platform to another, you need > to fix it for that particular OS. I got a few suggestions to try that, so I did (; Unfortunately, I'm either not very good with gdb or something weird is happening... I built with -ggdb in CFLAGS to get native gdb info. What happens is, it does a lot of initializing stuff and then enters the main_loop function. Then gdb pauses itself in a constant hourglass thing. It doesn't move into the file main_loop is in (command.c) and thus becomes useless ): I got it to set a breakpoint inside main_loop (way to be intuitive, gdb! (: ), and discovered it sits around in a loop looking to "ch = *cmdbuf_ptr++;", which I guess is where it waits for me to type stuff... which seems like a good idea. My C/C++ is not too strong, and isn't good enough for me to know what the heck the problem is here. I see it is waiting for a buffer to fill, then going through it... I guess I'll try and figure out what the buffer is and why it needs to fill up! Any help from someone who KNOWS C would be appreciated (; -Yaron -- From lee.1801@osu.edu Mon Jan 7 18:12:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: xfree doesn't work Message-ID: <002501c197e9$c77cbee0$928e1941@alleluja> Hi all My script works well on the PCs in our Lab on campus but doesn't at home (Roadrunner). Here is the script, named xg ~~~~~~~~~~ #!/bin/bash TERM=vt100 export TERM XWin.exe -query unix_sys_IP -from IP_working_on ~~~~~~~~~~~~ When i run this script, i only changed 'IP_working_on', nothing else. Below is the response when it is run at home (it took long time to finish): $ . xg ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pix el winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 546 r 794 l 0 b 546 t 0 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 1588 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 546 r 794 l 0 b 546 t 0 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 1588 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () XDM: too many retransmissions XDM: too many retransmissions XDM: too many retransmissions XDM: too many retransmissions Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 430752026 failed for display dhcp065-0 25-142-146.columbus.rr.com:0: Cannot open display Administrator@ALLELUJA /cygdrive/d $ From harvey.richard@videotron.ca Mon Jan 7 20:13:00 2002 From: harvey.richard@videotron.ca (richard harvey) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP : Cannot open display - fatal error problem Message-ID: <000901c197fa$ed324f40$36e1c818@videotron.ca> Hello all, I have been running Cygwin with Xfree for a while now, querying the XDMCP server at my work's machine without a hitch - eveything worked just fine. I recently installed a second network adapter to share my Internet connection with my wife's computer and things still worked fine with Cygwin for a while, but I *now* get this message: "XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 13 failed for display myhostname.ca:0: Cannot open display." I'm almost sure it worked OK for a while after I installed the 2nd NIC, but now I get the X gray stippled background and nothing else! I'm baffled now as to what happened. I searched the mailing archives to no avail. Has someone out there found and possibly resolved this type of problem? 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Haase) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 02:01:00 -0000 Subject: dillo-0.6.3 In-Reply-To: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de> References: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de> Message-ID: <113744510.20020108105217@familiehaase.de> > I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/ > to my website. BTW, `dillo' is a web browser: The web browser;) > Fetch your copy now: > http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/ > This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the > following Cygwin packages to be installed: > - jpeg > - png > - zlib > - libintl1 > Also required (with shared libs): > - glib > - gtk+ > Please see the xfree-cygwin archives for the patches of Steve > I used and the updated patch I made some weeks ago if you want > to build them yourself. > I use selfbuilt binaries, but there are some builds around > in the web which should work too. Please report back to me if not. > After unpacking from the Cygwin root dir `/' the binary dillo.exe > lives in /usr/local/bin. > Then fire up X and type: > $ dillo & > at some prompt. > From the README: > Here's a list of some well known problems: > * no FRAMES rendering > * no cookies > * no FTP > * no https > Have fun! > Gerrit -- begin signature: =^..^= end From muller@cerbere.u-strasbg.fr Tue Jan 8 02:05:00 2002 From: muller@cerbere.u-strasbg.fr (Pierre Muller) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 02:05:00 -0000 Subject: dillo-0.6.3 In-Reply-To: <113744510.20020108105217@familiehaase.de> References: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de> <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020108110346.020b9008@ics.u-strasbg.fr> At 10:52 08/01/2002 , Gerrit P. Haase a ??crit: > > I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/ > > to my website. > >BTW, `dillo' is a web browser: The web browser;) > > > Fetch your copy now: > > http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/ > > > This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the > > following Cygwin packages to be installed: > > - jpeg > > - png > > - zlib > > - libintl1 > > > Also required (with shared libs): > > - glib > > - gtk+ Where do I find those libs, they don't seem to be loadable using Cygwin Setup utility, nor are they part of the Cygwin XFree suite. Pierre Muller Institut Charles Sadron 6,rue Boussingault F 67083 STRASBOURG CEDEX (France) mailto:muller@ics.u-strasbg.fr Phone : (33)-3-88-41-40-07 Fax : (33)-3-88-41-40-99 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 8 03:09:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 03:09:00 -0000 Subject: Scrolling error message from XWin server In-Reply-To: <3C3A17C5.A81B0BA4@iqstor.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Joseph I. Davida wrote: > After starting the XWin server, from the cygwin dos window, > by running xinit, XWin emits the following messages: [...] > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > > Error: Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include > > Exiting > > Abandoning geometry file "(null)" > Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server Where does the xkb message result from. Were there some changes to the init scripts or is the server my configuration-test release? If it's the configuration-test, please make sure you have the xkb files installed. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Jan 8 03:29:00 2002 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 03:29:00 -0000 Subject: dillo-0.6.3 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020108110346.020b9008@ics.u-strasbg.fr> References: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de> <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de> <4.2.0.58.20020108110346.020b9008@ics.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: <1975988010.20020108122135@familiehaase.de> Pierre, 2002-01-08 12:11:34, du schriebst: > At 10:52 08/01/2002 , Gerrit P. Haase a ??crit: >> > I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/ >> > to my website. >> >>BTW, `dillo' is a web browser: The web browser;) >> >> > Fetch your copy now: >> > http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/ >> >> > This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the >> > following Cygwin packages to be installed: >> > - jpeg >> > - png >> > - zlib >> > - libintl1 >> >> > Also required (with shared libs): >> > - glib >> > - gtk+ > Where do I find those libs, they don't seem to be > loadable using Cygwin Setup utility, > nor are they part of the Cygwin XFree suite. Yes, they are not part of the net release. Unfortunately the site where prebuilt binaries were available is down. But I found some patches in the list archives which I used too, some of them are enhanced or updated to later versions. To use dillo are only `glib-1.2.10' and `gtk-1.2.10' needed. Here are all the patches: http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/gtk/ Unfortunately I have not enough space at this site to load up binaries, I will be able to do so probably in about four weeks. Gerrit -- begin signature: =^..^= end From rasjidw@bigpond.com Tue Jan 8 04:44:00 2002 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 04:44:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP : Cannot open display - fatal error problem In-Reply-To: <000901c197fa$ed324f40$36e1c818@videotron.ca> References: <000901c197fa$ed324f40$36e1c818@videotron.ca> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:14, richard harvey wrote: > Hello all, > > I have been running Cygwin with Xfree for a while now, querying the XDMCP > server at my work's machine without a hitch - eveything worked just fine. I > recently installed a second network adapter to share my Internet connection > with my wife's computer and things still worked fine with Cygwin for a > while, but I *now* get this message: > > "XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 13 failed for display > myhostname.ca:0: Cannot open display." > > I'm almost sure it worked OK for a while after I installed the 2nd NIC, but > now I get the X gray stippled background and nothing else! Are you sure it worked once the second network card was configured? Are you using the --from IP.Address.Of.Nic.You.Want.To.Use flag when starting XWin.exe? Failing that, have a look at Alexander Gottwald's ls_netdev at http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ at it may help diagnose the problem (assuming that it is something to do with the network card and not something else). > I'm baffled now as to what happened. I searched the mailing archives to no > avail. Has someone out there found and possibly resolved this type of > problem? > > Thanks, > > Richard Harvey > > Montreal, Qu??bec From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Tue Jan 8 08:50:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: Which XWin engine is "best"? Message-ID: There seems to be precious little documentation on exactly what differentiates one XWin engine from the other (ie. GDI, DirectDraw, DirectDraw4, NativeGDI). This makes it impossible to determine which engine it the "best" one to use under which circumstances. I'd appreciate it if someone could shed a little light on this subject. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Jan 8 09:09:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 09:09:00 -0000 Subject: Which XWin engine is "best"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020108170921.2696.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com> Dont use NativeGDI, because it is a development engine... If you have DirectX 4 or greater, use DirectDraw4... most people do, and it is faster than the old standby of DirectDraw. Either DirectDraw engine will work, but if you can use DirectDraw4, then do it. PS (to the rest of the group). If I got anything wrong, please correct me. Brian --- James Tetazoo wrote: > There seems to be precious little documentation on exactly what > differentiates one XWin engine from the other (ie. GDI, DirectDraw, > DirectDraw4, NativeGDI). This makes it impossible to determine which engine > it the "best" one to use under which circumstances. > > I'd appreciate it if someone could shed a little light on this subject. > > Thanks. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jan 8 09:11:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 09:11:00 -0000 Subject: Which XWin engine is "best"? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268322B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:09 PM > To: James Tetazoo; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Which XWin engine is "best"? > > > Dont use NativeGDI, because it is a development engine... > If you have DirectX 4 or greater, use DirectDraw4... most > people do, and it is faster than the old standby of DirectDraw. > > Either DirectDraw engine will work, but if you can use > DirectDraw4, then do it. > > PS (to the rest of the group). If I got anything wrong, > please correct me. > Thanks. That is what I was going to write, Suhaib > Brian > > > --- James Tetazoo wrote: > > There seems to be precious little documentation on exactly what > > differentiates one XWin engine from the other (ie. GDI, DirectDraw, > > DirectDraw4, NativeGDI). This makes it impossible to > determine which engine > > it the "best" one to use under which circumstances. > > > > I'd appreciate it if someone could shed a little light on this > > subject. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 8 09:22:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 09:22:00 -0000 Subject: Scrolling error message from XWin server In-Reply-To: <200201081702.g08H2Iq04376@davida.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Joseph Davida wrote: > The XKB is a one shot error message, and it always appears. > I have commented out all xkb... settings from /etc/X11/XF86Config, > so I dont know where they are comming from. > Also, should not the xkb files be part of the Win32 XFree86 > distribution? I installed all of the stuff in the distribution > using the Xinstall.sh script. If the dist does not have these > xkb files, where can I obtain them from? I don't know if they are, but for some development releases they are needed. I guess you still have the original XWin.exe installed by Xinstall.sh. So XF86Config is not used. If you're using a test release, then use the switch XkbDisable in XF86Config. But the Xkb problem should not cause the other error message. > winShadowUpdateDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2 Please try starting XWin with the config switch -engine 16 If it does not work, replace the 16 by 8, 4, 2 and 1 and see if anything changes. > I have tried to use xdm. The login banner comes up, but > it does not recognize the passwords. Using the passwd > command to set a particular password does not help. Xdm does not work properly on Windows. > xset q > /dev/null 2>&1 & What's this? you request status information and direct the output to /dev/null? That's strange. Please keep responses to the mailing list. It will help _you_ that more people can follow the troubleshooting and may give hints. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From kk@eq.ufrj.br Wed Jan 9 05:33:00 2002 From: kk@eq.ufrj.br (Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 05:33:00 -0000 Subject: How to compile WindowMaker? Message-ID: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br> Hi, folks! I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin. I have read the README and INSTALL files and did all the things they tell me to do (at least, I guess I did). However, after running the configure utility, I ran the make utility and, at the end of the compiling process I get an error and the program is not built. The lines that show the error are: " .... Making all in Examples make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples' /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function `WMInitializeApplication': /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 " I also figured that, even though the INSTALL file tells me to run a program called ldconfig after I run make, I do not have a ldconfig.exe in my Cygwin distribution. I am not a C programmer, nor I am a Linux experienced user. Can anybody a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile WindowMaker under Cygwin? b) tell what is the program ldconfig? I tried searching for these answers in the mailing lists archives, but (for some reason I don't know) the pages in the archive do not open in my computer (I always get a time-out after a minute or two). I am running Cygwin 1.3.6 under Windows 2000 SP2 (Brazilian Portuguese). I downloaded WindowMaker-0.80.0.tar.gz from windowmaker.org. Thanks in advence, Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte, M.Sc. Escola de Qu??mica/UFRJ Centro de Tecnologia, Bloco E, Lab. 113 Cidade Universit??ria, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 20949-900 Brasil Tel: +55 21 2562-7622 eiffleduarte@ufrj.br eiffleduarte@hotmail.com ICQ # 20259520 From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Wed Jan 9 06:02:00 2002 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 06:02:00 -0000 Subject: How to compile WindowMaker? In-Reply-To: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br> References: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br> Message-ID: <7113429480.20020109145451@familiehaase.de> Marcus, 2002-01-09 14:43:55, du schriebst: > I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin. [...] > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function > `WMInitializeApplication': > /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference > to `_Xsetlocale' > a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile WindowMaker under Cygwin? You probably want to add libX11.a (-lX11) to your link line? > b) tell what is the program ldconfig? You don't need that for Cygwin. The shared libraries are in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin and are looked up via PATH by the linker. Gerrit -- =^..^= From michael.anderson@centurytel.com Wed Jan 9 07:12:00 2002 From: michael.anderson@centurytel.com (Michael Anderson) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 07:12:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard problem Message-ID: <000001c19920$1cba0200$46e3000a@c0000fi59> I am having a problem with my text turning to uppercase, sometimes I can toggle it with CAPs-Lock, but there are other times that no matter what I attempt to press I can not get the text to return to lowercase. I have seen some issues that are similar on the archive but nothing exactly to this nature. Is there any workarounds? Any help would be appreciated. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jan 9 07:21:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 07:21:00 -0000 Subject: How to compile WindowMaker? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683233@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> you need to link to libX11, and other libs as needed. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte [mailto:kk@eq.ufrj.br] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:33 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: How to compile WindowMaker? > > > Hi, folks! > > I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin. > I have read the README and INSTALL files and did all the > things they tell me to do (at least, I guess I did). However, > after running the configure utility, I ran the make utility > and, at the end of the compiling process I get an error and > the program is not built. The lines that show the error are: " .... > Making all in Examples > make[2]: Entering directory > `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples' > /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o > connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a > -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl > gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function > `WMInitializeApplication': > /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: > undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > " > I also figured that, even though the INSTALL file tells me to > run a program called ldconfig after I run make, I do not have > a ldconfig.exe in my Cygwin distribution. I am not a C > programmer, nor I am a Linux experienced user. Can anybody > > a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile > WindowMaker under Cygwin? > b) tell what is the program ldconfig? > > I tried searching for these answers in the mailing lists > archives, but (for some reason I don't know) the pages in the > archive do not open in my computer (I always get a time-out > after a minute or two). I am running Cygwin 1.3.6 under > Windows 2000 SP2 (Brazilian Portuguese). I downloaded > WindowMaker-0.80.0.tar.gz from windowmaker.org. > > Thanks in advence, > > Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte, M.Sc. > > Escola de Qu?mica/UFRJ > Centro de Tecnologia, Bloco E, Lab. 113 > Cidade Universit?ria, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 20949-900 > Brasil > Tel: +55 21 2562-7622 > eiffleduarte@ufrj.br > eiffleduarte@hotmail.com > ICQ # 20259520 > > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jan 9 07:41:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 07:41:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: <000001c19920$1cba0200$46e3000a@c0000fi59> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Michael Anderson wrote: > > I am having a problem with my text turning to uppercase, sometimes I can > toggle it with CAPs-Lock, but there are other times that no matter what I > attempt to press I can not get the text to return to lowercase. I have seen > some issues that are similar on the archive but nothing exactly to this > nature. Is there any workarounds? Any help would be appreciated. Most times I can switch it off again by pressing the right shift key. But if this does not help, you have to restart XWin :-( bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From jaritifi@yahoo.com Wed Jan 9 07:58:00 2002 From: jaritifi@yahoo.com (jari timonen) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: can't start xterm Message-ID: <20020109155854.81859.qmail@web21210.mail.yahoo.com> My xterm (and some other applications) won't start. Windows just hang and i must end xterm task. Twm and Xclock seems working OK. I have Win98 with 1.1.8 cygwin and latest XFree86. --jari __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jan 9 08:06:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 08:06:00 -0000 Subject: can't start xterm Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683235@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> update you Cygwin, please. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: jari timonen [mailto:jaritifi@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:59 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: can't start xterm > > > My xterm (and some other applications) won't start. > Windows just hang and i must end xterm task. Twm and > Xclock seems working OK. I have Win98 with 1.1.8 > cygwin and latest XFree86. > > --jari > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Jan 9 09:40:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 09:40:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file Message-ID: <20020109174042.45366.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find the setup.ini file on http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin. Where could I download it ? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Courrier : http://courrier.yahoo.fr From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Wed Jan 9 11:21:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 11:21:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file In-Reply-To: <20020109174042.45366.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005501c19942$8463f880$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sylvain Petreolle > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:41 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file > > > Hi, > > I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find > the setup.ini file on > http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin. > > Where could I download it ? > The alpha release of kde 2.2.1 does not support downloading with setup.exe/setup.ini. You have to download each archive and the related updates/patches. Read the relating README's for more information about installing and so on. I think the beta release would support this. Perhaps if no reaons speek against, it will be released with the cygwin mirroring network. Regards Ralf From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Jan 9 18:19:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 18:19:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file In-Reply-To: <005501c19942$8463f880$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020110021942.25656.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Ralf, So ok, but... Could you tell me what packages put files in other places than /opt/kde ? I hate the idea of put files everywhere in my tree... --- Ralf Habacker a ??crit??: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of > Sylvain Petreolle > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:41 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find > > the setup.ini file on > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin. > > > > Where could I download it ? > > > The alpha release of kde 2.2.1 does not support > downloading with setup.exe/setup.ini. > > You have to download each archive and the related > updates/patches. Read the relating README's > for more information about installing and so on. > I think the beta release would support this. Perhaps > if no reaons speek against, it will be > released with the > cygwin mirroring network. > > Regards > > Ralf > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Courrier : http://courrier.yahoo.fr From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jan 10 01:27:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:27:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file In-Reply-To: <20020110021942.25656.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006201c199b8$a155c6f0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > > > Hi Ralf, > > So ok, but... > Could you tell me what packages put files in other > places > than /opt/kde ? > I hate the idea of put files everywhere in my tree... General KDE will be installed in /usr/local/kde1 (kde1) or (currently) /opt/kde2 (kde2). Especially the kde installation may be changed due to some requirements like cygwin style guide, but I think I will not be /usr/bin because of the number of dll's and exe (>200). Perhaps it will be /usr/local/kde2 or so. There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be some other, which are be installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the official cygwin release. If these package will be introduced in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr. For example I've seen that libxml is going to be a part of the cygwin release. This will propably be installed in /usr/bin and /usr/lib and /usr/include/libxml or so. Thats all. Ralf > > --- Ralf Habacker a > ??crit??: > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of > > Sylvain Petreolle > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:41 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find > > > the setup.ini file on > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin. > > > > > > Where could I download it ? > > > > > The alpha release of kde 2.2.1 does not support > > downloading with setup.exe/setup.ini. > > > > You have to download each archive and the related > > updates/patches. Read the relating README's > > for more information about installing and so on. > > I think the beta release would support this. Perhaps > > if no reaons speek against, it will be > > released with the > > cygwin mirroring network. > > > > Regards > > > > Ralf > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Courrier : http://courrier.yahoo.fr > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jan 10 01:42:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:42:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file References: <006201c199b8$a155c6f0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <015c01c199bb$25ea7120$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" > > There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be some other, which are be > installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the official cygwin release. If > these package will be introduced > in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr. libxml2 is already in the cygwin release. Rob From mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com Thu Jan 10 02:32:00 2002 From: mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com (Michael Tang) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 02:32:00 -0000 Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110113057.02484ef0@wgmail3.oslo.eur.slb.com> Hello Gurus, I have those X11/R6 binaries and am running them. Good stuff. Now, I am tempted to installed the KDE 2.2.1 on machine to have a try. Question: Do I still need X11/R6 X-stuff before I can use KDE? I would like to removed them if KDE runs without these X11/R6 binaries.... I am running short of disk space... Thanks and regards, Michael From kufcffo@yahoo.com Thu Jan 10 02:55:00 2002 From: kufcffo@yahoo.com (dave hmm) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 02:55:00 -0000 Subject: startx.bat missing Message-ID: <20020110105542.24017.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> I just installed xfree, and i'm missing startx.bat. I don't have startx.sh either. How do I make a startx.bat file? Thanks & regards __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Jan 10 03:52:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 03:52:00 -0000 Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110113057.02484ef0@wgmail3.oslo.eur.slb.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110113057.02484ef0@wgmail3.oslo.eur.slb.com> Message-ID: Yep KDE wants X11.. /Andy | Question: | Do I still need X11/R6 X-stuff before I can use KDE? I would like to | removed them if KDE runs without these X11/R6 binaries.... I am -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Jan 10 03:54:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 03:54:00 -0000 Subject: startx.bat missing In-Reply-To: <20020110105542.24017.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020110105542.24017.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The installation guide includes info where to get it from.. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-installing.html startup-scripts.. /Andy / dave hmm wrote: | I just installed xfree, and i'm missing startx.bat. I | don't have startx.sh either. How do I make a | startx.bat file? -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jan 10 04:03:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:03:00 -0000 Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Tang [mailto:mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:34 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? > > > Hello Gurus, > > I have those X11/R6 binaries and am running them. Good stuff. > Now, I am > tempted to installed the KDE 2.2.1 on machine to have a try. > > Question: > Do I still need X11/R6 X-stuff before I can use KDE? I would like to > removed them if KDE runs without these X11/R6 binaries.... I > am running > short of disk space... > You cannot run KDE with X11R6 on any Operating Systems. > Thanks and regards, > Michael > From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jan 10 04:35:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:00 -0000 Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Pls confirm Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> keep the mails to list only please! Yes, you cannot run KDE on any OPERATING SYSTEM with X11R6. KDE is a desktop environment, not a Windowing system itself. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Tang [mailto:mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:34 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: RE: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Pls confirm > > > You mean I CANNOT run KDE WITHOUT X11R6??? > > Can I confirm that ? Thanks... > > Michael > > > > > > >You cannot run KDE with X11R6 on any Operating Systems. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > Michael > > > > > From kk@eq.ufrj.br Thu Jan 10 05:31:00 2002 From: kk@eq.ufrj.br (Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:31:00 -0000 Subject: How to compile WindowMaker? References: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br> <7113429480.20020109145451@familiehaase.de> Message-ID: <008b01c199da$f38ed930$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br> Thanks, Gerrit. Yet, it seems I did not know where to append the -lX11 option. However, I solved the compilation problem disabling the locale setting, by running the configure utility with the --disable-locale option. Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte > Marcus, > > 2002-01-09 14:43:55, du schriebst: > > > I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin. > [...] > > > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl > > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function > > `WMInitializeApplication': > > /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference > > to `_Xsetlocale' > > > a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile WindowMaker under Cygwin? > > You probably want to add libX11.a (-lX11) to your link line? > > > b) tell what is the program ldconfig? > > You don't need that for Cygwin. The shared libraries are in /usr/bin or > /usr/local/bin and are looked up via PATH by the linker. > > > Gerrit > -- > =^..^= > From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jan 10 05:35:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:35:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file In-Reply-To: <015c01c199bb$25ea7120$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <007a01c199db$27109410$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralf Habacker" > > > > There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be some > other, which are be > > installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the official > cygwin release. If > > these package will be introduced > > in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr. > > libxml2 is already in the cygwin release. That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also released. What about xfree ? Are there any plans to add xfree to the distribution ? I'm asking because then it makes sense to add qt and so on. Ralf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jan 10 05:36:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file References: <007a01c199db$27109410$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <030901c199db$dbee2730$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" > That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also released. What about xfree ? Are there > any plans to add xfree to the distribution ? I hope so. The updated setup that lifted the package moratorium has been out for a couple of months now, so there is no reason not to add X as a package in the net distro. Suhaib? What do you think? Rob From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jan 10 05:37:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:37:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:32 AM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: RE: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ralf Habacker" > > > > > > There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be > > > some > > other, which are be > > > installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the > > > official > > cygwin release. If > > > these package will be introduced > > > in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr. > > > > libxml2 is already in the cygwin release. > > That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also > released. What about xfree ? Are there any plans to add xfree > to the distribution ? > > I'm asking because then it makes sense to add qt and so on. > > Ralf > I will look at setup.exe. In December Rob posted about changes to setup.exe code which could allow adding xfree to distribution. Due to tragidies in my family I was out of country. I will have a look at it within a few days. Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jan 10 05:44:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:44:00 -0000 Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Collins [mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:37 AM > To: Ralf Habacker; Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Re: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralf Habacker" > > That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also released. What > about xfree ? Are there > > any plans to add xfree to the distribution ? > > I hope so. The updated setup that lifted the package > moratorium has been out for a couple of months now, so there > is no reason not to add X as a package in the net distro. > > Suhaib? What do you think? > > Rob > I will start working on it, pershaps starting from this weekend. Suhaib From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jan 10 06:33:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 06:33:00 -0000 Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Pls confirm In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > You mean I CANNOT run KDE WITHOUT X11R6??? > > Yes, you cannot run KDE on any OPERATING SYSTEM with X11R6. KDE is a > desktop environment, not a Windowing system itself. > Let's say it this way: You need X11R6 to run KDE. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Jan 10 07:09:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:09:00 -0000 Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon... Message-ID: Anyone know where I can get an MS-Windows icon file with the "X" icon? I have a shortcut on my Win2k desktop that I use to launch XWin, and I want to set the icon to something appropriate. