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These are the messages I got: %% DPS Client Library Warning: Auto-launching DPS NX agent. %% DPS Client Library Warning: FAILED to auto-launch: dpsnx.agent texteroids: DPS is not available. You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. Wonder if anyone could help? Zechy From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Jun 2 02:43:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 02:43:00 -0000 Subject: -xkbmap parameter not working? In-Reply-To: <20020531091108.B27761@klaki.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 31 May 2002, Hrafnkell Eir?ksson wrote: > Hi > > I can't get the -xkbmap parameter to work. I want to use it to > set the keyboard layout to Icelandic. Issuing "setxkbmap is" from > a shell after I log in works (though I have to issue it twice for > some reason). 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You have to compile a keymap. xkbcomp -xkm -m is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/is.xkm then XWin -xkbmap is bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From munir@amanjordan.org Sun Jun 2 03:10:00 2002 From: munir@amanjordan.org (Munir - Aman) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 03:10:00 -0000 Subject: Arab Women Message-ID: <200206021009.g52A9LB23494@mail.nets1.com.jo> Aman News Center in Arabic http://www.amanjordan.org/arabic_news/ Aman News Center in English http://www.amanjordan.org/english/daily_news/index.php Aman Main Page in Arabic http://www.amanjordan.org/index1.htm Aman Main Page in English http://www.amanjordan.org/english/index.htm The Arab Regional Resource Center on Violence against Women (AMAN) located in Amman / JORDAN From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 03:32:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 03:32:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <000b01c20a0b$9d4ecb60$b914a6ca@pc185> References: <000b01c20a0b$9d4ecb60$b914a6ca@pc185> Message-ID: <20020602103218.GB1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > FAILED to auto-launch: > dpsnx.agent > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > Wonder if anyone could help? That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. Alan. From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 06:10:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:10:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602103218.GB1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Ummm, Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line that says: -initial DPS extension support If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the cygwin distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to build it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to your xfree. In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. Cheers, Nicholas --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > dpsnx.agent > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > Alan. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 06:36:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:36:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602103218.GB1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602133557.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Ummm, Excuse me, but you are wrong.... The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That means server side support. There is however client side support. What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and uses our client side libraries. As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should be removed. Alan. On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Ummm, > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line that > says: > -initial DPS extension support > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the cygwin > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to build > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to your > xfree. > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > Alan. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 06:42:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:42:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602134253.20325.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Ok, I forgot the fact that building libdps depends on "strict motif" or gtk libs, the former not being "open source" (nor legally available for windows) and the latter still being ported to cygwin by Harold. I apologize for the minor confusion, as I was still thinking in "linux mode". For the curious, please check out: http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/dps.html http://dps.sourceforge.net/ --> Show actual textroids screenshot in linux http://www.gyve.org/gtkDPS/ I do have some commentary regarding the so-called "Open Group". There is nothing that pisses me of more then that oxymoron of a name. Yet another example of academic innovation being commericialized for corporate greed and profit (The last time I checked MIT did recieve government subsidies). Personally I feel like giving the "Open Group" the finger by porting the motif sources to cygwin and providing to all interested for download. Lets face it, lesstif is nice, but it is still not there yet in terms of full compatibility. Frankly, the excuses used to classify cygwin as a non-open source platform are splitting hairs in my opinion. But, again, these are my opinions and you are free to disagree. I just felt I needed to release some steam about this pet peeve of mine. Cheers, Nicholas --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Ummm, > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > that > says: > -initial DPS extension support > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > cygwin > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > build > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > your > xfree. > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > Alan. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 06:52:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602134253.20325.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> <20020602134253.20325.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602135241.GF1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Huh ? libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the 4.1.0 RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net provides an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our baseline tree. What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. Alan. On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:42:53AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Ok, > > I forgot the fact that building libdps depends on "strict motif" or gtk > libs, the former not being "open source" (nor legally available for > windows) and the latter still being ported to cygwin by Harold. I > apologize for the minor confusion, as I was still thinking in "linux > mode". For the curious, please check out: > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/dps.html > http://dps.sourceforge.net/ --> Show actual textroids screenshot in linux > http://www.gyve.org/gtkDPS/ > > > I do have some commentary regarding the so-called "Open Group". There is > nothing that pisses me of more then that oxymoron of a name. Yet another > example of academic innovation being commericialized for corporate greed > and profit (The last time I checked MIT did recieve government subsidies). > Personally I feel like giving the "Open Group" the finger by porting the > motif sources to cygwin and providing to all interested for download. > Lets face it, lesstif is nice, but it is still not there yet in terms of > full compatibility. Frankly, the excuses used to classify cygwin as a > non-open source platform are splitting hairs in my opinion. But, again, > these are my opinions and you are free to disagree. I just felt I needed > to release some steam about this pet peeve of mine. > > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Ummm, > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > > that > > says: > > -initial DPS extension support > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > > cygwin > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > > build > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > > your > > xfree. > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 06:52:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602133557.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602135231.75538.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Juliusz, Is what Alan saying true? Are there no plans to have a server side DPS extension officially in the xfree distribution? I noticed from the cvs activity that the libraries are still being maintained... Cheers, Nicholas --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > Ummm, > > Excuse me, but you are wrong.... > > The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That > means server side support. There is however client side support. > > What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and > it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. > > Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to > get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in > 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program > which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and > uses our client side libraries. > > As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an > awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should > be removed. > > Alan. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Ummm, > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > that > > says: > > -initial DPS extension support > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > cygwin > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold > can > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > build > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > your > > xfree. > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I > got: > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > Alan. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 06:56:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:56:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602135231.75538.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602133557.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602135231.75538.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602135604.GG1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Nicholas, There currently exists NO server side support in the current XFree86 CVS. Juliusz may have every intention of moving the code from dps.sourceforge.net into the baseline XFree86 CVS at some point in the future. But currently it ain't there. Probably because, as far as the webpage is concerned, it still claims it's pre-alpha stage. And it even mentions that your better off running dgs if your seriously needing DPS support. Alan. On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:52:31AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Juliusz, > > Is what Alan saying true? Are there no plans to have a server side DPS > extension officially in the xfree distribution? I noticed from the cvs > activity that the libraries are still being maintained... > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Ummm, > > > > Excuse me, but you are wrong.... > > > > The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That > > means server side support. There is however client side support. > > > > What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and > > it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. > > > > Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to > > get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in > > 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program > > which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and > > uses our client side libraries. > > > > As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an > > awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should > > be removed. > > > > Alan. > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > Ummm, > > > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > > that > > > says: > > > -initial DPS extension support > > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > > cygwin > > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold > > can > > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > > build > > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > > your > > > xfree. > > > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Nicholas > > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I > > got: > > > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 07:03:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:03:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602135241.GF1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602140354.21985.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > Huh ? > > libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, > in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. > It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. Yes you are right for the core library, but some additional widgets included in addon library require motif: The source code for libdpstkXm is included with XFree86; however, as it depends on Motif, this library is not built by default. Sorry for the confusion. > There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the 4.1.0 > RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net provides > an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our > baseline tree. So the release notes are wrong, I wrote this letter before I received your clarification on that... > What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? > > You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. Why am I ranting? Because it is highly annoying that they have forbidden using "OpenMotif" on Cygwin/XFree86 when they know full well that Cygwin/XFree86 is NOT Microsoft Windows, but a platform of its own that happens to run on top of MS Windows. In any event, if you followed the list, some other porting projects have been hindered by the lack of OpenMotif or full Lesstif->Motif compatibility. As I said you can disagree, but it is relevant to the project. I mean pressure needs to be put on the so-called "Open Group" to change that policy. Cheers, Nicholas > Alan. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:42:53AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Ok, > > > > I forgot the fact that building libdps depends on "strict motif" or > gtk > > libs, the former not being "open source" (nor legally available for > > windows) and the latter still being ported to cygwin by Harold. I > > apologize for the minor confusion, as I was still thinking in "linux > > mode". For the curious, please check out: > > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/dps.html > > http://dps.sourceforge.net/ --> Show actual textroids screenshot in > linux > > http://www.gyve.org/gtkDPS/ > > > > > > I do have some commentary regarding the so-called "Open Group". There > is > > nothing that pisses me of more then that oxymoron of a name. Yet > another > > example of academic innovation being commericialized for corporate > greed > > and profit (The last time I checked MIT did recieve government > subsidies). > > Personally I feel like giving the "Open Group" the finger by porting > the > > motif sources to cygwin and providing to all interested for download. > > Lets face it, lesstif is nice, but it is still not there yet in terms > of > > full compatibility. Frankly, the excuses used to classify cygwin as a > > non-open source platform are splitting hairs in my opinion. But, > again, > > these are my opinions and you are free to disagree. I just felt I > needed > > to release some steam about this pet peeve of mine. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > Ummm, > > > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > > > that > > > says: > > > -initial DPS extension support > > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > > > cygwin > > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold > can > > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > > > build > > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in > to > > > your > > > xfree. > > > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Nicholas > > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I > got: > > > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open > source > > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 07:10:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602140354.21985.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602135241.GF1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602140354.21985.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602141007.GI1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:03:54AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Huh ? > > > > libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, > > in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. > > It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. > Yes you are right for the core library, but some additional widgets > included in addon library require motif: > > The source code for libdpstkXm is included with XFree86; however, as it > depends on Motif, this library is not built by default. > > Sorry for the confusion. Right. And that's why I'm saying it doesn't depend on them. If you have them available fine. > > There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the 4.1.0 > > RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net provides > > an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our > > baseline tree. > So the release notes are wrong, I wrote this letter before I received your > clarification on that... > > > What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? > > > > You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. > > Why am I ranting? Because it is highly annoying that they have forbidden > using "OpenMotif" on Cygwin/XFree86 when they know full well that > Cygwin/XFree86 is NOT Microsoft Windows, but a platform of its own that > happens to run on top of MS Windows. In any event, if you followed the > list, some other porting projects have been hindered by the lack of > OpenMotif or full Lesstif->Motif compatibility. As I said you can > disagree, but it is relevant to the project. I mean pressure needs to be > put on the so-called "Open Group" to change that policy. Huh again. Where did I say I was disagreeing with you. And why don't you think I follow this list ? I've been on this list for quite some time. If you have some bitching to do about "The Open Group" that bitch at them. We already know the problems we've got here, or help improve LessTif which is certainly more productive. Alan. From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 07:13:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:13:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602135604.GG1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Alan, I realize this point, but in light of recent debate, I wanted to submit an inquiry to be updated on the status of his project, and any future plans. This might be relevent to the list, as it was the whole purpose of the initial question. Which, by the way, has caused you to rethink your stance. The whole reason I became so impassioned is because you told the person "It is not open source so we don't have it... Tough". I think you can be a little more diplomatic or at least do a 10 second google search, like I did, before replying in such a caustic way. I may have messed up on a few minor facts and was misled by inaccurate documentation, but at least we "may" have helped this person find a solution. And for that, all this discussion was worth it. Cheers, Nicholas --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > Nicholas, > > There currently exists NO server side support in the current XFree86 > CVS. Juliusz may have every intention of moving the code from > dps.sourceforge.net into the baseline XFree86 CVS at some point > in the future. But currently it ain't there. Probably because, > as far as the webpage is concerned, it still claims it's pre-alpha > stage. And it even mentions that your better off running dgs if > your seriously needing DPS support. > > Alan. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:52:31AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Juliusz, > > > > Is what Alan saying true? Are there no plans to have a server side > DPS > > extension officially in the xfree distribution? I noticed from the > cvs > > activity that the libraries are still being maintained... > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > Ummm, > > > > > > Excuse me, but you are wrong.... > > > > > > The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That > > > means server side support. There is however client side support. > > > > > > What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and > > > it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. > > > > > > Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to > > > get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in > > > 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program > > > which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and > > > uses our client side libraries. > > > > > > As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an > > > awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should > > > be removed. > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > > Ummm, > > > > > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the > line > > > that > > > > says: > > > > -initial DPS extension support > > > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in > the > > > cygwin > > > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure > harold > > > can > > > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt > to > > > build > > > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in > to > > > your > > > > xfree. > > > > > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, > IIRC. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Nicholas > > > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages > I > > > got: > > > > > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX > agent. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open > source > > > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 07:18:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:18:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602135604.GG1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602141757.GJ1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:13:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Alan, > > I realize this point, but in light of recent debate, I wanted to submit an > inquiry to be updated on the status of his project, and any future plans. > This might be relevent to the list, as it was the whole purpose of the > initial question. Which, by the way, has caused you to rethink your > stance. The whole reason I became so impassioned is because you told the > person "It is not open source so we don't have it... Tough". I think you > can be a little more diplomatic or at least do a 10 second google search, > like I did, before replying in such a caustic way. I may have messed up > on a few minor facts and was misled by inaccurate documentation, but at > least we "may" have helped this person find a solution. And for that, all > this discussion was worth it. Then I apologize to Zechy for misleading him into thinking there wasn't a solution. But as for server side extension - I still don't change my stance. Alan. From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 07:33:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602141007.GI1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602143311.24464.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:03:54AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > Huh ? > > > > > > libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, > > > in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. > > > It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. > > Yes you are right for the core library, but some additional widgets > > included in addon library require motif: > > > > The source code for libdpstkXm is included with XFree86; however, as > it > > depends on Motif, this library is not built by default. > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > Right. And that's why I'm saying it doesn't depend on them. If you > have them available fine. > > > > There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the > 4.1.0 > > > RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net > provides > > > an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our > > > baseline tree. > > So the release notes are wrong, I wrote this letter before I received > your > > clarification on that... > > > > > What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? > > > > > > You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. > > > > Why am I ranting? Because it is highly annoying that they have > forbidden > > using "OpenMotif" on Cygwin/XFree86 when they know full well that > > Cygwin/XFree86 is NOT Microsoft Windows, but a platform of its own > that > > happens to run on top of MS Windows. In any event, if you followed > the > > list, some other porting projects have been hindered by the lack of > > OpenMotif or full Lesstif->Motif compatibility. As I said you can > > disagree, but it is relevant to the project. I mean pressure needs to > be > > put on the so-called "Open Group" to change that policy. > > Huh again. Where did I say I was disagreeing with you. And why don't > you think I follow this list ? I've been on this list for quite some > time. I'm not saying you disagreed, I was responding to your claim that this is an irrelevant discussion. > If you have some bitching to do about "The Open Group" that bitch at > them. We already know the problems we've got here, or help improve > LessTif which is certainly more productive. This is your opinion, and you are welcome to it. The whole point of the rant was to let off steam and to encourage others to become aware of this issue (not everyone has been on the list as long as you, including me, and not everyone reads the entire archive start to finish). Well, why don't search the archives for motif? Again I say, many do not realize that having OpenMotif on cygwin is a good thing and would possible make porting OpenDX much easier. This list id for discussion, and I was merely giving my opinion. However, I say now to others who might read this: Whip off a quick e-mail to the open group and let them know that how you feel regarding their "decision" on OpenMotif. As to why I don't help the lesstif project? I'm afraid I don't have the skills for that (I was being sarcastic when I said I would port OpenMotif to cygwin). I do have the skills for discussing issues and raising awareness... I hoped that, in some small way, my little rant did this. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 07:52:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:52:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602141757.GJ1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602145223.22264.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:13:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Alan, > > > > I realize this point, but in light of recent debate, I wanted to > submit an > > inquiry to be updated on the status of his project, and any future > plans. > > This might be relevent to the list, as it was the whole purpose of the > > initial question. Which, by the way, has caused you to rethink your > > stance. The whole reason I became so impassioned is because you told > the > > person "It is not open source so we don't have it... Tough". I think > you > > can be a little more diplomatic or at least do a 10 second google > search, > > like I did, before replying in such a caustic way. I may have messed > up > > on a few minor facts and was misled by inaccurate documentation, but > at > > least we "may" have helped this person find a solution. And for that, > all > > this discussion was worth it. > > Then I apologize to Zechy for misleading him into thinking there > wasn't a solution. But as for server side extension - I still don't > change my stance. I apologize, too. I didn't get my morning coffee yet and I was a bit grumpy. All better now =]. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 2 14:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 14:40:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Diego, Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. There are a few hundred subscribers and not all of them want to receive such huge emails. It also puts an unnecessary burden on the mailing list server. In the future please mail a link to the package or post a message asking for someone to contact you privately to arrange a transfer of the package to a public web/ftp server. Thanks, Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Diego Duarte Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:43 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: AmiWM Port >Title: AmiWM 0.20-pl48 >Url: http://www.megaservice.host.sk/AmiWM-0.20pl48-cygwin.tar.gz >Type: Software >Author: Diego Duarte >Email: sunossolaris@hotmail.com >Date: 2002-05-30 >Text: The WorkBench WM ( AmigaPC) ( very very, smaller, (145kb )) From cgf@redhat.com Sun Jun 2 18:35:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 18:35:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently 100K. cgf On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing >list. From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 2 20:37:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:37:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This messages from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so and I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than 50 KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 KB. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently 100K. > > cgf > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing > >list. From cgf@redhat.com Sun Jun 2 20:39:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:39:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: References: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020603033948.GA8991@redhat.com> Heh. Actually I set it to 100K after the referenced message came in. 100K is standard for some of the other mailing lists on sourceware.org. I can't think of a good reason for having that large a message size in a discussion list, though. cgf On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:37:28PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This messages >from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: >http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html > >I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so and >I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than 50 >KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 KB. > >Thanks, > >Harold > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor >> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >> Subject: Re: AmiWM Port >> >> >> Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently 100K. >> >> cgf >> >> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >> >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing >> >list. From cgf@redhat.com Sun Jun 2 20:40:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:40:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: References: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020603034055.GB8991@redhat.com> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:37:28PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so >and I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger >than 50 KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped >to 50 KB. Oops. Sorry. Forgot to say: "Done". cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 2 20:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:44:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: <20020603034055.GB8991@redhat.com> Message-ID: Cool. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 11:41 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:37:28PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > >I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so > >and I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger > >than 50 KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped > >to 50 KB. > > Oops. Sorry. Forgot to say: "Done". > > cgf From jch@pps.jussieu.fr Sun Jun 2 23:21:00 2002 From: jch@pps.jussieu.fr (Juliusz Chroboczek) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 23:21:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> (message from Nicholas Wourms on Sun, 2 Jun 2002 07:13:35 -0700 (PDT)) References: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200206030621.g536LXG59103@helium.pps.jussieu.fr> Dear Nicholas, dear Alan, dear all, The server-side DPS code is not part of XFree86 and will most probably never be. There are two reasons to that. One is fundamental. The server-side DPS code uses the Aladdin Ghostscript interpreter version 6.02, which is not Free software. The plan was to update it to use GNU Ghostscript 6.50, which is Free software, but uses a license (the GPL) which makes it unsuitable for inclusion in XFree86. The other reason is that the code has a bug. I spent three months of hard work trying to track it down, and then decided that life is too short. In short, the interpreter corrupts memory at some point, which later causes the server to crash. If anybody feels like trying to trace it down (something that would make me extremely happy): it is reproducible with GNUstep's benchmarking code. It is also reproducible in any program that uses the NeXT transparency extensions. As long as this bug remains, it is impossible to even think of relying on the DPS extension. With most sincere regards, Juliusz From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Mon Jun 3 00:03:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 00:03:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't launch xterms Message-ID: I'm afraid not. I tried that, I put an error in twmrc, called the menu item, nothing seemed to happen, no output in XWin.log. I wonder where it went. Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:nwourms@yahoo.com] Sent: vrijdag 31 mei 2002 16:47 To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: RE: TWM menus don't launch xterms --- "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" wrote: > > Have you tried to start twm and capture its output? > > twm > /tmp/twm.out 2>/tmp/twm.err & > You can also check XWin.log in /tmp. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From nwourms@yahoo.com Mon Jun 3 04:26:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 04:26:00 -0000 Subject: logos (was RE: AmiWM Port) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020603112645.35303.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Harold, Sorry to rehash an old discussion, but I just discovered this thread when you mentioned it. I followed it through to conclusion, but it stopped as quickly as it started. Whatever happened to this discussion? Any chance of a new logo being adopted? I personally dislike the current cygwin logo, too. It's a bit bland if you ask me. Maybe it needs the redhat touch, but the logo that was attached to that message rocked. Any chance of adopting it? Cheers, Nicholas --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Chris, > > Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This > messages > from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html > > I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so > and > I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than > 50 > KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 > KB. > > Thanks, > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > > > > Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently > 100K. > > > > cgf > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 > mailing > > >list. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 3 04:54:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 04:54:00 -0000 Subject: logos (was RE: AmiWM Port) In-Reply-To: <20020603112645.35303.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nicholas, Creating a logo requires a bit of knowledge and initiative on the part of the logo creator. It is one thing to create nice 256 x 256 pixel true color mock-ups, but it is quite another to convert that into a 16 x 16 palettized color icon, a 32 x 32 palettized color icon, a 32 x 32 true color icon, a logo, etc. I don't even know what formats Windows needs. So basically nothing has come from it because we haven't been presented with something that looks good and can be used in icon formats as well. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:nwourms@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:27 AM > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: logos (was RE: AmiWM Port) > > > Harold, > > Sorry to rehash an old discussion, but I just discovered this thread when > you mentioned it. I followed it through to conclusion, but it stopped as > quickly as it started. Whatever happened to this discussion? Any chance > of a new logo being adopted? I personally dislike the current cygwin > logo, too. It's a bit bland if you ask me. Maybe it needs the redhat > touch, but the logo that was attached to that message rocked. Any chance > of adopting it? > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Harold Hunt wrote: > > Chris, > > > > Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This > > messages > > from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html > > > > I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so > > and > > I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than > > 50 > > KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 > > KB. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > > > > > > > Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently > > 100K. > > > > > > cgf > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 > > mailing > > > >list. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Tim.Steen@yellowcorp.com Mon Jun 3 08:17:00 2002 From: Tim.Steen@yellowcorp.com (Tim.Steen) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 08:17:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome 1.4/ntsec question? Message-ID: <4167A237EE5DD111BDCE00805FE633D6080583A0@yelntsmail1.yellowcorp.com> I have a fresh 1.3.10 install of cygwin on Win 2K SP1 w/NTFS. I created a user account using 'mkpasswd' and 'mkgroup' I downloaded current source and patches, and built gnome without errors as per instructions on Obrien's web site. I created a envir. variable 'cygwin=ntsec' using the system control panel app. Using 'startx' to start up a gnome-session I get the following errors. _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root ORBit-ERROR **: Wrong permissions for /tmp/orbit-y1tes aborting... I have searched the archives and and read the faq, but I am still missing something. Any Suggestions? Has anyone had similar problems or success with obrien's gnome patches? From keh112@york.ac.uk Mon Jun 3 08:32:00 2002 From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 08:32:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms In-Reply-To: <1023103610.13857.ezmlm@cygwin.com> Message-ID: I don't seem to have a /tmp/Xwin.log - is it hiding somewhere else or has nothing gone wrong (unlikely) -- Kirsty Hollingworth "The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers." Sydney J. Harris From flognat@flognat.myip.org Mon Jun 3 10:18:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: / Kirsty Hollingworth wrote: | I don't seem to have a /tmp/Xwin.log - is it hiding somewhere else or has | nothing gone wrong (unlikely) c:\cygdrive\tmp\Xwin.log? This should be created! Hmm is it so bad that it is not even the cygwin x-server firing up or similar?? Send me a screendump of the cygwin xfree-window how far it has come.. *remind me* did you use the latest stuff, do you have other x-servers? Rational Rose? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 3 12:23:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:23:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't launch xterms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > I'm afraid not. I tried that, I put an error in twmrc, called the menu > item, nothing seemed to happen, no output in XWin.log. I wonder where it > went. XWin.log only contains the log messages from the x-server. Try starting twm from a bash. You should see all messages from twm and the started programs. Or is twm compiled as gui without console? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From keh112@york.ac.uk Mon Jun 3 12:45:00 2002 From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:45:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms (long reply) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank-you so much for all your help. I have put in this email just about everything I can think of that might be worth you knowing. On 3 Jun 2002, Andrew Markebo wrote: > / Kirsty Hollingworth wrote: > | I don't seem to have a /tmp/Xwin.log - is it hiding somewhere else or has > | nothing gone wrong (unlikely) > > c:\cygdrive\tmp\Xwin.log? > > This should be created! It is not there - I tried creating an empty file called Xwin.log and it has ignored it. At startup I noticed that Xwin complains that /tmp should be owned by root. As my passwd file only contains an entry for myself chown fails. > > Hmm is it so bad that it is not even the cygwin x-server firing up or > similar?? Send me a screendump of the cygwin xfree-window how far it > has come.. > > *remind me* did you use the latest stuff, do you have other x-servers? > Rational Rose? > I installed cygwin/xfree in October and updated in December. It is rather difficult to update which is why it has been done infreqently (download to zip disk, zip disk to linux box, ftp across house network). It fires up fine and I have slightly modified the startxwin.bat to fire up a telnet to our linux box and a copy of xclock as well as the default xterm. The local xterm starts iconified as my usual use for X is as a display for apps on the linux box. The linux box does not run XDCMP and cygwin was installed on a virtually clean Win95 installation. If it does make a difference I required use of Octave which ignored my cygwin and installed its own, in the meantime messing up my cygwin settings (reset cygwinroot). Running the cygwin setup seemed to fix this - however the problem has been around before this, however I was too busy with work to attempt to fix it and put up with closing Xwin down and restarting it if I accidently killed my console window. THings run from this locally appear correctly. I usually (but not always) have windows cdplayer playing a cd. A quick list of what I have installed (off the top of my head): Norton Antivirus 2001 (from Norton SystemWorks) R (statistics package) Cygwin/Xfree Octave(currently disabled) Gnuplot (came with Octave) SPSS (statisics package) MS Excel and Powerpoint 97/2000 viewers Standard bundled MS stuff Some random things for burning CD's on my CD burner Winzip 8.0 (unregistered) Acrobat (4 or 5 can't remember) I possibly have a windows version of Ghostview. I am going to have to update my installation soon as I need a local version of LaTeX - when I do, do you think it is worth trying another window manager? As I mentioned to someone I quite like WindowMaker and was thinking of installing that but if the problem is not with twm I want to sort one problem first before I introduce ten more! As I said at the top thank you very much for helping me. -- Kirsty Hollingworth "The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers." Sydney J. Harris From flognat@flognat.myip.org Mon Jun 3 13:16:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 13:16:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms (long reply) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Evening! *bonk* regarding Xwin.log, it is created in newer versions of Xfree, quite a bit of work is done since x-mas, and nowadays it is installable from setup.exe. | zip disk, zip disk to linux box, ftp across house network). It fires up | fine and I have slightly modified the startxwin.bat to fire up a telnet to | our linux box and a copy of xclock as well as the default xterm. The | local xterm starts iconified as my usual use for X is as a display for | apps on the linux box. The linux box does not run XDCMP and cygwin was Okay, you can run x-applications on linux, and display them on your PC? Have you tried twm/any other window manager from the linux-box, to display them on your PC. Could be a cygwin limitation on win95 that the twm-binary needs, incompability in signalling or similar.. | As I said at the top thank you very much for helping me. Youre welcome ;-) The gentleman(?) in me does anything for the female beauty.. or.. yeah you know :-) /Andy p.s. I have always wondered if I would have helped a person with a male-like name this much.. to be honest.. probably, but just thinking of it for the fun of it :-) From ecognito1@earthcorp.com Mon Jun 3 16:09:00 2002 From: ecognito1@earthcorp.com (E) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:09:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering what the status was of using the cygwin xfree server in a multi-windowed mode (ie Opening a MS-Windows window for each X client window instead of a single window for the X desktop). I've browsed the FAQ, website, and did a few searches of the archives for this list, but couldn't find anything recent or definitive on the status of this feature. Thanks. E. From volkwein@ibk.baug.ethz.ch Wed Jun 5 05:45:00 2002 From: volkwein@ibk.baug.ethz.ch (Volkwein, Axel) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 05:45:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-Xfree86 remote on Solaris with Java3D/OpenGL Message-ID: Hello, I just discovered this amazing x-server for cygwin and immediately used it for everything. But just one thing is not working: I open a ssh/X-session to my solaris-8-workstation and run a program written in Java using the Java3D-Environment which is -as far as i know- written based on OpenGl. The application starts without any errormessage (Yippie) but does not show me the 3D-structure. Does anyone have a glue? Thank you in advance for an answer Axel From sb@dod.no Wed Jun 5 12:41:00 2002 From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 12:41:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Logon to RedHat 7.2 References: <001e01c1fc45$849c18d0$b4f952c7@ember> Message-ID: <87hekhbjji.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> >>>>> Alexander Gottwald : > Is access from nonlocal machine allowed? Some distributions install > xdm/kdm/gdm in a configuration where only local clients are allowed > to connect. I know that debian testing and RedHat 7.2 does this. My guess is that all distributions does this for security reasons. From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Wed Jun 5 14:00:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: Performance KDE 2.2.2 beta1 In-Reply-To: <3CEE1BFD.9C9DA813@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <010b01c20cd4$13c8c500$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > The startup of KDE takes more than a minute on my IBM Thinkpad. (using startkde.simple) How long does windows need to come up ? I have seen 10 minutes with many installed apps/services and full office installation on win2k. > How much of it can be expected to be faster with future releases (it does not find a lot of stuff > where expected) You should send more infos. General you find some infos on cygwin.kde.org/kde2.php Ralf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Wed Jun 5 15:24:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:24:00 -0000 Subject: significant delay in xinit detected In-Reply-To: <000b01c208be$3d381810$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <011301c20cdf$b8723d10$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi Harold, relating to the subject I've found some details: In xinit.c/startserver() I found the following comment /* * kludge to avoid race with TCP, giving server time to * set his socket options before we try to open it, * either use the 15 second timeout, or await SIGUSR1. * * If your machine is substantially slower than 15 seconds, * you can easily adjust this value. */ alarm (15); The problem is that if someone uses an .xserverrc file, which starts the xserver as a sub process, the signal SIGUSR1 never comes to xinit and xinit runs into the timeout. A solution for this is 1) avoid a sub shell in .xserverrc : $cat ~/.xserverrc exec X instead of $cat ~/.xserverrc X This is described in some older docus like http://www.stllinux.org/meeting_notes/1997/0619/startx.html or 2) adding the options in the server part of startx $ startx -- I've taken a look into the cygwin/xfree user guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting-startx and found nothing about this topic. What do you mean, should this not be added to the startx section (at least solution 1)? Regards Ralf > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ralf Habacker > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:14 PM > To: Kde-Cygwin; Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: RE: significant delay in xinit detected > > > > > while working with kde/cygwin and xfree/cygwin I recognized a significant > > timeout of xinit, after starting the x server and before starting the x > > client relevant stuff. It seems that xinit goes into a timeout while > > waiting for > > the X process, because the delay does not depend on how long the > xserver needs > > (I recognized this on a very fast machine, on which the xserver > only needs 1/2 > > second to start). xinit waits then 5 seconds before starting the .xinitrc > > script. > > Looking a little deeper into the source shows that the timeout is > about 15 sec, > not only 5, and it seems that xinit does not recognizes the running x process. > > Ralf > > From philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr Thu Jun 6 06:54:00 2002 From: philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr (Philippe Bastiani) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 06:54:00 -0000 Subject: Conflict between a terminal and the window manager Message-ID: <001801c20d61$b74fe310$84acf9c1@JUPITER> I noted the following problem: after an input of caracters in a terminal (rxvt or xterm), I cannot close this one any more properly: the window is not closed... In fact, after a 'close' command of fvwm2, the task manager of Windows shows that the process tcsh.exe (or bash.exe) is not destroyed... My config: - Windows XP - latest releases of cygwin, xfree, fvwm, rxvt, ... Philippe Bastiani PS: all my excuses but yesterday I sent this message in the wrong mailing list! From lhall@rfk.com Thu Jun 6 07:12:00 2002 From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:12:00 -0000 Subject: use CygWin/XFree in XDMCP under Windows 98 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020606100717.03772eb8@pop.ma.ultranet.com> At 05:33 AM 6/6/2002, EXT / EUREKA LE CUNFF Laurent wrote: >Hello, >I do not manage to make function CygWin/XFree in XDMCP under Windows 98. The >Xfree window appears with the grayed bottom but that does not go further. I >does not obtain the banner of login . >The same installation under Windows NT or 2000 functions very well. Does a >solution exist? Indeed, I cannot for certain reasons technique pass these >stations under NT or 2000? > >Thank you. Wrong list. Please review the available lists and their mandate at http://cygwin.com/lists.html before posting. I've redirected the discussion to the correct list. Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX From cgf-noreply@cygwin.com Thu Jun 6 07:49:00 2002 From: cgf-noreply@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: use cygwin/xfree in XDMCP under Windows 98 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020606144928.GH32424@redhat.com> Wrong mailing list. Redirected. On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:33:33AM +0200, EXT / EUREKA LE CUNFF Laurent wrote: >Hello, >I do not manage to make function CygWin/XFree in XDMCP under Windows 98. The >Xfree window appears with the grayed bottom but that does not go further. I >does not obtain the banner of login . >The same installation under Windows NT or 2000 functions very well. Does a >solution exist? Indeed, I cannot for certain reasons technique pass these >stations under NT or 2000? > >Thank you. > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr Thu Jun 6 11:54:00 2002 From: philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr (Philippe Bastiani) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:54:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? References: Message-ID: <001b01c20d8b$92124000$bc8ef8c1@JUPITER> Hi, Sorry for the delay of my reply... As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the mouse pointer is on those. Line n??2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. Line n??3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Harold Hunt" ?? : "Philippe Bastiani" ; "cygx" Envoy?? : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > Philippe, > > You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a heck > of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. > Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that show > a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. > > Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can > copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP with > Alt+PrintScreen. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM > > To: Cygwin > > Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non > > standard ! > > > > Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the > > mouse pointer is on these! > > > > Philippe Bastiani > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: toto.PNG Type: image/png Size: 22747 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 6 12:08:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:08:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Message-ID: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Philippe, Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. Harold Philippe Bastiani said: > Hi, > > Sorry for the delay of my reply... > > As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the mouse > pointer is on those. > > > Line n??2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. > Line n??3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "Harold Hunt" > ?? : "Philippe Bastiani" ; "cygx" > > Envoy?? : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 > Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > Philippe, > > > > You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a > heck > > of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. > > Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that > show > > a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. > > > > Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can > > copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP > with > > Alt+PrintScreen. > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani > > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM > > > To: Cygwin > > > Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non > > > standard ! > > > > > > Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the > > > mouse pointer is on these! > > > > > > Philippe Bastiani > > > > > > > From richard.campbell@air2web.com Thu Jun 6 12:59:00 2002 From: richard.campbell@air2web.com (Richard Campbell) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:59:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Message-ID: >Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a >mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that >Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. In the first column (cygwin/xfree86) there is a mouse cursor in the 2nd and 3rd shots...twm just kinda sucks that way (in the 2nd shot, look at the large x just above the "fermer" tool tip). -Richard Campbell. From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Jun 6 13:14:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? In-Reply-To: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020606201348.53078.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> People, For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. Thanks, Nicholas --- Harold L Hunt wrote: > Philippe, > > Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's > not a > mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that > Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. > > Harold > > Philippe Bastiani said: > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry for the delay of my reply... > > > > As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the > mouse > > pointer is on those. > > > > > > Line n??2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. > > Line n??3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, > > > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > > De : "Harold Hunt" > > ?? : "Philippe Bastiani" ; "cygx" > > > > Envoy?? : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 > > Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > Philippe, > > > > > > You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give > a > > heck > > > of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. > > > Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two > that > > show > > > a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. > > > > > > Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You > can > > > copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows > XP > > with > > > Alt+PrintScreen. > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Philippe > Bastiani > > > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM > > > > To: Cygwin > > > > Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen > seem non > > > > standard ! > > > > > > > > Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified > when the > > > > mouse pointer is on these! > > > > > > > > Philippe Bastiani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Thu Jun 6 14:22:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:22:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? References: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> <20020606201348.53078.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CFFD28F.8060202@ece.gatech.edu> Nicholas Wourms wrote: > People, > > For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of > us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. actually, bzip2 would probably not do a very good job compressing a png. (I said PROBABLY. No need to post 27 counterexamples). However, pngcrush would probably help. --Chuck From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 6 15:04:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:04:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? In-Reply-To: <000d01c20d98$34f840b0$afb0f8c1@JUPITER> Message-ID: Philippe forgot to cc the mailing list on this one. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Philippe Bastiani [mailto:philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr] > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:25 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > Hi, > > > Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? > There's not > a > > mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that > > Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. > > The 'Print Screen' command of WinXP hides the mouse pointer :) > Cygwin/XFree86 hides/unhides the cursor correctly :) > > a+ > > Philippe > > From jehan@bravobrava.com Thu Jun 6 17:04:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:04:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing Message-ID: <3CFFF884.5020309@bravobrava.com> Hi, I'm on Win2k SP5. I use XFree in fullscreen mode via the DOS batch file.In a specific case, XWin is never showing: 1. Launch XWin via the batch (didn't try via the sh script) in fullscreen mode 2. Before the XWin screen shows up, click on another window (this moves the focus from XWin to that window) 3. Notice that at some point the window you clicked on loses it's focus (blue titlebar becomes gray) 4. Notice that at the same time, the mouse cursor get centered on the screen (as XWin would have done) 5. Notice the X window never shows up and that no XWin button appears in the taskbar. 6. Open the task manager, XWin is running. result: there is no way to go in XWin (no taskbar button) nor any to close it (as opposed to kill it) I can reproduce this bug any time following those steps. Jehan From jehan_something@hotmail.com Thu Jun 6 17:12:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:12:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released Message-ID: <3CFFFA5E.4090204@hotmail.com> Hi again, I know that this bug has already been mentionned (April 18 from bkarnd) but there hasn't been much followup so I would like to know what is the status on it: 1. press and hold both shift at the same. 2. release one of them (lets call it shift1) 3. release the other one. 4. press a letter: notice that you get the capitalize version (or, if capslock is on, the lowercase one). 5. press and release shift1. 6. press a letter: now you get the correct case. Jehan From rrschulz@cris.com Thu Jun 6 18:37:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:37:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? In-Reply-To: <20020606201348.53078.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606183501.02079dc0@pop3.cris.com> At 13:13 2002-06-06, Nicholas Wourms wrote: >People, > >For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of >us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. > >Thanks, >Nicholas Nicholas, Witness: % bzip2 -k toto.PNG % ls -l toto.PNG toto.PNG.bz2 -rwxrwxrwx 1 Administ None 22747 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG* -rwxrwxrwx 1 Administ None 22450 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG.bz2 Less than 300 bytes save. More would be saved by appropriate trimming of quoted message bodies. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA From rrschulz@cris.com Thu Jun 6 18:42:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:42:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing In-Reply-To: <3CFFF884.5020309@bravobrava.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606184025.02222a78@pop3.cris.com> Jehan, Use ALT-Tab and you can get (back) to the full-screen X server window. Personally, I like this. The details of the comings and goings of the full-screen X window are perhaps not ideal, but it's nice that it goes away totally when it's not in front and that I really get the full extent of the monitor without any window frame / border and controls. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 17:04 2002-06-06, Jehan Bing wrote: >Hi, > >I'm on Win2k SP5. I use XFree in fullscreen mode via the DOS batch file.In >a specific case, XWin is never showing: > >1. Launch XWin via the batch (didn't try via the sh script) in fullscreen mode >2. Before the XWin screen shows up, click on another window (this moves >the focus from XWin to that window) > >3. Notice that at some point the window you clicked on loses it's focus >(blue titlebar becomes gray) >4. Notice that at the same time, the mouse cursor get centered on the >screen (as XWin would have done) >5. Notice the X window never shows up and that no XWin button appears in >the taskbar. >6. Open the task manager, XWin is running. > >result: there is no way to go in XWin (no taskbar button) nor any to close >it (as opposed to kill it) > >I can reproduce this bug any time following those steps. > > Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 6 19:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:00:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606184025.02222a78@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: Randall, Jehan is indeed talking about a real problem where XWin does not successfully register its window. The result is that there is no window entry on the taskbar and you cannot switch to the application via Alt+Tab. This is a bug and I appreciate the easily reproducible test case. I'll take a look at this. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Randall R Schulz > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 PM > To: Jehan Bing; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing > > > Jehan, > > Use ALT-Tab and you can get (back) to the full-screen X server window. > > Personally, I like this. The details of the comings and goings of the > full-screen X window are perhaps not ideal, but it's nice that it > goes away > totally when it's not in front and that I really get the full > extent of the > monitor without any window frame / border and controls. > > > Randall Schulz > Mountain View, CA USA > > > > At 17:04 2002-06-06, Jehan Bing wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm on Win2k SP5. I use XFree in fullscreen mode via the DOS > batch file.In > >a specific case, XWin is never showing: > > > >1. Launch XWin via the batch (didn't try via the sh script) in > fullscreen mode > >2. Before the XWin screen shows up, click on another window (this moves > >the focus from XWin to that window) > > > >3. Notice that at some point the window you clicked on loses it's focus > >(blue titlebar becomes gray) > >4. Notice that at the same time, the mouse cursor get centered on the > >screen (as XWin would have done) > >5. Notice the X window never shows up and that no XWin button appears in > >the taskbar. > >6. Open the task manager, XWin is running. > > > >result: there is no way to go in XWin (no taskbar button) nor > any to close > >it (as opposed to kill it) > > > >I can reproduce this bug any time following those steps. > > > > Jehan > From rrschulz@cris.com Thu Jun 6 19:08:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:08:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606184025.02222a78@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606190801.02084ce8@pop3.cris.com> Harold, I see. I still like the way it behaves... When it behaves, which for me it always has. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 19:00 2002-06-06, Harold Hunt wrote: >Randall, > >Jehan is indeed talking about a real problem where XWin does not >successfully register its window. The result is that there is no window >entry on the taskbar and you cannot switch to the application via Alt+Tab. > >This is a bug and I appreciate the easily reproducible test case. I'll take >a look at this. > >Harold From jehan@bravobrava.com Thu Jun 6 19:21:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:21:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing References: Message-ID: <3D0018C0.4090404@bravobrava.com> Harold Hunt wrote: >Randall, > >Jehan is indeed talking about a real problem where XWin does not >successfully register its window. The result is that there is no window >entry on the taskbar and you cannot switch to the application via Alt+Tab. > >This is a bug and I appreciate the easily reproducible test case. I'll take >a look at this. > Well, I was going to write a bigger explanation, but since you obviously can reproduce it. I'll skip this part :) >>Personally, I like this. The details of the comings and goings of the >>full-screen X window are perhaps not ideal, but it's nice that it >>goes away >>totally when it's not in front and that I really get the full >>extent of the >>monitor without any window frame / border and controls. >> >> Would it be possible to have a mode between normal and fullscreen? I'm in fullscreen also because I don't want the window frame. But I would still like to be able to see my taskbar (to see the notification icon in the systray for instance) or to see the content of both a X window and a Windows window. Would it be possible to have a window mode but without the decoration (i.e without the WS_CAPTION, WS_SYSMENU and WS_MINIMIZEBOX style)? Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 6 19:56:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:56:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. An attempt has been made to fix the problem where the Cygwin/XFree86 window would not show up if you ran XWin.exe with the -fullscreen parameter and gave the window focus to another application before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed. -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Thu Jun 6 22:57:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:57:00 -0000 Subject: french keymap and numpad Message-ID: <3D004B85.200804E9@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Hello. I have installed yesterday cygwin-free on my Win2000 box, to access to a sun enterprise server with xdm connection (as if I where on a X-Terminal). To do this, I use 'XWin -query -once'. Then, I've got the login prompt of the server, but my french keyboard is seen as an US one. After some search, I've found this message : http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-05/msg00028.html I've generated the file /tmp/fr.xkm with the xmodmap.fr file found at http://www.gotti.org and I now use this command : 'XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query -once' And hurray, my french keyboard is now recognised by the Unix server. The only trouble is that the numerical paddel is not responding. More exactly, it's beave as if the Num_Lock key wasn't regognised. What can I do to solve this ? Thank you. Gilles Civario. From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Fri Jun 7 02:32:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 02:32:00 -0000 Subject: A couple of patches Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFA6@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Attached are a couple of patches. These fix a few bugs that were annoying me in XFree86 4.2.0. I can't get access to CVS at the moment so this might be fixed in there - if so then feel free to ignore them ;) 1) Key strokes when X loses / gains focus. winkeydb.c now tracks which keys are up and down and releases all down keys when focus is lost. Also, it kills phantom key up messages being received (typcially when ALT-TAB'ing to the X server). This was causing (a) ICE to switch between windows and (b) bash to see a tab and try to auto-complete causing cygwin to thrash my hard disk looking for all executables in my path ;( 2) emulate3buttons didn't work correctly in single screen mode as InitOutput set the timeout to TRUE (1) rather than the default (50) or user supplied value. This made getting the middle button a matter of good timing ;) Side note - I had to comment out the Beep() call in winkeydb.c as this was causing X to hang. The comments just above the call about the arguments being ignored are not true - under Win NT / 2000 the arguments are used (according to MSDN at least ;)). Regards Stuart -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emulate3button.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 401 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: keystate.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2716 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 04:46:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:46:00 -0000 Subject: A couple of patches In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFA6@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Now that is what I like to see: on a guy's first post to the list he sends two bug reports and two patches. Outstanding! I've applied both patches (with formatting fixes) and I'll release a new server binary shortly. I also added a patch for the, "press both shifts, release both shifts, input remains shifted" bug. > Side note - I had to comment out the Beep() call in winkeydb.c as this was > causing X to hang. You must be looking at some old source... the function has been changed to MessageBeep. The comments have also been updated to indicate that Beep is a really bad idea. Thanks for the patches, Harold P.S. Regarding the three button emulation patch, I can only say, how embarrassing. I can't believe I have not caught that one on my own. > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Adamson > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:33 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: A couple of patches > > > Attached are a couple of patches. These fix a few bugs that were annoying > me in XFree86 4.2.0. > I can't get access to CVS at the moment so this might be fixed in > there - if > so then feel > free to ignore them ;) > > 1) Key strokes when X loses / gains focus. winkeydb.c now tracks > which keys > are up and down > and releases all down keys when focus is lost. Also, it kills phantom > key up messages > being received (typcially when ALT-TAB'ing to the X server). This was > causing (a) ICE to > switch between windows and (b) bash to see a tab and try to > auto-complete > causing cygwin to > thrash my hard disk looking for all executables in my path ;( > > > 2) emulate3buttons didn't work correctly in single screen mode as > InitOutput > set the timeout to > TRUE (1) rather than the default (50) or user supplied value. > This made > getting the middle > button a matter of good timing ;) > > Side note - I had to comment out the Beep() call in winkeydb.c as this was > causing X to hang. The comments just above the call about the arguments > being ignored are not true - under > Win NT / 2000 the arguments are used (according to MSDN at least ;)). > > > Regards > > > Stuart > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 04:52:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. Stuart Adamson's patches have been applied: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00056.html Stuart's patches cover: 1) Releasing all pressed keys when XWin.exe loses focus 2) Discarding some bogus Alt key releases (I think) when we Alt+Tab out of XWin.exe 3) Fixing a typo in InitOutput.c set an infinite timeout for three button emulation when the user specified a timeout value for a single screen. In addition, I have fixed: 1) Pressing both shifts then releasing both shifts leaves all input shifted. -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Fri Jun 7 04:52:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A402@ldnisp14.evolution.net> It appears that windows isn't sending us a WM_KEYUP message for the release of the first shift key. Maybe what we need to do is to call GetKeyState() when we see a shift key release and fake a release of the other key if required (can use the key state table in my patch yesterday to see if we think the other shift key is still down). Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Jehan [mailto:jehan_something@hotmail.com] > Sent: 07 June 2002 01:12 > To: cygwin-xfree > Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released > > > Hi again, > > I know that this bug has already been mentionned (April 18 > from bkarnd) > but there hasn't been much followup so I would like to know > what is the > status on it: > > 1. press and hold both shift at the same. > 2. release one of them (lets call it shift1) > 3. release the other one. > 4. press a letter: notice that you get the capitalize version (or, if > capslock is on, the lowercase one). > 5. press and release shift1. > 6. press a letter: now you get the correct case. > > Jehan > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 05:54:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 05:54:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released Message-ID: <200206071254.g57CsjW36888@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Stuart, Actually, my fix for this was a little easier. All I did was enter a fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT... I set the fixup to KEY_ShiftL. That seemed to take care of the problem. Harold Stuart Adamson said: > It appears that windows isn't sending us a WM_KEYUP message for the release > of > the first shift key. > > Maybe what we need to do is to call GetKeyState() when we see a shift key > release > and fake a release of the other key if required (can use the key state table > in my > patch yesterday to see if we think the other shift key is still down). > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jehan [mailto:jehan_something@hotmail.com] > > Sent: 07 June 2002 01:12 > > To: cygwin-xfree > > Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released > > > > > > Hi again, > > > > I know that this bug has already been mentionned (April 18 > > from bkarnd) > > but there hasn't been much followup so I would like to know > > what is the > > status on it: > > > > 1. press and hold both shift at the same. > > 2. release one of them (lets call it shift1) > > 3. release the other one. > > 4. press a letter: notice that you get the capitalize version (or, if > > capslock is on, the lowercase one). > > 5. press and release shift1. > > 6. press a letter: now you get the correct case. > > > > Jehan > > > From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 08:49:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:49:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 References: Message-ID: <3D00D61E.9070401@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > An attempt has been made to fix the problem where the Cygwin/XFree86 window > would not show up if you ran XWin.exe with the -fullscreen parameter > and gave the window focus to another application before the Cygwin/XFree86 > window was displayed. Reporting success. But I have a question: for consistency with Windows behavior, would it not be better to put an button in the taskbar instead of stiling the focus? Jehan From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 08:50:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 References: Message-ID: <3D00D65A.7020907@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > 1) Pressing both shifts then releasing both shifts leaves all input shifted. Reporting success there too. Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 10:42:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:42:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 Message-ID: <200206071742.g57HgJi216924@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> I don't understand what you mean about putting a button in the Windows taskbar. The desired behavior is that we *do* put a button in the Windows taskbar. If you are seeing a case in which the button does not appear, then that is a bug. As for stealing focus, I'm not sure what you mean again. For DirectDraw fullscreen engines I was passing SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when we created the window... I did that because we weren't really showing our window, per se, as we were just using a DirectDraw surface that covered the entire screen. It turns out that that was not the flag to use. So, I switched to SW_SHOWNORMAL, of which MSDN says, "An application should specify this flag when displaying the window for the first time." The ideal situation would be that we would pass the nShowCmd parameter of WinMain to ShowWindow, but it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to propogate this value to the place where it is needed in XWin.exe. Alternatively, I now see another flag, SW_SHOWDEFAULT, that looks like it may have the same effect as passing nShowCmd to ShowWindow. I could give SW_SHOWDEFAULT a try and see if that improves things. What do you think? I suppose I should release that as a test release first so that ordinary users don't have to get it if it is not an improvement. By the way, the docs I'm reading are here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/reference/functions/shellexecute.asp This doc doesn't only apply to the ShowWindow flags, but it has the same information as all the other docs on them. Harold Jehan said: > Harold Hunt wrote: > > An attempt has been made to fix the problem where the Cygwin/XFree86 window > > would not show up if you ran XWin.exe with the -fullscreen parameter > > and gave the window focus to another application before the Cygwin/XFree86 > > window was displayed. > > Reporting success. > But I have a question: for consistency with Windows behavior, would it > not be better to put an button in the taskbar instead of stiling the focus? > > Jehan > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 10:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 Message-ID: <200206071743.g57Hhbi21434@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> Jehan, Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. Harold Jehan said: > Harold Hunt wrote: > > 1) Pressing both shifts then releasing both shifts leaves all input shifted. > > Reporting success there too. > > Jehan > > From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 11:40:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:40:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 References: <200206071742.g57HgJi216924@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3D00FE28.10606@hotmail.com> Harold L Hunt wrote: > I don't understand what you mean about putting a button in the Windows > taskbar. The desired behavior is that we *do* put a button in the Windows > taskbar. If you are seeing a case in which the button does not appear, then > that is a bug. Well, from the bug previously, I assumed that you were either showing the window or putting a button in the taskbar but not both. My mistake. > As for stealing focus, I'm not sure what you mean again. If you do the steps from the bug, XWin appears in the front and becomes the active window. Usually, when you launch a slow application (Visual Studio, for instance), and select another window before the application shows up, the application will stay in the background, i.e, the focus stays on the window you clicked on. > For DirectDraw > fullscreen engines I was passing SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when we created the > window... I did that because we weren't really showing our window, per se, as > we were just using a DirectDraw surface that covered the entire screen. It > turns out that that was not the flag to use. So, I switched to SW_SHOWNORMAL, > of which MSDN says, "An application should specify this flag when displaying > the window for the first time." > > The ideal situation would be that we would pass the nShowCmd parameter of > WinMain to ShowWindow, but it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to > propogate this value to the place where it is needed in XWin.exe. > Alternatively, I now see another flag, SW_SHOWDEFAULT, that looks like it may > have the same effect as passing nShowCmd to ShowWindow. > > I could give SW_SHOWDEFAULT a try and see if that improves things. What do > you think? I suppose I should release that as a test release first so that > ordinary users don't have to get it if it is not an improvement. Well, I'm not very familiar with the innards of Windows even less with DirectX. My understanding of SW_SHOWNORMAL vs SW_SHOWDEFAULT is that SW_SHOWNORMAL will overwrite the settings at launch. I mean, in a shortcut for instance, one can specify if the window starts normal, minimized or maximized. My guess is that SHOWNORMAL will always display a normal window, what ever this setting while SW_SHOWDEFAULT will repect the setting. I don't think it will change anything about the focus. Maybe a fullscreen DirectX application automatically takes the focus... Yes, looks like it. I just tried with Unreal Tournament (DirectX) and Quake III (OpenGL) and both take the focus back. So it's not a bug, it's the normal behavior of a fullscreen application. It was not big deal anyway, it was just a thought. Thanks for looking at it. Jehan From jehan@bravobrava.com Fri Jun 7 11:52:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: Building XWin only Message-ID: <3D010105.6090706@bravobrava.com> Hi, I would like to try a quick hack in XWin. So I follow the instruction in http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. But then, it rebuild everything everytime. Is there a way to rebuild XWin without having to redo everything (no clean, no doc, no fonts, no programs execpt XWin, ....)? Jehan From kkobb@skylinecorp.com Fri Jun 7 12:24:00 2002 From: kkobb@skylinecorp.com (Kevin Kobb) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 12:24:00 -0000 Subject: app-defaults location Message-ID: <000001c20e58$d76b9ca0$9501a8c0@SkylineCorp.net> Hello all, Just downloaded complete Cygwin/XFree86 package from mirror site, and did install from local directory. Starting up with an out of the box C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat, it seems as though xcalc, xfontsel are broken. They start, but don't display correctly. After a little investigation, I found the install creates a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/app-defaults directory. Copying the XCalc, XFontSel, ... files from there to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults makes everything display correctly. This is only my observation in the hopes it might be of help to somebody. I am not an expert at Cygwin or X, so if I am screwing this up myself, please forgive me. I do appreciate the work people have put into this project, and would like to contribute what I can. Thanks. From iburrell@znark.com Fri Jun 7 14:02:00 2002 From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:02:00 -0000 Subject: Building XWin only References: <3D010105.6090706@bravobrava.com> Message-ID: <3D011F40.9010702@znark.com> Jehan Bing wrote: > > I would like to try a quick hack in XWin. So I follow the instruction in > http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. But then, it > rebuild everything everytime. Is there a way to rebuild XWin without > having to redo everything (no clean, no doc, no fonts, no programs > execpt XWin, ....)? > The config files in xc/config/cf control what is built. Create a host.def with your customizations. For example, mine that just builds XWin.exe and supporting libraries looks like: #define BuildLibraries YES #define BuildServersOnly YES #define XnestServer NO #define BuildXprint NO #define XprtServer NO #define XVirtualFramebufferServer NO This is run in a cut down source tree without fonts, docs, or most of the programs. You will need to run a full "make World" from the base directory to rebuild all the Makefiles etc. You can do "make" from xc/programs/Xserver to rebuild all servers or xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin to just do XWin.exe. - Ian -- iburrell@znark.com http://www.znark.com/ From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 18:21:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:21:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] -nodecoration parameter Message-ID: <3D015C2E.7000204@hotmail.com> Hi, Here is a little patch that adds a "-nodecoration" parameter to XWin. With this parameter on (and no -fullscreen), the XWin window won't have titlebar nor border. It cumulates the advantage of both fullscreen (doesn't waste estate, especially if your taskbar in set to auto-hide) and non-fullscreen mode (Windows window on top of XWin, taskbar and other desktop toolbar still visible, always-on-top (winamp) window are still accessible). Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: decoration.patch URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 19:59:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 19:59:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] -nodecoration parameter In-Reply-To: <3D015C2E.7000204@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, Excellent! I've applied this patch as well. I'm going to release this as a test release in a few moments so that I don't overwhelm users with new Cygwin setup.exe packages. Keep feeding me patches guys!! :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:22 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: [PATCH] -nodecoration parameter > > > Hi, > > Here is a little patch that adds a "-nodecoration" parameter to XWin. > With this parameter on (and no -fullscreen), the XWin window won't have > titlebar nor border. It cumulates the advantage of both fullscreen > (doesn't waste estate, especially if your taskbar in set to auto-hide) > and non-fullscreen mode (Windows window on top of XWin, taskbar and > other desktop toolbar still visible, always-on-top (winamp) window are > still accessible). > > Jehan > From nasinha@cisco.com Fri Jun 7 20:33:00 2002 From: nasinha@cisco.com (Nabhonil Sinha) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 20:33:00 -0000 Subject: Help required for installing tar In-Reply-To: <200206071742.g57HgJi216924@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: Hi, I am using Cygwin and find out a lot of good utilities that this software is providing. However I need one help for my project from cygwin software. My problem is as follows:- I have a directory in my C drive say C:\test\. Now I need to create an archive of all the stuff in this directory say testfile.tar. I had a gui which will internally call a command line statement which will create the tar file for me. Now my server has windows2000 server configuration and no other software. Now if I install only the tar package in my system from cygwin software then I am able to do so fine. So is it possible to get the dll or the source code of files other than the whole cygwin software which will only help me in running tar commands from command line. In other words can I use some software or dll which can only invoke tar commands in windows from command line? I will be greatly obliged if I get the source code and the dlls which can do this. Thanks in advance. With regards from Nabhonil Sinha Infosys Technologies Limited. Electronics city, Hosur road, Bangalore -561 229, India. Tel: 91 080 852 0261, 852 0902 fax: 91 080 852 0362, 852 1695 Extn: 1008 From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 20:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 20:55:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 56 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 56 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 56 package via setup.exe by pointing setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory on your favorite mirror. For example, you could point setup.exe at: http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/testing/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test56.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020607-2235.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) InitOutput.c, win.h, wincreatewnd.c - Add a -nodecoration parameter that creates the Cygwin/XFree86 window that is the same size as the desktop, without a border. The end effect is that you can still get to the taskbar (even with Auto Hide enabled) and easily switch to other application while not giving up any screen space to the title bar, borders, etc. (Jehan) 2) winkeybd.c - Disregard the bogus key releases that we see when losing the focus via Alt+Tab. (Stuart Adamson) 3) win.h, winkeybd.h, winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c - Release all pressed keys when the X server loses the keyboard focus. (Stuart Adamson) 4) InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) 5) wincursor.c - See if we are the foreground window before warping the Windows cursor position. This fixes the new bug that occurs if you launch Cygwin/XFree86 and give another application the focus. In that case the Windows mouse cursor would still jump to the center of the screen, even though the Cygwin/XFree86 window was not active. (Harold Hunt) 6) winkeybd.h - Fix the bug where pressing both shift keys then releasing them both would still cause all keyboard input to be shift-modified. The fix was to set the fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT key to KEY_ShiftL. (Harold Hunt) 7) wincreatewnd.c - Pass SW_SHOWNORMAL instead of SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when running a DirectDraw engine in fullscreen mode. This fixes the bug where launching Cygwin/XFree86 then giving another application the focus before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed would cause Cygwin/XFree86 to never display a window or register a window handle on the Windows taskbar. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 21:52:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:52:00 -0000 Subject: proposing a different aproach for XwinClip (but need some help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Joan, (Link to source code in original mail:) http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-03/msg00128.html This is an interesting idea. For those who don't remember, Joan's approach was to use a tray icon and allow the user to determine when to copy back and forth between Windows and X Windows. I've just now gotten a chance to look at your source code. I'll see if I can incorporate your ideas into xwinclip. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 21:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:55:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = caps-lock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gerard, Please try the Test 56 release or the XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 pre-release (they are the same): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00072.html Please report to the mailing list whether the bug is still present or not. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd) > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:55 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys > = caps-lock > > > Hello, > > when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the > currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to > the other > window. > > Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to > manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB. My installation of cygwin > and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to > date. The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm (the HP/UX > xterm seems > unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no > problem with that > using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb). > > Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose) > press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to > switch that > of by hitting the shift keys separately. It happens quite often by > accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT? > > Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at > work now ;-) > > Gerard > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have > received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email > that the intended recipient was not reached. > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 21:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:58:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree performance using 127.0.0.1:0.0 vs computer_ip:0.0 In-Reply-To: <3CC94254.7040800@gamma-rs.ch> Message-ID: Charles, Nope, no explanation. We could speculate that it has something to do with the way that Cygwin handles sockets... but that would all be speculation, right? :) I've never noticed this myself, but I haven't tried it out. I'll give it a shot at some point in the future and let you know if it made any difference for me. Thanks for the tip, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles L. Werner > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:05 AM > To: cygwin-xfree > Subject: cygwin-xfree performance using 127.0.0.1:0.0 vs computer_ip:0.0 > > > Greetings, > > I have noticed a significant speed penelty (factors of 2 to 10) when > using 127.0.0.1 (localhost) versus my machines assigned IP > with cygwiw-xfree. This has been tested and verified for NT-4 SP5 and > Win2K (SP2) on different PCs. > > Any explanation? > remedy? > > Cheers > > Charles > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 22:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:02:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In case anyone is wondering, this bug is still open and no one on the KDE team has contacted us to tell us why our visual format for 32 bits per pixel is wrong for KDE 3.0. I guess we'll just keep going at 16 bits per pixel forever... Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Kulow [mailto:owner@bugs.kde.org] > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 1:18 AM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit > color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) > > > Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding KDE. > This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has > been received. It is being forwarded to the developers' mailing list for > their attention; they will reply in due course. > > Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): > David Faure > > If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send > it to 40875@bugs.kde.org (and *not* to bugs@bugs.kde.org). > > You can follow your bug's status at http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html > (NOTE: it will take some time until your bug will appear there) > > Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, > unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. > > Stephan Kulow > (administrator, KDE bugs database) From linux@dounsix.co.nz Fri Jun 7 22:27:00 2002 From: linux@dounsix.co.nz (Linux) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:27:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree only 1/2 screen & have lost blue bar at top of all apps Message-ID: <51065A926D41D311899F00A0C9B8E8263ABD7D@localhost> Hi I have two curret issues with Cygwin-xfree 1) When invoking the Gnome interface on my Win2k system from my Redhat 7.2 box all I get is the bottom toolbar and no Icons on the screen. Its been so long that I can't remember what they are. I think Start here, Trash etc. When I open some applications then I get the Icons and no bottom tool bar. I use the XDM xwin -query xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -from command. Any clues? 2) I seem to have lost the top blue bar at the top of applications that are launched. When an application is launched it goes to the top left of the screen an I can't seem to shift it. Again any help would be gratefully appreciated. Many thanks Mike This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com From bastian@kde.org Fri Jun 7 23:03:00 2002 From: bastian@kde.org (Waldo Bastian) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:03:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200206072303.06257.bastian@kde.org> Hi Harold, Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I guess there isn't that much changed in KDE 3.0 that would really explain this behaviour. However, the change from KDE 2 to KDE 3 also implies a change from Qt2 to Qt3, I don't know what exactly has changed in Qt3 pixmap handling but it seems that XRENDER support for alphablending was added. I looked at your screenshots and it struck me that _some_ icons did show up. So If I had to make an educated guess I would say that it is related to some sort of alpha-channel problem. I would then assume that the icons in the screenshots that show up do so because they happen to have no alpha channel. Cheers, Waldo On Friday 07 June 2002 10:02 pm, Harold Hunt wrote: > In case anyone is wondering, this bug is still open and no one on the KDE > team has contacted us to tell us why our visual format for 32 bits per > pixel is wrong for KDE 3.0. > > I guess we'll just keep going at 16 bits per pixel forever... -- bastian@kde.org | SuSE Labs KDE Developer | bastian@suse.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 09:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) In-Reply-To: <200206072303.06257.bastian@kde.org> Message-ID: Waldo, Thanks for the reply. > I looked at your screenshots and it struck me that _some_ icons > did show up. > So If I had to make an educated guess I would say that it is > related to some > sort of alpha-channel problem. I would then assume that the icons in the > screenshots that show up do so because they happen to have no > alpha channel. Your idea about the alpha channel sounds plausible. I'm just wondering if something in our visuals description is off... perhaps that could cause the alpha channel to not work correctly. Did you get a chance to look at the visuals information that I listed for Cygwin/XFree86 and a commercial X server in the bug history (dated Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:36:48): http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html If someone could take a glance at the visuals (and pixmap formats) and tell me if they are way off I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Harold From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sat Jun 8 16:51:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 16:51:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor Message-ID: <3D02988A.3010707@hotmail.com> Hi again Harold, Here is another patch. It's about the windows mouse cursor. - It maybe just a matter of preferences but for me, I prefer if the windows cursor is hidden in the client area of X if it isn't active. I personnally find it ugly to have two mouse cursors on top of each other :p. It's then not necessary to show/hide the mouse upon (de)activation. This simplifies the code a bit. - Moreover, the cursor state is global to the application, not to each window. So I made fCursor a global variable, which simplifies the code more (doesn't care about ScreenPrivLast anymore). Potentially, we could get rid of fCursor altogether by using GetCursorInfo instead (don't know about performance issues though). - Last, WM_NCMOUSEMOVE calls the default winproc. This should fix the min/max/close button highlight problem on WinXP (Although I don't have XP so I can't test) Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: cursor.patch URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 18:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 18:22:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor In-Reply-To: <3D02988A.3010707@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, > - Last, WM_NCMOUSEMOVE calls the default winproc. This should fix > the min/max/close button highlight problem on WinXP (Although I don't > have XP so I can't test) That's an excellent catch. I went back and read the Platform SDK docs about WM_NCMOUSEMOVE: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/winui /windowsuserinterface/userinput/mouseinput/mouseinputreference/mouseinputmes sages/wm_ncmousemove.asp As I thought, the documentation for WM_NCMOUSEMOVE does say that you are supposed to return 0 if you process that message. However, they fail to mention that things such as button highlighting are handled by DefWindowProc, which you still need to call if you want to preserve that default behavior. This document gave me some indications that this was the case: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/winui /windowsuserinterface/userinput/mouseinput/aboutmouseinput.asp One thing that is not entirely clear is whether we should call DefWindowProc, then return 0, or if we should just 'break' after our processing of the message and return whatever DefWindowProc returns. I've opted for the latter, for now. > - Moreover, the cursor state is global to the application, not to > each window. So I made fCursor a global variable, which simplifies the > code more (doesn't care about ScreenPrivLast anymore). Potentially, we > could get rid of fCursor altogether by using GetCursorInfo instead > (don't know about performance issues though). Making the cursor state a global variable is probably a good idea; or, we could at least make it a static inside winWindowProc if it is not accessed elsewhere. This would take care of the cursor hiding/showing problems that happen when we have multiple screens. (e.g. XWin -screen 0 640 480 -screen 1 1024 768) I'll go ahead and switch the cursor state variable to a global. > - It maybe just a matter of preferences but for me, I prefer if the > windows cursor is hidden in the client area of X if it isn't active. I > personnally find it ugly to have two mouse cursors on top of each other > :p. It's then not necessary to show/hide the mouse upon (de)activation. > This simplifies the code a bit. This is really a matter of preference. I originally coded it this way, but I got enough complaints that I switched to the current system of not hiding the cursor when we don't have the focus. Maybe we can make this a configuration option? As it is it just reverts to previous functionality, so I'll skip it for now. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 19:19:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:19:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 57 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 57 package via setup.exe by pointing setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory on your favorite mirror. For example, you could point setup.exe at: http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/testing/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test57.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020608-2149.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) winwndproc.c - Call DefWindowProc after processing WM_NCMOUSEMOVE messages. This should fix the highlighting of the minimize and exit buttons in Windows XP. (Jehan Bing) 2) winwndproc.c, win.h, winallpriv.c - Make the cursor state variable, fCursor, a static local variable in winwndproc.c/winWindowProc (), rather than a member variable in the winPrivScreenRec structure. This makes sense because the Windows cursor is either hidden or shown, as Windows does not hide or show the mouse cursor on a per-window basis. This also greatly simplifies the handling of hiding and showing the Windows mouse cursor. (Jehan Bing) Enjoy, Harold From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sat Jun 8 19:53:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:53:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor References: <3D02988A.3010707@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > As I thought, the documentation for WM_NCMOUSEMOVE does say that you are > supposed to return 0 if you process that message. However, they fail to > mention that things such as button highlighting are handled by > DefWindowProc, which you still need to call if you want to preserve that > default behavior. This document gave me some indications that this was the > case: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/winui > /windowsuserinterface/userinput/mouseinput/aboutmouseinput.asp Yes, that's where I saw it ("Nonclient area mouse messages" section) > One thing that is not entirely clear is whether we should call > DefWindowProc, then return 0, or if we should just 'break' after our > processing of the message and return whatever DefWindowProc returns. I've > opted for the latter, for now. I think this way is better too. We are adding a functionality not replacing it so it's better to let Windows do whatever it would have done if we didn't catch this message, i.e. return what DefWindowProc returns. >> - Moreover, the cursor state is global to the application, not to >>each window. So I made fCursor a global variable, which simplifies the >>code more (doesn't care about ScreenPrivLast anymore). Potentially, we >>could get rid of fCursor altogether by using GetCursorInfo instead >>(don't know about performance issues though). > > > Making the cursor state a global variable is probably a good idea; or, we > could at least make it a static inside winWindowProc if it is not accessed > elsewhere. This would take care of the cursor hiding/showing problems that > happen when we have multiple screens. (e.g. XWin -screen 0 640 480 -screen > 1 1024 768) > > I'll go ahead and switch the cursor state variable to a global. A static would do the job but, by personnally, I don't like static in a function. It's easy to miss the "static" keyword when reading the code which then make it hard to understand (or at least, I missed it. Several times already I spent a few hours to try to understand why the code was working just because I missed it :p). And it has to be initialized by a constant. However, I already got on a couple occasions the pointer visible with no way to hide it. Is it possible for the window to recieve a WM_MOUSEMOVE before initializing the variable (I haven't check the code for that yet)? Because I would think the reference count on ShowMouse has gotten screwed. So we may have to use GetMouseInfo to initialize the value (which I think is better than assuming that the mouse is visible when an application starts anyway). >> - It maybe just a matter of preferences but for me, I prefer if the >>windows cursor is hidden in the client area of X if it isn't active. I >>personnally find it ugly to have two mouse cursors on top of each other >>:p. It's then not necessary to show/hide the mouse upon (de)activation. >>This simplifies the code a bit. > > > This is really a matter of preference. I originally coded it this way, but > I got enough complaints that I switched to the current system of not hiding > the cursor when we don't have the focus. Maybe we can make this a > configuration option? As it is it just reverts to previous functionality, > so I'll skip it for now. Do you remember why would people want to have two cursors? To me, that doesn't make sense. I can see one case where it /might/ make sense: it's if an X app hides its own cursor, but then, it's the X app's reponsability, not XWin. Well, it's not a big deal, it's just ugly :) Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 20:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 20:35:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor In-Reply-To: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, > However, I already got on a > couple occasions the pointer visible with no way to hide it. Was that with your modified server or with the Test57 server? I had to reimplement the showing/hiding logic in the Test57 server since I couldn't use your patch directly... so I need to know which one has the problem. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 21:01:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 21:01:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor In-Reply-To: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, > A static would do the job but, by personnally, I don't like static in a > function. It's easy to miss the "static" keyword when reading the code > which then make it hard to understand (or at least, I missed it. Several > times already I spent a few hours to try to understand why the code was > working just because I missed it :p). Okay, I have implemented a new convention: static variable names are now prefixed with 's_', just like globals are prefixed with 'g_'. I've updated all files in the hw/xwin directory and I'll submit that patch to XFree86. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 07:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: Now that we have the -nodecoration parameter we can start messing around with making the some initial moves towards a rootless mode, just like XDarwin. Here are some initial steps to take that would help you learn a little about creating a rootless mode: 1) Start off by simply overriding PaintWindowBackground to paint a transparent background to cause the X Windows (still managed by a window manager such as twm) to 'float' above the Windows desktop when Cygwin/XFree86 has the focus. 2) You'll need to look at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/quartz/rootlessScreen.c/RootlessPaintWindowBac kground (). There is a check in this function that paints the root window background using the 'magic' transparent color. You'll need to do something like this for Cygwin/XFree86, so you'll need to start by finding the Windows 'magic' transparent color. You'll also need to put a function that is almost equivalent to this function into some file in hw/xwin/. 3) You now need to wrap the paint background function so that our paint background function gets called first. XDarwin does this in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/quartz/rootlessScreen.c/RootlessWrap (). To start you'll need to make a similar function to this in hw/xwin/, or you could just copy the WRAP macro and the call to it for PaintWindowBackground into hw/xwin/winscrinit.c/winFinishScreenInitFB (). Darwin calls RootlessWrap through a convoluted sequence something like: DarwinAddScreen->QuartzSetupScreen->AquaSetupScreen->RootlessInit->RootlessW rap. If you do all that you'd have put Cygwin/XFree86 on the road to having a rootless mode. Good luck, Harold From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 9 08:58:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 08:58:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020609155842.67996.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> > 1) Start off by simply overriding > PaintWindowBackground to paint a > transparent background to cause the X Windows (still > managed by a window > manager such as twm) to 'float' above the Windows > desktop when > Cygwin/XFree86 has the focus. > starting at search.microsoft.com gives : http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/vclib/html/vcrefCImageGetTransparentColor.asp ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 10:57:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 10:57:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... References: Message-ID: <3D039724.3090504@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > Now that we have the -nodecoration parameter we can start messing around > with making the some initial moves towards a rootless mode, just like > XDarwin. Here are some initial steps to take that would help you learn a > little about creating a rootless mode: [...] > If you do all that you'd have put Cygwin/XFree86 on the road to having a > rootless mode. Since I don't know anything about X nor how the X server interacts with XWin, it may be not useful but what about creating "holes" around X windows? http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/gdi/clipping_21d3.asp The XWin window start empty (a big excluded region). Each time we add a X window, we fill the region with the shape of the X window to make it non transparent. The biggest issue may be performance when managing non rectangular window and moving windows arround. This could be pretty easy to do. But on the overall, I don't think it's really the way to go. Again, I don't known much about X so it may not be reasonable but what about creating a Windows window for each X window? This would allow each X App to appear in the taskbar like any Windows application. And if someone writes a specific window manager, we could then easily use the Windows window manager to also manage X windows. Rereading the "To-Do" list, it's basically the first point ("Seamless integration with Windows") :p From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 10:59:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor References: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3D039797.5020204@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > Was that with your modified server or with the Test57 server? I had to > reimplement the showing/hiding logic in the Test57 server since I couldn't > use your patch directly... so I need to know which one has the problem. It was with my modified version. I'm going to look at Test57 and see if I can find away to reproduce it. Jehan From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 11:35:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:35:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 References: Message-ID: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Harold, I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 11:42:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:42:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <20020609155842.67996.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sylvain, No, that article does not apply. That article applies to a C++ template library for COM called ATL. We obviously do not use ATL within Cygwin/XFree86. Furthermore, the CImage class does not apply to screens, rather, "CImage provides enhanced bitmap support, including the ability to load and save images in JPEG, GIF, BMP, and Portable Network Graphics (PNG) formats." Keep looking :) Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 11:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:43:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 In-Reply-To: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, Then again, your version gets trapped in a state where the cursor is shown, whereas I haven't seen that problem with Test57 yet :) > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:36 PM > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 > > > Harold, > > I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing > it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will > always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. > > Jehan > From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 11:47:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:47:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 In-Reply-To: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, That last message fired off before I was done... my Ctrl key is sticking so when I hit Enter it sent a Ctrl+Enter, which sends the message. > I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing > it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will > always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. Then again, your version gets trapped in a state where the cursor is shown, whereas I haven't seen that problem with Test57 yet :) I remember spending a *lot* of time reading the docs about WM_ACTIVATE and WM_ACTIVATEAPP to figure out where to show and hide the cursor. There were constant bug repots until I got it right, so I'm going to tend to believe that the show/hide in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is required, until someone presents me with some sample code and documentation exerpts that shows me that 1) they've spent more time on the problem than I have and 2) that the show/hide code in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is indeed not needed. Until then, I'm inclined to leave the processing as it is. Harold From baruchs@mercury.co.il Sun Jun 9 12:00:00 2002 From: baruchs@mercury.co.il (Baruch Shpirer) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 12:00:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: HOW MANY TIMEs DO I NEED TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST TO REALY GET OFF IT ??? From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 12:27:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan Something) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 12:27:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: >HOW MANY TIMEs DO I NEED TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST TO REALY GET OFF IT >??? I'm not the maintainer of this mailing list so I don't known why you send this message to me!! Go read http://cygwin.com/lists.html to see of you are doing it correctly and, if you do and it still doesn't work, to get the mail address of the maintainer. Cheers, Jehan _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 14:34:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:34:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] + Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 References: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3D03C9D8.1080102@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > Jehan, > > That last message fired off before I was done... my Ctrl key is sticking so > when I hit Enter it sent a Ctrl+Enter, which sends the message. > > >>I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing >>it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will >>always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. > > > Then again, your version gets trapped in a state where the cursor is shown, > whereas I haven't seen that problem with Test57 yet :) Actually, I'm now using Test57, and I haven't seen my problem either. And I was not saying that this was related to my problem, I'm just saying that it looks like unecessary code. > I remember spending a *lot* of time reading the docs about WM_ACTIVATE and > WM_ACTIVATEAPP to figure out where to show and hide the cursor. There were > constant bug repots until I got it right, so I'm going to tend to believe > that the show/hide in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is required, until someone presents me > with some sample code and documentation exerpts that shows me that 1) > they've spent more time on the problem than I have and 2) that the show/hide > code in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is indeed not needed. But the code changed since and got simplified a lot, especially everything about hiding/showing the cursor the previous screen and all that stuff is gone. So maybe the bug has been flushed with the code :). But that's true that it doesn't cost much to have it anyway and that you're the boss (^_^) By the way, here is another patch that should prevent some problems with multiroot systems (not tested). Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: active.patch URL: From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 14:39:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:39:00 -0000 Subject: [FAQ] 1.8. Is there a Cygwin/XFree86 newsgroup? Message-ID: <3D03CB18.9070306@hotmail.com> On the server news.gmane.org, the mailing list has been mapped to the group gmane.os.cygwin.xfree. It's quite convenient except that I haven't been able to post to the mailing list via the group. But since it's not required to be a member of the list to post, it's not a big deal. Jehan From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 9 14:48:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: lndir: Broken with latest cygwin cvs sources Message-ID: <20020609214836.58480.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I just wanted to report that lndir on cygwin is broken with the latest cygwin dll running on WindowsME. When you run it, it sucessfully symlinks the toplevel of the source dir, but then it hits ".." and craps out saying it already exists. This behavior does not happen on linux. So, either lndir needs to be modified to ignore ".." or cygwin needs to be modified to stop spitting out that error. Just thought I'd give a heads up, as lndir is used in building XFree. If you reply and feel that this is an issue for the main list, feel free to cross-post. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Sun Jun 9 23:37:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:37:00 -0000 Subject: french keymap and numpad References: <3D004B85.200804E9@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Message-ID: <3D04496D.55561483@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> gilles civario a ??crit : > > Hello. > > I have installed yesterday cygwin-free on my Win2000 box, to access to a > sun enterprise server with xdm connection (as if I where on a X-Terminal). > To do this, I use 'XWin -query -once'. Then, I've got the login > prompt of the server, but my french keyboard is seen as an US one. > > After some search, I've found this message : > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-05/msg00028.html > I've generated the file /tmp/fr.xkm with the xmodmap.fr file found at > http://www.gotti.org and I now use this command : > 'XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query -once' > And hurray, my french keyboard is now recognised by the Unix server. > > The only trouble is that the numerical paddel is not responding. More exactly, > it's beave as if the Num_Lock key wasn't regognised. > What can I do to solve this ? > > Thank you. > > Gilles Civario. Hello. I've got some additionnal informations about my numpad problem. I've installed the same way cygwin-xfree on an ather Win2000 box, and there, the numerical paddel gets well. I'm was very surprised. My computer is a Dell optiplex GX240 and my configuration is gived in the attached file 'cygcheck.out'. The other one (where the numerical pad works) is a HP Kayak XM600 with Win2000 too. Here is the result of a cygcheck -k : $ cygcheck -k This key check works only in a console window, _NOT_ in a terminal session! Abort with Ctrl+C if in a terminal session. Press `q' to exit. Pressed 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -> NumLock off Released 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x23 VS: 0x4f A: 0x00 CTRL: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -> '1' Released 1x VK: 0x23 VS: 0x4f A: 0x00 CTRL: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- NL -- -- -- -- -> NumLock on Released 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- NL -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x61 VS: 0x4f A: 0x31 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- -> '1' Released 1x VK: 0x61 VS: 0x4f A: 0x31 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x51 VS: 0x1e A: 0x71 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- -> 'q' Released 1x VK: 0x51 VS: 0x1e A: 0x71 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- Thank you for any help. Gilles Civario. -------------- next part -------------- Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Mon Jun 10 08:25:14 2002 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Path: . 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2.0-1 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shutdown 1.2-2 squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 ssmtp 2.38.7-3 swig 1.3.11-1 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 tcsh 6.11.00-4 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 tetex-beta 20001218-4 texinfo 4.2-3 texmf 20000804-2 texmf-base 20000804-2 texmf-doc 20000804-2 texmf-extra 20000804-2 textutils 2.0.21-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 ttcp 19980512-1 ucl 1.01-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 upx 1.20-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.4-2 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 whois 4.5.17-1 xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 zsh 4.0.4-1 Use -h to see help about each section From linux@dounsix.co.nz Mon Jun 10 02:24:00 2002 From: linux@dounsix.co.nz (Linux) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 02:24:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree only 1/2 screen & have lost blue bar at top of all apps Message-ID: <51065A926D41D311899F00A0C9B8E8263ABD80@localhost> Hi I have two curret issues with Cygwin-xfree 1) When invoking the Gnome interface on my Win2k system from my Redhat 7.2 box all I get is the bottom toolbar and no Icons on the screen. Its been so long that I can't remember what they are. I think Start here, Trash etc. When I open some applications then I get the Icons and no bottom tool bar. I use the XDM xwin -query xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -from command. Any clues? 2) I seem to have lost the top blue bar at the top of applications that are launched. When an application is launched it goes to the top left of the screen an I can't seem to shift it. Again any help would be gratefully appreciated. Many thanks Mike This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Mon Jun 10 04:10:00 2002 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: [tfletcher@netfactoriel.com: starting Xwindows] Message-ID: <20020610131015.T30892@cygbert.vinschen.de> Wrong mailing list. I've forwarded to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Corinna ----- Forwarded message from Tim Fletcher ----- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:50:04 +0200 From: "Tim Fletcher" Subject: starting Xwindows To: hi list, i'm having touble starting xwin on cygwin. i'm most probably missing something really simple, but when i run XWin.exe, it just hangs on the startup screen. TIA &HAND Tim -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Mon Jun 10 04:39:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 04:39:00 -0000 Subject: [tfletcher@netfactoriel.com: starting Xwindows] Message-ID: You are not hanging, but this way to start xwin is not the recommend one. use either the startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat located in /etc/X11R6/bin and please take the time to read the FAQ as you will find answers to your next problems in there ;-) Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen Corinna Vinschen @cygwin.com on 10-06-2002 13:10:15 Please respond to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: Tim Fletcher Subject: [tfletcher@netfactoriel.com: starting Xwindows] Wrong mailing list. I've forwarded to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Corinna ----- Forwarded message from Tim Fletcher ----- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:50:04 +0200 From: "Tim Fletcher" Subject: starting Xwindows To: hi list, i'm having touble starting xwin on cygwin. i'm most probably missing something really simple, but when i run XWin.exe, it just hangs on the startup screen. TIA &HAND Tim -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Mon Jun 10 05:23:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:23:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: YES SIR, couldn't wait, so I went home during the midday-break to fetch it, and indeed, both problems have mysteriously disappeared. Thank you, (and Boy Wonder Jehan, if I followed the mailings correctly). What a pity, do we now have a product that is perfect? Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm, could provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? Maybe he likes a little challenge? It might keep him from worrying about seeing multiple cursors? ;-) (if that wasn't obvious) Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: zaterdag 8 juni 2002 5:55 To: Pille Geert (bkarnd); cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = caps-lock Gerard, Please try the Test 56 release or the XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 pre-release (they are the same): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00072.html Please report to the mailing list whether the bug is still present or not. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd) > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:55 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys > = caps-lock > > > Hello, > > when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the > currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to > the other > window. > > Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to > manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB. My installation of cygwin > and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to > date. The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm (the HP/UX > xterm seems > unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no > problem with that > using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb). > > Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose) > press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to > switch that > of by hitting the shift keys separately. It happens quite often by > accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT? > > Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at > work now ;-) > > Gerard > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have > received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email > that the intended recipient was not reached. > =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From info@french-union.com Mon Jun 10 08:47:00 2002 From: info@french-union.com (French Union) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:47:00 -0000 Subject: Hello, Message-ID: <20020610154748.7ABDBE059@relay-3m.club-internet.fr> Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, Many men and women have found good friends or are now happily married as a result of our free service. You can too! Our website www.french-union.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: logo.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 6063 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jehan_something@hotmail.com Mon Jun 10 08:47:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:47:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock References: Message-ID: <3D04CA09.80805@hotmail.com> Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > couldn't wait, so I went home during the midday-break to fetch it, and > indeed, both problems have mysteriously disappeared. I hope it's not too mysterious or Harold may feel it as an insult to his programming skills!! ;) > Thank you, (and Boy Wonder Jehan, if I followed the mailings correctly). Nope, I didn't do anything about it except reminding Harold. But you're welcome :) > What a pity, do we now have a product that is perfect? No because I see doubled cursors ;) > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm And before you said I was a boy. What make you think that I'm so young? I left school several years ago already. Gosh time is going fast. > could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? Maybe he likes a > little challenge? From a mail from Harold on February: "You CAN run in windowed mode (instead of fullscreen) if you run XWin.exe with the -engine 1 argument and you have Windows in 8 bit color mode: XWin -engine 1" And then, there is several thing that makes it hard for me: - I don't anything about X (what's pseudocolor?) - I don't know anything about DirectDraw (except that it comes with DirectX) - I don't have much time (bascally only week-ends). And besides that, I would be more motivated to work on the multiwindow mode :) > It might keep him from worrying about seeing multiple > cursors? "...I see dead cursors..." Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 10:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:26:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: <200206101725.g5AHPvE19358@pilot16.cl.msu.edu> Pille, > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm, could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? We have pseudocolor without going fullscreen. You have to use the GDI DIB- based engine, which is engine 1. For example: XWin -engine 1 Of course, you have to be running Windows at 8 bits per pixel to start with. On the other hand, if you are talking about supporting multiple visual types, that seems to be the promise of Keith Packard's Layer extension. Unfortunately, the layer extension is as well documented as the randr (resize and rotate) extension and the shadow extension: that is to say, not at all. (At least it is not documented from a server implementors perspective.) I've tried telling layer to create some new visual types but I was never successful. Harold From cjraven@haggis.nl Mon Jun 10 12:54:00 2002 From: cjraven@haggis.nl (Splatter van Upchuck) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:54:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) Message-ID: Greetings everyone! I just got cygwin installed as a precursor to installing RH Linux on a dedicated PC later. I figured this might be a good Linux learning experience. It's up and running, but I've hit a small roadblock I could use some help with. I have X86Free running (which frankly considering my newbie status I'm amazed by, but that's another story) however, I just have a clock and a couple of terminal windows...in other words what /~xinitrc specifies. To gain a better understanding of the desktop (as opposed to the only thing I've known in the past which is a CLI environment, I thought I'd like to get either KDE or Gnome up and running. I've seen them run on other folks' machines and it looks interesting. However....(and there's always a however) I don't see either of these packages as part of cygwin, yet the archives contain references to both. Can I grab an RPM (does cygwin support rpm's?) and just install it irrespective of the Win32 environment running "beneath" XFree and Cygwin itself? IS there a KDE or Gnome (or even enlightenment perhaps) package available for cygwin? I've done a couple of hours reading (which spared some newbie "please help me" posts earlier on) but this one eludes me completely. Can anyone point me at what I should be reading, or else can anyone answer the three questions above? Thanks & TIA -Splat From cjraven@haggis.nl Mon Jun 10 12:58:00 2002 From: cjraven@haggis.nl (Splatter van Upchuck) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:58:00 -0000 Subject: Webmin Message-ID: Greetings all! Is webmin supported under cygwin? Regards & TIA, -Splat From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 14:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:07:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) Message-ID: <200206102107.g5AL7DO33270@pilot19.cl.msu.edu> Neither Gnome nor KDE on Cygwin are ready for newbies yet. They are very preliminary packages. You have to really know what you are doing to get either of them working. I recommend that you just be happy with looking at KDE and Gnome on your friend's linux boxes. Harold From Eric_Peabody@hilton.com Mon Jun 10 14:28:00 2002 From: Eric_Peabody@hilton.com (Eric Peabody) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:28:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Message-ID: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F07178D63@cmxserv3.hilton.com> Running: Nt 4.0 SP 6a Outlook 2000 XFree86 1.9.12-1 xwinclip Test03 IE 5.5 SP2 With xwinclip running, it takes around a minute or so for Outlook to launch and load an external program. Most often this is a link to a web page and so IE is the program being launched but similar results are obtained if I launch an embedded spreadsheet or Word document. If I kill xwinclip it runs normally, taking a couple of seconds. Likewise, From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Jun 10 16:49:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:49:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock In-Reply-To: <3D04CA09.80805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <20020610234911.16096.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> > > It might keep him from worrying about seeing > multiple > > cursors? > > "...I see dead cursors..." "...I see dead people..." :) ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 17:47:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:47:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running In-Reply-To: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F07178D63@cmxserv3.hilton.com> Message-ID: Eric, Interesting. I've heard reports of this before. However, I'm unable to duplicate this problem. I suspect that the problem has something to do with the fact that X events don't come in that often, so we may not process our Windows events in a timely manner. I have been searching forever for a non-blocking equivalent to XNextEvent... and I finally found one! Here is Owen Taylor's response to someone looking for the same thing: http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-December/013978.html =========================================================================== > For reasons to do with a user interface element I'm working on, > I need something like select. Do the XCheck*Event() functions > block? I'm really reluctant to use pthreads, as this isn't portable > enough for what I'm trying to do. > > Specifically, if the app is in a certain state, I want to update the > window every 1/32 of a second, but I need to keep processing events too. > If XCheckWindowEvent() doesn't block, and is reasonably quick, it will > do perfectly. Does it? The standard way of doing a non-blocking check is if (XPending (display)) { XNextEvent (display, &event); } Using any of the XCheck*Event functions can be relatively slow, since they need to search the entire queue. (If you had to use one, I'd suggest using XCheckIfEvent with an appropriate predicate. But XPending() should be as good or better.) Of course, what real toolkits do is select() on ConnectionNumber(display) to know when they need to call XPending() without having to poll continuously. =========================================================================== I was very intrigued to see this. This not only means that I can make xwinclip better, but it means that I can finally integrate clipboard support into XWin.exe, since we'll actually be able to see some sort of shutdown message, rather than having XNextEvent fail and call exit (). (Obviously you can't integrate a clipboard client in the server if every time you reset you call exit ()... cause you would exit instead of resetting.) I've done a small rewrite of xwinclip to use select () on both the X event handle and /dev/windows (which is a socket that watches the Windows message queue). This should solve the problem that you are seeing with Outlook because we will process our Windows messages in a timely manner. I'll post the new xwinclip in just a few minutes. It won't be long now until we can get rid of xwinclip and have clipboard integration directly in XWin.exe. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 18:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running In-Reply-To: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F07178D63@cmxserv3.hilton.com> Message-ID: Eric, Please try the xwinclip-Test04 that I just released. I think it will fix your problem. Please report your results to the mailing list. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 18:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 04 to the xwinclip development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test04.exe.bz2 (4 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020610-2055.tar.bz2 (6 KB) Changes: 1) xwinclip.c - Use select () in ConnectionNumber(pDisplay) and /dev/windows instead of calling XNextEvent, which blocks until the next event. This has many benefits: Windows messages are now processed almost immediately after they come in (the old approach could take minutes), we can catch the X shutdown and restart messages rather than having XNextEvent call exit () when it sees that the connection has closed (we don't currently catch these events), and the clipboard integration code can now be rewritten with the assumption that we can and will see the Windows events when they arrive without an X event immediately preceeding them (which may allow us to stop stealing ownership of the X selection). (Harold Hunt) Here is a description of using select instead of XNextEvent: http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-December/013978.html Here are two examples of how to use select instead of XNextEvent: http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/tclhtml/tclFAQ/part2/faq-doc-54.html http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/graphics/X/signals.html (That second one is towards the bottom, just find `ConnectionNumber') 2) xwinclip.c - Move the X event loop into new function FlushXEventQueue. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 18:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:26:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) In-Reply-To: <003c01c210d3$c8c17260$0f00000a@Zeus> Message-ID: You have to keep replies to the mailing list. Someone on the list probably can explain this better than I. (And how would my time better be spent, developing features or answering simple questions that take a lot of writing? :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Splatter van Upchuck [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:09 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: Re: KDE (or gnome) > > > What else runs under XFree then? I can't figure that looking at a > couple of > terminal sessions and XClock constitutes the entire XFree86 > experience under > cygwin surely? Or does it??? > > > > Neither Gnome nor KDE on Cygwin are ready for newbies yet. > They are very > > preliminary packages. You have to really know what you are doing to get > > either of them working. > > Well, I had a hankering to actually wind up with a 'desktop' > believe it or not :-) Although I have one technically speaking, there's > absolutely nothing on it as I said above...so what am I missing Harold??? > > I recommend that you just be happy with looking at KDE and Gnome on your > > friend's linux boxes. > > I could use just a *little* help here......y'know..pointers in the right > direction? Else what is the point of cygwin to begin with...aside from the > avowed intent of allowing programmers to port stuff over from one > environment to another....surely that's not the only reason for cygwins' > existence???? > > Thanks for the response Harold....but please suggest ideas, I don't mind > doing a ton of reading and trying to make something work. > > -Splat > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 21:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:02:00 -0000 Subject: FW: KDE Bug # 40875 Message-ID: >From Peter Hircock: ========================================================== One thing I notice, is the icons that show up had a different format than the others: >From the file command: kisdndock.png: PNG image data, 16 x 16, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced kit.png: PNG image data, 16 x 16, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced kivio.png: PNG image data, 16 x 16, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced I can see kivio ( colormap ) , but not the color RGBA images. ========================================================== Looks like Waldo was right-on about the alpha channel causing problems. Now we just need to find out why Qt 3 or KDE 3 has a problem with our visuals and/or pixmap formats that causes problems with alpha channel bitmaps. Harold From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de Mon Jun 10 23:58:00 2002 From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:58:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: Message-ID: <3D059FC3.6020307@visicon-online.de> Hello! I am sorry to (maybe) destroy your enthusiasm but from my point of view there are some more reasons for not running either gnome or kde on cygwin: The main thing is: they are very large packages and even on my linux box they are that slow, that I prefer just using icewm as window manager and only have kde and gnome installed in case some application needs the libraries. If I start to compare cygwin running under win98 I really can not advise you to run kde or gnome - maybe on NT kernel based machines that is different. Cygwin is (and here the developers have made a real good job - Thanks!) a very good tool if you want to run applications like nedit (which is my favourite editor) and other basic unix routines I really miss under windows - but as any Operating system running on top of another one - it has it`s speed limitations. Another great usage for cygwin is to use it for running xdm sessions or if you have to do admin work on a unix box over the network (it has ssh, sftp and all the other nice tools which windooze does not have). So for me (personal opinion) it is a great (and long expected) extension to that "operating systems" from Redmond which I am forced to use some times... By the way: I would not even use kde or gnome with linux - but that is MY personal opinion about it. Please do not kill me for it! So again: Thanks to all the developers! Regards, Uwe From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Tue Jun 11 02:22:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:22:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A40B@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > From: Splatter van Upchuck [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > What else runs under XFree then? My windows development environment (for Win32 code, not cygwin code). I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my editor of choice, gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with visual studio. You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some even appear on my icewm tool bar). If you want a web browser, office apps etc then you may as well just use the native windows one - they work well. Cygwin comes in when I want a sane development environment, a nice shell (bash or cmd.exe - hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm working with and not fighting against my environment. Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix machines. With a few of the patches that have gone in over the last month and native clipboard support coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent queue then merging xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of things to do) it's very usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). Here's a question - can I stop windows from loading explorer on startup and get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could do this under Win95 - is it still possible under 2000 ? Stuart From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Tue Jun 11 03:56:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A40B@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <000c01c21136$58600870$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Hi, under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon you create a string value named Shell, and you put what you want in it (cmd.exe for example). May be it could be used to load CygWin ? I haven't tried it that way. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Adamson" To: "'Splatter van Upchuck '" Cc: "'cygx '" Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: RE: KDE (or gnome) > > From: Splatter van Upchuck [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > > > What else runs under XFree then? > > My windows development environment (for Win32 code, not cygwin code). > I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my editor of choice, > gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with visual studio. > You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some even appear on my > icewm tool bar). > > If you want a web browser, office apps etc then you may as well just > use the native windows one - they work well. Cygwin comes in when I > want a sane development environment, a nice shell (bash or cmd.exe - > hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm working with and not > fighting against my environment. > > Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix machines. With a few of the > patches that have gone in over the last month and native clipboard support > coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent queue then merging > xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of things to do) it's very > usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). > > > Here's a question - can I stop windows from loading explorer on startup and > get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could do this under Win95 > - is it still possible under 2000 ? > > > Stuart > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 11 04:10:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) In-Reply-To: <000c01c21136$58600870$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Message-ID: <20020611111048.64451.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> is the program that is named here laucnhed after winnt logon or is it replacing it ? > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows > NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon > > you create a string value named Shell, and you put > what you want in it > (cmd.exe for example). > > May be it could be used to load CygWin ? I haven't > tried it that way. > > CU > . \)|(/ > . (o o) > . > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > .(_| Francis VIVAT > | > . | CETP-CNRS > | > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > | > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > | > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > |_ > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > | ) > . > \---------------------------------------------------/ > . (_) (_) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Adamson" > > To: "'Splatter van Upchuck '" > Cc: "'cygx '" > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:21 AM > Subject: RE: KDE (or gnome) > > > > > From: Splatter van Upchuck > [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > > > > > What else runs under XFree then? > > > > My windows development environment (for Win32 > code, not cygwin code). > > I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my > editor of choice, > > gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with > visual studio. > > You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some > even appear on my > > icewm tool bar). > > > > If you want a web browser, office apps etc then > you may as well just > > use the native windows one - they work well. > Cygwin comes in when I > > want a sane development environment, a nice shell > (bash or cmd.exe - > > hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm > working with and not > > fighting against my environment. > > > > Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix > machines. With a few of the > > patches that have gone in over the last month and > native clipboard support > > coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent > queue then merging > > xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of > things to do) it's very > > usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). > > > > > > Here's a question - can I stop windows from > loading explorer on startup > and > > get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could > do this under Win95 > > - is it still possible under 2000 ? > > > > > > Stuart > > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Tue Jun 11 05:06:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:06:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: <20020611111048.64451.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801c21140$22ea6140$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Hi, it replaces explorer.exe (which is not lauched at all with this key present). In my example (cmd.exe), you just have a CMD window. It's really usefull if your explorer is causing trouble a startup. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Francis VIVAT" ; "Stuart Adamson" ; "'Splatter van Upchuck '" Cc: "'cygx '" Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: Re: KDE (or gnome) > is the program that is named here laucnhed after winnt > logon or is it replacing it ? > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows > > NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon > > > > you create a string value named Shell, and you put > > what you want in it > > (cmd.exe for example). > > > > May be it could be used to load CygWin ? I haven't > > tried it that way. > > > > CU > > . \)|(/ > > . (o o) > > . > > > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > > .(_| Francis VIVAT > > | > > . | CETP-CNRS > > | > > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > > | > > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > > | > > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > > |_ > > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > > | ) > > . > > > \---------------------------------------------------/ > > . (_) (_) > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stuart Adamson" > > > > To: "'Splatter van Upchuck '" > > Cc: "'cygx '" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:21 AM > > Subject: RE: KDE (or gnome) > > > > > > > > From: Splatter van Upchuck > > [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > > > > > > > What else runs under XFree then? > > > > > > My windows development environment (for Win32 > > code, not cygwin code). > > > I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my > > editor of choice, > > > gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with > > visual studio. > > > You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some > > even appear on my > > > icewm tool bar). > > > > > > If you want a web browser, office apps etc then > > you may as well just > > > use the native windows one - they work well. > > Cygwin comes in when I > > > want a sane development environment, a nice shell > > (bash or cmd.exe - > > > hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm > > working with and not > > > fighting against my environment. > > > > > > Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix > > machines. With a few of the > > > patches that have gone in over the last month and > > native clipboard support > > > coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent > > queue then merging > > > xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of > > things to do) it's very > > > usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). > > > > > > > > > Here's a question - can I stop windows from > > loading explorer on startup > > and > > > get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could > > do this under Win95 > > > - is it still possible under 2000 ? > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 05:21:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:21:00 -0000 Subject: mirrors.rcn.net Message-ID: <20020611122144.5842.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> FYI, It appears that on 06-10 the rcn mirror server (mirrors.rcn.net) had some sort of catastrophic storage failure. Thus, after repairs were made, it appears they are currently rsyncing their content, but god only know when they'll get around to rsyncing sources. So if anyone is curious, here's the status report: http://status.rcn.com/query.cgi?INDEX=200206101123&TABLE=Web&MODE=INDEX_QUERY Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 11 05:24:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) In-Reply-To: <001801c21140$22ea6140$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Message-ID: <20020611122451.30922.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> ceci dit, si je veux me d??barasser du logon Winnt classique, y a t il un moyen ? (je n'arrive pas encore ?? cerner le role de explorer.exe par rapport au login sur la machine.) --- Francis VIVAT a ??crit : > Hi, > > it replaces explorer.exe (which is not lauched at > all with this key > present). > In my example (cmd.exe), you just have a CMD window. > It's really usefull if > your explorer is causing trouble a startup. > > CU > . \)|(/ > . (o o) > . > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > .(_| Francis VIVAT > | > . | CETP-CNRS > | > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > | > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > | > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > |_ > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > | ) > . > \---------------------------------------------------/ > . (_) (_) ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Tue Jun 11 05:45:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:45:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: <20020611122451.30922.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003a01c21145$b69c56f0$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Il me semble que c'est une dll qui gere ca (msgina.dll). Mais la, tu vas changer pour tous les utilisateurs. Il existe des remplacement de cette DLL avec des ajouts. Par contre, si tu veux changer le logon pour avoir le logon Unix a la place ... ce n'est pas tout a fait gagne ;-) A+ . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Francis VIVAT" Cc: "'cygx '" Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: KDE (or gnome) > ceci dit, si je veux me d??barasser du logon Winnt > classique, y a t il un moyen ? (je n'arrive pas encore > ?? cerner le role de explorer.exe par rapport au login > sur la machine.) > > > --- Francis VIVAT a > ??crit : > Hi, > > > > it replaces explorer.exe (which is not lauched at > > all with this key > > present). > > In my example (cmd.exe), you just have a CMD window. > > It's really usefull if > > your explorer is causing trouble a startup. > > > > CU > > . \)|(/ > > . (o o) > > . > > > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > > .(_| Francis VIVAT > > | > > . | CETP-CNRS > > | > > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > > | > > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > > | > > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > > |_ > > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > > | ) > > . > > > \---------------------------------------------------/ > > . (_) (_) > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From geek@burri.to Tue Jun 11 06:59:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:59:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() Message-ID: <3619.128.2.120.244.1023803953.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Is it possible to make the X11 bell work? "xset q" tells me the bell should be ringing, but I can't seem to get it to work. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 07:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:05:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() Message-ID: <200206111405.g5BE5pi17956@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Brian, What version of Cygwin/XFree86 do you have? If you've got Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 installed via Cygwin's setup.exe (you can check the version string by running 'xdpyinfo' in an xterm) then the keyboard bell should work. There was a change in the last few months that fixed the keyboard bell. Specifically, it appears that Test54 was the release that first had a working keyboard bell: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/changelog.html Harold Brian Gallew said: > Is it possible to make the X11 bell work? "xset q" tells me the bell > should be ringing, but I can't seem to get it to work. > > From ekolomiets@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 09:10:00 2002 From: ekolomiets@yahoo.com (Elena Kolomiets) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:10:00 -0000 Subject: Installation Q's Message-ID: <20020611161033.55582.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I have installed Cygwin with default selection of packages (as suggested in user manual) and i am mising /usr/bin dirrectory and there are NO telnet has been installed for the Cygwin. Do you know if "inetutils" Common networking utilities and servers is included in a subset of programms for default installation? ===== Sincerely, Elena Kolomiets 3927 Hawk Owl Cove, College Station, TX 77845 (979)690-3172 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 09:36:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1: Xarch.h includes nonexistant (line 55) Message-ID: <20020611163652.2747.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I just wanted to report that when you include Xos.h in a program, it will then include Xarch.h. The problem is that Xarch.h will then try to include , which doesn't exist for our platform. Souldn't this be ? Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 10:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:51:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: <200206111751.g5BHpdi47912@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Feedback, I need feedback. I need someone who regularly experiences a xwinclip-Test03 causing another Windows application to become unresponsive or slow to test xwinclip-Test04 and tell me (on the mailing list) if xwinclip-Test04 corrects this behavior or not. Once I know that xwinclip-Test04 is better than xwinclip-Test03 I can start working on a way around stealing ownership of the X selection and bringing the clipboard integration into XWin.exe. The sooner the better, Harold From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Tue Jun 11 11:01:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:01:00 -0000 Subject: Key modifiers in TWM. Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A5905061005@acdfwx2.acdin.de.ittind.com> Hello, I can't get TWM to recognize at least a few key modifiers: control, shift, meta. I am working in /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc. TWM picks up other modifications to that file, but not the standard Button{1,2,3} bindings (it seems). To no avail, I tried using xmodmap to make explicit the Meta assignment to the left Alt key, i.e. 'xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L"', in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh just after XWin.exe. 'xev' show that the assignment was active. The Alt key seemed to work out-of-the-box some time ago (can't say when). Should it work like this today? I am using XWin-Test04 and the latest xfree86 packages (twm) available through cygwin's setup.exe. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:03:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1: Xarch.h includes nonexistant (line 55) Message-ID: <200206111803.g5BI30W15152@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Nicholas, > I just wanted to report that when you include Xos.h in a program, it will > then include Xarch.h. The problem is that Xarch.h will then try to > include , which doesn't exist for our platform. > Souldn't this be ? Wow. That just show how few applications have been compiled on Cygwin/XFree86 to date, as no one has ever mentioned that bug before. The idea behind machine/endian.h is to defined __LITTLE_ENDIAN, ntohl, ntohs, htonl, etc. The equivalent functionality in Cygwin is in asm/byteorder.h. byteorder.h is not included from sys/types.h (as far as I can tell) so we'll have to include asm/byteorder.h. Nice catch. I'll submit a patch to XFree86 for this. Harold From geek@burri.to Tue Jun 11 11:06:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:06:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() In-Reply-To: <200206111405.g5BE5pi17956@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111405.g5BE5pi17956@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3643.128.2.67.105.1023818738.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt said: > What version of Cygwin/XFree86 do you have? 4.2.0 as installed by setup. > Specifically, it appears that Test54 was the release that first had > a working keyboard bell: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/changelog.html Well, echo a ^G doesn't DTRT. Neither does "echo -e \\a". I've got a GTK+ application (running on another machine and displayed locally) which beeps just fine elsewhere, but not under xfree/cygwin. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:19:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1: Xarch.h includes nonexistant (line 55) Message-ID: <200206111818.g5BIIoo17970@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Oops. I have to do a full retraction of what I just said. I made a simple test program that compiles just fine. Xarch.c: ========================================================= #include #include int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { return 0; } ========================================================= Makefile: ========================================================= # # Don't forget to `ln -s /usr/X11R6/include/X11 /usr/include/X11' # CFLAGS = -g all: Xarch Xarch: Xarch.o gcc -o $@ Xarch.o ========================================================= I suspect that you are doing something non-standard, such as telling a source package that you are compiling on linux (to get a start at compiling under Cygwin), you are cross-compiling and forgetting to pass -Ulinux, or you're including some header file that defines something that screws up the logic in Xarch.h. So, which one is it? :) However, you did cause me to stumble upon a real issue that needs addressing: I need to make the XFree86-prog package post-install script make a link in /usr/include to /usr/X11R6/include/X11. That will save many a nightmare. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:24:00 -0000 Subject: Installation Q's Message-ID: <200206111823.g5BINco142228@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Elena, > i am mising > /usr/bin dirrectory In Windows Explorer you will not always see a c:\cygwin\usr\bin directory. Cygwin stores its binaries in c:\cygwin\bin and /usr/bin is just a link to /bin. Thus, in a Cygwin bash shell if you do an `ls /usr/bin' you'll see the contents of c:\cygwin\bin. Make sense? Good. > Do you know if > > "inetutils" Common networking utilities and servers > > is included in a subset of programms for default > installation? You need to manually select inetutils in order to get telnet. Heh... look more closely at the User's Guide. On this page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-downloading.html it says: "The default selection of packages should be okay for most users. However, you may wish to ensure that the inetutils and openssh packages are selected if you wish to use telnet and ssh to connect to remote machines." Harold From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Tue Jun 11 11:27:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:27:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Key modifiers in TWM. (and xwinclip-Test04) Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A5905061006@acdfwx2.acdin.de.ittind.com> Ah, I meant that I am using XWin-Test57.exe, not -Test04. xwinclip on the brain . . . By the way, if it helps, I do not notice unusual slowdowns (there are usual ones) in Outlook with xwinclip running. Vince Virgilio -----Original Message----- From: Virgilio, Vincent Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:00 PM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Key modifiers in TWM. Hello, I can't get TWM to recognize at least a few key modifiers: control, shift, meta. I am working in /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc. TWM picks up other modifications to that file, but not the standard Button{1,2,3} bindings (it seems). To no avail, I tried using xmodmap to make explicit the Meta assignment to the left Alt key, i.e. 'xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L"', in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh just after XWin.exe. 'xev' show that the assignment was active. The Alt key seemed to work out-of-the-box some time ago (can't say when). Should it work like this today? I am using XWin-Test04 and the latest xfree86 packages (twm) available through cygwin's setup.exe. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() Message-ID: <200206111830.g5BIUBI77752@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Brian, > Well, echo a ^G doesn't DTRT. Neither does "echo -e \\a". I've got a > GTK+ application (running on another machine and displayed locally) > which beeps just fine elsewhere, but not under xfree/cygwin. Okay. Do you have a sound-card or just a pc speaker on the machine that you use Cygwin/XFree86 on? If you've got a sound card and you have your Windows sounds configured so that no sound is played for the Default Beep, then you certainly won't here anything. Go into the Control Panel->Sounds and check that you have a sound configured. Click the play button and make sure that you hear the sound when it is played. Then run Cygwin/XFree86 and confirm that you do not hear the sound. I just did a test on a machine running Windows NT 4.0 without a sound card. "echo -c \\a" caused a pc speaker beep from both a Cygwin bash shell and from an xterm under Cygwin/XFree86. The two beeps were of a different pitch though... weird. Let us know your results, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:33:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:33:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. Harold > Yes, that fixed it. Very nice! > > Thanks for the quick response! > > Eric Peabody From eiffleduarte@cnps.embrapa.br Tue Jun 11 11:47:00 2002 From: eiffleduarte@cnps.embrapa.br (Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:47:00 -0000 Subject: Bug in WindowMaker? Message-ID: <3D06454E.9000203@cnps.embrapa.br> Hi, folks! I just downloaded Cygwin 1.3.10, which comes with XFree 4 binaries and a few window managers (TWM, FVWM, WindowMaker and OpenBox). After installing Cygwin, I altered startxwin.bat to load WindowMaker instead of TWM (the default window manager). However, when WindowMaker loads and drwas the Clip on the screen, I get a fatal error "Window Maker received signal 11". The message also says "This fatal error occured probably due to a bug". What is signal 11? Has anybody ran into this bug? I am using Windows 2000 SP2, in Portuguese. Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte, M.Sc. Pesquisador II EMBRAPA Solos Rua Jardim Bot??nico, 1024 Rio de Janeiro, RJ CEP 22460-000 Fone: (21) 2274-4999 RAMAL 249 FAX.: (21) 2274-5291 eiffleduarte@cnps.embrapa.br From jehan_something@hotmail.com Tue Jun 11 11:53:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:53:00 -0000 Subject: Bug in WindowMaker? References: <3D06454E.9000203@cnps.embrapa.br> Message-ID: <3D06473B.3060401@hotmail.com> Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte wrote: > Hi, folks! > > I just downloaded Cygwin 1.3.10, which comes with XFree 4 binaries and a > few window managers (TWM, FVWM, WindowMaker and OpenBox). > After installing Cygwin, I altered startxwin.bat to load WindowMaker > instead of TWM (the default window manager). However, when WindowMaker > loads and drwas the Clip on the screen, I get a fatal error "Window > Maker received signal 11". The message also says "This fatal error > occured probably due to a bug". > What is signal 11? Has anybody ran into this bug? > I am using Windows 2000 SP2, in Portuguese. I can't say that it's the same reason but I get the same error number if I try to run several screens at the same time XWin -screen 1 640 480 -screen 0 640 480 From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 11 13:04:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (cygwin/xfree86 and Windows clipboard integration) In-Reply-To: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020611200511.GE7474@redhat.com> On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 02:33:11PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. > >Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message >somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. And here's why: "Sorry, a message part has an unacceptable MIME Content-Type: application/ms-tnef" Apparently there was an attachment in the message. cgf From yelmalio@sartar.fsnet.co.uk Tue Jun 11 13:28:00 2002 From: yelmalio@sartar.fsnet.co.uk (Dave Barlow) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:28:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and DECwindows Message-ID: Folks Anyone out there got any experience making Xfree86 V4.2.0 work with OpenVMS V6.2 and DECwindows? From reading around Google searches I gather there is a xf86cfg and/or accessx program that heps set up .Xauthority properly. Unfortunately I can not seem to find this on the copy I just installed on Win NT and XP. The problem I have is that after setting up my display variable and starting an xterm, $SET DISP/CREATE/NODE=node/TRANSPORT=TCPIP and $CRE/TERM/DET in DCL, it returns 'cannot open display'. Digging around a little further it looks like my PC is rejecting the connection, error is 'connection rejected by node'. At first I thought this was because xauth was not configured properly. Unfortunately this older version of DECWindows does not support 'xauth generate' I noticed from Google that some one has configured XFree86 to use DECWindows so this is possible. Unfortunately I can't see what the magic button is that I have to push. My works, rather shockingly, has decided to adopt open source software in order to reduce costs. It's an airline so costs are a big deal at the moment. They have chosen Xfree86 as the preferred replacement to Exceed but no one appears to have tested it against VMS. Any one willing to deliver a clue by four? Dave "or a LART" Barlow From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 13:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:35:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and DECwindows Message-ID: <200206112035.g5BKZXo115796@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Dave, Some simple questions first, since you didn't mention them. 1) Did you run 'xhost %my_vms_hostname_or_ip_address' in a Cygwin/XFree86 xterm before launching an app on VMS? 2) Have you tried running XWin.exe with the -ac (no authentication) parameter as a test? That should give you a start. Harold Dave Barlow said: > Folks > > Anyone out there got any experience making Xfree86 V4.2.0 work with > OpenVMS V6.2 and DECwindows? From reading around Google searches I > gather there is a xf86cfg and/or accessx program that heps set up > .Xauthority properly. Unfortunately I can not seem to find this on the > copy I just installed on Win NT and XP. > > The problem I have is that after setting up my display variable and > starting an xterm, $SET DISP/CREATE/NODE=node/TRANSPORT=TCPIP and > $CRE/TERM/DET in DCL, it returns 'cannot open display'. Digging around > a little further it looks like my PC is rejecting the connection, > error is 'connection rejected by node'. At first I thought this was > because xauth was not configured properly. Unfortunately this older > version of DECWindows does not support 'xauth generate' > > I noticed from Google that some one has configured XFree86 to use > DECWindows so this is possible. Unfortunately I can't see what the > magic button is that I have to push. > > My works, rather shockingly, has decided to adopt open source software > in order to reduce costs. It's an airline so costs are a big deal at > the moment. They have chosen Xfree86 as the preferred replacement to > Exceed but no one appears to have tested it against VMS. > > Any one willing to deliver a clue by four? > > Dave "or a LART" Barlow > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 13:42:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:42:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes Message-ID: <200206112042.g5BKgAW154216@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> I'm always wondering about ways to improve our non-U.S. keyboard support and I'm currently wondering if the MapVirtualKeyEx function returns a different scan code than we get with WM_KEY* and WM_SYSKEY* messages. If so this may give us an alternate method of handling non-U.S. keyboards. I need some non-U.S. keyboard testers to run this test program and send their output to the list. You'll need to feed the test program's window some key presses. Be sure to press some general keys such as 'a', 'enter', 'left arrow', etc. as well as some non-standard keys like 'AltGr+1', etc. Thanks, Harold P.S. The files are attached. I was going to post them to the web, but they are less than 5 KB, which I've compensated for by not being too wordy :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: KeyboardLayoutTest.exe.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2059 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: KeyboardLayoutTest-src.tar.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2112 bytes Desc: not available URL: From g00fball1@hotmail.com Tue Jun 11 13:43:00 2002 From: g00fball1@hotmail.com (s h) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip test 4 freezes XWindows Message-ID: details start XWin with xwinclip all seems well copy and paste between xterm and MS Word a couple of times (both ways) all seems well leave it running for about 30 minutes go back to my xterm and highlight a block of text xfree86 freezes if I kill xwinclip, it's fine again. scott _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From quetschke@scytek.de Tue Jun 11 14:00:00 2002 From: quetschke@scytek.de (Volker Quetschke) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes References: <200206112042.g5BKgAW154216@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3D0664F3.7020404@scytek.de> Hi Harold! > I need some non-U.S. keyboard testers to run this test program and send their > output to the list. You'll need to feed the test program's window some key > presses. Be sure to press some general keys such as 'a', 'enter', 'left > arrow', etc. as well as some non-standard keys like 'AltGr+1', etc. Atached you find the log for some keys on a german keyboard. Volker -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: somekeys.txt URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 14:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:03:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip test 4 freezes XWindows Message-ID: <200206112103.g5BL3WU21428@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Scott, Did xwinclip-Test03 lack this "functionality"? Or, is xwinclip-Test04 the first version that you have used? Harold s h said: > details > > start XWin with xwinclip > all seems well > copy and paste between xterm and MS Word a couple of times (both ways) > all seems well > leave it running for about 30 minutes > go back to my xterm and highlight a block of text > xfree86 freezes > if I kill xwinclip, it's fine again. > > scott > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 15:17:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:17:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes In-Reply-To: <3D0664F3.7020404@scytek.de> Message-ID: Volker, > Atached you find the log for some keys on a german keyboard. > Thanks. That pretty much answers my question. Unfortunatly, it did not give me the answer I was looking for. Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function that returns the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating certain non-U.S. characters? Harold From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 11 15:35:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:35:00 -0000 Subject: setxkbmap twice Message-ID: <20020611223511.40575.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, looking in the mail archives I found that setxkbmap is needed to setup the keyboard layout. so I created a ~/.xinitrc like this : . /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc setxkbmap -layout fr It seems to function (no error message on console) but my keyboard is US. if I issue 'setxkbmap -layout fr' once, I get : Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property Use defaults:rules - 'xfree86' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' if I issue it a second time, I get no message and the layout is set up. Comments ? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From ugn@hotmail.com Tue Jun 11 21:13:00 2002 From: ugn@hotmail.com (Eugene Rosenzweig) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:13:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() References: <3619.128.2.120.244.1023803953.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Message-ID: On my system the I get the beep through the speakers. The default beep is enabled in the control panel. The funny thing though, similarly to Harold I get different pitches, I get a high-pitched beep from the cmd.exe that sounds like a pc speaker but is coming from soundcard but from bash I get the sound I defined in the control panel. There was a thread on this before in cygwin list and more than once. Does not really relate to the XFree but I thought I'd mention it, maybe it is related somehow. There is one with Subject: 'Beeping' from 16/03/2002 on how to turn beeping OFF for readline (echo set bell-style none >>~.inputrc), for vi (:set vb) and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Sound\Beep registry key which I think would be toggled by the control panel anyway but still would not hurt to check. My rxvt does not beep because I run it with -vb option (no visual bell). There is same option for xterm. Could this be somehow related to the problem? I cannot check because my xfree is older than the packaged ones and does not beep at all. Eugene. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Gallew" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:59 PM Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() > Is it possible to make the X11 bell work? "xset q" tells me the bell > should be ringing, but I can't seem to get it to work. > From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Tue Jun 11 23:30:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:30:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan code Message-ID: <3D06EAC7.2554EFFE@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Hello. Fere is the result of some key pressed on a french keyboard. Gilles Civario. $ KeyboardLayoutTest.exe KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN is the same as tha t returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call to GetKeyboardLayout. KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: 0000040C Locale name: French key name: A vk: 65 msg_sc: 16 mvk_sc: 16 key name: Z vk: 90 msg_sc: 17 mvk_sc: 17 key name: E vk: 69 msg_sc: 18 mvk_sc: 18 key name: VERR.MAJ vk: 20 msg_sc: 58 mvk_sc: 58 key name: MAJ vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: MAJ DROITE vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 key name: CTRL DROITE vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: CTRL vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: ALT vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: ALT DROITE vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: & vk: 49 msg_sc: 2 mvk_sc: 2 key name: ?? vk: 50 msg_sc: 3 mvk_sc: 3 key name: " vk: 51 msg_sc: 4 mvk_sc: 4 key name: ' vk: 52 msg_sc: 5 mvk_sc: 5 key name: RET.ARR vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 key name: ENTREE vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: INS vk: 45 msg_sc: 82 mvk_sc: 82 key name: SUPPR vk: 46 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 key name: ORIGINE vk: 36 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 key name: FIN vk: 35 msg_sc: 79 mvk_sc: 79 key name: PG.PREC vk: 33 msg_sc: 73 mvk_sc: 73 key name: PG.SUIV vk: 34 msg_sc: 81 mvk_sc: 81 key name: ECHAP vk: 27 msg_sc: 1 mvk_sc: 1 key name: ?? vk: 222 msg_sc: 41 mvk_sc: 41 key name: Ver.Num vk: 144 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 69 key name: 7 (PAVE NUM.) vk: 103 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 key name: . (PAVE NUM.) vk: 110 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 key name: ENTREE (PAVE NUM.) vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: + (PAVE NUM.) vk: 107 msg_sc: 78 mvk_sc: 78 key name: - (PAVE NUM.) vk: 109 msg_sc: 74 mvk_sc: 74 key name: * (PAVE NUM.) vk: 106 msg_sc: 55 mvk_sc: 55 key name: / (PAVE NUM.) vk: 111 msg_sc: 53 mvk_sc: 53 key name: DEFIL vk: 145 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 key name: ATTN vk: 3 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 key name: HAUT vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 key name: BAS vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 key name: GAUCHE vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 key name: DROITE vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 key name: WINDOWS GAUCHE vk: 91 msg_sc: 91 mvk_sc: 91 key name: WINDOWS DROITE vk: 92 msg_sc: 92 mvk_sc: 92 key name: APPLICATION vk: 93 msg_sc: 93 mvk_sc: 93 key name: F1 vk: 112 msg_sc: 59 mvk_sc: 59 key name: F12 vk: 123 msg_sc: 88 mvk_sc: 88 From rkarcher@frey.de Wed Jun 12 00:02:00 2002 From: rkarcher@frey.de (Reinhard Karcher) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:02:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and DECwindows In-Reply-To: <200206112035.g5BKZXo115796@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206112035.g5BKZXo115796@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020612070500.GA1109@Amis.berlin.frey> On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 04:35:32PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote > Dave, > > Some simple questions first, since you didn't mention them. > > 1) Did you run 'xhost %my_vms_hostname_or_ip_address' in a Cygwin/XFree86 > xterm before launching an app on VMS? > > 2) Have you tried running XWin.exe with the -ac (no authentication) parameter > as a test? > > Dave Barlow said: > > Anyone out there got any experience making Xfree86 V4.2.0 work with > > OpenVMS V6.2 and DECwindows? From reading around Google searches I > > gather there is a xf86cfg and/or accessx program that heps set up > > .Xauthority properly. Unfortunately I can not seem to find this on the > > copy I just installed on Win NT and XP. > > > > The problem I have is that after setting up my display variable and > > starting an xterm, $SET DISP/CREATE/NODE=node/TRANSPORT=TCPIP and > > $CRE/TERM/DET in DCL, it returns 'cannot open display'. Digging around > > a little further it looks like my PC is rejecting the connection, > > error is 'connection rejected by node'. At first I thought this was > > because xauth was not configured properly. Unfortunately this older > > version of DECWindows does not support 'xauth generate' > > Hi, its working for me with OpenVMS 6.0. I do xhost +ipaddress_of_VMS, wait for the X-Server to start and then: start rexec VMS -l user @startup.com on Win NT. startup.com execute the commands from dave: $SET DISPLAY ... and $CRE ... It's working too, if I do telnet to VMS and start startup.com. I don't do any authorization things. Perhaps there are some configurations missing on the VMS. Check with your systemadminstrator. Reinhard From Joerg.Schaible@gft.com Wed Jun 12 03:05:00 2002 From: Joerg.Schaible@gft.com (Schaible, Jorg) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:05:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translati on of scan codes Message-ID: <1264BCF4F426D611B0B00050DA782A50014C26B8@mail.gft.com> >From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function >that returns >the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating >certain non-U.S. >characters? It seems some MS tech folk do not trust WinWord also writing their documentations ... :) From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Wed Jun 12 03:30:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:30:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan code References: <3D06EAC7.2554EFFE@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Message-ID: <019701c211fb$e6a59530$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Same test on my French keyboard, same result : just on key is different, the right shift. Thanks for your non-US consideration, Harold :-) CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gilles civario" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: Re: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan code > > Hello. > > Fere is the result of some key pressed on a french keyboard. > > Gilles Civario. > > > $ KeyboardLayoutTest.exe > KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN is the same as tha > t returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call > to GetKeyboardLayout. > > KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: 0000040C > > Locale name: French > > key name: A > vk: 65 msg_sc: 16 mvk_sc: 16 > > key name: Z > vk: 90 msg_sc: 17 mvk_sc: 17 > > key name: E > vk: 69 msg_sc: 18 mvk_sc: 18 > > key name: VERR.MAJ > vk: 20 msg_sc: 58 mvk_sc: 58 > > key name: MAJ > vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 > > Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different > > key name: MAJ DROITE > vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 > > key name: CTRL DROITE > vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 > > key name: CTRL > vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 > > key name: ALT > vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 > > key name: ALT DROITE > vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 > > key name: & > vk: 49 msg_sc: 2 mvk_sc: 2 > > key name: ?? > vk: 50 msg_sc: 3 mvk_sc: 3 > > key name: " > vk: 51 msg_sc: 4 mvk_sc: 4 > > key name: ' > vk: 52 msg_sc: 5 mvk_sc: 5 > > key name: RET.ARR > vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 > > key name: ENTREE > vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 > > key name: INS > vk: 45 msg_sc: 82 mvk_sc: 82 > > key name: SUPPR > vk: 46 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 > > key name: ORIGINE > vk: 36 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 > > key name: FIN > vk: 35 msg_sc: 79 mvk_sc: 79 > > key name: PG.PREC > vk: 33 msg_sc: 73 mvk_sc: 73 > > key name: PG.SUIV > vk: 34 msg_sc: 81 mvk_sc: 81 > > key name: ECHAP > vk: 27 msg_sc: 1 mvk_sc: 1 > > key name: ?? > vk: 222 msg_sc: 41 mvk_sc: 41 > > key name: Ver.Num > vk: 144 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 69 > > key name: 7 (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 103 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 > > key name: . (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 110 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 > > key name: ENTREE (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 > > key name: + (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 107 msg_sc: 78 mvk_sc: 78 > > key name: - (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 109 msg_sc: 74 mvk_sc: 74 > > key name: * (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 106 msg_sc: 55 mvk_sc: 55 > > key name: / (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 111 msg_sc: 53 mvk_sc: 53 > > key name: DEFIL > vk: 145 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 > > key name: ATTN > vk: 3 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 > > key name: HAUT > vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 > > key name: BAS > vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 > > key name: GAUCHE > vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 > > key name: DROITE > vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 > > key name: WINDOWS GAUCHE > vk: 91 msg_sc: 91 mvk_sc: 91 > > key name: WINDOWS DROITE > vk: 92 msg_sc: 92 mvk_sc: 92 > > key name: APPLICATION > vk: 93 msg_sc: 93 mvk_sc: 93 > > key name: F1 > vk: 112 msg_sc: 59 mvk_sc: 59 > > key name: F12 > vk: 123 msg_sc: 88 mvk_sc: 88 > From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Wed Jun 12 03:51:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:51:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translati on of scan codes Message-ID: I do not get any TeX sequencenses in any keys for my danish Thinkpad keyboard. There allthough some specific things I observed : No multi-press detected ie. all keypresses are detected as seperate events. AltGr is recorded as CTRL key plus AltGR Sometimes Shift and AltGr seems not to be caught by the program (difficult to reproduce - it might be my keyboard allthough I do not think so...) Here is some examples : KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOW N is the same as that returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call to GetKeyboardLayout. KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: 00000406 Locale name: Danish key name: SKIFT vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 key name: CTRL vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: ALT vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: HOJRE CTRL vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: HOJRE SKIFT vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: HOJRE SKIFT vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 key name: PIL OP vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 key name: HOJRE PIL vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 key name: VENSTRE PIL vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 key name: PIL NED vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 key name: ? vk: 221 msg_sc: 26 mvk_sc: 26 key name: ? vk: 192 msg_sc: 39 mvk_sc: 39 key name: o vk: 222 msg_sc: 40 mvk_sc: 40 key name: ' vk: 191 msg_sc: 43 mvk_sc: 43 key name: TREMA vk: 186 msg_sc: 27 mvk_sc: 27 key name: ACCENT AIGU vk: 219 msg_sc: 13 mvk_sc: 13 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: PAUSE vk: 19 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 0 Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen "Schaible, Jorg" @cygwin.com on 12-06-2002 12:05:04 Please respond to "Schaible, Jorg" Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: Subject: RE: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translati on of scan codes >From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function >that returns >the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating >certain non-U.S. >characters? It seems some MS tech folk do not trust WinWord also writing their documentations ... :) From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 04:47:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:47:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: So I gave undue credit, ah well, it won't make up for all the times people receive "stank voor dank" (hard to translate: sh*t for thanks). I thought you had found out about phantom key release messages? I have to scan the mailing list in a hurry, there is other work to do. I don't know enough about pseudocolor either, just some Oracle products need it, and at higher depths xdpyinfo shows that XWin delivers truecolor. Before XWin I was using Kea!X, and they had a option that allowed pseudocolor. I didn't get the "I see dead cursors". What is it referring to? Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Jehan [mailto:jehan_something@hotmail.com] Sent: maandag 10 juni 2002 16:47 To: Cygwin XFree Subject: Re: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > couldn't wait, so I went home during the midday-break to fetch it, and > indeed, both problems have mysteriously disappeared. I hope it's not too mysterious or Harold may feel it as an insult to his programming skills!! ;) > Thank you, (and Boy Wonder Jehan, if I followed the mailings correctly). Nope, I didn't do anything about it except reminding Harold. But you're welcome :) > What a pity, do we now have a product that is perfect? No because I see doubled cursors ;) > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm And before you said I was a boy. What make you think that I'm so young? I left school several years ago already. Gosh time is going fast. > could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? Maybe he likes a > little challenge? From a mail from Harold on February: "You CAN run in windowed mode (instead of fullscreen) if you run XWin.exe with the -engine 1 argument and you have Windows in 8 bit color mode: XWin -engine 1" And then, there is several thing that makes it hard for me: - I don't anything about X (what's pseudocolor?) - I don't know anything about DirectDraw (except that it comes with DirectX) - I don't have much time (bascally only week-ends). And besides that, I would be more motivated to work on the multiwindow mode :) > It might keep him from worrying about seeing multiple > cursors? "...I see dead cursors..." Jehan =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From quetschke@scytek.de Wed Jun 12 04:52:00 2002 From: quetschke@scytek.de (Volker Quetschke) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes References: Message-ID: <3D073611.6040806@scytek.de> Hi Harold! >>Atached you find the log for some keys on a german keyboard. > > Thanks. That pretty much answers my question. Unfortunatly, it did not > give me the answer I was looking for. > > Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function that returns > the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating certain non-U.S. > characters? Sorry, I the file contained some non ascii codes, ??????, and I added the tex comment to document the keys I pressed. Volker From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 04:59:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:59:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: Please call me Geert or Gerard, only my friends call me by my surname ;-) I prefer using XWin fullscreen if I need pseudocolor, to running Windows 8 bit. And I only need it rarely, just for one Oracle product (reports). Anyway, for that purpose I've confiscated an old portable and I'm putting Redhat on it, so I can use that when I need pseudocolor. Keep up the good hacking, Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: maandag 10 juni 2002 18:26 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Pille, > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm, could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? We have pseudocolor without going fullscreen. You have to use the GDI DIB- based engine, which is engine 1. For example: XWin -engine 1 Of course, you have to be running Windows at 8 bits per pixel to start with. On the other hand, if you are talking about supporting multiple visual types, that seems to be the promise of Keith Packard's Layer extension. Unfortunately, the layer extension is as well documented as the randr (resize and rotate) extension and the shadow extension: that is to say, not at all. (At least it is not documented from a server implementors perspective.) I've tried telling layer to create some new visual types but I was never successful. Harold =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 05:13:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 05:13:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Message-ID: Performance problem solved, but copies only from windoze to XWin (probably that is why it's only 8K as to the 30K original). Tested running XWin fullscreen. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: dinsdag 11 juni 2002 2:25 To: Eric Peabody; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Eric, Please try the xwinclip-Test04 that I just released. I think it will fix your problem. Please report your results to the mailing list. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ Thanks, Harold =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 06:11:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-test04 Message-ID: cuts and pastes both ways when not running fullscreen. performance problem remains solved. xwinclip-test04 dumpes core when XWin runs fullscreen, but only after a while. Here ends our transmission. Gerard. =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From geek@burri.to Wed Jun 12 06:17:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:17:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() In-Reply-To: <200206111830.g5BIUBI77752@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111830.g5BIUBI77752@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <2635.128.2.120.244.1023887815.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt said: > Okay. Do you have a sound-card or just a pc speaker on the machine > that you use Cygwin/XFree86 on? Sound card (well, Crystal Audio built-in, it's a laptop). > If you've got a sound card and you have your Windows sounds > configured so that no sound is played for the Default Beep, then > you certainly won't here anything. Go into the Control > Panel->Sounds and check that you have a sound configured. Click > the play button and make sure that you hear the sound when it is > played. Then run Cygwin/XFree86 and confirm that you do not hear > the sound. Definitely. The "Default Beep" is set and plays correctly. But there's no sound within XFree. > I just did a test on a machine running Windows NT 4.0 without a > sound card. "echo -c \\a" caused a pc speaker beep from both a > Cygwin bash shell and from an xterm under Cygwin/XFree86. The two > beeps were of a different pitch though... weird. If I start up bash.exe using the WinXP explorer, I can get it to beep. If I start up an rxvt instead, no beep. Inside XFree, no beep. I find no reference to beep in any of my app-defaults file (or the system ones, for that matter). xrdb -query reveals nothing useful, either. Frankly, I'm baffled. From geek@burri.to Wed Jun 12 06:21:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:21:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) In-Reply-To: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <4868.128.2.120.244.1023888040.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt said: > Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. > Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message > somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. Most likely he's using MS Outlook and/or MS Exchange. They're famouns for adding ms-tnef bits to messages. It *can* be disabled, but I have no idea how to do it myself. I just know that the vendors who still do business with me have all figured out how to do it. The ones who couldn't figure it out no longer do business with me. From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 07:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:05:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Message-ID: <200206121405.g5CE5Eo29128@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Gerard, I've been able to copy both directions. Have you tried a simple copy operation in X, like selecting text with the mouse in an xterm? (Notice that the selected text will immediately be unselected... that is xwinclip grabbing the text and copying it to the Windows clipboard) Harold "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" said: > Performance problem solved, but copies only from windoze to XWin (probably > that is why it's only 8K as to the 30K original). Tested running XWin > fullscreen. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: dinsdag 11 juni 2002 2:25 > To: Eric Peabody; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe > running > > > Eric, > > Please try the xwinclip-Test04 that I just released. I think it will fix > your problem. > > Please report your results to the mailing list. > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ > > Thanks, > > Harold > > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. > > From jehan_something@hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 08:50:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock References: Message-ID: <3D076DC8.3010804@hotmail.com> Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > So I gave undue credit, ah well, it won't make up for all the times people > receive "stank voor dank" (hard to translate: sh*t for thanks). I thought > you had found out about phantom key release messages? I have to scan the > mailing list in a hurry, there is other work to do. I just wanted to make it clear. I didn't want to steal any credit. But thanks for the thought :) > I didn't get the "I see dead cursors". What is it referring to? As Sylvain mentioned, it's a reference to "The 6th Sense" where the little boy says "I see dead people". For some reason, each time I hear/read "I see " I can't help to think about this reference. And since I'm seing cursor that, to me, should not be visible (sort of ghost cursors)..... Jehan From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Wed Jun 12 09:35:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:35:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A412@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > thanks). I thought > > you had found out about phantom key release messages? I > have to scan the > > mailing list in a hurry, there is other work to do. > > I just wanted to make it clear. I didn't want to steal any > credit. But > thanks for the thought :) The phantom key release fix was mine. > (sort of ghost cursors)..... You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - now I keep seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). Stuart From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 09:53:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:53:00 -0000 Subject: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A412@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: > > (sort of ghost cursors)..... > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - now I keep > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). However this gets fixed, just make sure that the behavior is configurable via a command-line parameter and have the default be the current behavior. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 10:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:00:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. This is a synchronization with all the fixes that have been applied Server Test Series - Test 57. These fixes are listed below: 1) winwndproc.c - Call DefWindowProc after processing WM_NCMOUSEMOVE messages. This should fix the highlighting of the minimize and exit buttons in Windows XP. (Jehan Bing) 2) winwndproc.c, win.h, winallpriv.c - Make the cursor state variable, fCursor, a static local variable in winwndproc.c/winWindowProc (), rather than a member variable in the winPrivScreenRec structure. This makes sense because the Windows cursor is either hidden or shown, as Windows does not hide or show the mouse cursor on a per-window basis. This also greatly simplifies the handling of hiding and showing the Windows mouse cursor. (Jehan Bing) 3) InitOutput.c, win.h, wincreatewnd.c - Add a -nodecoration parameter that creates the Cygwin/XFree86 window that is the same size as the desktop, without a border. The end effect is that you can still get to the taskbar (even with Auto Hide enabled) and easily switch to other application while not giving up any screen space to the title bar, borders, etc. (Jehan Bing) 4) winkeybd.c - Disregard the bogus key releases that we see when losing the focus via Alt+Tab. (Stuart Adamson) 5) win.h, winkeybd.h, winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c - Release all pressed keys when the X server loses the keyboard focus. (Stuart Adamson) 6) InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) 7) wincursor.c - See if we are the foreground window before warping the Windows cursor position. This fixes the new bug that occurs if you launch Cygwin/XFree86 and give another application the focus. In that case the Windows mouse cursor would still jump to the center of the screen, even though the Cygwin/XFree86 window was not active. (Harold Hunt) 8) winkeybd.h - Fix the bug where pressing both shift keys then releasing them both would still cause all keyboard input to be shift-modified. The fix was to set the fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT key to KEY_ShiftL. (Harold Hunt) 9) wincreatewnd.c - Pass SW_SHOWNORMAL instead of SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when running a DirectDraw engine in fullscreen mode. This fixes the bug where launching Cygwin/XFree86 then giving another application the focus before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed would cause Cygwin/XFree86 to never display a window or register a window handle on the Windows taskbar. (Harold Hunt) -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 10:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:36:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 05 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 05 to the xwinclip development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test05.exe.bz2 (4 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020612-1316.tar.bz2 (8 KB) Changes: 1) xwinclip.c - Break this single source file into xwinclip.c, textconv.c, textconv.h, wndproc.c, wndproc.h, xevents.c, and xevents.h. (Harold Hunt) 2) xwinclip.c - Pause and loop to retry, after a delay, if we fail while opening the display. (Harold Hunt) 3) xwinclip.c - Remove a call to XSelectInput that was operating on our own window and always returning BadWindow. Apparently the event mask for our own window has to be changed with XChangeWindowAttributes. I've put a #if0'd example of using XChangeWindowAttributes into the file. (Harold Hunt) 4) xwinclip.c - Remove a call to XFlush. It doesn't seem necessary to flush any events in our queue before we start processing events. However, I may have read somewhere that we have to do this, so I may have to re-add this call to XFlush later. (Harold Hunt) 5) xwinclip.c - Create an atom for WM_DELETE_WINDOW. This will get is an X event when a window manager is about to kill us. However, it does nothing for the case where the server is told to GiveUp (). (Harold Hunt) 6) xwinclip.c - In CreateMessagingWindow, add a call to ShowWindow passing SW_HIDE and add a call to UpdateWindow. I'm not sure, but these may be necessary to kick off Windows event processing. On a strange note - the current xwinclip doesn't process any Windows messages. (Harold Hunt) 7) xevents.c - Add handling for WM_DELETE_WINDOW. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 10:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-test04 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gerard, How long is awhile? 20 seconds or 30 minutes? If it dumps core after 20 seconds then it is because XWin.exe is taking too long to launch so OpenDisplay fails. Test05 fixes that problem. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd) > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:11 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: xwinclip-test04 > > > cuts and pastes both ways when not running fullscreen. > > performance problem remains solved. > > xwinclip-test04 dumpes core when XWin runs fullscreen, but only after a > while. > > Here ends our transmission. > > Gerard. > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have > received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email > that the intended recipient was not reached. > From jehan@bravobrava.com Wed Jun 12 12:10:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:10:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A412@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <3D079C9A.3050605@bravobrava.com> >>(sort of ghost cursors)..... > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - now I keep > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). I did but without configuration so Harold removed that part from the code. But it's easy to redo (remove cursor processing from WM_ACTIVATE and WM_ACTIVATEAPP and don't check for pScreenPriv->fActive in WM_MOUVEMOVE). I won't do it until next week-end so if you want to look at it before that, feel free. Jehan From milind@sybase.com Wed Jun 12 12:46:00 2002 From: milind@sybase.com (Milind Potdar) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:46:00 -0000 Subject: Question about running interactive program in xterm session Message-ID: <200206121946.g5CJkcg12793@lancaster.sybase.com> Environment - ----------- NT 4.0 xterm version 4.2.0(165) What I am trying to do ---------------------- Run isql ( interactive sql ) When you run isql interactively, you get a prompt 1> Behaviour --------- If I open xterm session & try to run isql, all the prompts from isql "do not" come to screen. But otherwise it behaves perfectly ok. ie you input sql commands & get back results. It is as if there is some special buffer which stores whatever isql is prompting but it is not getting flushed. At the same time sql command results come back & are visible. >From normal cygwin command shell, there is no problem with isql execution. Has anyone experienced similar problem ? Is there any xterm property which needs to be set to make this work ? Thanks in advance for any help Milind .. From fbregier@webmails.com Wed Jun 12 13:18:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:18:00 -0000 Subject: Error: can't load javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel Message-ID: <20020612142332.14093.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Wed Jun 12 15:21:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receiv es tab / pressing both...) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFB8@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Okay - attached is a patch which does this. I've tested it with and without the -nodecoration flag (the windows mouse pointer still appears when you're over the windows title bar). Added an entry to the man page as well. The magic command line argument is -hidewindowspointerwheninactive. Somebody might be able to come up with a slightly nicer name ;) In InitOutput.c I've initialized the ScreenInfo member for it to false as fFullScreen is also initialized to false - however I don't think either of these are needed as ZeroMemory() is called on the structure which should do this for us. Was this an oversight when adding fFullScreen or is it like this to aid readability? Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: 12 June 2002 17:53 > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / > pressing both...) > > > > > (sort of ghost cursors)..... > > > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - > now I keep > > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). > > However this gets fixed, just make sure that the behavior is > configurable > via a command-line parameter and have the default be the > current behavior. > > Harold > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mousehide.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3577 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jehan_something@hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 16:02:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:02:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receiv es tab / pressing both...) References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFB8@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <3D07D317.6030302@hotmail.com> Stuart Adamson wrote: > The magic command line argument is -hidewindowspointerwheninactive. > Somebody might > be able to come up with a slightly nicer name ;) What about "-noghostcursor" ? That's not very self-explanatory but if the man page and the help parameter give enough explanation, it may work. Or what about "-iwanttoseenodeadcursor"? It's slightly shorter ;) > In InitOutput.c I've initialized the ScreenInfo member for it to false as > fFullScreen > is also initialized to false - however I don't think either of these are > needed as > ZeroMemory() is called on the structure which should do this for us. > Was this an oversight when adding fFullScreen or is it like this to aid > readability? To me, it's always better to have explicit initialization, it makes thing clearer to see. ZeroMemory is good either for time critical sections (and initialization isn't) or for those who forget to initialize their variable but it's quite obfuscating. If one wants to know where a variable is initialized, he will look for the variable name. With ZeroMem, he won't find anything. Moreover, if he want to change the default value of some thing (let say fHideWindowsPointerWhenInactive ;)), he won't have to search for the place where to put the code (even if in our case it's obvious). And since Harold (and any good programmer I think) wants to make to code easy to ready, I thinks explicit initialization is the best. And if one of the two way should go away, I vote for removing ZeroMem. :) Jehan From haro@tt.kubota.co.jp Wed Jun 12 17:25:00 2002 From: haro@tt.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:25:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes Message-ID: <3D07E734.5472B1FA@tt.kubota.co.jp> Hello Harold and All, Here's the output from Japanese keyboard. I hope it helps, Thank you, Haro =----------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Kubota Graphics Technology Inc. /|\ |_| |_|_| 2-8-8 Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0022, Japan Tel: +81-3-3225-0931 Fax: +81-3-3225-0749 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp -------------- next part -------------- KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN is the same as that returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call to GetKeyboardLayout. KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: e0200411 Locale name: Japanese key name: A vk: 65 msg_sc: 30 mvk_sc: 30 key name: 1 vk: 49 msg_sc: 2 mvk_sc: 2 key name: \ vk: 220 msg_sc: 125 mvk_sc: 125 key name: ^ vk: 222 msg_sc: 13 mvk_sc: 13 key name: - vk: 189 msg_sc: 12 mvk_sc: 12 key name: Backspace vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 key name: Enter vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: Esc vk: 27 msg_sc: 1 mvk_sc: 1 key name: F1 vk: 112 msg_sc: 59 mvk_sc: 59 key name: Scroll Lock vk: 145 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: Pause vk: 19 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 0 key name: Insert vk: 45 msg_sc: 82 mvk_sc: 82 key name: Home vk: 36 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 key name: Page Up vk: 33 msg_sc: 73 mvk_sc: 73 key name: Delete vk: 46 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 key name: End vk: 35 msg_sc: 79 mvk_sc: 79 key name: Page Down vk: 34 msg_sc: 81 mvk_sc: 81 key name: Left vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 key name: Down vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 key name: Right vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 key name: Up vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 key name: Backspace vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 key name: Enter vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: Right Control vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: Application vk: 93 msg_sc: 93 mvk_sc: 93 key name: Right Windows vk: 92 msg_sc: 92 mvk_sc: 92 key name: Right Alt vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: Ctrl vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: Shift vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 key name: Tab vk: 9 msg_sc: 15 mvk_sc: 15 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: ??/?? vk: 229 msg_sc: 41 mvk_sc: 0 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Jun 12 20:31:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:31:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin Message-ID: <20020613033112.63074.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi there, looking on cygwin.com/packages show there isn't a package for gtk. 1/ does it compile for now ? 2/ if ok, why haven't we a package for that ? I looked on cygwin & cygwin-xfree archives and didn't find a thread on it. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From eugenius@xis.com.au Wed Jun 12 22:01:00 2002 From: eugenius@xis.com.au (Eugene Rosenzweig) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:01:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) References: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> <4868.128.2.120.244.1023888040.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Message-ID: <046701c21297$6ae8ab70$0300a8c0@bluebox> Explanation and fix for the ms-tnef attachments: http://help.netscape.com/kb/consumer/19981102-1.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Gallew" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:20 PM Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) > Harold L Hunt said: > > Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. > > Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message > > somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. > > Most likely he's using MS Outlook and/or MS Exchange. They're famouns > for adding ms-tnef bits to messages. It *can* be disabled, but I have > no idea how to do it myself. I just know that the vendors who still > do business with me have all figured out how to do it. > The ones who couldn't figure it out no longer do business with me. > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 22:29:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:29:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 58 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 58 package via setup.exe by pointing setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory on your favorite mirror. For example, you could point setup.exe at: http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test58.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020613-0102.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) InitOutput.c, XWin.man, win.h, winwndproc.c - Add the -lesspointer command line parameter which causes Cygwin/XFree86 to hide the Windows mouse cursor when the mouse is over any Cygwin/XFree86 window (whether activated or not). (Stuart Adamson) Enjoy, Harold From cgf@redhat.com Wed Jun 12 22:33:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:33:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020613053412.GA18360@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 01:29:42AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >I just posted Test 58 to the server development page: >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Harold, Why not just install the latest server test packages in the normal cygwin place but mark it as "test" in setup.hint? Then you can download them just by running setup.exe and point to any mirror. Then you wouldn't need a separate setup.ini file. This would allow people to download the latest test version but it wouldn't give you any history, of course. I.e., when you make Test 58 available, people will no longer be able to retrieve Test 57 via the normal mechanism. I don't recall this being suggested before. Apologies if this has already been discussed. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 22:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:39:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFB8@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, Excellent. I've applied this to Server Test Series - Test 58, which I have just released. I don't think it's necessary to change the logic in the WM_ACTIVATEAPP message, cause we're going to want to reshow (on inactivation) the cursor regardless of whether we are hiding when we are over an inactive Cygwin/XFree86 window or not. Failing to reshow could cause the cursor to disappear for other Windows clients (by screwing up the cursor show/hide count). Actually... I just realized that we probably should change the current behavior to *not* hide the Windows cursor when we receive a WM_ACTIVATEAPP or WM_ACTIVATE message that tells us we are activating. The reason for this is that the user can be running a very small Cygwin/XFree86 window that is far away from the taskbar and when they click on the Cygwin/XFree86 icon in the taskbar we're going to hide the cursor, whereas the cursor has not yet crossed (any may never cross) our window. On the other hand, we always want to show the cursor if we receive an inavtivation message. I think I'm gonna go change that logic and stick it into Test 58 before anyone downloads it. :) I like to be sneaky like that because it takes about an hour to do all the release announcements, etc. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Adamson > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:21 PM > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window > receives tab / pressing both...) > > > Okay - attached is a patch which does this. I've tested it with > and without > the > -nodecoration flag (the windows mouse pointer still appears when > you're over > the > windows title bar). Added an entry to the man page as well. > > The magic command line argument is -hidewindowspointerwheninactive. > Somebody might > be able to come up with a slightly nicer name ;) > > In InitOutput.c I've initialized the ScreenInfo member for it to false as > fFullScreen > is also initialized to false - however I don't think either of these are > needed as > ZeroMemory() is called on the structure which should do this for us. > Was this an oversight when adding fFullScreen or is it like this to aid > readability? > > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > Sent: 12 June 2002 17:53 > > To: Cygwin XFree > > Subject: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / > > pressing both...) > > > > > > > > (sort of ghost cursors)..... > > > > > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - > > now I keep > > > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > > > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). > > > > However this gets fixed, just make sure that the behavior is > > configurable > > via a command-line parameter and have the default be the > > current behavior. > > > > Harold > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 22:49:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:49:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: <20020613053412.GA18360@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, > Why not just install the latest server test packages in the normal > cygwin place but mark it as "test" in setup.hint? > I don't recall this being suggested before. Apologies if this has already > been discussed. Oh, I'm aware that that functionality is there... but I have been trying to avoid looking for the docs on it or an example setup.hint for it. You know, the old "beer or coding" conflict... Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 23:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:14:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Stuart, Naturally, now that I have applied the -lesspointer patch I have remembered why we switched away from hiding the Windows mouse cursor when we were inactive. The reason goes like this: 1) User has a Cygwin/XFree86 window that is away from the task bar. 2) User activates the Cygwin/XFree86 window to bring it to the top, though the window is small (say 640x480 on a 1024x768 screen) so it doesn't cover all other windows. 3) Now the user activates another application via the taskbar, say a Cygwin bash shell. This other application does not completely cover the Cygwin/XFree86 window. 4) The user moves the mouse into the Cygwin/XFree86 window, without clicking, thus hiding the mouse cursor but not activating the Cygwin/XFree86 window. 5) A popup window from another application grabs the focus and either the popup window covers the area underneath the mouse or the user moves the mouse into the popup window in such a way as to not cross the non-client area of the Cygwin/XFree86 window. 6) At this point Cygwin/XFree86 should no longer be hiding the mouse cursor because a) we aren't active and b) the mouse cursor is not over our window. However, our only way of detecting that the mouse pointer has left our window when we are inactive is to watch for the non-client area mouse messages. In this test case we never see a non-client area mouse message so we never show the cursor. I can't remember if this actually causes the Windows cursor to not be shown for the popup window or not. It may depend entirely on the version of Windows, or it may depend on the popup window, etc. All I can say is that the -lesspointer parameter is your guy's baby and I'll send people to you if they complain about -lesspointer causing their cursor to disappear over other Windows windows. :) I think the very simple method to make -lesspointer more robust is to call TrackMouseEvent with the TME_LEAVE flag when we get our first client area mouse message. Then when the mouse leaves our client area (and I'm assuming that a popup covering the area underneath the mouse qualifies as leaving the client area) we will get a WM_MOUSELEAVE message. We can simply show the Windows mouse cursor if it is being hidden at that time. Simple, eh? Harold From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Thu Jun 13 00:18:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:18:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin Xstart problems also Message-ID: You missed the point of installing using the Unix text type which ensures that you are mounting the font directory in binary mode. The URL is http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Please remember to answer to the mialinglist instead of me directly.... Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen "James L. Olds" on 12-06-2002 21:46:39 Please respond to "James L. Olds" To: Franz Wolfhagen/Denmark/IBM@IBMDK cc: Subject: Cygwin Xstart problems also I've carefully read the FAQ and I still can't get X to start on my machine. It used to, that's the weird thing (using startxwin). My log file is enclosed. I'm wondering if you can point me in the right direction. I did have to reinstall W2K and X a few weeks ago and that's when things started not working. Jim Olds From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 00:19:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:19:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nevermind, I just implemented the patch that I was talking about below. However, I'm getting a strange problem where if I pass any 0 argument parameters (e.g. -lesspointer) to XWin.exe and I start with 'start XWin' on Windows 2000 then my log file only contains two lines: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 If I start with 'start /B XWin' then the log is normal. I don't understand what is going on here. Maybe I've just done too many compiles and I need to restart my computer. Or maybe I need to go to bed... Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:15 AM > To: cygx > Subject: RE: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window > receives tab / pressing both...) > > > Stuart, > > Naturally, now that I have applied the -lesspointer patch I have > remembered > why we switched away from hiding the Windows mouse cursor when we were > inactive. The reason goes like this: > > 1) User has a Cygwin/XFree86 window that is away from the task bar. > > 2) User activates the Cygwin/XFree86 window to bring it to the top, though > the window is small (say 640x480 on a 1024x768 screen) so it doesn't cover > all other windows. > > 3) Now the user activates another application via the taskbar, > say a Cygwin > bash shell. This other application does not completely cover the > Cygwin/XFree86 window. > > 4) The user moves the mouse into the Cygwin/XFree86 window, without > clicking, thus hiding the mouse cursor but not activating the > Cygwin/XFree86 > window. > > 5) A popup window from another application grabs the focus and either the > popup window covers the area underneath the mouse or the user moves the > mouse into the popup window in such a way as to not cross the non-client > area of the Cygwin/XFree86 window. > > 6) At this point Cygwin/XFree86 should no longer be hiding the > mouse cursor > because a) we aren't active and b) the mouse cursor is not over > our window. > However, our only way of detecting that the mouse pointer has left our > window when we are inactive is to watch for the non-client area mouse > messages. In this test case we never see a non-client area mouse > message so > we never show the cursor. > > > I can't remember if this actually causes the Windows cursor to > not be shown > for the popup window or not. It may depend entirely on the version of > Windows, or it may depend on the popup window, etc. > > All I can say is that the -lesspointer parameter is your guy's > baby and I'll > send people to you if they complain about -lesspointer causing > their cursor > to disappear over other Windows windows. :) > > I think the very simple method to make -lesspointer more robust is to call > TrackMouseEvent with the TME_LEAVE flag when we get our first client area > mouse message. Then when the mouse leaves our client area (and > I'm assuming > that a popup covering the area underneath the mouse qualifies as > leaving the > client area) we will get a WM_MOUSELEAVE message. We can simply show the > Windows mouse cursor if it is being hidden at that time. Simple, eh? > > > Harold > From ecognito1@earthcorp.com Thu Jun 13 00:50:00 2002 From: ecognito1@earthcorp.com (E) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:50:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020613174800.00a18d40@192.168.1.1> Hi, I was wondering what the status was of using the cygwin xfree server in a multi-windowed mode (ie Opening a MS-Windows window for each X client window instead of a single window for the X desktop). I've browsed the FAQ, website, and did a few searches of the archives for this list, but couldn't find anything recent or definitive on the status of this feature. Thanks. E. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 01:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:02:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020613174800.00a18d40@192.168.1.1> Message-ID: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00086.html > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of E > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:50 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Status of multi-windowed server > > > Hi, > > I was wondering what the status was of using the cygwin xfree server in a > multi-windowed mode (ie Opening a MS-Windows window for each X client > window instead of a single window for the X desktop). > > I've browsed the FAQ, website, and did a few searches of the archives for > this list, but couldn't find anything recent or definitive on the > status of > this feature. > > Thanks. > > E. > From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 01:08:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:08:00 -0000 Subject: Indenting ... Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFBB@ldnisp14.evolution.net> What's the official indenting system for code used by XFree86 (or at least the hw/xwin part of it)? Is there an astyle or similar spec file for it? Stuart From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jun 13 02:21:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:21:00 -0000 Subject: bitmap problems with irix 6.5 Message-ID: <002701c212bb$bfd13b60$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi all, I'm trying to use xfree as a replacement for exceed installations. It works well in most cases, but one issue I've found is that in the irix system manager and other applications some bitmaps are not displayed right like shown in the appended screenshots. I've found this behavior with all resolution modes x8, x16, x32 and all usable engines (1,2,4). Looking in the mailing list shows that this topic seems not to discussed ealier. Does anyone have an idea, if this is an configuration problem or could be a bug in the xserver ? Ralf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: exceed.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2850 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xfree.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2468 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 02:35:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:35:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window re ceives tab / pressing both...) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A414@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Certainly under Win2000 the cursor always gets displayed (I've commented out every ShowCursor(TRUE) statement and the cursor still gets displayed whenever we leave the window.) This is what I'd expect as ShowCursor shouldn't really apply globally. I understand your concern about what it might do on older versions of windows though. > However, I'm getting a strange problem where if I pass any 0 argument > parameters (e.g. -lesspointer) to XWin.exe and I start with > 'start XWin' on > Windows 2000 then my log file only contains two lines: hum - same here, expect it's if I pass *any* parameters to start XWin without using /B. I commented out FreeConsole() in case that was closing something it shouldn't - but that didn't seem to make any difference. Stuart From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jun 13 03:04:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 03:04:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: <20020613053412.GA18360@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote: > Why not just install the latest server test packages in the normal > cygwin place but mark it as "test" in setup.hint? > > Then you can download them just by running setup.exe and point to any > mirror. Then you wouldn't need a separate setup.ini file. But the mirrors are not updated instantly. The test release would need about one day to spread to the mirrors. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jun 13 03:09:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 03:09:00 -0000 Subject: Indenting ... In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFBB@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Stuart Adamson wrote: > What's the official indenting system for code used by XFree86 (or at least > the hw/xwin part of it)? Is there an astyle or similar spec file for it? Harold once told me to use the indent command from emacs, which in fact a simple run of the indent program on the sourcecode. Simply: $ indent win_xxx.c bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 05:11:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > But on the overall, I don't think it's really the way to go. Again, I > don't known much about X so it may not be reasonable but what about > creating a Windows window for each X window? This would allow each X App > to appear in the taskbar like any Windows application. This is how eXceed works and it makes more sense to me. When I'm working in rootless mode - typically I won't be running a window manager. I expect the X windows to act and behave just like the windows windows. So we need to trap all window open, close, resize events and pass them to our code which creates / closes / resizes native windows windows. It does seem like this might get a bit complex (we would have to hold the hwnd of each window in the windows private and use that to decide what needs updating and when). The windows message loop will need to do some demux'ing as well. Stuart From jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be Thu Jun 13 05:35:00 2002 From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be (jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:35:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard Message-ID: <1023971755.3d0891abd079b@webmail2.wanadoo.be> Hello, I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is working perfectly well except the fact that I can not change the keyboard from Qwerty to Azerty. I have not found any explanations in the documentation. Any help? Thanks, J??r??me Stefanini From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 05:48:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:48:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A416@ldnisp14.evolution.net> You want to run xmodmap. In my startxwin.bat I do start /B XWin -loads of options here start /B xmodmap.exe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk start /B icewm.exe Type "man xmodmap" for more details. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be [mailto:jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be] > Sent: 13 June 2002 13:36 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > Hello, > > I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is working > perfectly well except > the fact that I can not change the keyboard from Qwerty to > Azerty. I have not > found any explanations in the documentation. > > Any help? > > Thanks, > > J?r?me Stefanini > From robert.collins@syncretize.net Thu Jun 13 05:57:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:57:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <008b01c212d9$e9b9b420$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Adamson > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 10:11 PM > It does seem like this might get a bit complex (we would have > to hold the > hwnd > of each window in the windows private and use that to decide > what needs > updating > and when). Yes, but the X infrastructure for this is excellent. I had it mostly working, but looking crap due to the decorations, and not choosing which windows to show on the taskbar terribly cluefully. Alan has various patches from me. Unfortunately, my personal time completely dried up without much warning a couple of months ago, and I haven't gotten back to that. > The windows message loop will need to do some > demux'ing as well. Hmm, could do, but didn't seem to need it. Rob From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Jun 13 06:03:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:03:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <008b01c212d9$e9b9b420$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <008b01c212d9$e9b9b420$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20020613130344.GE1109@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:57:44PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > Yes, but the X infrastructure for this is excellent. I had it mostly > working, but looking crap due to the decorations, and not choosing which > windows to show on the taskbar terribly cluefully. Alan has various > patches from me. Unfortunately, my personal time completely dried up > without much warning a couple of months ago, and I haven't gotten back > to that. Unfortunately I didn't get the full set of patches which really did the rootless modes. If you want to create a full diff - I'm sure someone will look at them. Alan. From robert.collins@syncretize.net Thu Jun 13 06:07:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <20020613130344.GE1109@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <008f01c212db$4099e340$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Alan Hourihane > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 11:04 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: How to start messing around with creating a > rootless mode... > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:57:44PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > Yes, but the X infrastructure for this is excellent. I had it mostly > > working, but looking crap due to the decorations, and not > choosing which > > windows to show on the taskbar terribly cluefully. Alan has various > > patches from me. Unfortunately, my personal time completely dried up > > without much warning a couple of months ago, and I haven't > gotten back > > to that. > > Unfortunately I didn't get the full set of patches which really did > the rootless modes. > > If you want to create a full diff - I'm sure someone will > look at them. I'll see what I can do shortly. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 06:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:50:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, > > But on the overall, I don't think it's really the way to go. Again, I > > don't known much about X so it may not be reasonable but what about > > creating a Windows window for each X window? This would allow > each X App > > to appear in the taskbar like any Windows application. > > This is how eXceed works and it makes more sense to me. When I'm working > in rootless mode - typically I won't be running a window manager. Right. That is exactly why I described the method of getting started as I did: because everything you do for drawing in rootless mode will still be needed when you are drawing to individual windows. Say what? That's right, you're still going to have to have a method of drawing the root window as transparent and setting the clipping region of the root window to nothing when the server looses the focus. Once you've got it so that twm can draw windows that "float" above the Windows desktop, then you can start worrying about holding hwnd's to individual windows, etc. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 06:52:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <008f01c212db$4099e340$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: Robert, I totally forgot that you had worked on a rootless mode. I'd definitely be interested in seeing the patches. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 06:57:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:57:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A414@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, > Certainly under Win2000 the cursor always gets displayed (I've > commented out > every ShowCursor(TRUE) statement and the cursor still gets displayed > whenever > we leave the window.) This is what I'd expect as ShowCursor shouldn't > really > apply globally. I understand your concern about what it might do on older > versions > of windows though. Yes, I seem to remember that older versions of Windows do not do the right thing with respect to cursor hiding. > hum - same here, expect it's if I pass *any* parameters to start XWin > without using /B. I commented out FreeConsole() in case that was > closing something it shouldn't - but that didn't seem to make any > difference. The problem turned out to be something that must have existed for a long time. You are right that the calls to FreeConsole are no longer needed, as we are passing flags to the linker in xc/programs/Xserver/Imakefile that tell the linker to make us a Windows application without a console. The problem was that, for some unknown reason, the file handle to the log file becomes invalid in the case where you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin' and any number of arguments after that. My solution for the time is pragmatic, but I'd like to get to the bottom of this eventually. For now I just reopen the log file handle in OsVendorInit if it was opened in ddxProcessArgument: void OsVendorInit (void) { ErrorF ("OsVendorInit - 1\n"); #ifdef DDXOSVERRORF OsVendorVErrorFProc = OsVendorVErrorF; /* Open log file if not yet open */ if (g_pfLog == NULL) g_pfLog = fopen (WIN_LOG_FNAME, "w"); else { /* Close log file */ fclose (g_pfLog); g_pfLog = fopen (WIN_LOG_FNAME, "a+"); } #endif ... } From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 07:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:03:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander, > > Then you can download them just by running setup.exe and point to any > > mirror. Then you wouldn't need a separate setup.ini file. > > But the mirrors are not updated instantly. The test release would need > about one day to spread to the mirrors. Chris was referring to the fact that, in addition to placing the test release stand-alone files (e.g., XWin-Test58.exe.bz2) on my msu.edu site and distributing them via the sources.redhat.com network, I have also been placing a modified XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-?.tar.bz2 for Cygwin's setup.exe in cygwin/xfree/release/XFree86/XFree86-xserv/. Chris was saying that instead of telling users to point setup.exe to that other directory I could just put the test package in the normal directory and mark it as 'test' in setup.hint. Hope that clears things up, Harold From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Jun 13 07:15:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:15:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020613141520.28637.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Chris was referring to the fact that, in addition to placing the test > release stand-alone files (e.g., XWin-Test58.exe.bz2) on my msu.edu site > and > distributing them via the sources.redhat.com network, I have also been > placing a modified XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-?.tar.bz2 for Cygwin's setup.exe > in > cygwin/xfree/release/XFree86/XFree86-xserv/. Chris was saying that > instead > of telling users to point setup.exe to that other directory I could just > put > the test package in the normal directory and mark it as 'test' in > setup.hint. > > Hope that clears things up, Harold, Implementing the test-release in setup.exe is real easy. Take, for example, the setup.hint of GDB: sdesc: "The GNU Debugger" category: Devel requires: cygwin termcap test: 20020411-1 curr: 20010428-3 That's all there is to it :-). FWIW, I think CGF's suggestion is a good one, as it makes it much easier to deal with... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From robert.collins@syncretize.net Thu Jun 13 07:35:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:35:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a501c212e7$9663e670$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Enjoy. YMWV, as this is against somewhat old sourceforge CVS. I'm also not sure what quality I left it in :}. At a minimum it should provide food for thought. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 11:53 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: How to start messing around with creating a > rootless mode... > > > Robert, > > I totally forgot that you had worked on a rootless mode. I'd > definitely be > interested in seeing the patches. > > Thanks, > > Harold > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: rootless.patch.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11459 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 07:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:43:00 -0000 Subject: Icons show normally at 32 bpp when RENDER, LAYER, and RANDR are disabled Message-ID: <200206131443.g5DEh6327408@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> I just built Cygwin/XFree86 with RENDER, LAYER, and RANDR disabled. I can log on to KDE 3.0 running on a remote machine with the Windows display set to 32 bits per pixel and all the KDE icons display correctly. It looks like Waldo was right-on about the alpha channel problems. I was intially trying to disable just RENDER, but then something it layer failed to build when I disabled RENDER, so I had to disable LAYER and RANDR as well. Now we just need to find out if RENDER is having a problem with our visuals and/or pixmap formats or whether Qt or KDE has some problem that causes alpha channel rendering with our visuals and/or pixmap formats to not work. I'll try to build Cygwin/XFree86 with RENDER but without LAYER and RANDR to see if that still fixes the problem. Harold From romulusnr@yahoo.com Thu Jun 13 10:07:00 2002 From: romulusnr@yahoo.com (Romulus) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: Arrow key bindings and numlock Message-ID: <20020613170725.46640.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Not entirely sure if this is a Cyg-XF86 concern, or an fvwm2-cyg concern, but the research I've done so far points to problems with XF86 and NumLock. Under XF86, I've noticed that fvwm2 doesn't correctly receive Ctl-Arrow keys (such as Ctl-Left) if NumLock is on. For example I have defined config lines like: Key Up A C Scroll 0 -100 and so forth. With NumLock on, X apps seem to recieve corrupted escape strings, because I'll see ABCD's appear in an active xterm when I try to do this. I found out that turning NumLock off made those bindings work. Shift bindings seem to work OK. I've seen problems in apps with meta (alt) bindings which is probably related to the same thing. I've seen lots of comments about at least two XF86 bugs that breaks key bindings when numlock is on. I like numlock. Is there a happy medium? TIA, Kdt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From exodus@psyon.org Thu Jun 13 12:19:00 2002 From: exodus@psyon.org (Psyon) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:19:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin References: <20020613033112.63074.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D08F206.2030208@psyon.org> I have GTK+ and GNOME compiled inside CYGWIN. I used the directions on the page linked from the main Cygwin page. It seems to run ok for me, but I dont play with a lot of stuff on it though. I know some other people said it wasnt stable enough to be a package though. Sylvain Petreolle wrote: >Hi there, > >looking on cygwin.com/packages >show there isn't a package for gtk. > >1/ does it compile for now ? >2/ if ok, why haven't we a package for that ? I looked >on cygwin & cygwin-xfree archives and didn't find a >thread on it. > >___________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! >Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > > > > From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Jun 13 12:55:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:55:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <20020613033112.63074.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020613195514.18649.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I believe Harold is working on the native cygwin version of this. Cheers, Nicholas --- Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > Hi there, > > looking on cygwin.com/packages > show there isn't a package for gtk. > > 1/ does it compile for now ? > 2/ if ok, why haven't we a package for that ? I looked > on cygwin & cygwin-xfree archives and didn't find a > thread on it. > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 14:23:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:23:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window re ceives tab / pressing both...) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFC7@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > My solution for the time is > pragmatic, but > I'd like to get to the bottom of this eventually. For now I > just reopen the > log file handle in OsVendorInit if it was opened in > ddxProcessArgument: Okay - a few ErrorF()'s, bit of stracing and recompiles later ... What kills the file handle is fclose(stdio) in os/osinit.c. Why? Well, X, like many programs, makes assumptions about stdio, stdout and stderr (it assumes that they are on fd's 0, 1 and 2). This is bad. Now, what must have happened is that when XWin.exe is started without the /B flag the file descriptor we get when we open our log file is 0 (namely stdin). Why would we get this? Well, why not? XWin doesn't have a console when it starts (is used to according to Harold so this is most likely when it last worked!) so we just get the first FD. Why we don't get this FD when we start XWin.exe with /B is another matter (erm - windows experts out there ... maybe windows does something special with them) The real fix? Well - the bug is in core X and not the cygwin port. Attached is a patch which stops OsInit() from closing stdin and stdout if compiling for cygwin. I still contend that those closes shouldn't be there at all - but that's for an XFree86 developer to decide as it will effect all platforms. This patch just fixes it for cygwin. Stuart -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: log.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 302 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ecognito1@earthcorp.com Thu Jun 13 18:24:00 2002 From: ecognito1@earthcorp.com (E) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020614112025.00a1b620@192.168.1.1> At 04:01 AM 13/06/02 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00086.html Thanks for that. I take it from the posting and follow-up threads that it certainly isn't working out-of-the-box for what you download using setup.exe. Do you know where it is priorities on the TODO list for the project? E. P.S. Apologies to Harold for initially replying directly to him instead of the list as seems to be proper etiquette in cygwin land. I hadn't realised he had posted his response to the list as well as directly to myself. From strube@physik3.gwdg.de Fri Jun 14 02:00:00 2002 From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 02:00:00 -0000 Subject: Question about running interactive program in xterm session Message-ID: <200206140900.LAA13523@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> > From: Milind Potdar > If I open xterm session & try to run isql, all the prompts from isql "do not" > come to screen. But otherwise it behaves perfectly ok. ie you input sql commands > & get back results. > > It is as if there is some special buffer which stores whatever isql is prompting > but it is not getting flushed. At the same time sql command results come back & > are visible. > > >From normal cygwin command shell, there is no problem with isql execution. > > Has anyone experienced similar problem ? Yes, I found something similar with the Windows version of ssh2 from SSHWinClient-3.1.0-build235 from SSH.COM; see my posting http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-03/msg00127.html . > Is there any xterm property which needs to be set to make this work ? I would like to know this, too. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 06:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 59 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 59 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 59 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'test' package: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test59.exe.bz2 (1051 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020614-0826.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) (next link is multiple lines, concatenate them manually) http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ xc-programs-Xserver-os-osinit-20020614-0826.c.diff (1 KiB) (next link is multiple lines, concatenate them manually) http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ xc-config-cf-cygwin-20020614-0826.cf.diff (1 KiB) Changes: 1) win.h, xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf - Stop building RANDR and disable Cygwin/XFree86's LAYER support. These two extensions were causing KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to not display. RENDER is still enabled. (Harold Hunt) 2) xc/programs/Xserver/os/osinit.c - Don't close the stdin, stdout, stderr file handles on Cygwin. We are no longer a command-line application so stdin, stdout, and stderr point to our first three file handles, rather than to their usual locations. This keeps the log file from being closed when you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin.exe'. (Stuart Adamson) 3) winwndproc.c - Call TrackMouseEvent to setup tracking for the WM_MOUSELEAVE message. When we see a WM_MOUSELEAVE message we show the cursor if we are hiding it. This will prevent cursors from disappearing when using the -lesspointer parameter. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 06:10:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:10:00 -0000 Subject: Workaround, for now Message-ID: I've found a workaround, for now. It turns out that the RENDER extension is working find on Cygwin/XFree86, but the LAYER and/or RANDR extensions are causing problems when displaying icons with alpha channels. For now the solution is to just disable LAYER and RANDR, since we don't even know what they do (lack of documentation from the creator). I may look into the particular problem with LAYER and/or RANDR later, but for now consider this BUG CLOSED. Thanks for your help, especially Waldo, who pointed me to the alpha channel. Harold Hunt From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Fri Jun 14 06:11:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: Arrow key bindings and numlock Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A59059D3B0A@acdfwx2.acdin.de.ittind.com> In a previous post I mentioned that TWM was not recognizing meta (and other state-shifting keys). Romulus' post solved that. Once I turned NumLock off, the standard key bindings started working. 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Keep feeding me patches as you create them (at least so I can look at them as they come in), but don't expect a reply until late Sunday or Monday at the earliest. Happy coding, Harold From owner@bugs.kde.org Fri Jun 14 06:18:00 2002 From: owner@bugs.kde.org (Stephan Kulow) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:18:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Info received (was Workaround, for now) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers' mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): KDE Developers If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 40875@bugs.kde.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Stephan Kulow (administrator, KDE bugs database) From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 06:25:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:25:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: For anyone looking for something to do: Take a look at how we are messing up the handling of NumLock. For a simple test case, install the lesstif package via Cygwin's setup.exe, run mwm.exe as your window manager, make sure NumLock is on, then try to move a MWM managed window. The window won't budge. Turn NumLock off and the window can move freely. It may be incorrect to treat NumLock as a 'modifier key', see xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c/winGetKeyMappings (), but not treating NumLock as a modifier key causes the NumLock key to have no effect on whether the numerical keypad gives you numbers (NumLock on behavior) or arrows (NumLock off behavior). I think that both states of NumLock give you arrows in that case. For clues you can take a look at other servers, such as XDarwin over in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/darwinKeyboard.c. Notice that they use modifier masks LockMask (CapsLock), ShiftMask, ControlMask, AltMask, MetaMask and FunctionMask. But they don't use NumLockMask. What gives? Is NumLock a modifier key or not? If not, why doesn't it do anything in Cygwin/XFree86 when we don't treat it as a modifier? Hopefully that provides enough food for thought. Good luck, Harold From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 14 06:32:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: Workaround, for now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020614133224.GF1117@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:10:30 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > I've found a workaround, for now. > > It turns out that the RENDER extension is working find on Cygwin/XFree86, > but the LAYER and/or RANDR extensions are causing problems when displaying > icons with alpha channels. For now the solution is to just disable LAYER > and RANDR, since we don't even know what they do (lack of documentation from > the creator). LAYER and RANDR are not complete. They both form the basis for Rotate and Resizing. This will allow colour depth switching and rotating of the display. So don't worry about them. Alan. From n.escuder@alineanet.com Fri Jun 14 07:57:00 2002 From: n.escuder@alineanet.com (Escuder Nicolas) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:57:00 -0000 Subject: Lastest Wine CVS and IE6 References: <20020614111300.15232.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003801c213b2$076744f0$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR> It's not from comctl32 :o) [AppDefaults\\iexplore.exe\\DllOverrides] "shlwapi" = "native" "rpcrt4" = "native" "ole32" = "native" "shdocvw" = "native" "wininet" = "native" "shfolder" = "native" "shell32" = "native" "shell" = "native" "comctl32" = "native" And it don't crash all the time just at the page : http://start.fr.msn.com I give you the last log :o) fixme:win:GetProcessWindowStation (void): stub fixme:win:GetProcessWindowStation (void): stub mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding err:wave:ARTS_WaveInit arts_init() failed (-1) err:win32:PE_fixup_imports No implementation for DDRAW.dll.20(ReleaseDDThreadLock) imported from C:\windows\system\ddrawex.dll, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:win32:PE_fixup_imports No implementation for DDRAW.dll.0(AcquireDDThreadLock) imported from C:\windows\system\ddrawex.dll, setting to 0xdeadbeef Could not stat /mnt/floppy (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A: Could not stat /mnt/cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D: err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/desktop.ini" err = 55 err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/modern.fon" err = 2 err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/desktop.ini" err = 55 err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/modern.fon" err = 2 fixme:reg:RegNotifyChangeKeyValue (48,1,5,4c,1): stub fixme:string:GetStringTypeW CT_CTYPE3 not supported. fixme:string:GetStringTypeW CT_CTYPE3 not supported. fixme:string:GetStringTypeW CT_CTYPE3 not supported. This is the last message before i see Internet Explorer give a fault :o) see you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Escuder Nicolas" ; Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Lastest Wine CVS and IE6 > it crashes -> what is is the error message ? > > > If anyone known how can i have no black icon but > > icon with color please say > > to me ;o) > comes from comctl32.dll... > the problem solved in previous version by using > builtin one, but using it with IE6 makes it not > start...he shows a dialog saying IE6 must close and exits...*sigh* > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.com > http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jun 14 08:13:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > Is NumLock a modifier key or not? It Is. I know the Problem from Sun Solaris. If NumLock is on, the twm buttons will not react on button presses :( bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From n.escuder@alineanet.com Fri Jun 14 08:43:00 2002 From: n.escuder@alineanet.com (Escuder Nicolas) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:43:00 -0000 Subject: Sorry error not the good list :( Message-ID: <008001c213b8$834802c0$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR> Sorry form my message before ... From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 10:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:30:00 -0000 Subject: Workaround, for now Message-ID: <200206141730.g5EHUqU28592@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Alan, > LAYER and RANDR are not complete. They both form the basis for Rotate > and Resizing. This will allow colour depth switching and rotating of > the display. So don't worry about them. Ah ha. I knew what RANDR was supposed to do, but I was missing that vital status information that they are not complete. Had I known that I wouldn't have enabled them yet. I remember now why I did enable them: Keith made a change to SHADOW to accomadate LAYER, but he didn't anticipate someone using SHADOW like we do, so SHADOW started crashing on startup. I saw his change and thought that SHADOW now depended upon LAYER, so I spent a week or two enabling LAYER support. After I had that working I realized that my crashing bug was still there and that it really had to do with that change to SHADOW. I submitted a fix for SHADOW and suddenly everything was fine again. I never bothered to turn LAYER and RANDR back off after that because they didn't seem to have any negative effects. Now they do :) Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 10:37:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:37:00 -0000 Subject: Cofiguration Q's Message-ID: <200206141737.g5EHbFo130722@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Elena, First things first: be sure to reply *only* to the cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com mailing list. I don't need to be cc'd (everyone knows I am subscribed to the list) and please don't send messages only to me (always send them to the list). I do, however, often cc people that are asking their first question because I don't know for a fact that they are subscribed to the mailing list and I want to make sure that they get my reply. That being said... > Thanks for the help! > Now our Cygwin on PC is working. We started it via > startwin.bat and then used Telnet and SSH for remote > connection. > In both cases we were able only get local display from > commands, not a locak desktop of remote Linux > computer. Read the manual: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html > Could you please suggest where to look for the proper > cosettings for the remote machine? If you can't get your remote machine to accept a connection, read the FAQ entry about why some distros won't accept connections by default: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-mandrake-8.1-xdmcp That should cover it. There are links to further information about XDMCP in the User's Guide entry in case you have more questions. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 10:38:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:38:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: <200206141738.g5EHcXi21782@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Alexander, > > Is NumLock a modifier key or not? > > It Is. I know the Problem from Sun Solaris. If NumLock is on, the twm > buttons will not react on button presses :( Then why doesn't XDarwin set NumLock as a modifier key? Harold From lains@caramail.com Fri Jun 14 11:50:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 doesn't start Message-ID: <1024080603015275@caramail.com> I'm getting difficulties to start an X server on CygWin under WinNT. I've installed XFree86 using the standard setup.exe installer. Here is what I'm getting when I launch startxwin.sh ~$ startxwin.sh + export DISPLAY=LAINS-1:0.0 + PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Com mon Files/Clarify/bin:/cygdrive/c/orant/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive /c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WBEM:/cygdrive/e/orant/bin:/cygdrive/c:/cygd rive/c/windows:/cygdrive/c/command:/cygdrive/c/Borland/Bde :/usr/X11R6/bin:/home /administrator/scripts:. + rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix + XWin + twm + xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 The process XWin seems to hang and, of course, when I kill it, startx returns. + xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash + exit XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "LAINS-1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "LAINS-1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Is there anything wrong with my config? Any log file I should check? After several failures, I could manage to start XWin only once (running XWin.exe directly also), but I can't get it to work again, now that I have rebooted Windows. Here is the version of the X11 packages I installed: XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-5 Thanks, Lionel _________________________________________________________ Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ From jatkins@dsdk12.net Fri Jun 14 18:11:00 2002 From: jatkins@dsdk12.net (Joe Atkins) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:11:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker Message-ID: <3D0A93F1.6090900@dsdk12.net> I was looking through the documentation provided and on the website and I fail to find information on how to get WindowMaker installed properly through Cygwin. Aftter installing and attempting a first load of WM, WM fails and quits on fatal errors because it tries to use the // to set up certain directories and cannot due so due to the removeal of such support. Could you please inform me on what the work around to get WM to set up those neccisary directories and files is or where I can find the specified information at on the Internet? Thank You For Your Assistance, Joe Atkins From jatkins@dsdk12.net Fri Jun 14 18:14:00 2002 From: jatkins@dsdk12.net (Joe Atkins) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:14:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker Message-ID: <3D0A94B0.9020502@dsdk12.net> I was looking through the documentation provided and on the website and I fail to find information on how to get WindowMaker installed properly through Cygwin. Aftter installing and attempting a first load of WM, WM fails and quits on fatal errors because it tries to use the // to set up certain directories and cannot due so due to the removeal of such support. Could you please inform me on what the work around to get WM to set up those neccisary directories and files is or where I can find the specified information at on the Internet? Thank You For Your Assistance, Joe Atkins From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Fri Jun 14 20:15:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 20:15:00 -0000 Subject: wxWindows Message-ID: Hi, Has anyone here been able to compile wxWindows on Cygwin? Specifically, producing a build of wxWindows that runs under Cygwin's XFree environment? I'd like to share notes on it if you have. Thanks. From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Fri Jun 14 21:44:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 21:44:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only Message-ID: <1024116255.1315.81.camel@tuxedo> Hi there, My flatmate and I have been playing with creating a minimal install of cygwin-xfree. We culled files until we ended up with XWin.exe, a bunch of libraries, and a few fonts. We included also ttmkfdir.exe and mkfontdir.exe, so we can add more fonts later, and use the windows fonts. My flatmate has also written a delphi app, which runs the XWin binary with some options you can set on a preferences screen. It needs a little more work, but is quite useable. It is currently built around our set-up, so will need to be modified to support a normal cygwin-xfree install. We have packaged the above using a setup program called Inno Setup, available at: http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php Currently the archive including installer and launcher program come to just under 2.5Mb, and installs to about 5.5Mb. There is much work I need to do on this, but I have exams for the next week so won't get much of a chance. One of my main concerns is that our current install modifies the registry keys used by cygwin, so installing it will break an existing setup (although is quite easy to fix, it is messy). If you do want to look at what we have so far, you can grab http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bennolan/setup.exe and have a play. Note it is messy, as it will change cygwin's registry keys. TODO: Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry location, so we don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. Win95 support. Not sure why it isn't going yet. Need to investigate more. Fonts included. To reduce size, we have the bare minimum fonts included, but it can use fonts from within windows. Fix the launcher program. Currently doesn't save and restore settings correctly from registry, doesn't let the user specify a font server, and has odd defaults for the XDMCP server to connect to :) Make sure uninstall removes /tmp/* and other files created. Include esd.exe from http://www.kiss.taihaku.sendai.jp/~fuji/product/20001127/ , so we can use sound. Perhaps recompile to use cygwin dlls rather than mingw32, and see if there is a later version somewhere than this :) It's a little noisy too, and buffered. Need to work out if there are any configuration parameters we can play with. Add license file to launcher program to say that it is GPL. What are the .a files? Are they linked from the .dlls? Are they used by XWin.exe, or is it just the .dlls? I created a sourceforge project yesterday for this to make it accessible, but uploaded anything to it yet. That will be a job for the week after next. Questions, comments, advice, etc? Cheers, Tim. From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Fri Jun 14 22:23:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:23:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <1024116255.1315.81.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <3D0ACF3F.3010704@stanfordalumni.org> Tim Thomson wrote: > > Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry location, so we > don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies > the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. > Why don't you just make a cygwin package for the stripped down xfree? Most people are going to want some of the cygwin packages. You can make a custom setup.ini that just installs the cygwin dll and stripped xfree. At least don't modify any existing cygwin registry keys. Using the same keys would work as long as it cooperates with an existing or later cygwin install. > > Fonts included. To reduce size, we have the bare minimum fonts > included, but it can use fonts from within windows. > One option is using XDMCP is set a font server on the remote machine and use the remote fonts. > > What are the .a files? Are they linked from the .dlls? Are they used by > XWin.exe, or is it just the .dlls? > They are used to link programs with the X libraries. They aren't required to run the programs. They really shouldn't be in the XFree86-bin package and belong in the XFree86-devel package. But they are small so it doesn't make much difference. - Ian -- Ian Burrell iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 01:17:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 01:17:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <1024116255.1315.81.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 2:44 PM > There is much work I need to do on this, but I have exams for the next > week so won't get much of a chance. One of my main concerns > is that our > current install modifies the registry keys used by cygwin, so > installing > it will break an existing setup (although is quite easy to fix, it is > messy). Yes, this is bad. > TODO: > Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry > location, so we > don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies > the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. You will also need to: * Change the shared segment name, or you will break existing installs at runtime. * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not compatible with the cygwin net distribution. * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. OR Just leverage the cygwin setup program, and let all the pain go away. Rob From ben@ripcord.co.nz Sat Jun 15 02:14:00 2002 From: ben@ripcord.co.nz (Ben Nolan) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 02:14:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <007601c2144c$6b55f2a0$360a0a0a@proton> Or. Use the current name with the knowledge that the people we are targeting at aren't going to want to use a 3rd party launcher app at the same time as their cygwin distro. Honestly, We aren't targetting at developers. We are targetting at schools / govt offices who need access to x-based apps as a intermediate step to linux desktops. And although I appreciate your comments, the out and out criticism really isn't that helpful. Do you expect every administrator that wants to install cygwin on umpteen boxes to set up a custom cygwin install script and site-specific batch files to use the cygwin X server? That's elitist. Regards, Ben Nolan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Collins" To: "'Tim Thomson'" ; "'cygwin-xfree Mailing List'" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:17 PM Subject: RE: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 2:44 PM > > > There is much work I need to do on this, but I have exams for the next > > week so won't get much of a chance. One of my main concerns > > is that our > > current install modifies the registry keys used by cygwin, so > > installing > > it will break an existing setup (although is quite easy to fix, it is > > messy). > > Yes, this is bad. > > > TODO: > > Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry > > location, so we > > don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies > > the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. > > You will also need to: > * Change the shared segment name, or you will break existing installs at > runtime. > * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not > compatible with the cygwin net distribution. > * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. > > OR > > Just leverage the cygwin setup program, and let all the pain go away. > > Rob > > From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 02:26:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 02:26:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <007601c2144c$6b55f2a0$360a0a0a@proton> Message-ID: <001001c2144e$b9cefd30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Nolan [mailto:ben@ripcord.co.nz] > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 7:09 PM > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only > > > Or. > > Use the current name with the knowledge that the people we > are targeting at > aren't going to want to use a 3rd party launcher app at the > same time as > their cygwin distro. That's up to you. As long as that are clear that the two won't play nicely together, then it's completely your choice. I do know that any support requests on such installs will create confusion all around, which is unfortunate. But again, you choice. > Honestly, > > We aren't targetting at developers. We are targetting at > schools / govt > offices who need access to x-based apps as a intermediate > step to linux > desktops. And although I appreciate your comments, the out > and out criticism > really isn't that helpful. It wasn't meant as criticism. It was a) An agreement that what you have identified as problematic is indeed problematic. b) A checklist of things to do when forking a cygwin install, as it's been covered in depth and you may not have known the details. c) A slightly sarcastic/humorous suggestion about an alternate approach that I believe is more effective, useful and manageable. But hey, call it criticism. > Do you expect every administrator that wants to install > cygwin on umpteen > boxes to set up a custom cygwin install script and > site-specific batch files > to use the cygwin X server? That's elitist. Elitist? As in rule by the elite? Well, no that's hardly appropriate, if only because no one is trying to rule you. As in snobbery? Again, I don't think so. I'm not discounting your opinions, or efforts. As in being concious of belonging to an elite? Nope. Seriously, setting aside the question of whether elitism is bad in a meritocracy - which open source projects claim to be. And also setting aside whether such an expectation *is* elitist... I do not expect every administrator to do what you list above. I think that you should do that - that is part of the value of your current all-in-one download. There is no reason that that cannot be done via cygwin's setup.exe, thus incorporating all the net resources, updates, and gaining immediate co-existence with existing installs, removing the issue of dll names/paths/shared memory areas. I am at a complete loss to understand how you went from my suggestion to thinking I had such an expectation. Ah well, Rob From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Jun 15 03:12:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:12:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <1024135939.785.19.camel@tuxedo> Thanks for the replies. The idea is to end up with an X server that is small and easy to use. I'd like to use the existing cygwin setup.exe, as it is very nice, but I don't want to end up with a full cygwin setup. Basically I'm after something like X-Win32, MI/x, or WinaXe, but based on cygwin-xfree, so is free and works well. If you want to use XDMCP to connect to a unix server only, you don't need a full cygwin install. On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 20:17, Robert Collins wrote: > You will also need to: > * Change the shared segment name, or you will break existing installs at > runtime. > * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not > compatible with the cygwin net distribution. > * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. "Everything" would involve the cygwin dll, the couple of libraries used and the XFree server binary correct? People already running cygwin won't need this distribution. I will modify our launcher program soon so it will launch X on an already existing cygwin setup. (What this launcher program does is give a dialog box to let the user select various settings for the XWin binary, then creates a .bat file which launches it). The distribution I am proposing would only be for use for people who didn't want a full cygwin-xfree setup. Cheers, Tim. From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 03:27:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:27:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <1024135939.785.19.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <001601c21457$3f222db0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 8:12 PM > To: cygwin-xfree Mailing List > Subject: RE: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only > > > Thanks for the replies. > > The idea is to end up with an X server that is small and easy to use. > I'd like to use the existing cygwin setup.exe, as it is very > nice, but I > don't want to end up with a full cygwin setup. > Basically I'm after something like X-Win32, MI/x, or WinaXe, but based > on cygwin-xfree, so is free and works well. If you want to > use XDMCP to > connect to a unix server only, you don't need a full cygwin install. Sure. And a minimum cygwin install is all you'd get. Setup only installs the bare minimum - the 'base' category by default. No compilers, no 'optional' components at all. And even they can be deselected (but not be default). > On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 20:17, Robert Collins wrote: > > > You will also need to: > > * Change the shared segment name, or you will break > existing installs at > > runtime. > > * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not > > compatible with the cygwin net distribution. > > * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. > > "Everything" would involve the cygwin dll, the couple of > libraries used > and the XFree server binary correct? Yah. It's not an easy task unfortunately. Anyway, I think this is a good project, it's something that is potentially very useful. Rob From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Jun 15 03:54:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:54:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <001601c21457$3f222db0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <001601c21457$3f222db0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <1024138460.784.41.camel@tuxedo> On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 22:27, Robert Collins wrote: > Sure. And a minimum cygwin install is all you'd get. Setup only installs > the bare minimum - the 'base' category by default. No compilers, no > 'optional' components at all. And even they can be deselected (but not > be default). Hmmm, I first installed cygwin-xfree before it was incorporated into the setup.exe system, but have now used the setup.exe to install on another system as well. I found that it was very hard to reduce the size of the install, as many things depend on many others. I was hoping I wouldn't need to recompile everything for every new version, as downloading sources, then getting everything to go for each new update would be a lot harder than finding recent versions of cygwin1.dll and XWin.exe, adding them to the distribution and providing a new "version" of the download. Perhaps we could check if cygwin is already installed, and refuse to install if it is. We could also have warnings saying not to install both at the same time. This would mean we could use the standard binary and libraries, just repackaged. I wonder which would prove to be the biggest hassle. It may prove more productive to recompile everything, if only to separate the two, so people wouldn't get confused. Thanks for your input, Tim. From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 04:12:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <1024138460.784.41.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 8:54 PM > Hmmm, I first installed cygwin-xfree before it was > incorporated into the > setup.exe system, but have now used the setup.exe to install > on another > system as well. I found that it was very hard to reduce the > size of the > install, as many things depend on many others. Yes. The X install is relatively heavy. I was thinking that you can do the following: Setup your own setup.ini. In that include a package (say XFree86-XDMCP-minimal) for your cut-down X install, minus all the cygwin infrastructure. DON'T include anything with a name the same as cygwin's setup.ini. Include dependency listings that your package has on cygwin packages - should any exist (i.e. various font packages may be useful). Anything that your can't separate out usefully enough, include the content in your package' tarball, OR ask Harold if he is able to split the package out a little. Then tell your users to run setup.exe, add your mirror site to the mirrors list, and to select an official cygwin mirror as well. That should be much smaller, and > Perhaps we could check if cygwin is already installed, and refuse to > install if it is. We could also have warnings saying not to > install both > at the same time. This would mean we could use the standard binary and > libraries, just repackaged. That would help. I suspect you'll still get folk installing cygwin on top, but at least a one-way check helps a lot. Cheers, Rob From randy@psg.com Sat Jun 15 07:27:00 2002 From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:27:00 -0000 Subject: mailing list archive Message-ID: been through the faq and docs. but before i ask already answered questions, is there a searchable mailing list archive somewhere? randy From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Jun 15 07:31:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:31:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> I'd thought I mention that this has been done before, by both myself and Matthew Donald. Both done in the time before the option to install X via setup.exe. My versions are available at http://www.webone.com.au/~rasjidw/WinXTerm-0.32.zip http://www.webone.com.au/~rasjidw/WinXTerm-0.4-Test53.zip with the original website for the project at http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/. Both of my versions are *very* outdated now, as I had put the project on hold until such time as X was installable via setup.exe. I had essentially decided to take Robert's approach, but have had no time over the last few months now the setup.exe option is available. The main reason I decided to go with the setup.exe option is due to the 'you can't have two versions of cygwin.dll running at the same time' problem. And in fact you can use setup.exe and still only have a 5-6 MB download (assuming you don't install fonts etc and don't actually want anything more than X and bash to work or be available). Doland's project is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/winfree86/, as was also delphi based. I don't think he has done anything on it since January, although I have not had any recent contact with him. Strangely enough, I was planning to start work on project again this month, and perhaps even this weekend, with my first step being to do the script to configure XDMCP access on a 'standard' linux distribution. My planned second step was to then create a 'wizard' that would only download the components you need (much less than even a base level cygwin install) and then use setup.exe to install them. Unfortunately I don't know C or C++, and so was planning to do the install wizard in either python and wxWindows or Java and Swing. If someone want to do a 'native' windows version, that would be fine by me. I'd be more than happy just to play bug-tester etc. Once I got this far, I was going to talk to Robert about possible ways to enable 'non-cygwin packaged' programs to talk to and utilise setup.exe. I have noticed that a number of open source Linux/Unix programs have their windows version using the cygwin dll, but don't use setup.exe. It only takes two of these programs to be using sufficiently different versions of the cygwin dll for things to start breaking. This worries me quite a bit, as what will happen is that people will simply say 'Oh damn, this open source product is buggy. I'll go back to using closed source software, it works better.' For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). Because of the above, I think it is important to have a XDMCP only version of Cgywin-XFree86 that does sit within the setup.exe framework. If no-one else does this version, then I will, but I can't guarantee exactly when. If someone else is going to do it anyway, then I wont, as I have plenty of other things I can be doing. ;-) Anyway, enough of my ravings for the evening. It is late and I should be asleep. Cheers, Rasjid. From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sat Jun 15 07:44:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:44:00 -0000 Subject: mailing list archive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020615144401.51517.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> --- Randy Bush a ??crit??: > been through the faq and docs. but before i ask > already answered > questions, is there a searchable mailing list > archive somewhere? > > randy > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Jun 15 08:02:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:02:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <200206160101.25136.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:30 am, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows > port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are > using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in > the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also > uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). > Actually, I just checked a bit more carefully. They host the source for cygwin 1.3.9, but it looks to me like the actual dll they use is B19 (or at least, it is named cygwinb19.dll - perhaps they have a more recent one and just name it that for compatibility??). Someone please tell me I'm wrong, but won't this potentially cause serious problems if someone is running mysql (assuming it really is using B19) and also tries to run an up-to-date cygwin install? Rasjid. From gp@familiehaase.de Sat Jun 15 08:32:00 2002 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:32:00 -0000 Subject: Webmin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <186597286142.20020615173109@familiehaase.de> Hallo Splatter, Am Montag, 10. Juni 2002 um 21:57 schriebst du: > Greetings all! > Is webmin supported under cygwin? > Regards & TIA, > -Splat Not that I'm aware of. But since Perl and X are available it is worth trying to build it. Please report back if you have problems building Webmin. Gerrit -- "All faults& bugs are mine - Robert" from squid/acinclude.m4, Sun Apr 21 05:21:21 2002 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sat Jun 15 08:52:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:52:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <3D08F206.2030208@psyon.org> Message-ID: <20020615155220.35405.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Does someone know if http link is availble to download GTK ? I'm behind a proxy and don't have access to ftp port. Thanks for any answer. --- Psyon a ??crit??: > I have GTK+ and GNOME compiled inside CYGWIN. I > used the directions on > the page linked from the main Cygwin page. It seems > to run ok for me, > but I dont play with a lot of stuff on it though. I > know some other > people said it wasnt stable enough to be a package > though. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From iburrell@znark.com Sat Jun 15 14:33:00 2002 From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 14:33:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <3D0BB28C.7030203@znark.com> Robert Collins wrote: > > Yes. The X install is relatively heavy. I was thinking that you can do > the following: > Setup your own setup.ini. In that include a package (say > XFree86-XDMCP-minimal) for your cut-down X install, minus all the cygwin > infrastructure. DON'T include anything with a name the same as cygwin's > setup.ini. > Include dependency listings that your package has on cygwin packages - > should any exist (i.e. various font packages may be useful). Anything > that your can't separate out usefully enough, include the content in > your package' tarball, OR ask Harold if he is able to split the package > out a little. > I'm sure some people with a cygwin install would be interested in a cut-down XFree86 install with only XDMCP support. > Then tell your users to run setup.exe, add your mirror site to the > mirrors list, and to select an official cygwin mirror as well. > That should be much smaller, and > If they really want a small custom install, couldn't they create a custom setup.ini with only the cygwin packages they want. Put that on a web site to be used instead of a cygwin mirror. BTW, is there any way to automate setup.exe so that users don't have to answer all the questions? setup.exe is great for flexibity with different options for getting and selecting packages. For a school install, the location and packages can be fixed in advanced and the questions reduced to the minimum. - Ian -- Ian Burrell iburrell@znark.com http://www.znark.com/ From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Jun 15 17:28:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:28:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <1024187301.797.53.camel@tuxedo> On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 02:30, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > The main reason I decided to > go with the setup.exe option is due to the 'you can't have two versions of > cygwin.dll running at the same time' problem. And in fact you can use > setup.exe and still only have a 5-6 MB download (assuming you don't install > fonts etc and don't actually want anything more than X and bash to work or be > available). I had a play at doing this. Installing just the cygwin, zlib, update-info-dir, and Xfree86-xserv packages brought the total size on disk to just over 7Mb. The base cygwin package still has a lot of files unneeded here, all we really want is cygwin1.dll. All we need in the zlib package is cygz.dll, but there are a bunch of help files, .a files, etc as well. After culling the unneeded files, I got the total down to 3.7Mb. On top of this we need to add a couple of fonts, and a few configuration files, and any X libraries we wanted. > Strangely enough, I was planning to start work on project again this month, > and perhaps even this weekend, with my first step being to do the script to > configure XDMCP access on a 'standard' linux distribution. Hehe, finding a "standard" linux distrib could be fun :) Do you mean a script to enable an xdm type server for accepting remote connections? This would be a great idea! Kind of tricky though, with xdm, kdm, and gdm all doing this, but using different locations, and ach distribution probably puts the config files in different locations as well :) I was looking at working on enabling esd sound for a user logging in remotely. > My planned second > step was to then create a 'wizard' that would only download the components > you need (much less than even a base level cygwin install) and then use > setup.exe to install them. Unfortunately I don't know C or C++, and so was > planning to do the install wizard in either python and wxWindows or Java and > Swing. If someone want to do a 'native' windows version, that would be fine > by me. I'd be more than happy just to play bug-tester etc. This would be nice, as a 'wizard' type install is what I'm wanting. It doesn't help much in terms of size though, as there would be a lot of redundant files still installed (for this application). > Once I got this far, I was going to talk to Robert about possible ways to > enable 'non-cygwin packaged' programs to talk to and utilise setup.exe. I > have noticed that a number of open source Linux/Unix programs have their > windows version using the cygwin dll, but don't use setup.exe. It only takes > two of these programs to be using sufficiently different versions of the > cygwin dll for things to start breaking. This worries me quite a bit, as This is a good idea. I was trying to work out a way of using the /usr/local directories. If the initial install program couldn't find an existing cygwin install, then it could use it's own version of the cygwin libs. If it did find one, perhaps it could install everything into the /usr/local directories? Or perhaps put itself in the standard X locations, then create a package .lst file, etc. Is this enough though? If it had done an install without cygwin, and then someone had installed cygwin later, then the X launcher program could modify the path our XWin binary got, so that it would use the new cygwin install. There would be some issues here, maybe it would be better to give a warning that cygwin had been installed, and that our package needed to be reinstalled? Ideally I want to have it so that it inter-operates nicely with a cygwin install, but can also install and function without cygwin, so there are just the minimum required files needed, to reduce the overall size. > Because of the above, I think it is important to have a XDMCP only version of > Cgywin-XFree86 that does sit within the setup.exe framework. If no-one else I agree. I don't know if mine will do this entirely, as I would like to offer a cut down cygwin as well as cut down xfree. Perhaps I could release both, I will have to see how I go for time. I should get around to packaging the launcher program for setup.exe. It is a GPL delphi app, there is no problem doing this? I would install it to /usr/X11R6/bin ? Can I get setup.exe to create an icon on the desktop or in the start menu? I won't get a chance to do much this week, I have exams until Saturday, so will be rather busy :) Cheers, Tim. From lhall@rfk.com Sat Jun 15 18:46:00 2002 From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:46:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <200206160101.25136.rasjidw@openminddev.net> References: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020615213447.06023548@pop.ma.ultranet.com> At 11:01 AM 6/15/2002, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:30 am, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >> For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows >> port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are >> using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in >> the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also >> uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). >> > >Actually, I just checked a bit more carefully. They host the source for >cygwin 1.3.9, but it looks to me like the actual dll they use is B19 (or at >least, it is named cygwinb19.dll - perhaps they have a more recent one and >just name it that for compatibility??). It's possible. cygwin1.dll is binary compatible with B19 so they might just slip in a more current Cygwin DLL by renaming cygwin1.dll to cygwinb19.dll. This avoids a recompile and uses the new DLL. There are other ways around this (like editing the binary and replacing all occurrences of "cygwinb19.dll" with "cygwin1.dll " - spacing is important!) But a simple recompile and relink is the best course of action. With B19 so far in the past, it makes no sense to force these contortions/problems on users, assuming they are still using the B19 DLL in name at least. You'd do well to ask them about this. >Someone please tell me I'm wrong, but won't this potentially cause serious >problems if someone is running mysql (assuming it really is using B19) and >also tries to run an up-to-date cygwin install? You're not wrong. Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Sun Jun 16 05:55:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 05:55:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020615213447.06023548@pop.ma.ultranet.com> Message-ID: I'm trying to run gdbx, and I need cygwinb19.dll to do it. Where can I find that file? I've tried renaming to cygwin1.dll to cygwinb19.dll, but when gdbx starts, the CPU goes to 100% load and gdbx never appears, so that doesn't work. TIA From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 10:07:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A416@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <20020616170659.36653.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Where did you find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk ? I downloaded every XFree86 package and there is no file provided. --- Stuart Adamson a ??crit??: > You want to run xmodmap. In my startxwin.bat I do > > start /B XWin -loads of options here > start /B xmodmap.exe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk > start /B icewm.exe > > Type "man xmodmap" for more details. > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be > [mailto:jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be] > > Sent: 13 June 2002 13:36 > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is > working > > perfectly well except > > the fact that I can not change the keyboard from > Qwerty to > > Azerty. I have not > > found any explanations in the documentation. > > > > Any help? > > > > Thanks, > > > > J??r??me Stefanini > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 12:28:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:28:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020616192822.51909.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Harold and all, I have problems installing the test server via setup.exe. I try to set this adress: > http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ by clicking "add" in the mirror list. (http://archive.progeny.com is already in the list) The archive that is installed contains 4.0.2-6 version : Administrateur @ #> tar jtvf XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2 -rwxr-xr-x Administrator/None 3010048 2002-06-14 12:35:23 usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe and downloading it directly on the website gives : Administrateur @ #> tar jtvf XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2 -rwxr-xr-x Administrator/None 3064320 2002-06-13 05:50:40 usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe Does it means the installed version isn't the test release ? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 12:55:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:55:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <3D08F206.2030208@psyon.org> Message-ID: <20020616195457.13250.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> I downloaded source of glib (1.2-10) in order to compile gtk+. It fails with the follwing errors: gstrfuncs.c: In function `g_strsignal': gstrfuncs.c:705: conflicting types for `strsignal' /usr/include/string.h:70: previous declaration of `strsignal' gstrfuncs.c:705: warning: extern declaration of `strsignal' doesn't match global one --- Psyon a ??crit??: > I have GTK+ and GNOME compiled inside CYGWIN. I > used the directions on > the page linked from the main Cygwin page. It seems > to run ok for me, > but I dont play with a lot of stuff on it though. I > know some other > people said it wasnt stable enough to be a package > though. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 16 13:37:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 13:37:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] Message-ID: <200206162037.g5GKbKP28478@pilot04.cl.msu.edu> Sylvain, > Does it means the installed version isn't the test > release ? I downloaded the XWin-Test59.exe.bz2 file and the XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2 package from archive.progeny.com. Both archives had the version of XWin.exe from 20020614 (which is the Test59 binary). You must be inadvertantly pointing your `tar jvtf' at an older version of XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2. I don't like to have the Server Test Series releases distributed via setup.exe (because of versioning questions that I'm about to describe), but I decided to do it anyway to try to increase the testing of the Server Test Series releases. The primary problem is that to make test releases available via setup.exe I need to put a caveat lector (let the reader beware) for setup.exe users in the release announcements that would be so huge as to distract attention from the test release itself. The problem, as I see it, is that I need someway to version test releases such that I can indicate that one test release is newer than other test releases but also so that any given test release is seen as older than the latest stable release. The way I've chosen to do that for now is to give the test releases the version number of the *next* stable release. If I release 5 unstable releases between a stable release they will all have the same version. What is a user to do? Any user that messes with installing Server Test Series releases via Cygwin's setup.exe must uninstall their XFree86-xserv package before attempting to grab the latest Server Test Series release or any new stable release. Why? Because setup.exe doesn't know that a package with version 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-13 is older than the next Server Test Series (or stable) release 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-14. The behavior that I want from Cygwin's setup.exe, if it isn't already present and clearly documented, is as such: 1) Allow a different versioning scheme for the `test:' tag in setup.hint than the `curr:' tag (i.e., allow a test versioning scheme of 20020613-2245 for test and 4.2.0-6 for 'curr'. 2) Allow some way to indicate that the latest stable release supersedes all test releases up to a certain version. Alternatively, the test version could be 4.2.0-6-test-20020613-2245 (or something similar, whatever you need to make parsing easy and to retain compatibility with other versioning schemes). 3) When setup.exe sees that 4.2.0-6 stable is available it installs 4.2.0-6 stable overtop of whatever test release is installed (if the user allows the upgrade). Hmm... maybe I just have to use both the `curr:' and the `test:' tag in setup.hint and update them every time? One last question then: does setup.exe *ever* try to upgrade a test release to a stable release? Or does setup.exe just assume that any user who has installed a test release has taken the responsibility upon themselves as to when they should upgrade to the newest stable release? Harold From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sun Jun 16 13:50:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 13:50:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] In-Reply-To: <200206162037.g5GKbKP28478@pilot04.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <001401c21577$899aa4a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt > Sent: Monday, 17 June 2002 6:37 AM > The primary problem is that to make test releases available > via setup.exe I > need to put a caveat lector (let the reader beware) for > setup.exe users in the > release announcements that would be so huge as to distract > attention from the > test release itself. The problem, as I see it, is that I > need someway to > version test releases such that I can indicate that one test > release is newer > than other test releases but also so that any given test > release is seen as > older than the latest stable release. The way I've chosen to > do that for now > is to give the test releases the version number of the *next* > stable release. > If I release 5 unstable releases between a stable release > they will all have > the same version. The setup.ini format has two orthogonal parameters describing packages. One is version number. The other is 'Trust'. Trust is a 3 valued parameter - prev, curr, test/exp. Marking a package version as test means it will not be installed by default, it will require the user to cycle through the version list, or click on 'test' in the setup.exe chooser to have the package install. I'd suggest naming test releases like this: If current is 4.2.0-6 then Test could be 4.2.0-6Test1 Test could be 4.2.0-6Test2 Test could be 4.2.0-6Test3 Or even 4.2.0-6Test59 And the next release is 4.2.0-7 As long as the filenames and version numbers never equate, setup will do the right thing. And the Test marking will be obvious. > What is a user to do? Any user that messes with installing > Server Test Series > releases via Cygwin's setup.exe must uninstall their > XFree86-xserv package > before attempting to grab the latest Server Test Series > release or any new > stable release. Why? Because setup.exe doesn't know that a > package with > version 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-13 is older than the next > Server Test Series > (or stable) release 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-14. Setup cannot discriminate between packages with the exact same version number. Users will not need to uninstall their current package with what I'm suggesting - setup will do that automatically. > The behavior that I want from Cygwin's setup.exe, if it isn't > already present > and clearly documented, is as such: > > 1) Allow a different versioning scheme for the `test:' tag in > setup.hint than > the `curr:' tag (i.e., allow a test versioning scheme of > 20020613-2245 for > test and 4.2.0-6 for 'curr'. Already done. The schemes have to obey a very small policy, which both of the above do. > 2) Allow some way to indicate that the latest stable release > supersedes all > test releases up to a certain version. Alternatively, the > test version could > be 4.2.0-6-test-20020613-2245 (or something similar, whatever > you need to make > parsing easy and to retain compatibility with other > versioning schemes). Do my suggested version numbers above meet this criteria for you? > 3) When setup.exe sees that 4.2.0-6 stable is available it > installs 4.2.0-6 > stable overtop of whatever test release is installed (if the > user allows the > upgrade). Hmm, not sure on this one. You should create a trivial setup.ini file and test locally. This becomes a matter of policy for the cygwin-apps list. I *think* that the current behaviour is this, or very close anyway. > Hmm... maybe I just have to use both the `curr:' and the > `test:' tag in > setup.hint and update them every time? You will need to do that to get the correct info in setup.ini. > One last question then: does setup.exe *ever* try to upgrade > a test release to > a stable release? Or does setup.exe just assume that any user who has > installed a test release has taken the responsibility upon > themselves as to > when they should upgrade to the newest stable release? It treats the test release as a user decision, but will default on all changes to go back to current - unless the user chooses to stay on test. I.e. it'll downgrade to stable by default. Again, this is from memory, I don't recall the exact decision that was reached in cygapps. It can, of course, be reviewed and discussed. Rob From gp@familiehaase.de Sun Jun 16 14:45:00 2002 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 14:45:00 -0000 Subject: mailing list archive In-Reply-To: <20020615144401.51517.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020615144401.51517.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <125706124343.20020616234507@familiehaase.de> Hallo Sylvain, > --- Randy Bush a ?crit?: >> been through the faq and docs. but before i ask >> already answered questions, is there a searchable mailing list >> archive somewhere? > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ Also searching through google.com may help since it is a little faster: "keyword site:cygwin.com" Gerrit -- =^..^= From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 15:00:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] In-Reply-To: <200206162037.g5GKbKP28478@pilot04.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020616220004.62271.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> This not what I wanted to mean. I think that the archive who has been installed is the archive that exists at http://archive.progeny.com/ that has been installed as it is already in the site list. When I try to add http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ to the mirrors list, I get no visual effect. (ie no line is added into the mirror list). Comments ? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 16 16:15:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:15:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] Message-ID: <200206162315.g5GNFZh46596@pilot26.cl.msu.edu> Sylvain, > When I try to add > http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ > to the mirrors list, I get no visual effect. (ie no > line is added into the mirror list). Go to the mailing list archives and re-read the announcements for Test58 and Test59. Notice that the boilerplate text has changed regarding installing via Cygwin's setup.exe. As of Test59 you no longer need to point setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory. In fact, if you do point setup.exe there you'll only get old releases, such as Test58. I'll remove that directory eventually so that people will realize that they are not doing the right thing anymore. Does that answer your question? Harold From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 16:41:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:41:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] In-Reply-To: <200206162315.g5GNFZh46596@pilot26.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020616234152.70595.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> > Go to the mailing list archives and re-read the > announcements for Test58 and > Test59. Notice that the boilerplate text has > changed regarding installing via > Cygwin's setup.exe. As of Test59 you no longer need > to point setup.exe to the > cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory. In fact, if you do > point setup.exe there > you'll only get old releases, such as Test58. I'll > remove that directory > eventually so that people will realize that they are > not doing the right thing > anymore. > > Does that answer your question? > > Harold Understood. I thinkthat answers my question. In order to conclude the bugreport, verifying if everything is correct : what is the correct size for Test59 XWin.exe (ie for now XFree86-xserv-4.0.2-6)? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 16 19:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:28:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] Message-ID: <200206170228.g5H2S7942806@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Sylvain, > what is the correct size for Test59 XWin.exe (ie for > now XFree86-xserv-4.0.2-6)? The correct size for Test 59's XWin.exe is 3010048 bytes. The executable got smaller because we no longer include the experimental RANDR extension along with its supporting LAYER library/extension/layer (I'm not sure what to call it). Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 16 21:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:27:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 Message-ID: All changes from Server Test Series releases Test 56, Test 57, Test 58, and Test 59. Changes: 1) win.h, xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf - Stop building RANDR and disable Cygwin/XFree86's LAYER support. These two extensions were causing KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to not display. RENDER is still enabled. (Harold Hunt) 2) xc/programs/Xserver/os/osinit.c - Don't close the stdin, stdout, stderr file handles on Cygwin. We are no longer a command-line application so stdin, stdout, and stderr point to our first three file handles, rather than to their usual locations. This keeps the log file from being closed when you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin.exe'. (Stuart Adamson) 3) winwndproc.c - Call TrackMouseEvent to setup tracking for the WM_MOUSELEAVE message. When we see a WM_MOUSELEAVE message we show the cursor if we are hiding it. This will prevent cursors from disappearing when using the -lesspointer parameter. (Harold Hunt) 4) InitOutput.c, XWin.man, win.h, winwndproc.c - Add the -lesspointer command line parameter which causes Cygwin/XFree86 to hide the Windows mouse cursor when the mouse is over any Cygwin/XFree86 window (whether activated or not). (Stuart Adamson) 5) winwndproc.c - Call DefWindowProc after processing WM_NCMOUSEMOVE messages. This should fix the highlighting of the minimize and exit buttons in Windows XP. (Jehan Bing) 6) winwndproc.c, win.h, winallpriv.c - Make the cursor state variable, fCursor, a static local variable in winwndproc.c/winWindowProc (), rather than a member variable in the winPrivScreenRec structure. This makes sense because the Windows cursor is either hidden or shown, as Windows does not hide or show the mouse cursor on a per-window basis. This also greatly simplifies the handling of hiding and showing the Windows mouse cursor. (Jehan Bing) 7) InitOutput.c, win.h, wincreatewnd.c - Add a -nodecoration parameter that creates the Cygwin/XFree86 window that is the same size as the desktop, without a border. The end effect is that you can still get to the taskbar (even with Auto Hide enabled) and easily switch to other application while not giving up any screen space to the title bar, borders, etc. (Jehan Bing) 8) winkeybd.c - Disregard the bogus key releases that we see when losing the focus via Alt+Tab. (Stuart Adamson) 9) win.h, winkeybd.h, winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c - Release all pressed keys when the X server loses the keyboard focus. (Stuart Adamson) 10) InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) 11) wincursor.c - See if we are the foreground window before warping the Windows cursor position. This fixes the new bug that occurs if you launch Cygwin/XFree86 and give another application the focus. In that case the Windows mouse cursor would still jump to the center of the screen, even though the Cygwin/XFree86 window was not active. (Harold Hunt) 12) winkeybd.h - Fix the bug where pressing both shift keys then releasing them both would still cause all keyboard input to be shift-modified. The fix was to set the fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT key to KEY_ShiftL. (Harold Hunt) 13) wincreatewnd.c - Pass SW_SHOWNORMAL instead of SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when running a DirectDraw engine in fullscreen mode. This fixes the bug where launching Cygwin/XFree86 then giving another application the focus before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed would cause Cygwin/XFree86 to never display a window or register a window handle on the Windows taskbar. (Harold Hunt) Harold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(read a previous thread, before subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" seems to do a bit more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile below. is there a working lndir for winME? regards dan swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std $ ls CVS Makefile config fonts programs xmakefile INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std $ make World > World.log 2>&1 swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std $ tail World.log make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' cleaning in ./doc... make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' make: *** [World] Error 2 ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** The Russians used pencils. From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Mon Jun 17 00:53:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:53:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A417@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Took it from a linux machine which had an XFree86 install. I think I changed a couple of mappings in it as well - but not sure. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Sylvain Petreolle [mailto:spetreolle@yahoo.fr] > Sent: 16 June 2002 18:07 > To: Stuart Adamson; 'jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be'; > cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > Where did you find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk ? > > I downloaded every XFree86 package and there is no > file provided. > --- Stuart Adamson a > ?crit?: > You want to run xmodmap. In my > startxwin.bat I do > > > > start /B XWin -loads of options here > > start /B xmodmap.exe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk > > start /B icewm.exe > > > > Type "man xmodmap" for more details. > > > > Stuart > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be > > [mailto:jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be] > > > Sent: 13 June 2002 13:36 > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is > > working > > > perfectly well except > > > the fact that I can not change the keyboard from > > Qwerty to > > > Azerty. I have not > > > found any explanations in the documentation. > > > > > > Any help? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > J?r?me Stefanini > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Jun 17 02:25:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:25:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A417@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <20020617092535.29890.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Heh ? Are you saying that a user who doesn't have a Linux machine cannot install cygx correctly ? I can't believe that ! He, someone ! This can't be ! --- Stuart Adamson a ??crit??: > Took it from a linux machine which had an XFree86 > install. I think I > changed a > couple of mappings in it as well - but not sure. > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Mon Jun 17 03:12:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 03:12:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard References: <20020617092535.29890.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <07c901c215e7$2bdcbb30$65ad34c1@pcvivat> http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/index.php3?jump=xfree CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Stuart Adamson" ; Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: Switching to Azerty keyboard > Heh ? > Are you saying that a user who doesn't have a Linux > machine cannot install cygx correctly ? > I can't believe that ! > > He, someone ! This can't be ! > > --- Stuart Adamson a > ??crit : > Took it from a linux machine which had an > XFree86 > > install. I think I > > changed a > > couple of mappings in it as well - but not sure. > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 05:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 05:41:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <005901c215c4$f5bbe3e0$5800a8c0@bronco> Message-ID: cd x-devel/xc/config/util/ make -f Makefile.ini lndir That should give you a working version of lndir. Proceed as usual from there. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of ...2??... > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:05 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > first time ive ever downloaded the tree. > ive got winME, and lndir does barf on ".." (read a previous thread, before > subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" > seems to do > a bit > more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile > below. is there a working lndir for winME? > > regards > > dan > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ ls > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > xmakefile > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ tail World.log > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > cleaning in ./doc... > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** > NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing > a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, > on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures > ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. > *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** > The Russians used pencils. > From swan@atu.com.au Mon Jun 17 05:46:00 2002 From: swan@atu.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?Q?...2=AB...?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 05:46:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree References: Message-ID: <002001c215fd$cfab1480$5800a8c0@bronco> thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "...2??..." ; Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:41 PM Subject: RE: broken lndir so cant build tree > cd x-devel/xc/config/util/ > make -f Makefile.ini lndir > > That should give you a working version of lndir. Proceed as usual from > there. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of ...2??... > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:05 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > > > first time ive ever downloaded the tree. > > ive got winME, and lndir does barf on ".." (read a previous thread, before > > subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" > > seems to do > > a bit > > more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile > > below. is there a working lndir for winME? > > > > regards > > > > dan > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ ls > > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > > xmakefile > > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ tail World.log > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > cleaning in ./doc... > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** > > NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing > > a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, > > on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures > > ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. > > *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** > > The Russians used pencils. > > > > From nwourms@yahoo.com Mon Jun 17 06:26:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:26:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <002001c215fd$cfab1480$5800a8c0@bronco> Message-ID: <20020617132555.41490.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> Harold, I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. Cheers, Nicholas --- "...2??..." wrote: > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold Hunt" > To: "...2??..." ; > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:41 PM > Subject: RE: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > cd x-devel/xc/config/util/ > > make -f Makefile.ini lndir > > > > That should give you a working version of lndir. Proceed as usual > from > > there. > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of ...2??... > > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:05 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > > > > > > first time ive ever downloaded the tree. > > > ive got winME, and lndir does barf on ".." (read a previous thread, > before > > > subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" > > > seems to do > > > a bit > > > more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile > > > below. is there a working lndir for winME? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > dan > > > > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > > $ ls > > > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > > > xmakefile > > > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > > > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > > > LABEL bug-report extras nls > workInProgress > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > > $ tail World.log > > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > > cleaning in ./doc... > > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > > > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > > > > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** > > > NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing > > > a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, > > > on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures > > > ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. > > > *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** > > > The Russians used pencils. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 06:29:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:29:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree Message-ID: <200206171329.g5HDTnp33210@pilot02.cl.msu.edu> Dan, > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you copied the last lndir.exe to, right? If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc Hope that helps, Harold From boysen@first.gmd.de Mon Jun 17 09:28:00 2002 From: boysen@first.gmd.de (boysen) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:28:00 -0000 Subject: xwin.exe missing Message-ID: <3D0E0E96.9090905@first.gmd.de> Hi, I installed cygwin via the setup program over the internet. The installation process seemed to work ok, but now the xwin.exe file is missing somehow and I cannot get the thing to work. Any suggestions? Thanks! From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Mon Jun 17 10:18:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: xwin.exe missing Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A419@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Quick couple of checks ... 1) Did you select XFree86 in the package list? (if you already had an old cygwin install it won't get automatically selected. Not sure if it's selected by default with latest cygwin.) 2) Are you looking in the right place for it (/use/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe) This might not be in your path by default. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: boysen [mailto:boysen@first.gmd.de] > Sent: 17 June 2002 17:30 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: xwin.exe missing > > > Hi, > > I installed cygwin via the setup program over the internet. The > installation process seemed to work ok, but now the xwin.exe file is > missing somehow and I cannot get the thing to work. > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 12:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:03:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X Message-ID: <200206171903.g5HJ36w33066@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> Hal, First, wrong mailing list. Use cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, where I have redirected this discussion. (Make sure not to reply-to-all since that would send yet another email to the cygwin@cygwin.com mailing list.) > And yes, I checked, xwin is really not on my hard drive. You mean you've looked for XWin.exe (that's the exact capitalization and extension)? >From a Cygwin bash prompt, run: cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86 You should get ouput something like: XFree86-base XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-bin XFree86-bin-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-doc XFree86-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-etc XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-f100 XFree86-f100-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fenc XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fnts XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fscl XFree86-fscl-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-html XFree86-html-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-lib XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-man XFree86-man-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-prog XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-startup-scripts XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-xserv XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5.tar.bz2 0 The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your version number for this package. Harold From hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com Mon Jun 17 12:20:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com (Hal Rottenberg) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <200206171903.g5HJ36w33066@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: > First, wrong mailing list. Use cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, sorry, subscribed to the proper list now. > > And yes, I checked, xwin is really not on my hard drive. > > You mean you've looked for XWin.exe (that's the exact > capitalization and extension)? Yup. Just for the heck of it I also used case-insensitive Windows Find Files utility. > From a Cygwin bash prompt, run: > cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86 > The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your > version number for this package. Nope it's not there. I selected everything in the latest setup.exe minus cyrillic and japanese fonts. I don't know how to add or obtain a package that's not in the list. I also tried reinstalling the X category and that didn't help. I'm online to a mirror FTP site right now browsing--haven't found the right package yet. CYGWIN_NT-5.0 HALR9000 1.3.10(0.51/3/2) 2002-02-25 11:14 i686 unknown $ cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86 XFree86-base XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-bin XFree86-bin-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-doc XFree86-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-etc XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-f100 XFree86-f100-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fenc XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fnts XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fscl XFree86-fscl-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fsrv XFree86-fsrv-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-html XFree86-html-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-lib XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-man XFree86-man-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-nest XFree86-nest-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-prog XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-prt XFree86-prt-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-ps XFree86-ps-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-startup-scripts XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-vfb XFree86-vfb-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 From hal_rottenberg@hp.com Mon Jun 17 12:33:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@hp.com (ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:33:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X Message-ID: Ok, I downloaded Xxserv.tgz, placed xwin where it needs to be and I'm up and running. Is this a defect in setup that I encountered? Has anyone else seen this? Next step: KDE. :) > > The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your > > version number for this package. > > Nope it's not there. I selected everything in the latest > setup.exe minus cyrillic and japanese fonts. I don't know > how to add or obtain a package that's not in the list. I > also tried reinstalling the X category and that didn't help. > I'm online to a mirror FTP site right now browsing--haven't > found the right package yet. > > CYGWIN_NT-5.0 HALR9000 1.3.10(0.51/3/2) 2002-02-25 11:14 i686 unknown From evans@aps.anl.gov Mon Jun 17 12:43:00 2002 From: evans@aps.anl.gov (Kenneth Evans, Jr.) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:43:00 -0000 Subject: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing Message-ID: The header X11/Xw32defs.h seems to be missing when you download the headers via XFree-86-headers in Cygwin's setup.exe. Thanks, -Ken c:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\include\X11\Xos.h(142) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'X11/Xw32defs.h': No such file From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 12:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:51:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X Message-ID: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Hal, Which mirror where you using for Cygwin's setup.exe? (It will select the last mirror used if you run it again... or look in your local package directory and you'll see a directory name for each mirror you have used). I suspect that one or more mirrors out there is having a problem with getting all of the packages. Or, it could be a problem related to the fact that I am usind the 'test:' flag in the setup.hint without any corresponding 'curr:' flag. What version of setup.exe are you running? Harold "ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)" said: > Ok, I downloaded Xxserv.tgz, placed xwin where it needs to be and I'm up and > running. Is this a defect in setup that I encountered? Has anyone else > seen this? > > Next step: KDE. :) > > > > The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your > > > version number for this package. > > > > Nope it's not there. I selected everything in the latest > > setup.exe minus cyrillic and japanese fonts. I don't know > > how to add or obtain a package that's not in the list. I > > also tried reinstalling the X category and that didn't help. > > I'm online to a mirror FTP site right now browsing--haven't > > found the right package yet. > > > > CYGWIN_NT-5.0 HALR9000 1.3.10(0.51/3/2) 2002-02-25 11:14 i686 unknown > From cgf-noreply@cygwin.com Mon Jun 17 13:15:00 2002 From: cgf-noreply@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:15:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020617201546.GA11390@redhat.com> Redirecting to the correct mailing list. cgf On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 02:59:47PM -0400, Hal Rottenberg wrote: >And yes, I checked, xwin is really not on my hard drive. > > >Hal Rottenberg | Email: hal_rottenberg@hp.com >Technical Support Engineer | Jabber: hal_rottenberg@jabber.hp.com >http://www.hp.com/security | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 > HEWLETT-PACKARD > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hal Rottenberg [mailto:hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:51 PM >> To: Cygwin >> Subject: Problem starting X >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I've just installed Xfree86 over my existing cygwin install. >> I see that it installed the startxwin.bat and .sh files, but >> if I try to use them I get error finding the file XWin, which >> seems to be the x server itself. I've got cygwin-xf86-base >> checked in the setup. Cany anyone spot what I'm doing wrong? >> >> thanks >> >> P.S. Do not use reply, email address above was mangled to >> protect against spam. >> >> Hal Rottenberg | Hewlett-Packard >> Technical Support Engineer | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 >> Internet Security Division | Email: hal_rottenberg@NO-SPAM.hp.com >> (remove "NO-SPAM." to email me) >> Web: http://www.hp.com/security >> >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >> Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >> Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >> FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ >> > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From cgf@redhat.com Mon Jun 17 13:22:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:22:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020617202311.GA11650@redhat.com> On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 03:50:52PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Which mirror where you using for Cygwin's setup.exe? (It will select >the last mirror used if you run it again... or look in your local >package directory and you'll see a directory name for each mirror you >have used). I suspect that one or more mirrors out there is having a >problem with getting all of the packages. The mirrors list is updated twice a day. If there is a package missing or out-of-date from the mirror, it is dropped from the list. So, there should not be many problems with out-of-date mirrors. >Or, it could be a problem related to the fact that I am usind the >'test:' flag in the setup.hint without any corresponding 'curr:' flag. >What version of setup.exe are you running? You do have to specify both test and curr if you want both a test and a curr version. As soon as you specify any one of curr, test, or prev, you have to explicitly specify everything. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 13:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:32:00 -0000 Subject: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing Message-ID: <200206172032.g5HKWUR45712@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Ken, What package are you trying to build? We've had a report that building OpenMOTIF causes this error because of a spurious #define. Harold "Kenneth Evans, Jr." said: > The header X11/Xw32defs.h seems to be missing when you download the headers > via XFree-86-headers in Cygwin's setup.exe. Thanks, > > -Ken > > c:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\include\X11\Xos.h(142) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open > include file: 'X11/Xw32defs.h': No such file > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 19:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:32:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree Message-ID: <200206180232.g5I2WXI32038@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Keep replies to the mailing list only. Chris has informed me that there was a problem with lndir a within the last few weeks caused by a problem in cygwin1.dll. Make sure that you have the latest cygwin1.dll (by running the latest setup.exe from http://cygwin.com/setup.exe) and if that doesn't work try downloading a cygwin1.dll snapshot to see if the problem has been fixed since the last release (look on http://cygwin.com/ for the link to the snapshot page). Harold "...2??..." said: > lndir still, and always had, made a bunch of links regardless of the arg. > but either ive failed to d/ from cvs properly or lndir is traversing and > stopping somewhere it shouldnt. is there anyway to double check i > have the correct source tree to begin with? i try cvs update -d > all the time. > > dan > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ rm std/ -rf > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ mkdir std > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ cd std/ > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ lndir.exe /home/swan/x-devel/xc > ..: File exists > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ ls > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ tail World.log > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > cleaning in ./doc... > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ which lndir > /usr/bin/lndir > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold L Hunt" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 PM > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > Dan, > > > > > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > > > You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you copied the > last > > lndir.exe to, right? > > > > If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as > > lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > Harold > > > > > > From swan@atu.com.au Mon Jun 17 19:36:00 2002 From: swan@atu.com.au (=?Windows-1252?Q?...2=AB...?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:36:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree References: <200206180232.g5I2WXI32038@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <00ab01c21671$d435b400$5800a8c0@bronco> eeek sorry bout that, my bad. ill give that ago cheers dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold L Hunt" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:32 PM Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > Keep replies to the mailing list only. > > Chris has informed me that there was a problem with lndir a within the last > few weeks caused by a problem in cygwin1.dll. Make sure that you have the > latest cygwin1.dll (by running the latest setup.exe from > http://cygwin.com/setup.exe) and if that doesn't work try downloading a > cygwin1.dll snapshot to see if the problem has been fixed since the last > release (look on http://cygwin.com/ for the link to the snapshot page). > > Harold > > "...2??..." said: > > > lndir still, and always had, made a bunch of links regardless of the arg. > > but either ive failed to d/ from cvs properly or lndir is traversing and > > stopping somewhere it shouldnt. is there anyway to double check i > > have the correct source tree to begin with? i try cvs update -d > > all the time. > > > > dan > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > > $ rm std/ -rf > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > > $ mkdir std > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > > $ cd std/ > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ lndir.exe /home/swan/x-devel/xc > > ..: File exists > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ ls > > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ tail World.log > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > cleaning in ./doc... > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ which lndir > > /usr/bin/lndir > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Harold L Hunt" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 PM > > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > > > > > You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you copied the > > last > > > lndir.exe to, right? > > > > > > If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as > > > lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc > > > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de Mon Jun 17 23:55:00 2002 From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:55:00 -0000 Subject: Question: Function keys in Xterm/RXVT References: Message-ID: <3D0ED98F.5060603@visicon-online.de> Hi out there! I got a question concerning xterm and rxvt with cygwin. When I run xterm under LinuX, all function keys are passed to the application running (e.g. Midnight Commander). When I try doing the same with cygwin, only F1 to F4 are passed through, F5 and higher result in some key messages on the command line. With rxvt none of the function keys work. When I log into a linux box and start xterm on the remote session (still display is the cygwin box) erverything works (all function keys and even mouse support). What did I miss with the cygwin installation of xterm? Did I make a serious configuration mistake? Regards, Uwe ps: hope this is the right list... From keh112@york.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 02:05:00 2002 From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 02:05:00 -0000 Subject: Xwin.exe missing Message-ID: I have had a few problems with programs that need cygwin and come with their own distribution messing up my path (eg octave). Could this be the case in your case? Running setup again fixes it for me. -- Kirsty Hollingworth "The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers." Sydney J. Harris From hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com Tue Jun 18 04:07:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com (Hal Rottenberg) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: > Which mirror where you using for Cygwin's setup.exe? (It > will select the last mirror used if you run it again... or > look in your local package directory and you'll see a > directory name for each mirror you have used). I suspect > that one or more mirrors out there is having a problem with > getting all of the packages. > > Or, it could be a problem related to the fact that I am usind > the 'test:' flag in the setup.hint without any corresponding > 'curr:' flag. What version of setup.exe are you running? Grabbed a new setup.exe yesterday, version 2.249.2.3. Mirror: http://archive.progeny.com I tried again this morning and guess what? Right at the bottom where none existed before is now the xserv package. thanks for your help -hal From vaillant@recrutonline.com Tue Jun 18 05:09:00 2002 From: vaillant@recrutonline.com (vaillant@recrutonline.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: Votre avenir... Message-ID: vaillant@recrutonline.com Message-ID: Bonjour, Vous ??tes en recherche active d'emploi ou en situation de l'??tre prochainement ? Vous voulez tester les opportunit??s actuelles du march?? de l'informatique ? Alors d??posez en moins de 2 minutes votre CV sur RECRUTONLINE, cliquez sur http://www.recrutonline.com/fr/candidats/?p=inscription Ainsi vous pourrez ??tre contact?? par les recruteurs en recherche de comp??tences et avoir acc??s ?? leurs offres d'emplois. Rapidit?? et efficacit?? sont les ma??tres mots de RECRUTONLINE, espace de recrutement, qui par le biais d'un simple formulaire vous permet de vous pr??senter et de d??poser directement votre CV en pi??ce jointe. A tout de suite sur RECRUTONLINE Fr??d??ric Vaillant Responsable candidats. __________________________________________________________ RECRUTONLINE, le lieu de rencontre entre les candidats et les recruteurs des m??tiers de l'informatique. http://www.recrutonline.com __________________________________________________________ Si vous ne souhaitez plus recevoir de message concernant le site recrutonline, cliquez ci-dessous : http://www.recrutonline.com/contact.php?ml=cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 05:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:21:00 -0000 Subject: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gotta reply to the list, not me. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Evans, Jr. [mailto:evans@aps.anl.gov] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:08 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: RE: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing > > > Harold, > > I'm trying to build a program (X client) that uses libX, libXm, etc. using > Visual C++ as the compiler. (So far unsuccessfully.) It looks like this > header is included if WIN32 is defined, which I do. > > I now see the XFree86 stuff probably was not designed to be using > WIN32 this > way. So, perhaps as far as XFree86 is concerned it *is* > spurious. (But the > branch on WIN32 *is* in Xos.h.) > > BTW *is* it possible to build an X client using the XFree86 and LessTif > libraries with Visual C++? > > I have been doing this using the Hummingbird Exceed X and Motif libraries, > but I would like to consider changing to XFree86 and LessTif. (Open Motif > would be even better, but it isn't "open" for Windows.) The same programs > build with Open Motif or LessTif on Linux. It would be a lot > easier to use > stuff that more resembles UNIX as XFree86 does. And it would be nicer to > use the "same" stuff on all platforms. > > An alternative is to use the Cygwin compiler (gcc). This been more > successful. Then, WIN32 is not defined, but there are some other > problems. > > Thanks, > > -Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:32 PM > To: Kenneth Evans@msu.edu, Jr.; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing > > > Ken, > > What package are you trying to build? > > We've had a report that building OpenMOTIF causes this error because of a > spurious #define. > > Harold > > "Kenneth Evans, Jr." said: > > > The header X11/Xw32defs.h seems to be missing when you download the > headers > > via XFree-86-headers in Cygwin's setup.exe. Thanks, > > > > -Ken > > > > c:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\include\X11\Xos.h(142) : fatal error C1083: Cannot > open > > include file: 'X11/Xw32defs.h': No such file > > > > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 05:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:22:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <008301c2166c$19b3fba0$5800a8c0@bronco> Message-ID: Gotta reply to the list, not me. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: ...2??... [mailto:swan@atu.com.au] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:02 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > lndir still, and always had, made a bunch of links regardless of the arg. > but either ive failed to d/ from cvs properly or lndir is traversing and > stopping somewhere it shouldnt. is there anyway to double check i > have the correct source tree to begin with? i try cvs update -d > all the time. > > dan > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ rm std/ -rf > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ mkdir std > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ cd std/ > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ lndir.exe /home/swan/x-devel/xc > ..: File exists > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ ls > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ tail World.log > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > cleaning in ./doc... > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ which lndir > /usr/bin/lndir > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold L Hunt" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 PM > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > Dan, > > > > > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > > > You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you > copied the > last > > lndir.exe to, right? > > > > If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as > > lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > Harold > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 05:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:39:00 -0000 Subject: FW: xwinclip i18n patch Message-ID: This is Kensuke Matsuzaki's initial I18N patch for xwinclip. He sent a follow-up that I will forward shortly. Harold -----Original Message----- From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [mailto:zakki@peppermint.jp] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 4:25 AM To: Harold Hunt Subject: xwinclip i18n patch This is a patch that add COMPOUND_TEXT and TARGETS support and little fix for UTF8_STRING to xwinclip. /** * MATSUZAKI Kensuke * mail: zakki@peppermint.jp **/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xwinclip-i18n.