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jan 10 07:11:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:11:00 -0000 Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon... Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683240@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> make your own using any graphics software. Or search internet for an X icon. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: James Tetazoo [mailto:j_tetazoo@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:09 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon... > > > Anyone know where I can get an MS-Windows icon file with the > "X" icon? I > have a shortcut on my Win2k desktop that I use to launch > XWin, and I want to > set the icon to something appropriate. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > From hobroj@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com Thu Jan 10 09:55:00 2002 From: hobroj@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (James Hobro) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon... References: Message-ID: <3C3DD550.5@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> The binary distribution of xemacs-21.4.6 for Windows (Cygwin version) comes with a nice X-Windows style "X" icon. You can get the distribution from http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/ James. James Tetazoo wrote: > Anyone know where I can get an MS-Windows icon file with the "X" > icon? I have a shortcut on my Win2k desktop that I use to launch > XWin, and I want to set the icon to something appropriate. -- James Hobro Project Geophysicist, Earth Models Development WesternGeco, Schlumberger House, Gatwick Airport Tel: +44 (0)1293 556119, Fax: +44 (0)1293 556800 From ken.foskey@salmat.com.au Thu Jan 10 16:52:00 2002 From: ken.foskey@salmat.com.au (Ken Foskey) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:52:00 -0000 Subject: 6.1. A required DLL file: cygncurses5.dll cannot be found Message-ID: <3481378521@salmat.com.au> The FAQ present information on how to avoid this problem but not on how to correct the problem once you are there. To solve the problem (using the latest setup...) go into setup, once you are at the screen 'select packages to download', select base, find libnurses5, click in the new column, going through a cycle, it should show either retrieve or the version number 5.2.1. Clicking next will download the package and all will be well. Now if I can change my xterm background from white so that I can read the text I will be a happy man.... RTFM. copyright released, use as you will.... -- Thanks Ken Foskey Research & development ken.foskey@salmat.com.au - 0413 059 066 ************************************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential to Salmat Pty Ltd intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please return to the sender and delete from your systems. This e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses known to Salmat's virus patterns. Salmat Pty Ltd ACN 066 833 458 ************************************************************************************** From cpraber@yahoo.com Thu Jan 10 20:03:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:03:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie question: trying to get remote netscape window... Message-ID: <20020111040345.20901.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com> First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to do some remote Linux work from my PC... I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a netscape or other browser from my remote linux machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to work. I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to install another wm on my pc if I don't have to. Suggestions are much appreciated. TIA, -Chris. PS: Email me directly if you don't mind. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From rmedina@ivic.ve Thu Jan 10 20:11:00 2002 From: rmedina@ivic.ve (Rodrigo Medina) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:11:00 -0000 Subject: Child process assigned to wrong parent in xinit Message-ID: <200201110010.AAA04508@pion.ivic.ve> Hello, There is a bug in the control of processes of Cygwin. As I found it while installing XFree86 I am sending this report to both mail lists. My system is a Window 95-B with DirectX, CYGWIN_95-4.0, XFree86-4.1.0 I have put in ~/ a shell script .xinitrc for running xninit. The file is a modification of the one that is provided in /etc/X11/xinit/ in the XFree distribution. The end of the shell script is like this ... ... # start some nice programs xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & xterm -geometry 80x40+10+51 & xterm -geometry 80x20+250+100 & xman -geometry 100x76+1+1 -pagesize 600x400+1+1 & exec twm After running the xinit command, the resulting Xwindow desk is VARIABLE. Some times I get 2 xterm windows, some times 1 xterm window and in one case I even got none. When there are 2 xterm windows some times everything is OK, but some cases only one of the xterm windows has the bash shell. Some times the bash shell that apears is the one that corresponds to the other xterm! This can be deduced because it inherits the wrong number of lines, as it can be verified by running vi. When this happens if one runs exit the xterm window does not disappear,and if one exits from the twm menu, action that normally ends the Xwindow window, twm terminates but the Xwindow desk does not. After closing the Xwindow the hangging bash still appears in the ps command output with an S in front. It seems to me that there is a big problem with the control of processes of cygwin, including the assignment of a child process to the wrong parent. I hope that this paternity problem could be solved soon. Rodrigo Medina Centro de F??sica rmedina@ivic.ve From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jan 10 23:37:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:37:00 -0000 Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager Message-ID: <008e01c19a72$6537ceb0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi, I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem, when starting some apps without any window manager. For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at the start of the launching process, which needs some time. At this time no window manager is running. With this configuration the color isn't set, but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window seems to be closed for a little while and comes back) After startung twm, kwm or kwin color setting works. The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example xdpyinfo without any window manager. When the end of the listing is reached the server "restarts". Any ideas ? Regards Ralf From vincent.arnoux@asml.com Fri Jan 11 00:55:00 2002 From: vincent.arnoux@asml.com (Vincent Arnoux) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:55:00 -0000 Subject: Quick question on setup.exe Message-ID: <3C3EA864.98ACCE6D@rousset.france.asml.nl> Hello, Does this download application for cygwin takes in account the OS on which it is running (i.e. are there different packages to download whether you are running it on Windows 95 or Windows NT) ? Regards, Vincent Arnoux From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jan 11 01:18:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:18:00 -0000 Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager In-Reply-To: <008e01c19a72$6537ceb0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Ralf Habacker wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem, > when starting some apps without any window manager. > > For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at > the start of the launching process, which needs some time. At this time no > window manager is running. With this configuration the color isn't set, > but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window seems to be closed for > a little while and comes back) After startung twm, kwm or kwin color > setting works. The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example > xdpyinfo without any window manager. When the end of the listing is > reached the server "restarts". This is the normal behavior. After the last client disconnected, the Xserver resets. Normally xinit is the first process that connects to the Xserver, exec the .xinitrc scripts and exits after the last program from xinitrc (normally the windowmanger) has ended. You can switch the Xserver to not resetting by adding the switch -noreset to the XWin commandline. This is not recommend if you use the Xserver for terminals, since all settings that are made in a session are not reset until the next session starts. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 06:10:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:10:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. Message-ID: <20020111141018.64988.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com> Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I found the WEB UI to the list archive... First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to do some remote Linux work from my PC. I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a netscape or other browser from my remote linux machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to work. I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to install another wm on my pc if I don't have to. Suggestions are much appreciated. TIA, -Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Fri Jan 11 06:21:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:21:00 -0000 Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF608@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> As a matter of fact, that is how it works. It is a design feature of XFree86 (and most other X-Servers) to perform a reset when the number of client connections goes to zero. In your case (and as discussed before) the xsetroot program is the only client connected, so after it set's the root background, it disconnects and XWin resets. AFIK this behavior is not optional. You need to re-order the sequence of client starts, so that there is a "persistent" client (like an xterm or the window manager, or...) -D --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf Habacker [SMTP:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:34 AM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager > > Hi, > > I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem, > when starting some > apps without any window manager. > > For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at > the start of the > launching process, which needs some time. At this time no window manager > is running. With > this configuration the color isn't set, but the xserver seems to be > restarted. (The window > seems to be closed for a little while and comes back) > After startung twm, kwm or kwin color setting works. > The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example xdpyinfo without any > window manager. > When the end of the listing is reached the server "restarts". > > Any ideas ? > > Regards > Ralf From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Fri Jan 11 06:25:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:25:00 -0000 Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF609@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> Pardon my earlier mistake (re: ability to turn off XWin reset). The -noreset command line option appears to be undocumented(?) -D. --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Gottwald > [SMTP:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:19 AM > Cc: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Re: problem with using xsetroot without window manager > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Ralf Habacker wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem, > > > when starting some apps without any window manager. > > > > For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at > > > the start of the launching process, which needs some time. At this time > no > > window manager is running. With this configuration the color isn't set, > > but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window seems to be closed > for > > a little while and comes back) After startung twm, kwm or kwin color > > setting works. The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example > > xdpyinfo without any window manager. When the end of the listing is > > reached the server "restarts". > > This is the normal behavior. After the last client disconnected, the > Xserver resets. Normally xinit is the first process that connects to the > Xserver, exec the .xinitrc scripts and exits after the last program from > xinitrc (normally the windowmanger) has ended. > > You can switch the Xserver to not resetting by adding the switch -noreset > to the XWin commandline. This is not recommend if you use the Xserver for > terminals, since all settings that are made in a session are not reset > until > the next session starts. > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 06:32:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of stdout output Message-ID: <20020111143214.70392.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com> If I do a command the produces lots of fast output to stdout (like ls -l for a directory with lots of entries), my remote xterms hang. Local xterms that telnet into the remote site work fine. Are there some parameters I should be setting on XWin to help with this? TIA, -Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 06:34:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:34:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. In-Reply-To: <20020111141018.64988.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020111143359.40568.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am a bit confused about your question. If you are looking to run annother window manager, but not run it from the Windows box, then run it from the the linux box... Get the XFree/Cygwin server up >From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex. fvwm -display windows:0) I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the website. XDMCP allows you to log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the XFree/Cygwin server. It works well. Brian --- Raber Chris wrote: > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I > found the WEB UI to the list archive... > > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to > do some remote Linux work from my PC. > > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a > netscape or other browser from my remote linux > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to > work. > > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to. > > Suggestions are much appreciated. > > TIA, > > -Chris. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jan 11 06:35:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:35:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of stdout outpu t Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683248@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Raber Chris [mailto:cpraber@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:32 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of > stdout output > > > If I do a command the produces lots of fast output to > stdout (like ls -l for a directory with lots of > entries), my remote xterms hang. > > Local xterms that telnet into the remote site work > fine. > > Are there some parameters I should be setting on XWin > to help with this? I do not think so. If you can find the cause of this problem, we maybe able to fix it. Suhaib > > TIA, > > -Chris. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 06:45:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:45:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. In-Reply-To: <20020111143359.40568.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020111144546.83630.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com> Brian, You are a bit confused by my question because I am confused and propagating confusion! I am not sure if I want to run a different window manager or not. What I want is to be able to run a browser window from the remote Linux machine on my XWin client on cygwin. The reason is that I am going to be doing some installs via that browser and it makes my life easier (i.e. easier than using lynx that is). If I need to run a different window manager, then so be it. I have been reading about XDMCP but I don't fully get it. Can you point me to the best place to learn how to set up XDMCP for the Linux box? Is this a good reference: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ Thanks again, -Chris. --- Brian Genisio wrote: > Well, I am a bit confused about your question. If > you are looking to run > annother window manager, but not run it from the > Windows box, then run it from > the the linux box... > > Get the XFree/Cygwin server up > From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex. > fvwm -display windows:0) > > I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the > website. XDMCP allows you to > log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the > XFree/Cygwin server. It works > well. > > Brian > > > --- Raber Chris wrote: > > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I > > found the WEB UI to the list archive... > > > > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed > to > > do some remote Linux work from my PC. > > > > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms > from a > > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run > a > > netscape or other browser from my remote linux > > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem > to > > work. > > > > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome > to > > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use > some > > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to > > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to. > > > > Suggestions are much appreciated. > > > > TIA, > > > > -Chris. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 06:49:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:49:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. Message-ID: <20020111144903.70080.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am a bit confused about your question. If you are looking to run annother window manager, but not run it from the Windows box, then run it from the the linux box... Get the XFree/Cygwin server up >From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex. fvwm -display windows:0) I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the website. XDMCP allows you to log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the XFree/Cygwin server. It works well. Brian --- Raber Chris wrote: > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I > found the WEB UI to the list archive... > > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to > do some remote Linux work from my PC. > > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a > netscape or other browser from my remote linux > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to > work. > > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to. > > Suggestions are much appreciated. > > TIA, > > -Chris. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Fri Jan 11 06:56:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:56:00 -0000 Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ab01c19aaf$d120b320$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Ralf Habacker wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem, > > when starting some apps without any window manager. > > > > For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at > > the start of the launching process, which needs some time. At this time no > > window manager is running. With this configuration the color isn't set, > > but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window seems to be closed for > > a little while and comes back) After startung twm, kwm or kwin color > > setting works. The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example > > xdpyinfo without any window manager. When the end of the listing is > > reached the server "restarts". > > This is the normal behavior. After the last client disconnected, the > Xserver resets. Normally xinit is the first process that connects to the > Xserver, exec the .xinitrc scripts and exits after the last program from > xinitrc (normally the windowmanger) has ended. > > You can switch the Xserver to not resetting by adding the switch -noreset > to the XWin commandline. This is not recommend if you use the Xserver for > terminals, since all settings that are made in a session are not reset until > the next session starts. > Thats sounds good. ... > > It is a design feature of XFree86 (and most other X-Servers) to perform a > reset when the number of client connections goes to zero. In your case (and > as discussed before) the xsetroot program is the only client connected, so > after it set's the root background, it disconnects and XWin resets. AFIK > this behavior is not optional. You need to re-order the sequence of client > starts, so that there is a "persistent" client (like an xterm or the window > manager, or...) > bye The reason is, I don't like the default background while kde2 starts and this need a while. Thanks for this hints. Ralf From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 06:56:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:56:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of Message-ID: <20020111145619.88784.qmail@web13503.mail.yahoo.com> >I do not think so. If you can find the cause of this >problem, we maybe able >to fix it. >Suhaib The only thing I can offer is it seems to happen when lots of stdout output happens "fast". If I do some shell command that produces a little output, no problem. If I do some command that products "lots" of output, really "fast" then the remote xterm hangs. Again I don't have this problem if I telnet into the remote site with a local xterm and issue the same commands. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From flognat@flognat.myip.org Fri Jan 11 07:00:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:00:00 -0000 Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of stdout output In-Reply-To: <20020111143214.70392.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020111143214.70392.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: An alternative might be to try a rxvt from the remote host and see what happens.. /Andy / Raber Chris wrote: | If I do a command the produces lots of fast output to | stdout (like ls -l for a directory with lots of | entries), my remote xterms hang. | | Local xterms that telnet into the remote site work | fine. | | Are there some parameters I should be setting on XWin | to help with this? | | TIA, | | -Chris. | | __________________________________________________ | Do You Yahoo!? | Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! | http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ | -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 07:01:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:01:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. In-Reply-To: <20020111144546.83630.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020111150122.42227.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com> Well, running a browser should be as easy as running it with a display set : netscape -display winmachine:0 Or setting the display variable, and running netscape : setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0 netscape To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux box (I think most distributions have it on by default), simply use the following command line variables when starting the X server (This is in the user's manual): -query linuxIP -from windowsIP Brian --- Raber Chris wrote: > Brian, > > You are a bit confused by my question because I am > confused and propagating confusion! > > I am not sure if I want to run a different window > manager or not. What I want is to be able to run a > browser window from the remote Linux machine on my > XWin client on cygwin. The reason is that I am going > to be doing some installs via that browser and it > makes my life easier (i.e. easier than using lynx that > is). > > If I need to run a different window manager, then so > be it. I have been reading about XDMCP but I don't > fully get it. Can you point me to the best place to > learn how to set up XDMCP for the Linux box? Is this a > good reference: > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ > > Thanks again, > > -Chris. > > --- Brian Genisio wrote: > > Well, I am a bit confused about your question. If > > you are looking to run > > annother window manager, but not run it from the > > Windows box, then run it from > > the the linux box... > > > > Get the XFree/Cygwin server up > > From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex. > > fvwm -display windows:0) > > > > I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the > > website. XDMCP allows you to > > log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the > > XFree/Cygwin server. It works > > well. > > > > Brian > > > > > > --- Raber Chris wrote: > > > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I > > > found the WEB UI to the list archive... > > > > > > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed > > to > > > do some remote Linux work from my PC. > > > > > > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms > > from a > > > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run > > a > > > netscape or other browser from my remote linux > > > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem > > to > > > work. > > > > > > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome > > to > > > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use > > some > > > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to > > > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to. > > > > > > Suggestions are much appreciated. > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > -Chris. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 07:32:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:32:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. Message-ID: <20020111153230.97318.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com> Brian, > > Well, running a browser should be as easy as running it with > a display set : > > netscape -display winmachine:0 Tried this, does not work. No window ever is displayed. > > Or setting the display variable, and running netscape : > > setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0 > netscape Same problem. > > To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux box (I think most > distributions have it on by default), simply use the > following command line > variables when starting the X server (This is in the user's manual): > > -query linuxIP -from windowsIP > > Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 07:33:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. In-Reply-To: <20020111153230.97318.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020111153351.12039.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the command line interface that I mentioned in the last mail? Brian --- Raber Chris wrote: > Brian, > > > > > Well, running a browser should be as easy as running > it with > > a display set : > > > > netscape -display winmachine:0 > > Tried this, does not work. No window ever is > displayed. > > > > > Or setting the display variable, and running > netscape : > > > > setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0 > > netscape > > Same problem. > > > > > To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux > box (I think most > > distributions have it on by default), simply use the > > > following command line > > variables when starting the X server (This is in the > user's manual): > > > > -query linuxIP -from windowsIP > > > > Brian > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jan 11 07:36:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:36:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683249@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree website. What is your remote shell? CSH or BASH. If it is bash then you need export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0 Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:34 AM > To: Raber Chris; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Cc: briangenisio@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window. > > > So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the command line > interface that I mentioned in the last mail? > > Brian > > > --- Raber Chris wrote: > > Brian, > > > > > > > > Well, running a browser should be as easy as running > > it with > > > a display set : > > > > > > netscape -display winmachine:0 > > > > Tried this, does not work. No window ever is > > displayed. > > > > > > > > Or setting the display variable, and running > > netscape : > > > > > > setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0 > > > netscape > > > > Same problem. > > > > > > > > To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux > > box (I think most > > > distributions have it on by default), simply use the > > > > > following command line > > > variables when starting the X server (This is in the > > user's manual): > > > > > > -query linuxIP -from windowsIP > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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Message-ID: <20020111155909.19544.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> > > So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the command line > interface that I > mentioned in the last mail? Unfortunately the machine is physically remote from me and I am not root, so I haven't been able to try this yet. I do intend to try this, but it's going to take a little while... The documentation on XDMCP present on the cygwin site shows how to use XDMCP, but not how to set it up... > > Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 08:02:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:02:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. Message-ID: <20020111160220.82496.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com> >You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree website. That document shows how to use XDMPC, but not how to set it up. >What is your remote shell? CSH or BASH. If it is >bash then you need > >export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0 I am using bash and this is exactly how I am setting the DISPLAY variable. It's not working. Netscape sits there as a background job but never comes up on my XWin? Very wierd. > >Suhaib __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Fri Jan 11 08:07:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:07:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268324B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Raber Chris [mailto:cpraber@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:02 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window. > > > >You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree > website. > > That document shows how to use XDMPC, but not how to > set it up. > It is because you setup XDMCP at UNIX box and most UNIX boxes do this by default when you install OS. From Cygwin/Xfree you only use to connect. > >What is your remote shell? CSH or BASH. If it is > >bash then you need > > > >export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0 > > I am using bash and this is exactly how I am setting > the DISPLAY variable. It's not working. Netscape sits > there as a background job but never comes up on my > XWin? Very wierd. > Are you at a remote machine which is behind the firewall or maybe on another premisses? That might explain the hangs and lags. Suhaib > > > >Suhaib > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 08:08:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:08:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window. In-Reply-To: <20020111155909.19544.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020111160756.26973.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, but did you try it anyways? Most Linux distributions set XDMCP up as default when it sets up X. I would simply try it, before you worry about setting it up on the Linux system. Another thought about the Netscape problem you are having... How much time are you giving it to come up? How far away is the remote machine? (What is the ping rate?) If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so, Netscape will be dog slow, and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up.... X programs dont work too well over networks with latency (ie cable modem). The other thought, if you think your window manager is the problem... kill off twm, and run a window manager from the remote machine, and try it again. Brian --- Raber Chris wrote: > > > > So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the > command line > > interface that I > > mentioned in the last mail? > > Unfortunately the machine is physically remote from me > and I am not root, so I haven't been able to try this > yet. I do intend to try this, but it's going to take a > little while... > > The documentation on XDMCP present on the cygwin site > shows how to use XDMCP, but not how to set it up... > > > > > Brian > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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Due to our automated mailing system, please allow 7-14 days for this to take effect. http://www.barelylegallesbians.com/db/ From cpraber@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 09:00:00 2002 From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:00:00 -0000 Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com Message-ID: <20020111170018.87903.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com> > > Yes, but did you try it anyways? Most Linux distributions > set XDMCP up as > default when it sets up X. I would simply try it, before you > worry about > setting it up on the Linux system. I did try it. I got "too many retransmissions" errors. > > Another thought about the Netscape problem you are having... > How much time are > you giving it to come up? How far away is the remote > machine? (What is the > ping rate?) If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so, Netscape > will be dog slow, > and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up.... X > programs dont work too > well over networks with latency (ie cable modem). This is probably the issue. My ping latency is between 100 and 350 ms! I am over DSL and through a VPN to the server I am connecting too. Sounds like my expectations were not in line with reality on this. Now where is that lynx browser... ;-) > > The other thought, if you think your window manager is the > problem... kill off > twm, and run a window manager from the remote machine, and > try it again. > > Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 09:14:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:14:00 -0000 Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20020111170018.87903.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020111171357.80859.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah, with 100ms - 350ms, I know for a fact that Netscape is very slow. I am not sure if you know much about the X protocol, but a simple X program, such as xterm will send about 20 protocol messages out... Many of the X protocol messages are roundtrip and serial... Because of this, if you have (pseudo)code that does something like this : OpenDisplay CreateWindow GetGC GetFont Then you have AT_LEAST 4 round trip messages, assuming 1 message per call. (This is very often not the case) With low latency, this is not a problem, but let's assume a latency of 250ms. 4 round-trip messages will take 1 second!!! This is huge. Netscape, unfortuanately, is nowhere near a simple application. I have done some playing (using xmond), and found that Netscape makes tens of thousands of X protocol calls. Of course, not all of them are round trip, but the ones that are will hurt :( You can do the math... It could take close to forever for Netscape to come up... and when it does, it will be so painful to use, that it wont be worth it. You might find a more efficient browser... lnyx, (like you mentioned) would be one. You might also try dillo (dillo.sourceforge.net) It is a very simple browser that will be much more effiecient to use over a latency such as that. If dillo is not enough for you (It might not be), I know that Opera (Opera.com) boasts to be the fastest Web browser on earth... so we would hope that it has some more streamlined X communication, but I cant say for sure. Good luck, Brian --- Raber Chris wrote: > > > > Yes, but did you try it anyways? Most Linux > distributions > > set XDMCP up as > > default when it sets up X. I would simply try it, > before you > > worry about > > setting it up on the Linux system. > > I did try it. I got "too many retransmissions" errors. > > > > > Another thought about the Netscape problem you are > having... > > How much time are > > you giving it to come up? How far away is the > remote > > machine? (What is the > > ping rate?) If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so, > Netscape > > will be dog slow, > > and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up.... > X > > programs dont work too > > well over networks with latency (ie cable modem). > > This is probably the issue. My ping latency is between > 100 and 350 ms! I am over DSL and through a VPN to the > server I am connecting too. > > Sounds like my expectations were not in line with > reality on this. Now where is that lynx browser... ;-) > > > > > The other thought, if you think your window manager > is the > > problem... kill off > > twm, and run a window manager from the remote > machine, and > > try it again. > > > > Brian > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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References: <003d01c19ac4$564a6c30$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br> Message-ID: <3C3F2142.6010602@syntrex.com> Whoa - you're trying to run a linux application on windows! Maybe you need to visit http://cygwin.com and see what's the aim of the project... Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte wrote: > Hi, folks! > > has anybody installed Kylix under Cygwin/XFree? > I tried running the installer, but it doesn't seem to like Cygwin, and it > fails to run complaining of the versions of gcc and a few libraries. > If anybody knows the way to get it running, I would like to know. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jan 11 09:41:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20020111171357.80859.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote: > OpenDisplay > CreateWindow CreateWindow does not need Serverresponse. But the pixmap's needed for Netscape cause the high traffic > GetGC > GetFont bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 09:53:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:53:00 -0000 Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020111175341.75579.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah... I didnt know for sure which ones did, and which ones didnt cause round trip... I was simply giving examples.... Regardless, there are PLENTY of round-trip messages in Netscape. (xmond will show them.) Pixmaps cause high net traffic, but arent effected as much by latency as they are bandwidth. A DSL Cable modem usually doesnt have a problem with the pixmap transfer... Unless there is a lot of pixmap transfer, such as annimation. Still, it is a straight push, and latency matters much less in these cases. I have written applications that were able to load large pixmaps quickly across DSL or Cablemodem, but have also written programs with too many XSync calls (roundtrip wrapper that uses GetInputFocus), causing them to be unusable over Cable or DSL... It all depends if the designer cared about round-trip or not. Almost all Motif widgets use XSync calls, as well as calls that are not streamlined for latency. I would make a gross assumption that Netscape uses Motif, or other widget sets that are probably not extremely efficient. A possible help to the problem might be ssh X compression. It does a bit for pixmap transfer. LBX also can help a little on latency... There is a plain old X compressor out there as well... but I cant remember the name. Brian --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote: > > > OpenDisplay > > CreateWindow > > CreateWindow does not need Serverresponse. 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Thanx -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cdutzz@x263.net Fri Jan 11 23:48:00 2002 From: cdutzz@x263.net (cdutzz@x263.net) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:48:00 -0000 Subject: err from xwin.exe Message-ID: <20020112075312.2D8AEA474B@mx01.x263.net> I installed CygWin(2.125.2.10)+xFree 4.1.0 on Win2000(with sp2). When I run xwin.exe under Cygwin,I was told that the application fail to normal initialize at 0xc0000142 from a windows dialog box. What shall I do? ????263??????? http://freemail.x263.net welcome to enjoy 263 Freemail http://freemail.x263.net _____________________________________________________ 263??_???????? Tel:010-64240315 Fax:010-64240295 ?1998-2001???? 263???? 010-64262631 263@263.net.cn From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Jan 12 04:37:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 04:37:00 -0000 Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20020111175341.75579.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote: > Almost all Motif widgets use XSync calls, as well as calls that are not > streamlined for latency. I would make a gross assumption that Netscape uses > Motif, Yes, it uses Motif. There is (was) always a version linked staticly and one linked dynamicly against libXm. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From tilps@hotmail.com Sat Jan 12 04:43:00 2002 From: tilps@hotmail.com (Gareth Pearce) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 04:43:00 -0000 Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com References: <20020111175341.75579.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just as a 'case' I have used netscape on Cygwin Xfree - over a 33.6k MODEM :P yes it was dog slow ... (300ms latency i think...) but it Did work ... ssh X compression helped ALOT - i managed to get my marks from a university server which includes filling out 4-5 forms - a few dialog boxes poping up. etc in only 2 and a half hours. *snicker* if my university let people access their internal database servers by proxy server - life would be sooo much better... :P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Genisio" To: "Alexander Gottwald" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 4:53 AM Subject: Re: briangenisio@yahoo.com > Yeah... I didnt know for sure which ones did, and which ones didnt cause round > trip... I was simply giving examples.... Regardless, there are PLENTY of > round-trip messages in Netscape. (xmond will show them.) > > Pixmaps cause high net traffic, but arent effected as much by latency as they > are bandwidth. A DSL Cable modem usually doesnt have a problem with the pixmap > transfer... Unless there is a lot of pixmap transfer, such as annimation. > Still, it is a straight push, and latency matters much less in these cases. > > I have written applications that were able to load large pixmaps quickly across > DSL or Cablemodem, but have also written programs with too many XSync calls > (roundtrip wrapper that uses GetInputFocus), causing them to be unusable over > Cable or DSL... It all depends if the designer cared about round-trip or not. > > Almost all Motif widgets use XSync calls, as well as calls that are not > streamlined for latency. I would make a gross assumption that Netscape uses > Motif, or other widget sets that are probably not extremely efficient. > > A possible help to the problem might be ssh X compression. It does a bit for > pixmap transfer. LBX also can help a little on latency... There is a plain old > X compressor out there as well... but I cant remember the name. > > Brian > > > --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote: > > > > > OpenDisplay > > > CreateWindow > > > > CreateWindow does not need Serverresponse. But the pixmap's needed for > > Netscape cause the high traffic > > > GetGC > > > GetFont > > > > bye > > ago > > -- > > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > From refreshh@mit.edu Sat Jan 12 18:21:00 2002 From: refreshh@mit.edu (refreshh@mit.edu) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:21:00 -0000 Subject: install cygwin Message-ID: <1010888460.3c40ef0ca7953@webmail.mit.edu> To whom it may concern I've installed cygwin, and then I delete them by deleting directory cygwin and cyginstall. And then I tried again to install cygwin again. But I got bugges to install. Please let me know how to install cygwin again. Regards, Yeonjoo Kim ---------------------------------------------------------------- This mail sent using MIT WebMail. See http://web.mit.edu/webmail From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Jan 12 18:35:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:35:00 -0000 Subject: install cygwin Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683259@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Wrong list. Ask at cygwin@cygwin.com please Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: refreshh@mit.edu [mailto:refreshh@mit.edu] > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:21 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: install cygwin > > To whom it may concern > > I've installed cygwin, and then I delete them by deleting directory > cygwin and > cyginstall. And then I tried again to install cygwin again. But I > got bugges > to install. Please let me know how to install cygwin again. > > Regards, > Yeonjoo Kim > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent using MIT WebMail. See http://web.mit.edu/webmail From rmedina@ivic.ve Sat Jan 12 20:56:00 2002 From: rmedina@ivic.ve (Rodrigo Medina) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 20:56:00 -0000 Subject: Configuring UK keyboard and xterm ... Message-ID: <200201130056.AAA11816@pion.ivic.ve> Hello, I have just installed cygwin/xfree, and I have also found that control -click /left/middel/right do not function with xterm. I do not think that is due to a bug in xterm. I have tried with a xterm in a remote macine that I am sure it is OK, and the behavior is the same: Nothing happens. Rodrigo Medina rmedina@ivic.ve From gabrielarcos@cantv.net Sun Jan 13 14:29:00 2002 From: gabrielarcos@cantv.net (Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:29:00 -0000 Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration Message-ID: <002b01c19c1c$7d23cc80$0400000a@CANTV.NET> Hi all !! I have installed xfree binaries on cygwin, and I try to compile a simple piece of code: #include int main() { return 0;} and the compiler fail, becouse it can find the file Intrinsic.h Actually the file is in /usr/X11R6/include what enviroment variable I have to set to the compiler can find it? and what is the variable to the linker can find the X11 libraries? From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jan 13 14:38:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:38:00 -0000 Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268325A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta [mailto:gabrielarcos@cantv.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration > > Hi all !! > > I have installed xfree binaries on cygwin, and I try to compile a > simple > piece of code: > > #include > > int main() > { return 0;} > > and the compiler fail, becouse it can find the file Intrinsic.h > > Actually the file is in /usr/X11R6/include > > what enviroment variable I have to set to the compiler can find it? > and what > is the variable to the linker can find the X11 libraries? e.g gcc -O2 -g mysimple.c -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib Suhaib From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Jan 13 14:44:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:44:00 -0000 Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268325B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Please keep replies to the mailing list ONLY. Write a Makefile. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta [mailto:gabrielarcos@cantv.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:37 AM > To: Suhaib Siddiqi > Subject: Re: X11 includes and libraries path configuration > > but what I have to do to the compiler find the includes and libs > automatically, something like adding to PATH ?? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:38 PM > Subject: RE: X11 includes and libraries path configuration > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta [mailto:gabrielarcos@cantv.net] > > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:25 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration > > > > > > Hi all !! > > > > > > I have installed xfree binaries on cygwin, and I try to compile a > > > simple > > > piece of code: > > > > > > #include > > > > > > int main() > > > { return 0;} > > > > > > and the compiler fail, becouse it can find the file Intrinsic.h > > > > > > Actually the file is in /usr/X11R6/include > > > > > > what enviroment variable I have to set to the compiler can find > it? > > > and what > > > is the variable to the linker can find the X11 libraries? > > > > e.g gcc -O2 -g mysimple.c -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib > > > > Suhaib > > From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Jan 14 11:00:00 2002 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP Message-ID: <000b01c19d2d$b90164d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Hi, There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a remote host using XDMCP. Basically the sequence is this: 1. Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system". Initially, the authorisation file contains no records, so the localhost has access to the X server by default. I quote from the Xserver man page: If this file contains any authorization records, the local host is not automatically allowed access to the server, and only clients which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the connection setup information will be allowed access. 2. XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection to the local PC. The first thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system This means that localhost loses access to the X server. 3. After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host. It fails with the error message: "Could not open display" Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access: xhost +127.0.0.1 I failed with the error messages: Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server I read some more about host access, and I created a /etc/X0.hosts file, and I deleted the .Xauthority file. This caused a different error. XWin failed with the message: "X connection to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)." I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line parameter. This is meant to open access to all hosts. Xwinclip still couldn't open the display. If XWin is used with a local window manager, this xwinclip (and any other client program which runs on the PC) will run sucessfully. However, if XDMCP is used to connect to another system, then it fails. I'm completely stuck. Any help would be very appreciated. regards Matthew From briangenisio@yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 11:25:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:25:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP In-Reply-To: <000b01c19d2d$b90164d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <20020114192529.7467.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> What is your DISPLAY variable set to? I am a bit confused, since one output talks about a server going to 127.0.0.1:3.0 . If your X server is on :0, xwinclip will never be able to connect, regardless of the authorities. Will other local X programs run? xterm, xeyes, xwininfo, etc? Brian --- Matthew Donald wrote: > Hi, > > There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a > remote host using XDMCP. > > Basically the sequence is this: > > 1. Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system". Initially, the authorisation > file contains no records, so the localhost > has access to the X server by default. I quote from the Xserver man page: > > If this file contains any authorization records, the > local host is not automatically allowed access to the server, and > only clients > which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the > connection > setup information will be allowed access. > > 2. XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection > to the local PC. The first > thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system This > means that localhost loses access > to the X server. > > 3. After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host. It fails with > the error message: "Could not open display" > > Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access: > > xhost +127.0.0.1 > > I failed with the error messages: > > Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > > I read some more about host access, and I created a /etc/X0.hosts file, and > I deleted the .Xauthority file. > This caused a different error. XWin failed with the message: "X connection > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken > (explicit kill or server shutdown)." > > I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line parameter. This is meant > to open access to all hosts. > Xwinclip still couldn't open the display. > > If XWin is used with a local window manager, this xwinclip (and any other > client program which runs on the PC) > will run sucessfully. However, if XDMCP is used to connect to another > system, then it fails. > > I'm completely stuck. Any help would be very appreciated. > > regards Matthew > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From sanwa@nns.ne.jp Mon Jan 14 14:12:00 2002 From: sanwa@nns.ne.jp (sanwa@nns.ne.jp) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:12:00 -0000 Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCo4NTUkJEckOSQrGyhC?= Message-ID: <200201142222.HAA91309@nns.ne.jp> ???????? http://www.mailland.tv From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Mon Jan 14 14:21:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:21:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment Message-ID: <010701c19d49$75704530$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE> Hi Suhaib, it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a patched libxext relating to this thread http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html? If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a link to the kde-cygwin project on sourcforge, where one can find such a lib. Ralf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Jan 14 14:23:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:23:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683267@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Sure, I will put add to URL Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:19 PM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Building Enlightenment > > > Hi Suhaib, > > it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a > patched libxext relating to this thread > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html? > > If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a > link to the kde-cygwin project on sourcforge, where one can > find such a lib. > > Ralf > > From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Mon Jan 14 15:00:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:00:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683267@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <010801c19d4e$e2b46e50$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:23 PM > To: 'Cygwin-Xfree' > Subject: RE: Building Enlightenment > > > > Sure, I will put add to URL This is the url to the downloadpage http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249 The package is currently named kde-xlib-1.1.tar.gz and contains libXext and libICE (missing ICEConnectionNumber symbol) and based on the xfree 4.1 release. The release number my be changed If the libICE in this package is a problem, let me know. Ralf > > Suhaib > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:19 PM > > To: Cygwin-Xfree > > Subject: Building Enlightenment > > > > > > Hi Suhaib, > > > > it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a > > patched libxext relating to this thread > > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html? > > > > If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a > > link to the kde-cygwin project on sourcforge, where one can > > find such a lib. > > > > Ralf > > > > > From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Mon Jan 14 15:02:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:02:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment Message-ID: <010901c19d4f$2d6cd950$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE> > > > > > > Sure, I will put add to URL > > This is the url to the downloadpage > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249 > > The package is currently named kde-xlib-1.1.tar.gz and contains libXext and libICE > (missing ICEConnectionNumber symbol) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ups. This is not right. It is IceLastMajorOpcode, that is missing. Index: ICE-def.cpp =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/ICE/ICE-def.cpp,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -b -B -r1.5 ICE-def.cpp --- ICE-def.cpp 2001/04/18 16:13:18 1.5 +++ ICE-def.cpp 2002/01/14 23:00:34 @@ -69,6 +69,7 @@ _IceTransGetConnectionNumber _IceTransRead _IceTransWrite + _IceLastMajorOpcode /* $Xorg: ICE-def.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/21 16:42:31 coskrey Exp $ */ /* $XFree86: xc/lib/ICE/ICE-def.cpp,v 1.5 2001/04/18 16:13:18 dawes Exp $ */ > If the libICE in this package is a problem, let me know. > > Ralf > > > > > Suhaib > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] > > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:19 PM > > > To: Cygwin-Xfree > > > Subject: Building Enlightenment > > > > > > > > > Hi Suhaib, > > > > > > it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a > > > patched libxext relating to this thread > > > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html? > > > > > > If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a > > > link to the kde-cygwin project on sourcforge, where one can > > > find such a lib. > > > > > > Ralf > > > > > > > > From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Jan 14 21:36:00 2002 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:36:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP Message-ID: <00fa01c19d86$9f0a85d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Hi Brian, The DISPLAY variable is set to "127.0.0.1:0" The ".3" value is a typo. My previous tests were showing that xwinclip always failed to open the display. This time, I waited until the kdm logon screen was displayed. Provided that the localhost was specified in /etc/X0.hosts, xwinclip would run. Clearly, there is a timing problem here. I added a 30 second delay (some kludges really make me gag :-) and xwinclip runs sucessfully. Does anyone know why xterm waits for the server while xwinclip doesn't? regards Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Genisio" To: "Matthew Donald" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Re: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP > What is your DISPLAY variable set to? I am a bit confused, since one output > talks about a server going to 127.0.0.1:3.0 . If your X server is on :0, > xwinclip will never be able to connect, regardless of the authorities. > > Will other local X programs run? xterm, xeyes, xwininfo, etc? > > Brian > > > --- Matthew Donald wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a > > remote host using XDMCP. > > > > Basically the sequence is this: > > > > 1. Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system". Initially, the authorisation > > file contains no records, so the localhost > > has access to the X server by default. I quote from the Xserver man page: > > > > If this file contains any authorization records, the > > local host is not automatically allowed access to the server, and > > only clients > > which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the > > connection > > setup information will be allowed access. > > > > 2. XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection > > to the local PC. The first > > thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system This > > means that localhost loses access > > to the X server. > > > > 3. After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host. It fails with > > the error message: "Could not open display" > > > > Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access: > > > > xhost +127.0.0.1 > > > > I failed with the error messages: > > > > Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by server > > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > > > > I read some more about host access, and I created a /etc/X0.hosts file, and > > I deleted the .Xauthority file. > > This caused a different error. XWin failed with the message: "X connection > > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken > > (explicit kill or server shutdown)." > > > > I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line parameter. This is meant > > to open access to all hosts. > > Xwinclip still couldn't open the display. > > > > If XWin is used with a local window manager, this xwinclip (and any other > > client program which runs on the PC) > > will run sucessfully. However, if XDMCP is used to connect to another > > system, then it fails. > > > > I'm completely stuck. Any help would be very appreciated. > > > > regards Matthew > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 15 00:08:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:08:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP In-Reply-To: <000b01c19d2d$b90164d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Matthew Donald wrote: > Hi, > > There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a > remote host using XDMCP. > > Basically the sequence is this: > > 1. Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system". Initially, the authorisation > file contains no records, so the localhost > has access to the X server by default. I quote from the Xserver man page: > > If this file contains any authorization records, the > local host is not automatically allowed access to the server, and > only clients > which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the > connection > setup information will be allowed access. > > 2. XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection > to the local PC. The first > thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system This > means that localhost loses access > to the X server. > > 3. After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host. It fails with > the error message: "Could not open display" > > Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access: > > xhost +127.0.0.1 This is wrong. 127.0.0.1 is the ip adress for localhost. On every computer, 127.0.0.1 points to itself. Say you have a windows host with ip 192.168.26.201 and a unix host with ip 192.168.26.202, they can only communicate with these ip adresses. Connecting 127.0.0.1 from the windows host will connect to the windows host and connecting 127.0.0.1 from the unix host will connect to the unix host. The correct way is to run xhost windows.host.ip and xwinclip -display windows.host.ip:0 > > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken Why are you connecting to display 3? this should be 127.0.0.1:0 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 15 02:26:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 02:26:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > This is wrong. 127.0.0.1 is the ip adress for localhost. On every computer, > 127.0.0.1 points to itself. Say you have a windows host with ip 192.168.26.201 > and a unix host with ip 192.168.26.202, they can only communicate with these > ip adresses. Connecting 127.0.0.1 from the windows host will connect to the > windows host and connecting 127.0.0.1 from the unix host will connect to the > unix host. Ooops, I should not write mails that early. Since the XServer is running on the windows host, xhost 127.0.0.1 will allow the windows host to connect to the Xserver. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From matthew.donald@motile.net Tue Jan 15 03:49:00 2002 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 03:49:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP References: Message-ID: <022301c19dba$917534e0$2102a8c0@motile.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Re: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP > This is wrong. 127.0.0.1 is the ip adress for localhost. On every computer, > 127.0.0.1 points to itself. Say you have a windows host with ip 192.168.26.201 > and a unix host with ip 192.168.26.202, they can only communicate with these > ip adresses. Connecting 127.0.0.1 from the windows host will connect to the > windows host and connecting 127.0.0.1 from the unix host will connect to the > unix host. > > The correct way is to run xhost windows.host.ip and xwinclip -display > windows.host.ip:0 I use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost or windows.host.ip because I can't guarentee that these names will be defined. While I agree that 127.0.0.1 is inelegant, it has the advantage that it will always work even if the PC is configured with a broken host file and DNS is not configured. Running 'xhost +127.0.0.1' (or 'xhost +localhost') results in an X access error, as I explained previously > > > > > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken > > Why are you connecting to display 3? this should be 127.0.0.1:0 Sorry, the ':3' was a typo. regards Matthew. From matthew.donald@motile.net Tue Jan 15 04:12:00 2002 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation) Message-ID: <023701c19dbd$d9cb3e80$2102a8c0@motile.net> Hi Shane, Cygwin/Xfree and XDMCP work correctly. I only get a problem when running a local X client at the same time as a remote X client (via XDMCP). It turns out a /etc/X0.hosts file containing a 'localhost' entry is needed. Also xwinclip does not wait for the X server to complete startup, while some other clients (such as xterm) do. Any ideas why xwinclip does wait for X server startup? cheers Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Shields" To: "Matthew Donald" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP > > --- Matthew Donald wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X > > server which connects to a > > remote host using XDMCP. > > > > Basically the sequence is this: > > > > 1. Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system". > > Initially, the authorisation > > file contains no records, so the localhost > > has access to the X server by default. I quote from > > the Xserver man page: > > > > If this file contains any authorization > > records, the > > local host is not automatically allowed > > access to the server, and > > only clients > > which send one of the authorization records > > contained in the file in the > > connection > > setup information will be allowed access. > > > > 2. XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which > > then opens a connection > > to the local PC. The first > > thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for > > some.host.system This > > means that localhost loses access > > to the X server. > > > > 3. After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the > > local host. It fails with > > the error message: "Could not open display" > > > > Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow > > access: > > > > xhost +127.0.0.1 > > > > I failed with the error messages: > > > > Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by > > server > > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to > > Server > > > > I read some more about host access, and I created a > > /etc/X0.hosts file, and > > I deleted the .Xauthority file. > > This caused a different error. XWin failed with the > > message: "X connection > > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken > > (explicit kill or server shutdown)." > > > > I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line > > parameter. This is meant > > to open access to all hosts. > > Xwinclip still couldn't open the display. > > > > If XWin is used with a local window manager, this > > xwinclip (and any other > > client program which runs on the PC) > > will run sucessfully. However, if XDMCP is used to > > connect to another > > system, then it fails. > > > > I'm completely stuck. Any help would be very > > appreciated. > > > > regards Matthew > > > > > > > > have you opened up the xdmcp port in hosts.allow > otherwise it wont let you in > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 15 11:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:02:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment Message-ID: > + _IceLastMajorOpcode Why does this symbol need to be exported? I need some description to put in the patch submission if I'm going to send this on to XFree86. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 15 11:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:48:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation) Message-ID: > Hi Shane, > > Cygwin/Xfree and XDMCP work correctly. I only get a problem when running a > local X client at the same time as a remote X client (via XDMCP). It turns > out a /etc/X0.hosts file containing a 'localhost' entry is needed. Also > xwinclip does not wait for the X server to complete startup, while some > other clients (such as xterm) do. > > Any ideas why xwinclip does wait for X server startup? > > cheers Matthew I wrote xwinclip. The reason that it behaves differently than 'xterm' is that xterm uses the XToolkit library, which xwinclip cannot use. xwinclip cannot use XT because we need to have a specialized event loop that processes both X events and Win32 messages. xwinclip needs the extra options provided by using the X11 api directly, rather than through a toolkit. Now, you ask "why xwinclip [doesn't] wait for X server startup?" I can answer that question simply: because not enough is known about how we need to "wait". In other words, the issue is not well enough defined for it to be solved. I just added a loop that retries opening the X display several times. That change didn't really do anything. Part of the problem is that the X Server (in a part of the code that we did not write) accepts the xwinclip connection before xdmcp connects to the remote host. xdmcp causes the server to reset when it gets a connection to the remote host, so xwinclip is shutdown after xdmcp connects. Now, two ideas come to mind to solve that problem, neither of which will work: 1) Don't exit when we receive a message that the server is going to reset. Instead, try to reconnect for about ten seconds. The problem here is that the error is generated by a libX11 function, which calls _XDefaultIOError to report the error. The problem with _XDefaultIOError is that it then calls exit(1), so xwinclip never has a chance to handle the error on its own. 2) Delay connecting to the X server by a number of seconds, regardless of whether xdmcp is being used or not (as we have no way of knowing). Perhaps even allow a parameter to specify how many seconds to delay. This solution only duplicates the functionality of the 'sleep x' command, where x is the timeout in seconds. There is no point in duplicating functionality. The only way that I know of to get xwinclip to work with XDMCP is to change your batch file (startxwin.bat) to something like the following: start /B XWin -noreset -ac -query huntharo-4.user.msu.edu sleep 8 start /B xwinclip That's it for now, Harold From darko.palic@gmx.de Tue Jan 15 12:18:00 2002 From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Herold, I have no idea how to solve the problem with the xwinclip, but I use xwinclip with XDMCP since it is available. I??m running on different machines, and a delay of 10 seconds is too short for some machines! I??m using a sleep 15 directly after starting XWin in XDMCP. The slowest machine a TP770X (P3-300) had no more problems after setting the delay to 15 seconds, maybe some slower machines could need a longer delay. A mechanism would be helpfull, there the xwinclip retries to connect to the XServer every x seconds in overall time of lets say 30 seconds. But, that seems to be the problem with the libX11. :-( regards, Darko From matthew.donald@motile.net Tue Jan 15 13:04:00 2002 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation) References: Message-ID: <032a01c19e08$3fcbeaa0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Hi Harold, Thanks for your enlightening note. I've placed a 30 second delay in my code which kludges around the problem. I like your suggestion of retrying xwinclip every, say 4 seconds, until it connects. I'm still puzzled by the security issues. Does XDMCP cause the localhost to lose access to the X server? I'm creating a /etc/X0.hosts file to ensure that localhost retains access. Is there a better way? cheers Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: Cc: "cygx" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: RE: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation) > > Hi Shane, > > > > Cygwin/Xfree and XDMCP work correctly. I only get a problem when running > a > > local X client at the same time as a remote X client (via XDMCP). It > turns > > out a /etc/X0.hosts file containing a 'localhost' entry is needed. Also > > xwinclip does not wait for the X server to complete startup, while some > > other clients (such as xterm) do. > > > > Any ideas why xwinclip does wait for X server startup? > > > > cheers Matthew > > I wrote xwinclip. The reason that it behaves differently than 'xterm' is > that xterm uses the XToolkit library, which xwinclip cannot use. xwinclip > cannot use XT because we need to have a specialized event loop that > processes both X events and Win32 messages. xwinclip needs the extra > options provided by using the X11 api directly, rather than through a > toolkit. > > Now, you ask "why xwinclip [doesn't] wait for X server startup?" I can > answer that question simply: because not enough is known about how we need > to "wait". In other words, the issue is not well enough defined for it to > be solved. > > I just added a loop that retries opening the X display several times. That > change didn't really do anything. > > Part of the problem is that the X Server (in a part of the code that we did > not write) accepts the xwinclip connection before xdmcp connects to the > remote host. xdmcp causes the server to reset when it gets a connection to > the remote host, so xwinclip is shutdown after xdmcp connects. > > Now, two ideas come to mind to solve that problem, neither of which will > work: > 1) Don't exit when we receive a message that the server is going to reset. > Instead, try to reconnect for about ten seconds. > > The problem here is that the error is generated by a libX11 function, > which calls _XDefaultIOError to report the error. The problem with > _XDefaultIOError is that it then calls exit(1), so xwinclip never has a > chance to handle the error on its own. > > 2) Delay connecting to the X server by a number of seconds, regardless of > whether xdmcp is being used or not (as we have no way of knowing). Perhaps > even allow a parameter to specify how many seconds to delay. > > This solution only duplicates the functionality of the 'sleep x' command, > where x is the timeout in seconds. There is no point in duplicating > functionality. > > > The only way that I know of to get xwinclip to work with XDMCP is to change > your batch file (startxwin.bat) to something like the following: > > start /B XWin -noreset -ac -query huntharo-4.user.msu.edu > sleep 8 > start /B xwinclip > > That's it for now, > > Harold > From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Tue Jan 15 14:16:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:16:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <013d01c19e11$e2014050$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE> > > > + _IceLastMajorOpcode > > Why does this symbol need to be exported? I need some description to put in > the patch submission if I'm going to send this on to XFree86. > I've got some errors from people who were compiling the kdelibs 2.1.1 from the kde-cygwin cvs area and the dcopserver depends on this. For kde 2.2.x this isn't recommended, because the dcopserver uses a patched ICE lib, which was located in kdelibs/dcop/KDE-ICE and does not need the origin libICE. I have added this patched lib to the kde-xlib package to support those people. Only for kde I think this patch is not absolutly nessessary to submit to the xfree group, because kde 2.1.1 is obsolate and today I have send a request to the sourceforge stuff to remove the kde 2.1.1 source release from the cvs area. But it may be other apps who like to use this and this seems to me the only symbol which isn't exported yet. Does this have any specific reason ? Why should this symbol not be exported anyway ? This would reduce some question about why this was not exported in the future. What about if someone is going to use the kde 2.1.1 dcopserver for another project. He has to ask again about this missing symbol. Any comments ? Ralf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Jan 15 14:19:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:19:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268326C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> _IceLastMajorOpcode symbol should be added to libICE-def.cpp file. I missed it originally. It is exported in libICE.so at Linux and other UNIX platforms. You can do an nm on libICE on a UNIX box. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:14 PM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: RE: Building Enlightenment > > > > > > > + _IceLastMajorOpcode > > > > Why does this symbol need to be exported? I need some > description to > > put in the patch submission if I'm going to send this on to XFree86. > > > I've got some errors from people who were compiling the > kdelibs 2.1.1 from the kde-cygwin cvs area and the dcopserver > depends on this. > > For kde 2.2.x this isn't recommended, because the dcopserver > uses a patched ICE lib, which was located in > kdelibs/dcop/KDE-ICE and does not need the origin libICE. I > have added this patched lib to the kde-xlib package to > support those people. > > Only for kde I think this patch is not absolutly nessessary > to submit to the xfree group, because kde 2.1.1 is obsolate > and today I have send a request to the sourceforge stuff to > remove the kde 2.1.1 source release from the cvs area. > > But it may be other apps who like to use this and this seems > to me the only symbol which isn't exported yet. Does this > have any specific reason ? Why should this symbol not be > exported anyway ? This would reduce some question about why > this was not exported in the future. What about if someone is > going to use the kde 2.1.1 dcopserver for another project. He > has to ask again about this missing symbol. > > Any comments ? > > Ralf > From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Tue Jan 15 14:45:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:45:00 -0000 Subject: Help with xfree86 cygwin install on NT4 In-Reply-To: <4CFB0866A7D0D411BC8700508B6937B94E2B64@USA0102MS1> References: <4CFB0866A7D0D411BC8700508B6937B94E2B64@USA0102MS1> Message-ID: <20020115224220.GF6957@redhat.com> Wrong mailing list. Redirected to correct mailing list. cgf On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:35:28PM -0500, Mcelhatten, Rhuel wrote: >Hello - > I recently installed Cygwin on an NT4 machine, service pack 5. After >doing so I installed the XFree86 binaries, version 4.1.0, but I get the >error >"\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe is not a valid Windows NT application" when >running the startxwin.bat script included with the XFree86 binaries. If i >try running the startxwin.sh or just running XWin.exe from the Cygwin shell, >the only error I receive is 'Access Denied'. Any help would be appreciated. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 15 15:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jeremiah, > I did notice a recurring typo, though: in sections 9.4-9.6, you > have "whom" > where you should have "who". The word 'whom' is not a typo. The usage of 'whom' is one of the finer points of the English language. I can assure you that I used it correctly, as an interrogative. The definition and usage of 'whom' is discussed at: http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?whom Thanks all the same, Harold P.S. A link to the sections in question: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-copyright-cygwin- xfree86 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremiah Kivi Shapiro [mailto:jeremiah_shapiro@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:15 PM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo > > > Hello, > > Thanks for the Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ! It's very handy, and one of > the reasons > I'll be giving the program(s?) a try. > > I did notice a recurring typo, though: in sections 9.4-9.6, you > have "whom" > where you should have "who". > > Yours sincerely, > Jeremiah From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 15 15:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:32:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 Documentation 0.9.6 Message-ID: Links: I just posted release 0.9.6 to the documentation development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/documentation/ Documentation, formatted, direct links: Contributor's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg User's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/ FAQ http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ Documentation source releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/documentation/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Documentation source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/cygwin-xfree-doc-0.9.6.tar.gz (261 KiB) Changes: 1) CG - Create the initial version of the Documentation chapter. 2) UG - Instruct the user to download extract.exe.gz instead of extract.exe.bz2. The bzip2 package is no longer installed by default. The simplest solution to the commonly reported problem of bunzip2 not being present is to use gzip instead. 3) UG - Add more detailed information about each of the &project;-specific command line parameters. 4) General - Move the Free Documentation License source to a common location. 5) General - Add a global entities declaration file for entities common to all documents. Enjoy, Harold From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 15 16:11:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:11:00 -0000 Subject: Starting CDE from Solaris In-Reply-To: <001c01c19d2b$35a8bd10$14010059@metrong.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Tunde Itayemi wrote: > Is it possible to have Solaris display on a Windows Machime without some > sort of X-server software running on the Windows system? Or what is the > purpose of the command: Ok, just to explain what the XWindow system is: X (in short for XWindow System) ist a network protcol which allows you the describe the things you want to draw on the screen of you monitor. This is not very impressing, but there is still more! X allows you to send this description via TCP/IP, Decnet and maybe some other strange protocol to a remote host. This means there is only a network cable (or some air for wireless networks) between the two computers. Combining the two amazing features, you have a system where you can send information what should be drawn (eg. a small red triangle and the letters "ago is cool :)") to a remote computer and this computer does the drawing, but the program which issued the command to draw this runs on the local computer. > xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query -from XWin is nothing else than a program which does this drawing to screen for you. Actually it runs on the remote computer (from the point of view of you're solrais programs). This program is called the "X-Server". The programs on the Solaris machine are called "X-Clients". The terms are choosen that way because the "X-Server" does the drawing for the "X-Clients" and therefore offers a service to them. To return to your question: It is of course possible to display the solaris output on the pc without an Xserver, but the XServer is the easiest and most common way. bye ago PS: Spelling mistakes are in no way related to the amount of alcohol if had consumed be I started writing this mail :) PPS: The same applies for gramatical errors and non-pc parts of the mail :) PPPS: Please ask these question on the cygwin-xfree mailing list. This will help you receiving an fast response. -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 15 16:19:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:19:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation) In-Reply-To: <032a01c19e08$3fcbeaa0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Matthew Donald wrote: > I'm still puzzled by the security issues. Does XDMCP cause the localhost to > lose access to the X server? I'm creating a /etc/X0.hosts file to ensure > that localhost retains access. Is there a better way? Yes. Getting the autorization via xauth/Xauthority. But this is quite tricky for our need. Maybe a solution with windows-clipboardserver and unix-clipboardclient (running as native X11 application on solaris/linux/cygwin) would be the best but requires some time and developers. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From kathy@artaxi.org Tue Jan 15 20:31:00 2002 From: kathy@artaxi.org (kathy) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:31:00 -0000 Subject: www.Aerotaxi.net Message-ID: www.Aerotaxi.net From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jan 16 08:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:31:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo Message-ID: I had meant to send this reply to Jeremiah to the list, to address the issue of 'whom' in a fair manner. Harold -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:19 PM To: jkshapiro@alumni.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo Jeremiah, Well, if the usage of 'whom' and 'who' really, really bothers you, then I'll make a proposal: I will accept, without argument, a patch from you [or anyone else] against the freshly released documentation sources that changes the current usage of 'who' and 'whom', with one condition: your patch must make a significant (non-editorial) contribution to at least one other Q/A item in the FAQ. (Adding a Q/A item would be considered significant). Sound fair? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremiah Kivi Shapiro [mailto:jeremiah_shapiro@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:56 PM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: RE: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo > > > Dear Harold, > > Thanks for the link to > - http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?whom > > "Whom" definitely is an English word, and I agree it should be > used as much > as possible. However, I do think its use in sections 9.4-9.6 of > the FAQ is > a little overenthusiastic. Here are some other links on the subject: > - http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?who > - http://m-w.com/wftw/00sep/092600.htm > - http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970711 > - http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/page/0,5817,184822,00.html > - http://www.bartleby.com/68/15/6515.html > - http://www.bartleby.com/68/62/3062.html > > Yours sincerely, > Jeremiah > > > > >From: "Harold Hunt" > >To: > >CC: "cygx" > >Subject: RE: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo > >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:21:08 -0500 > > > >Jeremiah, > > > > > I did notice a recurring typo, though: in sections 9.4-9.6, you > > > have "whom" > > > where you should have "who". > > > >The word 'whom' is not a typo. The usage of 'whom' is one of the finer > >points of the English language. I can assure you that I used it > correctly, > >as an interrogative. The definition and usage of 'whom' is discussed at: > >http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?whom > > > >Thanks all the same, > > > >Harold > > > >P.S. A link to the sections in question: > >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-copyri ght-cygwin- >xfree86 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeremiah Kivi Shapiro [mailto:jeremiah_shapiro@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:15 PM > > To: huntharo@msu.edu > > Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Thanks for the Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ! It's very handy, and one of > > the reasons > > I'll be giving the program(s?) a try. > > > > I did notice a recurring typo, though: in sections 9.4-9.6, you > > have "whom" > > where you should have "who". > > > > Yours sincerely, > > Jeremiah > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jan 16 08:37:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:37:00 -0000 Subject: Building Enlightenment Message-ID: Ralf, I sent in your patch of ICE-def.cpp to XFree86. Thanks for the patch, Harold From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Wed Jan 16 09:57:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:57:00 -0000 Subject: Cyg xfree86 webpage suggestion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020116175811.GI25452@redhat.com> On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:46:13AM -0600, David Kohn wrote: >Hi Cygwin and Christopher Faylor, There is no reason to personally address email to a mailing list. >Just a quick suggestion, from someone who just went through >downloading/installing Cygwin/Xfree86: > >It might cut down on confusion,etc, if on the Cygwin/Xfree86 page where it >mentions downloads, you warn people in advance of problems they may >encounter. Hmm. You apparently found the XFree86 web page but you are sending email to the wrong mailing list. I have very little to do cygwin-xfree. It is maintained by other people. I've redirected this message to the correct list. cgf >Before they try installing Cyg/XFree86, they should first do the following >w/ their CygWin: > - update their cygwin to something reasonably current > - subsequently grab the older version of ncurses (to avoid that >cygncurses5.dll problem when launching X) > - in the cygwin installer, make sure they select "Unix" linefeeds instead >of "DOS" (to avoid that "font not found" problem) > >I found these links helpful in tracking down help and instructions, FWIW: > >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2001/msg00124.html >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof > >Other than that, the installation was straightforward and the install >instructions in the User Guide worked great! > >Thanks for your excellent work and generosity in making these packages >available to the public! >Dave Kohn From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Wed Jan 16 10:39:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:39:00 -0000 Subject: X server hangs when adding fonts server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020116184004.GA27836@redhat.com> This must be a new record. This is the WRONG MAILING LIST. I've redirected your request to the proper mailing list. cgf On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 08:37:22PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >Hi > >I'm using standard cygwin (1.3.6) with XFree 4.1.0 and test server 53 (I'm >not totally sure. Anyway, its size is 3,045,888 ). The system is NT 4, >service-pack 6. > >The X server hangs (100% CPU) whenever I try to add a different fonts >server to the font path (adding an additional dir works fine). > >I tried several different servers, and they seem to give the same result. > >Any idea what it is? Any additional information is required? > >FWIW, here is a part of the loop the X server is in (when run under >strace): > > 6060 107726020 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 6, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C > 9424 107735444 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 5 > 5331 107740775 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0 > 5424 107746199 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0 > 4999 107751198 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5400 107756598 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0 > 4976 107761574 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning > 5322 107766896 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x150 > 4945 107771841 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 5 > 5489 107777330 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 0 >10200 107787530 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 0 > 5615 107793145 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 4897 107798042 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records > > 5749 107803791 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 7, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C >10324 107814115 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 6 > 4965 107819080 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0 > 5345 107824425 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0 > 5079 107829504 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5517 107835021 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0 > 5411 107840432 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning > 4909 107845341 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x70 > 5561 107850902 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 6 > 5052 107855954 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1 >10418 107866372 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 6 (/dev/streamsocket) > 5475 107871847 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1 > 4823 107876670 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1 >10875 107887545 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5049 107892594 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records > > 5581 107898175 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 8, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C >10419 107908594 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 7 > 4903 107913497 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0 > 5424 107918921 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0 > 5082 107924003 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5483 107929486 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0 > 5381 107934867 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning > 5058 107939925 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x1AC > 5407 107945332 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 7 > 5222 107950554 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1 >10270 107960824 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 7 (/dev/streamsocket) > 5488 107966312 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1 > 5001 107971313 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1 >10770 107982083 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 4977 107987060 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records > > 5765 107992825 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 255, 0x70503C, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F9CC >10313 108003138 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/tcp fd 0 > 4954 108008092 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 1 > 6060 107726020 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 6, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C > 9424 107735444 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 5 > 5331 107740775 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0 > 5424 107746199 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0 > 4999 107751198 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5400 107756598 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0 > 4976 107761574 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning > 5322 107766896 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x150 > 4945 107771841 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 5 > 5489 107777330 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 0 >10200 107787530 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 0 > 5615 107793145 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 4897 107798042 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records > > 5749 107803791 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 7, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C >10324 107814115 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 6 > 4965 107819080 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0 > 5345 107824425 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0 > 5079 107829504 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5517 107835021 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0 > 5411 107840432 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning > 4909 107845341 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x70 > 5561 107850902 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 6 > 5052 107855954 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1 >10418 107866372 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 6 (/dev/streamsocket) > 5475 107871847 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1 > 4823 107876670 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1 >10875 107887545 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5049 107892594 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records > > 5581 107898175 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 8, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C >10419 107908594 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 7 > 4903 107913497 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0 > 5424 107918921 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0 > 5082 107924003 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 5483 107929486 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0 > 5381 107934867 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning > 5058 107939925 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x1AC > 5407 107945332 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 7 > 5222 107950554 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1 >10270 107960824 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 7 (/dev/streamsocket) > 5488 107966312 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1 > 5001 107971313 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1 >10770 107982083 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines > 4977 107987060 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records > > 5765 107992825 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 255, 0x70503C, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F9CC >10313 108003138 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/tcp fd 0 > 4954 108008092 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 1 > > >-- >Tzafrir Cohen /"\ >mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign >Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail >http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Wed Jan 16 10:55:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:55:00 -0000 Subject: X server hangs when adding fonts server In-Reply-To: <20020116184004.GA27836@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote: > This must be a new record. > > This is the WRONG MAILING LIST. Sorry > > I've redirected your request to the proper mailing list. Thanks -- Tzafrir Cohen /"\ mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ From lee.1801@osu.edu Wed Jan 16 11:30:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: adjust the number of bash windows opened Message-ID: <015301c19ec5$9a5aea80$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu> > When the command 'startx' is run, 3 bash wins are launched automatically, > any way to customize this number? > Thanks > From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Wed Jan 16 11:37:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:37:00 -0000 Subject: adjust the number of bash windows opened In-Reply-To: <014d01c19ec5$7f4d68d0$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu> References: <014d01c19ec5$7f4d68d0$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu> Message-ID: <20020116193744.GA28881@redhat.com> Wrong mailing list. Redirected to the correct mailing list. On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 02:39:19PM -0500, hongxun lee wrote: >When the command 'startx' is run, 3 bash wins are launched automatically, >any way to customize this number? >Thanks > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From briangenisio@yahoo.com Wed Jan 16 11:42:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:42:00 -0000 Subject: adjust the number of bash windows opened In-Reply-To: <015301c19ec5$9a5aea80$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu> Message-ID: <20020116194244.36046.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com> Simply edit the startx script to do what you want. This is mentioned in the user manual. Brian --- hongxun lee wrote: > > When the command 'startx' is run, 3 bash wins are launched automatically, > > any way to customize this number? > > Thanks > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From dunkel@ScienceSoft.net Wed Jan 16 17:23:00 2002 From: dunkel@ScienceSoft.net (Reinhard Dunkel) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:23:00 -0000 Subject: Position of initial XWin window on the screen? Message-ID: <3C4627A5.6DDAE610@ScienceSoft.net> My XWin.exe server window is smaller than my PC screen. Using its [-screen screen_number width height ...] command line option, I can set its window size. Is there a command line option to set where this initial server window will appear on the Windows desktop? ThanX, Reinhard From cgf@redhat.com Wed Jan 16 20:03:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:03:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla Message-ID: <20020117040333.GA5586@redhat.com> Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla? Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project Overview is showing up under the "left bar". Btw, I was wondering if you would mind putting a big flashing "Send Questions Here!" somewhere at the top of the site. We got three messages today at cygwin@cygwin.com and I got one at postmaster@cygwin.com. This came after I revamped the main cygwin lists.html page to make it clear that people should think carefully before posting, of course. Anyway, anything you can do to redirect the clueless will be appreciated. cgf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Jan 16 22:35:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:35:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla References: <20020117040333.GA5586@redhat.com> Message-ID: <190a01c19f20$e62db6d0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> === ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla > Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla? > Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project > Overview is showing up under the "left bar". It fails validation - usually a sign of some HTML oddity somewhere (just click on the HTML4 icon). Rob From santhi.guntupalli@digital.com Thu Jan 17 05:12:00 2002 From: santhi.guntupalli@digital.com (Guntupalli, Santhi) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:12:00 -0000 Subject: problem - system api on winnt Message-ID: <177E503C4DA3D311BC9D0008C791C30607253C75@diexch01.xko.dec.com> > Hi, > I installed Cygwin Dll 1.3.6. I am working on Win NT. > I built the sources in cygwin sucessfully. > I have to use this application executable on some other win nt > system which does not have cygwin. > > When i run my application from winnt promt it is returning for > system api return code 127. > I copied only cygwin1.dll to that system. > This is sample program. > Implementation of copy command. > > sample.cpp: > > int main() > { > > int exit_code=::system("cp test.cpp test1.cpp"); > cout< } > > I built the sample.cpp in cygwin. i got the executable. when run > executable from cygwin prompt system api is executing the command > properly and returns exit_code as 0. > > When i copy the same executable to some other machine which does not > have cygwin and i run it from winnt cmd promt > > system api is returning error code as 127. It is not executing > system api. > cygwin1.dll is in path. > Not only cp command, it is returning same error code for all other > commands. > > What could be the problem. i need to copy any other cygwin dlls to > my application? > > Thanks in advance. > > - Santhi > > > From briangenisio@yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 05:22:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:22:00 -0000 Subject: problem - system api on winnt In-Reply-To: <177E503C4DA3D311BC9D0008C791C30607253C75@diexch01.xko.dec.com> Message-ID: <20020117132158.29370.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Wrong Group. I have forwarded your question to cygwin@cygwin.com. This group is for XFree related questions. I did not have any problems compiling your example code in Win2K. (I linked against stdc++) Hopefully they can help you. Brian --- "Guntupalli, Santhi" wrote: > > > Hi, > > I installed Cygwin Dll 1.3.6. I am working on Win NT. > > I built the sources in cygwin sucessfully. > > I have to use this application executable on some other win nt > > system which does not have cygwin. > > > > When i run my application from winnt promt it is returning for > > system api return code 127. > > I copied only cygwin1.dll to that system. > > This is sample program. > > Implementation of copy command. > > > > sample.cpp: > > > > int main() > > { > > > > int exit_code=::system("cp test.cpp test1.cpp"); > > cout< > } > > > > I built the sample.cpp in cygwin. i got the executable. when run > > executable from cygwin prompt system api is executing the command > > properly and returns exit_code as 0. > > > > When i copy the same executable to some other machine which does not > > have cygwin and i run it from winnt cmd promt > > > > system api is returning error code as 127. It is not executing > > system api. > > cygwin1.dll is in path. > > Not only cp command, it is returning same error code for all other > > commands. > > > > What could be the problem. i need to copy any other cygwin dlls to > > my application? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > - Santhi > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jan 17 05:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:35:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla Message-ID: > > Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla? > > Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project > > Overview is showing up under the "left bar". > > It fails validation - usually a sign of some HTML oddity somewhere (just > click on the HTML4 icon). > > Rob Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did not affect the rendering of the page. I'm kind of surprised that there were errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting. I found a few more trivial errors scattered around the site and fixed them as well. The problem with Mozilla rendering is that the site looks fine on a 1024x768 screen with Mozilla maximized. If you then restore Mozilla and start shrinking the window you'll notice that Mozilla decides, at some point, to move the main body of the web page starting with "Project Overview" to beneath the left menu bar. Is that a kosher move on Mozilla's part? I have no idea. All I know is that you can create the smallest window possible in IE and it never takes the liberty of moving the page's main body. I've already made lots of changes to get the page to look as well as it does in Mozilla... I'm going to wait for 1.0 before I make more drastic Mozilla-specific changes. Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath... I have been watching Mozilla since March 2000, when 1.0 was going to be released, "any day now". :) Harold From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Thu Jan 17 05:36:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: problem - system api on winnt In-Reply-To: <20020117132158.29370.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> References: <177E503C4DA3D311BC9D0008C791C30607253C75@diexch01.xko.dec.com> <20020117132158.29370.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020117143619.Q2015@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 05:21:58AM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > Wrong Group. I have forwarded your question to cygwin@cygwin.com. This group Unecessarily. He already cross posted to both groups :-( Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Jan 17 05:37:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:37:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla References: Message-ID: <01c301c19f5b$c3cdf6a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" > I'm kind of surprised that there were > errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting. Cool. I was surprised too, but I didn't look further than the surface of the issue. > I've already made lots of changes to get the page to look as well as it does > in Mozilla... I'm going to wait for 1.0 before I make more drastic > Mozilla-specific changes. Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath... I have > been watching Mozilla since March 2000, when 1.0 was going to be released, > "any day now". :) Lol. And then some more. Rob From paul@msunix.co.uk Thu Jan 17 09:49:00 2002 From: paul@msunix.co.uk (paul@msunix.co.uk) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:49:00 -0000 Subject: crypt() Message-ID: <001001c19f7f$4d422cd0$7f6638d4@seraphina> > hiya, > > ive included #include > > and am using crypt() - why can't i compile? - libcrypt.a is in /usr/lib > > gcc -lcrypt file.c -o file > > unresolved linker error (crypt undefined?) > > thanks. > > paul@uk From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Jan 17 11:14:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:14:00 -0000 Subject: crypt() In-Reply-To: <001001c19f7f$4d422cd0$7f6638d4@seraphina> References: <001001c19f7f$4d422cd0$7f6638d4@seraphina> Message-ID: The wrong order, it should be gcc -o file file.c -lcrypt Basically, the library switch should be after the usage of functions in it.. /Andy | > | > gcc -lcrypt file.c -o file | > | > unresolved linker error (crypt undefined?) -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jan 17 12:33:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:33:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c19f95$e84983c0$7ca907d5@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:35 PM > To: cygx > Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla > > > > > Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla? > > > Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project > > > Overview is showing up under the "left bar". > > > > It fails validation - usually a sign of some HTML oddity somewhere (just > > click on the HTML4 icon). > > > > Rob > > Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did not > affect the rendering of the page. I'm kind of surprised that there were > errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting. ^^^^^^^^^ Is this an open source tool ? Ralf From andrewmayer@yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 18:13:00 2002 From: andrewmayer@yahoo.com (Dr. Andrew Mayer) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:13:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Xterm font changing... Message-ID: <001001c19fc5$a84c4930$bf5667d8@leverage> -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Andrew Mayer [mailto:mayer@eecs.berkeley.