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11886 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 05:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:40:00 -0000 Subject: FW: xwinclip i18n patch Message-ID: This is Kensuke Matsuzaki's second I18N patch for xwinclip. Let me know what you guys think of it. I'm going to apply it within a few days, with the change that it will determine if you are running Windows 95/98/Me or Windows NT/2000/XP before it tries calling GetClipboardData with CF_UNICODETEXT, which only works on NT/2000/XP. Harold -----Original Message----- From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [mailto:zakki@peppermint.jp] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:50 PM To: Harold Hunt Cc: MATSUZAKI Kensuke Subject: Re: xwinclip i18n patch Hi. I send new patch that use Xutf8* and CF_UNICODETEXT. Previous patch use Xmb*, but XLocase doesn't well on ja_JP.SJIS(Japanese encoding), so it is necessary for Japanese to apply Mr Fujieda's I18n extension for Cygwin DLL. #http://www.jaist.ac.jp/~fujieda/cygwin/i18n.shtml New patch workes without Fujieda's path. GetClipboardData(CF_UNICODETEXT) is supported only NT/2000/XP. And CP_UTF8 for WideCharToMultiByte is not supported in 95. I used it for dozens minutes on Windows 2000/XP. I can cut&paste Japanesse text between Internet Explorer/Notepad on Windows and Emacs/Mozilla/KWord on X. It seems this patch works well. But I have not tested other locale something like Chinese, Korean, Thai. /** * MATSUZAKI Kensuke * mail: zakki@peppermint.jp **/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xwinclip-i18n-utf.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12923 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 05:47:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:47:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <20020617202311.GA11650@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, > You do have to specify both test and curr if you want both a test and a > curr version. As soon as you specify any one of curr, test, or prev, > you have to explicitly specify everything. Done. Thanks. Harold From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Jun 18 05:48:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:48:00 -0000 Subject: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020618124830.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > I now see the XFree86 stuff probably was not designed to be using > > WIN32 this > > way. So, perhaps as far as XFree86 is concerned it *is* > > spurious. (But the > > branch on WIN32 *is* in Xos.h.) > > > > BTW *is* it possible to build an X client using the XFree86 and LessTif > > libraries with Visual C++? It's probably possible, but you'd need to undef some things like WIN32, and possibly others. > > I have been doing this using the Hummingbird Exceed X and Motif libraries, > > but I would like to consider changing to XFree86 and LessTif. (Open Motif > > would be even better, but it isn't "open" for Windows.) The same programs > > build with Open Motif or LessTif on Linux. It would be a lot > > easier to use > > stuff that more resembles UNIX as XFree86 does. And it would be nicer to > > use the "same" stuff on all platforms. > > > > An alternative is to use the Cygwin compiler (gcc). This been more > > successful. Then, WIN32 is not defined, but there are some other > > problems. That would be the best approach, but what other problems are you seeing ? Alan. From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 18 06:14:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 06:14:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020618131450.69362.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Where are they ? And if they exist why doesn't a package has been made ? --- Jean-Claude Gervais a ??crit : > You have to apply the cygwin patches to it and then > it compiles perfectly. > I was able to run all the sample GTK apps too. > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From cgf-noreply@cygwin.com Tue Jun 18 10:18:00 2002 From: cgf-noreply@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <20020617132555.41490.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> References: <002001c215fd$cfab1480$5800a8c0@bronco> <20020617132555.41490.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020618171900.GA4858@redhat.com> On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 06:25:49AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: >I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. >I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. Was this ever posted? I never saw it, if so. cgf From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Tue Jun 18 10:24:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:24:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin References: <20020618131450.69362.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D0F6CC1.8000701@ece.gatech.edu> Where: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/ (+ look at the links on that site) why they aren't official: nobody has volunteered to become the maintainer. See this page for information on creating setup-installable packages: http://cygwin.com/setup.html You'll see it is a lot of work, and nobody has yet had the time. Further, they depend on things that are not packages themselves (cygipc, libiconv, etc) -- and the rule is: "no official package may depend on anything but other official packages"(*) (*) one exception, which predated this policy: postgres depends on cygipc. Care to volunteer, instead of whine? --Chuck Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > Where are they ? > And if they exist why doesn't a package has been made > ? > > --- Jean-Claude Gervais a > ??crit : > You have to apply the cygwin patches to it > and then > >>it compiles perfectly. >>I was able to run all the sample GTK apps too. From fbregier@webmails.com Tue Jun 18 10:46:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:46:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <20020618173310.23182.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 11:20:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:20:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <200206181820.g5IIKZ224290@pilot21.cl.msu.edu> Frederic, > Does someone know how to fix it ? > It looks like this is only a problem of XFree with a color of more than > 8 bit, > but I don't understand why ? Your problem may be caused by the RANDR and LAYER extensions that were recently turned off (Server Test Series - Test 59) because they caused KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to fail to display. Please try Test 59, which can be installed via Cygwin's setup.exe by selecting the XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-6 package. For more instructions and the release announcement, see: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2002-06/msg00008.html Please reply to the mailing list with your results. I'd be interested to know if this fixes your problem or not. > This is for me the very last (I hope) thing that prevents me to > change all of our Exc..d with Cygwin/Xfree (gov company). On a side note: I wish that we had some idea how many users we have out there. From what I've seen on the web there seem to be a lot of system administrators that are installing Cygwin/XFree86 as a gateway to UNIX or Linux machines. These installations might be 10 to 100 users, but we have no way of knowing because these users have no idea that they are using an open source project, so they never email the mailing list for support... Regardless, I love seeing Cygwin/XFree86 saving governments or government contractors money. We're putting money back in the peoples' pockets :) Good luck, Harold From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Jun 18 11:52:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <20020618171900.GA4858@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020618185209.41891.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 06:25:49AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > >I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. > > >I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. > > Was this ever posted? I never saw it, if so. > > cgf Chris, It works now, thanks to your excellent skills in repairing that bad Pierre patch ;-). Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 12:09:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree Message-ID: <200206181909.g5IJ9mD28824@pilot27.cl.msu.edu> Nicholas, What was patched? cygwin1.dll? If so, I need to know the status of this, i.e., I need to know the version that fixes the problem, and if it isn't released I need to know the snapshot date, etc. Thanks, Harold Nicholas Wourms said: > --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 06:25:49AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > >I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. > > > > >I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. > > > > Was this ever posted? I never saw it, if so. > > > > cgf > Chris, > > It works now, thanks to your excellent skills in repairing that bad Pierre > patch ;-). > > Cheers, > Nicholas > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com Tue Jun 18 14:02:00 2002 From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:02:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin Message-ID: <20020618220216.4c30289f.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com> Hi On my website at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/ I have published the patches that I found that I needed to apply to build a gnome 1.4 desktop and some gnome apps on cygwin on NT/2k/XP. These are "unofficial", unsupported, and very experimental; suitable only for experienced users of gnome, cygwin, and the gnu build tools. That said, I think that it is the best you will find at present for a genuine gnome "experience" on Windows. I am currently, slowly, working to build binary packages, and add support for 9x/Me. But as I am the only person working on this project, and I have 40 packages to maintain, it will be quite some time before any binaries are published, and they may never make to it "official" cygwin package status, for the reasons stated by Chuck. However, I do hope that they will eventually be published somewhere as unsupported pre-built binaries that you can point cygwin setup.exe at, much like cygwin-KDE is at the moment. I'll let you know if I ever get that far. Steven Original message: Where: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/ (+ look at the links on that site) why they aren't official: nobody has volunteered to become the maintainer. See this page for information on creating setup-installable packages: http://cygwin.com/setup.html You'll see it is a lot of work, and nobody has yet had the time. Further, they depend on things that are not packages themselves (cygipc, libiconv, etc) -- and the rule is: "no official package may depend on anything but other official packages"(*) (*) one exception, which predated this policy: postgres depends on cygipc. Care to volunteer, instead of whine? --Chuck Sylvain Petreolle wrote: Where are they ? And if they exist why doesn't a package has been made ? --- Jean-Claude Gervais a ??crit : > You have to apply the cygwin patches to it and then it compiles perfectly. I was able to run all the sample GTK apps too. From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Tue Jun 18 15:41:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:41:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 References: Message-ID: <3D0FB6FA.6020008@stanfordalumni.org> Harold Hunt wrote: > All changes from Server Test Series releases Test 56, Test 57, Test 58, and > Test 59. > Are these patches in the CVS tree for the sourceforge.net xoncygwin project? I am assuming that is where Cygwin/XFree86 development happens and when things are stable they get fed to the XFree86 developers and added to their CVS tree. - Ian -- Ian Burrell iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 18 17:12:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:12:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <200206181909.g5IJ9mD28824@pilot27.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206181909.g5IJ9mD28824@pilot27.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020619001319.GA13277@redhat.com> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 03:09:48PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Nicholas, > >What was patched? cygwin1.dll? If so, I need to know the status of this, >i.e., I need to know the version that fixes the problem, and if it isn't >released I need to know the snapshot date, etc. I think it was this patch that fixed it: 2002-06-09 Christopher Faylor * fhandler_disk_file.cc (fhandler_disk_file::fstat_helper): Correctly set number of links for directory, if appropriate. This was fixing a thinko on my part, not Pierre's. This was fixed in CVS and subsequent snapshots. AFAIK, if you stick with Cygwin 1.3.10, you won't see this problem since it should have been introduced only in the fstat cleanup that happened after the 1.3.10 release. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 17:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:28:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 In-Reply-To: <3D0FB6FA.6020008@stanfordalumni.org> Message-ID: Ian, The xoncygwin tree on sourceforge is for the Native GDI development only. We're trying to keep the tree on sourceforge up to date, but that is not our primary concern. So, you kinda had it backwards :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@stanfordalumni.org] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:41 PM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 > > > Harold Hunt wrote: > > All changes from Server Test Series releases Test 56, Test 57, > Test 58, and > > Test 59. > > > > Are these patches in the CVS tree for the sourceforge.net xoncygwin > project? I am assuming that is where Cygwin/XFree86 development happens > and when things are stable they get fed to the XFree86 developers and > added to their CVS tree. > > - Ian > > -- > Ian Burrell > iburrell@stanfordalumni.org > http://www.znark.com/ > From fbregier@webmails.com Wed Jun 19 03:05:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:05:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From nwourms@yahoo.com Wed Jun 19 04:07:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <20020618220216.4c30289f.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20020619110700.58563.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Harold, Weren't you working on atk, glib, gtk+, gtk--, pango, and libungif? What's the word on these or have you been busy with other stuff? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve, The following packages are now part of the main dist: libxml, libxslt Also, the good news is there will (soon) be maintainers for official cygwin packages of: 1)I will be releasing db-4.0.14 shortly after the db-2 and db-3.3 releases. 2)I will volunteer to maintain audiofile as part of the main dist. 3)ImageMagick will be released soon (i hope) by David Billinghurst 4)Guile is being actively worked on, and is promised for release by Jan Nieuwenhuizen once it reaches 1.6. 5)Harold should be (not certain though) releasing the aforementioned packages in the first paragraph. So hopefully that will help to ease your support of the support libraries and allow you to focus more on the core packages of Gnome :-). My reccomendation would be to redo the autoconf.in and Makefile.am's to comply with autoconf-2.53a, automake-1.6.1, and libtool-1.4e-05/2002. This trio makes building dll's a whole lot easier. Also check out the new binutils release, as well. Cheers, Nicholas ------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Steven O'Brien wrote: > I am currently, slowly, working to build binary packages, and add > support for 9x/Me. But as I am the only person working on this project, > and I have 40 packages to maintain, it will be quite some time before > any binaries are published, and they may never make to it "official" > cygwin package status, for the reasons stated by Chuck. However, I do > hope that they will eventually be published somewhere as unsupported > pre-built binaries that you can point cygwin setup.exe at, much like > cygwin-KDE is at the moment. I'll let you know if I ever get that far. > > Steven __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From ciccotelli@cesi.it Wed Jun 19 06:52:00 2002 From: ciccotelli@cesi.it (Ciccotelli Massimo) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? Message-ID: <3D108C83.3030508@cesi.it> Hi all, I have a port of a Linux application on Cygwin which worked fine using XFree version 4.1.0. Executing the code after recompiling with version 4.2.0 it crashes (segmentation fault) when I try to open a menu. I have tried to identify the problem (unfortunately I am not an X11 expert); it seems due to a call of XtManageChild !!! Digging around in the Internet I have found a simple example which shows the same behaviour of my application. the code is the following: #include #include #include #include #include main(int argc, char *argv[]) { XtAppContext app; Widget top_wid, main_w, menu_bar, info, quit; /* callback for the pushbuttons. pops up dialog */ void info_pop_up(), quit_pop_up(); top_wid = XtVaAppInitialize(&app, "Demos", NULL, 0, &argc, argv, NULL, NULL); main_w = XtVaCreateManagedWidget("main_window", xmMainWindowWidgetClass, top_wid, XmNheight, 300, XmNwidth,300, NULL); menu_bar = XmCreateMenuBar(main_w, "main_list", NULL, 0); XtManageChild(menu_bar); /* create quit widget + callback */ quit = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( "Quit", xmCascadeButtonWidgetClass, menu_bar, XmNmnemonic, 'Q', NULL); /* Callback has data passed to */ XtAddCallback(quit, XmNactivateCallback, quit_pop_up, "Are you sure you want to quit?"); XtRealizeWidget(top_wid); XtAppMainLoop(app); } void quit_pop_up(Widget cascade_button, char *text, XmPushButtonCallbackStruct *cbs) { Widget dialog; XmString xm_string; void quit_activate(); Arg args[1]; /* label the dialog */ xm_string = XmStringCreateSimple(text); XtSetArg(args[0], XmNmessageString, xm_string); /* Create the WarningDialog */ dialog = XmCreateWarningDialog(cascade_button, "quit", args, 1); XmStringFree(xm_string); XtAddCallback(dialog, XmNokCallback, quit_activate, NULL); XtManageChild(dialog); // This call crashes the application. XtPopup(XtParent(dialog), XtGrabNone); } /* callback routines for dialogs */ void quit_activate(Widget dialog) { printf("Quit Ok was pressed.\n"); exit(0); } This code compiles and run fine in my Linux (RH7.1) box. Is it a bug??? Am I missing something?? I'm using cygwin 1.3.10 on Win98/Win NT 4 sp6 Thanks a lot, Massimo From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 08:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:03:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree In-Reply-To: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> Message-ID: Frederic, You're Java X app only support 8 bits per pixel. That much is now obvious. Cygwin/XFree86 supports only one visual type per screen (basically one bit depth per screen), whereas Exceed can simulate a couple visual types on a single screen. We might be able to implement a feature like that in the future, but it could take a long time. As I see it, you have to do something like this: 1) In, for example, xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c/winInitVisualsShadowDDNL, make another call to miSetVisualTypesAndMasks specifying an 8 bit frame buffer. (Only when in 15 bpp or higher.) 2) In hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c/winAllocateFBShadowDDNL, for example, allocate an 8 bit frame buffer (DirectDraw Surface) in addition to the surface that has the same bit depth as the screen. 3) In hw/xwin/winscrinit.c/winFinishScreenInitFB, make two calls to fbSetupScreen, one with the normal frame buffer and one with the 8 bits per pixel framebuffer. I don't know if calling fbSetupScreen twice is supported. You may have to give the 8 bit per pixel screen a dummy screen number (just pick one that isn't being used). Hopefully you wouldn't have to give a dummy screen number, cause then you'd have to explicity tell all 8 bit clients to connect to the other screen number. If fbSetupScreen doesn't support two calls for the same screen then we may have to see if we can change that or get that changed. 4) In hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c/winShadowUpdateDDNL, for example, blit the two different framebuffers to the screen. Heh, sounds easy, right? :) 5) You may want to look into the LAYER extension, xc/programs/Xserver/miext/layer, which seems to be designed to allow multiple visual types. I was unsuccessful at understanding how to work with it, but you may have better luck. That's a really rough outline, I'd be surprise if anyone could use it to get started, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 08:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <20020619110700.58563.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nope. I've been busy with other stuff :( Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:07 AM > To: Steven O'Brien; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: gtk with cygwin > > > Harold, > > Weren't you working on atk, glib, gtk+, gtk--, pango, and libungif? > What's the word on these or have you been busy with other stuff? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Steve, > > The following packages are now part of the main dist: > libxml, libxslt > > Also, the good news is there will (soon) be maintainers for official > cygwin packages of: > > 1)I will be releasing db-4.0.14 shortly after the db-2 and db-3.3 > releases. > 2)I will volunteer to maintain audiofile as part of the main dist. > 3)ImageMagick will be released soon (i hope) by David Billinghurst > 4)Guile is being actively worked on, and is promised for release by Jan > Nieuwenhuizen once it reaches 1.6. > 5)Harold should be (not certain though) releasing the aforementioned > packages in the first paragraph. > > So hopefully that will help to ease your support of the support libraries > and allow you to focus more on the core packages of Gnome :-). My > reccomendation would be to redo the autoconf.in and Makefile.am's to > comply with autoconf-2.53a, automake-1.6.1, and libtool-1.4e-05/2002. > This trio makes building dll's a whole lot easier. Also check out the new > binutils release, as well. > > > Cheers, > Nicholas > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Steven O'Brien wrote: > > I am currently, slowly, working to build binary packages, and add > > support for 9x/Me. But as I am the only person working on this project, > > and I have 40 packages to maintain, it will be quite some time before > > any binaries are published, and they may never make to it "official" > > cygwin package status, for the reasons stated by Chuck. However, I do > > hope that they will eventually be published somewhere as unsupported > > pre-built binaries that you can point cygwin setup.exe at, much like > > cygwin-KDE is at the moment. I'll let you know if I ever get that far. > > > > Steven > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From mark.hackmann@philips.com Wed Jun 19 09:09:00 2002 From: mark.hackmann@philips.com (mark.hackmann@philips.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:09:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: Message-ID: All, I'm new to this, but I spent some time looking through the instructions, web pages and archives for this problem, and couldn't find it. My apologies if I missed it. I installed a complete Cygwin and XFree86 on my Windows NT box in standard fashion, with the exception of pointing everything to the D: drive (a partition of the physical drive). This worked swimmingly, and came up with no trouble. However, I noticed a Cygwin subtree on the C: drive that was pretty sparse, having nothing in it until you get down to C:\Cygwin\usr\X11r6\lib\X11\fonts, where there are lots of subdirectories. Hmmm, says I. Is this necessary? So, I moved it to the D: drive in the same place, where, incidentally, there was nothing, and lo and behold, XFree86 is now broken! Here's the log file: ============================================== winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b 742 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' ============================================= Sure enough, the font paths are not qualified with a drive letter. When I copy the stuff back to the C: drive, everything is hunky-dorry. Anyone seen this before, or know what I should do? Maybe it's a bug in setup? Thanks, -Mark From lains@caramail.com Wed Jun 19 10:16:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:16:00 -0000 Subject: XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024504969000532@caramail.com> Hi, As you mentionned in your reply, set -x doesn't show whether children processes are started as background tasks or not. In the script I run, XWin.exe and twm are both started as background tasks. I actually get the same result when I do it on the command-line. What is really strange is that this does not happen all the times. Around 10% of the times I tried to start XWin, I could get it to work. When I manage to have it working once, it will always work the next times (until I reboot). Moreover, once it fails, if I try later on, I can sometimes get it to start. I've tried using Exceed on another machine and this works fine, but cannot Exceed it on my PC, so I need XWin. It started successfully this morning, so I can use XWin for the rest of the day... When XWin.exe doesn't start properly, it just stays on the list of tasks (although it doesn't seem to use any CPU time), and I can't kill it using CygWin's kill -9, I have to End task using WinNT task mamanger. Thanks, Lionel > -------Message d'origine------- > De : Romulus > Date : 15/06/102 01:14:46 > > You need to put things in the background with &'s. Mainly xwin.exe and > twm. Otherwise when the script starts XWin it will wait for Xwin to > finish before continuing on. Which is just as you described it. > > (At least I think that's what's happening... I don't recall if set -x > displays things like &'s. Seeing the actual script, and not its output > when -x is set in the shell, would make me more certain.) > > Open a cygwin shell window and try just 'xwin.exe &' , then 'twm &' , > then see if twm menus activate in the xwin window. > > Kdt > > --- Lionel Ains wrote: > > I'm getting difficulties to start an X server on CygWin > > under WinNT. > > I've installed XFree86 using the standard setup.exe installer. > > > > Here is what I'm getting when I launch startxwin.sh > > > > ~$ startxwin.sh > > + export DISPLAY=LAINS-1:0.0 > > + > > + rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix > > + XWin > > + twm > > + xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 > > > > The process XWin seems to hang and, of course, when I kill > > it, startx returns. > > > > + xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black > > -e /usr/bin/bash > > + exit > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > remaining. > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > remaining. > > > > Is there anything wrong with my config? Any log file I > > should check? > > After several failures, I could manage to start XWin only > > once (running XWin.exe directly also), but I can't get it to > > work again, now that I have rebooted Windows. _________________________________________________________ Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 10:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:36:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: Message-ID: <200206191736.g5JHa3W23560@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Mark, I know exactly what happened. You had Cygwin/XFree86 installed on the C drive. Then you removed it by deleting it. (Which left a registry key for Cygwin's mounts either under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Cygnus Solutions/Cygwin/mounts v2/'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts' or under the same key for HKEY_CURRENT_USER. This key points to c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts.) You then reinstalled Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe but pointed it to the d: drive this time. Cygwin's setup.exe was smart enough to correct the mounts for the standard mounts, but it does nothing for other mounts, such as for the fonts directory. We basically need a pre-install script for the fonts package that always unmounts the fonts mount and remounts it to the current Cygwin installation. Then we are ensured that we will intall the fonts on the correct drive or path. I'm not sure if there is such pre-install script handling. Your workaround follows: Open up regedit.exe or regedt32.exe and proceed to the registry keys mentioned above. Edit the fonts mount key and change the drive letter to 'd'. That should do it. You've already moved the fonts to the d drive, so they should be in the right place. Alternatively you can fix this by doing an `unmount' and a `mount', but I don't remember the parameters well enough to tell you exactly what to run... perhaps someone else will give you a quick example. Harold mark.hackmann@philips.com said: > All, > > I'm new to this, but I spent some time looking through the instructions, web pages and archives for this problem, and couldn't find it. My apologies if I missed it. > > I installed a complete Cygwin and XFree86 on my Windows NT box in standard fashion, with the exception of pointing everything to the D: drive (a partition of the physical drive). This worked swimmingly, and came up with no trouble. However, I noticed a > Cygwin subtree on the C: drive that was pretty sparse, having nothing in it until you get down to C:\Cygwin\usr\X11r6\lib\X11\fonts, where there are lots of subdirectories. > > Hmmm, says I. Is this necessary? > > So, I moved it to the D: drive in the same place, where, incidentally, there was nothing, and lo and behold, XFree86 is now broken! Here's the log file: > > ============================================== > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b 742 t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 > winRandRInit () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit () - returning > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > ============================================= > > Sure enough, the font paths are not qualified with a drive letter. When I copy the stuff back to the C: drive, everything is hunky-dorry. > > Anyone seen this before, or know what I should do? Maybe it's a bug in setup? > > Thanks, > > -Mark > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 10:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: <200206191743.g5JHhUw23484@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> Thomas, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > I did a quick search in Google concerning NumLock and stumbled upon the > following: > > http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/tag/32.html > > Sounds to me like XWin is doing the right thing, and the behavior when > NumLock is on is expected. Interesting. I was unaware of this switch. However, my conclusion is different. It sounds to me like a couple of engineers decided that NumLock should be a modifier instead of being handled by the server (I'm assuming that means that the server looks it NumLock is one and maps number pad key presses to other keys when this is the case). This was the New Theory of NumLock. Back in reality, 30% of well-known X Clients are oblivious to this New Theory of NumLock. I think we're going to have to revert to the old behavior for NumLock; that is, I think we're going to have to remap key presses for the number pad. Perhaps I'll make this configurable if possible (as to whether NumLock is a modifier or not). Add another one to the To-Do list... Harold From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Wed Jun 19 10:59:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: After doing some research on the web, I came up with a plausible workaround for the Numlock problem. I've implemented it and it works great on my computer. Probably don't want to make this a default, but perhaps could go into the FAQ. The idea is that it removes the NumLock modifier from the keyboard map, and forces the Keypad keycodes to always be interpretted as numeric keystrokes. Part 1. Add the following to your XWin startup file of choice (startxwin.bat, startxwin.sh, .xinitrc, etc. with appropriate modifications): xmodmap -e "clear mod2" ${HOME}/.Xmodmap Part 2. Add the following entries to the file ${HOME}/.Xmodmap: keycode 79 = KP_7 KP_Home keycode 80 = KP_8 KP_Up keycode 81 = KP_9 KP_Prior keycode 83 = KP_4 KP_Left keycode 84 = KP_5 KP_Begin keycode 85 = KP_6 KP_Right keycode 87 = KP_1 KP_End keycode 88 = KP_2 KP_Down keycode 89 = KP_3 KP_Next keycode 90 = KP_0 KP_Insert keycode 91 = KP_Decimal KP_Delete >From: "Harold Hunt" >To: "cygx" >Subject: Development item: NumLock >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:25:24 -0400 > >For anyone looking for something to do: > >Take a look at how we are messing up the handling of NumLock. For a simple >test case, install the lesstif package via Cygwin's setup.exe, run mwm.exe >as your window manager, make sure NumLock is on, then try to move a MWM >managed window. The window won't budge. Turn NumLock off and the window >can move freely. > >It may be incorrect to treat NumLock as a 'modifier key', see >xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c/winGetKeyMappings (), but not >treating NumLock as a modifier key causes the NumLock key to have no effect >on whether the numerical keypad gives you numbers (NumLock on behavior) or >arrows (NumLock off behavior). I think that both states of NumLock give >you >arrows in that case. > >For clues you can take a look at other servers, such as XDarwin over in >xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/darwinKeyboard.c. Notice that they use >modifier masks LockMask (CapsLock), ShiftMask, ControlMask, AltMask, >MetaMask and FunctionMask. But they don't use NumLockMask. > >What gives? Is NumLock a modifier key or not? If not, why doesn't it do >anything in Cygwin/XFree86 when we don't treat it as a modifier? > >Hopefully that provides enough food for thought. > >Good luck, > >Harold _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 11:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:31:00 -0000 Subject: XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <200206191831.g5JIV8A138662@pilot23.cl.msu.edu> Lionel, It sounds like you'v got the bug where XWin.exe would launch but would fail to show it's Window sometimes. Have you updated the XFree86-xserv package via Cygwin's setup.exe within the last week? Upgrade to 4.2.0-5 and if that doesn't work, try the 4.2.0-6 version that is marked as test (so you'll have to manually select it by clicking the version in setup.exe for XFree86-xserv.) Reply to the mailing list with your results, Harold Lionel Ains said: > Hi, > > As you mentionned in your reply, set -x doesn't show whether > children processes are started as background tasks or not. > In the script I run, XWin.exe and twm are both started as > background tasks. I actually get the same result when I do > it on the command-line. > > What is really strange is that this does not happen all the > times. Around 10% of the times I tried to start XWin, I > could get it to work. When I manage to have it working once, > it will always work the next times (until I reboot). > Moreover, once it fails, if I try later on, I can sometimes > get it to start. > I've tried using Exceed on another machine and this works > fine, but cannot Exceed it on my PC, so I need XWin. > > It started successfully this morning, so I can use XWin for > the rest of the day... > > When XWin.exe doesn't start properly, it just stays on the > list of tasks (although it doesn't seem to use any CPU > time), and I can't kill it using CygWin's kill -9, I have to > End task using WinNT task mamanger. > > Thanks, > > Lionel > > > -------Message d'origine------- > > De : Romulus > > Date : 15/06/102 01:14:46 > > > You need to put things in the background with &'s. Mainly > xwin.exe and > > twm. Otherwise when the script starts XWin it will wait > for Xwin to > > finish before continuing on. Which is just as you > described it. > > > (At least I think that's what's happening... I don't > recall if set -x > > displays things like &'s. Seeing the actual script, and > not its output > > when -x is set in the shell, would make me more certain.) > > > Open a cygwin shell window and try just 'xwin.exe &' , > then 'twm &' , > > then see if twm menus activate in the xwin window. > > > Kdt > > > --- Lionel Ains wrote: > > > I'm getting difficulties to start an X server on CygWin > > > under WinNT. > > > I've installed XFree86 using the standard setup.exe > installer. > > > > > Here is what I'm getting when I launch startxwin.sh > > > > > ~$ startxwin.sh > > > + export DISPLAY=LAINS-1:0.0 > > > + > > > + rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix > > > + XWin > > > + twm > > > + xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 > > > > > The process XWin seems to hang and, of course, when > I kill > > > it, startx returns. > > > > > + xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow > -bg black > > > -e /usr/bin/bash > > > + exit > > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > > > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > > remaining. > > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > > remaining. > > > > > Is there anything wrong with my config? Any log file I > > > should check? > > > After several failures, I could manage to start XWin only > > > once (running XWin.exe directly also), but I can't get it to > > > work again, now that I have rebooted Windows. > _________________________________________________________ > Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis > http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ > > From mark.hackmann@philips.com Wed Jun 19 12:17:00 2002 From: mark.hackmann@philips.com (mark.hackmann@philips.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:17:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: Message-ID: Harold, You are exactly correct. I did indeed install, then delete the thing on the C: drive, and neglected to remove the keys from the registry, figuring they'd be overwritten {sheepish embarrassment}. I changed the one that said "C:" on the front, and rebooted. Now all works as expected. Thanks, -Mark Harold L Hunt cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: 06/19/02 10:36 Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: AM Classification: Mark, I know exactly what happened. You had Cygwin/XFree86 installed on the C drive. Then you removed it by deleting it. (Which left a registry key for Cygwin's mounts either under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Cygnus Solutions/Cygwin/mounts v2/'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts' or under the same key for HKEY_CURRENT_USER. This key points to c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts.) You then reinstalled Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe but pointed it to the d: drive this time. Cygwin's setup.exe was smart enough to correct the mounts for the standard mounts, but it does nothing for other mounts, such as for the fonts directory. We basically need a pre-install script for the fonts package that always unmounts the fonts mount and remounts it to the current Cygwin installation. Then we are ensured that we will intall the fonts on the correct drive or path. I'm not sure if there is such pre-install script handling. Your workaround follows: Open up regedit.exe or regedt32.exe and proceed to the registry keys mentioned above. Edit the fonts mount key and change the drive letter to 'd'. That should do it. You've already moved the fonts to the d drive, so they should be in the right place. Alternatively you can fix this by doing an `unmount' and a `mount', but I don't remember the parameters well enough to tell you exactly what to run... perhaps someone else will give you a quick example. Harold mark.hackmann@philips.com said: > All, > > I'm new to this, but I spent some time looking through the instructions, web pages and archives for this problem, and couldn't find it. My apologies if I missed it. > > I installed a complete Cygwin and XFree86 on my Windows NT box in standard fashion, with the exception of pointing everything to the D: drive (a partition of the physical drive). This worked swimmingly, and came up with no trouble. However, I noticed a > Cygwin subtree on the C: drive that was pretty sparse, having nothing in it until you get down to C:\Cygwin\usr\X11r6\lib\X11\fonts, where there are lots of subdirectories. > > Hmmm, says I. Is this necessary? > > So, I moved it to the D: drive in the same place, where, incidentally, there was nothing, and lo and behold, XFree86 is now broken! Here's the log file: > > ============================================== > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b 742 t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 > winRandRInit () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit () - returning > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > ============================================= > > Sure enough, the font paths are not qualified with a drive letter. When I copy the stuff back to the C: drive, everything is hunky-dorry. > > Anyone seen this before, or know what I should do? Maybe it's a bug in setup? > > Thanks, > > -Mark > > From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Wed Jun 19 14:29:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:29:00 -0000 Subject: Crash under low memory Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A421@ldnisp14.evolution.net> I've just been playing with some samples in java on my Win2k laptop. XFree86 with a couple of rvxt's open was running in the background. The java process ate up all the memory on the machine and I got the windows "You system is running low on memory" dialog box appearing. After short while after I cleared that, both XFree86 and the rvxt's in it core dumped. The XWin.exe.stackdump file gives ... Stack trace: Frame Function Args 0022ECC4 77E83B5B (00000000, 00050000, 0022F344, 6105A669) 0022ED14 6105A99E (00000000, 103FD540, 0022ED84, 0042D132) 0022ED54 61058105 (00000324, 00000006, 0022F75C, 00000000) 0022ED94 61058342 (00000324, 00000006, 0022EDF4, 61058789) 0022EDB4 610581CA (00000006, 00000000, 0022EDF4, 61058754) 0022EDF4 6105879F (00000404, 00000102, 0022EE14, 61098CF1) 0022EE04 61098CE3 (00000000, 0000011E, 0022F484, 61098F03) 0022EE14 61098CF1 (610F6238, 0000011E, 0022F75C, 0022F588) 0022F484 61098F03 (00000000, 0000011E, 0022F75C, 00000000) 0022F5A4 61098505 (00003028, 00000001, 0022F6E4, 61098426) 0022F5E4 61055E59 (10407858, 0022F854, 0022F634, 00000003) 0022F734 610531A9 (0022F854, 0022F79C, 0022F77C, 0022F75C) 0022F8F4 61052C0F (000000FF, 0070941C, 0022F7DC, 0022F7BC) 0022F9F4 0042ED0A (0022FA0C, 00000008, 0022FE24, 004072D6) 0022FE24 0040720C (00000004, 610A0368, 00000000, 10020000) 0022FE54 0040199D (00000009, 10031908, 10030278, 00000000) End of stack trace (more stack frames may be present) cygwin1.dll is loaded at base address 0x61000000, kernel32.dll is loaded at base address 0x77e80000 and XWin.exe has base address 0x00400000. I'm guessing that something isn't checking that it actually got allocated memory. Is this a known bug in either cygwin or XFree86? Stuart (time to recompile with -g and see if I can get some more info) From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Wed Jun 19 15:32:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:32:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree In-Reply-To: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> References: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> Message-ID: <1024525926.1732.52.camel@tuxedo> On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 22:19, frederic bregier wrote: > The very last thing I need to do is something like the Ex...d manager > that > allows us to have a window with our usual servers to address. > I make it for the moment using a shell script. > I saw someone (Tim Thomson) that has done a graphical interface of such > > tool ("a delphi app, which runs the XWin binary > with some options you can set on a preferences screen"). > If someone gets the source or has something relative, of course > I am interested. I will put the source up for download this weekend sometime. I'll also modify the program to work with a stock cygwin-xfree install (just needs to look in the correct registry keys), and fix a few other bugs. I have an exam tomorrow and Saturday so am pushed for time at the moment :) There are no other similar programs currently to this? Cheers, Tim. From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 16:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: Crash under low memory In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A421@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, > I've just been playing with some samples in java on my Win2k laptop. > XFree86 with a couple of rvxt's open was running in the background. > > The java process ate up all the memory on the machine and I got the > windows "You system is running low on memory" dialog box appearing. > After short while after I cleared that, both XFree86 and the rvxt's > in it core dumped. I've never seen this problem myself, but I don't doubt that it could occur. There could very well be a mistake in the handling of an out-of-memory condition in the Cygwin portion of XFree86 (hw/xwin). However, XFree86 as a whole might have been written from the standpoint that if the main graphics app runs out of memory then the whole system is going down anyway. In other words, you'll find out from your debug whether or not the crash is in a portion of the code that we have any control over. It could be that the crash could occur in several places that we aren't responsible for so it may become too daunting of a task to fix. I think its definitely worth looking into to at least find out where the crash occurs. Let me know when you find out. > The XWin.exe.stackdump file gives ... > > Stack trace: I may seem like I know my stuff about programming, but I've never bother to learn stack dump voodoo. I'll add that to my list of things to look into someday. :) Harold From fbregier@webmails.com Thu Jun 20 00:44:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:44:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <20020620074447.13528.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From marzullo@la-defense.oilfield.slb.com Thu Jun 20 06:05:00 2002 From: marzullo@la-defense.oilfield.slb.com (Laurent Marzullo) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:05:00 -0000 Subject: Alt GR/XFree86/Cygwin Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020620150512.00abb8f0@pop.la-defense.oilfield.slb.com> Hello, I use a Belgian Keyboard. And I would like to be able to use key that could only be obtain when pressing 'Alt_R' key. Could someone tell me how to do so with XFree86/Cygwin. For now, I'm not able to use pipe, at sign, bracket etc. I've search on google, saw something telling that Windows send CTRL_L and another key but nothing about how to get around this problem. Could any one help me please ?? mailto:laurent.marzullo@laposte.net Thank you very much From andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com Thu Jun 20 06:07:00 2002 From: andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com (Okerholm, Andrea M.) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: Where is XWin? Message-ID: <111580DB630FD211BE0900A0C9D722DF01482EBE@xcgpa001.pa.essd.northgrum.com> I installed cygwin, with all of the packages. Yet I do not have XWin.exe on my system! Thanks Andrea From andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com Thu Jun 20 06:29:00 2002 From: andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com (Okerholm, Andrea M.) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:29:00 -0000 Subject: Where is XWin? Message-ID: <111580DB630FD211BE0900A0C9D722DF01482EC0@xcgpa001.pa.essd.northgrum.com> Never mind, reinstalling xserv did the trick. > -----Original Message----- > From: Okerholm, Andrea M. > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:07 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Where is XWin? > > I installed cygwin, with all of the packages. > Yet I do not have XWin.exe on my system! > > Thanks > Andrea From romulusnr@yahoo.com Thu Jun 20 10:10:00 2002 From: romulusnr@yahoo.com (Romulus) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:10:00 -0000 Subject: Alt GR/XFree86/Cygwin In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020620150512.00abb8f0@pop.la-defense.oilfield.slb.com> Message-ID: <20020620171041.21123.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> --- Laurent Marzullo wrote: > Hello, > > I use a Belgian Keyboard. And I would like to be able to use > key that could only be obtain when pressing 'Alt_R' key. Well, Thomas C. introduced me to xmodmap the other day to solve my NumLock problem, so I thought that might help you too. I did this: xmodmap -e "clear mod1" -e "clear mod4" -e "add mod1 = Alt_L" -e "add mod4 = Alt_R" which makes Alt_R a different modifier than Alt_L. You'll have to read your WM or app documentation to determine how to set bindings to mod4. In fvwm2 I tested it like this: # Alt_L + 4 will open Banner, Alt_R + 7 will open WinList Key KP_7 A 4 FvwmWinList Key KP_4 A M FvwmBanner Unfortunately there are lots of comments out there that say you should not assume that mod1=meta, as I do above. (Of course I could also use '1' instead of 'M' in the example above to avoid that.) If your app doesn't let you bind to mod1-5 combinations, I dunno how to solve that. HTH, Kdt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From quaestor@bellsouth.net Thu Jun 20 10:23:00 2002 From: quaestor@bellsouth.net (Ben Alkov) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:23:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER extension in Server test 59 Message-ID: <3D120EDC.3040107@bellsouth.net> Or rather, "RENDER extension NOT in Server test 59". Running an xterm with -fa -fs options (worked previously) causes X to complain about RENDER extension not available. I guess I'm the only one using anti-aliased fonts *grin*. xdpyinfo, likewise, shows no RENDER extension. Server Test 58 works fine. P.S. Immense thanks to all the Cygwin team, and the many people responsible for bringing free (stable, working: Exceed - *puke*) X to MS Windows at long last. I don't exaggerate when I say it's a bit of a dream come true... Also, specific kudos for the recent mousewheel fix for cygwin setup, and the -nodecorations switch for X. Keep up the good work! From lains@caramail.com Thu Jun 20 10:31:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:31:00 -0000 Subject: Re[1] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024594305019660@caramail.com> Hi Harold, I've upgraded to 4.2.0-5, and then 4.2.0-6 without success. XWin.exe remains frozen and its window doesn't appear on the screen. It will probably work from time to time, though, as 4.2.0-4 did. It looks like Iam the only one to experience this issue. I'll try and find out what is the trigger that finally makes XWin.exe work when I restart it after some time. Lionel > -------Message d'origine------- > De : Harold L Hunt > Date : 19/06/102 20:31:16 > > Lionel, > > It sounds like you'v got the bug where XWin.exe would launch but would fail to > show it's Window sometimes. > > Have you updated the XFree86-xserv package via Cygwin's setup.exe within the > last week? Upgrade to 4.2.0-5 and if that doesn't work, try the 4.2.0-6 > version that is marked as test (so you'll have to manually select it by > clicking the version in setup.exe for XFree86-xserv.) > > Reply to the mailing list with your results, > > Harold ______________________________________________________ Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 20 10:49:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:49:00 -0000 Subject: Re[1] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A426@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Does anything appear in /tmp/XWin.log ? > I've upgraded to 4.2.0-5, and then 4.2.0-6 without success. > XWin.exe remains frozen and its window doesn't appear on > the screen. It will probably work from time to time, > though, as 4.2.0-4 did. > From robert.collins@syncretize.net Thu Jun 20 13:36:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:36:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER extension in Server test 59 In-Reply-To: <3D120EDC.3040107@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <004d01c2189a$21c84b40$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Ben Alkov > Sent: Friday, 21 June 2002 3:20 AM > Also, specific kudos for the recent mousewheel fix for cygwin > setup We fixed it? Ah, mmm, ok!. Thanks for the feedback. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 20 14:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:31:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER extension in Server test 59 Message-ID: <200206202131.g5KLVHw101008@pilot17.cl.msu.edu> Ben, You're right. Looks like I made a mistake in rebuilding. I'll rebuild and release a Test 60 tonight, hopefully. Harold Ben Alkov said: > Or rather, "RENDER extension NOT in Server test 59". Running an xterm > with -fa -fs options (worked previously) causes X to complain about > RENDER extension not available. I guess I'm the only one using > anti-aliased fonts *grin*. xdpyinfo, likewise, shows no RENDER > extension. Server Test 58 works fine. > > P.S. > Immense thanks to all the Cygwin team, and the many people responsible > for bringing free (stable, working: Exceed - *puke*) X to MS Windows at > long last. I don't exaggerate when I say it's a bit of a dream come > true... Also, specific kudos for the recent mousewheel fix for cygwin > setup, and the -nodecorations switch for X. Keep up the good work! > > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 20 15:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER - Bad news for KDE 3.0 icons Message-ID: My build check with RENDER re-enabled was inaccurate. For some reason RENDER did not get built into the server. I thought I had tested the server with RENDER re-enabled but I hadn't. It turns out that RENDER is the culprit here. Now we get to go bug hunting. Any takers? Harold From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Thu Jun 20 20:20:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... Message-ID: First, an apology. This is not, strictly speaking, a Cygwin/Xfree question. I know it's possible to span a single X desktop (for lack of a better term) across multiple display adapters residing in the same machine. Basically the 2 attached monitors behavior as the left and right halves of single, unified root window. What I'm trying to find out is if it's possible to span a single X desktop across 2 display adapters, each residing on a different machine? If so, what would it take to get this set up? I guess it comes down to whether the "spanning" function is something handled completely by the X server, or if it's implemented by the Window Manager or some other piece of "middle ware". _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From tim@tui.dhs.org Thu Jun 20 21:41:00 2002 From: tim@tui.dhs.org (Tim Thomson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:41:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1024634488.796.6.camel@tuxedo> Hi there, I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support this? Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where it originated. Hope this helps, Tim. On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 15:20, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > First, an apology. This is not, strictly speaking, a Cygwin/Xfree question. > > I know it's possible to span a single X desktop (for lack of a better term) > across multiple display adapters residing in the same machine. Basically > the 2 attached monitors behavior as the left and right halves of single, > unified root window. > > What I'm trying to find out is if it's possible to span a single X desktop > across 2 display adapters, each residing on a different machine? If so, > what would it take to get this set up? > > I guess it comes down to whether the "spanning" function is something > handled completely by the X server, or if it's implemented by the Window > Manager or some other piece of "middle ware". > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > From lains@caramail.com Fri Jun 21 03:57:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:57:00 -0000 Subject: Re[2] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024657037011046@caramail.com> Here is the content of /tmp/XWin.log: winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 >From: Stuart Adamson > >Does anything appear in /tmp/XWin.log ? _________________________________________________________ Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ From lains@caramail.com Fri Jun 21 04:12:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024657928006233@caramail.com> Today, I started alright at the first attempt. The content of /tmp/XWin.log is: winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning ______________________________________________________ Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 21 04:19:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:19:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... In-Reply-To: <1024634488.796.6.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <20020621111947.67764.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> --- Tim Thomson wrote: > Hi there, > > I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to > support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support this? > > Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: > http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html > > There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where it > originated. Tim, It was designed by DEC (Digital) back in '97 and can still be found at: ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/SRC/x2x/ Dunno if it still works, but it's worth a try ;-). Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 05:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start In-Reply-To: <1024657928006233@caramail.com> Message-ID: Lionel, Is there any particular reason why you're using the Shadow DirectDraw engine instead of the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine? Are you passing a `-engine 2' parameter? You're platform, NT/2000, should allow you to use ShadowDDNL if you have NT 4.0 SP3+. What's going on here? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lionel Ains > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:12 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start > > > Today, I started alright at the first attempt. The content > of /tmp/XWin.log is: > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines > 0000001b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth > of 32 bits per pixel > > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h > 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 > t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff > BPRGB 8 d 32 > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit () - returning > ______________________________________________________ > Bo??te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com > > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Jun 21 07:34:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:34:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... Message-ID: Thank you, thank you, thank you! Grabbed the src from DEC, built it in a jiffy, and voila! It is EXACTLY what I was looking for. FYI - I did some additional poking around and found this, which describes making x2x more secure: http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/x2x.html >From: Nicholas Wourms >To: Tim Thomson , cygwin-xfree Mailing List > >Subject: Re: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:19:47 -0700 (PDT) > >--- Tim Thomson wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to > > support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support this? > > > > Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: > > http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html > > > > There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where it > > originated. >Tim, > >It was designed by DEC (Digital) back in '97 and can still be found at: >ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/SRC/x2x/ > >Dunno if it still works, but it's worth a try ;-). > >Cheers, >Nicholas > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From nickthompson@agere.com Fri Jun 21 07:57:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:57:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K Message-ID: <1024671428.6742.103.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Hi, I have used cygwin/XF86 4.1.0 on Win95/98 for sometime and it works fine, but on Win2k machines the server starts and I can make local connections, but remote connections just cause a AUDIT messages on the cygwin console: AUDIT: Fri Jun 21 14:18:57 2002: 1040 XWin.exe: client 1 rejected from IP xxx.xx.xx.xxx port 35658 'xhost +' seems to take a long time and has no effect. Trying indirect XDMCP with another remote machine logs the following on the remote: Xlib: connection to "myhost:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Error: Can't open display: myhost:0 'ping myhost' says the machine is alive the name seems resolveable from the IP address of the machine. Any idea what could be wrong? Thanks, Nick. From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 21 08:45:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:45:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020621154533.56549.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Thomas, You are very welcome! Now that we've helped you, perhaps you want to volunteer to submit and maintain this as a package for the main distribution of Cygwin? It's real easy, just follow the instructions at: http://cygwin.com/setup.html When you're ready, just submit the information to this list rather than cygwin-apps. If you have any questions about packaging, feel free to ask. Cheers, Nicholas --- Thomas Chadwick wrote: > Thank you, thank you, thank you! Grabbed the src from DEC, built it in > a > jiffy, and voila! It is EXACTLY what I was looking for. FYI - I did > some > additional poking around and found this, which describes making x2x more > > secure: > > http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/x2x.html > > >From: Nicholas Wourms > >To: Tim Thomson , cygwin-xfree Mailing List > > > >Subject: Re: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... > >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:19:47 -0700 (PDT) > > > >--- Tim Thomson wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to > > > support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support > this? > > > > > > Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: > > > http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html > > > > > > There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where > it > > > originated. > >Tim, > > > >It was designed by DEC (Digital) back in '97 and can still be found at: > >ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/SRC/x2x/ > > > >Dunno if it still works, but it's worth a try ;-). > > > >Cheers, > >Nicholas > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From jnie@jhu.edu Fri Jun 21 10:47:00 2002 From: jnie@jhu.edu (Jinsuo Nie) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:47:00 -0000 Subject: No color GUI for Xfig Message-ID: <008801c2194c$14d27160$668acf82@PAPYRUS> Hi, all, I installed Xfig 3.2.3d on Xfree86/Cygwin. It works fine except that no color interface at all. How can I got the color interface. If I use Star Xwin32, it shows the color GUI. But I prefer Xfree86 since it has no time limit. Thanks Jinsuo From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Jun 21 12:02:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:02:00 -0000 Subject: Proposed new package: x2x Message-ID: Since the x2x thing built so easily, I figured I try to package it for the Cygwin setup. Here's the setup.hint: @ x2x sdesc: "Combines 2 independent X sessions into a single, multi-headed X session." ldesc: "Combines 2 independent X sessions into a single, multi-headed X session. Each X session can be running on a different machine, can have different resolutions, color depths, and even different window managers." category: XFree86 requires: cygwin XFree86-xserv XFree86-base Question about the setup.hint file. Should it be in Unix text format (NEWLINE=CR) or Windows text format (NEWLINE=CR+LF). Does it matter? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 15:16:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:16:00 -0000 Subject: Proposed new package: x2x In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unix text format. Example setup.hint attached. You need to create the actual package now: http://cygwin.com/setup.html Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:03 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Proposed new package: x2x > > > Since the x2x thing built so easily, I figured I try to package > it for the > Cygwin setup. Here's the setup.hint: > > @ x2x > sdesc: "Combines 2 independent X sessions into a single, multi-headed X > session." > ldesc: "Combines 2 independent X sessions into a single, multi-headed X > session. > Each X session can be running on a different machine, can have different > resolutions, color depths, and even different window managers." > category: XFree86 > requires: cygwin XFree86-xserv XFree86-base > > Question about the setup.hint file. Should it be in Unix text format > (NEWLINE=CR) or Windows text format (NEWLINE=CR+LF). Does it matter? > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: setup.hint Type: application/octet-stream Size: 167 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 22:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:31:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 60 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 60 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 60 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'curr' package: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 (Note: Test 60 is the new stable release.) Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test60.exe.bz2 (1070 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020622-0007.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold Hunt) 2) wincreatwnd.c - Remove a seemingly erroneous return from winCreateBoundingWindowFullScreen when we are using the Shadow GDI engine. This return was before we called UpdateWindow and BringWindowToTop. This seems to have snuck in at some point during merging of my local 4.2.0 and main trees. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 22:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:31:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 06 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 06 to the xwinclip development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test06.exe.bz2 (6 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020622-0007.tar.bz2 (10 KB) Changes: 1) xevents.c, xevents.h, xwinclip.c - Add real support for COMPOUND_TEXT, TARGETS, and UTF8_STRING selection types. Grab clipboard contents in Unicode, if supported, convert to multi-byte character set, then stick the result into the appropriate target. This allows Japanese text to be transferred via xwinclip. Other eastern languages (Korean, Chinese, etc.) may also work. (Matsuzaki Kensuke) 2) xwinclip.c - Add a UnicodeSupport function to check if we have Unicode support or not. Currently this is done by just checking if we are on an NT-based platform or not. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 22:34:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:34:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. This is a synchronization with all the fixes that have been applied through Server Test Series - Test 60. These fixes are listed below: 1) InitOutput.c, XWin.man, win.h, winwndproc.c - Add the -lesspointer command line parameter which causes Cygwin/XFree86 to hide the Windows mouse cursor when the mouse is over any Cygwin/XFree86 window (whether activated or not). (Stuart Adamson) 2) win.h, xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf - Stop building RANDR and disable Cygwin/XFree86's LAYER support. These two extensions were causing KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to not display. RENDER is still enabled. (Harold Hunt) 3) xc/programs/Xserver/os/osinit.c - Don't close the stdin, stdout, stderr file handles on Cygwin. We are no longer a command-line application so stdin, stdout, and stderr point to our first three file handles, rather than to their usual locations. This keeps the log file from being closed when you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin.exe'. (Stuart Adamson) 4) winwndproc.c - Call TrackMouseEvent to setup tracking for the WM_MOUSELEAVE message. When we see a WM_MOUSELEAVE message we show the cursor if we are hiding it. This will prevent cursors from disappearing when using the -lesspointer parameter. (Harold Hunt) 5) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold Hunt) 6) wincreatwnd.c - Remove a seemingly erroneous return from winCreateBoundingWindowFullScreen when we are using the Shadow GDI engine. This return was before we called UpdateWindow and BringWindowToTop. This seems to have snuck in at some point during merging of my local 4.2.0 and main trees. (Harold Hunt) -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 22:38:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:38:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 06 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This one needs a thorough testing, it may or may not be stable. I'm not fully aware of how all the new function calls operator, so I was unable to convince myself that everything is being done correctly. Sometime in the next two months I'll do what I always do, which is to get out my X books and read the source code until I understand it again. At that point I'll correct some of the "what are we doing here?" comments and try to make the code easily understandable and modifiable. Until then, test away, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:31 AM > To: cygx; cygxannounce > Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 06 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows > clipboard integration) > > > Links: > > I just posted Test 06 to the xwinclip development page: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ > > xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the > sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network > (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the > pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the > desired filename in the links below, then download from your > closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). > > xwinclip binary, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test06.exe.bz2 (6 KB) > > Server source, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020622-0007.tar.bz2 > (10 > KB) > > > Changes: > > 1) xevents.c, xevents.h, xwinclip.c - Add real support for > COMPOUND_TEXT, TARGETS, and UTF8_STRING selection types. Grab > clipboard contents in Unicode, if supported, convert to multi-byte > character set, then stick the result into the appropriate target. > This allows Japanese text to be transferred via xwinclip. Other > eastern languages (Korean, Chinese, etc.) may also work. (Matsuzaki > Kensuke) > > 2) xwinclip.c - Add a UnicodeSupport function to check if we have > Unicode support or not. Currently this is done by just checking if we > are on an NT-based platform or not. (Harold Hunt) > > > Enjoy, > > Harold > From nwourms@yahoo.com Sat Jun 22 05:36:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 06 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020622123604.25753.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> > 2) xwinclip.c - Add a UnicodeSupport function to check if we have > Unicode support or not. Currently this is done by just checking if we > are on an NT-based platform or not. (Harold Hunt) > Harold, I found this on MSDN, and wonder if it might be of use for Unicode support on 95/98/ME for Xwinclip. The API for this layer is described at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win9x/unilayer_4wj7.asp The actual redistributable can be downloaded at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=30039 The actual lib is is in the platform SDK. Any thoughts on this? Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 22 15:37:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 15:37:00 -0000 Subject: test 60 did not fix the kde 3.0 icon problem for me In-Reply-To: <000001c21a1e$21872040$070210ac@LAPDANCE> Message-ID: Barry, > I have just upgrade my FreeBSD system to 4.6 that includes KDE 3.0. > I use cygwin to XDCMP from a WIndows XP system to the FreeBSD system. > > The icons on the desktop do not appear. I saw your change log for test 60 > and installed it on a Windows XP system. But this did not fix the > problem. Is there something more I need to do, or information I > can collect > to help fix the problem? First things first: you've got to reply to the cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com mailing list, not to me directly. That being said, you need to re-read the change log for Test 60. I've posted it below for your convenience: ====================================================================== 1) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold Hunt) ====================================================================== Let me recap. 1) RENDER was disabled in Test 58. 2) I *thought* RENDER was reenabled in Test 59 but, due to a mistake on my part, the build did not actually include RENDER. 3) Test 59 fixed the KDE 3.0 icon problem, but it did not actually have RENDER included, so you couldn't use aa fonts. 4) Test 60 really reenabled the RENDER extension. The RENDER extension is causing the KDE 3.0 icon problem. 5) You expected Test 60 to fix the KDE 3.0 icon problem? Harold From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sat Jun 22 16:22:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 16:22:00 -0000 Subject: test 60 did not fix the kde 3.0 icon problem for me In-Reply-To: References: <000001c21a1e$21872040$070210ac@LAPDANCE> Message-ID: <20020622232211.GB2448@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 06:37:26 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > 1) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER > extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now > reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the > display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth > of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and > RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the > server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus > making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold > Hunt) Harold, When this happens, can you tell me what dwBPP and dwDepth are set to ? Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Jun 23 11:44:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:44:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: <1024671428.6742.103.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Message-ID: On 21 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > 'xhost +' seems to take a long time and has no effect. Trying indirect > XDMCP with another remote machine logs the following on the remote: Wgat do you mean with "indirect XDMCP"? Did you start the server with XWin -indirect login.server.name? > Xlib: connection to "myhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: myhost:0 The server wants the correct cookie which was set via XDMCP. On the X-Terminal the cookie should be set. try "xauth list $DISPLAY" On any other machine you have to set it manually via "xauth add" or use ssh -X to pass the cookie to the remote machine. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From jehan@bravobrava.com Sun Jun 23 17:18:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:18:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] systray icon Message-ID: <3D166531.4030501@bravobrava.com> Hello everybody, Here is another patch which adds the "-systray" option. With this option on, instead of adding buttons to the taskbar, it adds icons to the notification area (a.k.a. systray). To work, there must be a "X.ico" (see attachment) in the same directory than XWin.exe Left click on the icon shows the window if it was hidden, hide it otherwise. Right click displays the system menu (there isn't one in fullscreen) Notes: - I added a file (winsystray.c) so "make depend" is in order. - The patch also changes the title to include the screen number. To get the screen number, I'm searching the g_ScreenInfo array. I'm sure there must be a better way to get this number (search for "HACK", there are 3 places). - The option doesn't work well in fullscreen mode. For some reason, when one click on the systray icon, the application isn't activated (doesn't switch to fullscreen, no WM_ACTIVATEAPP received) but the application still captures the mouse event, it's as if the desktop doesn't respond anymore. For those who try and/or want to fix it (I don't have the beginning of an idea for that so help is welcome), to recover from the "freeze", open the start menu with the "Windows" key, then click outside the menu. - I fixed a couple typos (CYGDEGUG and missing '\n' for "-lesspointer" usage) - X.ico would be better off added as a resource to the application instead of an external file (or both if we want to allow customization). Can we do that with cygwin? - An improvment would be to add the screen number to the icon itself. It would be better than waiting for the tooltip. - I would like to change the left click behavior. I want it to put the window to the foreground if it was not (hidden behind another window), hide it otherwise. However, when one click on the systray, the systray become the foreground window. Does someone know how to get the handle of the previous foreground window? Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan Bing > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 8:18 PM > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: [PATCH] systray icon > > > Hello everybody, > > Here is another patch which adds the "-systray" option. With this option > on, instead of adding buttons to the taskbar, it adds icons to the > notification area (a.k.a. systray). > To work, there must be a "X.ico" (see attachment) in the same directory > than XWin.exe > > Left click on the icon shows the window if it was hidden, hide it > otherwise. > Right click displays the system menu (there isn't one in fullscreen) > > Notes: > - I added a file (winsystray.c) so "make depend" is in order. > - The patch also changes the title to include the screen number. To > get the screen number, I'm searching the g_ScreenInfo array. I'm sure > there must be a better way to get this number (search for "HACK", there > are 3 places). > - The option doesn't work well in fullscreen mode. For some reason, > when one click on the systray icon, the application isn't activated > (doesn't switch to fullscreen, no WM_ACTIVATEAPP received) but the > application still captures the mouse event, it's as if the desktop > doesn't respond anymore. For those who try and/or want to fix it (I > don't have the beginning of an idea for that so help is welcome), to > recover from the "freeze", open the start menu with the "Windows" key, > then click outside the menu. > - I fixed a couple typos (CYGDEGUG and missing '\n' for > "-lesspointer" usage) > - X.ico would be better off added as a resource to the application > instead of an external file (or both if we want to allow customization). > Can we do that with cygwin? > - An improvment would be to add the screen number to the icon > itself. It would be better than waiting for the tooltip. > - I would like to change the left click behavior. I want it to put > the window to the foreground if it was not (hidden behind another > window), hide it otherwise. However, when one click on the systray, the > systray become the foreground window. Does someone know how to get the > handle of the previous foreground window? > > Jehan > From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de Sun Jun 23 23:25:00 2002 From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:25:00 -0000 Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start References: Message-ID: <3D16BB62.6090108@visicon-online.de> Hi Harold. That is funny - although my machines both start, these are the log entries from my NT4 (SP6) and my Win98 machine. The NT one uses ShadowDD, the Win98 machine uses ShadowDDNL! Both machines use the "standard" startx script. The only thing I changed is -fullscreen. Logs follow. Regards, Uwe --------------------------------------------------------- NT4-Log: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1600 h 1200 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowDD () - Not changing video mode winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning --------------------------------------------------------- Win98-Log: ---------- ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2048 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning --------------------------------------------------------- Harold Hunt wrote: > Lionel, > > Is there any particular reason why you're using the Shadow DirectDraw engine > instead of the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine? Are you passing a > `-engine 2' parameter? > > You're platform, NT/2000, should allow you to use ShadowDDNL if you have NT > 4.0 SP3+. > > What's going on here? > > Harold > From sb@dod.no Mon Jun 24 04:09:00 2002 From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 04:09:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> <1024187301.797.53.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <87lm959bmc.fsf@home.lan> >>>>> Tim Thomson : > On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 02:30, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >> Strangely enough, I was planning to start work on project again >> this month, and perhaps even this weekend, with my first step being >> to do the script to configure XDMCP access on a 'standard' linux >> distribution. > Hehe, finding a "standard" linux distrib could be fun :) "Typical" might be a better term. I know from experience that both RedHat 7.2, and debian Woody/Testing, comes with XDMCP against remote machines turned off. > Do you mean a script to enable an xdm type server for accepting > remote connections? This would be a great idea! Yup. :-) > Kind of tricky though, with xdm, kdm, and gdm all doing this, but > using different locations, and ach distribution probably puts the > config files in different locations as well :) Yup. :-/ From lains@caramail.com Mon Jun 24 06:37:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 06:37:00 -0000 Subject: Re[4] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024925824012736@caramail.com> Hi, Like Uwe, I haven't added any extra parameter to XWin.exe (I suppose that's what you meant), I'm using either the standard startx or startxwin.sh, but I have tried to run XWin.exe directly from a shell as well, and this was without any parameter. To be honest, I'm not too familiar with Direct Draw. I'm running NT4.0 with SP5, but I have no idea why the installed Direct Draw on my machine is not the ShadowDDNL. Is there somewhere I could dowload this from, or is it part of WinNT's package and, somehow, the technical support in my company would install the Shadow DirectDraw engine on corporate machines. Do you know how I can find out more about the setup for my machine as far as DD is concerned, and how to install a different engine if needed? Many thanks for your help, Lionel From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Lionel Ains" Subject: RE: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start Lionel, Is there any particular reason why you're using the Shadow DirectDraw engine instead of the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine? Are you passing a `-engine 2' parameter? You're platform, NT/2000, should allow you to use ShadowDDNL if you have NT 4.0 SP3+. What's going on here? Harold ______________________________________________________ Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com From nickthompson@agere.com Mon Jun 24 07:36:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:36:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1024929414.6742.121.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Exactly. If I use -indirect I can't even make local connections to the X server - they just seem to hang. Becaue of this I can't do a 'xhost +' to allow connection from a remote process. So it seems I have to get the cookie correct. Unfortunately, your explaination lost me a little. Do I have to generate a cookie, or should a cookie have been sent as part of the XDMCP connection? Why would it work fine on Win95/98 and not Win2k? Seems to be and FAQ on Win2k this one, but I can't find an answer. Thanks, Nick. On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 17:57, Alexander Gottwald wrote: On 21 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > 'xhost +' seems to take a long time and has no effect. Trying indirect > XDMCP with another remote machine logs the following on the remote: Wgat do you mean with "indirect XDMCP"? Did you start the server with XWin -indirect login.server.name? > Xlib: connection to "myhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: myhost:0 The server wants the correct cookie which was set via XDMCP. On the X-Terminal the cookie should be set. try "xauth list $DISPLAY" On any other machine you have to set it manually via "xauth add" or use ssh -X to pass the cookie to the remote machine. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 24 08:01:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:01:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: <1024929414.6742.121.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Message-ID: On 24 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > Exactly. If I use -indirect I can't even make local connections to the X > server - they just seem to hang. This is the normal behaviour. After using xdmcp, you can only connect from the remote machine. >Becaue of this I can't do a 'xhost +' > to allow connection from a remote process. You can run xhost + from the remote session >So it seems I have to get the > cookie correct. Unfortunately, your explaination lost me a little. Do I > have to generate a cookie, The cookie is generated by xdm. After you logged into your linux, sunos, or whatever unix you use, you already have the cookie in the unix session. Try "xauth list $DISPLAY" from a shell in the unix session. To connect from the windows host, set the cookie: "xauth add " >or should a cookie have been sent as part of the XDMCP connection? it is created by xdm (the login manager) and only know on the remote machine and by your xserver. None of the local xclients know this cookie and can connect. >Why would it work fine on Win95/98 and not Win2k? There should be no difference between 9x and NT bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nickthompson@agere.com Mon Jun 24 09:06:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:06:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1024934779.6742.152.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Hi Ago, Thanks for your help and sorry to bug you some more - I think I'm missing something here. I have a ~5 remote Sun Boxes on which I'd like to pick the least busy and run some X clients. I'm sitting at a Win2k box (mywinhost) on which I type 'Xwin.exe -indirect mysunhost'. The X server starts up on mywinhost and on mysunhost it attempts to run an xdm chooser to list the available suns that support XDMCP sessions. It fails to connect to my Win2k server to display this (Works fine if I try the same on Win98): Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 So I don't even get to choose a machine to login to. This make it difficult to get any information from the remote sun, especially X info for a display I have not connected to yet. I can't "generate" a key as I have to be connected to the X server to do that. I can "add" a made up key, but I assume I would have to be root to do that, since I've not been able to tell the Sun who I am yet. I want users to be able to do this without my help though. Seems to me that something is broken in my Win2k install as this works like a charm on 98. Did I already mention that ;-) Thanks again, Nick. On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 16:01, Alexander Gottwald wrote: On 24 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: >So it seems I have to get the > cookie correct. Unfortunately, your explaination lost me a little. Do I > have to generate a cookie, The cookie is generated by xdm. After you logged into your linux, sunos, or whatever unix you use, you already have the cookie in the unix session. Try "xauth list $DISPLAY" from a shell in the unix session. To connect from the windows host, set the cookie: "xauth add " >or should a cookie have been sent as part of the XDMCP connection? it is created by xdm (the login manager) and only know on the remote machine and by your xserver. None of the local xclients know this cookie and can connect. >Why would it work fine on Win95/98 and not Win2k? There should be no difference between 9x and NT From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 09:09:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:09:00 -0000 Subject: [New Package]: x2x-1.27-1 Message-ID: Announcing the first release of a new package to the Cygwin distribution: x2x. The usefulness of this utility will become apparent to anyone with a PC side-by-side with an *ix workstation. Simply bring up an XWindows session on each machine, run x2x on the PC, and use your PC's mouse and keyboard to control your *ix workstation's display. Works better and is cheaper than a KVM (Keyboard/Video/Mouse) switch. It also works much like a multi-headed X session. To install/update this package, point your favorite browser to the Cygwin homepage (http://cygwin.com/) and click the "Install Cygwin NOW" link. Once running setup, look for the "x2x" package in the "XFree86" section. Please direct any questions and/or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list (mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com). _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 24 09:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:51:00 -0000 Subject: Re[4] XWin.exe doesn't start In-Reply-To: <1024925824012736@caramail.com> Message-ID: Lionel, > Like Uwe, I haven't added any extra parameter to XWin.exe > (I suppose that's what you meant), I'm using either the > standard startx or startxwin.sh, but I have tried to run > XWin.exe directly from a shell as well, and this was > without any parameter. Oops. I got confused. The decision about whether to use the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine versus the Shadow DirectDraw engine is based upon whether you have DirectDraw 4 or higher (which enables Non-Locking). If you have DirectDraw 3 or lower then you don't get Non-Locking. I got messed up and thought it depended upon whether you've got an NT-based platform or not. DirectX has stagnated at version 3 for NT 4.0, if I recall correctly (this version is installed with SP3, I believe). There were some rumblings, back before Windows 2000 was released, that a new version of DirectX would be included in SP6 or SP7, but SP6 didn't include a new version and I haven't heard any further information about SP7 (though I haven't looked for any such information). Hope that clears things up. Everything is normal on your end with respect to command line parameters. Harold From cygxforever@hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 10:04:00 2002 From: cygxforever@hotmail.com (CygX Forever) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:04:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 full screen mode exit Message-ID: Hi, My XWin.exe line reads: start /B XWin :0 -from TOSHI -query mylinux -depth 16 -fullscreen OK. So I press to see Windows' lower taskbar. But, how can I do a normal exit out of Cygwin/XFree86 without terminating Cygwin command prompt window? Thanks, EW _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 24 10:10:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:10:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: <1024934779.6742.152.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Message-ID: On 24 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > It fails > to connect to my Win2k server to display this (Works fine if I try the > same on Win98): please try "Xwin -indirect sunip -from windowsip" > Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 > > So I don't even get to choose a machine to login to. This make it > difficult to get any information from the remote sun, especially X info > for a display I have not connected to yet. does "Xwin -query sunip" work? > I can't "generate" a key as I have to be connected to the X server to do > that. I can "add" a made up key, but I assume I would have to be root to > do that, since I've not been able to tell the Sun who I am yet. I want > users to be able to do this without my help though. The thing with xauth list/add does only work after the xdm session has been created. You fail earlier :( > Seems to me that something is broken in my Win2k install as this works > like a charm on 98. Did I already mention that ;-) Hm, strange. This should not happen :( bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 24 10:13:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:13:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 full screen mode exit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, CygX Forever wrote: > Hi, > > My XWin.exe line reads: > > start /B XWin :0 -from TOSHI -query mylinux -depth 16 -fullscreen > > OK. So I press to see Windows' lower taskbar. But, > how can I do a normal exit out of Cygwin/XFree86 without terminating > Cygwin command prompt window? or with -unixkill: bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From hal_rottenberg@hp.com Mon Jun 24 12:13:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@hp.com (ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:13:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to work fine. I will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my startwin.bat file) then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run command, either nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit for any sort of logs but haven't found anything so far. The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: start /b XWin -unixkill run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash run wmaker What did I do wrong?? Hal Rottenberg | Email: hal_rottenberg@hp.com Technical Support Engineer | Jabber: hal_rottenberg@jabber.hp.com http://www.hp.com/security | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 HEWLETT-PACKARD From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Jun 24 12:47:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:47:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020624194720.38507.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> what appears in /tmp/XWin.log ? --- "ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)" a ??crit??: > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps > seem to work fine. I > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open > (from my startwin.bat file) > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use > the run command, either > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked > around a bit for any sort > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very > simple: > > start /b XWin -unixkill > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow > -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > run wmaker > > What did I do wrong?? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 24 12:49:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:49:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: <200206241949.g5OJn4N45116@pilot06.cl.msu.edu> Hal, Why don't you try starting XWin without the '/B'. The '/B' is no longer necessary because XWin.exe should start as a Windows application, thus it should give the command line back immediately. Thus part of your problem might be that your xterm is starting too soon. Throw a 'sleep 5' in after your 'start XWin' line. As a further test, remove the 'run' from the 'run xterm' command line. That will allow xterm to dump any errors to the console (it will prevent wmaker from starting though). You could also just change 'run xterm' to 'start /B xterm', which would put xterm in the background but still print its messages to the launching console. Let us know what happens, Harold "ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)" said: > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to work fine. I > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my startwin.bat file) > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run command, either > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit for any sort > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: > > start /b XWin -unixkill > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > run wmaker > > What did I do wrong?? > > Hal Rottenberg | Email: hal_rottenberg@hp.com > Technical Support Engineer | Jabber: hal_rottenberg@jabber.hp.com > http://www.hp.com/security | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 > HEWLETT-PACKARD > > From Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com Mon Jun 24 23:00:00 2002 From: Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com (Eduard Luhtonen) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:00:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: <0153D24A4DD6D311BC630004AC4CEDAF605B6C@FIN001> I have same problem on my Win2000 machine and other problem is I can't start KDE at all. It crashes into memory vialation exception while xinit.exe starting. > > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to > work fine. I > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my > startwin.bat file) > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run > command, either > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit > for any sort > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: > > start /b XWin -unixkill > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > run wmaker From Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com Mon Jun 24 23:11:00 2002 From: Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com (Eduard Luhtonen) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:11:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: <0153D24A4DD6D311BC630004AC4CEDAF605B6D@FIN001> My apologies, for being frantic. I forgot to test my latest xfree installation. I've installed older cygwin by with new xserver XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 and XTerm work fine. So problem isn't in xserv but somewhere in other cygwin package. I will test next KDE. Problem solving: downgrade latest cygwin updates (you can check from cygwin.log file what you have upgraded last time), test xterm. If xterm works updrade only xserv and test after that again. If you want to upgrade other packages, do it one by one and test after every update, to find which one cause problem. > I have same problem on my Win2000 machine and other problem > is I can't start > KDE at all. It crashes into memory vialation exception while xinit.exe > starting. > > > > > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to > > work fine. I > > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my > > startwin.bat file) > > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run > > command, either > > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit > > for any sort > > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: > > > > start /b XWin -unixkill > > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > /usr/bin/bash > > run wmaker > From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Tue Jun 25 01:42:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 01:42:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: Hello kind souls, I've installed the latest Cygwin & XFree86 ; the Cygwin utilities & shells themselves run fine, as does the XFree86 X-server - that is, the twm window manager starts up alright, but when the first (or any thereafter) xterm window announces its position and I click to accept, it vanishes again instantly. After some digging around I found the '-hold' option, and when I use this I can see that before refusing any further interaction, the xterm window displays the message "setuid failed: Permission denied". This happens only for xterm's that I try to open from my own machine; when I do an "xhost +", and open an xterm on another machine with display to my machine, it works ok. I did set my CYGWIN env. variable to "ntsec ntea", chown'ed xterm.exe to 'Administrator' and chgrp'ed it to 'Administrators' (my own account is 'fputte', not a local one but a domain account), and did a "chmod ugo+sx xterm.exe" but all that didn't help either. I'm probably overlooking something, but I have read the XFree FAQ, I've searched the mailing list archives and did a Google-search, but nothing seems relevant. Any advice ? rgds, Florimon van Putte PS: My config: HP Vectra PIII/500Mhz 128 Mb, NT 4/SP6 System Developer, CMG Telecom (a division of CMG Noordwest-Nederland B.V.) Graadt van Roggenweg 350 (Hojel Center D, Begane grond) 3531 AH Utrecht P.O. Box 8013 3503 RA Utrecht Cell: +31 (0)654 636 046 Tel.: +31 (0)30 233 9561 Fax: +31 (0)30 233 9555 From colin.harrison@virgin.net Tue Jun 25 02:59:00 2002 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (root) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:59:00 -0000 Subject: Broken local xterm Message-ID: <200206250958.g5P9wxe02084@chamonix.straightrunning.com> Hi Probably already known? xterm not working (for me!) on latest cygwin release (1.3.11 cygwin1.dll) from local shell or .bat. OK... stuff like xeyes work and nothing reported in logs!! When I open xterm from a 'remote' machine (e.g. ssh shell.PuTTY) works OK. Temporarily fixed by reverting cywin1.dll (all latest XFree86 stuff installed i.e. 4.2.0.7 xserv etc). Colin From keller@ebi.ac.uk Tue Jun 25 03:20:00 2002 From: keller@ebi.ac.uk (Peter Keller) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 03:20:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" References: Message-ID: <3D18425E.DA8D352F@ebi.ac.uk> > Hi, I'm getting the same for xterm. My Cygwin / XFree86 installation from about three months ago was running fine, but when I upgraded it yesterday I get the same problem, at least when running as a domain user. Xterm works when I run it as the local administrator though. I also have problems with xcalc (window is filled with the "0" button), and xedit (displays the message "Error: Shell widget fileMenu has zero width and/or height" and doesn't start). This is both as domain user and local administrator This happens with both XFree86 and StaNet X-Win32 as X servers. Is there a problem with the client utilities build? Regards, Peter. From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Tue Jun 25 03:42:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 03:42:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" In-Reply-To: <3D18425E.DA8D352F@ebi.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000401c21c34$f36ab910$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > > Hi, > > I'm getting the same for xterm. My Cygwin / XFree86 installation from about > three > months ago was running fine, but when I upgraded it yesterday I get the same > problem, > at least when running as a domain user. Xterm works when I run it as the local > administrator though. > > I also have problems with xcalc (window is filled with the "0" button), and > xedit > (displays the message "Error: Shell widget fileMenu has zero width and/or > height" > and doesn't start). This is both as domain user and local administrator > > This happens with both XFree86 and StaNet X-Win32 as X servers. Is there a > problem > with the client utilities build? > This is caused by a stricter uid/gid handling in cygwin 1.3.11. I've stumbled about it and Corinna Vinschen told me to make sure, that for all user, who could own files, which you like to access has to be a corresponding entry in /etc/passwd. See http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-06/msg01198.html for more informations. From jbertran@cirsa.com Tue Jun 25 06:25:00 2002 From: jbertran@cirsa.com (Joan Bertran) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 06:25:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin XFree86 4.2.0-7 works with old HP-UX 9 vue Message-ID: I haven't tried it since 4.2.0-2 but the new release works fine with the old HP stations as well as linux. (The releases 4.1.0 and 4.2.0-0 didn't resize/move windows when dragging the mouse) And the "-nodecoration" parameter is great! Thanks. From colin.harrison@virgin.net Tue Jun 25 07:15:00 2002 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (root) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 07:15:00 -0000 Subject: Re Broken local xterm Message-ID: <200206251414.g5PEEwL02327@chamonix.straightrunning.com> Hi Remade /etc/passwd then OK. Thanks. Colin From Senthil.Sankaran@geind.GE.com Tue Jun 25 08:31:00 2002 From: Senthil.Sankaran@geind.GE.com (Sankaran, Senthil K (Indsys)) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:31:00 -0000 Subject: Debugging with Cygwin Message-ID: <05C613689F01D611AC820002A54177C001BACCE5@GIAHYDMSX2.SGE.INDSYS.GE.COM> Hi, We have installed cygwin and we were using it for just compilation for over a month. We just went ahead with linking and making the exe. We could make the executable, but when we try to run the exe , We are getting a segmentation fault(core dump).We tried to invoke the debugger to investigate further, Once the debugger is invoked it gets us to the assembly code and it is pointing to the main function. We could not do any further debugging to locate the problem( though we understand this is because of incorrect use of pointers, memory leaks etc), as we get a signal dialog and a OK click again gets us back to main. Appreciate if you can guide me on this issue. Please let me know if you require any more details Thanks > Senthil > > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jun 25 08:42:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:42:00 -0000 Subject: Debugging with Cygwin In-Reply-To: <05C613689F01D611AC820002A54177C001BACCE5@GIAHYDMSX2.SGE.INDSYS.GE.COM> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Sankaran, Senthil K (Indsys) wrote: > further, Once the debugger is invoked it gets us to the assembly code and it > is pointing to the main function. We could not do any further debugging to You have to compile the program with debug information. gcc has the option -g for this- bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 25 09:06:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:06:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles with 1.3.11? Try a snapshot. Message-ID: <20020625160635.GA11798@redhat.com> A couple of problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as many problems as possible first. Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above web page into a temporary directory. 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 3) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 4) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf -- Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions. Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ . From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 25 09:12:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles with 1.3.11? Try a snapshot. In-Reply-To: <20020625160635.GA11798@redhat.com> References: <20020625160635.GA11798@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020625161217.GB31059@redhat.com> On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:06:35PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >A couple of problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so >please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. > >I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as >many problems as possible first. > >Snapshot installation instructions: > >To install a snapshot: > > 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above > web page into a temporary directory. > > 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 > > 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). > > 3) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf Sigh. > 4) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > >Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path >name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., >"copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you >can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf From keller@ebi.ac.uk Tue Jun 25 09:44:00 2002 From: keller@ebi.ac.uk (Peter Keller) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" References: <3D18425E.DA8D352F@ebi.ac.uk> <000401c21c34$f36ab910$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <3D189E44.BAC48A4F@ebi.ac.uk> Ralf Habacker wrote: > > This is caused by a stricter uid/gid handling in cygwin 1.3.11. I've stumbled > about it and Corinna Vinschen told me to make sure, that for all user, who could > own files, which you like to access has to be a corresponding entry in > /etc/passwd. > > See http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-06/msg01198.html for more informations. Thanks: after fixing my /etc/passwd, it works for me. BUT, I don't use ntsec, which is why I had never read the docs about it too closely. This stricter uid/gid stuff affects non-ntsec use as well: perhaps the user manual could be updated to reflect this? Regards, Peter. P.S. xcalc and xedit are still broken. Maybe a Motif/Lesstif problem? Anyway, these are not the most important of utilities. From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Tue Jun 25 13:35:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 13:35:00 -0000 Subject: Bug Report: XWin not repainting... Message-ID: I have a ThinkPad laptop which has a built-in LCD screen as well as a 15-pin connector for an outboard monitor. To switch between the 2, I hit Fn-F7 on the keyboard. I've recently discovered that if I do so with the XWin X server visible, it turns to a blank white screen. I need to do something that forces a repaint (like minimize/restore) to get back to something I can see. I looked in the XWin.log file and see what looks like some kind of BitBlt error. Here's the whole log up until I hit Fn-F7 the first time. ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1024 h 767 r 1024 l 0 b 767t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 3072 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface_Blt failed: 887601c2 -2005532222 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 25 17:45:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 17:45:00 -0000 Subject: If you are having troubles with 1.3.11, please try a snapshot Message-ID: <20020626004455.GI5480@redhat.com> A couple of problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as many problems as possible first. Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above web page into a temporary directory. 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 3) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 4) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf -- Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions. Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ . From dockeen@mchsi.com Tue Jun 25 18:12:00 2002 From: dockeen@mchsi.com (Dockeen) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my XP laptop. When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know what that idiot is babbling about. Wayne Keen From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 25 22:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:07:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? In-Reply-To: <3D108C83.3030508@cesi.it> Message-ID: Massimo, Unfortunately I know nothing about Xt and apparently no one else on the list does either, or at least they haven't run into your same problem. We haven't made any Cygwin-specific changes to the Xt code in XFree86 so it wouldn't have been by our doing that something is now broken. Granted, there may have been changes to Xt that required a missing change on our part, but then we wouldn't know if that was the case, would we? :) You can always do whatever I do when I've got a problem: 1) Scour any documentation that I've got, reading and re-reading it until I know for a fact that what I have programmed is 100% correct. 2) Scour google.com for any additional information I can find. 3) Take a look at the source code for the library, in your case Xt. 4) Do a debug build of Cygwin/XFree86 (following the instructions in the Contributor's Guide) and run my application in gdb so I can step through until I see the crash. 5) Try to rewrite my program to be "safer". That is, try to do things that the documentation doesn't explicitly mention but that will probably not hurt. For example, in Windows you might throw in a call to UpdateWindow following your first call to ShowWindow if you were having problems where your program didn't paint on launch; some documentation may leave out this detail that calling UpdateWindow is logically necessary. 6) Repeat 1 through 5 until the problem is corrected. Know this: a sample program working on Linux but failing on Cygwin doesn't mean that the sample program is correctly implemented. In my experience I have seen Cygwin react more catastrophically to simple programming errors, whereas Linux seems to be pretty tolerant of mistakes. I have no idea why this is the case, but that just seems to be the pattern. This is kind of like saying "my program works just fine with no optimization, but with -O2 is segfaults"... sometimes a simple change in the underlying layers can make a fault more evident. Good luck, Harold P.S. The Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide is here: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ciccotelli Massimo > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:52 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XtManageChild broken??? > > > Hi all, > I have a port of a Linux application on Cygwin which worked fine using > XFree version 4.1.0. > > Executing the code after recompiling with version 4.2.0 it crashes > (segmentation fault) when I try to open a menu. > > I have tried to identify the problem (unfortunately I am not an X11 > expert); it seems due to a call of > XtManageChild !!! > > Digging around in the Internet I have found a simple example which shows > the same behaviour of my application. the code is the following: > > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > > main(int argc, char *argv[]) > { > XtAppContext app; > Widget top_wid, main_w, menu_bar, info, quit; > > > /* callback for the pushbuttons. pops up dialog */ > void info_pop_up(), quit_pop_up(); > > top_wid = XtVaAppInitialize(&app, "Demos", NULL, 0, > &argc, argv, NULL, NULL); > > main_w = XtVaCreateManagedWidget("main_window", > xmMainWindowWidgetClass, top_wid, > XmNheight, 300, > XmNwidth,300, > NULL); > > menu_bar = XmCreateMenuBar(main_w, "main_list", > NULL, 0); > XtManageChild(menu_bar); > > > /* create quit widget + callback */ > > quit = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( "Quit", > xmCascadeButtonWidgetClass, menu_bar, > XmNmnemonic, 'Q', > NULL); > > /* Callback has data passed to */ > > XtAddCallback(quit, XmNactivateCallback, quit_pop_up, > "Are you sure you want to quit?"); > > XtRealizeWidget(top_wid); > XtAppMainLoop(app); > } > > void > quit_pop_up(Widget cascade_button, char *text, > XmPushButtonCallbackStruct *cbs) > > { > Widget dialog; > XmString xm_string; > void quit_activate(); > Arg args[1]; > > /* label the dialog */ > xm_string = XmStringCreateSimple(text); > XtSetArg(args[0], XmNmessageString, xm_string); > > > /* Create the WarningDialog */ > dialog = XmCreateWarningDialog(cascade_button, "quit", > args, 1); > > XmStringFree(xm_string); > > XtAddCallback(dialog, XmNokCallback, quit_activate, > NULL); > > XtManageChild(dialog); // This call crashes the application. > XtPopup(XtParent(dialog), XtGrabNone); > } > > > /* callback routines for dialogs */ > > void > quit_activate(Widget dialog) > { > printf("Quit Ok was pressed.\n"); > exit(0); > } > > This code compiles and run fine in my Linux (RH7.1) box. > > Is it a bug??? > Am I missing something?? > > I'm using cygwin 1.3.10 on Win98/Win NT 4 sp6 > > Thanks a lot, > Massimo > From chris@itindependent.nl Wed Jun 26 00:56:00 2002 From: chris@itindependent.nl (Chris Jonker) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 00:56:00 -0000 Subject: rsync Message-ID: I am looking for a version of RSYN to run on Windows 98. It does not seem to be part of the Cygwin package (anymore?). Where can I find a version of Rsync for windows? Thanks, Chris From Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com Wed Jun 26 01:21:00 2002 From: Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com (Eduard Luhtonen) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:21:00 -0000 Subject: rsync Message-ID: <0153D24A4DD6D311BC630004AC4CEDAF605B70@FIN001> Yes, is still a part of cygwin package. Do you use cygwin setup.exe? With this one I can still download rsync. You can find it also from http://www.cygwin.com/packages/rsync/ edu > I am looking for a version of RSYN to run on Windows 98. > It does not seem to be part of the Cygwin package (anymore?). > > Where can I find a version of Rsync for windows? > > Thanks, > > Chris > From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Wed Jun 26 01:50:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:50:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: Ok, I've done mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d >> /etc/passwd mkgroup -l -u > /etc/group mkgroup -d -u >> /etc/group but I keep having xterm die on me with "setuid failed: Permission denied" ?? rgds, Florimon van Putte From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Wed Jun 26 03:10:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 03:10:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: Let me guess - you have logged in as a domain user, but your home directory is /home/Administrator (or whatever the local administrator is named in dutch...) It seems that cygwin is capable of seeing all domain users and when running 'whoami' returns 'Administrator' instead of the domain user. I would guess that you will have to create an account in /etc/passwd manually - the question is just how... - but I will guess that you will have to find the SID of you domain user and add it to /etc/passwd. Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen Florimon van Putte @cygwin.com on 26-06-2002 10:50:35 Please respond to Florimon van Putte Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com To: Cygwin-Xfree cc: Subject: RE: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Ok, I've done mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d >> /etc/passwd mkgroup -l -u > /etc/group mkgroup -d -u >> /etc/group but I keep having xterm die on me with "setuid failed: Permission denied" ?? rgds, Florimon van Putte From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Wed Jun 26 05:14:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 05:14:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: > Let me guess - you have logged in as a domain user, but your > home directory > is /home/Administrator (or whatever the local administrator > is named in > dutch...) Thank god I'm using an English NT installation :)) Anyway - argh ! It works after all - after running the mkpasswd and mkgroup, I hadn't exited my login shell. When I did and restarted it, I landed into /home/fputte instead of /home/Administrator and now it works. Thanks for the help ! rgds, Florimon > > It seems that cygwin is capable of seeing all domain users > and when running > 'whoami' returns 'Administrator' instead of the domain user. > > I would guess that you will have to create an account in /etc/passwd > manually - the question is just how... - but I will guess > that you will > have to find the SID of you domain user and add it to /etc/passwd. > > Med venlig hilsen / Regards > Franz Wolfhagen > > > Florimon van Putte @cygwin.com on > 26-06-2002 > 10:50:35 > > Please respond to Florimon van Putte > > Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > To: Cygwin-Xfree > cc: > Subject: RE: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission > denied" > > > > > Ok, I've done > > mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd > mkpasswd -d >> /etc/passwd > mkgroup -l -u > /etc/group > mkgroup -d -u >> /etc/group > > but I keep having xterm die on me with "setuid failed: > Permission denied" > ?? > > rgds, > Florimon van Putte > > > > From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Wed Jun 26 10:00:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:00:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B4077949E5@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> FWIW, I "cut-n-paste"d the sample code, compiled and executed with no problems other than a warning: TestXt.c:26: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast I am using the latest (4.2.0) development environment, LessTif 0.93.18-3 -- all from the setup.exe installation. Good luck. -d. --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 From cgf-cygwin@cygwin.com Wed Jun 26 12:14:00 2002 From: cgf-cygwin@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: Your problems may be solved in the latest cygwin snapshot! Try it out! In-Reply-To: <3D1A0F8E.7CF53876@sfwmd.gov> References: <3D1A0F8E.7CF53876@sfwmd.gov> Message-ID: <20020626191419.GA1956@redhat.com> A few problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as many problems as possible first. Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above web page into a temporary directory. 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 4) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 5) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf -- Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions. Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ . From MBosticky@opcom.com.au Wed Jun 26 18:14:00 2002 From: MBosticky@opcom.com.au (Martin Bosticky) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:14:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: Dear XFree crew, can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't help. Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose but the bash shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 Martin. >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my >XP laptop. > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know >what that idiot is babbling about. > >Wayne Keen > Martin Bosticky Software Engineer Opcom Office +61 7 3371 1311 Fax +61 7 3371 1257 Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au Web www.opcom.com.au From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 26 18:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:22:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > Dear XFree crew, > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't help. > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > but the bash > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > Martin. > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > >XP laptop. > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > Martin Bosticky > Software Engineer > Opcom > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > Web www.opcom.com.au > > From MBosticky@opcom.com.au Wed Jun 26 18:26:00 2002 From: MBosticky@opcom.com.au (Martin Bosticky) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:26:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: Harold, I am doing as you have said. I have now also downloaded the previous version of XFree and that seems to be working fine on the same machine. So I have no clue but perhaps the latest release has something funny with the configuration? I would not know how to tell. Martin. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 11:22 To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > Dear XFree crew, > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't help. > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > but the bash > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > Martin. > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > >XP laptop. > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > Martin Bosticky > Software Engineer > Opcom > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > Web www.opcom.com.au > > From BradeyH@construx.com Wed Jun 26 20:30:00 2002 From: BradeyH@construx.com (Bradey Honsinger) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons Message-ID: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EBC83E6F@gypsy.construx.com> I upgraded to Test60 and noticed that dragging the mouse to select text or move a window had gotten very slow--I had to hold down the mouse button and count "one thousand one" before moving it. After a bit of investigation, I found that removing the '-emulate3buttons 500' argument from my XWin command line made dragging work fine again. The problem was probably more pronounced for me than for most others because my timeout was so high--the default is 50ms, and I was using 500ms. I back-tracked through the test series and found that the behaviour started with Test56--Test55 was fine. I'm guessing it had something to do with this changelog entry for Test56: - InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was fixed. If that's the case, then this problem was just a latent bug in my XWin startup script, not a problem with XWin. In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix--I just wanted to let anyone else who encountered the problem know what the workaround was. - Bradey From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 26 21:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:00:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons In-Reply-To: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EBC83E6F@gypsy.construx.com> Message-ID: Bradey, Thanks for notifying other users of this. I appreciate it when people send these sorts of things directly to the list, like you've just done. (No, he didn't send it to me privately first, I just wanted to reward good behavior instead of waiting to complain about someone's bad behavior.) Hmm... I'm sure Alexander Gottwald and I didn't have a 0.5 second timeout in mind when we wrote the emulate 3 buttons option. There may or may not be something that can be done to accomodate for this. At the very least, we could set some sort of upper-bound on the emulation timeout and we could warn the user when they try to exceed this value. That would at least prevent people from doing silly things that weren't planned for. I'll take a look at this when I get a chance. Thanks again, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Bradey Honsinger > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:30 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons > > > I upgraded to Test60 and noticed that dragging the mouse to select text or > move a window had gotten very slow--I had to hold down the mouse > button and > count "one thousand one" before moving it. After a bit of investigation, I > found that removing the '-emulate3buttons 500' argument from my > XWin command > line made dragging work fine again. The problem was probably more > pronounced > for me than for most others because my timeout was so high--the default is > 50ms, and I was using 500ms. > > I back-tracked through the test series and found that the > behaviour started > with Test56--Test55 was fine. I'm guessing it had something to do > with this > changelog entry for Test56: > > - InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead > of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button > mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. > (Stuart Adamson) > > I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the > timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was fixed. If that's > the case, then this problem was just a latent bug in my XWin > startup script, > not a problem with XWin. > > In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix--I just wanted to let > anyone else who encountered the problem know what the workaround was. > > - Bradey From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 26 22:06:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:06:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 61 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 61 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'test' package: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-8 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test61.exe.bz2 (1070 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020627-0020.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) General - Fix the KDE 3.0 alpha-channel icon bug that appeared only when running Windows at 32 bits per pixel. Many more details below. (Alan Hourihane) 2) General - pScreenInfo->dwDepth used to refer to the depth that the user specified with the -depth parameter or the depth returned by GetDeviceCaps (BITSPIXEL) and pScreenInfo->dwBPP used to refer to the bits of color per pixel. For example, running Windows at 32 bit color would mean dwDepth == 32 and dwBPP == 24. It turns out that this was exactly backwards from what it should be. The dwDepth variable new refers to the color ``depth'' of a pixel, that is, the number of bits that make up the color specification for a pixel. For example, a 32 bit pixel uses 24 bits to represent color plus an 8 bit pad for alignment purposes and a 16 bit pixel can use 15 or 16 bits to represent color. The dwBPP variable now refers to the bits used to store each pixel, that is, the number of bits that each pixel occupies in the framebuffer memory. For example, a 32 bit pixel occupies 32 bits in the framebuffer memory while a 24 bit pixel occupies 24 bits in the framebuffer memory (the former pixels are 32 bit aligned, while the latter pixels are called ``packed'' because the pixels are not aligned and any given pixel may actually be stored in two separate 32 bit units). The meaning of dwDepth and dwBPP was corrected throughout the source code, touching files such as wincmap.c, winscrinit.c, InitOutput.c, winshadddnl.c, winshaddd.c, winshadgdi.c, winnativegdi.c, winpfbdd.c, and win.h. Also, we modify the depth 24 pixmap format at runtime to use 24 bits per pixel, instead of 32, when Windows is running in 24 bit color; this matches the Windows pixel format when running in 24 bit color. The end result of all of this is that we now no longer report that we have a depth 32 visual, as depth 32 visuals do not exist. What we were previously calling a depth 32 visual is actually a depth 24 visual with a different bits per pixel. Advertising a proper visual when running Windows at 32 bit color corrects the problem of KDE 3.0 not displaying icons or text with alpha channels. Alan did the magical part of discovering the underlying problem, I did the grunt work of cleaning the code and making sure that all of the corner cases were still handled. (Alan Hourihane, Harold Hunt) 3) winshaddd.c, winshadddnl.c, winshadgdi.c, win.h, winscrinit.c - Remove the essentially unused dwStride and dwStrideBytes variables from the ScreenInfoRec. (Harold Hunt) 4) winshaddd.c, winshadddnl.c - In winBltExposedRegionsShadowDD* () we try to restore the primary DirectDraw surface up to WIN_REGAIN_SURFACE_RETRIES (currently 1) times when a bit block transfer of the exposed regions fails. This corrects the case where switching a notebook from its internal display to an external display (or vice versa) would cause the Cygwin/XFree86 window to blank and fail to redraw itself until the Cygwin/XFree86 window was minimized and then restored. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 26 22:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:35:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've posted the patch against the current CVS tree for changes up through Test 61 (and a few minutes afterwards), for those of you following the development of Cygwin/XFree86: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test61.diff.bz2 (21 KiB) Here's a couple questions: 1) Should I start posting CVS diff files with each test release? If there are developers out there interested in this I can do it; if there aren't, I might as well not bother. 2) Are the change logs too wordy? I've been told that when speaking I tend to offer a flood of information. Should I post shorter change logs, or should I post a summary at the top of the change log? I have been trying to make short descriptions of bug fixes appear at the top of the change logs so that people can see that a bug has been fixed without reading the in-depth description of what had to be changed to fix the bug. Is it useful to put those short descriptions at the top? 3) How do you like the first six hours I've had to work on Cygwin/XFree86 without any homework to slow me down, for the first time in 18 months? :) Oh yeah, Test61 will need some series testing by users with hardware that does ``packed'' 24 bit color pixels (Windows will let you select 24 bit color rather than 32 bit color when such hardware is present). I haven't got a single machine that can do packed 24 bit pixels so I haven't been able to test at 24 bit color. Once these graphics changes have stabilized I'll start looking at Jehan's systray icon patch. Thanks for testing, Harold From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Thu Jun 27 00:10:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:10:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: FWIW: you can also, from the cygwin prompt, run the startxwin.sh script > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:22 AM > To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin > prompt, you are > supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer > or you can > launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a > Cygwin command > prompt). > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I > tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and > it didn't help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the > Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically > incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > > From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Thu Jun 27 00:18:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:18:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: Martin Bosticky wrote: > Harold, > > I am doing as you have said. I have now also downloaded the > previous version > of XFree and that seems to be working fine on the same machine. > > So I have no clue but perhaps the latest release has > something funny with > the configuration? I would not know how to tell. I've had the same problem with the disappearing xterm. When you run xterm with the -hold option, you'll see what's going on: right before freezing it prints "setuid failed: Permission denied" . As some other posters pointed out in the past couple of days, with the latest cygwin release security has been tightened a bit. For things like xterm to work, an entry for the user that you're logged in as, has to be present in /etc/passwd. The problem is that, when you install Cygwin from scratch, at post-install time, it only creates entries in /etc/passwd for all the local accounts. If you're logged in as a (non-local) domain user, you'll have to add an entry for it yourself to /etc/passwd. It's easy to do so, all I had to do to get my own 'fputte' account added was (from a cygwin prompt) : "mkpasswd -d -u fputte >> /etc/passwd" . After this, exit Cygwin, restart it, and you should be able to run xterm. rgds, Florimon > > Martin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 11:22 > To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin > prompt, you are > supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer > or you can > launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a > Cygwin command > prompt). > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I > tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and > it didn't help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the > Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically > incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > > From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 00:51:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:51:00 -0000 Subject: solaris XDMCP session freezing up Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to get a solaris box logon screen to run via xwin using the following command: xwin -query remotehostName -from localhostName -fp tcp/remotehostName:7100 The problem is that after the solaris hourglass cursor appears the session seems to freeze up. I know the FAQ says this won't work on 24 bit depth, but I've also tried 16 bit and 256 Colors (is that 8 bit?) and had no more luck. Is there anything else I can try? Thanks for your help, JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Thu Jun 27 00:58:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:58:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 Message-ID: Your long changelogs are doing a very nice educational reading for me at least - I appreciate them very much... Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 01:56:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:56:00 -0000 Subject: solaris XDMCP session freezing up Message-ID: I forgot to mention that this works on one Solaris box I'm trying but not on the other. They are both Solaris version 2.8. >Hi, > >I'm trying to get a solaris box logon screen to run via xwin using the >following command: > >xwin -query remotehostName -from localhostName -fp tcp/remotehostName:7100 > >The problem is that after the solaris hourglass cursor appears the session >seems to freeze up. I know the FAQ says this won't work on 24 bit depth, >but >I've also tried 16 bit and 256 Colors (is that 8 bit?) and had no more >luck. > >Is there anything else I can try? > >Thanks for your help, > >JS. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 27 03:00:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 03:00:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A431@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the > timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was > fixed. Worse than that - XWin was ignoring the parameter and also the default 50ms and setting the timeout to 1 millisecond. > In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix We could ErrorF("emulate3buttons timeout >100ms. Is this really what you want?"); but how many people would read /tmp/XWin.log to see that this is a problem? Stuart From dct-linuq@iquebec.com Thu Jun 27 05:11:00 2002 From: dct-linuq@iquebec.com (dct-linuq@iquebec.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Message-ID: <200206271209.3750@th00.opsion.fr> Hello all, thanks for listening, I have a problem starting/working in Xfree under cygwin. I installed Xfree manually some time ago and figured that it would be easier maintaining it under the setup.exe by cygwin. I uninstalled X and proceeded to install it from scratch with the cygwin utility setup.exe (selecting the base package). Unfortunately, the new installation did not work properly. Unpon seeing that, I unsinstalled the package unsing the standard setup.exe utility and removed the /etc/X11 and the /usr/X11R6 branches (rm -Rf) to make sure no old config files would remain. I reinstalled the X base package with setup.exe and it still does not work. I have tried to start X using the startx and the startxwin.sh methods without complete success. They result in different behaviours however... 1- Starting X with startxwin.sh from bash in /dev/conin When starting X with the command startxwin.sh I manage to get X running with the main window with the aquamarine4 background. I even get the mouse shape for to indicate the position of a new window (xterm). When I try to position the window (which is called bash or unnamed), the mouse switch to the traditional X but no xterm appears. I can get the the twm menu with most functionalities working (show iconmgr, hide, move , delete, etc.) but no xterm. I get the mouse changing shape but no window appears. Just in case, I join the /tmp/Xwin.log file at the end. 2- Starting X with startx from bash in /dev/conin Using startx command leaves me hanging for a few second. Then ne main window appears followed by the clock that is specified in the .xinitrc file in ~/. X stop and the main window disapears with some error messages : waiting for X server to shut down XIO: fatal IO error 104 on X server ":0.0" after 279 requests <278 known processed> with 2 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 110 on X server ":0.0" after 58 requests <49 known processed> with 0 events remaining. (the number of requests varies from time to time) I provide at the end the ~/.xinitrc. The startxwin.sh is the standard one that comes with the package. I have added a few lines in the ~/.xinitrc that were working in the old manual installation of X. I also provide information that may be useful like the version of packages. I would truely appreciate any help to find and solve this problem. Any ideas or thoughts would be most welcome. ================================================== Daniel Chamberland-Tremblay ================================================== FILES : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ copy of /tmp/XWin.log ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 960 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 932 1280 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 932 1280 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 907 r 1274 l 0 b 907 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ copy of ~/.xinitrx #!/bin/sh # $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $ userresources=$HOME/.Xresources usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap.cf2 sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap # merge in defaults and keymaps if [ -f $sysresources ]; then xrdb -merge $sysresources fi if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then xmodmap $sysmodmap fi if [ -f $userresources ]; then xrdb -merge $userresources fi if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then xmodmap $usermodmap fi # start some nice programs twm & xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & #xterm -geometry 80x30+494+51 -bg black -fg white & #xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 -bg black -fg white & #exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -bg black -fg white -name login INFO : xterm is persent in /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm $PATH is /usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive /c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/lgc/o rant/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/nls/ENGLISH:????? ???????????? Part of the cygcheck -s output : Found: F:\unix\bin\bash.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\cat.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\cpp.exe Found: F:\unix\usr\local\bin\find.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\find.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\gcc.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\gdb.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\ld.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\ls.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\make.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\sh.exe 58k 2002/05/07 F:\unix\bin\cygbz2-1.dll 111k 2002/06/13 F:\unix\bin\cygcurl-2.dll 45k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygform5.dll 35k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygform6.dll 19k 2002/02/20 F:\unix\bin\cyggdbm.dll 17k 2001/06/28 F:\unix\bin\cyghistory4.dll 20k 2002/01/13 F:\unix\bin\cyghistory5.dll 929k 2002/06/24 F:\unix\bin\cygiconv-2.dll 22k 2001/12/13 F:\unix\bin\cygintl-1.dll 23k 2002/06/24 F:\unix\bin\cygintl-2.dll 21k 2001/06/20 F:\unix\bin\cygintl.dll 81k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygitcl30.dll 35k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygitk30.dll 119k 2002/02/09 F:\unix\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll 26k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygmenu5.dll 20k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygmenu6.dll 156k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses++5.dll 175k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses++6.dll 226k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses5.dll 202k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses6.dll 15k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygpanel5.dll 12k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygpanel6.dll 40k 2001/11/21 F:\unix\bin\cygpcre.dll 39k 2001/11/21 F:\unix\bin\cygpcreposix.dll 171k 2002/05/07 F:\unix\bin\cygpng10.dll 22k 2002/06/09 F:\unix\bin\cygpopt-0.dll 108k 2001/06/28 F:\unix\bin\cygreadline4.dll 121k 2002/01/13 F:\unix\bin\cygreadline5.dll 66k 2001/11/20 F:\unix\bin\cygregex.dll 390k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtcl80.dll 5k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtclpip80.dll 10k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtclreg80.dll 253k 2002/02/10 F:\unix\bin\cygtiff3.dll 623k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtk80.dll 50k 2002/03/12 F:\unix\bin\cygz.dll 874k 2002/06/24 F:\unix\bin\cygwin1.dll Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.11 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 53 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Sun Jun 23 22:31:15 EDT 2002 CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-11-3 Shared id: cygwin1S3 Cygwin Package Information Package Version XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 _update-info-dir 00011-1 ash 20020131-1 bash 2.05a-3 bc 1.06-1 binutils 20011002-1 bzip2 1.0.2-2 clear 1.0-1 cpio 2.4.2 cron 3.0.1-6 crypt 1.0-1 ctags 5.2-1 curl 7.9.8-1 cvs 1.11.0-1 cygrunsrv 0.95-1 cygutils 1.1.1-1 cygwin 1.3.11-3 diff 1.0-1 diffutils 2.8.1-1 fetchmail 5.9.12-1 file 3.37-1 fileutils 4.1-1 findutils 4.1.7-4 gawk 3.0.4-1 gcc 2.95.3-5 gdb 20010428-3 gdbm 1.8.0-4 gettext 0.11.2-2 ghostscript 6.51-4 grep 2.5-1 groff 1.17.2-1 gzip 1.3.2-1 inetutils 1.3.2-17 jpeg 6b-7 less 374-1 libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 libiconv2 1.8-2 libintl 0.10.38-3 libintl1 0.10.40-1 libintl2 0.11.2-2 libncurses5 5.2-1 libncurses6 5.2-8 libpng10 1.0.13-3 libpopt0 1.6.4-4 libreadline4 4.1-2 libreadline5 4.2a-1 login 1.4-3 lynx 2.8.4-1 make 3.79.1-7 man 1.5g-2 mktemp 1.4-1 mutt 1.2.5i-6 ncftp 3.1.3-1 ncurses 5.2-8 newlib-man 20001118-1 patch 2.5-3 pcre 3.7-1 perl 5.6.1-2 popt 1.6.4-4 postgresql 7.2.1-2 procmail 3.22-6 python 2.2.1-1 rcs 5.7-3 readline 4.2a-1 regex 4.4-2 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shutdown 1.2-2 ssmtp 2.38.7-3 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 texinfo 4.2-3 textutils 2.0.21-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.5-1 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 whois 4.5.17-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 05:33:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:33:00 -0000 Subject: Next step in XFREE debug for New-B Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C98@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> I was told I was doing it wrong, i.e. "You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold" To keep you updated, when I did it correctly, the same result occurs, i.e. the main window appears, acqua-marine background, with a small iconized window labeled bash. The main window is labeled Cygwin/XFree86. The cursor has the pattern of something designating the corner of something. If I click on the icon labeled bash, it disappears. If I left click in the main window, I get a menu which includes xterm. If I click on that, I get an icon labeled untitled, if I click on that, or click anywhere, it disappears. The suiggestion was made last night to try the previous version of XFree, which I will do. I do wish to note that I have the new version of XFree on my home computer, running Win98, and this does not occur. This does not occur even if I incorrectly call the batch file from the Cygwin prompt. Will keep the list updated, and I appreciate the patience and help. Wayne From nickthompson@agere.com Thu Jun 27 05:46:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:46:00 -0000 Subject: Next step in XFREE debug for New-B In-Reply-To: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C98@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> References: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C98@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> Message-ID: <1025182008.3741.5.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Isn't this just another case of xterm not working in recent releases (permission denied). Seems to be something to do with /etc/passwd not having an entry for you user name and only seems to be a problem on NT/Win2k (& XP?) which have better security. Look back at the last few days posts. I've half heartedly tried these fixes, which don't seem to work for me but YMMV. Nick. On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 13:30, Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG wrote: I was told I was doing it wrong, i.e. "You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold" To keep you updated, when I did it correctly, the same result occurs, i.e. the main window appears, acqua-marine background, with a small iconized window labeled bash. The main window is labeled Cygwin/XFree86. The cursor has the pattern of something designating the corner of something. If I click on the icon labeled bash, it disappears. If I left click in the main window, I get a menu which includes xterm. If I click on that, I get an icon labeled untitled, if I click on that, or click anywhere, it disappears. The suiggestion was made last night to try the previous version of XFree, which I will do. I do wish to note that I have the new version of XFree on my home computer, running Win98, and this does not occur. This does not occur even if I incorrectly call the batch file from the Cygwin prompt. Will keep the list updated, and I appreciate the patience and help. Wayne From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 06:30:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:30:00 -0000 Subject: Continuing debug Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C9B@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> OK, I tried dropping to the previous version of Cygwin's xfree. Same problem. Next, I tried Florimon's advice. I was slightly confused, so I may have screwed things up: (1) First, I assumed 'fputte' was some account name that was personal to that setup. So, I tried to see who I am through....whoami. It told me administrator, so I used that in the suggested command, modified for Administrator, i.e. mkpasswd -d -u Administrator >> /etc/passwd Cygwin informed me that it could not find that user. (2) I tried running through startxwin.sh, same problem. Wayne From bg@genetics.agrsci.dk Thu Jun 27 06:31:00 2002 From: bg@genetics.agrsci.dk (Bernt Guldbrandtsen) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:31:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020627151855.03545e20@genetics.agrsci.dk> Hello all, I would like to add some information to this. It is possible to lauch Xfree under Windows 2000 5.00.2195, SP 2 Danish version with cygwin 1.3.11-3 using xwin& twm&. However if I then try to launch an xterm I get the placement cursor. xterm dies without any error messages when I then click in order to place the xterm window. Downgrading to cygwin 1.3.10 removes the problem. Hence, it appears that the problem is caused by xterm in combination with cygwin 1.3.11-3. Best regards, Bernt Guldbrandtsen ----------------------------------------8<---------------------------------- Cygwin Package Information Last downloaded files to: C:\Documents and Settings\bgu\Dokumenter\cygwin Last downloaded files from: ftp://ftp.nas.nasa.gov/mirrors/cygwin.com/pub/cygwin Package Version XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 _update-info-dir 00011-1 ash 20020131-1 autoconf 2.53a-1 autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 autoconf-stable 2.13-4 automake 1.6.1-1 automake-devel 1.6.1-3 automake-stable 1.4p5-5 bash 2.05a-3 bc 1.06-1 binutils 20011002-1 bison 1.35-1 byacc 1.9-1 bzip2 1.0.2-2 ccache 1.9-1 clear 1.0-1 cpio 2.4.2 cron 3.0.1-6 crypt 1.0-1 ctags 5.2-1 curl 7.9.8-1 cvs 1.11.0-1 cygrunsrv 0.95-1 cygutils 1.1.1-1 cygwin 1.3.11-3 cygwin-doc 1.0-1 db2 2.7.7-3 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5.2-8 newlib-man 20001118-1 opengl 1.1.0-6 openssh 3.4p1-1 openssl 0.9.6d-1 openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 patch 2.5-3 pcre 3.7-1 perl 5.6.1-2 pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 popt 1.6.4-4 python 2.2.1-1 rcs 5.7-3 readline 4.2a-1 regex 4.4-2 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shellutils 0.0 shutdown 1.2-2 swig 1.3.11-1 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 tcsh 6.11.00-4 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 texinfo 4.2-3 textutils 2.0.21-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 ttcp 19980512-1 ucl 1.01-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.5-1 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 xpm 4.0.0-2 xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 zsh 4.0.4-1 Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Thu Jun 27 15:30:33 2002 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Path: C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\share\emacs\bin C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin c:\texmf\miktex\bin C:\cygwin\windows\command C:\cygwin\windows C:\cygwin\windows\system c:\gstools\gs7.00\bin SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 WinDir: C:\WINNT CYGWIN = `tty notitle' C_INCLUDE_PATH = `/usr/local/include:/usr/include' HOME = `c:\bernt' LIBRARY_PATH = `/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib' MAKE_MODE = `UNIX' PWD = `/bernt' USER = `bernt' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\bgu\Application Data' BIBINPUTS = `/texmf/bibtex/bib/:/localtexmf/bibtex/bib/' BIBSTYLES = `/texmf/bibtex/bst/:/localtexmf/bibtex/bst/' CDPATH = `.:~:~/sci:~/foredrag' COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Programmer\F$(All(Bes filer' COMPUTERNAME = `HAG-I001' COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH = `/usr/local/include:/usr/include' CWFOLDER = `C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior' DISPLAY = `127.0.0.1:0.0' HOMEDRIVE = `C:' HOMEPATH = `\' INDEXSTYLE = `/texmf/makeindex//:localtexmf/makeindex//' LM_LICENSE_FILE = `C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\license.dat' LOGONSERVER = `\\FOULUM-DC3' LPRPRINTER = `raw' LPRSERVER = `130.226.241.119' MANPATH = `/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/X11R6/man' MWCWINX86INCLUDES = `+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\MSL;+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\Win32-X86 Support;C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\MSL\MSL_C\MSL_Common\Include;C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\Win32-X86 Support\Headers\Win32 SDK;' MWWINX86LIBRARIES = `+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\MSL;+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\Win32-x86 Support;' MWWINX86LIBRARYFILES = `MSL_C_x86.lib;MSL_Extras_x86.lib;MSL_Runtime_x86.lib;MSL_C++_x86.lib;gdi32.lib;user32.lib;kernel32.lib;' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OLDPWD = `/usr/bin' OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' OS = `Windows_NT' PAGER = `less' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.tcl' PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel' PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `15' PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0007' PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Programmer' PROMPT = `$P$G' PS1 = `\w$ ' PS2 = `> ' SHELL = `/usr/bin/bash' SHLVL = `1' SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\bgu\LOKALE~1\Temp' TERM = `cygwin' USERDOMAIN = `DJF' USERNAME = `BGU' USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\bgu' WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' Use `-r' to scan registry a: fd N/A N/A c: hd FAT32 17985Mb 43% CP UN IBM_PRELOAD d: cd CDFS 0Mb -2147483548% CS Audio CD e: net NTFS 173650Mb 99% CP CS UN PA FC h: net NTFS 347310Mb 69% CP CS UN PA FC i: net NTFS 347310Mb 69% CP CS UN PA FC j: net NTFS 49874Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC Data1 k: net NTFS 69457Mb 96% CP CS UN PA FC Data3 p: net NTFS 347310Mb 69% CP CS UN PA FC t: net NTFS 49874Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC Data1 u: net NTFS 49874Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC Data1 c:\bernt /bernt user textmode \cygwin /cygwin user binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive C:/cygwin / system binmode c:\localtexmf /localtexmf system binmode c:\texmf /texmf system binmode C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts system binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Found: \bin\bash.exe Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe hides \bin\bash.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe Found: \bin\sh.exe Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe hides \bin\sh.exe 111k 2002/06/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/13 16:58 81k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:25 35k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:25 390k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:24 5k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 10k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:24 623k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:25 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 4:05 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 20:24 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 6:54 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 8:33 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 20:53 45k 2002/02/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 0:59 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 6:19 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 10:28 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:28 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:29 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:17 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 2:05 17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 5:34 108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 5:34 20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 2:27 121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 2:27 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 4:45 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:24 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:19 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:24 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 4:22 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 1:46 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 17:58 326k 2002/06/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/19 0:12 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 14:24 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 14:24 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 23:15 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 23:15 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 15:44 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 9:34 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 7:45 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:49 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:50 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 5:38 54k 2002/01/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 2:07 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 4:31 Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.11 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 53 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Sun Jun 23 22:31:15 EDT 2002 CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-11-3 Shared id: cygwin1S3 2057k 2002/06/02 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygMagick-5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygMagick-5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/2 23:42 2393k 2002/06/02 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygMagick++-5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygMagick++-5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/2 23:39 21k 2002/01/15 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 19:09 714k 2001/11/07 \bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/6 19:12 Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.4 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 47 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Tue Nov 6 13:12:58 EST 2001 CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-4 Shared id: cygwin1S3 Use -h to see help about each section From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 07:23:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:23:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C9E@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> OK, I changed strategy a little bit. I started working down the startx path. I moved the .xinitrc to my home and ran startx from the bash prompt. It then complained of no .XAuthority file. I googled a bit, and found a reference to an empty file being OK. So I created one. This led to some progress, the window comes up, with the clock even, but when I click on anything it bombs back out with a message about fatal IO error 113. startxwin.bat is still behaving the same... Wayne From cygxforever@hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 07:32:00 2002 From: cygxforever@hotmail.com (CygX Forever) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:32:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: I know that for a fact since early this year but I launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt anyway. The reason is that if I double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer, that batch file will *not* clean up my /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 file the next time, which means I cannot run it again subsequently. I'm on Windows XP. Apparently, my WinXP user priviledges are not the same as Cygwin priviledges even if the loginid are the same. How do I fix it so that I can launch from Windows Explorer? Thanks ewu >From: "Harold Hunt" >To: "Martin Bosticky" , >Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:22:19 -0400 > >You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are >supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can >launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command >prompt). > >Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't >help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Thu Jun 27 07:37:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:37:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020627143730.GB5126@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 08:36:43AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote: >hello- >I have installed the XFree86 package for cygwin. how to I start up X? >i have tried 'xterm' 'startx' and i get nothing. I found an xterm >binary but when I start it up i get an error about setting the display. >thanks, >brian The Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. I've redirected this message there. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 07:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:39:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows Message-ID: <200206271438.g5REcqd93552@pilot08.cl.msu.edu> First, wrong mailing list. Use cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Second, RTFM: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Harold "Henning, Brian" said: > hello- > I have installed the XFree86 package for cygwin. how to I start up X? i have > tried 'xterm' 'startx' and i get nothing. I found an xterm binary but when > I start it up i get an error about setting the display. > thanks, > brian > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 27 07:43:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:43:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A432@ldnisp14.evolution.net> http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Stuart On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 08:36:43AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote: >hello- >I have installed the XFree86 package for cygwin. how to I start up X? >i have tried 'xterm' 'startx' and i get nothing. I found an xterm >binary but when I start it up i get an error about setting the display. >thanks, >brian The Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. I've redirected this message there. cgf Evolution is the investment banking and venture capital industry's first choice for practical advice on strategy, business process and the application of advanced technology. Evolution Tel: +44 (0) 20 7664 6640 Peninsular House Fax: +44 (0) 20 7664 6641 30-36 Monument Street London EC3R 8LJ URL: http://www.evolution.net United Kingdom ______________________________________________________ The information in this Internet e-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Evolution or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact Evolution, London, +44 (0) 20 7664 6640 _____________________________________________________ From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 07:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:50:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] Message-ID: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Wayne, [Please be careful to only reply to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, I am only sending this to cygwin@cygwin.com so that the Cygwin folks know what is going on.] Non-xterm clients work fine. xterm does not work. The base problem here is that xterm calls getuid () to find out what the current process's user id is. Then it later calls setuid (), passing the same value that was returned by getuid (). For some reason, regardless of whether you have run 'mkpasswd -d -u user_name >> /etc/passwd', the call to setuid () fails with Permission Denied. This is not something that the Cygwin/XFree86 folks changed, rather it was something that was changed in Cygwin proper (think cygwin1.dll). From our perspective, and probably from the perspective of the Cygwin developers, cygwin1.dll is broken when Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't work right. Thus, I'm going to guess that the Cygwin folks are working on this and that you need to start testing the latest cygwin1.dll snapshots to help them, and us, figure out when the problem is fixed. I've got a machine now that has the same problem so I will be testing snapshots as well, once a compile job finishes. Here is some information on installing a snapshot release of cygwin1.dll: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00383.html Until further notice, consider your bug acknowledged and in a state of being repared. Feel free to post your results with the latest snapshot to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, but don't expect any further information until the problem is fixed. Harold Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG said: > OK, I changed strategy a little bit. I started working down the startx path. > I moved the .xinitrc to my home and ran > startx from the bash prompt. It then complained of no .XAuthority file. I > googled a bit, and found a reference to > an empty file being OK. So I created one. This led to some progress, the > window comes up, with the clock even, > but when I click on anything it bombs back out with a message about fatal IO > error 113. > > startxwin.bat is still behaving the same... > > Wayne > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 07:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] Message-ID: <200206271458.g5REwFW105358@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Just a quick note: This problem is not fixed in the 20020626 cygwin1.dll snapshot. Harold From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 08:08:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:08:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list pl ease comment] Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04CA0@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> This is a problem, possibly in addition to my sub-moronic idiocy? Appreciate the update sir, Wayne Keen -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:58 AM To: Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Re: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] Just a quick note: This problem is not fixed in the 20020626 cygwin1.dll snapshot. Harold From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 27 08:10:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:10:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] In-Reply-To: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020627151016.GE5126@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:50:28AM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >[Please be careful to only reply to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, I am only sending >this to cygwin@cygwin.com so that the Cygwin folks know what is going on.] > >Non-xterm clients work fine. xterm does not work. > >The base problem here is that xterm calls getuid () to find out what the >current process's user id is. Then it later calls setuid (), passing the same >value that was returned by getuid (). For some reason, regardless of whether >you have run 'mkpasswd -d -u user_name >> /etc/passwd', the call to setuid () >fails with Permission Denied. > >This is not something that the Cygwin/XFree86 folks changed, rather it was >something that was changed in Cygwin proper (think cygwin1.dll). From our >perspective, and probably from the perspective of the Cygwin developers, >cygwin1.dll is broken when Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't work right. > >Thus, I'm going to guess that the Cygwin folks are working on this and that >you need to start testing the latest cygwin1.dll snapshots to help them, and >us, figure out when the problem is fixed. I've got a machine now that has the >same problem so I will be testing snapshots as well, once a compile job finishes. > >Here is some information on installing a snapshot release of cygwin1.dll: >http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00383.html Thanks for *trying* a snapshot, Harold, and reporting on your experiences. I guess we'll keep plugging at this. My time is very limited but I'll try to debug this X problem as soon as I have a chance. Until then if someone could 1) Try the very latest snapshot (the 2002-06-26 snapshot changed several times yesterday) and 2) post an strace from a failing xterm. It would help enormously. cgf From dct-linuq@iquebec.com Thu Jun 27 08:16:00 2002 From: dct-linuq@iquebec.com (dct-linuq@iquebec.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:16:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Message-ID: <200206271515.380c@th00.opsion.fr> Problem solved !!!, Thanks to van Putte, Wolfhagen, Habacker et al. that had already discussed the matter under a different title. Sorry for the inconvenience. A hint for those who, like me, do not know much about this stuff check for error beyond X and into xterm behaviour: 1- Step to diagnostic The new version of cygwin 1.3.11 (try cygcheck -s | grep "cygwin" to see the cygwin version) there is some change in the implementation of the security (that among other thing do not permit you to open xterm sessions). You must adjust your system consequently by defining a "real" user and not some kind of Administrator (before I was Administrateur and now daniel (my real login name)). To diagnose my problem I added the "-hold" option to the command xterm (xterm -hold &)in my startup scripts (startxwin.sh and .xinitrc). That's when I realised that it was a Permission problem and not an X problem. 2- X and xterm related problems and cygwin security To redefine users see the thread this month : -> xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" and the mkpasswd command. Basically what it does it to make a new password file with users and network information. Cygwin uses it for the login. Attention!!! Watch for big network, the file could end up very long. Here is what I did : mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d | grep "daniel" >> /etc/passwd (I knew my login name to be daniel) And voila, I am now daniel@mymachine and no longuer Administrateur@mymachine. And the best of it xterm now works (after some tweeking, read on). 3- Tweeking scripts for optimum functionning When I finally got my X working (with the steps outlined above), I had to add "-e /usr/bin/bash" to the xterm command in my startup scripts (xterm -e /usr/bin/bash &) because it could not find bash in /bin/bash (thanks to -hold option for the hint). I also added an alias to my .bashrc "alias xterm='xterm -e /usr/bin/bash'. Thanks again all, Hope this will be useful and good luck to others DCT From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Thu Jun 27 09:33:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:33:00 -0000 Subject: mkpasswd hints (was: Unable to use X session under...) Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B4077949E8@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> FYI, If you know your login id and account (and you probably do, because you use it every day), you can reduce the time and resulting passwd file size by using the correct parameters to mkpasswd: mkpasswd -u {username} -d {domainname} >> /etc/passwd E.g. if your login name is "funkyuser" and your domain is "SOMEWHERE", the command is: mkpasswd -u funkyuser -d SOMEWHERE >> /etc/passwd Note that the home directory on the created line is probably NOT on your local machine (/home/funkyuser) but the network server location your domain administrator set up for you (G:\sharedrive\funkyuser). So, you may want to edit the /etc/passwd created and change the string between the 5th and 6th colons (:) to a local path (/home/funkyuser) Cheers, -D. --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 -----Original Message----- From: dct-linuq@iquebec.com [mailto:dct-linuq@iquebec.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:16 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Problem solved !!!, Thanks to van Putte, Wolfhagen, Habacker et al. that had already discussed the matter under a different title. Sorry for the inconvenience. A hint for those who, like me, do not know much about this stuff check for error beyond X and into xterm behaviour: 1- Step to diagnostic The new version of cygwin 1.3.11 (try cygcheck -s | grep "cygwin" to see the cygwin version) there is some change in the implementation of the security (that among other thing do not permit you to open xterm sessions). You must adjust your system consequently by defining a "real" user and not some kind of Administrator (before I was Administrateur and now daniel (my real login name)). To diagnose my problem I added the "-hold" option to the command xterm (xterm -hold &)in my startup scripts (startxwin.sh and .xinitrc). That's when I realised that it was a Permission problem and not an X problem. 2- X and xterm related problems and cygwin security To redefine users see the thread this month : -> xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" and the mkpasswd command. Basically what it does it to make a new password file with users and network information. Cygwin uses it for the login. Attention!!! Watch for big network, the file could end up very long. Here is what I did : mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d | grep "daniel" >> /etc/passwd (I knew my login name to be daniel) And voila, I am now daniel@mymachine and no longuer Administrateur@mymachine. And the best of it xterm now works (after some tweeking, read on). 3- Tweeking scripts for optimum functionning When I finally got my X working (with the steps outlined above), I had to add "-e /usr/bin/bash" to the xterm command in my startup scripts (xterm -e /usr/bin/bash &) because it could not find bash in /bin/bash (thanks to -hold option for the hint). I also added an alias to my .bashrc "alias xterm='xterm -e /usr/bin/bash'. Thanks again all, Hope this will be useful and good luck to others DCT From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 27 09:41:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: <20020627151016.GE5126@redhat.com> References: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> <20020627151016.GE5126@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020627164153.GA27818@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 11:10:16AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:50:28AM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >>[Please be careful to only reply to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, I am only sending >>this to cygwin@cygwin.com so that the Cygwin folks know what is going on.] >> >>Non-xterm clients work fine. xterm does not work. >> >>The base problem here is that xterm calls getuid () to find out what the >>current process's user id is. Then it later calls setuid (), passing the same >>value that was returned by getuid (). For some reason, regardless of whether >>you have run 'mkpasswd -d -u user_name >> /etc/passwd', the call to setuid () >>fails with Permission Denied. >> >>This is not something that the Cygwin/XFree86 folks changed, rather it was >>something that was changed in Cygwin proper (think cygwin1.dll). From our >>perspective, and probably from the perspective of the Cygwin developers, >>cygwin1.dll is broken when Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't work right. >> >>Thus, I'm going to guess that the Cygwin folks are working on this and that >>you need to start testing the latest cygwin1.dll snapshots to help them, and >>us, figure out when the problem is fixed. I've got a machine now that has the >>same problem so I will be testing snapshots as well, once a compile job finishes. >> >>Here is some information on installing a snapshot release of cygwin1.dll: >>http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00383.html > >Thanks for *trying* a snapshot, Harold, and reporting on your experiences. > >I guess we'll keep plugging at this. My time is very limited but I'll >try to debug this X problem as soon as I have a chance. > >Until then if someone could 1) Try the very latest snapshot (the >2002-06-26 snapshot changed several times yesterday) and 2) post an >strace from a failing xterm. It would help enormously. FWIW, I can't duplicate this failure either with 1.3.11 or with the current snapshot. However, there were changes in the current snapshot which may fix the problem. I hope someone will be brave enough to try one. cgf Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ . 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 4) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 5) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 11:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:31:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) Message-ID: <200206271831.g5RIV0R73234@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Chris, I just (at 1430 EDT) tried: cygwin1-20020627.dll.bz2 The problem is still present. Harold From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 12:18:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: FW: xfree success! Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04CAD@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:16 PM > To: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'; 'xfree-cygwin@cygwin.com' > Subject: xfree success! > > (1) I downloaded the newest (at least a couple of hours ago) snapshot of > cygwin1.dll, yes, I renamed it and copied it over > to /bin > (2) I used some ideas on the xfree list, for shorthand, I am going to use > my_domain, my_name for my domain name and > user name, substitute your own: > mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd > mkpasswd -d my_domain | grep "my_name" >> /etc/passwd > Now, a couple of important notes here: > In the original hints, they just used -d, and I was to damn stupid to > realize I had to give a domain name after that. Then I had to remember > what it was. > I am on a large network. This took a very LONG time. I gave up and went > to a meeting, it was finished when I got back. > (3) In another classic Wayne is a moron moment, I immediately tried > /usr/X11R6/bin/startx. It did not work, because I was in the > same window I did the mkpasswd in. I closed that, opened a new one, and > it worked! > (4) Note for the startx to work, you have to have one of those .xinitrc > files in your home directory. You can copy the one from > /etc/X11/xinit to your home and start from there. You also (in theory) > need to have a file called .Xauthority, which has the kicker that it > will work if you just have an empty file by that name. Now, this file > gave me some errors early on, I tried moving it a minute ago, > and things worked without it. > > I am still working some issues with bash, but it works pretty well. > Thanks to all those who were patient with me, while I thrashed around. > As I said earlier, I am not sure what fixed my problem, some of the stuff > above may be unneccessary. I do know it is working. > > Wayne Keen > From BradeyH@construx.com Thu Jun 27 14:12:00 2002 From: BradeyH@construx.com (Bradey Honsinger) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:12:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons Message-ID: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EBC83E80@gypsy.construx.com> I think the only reason that I set the timeout so high was because it wasn't working--I vaguely remember having trouble getting the simultaneous button presses to work, which makes sense now. If the timeout was always 1ms, no wonder I had trouble! An error message in the log certainly wouldn't hurt, but I think it'll be a rare enough problem that there's probably no real need. Anyone who would read the log would probably check the list, anyway. If anything, I'd probably put a note in the documentation (Table 3-1) or the FAQ (question 3.4) to the effect of: "Note: setting the timeout too high (>100ms) will make it difficult to drag windows or select text, since XWin will wait to process the button1-down event until it's sure that it's not a button3-down event." That's all pretty obvious now that I realize what's going on, but it took me a while to figure it out. - Bradey -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adamson [mailto:stuart.adamson@evolution.net] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:00 AM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: RE: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons > I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the > timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was > fixed. Worse than that - XWin was ignoring the parameter and also the default 50ms and setting the timeout to 1 millisecond. > In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix We could ErrorF("emulate3buttons timeout >100ms. Is this really what you want?"); but how many people would read /tmp/XWin.log to see that this is a problem? Stuart From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 27 16:56:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:56:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: <200206271831.g5RIV0R73234@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206271831.g5RIV0R73234@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020627235637.GB23480@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 02:30:59PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Chris, > >I just (at 1430 EDT) tried: > >cygwin1-20020627.dll.bz2 > >The problem is still present. Just to be clear, this is just as simple as running the xserver and opening up an xterm, right? Unfortunately, that works fine for me under 1.3.11 and the snapshot. I am running on Windows XP. Don't know why that would make a difference, though. Does the log file contain any useful information, by any chance? Do you think you could do a strace -ox:\somewhere\strace.out sh startxwin.sh , bzip2 strace.out, and send it to me? It's possible that xterm will "just work" when you do that. If so, then you'll probably be able to hear my scream. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 17:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: <20020627235637.GB23480@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, > Does the log file contain any useful information, by any chance? None. Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't get an error, only xterm does. > Do you think you could do a > > strace -ox:\somewhere\strace.out sh startxwin.sh , bzip2 strace.out, > and send it to me? I'll try to tomorrow. > Just to be clear, this is just as simple as running the xserver and > opening up an xterm, right? Unfortunately, that works fine for me > under 1.3.11 and the snapshot. I am running on Windows XP. Don't > know why that would make a difference, though. This problem doesn't happen on my home Windows 2000 machine, nor does it happen on my NT Workstation 4.0 machine at work (though I haven't upgraded cygwin1.dll in a week or more). The problem only happens on a Windows 2000 machine that I use at work (which I just installed Cygwin on two days ago). Both machines at work are members of a *domain* while my home machine is not in a domain. Also, I can only logon to both machines at work as a domain user, as I have no local account and I don't have administrator priveleges to create one (and it'd blow my cover if I told them I needed a local account for debugging Cygwin/XFree86 :) Yes, this is just as simple as running Cygwin/XFree86 with an xterm. The options to xterm do not affect the outcome. The only message from xterm is if you run 'xterm -hold', which keeps the xterm window open after the command shell has exited. In this case the error message, as previously reported by others, is something like "setuid failed: Permission Denied". This message comes from line 3814 in the main () function of xterm's main.c. A link to xterm's main.c is here: http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/xterm/main.c Note: Cygwin/XFree86 hasn't updated any source files or build files since the XFree86 4.2.0 release, except for the XWin.exe source code and binary. In other words, this is obviously not something that we caused :( Thanks for any help, Harold From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 27 17:51:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:51:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: References: <20020627235637.GB23480@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020628005129.GA24327@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 08:24:55PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >Chris, > >> Does the log file contain any useful information, by any chance? > >None. Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't get an error, only xterm does. > >> Do you think you could do a >> >> strace -ox:\somewhere\strace.out sh startxwin.sh , bzip2 strace.out, >> and send it to me? > >I'll try to tomorrow. > >>Just to be clear, this is just as simple as running the xserver and >>opening up an xterm, right? Unfortunately, that works fine for me >>under 1.3.11 and the snapshot. I am running on Windows XP. Don't know >>why that would make a difference, though. > >This problem doesn't happen on my home Windows 2000 machine, nor does >it happen on my NT Workstation 4.0 machine at work (though I haven't >upgraded cygwin1.dll in a week or more). The problem only happens on a >Windows 2000 machine that I use at work (which I just installed Cygwin >on two days ago). Both machines at work are members of a *domain* >while my home machine is not in a domain. Also, I can only logon to >both machines at work as a domain user, as I have no local account and >I don't have administrator priveleges to create one (and it'd blow my >cover if I told them I needed a local account for debugging >Cygwin/XFree86 :) Hmm. If you do a: mount -f -X -b c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin /usr/X11R6/bin does the problem go away, perchance? I would expect it to. cgf From MBosticky@opcom.com.au Thu Jun 27 18:26:00 2002 From: MBosticky@opcom.com.au (Martin Bosticky) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:26:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: This has worked perfectly. Thank you very much. I am thinking it could go into the instalation instructions as I don't recall seeing it anywhere. -----Original Message----- From: Florimon van Putte [mailto:florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl] Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 17:18 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: 'MBosticky@opcom.com.au' Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question Martin Bosticky wrote: > Harold, > > I am doing as you have said. I have now also downloaded the > previous version > of XFree and that seems to be working fine on the same machine. > > So I have no clue but perhaps the latest release has > something funny with > the configuration? I would not know how to tell. I've had the same problem with the disappearing xterm. When you run xterm with the -hold option, you'll see what's going on: right before freezing it prints "setuid failed: Permission denied" . As some other posters pointed out in the past couple of days, with the latest cygwin release security has been tightened a bit. For things like xterm to work, an entry for the user that you're logged in as, has to be present in /etc/passwd. The problem is that, when you install Cygwin from scratch, at post-install time, it only creates entries in /etc/passwd for all the local accounts. If you're logged in as a (non-local) domain user, you'll have to add an entry for it yourself to /etc/passwd. It's easy to do so, all I had to do to get my own 'fputte' account added was (from a cygwin prompt) : "mkpasswd -d -u fputte >> /etc/passwd" . After this, exit Cygwin, restart it, and you should be able to run xterm. rgds, Florimon > > Martin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 11:22 > To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin > prompt, you are > supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer > or you can > launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a > Cygwin command > prompt). > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I > tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and > it didn't help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the > Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically > incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Thu Jun 27 19:14:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:14:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I second that. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Franz Wolfhagen Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:58 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 Your long changelogs are doing a very nice educational reading for me at least - I appreciate them very much... Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 19:20:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:20:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Okay, I'll stick with the current lenghty-when-necessary format. I'm glad they are helping people, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Gervais > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:14 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 > > > I second that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On > Behalf Of Franz Wolfhagen > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:58 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 > > > Your long changelogs are doing a very nice educational reading for me at > least - I appreciate them very much... > > Med venlig hilsen / Regards > Franz Wolfhagen > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 19:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:21:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I need someone with a graphics card capable of 15 bits per pixel to run Test 61 and tell us what happens. Also, run XWin.exe with 'XWin -fullscreen -depth 15' (when you are running Windows in some depth other than 15) and let us know what happens. Both of these situations are expected to not go well, but I need some specifics. Thanks for testing, Harold From ebiris@cadence.com Fri Jun 28 01:47:00 2002 From: ebiris@cadence.com (Elias Biris) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:47:00 -0000 Subject: xterm behaving oddly Message-ID: Hi, I am trying to run XFree on cygwin. Had tried in the past (2 months ago) with success. Now I got all the packages for XFree (XFree86 4.2.0(165) - as appears to be the latest in the setup screens) using the cygwin setup program and tried WindowMaker/fvwm/ION window managers. In my previous attempt with XFree I had got all the packages by hand and installed them one by one. In window managers that I tried, although they start without errors, when I try to get an xterm it just flashes by the screen and vanishes. There is no error or debug output in the Cygwin shell box where I typed startx. Has anyone seen this before? I attach a the result of cygcheck -s -v -r below Kind regards Elias Biris, Systems and Design Verification R&D Cadence Design Systems Ltd, SOC Design Centre 1 The Alba Campus TEL: +44 (0)1506595036 Livingston, EH54 7HH FAX: +44 (0)1506595959 --------- Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Fri Jun 28 09:43:26 2002 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Path: d:\atria\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\lib C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\i686-pc-cygwin . c:\programs\bin c:\programs\perl\bin C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin c:\HOME\packages\ion\bin f:\Programs\emacs\emacs-21.1\bin c:\WINDOWS c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 WinDir: C:\WINNT HOME = `c:\HOME' MAKE_MODE = `unix' PWD = `/c/HOME/install/ion-devel-20020605' TCL_LIBRARY = `c:\ruby\tcl\lib\tcl8.3' USER = `ebiris' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris\Application Data' CLEARCASE_PRIMARY_GROUP = `daemon' COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' COMPUTERNAME = `PC-EBIRIS' COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' HOMEPATH = `\' HOMESHARE = `\\svr1-livingston\users\ebiris\Private' INCLUDE = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\atl\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\mfc\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\include' JAVA_HOME = `C:\jdk1.3.1' JAVA_VERSION = `1.3.1' LIB = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\mfc\lib;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib' LOGONSERVER = `\\DC1SJGLOBAL' MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' MSDEVDIR = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OLDPWD = `/c/HOME/install' OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' OS = `Windows_NT' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.RB;.RBW' PKG_INSTALL_DIR = `c:\HOME\src\eCos-1.3.1\ebiris-install' PLUCKER_HOME = `f:\Programs\Plucker' PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel' PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0303' PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' PROMPT = `$P$G' PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 \033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] $ ' RUBY_TCL_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tcl83.dll' RUBY_TK_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tk83.dll' SCOPUS = `C:\SCOPUS32' SHELL = `/bin/bash' SHLVL = `1' SMS_LOCAL_DIR = `C:\WINNT' SYBASE = `C:\SYBASE' SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' TERM = `cygwin' TG_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' TOGETHER_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' USERDOMAIN = `GLOBAL' USERNAME = `ebiris' USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris' VIM = `/usr/share/vim' WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c (default) = `c:' flags = 0x00000002 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f (default) = `f:' flags = 0x00000002 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s (default) = `s:' flags = 0x00000002 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp (default) = `c:\tmp' flags = 0x00000002 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z (default) = `z:' flags = 0x00000002 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00 (default) = `C:' unix = `/' fbinary = 0x00000000 fsilent = 0x00000000 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu\Programs\Cygnus Solutions (default) = (unsupported type) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ (default) = `C:/cygwin' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/B (default) = `B:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c (default) = `c:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/d (default) = `d:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f (default) = `f:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/l (default) = `L:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/Q (default) = `Q:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/R (default) = `R:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s (default) = `s:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp (default) = `c:\tmp' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin (default) = `C:/cygwin/bin' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib (default) = `C:/cygwin/lib' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts (default) = `C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z (default) = `z:' flags = 0x0000000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\01 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\02 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\03 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\04 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\05 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\06 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\07 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\08 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\09 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0A HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0B HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0C HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0D HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0E HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0F HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\10 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\11 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\12 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\13 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\14 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\15 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\16 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\17 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\18 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\19 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1A HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1B HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1C HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1D a: fd N/A N/A b: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase c: hd NTFS 6000Mb 91% CP CS UN PA FC d: hd NTFS 2706Mb 81% CP CS UN PA FC e: cd N/A N/A f: net FAT 1024Mb 62% CP CS UN CIFS.HOMEDIR g: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC h: net FAT 102400Mb 85% CP CS UN projects i: net FAT 477520Mb 75% CP CS UN projects1 j: net NTFS 994Mb 59% CP CS PA stream k: net FAT 102400Mb 66% CP CS UN distiller l: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase m: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase n: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase o: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase p: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase q: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase r: unk N/A N/A s: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase t: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase u: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC w: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase x: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase y: unk N/A N/A z: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase c: /c user binmode f: /f user binmode s: /s user binmode c:\tmp /tmp user binmode z: /z user binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive C:/cygwin / system binmode B: /B system binmode c: /c system binmode d: /d system binmode f: /f system binmode L: /l system binmode Q: /Q system binmode R: /R system binmode s: /s system binmode c:\tmp /tmp system binmode C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts system binmode z: /z system binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe 125k 2001/12/18 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygaudiofile-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/14 20:09 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 7:33 54k 2002/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 1:07 6k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:23 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 111k 2002/06/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/13 15:58 326k 2002/06/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/18 23:12 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 16:58 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:28 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 3:05 306k 2002/04/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghttpd.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyghttpd.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/4/27 14:23 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:24 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 9:28 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 5:54 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 18:09 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 23:59 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 5:19 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 0:46 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:29 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:17 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 19:53 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 3:22 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 1:05 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 6:45 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 14:44 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 8:34 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 3:45 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:49 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:50 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:19 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 4:38 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 2:17 Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.11 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 53 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Sun Jun 23 21:17:11 EDT 2002 Shared id: cygwin1S3 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/14 4:13 Cygwin Package Information Last downloaded files to: G:\Utils\Cygwin\cygwin\packages Last downloaded files from: ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin Package Version WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 XFree86-jdoc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 _update-info-dir 00011-1 apache 1.3.24-5 ash 20020131-1 audiofile 0.2.1-20011218 autoconf 2.53a-1 autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 autoconf-stable 2.13-4 automake 1.6.1-1 automake-devel 1.6.1-3 automake-stable 1.4p5-5 bash 2.05a-3 bc 1.06-1 binutils 20011002-1 bison 1.35-1 byacc 1.9-1 bzip2 1.0.2-2 ccache 1.9-1 cgoban 1.9.12-1 clear 1.0-1 compface 1.4-5 cpio 2.4.2 cron 3.0.1-6 crypt 1.0-1 ctags 5.2-1 curl 7.9.8-1 cvs 1.11.0-1 cygipc 1.11-1 cygrunsrv 0.95-1 cygutils 1.1.1-1 cygwin 1.3.11-3 cygwin-doc 1.0-1 db2 2.7.7-3 dejagnu 20010117-1 diff 1.0-1 diffutils 2.8.1-1 ed 0.2-1 enscript 1.6.3-2 expat 1.95.3-2 expect 20010117-1 fetchmail 5.9.13-1 figlet 2.2-1 file 3.37-1 fileutils 4.1-1 findutils 4.1.7-4 flex 2.5.4-2 fortune 1.8-2 fvwm 2.4.7-2 gawk 3.0.4-1 gcc 2.95.3-5 gdb 20010428-3 gdbm 1.8.0-4 gettext 0.11.2-2 ghostscript 6.51-4 gnugo 3.2-1 gnupg 1.0.7-1 gperf 0.0 grep 2.5-1 groff 1.17.2-1 gsl 1.1.1-1 gzip 1.3.2-1 indent 2.2.8-1 inetutils 1.3.2-18 irc 20010101-1 jbigkit 1.2-6 jpeg 6b-7 kdelibs-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.1.2-b1 kdelibs-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2.2.2-b1 kdesupport-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.1.2-b1 keychain 1.8-1 less 374-1 lesstif 0.93.18-3 libPropList 0.10.1-3 libbz2_0 1.0.2-1 libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 libcharset1 1.8-2 libdb2 2.7.7-3 libdb2-devel 2.7.7-3 libiconv 1.8-2 libiconv2 1.8-2 libintl 0.10.38-3 libintl1 0.10.40-1 libintl2 0.11.2-2 libncurses5 5.2-1 libncurses6 5.2-8 libpng 1.2.3-1 libpng10 1.0.13-3 libpng10-devel 1.0.13-3 libpng12 1.2.3-1 libpng12-devel 1.2.3-1 libpng2 1.0.12-1 libpopt0 1.6.4-4 libreadline4 4.1-2 libreadline5 4.2a-1 libtool 20020202a-1 libtool-devel 20020502-2 libtool-stable 1.4.2-2 libxml2 2.4.17-1 libxslt 1.0.13-1 links 0.96-1 login 1.4-3 lynx 2.8.4-1 m4 0.0 make 3.79.1-7 man 1.5g-2 mingw 20010917-1 mingw-runtime 2.0-2 mktemp 1.4-1 mod_auth_mysql 1.11-1 mod_auth_ntsec 1.7-1 mod_dav 1.0.3-1.3.6-1 mod_php4 4.2.0-1 mod_ssl 2.8.8-1.3.24-1 more 2.11o-1 mt 2.0.1-1 mutt 1.2.5i-6 nano 1.0.7-1 ncftp 3.1.3-1 ncurses 5.2-8 newlib-man 20001118-1 openbox 0.99.1-3 opengl 1.1.0-6 openssh 3.4p1-1 openssl 0.9.6d-1 openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 patch 2.5-3 pcre 3.7-1 perl 5.6.1-2 pine 4.44-1 pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 popt 1.6.4-4 postgresql 7.2.1-2 procmail 3.22-6 python 2.2.1-1 qt-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 qt-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-qt-2.3.1-b2 qtdevel-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 rcs 5.7-3 readline 4.2a-1 regex 4.4-2 robots 2.0-1 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shutdown 1.2-2 squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 ssmtp 2.38.7-3 swig 1.3.11-1 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 tcsh 6.11.00-4 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 tetex-beta 20001218-4 texinfo 4.2-3 texmf-base 20000804-2 texmf-doc 20000804-2 texmf-extra 20000804-2 texmf-tiny 20000804-2 textutils 2.0.21-1 tidy 020623-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 ttcp 19980512-1 ucl 1.01-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 upx 1.21-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.5-1 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 whois 4.5.17-1 x2x 1.27-1 xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 zsh 4.0.4-1 Use -h to see help about each section From ebiris@cadence.com Fri Jun 28 01:49:00 2002 From: ebiris@cadence.com (Elias Biris) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:49:00 -0000 Subject: xterm behaving oddly Message-ID: By the way i should mention that i tried to start other programs in X, such as gvim or xfig and they all came up nicely in the X Server window. It seems that xterm is the odd one out. > -----Original Message----- > From: Elias Biris > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:48 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: xterm behaving oddly > > > Hi, > > I am trying to run XFree on cygwin. Had tried in the past (2 > months ago) with success. Now I got all the packages for > XFree (XFree86 4.2.0(165) - as appears to be the latest in > the setup screens) using the cygwin setup program and tried > WindowMaker/fvwm/ION window managers. In my previous attempt > with XFree I had got all the packages by hand and installed > them one by one. > > In window managers that I tried, although they start without > errors, when I try to get an xterm it just flashes by the > screen and vanishes. There is no error or debug output in the > Cygwin shell box where I typed startx. > > Has anyone seen this before? I attach a the result of > cygcheck -s -v -r below > > Kind regards > > Elias Biris, Systems and Design Verification R&D > Cadence Design Systems Ltd, SOC Design Centre > 1 The Alba Campus TEL: +44 (0)1506595036 > Livingston, EH54 7HH FAX: +44 (0)1506595959 > > --------- > > > Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics > Current System Time: Fri Jun 28 09:43:26 2002 > > Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 > > Path: d:\atria\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\lib > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\i686-pc-cygwin > . > c:\programs\bin > c:\programs\perl\bin > C:\cygwin\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > c:\HOME\packages\ion\bin > f:\Programs\emacs\emacs-21.1\bin > c:\WINDOWS > c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND > c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > > SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 > WinDir: C:\WINNT > > HOME = `c:\HOME' > MAKE_MODE = `unix' > PWD = `/c/HOME/install/ion-devel-20020605' > TCL_LIBRARY = `c:\ruby\tcl\lib\tcl8.3' > USER = `ebiris' > > ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' > APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris\Application Data' > CLEARCASE_PRIMARY_GROUP = `daemon' > COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' > COMPUTERNAME = `PC-EBIRIS' > COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' > HOMEPATH = `\' > HOMESHARE = `\\svr1-livingston\users\ebiris\Private' > INCLUDE = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\atl\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\mfc\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\include' > JAVA_HOME = `C:\jdk1.3.1' > JAVA_VERSION = `1.3.1' > LIB = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\mfc\lib;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib' > LOGONSERVER = `\\DC1SJGLOBAL' > MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' > MSDEVDIR = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98' > NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' > OLDPWD = `/c/HOME/install' > OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' > OS = `Windows_NT' > PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.RB;.RBW' > PKG_INSTALL_DIR = `c:\HOME\src\eCos-1.3.1\ebiris-install' > PLUCKER_HOME = `f:\Programs\Plucker' > PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' > PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel' > PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' > PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0303' > PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' > PROMPT = `$P$G' > PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 > \033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] > $ ' > RUBY_TCL_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tcl83.dll' > RUBY_TK_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tk83.dll' > SCOPUS = `C:\SCOPUS32' > SHELL = `/bin/bash' > SHLVL = `1' > SMS_LOCAL_DIR = `C:\WINNT' > SYBASE = `C:\SYBASE' > SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' > SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' > TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > TERM = `cygwin' > TG_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > TOGETHER_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > USERDOMAIN = `GLOBAL' > USERNAME = `ebiris' > USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris' > VIM = `/usr/share/vim' > WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' > _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > (default) = `/cygdrive' > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > (default) = `c:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > (default) = `f:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > (default) = `s:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > (default) = `c:\tmp' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > (default) = `z:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > (default) = `C:' > unix = `/' > fbinary = 0x00000000 > fsilent = 0x00000000 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ex > plorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu\Programs\Cygnus Solutions > (default) = (unsupported type) > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > (default) = `/cygdrive' > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ > (default) = `C:/cygwin' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/B > (default) = `B:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > (default) = `c:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/d > (default) = `d:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > (default) = `f:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/l > (default) = `L:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/Q > (default) = `Q:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/R > (default) = `R:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > (default) = `s:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > (default) = `c:\tmp' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin > (default) = `C:/cygwin/bin' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib > (default) = `C:/cygwin/lib' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts > v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > (default) = `C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > (default) = `z:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\01 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\02 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\03 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\04 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\05 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\06 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\07 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\08 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\09 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0A > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0B > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0C > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0D > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0E > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0F > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\10 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\11 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\12 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\13 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\14 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\15 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\16 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\17 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\18 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\19 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1A > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1B > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1C > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1D > > a: fd N/A N/A > b: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > c: hd NTFS 6000Mb 91% CP CS UN PA FC > d: hd NTFS 2706Mb 81% CP CS UN PA FC > e: cd N/A N/A > f: net FAT 1024Mb 62% CP CS UN CIFS.HOMEDIR > g: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > h: net FAT 102400Mb 85% CP CS UN projects > i: net FAT 477520Mb 75% CP CS UN projects1 > j: net NTFS 994Mb 59% CP CS PA stream > k: net FAT 102400Mb 66% CP CS UN distiller > l: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > m: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > n: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > o: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > p: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > q: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > r: unk N/A N/A > s: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > t: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > u: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > w: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > x: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > y: unk N/A N/A > z: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > c: /c > user binmode > f: /f > user binmode > s: /s > user binmode > c:\tmp /tmp > user binmode > z: /z > user binmode > . /cygdrive > user binmode,cygdrive > C:/cygwin / > system binmode > B: /B > system binmode > c: /c > system binmode > d: /d > system binmode > f: /f > system binmode > L: /l > system binmode > Q: /Q > system binmode > R: /R > system binmode > s: /s > system binmode > c:\tmp /tmp > system binmode > C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin > system binmode > C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib > system binmode > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > system binmode > z: /z > system binmode > . /cygdrive > user binmode,cygdrive > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > 125k 2001/12/18 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygaudiofile-0.dll > - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/14 20:09 > 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 7:33 > 54k 2002/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 1:07 > 6k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:23 > 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > 111k 2002/06/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/13 15:58 > 326k 2002/06/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/18 23:12 > 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 16:58 > 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:28 > 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 3:05 > 306k 2002/04/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghttpd.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyghttpd.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/4/27 14:23 > 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:24 > 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 9:28 > 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 5:54 > 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 18:09 > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 23:59 > 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 5:19 > 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 0:46 > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:29 > 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:17 > 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 19:53 > 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 3:22 > 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 1:05 > 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 6:45 > 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 14:44 > 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 8:34 > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 3:45 > 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:49 > 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:50 > 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:19 > 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 4:38 > 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 2:17 > Cygwin DLL version info: > DLL version: 1.3.11 > DLL epoch: 19 > DLL bad signal mask: 19005 > DLL old termios: 5 > DLL malloc env: 28 > API major: 0 > API minor: 53 > Shared data: 3 > DLL identifier: cygwin1 > Mount registry: 2 > Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > Cygwin registry name: Cygwin > Program options name: Program Options > Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > Cygdrive default prefix: > Build date: Sun Jun 23 21:17:11 EDT 2002 > Shared id: cygwin1S3 > > 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/14 4:13 > > Cygwin Package Information > Last downloaded files to: G:\Utils\Cygwin\cygwin\packages > Last downloaded files from: > ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin > > Package Version > WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 > XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-jdoc 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 > XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 > XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 > _update-info-dir 00011-1 > apache 1.3.24-5 > ash 20020131-1 > audiofile 0.2.1-20011218 > autoconf 2.53a-1 > autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 > autoconf-stable 2.13-4 > automake 1.6.1-1 > automake-devel 1.6.1-3 > automake-stable 1.4p5-5 > bash 2.05a-3 > bc 1.06-1 > binutils 20011002-1 > bison 1.35-1 > byacc 1.9-1 > bzip2 1.0.2-2 > ccache 1.9-1 > cgoban 1.9.12-1 > clear 1.0-1 > compface 1.4-5 > cpio 2.4.2 > cron 3.0.1-6 > crypt 1.0-1 > ctags 5.2-1 > curl 7.9.8-1 > cvs 1.11.0-1 > cygipc 1.11-1 > cygrunsrv 0.95-1 > cygutils 1.1.1-1 > cygwin 1.3.11-3 > cygwin-doc 1.0-1 > db2 2.7.7-3 > dejagnu 20010117-1 > diff 1.0-1 > diffutils 2.8.1-1 > ed 0.2-1 > enscript 1.6.3-2 > expat 1.95.3-2 > expect 20010117-1 > fetchmail 5.9.13-1 > figlet 2.2-1 > file 3.37-1 > fileutils 4.1-1 > findutils 4.1.7-4 > flex 2.5.4-2 > fortune 1.8-2 > fvwm 2.4.7-2 > gawk 3.0.4-1 > gcc 2.95.3-5 > gdb 20010428-3 > gdbm 1.8.0-4 > gettext 0.11.2-2 > ghostscript 6.51-4 > gnugo 3.2-1 > gnupg 1.0.7-1 > gperf 0.0 > grep 2.5-1 > groff 1.17.2-1 > gsl 1.1.1-1 > gzip 1.3.2-1 > indent 2.2.8-1 > inetutils 1.3.2-18 > irc 20010101-1 > jbigkit 1.2-6 > 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2.0.1-1 > mutt 1.2.5i-6 > nano 1.0.7-1 > ncftp 3.1.3-1 > ncurses 5.2-8 > newlib-man 20001118-1 > openbox 0.99.1-3 > opengl 1.1.0-6 > openssh 3.4p1-1 > openssl 0.9.6d-1 > openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 > patch 2.5-3 > pcre 3.7-1 > perl 5.6.1-2 > pine 4.44-1 > pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 > popt 1.6.4-4 > postgresql 7.2.1-2 > procmail 3.22-6 > python 2.2.1-1 > qt-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > qt-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-qt-2.3.1-b2 > qtdevel-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > rcs 5.7-3 > readline 4.2a-1 > regex 4.4-2 > robots 2.0-1 > rsync 2.5.5-1 > rxvt 2.7.2-10 > sed 3.02-1 > sh-utils 2.0-2 > sharutils 4.2.1-2 > shutdown 1.2-2 > squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 > ssmtp 2.38.7-3 > swig 1.3.11-1 > tar 1.13.19-1 > tcltk 20001125-1 > tcsh 6.11.00-4 > termcap 20020403-1 > terminfo 5.2-3 > tetex-beta 20001218-4 > texinfo 4.2-3 > texmf-base 20000804-2 > texmf-doc 20000804-2 > texmf-extra 20000804-2 > texmf-tiny 20000804-2 > textutils 2.0.21-1 > tidy 020623-1 > tiff 3.5.7-1 > time 1.7-1 > ttcp 19980512-1 > ucl 1.01-1 > units 1.77-1 > unzip 5.50-1 > upx 1.21-1 > vim 6.1-2 > w32api 1.5-1 > wget 1.8.1-1 > which 1.5-1 > whois 4.5.17-1 > x2x 1.27-1 > xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 > zip 2.3-2 > zlib 1.1.4-1 > zsh 4.0.4-1 > > Use -h to see help about each section > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 28 05:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 05:32:00 -0000 Subject: xterm behaving oddly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Elias, By the way, you should look at the mailing list archives for the last few days and you'd see that this is a recent problem getting much discussion: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Elias Biris > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:49 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: xterm behaving oddly > > > By the way i should mention that i tried to start other programs > in X, such as gvim or xfig and they all came up nicely in the X > Server window. It seems that xterm is the odd one out. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Elias Biris > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:48 AM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: xterm behaving oddly > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to run XFree on cygwin. Had tried in the past (2 > > months ago) with success. Now I got all the packages for > > XFree (XFree86 4.2.0(165) - as appears to be the latest in > > the setup screens) using the cygwin setup program and tried > > WindowMaker/fvwm/ION window managers. In my previous attempt > > with XFree I had got all the packages by hand and installed > > them one by one. > > > > In window managers that I tried, although they start without > > errors, when I try to get an xterm it just flashes by the > > screen and vanishes. There is no error or debug output in the > > Cygwin shell box where I typed startx. > > > > Has anyone seen this before? I attach a the result of > > cygcheck -s -v -r below > > > > Kind regards > > > > Elias Biris, Systems and Design Verification R&D > > Cadence Design Systems Ltd, SOC Design Centre > > 1 The Alba Campus TEL: +44 (0)1506595036 > > Livingston, EH54 7HH FAX: +44 (0)1506595959 > > > > --------- > > > > > > Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics > > Current System Time: Fri Jun 28 09:43:26 2002 > > > > Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 > > > > Path: d:\atria\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\lib > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\i686-pc-cygwin > > . > > c:\programs\bin > > c:\programs\perl\bin > > C:\cygwin\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > c:\HOME\packages\ion\bin > > f:\Programs\emacs\emacs-21.1\bin > > c:\WINDOWS > > c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND > > c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > > > > SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 > > WinDir: C:\WINNT > > > > HOME = `c:\HOME' > > MAKE_MODE = `unix' > > PWD = `/c/HOME/install/ion-devel-20020605' > > TCL_LIBRARY = `c:\ruby\tcl\lib\tcl8.3' > > USER = `ebiris' > > > > ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' > > APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris\Application Data' > > CLEARCASE_PRIMARY_GROUP = `daemon' > > COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' > > COMPUTERNAME = `PC-EBIRIS' > > COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' > > HOMEPATH = `\' > > HOMESHARE = `\\svr1-livingston\users\ebiris\Private' > > INCLUDE = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\atl\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\mfc\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\include' > > JAVA_HOME = `C:\jdk1.3.1' > > JAVA_VERSION = `1.3.1' > > LIB = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\mfc\lib;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib' > > LOGONSERVER = `\\DC1SJGLOBAL' > > MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' > > MSDEVDIR = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98' > > NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' > > OLDPWD = `/c/HOME/install' > > OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' > > OS = `Windows_NT' > > PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.RB;.RBW' > > PKG_INSTALL_DIR = `c:\HOME\src\eCos-1.3.1\ebiris-install' > > PLUCKER_HOME = `f:\Programs\Plucker' > > PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' > > PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel' > > PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' > > PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0303' > > PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' > > PROMPT = `$P$G' > > PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 > > \033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] > > $ ' > > RUBY_TCL_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tcl83.dll' > > RUBY_TK_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tk83.dll' > > SCOPUS = `C:\SCOPUS32' > > SHELL = `/bin/bash' > > SHLVL = `1' > > SMS_LOCAL_DIR = `C:\WINNT' > > SYBASE = `C:\SYBASE' > > SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' > > SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' > > TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > > TERM = `cygwin' > > TG_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > > TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > > TOGETHER_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > > USERDOMAIN = `GLOBAL' > > USERNAME = `ebiris' > > USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris' > > VIM = `/usr/share/vim' > > WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' > > _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > > (default) = `/cygdrive' > > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > > (default) = `c:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > > (default) = `f:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > > (default) = `s:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > > (default) = `c:\tmp' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > > (default) = `z:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > > (default) = `C:' > > unix = `/' > > fbinary = 0x00000000 > > fsilent = 0x00000000 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ex > > plorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu\Programs\Cygnus Solutions > > (default) = (unsupported type) > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > > (default) = `/cygdrive' > > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ > > (default) = `C:/cygwin' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/B > > (default) = `B:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > > (default) = `c:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/d > > (default) = `d:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > > (default) = `f:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/l > > (default) = `L:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/Q > > (default) = `Q:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/R > > (default) = `R:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > > (default) = `s:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > > (default) = `c:\tmp' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin > > (default) = `C:/cygwin/bin' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib > > (default) = `C:/cygwin/lib' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts > > v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > > (default) = `C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > > (default) = `z:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\01 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\02 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\03 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\04 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\05 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\06 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\07 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\08 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\09 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0A > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0B > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0C > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0D > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0E > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0F > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\10 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\11 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\12 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\13 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\14 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\15 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\16 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\17 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\18 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\19 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1A > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1B > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1C > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1D > > > > a: fd N/A N/A > > b: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > c: hd NTFS 6000Mb 91% CP CS UN PA FC > > d: hd NTFS 2706Mb 81% CP CS UN PA FC > > e: cd N/A N/A > > f: net FAT 1024Mb 62% CP CS UN CIFS.HOMEDIR > > g: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > > h: net FAT 102400Mb 85% CP CS UN projects > > i: net FAT 477520Mb 75% CP CS UN projects1 > > j: net NTFS 994Mb 59% CP CS PA stream > > k: net FAT 102400Mb 66% CP CS UN distiller > > l: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > m: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > n: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > o: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > p: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > q: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > r: unk N/A N/A > > s: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > t: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > u: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > > w: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > x: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > y: unk N/A N/A > > z: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > > > c: /c > > user binmode > > f: /f > > user binmode > > s: /s > > user binmode > > c:\tmp /tmp > > user binmode > > z: /z > > user binmode > > . /cygdrive > > user binmode,cygdrive > > C:/cygwin / > > system binmode > > B: /B > > system binmode > > c: /c > > system binmode > > d: /d > > system binmode > > f: /f > > system binmode > > L: /l > > system binmode > > Q: /Q > > system binmode > > R: /R > > system binmode > > s: /s > > system binmode > > c:\tmp /tmp > > system binmode > > C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin > > system binmode > > C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib > > system binmode > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > > system binmode > > z: /z > > system binmode > > . /cygdrive > > user binmode,cygdrive > > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > > > 125k 2001/12/18 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygaudiofile-0.dll > > - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/14 20:09 > > 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 7:33 > > 54k 2002/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 1:07 > > 6k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:23 > > 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > > 111k 2002/06/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/13 15:58 > > 326k 2002/06/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/18 23:12 > > 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 16:58 > > 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:28 > > 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 3:05 > > 306k 2002/04/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghttpd.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cyghttpd.