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:12 PM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Xterm font changing... I'm having some trouble dynamically changing fonts inside an xterm (with the ctrl/rt-mouse menu). I was able to alter that menu by hand-installing an app-default file for xterm (N.B. this seems not to be included In the distribution), but when I select alternate fonts, no action appears to be taken. Certainly the fonts do not change. However, when I run xfontsel I can select an alternate font and then successfully choose it via the "selection" menu entry. So, only "selection" and default" appear to work.."huge", "large", etc. appear not to. But those fonts do exist.if I create those exact fonts in xfontsel, or if I copy valid xfontsel strings into my app-defaults file, I get no improvement in behavior. I'm sure someone else has encountered and solved this, but after hours of searching here and google I've had no luck in developing a set of text keys to pinpoint a solution. Thanks in advance, Andrew _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jan 17 20:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:26:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla Message-ID: > > Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did not > > affect the rendering of the page. I'm kind of surprised that there were > > errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting. > ^^^^^^^^^ > Is this an open source tool ? > > Ralf Basically. The HTML document type definition is open source, it can be downloaded from http://w3c.org/. Checking a document against a given type definition is usually done with the open source tool NSGMLS: http://www.jclark.com/sp/nsgmls.htm. The HTML Validator provided by http://w3c.org/ is simply a web interface to a program that compares a document with the dtd. I'm not sure if the actual validator front-end is open source, but that doesn't really matter. The address of the W3C HTML Validator is: http://validator.w3.org/ Does that clear things up? Harold From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Fri Jan 18 03:41:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003501c1a014$aa7307e0$7ca907d5@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:27 AM > To: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla > > > > > Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did > not > > > affect the rendering of the page. I'm kind of surprised that there were > > > errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting. > > ^^^^^^^^^ > > Is this an open source tool ? > > > > Ralf > > Basically. The HTML document type definition is open source, it can be > downloaded from http://w3c.org/. > > Checking a document against a given type definition is usually done with the > open source tool NSGMLS: http://www.jclark.com/sp/nsgmls.htm. > > The HTML Validator provided by http://w3c.org/ is simply a web interface to > a program that compares a document with the dtd. I'm not sure if the actual > validator front-end is open source, but that doesn't really matter. > > The address of the W3C HTML Validator is: > http://validator.w3.org/ > > Does that clear things up? > Yes Thanks > Harold > > From rouilj@cs.umb.edu Fri Jan 18 16:45:00 2002 From: rouilj@cs.umb.edu (John P. Rouillard) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:45:00 -0000 Subject: Using XRunner with cygwin-xfree XFree86 - 4.1.99.1 Message-ID: <200201190045.TAA01381@cs.umb.edu> Hello all: I hope somebody has some ideas about this because it is driving me batty. We are using XRunner to automate testing of some of our apps. Using XFree-86 version 4 on linux with the RECORD and XTEST extentions works fine. I am able to map the gui and identify the items, send mouse presses and keystrokes. However using the cygwin version fails. I can't map the gui and find the widgets in the tree. So XRunner kind of throws up its hands. What is funny is that XRunner usually reportswhen the needed extentions aren't present. So my guess is that the extentions are present but not operating properly somehow. I have compared the /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy files, the server startup command arguments. I have looked for issues with XRunner on the web. I have also looked at docs on the record and xtest extentions to see if I get any bright ideas. Does anybody have any programs working that use the XTEST and RECORD extentions of XFree86-cygwin? Here is my xdpyinfo in case anybody is interested. name of display: :0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: The XFree86 Project, Inc vendor release number: 40199001 XFree86 version: 4.1.99.1 maximum request size: 4194300 bytes motion buffer size: 256 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order: LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 7 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32 depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 8, maximum 255 focus: PointerRoot number of extensions: 20 BIG-REQUESTS DOUBLE-BUFFER Extended-Visual-Information FontCache GLX LBX MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RECORD RENDER SECURITY SGI-GLX SHAPE SYNC TOG-CUP XC-APPGROUP XC-MISC XFree86-Bigfont XKEYBOARD XTEST XVideo default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: dimensions: 1018x742 pixels (345x251 millimeters) resolution: 75x75 dots per inch depths (7): 16, 1, 4, 8, 15, 24, 32 root window id: 0x2e depth of root window: 16 planes number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap: 0x20 default number of colormap cells: 64 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 65535 options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO largest cursor: 1018x742 current input event mask: 0xd0001d KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask ButtonReleaseMask EnterWindowMask SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask ColormapChangeMask number of visuals: 2 default visual id: 0x22 visual: visual id: 0x22 class: TrueColor depth: 16 planes available colormap entries: 64 per subfield red, green, blue masks: 0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f significant bits in color specification: 6 bits visual: visual id: 0x23 class: TrueColor depth: 16 planes available colormap entries: 64 per subfield red, green, blue masks: 0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f significant bits in color specification: 6 bits -- rouilj John Rouillard =============================================================================== My employers don't acknowledge my existence much less my opinions. 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In Cygwin, I startx, fvwm2 starts, my menu items for ssh -X are there, but when I execute them, they just don't work. I watch the cygwin term I started X from for errors, there are none, the Taskbar button for the cygwin terminal however indicates "xauth", and the remote app does not start up in my X11 session. All my ssh keys are correctly configured, ssh -X works when executed from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu. I use ssh -X as a replacement for rsh to start remote X11 apps. Am I missing something? Please reply direct as I'm not on the list, thanks. From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Sun Jan 20 11:09:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:09:00 -0000 Subject: ssh X11 Forwarding from menu in window manager In-Reply-To: <3C4AE4C6.41FD521E@ardynet.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, R Dicaire wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to get ssh X11 forwarding working via a menu item in > a window manager (fvwm2) under X11 Cygwin. For the record, it works fine > under X11 Linux/blackbox. > In Cygwin, I startx, fvwm2 starts, my menu items for ssh -X are there, > but when I execute them, they just don't work. I watch the cygwin term I > started X from for errors, there are none, the Taskbar button for the > cygwin terminal however indicates "xauth", and the remote app does not > start up in my X11 session. > All my ssh keys are correctly configured, This is probably irrelevant. X11 forwarding is generally not related to how you authenticated. > ssh -X works when executed > from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu. > > I use ssh -X as a replacement for rsh to start remote X11 apps. > > Am I missing something? Try running this command from an xterm and not from a menu item (at least until you get it working), because this way you can immediately see any error messages. First thing you should do is to use the "-v" (verbose) option of ssh to get more information. Maybe the remote server does not allow X11 forwarding? Maybe you need to generate an initial xauthority token in your startx script. My .xinitrc currently includes: export DISPLAY=localhost:0 xauth generate $DISPLAY xhost - ('xhost -' is not mandatory, but can help prevent some neighbours from sniffing your dipplay) There are probably better ways of doing this (suggestions anybody?), but it currently works for me. BTW: if you always use X11 forwarding (or always use it with some hosts) consider setting in your config file: Host = * ForwardX11 = yes or: Host = somehost ForwardX11 = yes -- Tzafrir Cohen /"\ mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ From rdicaire@ardynet.com Sun Jan 20 16:22:00 2002 From: rdicaire@ardynet.com (R Dicaire) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:22:00 -0000 Subject: ssh X11 Forwarding from menu in window manager References: Message-ID: <3C4AFB5D.D7B1AC68@ardynet.com> Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Tzafrir, thanks for responding. > > All my ssh keys are correctly configured, > > This is probably irrelevant. X11 forwarding is generally not related to > how you authenticated. Not sure what you mean here. In linux, I use ssh-agent, every terminal and xterm I log into sources a file at login that sets two ssh variables so I dont have to keep typing the passphrase for authentication to a remote host. Passwordless access. As I'd previously mentioned, this setup works fine in X11 under linux. I have this setup in Cygwin as well, and it works fine, except for executing ssh -X from window manager menu items. > > ssh -X works when executed > > from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu. > Try running this command from an xterm and not from a menu item (at least > until you get it working), because this way you can immediately see any > error messages. As stated above, this works from an xterm. > First thing you should do is to use the "-v" (verbose) option of ssh to > get more information. > Maybe the remote server does not allow X11 forwarding? Since this works under Linux, its not a server issue. > Maybe you need to generate an initial xauthority token in your startx > script. My .xinitrc currently includes: > > export DISPLAY=localhost:0 > xauth generate $DISPLAY > xhost - I tried adding this to .xinitrc, it didn't work. Same behaviour as before. > BTW: if you always use X11 forwarding (or always use it with some hosts) > consider setting in your config file: My servers and clients configurations are fine. Everything works fine under the various *nix platforms I run, just not under X11 Cygwin. I even tried sourcing the file that contains the two ssh vars for ssh-agent functionality from .xinitrc, no go. Neither did it work when I tried sourcing it as part of the window manager menu item itself. Under Linux, when one starts X, it looks like the shells environment is inherited by X, I'm thinking when X is started in Cygwin, such is not the case? From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Sun Jan 20 17:05:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:05:00 -0000 Subject: ssh X11 Forwarding from menu in window manager In-Reply-To: <3C4AFB5D.D7B1AC68@ardynet.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, R Dicaire wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Tzafrir, thanks for responding. > > > > All my ssh keys are correctly configured, > > > > This is probably irrelevant. X11 forwarding is generally not related to > > how you authenticated. > > Not sure what you mean here. In linux, I use ssh-agent, every terminal > and xterm I log into sources a file at login that sets two ssh variables > so I dont have to keep typing the passphrase for authentication to a > remote host. Passwordless access. As I'd previously mentioned, this > setup works fine in X11 under linux. I have this setup in Cygwin as > well, and it works fine, > except for executing ssh -X from window manager menu items. ssh-agent does something different: [ here follows a lengthy explanation of what ssh-agent does. Feel free to skip this if this doesn't interest you ] ssh supports authentication using private-key/public-key pairs. The idea is that only the client needs to know the private key (which is secret) and the server only needs to know the public key (which is not secret). So you create a key pair (ssh-keygen), make the private key (say, id_dsa) available to the client, and add the public key (id_dsa.pub in this case) to the list of "authorized keys" of the server. When a client tries to connect to the server and they decide to try public key authentication, the server encrypts a certain message with the public key, sends it to the client, and the client should be able to decrypt that message. So far, no need to type a password and no need for ssh-agent. This is fine if the client sits in your private computer at home, and you know that nobody else has access there. But what if other people have access to that directory? This can be the administrator of the system (if you only have a regular account there) or someone who happens to use your account for 5 minutes. Those people can get your private key, and from now on, present themselves as you. To prevent this, the private key can be saved localy in an encrypted for. This will require you to know a certain password ("passphrase") just to be able to access the private key. But this means that you have to type a passphrase again for each connection. It does not travel the wires to the other side, but still, we don't want to keep typing the same password. ssh-agent is supposed to save you some typing. It saves (only in memory, and in a relatively secure way) decrypted private keys. Whenever you need to connect to a remote host, you ask the ssh-agent to do the public keys authentication for you. But all of this is totally unrelated to X11 forwarding. X11 forwarding takes place after the authentication has been established, in the final stages of setting a connection. It creates a socket on the server side that acts as an X server, and sets the client processes to use this "server" (by setting DISPLAY and adding an appropriate xauth key). Any connection to that dummy X server is transfered over the ssh connection to the original X server. > > > > ssh -X works when executed > > > from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu. Sorry, I miss-read your message. Try instead to run (from the menu): xterm -e ssh -X What happens now? BTW: do you run 'ssh -X ' ? Just 'ssh -X' is probably pointless if it is not already in a terminal (I'm not sure exactly what it is supopsed to do) > > > First thing you should do is to use the "-v" (verbose) option of ssh to > > get more information. > > Maybe the remote server does not allow X11 forwarding? > > Since this works under Linux, its not a server issue. Still: have you tried using '-v'? It can provide you with some useful hints. > > > Maybe you need to generate an initial xauthority token in your startx > > script. My .xinitrc currently includes: > > > > export DISPLAY=localhost:0 > > xauth generate $DISPLAY > > xhost - > > I tried adding this to .xinitrc, it didn't work. Same behaviour as > before. > > > BTW: if you always use X11 forwarding (or always use it with some hosts) > > consider setting in your config file: This will only make the '-X' switch unnecessary. see ssh (1). > > My servers and clients configurations are fine. Everything works fine > under the various *nix platforms I run, just not under X11 Cygwin. > > I even tried sourcing the file that contains the two ssh vars for > ssh-agent functionality from .xinitrc, no go. Neither did it work when I > tried sourcing it as part of the window manager menu item itself. > > Under Linux, when one starts X, it looks like the shells environment is > inherited by X, I'm thinking when X is started in Cygwin, such is not > the case? What do you mean? It inherits the environment of the shell that created it (except some vars that were overriden) One difference between a standard unix environment and cygwin is that in a standard unix environment (at least in linux) the X server has to run with special priviliges, and therefore its invocation has to be wrapped with a special wrapper program (xinit, run from startx), and later the server executes one client session with normal user privileges (/etc/X11/Xsession or xinitrc or whatever). On cygwin you are already (usually) a cygwin super-user, things are generally a bit less complecated on cygwin. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jan 20 20:08:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:08:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 Message-ID: <20020121002245.F2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk> XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on ftp.xfree86.org now. Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86 approach? or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe mechanism ? Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jan 20 22:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:51:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 Message-ID: > XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on > ftp.xfree86.org now. > > Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86 approach? > or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe > mechanism ? > > Alan. Alan, Well, we have to make a standard XFree86-style distribution for now, regardless of the state of anyone working on using setup.exe to install Cygwin/XFree86. See, the documentation won't get re-written over night, so we'll be providing a standard XFree86 distribution until a setup.exe-based distribution is working and documented. That's pretty logical right? I'm pulling the xf-4_2-branch tree right now. I might build a distribution within a couple days. Harold From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sun Jan 20 23:01:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:01:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 References: <20020121002245.F2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <036901c1a231$010cae30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> === ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 > XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on > ftp.xfree86.org now. > > Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86 approach? > or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe > mechanism ? All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to * Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the binaries (*) * Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to foo.default or similar. * If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh * Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/ * Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has been missed. (*) via a little trickery. Rob From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Sun Jan 20 23:08:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:08:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 In-Reply-To: <036901c1a231$010cae30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Robert Collins wrote: > > All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based > distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to > * Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the > binaries (*) > * Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to > foo.default or similar. > * If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create > desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh But examine them first, and decide if they can't be run earlier (while creating the package). A complecated post-install script calls for troubles. > * Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/ > * Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has > been missed. > > (*) via a little trickery. The X server needs to be in a seperate binary package (as it is likely to change). The libraries should be in a seperate package, as I might be using them to run programs with a different X server. Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages, separate documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install script gives youon what to install). I hope someone cares enough to take this task. Installing this bunch of tarballs with the strange install script (that required me write permission to the directory of the tarballs, for instance) proved to be a real pain. And I'm a bit afraid of upgrading it... -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir From cgf@redhat.com Sun Jan 20 23:20:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:20:00 -0000 Subject: xfree86 4.2.0 In-Reply-To: References: <036901c1a231$010cae30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20020121070130.GA12251@redhat.com> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:51:52AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Robert Collins wrote: > >> >> All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based >> distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to >> * Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the >> binaries (*) >> * Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to >> foo.default or similar. >> * If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create >> desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh > >But examine them first, and decide if they can't be run earlier (while >creating the package). A complecated post-install script calls for >troubles. > >> * Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/ >> * Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has >> been missed. >> >> (*) via a little trickery. > >The X server needs to be in a seperate binary package (as it is likely to >change). The libraries should be in a seperate package, as I might be >using them to run programs with a different X server. > >Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages, separate >documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install >script gives youon what to install). > >I hope someone cares enough to take this task. Installing this bunch of >tarballs with the strange install script (that required me write >permission to the directory of the tarballs, for instance) proved to be a >real pain. And I'm a bit afraid of upgrading it... Why not use the current RPM layout? This is what I have on my system right now: XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.3-1 XFree86-doc-4.0.2-0.2 XFree86-Xnest-4.0.3-1 XFree86-4.0.3-1 XFree86-libs-4.0.3-1 XFree86-xf86cfg-4.0.3-1 XFree86-devel-4.0.3-1 XFree86-tools-4.0.2-0.2 XFree86-xfs-4.0.3-1 cgf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Jan 21 00:45:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:45:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 References: Message-ID: <043201c1a249$fbe20310$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> === ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tzafrir Cohen" > Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages, separate > documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install > script gives youon what to install). I'm talking about getting *something* up easily and quickly. It can of course change as time goes by. Harolds point about new documentation being required is very important - and IMO minimising the effort needed to setup (no pun intended) the new packages will free up time for doco work, thus hastening the transition. Rob From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Mon Jan 21 01:12:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:12:00 -0000 Subject: xfree86 4.2.0 In-Reply-To: <20020121070130.GA12251@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:51:52AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > >On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Robert Collins wrote: > > > >> > >> All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based > >> distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to > >> * Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the > >> binaries (*) > >> * Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to > >> foo.default or similar. > >> * If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create > >> desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh > > > >But examine them first, and decide if they can't be run earlier (while > >creating the package). A complecated post-install script calls for > >troubles. > > > >> * Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/ > >> * Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has > >> been missed. > >> > >> (*) via a little trickery. > > > >The X server needs to be in a seperate binary package (as it is likely to > >change). The libraries should be in a seperate package, as I might be > >using them to run programs with a different X server. > > > >Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages, separate > >documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install > >script gives youon what to install). > > > >I hope someone cares enough to take this task. Installing this bunch of > >tarballs with the strange install script (that required me write > >permission to the directory of the tarballs, for instance) proved to be a > >real pain. And I'm a bit afraid of upgrading it... > > Why not use the current RPM layout? This is what I have on my system right now: > > XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.3-1 > XFree86-doc-4.0.2-0.2 > XFree86-Xnest-4.0.3-1 > XFree86-4.0.3-1 > XFree86-libs-4.0.3-1 > XFree86-xf86cfg-4.0.3-1 > XFree86-devel-4.0.3-1 > XFree86-tools-4.0.2-0.2 > XFree86-xfs-4.0.3-1 Fonts are also in a seperate package, IIRC. Anyway, these are the packages from Mandrake 8.1: XFree86-100dpi-fonts XFree86 XFree86-75dpi-fonts XFree86-cyrillic-fonts XFree86-devel XFree86-doc XFree86-glide-module XFree86-libs XFree86-server XFree86-static-libs XFree86-xfs XFree86-Xnest XFree86-Xvfb (version is 4.1.0-17mdk) But the most important is to separate the X server to another package from the X clients. This will enable people to easily test a new X server. Other parts of the package are quite mature. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir From alanh@xfree86.org Mon Jan 21 06:33:00 2002 From: alanh@xfree86.org (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 06:33:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020121084543.H2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:04:45PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: > > XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on > > ftp.xfree86.org now. > > > > Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86 approach? > > or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe > > mechanism ? > > > > Alan. > > Alan, > > Well, we have to make a standard XFree86-style distribution for now, > regardless of the state of anyone working on using setup.exe to install > Cygwin/XFree86. See, the documentation won't get re-written over night, so > we'll be providing a standard XFree86 distribution until a setup.exe-based > distribution is working and documented. > > That's pretty logical right? > Sure. > I'm pulling the xf-4_2-branch tree right now. I might build a distribution > within a couple days. > I'll do it today and get it up on ftp.xfree86.org. If anyone else can pull it across to the cygwin machine that'd be good. Alan. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jan 21 07:39:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:39:00 -0000 Subject: xfree86 4.2.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > XFree86-100dpi-fonts > XFree86 > XFree86-75dpi-fonts > XFree86-cyrillic-fonts > XFree86-devel > XFree86-doc > XFree86-glide-module > XFree86-libs > XFree86-server > XFree86-static-libs > XFree86-xfs > XFree86-Xnest > XFree86-Xvfb looks good to me > But the most important is to separate the X server to another package from > The X clients. this is of course the preferred way. 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If anyone else can > pull it across to the cygwin machine that'd be good. > They're up on ftp.xfree86.org:/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/binaries/Cygwin If anyone can test them beside me - that'd be good (mirrors should be updated soon). Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 22 09:31:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:31:00 -0000 Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port In-Reply-To: <20020121002052.E2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote: > Hi Alexander, > > Thanks for the patch. Is there any chance of bouncing this off the > cygwin-xfree list first to get some feedback before we commit.... ? > of course, I announced a binary with this patch about one month ago and got no negative response. (Actually I got no response, but the binary was downloaded about 30 times in that month) bye ago > > Hi, > > > > The attached patch allows the cygwin port of the xserver to use the > > XF86Config configfile. The support for the configfile is not complete > > but the keyboard and files section (the most needed ones for the cygwin > > port) are fully supported. > > > > The patch uses the parser from hw/xfree86/parser and the two 4 files > > implement functions similar to those from the xfree86 xserver. > > > > Changelog for programs/Xserver: > > 2002-01-20 Alexander Gottwald > > > > *Imakefile: Add hw/xfree86/parser to SUBDIRS for cygwin port > > > > Changelog for programs/Xserver/hw/xwin > > 2002-01-20 Alexander Gottwald > > > > *Imakefile: Add winconfig.c and winmsg.c to SOURCES. > > Add winconfig.o and winmsg.o to OBJS. > > *InitOutput.c: include winconfig.h. > > Add macros for commandline argument processing. > > Add commandline options -logfile, -xf86config and -keyboard. > > Add call winReadConfigfile. > > *winkeybd.c: include winconfig.h and XKBsrv.h. > > Use configuration from configfile. > > *winconfig.c, winconfig.h: Handling of option values from configfile. > > *winmsg.c, winmsg.h: Error and log output functions. > > -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 22 18:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:30:00 -0000 Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port Message-ID: > of course, I announced a binary with this patch about one month ago and > got no negative response. (Actually I got no response, but the binary was > downloaded about 30 times in that month) > > bye > ago The code looks fine to me, but, I don't want the patch committed until some effort is made to follow the formatting of the other files in hw/xwin. Also, I've got a few problems with the Imakefile changes, as well as with the InitOutput.c changes. # # Coding style complaints - winkeybd.c, winconfig.c, winmsg.c # Specifically, I'd like each '{' and '}' to be on their own lines, e.g.: } else { should be } else { etc. I could count hundreds of instances of the above example in winconfig.c; however, there are whole blocks of your code that do put each '{}' on their own lines, so I'd just like to see the nonconforming lines fixed. Function types are not always on the line above the function name, and the space between the function name and the opening '(' is missing. (see winmsg.c). Furthermore, I'd like you to run each file through Emacs, selecting all text, then run "C->Indent Line or Region"; this will get the parameter lists lined up correctly, etc. # # Imakefile complaints # I don't think that your changes to programs/Xserver/Imakefile are correct. Platform-specific changes to the SUBDIRS list should be avoided at all costs. Try to find some other way to add XWINPARSEDIR to the list of directories to be compiled. # # InitOutput.c # You've got #define macro definitions on line 247 or so, when they should be up at the top of the file. Overall, good work on a tough feature. Just clean up the files so that I don't have to use my time doing it myself. Thanks, Harold From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jan 23 04:33:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:33:00 -0000 Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > The code looks fine to me, but, I don't want the patch committed until some > effort is made to follow the formatting of the other files in hw/xwin. > Also, I've got a few problems with the Imakefile changes, as well as with > the InitOutput.c changes. Do you have a "styleguide"? Or maybe just the indent settings? > # > # Coding style complaints - winkeybd.c, winconfig.c, winmsg.c > # [snip] > I could count hundreds of instances of the above example in winconfig.c; > however, there are whole blocks of your code that do put each '{}' on their > own lines, so I'd just like to see the nonconforming lines fixed. took that from hw/xfree86/common :) > Function types are not always on the line above the function name, and the > space between the function name and the opening '(' is missing. (see > winmsg.c). > > Furthermore, I'd like you to run each file through Emacs, selecting all > text, then run "C->Indent Line or Region"; this will get the parameter lists > lined up correctly, etc. > Ok, I think ident can fix this easily > # Imakefile complaints > > I don't think that your changes to programs/Xserver/Imakefile are correct. > Platform-specific changes to the SUBDIRS list should be avoided at all > costs. Try to find some other way to add XWINPARSEDIR to the list of > directories to be compiled. I followed the example of the other platforms :) > # InitOutput.c > > You've got #define macro definitions on line 247 or so, when they should be > up at the top of the file. > I choosed to place it near the function, since it's only used there and does imo belong to the function bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jan 23 05:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:43:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip comment In-Reply-To: <3CDC98910B38EA49AB404A73ACAF70FF18D87C@exmbx03sj.global.cadence.com> Message-ID: Josh, Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using separate threads with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix anything, and they usually just complicate things". However, I started thinking about the problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this circumstance. The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as soon as a client (xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be the owner of the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when the selection is updated. If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a selection update, then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows clipboard. The end result would be that you would select data in an X client, but that data would not be available in Windows. Actually, the first time that you select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip would receive notification upon losing ownership of XA_PRIMARY), however, subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus preventing the subsequent selections from being available in Windows. I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads. Threads make xwinclip a little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem described above. That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to be notified when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it. Only then will xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection. It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come across it. I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a suggestion :) Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: xwinclip comment > > > Hi, Harold > > Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am > (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to > hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X > app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm, the highlight > vanishes after I let go of the mouse button. > Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or > is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops (one for X > and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate threads, in > case of the latter... > > --Josh From briangenisio@yahoo.com Wed Jan 23 05:56:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:56:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip comment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020123123347.88735.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I havent seen the code in a while, but I assume that you you use a standard X event loop... while(!done) { wait_for_events() if(is_property_notify) read_and_handle_property() send_event_to_x() } Might you, instead, change this from event driven to polling? while(!done) { read_property() if(new_property != known_property) copy_property() sleep } This way, you dont need to register for events on the property. You could sleep for 250 ms for instance, which, in worst case, is probably long enough. (warning : usleep() is not thread safe, so you could probably use signals to handle a timeout). OR, you could throw this into xt, and use the timout capability, but that seems like too much for too little. Also, dont forget to use semaphores when copying (and reading from the windows thread) the known_property. I hope this helps in the brainstorming process, at least, Brian --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Josh, > > Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using separate threads > with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix anything, and they > usually just complicate things". However, I started thinking about the > problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this > circumstance. > > The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as soon as a client > (xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be the owner of > the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when the selection > is updated. If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a selection update, > then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows clipboard. > The end result would be that you would select data in an X client, but that > data would not be available in Windows. Actually, the first time that you > select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip > would receive notification upon losing ownership of XA_PRIMARY), however, > subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or > another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus preventing > the subsequent selections from being available in Windows. > > I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads. Threads make xwinclip a > little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem > described above. That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to be notified > when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses > ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it. Only then will > xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection. > > It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come > across it. I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a > suggestion :) > > Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior, > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM > > To: huntharo@msu.edu > > Subject: xwinclip comment > > > > > > Hi, Harold > > > > Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am > > (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to > > hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X > > app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm, the highlight > > vanishes after I let go of the mouse button. > > Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or > > is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops (one for X > > and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate threads, in > > case of the latter... > > > > --Josh > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jan 23 06:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:27:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip comment In-Reply-To: <20020123123347.88735.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think it goes without saying that the primary goal is to avoid all polling solutions until any other feasible solution has been ruled out. We're still in the stages of ruling out other possibilities. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:34 AM > To: Harold Hunt; Josh Baudhuin > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: xwinclip comment > > > Well, I havent seen the code in a while, but I assume that you you use a > standard X event loop... > > while(!done) > { > wait_for_events() > if(is_property_notify) > read_and_handle_property() > send_event_to_x() > } > > Might you, instead, change this from event driven to polling? > > while(!done) > { > read_property() > if(new_property != known_property) > copy_property() > sleep > } > > This way, you dont need to register for events on the property. > > You could sleep for 250 ms for instance, which, in worst case, is > probably long > enough. (warning : usleep() is not thread safe, so you could probably use > signals to handle a timeout). OR, you could throw this into xt, > and use the > timout capability, but that seems like too much for too little. > Also, dont > forget to use semaphores when copying (and reading from the > windows thread) the > known_property. > > > I hope this helps in the brainstorming process, at least, > Brian > > > > --- Harold Hunt wrote: > > Josh, > > > > Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using > separate threads > > with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix > anything, and they > > usually just complicate things". However, I started thinking about the > > problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this > > circumstance. > > > > The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as > soon as a client > > (xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be > the owner of > > the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when > the selection > > is updated. If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a > selection update, > > then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows > clipboard. > > The end result would be that you would select data in an X > client, but that > > data would not be available in Windows. Actually, the first > time that you > > select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip > > would receive notification upon losing ownership of > XA_PRIMARY), however, > > subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or > > another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus > preventing > > the subsequent selections from being available in Windows. > > > > I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads. Threads make > xwinclip a > > little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem > > described above. That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to > be notified > > when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses > > ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it. > Only then will > > xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection. > > > > It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come > > across it. I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a > > suggestion :) > > > > Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior, > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM > > > To: huntharo@msu.edu > > > Subject: xwinclip comment > > > > > > > > > Hi, Harold > > > > > > Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am > > > (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to > > > hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X > > > app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm, > the highlight > > > vanishes after I let go of the mouse button. > > > Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or > > > is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops > (one for X > > > and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate > threads, in > > > case of the latter... > > > > > > --Josh > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From briangenisio@yahoo.com Wed Jan 23 10:02:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:02:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip comment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020123135606.17362.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah, my comment was meant more for brainstorming, than a "best" solution... Is the lastest xwinclip source (the one with threads) available? I've got some pretty good X programmers at my office (including myself). I might be able to look at it, and talk it over with my peeps :) Brian --- Harold Hunt wrote: > I think it goes without saying that the primary goal is to avoid all polling > solutions until any other feasible solution has been ruled out. We're still > in the stages of ruling out other possibilities. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:34 AM > > To: Harold Hunt; Josh Baudhuin > > Cc: cygx > > Subject: RE: xwinclip comment > > > > > > Well, I havent seen the code in a while, but I assume that you you use a > > standard X event loop... > > > > while(!done) > > { > > wait_for_events() > > if(is_property_notify) > > read_and_handle_property() > > send_event_to_x() > > } > > > > Might you, instead, change this from event driven to polling? > > > > while(!done) > > { > > read_property() > > if(new_property != known_property) > > copy_property() > > sleep > > } > > > > This way, you dont need to register for events on the property. > > > > You could sleep for 250 ms for instance, which, in worst case, is > > probably long > > enough. (warning : usleep() is not thread safe, so you could probably use > > signals to handle a timeout). OR, you could throw this into xt, > > and use the > > timout capability, but that seems like too much for too little. > > Also, dont > > forget to use semaphores when copying (and reading from the > > windows thread) the > > known_property. > > > > > > I hope this helps in the brainstorming process, at least, > > Brian > > > > > > > > --- Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Josh, > > > > > > Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using > > separate threads > > > with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix > > anything, and they > > > usually just complicate things". However, I started thinking about the > > > problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this > > > circumstance. > > > > > > The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as > > soon as a client > > > (xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be > > the owner of > > > the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when > > the selection > > > is updated. If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a > > selection update, > > > then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows > > clipboard. > > > The end result would be that you would select data in an X > > client, but that > > > data would not be available in Windows. Actually, the first > > time that you > > > select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip > > > would receive notification upon losing ownership of > > XA_PRIMARY), however, > > > subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or > > > another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus > > preventing > > > the subsequent selections from being available in Windows. > > > > > > I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads. Threads make > > xwinclip a > > > little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem > > > described above. That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to > > be notified > > > when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses > > > ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it. > > Only then will > > > xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection. > > > > > > It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come > > > across it. I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a > > > suggestion :) > > > > > > Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior, > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM > > > > To: huntharo@msu.edu > > > > Subject: xwinclip comment > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Harold > > > > > > > > Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am > > > > (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to > > > > hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X > > > > app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm, > > the highlight > > > > vanishes after I let go of the mouse button. > > > > Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or > > > > is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops > > (one for X > > > > and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate > > threads, in > > > > case of the latter... > > > > > > > > --Josh > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From nagyt@otpbank.hu Wed Jan 23 10:05:00 2002 From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:05:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory Message-ID: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu> Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly increases, causing Windows getting slow? I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is 70MB, free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5 konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system is getting very slow. What is this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tibor Nagy E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Wed Jan 23 10:38:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:38:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin xfree86 consumes memory In-Reply-To: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu> References: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu> Message-ID: <20020123180224.GK6765@redhat.com> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 03:25:21PM +0100, Nagy Tibor wrote: >Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly >increases, causing Windows getting slow? > >I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in >Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is 70MB, >free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5 >konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free >physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system >is getting very slow. > >What is this? Haven't you seen the rumors? Red Hat is being acquired by America Online Memory (AOM). All of our applications will now consume massive amounts of memory as a matter of company policy. So, please buy an extra gigabyte or so of RAM. It will make us very happy. Remember, all AOM RAM comes with a shiny installation CD complete with 100 hours of free memory access. cgf (Just to stave off the invevitable email: No. I'm not serious.) From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Wed Jan 23 10:48:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:48:00 -0000 Subject: 4.2.0 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268329A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> The Cygwin/Xfree86 4.2.0 are available ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/ Suhaib From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jan 23 23:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:28:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory In-Reply-To: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu> Message-ID: Nagy, Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote machine via XMDCP? I'm assuming that you are running KDE locally. In that case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86. So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the same question in order to get some answers. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory > > > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly > increases, causing Windows getting slow? > > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is 70MB, > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5 > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system > is getting very slow. > > What is this? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tibor Nagy > E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jan 23 23:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:31:00 -0000 Subject: 4.2.0 In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268329A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: Suhaib, Alan built the binaries a couple days ago and uploaded them to the XFree86 ftp site. I downloaded them, installed them to verify that they work, and uploaded them to the mirror network under cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/... and I made a symbolic link called cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.1.0/ that points to the old 4.1.0 binaries. Alan's binaries installed fine, but your set gave errors about 'gnu-tar' not being found. Thus, I'm going to go with Alan's binaries. I'll be updating links and the User's Guide later tonight, after class is out for the day. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:05 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: 4.2.0 > > > > > The Cygwin/Xfree86 4.2.0 are available > > ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/ > > > Suhaib From nagyt@otpbank.hu Thu Jan 24 08:27:00 2002 From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:27:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory References: Message-ID: <3C4FB722.C1F2348A@otpbank.hu> Hi Harold, I am logging into KDE on a remote machine via XDMCP. Tibor Harold Hunt wrote: > > Nagy, > > Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote > machine via XMDCP? I'm assuming that you are running KDE locally. In that > case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86. > So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the same question in > order to get some answers. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory > > > > > > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly > > increases, causing Windows getting slow? > > > > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in > > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is 70MB, > > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5 > > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free > > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system > > is getting very slow. > > > > What is this? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Tibor Nagy > > E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tibor Nagy Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank) H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16. Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990 Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981 E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From nagyt@otpbank.hu Thu Jan 24 09:31:00 2002 From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:31:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory References: <00cd01c1a41f$2340df40$60a407d5@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <3C4FB7E4.9F49B3C5@otpbank.hu> I am reproducing only the problem of cource with 51 konsoles. The problem appears usually at normal work also after a while. Additional info: I am logging into KDE on a remote machine with XDMCP. Tibor Ralf Habacker wrote: > > > > > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly > > increases, causing Windows getting slow? > > > > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in > > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is 70MB, > > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5 > > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free > > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system > > is getting very slow. > > > > What is this? > For what you need 55 consoles ? > > Ralf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tibor Nagy Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank) H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16. Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990 Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981 E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jan 24 09:56:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory In-Reply-To: <3C4FB722.C1F2348A@otpbank.hu> Message-ID: Tibor, How much memory does your system have? Give me a count of just the physical memory. Also, let me know what version of Windows you are running. It is correct that each window opened in XDMCP needs memory, but that is expected. However, I'm running Windows 2000 and I opened 56 konsoles, but XWin.exe only took 18 MB of memory (according to Task Monitor). I'm guessing that you're running Windows 95/98/Me, so the numbers that you are seeing are actually skewed (Task Monitor does a terrible job of reporting memory usage, but the tools in 95/98/Me are even worse). Basically, I'm guessing that you don't have enough physical memory to be doing what you are trying to do. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:26 AM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory > > > Hi Harold, > > I am logging into KDE on a remote machine via XDMCP. > > Tibor > > Harold Hunt wrote: > > > > Nagy, > > > > Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote > > machine via XMDCP? I'm assuming that you are running KDE > locally. In that > > case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86. > > So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the > same question in > > order to get some answers. > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory > > > > > > > > > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly > > > increases, causing Windows getting slow? > > > > > > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in > > > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage > is 70MB, > > > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5 > > > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free > > > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the > whole system > > > is getting very slow. > > > > > > What is this? > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Tibor Nagy > > > E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tibor Nagy > Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project > National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank) > H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16. > Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990 Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981 E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From hainesr7@hotmail.com Thu Jan 24 10:17:00 2002 From: hainesr7@hotmail.com (Rob Haines) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:17:00 -0000 Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' Message-ID: Hi, I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I hope this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives and didn't find anything pertinent. I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as myself then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run something the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just started is flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the putty/exceed combination to log in to my remote machine. I haven't tried logging straight in as root, because our security policy does not allow it. Is this a cygwin-xfree issue, or something else? Thanks in advance, Rob Haines -- hainesr7@hotmail.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jan 24 23:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:30:00 -0000 Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob, What you describe sounds logical. Remember, it is your username, not root, that has setup the X tunnelling through ssh. Therefore, it makes sense that an X client launched by root would not display. I'm not a great X user, so I could be wrong... but I do think that the above makes sense. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Rob Haines > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:32 PM > To: Cygwin Xfree86 Maillist > Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' > > > Hi, > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I hope > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives and > didn't find anything pertinent. > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as myself > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run > something > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just > started is > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the > putty/exceed > combination to log in to my remote machine. I haven't tried > logging straight > in as root, because our security policy does not allow it. Is this a > cygwin-xfree issue, or something else? > > Thanks in advance, > > Rob Haines > -- > hainesr7@hotmail.com > From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Fri Jan 25 00:10:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:10:00 -0000 Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Rob Haines > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:32 PM > > Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' > > > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I hope > > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives and > > didn't find anything pertinent. > > > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the > > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as myself > > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run > > something > > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just > > started is > > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the > > putty/exceed Do you use *any* access limitations with exceed? IIRC its default is to leave the display totally open. This allows anybody in the neighbourhood to sniff characters from your display (xwd -display is one silly way), characters you type (like the root password of the su command) and even inject characters. > > combination to log in to my remote machine. I haven't tried > > logging straight > > in as root, because our security policy does not allow it. Is this a > > cygwin-xfree issue, or something else? > > > Rob, does 'ssh -v -X' give a better clue? What version of ssh do you have on the remote machine? Check your definitions of DISPLAY. If you connect to x-server-host to other-system, then DISPLAY should be set to something like other-machine:10.0 Try launching a simple X client, like xcalc. I believe that those simple programs tend to be netter at reporting X protocol errors than many other programs. > > What you describe sounds logical.Remember, it is your username, not root, > that has setup the X tunnelling through ssh.Therefore, it makes sense that > an X client launched by root would not display. > > I'm not a great X user, so I could be wrong... but I do think that the above > makes sense. Some linux distros (e.g.: my mandrake 8.1) come with a pam module (pam_xauth) that forwards the definition of DISPLAY and the XAUTHORITY to the user you are becoming (or only to root?) Also, maybe the following voodoo would work: su -c "env DISPLAY=${DISPLAY} XAUTHORITY=${HOME}/.Xauthority $SHELL" - (Runs a shell as root, with DISPLAY set to the original value of DISPLAY, and XAUTHORITY set to the user's XAUTHORITY file . As root, you can read it) -- Tzafrir Cohen /"\ mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ From nagyt@otpbank.hu Fri Jan 25 01:17:00 2002 From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:17:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory References: Message-ID: <3C51093C.4D153A6E@otpbank.hu> Hi Harold, you are right, the problem appears on Win98 with 64MB memory. I tried it yesterday also on Win2000, however with 128MB memory, there wasn't any problem. I'll try it also on Win98 with 128MB. It is interesting also, that the keyboard LEDs (NumLock, CapsLock) do not work on Win98 but they work on Win2000. Tibor Harold Hunt wrote: > > Tibor, > > How much memory does your system have? Give me a count of just the physical > memory. Also, let me know what version of Windows you are running. > > It is correct that each window opened in XDMCP needs memory, but that is > expected. However, I'm running Windows 2000 and I opened 56 konsoles, but > XWin.exe only took 18 MB of memory (according to Task Monitor). I'm > guessing that you're running Windows 95/98/Me, so the numbers that you are > seeing are actually skewed (Task Monitor does a terrible job of reporting > memory usage, but the tools in 95/98/Me are even worse). > > Basically, I'm guessing that you don't have enough physical memory to be > doing what you are trying to do. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:26 AM > > To: Harold Hunt > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory > > > > > > Hi Harold, > > > > I am logging into KDE on a remote machine via XDMCP. > > > > Tibor > > > > Harold Hunt wrote: > > > > > > Nagy, > > > > > > Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote > > > machine via XMDCP? I'm assuming that you are running KDE > > locally. In that > > > case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86. > > > So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the > > same question in > > > order to get some answers. > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > > Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory > > > > > > > > > > > > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly > > > > increases, causing Windows getting slow? > > > > > > > > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in > > > > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage > > is 70MB, > > > > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5 > > > > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free > > > > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the > > whole system > > > > is getting very slow. > > > > > > > > What is this? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Tibor Nagy > > > > E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Tibor Nagy > > Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project > > National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank) > > H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16. > > Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990 Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981 E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tibor Nagy Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank) H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16. Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990 Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981 E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jan 25 14:37:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:37:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory In-Reply-To: <3C51093C.4D153A6E@otpbank.hu> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Nagy Tibor wrote: > It is interesting also, that the keyboard LEDs (NumLock, CapsLock) do > not work on Win98 but they work on Win2000. The win32 api is slightly different between win9x and winnt. Maybe this is a reason for this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Jan 25 14:43:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: transparent term for cygwin/xfree86 Message-ID: Hi, Can anyone recommend a good term for cygwin/xfree86 that comes with transparency? I have got eterm and aterm to compile and run, but eterm is having problems with keyboard input, and aterm won't do transparency. Rgds, JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From phil@dmillard.com Fri Jan 25 15:43:00 2002 From: phil@dmillard.com (Phil Humpherys) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: X browser Message-ID: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree. I don't seem to be able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jan 25 17:54:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:54:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> Message-ID: Phil, There isn't much interest around here in getting compilcated browser software to work with Cygwin/XFree86, as you can just as easily use IE, Mozilla, Netscape, or whatever you choose directly in Windows, rather than through the multiple layers of Cygwin/XFree86. So, if you want to use an X web browser under Cygwin/XFree86, you'd better be ready for the enjoyment of getting such a web browser to work. :) Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have Konqueror working. http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/ Hope that helps, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Humpherys > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:41 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: X browser > > > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree. I don't seem to be > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree. > > Any suggestion? Thanks in advance. > From john.turner@pobox.com Fri Jan 25 18:22:00 2002 From: john.turner@pobox.com (John A. Turner) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:22:00 -0000 Subject: X browser References: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> Message-ID: <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com> Phil Humpherys wrote: > > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree. I don't seem to be > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree. why in the world would you want to do such a thing?? -John Turner From briangenisio@yahoo.com Sat Jan 26 07:17:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 07:17:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> Message-ID: <20020126015414.33475.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> dillo works in Cygwin/Windows/XFree. I compiled it. It is super fast, but also extremely new, and doesnt display too many pages correctly. I think you can find it on sourceforge. Brian --- Phil Humpherys wrote: > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree. I don't seem to be > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree. > > Any suggestion? Thanks in advance. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us Sat Jan 26 09:18:00 2002 From: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us (Tom Bozack) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: xwin.exe stalls and seg faults Message-ID: <3C5212C9.5080504@ridgecrest.ca.us> Hi I just installed cygwin-xfree on a PC to use as an login to a Linux machine running KDE on Mandrake 8.1. It works great -- for about 2 mintutes. Then is becomes slow and unresponsive and eventually dies with a segmentation fault. The machine I'm running cygwin-xfree86 on is a 366 Mhz Pentium with 128 MB of memory. Here's how I execute XWin.exe: XWin.exe -screen 0 1024x768 -from 192.168.0.2 -query 192.168.0.1 and here are the resulting messages written to shell window: ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 9 i: 1 ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 714 r 1018 l 0 b 714 t 0 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 16 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:30:40 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 3 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34243 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:30:55 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 4 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34258 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:10 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 10 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34269 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:25 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 2 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34290 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 2 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34294 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34296 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34301 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34302 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34307 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34321 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34325 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34329 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34333 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34335 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34336 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34337 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34338 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34339 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34355 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34358 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34359 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34360 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34369 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34375 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34376 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34377 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:37:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34383 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:37:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34386 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:37:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34394 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:01 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34405 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:16 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34406 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:34 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34407 AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:52 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34408 I assume the problem is related to the "AUDIT" message, but I don't know the cause or how to correct it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sat Jan 26 10:02:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:02:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020126151715.84275.