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/4/27 14:23 > > 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:24 > > 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 9:28 > > 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 5:54 > > 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 18:09 > > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > > 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 23:59 > > 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 5:19 > > 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 0:46 > > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > > 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:29 > > 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:17 > > 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > > 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > > 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > > 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 19:53 > > 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 3:22 > > 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 1:05 > > 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 6:45 > > 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 14:44 > > 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > > 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 8:34 > > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > > 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 3:45 > > 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:49 > > 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:50 > > 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:19 > > 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - > > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > > 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 4:38 > > 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 2:17 > > Cygwin DLL version info: > > DLL version: 1.3.11 > > DLL epoch: 19 > > DLL bad signal mask: 19005 > > DLL old termios: 5 > > DLL malloc env: 28 > > API major: 0 > > API minor: 53 > > Shared data: 3 > > DLL identifier: cygwin1 > > Mount registry: 2 > > Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > > Cygwin registry name: Cygwin > > Program options name: Program Options > > Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > > Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > > Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > > Cygdrive default prefix: > > Build date: Sun Jun 23 21:17:11 EDT 2002 > > Shared id: cygwin1S3 > > > > 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - > > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/14 4:13 > > > > Cygwin Package Information > > Last downloaded files to: G:\Utils\Cygwin\cygwin\packages > > Last downloaded files from: > > ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin > > > > Package Version > > WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 > > XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-jdoc 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 > > XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 > > _update-info-dir 00011-1 > > apache 1.3.24-5 > > ash 20020131-1 > > audiofile 0.2.1-20011218 > > autoconf 2.53a-1 > > autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 > > autoconf-stable 2.13-4 > > automake 1.6.1-1 > > automake-devel 1.6.1-3 > > automake-stable 1.4p5-5 > > bash 2.05a-3 > > bc 1.06-1 > > binutils 20011002-1 > > bison 1.35-1 > > byacc 1.9-1 > > bzip2 1.0.2-2 > > ccache 1.9-1 > > cgoban 1.9.12-1 > > clear 1.0-1 > > compface 1.4-5 > > cpio 2.4.2 > > cron 3.0.1-6 > > crypt 1.0-1 > > ctags 5.2-1 > > curl 7.9.8-1 > > cvs 1.11.0-1 > > cygipc 1.11-1 > > cygrunsrv 0.95-1 > > cygutils 1.1.1-1 > > cygwin 1.3.11-3 > > cygwin-doc 1.0-1 > > db2 2.7.7-3 > > dejagnu 20010117-1 > > diff 1.0-1 > > diffutils 2.8.1-1 > > ed 0.2-1 > > enscript 1.6.3-2 > > expat 1.95.3-2 > > expect 20010117-1 > > fetchmail 5.9.13-1 > > figlet 2.2-1 > > file 3.37-1 > > fileutils 4.1-1 > > findutils 4.1.7-4 > > flex 2.5.4-2 > > fortune 1.8-2 > > fvwm 2.4.7-2 > > gawk 3.0.4-1 > > gcc 2.95.3-5 > > gdb 20010428-3 > > gdbm 1.8.0-4 > > gettext 0.11.2-2 > > ghostscript 6.51-4 > > gnugo 3.2-1 > > gnupg 1.0.7-1 > > gperf 0.0 > > grep 2.5-1 > > groff 1.17.2-1 > > gsl 1.1.1-1 > > gzip 1.3.2-1 > > indent 2.2.8-1 > > inetutils 1.3.2-18 > > irc 20010101-1 > > jbigkit 1.2-6 > > jpeg 6b-7 > > kdelibs-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.1.2-b1 > > kdelibs-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2.2.2-b1 > > kdesupport-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.1.2-b1 > > keychain 1.8-1 > > less 374-1 > > lesstif 0.93.18-3 > > libPropList 0.10.1-3 > > libbz2_0 1.0.2-1 > > libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 > > libcharset1 1.8-2 > > libdb2 2.7.7-3 > > libdb2-devel 2.7.7-3 > > libiconv 1.8-2 > > libiconv2 1.8-2 > > libintl 0.10.38-3 > > libintl1 0.10.40-1 > > libintl2 0.11.2-2 > > libncurses5 5.2-1 > > libncurses6 5.2-8 > > libpng 1.2.3-1 > > libpng10 1.0.13-3 > > libpng10-devel 1.0.13-3 > > libpng12 1.2.3-1 > > libpng12-devel 1.2.3-1 > > libpng2 1.0.12-1 > > libpopt0 1.6.4-4 > > libreadline4 4.1-2 > > libreadline5 4.2a-1 > > libtool 20020202a-1 > > libtool-devel 20020502-2 > > libtool-stable 1.4.2-2 > > libxml2 2.4.17-1 > > libxslt 1.0.13-1 > > links 0.96-1 > > login 1.4-3 > > lynx 2.8.4-1 > > m4 0.0 > > make 3.79.1-7 > > man 1.5g-2 > > mingw 20010917-1 > > mingw-runtime 2.0-2 > > mktemp 1.4-1 > > mod_auth_mysql 1.11-1 > > mod_auth_ntsec 1.7-1 > > mod_dav 1.0.3-1.3.6-1 > > mod_php4 4.2.0-1 > > mod_ssl 2.8.8-1.3.24-1 > > more 2.11o-1 > > mt 2.0.1-1 > > mutt 1.2.5i-6 > > nano 1.0.7-1 > > ncftp 3.1.3-1 > > ncurses 5.2-8 > > newlib-man 20001118-1 > > openbox 0.99.1-3 > > opengl 1.1.0-6 > > openssh 3.4p1-1 > > openssl 0.9.6d-1 > > openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 > > patch 2.5-3 > > pcre 3.7-1 > > perl 5.6.1-2 > > pine 4.44-1 > > pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 > > popt 1.6.4-4 > > postgresql 7.2.1-2 > > procmail 3.22-6 > > python 2.2.1-1 > > qt-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > > qt-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-qt-2.3.1-b2 > > qtdevel-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > > rcs 5.7-3 > > readline 4.2a-1 > > regex 4.4-2 > > robots 2.0-1 > > rsync 2.5.5-1 > > rxvt 2.7.2-10 > > sed 3.02-1 > > sh-utils 2.0-2 > > sharutils 4.2.1-2 > > shutdown 1.2-2 > > squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 > > ssmtp 2.38.7-3 > > swig 1.3.11-1 > > tar 1.13.19-1 > > tcltk 20001125-1 > > tcsh 6.11.00-4 > > termcap 20020403-1 > > terminfo 5.2-3 > > tetex-beta 20001218-4 > > texinfo 4.2-3 > > texmf-base 20000804-2 > > texmf-doc 20000804-2 > > texmf-extra 20000804-2 > > texmf-tiny 20000804-2 > > textutils 2.0.21-1 > > tidy 020623-1 > > tiff 3.5.7-1 > > time 1.7-1 > > ttcp 19980512-1 > > ucl 1.01-1 > > units 1.77-1 > > unzip 5.50-1 > > upx 1.21-1 > > vim 6.1-2 > > w32api 1.5-1 > > wget 1.8.1-1 > > which 1.5-1 > > whois 4.5.17-1 > > x2x 1.27-1 > > xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 > > zip 2.3-2 > > zlib 1.1.4-1 > > zsh 4.0.4-1 > > > > Use -h to see help about each section > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 28 05:59:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 05:59:00 -0000 Subject: Win95B TrackMouseEvent not in User32.dll In-Reply-To: <3D1C186A.13916.513D0AD@localhost> Message-ID: Carl, > Sorry for not doing this through the mailing lists, but I don't > subscribe and I figured you should know about this problem if > you haven't heard from others on this. When I searched for > TrackMouseEvent in the online mailing list, I did not see > reference to this recent problem. First: If you don't want to subscribe to the cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com mailing list, you can alternatively read through the archives and post from your normal email account with a note that we should cc you on replies. The list is not restricted to posting by members. > The XWIN.EXE file is linked to missing export > USR32.DLL:TrackMouseEvent. Second: Thanks for the bug report. I should actually have been calling _TrackMouseEvent from comctl32.dll, which calls TrackMouseEvent in user32.dll if it is present, otherwise it emulates it. _TrackMouseEvent is available on Windows 95 with IE 3.0 or later. This fix will be in the next Test and stable release. Heh... I just read the rest of your message... you pointed me to the same answer :) Silly me... > I realize that Win95 is a bit old now, but XFree86/Cygwin is > advertised to work on Win95. Unfortunately, I have a lot of > stuff on this system, which has been inhibiting me from > upgrading to Win98 or later. Maybe this will force me to do > this onerous task. Is the plan to drop support for Win95? Can > I readily back-off to a version that works with Win95B via > the Cygwin setup? No plan to drop support for Windows 95, just a mistake. You'll recall my famous last words when I committed the TrackMouseEvent patch, "I don't remember why we weren't using TrackMouseEvent before, oh well." Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: holmberg@tiac.net [mailto:holmberg@tiac.net] > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 8:04 AM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: holmberg@tiac.net > Subject: Win95B TrackMouseEvent not in User32.dll > > > Harold, > > Sorry for not doing this through the mailing lists, but I don't > subscribe and I figured you should know about this problem if > you haven't heard from others on this. When I searched for > TrackMouseEvent in the online mailing list, I did not see > reference to this recent problem. > > I've been using XFree86 under cygwin for some time now on a > Win95B system. However, in order to synchronize and get this > code under the Cygwin setup management, I updated to the latest > version through cygwin setup. Now I no longer have a > functioning XFree86 system. > > The error that occurs is: > > The XWIN.EXE file is linked to missing export > USR32.DLL:TrackMouseEvent. > > I searched on the WWW and found references that indicated that > for Win95, the export is _TrackMouseEvent in COMCTL32.DLL (this > comes with IE3.02 and higher but can install independently). > > I realize that Win95 is a bit old now, but XFree86/Cygwin is > advertised to work on Win95. Unfortunately, I have a lot of > stuff on this system, which has been inhibiting me from > upgrading to Win98 or later. Maybe this will force me to do > this onerous task. Is the plan to drop support for Win95? Can > I readily back-off to a version that works with Win95B via > the Cygwin setup? > > Thanks, > > Carl Holmberg > > > > > From wkwan@grow.net Fri Jun 28 09:56:00 2002 From: wkwan@grow.net (Kwan, William) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: Xterm does not start in new installation Message-ID: <53A29CF72629D511B5C600B0D0AB70858ADD63@PALM> Hi all, Cygwin+XFree worked fine for me when I download Cygwin and download the XFree zip files separately. This week I realized that I can actually run the setup program and get both Cygwin and XFree at the same time. (yeah.. I am kinda slow). I ran the setup program, made sure XFree86 basic is selected. Installation went fine. When I run '/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh', all I get is a green screen, mouse curse came up. I click the mouse but the xterm window does come up. Any clue? Am I missing some configuration steps? Thanks in advance William From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Fri Jun 28 10:07:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: Xterm does not start in new installation Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04CB3@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> I am going to take the liberty here of pointing you to my message from yesterday on how I was able, with the help of many PATIENT people here to fix my problem with XFREE/Cygwin, which sounds a lot like yours. Look for FW: xfree success! at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00415.html Wayne Keen From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Fri Jun 28 10:23:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:23:00 -0000 Subject: qt3.0.4 beta1 release available Message-ID: <008701c21ec8$7ccb83c0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi all, A binary package of the qt-3.0.4 beta 1 release os available. Detailed informations about this release could be found under http://cygwin.kde.org/qt3/ Regards Ralf From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 11:16:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:16:00 -0000 Subject: Use Tcp.h? Message-ID: <20020628181636.17585.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 11:19:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: Use Tcp.h? Message-ID: <20020628181947.39561.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I was wondering why X builds with -DNO_TCP_H? Doesn't cygwin have a pretty complete tcp.h/in.h header implementation now? Cheers, Nicholas P.S. - My hand slipped an I accidently sent the last message blank...sorry. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From cgf@redhat.com Fri Jun 28 12:04:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:04:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future Message-ID: <20020628190404.GA8676@redhat.com> I was wondering if I could get some volunteers to test out future cygwin releases on X so that we can potentially avoid scenarios like the recent problems with 1.3.11. All that I would ask is that people be available to try snapshots on a regular basis. I will try to remember to announce any snapshots where there are major functionality changes and I'll try to give at least a week's notice before making a new release (unless I'm trying to make a bug-fix release, of course). I'm basically interested in getting a few people to just stay on the "cutting edge" of cygwin development so that we will know when things break. Anyone interested in doing this? cgf From dockeen@mchsi.com Fri Jun 28 13:36:00 2002 From: dockeen@mchsi.com (Dockeen) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:36:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future Message-ID: I will give it a shot Chris. I am a newborn at XFree, but I know that, so I'll try to be careful about crying wolf too often. I am running Win XP Pro on a laptop. I generally get and run setup every couple of days on my system... Wayne Keen From cgf@redhat.com Fri Jun 28 14:09:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:09:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020628210921.GA10688@redhat.com> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 03:35:52PM -0400, Dockeen wrote: >I will give it a shot Chris. Ok. Rule #1 is don't Cc me in messages to the mailng list. You must have had to explicitly set my name in the Cc which should have been a clue. >I am a newborn at XFree, but I know that, so I'll try to be careful >about crying wolf too often. > >I am running Win XP Pro on a laptop. I generally get and run setup >every couple of days on my system... snapshots != running setup.exe. I've posted multiple messages about snapshots and how to install them but I am still getting the feeling that people think that a "cygwin snapshot" is what they get from running setup.exe. However, if you are actually willing to try a *snapshot* then welcome aboard. cgf From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 14:24:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future In-Reply-To: <20020628190404.GA8676@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020628212411.1568.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Chris, I don't know if this will be beneficial or not, but I intend to be assisting Conrad in testing his cygdaemon branch. Specifically, I will be recompiling X11 with the MIT-SHM extension to use cygserver instead of cygipc. So I guess the off shot is that I'll be constantly using a bleeding-edge version of cygwin1.dll with X11. The only issue is that I'll have to be mindful of problems being generated by the cygserver code and those being generated by the HEAD code. So, I'll let people know if something strange shows up regarding X and the latest cygwin code. Cheers, Nicholas --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > I was wondering if I could get some volunteers to test out future > cygwin releases on X so that we can potentially avoid scenarios > like the recent problems with 1.3.11. > > All that I would ask is that people be available to try snapshots > on a regular basis. I will try to remember to announce any snapshots > where there are major functionality changes and I'll try to give at > least a week's notice before making a new release (unless I'm trying > to make a bug-fix release, of course). > > I'm basically interested in getting a few people to just stay on > the "cutting edge" of cygwin development so that we will know when > things break. > > Anyone interested in doing this? > > cgf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 14:41:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:41:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020628214059.63905.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harold Hunt wrote: > I've posted the patch against the current CVS tree for changes up > through > Test 61 (and a few minutes afterwards), for those of you following the > development of Cygwin/XFree86: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test61.diff.bz2 (21 KiB) ^^^ Is this necessary? I'll spare you my rant on this bastard of the ISO... > Here's a couple questions: > > 1) Should I start posting CVS diff files with each test release? If > there are developers out there interested in this I can do it; if there > aren't, I might as well not bother. As I am revving up to assist Conrad in debugging and testing cygserver, so this would be helpful! A better solution would be to host a cygwin-xfree branch of the main xfree cvs on sources.redhat.com (pending Chris' approval of course). This would be *extremely* helpful for those of us who might be planning to do extensive updating on a regular basis. Also, this might allow for seamless patches against your changes. Anyhow, this is just a thought... > 2) Are the change logs too wordy?...[SNIP] They are just right ;-). I always say you can never be too verbose with documentation... > > 3) How do you like the first six hours I've had to work on > Cygwin/XFree86 > without any homework to slow me down, for the first time in 18 months? > :) You're doing great, keep up the excellent work! Hopefully, now you'll have time to finish those gtk stuffs. ;-) > > Oh yeah, Test61 will need some series testing by users with hardware > that > does ``packed'' 24 bit color pixels (Windows will let you select 24 bit > color rather than 32 bit color when such hardware is present). I > haven't > got a single machine that can do packed 24 bit pixels so I haven't been > able > to test at 24 bit color. Hmmm... Unfortunately, the only card I have which does true 24bpp is my Sun Creator 3D, which is of no use to you... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 14:57:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:57:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020628215737.75936.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Massimo, > > Unfortunately I know nothing about Xt and apparently no one else on the > list > does either, or at least they haven't run into your same problem. > > We haven't made any Cygwin-specific changes to the Xt code in XFree86 so > it > wouldn't have been by our doing that something is now broken. Granted, > there may have been changes to Xt that required a missing change on our > part, but then we wouldn't know if that was the case, would we? :) > > You can always do whatever I do when I've got a problem: > 1) Scour any documentation that I've got, reading and re-reading it > until I > know for a fact that what I have programmed is 100% correct. > 2) Scour google.com for any additional information I can find. > 3) Take a look at the source code for the library, in your case Xt. > 4) Do a debug build of Cygwin/XFree86 (following the instructions in the > Contributor's Guide) and run my application in gdb so I can step through > until I see the crash. > 5) Try to rewrite my program to be "safer". That is, try to do things > that > the documentation doesn't explicitly mention but that will probably not > hurt. For example, in Windows you might throw in a call to UpdateWindow > following your first call to ShowWindow if you were having problems > where > your program didn't paint on launch; some documentation may leave out > this > detail that calling UpdateWindow is logically necessary. > 6) Repeat 1 through 5 until the problem is corrected. > > Know this: a sample program working on Linux but failing on Cygwin > doesn't > mean that the sample program is correctly implemented. In my experience > I > have seen Cygwin react more catastrophically to simple programming > errors, > whereas Linux seems to be pretty tolerant of mistakes. I have no idea > why > this is the case, but that just seems to be the pattern. This is kind > of > like saying "my program works just fine with no optimization, but with > -O2 > is segfaults"... sometimes a simple change in the underlying layers can > make > a fault more evident. > > Good luck, > > Harold > > P.S. The Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide is here: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ciccotelli Massimo > > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:52 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: XtManageChild broken??? > > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a port of a Linux application on Cygwin which worked fine using > > XFree version 4.1.0. > > > > Executing the code after recompiling with version 4.2.0 it crashes > > (segmentation fault) when I try to open a menu. > > > > I have tried to identify the problem (unfortunately I am not an X11 > > expert); it seems due to a call of > > XtManageChild !!! > > > > Digging around in the Internet I have found a simple example which > shows > > the same behaviour of my application. the code is the following: > > > > #include > > #include > > #include > > #include > > #include ^^^^^^^^^^ [SNIP] Hi, I don't know if anyone noticed, but his code is using a lot of Xm header files and some *tif code. The question I might ask is: Are you using OpenMOTIF or LessTIF on your linux box? AFAIK, OpenMOTIF based applications aren't always 100% compatible with the LessTIF libraries. We aren't even sure if Linux LessTIF applications are 100% compatible with Cygwin LessTIF libraries. And since OpenMOTIF libraries are intertwined with Xt, it is possible that some incompatibilities exist. I'm no X expert, but this would be my first guess as to where you might look. Eliminate that, and then you can call the XFree code into question... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From lee.1801@osu.edu Sat Jun 29 09:58:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:58:00 -0000 Subject: no need to install xfree86 Message-ID: <003701c21f8e$24d96800$128e1941@alleluja> Greetings.. I remember that formerly i have to setup Xfree86 after Cygwin installation is finished..Now i found that with the present version Cygwin, the dir 'cygwin/usr/X11R6' is already there, and 'x11R6/bin' does contains such commands as: startx, xwin, startxwin.bat... Do i have to install xfree86 agin to use the x-window? since i tried startx, startxwin.bat, neither of them worked. Thanks ----- $ startx giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. $ startxwin.bat startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000 Administrator@ALLELUJA /cygdrive/d $ From cygwin@cygwin.com Sat Jun 29 11:00:00 2002 From: cygwin@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:00:00 -0000 Subject: Please try 2002-06-29 snapshot Message-ID: <20020629180023.GA16490@redhat.com> I just refreshed the 2002-06-29 snapshot a couple of minutes ago. Please try it. Thanks, cgf Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ . 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 4) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 5) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sat Jun 29 14:37:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:37:00 -0000 Subject: current cygwin includes xfree86? In-Reply-To: <001501c21fb0$97d810a0$128e1941@alleluja> References: <001501c21fb0$97d810a0$128e1941@alleluja> Message-ID: <20020629213712.GA18001@redhat.com> Redirecting to correct mailing list. On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 05:04:38PM -0400, hongxun lee wrote: >I remember that formerly i have to setup Xfree86 after Cygwin installation >is finished..Now i found that with the present version Cygwin, the dir >'cygwin/usr/X11R6' is already there, and 'x11R6/bin' does contains such >commands as: startx, xwin, startxwin.bat...but none of them worked. > >Do i have to install (d/l those binaries, unzip and ....) xfree86 again to >use the x-window? Thanks > >----- >$ startx >giving up. >xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server >xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > >$ startxwin.bat >startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000 > >Administrator@ALLELUJA /cygdrive/d >$ From lee.1801@osu.edu Sat Jun 29 14:42:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: current cygwin includes xfree86? References: <001501c21fb0$97d810a0$128e1941@alleluja> <20020629213712.GA18001@redhat.com> Message-ID: <002b01c21fb5$efb47d40$128e1941@alleluja> thank you anyway for redirecting it..but it was done before.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: current cygwin includes xfree86? > Redirecting to correct mailing list. > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 05:04:38PM -0400, hongxun lee wrote: > >I remember that formerly i have to setup Xfree86 after Cygwin installation > >is finished..Now i found that with the present version Cygwin, the dir > >'cygwin/usr/X11R6' is already there, and 'x11R6/bin' does contains such > >commands as: startx, xwin, startxwin.bat...but none of them worked. > > > >Do i have to install (d/l those binaries, unzip and ....) xfree86 again to > >use the x-window? Thanks > > > >----- > >$ startx > >giving up. > >xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server > >xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > > >$ startxwin.bat > >startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000 > > > >Administrator@ALLELUJA /cygdrive/d > >$ > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > From rick_rankin@yahoo.com Sat Jun 29 21:19:00 2002 From: rick_rankin@yahoo.com (Rick Rankin) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:19:00 -0000 Subject: Please try 2002-06-29 snapshot In-Reply-To: <20020629180023.GA16490@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020630041949.59228.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > I just refreshed the 2002-06-29 snapshot a couple of minutes ago. > > Please try it. Still looks good from a performance standpoint. --Rick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From gp@familiehaase.de Sun Jun 30 01:31:00 2002 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:31:00 -0000 Subject: Please try 2002-06-29 snapshot In-Reply-To: <20020629180023.GA16490@redhat.com> References: <20020629180023.GA16490@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6286466492.20020630103215@familiehaase.de> Hallo Christopher, Am Samstag, 29. Juni 2002 um 20:00 schriebst du: > I just refreshed the 2002-06-29 snapshot a couple of minutes ago. > Please try it. Perl-5.8 (some patches after RC2) builds fine and all tests are passing. Gerrit -- =^..^= From he@klaki.net Sun Jun 2 00:55:00 2002 From: he@klaki.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hrafnkell_Eir=EDksson?=) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 00:55:00 -0000 Subject: -xkbmap parameter not working? Message-ID: <20020531091108.B27761@klaki.net> Hi I can't get the -xkbmap parameter to work. I want to use it to set the keyboard layout to Icelandic. Issuing "setxkbmap is" from a shell after I log in works (though I have to issue it twice for some reason). I though that adding "-xkbmap is" to the XWin.exe command line should do the trick but it has no effect. The XFree installation on my Win2k (cygwin) host has all the xkb mapfiles in /usr/X11R6/lib/xkb/ What do I have to do to get this working? Thanks Hrafnkell From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Jun 2 01:00:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 01:00:00 -0000 Subject: significant delay in xinit detected Message-ID: <000001c2089c$cc513670$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi all, while working with kde/cygwin and xfree/cygwin I recognized a significant timeout of xinit, after starting the x server and before starting the x client relevant stuff. It seems that xinit goes into a timeout while waiting for the X process, because the delay does not depend on how long the xserver needs (I recognized this on a very fast machine, on which the xserver only needs 1/2 second to start). xinit waits then 5 seconds before starting the .xinitrc script. I remember on the first days on kde2 we have a similar problem with kdeinit, which was solved by Chris January. Because currently I have no idea, whats going on, is there anyone who can give a hints for this ? Regards Ralf Habacker From sunossolaris@hotmail.com Sun Jun 2 02:43:00 2002 From: sunossolaris@hotmail.com (Diego Duarte) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 02:43:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port Message-ID: >Title: AmiWM 0.20-pl48 >Url: http://www.megaservice.host.sk/AmiWM-0.20pl48-cygwin.tar.gz >Type: Software >Author: Diego Duarte >Email: sunossolaris@hotmail.com >Date: 2002-05-30 >Text: The WorkBench WM ( AmigaPC) ( very very, smaller, (145kb )) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Jun 2 03:32:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 03:32:00 -0000 Subject: significant delay in xinit detected In-Reply-To: <000001c2089c$cc513670$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <000b01c208be$3d381810$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > while working with kde/cygwin and xfree/cygwin I recognized a significant > timeout of xinit, after starting the x server and before starting the x > client relevant stuff. It seems that xinit goes into a timeout while > waiting for > the X process, because the delay does not depend on how long the xserver needs > (I recognized this on a very fast machine, on which the xserver only needs 1/2 > second to start). xinit waits then 5 seconds before starting the .xinitrc > script. Looking a little deeper into the source shows that the timeout is about 15 sec, not only 5, and it seems that xinit does not recognizes the running x process. Ralf From miblazevic@hotmail.com Sun Jun 2 06:10:00 2002 From: miblazevic@hotmail.com (Miso Blazevic) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:10:00 -0000 Subject: A job for you Message-ID: <1971756-2200260275530240@blazevic> Hi! We are offering you a possibility to use your free time and make some money over the internet. This is a global business with warranty. As this is a serious business we expect from our candidates the following: - minimum 18 years of age - desire for team work If you are interested you can find more information about this job on Page http://misohr.tripod.com/misoen.html if the link above for some reason doesn't work please contact me and we will sign up you manually. Application is absolutely free and it doesn?t obligate you for anything and you can quit whenever you like. 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These are the messages I got: %% DPS Client Library Warning: Auto-launching DPS NX agent. %% DPS Client Library Warning: FAILED to auto-launch: dpsnx.agent texteroids: DPS is not available. You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. Wonder if anyone could help? Zechy From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Jun 2 06:42:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:42:00 -0000 Subject: -xkbmap parameter not working? In-Reply-To: <20020531091108.B27761@klaki.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 31 May 2002, Hrafnkell Eir?ksson wrote: > Hi > > I can't get the -xkbmap parameter to work. I want to use it to > set the keyboard layout to Icelandic. Issuing "setxkbmap is" from > a shell after I log in works (though I have to issue it twice for > some reason). I though that adding "-xkbmap is" to the XWin.exe > command line should do the trick but it has no effect. > The XFree installation on my Win2k (cygwin) host has all the > xkb mapfiles in /usr/X11R6/lib/xkb/ > > What do I have to do to get this working? You have to compile a keymap. xkbcomp -xkm -m is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/is.xkm then XWin -xkbmap is bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From munir@amanjordan.org Sun Jun 2 06:52:00 2002 From: munir@amanjordan.org (Munir - Aman) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: Arab Women Message-ID: <200206021009.g52A9LB23494@mail.nets1.com.jo> Aman News Center in Arabic http://www.amanjordan.org/arabic_news/ Aman News Center in English http://www.amanjordan.org/english/daily_news/index.php Aman Main Page in Arabic http://www.amanjordan.org/index1.htm Aman Main Page in English http://www.amanjordan.org/english/index.htm The Arab Regional Resource Center on Violence against Women (AMAN) located in Amman / JORDAN From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 06:52:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <000b01c20a0b$9d4ecb60$b914a6ca@pc185> References: <000b01c20a0b$9d4ecb60$b914a6ca@pc185> Message-ID: <20020602103218.GB1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > FAILED to auto-launch: > dpsnx.agent > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > Wonder if anyone could help? That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. Alan. From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 06:56:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:56:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602103218.GB1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Ummm, Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line that says: -initial DPS extension support If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the cygwin distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to build it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to your xfree. In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. Cheers, Nicholas --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > dpsnx.agent > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > Alan. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 07:03:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:03:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602103218.GB1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602133557.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Ummm, Excuse me, but you are wrong.... The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That means server side support. There is however client side support. What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and uses our client side libraries. As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should be removed. Alan. On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Ummm, > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line that > says: > -initial DPS extension support > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the cygwin > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to build > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to your > xfree. > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > Alan. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 07:10:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602134253.20325.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Ok, I forgot the fact that building libdps depends on "strict motif" or gtk libs, the former not being "open source" (nor legally available for windows) and the latter still being ported to cygwin by Harold. I apologize for the minor confusion, as I was still thinking in "linux mode". For the curious, please check out: http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/dps.html http://dps.sourceforge.net/ --> Show actual textroids screenshot in linux http://www.gyve.org/gtkDPS/ I do have some commentary regarding the so-called "Open Group". There is nothing that pisses me of more then that oxymoron of a name. Yet another example of academic innovation being commericialized for corporate greed and profit (The last time I checked MIT did recieve government subsidies). Personally I feel like giving the "Open Group" the finger by porting the motif sources to cygwin and providing to all interested for download. Lets face it, lesstif is nice, but it is still not there yet in terms of full compatibility. Frankly, the excuses used to classify cygwin as a non-open source platform are splitting hairs in my opinion. But, again, these are my opinions and you are free to disagree. I just felt I needed to release some steam about this pet peeve of mine. Cheers, Nicholas --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Ummm, > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > that > says: > -initial DPS extension support > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > cygwin > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > build > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > your > xfree. > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > Alan. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 07:13:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:13:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602133557.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602135231.75538.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Juliusz, Is what Alan saying true? Are there no plans to have a server side DPS extension officially in the xfree distribution? I noticed from the cvs activity that the libraries are still being maintained... Cheers, Nicholas --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > Ummm, > > Excuse me, but you are wrong.... > > The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That > means server side support. There is however client side support. > > What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and > it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. > > Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to > get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in > 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program > which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and > uses our client side libraries. > > As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an > awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should > be removed. > > Alan. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Ummm, > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > that > > says: > > -initial DPS extension support > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > cygwin > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold > can > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > build > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > your > > xfree. > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I > got: > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > Alan. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 07:18:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:18:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602134253.20325.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602131035.4604.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> <20020602134253.20325.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602135241.GF1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Huh ? libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the 4.1.0 RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net provides an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our baseline tree. What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. Alan. On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:42:53AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Ok, > > I forgot the fact that building libdps depends on "strict motif" or gtk > libs, the former not being "open source" (nor legally available for > windows) and the latter still being ported to cygwin by Harold. I > apologize for the minor confusion, as I was still thinking in "linux > mode". For the curious, please check out: > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/dps.html > http://dps.sourceforge.net/ --> Show actual textroids screenshot in linux > http://www.gyve.org/gtkDPS/ > > > I do have some commentary regarding the so-called "Open Group". There is > nothing that pisses me of more then that oxymoron of a name. Yet another > example of academic innovation being commericialized for corporate greed > and profit (The last time I checked MIT did recieve government subsidies). > Personally I feel like giving the "Open Group" the finger by porting the > motif sources to cygwin and providing to all interested for download. > Lets face it, lesstif is nice, but it is still not there yet in terms of > full compatibility. Frankly, the excuses used to classify cygwin as a > non-open source platform are splitting hairs in my opinion. But, again, > these are my opinions and you are free to disagree. I just felt I needed > to release some steam about this pet peeve of mine. > > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Ummm, > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > > that > > says: > > -initial DPS extension support > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > > cygwin > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold can > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > > build > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > > your > > xfree. > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I got: > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 07:33:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602135231.75538.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602133557.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602135231.75538.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602135604.GG1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Nicholas, There currently exists NO server side support in the current XFree86 CVS. Juliusz may have every intention of moving the code from dps.sourceforge.net into the baseline XFree86 CVS at some point in the future. But currently it ain't there. Probably because, as far as the webpage is concerned, it still claims it's pre-alpha stage. And it even mentions that your better off running dgs if your seriously needing DPS support. Alan. On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:52:31AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Juliusz, > > Is what Alan saying true? Are there no plans to have a server side DPS > extension officially in the xfree distribution? I noticed from the cvs > activity that the libraries are still being maintained... > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Ummm, > > > > Excuse me, but you are wrong.... > > > > The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That > > means server side support. There is however client side support. > > > > What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and > > it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. > > > > Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to > > get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in > > 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program > > which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and > > uses our client side libraries. > > > > As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an > > awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should > > be removed. > > > > Alan. > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > Ummm, > > > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > > that > > > says: > > > -initial DPS extension support > > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > > cygwin > > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold > > can > > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > > build > > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in to > > your > > > xfree. > > > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Nicholas > > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I > > got: > > > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open source > > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 07:52:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:52:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602135241.GF1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602140354.21985.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > Huh ? > > libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, > in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. > It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. Yes you are right for the core library, but some additional widgets included in addon library require motif: The source code for libdpstkXm is included with XFree86; however, as it depends on Motif, this library is not built by default. Sorry for the confusion. > There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the 4.1.0 > RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net provides > an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our > baseline tree. So the release notes are wrong, I wrote this letter before I received your clarification on that... > What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? > > You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. Why am I ranting? Because it is highly annoying that they have forbidden using "OpenMotif" on Cygwin/XFree86 when they know full well that Cygwin/XFree86 is NOT Microsoft Windows, but a platform of its own that happens to run on top of MS Windows. In any event, if you followed the list, some other porting projects have been hindered by the lack of OpenMotif or full Lesstif->Motif compatibility. As I said you can disagree, but it is relevant to the project. I mean pressure needs to be put on the so-called "Open Group" to change that policy. Cheers, Nicholas > Alan. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:42:53AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Ok, > > > > I forgot the fact that building libdps depends on "strict motif" or > gtk > > libs, the former not being "open source" (nor legally available for > > windows) and the latter still being ported to cygwin by Harold. I > > apologize for the minor confusion, as I was still thinking in "linux > > mode". For the curious, please check out: > > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/dps.html > > http://dps.sourceforge.net/ --> Show actual textroids screenshot in > linux > > http://www.gyve.org/gtkDPS/ > > > > > > I do have some commentary regarding the so-called "Open Group". There > is > > nothing that pisses me of more then that oxymoron of a name. Yet > another > > example of academic innovation being commericialized for corporate > greed > > and profit (The last time I checked MIT did recieve government > subsidies). > > Personally I feel like giving the "Open Group" the finger by porting > the > > motif sources to cygwin and providing to all interested for download. > > Lets face it, lesstif is nice, but it is still not there yet in terms > of > > full compatibility. Frankly, the excuses used to classify cygwin as a > > non-open source platform are splitting hairs in my opinion. But, > again, > > these are my opinions and you are free to disagree. I just felt I > needed > > to release some steam about this pet peeve of mine. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > Ummm, > > > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the line > > > that > > > says: > > > -initial DPS extension support > > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in the > > > cygwin > > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure harold > can > > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt to > > > build > > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in > to > > > your > > > xfree. > > > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, IIRC. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Nicholas > > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages I > got: > > > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX agent. > > > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open > source > > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 14:40:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 14:40:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602140354.21985.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602135241.GF1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602140354.21985.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602141007.GI1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:03:54AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Huh ? > > > > libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, > > in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. > > It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. > Yes you are right for the core library, but some additional widgets > included in addon library require motif: > > The source code for libdpstkXm is included with XFree86; however, as it > depends on Motif, this library is not built by default. > > Sorry for the confusion. Right. And that's why I'm saying it doesn't depend on them. If you have them available fine. > > There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the 4.1.0 > > RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net provides > > an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our > > baseline tree. > So the release notes are wrong, I wrote this letter before I received your > clarification on that... > > > What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? > > > > You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. > > Why am I ranting? Because it is highly annoying that they have forbidden > using "OpenMotif" on Cygwin/XFree86 when they know full well that > Cygwin/XFree86 is NOT Microsoft Windows, but a platform of its own that > happens to run on top of MS Windows. In any event, if you followed the > list, some other porting projects have been hindered by the lack of > OpenMotif or full Lesstif->Motif compatibility. As I said you can > disagree, but it is relevant to the project. I mean pressure needs to be > put on the so-called "Open Group" to change that policy. Huh again. Where did I say I was disagreeing with you. And why don't you think I follow this list ? I've been on this list for quite some time. If you have some bitching to do about "The Open Group" that bitch at them. We already know the problems we've got here, or help improve LessTif which is certainly more productive. Alan. From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 18:35:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 18:35:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602135604.GG1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Alan, I realize this point, but in light of recent debate, I wanted to submit an inquiry to be updated on the status of his project, and any future plans. This might be relevent to the list, as it was the whole purpose of the initial question. Which, by the way, has caused you to rethink your stance. The whole reason I became so impassioned is because you told the person "It is not open source so we don't have it... Tough". I think you can be a little more diplomatic or at least do a 10 second google search, like I did, before replying in such a caustic way. I may have messed up on a few minor facts and was misled by inaccurate documentation, but at least we "may" have helped this person find a solution. And for that, all this discussion was worth it. Cheers, Nicholas --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > Nicholas, > > There currently exists NO server side support in the current XFree86 > CVS. Juliusz may have every intention of moving the code from > dps.sourceforge.net into the baseline XFree86 CVS at some point > in the future. But currently it ain't there. Probably because, > as far as the webpage is concerned, it still claims it's pre-alpha > stage. And it even mentions that your better off running dgs if > your seriously needing DPS support. > > Alan. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:52:31AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Juliusz, > > > > Is what Alan saying true? Are there no plans to have a server side > DPS > > extension officially in the xfree distribution? I noticed from the > cvs > > activity that the libraries are still being maintained... > > > > Cheers, > > Nicholas > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > Ummm, > > > > > > Excuse me, but you are wrong.... > > > > > > The RELNOTES2 is actually incorrect. There is no extension. That > > > means server side support. There is however client side support. > > > > > > What I mean by server extension, is when you do 'xdpyinfo' and > > > it lists the extensions. DPS is not one of those extensions. > > > > > > Having checked if there's an agent. Yes there is. You need to > > > get the dgs sources. Just goto http://rpmfind.net and whack in > > > 'dgs'. Now this little program provides the dpsnx.agent program > > > which does the equivalent to a server side DPS extension, and > > > uses our client side libraries. > > > > > > As for cygwin.cf there's a BuildDPS NO which doesn't mean an > > > awful lot as nothing uses 'BuildDPS' it's meaningless and should > > > be removed. > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 06:10:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > > > Ummm, > > > > > > > > Excuse me but you are wrong. If you care to read > > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html you will notice the > line > > > that > > > > says: > > > > -initial DPS extension support > > > > If you still doubt me, then check out the xfree cvs repository: > > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dpstk/ or > > > > http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/dps/ > > > > > > > > Now the $40K question is, why isn't this library being built in > the > > > cygwin > > > > distro? Probably no one has attempted to do so, but I'm sure > harold > > > can > > > > tell you what changes to your hosts.dep are necessary to attempt > to > > > build > > > > it, should you decide to embark on the journey to build support in > to > > > your > > > > xfree. > > > > > > > > In fact this extension has been available for use since 4.0.3, > IIRC. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Nicholas > > > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 04:00:51 +0800, Zechy Wong wrote: > > > > > > Hi, something happened when I tried to run texteroids. > > > > > > An X window was open, and when I ran texteroids a black box > > > > > > appeared briefly before disappearing. These are the messages > I > > > got: > > > > > > > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > > Auto-launching DPS NX agent. > > > > > > %% DPS Client Library Warning: > > > > > > FAILED to auto-launch: > > > > > > dpsnx.agent > > > > > > > > > > > > texteroids: DPS is not available. > > > > > > You need an X server with the DPS extension, or a DPS NX > agent. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonder if anyone could help? > > > > > > > > > > That's the Adobe Display PostScript extension. It's not open > source > > > > > so the server extension isn't in Cygwin/XFree86. > > > > > > > > > > Basically. Tough. You can't run that app on this Xserver. > > > > > > > > > > I know the Solaris Xsun server's have, but we don't. > > > > > > > > > > Alan. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 2 20:37:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:37:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020602135604.GG1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020602141757.GJ1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:13:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > Alan, > > I realize this point, but in light of recent debate, I wanted to submit an > inquiry to be updated on the status of his project, and any future plans. > This might be relevent to the list, as it was the whole purpose of the > initial question. Which, by the way, has caused you to rethink your > stance. The whole reason I became so impassioned is because you told the > person "It is not open source so we don't have it... Tough". I think you > can be a little more diplomatic or at least do a 10 second google search, > like I did, before replying in such a caustic way. I may have messed up > on a few minor facts and was misled by inaccurate documentation, but at > least we "may" have helped this person find a solution. And for that, all > this discussion was worth it. Then I apologize to Zechy for misleading him into thinking there wasn't a solution. But as for server side extension - I still don't change my stance. Alan. From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 20:39:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:39:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids (Minor Retraction) In-Reply-To: <20020602141007.GI1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602143311.24464.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:03:54AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > Huh ? > > > > > > libdps in the XFree86 CVS does not depend on "strict motif" at all, > > > in fact it has no dependencies on motif, lesstif or anything 'tif. > > > It all builds straight from the CVS - all open source. > > Yes you are right for the core library, but some additional widgets > > included in addon library require motif: > > > > The source code for libdpstkXm is included with XFree86; however, as > it > > depends on Motif, this library is not built by default. > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > Right. And that's why I'm saying it doesn't depend on them. If you > have them available fine. > > > > There is no DPS extension in XFree86 CVS either. Like I said the > 4.1.0 > > > RELNOTES are wrong. Although, yes, http://dps.sourceforge.net > provides > > > an initial extension for XFree86. But that isn't included in our > > > baseline tree. > > So the release notes are wrong, I wrote this letter before I received > your > > clarification on that... > > > > > What are you ranting about the Open Group for here ??? > > > > > > You seem to have really gone off at a tangent. > > > > Why am I ranting? Because it is highly annoying that they have > forbidden > > using "OpenMotif" on Cygwin/XFree86 when they know full well that > > Cygwin/XFree86 is NOT Microsoft Windows, but a platform of its own > that > > happens to run on top of MS Windows. In any event, if you followed > the > > list, some other porting projects have been hindered by the lack of > > OpenMotif or full Lesstif->Motif compatibility. As I said you can > > disagree, but it is relevant to the project. I mean pressure needs to > be > > put on the so-called "Open Group" to change that policy. > > Huh again. Where did I say I was disagreeing with you. And why don't > you think I follow this list ? I've been on this list for quite some > time. I'm not saying you disagreed, I was responding to your claim that this is an irrelevant discussion. > If you have some bitching to do about "The Open Group" that bitch at > them. We already know the problems we've got here, or help improve > LessTif which is certainly more productive. This is your opinion, and you are welcome to it. The whole point of the rant was to let off steam and to encourage others to become aware of this issue (not everyone has been on the list as long as you, including me, and not everyone reads the entire archive start to finish). Well, why don't search the archives for motif? Again I say, many do not realize that having OpenMotif on cygwin is a good thing and would possible make porting OpenDX much easier. This list id for discussion, and I was merely giving my opinion. However, I say now to others who might read this: Whip off a quick e-mail to the open group and let them know that how you feel regarding their "decision" on OpenMotif. As to why I don't help the lesstif project? I'm afraid I don't have the skills for that (I was being sarcastic when I said I would port OpenMotif to cygwin). I do have the skills for discussing issues and raising awareness... I hoped that, in some small way, my little rant did this. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 2 20:40:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:40:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602141757.GJ1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020602145223.22264.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:13:35AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > Alan, > > > > I realize this point, but in light of recent debate, I wanted to > submit an > > inquiry to be updated on the status of his project, and any future > plans. > > This might be relevent to the list, as it was the whole purpose of the > > initial question. Which, by the way, has caused you to rethink your > > stance. The whole reason I became so impassioned is because you told > the > > person "It is not open source so we don't have it... Tough". I think > you > > can be a little more diplomatic or at least do a 10 second google > search, > > like I did, before replying in such a caustic way. I may have messed > up > > on a few minor facts and was misled by inaccurate documentation, but > at > > least we "may" have helped this person find a solution. And for that, > all > > this discussion was worth it. > > Then I apologize to Zechy for misleading him into thinking there > wasn't a solution. But as for server side extension - I still don't > change my stance. I apologize, too. I didn't get my morning coffee yet and I was a bit grumpy. All better now =]. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 2 20:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:44:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Diego, Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. There are a few hundred subscribers and not all of them want to receive such huge emails. It also puts an unnecessary burden on the mailing list server. In the future please mail a link to the package or post a message asking for someone to contact you privately to arrange a transfer of the package to a public web/ftp server. Thanks, Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Diego Duarte Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:43 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: AmiWM Port >Title: AmiWM 0.20-pl48 >Url: http://www.megaservice.host.sk/AmiWM-0.20pl48-cygwin.tar.gz >Type: Software >Author: Diego Duarte >Email: sunossolaris@hotmail.com >Date: 2002-05-30 >Text: The WorkBench WM ( AmigaPC) ( very very, smaller, (145kb )) From cgf@redhat.com Sun Jun 2 23:21:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 23:21:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently 100K. cgf On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing >list. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 3 00:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 00:03:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This messages from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so and I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than 50 KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 KB. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently 100K. > > cgf > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing > >list. From cgf@redhat.com Mon Jun 3 04:26:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 04:26:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: References: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020603033948.GA8991@redhat.com> Heh. Actually I set it to 100K after the referenced message came in. 100K is standard for some of the other mailing lists on sourceware.org. I can't think of a good reason for having that large a message size in a discussion list, though. cgf On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:37:28PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This messages >from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: >http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html > >I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so and >I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than 50 >KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 KB. > >Thanks, > >Harold > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor >> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >> Subject: Re: AmiWM Port >> >> >> Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently 100K. >> >> cgf >> >> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >> >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing >> >list. From cgf@redhat.com Mon Jun 3 04:54:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 04:54:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: References: <20020603013531.GE16877@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020603034055.GB8991@redhat.com> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:37:28PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so >and I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger >than 50 KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped >to 50 KB. Oops. Sorry. Forgot to say: "Done". cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 3 08:17:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 08:17:00 -0000 Subject: AmiWM Port In-Reply-To: <20020603034055.GB8991@redhat.com> Message-ID: Cool. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 11:41 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:37:28PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > >I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so > >and I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger > >than 50 KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped > >to 50 KB. > > Oops. Sorry. Forgot to say: "Done". > > cgf From jch@pps.jussieu.fr Mon Jun 3 08:32:00 2002 From: jch@pps.jussieu.fr (Juliusz Chroboczek) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 08:32:00 -0000 Subject: Texteroids In-Reply-To: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> (message from Nicholas Wourms on Sun, 2 Jun 2002 07:13:35 -0700 (PDT)) References: <20020602141335.22053.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200206030621.g536LXG59103@helium.pps.jussieu.fr> Dear Nicholas, dear Alan, dear all, The server-side DPS code is not part of XFree86 and will most probably never be. There are two reasons to that. One is fundamental. The server-side DPS code uses the Aladdin Ghostscript interpreter version 6.02, which is not Free software. The plan was to update it to use GNU Ghostscript 6.50, which is Free software, but uses a license (the GPL) which makes it unsuitable for inclusion in XFree86. The other reason is that the code has a bug. I spent three months of hard work trying to track it down, and then decided that life is too short. In short, the interpreter corrupts memory at some point, which later causes the server to crash. If anybody feels like trying to trace it down (something that would make me extremely happy): it is reproducible with GNUstep's benchmarking code. It is also reproducible in any program that uses the NeXT transparency extensions. As long as this bug remains, it is impossible to even think of relying on the DPS extension. With most sincere regards, Juliusz From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Mon Jun 3 10:18:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't launch xterms Message-ID: I'm afraid not. I tried that, I put an error in twmrc, called the menu item, nothing seemed to happen, no output in XWin.log. I wonder where it went. Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:nwourms@yahoo.com] Sent: vrijdag 31 mei 2002 16:47 To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: RE: TWM menus don't launch xterms --- "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" wrote: > > Have you tried to start twm and capture its output? > > twm > /tmp/twm.out 2>/tmp/twm.err & > You can also check XWin.log in /tmp. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From nwourms@yahoo.com Mon Jun 3 12:23:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:23:00 -0000 Subject: logos (was RE: AmiWM Port) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020603112645.35303.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Harold, Sorry to rehash an old discussion, but I just discovered this thread when you mentioned it. I followed it through to conclusion, but it stopped as quickly as it started. Whatever happened to this discussion? Any chance of a new logo being adopted? I personally dislike the current cygwin logo, too. It's a bit bland if you ask me. Maybe it needs the redhat touch, but the logo that was attached to that message rocked. Any chance of adopting it? Cheers, Nicholas --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Chris, > > Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This > messages > from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html > > I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so > and > I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than > 50 > KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 > KB. > > Thanks, > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > > > > Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently > 100K. > > > > cgf > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 > mailing > > >list. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 3 12:45:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:45:00 -0000 Subject: logos (was RE: AmiWM Port) In-Reply-To: <20020603112645.35303.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nicholas, Creating a logo requires a bit of knowledge and initiative on the part of the logo creator. It is one thing to create nice 256 x 256 pixel true color mock-ups, but it is quite another to convert that into a 16 x 16 palettized color icon, a 32 x 32 palettized color icon, a 32 x 32 true color icon, a logo, etc. I don't even know what formats Windows needs. So basically nothing has come from it because we haven't been presented with something that looks good and can be used in icon formats as well. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:nwourms@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:27 AM > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: logos (was RE: AmiWM Port) > > > Harold, > > Sorry to rehash an old discussion, but I just discovered this thread when > you mentioned it. I followed it through to conclusion, but it stopped as > quickly as it started. Whatever happened to this discussion? Any chance > of a new logo being adopted? I personally dislike the current cygwin > logo, too. It's a bit bland if you ask me. Maybe it needs the redhat > touch, but the logo that was attached to that message rocked. Any chance > of adopting it? > > Cheers, > Nicholas > --- Harold Hunt wrote: > > Chris, > > > > Hmm... when did you drop the message size limit to 100 KB? This > > messages > > from 2002/04/06 has a roughly 200 KB attachment: > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00081.html > > > > I looked back at the mailing list archives over the last 5 months or so > > and > > I see no legitimate messages without attachments that were larger than > > 50 > > KB. I therefore request that the message size limit be dropped to 50 > > KB. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:36 PM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Re: AmiWM Port > > > > > > > > > Should lower the message size limit here? I think it's currently > > 100K. > > > > > > cgf > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > > >Don't send 57 KB (or whatever) attachments to the Cygwin/XFree86 > > mailing > > > >list. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Tim.Steen@yellowcorp.com Mon Jun 3 13:16:00 2002 From: Tim.Steen@yellowcorp.com (Tim.Steen) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 13:16:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome 1.4/ntsec question? Message-ID: <4167A237EE5DD111BDCE00805FE633D6080583A0@yelntsmail1.yellowcorp.com> I have a fresh 1.3.10 install of cygwin on Win 2K SP1 w/NTFS. I created a user account using 'mkpasswd' and 'mkgroup' I downloaded current source and patches, and built gnome without errors as per instructions on Obrien's web site. I created a envir. variable 'cygwin=ntsec' using the system control panel app. Using 'startx' to start up a gnome-session I get the following errors. _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root ORBit-ERROR **: Wrong permissions for /tmp/orbit-y1tes aborting... I have searched the archives and and read the faq, but I am still missing something. Any Suggestions? Has anyone had similar problems or success with obrien's gnome patches? From keh112@york.ac.uk Mon Jun 3 16:09:00 2002 From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:09:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms In-Reply-To: <1023103610.13857.ezmlm@cygwin.com> Message-ID: I don't seem to have a /tmp/Xwin.log - is it hiding somewhere else or has nothing gone wrong (unlikely) -- Kirsty Hollingworth "The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers." Sydney J. Harris From flognat@flognat.myip.org Wed Jun 5 05:45:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 05:45:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: / Kirsty Hollingworth wrote: | I don't seem to have a /tmp/Xwin.log - is it hiding somewhere else or has | nothing gone wrong (unlikely) c:\cygdrive\tmp\Xwin.log? This should be created! Hmm is it so bad that it is not even the cygwin x-server firing up or similar?? Send me a screendump of the cygwin xfree-window how far it has come.. *remind me* did you use the latest stuff, do you have other x-servers? Rational Rose? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jun 5 12:41:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 12:41:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't launch xterms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > I'm afraid not. I tried that, I put an error in twmrc, called the menu > item, nothing seemed to happen, no output in XWin.log. I wonder where it > went. XWin.log only contains the log messages from the x-server. Try starting twm from a bash. You should see all messages from twm and the started programs. Or is twm compiled as gui without console? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From keh112@york.ac.uk Wed Jun 5 14:00:00 2002 From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms (long reply) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank-you so much for all your help. I have put in this email just about everything I can think of that might be worth you knowing. On 3 Jun 2002, Andrew Markebo wrote: > / Kirsty Hollingworth wrote: > | I don't seem to have a /tmp/Xwin.log - is it hiding somewhere else or has > | nothing gone wrong (unlikely) > > c:\cygdrive\tmp\Xwin.log? > > This should be created! It is not there - I tried creating an empty file called Xwin.log and it has ignored it. At startup I noticed that Xwin complains that /tmp should be owned by root. As my passwd file only contains an entry for myself chown fails. > > Hmm is it so bad that it is not even the cygwin x-server firing up or > similar?? Send me a screendump of the cygwin xfree-window how far it > has come.. > > *remind me* did you use the latest stuff, do you have other x-servers? > Rational Rose? > I installed cygwin/xfree in October and updated in December. It is rather difficult to update which is why it has been done infreqently (download to zip disk, zip disk to linux box, ftp across house network). It fires up fine and I have slightly modified the startxwin.bat to fire up a telnet to our linux box and a copy of xclock as well as the default xterm. The local xterm starts iconified as my usual use for X is as a display for apps on the linux box. The linux box does not run XDCMP and cygwin was installed on a virtually clean Win95 installation. If it does make a difference I required use of Octave which ignored my cygwin and installed its own, in the meantime messing up my cygwin settings (reset cygwinroot). Running the cygwin setup seemed to fix this - however the problem has been around before this, however I was too busy with work to attempt to fix it and put up with closing Xwin down and restarting it if I accidently killed my console window. THings run from this locally appear correctly. I usually (but not always) have windows cdplayer playing a cd. A quick list of what I have installed (off the top of my head): Norton Antivirus 2001 (from Norton SystemWorks) R (statistics package) Cygwin/Xfree Octave(currently disabled) Gnuplot (came with Octave) SPSS (statisics package) MS Excel and Powerpoint 97/2000 viewers Standard bundled MS stuff Some random things for burning CD's on my CD burner Winzip 8.0 (unregistered) Acrobat (4 or 5 can't remember) I possibly have a windows version of Ghostview. I am going to have to update my installation soon as I need a local version of LaTeX - when I do, do you think it is worth trying another window manager? As I mentioned to someone I quite like WindowMaker and was thinking of installing that but if the problem is not with twm I want to sort one problem first before I introduce ten more! As I said at the top thank you very much for helping me. -- Kirsty Hollingworth "The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers." Sydney J. Harris From flognat@flognat.myip.org Wed Jun 5 15:24:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:24:00 -0000 Subject: TWM menus don't start xterms (long reply) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Evening! *bonk* regarding Xwin.log, it is created in newer versions of Xfree, quite a bit of work is done since x-mas, and nowadays it is installable from setup.exe. | zip disk, zip disk to linux box, ftp across house network). It fires up | fine and I have slightly modified the startxwin.bat to fire up a telnet to | our linux box and a copy of xclock as well as the default xterm. The | local xterm starts iconified as my usual use for X is as a display for | apps on the linux box. The linux box does not run XDCMP and cygwin was Okay, you can run x-applications on linux, and display them on your PC? Have you tried twm/any other window manager from the linux-box, to display them on your PC. Could be a cygwin limitation on win95 that the twm-binary needs, incompability in signalling or similar.. | As I said at the top thank you very much for helping me. Youre welcome ;-) The gentleman(?) in me does anything for the female beauty.. or.. yeah you know :-) /Andy p.s. I have always wondered if I would have helped a person with a male-like name this much.. to be honest.. probably, but just thinking of it for the fun of it :-) From ecognito1@earthcorp.com Thu Jun 6 06:54:00 2002 From: ecognito1@earthcorp.com (E) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 06:54:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering what the status was of using the cygwin xfree server in a multi-windowed mode (ie Opening a MS-Windows window for each X client window instead of a single window for the X desktop). I've browsed the FAQ, website, and did a few searches of the archives for this list, but couldn't find anything recent or definitive on the status of this feature. Thanks. E. From volkwein@ibk.baug.ethz.ch Thu Jun 6 07:12:00 2002 From: volkwein@ibk.baug.ethz.ch (Volkwein, Axel) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:12:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-Xfree86 remote on Solaris with Java3D/OpenGL Message-ID: Hello, I just discovered this amazing x-server for cygwin and immediately used it for everything. But just one thing is not working: I open a ssh/X-session to my solaris-8-workstation and run a program written in Java using the Java3D-Environment which is -as far as i know- written based on OpenGl. The application starts without any errormessage (Yippie) but does not show me the 3D-structure. Does anyone have a glue? Thank you in advance for an answer Axel From sb@dod.no Thu Jun 6 07:49:00 2002 From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Logon to RedHat 7.2 References: <001e01c1fc45$849c18d0$b4f952c7@ember> Message-ID: <87hekhbjji.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> >>>>> Alexander Gottwald : > Is access from nonlocal machine allowed? Some distributions install > xdm/kdm/gdm in a configuration where only local clients are allowed > to connect. I know that debian testing and RedHat 7.2 does this. My guess is that all distributions does this for security reasons. From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jun 6 11:54:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:54:00 -0000 Subject: Performance KDE 2.2.2 beta1 In-Reply-To: <3CEE1BFD.9C9DA813@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <010b01c20cd4$13c8c500$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > The startup of KDE takes more than a minute on my IBM Thinkpad. (using startkde.simple) How long does windows need to come up ? I have seen 10 minutes with many installed apps/services and full office installation on win2k. > How much of it can be expected to be faster with future releases (it does not find a lot of stuff > where expected) You should send more infos. General you find some infos on cygwin.kde.org/kde2.php Ralf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jun 6 12:08:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:08:00 -0000 Subject: significant delay in xinit detected In-Reply-To: <000b01c208be$3d381810$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <011301c20cdf$b8723d10$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi Harold, relating to the subject I've found some details: In xinit.c/startserver() I found the following comment /* * kludge to avoid race with TCP, giving server time to * set his socket options before we try to open it, * either use the 15 second timeout, or await SIGUSR1. * * If your machine is substantially slower than 15 seconds, * you can easily adjust this value. */ alarm (15); The problem is that if someone uses an .xserverrc file, which starts the xserver as a sub process, the signal SIGUSR1 never comes to xinit and xinit runs into the timeout. A solution for this is 1) avoid a sub shell in .xserverrc : $cat ~/.xserverrc exec X instead of $cat ~/.xserverrc X This is described in some older docus like http://www.stllinux.org/meeting_notes/1997/0619/startx.html or 2) adding the options in the server part of startx $ startx -- I've taken a look into the cygwin/xfree user guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting-startx and found nothing about this topic. What do you mean, should this not be added to the startx section (at least solution 1)? Regards Ralf > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ralf Habacker > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:14 PM > To: Kde-Cygwin; Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: RE: significant delay in xinit detected > > > > > while working with kde/cygwin and xfree/cygwin I recognized a significant > > timeout of xinit, after starting the x server and before starting the x > > client relevant stuff. It seems that xinit goes into a timeout while > > waiting for > > the X process, because the delay does not depend on how long the > xserver needs > > (I recognized this on a very fast machine, on which the xserver > only needs 1/2 > > second to start). xinit waits then 5 seconds before starting the .xinitrc > > script. > > Looking a little deeper into the source shows that the timeout is > about 15 sec, > not only 5, and it seems that xinit does not recognizes the running x process. > > Ralf > > From philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr Thu Jun 6 12:59:00 2002 From: philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr (Philippe Bastiani) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:59:00 -0000 Subject: Conflict between a terminal and the window manager Message-ID: <001801c20d61$b74fe310$84acf9c1@JUPITER> I noted the following problem: after an input of caracters in a terminal (rxvt or xterm), I cannot close this one any more properly: the window is not closed... In fact, after a 'close' command of fvwm2, the task manager of Windows shows that the process tcsh.exe (or bash.exe) is not destroyed... My config: - Windows XP - latest releases of cygwin, xfree, fvwm, rxvt, ... Philippe Bastiani PS: all my excuses but yesterday I sent this message in the wrong mailing list! From lhall@rfk.com Thu Jun 6 13:14:00 2002 From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:14:00 -0000 Subject: use CygWin/XFree in XDMCP under Windows 98 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020606100717.03772eb8@pop.ma.ultranet.com> At 05:33 AM 6/6/2002, EXT / EUREKA LE CUNFF Laurent wrote: >Hello, >I do not manage to make function CygWin/XFree in XDMCP under Windows 98. The >Xfree window appears with the grayed bottom but that does not go further. I >does not obtain the banner of login . >The same installation under Windows NT or 2000 functions very well. Does a >solution exist? Indeed, I cannot for certain reasons technique pass these >stations under NT or 2000? > >Thank you. Wrong list. Please review the available lists and their mandate at http://cygwin.com/lists.html before posting. I've redirected the discussion to the correct list. Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX From cgf-noreply@cygwin.com Thu Jun 6 14:22:00 2002 From: cgf-noreply@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:22:00 -0000 Subject: use cygwin/xfree in XDMCP under Windows 98 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020606144928.GH32424@redhat.com> Wrong mailing list. Redirected. On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:33:33AM +0200, EXT / EUREKA LE CUNFF Laurent wrote: >Hello, >I do not manage to make function CygWin/XFree in XDMCP under Windows 98. The >Xfree window appears with the grayed bottom but that does not go further. I >does not obtain the banner of login . >The same installation under Windows NT or 2000 functions very well. Does a >solution exist? Indeed, I cannot for certain reasons technique pass these >stations under NT or 2000? > >Thank you. > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr Thu Jun 6 15:04:00 2002 From: philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr (Philippe Bastiani) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:04:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? References: Message-ID: <001b01c20d8b$92124000$bc8ef8c1@JUPITER> Hi, Sorry for the delay of my reply... As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the mouse pointer is on those. Line n??2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. Line n??3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Harold Hunt" ?? : "Philippe Bastiani" ; "cygx" Envoy?? : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > Philippe, > > You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a heck > of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. > Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that show > a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. > > Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can > copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP with > Alt+PrintScreen. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM > > To: Cygwin > > Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non > > standard ! > > > > Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the > > mouse pointer is on these! > > > > Philippe Bastiani > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: toto.PNG Type: image/png Size: 22747 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 6 17:04:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:04:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Message-ID: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Philippe, Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. Harold Philippe Bastiani said: > Hi, > > Sorry for the delay of my reply... > > As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the mouse > pointer is on those. > > > Line n??2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. > Line n??3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "Harold Hunt" > ?? : "Philippe Bastiani" ; "cygx" > > Envoy?? : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 > Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > Philippe, > > > > You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a > heck > > of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. > > Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that > show > > a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. > > > > Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can > > copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP > with > > Alt+PrintScreen. > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani > > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM > > > To: Cygwin > > > Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non > > > standard ! > > > > > > Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the > > > mouse pointer is on these! > > > > > > Philippe Bastiani > > > > > > > From richard.campbell@air2web.com Thu Jun 6 17:12:00 2002 From: richard.campbell@air2web.com (Richard Campbell) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:12:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Message-ID: >Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a >mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that >Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. In the first column (cygwin/xfree86) there is a mouse cursor in the 2nd and 3rd shots...twm just kinda sucks that way (in the 2nd shot, look at the large x just above the "fermer" tool tip). -Richard Campbell. From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Jun 6 18:37:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:37:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? In-Reply-To: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020606201348.53078.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> People, For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. Thanks, Nicholas --- Harold L Hunt wrote: > Philippe, > > Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's > not a > mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that > Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. > > Harold > > Philippe Bastiani said: > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry for the delay of my reply... > > > > As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the > mouse > > pointer is on those. > > > > > > Line n??2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. > > Line n??3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, > > > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > > De : "Harold Hunt" > > ?? : "Philippe Bastiani" ; "cygx" > > > > Envoy?? : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 > > Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > Philippe, > > > > > > You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give > a > > heck > > > of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. > > > Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two > that > > show > > > a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. > > > > > > Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You > can > > > copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows > XP > > with > > > Alt+PrintScreen. > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Philippe > Bastiani > > > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM > > > > To: Cygwin > > > > Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen > seem non > > > > standard ! > > > > > > > > Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified > when the > > > > mouse pointer is on these! > > > > > > > > Philippe Bastiani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Thu Jun 6 18:42:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:42:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? References: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> <20020606201348.53078.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CFFD28F.8060202@ece.gatech.edu> Nicholas Wourms wrote: > People, > > For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of > us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. actually, bzip2 would probably not do a very good job compressing a png. (I said PROBABLY. No need to post 27 counterexamples). However, pngcrush would probably help. --Chuck From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 6 19:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:00:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? In-Reply-To: <000d01c20d98$34f840b0$afb0f8c1@JUPITER> Message-ID: Philippe forgot to cc the mailing list on this one. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Philippe Bastiani [mailto:philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr] > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:25 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? > > > Hi, > > > Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? > There's not > a > > mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that > > Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. > > The 'Print Screen' command of WinXP hides the mouse pointer :) > Cygwin/XFree86 hides/unhides the cursor correctly :) > > a+ > > Philippe > > From jehan@bravobrava.com Thu Jun 6 19:08:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:08:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing Message-ID: <3CFFF884.5020309@bravobrava.com> Hi, I'm on Win2k SP5. I use XFree in fullscreen mode via the DOS batch file.In a specific case, XWin is never showing: 1. Launch XWin via the batch (didn't try via the sh script) in fullscreen mode 2. Before the XWin screen shows up, click on another window (this moves the focus from XWin to that window) 3. Notice that at some point the window you clicked on loses it's focus (blue titlebar becomes gray) 4. Notice that at the same time, the mouse cursor get centered on the screen (as XWin would have done) 5. Notice the X window never shows up and that no XWin button appears in the taskbar. 6. Open the task manager, XWin is running. result: there is no way to go in XWin (no taskbar button) nor any to close it (as opposed to kill it) I can reproduce this bug any time following those steps. Jehan From jehan_something@hotmail.com Thu Jun 6 19:21:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:21:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released Message-ID: <3CFFFA5E.4090204@hotmail.com> Hi again, I know that this bug has already been mentionned (April 18 from bkarnd) but there hasn't been much followup so I would like to know what is the status on it: 1. press and hold both shift at the same. 2. release one of them (lets call it shift1) 3. release the other one. 4. press a letter: notice that you get the capitalize version (or, if capslock is on, the lowercase one). 5. press and release shift1. 6. press a letter: now you get the correct case. Jehan From rrschulz@cris.com Thu Jun 6 19:56:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:56:00 -0000 Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? In-Reply-To: <20020606201348.53078.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200206061908.g56J84U31698@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606183501.02079dc0@pop3.cris.com> At 13:13 2002-06-06, Nicholas Wourms wrote: >People, > >For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of >us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. > >Thanks, >Nicholas Nicholas, Witness: % bzip2 -k toto.PNG % ls -l toto.PNG toto.PNG.bz2 -rwxrwxrwx 1 Administ None 22747 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG* -rwxrwxrwx 1 Administ None 22450 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG.bz2 Less than 300 bytes save. More would be saved by appropriate trimming of quoted message bodies. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA From rrschulz@cris.com Thu Jun 6 22:57:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:57:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing In-Reply-To: <3CFFF884.5020309@bravobrava.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606184025.02222a78@pop3.cris.com> Jehan, Use ALT-Tab and you can get (back) to the full-screen X server window. Personally, I like this. The details of the comings and goings of the full-screen X window are perhaps not ideal, but it's nice that it goes away totally when it's not in front and that I really get the full extent of the monitor without any window frame / border and controls. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 17:04 2002-06-06, Jehan Bing wrote: >Hi, > >I'm on Win2k SP5. I use XFree in fullscreen mode via the DOS batch file.In >a specific case, XWin is never showing: > >1. Launch XWin via the batch (didn't try via the sh script) in fullscreen mode >2. Before the XWin screen shows up, click on another window (this moves >the focus from XWin to that window) > >3. Notice that at some point the window you clicked on loses it's focus >(blue titlebar becomes gray) >4. Notice that at the same time, the mouse cursor get centered on the >screen (as XWin would have done) >5. Notice the X window never shows up and that no XWin button appears in >the taskbar. >6. Open the task manager, XWin is running. > >result: there is no way to go in XWin (no taskbar button) nor any to close >it (as opposed to kill it) > >I can reproduce this bug any time following those steps. > > Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 02:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 02:32:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606184025.02222a78@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: Randall, Jehan is indeed talking about a real problem where XWin does not successfully register its window. The result is that there is no window entry on the taskbar and you cannot switch to the application via Alt+Tab. This is a bug and I appreciate the easily reproducible test case. I'll take a look at this. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Randall R Schulz > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 PM > To: Jehan Bing; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing > > > Jehan, > > Use ALT-Tab and you can get (back) to the full-screen X server window. > > Personally, I like this. The details of the comings and goings of the > full-screen X window are perhaps not ideal, but it's nice that it > goes away > totally when it's not in front and that I really get the full > extent of the > monitor without any window frame / border and controls. > > > Randall Schulz > Mountain View, CA USA > > > > At 17:04 2002-06-06, Jehan Bing wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm on Win2k SP5. I use XFree in fullscreen mode via the DOS > batch file.In > >a specific case, XWin is never showing: > > > >1. Launch XWin via the batch (didn't try via the sh script) in > fullscreen mode > >2. Before the XWin screen shows up, click on another window (this moves > >the focus from XWin to that window) > > > >3. Notice that at some point the window you clicked on loses it's focus > >(blue titlebar becomes gray) > >4. Notice that at the same time, the mouse cursor get centered on the > >screen (as XWin would have done) > >5. Notice the X window never shows up and that no XWin button appears in > >the taskbar. > >6. Open the task manager, XWin is running. > > > >result: there is no way to go in XWin (no taskbar button) nor > any to close > >it (as opposed to kill it) > > > >I can reproduce this bug any time following those steps. > > > > Jehan > From rrschulz@cris.com Fri Jun 7 04:46:00 2002 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:46:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606184025.02222a78@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020606190801.02084ce8@pop3.cris.com> Harold, I see. I still like the way it behaves... When it behaves, which for me it always has. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 19:00 2002-06-06, Harold Hunt wrote: >Randall, > >Jehan is indeed talking about a real problem where XWin does not >successfully register its window. The result is that there is no window >entry on the taskbar and you cannot switch to the application via Alt+Tab. > >This is a bug and I appreciate the easily reproducible test case. I'll take >a look at this. > >Harold From jehan@bravobrava.com Fri Jun 7 04:52:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Fullscreen X not always showing References: Message-ID: <3D0018C0.4090404@bravobrava.com> Harold Hunt wrote: >Randall, > >Jehan is indeed talking about a real problem where XWin does not >successfully register its window. The result is that there is no window >entry on the taskbar and you cannot switch to the application via Alt+Tab. > >This is a bug and I appreciate the easily reproducible test case. I'll take >a look at this. > Well, I was going to write a bigger explanation, but since you obviously can reproduce it. I'll skip this part :) >>Personally, I like this. The details of the comings and goings of the >>full-screen X window are perhaps not ideal, but it's nice that it >>goes away >>totally when it's not in front and that I really get the full >>extent of the >>monitor without any window frame / border and controls. >> >> Would it be possible to have a mode between normal and fullscreen? I'm in fullscreen also because I don't want the window frame. But I would still like to be able to see my taskbar (to see the notification icon in the systray for instance) or to see the content of both a X window and a Windows window. Would it be possible to have a window mode but without the decoration (i.e without the WS_CAPTION, WS_SYSMENU and WS_MINIMIZEBOX style)? Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 04:52:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. An attempt has been made to fix the problem where the Cygwin/XFree86 window would not show up if you ran XWin.exe with the -fullscreen parameter and gave the window focus to another application before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed. -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Fri Jun 7 05:54:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 05:54:00 -0000 Subject: french keymap and numpad Message-ID: <3D004B85.200804E9@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Hello. I have installed yesterday cygwin-free on my Win2000 box, to access to a sun enterprise server with xdm connection (as if I where on a X-Terminal). To do this, I use 'XWin -query -once'. Then, I've got the login prompt of the server, but my french keyboard is seen as an US one. After some search, I've found this message : http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-05/msg00028.html I've generated the file /tmp/fr.xkm with the xmodmap.fr file found at http://www.gotti.org and I now use this command : 'XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query -once' And hurray, my french keyboard is now recognised by the Unix server. The only trouble is that the numerical paddel is not responding. More exactly, it's beave as if the Num_Lock key wasn't regognised. What can I do to solve this ? Thank you. Gilles Civario. From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Fri Jun 7 08:49:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:49:00 -0000 Subject: A couple of patches Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFA6@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Attached are a couple of patches. These fix a few bugs that were annoying me in XFree86 4.2.0. I can't get access to CVS at the moment so this might be fixed in there - if so then feel free to ignore them ;) 1) Key strokes when X loses / gains focus. winkeydb.c now tracks which keys are up and down and releases all down keys when focus is lost. Also, it kills phantom key up messages being received (typcially when ALT-TAB'ing to the X server). This was causing (a) ICE to switch between windows and (b) bash to see a tab and try to auto-complete causing cygwin to thrash my hard disk looking for all executables in my path ;( 2) emulate3buttons didn't work correctly in single screen mode as InitOutput set the timeout to TRUE (1) rather than the default (50) or user supplied value. This made getting the middle button a matter of good timing ;) Side note - I had to comment out the Beep() call in winkeydb.c as this was causing X to hang. The comments just above the call about the arguments being ignored are not true - under Win NT / 2000 the arguments are used (according to MSDN at least ;)). Regards Stuart -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: emulate3button.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 401 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: keystate.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2716 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 08:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: A couple of patches In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFA6@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Now that is what I like to see: on a guy's first post to the list he sends two bug reports and two patches. Outstanding! I've applied both patches (with formatting fixes) and I'll release a new server binary shortly. I also added a patch for the, "press both shifts, release both shifts, input remains shifted" bug. > Side note - I had to comment out the Beep() call in winkeydb.c as this was > causing X to hang. You must be looking at some old source... the function has been changed to MessageBeep. The comments have also been updated to indicate that Beep is a really bad idea. Thanks for the patches, Harold P.S. Regarding the three button emulation patch, I can only say, how embarrassing. I can't believe I have not caught that one on my own. > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Adamson > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:33 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: A couple of patches > > > Attached are a couple of patches. These fix a few bugs that were annoying > me in XFree86 4.2.0. > I can't get access to CVS at the moment so this might be fixed in > there - if > so then feel > free to ignore them ;) > > 1) Key strokes when X loses / gains focus. winkeydb.c now tracks > which keys > are up and down > and releases all down keys when focus is lost. Also, it kills phantom > key up messages > being received (typcially when ALT-TAB'ing to the X server). This was > causing (a) ICE to > switch between windows and (b) bash to see a tab and try to > auto-complete > causing cygwin to > thrash my hard disk looking for all executables in my path ;( > > > 2) emulate3buttons didn't work correctly in single screen mode as > InitOutput > set the timeout to > TRUE (1) rather than the default (50) or user supplied value. > This made > getting the middle > button a matter of good timing ;) > > Side note - I had to comment out the Beep() call in winkeydb.c as this was > causing X to hang. The comments just above the call about the arguments > being ignored are not true - under > Win NT / 2000 the arguments are used (according to MSDN at least ;)). > > > Regards > > > Stuart > > From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Fri Jun 7 10:42:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:42:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A402@ldnisp14.evolution.net> It appears that windows isn't sending us a WM_KEYUP message for the release of the first shift key. Maybe what we need to do is to call GetKeyState() when we see a shift key release and fake a release of the other key if required (can use the key state table in my patch yesterday to see if we think the other shift key is still down). Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Jehan [mailto:jehan_something@hotmail.com] > Sent: 07 June 2002 01:12 > To: cygwin-xfree > Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released > > > Hi again, > > I know that this bug has already been mentionned (April 18 > from bkarnd) > but there hasn't been much followup so I would like to know > what is the > status on it: > > 1. press and hold both shift at the same. > 2. release one of them (lets call it shift1) > 3. release the other one. > 4. press a letter: notice that you get the capitalize version (or, if > capslock is on, the lowercase one). > 5. press and release shift1. > 6. press a letter: now you get the correct case. > > Jehan > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 10:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. Stuart Adamson's patches have been applied: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00056.html Stuart's patches cover: 1) Releasing all pressed keys when XWin.exe loses focus 2) Discarding some bogus Alt key releases (I think) when we Alt+Tab out of XWin.exe 3) Fixing a typo in InitOutput.c set an infinite timeout for three button emulation when the user specified a timeout value for a single screen. In addition, I have fixed: 1) Pressing both shifts then releasing both shifts leaves all input shifted. -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 11:40:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:40:00 -0000 Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released Message-ID: <200206071254.g57CsjW36888@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Stuart, Actually, my fix for this was a little easier. All I did was enter a fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT... I set the fixup to KEY_ShiftL. That seemed to take care of the problem. Harold Stuart Adamson said: > It appears that windows isn't sending us a WM_KEYUP message for the release > of > the first shift key. > > Maybe what we need to do is to call GetKeyState() when we see a shift key > release > and fake a release of the other key if required (can use the key state table > in my > patch yesterday to see if we think the other shift key is still down). > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jehan [mailto:jehan_something@hotmail.com] > > Sent: 07 June 2002 01:12 > > To: cygwin-xfree > > Subject: [BUG] Shift key not released > > > > > > Hi again, > > > > I know that this bug has already been mentionned (April 18 > > from bkarnd) > > but there hasn't been much followup so I would like to know > > what is the > > status on it: > > > > 1. press and hold both shift at the same. > > 2. release one of them (lets call it shift1) > > 3. release the other one. > > 4. press a letter: notice that you get the capitalize version (or, if > > capslock is on, the lowercase one). > > 5. press and release shift1. > > 6. press a letter: now you get the correct case. > > > > Jehan > > > From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 11:52:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 References: Message-ID: <3D00D61E.9070401@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > An attempt has been made to fix the problem where the Cygwin/XFree86 window > would not show up if you ran XWin.exe with the -fullscreen parameter > and gave the window focus to another application before the Cygwin/XFree86 > window was displayed. Reporting success. But I have a question: for consistency with Windows behavior, would it not be better to put an button in the taskbar instead of stiling the focus? Jehan From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 12:24:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 12:24:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 References: Message-ID: <3D00D65A.7020907@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > 1) Pressing both shifts then releasing both shifts leaves all input shifted. Reporting success there too. Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 14:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:02:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 Message-ID: <200206071742.g57HgJi216924@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> I don't understand what you mean about putting a button in the Windows taskbar. The desired behavior is that we *do* put a button in the Windows taskbar. If you are seeing a case in which the button does not appear, then that is a bug. As for stealing focus, I'm not sure what you mean again. For DirectDraw fullscreen engines I was passing SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when we created the window... I did that because we weren't really showing our window, per se, as we were just using a DirectDraw surface that covered the entire screen. It turns out that that was not the flag to use. So, I switched to SW_SHOWNORMAL, of which MSDN says, "An application should specify this flag when displaying the window for the first time." The ideal situation would be that we would pass the nShowCmd parameter of WinMain to ShowWindow, but it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to propogate this value to the place where it is needed in XWin.exe. Alternatively, I now see another flag, SW_SHOWDEFAULT, that looks like it may have the same effect as passing nShowCmd to ShowWindow. I could give SW_SHOWDEFAULT a try and see if that improves things. What do you think? I suppose I should release that as a test release first so that ordinary users don't have to get it if it is not an improvement. By the way, the docs I'm reading are here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/reference/functions/shellexecute.asp This doc doesn't only apply to the ShowWindow flags, but it has the same information as all the other docs on them. Harold Jehan said: > Harold Hunt wrote: > > An attempt has been made to fix the problem where the Cygwin/XFree86 window > > would not show up if you ran XWin.exe with the -fullscreen parameter > > and gave the window focus to another application before the Cygwin/XFree86 > > window was displayed. > > Reporting success. > But I have a question: for consistency with Windows behavior, would it > not be better to put an button in the taskbar instead of stiling the focus? > > Jehan > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 18:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:21:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-4 Message-ID: <200206071743.g57Hhbi21434@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> Jehan, Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. Harold Jehan said: > Harold Hunt wrote: > > 1) Pressing both shifts then releasing both shifts leaves all input shifted. > > Reporting success there too. > > Jehan > > From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 19:59:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 19:59:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-3 References: <200206071742.g57HgJi216924@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3D00FE28.10606@hotmail.com> Harold L Hunt wrote: > I don't understand what you mean about putting a button in the Windows > taskbar. The desired behavior is that we *do* put a button in the Windows > taskbar. If you are seeing a case in which the button does not appear, then > that is a bug. Well, from the bug previously, I assumed that you were either showing the window or putting a button in the taskbar but not both. My mistake. > As for stealing focus, I'm not sure what you mean again. If you do the steps from the bug, XWin appears in the front and becomes the active window. Usually, when you launch a slow application (Visual Studio, for instance), and select another window before the application shows up, the application will stay in the background, i.e, the focus stays on the window you clicked on. > For DirectDraw > fullscreen engines I was passing SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when we created the > window... I did that because we weren't really showing our window, per se, as > we were just using a DirectDraw surface that covered the entire screen. It > turns out that that was not the flag to use. So, I switched to SW_SHOWNORMAL, > of which MSDN says, "An application should specify this flag when displaying > the window for the first time." > > The ideal situation would be that we would pass the nShowCmd parameter of > WinMain to ShowWindow, but it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to > propogate this value to the place where it is needed in XWin.exe. > Alternatively, I now see another flag, SW_SHOWDEFAULT, that looks like it may > have the same effect as passing nShowCmd to ShowWindow. > > I could give SW_SHOWDEFAULT a try and see if that improves things. What do > you think? I suppose I should release that as a test release first so that > ordinary users don't have to get it if it is not an improvement. Well, I'm not very familiar with the innards of Windows even less with DirectX. My understanding of SW_SHOWNORMAL vs SW_SHOWDEFAULT is that SW_SHOWNORMAL will overwrite the settings at launch. I mean, in a shortcut for instance, one can specify if the window starts normal, minimized or maximized. My guess is that SHOWNORMAL will always display a normal window, what ever this setting while SW_SHOWDEFAULT will repect the setting. I don't think it will change anything about the focus. Maybe a fullscreen DirectX application automatically takes the focus... Yes, looks like it. I just tried with Unreal Tournament (DirectX) and Quake III (OpenGL) and both take the focus back. So it's not a bug, it's the normal behavior of a fullscreen application. It was not big deal anyway, it was just a thought. Thanks for looking at it. Jehan From jehan@bravobrava.com Fri Jun 7 20:33:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 20:33:00 -0000 Subject: Building XWin only Message-ID: <3D010105.6090706@bravobrava.com> Hi, I would like to try a quick hack in XWin. So I follow the instruction in http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. But then, it rebuild everything everytime. Is there a way to rebuild XWin without having to redo everything (no clean, no doc, no fonts, no programs execpt XWin, ....)? Jehan From kkobb@skylinecorp.com Fri Jun 7 20:55:00 2002 From: kkobb@skylinecorp.com (Kevin Kobb) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 20:55:00 -0000 Subject: app-defaults location Message-ID: <000001c20e58$d76b9ca0$9501a8c0@SkylineCorp.net> Hello all, Just downloaded complete Cygwin/XFree86 package from mirror site, and did install from local directory. Starting up with an out of the box C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat, it seems as though xcalc, xfontsel are broken. They start, but don't display correctly. After a little investigation, I found the install creates a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/app-defaults directory. Copying the XCalc, XFontSel, ... files from there to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults makes everything display correctly. This is only my observation in the hopes it might be of help to somebody. I am not an expert at Cygwin or X, so if I am screwing this up myself, please forgive me. I do appreciate the work people have put into this project, and would like to contribute what I can. Thanks. From iburrell@znark.com Fri Jun 7 21:52:00 2002 From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:52:00 -0000 Subject: Building XWin only References: <3D010105.6090706@bravobrava.com> Message-ID: <3D011F40.9010702@znark.com> Jehan Bing wrote: > > I would like to try a quick hack in XWin. So I follow the instruction in > http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. But then, it > rebuild everything everytime. Is there a way to rebuild XWin without > having to redo everything (no clean, no doc, no fonts, no programs > execpt XWin, ....)? > The config files in xc/config/cf control what is built. Create a host.def with your customizations. For example, mine that just builds XWin.exe and supporting libraries looks like: #define BuildLibraries YES #define BuildServersOnly YES #define XnestServer NO #define BuildXprint NO #define XprtServer NO #define XVirtualFramebufferServer NO This is run in a cut down source tree without fonts, docs, or most of the programs. You will need to run a full "make World" from the base directory to rebuild all the Makefiles etc. You can do "make" from xc/programs/Xserver to rebuild all servers or xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin to just do XWin.exe. - Ian -- iburrell@znark.com http://www.znark.com/ From jehan_something@hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 21:55:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:55:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] -nodecoration parameter Message-ID: <3D015C2E.7000204@hotmail.com> Hi, Here is a little patch that adds a "-nodecoration" parameter to XWin. With this parameter on (and no -fullscreen), the XWin window won't have titlebar nor border. It cumulates the advantage of both fullscreen (doesn't waste estate, especially if your taskbar in set to auto-hide) and non-fullscreen mode (Windows window on top of XWin, taskbar and other desktop toolbar still visible, always-on-top (winamp) window are still accessible). Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: decoration.patch URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 21:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:58:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] -nodecoration parameter In-Reply-To: <3D015C2E.7000204@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, Excellent! I've applied this patch as well. I'm going to release this as a test release in a few moments so that I don't overwhelm users with new Cygwin setup.exe packages. Keep feeding me patches guys!! :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:22 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: [PATCH] -nodecoration parameter > > > Hi, > > Here is a little patch that adds a "-nodecoration" parameter to XWin. > With this parameter on (and no -fullscreen), the XWin window won't have > titlebar nor border. It cumulates the advantage of both fullscreen > (doesn't waste estate, especially if your taskbar in set to auto-hide) > and non-fullscreen mode (Windows window on top of XWin, taskbar and > other desktop toolbar still visible, always-on-top (winamp) window are > still accessible). > > Jehan > From nasinha@cisco.com Fri Jun 7 22:02:00 2002 From: nasinha@cisco.com (Nabhonil Sinha) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:02:00 -0000 Subject: Help required for installing tar In-Reply-To: <200206071742.g57HgJi216924@pilot24.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: Hi, I am using Cygwin and find out a lot of good utilities that this software is providing. However I need one help for my project from cygwin software. My problem is as follows:- I have a directory in my C drive say C:\test\. Now I need to create an archive of all the stuff in this directory say testfile.tar. I had a gui which will internally call a command line statement which will create the tar file for me. Now my server has windows2000 server configuration and no other software. Now if I install only the tar package in my system from cygwin software then I am able to do so fine. So is it possible to get the dll or the source code of files other than the whole cygwin software which will only help me in running tar commands from command line. In other words can I use some software or dll which can only invoke tar commands in windows from command line? I will be greatly obliged if I get the source code and the dlls which can do this. Thanks in advance. With regards from Nabhonil Sinha Infosys Technologies Limited. Electronics city, Hosur road, Bangalore -561 229, India. Tel: 91 080 852 0261, 852 0902 fax: 91 080 852 0362, 852 1695 Extn: 1008 From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 22:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:27:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 56 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 56 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 56 package via setup.exe by pointing setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory on your favorite mirror. For example, you could point setup.exe at: http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/testing/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test56.