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Harold and all, You're right, Konqueror is working under KDE. > Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have Konqueror > working. > > http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/ > > Hope that helps, > > Harold ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.fr From roland@steeltorch.com Sat Jan 26 10:24:00 2002 From: roland@steeltorch.com (roland@steeltorch.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:24:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> Message-ID: I wanted to do something similar. You can try Dillo, which after I got GTK and GLIB installed compiled without a problem. You'll find it "alpha" quality and not really that useable however. http://dillo.sourceforge.net/ A note to those who question why (a rant somewhat, so please take with a grain of salt): Sometimes it doesn't matter why. Sure, we could just use IE, Mozilla directly, but that wasn't the question posed and is quite obvious, so it's much more effective to just answer the question to the best of your abilities if you feel like contributing. People have all sorts of reasons, and even the stupid reasons are valid for that person. It's a relative thing, perhaps akin to matters of faith in its personal nature. As far as non-graphical browsers go, I know someone has gotten w3m compiled and working nicely in an xterm (mouse support, frames, ssl, cookies, etc). this is a really nice terminal browser, but I feel sure you meant graphical browsers. Incidentally, check the mailing list archives before posting. http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q4/msg00571.html -rgm On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Phil Humpherys wrote: > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree. I don't seem to be > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree. > > Any suggestion? Thanks in advance. > From darryl@shecora.com Sat Jan 26 11:21:00 2002 From: darryl@shecora.com (Darryl Wagoner) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:21:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 Message-ID: Greetings, I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a blank X screen with a pointer cursors. The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system. I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going to Linux. In the docs it says to change gdm.conf [xdmcp] Enable=1 but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit. [xdmcp] Enable=true I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port. Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port? thanks -- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up today at: http://www.proud-americans.org/ *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jan 26 11:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:40:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Darryl, According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is 177, not 117. I don't know what else to tell you. Try using kdm instead. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > Greetings, > > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a > blank X screen with a pointer cursors. > > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system. > > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going > to Linux. > > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf > > [xdmcp] > Enable=1 > > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit. > > [xdmcp] > Enable=true > > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port. > > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port? > > thanks > > -- > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up > today at: > http://www.proud-americans.org/ > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > > From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sat Jan 26 12:38:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:38:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: <20020126151715.84275.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000d01c1a69e$596a0b10$b66607d5@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sylvain Petreolle > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:17 PM > To: cygx > Subject: RE: X browser > > > Hi Harold and all, > > You're right, > Konqueror is working under KDE. But please note that this is currently in alpha state :-) Ralf > > > Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have Konqueror > > working. > > > > http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > Harold > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.fr > From flognat@flognat.myip.org Sat Jan 26 12:52:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:52:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com> References: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com> Message-ID: / "John A. Turner" wrote: | Phil Humpherys wrote: | > | > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree. I don't seem to be | > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree. | | why in the world would you want to do such a thing?? Comeon, why do you need cygwin on your desktop?? :-) Just squeeze linux into the machine instead.. ;-) One reason could maybe be that he wants to see how a unix-folk sees a webpage.. maybe not.. To the original author.. what do you mean with X browser, yeah I know netscape/whatever, but should it run on the machine with cygwin, or on another machine standing beside?? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From wilvil@rogers.com Sat Jan 26 13:16:00 2002 From: wilvil@rogers.com (Wilfred Villegas) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:16:00 -0000 Subject: xterm problems Message-ID: <002901c1a6a9$5eb3a580$e04d9d18@wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> I just recently installed the newest xfree86 (4.2.0). I have cygwin installed on a Windows 98 machine. I have two problems: 1) The startx script doesn't seem to work for me. Whenever I try to run it, it says xinit: not found Why doesn't this work? 2) Even though startx doesn't work, startxwin.sh works, and that's what I use now. But when I'm in xterm, and open one of the man pages, I get this message: WARNING: terminal is not fully functional - (press RETURN) When I press return, the man pages open, but there's no color or bolding, and the page up and page down keys don't work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Sat Jan 26 13:21:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:21:00 -0000 Subject: xterm problems In-Reply-To: <002901c1a6a9$5eb3a580$e04d9d18@wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Wilfred Villegas wrote: > I just recently installed the newest xfree86 (4.2.0).I have cygwin > installed on a Windows 98 machine.I have two problems: > 2) Even though startx doesn't work, startxwin.sh works, and that's what I > use now.But when I'm in xterm, and open one of the man pages, I get this > message: > WARNING: terminal is not fully functional > - (press RETURN) This is related to the terminal definitions. Immediate workaround: run: TERM=vt100 (or 'set term=vt100' on tcsh) Gives you almost all of what you need, and is defined just about anywhere. What is your current value of TERM? ('echo $TERM') BTW: The terminfo definition file of xterm is /usr/share/termonfo/x/xterm -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir From darryl@shecora.com Sat Jan 26 13:35:00 2002 From: darryl@shecora.com (Darryl Wagoner) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:35:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, Yep change the port to 177 start to show packets moving back and forth. At some point a login screen came up. I repeated and got the login screen fairly quickly. Try again and it has been waiting for about 10 mins and still no screen. I can see packets, but that is about it? Any ideas? -- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up today at: http://www.proud-americans.org/ *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM > To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > Darryl, > > According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO > (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is > 177, not 117. > > I don't know what else to tell you. Try using kdm instead. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a > > blank X screen with a pointer cursors. > > > > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system. > > > > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going > > to Linux. > > > > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf > > > > [xdmcp] > > Enable=1 > > > > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit. > > > > [xdmcp] > > Enable=true > > > > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port. > > > > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port? > > > > thanks > > > > -- > > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON > > > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up > > today at: > > http://www.proud-americans.org/ > > > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** > > > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jan 26 15:38:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:38:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Darryl, Probably a problem with your network configuration. I had problems like that when DHCP and WINS were not configured properly. Check your hubs/switches for activity levels (lots of activity when no one is using the network is a good sign that WINS is chattering aimlessly and wasting bandwidth). Oh, what kind of network do you have? Are you connecting over a cable modem or are you using a local area network? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:17 PM > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > Greetings, > > Yep change the port to 177 start to show packets moving back and forth. > At some point a login screen came up. I repeated and got the login > screen fairly quickly. Try again and it has been waiting for about > 10 mins and still no screen. I can see packets, but that is about it? > > Any ideas? > > -- > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up > today at: > http://www.proud-americans.org/ > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM > > To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > > > > Darryl, > > > > According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO > > (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is > > 177, not 117. > > > > I don't know what else to tell you. Try using kdm instead. > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a > > > blank X screen with a pointer cursors. > > > > > > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system. > > > > > > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going > > > to Linux. > > > > > > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf > > > > > > [xdmcp] > > > Enable=1 > > > > > > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit. > > > > > > [xdmcp] > > > Enable=true > > > > > > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port. > > > > > > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > -- > > > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON > > > > > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up > > > today at: > > > http://www.proud-americans.org/ > > > > > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** > > > > > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > > > > > > From wilvil@rogers.com Sat Jan 26 17:42:00 2002 From: wilvil@rogers.com (Wilfred Villegas) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:42:00 -0000 Subject: xterm problems References: Message-ID: <002901c1a6b1$560561a0$e04d9d18@wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> I set the TERM variable to vt100 and it works. But it gets changed to vt102 everytime i restart cygwin. Where am I supposed to change it so it's permanent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tzafrir Cohen" To: "Wilfred Villegas" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: xterm problems > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Wilfred Villegas wrote: > > > I just recently installed the newest xfree86 (4.2.0).I have cygwin > > installed on a Windows 98 machine.I have two problems: > > > 2) Even though startx doesn't work, startxwin.sh works, and that's what I > > use now.But when I'm in xterm, and open one of the man pages, I get this > > message: > > WARNING: terminal is not fully functional > > - (press RETURN) > > This is related to the terminal definitions. > > Immediate workaround: > > run: > > TERM=vt100 > > (or 'set term=vt100' on tcsh) > > Gives you almost all of what you need, and is defined just about anywhere. > > What is your current value of TERM? ('echo $TERM') > > BTW: > The terminfo definition file of xterm is /usr/share/termonfo/x/xterm > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen > mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir > > > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sat Jan 26 23:03:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 23:03:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: <000d01c1a69e$596a0b10$b66607d5@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <20020126233828.17522.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Ralf and others, KDE is alpha, that's a fact. But I wait the installation of cygwin/XFree as packages... Then you'll be able to put KDE installable as a cygwin package ! * sad because m$ programs reinstall every library they need whithout any notion of packaging * --- Ralf Habacker a ??crit??: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of > Sylvain Petreolle > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:17 PM > > To: cygx > > Subject: RE: X browser > > > > > > Hi Harold and all, > > > > You're right, > > Konqueror is working under KDE. > > But please note that this is currently in alpha > state :-) > > Ralf > > > > > > Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have > Konqueror > > > working. > > > > > > http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/ > > > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite > et en fran??ais ! > > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.fr > > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.fr From jgchiu@yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 11:42:00 2002 From: jgchiu@yahoo.com (Julio Chiu) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:42:00 -0000 Subject: X programs with tcl/tk compile, but crash Message-ID: <20020127014207.39644.qmail@web12002.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I wrote a simple tcl/tk that has frame which calls to my c progra which in turns calls some X functions. I can compile the program fine, but when I run it, it core dumps with STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION. I traced through the program and it core dumps when it calls X functions like DefaultScreen() and XGetGeometry. ( however, it works fine under Linux or SunOS ). I have the XFree 4.2.0 and tk/tcl 8.0. Simple tk/tcl-C program works fine. Only when I call X stuff will it coredump. I search the mailing list for similar problems, and even made sure that it was not the /usr/include/X11. Any insight? thanks in advance jc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From notforme64060@yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 11:52:00 2002 From: notforme64060@yahoo.com (notforme) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: Desperate to sell my house Message-ID: <3249938-2200210277330774@yahoo.com> For a virtual tour please visit: http://www.desperatetosellinarizona.com From darryl@shecora.com Sun Jan 27 12:01:00 2002 From: darryl@shecora.com (Darryl Wagoner) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:01:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, Thanks to Harold I do see packets going to the server and being answered, but only once in awhile will I get a log in screen. Any suggestions on how to debug this? thanks -- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up today at: http://www.proud-americans.org/ *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM > To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > Darryl, > > According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO > (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is > 177, not 117. > > I don't know what else to tell you. Try using kdm instead. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a > > blank X screen with a pointer cursors. > > > > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system. > > > > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going > > to Linux. > > > > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf > > > > [xdmcp] > > Enable=1 > > > > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit. > > > > [xdmcp] > > Enable=true > > > > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port. > > > > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port? > > > > thanks > > > > -- > > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON > > > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up > > today at: > > http://www.proud-americans.org/ > > > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** > > > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jan 27 12:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:05:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Darryl, If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two computers in question together on a seperate test network, making sure to set each machine up with a static IP address. Then try to login via XDMCP on the test network. If XDMCP works fine on the test network, then you have some sort of misconfiguration on your primary network (which is what I suspect). You still haven't told us the speed of the network between the machines. Cable modems do not work as fast as 10Base-T, so XDMCP doesn't usually work very well over a cable modem. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:43 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > Greetings, > > Thanks to Harold I do see packets going to the server and being answered, > but only once in awhile will I get a log in screen. Any suggestions > on how to debug this? > > thanks > > -- > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up > today at: > http://www.proud-americans.org/ > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM > > To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > > > > Darryl, > > > > According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO > > (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is > > 177, not 117. > > > > I don't know what else to tell you. Try using kdm instead. > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a > > > blank X screen with a pointer cursors. > > > > > > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system. > > > > > > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going > > > to Linux. > > > > > > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf > > > > > > [xdmcp] > > > Enable=1 > > > > > > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit. > > > > > > [xdmcp] > > > Enable=true > > > > > > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port. > > > > > > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > -- > > > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON > > > > > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up > > > today at: > > > http://www.proud-americans.org/ > > > > > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** > > > > > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797] > > > > > > From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Sun Jan 27 12:15:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:15:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > Darryl, > > If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two > computers in question together on a seperate test network, making sure to [snip] A simpler suggestion: telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server. A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If no connection is established then something is wrong. To see that a connection is established with the standard unix tellnet: $ telent windows_machine 6000 Trying ... Connected to Message-ID: Tzafrir, > A simpler suggestion: > > telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server. > > A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If > no connection is established then something is wrong. That's not a simpler test... it won't give any new information. We already know that something is wrong, the issue now is to find out what is causing the problem. If you noticed, he said that he _sometimes_ gets an XDM login screen. The test you describe will probably _sometimes_ work, which does nothing to tell us where the problem is coming from. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 3:03 PM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 > > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Darryl, > > > > If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two > > computers in question together on a seperate test network, > making sure to > > [snip] > > A simpler suggestion: > > telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server. > > A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If > no connection is established then something is wrong. > > To see that a connection is established with the standard unix tellnet: > > $ telent windows_machine 6000 > Trying ... > Connected to Escape character is '^]'. > > At this point a connection was established. > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen /"\ > mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ > From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Sun Jan 27 14:52:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:52:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > Tzafrir, > > > A simpler suggestion: > > > > telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server. > > > > A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If > > no connection is established then something is wrong. > > That's not a simpler test... it won't give any new information. > > We already know that something is wrong, the issue now is to find out what > is causing the problem. > > If you noticed, he said that he _sometimes_ gets an XDM login screen.The > test you describe will probably _sometimes_ work, which does nothing to tell > us where the problem is coming from. If a cleint is not able to connect to an X server it may be because the client or the server processes are misconfigured, or because the network configuration below is screwed-up. telnet to port 6000 verifies that the network layer probably works. Also try doing a large file transfer, to verify that the connection is not very bad and gets disconnected. I believe that this will eliminate any networking wierdness and allow to focus on X (mis)configuration issues. (And it is much simpler than setting a seprate network with static IPs) -- Tzafrir Cohen /"\ mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ From nigel@bprj.co.uk Sun Jan 27 15:25:00 2002 From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:25:00 -0000 Subject: Fw: Xfree86 4.2.0: Shell_NofifyIcon Fail Message-ID: <001901c1a771$3697b6e0$6a01a8c0@bprj.co.uk> Every few minutes or so (e.g. 10 minutes?) 3 dialog boxes sequentially appear in Windows: the Xfree86 fullscreen is minimised to do this. The dialog box is entitled 'Error' and the message is 'Shell_NofifyIcon Fail'. I am using w2k with the following command line (from a Windows shortcut): C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -fullscreen -nowinkill -once -query jeeves -xkbmap gb My screen is 1600x1200x24bpp Nvidia (DirectDraw - the latest - DirectX 8.1, I think). This error is usually associated with a shell icon (those little ones by the clock), switch back to windows reveals an ordinary minimised button with no icon, not a shell icon. The version of Cywin/xfree is the latest release, non-development issue, which corresponds to the latest 4.2.0 of Xfree. Regards, Nigel Hathaway ************************************ Barnabas Projects Limited Tel: +44 117 937 4197 Internet: www.bprj.co.uk From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jan 28 04:21:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 04:21:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Darryl Wagoner wrote: [problems with xdmcp] Maybe xdm can give us some information. Do you have root access to the remote machine? If so, kill kdm and start xdm -nodaemon -debug 10 This will start the xdmcp server and print out a lot of debug information. Start the xserver with XWin -query If you have no root access, you can copy the xdm config file (/etc/X11/xdm-config) and change the pidFile, keyFile, authDir to some writable files/dirs and requestPort to a value above 1024, then start xdm -nodaemon -debug 10 The xserver must be started with XWin -query -port bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From guillot@eresmas.net Mon Jan 28 05:11:00 2002 From: guillot@eresmas.net (guillot@eresmas.net) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: Importante leer Message-ID: Imprima y lea atentamente hasta el final. Es importante y le llevar?? 5 min. empezar a ganar 80.000 euros (13.300.000 Pts/73.900 Us$) Esto no es ninguna loteria ni sorteo, es una operaci??n real. ??Cuanto dinero se gasta usted en loteria, en salir un rato un dia o en cualquier cosa que no le reporta nada? 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No olvide cambiar las direcciones de este e-mail por el del tercer colocado que ser?? usted tanto arriba como abajo de esta nota para garantizar que le pregunten a usted, el primer interesado y que una persona que quiera evitar que le env??e e-mails tenga derecho a ello. ------------------------------------------------ esta carta no puede ser considerada SPAM mientras incluya la forma de ser removido. Para ser removido de futuros correos simplemente responda con "REMOVE" en el Subject. Lo anterior le removera en forma permanente de futuros e-mails de guillot@eresmas.net GRACIAS!!! this letter cannot be considered SPAM as long as we include the way to be removed. To be removed from future mailings simply respond with "REMOVE" in the subject line. This will permanently remove you from all future e-mailings from guillot@eresmas.net THANK YOU!!! En cualquier caso, este es un e-mail ??nico y no recibir?? m??s de esta direcci??n de correo.: REMOVE No olvide declarar sus ingresos seg??n las tasas que esten dispuestas por la ley de su pais. From keh112@york.ac.uk Mon Jan 28 05:13:00 2002 From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:13:00 -0000 Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta Message-ID: I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 according to the instructions. As I live in the UK I got hold of a Xmodmap for the keymappings. I tried running % xmodmap Xmodmap.uk where Xmodmap.uk is the mapping file from a bash prompt. I now get rather wierd behaviour. In bash windows (and in xterms running telnet to a linux box) I find that shift-3 sends #CTRL-M so that # is entered to the prompt. Also my backspace key prints a ~. CTRL-H still backspaces though. However in xedit everthing works fine. Backspace backspaces and shift-3 prints a pound sign. Any suggestions? On a similar note (and possibly related) I can't seem to work out what my Meta key in Xedit is. I've tried pressing the ESC key and sending CTRL-], CTRL-[ and CTRL-@ before the other keypress. I don't make use of anything else that needs a Meta key so I haven't tried anything else. This didn't work before I got hold of a keymapping file and it doesn't work afterwards. Any help would be very much appreciated - I only really use cygwin/xfree as an X display but it doesn't work locally either. ---------------------------------------------------------- | Kirsty Hollingworth | This space is traditionally | | | reserved for comments. | | | /* */ | ---------------------------------------------------------- From hainesr7@hotmail.com Mon Jan 28 05:44:00 2002 From: hainesr7@hotmail.com (Robert Haines) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:44:00 -0000 Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' References: Message-ID: > > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I hope > > > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives and > > > didn't find anything pertinent. > > > > > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the > > > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as myself > > > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run > > > something > > > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just > > > started is > > > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the > > > putty/exceed > Thanks for your responses guys. I have now had chance to do a little research using a Linux box in place of my Cygwin/XFree box and the end result is the same. Once I have su'd I can't expect X forwarding to work. Now I think about it, this is hardly strange. The only difference in the whole process was that I did actually get an error when using two Linux boxes and the task was terminated, unlike on the Cygwin/XFree setup where no error was received and the task simply went to sleep. Now I know that this is normal behaviour, I'll not try it again :-) Thanks again, Robert Haines. From tzafrir@technion.ac.il Mon Jan 28 05:46:00 2002 From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:46:00 -0000 Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Kirsty Hollingworth wrote: > I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 according to the instructions.As I live > in the UK I got hold of a Xmodmap for the keymappings.I tried running > > %xmodmap Xmodmap.uk > > where Xmodmap.uk is the mapping file from a bash prompt.I now get rather > wierd behaviour.In bash windows (and in xterms running telnet to a linux > box) I find that shift-3 sends #CTRL-M so that # is entered to the prompt. > Also my backspace key prints a ~.CTRL-H still backspaces though. > However in xedit everthing works fine. Backspace backspaces and shift-3 > prints a pound sign.Any suggestions? What happens if you use: setxkbmap uk instead? Some other pointers: http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Intkeyb/ And the oh-so-confusing: http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/BackspaceDelete/ cygwin is not linux, but both use XFree and both use posix and gnu, so there are enough points of similarity. -- Tzafrir Cohen /"\ mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ From nigel@bprj.co.uk Mon Jan 28 07:59:00 2002 From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:59:00 -0000 Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta Message-ID: <200201281534.g0SFYC017345@jeeves.brpj.co.uk> The **REAL** answer to your question is found in the mail archives. See "Re: xmodmap, xkb and XF86Config" by Laurent Pinchart dated Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:25:56 +0200. To answer the "what happens if..." below: the answer is it crashes with a horrible error message, which translated means "Please develop me more. I don't feel comfortable under Windows." Nigel Hathaway *********************************** Barnabas Projects Limited Tel: +44 117 937 4197 Internet: www.bprj.co.uk On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Kirsty Hollingworth wrote: > I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 according to the instructions.As I live > in the UK I got hold of a Xmodmap for the keymappings.I tried running > > %xmodmap Xmodmap.uk > > where Xmodmap.uk is the mapping file from a bash prompt.I now get rather > wierd behaviour.In bash windows (and in xterms running telnet to a linux > box) I find that shift-3 sends #CTRL-M so that # is entered to the prompt. > Also my backspace key prints a ~.CTRL-H still backspaces though. > However in xedit everthing works fine. Backspace backspaces and shift-3 > prints a pound sign.Any suggestions? What happens if you use: setxkbmap uk instead? Some other pointers: http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Intkeyb/ And the oh-so-confusing: http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/BackspaceDelete/ cygwin is not linux, but both use XFree and both use posix and gnu, so there are enough points of similarity. -- Tzafrir Cohen /"\ mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ --------------------------------------------------------- This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com --------------------------------------------------------- Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jan 28 10:37:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:37:00 -0000 Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > What happens if you use: > > setxkbmap uk > > instead? For this, make sure the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/* exists and that /tmp is mounted in binary mode. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From nigel@bprj.co.uk Mon Jan 28 10:39:00 2002 From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:39:00 -0000 Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta Message-ID: <200201281534.g0SFYC017345@jeeves.brpj.co.uk> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jan 28 11:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:02:00 -0000 Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Robert, I found a document that may be of help: Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO (http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html) In particular, the section called "X Applications from Another User-id" may be useful: http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-7.html That should explain some related difficulties, even though you are using ssh... Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Haines [mailto:hainesr7@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:09 AM > To: Tzafrir Cohen; Harold Hunt > Cc: cygx > Subject: Re: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' > > > > > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I > hope > > > > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check > the archives > and > > > > didn't find anything pertinent. > > > > > > > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) > and have the > > > > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as > myself > > > > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run > > > > something > > > > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just > > > > started is > > > > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the > > > > putty/exceed > > > > Thanks for your responses guys. I have now had chance to do a little > research using a Linux box in place of my Cygwin/XFree box and the end > result is the same. Once I have su'd I can't expect X forwarding to work. > Now I think about it, this is hardly strange. The only difference in the > whole process was that I did actually get an error when using two Linux > boxes and the task was terminated, unlike on the Cygwin/XFree > setup where no > error was received and the task simply went to sleep. > > Now I know that this is normal behaviour, I'll not try it again :-) > > Thanks again, > Robert Haines. > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jan 28 13:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:00:00 -0000 Subject: FW: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 Message-ID: Darryl forgot to cc the mailing list. No biggie. Harold -----Original Message----- From: Darryl Wagoner [mailto:darryl@shecora.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:38 AM To: Harold Hunt Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2 Harold and the group, > If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two > computers in question together on a separate test network, making sure to > set each machine up with a static IP address. Then try to login via XDMCP > on the test network. If XDMCP works fine on the test network, > then you have > some sort of misconfiguration on your primary network (which is what I > suspect). My net configuration is fairly simple. It is a local 10Base-T with 4 systems on it(Win2k, linux and 2 Win98). The Win2k is the firewall to Starband sat connection. The thur-put is around 75% 800Kbyte per seconds in both directions. Other network applications works flawlessly include XWin32 if I start it without XDMCP. Spray from Linux has zero packet drop as well. > > You still haven't told us the speed of the network between the machines. > Cable modems do not work as fast as 10Base-T, so XDMCP doesn't > usually work > very well over a cable modem. Sorry about that it is 10Mbit. I been around this type of network for years and most of the time I can smell a network problem. I think the simple answer is that I don't understand xdmcp very well and I have something configured wrong. I have been able to get a XDMCP login for a while. I just bounced the Linux server in hopes that will help. It seems to have help. I will keep you posted. Also I am using static IPs for the local area. thanks for all your help. -- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up today at: http://www.proud-americans.org/ *** Please pass the word to at least three others. *** "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke [1729-1797]> > > > From rodneykelly@hotmail.com Mon Jan 28 13:26:00 2002 From: rodneykelly@hotmail.com (Rodney Kelly) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:26:00 -0000 Subject: can't load javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel Message-ID: I'm using XFree86 to connect to a Sun Solaris box using XDMCP. All apps run fine except for one java app. This app runs fine with eXceed. Does anyone have any suggestions/workarounds? Exception in thread "main" java.lang.Error: can't load javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method) at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Compiled Code) at java.lang.Throwable.(Compiled Code) at java.lang.Error.(Error.java:50) at javax.swing.UIManager.initializeDefaultLAF(UIManager.java:856) at javax.swing.UIManager.initialize(UIManager.java:926) at javax.swing.UIManager.maybeInitialize(UIManager.java:948) at javax.swing.UIManager.getDefaults(UIManager.java:447) at javax.swing.UIManager.put(UIManager.java:549) at com.vitria.est.console.ConsoleLib.main(Compiled Code) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From phil@dmillard.com Mon Jan 28 18:16:00 2002 From: phil@dmillard.com (Phil Humpherys) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:16:00 -0000 Subject: X browser In-Reply-To: <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com>; from john.turner@pobox.com on Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:45:30PM -0700 References: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com> Message-ID: <20020128140342.A15999@nimbus.dmillard.com> So that I don't have to leave my X environment because I need a decent web browser. On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:45:30PM -0700 John A. Turner(john.turner@pobox.com) wrote: +-------------------- > Phil Humpherys wrote: > > > > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree. I don't seem to be > > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree. > > why in the world would you want to do such a thing?? > > -John Turner From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 00:54:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:54:00 -0000 Subject: Beware of party photos. Message-ID: <20020128212651.61594.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> As for that "Party Photos" message that got sent to everyone... Beware that it is a virus... It did not come from me, but I read about it this morning... Info : http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/01/28/020128hnmyparty.xml?0128alert __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From rodneykelly@hotmail.com Tue Jan 29 02:43:00 2002 From: rodneykelly@hotmail.com (Rodney Kelly) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:43:00 -0000 Subject: can't load javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel Message-ID: Quick follow-up to my previous post. The java app I was having trouble with on Solaris seems to launch fine when in 256 color mode. It crashes at any other resolution. Unfortunately this (256) makes everything else hard to read. Any Suggestions? Rod _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From nigel@bprj.co.uk Tue Jan 29 03:48:00 2002 From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:48:00 -0000 Subject: Feature request: clipboard transfer Message-ID: <200201290839.g0T8d4023540@jeeves.brpj.co.uk> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jmp@micromuse.com Tue Jan 29 03:51:00 2002 From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:51:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? Message-ID: <013f01c1a8b1$87f67bc0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> Hi there I've just completed installing XFree... Added the ice window manager (need full screen and 16 bits color depth, but fair enough). And the whole thing is running slow, really slow. Ok, this is not a trivial piece of code (it is quite impressive to be honnest), but with a dual PIII 1Ghz, 1G of RAM, Matrox G450, I wouldn't expect any perf problem. any ideas ? thanks JM From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 04:10:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: Feature request: clipboard transfer In-Reply-To: <200201290839.g0T8d4023540@jeeves.brpj.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020129114822.44764.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com> http://xfree.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ --- Nigel Hathaway wrote: > It would be good if the X clipboard and the Windows clipboard could be > linked so that you can cut-and-paste between X apps and Windows apps (and > vice versa). > > Nigel Hathaway > > *********************************** > Barnabas Projects Limited > Tel: +44 117 937 4197 > Internet: http://www.bprj.co.uk > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? > You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. > > Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 04:28:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 04:28:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: <013f01c1a8b1$87f67bc0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> Message-ID: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> What OS? How are you starting the X server? What engine are you using? I run with a PII 300 Mghz in Win2K, and it runs quite well. Make sure you are running engine 4. See the user's guide for more info : http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/ --- Jean-Marc Paulin wrote: > Hi there > > I've just completed installing XFree... > Added the ice window manager (need full screen and 16 bits color depth, but > fair enough). > > And the whole thing is running slow, really slow. > > Ok, this is not a trivial piece of code (it is quite impressive to be > honnest), but with a dual PIII 1Ghz, 1G of RAM, Matrox G450, I wouldn't > expect any perf problem. > > any ideas ? > > thanks > > JM > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From jmp@micromuse.com Tue Jan 29 04:50:00 2002 From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 04:50:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? References: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> OS: Win2000 SP2 How do I start the damn thing: startx from cygwin I am running engine 4.2.0 I have attached the startup files I am using. The startx is the shipped one with the defaultserverargs variable modified. - Could that be linked to the dual CPU ? Thanks JM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Genisio" To: "Jean-Marc Paulin" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? > What OS? How are you starting the X server? What engine are you using? I run > with a PII 300 Mghz in Win2K, and it runs quite well. Make sure you are > running engine 4. 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Name: .xinitrc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 711 bytes Desc: not available URL: From flognat@flognat.myip.org Tue Jan 29 07:09:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:09:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: <003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> References: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> <003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> Message-ID: / "Jean-Marc Paulin" wrote: | OS: Win2000 SP2 | How do I start the damn thing: startx from cygwin | I am running engine 4.2.0 Any difference using startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From jmp@micromuse.com Tue Jan 29 08:58:00 2002 From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:58:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? References: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com><003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> Message-ID: <007401c1a8c3$3e7b1f70$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> No, not really. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Markebo" To: "Jean-Marc Paulin" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? > / "Jean-Marc Paulin" wrote: > | OS: Win2000 SP2 > | How do I start the damn thing: startx from cygwin > | I am running engine 4.2.0 > > Any difference using startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat? > > /Andy > -- > The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! > From jbertran@cirsa.com Tue Jan 29 09:01:00 2002 From: jbertran@cirsa.com (Joan Bertran) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:01:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients Message-ID: Recent cygwin Xfree implementations work great with Linux clients but unfortunately I have some old HP-Ux 9.x computers on the network and the mouse pointer does not work properly, it's imposible to move or resize windows or to activate the focus by click, only buttons respond to mouse. (I guess that HP-UX 9.x uses Xlib X11R5 or R6) With Cygwin Xfree 4.0.1 (XWin.exe 4.731.361 bytes 01/october/2000 16:25) the mouse works but too beta. Any hint ? Second Topic i like this seeting for the spanish keyboard if it's of any help to somebody. xkb_keymap "es_105" { xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86" }; xkb_types { include "default" }; xkb_compatibility { include "default+pc" }; xkb_symbols { include "en_US(pc105)+es+altwin(meta_alt)+ralt(mode_switch)" }; xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" }; }; Thankyou, jbertran@cirsa.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 29 09:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Brian, > Make sure you are running engine 4. That is somewhat misleading advice. There is code in the server that detects which engines types are supported. Engine 4, the best performing engine, is used whenever it is supported. Thus, to tell the user to use engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase. Jean-Marc has Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin will always use engine 4 on his system. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 29 10:52:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:52:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try this: >From Linux machine running XFree86 4.1.0 or XFree86 4.2.0, see how remote X Clients running on your HP boxes work. Interpretation of results: 1) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0/4.2.0 then the problem has to do with XFree86 and its underlying libraries (but has nothing to do with the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server). This does not mean there is a bug in XFree86. It could be that Xlib from HP-UX is known not to be compatible with the X standard (that's the way it is with Sun's Xlib, I believe). In this case, your best bet is either to search for an updated X Window System from HP, or to install XFree86 for HP-UX (I believe it exists). 2) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86 4.0.1, then there may be some sort of compile time error being built into Cygwin/XFree86's libraries, or perhaps you've got an issue with binary/text mounts on your Cygwin installation (I'm not certain that could affect the mouse in X). So, go forth and test! :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joan Bertran > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:09 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients > > > Recent cygwin Xfree implementations work great with Linux clients > but unfortunately I have some old HP-Ux 9.x computers on the network > and the mouse pointer does not work properly, it's imposible to move > or resize windows or to activate the focus by click, only buttons > respond to mouse. (I guess that HP-UX 9.x uses Xlib X11R5 or R6) > With Cygwin Xfree 4.0.1 (XWin.exe 4.731.361 bytes 01/october/2000 16:25) > the mouse works but too beta. Any hint ? > > > Second Topic i like this seeting for the spanish keyboard if it's of any > help > to somebody. > xkb_keymap "es_105" { > xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86" }; > xkb_types { include "default" }; > xkb_compatibility { include "default+pc" }; > xkb_symbols { include > "en_US(pc105)+es+altwin(meta_alt)+ralt(mode_switch)" }; > xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" }; > }; > > Thankyou, > jbertran@cirsa.com > From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 10:57:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:57:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020129171808.92838.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Appologies... This is something I knew, but worded my statement wrong. At the time, I did not know the OS, or how he was starting the X server (could have been command line)... My statement was more to explain that the -engine 1 option should not have been used.... One of those "I knew what I meant" statements... Anyways, sorry... not good at getting my point across. B --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Brian, > > > Make sure you are running engine 4. > > That is somewhat misleading advice. There is code in the server that > detects which engines types are supported. Engine 4, the best performing > engine, is used whenever it is supported. Thus, to tell the user to use > engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase. Jean-Marc has > Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin will always > use engine 4 on his system. > > Harold > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 29 11:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: <20020129171808.92838.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Brian, No problem. Hey, the funny thing is that I didn't know what OS he was running either. As I was writing, I glanced back to his original message and saw W2K... kinda weird that we both missed that on our first read. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Brian Genisio > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:18 PM > To: Harold Hunt; Jean-Marc Paulin; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? > > > Appologies... This is something I knew, but worded my statement > wrong. At the > time, I did not know the OS, or how he was starting the X server > (could have > been command line)... My statement was more to explain that the -engine 1 > option should not have been used.... One of those "I knew what I meant" > statements... > > Anyways, sorry... not good at getting my point across. > B > > > --- Harold Hunt wrote: > > Brian, > > > > > Make sure you are running engine 4. > > > > That is somewhat misleading advice. There is code in the server that > > detects which engines types are supported. Engine 4, the best > performing > > engine, is used whenever it is supported. Thus, to tell the user to use > > engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase. > Jean-Marc has > > Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin > will always > > use engine 4 on his system. > > > > Harold > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jan 29 12:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brian, Oops... there wasn't a note about W2K in the original message... I just saw it there even though it wasn't :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:52 PM > To: Brian Genisio; Jean-Marc Paulin; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? > > > Brian, > > No problem. Hey, the funny thing is that I didn't know what OS he was > running either. As I was writing, I glanced back to his original message > and saw W2K... kinda weird that we both missed that on our first read. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Brian Genisio > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:18 PM > > To: Harold Hunt; Jean-Marc Paulin; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: RE: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? > > > > > > Appologies... This is something I knew, but worded my statement > > wrong. At the > > time, I did not know the OS, or how he was starting the X server > > (could have > > been command line)... My statement was more to explain that the > -engine 1 > > option should not have been used.... One of those "I knew what I meant" > > statements... > > > > Anyways, sorry... not good at getting my point across. > > B > > > > > > --- Harold Hunt wrote: > > > Brian, > > > > > > > Make sure you are running engine 4. > > > > > > That is somewhat misleading advice. There is code in the server that > > > detects which engines types are supported. Engine 4, the best > > performing > > > engine, is used whenever it is supported. Thus, to tell the > user to use > > > engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase. > > Jean-Marc has > > > Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin > > will always > > > use engine 4 on his system. > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > > http://auctions.yahoo.com > From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jan 29 12:30:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:30:00 -0000 Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta In-Reply-To: <200201281534.g0SFYC017345@jeeves.brpj.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Nigel Hathaway wrote: > The **REAL** answer to your question is found in the mail archives. > > See "Re: xmodmap, xkb and XF86Config" by Laurent Pinchart dated Wed, 24 > Oct 2001 17:25:56 +0200. > > To answer the "what happens if..." below: the answer is it crashes with a > horrible error message, which translated means "Please develop me more. I > don't feel comfortable under Windows." Have you set /tmp to binary mount? The server otherwise reads the files generated by xkbcomp in a different way and may crash. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 23:55:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 23:55:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020129202641.28077.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Jean, So you said earlier that you were running ICE Window manager... Did you compile (or acquire binaries) for the most recent version of ICE? Have you tried twm instead? I am pretty sure that is packaged with the Cygwin/XFree binaries. I know twm is much smaller and less complex than ICE. If it is not, do a quick search through /usr/X11R6/bin for *wm*, and try to run one of the window managers you already have. Possibly ICE is the problem? Just a thought, Brian --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Brian, > > > Make sure you are running engine 4. > > That is somewhat misleading advice. There is code in the server that > detects which engines types are supported. Engine 4, the best performing > engine, is used whenever it is supported. Thus, to tell the user to use > engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase. Jean-Marc has > Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin will always > use engine 4 on his system. > > Harold > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jan 30 00:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 00:35:00 -0000 Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ? In-Reply-To: <20020129202641.28077.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Brian, > So you said earlier that you were running ICE Window manager... > Did you compile > (or acquire binaries) for the most recent version of ICE? Have > you tried twm > instead? I am pretty sure that is packaged with the Cygwin/XFree > binaries. I > know twm is much smaller and less complex than ICE. If it is > not, do a quick > search through /usr/X11R6/bin for *wm*, and try to run one of the window > managers you already have. Possibly ICE is the problem? Now that is an excellent idea :) Harold From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Wed Jan 30 02:20:00 2002 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 02:20:00 -0000 Subject: Use of font server on another machine Message-ID: <3C57A6FD.E217EA81@imec.be> Hello, Can I use a font server on another (linux) machine in cygwin XFree 4.2.0 ? I read the command line options but didn't find anything appropriate. I also tried 'xset +fp pc120:7100' but this also failed with a bad directory error. Staf. From jbertran@cirsa.com Wed Jan 30 04:45:00 2002 From: jbertran@cirsa.com (Joan Bertran) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 04:45:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients In-Reply-To: Message-ID: From Linux machine running XFree86 4.1.0 or 3.3.6 HPP boxes work properly, I think that mounts are correct as I don't have any problems reading SecurityPolicy file or rgb.txt (though i had to change them by linux versions without CR-LF) Also the cygwin-Xfree86 (4.2.0) doesn't process the third mouse button depending on which mouse driver you have on NT4 (emulate3buttons always works). The mouse is a 3 button Logitech and the logitech drivers changes the behaviour even with windows programs like Netscape 6.2.1, with the standard PS/2 the third button is correct. The bad news is that this doesn't solve the problem with HP boxes ---------------- Notes: My stripped down installation looks like C:. +---bin +---etc ? +---X11 +---tmp ? +---.X11-unix +---usr +---X11R6 +---bin ? +---401 +---lib +---X11 +---fonts ? +---100dpi ? +---75dpi ? +---CID ? +---local ? +---misc ? +---Speedo ? +---Type1 ? +---util +---xserver +---xsm ----- Command line START "XFree86" /B XWin420 -ac +kb -xkbmap %XKEYBOARD% -query %1 -wm -fullscreen\ -dpi 100 -once -unixkill -nowinkill -class HCLpcXserver -emulate3buttons (with bc parameter HP is the same) ------ XWin.log ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowDD () - Not changing video mode winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning -------------------------------- > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Enviado el: martes 29 de enero de 2002 18:02 > Para: Joan Bertran; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Asunto: RE: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients > > > > > > > Try this: > > From Linux machine running XFree86 4.1.0 or XFree86 4.2.0, see > how remote X > Clients running on your HP boxes work. > > Interpretation of results: > > 1) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86 > 4.1.0/4.2.0 then the problem has to do with XFree86 and its underlying > libraries (but has nothing to do with the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server). This > does not mean there is a bug in XFree86. It could be that Xlib from HP-UX > is known not to be compatible with the X standard (that's the way it is > with > Sun's Xlib, I believe). In this case, your best bet is either to search > for > an updated X Window System from HP, or to install XFree86 for HP-UX (I > believe it exists). > > 2) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86 4.0.1, > then there may be some sort of compile time error being built into > Cygwin/XFree86's libraries, or perhaps you've got an issue with > binary/text > mounts on your Cygwin installation (I'm not certain that could affect the > mouse in X). > > > So, go forth and test! :) > > Harold > > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jan 30 08:05:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: Use of font server on another machine In-Reply-To: <3C57A6FD.E217EA81@imec.be> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote: > Hello, > > Can I use a font server on another (linux) machine in cygwin XFree 4.2.0 ? > I read the command line options but didn't find anything appropriate. > I also tried 'xset +fp pc120:7100' but this also failed with a bad directory > error. you can set the fontpath at the start of the Xserver by adding the switch -fp tcp/pc120:7100 or via xset +fp tcp/pc120:7100 bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From earnie_boyd@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 09:52:00 2002 From: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com (Earnie Boyd) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:52:00 -0000 Subject: gnuplot problem under Xfree86 References: Message-ID: <3C57EA9B.255D208F@yahoo.com> Wrong list!! jtorres@onsager.ugr.es wrote: > > I just compiled gnuplot-3.7 from source files for > cygwin under Xfree86. Every thing was running fine > for a postscript terminal, but it fails for a > X11 terminal, for instance plotted lines fall outside > the graph viewport and the screen appear filled of > a red surface. Anybody knows what is going on? > > Joaquin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From hainesr7@hotmail.com Thu Jan 31 05:07:00 2002 From: hainesr7@hotmail.com (Rob Haines) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 05:07:00 -0000 Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' References: Message-ID: Harold, Tzafrir, Group, The key to this problem seems to be in transfering the "magic cookie" from the old user-id to the new user-id. The link you provided, Harold, (http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html) was useful but unfortunately did not hold the solution. I tried the script in section 7 on the off chance but I got the same behaviour. Tzafrir's hint did yield some joy though: I googled for every combination of the letters s, u and x and found a little script called "sux": http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/sux-readme.shtml. This seems to work: 'sux root xcalc' will bring xcalc up on my desktop - cool. The only problem is that this doesn't fork so I've lost that shell until I close xcalc. 'sux root 'xcalc &'' returns an error: "env: xcalc &: No such file or directory". Pity. I though that would work. 'sux root xcalc &' is a disaster, because when you type the root password it appears in plain text and then the following error is returned: "bash: : command not found". If I could get this to fork it would be a bonus, but it doesn't really matter because I don't need it often (and anyway it might be best not to be able to leave root's windows open indefinately, having to close them to get my shell back might be a Good Thing). The other concern of mine was whether the X stuff is still being sent through ssh or whether it's now coming down an unsecure connection. It's beyond my knowledge to know either way! I hope this helps someone else. Thanks for all your help, Robert Haines. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Robert Haines" ; "Tzafrir Cohen" Cc: "cygx" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: RE: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' > Robert, > > I found a document that may be of help: > Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO (http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html) > > In particular, the section called "X Applications from Another User-id" may > be useful: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-7.html > > That should explain some related difficulties, even though you are using > ssh... > > Harold > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Haines [mailto:hainesr7@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:09 AM > > To: Tzafrir Cohen; Harold Hunt > > Cc: cygx > > Subject: Re: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su' > > > > > > > > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I > > hope > > > > > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check > > the archives > > and > > > > > didn't find anything pertinent. > > > > > > > > > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) > > and have the > > > > > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as > > myself > > > > > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run > > > > > something > > > > > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just > > > > > started is > > > > > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the > > > > > putty/exceed > > > > > > > Thanks for your responses guys. I have now had chance to do a little > > research using a Linux box in place of my Cygwin/XFree box and the end > > result is the same. Once I have su'd I can't expect X forwarding to work. > > Now I think about it, this is hardly strange. The only difference in the > > whole process was that I did actually get an error when using two Linux > > boxes and the task was terminated, unlike on the Cygwin/XFree > > setup where no > > error was received and the task simply went to sleep. > > > > Now I know that this is normal behaviour, I'll not try it again :-) > > > > Thanks again, > > Robert Haines. > > > > From szydek@uiuc.edu Thu Jan 31 05:09:00 2002 From: szydek@uiuc.edu (Steven T. Zydek) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: All text being echoed in Xterms Message-ID: <20020130115220.C9338@uiuc.edu> Hi There, I'm a newbie to Cygwin/XFree. I just installed Cygwin 1.3.7/Xfree v4.2 on my sunpci card (basically, an Intel-based motherboard w/AMD processor running in a Sun box) running WinNT 4.0. All the software has installed perfectly. I can start up bash shells within Cygwin just fine, X starts up without any error messages (using the default startx scripts) and xterms/xclock appear fine. My trouble is that anytime I try to type (enter commands) in an xterm, all text gets echoed twice. So, if I type: 'ls -al[ENTER]' , I get the following spewed back: llss --aall [CR] [CR] me@machine bash> me@machine bash> --- I tried to determine whether it's Xwin or the xterm. (NOTE: the Cygwin shells do NOT have this problem). From what I can tell it is Xwin causing the problem. I was able to display a remote xterm window from a Sun box and had the same trouble where everything was echoed. I checked newsgroups, faqs, web, etc. and no luck. Any ideas? Thanks for any help you could provide! Thanks, +Steve From rlounsbury@progeny.net Thu Jan 31 08:57:00 2002 From: rlounsbury@progeny.net (Ron Lounsbury) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:57:00 -0000 Subject: Virus reported when downloadig xfnts.tgz Message-ID: <000401c1aa58$409a9100$490210ac@PSC0525> When I was downloading the file xfnts.tgz, my McAfee virus scan reported an unnamed virus in the file. I have Virus Scan version 4.50, with definitions file 4.0.4180 (dated 1/9/02) and scan engine 4.1.60. Is this a real virus, or just a mistake on McAfee's part? Thank you Ron Lounsbury rlounsbury@progeny.net From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jan 31 12:58:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:58:00 -0000 Subject: Virus reported when downloadig xfnts.tgz Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26832E9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> There is no virus in xfnts.tgz as far as I know. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Lounsbury [mailto:rlounsbury@progeny.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:08 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Virus reported when downloadig xfnts.tgz > > > When I was downloading the file xfnts.tgz, my McAfee virus > scan reported an unnamed virus in the file. I have Virus > Scan version 4.50, with definitions file 4.0.4180 (dated > 1/9/02) and scan engine 4.1.60. 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But if it makes you feel better you can reply to this email with Remove in the subject line. From phil@dmillard.com Thu Jan 31 16:45:00 2002 From: phil@dmillard.com (Phil Humpherys) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:45:00 -0000 Subject: image viewer? Message-ID: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com> I'd sure like to have an image viewer of some kind in cygwin-xfree. I couldn't get xv to compile... anyone have any suggestions? From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Jan 31 17:14:00 2002 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:14:00 -0000 Subject: image viewer? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26832F0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> You can use ImageMagick. It compiles out of the box under Cygwin/Xfree. It is a real good one too. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Humpherys [mailto:phil@dmillard.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:02 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: image viewer? > > > I'd sure like to have an image viewer of some kind in > cygwin-xfree. I couldn't get xv to compile... anyone have > any suggestions? > From mielikki1@subdimension.com Thu Jan 31 18:12:00 2002 From: mielikki1@subdimension.com (mielikki1) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server) Message-ID: <3c59f37f.6802.1804289383@subdimension.com> I just installed cygwin (version 2.125.2.10) and xfree (4.2.0) and have run into a problem. It seems to work okay locally (that is I can start the server and launch new clients from my xterm window whether DISPLAY is set to 127.0.0.0:0 or my real IP address), but when I try to start a client on a remote Red Hat Linux machine (over the Internet or through a VPN) I get the following error: Xlib: connection to "x.y.z.t:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: x.y.z.t:0.0 I am running Windows ME and Zone Alarm. I get the same problem if I turn Zone Alarm down to Low or even shut it down. I can ping my Windows machine from the Linux box. I couldn't find anything searching the archives here and various Web engines. Any thoughts? Any tests to try to narrow it down? I guess I'll figure out what ports the X server is listening on and see if I can connect to them... _____________________________________________________________________ // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com From mielikki1@subdimension.com Thu Jan 31 19:45:00 2002 From: mielikki1@subdimension.com (mielikki1) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:45:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server) Message-ID: <3c59fa28.af8.1804289383@subdimension.com> I noticed this. I don't know why norton antivirus is doing this (or even what it is doing). I also don't know if this is the problem. I have NAV's e-mail checking turned off. I even disabled "auto-protect" and it still is doing something with the ports. C:\WINDOWS>netstat -a Active Connections Proto Local Address Foreign Address State TCP myhost1:6000 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP myhost1:5000 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP myhost1:4341 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP myhost1:4343 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP myhost1:1088 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP myhost1:1090 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP myhost1:4953 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP myhost1:6000 pop3.norton.antivirus:4341 ESTABLISHED TCP maxwell:6000 pop3.norton.antivirus:4343 ESTABLISHED TCP myhost1:4341 pop3.norton.antivirus:6000 ESTABLISHED TCP myhost1:4343 pop3.norton.antivirus:6000 ESTABLISHED TCP myhost1:4345 pop3.norton.antivirus:6000 TIME_WAIT TCP myhost1:4347 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING UDP myhost1:1900 *:* > I just installed cygwin (version 2.125.2.10) and xfree > (4.2.0) and have run into a problem. It seems to work okay > locally (that is I can start the server and launch new > clients from my xterm window whether DISPLAY is set to > 127.0.0.0:0 or my real IP address), but when I try to > start a client on a remote Red Hat Linux machine (over > the Internet or through a VPN) I get the following > error: > > Xlib: connection to "x.y.z.t:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > Error: Can't open display: x.y.z.t:0.0 > > I am running Windows ME and Zone Alarm. I get the same > problem if I turn Zone Alarm down to Low or even shut it > down. I can ping my Windows machine from the Linux box. > > I couldn't find anything searching the archives here and > various Web engines. > > Any thoughts? Any tests to try to narrow it down? I guess > I'll figure out what ports the X server is listening on > and see if I can connect to them... _____________________________________________________________________ // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jan 31 20:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:05:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server) In-Reply-To: <3c59f37f.6802.1804289383@subdimension.com> Message-ID: Were you following the instructions at: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html If not, follow them and see what happens. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of mielikki1 > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:47 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server) > > > I just installed cygwin (version 2.125.2.10) and xfree > (4.2.0) and have run into a problem. It seems to work okay > locally (that is I can start the server and launch new > clients from my xterm window whether DISPLAY is set to > 127.0.0.0:0 or my real IP address), but when I try to start > a client on a remote Red Hat Linux machine (over the > Internet or through a VPN) I get the following error: > > Xlib: connection to "x.y.z.t:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > Error: Can't open display: x.y.z.t:0.0 > > I am running Windows ME and Zone Alarm. I get the same > problem if I turn Zone Alarm down to Low or even shut it > down. I can ping my Windows machine from the Linux box. > > I couldn't find anything searching the archives here and > various Web engines. > > Any thoughts? Any tests to try to narrow it down? I guess > I'll figure out what ports the X server is listening on and > see if I can connect to them... > _____________________________________________________________________ > // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing > subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com