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020607-2235.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) InitOutput.c, win.h, wincreatewnd.c - Add a -nodecoration parameter that creates the Cygwin/XFree86 window that is the same size as the desktop, without a border. The end effect is that you can still get to the taskbar (even with Auto Hide enabled) and easily switch to other application while not giving up any screen space to the title bar, borders, etc. (Jehan) 2) winkeybd.c - Disregard the bogus key releases that we see when losing the focus via Alt+Tab. (Stuart Adamson) 3) win.h, winkeybd.h, winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c - Release all pressed keys when the X server loses the keyboard focus. (Stuart Adamson) 4) InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) 5) wincursor.c - See if we are the foreground window before warping the Windows cursor position. This fixes the new bug that occurs if you launch Cygwin/XFree86 and give another application the focus. In that case the Windows mouse cursor would still jump to the center of the screen, even though the Cygwin/XFree86 window was not active. (Harold Hunt) 6) winkeybd.h - Fix the bug where pressing both shift keys then releasing them both would still cause all keyboard input to be shift-modified. The fix was to set the fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT key to KEY_ShiftL. (Harold Hunt) 7) wincreatewnd.c - Pass SW_SHOWNORMAL instead of SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when running a DirectDraw engine in fullscreen mode. This fixes the bug where launching Cygwin/XFree86 then giving another application the focus before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed would cause Cygwin/XFree86 to never display a window or register a window handle on the Windows taskbar. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 7 23:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:03:00 -0000 Subject: proposing a different aproach for XwinClip (but need some help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Joan, (Link to source code in original mail:) http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-03/msg00128.html This is an interesting idea. For those who don't remember, Joan's approach was to use a tray icon and allow the user to determine when to copy back and forth between Windows and X Windows. I've just now gotten a chance to look at your source code. I'll see if I can incorporate your ideas into xwinclip. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 09:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = caps-lock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gerard, Please try the Test 56 release or the XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 pre-release (they are the same): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00072.html Please report to the mailing list whether the bug is still present or not. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd) > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:55 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys > = caps-lock > > > Hello, > > when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the > currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to > the other > window. > > Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to > manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB. My installation of cygwin > and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to > date. The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm (the HP/UX > xterm seems > unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no > problem with that > using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb). > > Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose) > press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to > switch that > of by hitting the shift keys separately. It happens quite often by > accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT? > > Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at > work now ;-) > > Gerard > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have > received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email > that the intended recipient was not reached. > From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 16:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 16:51:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree performance using 127.0.0.1:0.0 vs computer_ip:0.0 In-Reply-To: <3CC94254.7040800@gamma-rs.ch> Message-ID: Charles, Nope, no explanation. We could speculate that it has something to do with the way that Cygwin handles sockets... but that would all be speculation, right? :) I've never noticed this myself, but I haven't tried it out. I'll give it a shot at some point in the future and let you know if it made any difference for me. Thanks for the tip, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles L. Werner > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:05 AM > To: cygwin-xfree > Subject: cygwin-xfree performance using 127.0.0.1:0.0 vs computer_ip:0.0 > > > Greetings, > > I have noticed a significant speed penelty (factors of 2 to 10) when > using 127.0.0.1 (localhost) versus my machines assigned IP > with cygwiw-xfree. This has been tested and verified for NT-4 SP5 and > Win2K (SP2) on different PCs. > > Any explanation? > remedy? > > Cheers > > Charles > > From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 18:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 18:22:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In case anyone is wondering, this bug is still open and no one on the KDE team has contacted us to tell us why our visual format for 32 bits per pixel is wrong for KDE 3.0. I guess we'll just keep going at 16 bits per pixel forever... Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Kulow [mailto:owner@bugs.kde.org] > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 1:18 AM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit > color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) > > > Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding KDE. > This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has > been received. It is being forwarded to the developers' mailing list for > their attention; they will reply in due course. > > Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): > David Faure > > If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send > it to 40875@bugs.kde.org (and *not* to bugs@bugs.kde.org). > > You can follow your bug's status at http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html > (NOTE: it will take some time until your bug will appear there) > > Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, > unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. > > Stephan Kulow > (administrator, KDE bugs database) From linux@dounsix.co.nz Sat Jun 8 19:19:00 2002 From: linux@dounsix.co.nz (Linux) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:19:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree only 1/2 screen & have lost blue bar at top of all apps Message-ID: <51065A926D41D311899F00A0C9B8E8263ABD7D@localhost> Hi I have two curret issues with Cygwin-xfree 1) When invoking the Gnome interface on my Win2k system from my Redhat 7.2 box all I get is the bottom toolbar and no Icons on the screen. Its been so long that I can't remember what they are. I think Start here, Trash etc. When I open some applications then I get the Icons and no bottom tool bar. I use the XDM xwin -query xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -from command. Any clues? 2) I seem to have lost the top blue bar at the top of applications that are launched. When an application is launched it goes to the top left of the screen an I can't seem to shift it. Again any help would be gratefully appreciated. Many thanks Mike This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com From bastian@kde.org Sat Jun 8 19:53:00 2002 From: bastian@kde.org (Waldo Bastian) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:53:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200206072303.06257.bastian@kde.org> Hi Harold, Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I guess there isn't that much changed in KDE 3.0 that would really explain this behaviour. However, the change from KDE 2 to KDE 3 also implies a change from Qt2 to Qt3, I don't know what exactly has changed in Qt3 pixmap handling but it seems that XRENDER support for alphablending was added. I looked at your screenshots and it struck me that _some_ icons did show up. So If I had to make an educated guess I would say that it is related to some sort of alpha-channel problem. I would then assume that the icons in the screenshots that show up do so because they happen to have no alpha channel. Cheers, Waldo On Friday 07 June 2002 10:02 pm, Harold Hunt wrote: > In case anyone is wondering, this bug is still open and no one on the KDE > team has contacted us to tell us why our visual format for 32 bits per > pixel is wrong for KDE 3.0. > > I guess we'll just keep going at 16 bits per pixel forever... -- bastian@kde.org | SuSE Labs KDE Developer | bastian@suse.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 8 20:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 20:35:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Acknowledgement (Most icons not displayed in 32 bit color mode using XDMCP from Cygwin/XFree86) In-Reply-To: <200206072303.06257.bastian@kde.org> Message-ID: Waldo, Thanks for the reply. > I looked at your screenshots and it struck me that _some_ icons > did show up. > So If I had to make an educated guess I would say that it is > related to some > sort of alpha-channel problem. I would then assume that the icons in the > screenshots that show up do so because they happen to have no > alpha channel. Your idea about the alpha channel sounds plausible. I'm just wondering if something in our visuals description is off... perhaps that could cause the alpha channel to not work correctly. Did you get a chance to look at the visuals information that I listed for Cygwin/XFree86 and a commercial X server in the bug history (dated Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:36:48): http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html If someone could take a glance at the visuals (and pixmap formats) and tell me if they are way off I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Harold From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sat Jun 8 21:01:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 21:01:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor Message-ID: <3D02988A.3010707@hotmail.com> Hi again Harold, Here is another patch. It's about the windows mouse cursor. - It maybe just a matter of preferences but for me, I prefer if the windows cursor is hidden in the client area of X if it isn't active. I personnally find it ugly to have two mouse cursors on top of each other :p. It's then not necessary to show/hide the mouse upon (de)activation. This simplifies the code a bit. - Moreover, the cursor state is global to the application, not to each window. So I made fCursor a global variable, which simplifies the code more (doesn't care about ScreenPrivLast anymore). Potentially, we could get rid of fCursor altogether by using GetCursorInfo instead (don't know about performance issues though). - Last, WM_NCMOUSEMOVE calls the default winproc. This should fix the min/max/close button highlight problem on WinXP (Although I don't have XP so I can't test) Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: cursor.patch URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 07:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor In-Reply-To: <3D02988A.3010707@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, > - Last, WM_NCMOUSEMOVE calls the default winproc. This should fix > the min/max/close button highlight problem on WinXP (Although I don't > have XP so I can't test) That's an excellent catch. I went back and read the Platform SDK docs about WM_NCMOUSEMOVE: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/winui /windowsuserinterface/userinput/mouseinput/mouseinputreference/mouseinputmes sages/wm_ncmousemove.asp As I thought, the documentation for WM_NCMOUSEMOVE does say that you are supposed to return 0 if you process that message. However, they fail to mention that things such as button highlighting are handled by DefWindowProc, which you still need to call if you want to preserve that default behavior. This document gave me some indications that this was the case: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/winui /windowsuserinterface/userinput/mouseinput/aboutmouseinput.asp One thing that is not entirely clear is whether we should call DefWindowProc, then return 0, or if we should just 'break' after our processing of the message and return whatever DefWindowProc returns. I've opted for the latter, for now. > - Moreover, the cursor state is global to the application, not to > each window. So I made fCursor a global variable, which simplifies the > code more (doesn't care about ScreenPrivLast anymore). Potentially, we > could get rid of fCursor altogether by using GetCursorInfo instead > (don't know about performance issues though). Making the cursor state a global variable is probably a good idea; or, we could at least make it a static inside winWindowProc if it is not accessed elsewhere. This would take care of the cursor hiding/showing problems that happen when we have multiple screens. (e.g. XWin -screen 0 640 480 -screen 1 1024 768) I'll go ahead and switch the cursor state variable to a global. > - It maybe just a matter of preferences but for me, I prefer if the > windows cursor is hidden in the client area of X if it isn't active. I > personnally find it ugly to have two mouse cursors on top of each other > :p. It's then not necessary to show/hide the mouse upon (de)activation. > This simplifies the code a bit. This is really a matter of preference. I originally coded it this way, but I got enough complaints that I switched to the current system of not hiding the cursor when we don't have the focus. Maybe we can make this a configuration option? As it is it just reverts to previous functionality, so I'll skip it for now. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 08:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 08:58:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 57 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 57 package via setup.exe by pointing setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory on your favorite mirror. For example, you could point setup.exe at: http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/testing/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test57.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020608-2149.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) winwndproc.c - Call DefWindowProc after processing WM_NCMOUSEMOVE messages. This should fix the highlighting of the minimize and exit buttons in Windows XP. (Jehan Bing) 2) winwndproc.c, win.h, winallpriv.c - Make the cursor state variable, fCursor, a static local variable in winwndproc.c/winWindowProc (), rather than a member variable in the winPrivScreenRec structure. This makes sense because the Windows cursor is either hidden or shown, as Windows does not hide or show the mouse cursor on a per-window basis. This also greatly simplifies the handling of hiding and showing the Windows mouse cursor. (Jehan Bing) Enjoy, Harold From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 10:57:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 10:57:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor References: <3D02988A.3010707@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > As I thought, the documentation for WM_NCMOUSEMOVE does say that you are > supposed to return 0 if you process that message. However, they fail to > mention that things such as button highlighting are handled by > DefWindowProc, which you still need to call if you want to preserve that > default behavior. This document gave me some indications that this was the > case: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/winui > /windowsuserinterface/userinput/mouseinput/aboutmouseinput.asp Yes, that's where I saw it ("Nonclient area mouse messages" section) > One thing that is not entirely clear is whether we should call > DefWindowProc, then return 0, or if we should just 'break' after our > processing of the message and return whatever DefWindowProc returns. I've > opted for the latter, for now. I think this way is better too. We are adding a functionality not replacing it so it's better to let Windows do whatever it would have done if we didn't catch this message, i.e. return what DefWindowProc returns. >> - Moreover, the cursor state is global to the application, not to >>each window. So I made fCursor a global variable, which simplifies the >>code more (doesn't care about ScreenPrivLast anymore). Potentially, we >>could get rid of fCursor altogether by using GetCursorInfo instead >>(don't know about performance issues though). > > > Making the cursor state a global variable is probably a good idea; or, we > could at least make it a static inside winWindowProc if it is not accessed > elsewhere. This would take care of the cursor hiding/showing problems that > happen when we have multiple screens. (e.g. XWin -screen 0 640 480 -screen > 1 1024 768) > > I'll go ahead and switch the cursor state variable to a global. A static would do the job but, by personnally, I don't like static in a function. It's easy to miss the "static" keyword when reading the code which then make it hard to understand (or at least, I missed it. Several times already I spent a few hours to try to understand why the code was working just because I missed it :p). And it has to be initialized by a constant. However, I already got on a couple occasions the pointer visible with no way to hide it. Is it possible for the window to recieve a WM_MOUSEMOVE before initializing the variable (I haven't check the code for that yet)? Because I would think the reference count on ShowMouse has gotten screwed. So we may have to use GetMouseInfo to initialize the value (which I think is better than assuming that the mouse is visible when an application starts anyway). >> - It maybe just a matter of preferences but for me, I prefer if the >>windows cursor is hidden in the client area of X if it isn't active. I >>personnally find it ugly to have two mouse cursors on top of each other >>:p. It's then not necessary to show/hide the mouse upon (de)activation. >>This simplifies the code a bit. > > > This is really a matter of preference. I originally coded it this way, but > I got enough complaints that I switched to the current system of not hiding > the cursor when we don't have the focus. Maybe we can make this a > configuration option? As it is it just reverts to previous functionality, > so I'll skip it for now. Do you remember why would people want to have two cursors? To me, that doesn't make sense. I can see one case where it /might/ make sense: it's if an X app hides its own cursor, but then, it's the X app's reponsability, not XWin. Well, it's not a big deal, it's just ugly :) Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 10:59:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor In-Reply-To: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, > However, I already got on a > couple occasions the pointer visible with no way to hide it. Was that with your modified server or with the Test57 server? I had to reimplement the showing/hiding logic in the Test57 server since I couldn't use your patch directly... so I need to know which one has the problem. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 11:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:35:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor In-Reply-To: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, > A static would do the job but, by personnally, I don't like static in a > function. It's easy to miss the "static" keyword when reading the code > which then make it hard to understand (or at least, I missed it. Several > times already I spent a few hours to try to understand why the code was > working just because I missed it :p). Okay, I have implemented a new convention: static variable names are now prefixed with 's_', just like globals are prefixed with 'g_'. I've updated all files in the hw/xwin directory and I'll submit that patch to XFree86. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 11:42:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:42:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: Now that we have the -nodecoration parameter we can start messing around with making the some initial moves towards a rootless mode, just like XDarwin. Here are some initial steps to take that would help you learn a little about creating a rootless mode: 1) Start off by simply overriding PaintWindowBackground to paint a transparent background to cause the X Windows (still managed by a window manager such as twm) to 'float' above the Windows desktop when Cygwin/XFree86 has the focus. 2) You'll need to look at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/quartz/rootlessScreen.c/RootlessPaintWindowBac kground (). There is a check in this function that paints the root window background using the 'magic' transparent color. You'll need to do something like this for Cygwin/XFree86, so you'll need to start by finding the Windows 'magic' transparent color. You'll also need to put a function that is almost equivalent to this function into some file in hw/xwin/. 3) You now need to wrap the paint background function so that our paint background function gets called first. XDarwin does this in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/quartz/rootlessScreen.c/RootlessWrap (). To start you'll need to make a similar function to this in hw/xwin/, or you could just copy the WRAP macro and the call to it for PaintWindowBackground into hw/xwin/winscrinit.c/winFinishScreenInitFB (). Darwin calls RootlessWrap through a convoluted sequence something like: DarwinAddScreen->QuartzSetupScreen->AquaSetupScreen->RootlessInit->RootlessW rap. If you do all that you'd have put Cygwin/XFree86 on the road to having a rootless mode. Good luck, Harold From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 9 11:43:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:43:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020609155842.67996.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> > 1) Start off by simply overriding > PaintWindowBackground to paint a > transparent background to cause the X Windows (still > managed by a window > manager such as twm) to 'float' above the Windows > desktop when > Cygwin/XFree86 has the focus. > starting at search.microsoft.com gives : http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/vclib/html/vcrefCImageGetTransparentColor.asp ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 11:47:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:47:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... References: Message-ID: <3D039724.3090504@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > Now that we have the -nodecoration parameter we can start messing around > with making the some initial moves towards a rootless mode, just like > XDarwin. Here are some initial steps to take that would help you learn a > little about creating a rootless mode: [...] > If you do all that you'd have put Cygwin/XFree86 on the road to having a > rootless mode. Since I don't know anything about X nor how the X server interacts with XWin, it may be not useful but what about creating "holes" around X windows? http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/gdi/clipping_21d3.asp The XWin window start empty (a big excluded region). Each time we add a X window, we fill the region with the shape of the X window to make it non transparent. The biggest issue may be performance when managing non rectangular window and moving windows arround. This could be pretty easy to do. But on the overall, I don't think it's really the way to go. Again, I don't known much about X so it may not be reasonable but what about creating a Windows window for each X window? This would allow each X App to appear in the taskbar like any Windows application. And if someone writes a specific window manager, we could then easily use the Windows window manager to also manage X windows. Rereading the "To-Do" list, it's basically the first point ("Seamless integration with Windows") :p From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 12:00:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 12:00:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] cursor References: <3D02C317.9030405@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3D039797.5020204@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > Was that with your modified server or with the Test57 server? I had to > reimplement the showing/hiding logic in the Test57 server since I couldn't > use your patch directly... so I need to know which one has the problem. It was with my modified version. I'm going to look at Test57 and see if I can find away to reproduce it. Jehan From jehan_something@hotmail.com Sun Jun 9 12:27:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 12:27:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 References: Message-ID: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Harold, I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. Jehan From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 14:34:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:34:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <20020609155842.67996.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sylvain, No, that article does not apply. That article applies to a C++ template library for COM called ATL. We obviously do not use ATL within Cygwin/XFree86. Furthermore, the CImage class does not apply to screens, rather, "CImage provides enhanced bitmap support, including the ability to load and save images in JPEG, GIF, BMP, and Portable Network Graphics (PNG) formats." Keep looking :) Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 14:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:39:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 In-Reply-To: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, Then again, your version gets trapped in a state where the cursor is shown, whereas I haven't seen that problem with Test57 yet :) > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:36 PM > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 > > > Harold, > > I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing > it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will > always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. > > Jehan > From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 9 14:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 In-Reply-To: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jehan, That last message fired off before I was done... my Ctrl key is sticking so when I hit Enter it sent a Ctrl+Enter, which sends the message. > I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing > it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will > always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. Then again, your version gets trapped in a state where the cursor is shown, whereas I haven't seen that problem with Test57 yet :) I remember spending a *lot* of time reading the docs about WM_ACTIVATE and WM_ACTIVATEAPP to figure out where to show and hide the cursor. There were constant bug repots until I got it right, so I'm going to tend to believe that the show/hide in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is required, until someone presents me with some sample code and documentation exerpts that shows me that 1) they've spent more time on the problem than I have and 2) that the show/hide code in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is indeed not needed. Until then, I'm inclined to leave the processing as it is. Harold From baruchs@mercury.co.il Sun Jun 9 23:37:00 2002 From: baruchs@mercury.co.il (Baruch Shpirer) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:37:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: HOW MANY TIMEs DO I NEED TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST TO REALY GET OFF IT ??? From jehan_something@hotmail.com Mon Jun 10 02:24:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan Something) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 02:24:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: >HOW MANY TIMEs DO I NEED TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST TO REALY GET OFF IT >??? I'm not the maintainer of this mailing list so I don't known why you send this message to me!! Go read http://cygwin.com/lists.html to see of you are doing it correctly and, if you do and it still doesn't work, to get the mail address of the maintainer. Cheers, Jehan _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From jehan_something@hotmail.com Mon Jun 10 04:10:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] + Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 57 References: <3D03A008.1090805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3D03C9D8.1080102@hotmail.com> Harold Hunt wrote: > Jehan, > > That last message fired off before I was done... my Ctrl key is sticking so > when I hit Enter it sent a Ctrl+Enter, which sends the message. > > >>I don't think you need to manage the cursor in WM_ACTIVATEAPP, managing >>it in WM_ACTIVATE should be enough because, if I'm not wrong, XWin will >>always receive a WM_ACTIVATE with a WM_ACTIVATEAPP. > > > Then again, your version gets trapped in a state where the cursor is shown, > whereas I haven't seen that problem with Test57 yet :) Actually, I'm now using Test57, and I haven't seen my problem either. And I was not saying that this was related to my problem, I'm just saying that it looks like unecessary code. > I remember spending a *lot* of time reading the docs about WM_ACTIVATE and > WM_ACTIVATEAPP to figure out where to show and hide the cursor. There were > constant bug repots until I got it right, so I'm going to tend to believe > that the show/hide in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is required, until someone presents me > with some sample code and documentation exerpts that shows me that 1) > they've spent more time on the problem than I have and 2) that the show/hide > code in WM_ACTIVATEAPP is indeed not needed. But the code changed since and got simplified a lot, especially everything about hiding/showing the cursor the previous screen and all that stuff is gone. So maybe the bug has been flushed with the code :). But that's true that it doesn't cost much to have it anyway and that you're the boss (^_^) By the way, here is another patch that should prevent some problems with multiroot systems (not tested). Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: active.patch URL: From jehan_something@hotmail.com Mon Jun 10 04:39:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 04:39:00 -0000 Subject: [FAQ] 1.8. Is there a Cygwin/XFree86 newsgroup? Message-ID: <3D03CB18.9070306@hotmail.com> On the server news.gmane.org, the mailing list has been mapped to the group gmane.os.cygwin.xfree. It's quite convenient except that I haven't been able to post to the mailing list via the group. But since it's not required to be a member of the list to post, it's not a big deal. Jehan From nwourms@yahoo.com Mon Jun 10 05:23:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:23:00 -0000 Subject: lndir: Broken with latest cygwin cvs sources Message-ID: <20020609214836.58480.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I just wanted to report that lndir on cygwin is broken with the latest cygwin dll running on WindowsME. When you run it, it sucessfully symlinks the toplevel of the source dir, but then it hits ".." and craps out saying it already exists. This behavior does not happen on linux. So, either lndir needs to be modified to ignore ".." or cygwin needs to be modified to stop spitting out that error. Just thought I'd give a heads up, as lndir is used in building XFree. If you reply and feel that this is an issue for the main list, feel free to cross-post. Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From linux@dounsix.co.nz Mon Jun 10 08:47:00 2002 From: linux@dounsix.co.nz (Linux) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:47:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree only 1/2 screen & have lost blue bar at top of all apps Message-ID: <51065A926D41D311899F00A0C9B8E8263ABD80@localhost> Hi I have two curret issues with Cygwin-xfree 1) When invoking the Gnome interface on my Win2k system from my Redhat 7.2 box all I get is the bottom toolbar and no Icons on the screen. Its been so long that I can't remember what they are. I think Start here, Trash etc. When I open some applications then I get the Icons and no bottom tool bar. I use the XDM xwin -query xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -from command. Any clues? 2) I seem to have lost the top blue bar at the top of applications that are launched. When an application is launched it goes to the top left of the screen an I can't seem to shift it. Again any help would be gratefully appreciated. 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For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Mon Jun 10 08:47:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:47:00 -0000 Subject: french keymap and numpad References: <3D004B85.200804E9@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Message-ID: <3D04496D.55561483@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> gilles civario a ??crit : > > Hello. > > I have installed yesterday cygwin-free on my Win2000 box, to access to a > sun enterprise server with xdm connection (as if I where on a X-Terminal). > To do this, I use 'XWin -query -once'. Then, I've got the login > prompt of the server, but my french keyboard is seen as an US one. > > After some search, I've found this message : > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-05/msg00028.html > I've generated the file /tmp/fr.xkm with the xmodmap.fr file found at > http://www.gotti.org and I now use this command : > 'XWin +kb -xkbmap fr -query -once' > And hurray, my french keyboard is now recognised by the Unix server. > > The only trouble is that the numerical paddel is not responding. More exactly, > it's beave as if the Num_Lock key wasn't regognised. > What can I do to solve this ? > > Thank you. > > Gilles Civario. Hello. I've got some additionnal informations about my numpad problem. I've installed the same way cygwin-xfree on an ather Win2000 box, and there, the numerical paddel gets well. I'm was very surprised. My computer is a Dell optiplex GX240 and my configuration is gived in the attached file 'cygcheck.out'. The other one (where the numerical pad works) is a HP Kayak XM600 with Win2000 too. Here is the result of a cygcheck -k : $ cygcheck -k This key check works only in a console window, _NOT_ in a terminal session! Abort with Ctrl+C if in a terminal session. Press `q' to exit. Pressed 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -> NumLock off Released 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x23 VS: 0x4f A: 0x00 CTRL: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -> '1' Released 1x VK: 0x23 VS: 0x4f A: 0x00 CTRL: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- NL -- -- -- -- -> NumLock on Released 1x VK: 0x90 VS: 0x45 A: 0x00 CTRL: -- EK -- -- NL -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x61 VS: 0x4f A: 0x31 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- -> '1' Released 1x VK: 0x61 VS: 0x4f A: 0x31 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- Pressed 1x VK: 0x51 VS: 0x1e A: 0x71 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- -> 'q' Released 1x VK: 0x51 VS: 0x1e A: 0x71 CTRL: -- -- -- -- NL -- -- -- -- Thank you for any help. Gilles Civario. -------------- next part -------------- Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Mon Jun 10 08:25:14 2002 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Path: . C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\bin c:\WINNT\system32 c:\WINNT c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 WinDir: C:\WINNT HOME = `d:\civario' MAKE_MODE = `unix' PWD = `/cygdrive/d/civario/tmp' USER = `civario' Use `-r' to scan registry a: fd N/A N/A c: hd NTFS 6997Mb 31% CP CS UN PA FC d: hd NTFS 14001Mb 4% CP CS UN PA FC home e: cd N/A N/A C:\cygwin / system binmode C:\cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:\cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts system binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,noumount Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll 54k 2002/01/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll 108k 2002/04/15 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll 17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll 20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll 306k 2002/04/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghttpd.dll 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll 108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll 121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll 751k 2002/02/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.10 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 51 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Mon Feb 25 11:14:34 EST 2002 Shared id: cygwin1S3 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll Cygwin Package Information Package Version WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 XFree86-jdoc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 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2.0-1 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shutdown 1.2-2 squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 ssmtp 2.38.7-3 swig 1.3.11-1 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 tcsh 6.11.00-4 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 tetex-beta 20001218-4 texinfo 4.2-3 texmf 20000804-2 texmf-base 20000804-2 texmf-doc 20000804-2 texmf-extra 20000804-2 textutils 2.0.21-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 ttcp 19980512-1 ucl 1.01-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 upx 1.20-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.4-2 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 whois 4.5.17-1 xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 zsh 4.0.4-1 Use -h to see help about each section From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Mon Jun 10 10:26:00 2002 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:26:00 -0000 Subject: [tfletcher@netfactoriel.com: starting Xwindows] Message-ID: <20020610131015.T30892@cygbert.vinschen.de> Wrong mailing list. I've forwarded to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Corinna ----- Forwarded message from Tim Fletcher ----- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:50:04 +0200 From: "Tim Fletcher" Subject: starting Xwindows To: hi list, i'm having touble starting xwin on cygwin. i'm most probably missing something really simple, but when i run XWin.exe, it just hangs on the startup screen. TIA &HAND Tim -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Mon Jun 10 12:54:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:54:00 -0000 Subject: [tfletcher@netfactoriel.com: starting Xwindows] Message-ID: You are not hanging, but this way to start xwin is not the recommend one. use either the startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat located in /etc/X11R6/bin and please take the time to read the FAQ as you will find answers to your next problems in there ;-) Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen Corinna Vinschen @cygwin.com on 10-06-2002 13:10:15 Please respond to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: Tim Fletcher Subject: [tfletcher@netfactoriel.com: starting Xwindows] Wrong mailing list. I've forwarded to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Corinna ----- Forwarded message from Tim Fletcher ----- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:50:04 +0200 From: "Tim Fletcher" Subject: starting Xwindows To: hi list, i'm having touble starting xwin on cygwin. i'm most probably missing something really simple, but when i run XWin.exe, it just hangs on the startup screen. TIA &HAND Tim -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Mon Jun 10 12:58:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:58:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: YES SIR, couldn't wait, so I went home during the midday-break to fetch it, and indeed, both problems have mysteriously disappeared. Thank you, (and Boy Wonder Jehan, if I followed the mailings correctly). What a pity, do we now have a product that is perfect? Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm, could provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? Maybe he likes a little challenge? It might keep him from worrying about seeing multiple cursors? ;-) (if that wasn't obvious) Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: zaterdag 8 juni 2002 5:55 To: Pille Geert (bkarnd); cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = caps-lock Gerard, Please try the Test 56 release or the XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 pre-release (they are the same): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00072.html Please report to the mailing list whether the bug is still present or not. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd) > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:55 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys > = caps-lock > > > Hello, > > when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the > currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to > the other > window. > > Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to > manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB. My installation of cygwin > and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to > date. The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm (the HP/UX > xterm seems > unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no > problem with that > using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb). > > Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose) > press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to > switch that > of by hitting the shift keys separately. It happens quite often by > accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT? > > Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at > work now ;-) > > Gerard > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have > received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email > that the intended recipient was not reached. > =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From jehan_something@hotmail.com Mon Jun 10 14:07:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:07:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock References: Message-ID: <3D04CA09.80805@hotmail.com> Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > couldn't wait, so I went home during the midday-break to fetch it, and > indeed, both problems have mysteriously disappeared. I hope it's not too mysterious or Harold may feel it as an insult to his programming skills!! ;) > Thank you, (and Boy Wonder Jehan, if I followed the mailings correctly). Nope, I didn't do anything about it except reminding Harold. But you're welcome :) > What a pity, do we now have a product that is perfect? No because I see doubled cursors ;) > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm And before you said I was a boy. What make you think that I'm so young? I left school several years ago already. Gosh time is going fast. > could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? Maybe he likes a > little challenge? From a mail from Harold on February: "You CAN run in windowed mode (instead of fullscreen) if you run XWin.exe with the -engine 1 argument and you have Windows in 8 bit color mode: XWin -engine 1" And then, there is several thing that makes it hard for me: - I don't anything about X (what's pseudocolor?) - I don't know anything about DirectDraw (except that it comes with DirectX) - I don't have much time (bascally only week-ends). And besides that, I would be more motivated to work on the multiwindow mode :) > It might keep him from worrying about seeing multiple > cursors? "...I see dead cursors..." Jehan From info@french-union.com Mon Jun 10 14:28:00 2002 From: info@french-union.com (French Union) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:28:00 -0000 Subject: Hello, Message-ID: <20020610154748.7ABDBE059@relay-3m.club-internet.fr> Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, Many men and women have found good friends or are now happily married as a result of our free service. You can too! Our website www.french-union.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: logo.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 6063 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 16:49:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:49:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: <200206101725.g5AHPvE19358@pilot16.cl.msu.edu> Pille, > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm, could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? We have pseudocolor without going fullscreen. You have to use the GDI DIB- based engine, which is engine 1. For example: XWin -engine 1 Of course, you have to be running Windows at 8 bits per pixel to start with. On the other hand, if you are talking about supporting multiple visual types, that seems to be the promise of Keith Packard's Layer extension. Unfortunately, the layer extension is as well documented as the randr (resize and rotate) extension and the shadow extension: that is to say, not at all. (At least it is not documented from a server implementors perspective.) I've tried telling layer to create some new visual types but I was never successful. Harold From cjraven@haggis.nl Mon Jun 10 17:47:00 2002 From: cjraven@haggis.nl (Splatter van Upchuck) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:47:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) Message-ID: Greetings everyone! I just got cygwin installed as a precursor to installing RH Linux on a dedicated PC later. I figured this might be a good Linux learning experience. It's up and running, but I've hit a small roadblock I could use some help with. I have X86Free running (which frankly considering my newbie status I'm amazed by, but that's another story) however, I just have a clock and a couple of terminal windows...in other words what /~xinitrc specifies. To gain a better understanding of the desktop (as opposed to the only thing I've known in the past which is a CLI environment, I thought I'd like to get either KDE or Gnome up and running. I've seen them run on other folks' machines and it looks interesting. However....(and there's always a however) I don't see either of these packages as part of cygwin, yet the archives contain references to both. Can I grab an RPM (does cygwin support rpm's?) and just install it irrespective of the Win32 environment running "beneath" XFree and Cygwin itself? IS there a KDE or Gnome (or even enlightenment perhaps) package available for cygwin? I've done a couple of hours reading (which spared some newbie "please help me" posts earlier on) but this one eludes me completely. Can anyone point me at what I should be reading, or else can anyone answer the three questions above? Thanks & TIA -Splat From cjraven@haggis.nl Mon Jun 10 18:24:00 2002 From: cjraven@haggis.nl (Splatter van Upchuck) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: Webmin Message-ID: Greetings all! Is webmin supported under cygwin? Regards & TIA, -Splat From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 18:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) Message-ID: <200206102107.g5AL7DO33270@pilot19.cl.msu.edu> Neither Gnome nor KDE on Cygwin are ready for newbies yet. They are very preliminary packages. You have to really know what you are doing to get either of them working. I recommend that you just be happy with looking at KDE and Gnome on your friend's linux boxes. Harold From Eric_Peabody@hilton.com Mon Jun 10 18:26:00 2002 From: Eric_Peabody@hilton.com (Eric Peabody) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:26:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Message-ID: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F07178D63@cmxserv3.hilton.com> Running: Nt 4.0 SP 6a Outlook 2000 XFree86 1.9.12-1 xwinclip Test03 IE 5.5 SP2 With xwinclip running, it takes around a minute or so for Outlook to launch and load an external program. Most often this is a link to a web page and so IE is the program being launched but similar results are obtained if I launch an embedded spreadsheet or Word document. If I kill xwinclip it runs normally, taking a couple of seconds. Likewise, From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Jun 10 21:02:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:02:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock In-Reply-To: <3D04CA09.80805@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <20020610234911.16096.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> > > It might keep him from worrying about seeing > multiple > > cursors? > > "...I see dead cursors..." "...I see dead people..." :) ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 10 23:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:58:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running In-Reply-To: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F07178D63@cmxserv3.hilton.com> Message-ID: Eric, Interesting. I've heard reports of this before. However, I'm unable to duplicate this problem. I suspect that the problem has something to do with the fact that X events don't come in that often, so we may not process our Windows events in a timely manner. I have been searching forever for a non-blocking equivalent to XNextEvent... and I finally found one! Here is Owen Taylor's response to someone looking for the same thing: http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-December/013978.html =========================================================================== > For reasons to do with a user interface element I'm working on, > I need something like select. Do the XCheck*Event() functions > block? I'm really reluctant to use pthreads, as this isn't portable > enough for what I'm trying to do. > > Specifically, if the app is in a certain state, I want to update the > window every 1/32 of a second, but I need to keep processing events too. > If XCheckWindowEvent() doesn't block, and is reasonably quick, it will > do perfectly. Does it? The standard way of doing a non-blocking check is if (XPending (display)) { XNextEvent (display, &event); } Using any of the XCheck*Event functions can be relatively slow, since they need to search the entire queue. (If you had to use one, I'd suggest using XCheckIfEvent with an appropriate predicate. But XPending() should be as good or better.) Of course, what real toolkits do is select() on ConnectionNumber(display) to know when they need to call XPending() without having to poll continuously. =========================================================================== I was very intrigued to see this. This not only means that I can make xwinclip better, but it means that I can finally integrate clipboard support into XWin.exe, since we'll actually be able to see some sort of shutdown message, rather than having XNextEvent fail and call exit (). (Obviously you can't integrate a clipboard client in the server if every time you reset you call exit ()... cause you would exit instead of resetting.) I've done a small rewrite of xwinclip to use select () on both the X event handle and /dev/windows (which is a socket that watches the Windows message queue). This should solve the problem that you are seeing with Outlook because we will process our Windows messages in a timely manner. I'll post the new xwinclip in just a few minutes. It won't be long now until we can get rid of xwinclip and have clipboard integration directly in XWin.exe. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 02:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:22:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 04 to the xwinclip development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test04.exe.bz2 (4 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020610-2055.tar.bz2 (6 KB) Changes: 1) xwinclip.c - Use select () in ConnectionNumber(pDisplay) and /dev/windows instead of calling XNextEvent, which blocks until the next event. This has many benefits: Windows messages are now processed almost immediately after they come in (the old approach could take minutes), we can catch the X shutdown and restart messages rather than having XNextEvent call exit () when it sees that the connection has closed (we don't currently catch these events), and the clipboard integration code can now be rewritten with the assumption that we can and will see the Windows events when they arrive without an X event immediately preceeding them (which may allow us to stop stealing ownership of the X selection). (Harold Hunt) Here is a description of using select instead of XNextEvent: http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-December/013978.html Here are two examples of how to use select instead of XNextEvent: http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/tclhtml/tclFAQ/part2/faq-doc-54.html http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/graphics/X/signals.html (That second one is towards the bottom, just find `ConnectionNumber') 2) xwinclip.c - Move the X event loop into new function FlushXEventQueue. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 03:56:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 03:56:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running In-Reply-To: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F07178D63@cmxserv3.hilton.com> Message-ID: Eric, Please try the xwinclip-Test04 that I just released. I think it will fix your problem. Please report your results to the mailing list. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 04:10:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) In-Reply-To: <003c01c210d3$c8c17260$0f00000a@Zeus> Message-ID: You have to keep replies to the mailing list. Someone on the list probably can explain this better than I. (And how would my time better be spent, developing features or answering simple questions that take a lot of writing? :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Splatter van Upchuck [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:09 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: Re: KDE (or gnome) > > > What else runs under XFree then? I can't figure that looking at a > couple of > terminal sessions and XClock constitutes the entire XFree86 > experience under > cygwin surely? Or does it??? > > > > Neither Gnome nor KDE on Cygwin are ready for newbies yet. > They are very > > preliminary packages. You have to really know what you are doing to get > > either of them working. > > Well, I had a hankering to actually wind up with a 'desktop' > believe it or not :-) Although I have one technically speaking, there's > absolutely nothing on it as I said above...so what am I missing Harold??? > > I recommend that you just be happy with looking at KDE and Gnome on your > > friend's linux boxes. > > I could use just a *little* help here......y'know..pointers in the right > direction? Else what is the point of cygwin to begin with...aside from the > avowed intent of allowing programmers to port stuff over from one > environment to another....surely that's not the only reason for cygwins' > existence???? > > Thanks for the response Harold....but please suggest ideas, I don't mind > doing a ton of reading and trying to make something work. > > -Splat > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 05:06:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:06:00 -0000 Subject: FW: KDE Bug # 40875 Message-ID: >From Peter Hircock: ========================================================== One thing I notice, is the icons that show up had a different format than the others: >From the file command: kisdndock.png: PNG image data, 16 x 16, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced kit.png: PNG image data, 16 x 16, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced kivio.png: PNG image data, 16 x 16, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced I can see kivio ( colormap ) , but not the color RGBA images. ========================================================== Looks like Waldo was right-on about the alpha channel causing problems. Now we just need to find out why Qt 3 or KDE 3 has a problem with our visuals and/or pixmap formats that causes problems with alpha channel bitmaps. Harold From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de Tue Jun 11 05:21:00 2002 From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:21:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: Message-ID: <3D059FC3.6020307@visicon-online.de> Hello! I am sorry to (maybe) destroy your enthusiasm but from my point of view there are some more reasons for not running either gnome or kde on cygwin: The main thing is: they are very large packages and even on my linux box they are that slow, that I prefer just using icewm as window manager and only have kde and gnome installed in case some application needs the libraries. If I start to compare cygwin running under win98 I really can not advise you to run kde or gnome - maybe on NT kernel based machines that is different. Cygwin is (and here the developers have made a real good job - Thanks!) a very good tool if you want to run applications like nedit (which is my favourite editor) and other basic unix routines I really miss under windows - but as any Operating system running on top of another one - it has it`s speed limitations. Another great usage for cygwin is to use it for running xdm sessions or if you have to do admin work on a unix box over the network (it has ssh, sftp and all the other nice tools which windooze does not have). So for me (personal opinion) it is a great (and long expected) extension to that "operating systems" from Redmond which I am forced to use some times... By the way: I would not even use kde or gnome with linux - but that is MY personal opinion about it. Please do not kill me for it! So again: Thanks to all the developers! Regards, Uwe From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Tue Jun 11 05:24:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A40B@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > From: Splatter van Upchuck [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > What else runs under XFree then? My windows development environment (for Win32 code, not cygwin code). I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my editor of choice, gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with visual studio. You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some even appear on my icewm tool bar). If you want a web browser, office apps etc then you may as well just use the native windows one - they work well. Cygwin comes in when I want a sane development environment, a nice shell (bash or cmd.exe - hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm working with and not fighting against my environment. Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix machines. With a few of the patches that have gone in over the last month and native clipboard support coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent queue then merging xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of things to do) it's very usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). Here's a question - can I stop windows from loading explorer on startup and get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could do this under Win95 - is it still possible under 2000 ? Stuart From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Tue Jun 11 05:45:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:45:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A40B@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <000c01c21136$58600870$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Hi, under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon you create a string value named Shell, and you put what you want in it (cmd.exe for example). May be it could be used to load CygWin ? I haven't tried it that way. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Adamson" To: "'Splatter van Upchuck '" Cc: "'cygx '" Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: RE: KDE (or gnome) > > From: Splatter van Upchuck [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > > > What else runs under XFree then? > > My windows development environment (for Win32 code, not cygwin code). > I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my editor of choice, > gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with visual studio. > You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some even appear on my > icewm tool bar). > > If you want a web browser, office apps etc then you may as well just > use the native windows one - they work well. Cygwin comes in when I > want a sane development environment, a nice shell (bash or cmd.exe - > hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm working with and not > fighting against my environment. > > Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix machines. With a few of the > patches that have gone in over the last month and native clipboard support > coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent queue then merging > xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of things to do) it's very > usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). > > > Here's a question - can I stop windows from loading explorer on startup and > get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could do this under Win95 > - is it still possible under 2000 ? > > > Stuart > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 11 06:59:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:59:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) In-Reply-To: <000c01c21136$58600870$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Message-ID: <20020611111048.64451.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> is the program that is named here laucnhed after winnt logon or is it replacing it ? > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows > NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon > > you create a string value named Shell, and you put > what you want in it > (cmd.exe for example). > > May be it could be used to load CygWin ? I haven't > tried it that way. > > CU > . \)|(/ > . (o o) > . > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > .(_| Francis VIVAT > | > . | CETP-CNRS > | > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > | > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > | > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > |_ > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > | ) > . > \---------------------------------------------------/ > . (_) (_) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Adamson" > > To: "'Splatter van Upchuck '" > Cc: "'cygx '" > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:21 AM > Subject: RE: KDE (or gnome) > > > > > From: Splatter van Upchuck > [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > > > > > What else runs under XFree then? > > > > My windows development environment (for Win32 > code, not cygwin code). > > I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my > editor of choice, > > gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with > visual studio. > > You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some > even appear on my > > icewm tool bar). > > > > If you want a web browser, office apps etc then > you may as well just > > use the native windows one - they work well. > Cygwin comes in when I > > want a sane development environment, a nice shell > (bash or cmd.exe - > > hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm > working with and not > > fighting against my environment. > > > > Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix > machines. With a few of the > > patches that have gone in over the last month and > native clipboard support > > coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent > queue then merging > > xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of > things to do) it's very > > usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). > > > > > > Here's a question - can I stop windows from > loading explorer on startup > and > > get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could > do this under Win95 > > - is it still possible under 2000 ? > > > > > > Stuart > > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Tue Jun 11 07:05:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:05:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: <20020611111048.64451.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801c21140$22ea6140$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Hi, it replaces explorer.exe (which is not lauched at all with this key present). In my example (cmd.exe), you just have a CMD window. It's really usefull if your explorer is causing trouble a startup. CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Francis VIVAT" ; "Stuart Adamson" ; "'Splatter van Upchuck '" Cc: "'cygx '" Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: Re: KDE (or gnome) > is the program that is named here laucnhed after winnt > logon or is it replacing it ? > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows > > NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon > > > > you create a string value named Shell, and you put > > what you want in it > > (cmd.exe for example). > > > > May be it could be used to load CygWin ? I haven't > > tried it that way. > > > > CU > > . \)|(/ > > . (o o) > > . > > > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > > .(_| Francis VIVAT > > | > > . | CETP-CNRS > > | > > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > > | > > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > > | > > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > > |_ > > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > > | ) > > . > > > \---------------------------------------------------/ > > . (_) (_) > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stuart Adamson" > > > > To: "'Splatter van Upchuck '" > > Cc: "'cygx '" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:21 AM > > Subject: RE: KDE (or gnome) > > > > > > > > From: Splatter van Upchuck > > [mailto:upchuck@haggis.nl] > > > > > > > > What else runs under XFree then? > > > > > > My windows development environment (for Win32 > > code, not cygwin code). > > > I use Icewm for my window manager, Vi (vim) is my > > editor of choice, > > > gnu make is much better that nmake that ships with > > visual studio. > > > You can always invoke win32 apps from cygwin (some > > even appear on my > > > icewm tool bar). > > > > > > If you want a web browser, office apps etc then > > you may as well just > > > use the native windows one - they work well. > > Cygwin comes in when I > > > want a sane development environment, a nice shell > > (bash or cmd.exe - > > > hum, tough choice ;)) and that feeling that I'm > > working with and not > > > fighting against my environment. > > > > > > Xfree86 also makes a good Xterminal for unix > > machines. With a few of the > > > patches that have gone in over the last month and > > native clipboard support > > > coming soon (if I knew how to hook into the XEvent > > queue then merging > > > xwinclip and Xwin would be high on my list of > > things to do) it's very > > > usable and free (unlike eXceed, XWin32 etc). > > > > > > > > > Here's a question - can I stop windows from > > loading explorer on startup > > and > > > get it to load Xfree86 instead? I know you could > > do this under Win95 > > > - is it still possible under 2000 ? > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 09:10:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:10:00 -0000 Subject: mirrors.rcn.net Message-ID: <20020611122144.5842.qmail@web21004.mail.yahoo.com> FYI, It appears that on 06-10 the rcn mirror server (mirrors.rcn.net) had some sort of catastrophic storage failure. Thus, after repairs were made, it appears they are currently rsyncing their content, but god only know when they'll get around to rsyncing sources. So if anyone is curious, here's the status report: http://status.rcn.com/query.cgi?INDEX=200206101123&TABLE=Web&MODE=INDEX_QUERY Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 11 09:36:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) In-Reply-To: <001801c21140$22ea6140$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Message-ID: <20020611122451.30922.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> ceci dit, si je veux me d??barasser du logon Winnt classique, y a t il un moyen ? (je n'arrive pas encore ?? cerner le role de explorer.exe par rapport au login sur la machine.) --- Francis VIVAT a ??crit : > Hi, > > it replaces explorer.exe (which is not lauched at > all with this key > present). > In my example (cmd.exe), you just have a CMD window. > It's really usefull if > your explorer is causing trouble a startup. > > CU > . \)|(/ > . (o o) > . > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > .(_| Francis VIVAT > | > . | CETP-CNRS > | > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > | > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > | > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > |_ > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > | ) > . > \---------------------------------------------------/ > . (_) (_) ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Tue Jun 11 10:51:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:51:00 -0000 Subject: KDE (or gnome) References: <20020611122451.30922.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003a01c21145$b69c56f0$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Il me semble que c'est une dll qui gere ca (msgina.dll). Mais la, tu vas changer pour tous les utilisateurs. Il existe des remplacement de cette DLL avec des ajouts. Par contre, si tu veux changer le logon pour avoir le logon Unix a la place ... ce n'est pas tout a fait gagne ;-) A+ . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Francis VIVAT" Cc: "'cygx '" Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: KDE (or gnome) > ceci dit, si je veux me d??barasser du logon Winnt > classique, y a t il un moyen ? (je n'arrive pas encore > ?? cerner le role de explorer.exe par rapport au login > sur la machine.) > > > --- Francis VIVAT a > ??crit : > Hi, > > > > it replaces explorer.exe (which is not lauched at > > all with this key > > present). > > In my example (cmd.exe), you just have a CMD window. > > It's really usefull if > > your explorer is causing trouble a startup. > > > > CU > > . \)|(/ > > . (o o) > > . > > > /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ > > .(_| Francis VIVAT > > | > > . | CETP-CNRS > > | > > . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy > > | > > . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 > > | > > . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 > > |_ > > . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr > > | ) > > . > > > \---------------------------------------------------/ > > . (_) (_) > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From geek@burri.to Tue Jun 11 11:01:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:01:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() Message-ID: <3619.128.2.120.244.1023803953.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Is it possible to make the X11 bell work? "xset q" tells me the bell should be ringing, but I can't seem to get it to work. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:03:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:03:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() Message-ID: <200206111405.g5BE5pi17956@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Brian, What version of Cygwin/XFree86 do you have? If you've got Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 installed via Cygwin's setup.exe (you can check the version string by running 'xdpyinfo' in an xterm) then the keyboard bell should work. There was a change in the last few months that fixed the keyboard bell. Specifically, it appears that Test54 was the release that first had a working keyboard bell: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/changelog.html Harold Brian Gallew said: > Is it possible to make the X11 bell work? "xset q" tells me the bell > should be ringing, but I can't seem to get it to work. > > From ekolomiets@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 11:06:00 2002 From: ekolomiets@yahoo.com (Elena Kolomiets) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:06:00 -0000 Subject: Installation Q's Message-ID: <20020611161033.55582.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I have installed Cygwin with default selection of packages (as suggested in user manual) and i am mising /usr/bin dirrectory and there are NO telnet has been installed for the Cygwin. Do you know if "inetutils" Common networking utilities and servers is included in a subset of programms for default installation? ===== Sincerely, Elena Kolomiets 3927 Hawk Owl Cove, College Station, TX 77845 (979)690-3172 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 11:19:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1: Xarch.h includes nonexistant (line 55) Message-ID: <20020611163652.2747.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I just wanted to report that when you include Xos.h in a program, it will then include Xarch.h. The problem is that Xarch.h will then try to include , which doesn't exist for our platform. Souldn't this be ? Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:24:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: <200206111751.g5BHpdi47912@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Feedback, I need feedback. I need someone who regularly experiences a xwinclip-Test03 causing another Windows application to become unresponsive or slow to test xwinclip-Test04 and tell me (on the mailing list) if xwinclip-Test04 corrects this behavior or not. Once I know that xwinclip-Test04 is better than xwinclip-Test03 I can start working on a way around stealing ownership of the X selection and bringing the clipboard integration into XWin.exe. The sooner the better, Harold From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Tue Jun 11 11:27:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:27:00 -0000 Subject: Key modifiers in TWM. Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A5905061005@acdfwx2.acdin.de.ittind.com> Hello, I can't get TWM to recognize at least a few key modifiers: control, shift, meta. I am working in /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc. TWM picks up other modifications to that file, but not the standard Button{1,2,3} bindings (it seems). To no avail, I tried using xmodmap to make explicit the Meta assignment to the left Alt key, i.e. 'xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L"', in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh just after XWin.exe. 'xev' show that the assignment was active. The Alt key seemed to work out-of-the-box some time ago (can't say when). Should it work like this today? I am using XWin-Test04 and the latest xfree86 packages (twm) available through cygwin's setup.exe. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1: Xarch.h includes nonexistant (line 55) Message-ID: <200206111803.g5BI30W15152@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Nicholas, > I just wanted to report that when you include Xos.h in a program, it will > then include Xarch.h. The problem is that Xarch.h will then try to > include , which doesn't exist for our platform. > Souldn't this be ? Wow. That just show how few applications have been compiled on Cygwin/XFree86 to date, as no one has ever mentioned that bug before. The idea behind machine/endian.h is to defined __LITTLE_ENDIAN, ntohl, ntohs, htonl, etc. The equivalent functionality in Cygwin is in asm/byteorder.h. byteorder.h is not included from sys/types.h (as far as I can tell) so we'll have to include asm/byteorder.h. Nice catch. I'll submit a patch to XFree86 for this. Harold From geek@burri.to Tue Jun 11 11:33:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:33:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() In-Reply-To: <200206111405.g5BE5pi17956@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111405.g5BE5pi17956@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3643.128.2.67.105.1023818738.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt said: > What version of Cygwin/XFree86 do you have? 4.2.0 as installed by setup. > Specifically, it appears that Test54 was the release that first had > a working keyboard bell: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/changelog.html Well, echo a ^G doesn't DTRT. Neither does "echo -e \\a". I've got a GTK+ application (running on another machine and displayed locally) which beeps just fine elsewhere, but not under xfree/cygwin. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:47:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:47:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1: Xarch.h includes nonexistant (line 55) Message-ID: <200206111818.g5BIIoo17970@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Oops. I have to do a full retraction of what I just said. I made a simple test program that compiles just fine. Xarch.c: ========================================================= #include #include int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { return 0; } ========================================================= Makefile: ========================================================= # # Don't forget to `ln -s /usr/X11R6/include/X11 /usr/include/X11' # CFLAGS = -g all: Xarch Xarch: Xarch.o gcc -o $@ Xarch.o ========================================================= I suspect that you are doing something non-standard, such as telling a source package that you are compiling on linux (to get a start at compiling under Cygwin), you are cross-compiling and forgetting to pass -Ulinux, or you're including some header file that defines something that screws up the logic in Xarch.h. So, which one is it? :) However, you did cause me to stumble upon a real issue that needs addressing: I need to make the XFree86-prog package post-install script make a link in /usr/include to /usr/X11R6/include/X11. That will save many a nightmare. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 11:53:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:53:00 -0000 Subject: Installation Q's Message-ID: <200206111823.g5BINco142228@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Elena, > i am mising > /usr/bin dirrectory In Windows Explorer you will not always see a c:\cygwin\usr\bin directory. Cygwin stores its binaries in c:\cygwin\bin and /usr/bin is just a link to /bin. Thus, in a Cygwin bash shell if you do an `ls /usr/bin' you'll see the contents of c:\cygwin\bin. Make sense? Good. > Do you know if > > "inetutils" Common networking utilities and servers > > is included in a subset of programms for default > installation? You need to manually select inetutils in order to get telnet. Heh... look more closely at the User's Guide. On this page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-downloading.html it says: "The default selection of packages should be okay for most users. However, you may wish to ensure that the inetutils and openssh packages are selected if you wish to use telnet and ssh to connect to remote machines." Harold From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Tue Jun 11 13:04:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Key modifiers in TWM. (and xwinclip-Test04) Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A5905061006@acdfwx2.acdin.de.ittind.com> Ah, I meant that I am using XWin-Test57.exe, not -Test04. xwinclip on the brain . . . By the way, if it helps, I do not notice unusual slowdowns (there are usual ones) in Outlook with xwinclip running. Vince Virgilio -----Original Message----- From: Virgilio, Vincent Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:00 PM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Key modifiers in TWM. Hello, I can't get TWM to recognize at least a few key modifiers: control, shift, meta. I am working in /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc. TWM picks up other modifications to that file, but not the standard Button{1,2,3} bindings (it seems). To no avail, I tried using xmodmap to make explicit the Meta assignment to the left Alt key, i.e. 'xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L"', in /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh just after XWin.exe. 'xev' show that the assignment was active. The Alt key seemed to work out-of-the-box some time ago (can't say when). Should it work like this today? I am using XWin-Test04 and the latest xfree86 packages (twm) available through cygwin's setup.exe. Regards, Vince Virgilio ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 13:28:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:28:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() Message-ID: <200206111830.g5BIUBI77752@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Brian, > Well, echo a ^G doesn't DTRT. Neither does "echo -e \\a". I've got a > GTK+ application (running on another machine and displayed locally) > which beeps just fine elsewhere, but not under xfree/cygwin. Okay. Do you have a sound-card or just a pc speaker on the machine that you use Cygwin/XFree86 on? If you've got a sound card and you have your Windows sounds configured so that no sound is played for the Default Beep, then you certainly won't here anything. Go into the Control Panel->Sounds and check that you have a sound configured. Click the play button and make sure that you hear the sound when it is played. Then run Cygwin/XFree86 and confirm that you do not hear the sound. I just did a test on a machine running Windows NT 4.0 without a sound card. "echo -c \\a" caused a pc speaker beep from both a Cygwin bash shell and from an xterm under Cygwin/XFree86. The two beeps were of a different pitch though... weird. Let us know your results, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 13:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:35:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. Harold > Yes, that fixed it. Very nice! > > Thanks for the quick response! > > Eric Peabody From eiffleduarte@cnps.embrapa.br Tue Jun 11 13:42:00 2002 From: eiffleduarte@cnps.embrapa.br (Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:42:00 -0000 Subject: Bug in WindowMaker? Message-ID: <3D06454E.9000203@cnps.embrapa.br> Hi, folks! I just downloaded Cygwin 1.3.10, which comes with XFree 4 binaries and a few window managers (TWM, FVWM, WindowMaker and OpenBox). After installing Cygwin, I altered startxwin.bat to load WindowMaker instead of TWM (the default window manager). However, when WindowMaker loads and drwas the Clip on the screen, I get a fatal error "Window Maker received signal 11". The message also says "This fatal error occured probably due to a bug". What is signal 11? Has anybody ran into this bug? I am using Windows 2000 SP2, in Portuguese. Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte, M.Sc. Pesquisador II EMBRAPA Solos Rua Jardim Bot??nico, 1024 Rio de Janeiro, RJ CEP 22460-000 Fone: (21) 2274-4999 RAMAL 249 FAX.: (21) 2274-5291 eiffleduarte@cnps.embrapa.br From jehan_something@hotmail.com Tue Jun 11 13:43:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: Bug in WindowMaker? References: <3D06454E.9000203@cnps.embrapa.br> Message-ID: <3D06473B.3060401@hotmail.com> Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte wrote: > Hi, folks! > > I just downloaded Cygwin 1.3.10, which comes with XFree 4 binaries and a > few window managers (TWM, FVWM, WindowMaker and OpenBox). > After installing Cygwin, I altered startxwin.bat to load WindowMaker > instead of TWM (the default window manager). However, when WindowMaker > loads and drwas the Clip on the screen, I get a fatal error "Window > Maker received signal 11". The message also says "This fatal error > occured probably due to a bug". > What is signal 11? Has anybody ran into this bug? > I am using Windows 2000 SP2, in Portuguese. I can't say that it's the same reason but I get the same error number if I try to run several screens at the same time XWin -screen 1 640 480 -screen 0 640 480 From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 11 14:00:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (cygwin/xfree86 and Windows clipboard integration) In-Reply-To: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020611200511.GE7474@redhat.com> On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 02:33:11PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. > >Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message >somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. And here's why: "Sorry, a message part has an unacceptable MIME Content-Type: application/ms-tnef" Apparently there was an attachment in the message. cgf From yelmalio@sartar.fsnet.co.uk Tue Jun 11 14:03:00 2002 From: yelmalio@sartar.fsnet.co.uk (Dave Barlow) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:03:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and DECwindows Message-ID: Folks Anyone out there got any experience making Xfree86 V4.2.0 work with OpenVMS V6.2 and DECwindows? From reading around Google searches I gather there is a xf86cfg and/or accessx program that heps set up .Xauthority properly. Unfortunately I can not seem to find this on the copy I just installed on Win NT and XP. The problem I have is that after setting up my display variable and starting an xterm, $SET DISP/CREATE/NODE=node/TRANSPORT=TCPIP and $CRE/TERM/DET in DCL, it returns 'cannot open display'. Digging around a little further it looks like my PC is rejecting the connection, error is 'connection rejected by node'. At first I thought this was because xauth was not configured properly. Unfortunately this older version of DECWindows does not support 'xauth generate' I noticed from Google that some one has configured XFree86 to use DECWindows so this is possible. Unfortunately I can't see what the magic button is that I have to push. My works, rather shockingly, has decided to adopt open source software in order to reduce costs. It's an airline so costs are a big deal at the moment. They have chosen Xfree86 as the preferred replacement to Exceed but no one appears to have tested it against VMS. Any one willing to deliver a clue by four? Dave "or a LART" Barlow From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 15:17:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:17:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and DECwindows Message-ID: <200206112035.g5BKZXo115796@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Dave, Some simple questions first, since you didn't mention them. 1) Did you run 'xhost %my_vms_hostname_or_ip_address' in a Cygwin/XFree86 xterm before launching an app on VMS? 2) Have you tried running XWin.exe with the -ac (no authentication) parameter as a test? That should give you a start. Harold Dave Barlow said: > Folks > > Anyone out there got any experience making Xfree86 V4.2.0 work with > OpenVMS V6.2 and DECwindows? From reading around Google searches I > gather there is a xf86cfg and/or accessx program that heps set up > .Xauthority properly. Unfortunately I can not seem to find this on the > copy I just installed on Win NT and XP. > > The problem I have is that after setting up my display variable and > starting an xterm, $SET DISP/CREATE/NODE=node/TRANSPORT=TCPIP and > $CRE/TERM/DET in DCL, it returns 'cannot open display'. Digging around > a little further it looks like my PC is rejecting the connection, > error is 'connection rejected by node'. At first I thought this was > because xauth was not configured properly. Unfortunately this older > version of DECWindows does not support 'xauth generate' > > I noticed from Google that some one has configured XFree86 to use > DECWindows so this is possible. Unfortunately I can't see what the > magic button is that I have to push. > > My works, rather shockingly, has decided to adopt open source software > in order to reduce costs. It's an airline so costs are a big deal at > the moment. They have chosen Xfree86 as the preferred replacement to > Exceed but no one appears to have tested it against VMS. > > Any one willing to deliver a clue by four? > > Dave "or a LART" Barlow > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 11 15:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:35:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes Message-ID: <200206112042.g5BKgAW154216@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> I'm always wondering about ways to improve our non-U.S. keyboard support and I'm currently wondering if the MapVirtualKeyEx function returns a different scan code than we get with WM_KEY* and WM_SYSKEY* messages. If so this may give us an alternate method of handling non-U.S. keyboards. I need some non-U.S. keyboard testers to run this test program and send their output to the list. You'll need to feed the test program's window some key presses. Be sure to press some general keys such as 'a', 'enter', 'left arrow', etc. as well as some non-standard keys like 'AltGr+1', etc. Thanks, Harold P.S. The files are attached. I was going to post them to the web, but they are less than 5 KB, which I've compensated for by not being too wordy :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: KeyboardLayoutTest.exe.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2059 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: KeyboardLayoutTest-src.tar.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2112 bytes Desc: not available URL: From g00fball1@hotmail.com Tue Jun 11 21:13:00 2002 From: g00fball1@hotmail.com (s h) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:13:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip test 4 freezes XWindows Message-ID: details start XWin with xwinclip all seems well copy and paste between xterm and MS Word a couple of times (both ways) all seems well leave it running for about 30 minutes go back to my xterm and highlight a block of text xfree86 freezes if I kill xwinclip, it's fine again. scott _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From quetschke@scytek.de Tue Jun 11 23:30:00 2002 From: quetschke@scytek.de (Volker Quetschke) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:30:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes References: <200206112042.g5BKgAW154216@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <3D0664F3.7020404@scytek.de> Hi Harold! > I need some non-U.S. keyboard testers to run this test program and send their > output to the list. You'll need to feed the test program's window some key > presses. Be sure to press some general keys such as 'a', 'enter', 'left > arrow', etc. as well as some non-standard keys like 'AltGr+1', etc. Atached you find the log for some keys on a german keyboard. Volker -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: somekeys.txt URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 00:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:02:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip test 4 freezes XWindows Message-ID: <200206112103.g5BL3WU21428@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Scott, Did xwinclip-Test03 lack this "functionality"? Or, is xwinclip-Test04 the first version that you have used? Harold s h said: > details > > start XWin with xwinclip > all seems well > copy and paste between xterm and MS Word a couple of times (both ways) > all seems well > leave it running for about 30 minutes > go back to my xterm and highlight a block of text > xfree86 freezes > if I kill xwinclip, it's fine again. > > scott > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 03:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:05:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes In-Reply-To: <3D0664F3.7020404@scytek.de> Message-ID: Volker, > Atached you find the log for some keys on a german keyboard. > Thanks. That pretty much answers my question. Unfortunatly, it did not give me the answer I was looking for. Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function that returns the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating certain non-U.S. characters? Harold From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Jun 12 03:30:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:30:00 -0000 Subject: setxkbmap twice Message-ID: <20020611223511.40575.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, looking in the mail archives I found that setxkbmap is needed to setup the keyboard layout. so I created a ~/.xinitrc like this : . /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc setxkbmap -layout fr It seems to function (no error message on console) but my keyboard is US. if I issue 'setxkbmap -layout fr' once, I get : Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property Use defaults:rules - 'xfree86' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' if I issue it a second time, I get no message and the layout is set up. Comments ? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From ugn@hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 03:51:00 2002 From: ugn@hotmail.com (Eugene Rosenzweig) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:51:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() References: <3619.128.2.120.244.1023803953.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Message-ID: On my system the I get the beep through the speakers. The default beep is enabled in the control panel. The funny thing though, similarly to Harold I get different pitches, I get a high-pitched beep from the cmd.exe that sounds like a pc speaker but is coming from soundcard but from bash I get the sound I defined in the control panel. There was a thread on this before in cygwin list and more than once. Does not really relate to the XFree but I thought I'd mention it, maybe it is related somehow. There is one with Subject: 'Beeping' from 16/03/2002 on how to turn beeping OFF for readline (echo set bell-style none >>~.inputrc), for vi (:set vb) and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Sound\Beep registry key which I think would be toggled by the control panel anyway but still would not hurt to check. My rxvt does not beep because I run it with -vb option (no visual bell). There is same option for xterm. Could this be somehow related to the problem? I cannot check because my xfree is older than the packaged ones and does not beep at all. Eugene. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Gallew" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:59 PM Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() > Is it possible to make the X11 bell work? "xset q" tells me the bell > should be ringing, but I can't seem to get it to work. > From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Wed Jun 12 04:47:00 2002 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:47:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan code Message-ID: <3D06EAC7.2554EFFE@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Hello. Fere is the result of some key pressed on a french keyboard. Gilles Civario. $ KeyboardLayoutTest.exe KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN is the same as tha t returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call to GetKeyboardLayout. KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: 0000040C Locale name: French key name: A vk: 65 msg_sc: 16 mvk_sc: 16 key name: Z vk: 90 msg_sc: 17 mvk_sc: 17 key name: E vk: 69 msg_sc: 18 mvk_sc: 18 key name: VERR.MAJ vk: 20 msg_sc: 58 mvk_sc: 58 key name: MAJ vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: MAJ DROITE vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 key name: CTRL DROITE vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: CTRL vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: ALT vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: ALT DROITE vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: & vk: 49 msg_sc: 2 mvk_sc: 2 key name: ?? vk: 50 msg_sc: 3 mvk_sc: 3 key name: " vk: 51 msg_sc: 4 mvk_sc: 4 key name: ' vk: 52 msg_sc: 5 mvk_sc: 5 key name: RET.ARR vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 key name: ENTREE vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: INS vk: 45 msg_sc: 82 mvk_sc: 82 key name: SUPPR vk: 46 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 key name: ORIGINE vk: 36 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 key name: FIN vk: 35 msg_sc: 79 mvk_sc: 79 key name: PG.PREC vk: 33 msg_sc: 73 mvk_sc: 73 key name: PG.SUIV vk: 34 msg_sc: 81 mvk_sc: 81 key name: ECHAP vk: 27 msg_sc: 1 mvk_sc: 1 key name: ?? vk: 222 msg_sc: 41 mvk_sc: 41 key name: Ver.Num vk: 144 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 69 key name: 7 (PAVE NUM.) vk: 103 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 key name: . (PAVE NUM.) vk: 110 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 key name: ENTREE (PAVE NUM.) vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: + (PAVE NUM.) vk: 107 msg_sc: 78 mvk_sc: 78 key name: - (PAVE NUM.) vk: 109 msg_sc: 74 mvk_sc: 74 key name: * (PAVE NUM.) vk: 106 msg_sc: 55 mvk_sc: 55 key name: / (PAVE NUM.) vk: 111 msg_sc: 53 mvk_sc: 53 key name: DEFIL vk: 145 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 key name: ATTN vk: 3 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 key name: HAUT vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 key name: BAS vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 key name: GAUCHE vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 key name: DROITE vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 key name: WINDOWS GAUCHE vk: 91 msg_sc: 91 mvk_sc: 91 key name: WINDOWS DROITE vk: 92 msg_sc: 92 mvk_sc: 92 key name: APPLICATION vk: 93 msg_sc: 93 mvk_sc: 93 key name: F1 vk: 112 msg_sc: 59 mvk_sc: 59 key name: F12 vk: 123 msg_sc: 88 mvk_sc: 88 From rkarcher@frey.de Wed Jun 12 04:52:00 2002 From: rkarcher@frey.de (Reinhard Karcher) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and DECwindows In-Reply-To: <200206112035.g5BKZXo115796@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206112035.g5BKZXo115796@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020612070500.GA1109@Amis.berlin.frey> On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 04:35:32PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote > Dave, > > Some simple questions first, since you didn't mention them. > > 1) Did you run 'xhost %my_vms_hostname_or_ip_address' in a Cygwin/XFree86 > xterm before launching an app on VMS? > > 2) Have you tried running XWin.exe with the -ac (no authentication) parameter > as a test? > > Dave Barlow said: > > Anyone out there got any experience making Xfree86 V4.2.0 work with > > OpenVMS V6.2 and DECwindows? From reading around Google searches I > > gather there is a xf86cfg and/or accessx program that heps set up > > .Xauthority properly. Unfortunately I can not seem to find this on the > > copy I just installed on Win NT and XP. > > > > The problem I have is that after setting up my display variable and > > starting an xterm, $SET DISP/CREATE/NODE=node/TRANSPORT=TCPIP and > > $CRE/TERM/DET in DCL, it returns 'cannot open display'. Digging around > > a little further it looks like my PC is rejecting the connection, > > error is 'connection rejected by node'. At first I thought this was > > because xauth was not configured properly. Unfortunately this older > > version of DECWindows does not support 'xauth generate' > > Hi, its working for me with OpenVMS 6.0. I do xhost +ipaddress_of_VMS, wait for the X-Server to start and then: start rexec VMS -l user @startup.com on Win NT. startup.com execute the commands from dave: $SET DISPLAY ... and $CRE ... It's working too, if I do telnet to VMS and start startup.com. I don't do any authorization things. Perhaps there are some configurations missing on the VMS. Check with your systemadminstrator. Reinhard From Joerg.Schaible@gft.com Wed Jun 12 04:59:00 2002 From: Joerg.Schaible@gft.com (Schaible, Jorg) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:59:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translati on of scan codes Message-ID: <1264BCF4F426D611B0B00050DA782A50014C26B8@mail.gft.com> >From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function >that returns >the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating >certain non-U.S. >characters? It seems some MS tech folk do not trust WinWord also writing their documentations ... :) From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Wed Jun 12 05:13:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 05:13:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan code References: <3D06EAC7.2554EFFE@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Message-ID: <019701c211fb$e6a59530$65ad34c1@pcvivat> Same test on my French keyboard, same result : just on key is different, the right shift. Thanks for your non-US consideration, Harold :-) CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gilles civario" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: Re: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan code > > Hello. > > Fere is the result of some key pressed on a french keyboard. > > Gilles Civario. > > > $ KeyboardLayoutTest.exe > KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN is the same as tha > t returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call > to GetKeyboardLayout. > > KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: 0000040C > > Locale name: French > > key name: A > vk: 65 msg_sc: 16 mvk_sc: 16 > > key name: Z > vk: 90 msg_sc: 17 mvk_sc: 17 > > key name: E > vk: 69 msg_sc: 18 mvk_sc: 18 > > key name: VERR.MAJ > vk: 20 msg_sc: 58 mvk_sc: 58 > > key name: MAJ > vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 > > Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different > > key name: MAJ DROITE > vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 > > key name: CTRL DROITE > vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 > > key name: CTRL > vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 > > key name: ALT > vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 > > key name: ALT DROITE > vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 > > key name: & > vk: 49 msg_sc: 2 mvk_sc: 2 > > key name: ?? > vk: 50 msg_sc: 3 mvk_sc: 3 > > key name: " > vk: 51 msg_sc: 4 mvk_sc: 4 > > key name: ' > vk: 52 msg_sc: 5 mvk_sc: 5 > > key name: RET.ARR > vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 > > key name: ENTREE > vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 > > key name: INS > vk: 45 msg_sc: 82 mvk_sc: 82 > > key name: SUPPR > vk: 46 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 > > key name: ORIGINE > vk: 36 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 > > key name: FIN > vk: 35 msg_sc: 79 mvk_sc: 79 > > key name: PG.PREC > vk: 33 msg_sc: 73 mvk_sc: 73 > > key name: PG.SUIV > vk: 34 msg_sc: 81 mvk_sc: 81 > > key name: ECHAP > vk: 27 msg_sc: 1 mvk_sc: 1 > > key name: ?? > vk: 222 msg_sc: 41 mvk_sc: 41 > > key name: Ver.Num > vk: 144 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 69 > > key name: 7 (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 103 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 > > key name: . (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 110 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 > > key name: ENTREE (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 > > key name: + (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 107 msg_sc: 78 mvk_sc: 78 > > key name: - (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 109 msg_sc: 74 mvk_sc: 74 > > key name: * (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 106 msg_sc: 55 mvk_sc: 55 > > key name: / (PAVE NUM.) > vk: 111 msg_sc: 53 mvk_sc: 53 > > key name: DEFIL > vk: 145 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 > > key name: ATTN > vk: 3 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 > > key name: HAUT > vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 > > key name: BAS > vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 > > key name: GAUCHE > vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 > > key name: DROITE > vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 > > key name: WINDOWS GAUCHE > vk: 91 msg_sc: 91 mvk_sc: 91 > > key name: WINDOWS DROITE > vk: 92 msg_sc: 92 mvk_sc: 92 > > key name: APPLICATION > vk: 93 msg_sc: 93 mvk_sc: 93 > > key name: F1 > vk: 112 msg_sc: 59 mvk_sc: 59 > > key name: F12 > vk: 123 msg_sc: 88 mvk_sc: 88 > From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Wed Jun 12 06:11:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translati on of scan codes Message-ID: I do not get any TeX sequencenses in any keys for my danish Thinkpad keyboard. There allthough some specific things I observed : No multi-press detected ie. all keypresses are detected as seperate events. AltGr is recorded as CTRL key plus AltGR Sometimes Shift and AltGr seems not to be caught by the program (difficult to reproduce - it might be my keyboard allthough I do not think so...) Here is some examples : KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOW N is the same as that returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call to GetKeyboardLayout. KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: 00000406 Locale name: Danish key name: SKIFT vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 key name: CTRL vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: ALT vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: HOJRE CTRL vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: HOJRE SKIFT vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: HOJRE SKIFT vk: 16 msg_sc: 54 mvk_sc: 42 key name: PIL OP vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 key name: HOJRE PIL vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 key name: VENSTRE PIL vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 key name: PIL NED vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 key name: ? vk: 221 msg_sc: 26 mvk_sc: 26 key name: ? vk: 192 msg_sc: 39 mvk_sc: 39 key name: o vk: 222 msg_sc: 40 mvk_sc: 40 key name: ' vk: 191 msg_sc: 43 mvk_sc: 43 key name: TREMA vk: 186 msg_sc: 27 mvk_sc: 27 key name: ACCENT AIGU vk: 219 msg_sc: 13 mvk_sc: 13 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: PAUSE vk: 19 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 0 Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen "Schaible, Jorg" @cygwin.com on 12-06-2002 12:05:04 Please respond to "Schaible, Jorg" Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: Subject: RE: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translati on of scan codes >From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function >that returns >the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating >certain non-U.S. >characters? It seems some MS tech folk do not trust WinWord also writing their documentations ... :) From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 06:17:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:17:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: So I gave undue credit, ah well, it won't make up for all the times people receive "stank voor dank" (hard to translate: sh*t for thanks). I thought you had found out about phantom key release messages? I have to scan the mailing list in a hurry, there is other work to do. I don't know enough about pseudocolor either, just some Oracle products need it, and at higher depths xdpyinfo shows that XWin delivers truecolor. Before XWin I was using Kea!X, and they had a option that allowed pseudocolor. I didn't get the "I see dead cursors". What is it referring to? Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Jehan [mailto:jehan_something@hotmail.com] Sent: maandag 10 juni 2002 16:47 To: Cygwin XFree Subject: Re: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > couldn't wait, so I went home during the midday-break to fetch it, and > indeed, both problems have mysteriously disappeared. I hope it's not too mysterious or Harold may feel it as an insult to his programming skills!! ;) > Thank you, (and Boy Wonder Jehan, if I followed the mailings correctly). Nope, I didn't do anything about it except reminding Harold. But you're welcome :) > What a pity, do we now have a product that is perfect? No because I see doubled cursors ;) > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm And before you said I was a boy. What make you think that I'm so young? I left school several years ago already. Gosh time is going fast. > could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? Maybe he likes a > little challenge? From a mail from Harold on February: "You CAN run in windowed mode (instead of fullscreen) if you run XWin.exe with the -engine 1 argument and you have Windows in 8 bit color mode: XWin -engine 1" And then, there is several thing that makes it hard for me: - I don't anything about X (what's pseudocolor?) - I don't know anything about DirectDraw (except that it comes with DirectX) - I don't have much time (bascally only week-ends). And besides that, I would be more motivated to work on the multiwindow mode :) > It might keep him from worrying about seeing multiple > cursors? "...I see dead cursors..." Jehan =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From quetschke@scytek.de Wed Jun 12 06:21:00 2002 From: quetschke@scytek.de (Volker Quetschke) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:21:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes References: Message-ID: <3D073611.6040806@scytek.de> Hi Harold! >>Atached you find the log for some keys on a german keyboard. > > Thanks. That pretty much answers my question. Unfortunatly, it did not > give me the answer I was looking for. > > Does anyone else find it interesting that a Win32 API function that returns > the name of a key returns the TeX sequence for creating certain non-U.S. > characters? Sorry, I the file contained some non ascii codes, ??????, and I added the tex comment to document the keys I pressed. Volker From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 07:05:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:05:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: Please call me Geert or Gerard, only my friends call me by my surname ;-) I prefer using XWin fullscreen if I need pseudocolor, to running Windows 8 bit. And I only need it rarely, just for one Oracle product (reports). Anyway, for that purpose I've confiscated an old portable and I'm putting Redhat on it, so I can use that when I need pseudocolor. Keep up the good hacking, Gerard -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: maandag 10 juni 2002 18:26 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Pille, > Ah, I know something. Maybe Jehan, in his youthful enthousiasm, could > provide us with pseudocolor without going fullscreen? We have pseudocolor without going fullscreen. You have to use the GDI DIB- based engine, which is engine 1. For example: XWin -engine 1 Of course, you have to be running Windows at 8 bits per pixel to start with. On the other hand, if you are talking about supporting multiple visual types, that seems to be the promise of Keith Packard's Layer extension. Unfortunately, the layer extension is as well documented as the randr (resize and rotate) extension and the shadow extension: that is to say, not at all. (At least it is not documented from a server implementors perspective.) I've tried telling layer to create some new visual types but I was never successful. Harold =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 08:50:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Message-ID: Performance problem solved, but copies only from windoze to XWin (probably that is why it's only 8K as to the 30K original). Tested running XWin fullscreen. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: dinsdag 11 juni 2002 2:25 To: Eric Peabody; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Eric, Please try the xwinclip-Test04 that I just released. I think it will fix your problem. Please report your results to the mailing list. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ Thanks, Harold =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com Wed Jun 12 09:35:00 2002 From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd)) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:35:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-test04 Message-ID: cuts and pastes both ways when not running fullscreen. performance problem remains solved. xwinclip-test04 dumpes core when XWin runs fullscreen, but only after a while. Here ends our transmission. Gerard. =============================== This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. From geek@burri.to Wed Jun 12 09:53:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:53:00 -0000 Subject: Trivial Feature Request: beep() In-Reply-To: <200206111830.g5BIUBI77752@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111830.g5BIUBI77752@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <2635.128.2.120.244.1023887815.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt said: > Okay. Do you have a sound-card or just a pc speaker on the machine > that you use Cygwin/XFree86 on? Sound card (well, Crystal Audio built-in, it's a laptop). > If you've got a sound card and you have your Windows sounds > configured so that no sound is played for the Default Beep, then > you certainly won't here anything. Go into the Control > Panel->Sounds and check that you have a sound configured. Click > the play button and make sure that you hear the sound when it is > played. Then run Cygwin/XFree86 and confirm that you do not hear > the sound. Definitely. The "Default Beep" is set and plays correctly. But there's no sound within XFree. > I just did a test on a machine running Windows NT 4.0 without a > sound card. "echo -c \\a" caused a pc speaker beep from both a > Cygwin bash shell and from an xterm under Cygwin/XFree86. The two > beeps were of a different pitch though... weird. If I start up bash.exe using the WinXP explorer, I can get it to beep. If I start up an rxvt instead, no beep. Inside XFree, no beep. I find no reference to beep in any of my app-defaults file (or the system ones, for that matter). xrdb -query reveals nothing useful, either. Frankly, I'm baffled. From geek@burri.to Wed Jun 12 10:00:00 2002 From: geek@burri.to (Brian Gallew) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) In-Reply-To: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <4868.128.2.120.244.1023888040.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Harold L Hunt said: > Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. > Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message > somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. Most likely he's using MS Outlook and/or MS Exchange. They're famouns for adding ms-tnef bits to messages. It *can* be disabled, but I have no idea how to do it myself. I just know that the vendors who still do business with me have all figured out how to do it. The ones who couldn't figure it out no longer do business with me. From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 10:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:36:00 -0000 Subject: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe running Message-ID: <200206121405.g5CE5Eo29128@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Gerard, I've been able to copy both directions. Have you tried a simple copy operation in X, like selecting text with the mouse in an xterm? (Notice that the selected text will immediately be unselected... that is xwinclip grabbing the text and copying it to the Windows clipboard) Harold "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" said: > Performance problem solved, but copies only from windoze to XWin (probably > that is why it's only 8K as to the 30K original). Tested running XWin > fullscreen. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: dinsdag 11 juni 2002 2:25 > To: Eric Peabody; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Slow application launch in Outlook with xwinclip.exe > running > > > Eric, > > Please try the xwinclip-Test04 that I just released. I think it will fix > your problem. > > Please report your results to the mailing list. > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ > > Thanks, > > Harold > > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email that the intended recipient was not reached. > > From jehan_something@hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 10:43:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock References: Message-ID: <3D076DC8.3010804@hotmail.com> Pille Geert (bkarnd) wrote: > So I gave undue credit, ah well, it won't make up for all the times people > receive "stank voor dank" (hard to translate: sh*t for thanks). I thought > you had found out about phantom key release messages? I have to scan the > mailing list in a hurry, there is other work to do. I just wanted to make it clear. I didn't want to steal any credit. But thanks for the thought :) > I didn't get the "I see dead cursors". What is it referring to? As Sylvain mentioned, it's a reference to "The 6th Sense" where the little boy says "I see dead people". For some reason, each time I hear/read "I see " I can't help to think about this reference. And since I'm seing cursor that, to me, should not be visible (sort of ghost cursors)..... Jehan From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Wed Jun 12 12:10:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:10:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A412@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > thanks). I thought > > you had found out about phantom key release messages? I > have to scan the > > mailing list in a hurry, there is other work to do. > > I just wanted to make it clear. I didn't want to steal any > credit. But > thanks for the thought :) The phantom key release fix was mine. > (sort of ghost cursors)..... You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - now I keep seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). Stuart From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 12:46:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:46:00 -0000 Subject: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A412@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: > > (sort of ghost cursors)..... > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - now I keep > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). However this gets fixed, just make sure that the behavior is configurable via a command-line parameter and have the default be the current behavior. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 13:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:18:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. This is a synchronization with all the fixes that have been applied Server Test Series - Test 57. These fixes are listed below: 1) winwndproc.c - Call DefWindowProc after processing WM_NCMOUSEMOVE messages. This should fix the highlighting of the minimize and exit buttons in Windows XP. (Jehan Bing) 2) winwndproc.c, win.h, winallpriv.c - Make the cursor state variable, fCursor, a static local variable in winwndproc.c/winWindowProc (), rather than a member variable in the winPrivScreenRec structure. This makes sense because the Windows cursor is either hidden or shown, as Windows does not hide or show the mouse cursor on a per-window basis. This also greatly simplifies the handling of hiding and showing the Windows mouse cursor. (Jehan Bing) 3) InitOutput.c, win.h, wincreatewnd.c - Add a -nodecoration parameter that creates the Cygwin/XFree86 window that is the same size as the desktop, without a border. The end effect is that you can still get to the taskbar (even with Auto Hide enabled) and easily switch to other application while not giving up any screen space to the title bar, borders, etc. (Jehan Bing) 4) winkeybd.c - Disregard the bogus key releases that we see when losing the focus via Alt+Tab. (Stuart Adamson) 5) win.h, winkeybd.h, winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c - Release all pressed keys when the X server loses the keyboard focus. (Stuart Adamson) 6) InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) 7) wincursor.c - See if we are the foreground window before warping the Windows cursor position. This fixes the new bug that occurs if you launch Cygwin/XFree86 and give another application the focus. In that case the Windows mouse cursor would still jump to the center of the screen, even though the Cygwin/XFree86 window was not active. (Harold Hunt) 8) winkeybd.h - Fix the bug where pressing both shift keys then releasing them both would still cause all keyboard input to be shift-modified. The fix was to set the fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT key to KEY_ShiftL. (Harold Hunt) 9) wincreatewnd.c - Pass SW_SHOWNORMAL instead of SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when running a DirectDraw engine in fullscreen mode. This fixes the bug where launching Cygwin/XFree86 then giving another application the focus before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed would cause Cygwin/XFree86 to never display a window or register a window handle on the Windows taskbar. (Harold Hunt) -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 15:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 05 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 05 to the xwinclip development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test05.exe.bz2 (4 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020612-1316.tar.bz2 (8 KB) Changes: 1) xwinclip.c - Break this single source file into xwinclip.c, textconv.c, textconv.h, wndproc.c, wndproc.h, xevents.c, and xevents.h. (Harold Hunt) 2) xwinclip.c - Pause and loop to retry, after a delay, if we fail while opening the display. (Harold Hunt) 3) xwinclip.c - Remove a call to XSelectInput that was operating on our own window and always returning BadWindow. Apparently the event mask for our own window has to be changed with XChangeWindowAttributes. I've put a #if0'd example of using XChangeWindowAttributes into the file. (Harold Hunt) 4) xwinclip.c - Remove a call to XFlush. It doesn't seem necessary to flush any events in our queue before we start processing events. However, I may have read somewhere that we have to do this, so I may have to re-add this call to XFlush later. (Harold Hunt) 5) xwinclip.c - Create an atom for WM_DELETE_WINDOW. This will get is an X event when a window manager is about to kill us. However, it does nothing for the case where the server is told to GiveUp (). (Harold Hunt) 6) xwinclip.c - In CreateMessagingWindow, add a call to ShowWindow passing SW_HIDE and add a call to UpdateWindow. I'm not sure, but these may be necessary to kick off Windows event processing. On a strange note - the current xwinclip doesn't process any Windows messages. (Harold Hunt) 7) xevents.c - Add handling for WM_DELETE_WINDOW. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 12 16:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:02:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-test04 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gerard, How long is awhile? 20 seconds or 30 minutes? If it dumps core after 20 seconds then it is because XWin.exe is taking too long to launch so OpenDisplay fails. Test05 fixes that problem. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd) > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:11 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: xwinclip-test04 > > > cuts and pastes both ways when not running fullscreen. > > performance problem remains solved. > > xwinclip-test04 dumpes core when XWin runs fullscreen, but only after a > while. > > Here ends our transmission. > > Gerard. > > > =============================== > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have > received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > You are explicitly requested to notify the sender of this email > that the intended recipient was not reached. > From jehan@bravobrava.com Wed Jun 12 17:25:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:25:00 -0000 Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-key s = caps-lock References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A412@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <3D079C9A.3050605@bravobrava.com> >>(sort of ghost cursors)..... > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - now I keep > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). I did but without configuration so Harold removed that part from the code. But it's easy to redo (remove cursor processing from WM_ACTIVATE and WM_ACTIVATEAPP and don't check for pScreenPriv->fActive in WM_MOUVEMOVE). I won't do it until next week-end so if you want to look at it before that, feel free. Jehan From milind@sybase.com Wed Jun 12 20:31:00 2002 From: milind@sybase.com (Milind Potdar) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:31:00 -0000 Subject: Question about running interactive program in xterm session Message-ID: <200206121946.g5CJkcg12793@lancaster.sybase.com> Environment - ----------- NT 4.0 xterm version 4.2.0(165) What I am trying to do ---------------------- Run isql ( interactive sql ) When you run isql interactively, you get a prompt 1> Behaviour --------- If I open xterm session & try to run isql, all the prompts from isql "do not" come to screen. But otherwise it behaves perfectly ok. ie you input sql commands & get back results. It is as if there is some special buffer which stores whatever isql is prompting but it is not getting flushed. At the same time sql command results come back & are visible. >From normal cygwin command shell, there is no problem with isql execution. Has anyone experienced similar problem ? Is there any xterm property which needs to be set to make this work ? Thanks in advance for any help Milind .. From fbregier@webmails.com Wed Jun 12 22:01:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:01:00 -0000 Subject: Error: can't load javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel Message-ID: <20020612142332.14093.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Wed Jun 12 22:29:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:29:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receiv es tab / pressing both...) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFB8@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Okay - attached is a patch which does this. I've tested it with and without the -nodecoration flag (the windows mouse pointer still appears when you're over the windows title bar). Added an entry to the man page as well. The magic command line argument is -hidewindowspointerwheninactive. Somebody might be able to come up with a slightly nicer name ;) In InitOutput.c I've initialized the ScreenInfo member for it to false as fFullScreen is also initialized to false - however I don't think either of these are needed as ZeroMemory() is called on the structure which should do this for us. Was this an oversight when adding fFullScreen or is it like this to aid readability? Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: 12 June 2002 17:53 > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / > pressing both...) > > > > > (sort of ghost cursors)..... > > > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - > now I keep > > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). > > However this gets fixed, just make sure that the behavior is > configurable > via a command-line parameter and have the default be the > current behavior. > > Harold > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mousehide.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3577 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jehan_something@hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 22:33:00 2002 From: jehan_something@hotmail.com (Jehan) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:33:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receiv es tab / pressing both...) References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFB8@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <3D07D317.6030302@hotmail.com> Stuart Adamson wrote: > The magic command line argument is -hidewindowspointerwheninactive. > Somebody might > be able to come up with a slightly nicer name ;) What about "-noghostcursor" ? That's not very self-explanatory but if the man page and the help parameter give enough explanation, it may work. Or what about "-iwanttoseenodeadcursor"? It's slightly shorter ;) > In InitOutput.c I've initialized the ScreenInfo member for it to false as > fFullScreen > is also initialized to false - however I don't think either of these are > needed as > ZeroMemory() is called on the structure which should do this for us. > Was this an oversight when adding fFullScreen or is it like this to aid > readability? To me, it's always better to have explicit initialization, it makes thing clearer to see. ZeroMemory is good either for time critical sections (and initialization isn't) or for those who forget to initialize their variable but it's quite obfuscating. If one wants to know where a variable is initialized, he will look for the variable name. With ZeroMem, he won't find anything. Moreover, if he want to change the default value of some thing (let say fHideWindowsPointerWhenInactive ;)), he won't have to search for the place where to put the code (even if in our case it's obvious). And since Harold (and any good programmer I think) wants to make to code easy to ready, I thinks explicit initialization is the best. And if one of the two way should go away, I vote for removing ZeroMem. :) Jehan From haro@tt.kubota.co.jp Wed Jun 12 22:39:00 2002 From: haro@tt.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:39:00 -0000 Subject: KeyboardTestLayout - See if we can get an automatic translation of scan codes Message-ID: <3D07E734.5472B1FA@tt.kubota.co.jp> Hello Harold and All, Here's the output from Japanese keyboard. I hope it helps, Thank you, Haro =----------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Kubota Graphics Technology Inc. /|\ |_| |_|_| 2-8-8 Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0022, Japan Tel: +81-3-3225-0931 Fax: +81-3-3225-0749 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp -------------- next part -------------- KeyboardLayoutTest - Checking if the scan code sent with WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN is the same as that returned by MapVirtualKeyEx when passed the handle to the current keyboard layout gotten by a call to GetKeyboardLayout. KeyboardLayoutTest - Current keyboard layout name: e0200411 Locale name: Japanese key name: A vk: 65 msg_sc: 30 mvk_sc: 30 key name: 1 vk: 49 msg_sc: 2 mvk_sc: 2 key name: \ vk: 220 msg_sc: 125 mvk_sc: 125 key name: ^ vk: 222 msg_sc: 13 mvk_sc: 13 key name: - vk: 189 msg_sc: 12 mvk_sc: 12 key name: Backspace vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 key name: Enter vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: Esc vk: 27 msg_sc: 1 mvk_sc: 1 key name: F1 vk: 112 msg_sc: 59 mvk_sc: 59 key name: Scroll Lock vk: 145 msg_sc: 70 mvk_sc: 70 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: Pause vk: 19 msg_sc: 69 mvk_sc: 0 key name: Insert vk: 45 msg_sc: 82 mvk_sc: 82 key name: Home vk: 36 msg_sc: 71 mvk_sc: 71 key name: Page Up vk: 33 msg_sc: 73 mvk_sc: 73 key name: Delete vk: 46 msg_sc: 83 mvk_sc: 83 key name: End vk: 35 msg_sc: 79 mvk_sc: 79 key name: Page Down vk: 34 msg_sc: 81 mvk_sc: 81 key name: Left vk: 37 msg_sc: 75 mvk_sc: 75 key name: Down vk: 40 msg_sc: 80 mvk_sc: 80 key name: Right vk: 39 msg_sc: 77 mvk_sc: 77 key name: Up vk: 38 msg_sc: 72 mvk_sc: 72 key name: Backspace vk: 8 msg_sc: 14 mvk_sc: 14 key name: Enter vk: 13 msg_sc: 28 mvk_sc: 28 key name: Right Control vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: Application vk: 93 msg_sc: 93 mvk_sc: 93 key name: Right Windows vk: 92 msg_sc: 92 mvk_sc: 92 key name: Right Alt vk: 18 msg_sc: 56 mvk_sc: 56 key name: Ctrl vk: 17 msg_sc: 29 mvk_sc: 29 key name: Shift vk: 16 msg_sc: 42 mvk_sc: 42 key name: Tab vk: 9 msg_sc: 15 mvk_sc: 15 Whoa there!! These next scan codes are different key name: ??/?? vk: 229 msg_sc: 41 mvk_sc: 0 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Wed Jun 12 22:49:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:49:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin Message-ID: <20020613033112.63074.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi there, looking on cygwin.com/packages show there isn't a package for gtk. 1/ does it compile for now ? 2/ if ok, why haven't we a package for that ? I looked on cygwin & cygwin-xfree archives and didn't find a thread on it. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From eugenius@xis.com.au Wed Jun 12 23:14:00 2002 From: eugenius@xis.com.au (Eugene Rosenzweig) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:14:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) References: <200206111833.g5BIXCI45326@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> <4868.128.2.120.244.1023888040.squirrel@mail.burri.to> Message-ID: <046701c21297$6ae8ab70$0300a8c0@bluebox> Explanation and fix for the ms-tnef attachments: http://help.netscape.com/kb/consumer/19981102-1.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Gallew" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:20 PM Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 04 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) > Harold L Hunt said: > > Eric Peabody's messages are getting bounced by the list server. > > Apparently his mail server is changing the format of the message > > somehow. Anyway, his reply is below. > > Most likely he's using MS Outlook and/or MS Exchange. They're famouns > for adding ms-tnef bits to messages. It *can* be disabled, but I have > no idea how to do it myself. I just know that the vendors who still > do business with me have all figured out how to do it. > The ones who couldn't figure it out no longer do business with me. > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 00:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:18:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 58 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 58 package via setup.exe by pointing setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory on your favorite mirror. For example, you could point setup.exe at: http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test58.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020613-0102.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) InitOutput.c, XWin.man, win.h, winwndproc.c - Add the -lesspointer command line parameter which causes Cygwin/XFree86 to hide the Windows mouse cursor when the mouse is over any Cygwin/XFree86 window (whether activated or not). (Stuart Adamson) Enjoy, Harold From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 13 00:19:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:19:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020613053412.GA18360@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 01:29:42AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >I just posted Test 58 to the server development page: >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Harold, Why not just install the latest server test packages in the normal cygwin place but mark it as "test" in setup.hint? Then you can download them just by running setup.exe and point to any mirror. Then you wouldn't need a separate setup.ini file. This would allow people to download the latest test version but it wouldn't give you any history, of course. I.e., when you make Test 58 available, people will no longer be able to retrieve Test 57 via the normal mechanism. I don't recall this being suggested before. Apologies if this has already been discussed. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 00:50:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:50:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFB8@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, Excellent. I've applied this to Server Test Series - Test 58, which I have just released. I don't think it's necessary to change the logic in the WM_ACTIVATEAPP message, cause we're going to want to reshow (on inactivation) the cursor regardless of whether we are hiding when we are over an inactive Cygwin/XFree86 window or not. Failing to reshow could cause the cursor to disappear for other Windows clients (by screwing up the cursor show/hide count). Actually... I just realized that we probably should change the current behavior to *not* hide the Windows cursor when we receive a WM_ACTIVATEAPP or WM_ACTIVATE message that tells us we are activating. The reason for this is that the user can be running a very small Cygwin/XFree86 window that is far away from the taskbar and when they click on the Cygwin/XFree86 icon in the taskbar we're going to hide the cursor, whereas the cursor has not yet crossed (any may never cross) our window. On the other hand, we always want to show the cursor if we receive an inavtivation message. I think I'm gonna go change that logic and stick it into Test 58 before anyone downloads it. :) I like to be sneaky like that because it takes about an hour to do all the release announcements, etc. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Adamson > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:21 PM > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window > receives tab / pressing both...) > > > Okay - attached is a patch which does this. I've tested it with > and without > the > -nodecoration flag (the windows mouse pointer still appears when > you're over > the > windows title bar). Added an entry to the man page as well. > > The magic command line argument is -hidewindowspointerwheninactive. > Somebody might > be able to come up with a slightly nicer name ;) > > In InitOutput.c I've initialized the ScreenInfo member for it to false as > fFullScreen > is also initialized to false - however I don't think either of these are > needed as > ZeroMemory() is called on the structure which should do this for us. > Was this an oversight when adding fFullScreen or is it like this to aid > readability? > > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > Sent: 12 June 2002 17:53 > > To: Cygwin XFree > > Subject: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / > > pressing both...) > > > > > > > > (sort of ghost cursors)..... > > > > > > You know - this never bothered me until you mentioned it - > > now I keep > > > seeing it and it's really annoying ;( Are you / have you fixed this > > > or shall I? (I'm currently running Test 57). > > > > However this gets fixed, just make sure that the behavior is > > configurable > > via a command-line parameter and have the default be the > > current behavior. > > > > Harold > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 01:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:02:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: <20020613053412.GA18360@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, > Why not just install the latest server test packages in the normal > cygwin place but mark it as "test" in setup.hint? > I don't recall this being suggested before. Apologies if this has already > been discussed. Oh, I'm aware that that functionality is there... but I have been trying to avoid looking for the docs on it or an example setup.hint for it. You know, the old "beer or coding" conflict... Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 01:08:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:08:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Stuart, Naturally, now that I have applied the -lesspointer patch I have remembered why we switched away from hiding the Windows mouse cursor when we were inactive. The reason goes like this: 1) User has a Cygwin/XFree86 window that is away from the task bar. 2) User activates the Cygwin/XFree86 window to bring it to the top, though the window is small (say 640x480 on a 1024x768 screen) so it doesn't cover all other windows. 3) Now the user activates another application via the taskbar, say a Cygwin bash shell. This other application does not completely cover the Cygwin/XFree86 window. 4) The user moves the mouse into the Cygwin/XFree86 window, without clicking, thus hiding the mouse cursor but not activating the Cygwin/XFree86 window. 5) A popup window from another application grabs the focus and either the popup window covers the area underneath the mouse or the user moves the mouse into the popup window in such a way as to not cross the non-client area of the Cygwin/XFree86 window. 6) At this point Cygwin/XFree86 should no longer be hiding the mouse cursor because a) we aren't active and b) the mouse cursor is not over our window. However, our only way of detecting that the mouse pointer has left our window when we are inactive is to watch for the non-client area mouse messages. In this test case we never see a non-client area mouse message so we never show the cursor. I can't remember if this actually causes the Windows cursor to not be shown for the popup window or not. It may depend entirely on the version of Windows, or it may depend on the popup window, etc. All I can say is that the -lesspointer parameter is your guy's baby and I'll send people to you if they complain about -lesspointer causing their cursor to disappear over other Windows windows. :) I think the very simple method to make -lesspointer more robust is to call TrackMouseEvent with the TME_LEAVE flag when we get our first client area mouse message. Then when the mouse leaves our client area (and I'm assuming that a popup covering the area underneath the mouse qualifies as leaving the client area) we will get a WM_MOUSELEAVE message. We can simply show the Windows mouse cursor if it is being hidden at that time. Simple, eh? Harold From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Thu Jun 13 02:21:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:21:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin Xstart problems also Message-ID: You missed the point of installing using the Unix text type which ensures that you are mounting the font directory in binary mode. The URL is http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Please remember to answer to the mialinglist instead of me directly.... Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen "James L. Olds" on 12-06-2002 21:46:39 Please respond to "James L. Olds" To: Franz Wolfhagen/Denmark/IBM@IBMDK cc: Subject: Cygwin Xstart problems also I've carefully read the FAQ and I still can't get X to start on my machine. It used to, that's the weird thing (using startxwin). My log file is enclosed. I'm wondering if you can point me in the right direction. I did have to reinstall W2K and X a few weeks ago and that's when things started not working. Jim Olds From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 02:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:35:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nevermind, I just implemented the patch that I was talking about below. However, I'm getting a strange problem where if I pass any 0 argument parameters (e.g. -lesspointer) to XWin.exe and I start with 'start XWin' on Windows 2000 then my log file only contains two lines: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 If I start with 'start /B XWin' then the log is normal. I don't understand what is going on here. Maybe I've just done too many compiles and I need to restart my computer. Or maybe I need to go to bed... Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:15 AM > To: cygx > Subject: RE: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window > receives tab / pressing both...) > > > Stuart, > > Naturally, now that I have applied the -lesspointer patch I have > remembered > why we switched away from hiding the Windows mouse cursor when we were > inactive. The reason goes like this: > > 1) User has a Cygwin/XFree86 window that is away from the task bar. > > 2) User activates the Cygwin/XFree86 window to bring it to the top, though > the window is small (say 640x480 on a 1024x768 screen) so it doesn't cover > all other windows. > > 3) Now the user activates another application via the taskbar, > say a Cygwin > bash shell. This other application does not completely cover the > Cygwin/XFree86 window. > > 4) The user moves the mouse into the Cygwin/XFree86 window, without > clicking, thus hiding the mouse cursor but not activating the > Cygwin/XFree86 > window. > > 5) A popup window from another application grabs the focus and either the > popup window covers the area underneath the mouse or the user moves the > mouse into the popup window in such a way as to not cross the non-client > area of the Cygwin/XFree86 window. > > 6) At this point Cygwin/XFree86 should no longer be hiding the > mouse cursor > because a) we aren't active and b) the mouse cursor is not over > our window. > However, our only way of detecting that the mouse pointer has left our > window when we are inactive is to watch for the non-client area mouse > messages. In this test case we never see a non-client area mouse > message so > we never show the cursor. > > > I can't remember if this actually causes the Windows cursor to > not be shown > for the popup window or not. It may depend entirely on the version of > Windows, or it may depend on the popup window, etc. > > All I can say is that the -lesspointer parameter is your guy's > baby and I'll > send people to you if they complain about -lesspointer causing > their cursor > to disappear over other Windows windows. :) > > I think the very simple method to make -lesspointer more robust is to call > TrackMouseEvent with the TME_LEAVE flag when we get our first client area > mouse message. Then when the mouse leaves our client area (and > I'm assuming > that a popup covering the area underneath the mouse qualifies as > leaving the > client area) we will get a WM_MOUSELEAVE message. We can simply show the > Windows mouse cursor if it is being hidden at that time. Simple, eh? > > > Harold > From ecognito1@earthcorp.com Thu Jun 13 03:04:00 2002 From: ecognito1@earthcorp.com (E) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 03:04:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020613174800.00a18d40@192.168.1.1> Hi, I was wondering what the status was of using the cygwin xfree server in a multi-windowed mode (ie Opening a MS-Windows window for each X client window instead of a single window for the X desktop). I've browsed the FAQ, website, and did a few searches of the archives for this list, but couldn't find anything recent or definitive on the status of this feature. Thanks. E. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 03:09:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 03:09:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020613174800.00a18d40@192.168.1.1> Message-ID: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00086.html > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of E > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:50 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Status of multi-windowed server > > > Hi, > > I was wondering what the status was of using the cygwin xfree server in a > multi-windowed mode (ie Opening a MS-Windows window for each X client > window instead of a single window for the X desktop). > > I've browsed the FAQ, website, and did a few searches of the archives for > this list, but couldn't find anything recent or definitive on the > status of > this feature. > > Thanks. > > E. > From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 05:11:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: Indenting ... Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFBB@ldnisp14.evolution.net> What's the official indenting system for code used by XFree86 (or at least the hw/xwin part of it)? Is there an astyle or similar spec file for it? Stuart From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Jun 13 05:35:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:35:00 -0000 Subject: bitmap problems with irix 6.5 Message-ID: <002701c212bb$bfd13b60$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi all, I'm trying to use xfree as a replacement for exceed installations. It works well in most cases, but one issue I've found is that in the irix system manager and other applications some bitmaps are not displayed right like shown in the appended screenshots. I've found this behavior with all resolution modes x8, x16, x32 and all usable engines (1,2,4). Looking in the mailing list shows that this topic seems not to discussed ealier. Does anyone have an idea, if this is an configuration problem or could be a bug in the xserver ? Ralf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: exceed.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2850 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xfree.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2468 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 05:48:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:48:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window re ceives tab / pressing both...) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A414@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Certainly under Win2000 the cursor always gets displayed (I've commented out every ShowCursor(TRUE) statement and the cursor still gets displayed whenever we leave the window.) This is what I'd expect as ShowCursor shouldn't really apply globally. I understand your concern about what it might do on older versions of windows though. > However, I'm getting a strange problem where if I pass any 0 argument > parameters (e.g. -lesspointer) to XWin.exe and I start with > 'start XWin' on > Windows 2000 then my log file only contains two lines: hum - same here, expect it's if I pass *any* parameters to start XWin without using /B. I commented out FreeConsole() in case that was closing something it shouldn't - but that didn't seem to make any difference. Stuart From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jun 13 05:57:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:57:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: <20020613053412.GA18360@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote: > Why not just install the latest server test packages in the normal > cygwin place but mark it as "test" in setup.hint? > > Then you can download them just by running setup.exe and point to any > mirror. Then you wouldn't need a separate setup.ini file. But the mirrors are not updated instantly. The test release would need about one day to spread to the mirrors. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jun 13 06:03:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:03:00 -0000 Subject: Indenting ... In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFBB@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Stuart Adamson wrote: > What's the official indenting system for code used by XFree86 (or at least > the hw/xwin part of it)? Is there an astyle or similar spec file for it? Harold once told me to use the indent command from emacs, which in fact a simple run of the indent program on the sourcecode. Simply: $ indent win_xxx.c bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 06:07:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > But on the overall, I don't think it's really the way to go. Again, I > don't known much about X so it may not be reasonable but what about > creating a Windows window for each X window? This would allow each X App > to appear in the taskbar like any Windows application. This is how eXceed works and it makes more sense to me. When I'm working in rootless mode - typically I won't be running a window manager. I expect the X windows to act and behave just like the windows windows. So we need to trap all window open, close, resize events and pass them to our code which creates / closes / resizes native windows windows. It does seem like this might get a bit complex (we would have to hold the hwnd of each window in the windows private and use that to decide what needs updating and when). The windows message loop will need to do some demux'ing as well. Stuart From jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be Thu Jun 13 06:50:00 2002 From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be (jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:50:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard Message-ID: <1023971755.3d0891abd079b@webmail2.wanadoo.be> Hello, I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is working perfectly well except the fact that I can not change the keyboard from Qwerty to Azerty. I have not found any explanations in the documentation. Any help? Thanks, J??r??me Stefanini From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 13 06:52:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A416@ldnisp14.evolution.net> You want to run xmodmap. In my startxwin.bat I do start /B XWin -loads of options here start /B xmodmap.exe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk start /B icewm.exe Type "man xmodmap" for more details. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be [mailto:jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be] > Sent: 13 June 2002 13:36 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > Hello, > > I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is working > perfectly well except > the fact that I can not change the keyboard from Qwerty to > Azerty. I have not > found any explanations in the documentation. > > Any help? > > Thanks, > > J?r?me Stefanini > From robert.collins@syncretize.net Thu Jun 13 06:57:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:57:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <008b01c212d9$e9b9b420$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Adamson > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 10:11 PM > It does seem like this might get a bit complex (we would have > to hold the > hwnd > of each window in the windows private and use that to decide > what needs > updating > and when). Yes, but the X infrastructure for this is excellent. I had it mostly working, but looking crap due to the decorations, and not choosing which windows to show on the taskbar terribly cluefully. Alan has various patches from me. Unfortunately, my personal time completely dried up without much warning a couple of months ago, and I haven't gotten back to that. > The windows message loop will need to do some > demux'ing as well. Hmm, could do, but didn't seem to need it. Rob From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Jun 13 07:03:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:03:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <008b01c212d9$e9b9b420$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> <008b01c212d9$e9b9b420$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20020613130344.GE1109@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:57:44PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > Yes, but the X infrastructure for this is excellent. I had it mostly > working, but looking crap due to the decorations, and not choosing which > windows to show on the taskbar terribly cluefully. Alan has various > patches from me. Unfortunately, my personal time completely dried up > without much warning a couple of months ago, and I haven't gotten back > to that. Unfortunately I didn't get the full set of patches which really did the rootless modes. If you want to create a full diff - I'm sure someone will look at them. Alan. From robert.collins@syncretize.net Thu Jun 13 07:15:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:15:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <20020613130344.GE1109@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <008f01c212db$4099e340$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Alan Hourihane > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 11:04 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: How to start messing around with creating a > rootless mode... > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:57:44PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > Yes, but the X infrastructure for this is excellent. I had it mostly > > working, but looking crap due to the decorations, and not > choosing which > > windows to show on the taskbar terribly cluefully. Alan has various > > patches from me. Unfortunately, my personal time completely dried up > > without much warning a couple of months ago, and I haven't > gotten back > > to that. > > Unfortunately I didn't get the full set of patches which really did > the rootless modes. > > If you want to create a full diff - I'm sure someone will > look at them. I'll see what I can do shortly. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 07:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:35:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A415@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, > > But on the overall, I don't think it's really the way to go. Again, I > > don't known much about X so it may not be reasonable but what about > > creating a Windows window for each X window? This would allow > each X App > > to appear in the taskbar like any Windows application. > > This is how eXceed works and it makes more sense to me. When I'm working > in rootless mode - typically I won't be running a window manager. Right. That is exactly why I described the method of getting started as I did: because everything you do for drawing in rootless mode will still be needed when you are drawing to individual windows. Say what? That's right, you're still going to have to have a method of drawing the root window as transparent and setting the clipping region of the root window to nothing when the server looses the focus. Once you've got it so that twm can draw windows that "float" above the Windows desktop, then you can start worrying about holding hwnd's to individual windows, etc. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 07:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:43:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: <008f01c212db$4099e340$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: Robert, I totally forgot that you had worked on a rootless mode. I'd definitely be interested in seeing the patches. Thanks, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 10:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both...) In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A414@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, > Certainly under Win2000 the cursor always gets displayed (I've > commented out > every ShowCursor(TRUE) statement and the cursor still gets displayed > whenever > we leave the window.) This is what I'd expect as ShowCursor shouldn't > really > apply globally. I understand your concern about what it might do on older > versions > of windows though. Yes, I seem to remember that older versions of Windows do not do the right thing with respect to cursor hiding. > hum - same here, expect it's if I pass *any* parameters to start XWin > without using /B. I commented out FreeConsole() in case that was > closing something it shouldn't - but that didn't seem to make any > difference. The problem turned out to be something that must have existed for a long time. You are right that the calls to FreeConsole are no longer needed, as we are passing flags to the linker in xc/programs/Xserver/Imakefile that tell the linker to make us a Windows application without a console. The problem was that, for some unknown reason, the file handle to the log file becomes invalid in the case where you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin' and any number of arguments after that. My solution for the time is pragmatic, but I'd like to get to the bottom of this eventually. For now I just reopen the log file handle in OsVendorInit if it was opened in ddxProcessArgument: void OsVendorInit (void) { ErrorF ("OsVendorInit - 1\n"); #ifdef DDXOSVERRORF OsVendorVErrorFProc = OsVendorVErrorF; /* Open log file if not yet open */ if (g_pfLog == NULL) g_pfLog = fopen (WIN_LOG_FNAME, "w"); else { /* Close log file */ fclose (g_pfLog); g_pfLog = fopen (WIN_LOG_FNAME, "a+"); } #endif ... } From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 12:19:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:19:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander, > > Then you can download them just by running setup.exe and point to any > > mirror. Then you wouldn't need a separate setup.ini file. > > But the mirrors are not updated instantly. The test release would need > about one day to spread to the mirrors. Chris was referring to the fact that, in addition to placing the test release stand-alone files (e.g., XWin-Test58.exe.bz2) on my msu.edu site and distributing them via the sources.redhat.com network, I have also been placing a modified XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-?.tar.bz2 for Cygwin's setup.exe in cygwin/xfree/release/XFree86/XFree86-xserv/. Chris was saying that instead of telling users to point setup.exe to that other directory I could just put the test package in the normal directory and mark it as 'test' in setup.hint. Hope that clears things up, Harold From nwourms@yahoo.com Thu Jun 13 12:55:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:55:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020613141520.28637.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Chris was referring to the fact that, in addition to placing the test > release stand-alone files (e.g., XWin-Test58.exe.bz2) on my msu.edu site > and > distributing them via the sources.redhat.com network, I have also been > placing a modified XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-?.tar.bz2 for Cygwin's setup.exe > in > cygwin/xfree/release/XFree86/XFree86-xserv/. Chris was saying that > instead > of telling users to point setup.exe to that other directory I could just > put > the test package in the normal directory and mark it as 'test' in > setup.hint. > > Hope that clears things up, Harold, Implementing the test-release in setup.exe is real easy. Take, for example, the setup.hint of GDB: sdesc: "The GNU Debugger" category: Devel requires: cygwin termcap test: 20020411-1 curr: 20010428-3 That's all there is to it :-). FWIW, I think CGF's suggestion is a good one, as it makes it much easier to deal with... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From robert.collins@syncretize.net Thu Jun 13 14:23:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:23:00 -0000 Subject: How to start messing around with creating a rootless mode... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a501c212e7$9663e670$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Enjoy. YMWV, as this is against somewhat old sourceforge CVS. I'm also not sure what quality I left it in :}. At a minimum it should provide food for thought. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 11:53 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: How to start messing around with creating a > rootless mode... > > > Robert, > > I totally forgot that you had worked on a rootless mode. I'd > definitely be > interested in seeing the patches. > > Thanks, > > Harold > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: rootless.patch.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11459 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 13 18:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: Icons show normally at 32 bpp when RENDER, LAYER, and RANDR are disabled Message-ID: <200206131443.g5DEh6327408@pilot12.cl.msu.edu> I just built Cygwin/XFree86 with RENDER, LAYER, and RANDR disabled. I can log on to KDE 3.0 running on a remote machine with the Windows display set to 32 bits per pixel and all the KDE icons display correctly. It looks like Waldo was right-on about the alpha channel problems. I was intially trying to disable just RENDER, but then something it layer failed to build when I disabled RENDER, so I had to disable LAYER and RANDR as well. Now we just need to find out if RENDER is having a problem with our visuals and/or pixmap formats or whether Qt or KDE has some problem that causes alpha channel rendering with our visuals and/or pixmap formats to not work. I'll try to build Cygwin/XFree86 with RENDER but without LAYER and RANDR to see if that still fixes the problem. Harold From romulusnr@yahoo.com Fri Jun 14 02:00:00 2002 From: romulusnr@yahoo.com (Romulus) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 02:00:00 -0000 Subject: Arrow key bindings and numlock Message-ID: <20020613170725.46640.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Not entirely sure if this is a Cyg-XF86 concern, or an fvwm2-cyg concern, but the research I've done so far points to problems with XF86 and NumLock. Under XF86, I've noticed that fvwm2 doesn't correctly receive Ctl-Arrow keys (such as Ctl-Left) if NumLock is on. For example I have defined config lines like: Key Up A C Scroll 0 -100 and so forth. With NumLock on, X apps seem to recieve corrupted escape strings, because I'll see ABCD's appear in an active xterm when I try to do this. I found out that turning NumLock off made those bindings work. Shift bindings seem to work OK. I've seen problems in apps with meta (alt) bindings which is probably related to the same thing. I've seen lots of comments about at least two XF86 bugs that breaks key bindings when numlock is on. I like numlock. Is there a happy medium? TIA, Kdt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From exodus@psyon.org Fri Jun 14 06:07:00 2002 From: exodus@psyon.org (Psyon) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin References: <20020613033112.63074.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D08F206.2030208@psyon.org> I have GTK+ and GNOME compiled inside CYGWIN. I used the directions on the page linked from the main Cygwin page. It seems to run ok for me, but I dont play with a lot of stuff on it though. I know some other people said it wasnt stable enough to be a package though. Sylvain Petreolle wrote: >Hi there, > >looking on cygwin.com/packages >show there isn't a package for gtk. > >1/ does it compile for now ? >2/ if ok, why haven't we a package for that ? I looked >on cygwin & cygwin-xfree archives and didn't find a >thread on it. > >___________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! >Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > > > > From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 14 06:10:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:10:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <20020613033112.63074.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020613195514.18649.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I believe Harold is working on the native cygwin version of this. Cheers, Nicholas --- Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > Hi there, > > looking on cygwin.com/packages > show there isn't a package for gtk. > > 1/ does it compile for now ? > 2/ if ok, why haven't we a package for that ? I looked > on cygwin & cygwin-xfree archives and didn't find a > thread on it. > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Fri Jun 14 06:11:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:11:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] RE: Ghost cursors (was: RE: alt-tab: client window re ceives tab / pressing both...) Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F9A9CFC7@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > My solution for the time is > pragmatic, but > I'd like to get to the bottom of this eventually. For now I > just reopen the > log file handle in OsVendorInit if it was opened in > ddxProcessArgument: Okay - a few ErrorF()'s, bit of stracing and recompiles later ... What kills the file handle is fclose(stdio) in os/osinit.c. Why? Well, X, like many programs, makes assumptions about stdio, stdout and stderr (it assumes that they are on fd's 0, 1 and 2). This is bad. Now, what must have happened is that when XWin.exe is started without the /B flag the file descriptor we get when we open our log file is 0 (namely stdin). Why would we get this? Well, why not? XWin doesn't have a console when it starts (is used to according to Harold so this is most likely when it last worked!) so we just get the first FD. Why we don't get this FD when we start XWin.exe with /B is another matter (erm - windows experts out there ... maybe windows does something special with them) The real fix? Well - the bug is in core X and not the cygwin port. Attached is a patch which stops OsInit() from closing stdin and stdout if compiling for cygwin. I still contend that those closes shouldn't be there at all - but that's for an XFree86 developer to decide as it will effect all platforms. This patch just fixes it for cygwin. Stuart -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: log.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 302 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ecognito1@earthcorp.com Fri Jun 14 06:14:00 2002 From: ecognito1@earthcorp.com (E) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:14:00 -0000 Subject: Status of multi-windowed server Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020614112025.00a1b620@192.168.1.1> At 04:01 AM 13/06/02 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00086.html Thanks for that. I take it from the posting and follow-up threads that it certainly isn't working out-of-the-box for what you download using setup.exe. Do you know where it is priorities on the TODO list for the project? E. P.S. Apologies to Harold for initially replying directly to him instead of the list as seems to be proper etiquette in cygwin land. I hadn't realised he had posted his response to the list as well as directly to myself. From strube@physik3.gwdg.de Fri Jun 14 06:18:00 2002 From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:18:00 -0000 Subject: Question about running interactive program in xterm session Message-ID: <200206140900.LAA13523@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de> > From: Milind Potdar > If I open xterm session & try to run isql, all the prompts from isql "do not" > come to screen. But otherwise it behaves perfectly ok. ie you input sql commands > & get back results. > > It is as if there is some special buffer which stores whatever isql is prompting > but it is not getting flushed. At the same time sql command results come back & > are visible. > > >From normal cygwin command shell, there is no problem with isql execution. > > Has anyone experienced similar problem ? Yes, I found something similar with the Windows version of ssh2 from SSHWinClient-3.1.0-build235 from SSH.COM; see my posting http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-03/msg00127.html . > Is there any xterm property which needs to be set to make this work ? I would like to know this, too. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 06:25:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:25:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 59 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 59 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 59 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'test' package: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test59.exe.bz2 (1051 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020614-0826.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) (next link is multiple lines, concatenate them manually) http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ xc-programs-Xserver-os-osinit-20020614-0826.c.diff (1 KiB) (next link is multiple lines, concatenate them manually) http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/ xc-config-cf-cygwin-20020614-0826.cf.diff (1 KiB) Changes: 1) win.h, xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf - Stop building RANDR and disable Cygwin/XFree86's LAYER support. These two extensions were causing KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to not display. RENDER is still enabled. (Harold Hunt) 2) xc/programs/Xserver/os/osinit.c - Don't close the stdin, stdout, stderr file handles on Cygwin. We are no longer a command-line application so stdin, stdout, and stderr point to our first three file handles, rather than to their usual locations. This keeps the log file from being closed when you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin.exe'. (Stuart Adamson) 3) winwndproc.c - Call TrackMouseEvent to setup tracking for the WM_MOUSELEAVE message. When we see a WM_MOUSELEAVE message we show the cursor if we are hiding it. This will prevent cursors from disappearing when using the -lesspointer parameter. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 06:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:32:00 -0000 Subject: Workaround, for now Message-ID: I've found a workaround, for now. It turns out that the RENDER extension is working find on Cygwin/XFree86, but the LAYER and/or RANDR extensions are causing problems when displaying icons with alpha channels. For now the solution is to just disable LAYER and RANDR, since we don't even know what they do (lack of documentation from the creator). I may look into the particular problem with LAYER and/or RANDR later, but for now consider this BUG CLOSED. Thanks for your help, especially Waldo, who pointed me to the alpha channel. Harold Hunt From Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com Fri Jun 14 07:57:00 2002 From: Vincent.Virgilio@itt.com (Virgilio, Vincent) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:57:00 -0000 Subject: Arrow key bindings and numlock Message-ID: <7BB975A4BB6DD2119EE400A0C9D61A59059D3B0A@acdfwx2.acdin.de.ittind.com> In a previous post I mentioned that TWM was not recognizing meta (and other state-shifting keys). Romulus' post solved that. Once I turned NumLock off, the standard key bindings started working. 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Keep feeding me patches as you create them (at least so I can look at them as they come in), but don't expect a reply until late Sunday or Monday at the earliest. Happy coding, Harold From owner@bugs.kde.org Fri Jun 14 08:43:00 2002 From: owner@bugs.kde.org (Stephan Kulow) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:43:00 -0000 Subject: Bug#40875: Info received (was Workaround, for now) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers' mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): KDE Developers If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 40875@bugs.kde.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Stephan Kulow (administrator, KDE bugs database) From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 10:30:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:30:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: For anyone looking for something to do: Take a look at how we are messing up the handling of NumLock. For a simple test case, install the lesstif package via Cygwin's setup.exe, run mwm.exe as your window manager, make sure NumLock is on, then try to move a MWM managed window. The window won't budge. Turn NumLock off and the window can move freely. It may be incorrect to treat NumLock as a 'modifier key', see xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c/winGetKeyMappings (), but not treating NumLock as a modifier key causes the NumLock key to have no effect on whether the numerical keypad gives you numbers (NumLock on behavior) or arrows (NumLock off behavior). I think that both states of NumLock give you arrows in that case. For clues you can take a look at other servers, such as XDarwin over in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/darwinKeyboard.c. Notice that they use modifier masks LockMask (CapsLock), ShiftMask, ControlMask, AltMask, MetaMask and FunctionMask. But they don't use NumLockMask. What gives? Is NumLock a modifier key or not? If not, why doesn't it do anything in Cygwin/XFree86 when we don't treat it as a modifier? Hopefully that provides enough food for thought. Good luck, Harold From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 14 10:37:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:37:00 -0000 Subject: Workaround, for now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020614133224.GF1117@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:10:30 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > I've found a workaround, for now. > > It turns out that the RENDER extension is working find on Cygwin/XFree86, > but the LAYER and/or RANDR extensions are causing problems when displaying > icons with alpha channels. For now the solution is to just disable LAYER > and RANDR, since we don't even know what they do (lack of documentation from > the creator). LAYER and RANDR are not complete. They both form the basis for Rotate and Resizing. This will allow colour depth switching and rotating of the display. So don't worry about them. Alan. From n.escuder@alineanet.com Fri Jun 14 10:38:00 2002 From: n.escuder@alineanet.com (Escuder Nicolas) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:38:00 -0000 Subject: Lastest Wine CVS and IE6 References: <20020614111300.15232.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003801c213b2$076744f0$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR> It's not from comctl32 :o) [AppDefaults\\iexplore.exe\\DllOverrides] "shlwapi" = "native" "rpcrt4" = "native" "ole32" = "native" "shdocvw" = "native" "wininet" = "native" "shfolder" = "native" "shell32" = "native" "shell" = "native" "comctl32" = "native" And it don't crash all the time just at the page : http://start.fr.msn.com I give you the last log :o) fixme:win:GetProcessWindowStation (void): stub fixme:win:GetProcessWindowStation (void): stub mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding err:wave:ARTS_WaveInit arts_init() failed (-1) err:win32:PE_fixup_imports No implementation for DDRAW.dll.20(ReleaseDDThreadLock) imported from C:\windows\system\ddrawex.dll, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:win32:PE_fixup_imports No implementation for DDRAW.dll.0(AcquireDDThreadLock) imported from C:\windows\system\ddrawex.dll, setting to 0xdeadbeef Could not stat /mnt/floppy (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A: Could not stat /mnt/cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D: err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/desktop.ini" err = 55 err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/modern.fon" err = 2 err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/desktop.ini" err = 55 err:font:AddFontFileToList Unable to load font file "/home/win4lin/win/windows/fonts/modern.fon" err = 2 fixme:reg:RegNotifyChangeKeyValue (48,1,5,4c,1): stub fixme:string:GetStringTypeW CT_CTYPE3 not supported. fixme:string:GetStringTypeW CT_CTYPE3 not supported. fixme:string:GetStringTypeW CT_CTYPE3 not supported. This is the last message before i see Internet Explorer give a fault :o) see you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Escuder Nicolas" ; Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Lastest Wine CVS and IE6 > it crashes -> what is is the error message ? > > > If anyone known how can i have no black icon but > > icon with color please say > > to me ;o) > comes from comctl32.dll... > the problem solved in previous version by using > builtin one, but using it with IE6 makes it not > start...he shows a dialog saying IE6 must close and exits...*sigh* > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.com > http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jun 14 11:50:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Harold Hunt wrote: > Is NumLock a modifier key or not? It Is. I know the Problem from Sun Solaris. If NumLock is on, the twm buttons will not react on button presses :( bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From n.escuder@alineanet.com Fri Jun 14 18:11:00 2002 From: n.escuder@alineanet.com (Escuder Nicolas) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:11:00 -0000 Subject: Sorry error not the good list :( Message-ID: <008001c213b8$834802c0$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR> Sorry form my message before ... From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 18:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:14:00 -0000 Subject: Workaround, for now Message-ID: <200206141730.g5EHUqU28592@pilot14.cl.msu.edu> Alan, > LAYER and RANDR are not complete. They both form the basis for Rotate > and Resizing. This will allow colour depth switching and rotating of > the display. So don't worry about them. Ah ha. I knew what RANDR was supposed to do, but I was missing that vital status information that they are not complete. Had I known that I wouldn't have enabled them yet. I remember now why I did enable them: Keith made a change to SHADOW to accomadate LAYER, but he didn't anticipate someone using SHADOW like we do, so SHADOW started crashing on startup. I saw his change and thought that SHADOW now depended upon LAYER, so I spent a week or two enabling LAYER support. After I had that working I realized that my crashing bug was still there and that it really had to do with that change to SHADOW. I submitted a fix for SHADOW and suddenly everything was fine again. I never bothered to turn LAYER and RANDR back off after that because they didn't seem to have any negative effects. Now they do :) Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 20:15:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 20:15:00 -0000 Subject: Cofiguration Q's Message-ID: <200206141737.g5EHbFo130722@pilot07.cl.msu.edu> Elena, First things first: be sure to reply *only* to the cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com mailing list. I don't need to be cc'd (everyone knows I am subscribed to the list) and please don't send messages only to me (always send them to the list). I do, however, often cc people that are asking their first question because I don't know for a fact that they are subscribed to the mailing list and I want to make sure that they get my reply. That being said... > Thanks for the help! > Now our Cygwin on PC is working. We started it via > startwin.bat and then used Telnet and SSH for remote > connection. > In both cases we were able only get local display from > commands, not a locak desktop of remote Linux > computer. Read the manual: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html > Could you please suggest where to look for the proper > cosettings for the remote machine? If you can't get your remote machine to accept a connection, read the FAQ entry about why some distros won't accept connections by default: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-mandrake-8.1-xdmcp That should cover it. There are links to further information about XDMCP in the User's Guide entry in case you have more questions. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 14 21:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 21:44:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: <200206141738.g5EHcXi21782@pilot22.cl.msu.edu> Alexander, > > Is NumLock a modifier key or not? > > It Is. I know the Problem from Sun Solaris. If NumLock is on, the twm > buttons will not react on button presses :( Then why doesn't XDarwin set NumLock as a modifier key? Harold From lains@caramail.com Fri Jun 14 22:23:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:23:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 doesn't start Message-ID: <1024080603015275@caramail.com> I'm getting difficulties to start an X server on CygWin under WinNT. I've installed XFree86 using the standard setup.exe installer. Here is what I'm getting when I launch startxwin.sh ~$ startxwin.sh + export DISPLAY=LAINS-1:0.0 + PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Com mon Files/Clarify/bin:/cygdrive/c/orant/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive /c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WBEM:/cygdrive/e/orant/bin:/cygdrive/c:/cygd rive/c/windows:/cygdrive/c/command:/cygdrive/c/Borland/Bde :/usr/X11R6/bin:/home /administrator/scripts:. + rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix + XWin + twm + xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 The process XWin seems to hang and, of course, when I kill it, startx returns. + xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash + exit XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "LAINS-1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "LAINS-1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Is there anything wrong with my config? Any log file I should check? After several failures, I could manage to start XWin only once (running XWin.exe directly also), but I can't get it to work again, now that I have rebooted Windows. Here is the version of the X11 packages I installed: XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-5 Thanks, Lionel _________________________________________________________ Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ From jatkins@dsdk12.net Sat Jun 15 01:17:00 2002 From: jatkins@dsdk12.net (Joe Atkins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 01:17:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker Message-ID: <3D0A93F1.6090900@dsdk12.net> I was looking through the documentation provided and on the website and I fail to find information on how to get WindowMaker installed properly through Cygwin. Aftter installing and attempting a first load of WM, WM fails and quits on fatal errors because it tries to use the // to set up certain directories and cannot due so due to the removeal of such support. Could you please inform me on what the work around to get WM to set up those neccisary directories and files is or where I can find the specified information at on the Internet? Thank You For Your Assistance, Joe Atkins From jatkins@dsdk12.net Sat Jun 15 02:14:00 2002 From: jatkins@dsdk12.net (Joe Atkins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 02:14:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker Message-ID: <3D0A94B0.9020502@dsdk12.net> I was looking through the documentation provided and on the website and I fail to find information on how to get WindowMaker installed properly through Cygwin. Aftter installing and attempting a first load of WM, WM fails and quits on fatal errors because it tries to use the // to set up certain directories and cannot due so due to the removeal of such support. Could you please inform me on what the work around to get WM to set up those neccisary directories and files is or where I can find the specified information at on the Internet? Thank You For Your Assistance, Joe Atkins From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Sat Jun 15 02:26:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 02:26:00 -0000 Subject: wxWindows Message-ID: Hi, Has anyone here been able to compile wxWindows on Cygwin? Specifically, producing a build of wxWindows that runs under Cygwin's XFree environment? I'd like to share notes on it if you have. Thanks. From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Jun 15 03:12:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:12:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only Message-ID: <1024116255.1315.81.camel@tuxedo> Hi there, My flatmate and I have been playing with creating a minimal install of cygwin-xfree. We culled files until we ended up with XWin.exe, a bunch of libraries, and a few fonts. We included also ttmkfdir.exe and mkfontdir.exe, so we can add more fonts later, and use the windows fonts. My flatmate has also written a delphi app, which runs the XWin binary with some options you can set on a preferences screen. It needs a little more work, but is quite useable. It is currently built around our set-up, so will need to be modified to support a normal cygwin-xfree install. We have packaged the above using a setup program called Inno Setup, available at: http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php Currently the archive including installer and launcher program come to just under 2.5Mb, and installs to about 5.5Mb. There is much work I need to do on this, but I have exams for the next week so won't get much of a chance. One of my main concerns is that our current install modifies the registry keys used by cygwin, so installing it will break an existing setup (although is quite easy to fix, it is messy). If you do want to look at what we have so far, you can grab http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bennolan/setup.exe and have a play. Note it is messy, as it will change cygwin's registry keys. TODO: Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry location, so we don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. Win95 support. Not sure why it isn't going yet. Need to investigate more. Fonts included. To reduce size, we have the bare minimum fonts included, but it can use fonts from within windows. Fix the launcher program. Currently doesn't save and restore settings correctly from registry, doesn't let the user specify a font server, and has odd defaults for the XDMCP server to connect to :) Make sure uninstall removes /tmp/* and other files created. Include esd.exe from http://www.kiss.taihaku.sendai.jp/~fuji/product/20001127/ , so we can use sound. Perhaps recompile to use cygwin dlls rather than mingw32, and see if there is a later version somewhere than this :) It's a little noisy too, and buffered. Need to work out if there are any configuration parameters we can play with. Add license file to launcher program to say that it is GPL. What are the .a files? Are they linked from the .dlls? Are they used by XWin.exe, or is it just the .dlls? I created a sourceforge project yesterday for this to make it accessible, but uploaded anything to it yet. That will be a job for the week after next. Questions, comments, advice, etc? Cheers, Tim. From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Sat Jun 15 03:27:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:27:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <1024116255.1315.81.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <3D0ACF3F.3010704@stanfordalumni.org> Tim Thomson wrote: > > Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry location, so we > don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies > the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. > Why don't you just make a cygwin package for the stripped down xfree? Most people are going to want some of the cygwin packages. You can make a custom setup.ini that just installs the cygwin dll and stripped xfree. At least don't modify any existing cygwin registry keys. Using the same keys would work as long as it cooperates with an existing or later cygwin install. > > Fonts included. To reduce size, we have the bare minimum fonts > included, but it can use fonts from within windows. > One option is using XDMCP is set a font server on the remote machine and use the remote fonts. > > What are the .a files? Are they linked from the .dlls? Are they used by > XWin.exe, or is it just the .dlls? > They are used to link programs with the X libraries. They aren't required to run the programs. They really shouldn't be in the XFree86-bin package and belong in the XFree86-devel package. But they are small so it doesn't make much difference. - Ian -- Ian Burrell iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 03:54:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:54:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <1024116255.1315.81.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 2:44 PM > There is much work I need to do on this, but I have exams for the next > week so won't get much of a chance. One of my main concerns > is that our > current install modifies the registry keys used by cygwin, so > installing > it will break an existing setup (although is quite easy to fix, it is > messy). Yes, this is bad. > TODO: > Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry > location, so we > don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies > the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. You will also need to: * Change the shared segment name, or you will break existing installs at runtime. * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not compatible with the cygwin net distribution. * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. OR Just leverage the cygwin setup program, and let all the pain go away. Rob From ben@ripcord.co.nz Sat Jun 15 04:12:00 2002 From: ben@ripcord.co.nz (Ben Nolan) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <007601c2144c$6b55f2a0$360a0a0a@proton> Or. Use the current name with the knowledge that the people we are targeting at aren't going to want to use a 3rd party launcher app at the same time as their cygwin distro. Honestly, We aren't targetting at developers. We are targetting at schools / govt offices who need access to x-based apps as a intermediate step to linux desktops. And although I appreciate your comments, the out and out criticism really isn't that helpful. Do you expect every administrator that wants to install cygwin on umpteen boxes to set up a custom cygwin install script and site-specific batch files to use the cygwin X server? That's elitist. Regards, Ben Nolan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Collins" To: "'Tim Thomson'" ; "'cygwin-xfree Mailing List'" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:17 PM Subject: RE: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 2:44 PM > > > There is much work I need to do on this, but I have exams for the next > > week so won't get much of a chance. One of my main concerns > > is that our > > current install modifies the registry keys used by cygwin, so > > installing > > it will break an existing setup (although is quite easy to fix, it is > > messy). > > Yes, this is bad. > > > TODO: > > Recompile cygwin1.dll to look in a different registry > > location, so we > > don't use the same location as cygwin. Currently our install modifies > > the cygwin registry keys, so will break an existing install. > > You will also need to: > * Change the shared segment name, or you will break existing installs at > runtime. > * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not > compatible with the cygwin net distribution. > * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. > > OR > > Just leverage the cygwin setup program, and let all the pain go away. > > Rob > > From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 07:27:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:27:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <007601c2144c$6b55f2a0$360a0a0a@proton> Message-ID: <001001c2144e$b9cefd30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Nolan [mailto:ben@ripcord.co.nz] > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 7:09 PM > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only > > > Or. > > Use the current name with the knowledge that the people we > are targeting at > aren't going to want to use a 3rd party launcher app at the > same time as > their cygwin distro. That's up to you. As long as that are clear that the two won't play nicely together, then it's completely your choice. I do know that any support requests on such installs will create confusion all around, which is unfortunate. But again, you choice. > Honestly, > > We aren't targetting at developers. We are targetting at > schools / govt > offices who need access to x-based apps as a intermediate > step to linux > desktops. And although I appreciate your comments, the out > and out criticism > really isn't that helpful. It wasn't meant as criticism. It was a) An agreement that what you have identified as problematic is indeed problematic. b) A checklist of things to do when forking a cygwin install, as it's been covered in depth and you may not have known the details. c) A slightly sarcastic/humorous suggestion about an alternate approach that I believe is more effective, useful and manageable. But hey, call it criticism. > Do you expect every administrator that wants to install > cygwin on umpteen > boxes to set up a custom cygwin install script and > site-specific batch files > to use the cygwin X server? That's elitist. Elitist? As in rule by the elite? Well, no that's hardly appropriate, if only because no one is trying to rule you. As in snobbery? Again, I don't think so. I'm not discounting your opinions, or efforts. As in being concious of belonging to an elite? Nope. Seriously, setting aside the question of whether elitism is bad in a meritocracy - which open source projects claim to be. And also setting aside whether such an expectation *is* elitist... I do not expect every administrator to do what you list above. I think that you should do that - that is part of the value of your current all-in-one download. There is no reason that that cannot be done via cygwin's setup.exe, thus incorporating all the net resources, updates, and gaining immediate co-existence with existing installs, removing the issue of dll names/paths/shared memory areas. I am at a complete loss to understand how you went from my suggestion to thinking I had such an expectation. Ah well, Rob From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Jun 15 07:31:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:31:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <000d01c21445$1ca3a1e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <1024135939.785.19.camel@tuxedo> Thanks for the replies. The idea is to end up with an X server that is small and easy to use. I'd like to use the existing cygwin setup.exe, as it is very nice, but I don't want to end up with a full cygwin setup. Basically I'm after something like X-Win32, MI/x, or WinaXe, but based on cygwin-xfree, so is free and works well. If you want to use XDMCP to connect to a unix server only, you don't need a full cygwin install. On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 20:17, Robert Collins wrote: > You will also need to: > * Change the shared segment name, or you will break existing installs at > runtime. > * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not > compatible with the cygwin net distribution. > * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. "Everything" would involve the cygwin dll, the couple of libraries used and the XFree server binary correct? People already running cygwin won't need this distribution. I will modify our launcher program soon so it will launch X on an already existing cygwin setup. (What this launcher program does is give a dialog box to let the user select various settings for the XWin binary, then creates a .bat file which launches it). The distribution I am proposing would only be for use for people who didn't want a full cygwin-xfree setup. Cheers, Tim. From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 07:44:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:44:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <1024135939.785.19.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <001601c21457$3f222db0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 8:12 PM > To: cygwin-xfree Mailing List > Subject: RE: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only > > > Thanks for the replies. > > The idea is to end up with an X server that is small and easy to use. > I'd like to use the existing cygwin setup.exe, as it is very > nice, but I > don't want to end up with a full cygwin setup. > Basically I'm after something like X-Win32, MI/x, or WinaXe, but based > on cygwin-xfree, so is free and works well. If you want to > use XDMCP to > connect to a unix server only, you don't need a full cygwin install. Sure. And a minimum cygwin install is all you'd get. Setup only installs the bare minimum - the 'base' category by default. No compilers, no 'optional' components at all. And even they can be deselected (but not be default). > On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 20:17, Robert Collins wrote: > > > You will also need to: > > * Change the shared segment name, or you will break > existing installs at > > runtime. > > * Change the dll name, as the install you are proposing is not > > compatible with the cygwin net distribution. > > * Recompile *everything* to use the new .dll name. > > "Everything" would involve the cygwin dll, the couple of > libraries used > and the XFree server binary correct? Yah. It's not an easy task unfortunately. Anyway, I think this is a good project, it's something that is potentially very useful. Rob From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sat Jun 15 08:02:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:02:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <001601c21457$3f222db0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <001601c21457$3f222db0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <1024138460.784.41.camel@tuxedo> On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 22:27, Robert Collins wrote: > Sure. And a minimum cygwin install is all you'd get. Setup only installs > the bare minimum - the 'base' category by default. No compilers, no > 'optional' components at all. And even they can be deselected (but not > be default). Hmmm, I first installed cygwin-xfree before it was incorporated into the setup.exe system, but have now used the setup.exe to install on another system as well. I found that it was very hard to reduce the size of the install, as many things depend on many others. I was hoping I wouldn't need to recompile everything for every new version, as downloading sources, then getting everything to go for each new update would be a lot harder than finding recent versions of cygwin1.dll and XWin.exe, adding them to the distribution and providing a new "version" of the download. Perhaps we could check if cygwin is already installed, and refuse to install if it is. We could also have warnings saying not to install both at the same time. This would mean we could use the standard binary and libraries, just repackaged. I wonder which would prove to be the biggest hassle. It may prove more productive to recompile everything, if only to separate the two, so people wouldn't get confused. Thanks for your input, Tim. From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sat Jun 15 08:32:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:32:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <1024138460.784.41.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Tim Thomson > Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2002 8:54 PM > Hmmm, I first installed cygwin-xfree before it was > incorporated into the > setup.exe system, but have now used the setup.exe to install > on another > system as well. I found that it was very hard to reduce the > size of the > install, as many things depend on many others. Yes. The X install is relatively heavy. I was thinking that you can do the following: Setup your own setup.ini. In that include a package (say XFree86-XDMCP-minimal) for your cut-down X install, minus all the cygwin infrastructure. DON'T include anything with a name the same as cygwin's setup.ini. Include dependency listings that your package has on cygwin packages - should any exist (i.e. various font packages may be useful). Anything that your can't separate out usefully enough, include the content in your package' tarball, OR ask Harold if he is able to split the package out a little. Then tell your users to run setup.exe, add your mirror site to the mirrors list, and to select an official cygwin mirror as well. That should be much smaller, and > Perhaps we could check if cygwin is already installed, and refuse to > install if it is. We could also have warnings saying not to > install both > at the same time. This would mean we could use the standard binary and > libraries, just repackaged. That would help. I suspect you'll still get folk installing cygwin on top, but at least a one-way check helps a lot. Cheers, Rob From randy@psg.com Sat Jun 15 08:52:00 2002 From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:52:00 -0000 Subject: mailing list archive Message-ID: been through the faq and docs. but before i ask already answered questions, is there a searchable mailing list archive somewhere? randy From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Jun 15 14:33:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 14:33:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> I'd thought I mention that this has been done before, by both myself and Matthew Donald. Both done in the time before the option to install X via setup.exe. My versions are available at http://www.webone.com.au/~rasjidw/WinXTerm-0.32.zip http://www.webone.com.au/~rasjidw/WinXTerm-0.4-Test53.zip with the original website for the project at http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/. Both of my versions are *very* outdated now, as I had put the project on hold until such time as X was installable via setup.exe. I had essentially decided to take Robert's approach, but have had no time over the last few months now the setup.exe option is available. The main reason I decided to go with the setup.exe option is due to the 'you can't have two versions of cygwin.dll running at the same time' problem. And in fact you can use setup.exe and still only have a 5-6 MB download (assuming you don't install fonts etc and don't actually want anything more than X and bash to work or be available). Doland's project is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/winfree86/, as was also delphi based. I don't think he has done anything on it since January, although I have not had any recent contact with him. Strangely enough, I was planning to start work on project again this month, and perhaps even this weekend, with my first step being to do the script to configure XDMCP access on a 'standard' linux distribution. My planned second step was to then create a 'wizard' that would only download the components you need (much less than even a base level cygwin install) and then use setup.exe to install them. Unfortunately I don't know C or C++, and so was planning to do the install wizard in either python and wxWindows or Java and Swing. If someone want to do a 'native' windows version, that would be fine by me. I'd be more than happy just to play bug-tester etc. Once I got this far, I was going to talk to Robert about possible ways to enable 'non-cygwin packaged' programs to talk to and utilise setup.exe. I have noticed that a number of open source Linux/Unix programs have their windows version using the cygwin dll, but don't use setup.exe. It only takes two of these programs to be using sufficiently different versions of the cygwin dll for things to start breaking. This worries me quite a bit, as what will happen is that people will simply say 'Oh damn, this open source product is buggy. I'll go back to using closed source software, it works better.' For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). Because of the above, I think it is important to have a XDMCP only version of Cgywin-XFree86 that does sit within the setup.exe framework. If no-one else does this version, then I will, but I can't guarantee exactly when. If someone else is going to do it anyway, then I wont, as I have plenty of other things I can be doing. ;-) Anyway, enough of my ravings for the evening. It is late and I should be asleep. Cheers, Rasjid. From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sat Jun 15 17:28:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:28:00 -0000 Subject: mailing list archive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020615144401.51517.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> --- Randy Bush a ??crit??: > been through the faq and docs. but before i ask > already answered > questions, is there a searchable mailing list > archive somewhere? > > randy > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From rasjidw@openminddev.net Sat Jun 15 18:46:00 2002 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:46:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <200206160101.25136.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:30 am, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows > port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are > using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in > the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also > uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). > Actually, I just checked a bit more carefully. They host the source for cygwin 1.3.9, but it looks to me like the actual dll they use is B19 (or at least, it is named cygwinb19.dll - perhaps they have a more recent one and just name it that for compatibility??). Someone please tell me I'm wrong, but won't this potentially cause serious problems if someone is running mysql (assuming it really is using B19) and also tries to run an up-to-date cygwin install? Rasjid. From gp@familiehaase.de Sun Jun 16 05:55:00 2002 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 05:55:00 -0000 Subject: Webmin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <186597286142.20020615173109@familiehaase.de> Hallo Splatter, Am Montag, 10. Juni 2002 um 21:57 schriebst du: > Greetings all! > Is webmin supported under cygwin? > Regards & TIA, > -Splat Not that I'm aware of. But since Perl and X are available it is worth trying to build it. Please report back if you have problems building Webmin. Gerrit -- "All faults& bugs are mine - Robert" from squid/acinclude.m4, Sun Apr 21 05:21:21 2002 From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 10:07:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <3D08F206.2030208@psyon.org> Message-ID: <20020615155220.35405.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Does someone know if http link is availble to download GTK ? I'm behind a proxy and don't have access to ftp port. Thanks for any answer. --- Psyon a ??crit??: > I have GTK+ and GNOME compiled inside CYGWIN. I > used the directions on > the page linked from the main Cygwin page. It seems > to run ok for me, > but I dont play with a lot of stuff on it though. I > know some other > people said it wasnt stable enough to be a package > though. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From iburrell@znark.com Sun Jun 16 12:28:00 2002 From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:28:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <3D0BB28C.7030203@znark.com> Robert Collins wrote: > > Yes. The X install is relatively heavy. I was thinking that you can do > the following: > Setup your own setup.ini. In that include a package (say > XFree86-XDMCP-minimal) for your cut-down X install, minus all the cygwin > infrastructure. DON'T include anything with a name the same as cygwin's > setup.ini. > Include dependency listings that your package has on cygwin packages - > should any exist (i.e. various font packages may be useful). Anything > that your can't separate out usefully enough, include the content in > your package' tarball, OR ask Harold if he is able to split the package > out a little. > I'm sure some people with a cygwin install would be interested in a cut-down XFree86 install with only XDMCP support. > Then tell your users to run setup.exe, add your mirror site to the > mirrors list, and to select an official cygwin mirror as well. > That should be much smaller, and > If they really want a small custom install, couldn't they create a custom setup.ini with only the cygwin packages they want. Put that on a web site to be used instead of a cygwin mirror. BTW, is there any way to automate setup.exe so that users don't have to answer all the questions? setup.exe is great for flexibity with different options for getting and selecting packages. For a school install, the location and packages can be fixed in advanced and the questions reduced to the minimum. - Ian -- Ian Burrell iburrell@znark.com http://www.znark.com/ From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Sun Jun 16 12:55:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:55:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <1024187301.797.53.camel@tuxedo> On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 02:30, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > The main reason I decided to > go with the setup.exe option is due to the 'you can't have two versions of > cygwin.dll running at the same time' problem. And in fact you can use > setup.exe and still only have a 5-6 MB download (assuming you don't install > fonts etc and don't actually want anything more than X and bash to work or be > available). I had a play at doing this. Installing just the cygwin, zlib, update-info-dir, and Xfree86-xserv packages brought the total size on disk to just over 7Mb. The base cygwin package still has a lot of files unneeded here, all we really want is cygwin1.dll. All we need in the zlib package is cygz.dll, but there are a bunch of help files, .a files, etc as well. After culling the unneeded files, I got the total down to 3.7Mb. On top of this we need to add a couple of fonts, and a few configuration files, and any X libraries we wanted. > Strangely enough, I was planning to start work on project again this month, > and perhaps even this weekend, with my first step being to do the script to > configure XDMCP access on a 'standard' linux distribution. Hehe, finding a "standard" linux distrib could be fun :) Do you mean a script to enable an xdm type server for accepting remote connections? This would be a great idea! Kind of tricky though, with xdm, kdm, and gdm all doing this, but using different locations, and ach distribution probably puts the config files in different locations as well :) I was looking at working on enabling esd sound for a user logging in remotely. > My planned second > step was to then create a 'wizard' that would only download the components > you need (much less than even a base level cygwin install) and then use > setup.exe to install them. Unfortunately I don't know C or C++, and so was > planning to do the install wizard in either python and wxWindows or Java and > Swing. If someone want to do a 'native' windows version, that would be fine > by me. I'd be more than happy just to play bug-tester etc. This would be nice, as a 'wizard' type install is what I'm wanting. It doesn't help much in terms of size though, as there would be a lot of redundant files still installed (for this application). > Once I got this far, I was going to talk to Robert about possible ways to > enable 'non-cygwin packaged' programs to talk to and utilise setup.exe. I > have noticed that a number of open source Linux/Unix programs have their > windows version using the cygwin dll, but don't use setup.exe. It only takes > two of these programs to be using sufficiently different versions of the > cygwin dll for things to start breaking. This worries me quite a bit, as This is a good idea. I was trying to work out a way of using the /usr/local directories. If the initial install program couldn't find an existing cygwin install, then it could use it's own version of the cygwin libs. If it did find one, perhaps it could install everything into the /usr/local directories? Or perhaps put itself in the standard X locations, then create a package .lst file, etc. Is this enough though? If it had done an install without cygwin, and then someone had installed cygwin later, then the X launcher program could modify the path our XWin binary got, so that it would use the new cygwin install. There would be some issues here, maybe it would be better to give a warning that cygwin had been installed, and that our package needed to be reinstalled? Ideally I want to have it so that it inter-operates nicely with a cygwin install, but can also install and function without cygwin, so there are just the minimum required files needed, to reduce the overall size. > Because of the above, I think it is important to have a XDMCP only version of > Cgywin-XFree86 that does sit within the setup.exe framework. If no-one else I agree. I don't know if mine will do this entirely, as I would like to offer a cut down cygwin as well as cut down xfree. Perhaps I could release both, I will have to see how I go for time. I should get around to packaging the launcher program for setup.exe. It is a GPL delphi app, there is no problem doing this? I would install it to /usr/X11R6/bin ? Can I get setup.exe to create an icon on the desktop or in the start menu? I won't get a chance to do much this week, I have exams until Saturday, so will be rather busy :) Cheers, Tim. From lhall@rfk.com Sun Jun 16 13:37:00 2002 From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 13:37:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <200206160101.25136.rasjidw@openminddev.net> References: <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020615213447.06023548@pop.ma.ultranet.com> At 11:01 AM 6/15/2002, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:30 am, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >> For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows >> port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are >> using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in >> the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also >> uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). >> > >Actually, I just checked a bit more carefully. They host the source for >cygwin 1.3.9, but it looks to me like the actual dll they use is B19 (or at >least, it is named cygwinb19.dll - perhaps they have a more recent one and >just name it that for compatibility??). It's possible. cygwin1.dll is binary compatible with B19 so they might just slip in a more current Cygwin DLL by renaming cygwin1.dll to cygwinb19.dll. This avoids a recompile and uses the new DLL. There are other ways around this (like editing the binary and replacing all occurrences of "cygwinb19.dll" with "cygwin1.dll " - spacing is important!) But a simple recompile and relink is the best course of action. With B19 so far in the past, it makes no sense to force these contortions/problems on users, assuming they are still using the B19 DLL in name at least. You'd do well to ask them about this. >Someone please tell me I'm wrong, but won't this potentially cause serious >problems if someone is running mysql (assuming it really is using B19) and >also tries to run an up-to-date cygwin install? You're not wrong. Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Sun Jun 16 13:50:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 13:50:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020615213447.06023548@pop.ma.ultranet.com> Message-ID: I'm trying to run gdbx, and I need cygwinb19.dll to do it. Where can I find that file? I've tried renaming to cygwin1.dll to cygwinb19.dll, but when gdbx starts, the CPU goes to 100% load and gdbx never appears, so that doesn't work. TIA From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 14:45:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 14:45:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A416@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <20020616170659.36653.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Where did you find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk ? I downloaded every XFree86 package and there is no file provided. --- Stuart Adamson a ??crit??: > You want to run xmodmap. In my startxwin.bat I do > > start /B XWin -loads of options here > start /B xmodmap.exe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk > start /B icewm.exe > > Type "man xmodmap" for more details. > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be > [mailto:jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be] > > Sent: 13 June 2002 13:36 > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is > working > > perfectly well except > > the fact that I can not change the keyboard from > Qwerty to > > Azerty. I have not > > found any explanations in the documentation. > > > > Any help? > > > > Thanks, > > > > J??r??me Stefanini > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 15:00:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020616192822.51909.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Harold and all, I have problems installing the test server via setup.exe. I try to set this adress: > http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ by clicking "add" in the mirror list. (http://archive.progeny.com is already in the list) The archive that is installed contains 4.0.2-6 version : Administrateur @ #> tar jtvf XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2 -rwxr-xr-x Administrator/None 3010048 2002-06-14 12:35:23 usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe and downloading it directly on the website gives : Administrateur @ #> tar jtvf XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2 -rwxr-xr-x Administrator/None 3064320 2002-06-13 05:50:40 usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe Does it means the installed version isn't the test release ? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 16:15:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:15:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <3D08F206.2030208@psyon.org> Message-ID: <20020616195457.13250.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> I downloaded source of glib (1.2-10) in order to compile gtk+. It fails with the follwing errors: gstrfuncs.c: In function `g_strsignal': gstrfuncs.c:705: conflicting types for `strsignal' /usr/include/string.h:70: previous declaration of `strsignal' gstrfuncs.c:705: warning: extern declaration of `strsignal' doesn't match global one --- Psyon a ??crit??: > I have GTK+ and GNOME compiled inside CYGWIN. I > used the directions on > the page linked from the main Cygwin page. It seems > to run ok for me, > but I dont play with a lot of stuff on it though. I > know some other > people said it wasnt stable enough to be a package > though. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 16 16:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:41:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] Message-ID: <200206162037.g5GKbKP28478@pilot04.cl.msu.edu> Sylvain, > Does it means the installed version isn't the test > release ? I downloaded the XWin-Test59.exe.bz2 file and the XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2 package from archive.progeny.com. Both archives had the version of XWin.exe from 20020614 (which is the Test59 binary). You must be inadvertantly pointing your `tar jvtf' at an older version of XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-6.tar.bz2. I don't like to have the Server Test Series releases distributed via setup.exe (because of versioning questions that I'm about to describe), but I decided to do it anyway to try to increase the testing of the Server Test Series releases. The primary problem is that to make test releases available via setup.exe I need to put a caveat lector (let the reader beware) for setup.exe users in the release announcements that would be so huge as to distract attention from the test release itself. The problem, as I see it, is that I need someway to version test releases such that I can indicate that one test release is newer than other test releases but also so that any given test release is seen as older than the latest stable release. The way I've chosen to do that for now is to give the test releases the version number of the *next* stable release. If I release 5 unstable releases between a stable release they will all have the same version. What is a user to do? Any user that messes with installing Server Test Series releases via Cygwin's setup.exe must uninstall their XFree86-xserv package before attempting to grab the latest Server Test Series release or any new stable release. Why? Because setup.exe doesn't know that a package with version 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-13 is older than the next Server Test Series (or stable) release 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-14. The behavior that I want from Cygwin's setup.exe, if it isn't already present and clearly documented, is as such: 1) Allow a different versioning scheme for the `test:' tag in setup.hint than the `curr:' tag (i.e., allow a test versioning scheme of 20020613-2245 for test and 4.2.0-6 for 'curr'. 2) Allow some way to indicate that the latest stable release supersedes all test releases up to a certain version. Alternatively, the test version could be 4.2.0-6-test-20020613-2245 (or something similar, whatever you need to make parsing easy and to retain compatibility with other versioning schemes). 3) When setup.exe sees that 4.2.0-6 stable is available it installs 4.2.0-6 stable overtop of whatever test release is installed (if the user allows the upgrade). Hmm... maybe I just have to use both the `curr:' and the `test:' tag in setup.hint and update them every time? One last question then: does setup.exe *ever* try to upgrade a test release to a stable release? Or does setup.exe just assume that any user who has installed a test release has taken the responsibility upon themselves as to when they should upgrade to the newest stable release? Harold From robert.collins@syncretize.net Sun Jun 16 19:28:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:28:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] In-Reply-To: <200206162037.g5GKbKP28478@pilot04.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <001401c21577$899aa4a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt > Sent: Monday, 17 June 2002 6:37 AM > The primary problem is that to make test releases available > via setup.exe I > need to put a caveat lector (let the reader beware) for > setup.exe users in the > release announcements that would be so huge as to distract > attention from the > test release itself. The problem, as I see it, is that I > need someway to > version test releases such that I can indicate that one test > release is newer > than other test releases but also so that any given test > release is seen as > older than the latest stable release. The way I've chosen to > do that for now > is to give the test releases the version number of the *next* > stable release. > If I release 5 unstable releases between a stable release > they will all have > the same version. The setup.ini format has two orthogonal parameters describing packages. One is version number. The other is 'Trust'. Trust is a 3 valued parameter - prev, curr, test/exp. Marking a package version as test means it will not be installed by default, it will require the user to cycle through the version list, or click on 'test' in the setup.exe chooser to have the package install. I'd suggest naming test releases like this: If current is 4.2.0-6 then Test could be 4.2.0-6Test1 Test could be 4.2.0-6Test2 Test could be 4.2.0-6Test3 Or even 4.2.0-6Test59 And the next release is 4.2.0-7 As long as the filenames and version numbers never equate, setup will do the right thing. And the Test marking will be obvious. > What is a user to do? Any user that messes with installing > Server Test Series > releases via Cygwin's setup.exe must uninstall their > XFree86-xserv package > before attempting to grab the latest Server Test Series > release or any new > stable release. Why? Because setup.exe doesn't know that a > package with > version 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-13 is older than the next > Server Test Series > (or stable) release 4.2.0-6 with date 2002-06-14. Setup cannot discriminate between packages with the exact same version number. Users will not need to uninstall their current package with what I'm suggesting - setup will do that automatically. > The behavior that I want from Cygwin's setup.exe, if it isn't > already present > and clearly documented, is as such: > > 1) Allow a different versioning scheme for the `test:' tag in > setup.hint than > the `curr:' tag (i.e., allow a test versioning scheme of > 20020613-2245 for > test and 4.2.0-6 for 'curr'. Already done. The schemes have to obey a very small policy, which both of the above do. > 2) Allow some way to indicate that the latest stable release > supersedes all > test releases up to a certain version. Alternatively, the > test version could > be 4.2.0-6-test-20020613-2245 (or something similar, whatever > you need to make > parsing easy and to retain compatibility with other > versioning schemes). Do my suggested version numbers above meet this criteria for you? > 3) When setup.exe sees that 4.2.0-6 stable is available it > installs 4.2.0-6 > stable overtop of whatever test release is installed (if the > user allows the > upgrade). Hmm, not sure on this one. You should create a trivial setup.ini file and test locally. This becomes a matter of policy for the cygwin-apps list. I *think* that the current behaviour is this, or very close anyway. > Hmm... maybe I just have to use both the `curr:' and the > `test:' tag in > setup.hint and update them every time? You will need to do that to get the correct info in setup.ini. > One last question then: does setup.exe *ever* try to upgrade > a test release to > a stable release? Or does setup.exe just assume that any user who has > installed a test release has taken the responsibility upon > themselves as to > when they should upgrade to the newest stable release? It treats the test release as a user decision, but will default on all changes to go back to current - unless the user chooses to stay on test. I.e. it'll downgrade to stable by default. Again, this is from memory, I don't recall the exact decision that was reached in cygapps. It can, of course, be reviewed and discussed. Rob From gp@familiehaase.de Sun Jun 16 21:27:00 2002 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:27:00 -0000 Subject: mailing list archive In-Reply-To: <20020615144401.51517.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020615144401.51517.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <125706124343.20020616234507@familiehaase.de> Hallo Sylvain, > --- Randy Bush a ?crit?: >> been through the faq and docs. but before i ask >> already answered questions, is there a searchable mailing list >> archive somewhere? > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ Also searching through google.com may help since it is a little faster: "keyword site:cygwin.com" Gerrit -- =^..^= From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Sun Jun 16 22:59:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:59:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] In-Reply-To: <200206162037.g5GKbKP28478@pilot04.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020616220004.62271.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> This not what I wanted to mean. I think that the archive who has been installed is the archive that exists at http://archive.progeny.com/ that has been installed as it is already in the site list. When I try to add http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ to the mirrors list, I get no visual effect. (ie no line is added into the mirror list). Comments ? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 00:53:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:53:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] Message-ID: <200206162315.g5GNFZh46596@pilot26.cl.msu.edu> Sylvain, > When I try to add > http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/testing/ > to the mirrors list, I get no visual effect. (ie no > line is added into the mirror list). Go to the mailing list archives and re-read the announcements for Test58 and Test59. Notice that the boilerplate text has changed regarding installing via Cygwin's setup.exe. As of Test59 you no longer need to point setup.exe to the cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory. In fact, if you do point setup.exe there you'll only get old releases, such as Test58. I'll remove that directory eventually so that people will realize that they are not doing the right thing anymore. Does that answer your question? Harold From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Jun 17 02:25:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:25:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] In-Reply-To: <200206162315.g5GNFZh46596@pilot26.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020616234152.70595.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> > Go to the mailing list archives and re-read the > announcements for Test58 and > Test59. Notice that the boilerplate text has > changed regarding installing via > Cygwin's setup.exe. As of Test59 you no longer need > to point setup.exe to the > cygwin/xfree/testing/ directory. In fact, if you do > point setup.exe there > you'll only get old releases, such as Test58. I'll > remove that directory > eventually so that people will realize that they are > not doing the right thing > anymore. > > Does that answer your question? > > Harold Understood. I thinkthat answers my question. In order to conclude the bugreport, verifying if everything is correct : what is the correct size for Test59 XWin.exe (ie for now XFree86-xserv-4.0.2-6)? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 03:12:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 03:12:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 58 [Robert Collins, this one is for you] Message-ID: <200206170228.g5H2S7942806@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Sylvain, > what is the correct size for Test59 XWin.exe (ie for > now XFree86-xserv-4.0.2-6)? The correct size for Test 59's XWin.exe is 3010048 bytes. The executable got smaller because we no longer include the experimental RANDR extension along with its supporting LAYER library/extension/layer (I'm not sure what to call it). Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 05:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 05:41:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 Message-ID: All changes from Server Test Series releases Test 56, Test 57, Test 58, and Test 59. Changes: 1) win.h, xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf - Stop building RANDR and disable Cygwin/XFree86's LAYER support. These two extensions were causing KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to not display. RENDER is still enabled. (Harold Hunt) 2) xc/programs/Xserver/os/osinit.c - Don't close the stdin, stdout, stderr file handles on Cygwin. We are no longer a command-line application so stdin, stdout, and stderr point to our first three file handles, rather than to their usual locations. This keeps the log file from being closed when you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin.exe'. (Stuart Adamson) 3) winwndproc.c - Call TrackMouseEvent to setup tracking for the WM_MOUSELEAVE message. When we see a WM_MOUSELEAVE message we show the cursor if we are hiding it. This will prevent cursors from disappearing when using the -lesspointer parameter. (Harold Hunt) 4) InitOutput.c, XWin.man, win.h, winwndproc.c - Add the -lesspointer command line parameter which causes Cygwin/XFree86 to hide the Windows mouse cursor when the mouse is over any Cygwin/XFree86 window (whether activated or not). (Stuart Adamson) 5) winwndproc.c - Call DefWindowProc after processing WM_NCMOUSEMOVE messages. This should fix the highlighting of the minimize and exit buttons in Windows XP. (Jehan Bing) 6) winwndproc.c, win.h, winallpriv.c - Make the cursor state variable, fCursor, a static local variable in winwndproc.c/winWindowProc (), rather than a member variable in the winPrivScreenRec structure. This makes sense because the Windows cursor is either hidden or shown, as Windows does not hide or show the mouse cursor on a per-window basis. This also greatly simplifies the handling of hiding and showing the Windows mouse cursor. (Jehan Bing) 7) InitOutput.c, win.h, wincreatewnd.c - Add a -nodecoration parameter that creates the Cygwin/XFree86 window that is the same size as the desktop, without a border. The end effect is that you can still get to the taskbar (even with Auto Hide enabled) and easily switch to other application while not giving up any screen space to the title bar, borders, etc. (Jehan Bing) 8) winkeybd.c - Disregard the bogus key releases that we see when losing the focus via Alt+Tab. (Stuart Adamson) 9) win.h, winkeybd.h, winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c - Release all pressed keys when the X server loses the keyboard focus. (Stuart Adamson) 10) InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) 11) wincursor.c - See if we are the foreground window before warping the Windows cursor position. This fixes the new bug that occurs if you launch Cygwin/XFree86 and give another application the focus. In that case the Windows mouse cursor would still jump to the center of the screen, even though the Cygwin/XFree86 window was not active. (Harold Hunt) 12) winkeybd.h - Fix the bug where pressing both shift keys then releasing them both would still cause all keyboard input to be shift-modified. The fix was to set the fixup for the non-extended VK_SHIFT key to KEY_ShiftL. (Harold Hunt) 13) wincreatewnd.c - Pass SW_SHOWNORMAL instead of SW_HIDE to ShowWindow when running a DirectDraw engine in fullscreen mode. This fixes the bug where launching Cygwin/XFree86 then giving another application the focus before the Cygwin/XFree86 window was displayed would cause Cygwin/XFree86 to never display a window or register a window handle on the Windows taskbar. (Harold Hunt) Harold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(read a previous thread, before subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" seems to do a bit more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile below. is there a working lndir for winME? regards dan swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std $ ls CVS Makefile config fonts programs xmakefile INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std $ make World > World.log 2>&1 swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std $ tail World.log make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' cleaning in ./doc... make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' make: *** [World] Error 2 ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** The Russians used pencils. From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Mon Jun 17 06:26:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:26:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A417@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Took it from a linux machine which had an XFree86 install. I think I changed a couple of mappings in it as well - but not sure. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Sylvain Petreolle [mailto:spetreolle@yahoo.fr] > Sent: 16 June 2002 18:07 > To: Stuart Adamson; 'jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be'; > cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > Where did you find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk ? > > I downloaded every XFree86 package and there is no > file provided. > --- Stuart Adamson a > ?crit?: > You want to run xmodmap. In my > startxwin.bat I do > > > > start /B XWin -loads of options here > > start /B xmodmap.exe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/keyboard.uk > > start /B icewm.exe > > > > Type "man xmodmap" for more details. > > > > Stuart > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be > > [mailto:jerome.stefanini@wanadoo.be] > > > Sent: 13 June 2002 13:36 > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have downloaded cygwin and xfree. Everything is > > working > > > perfectly well except > > > the fact that I can not change the keyboard from > > Qwerty to > > > Azerty. I have not > > > found any explanations in the documentation. > > > > > > Any help? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > J?r?me Stefanini > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Jun 17 06:29:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:29:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A417@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: <20020617092535.29890.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Heh ? Are you saying that a user who doesn't have a Linux machine cannot install cygx correctly ? I can't believe that ! He, someone ! This can't be ! --- Stuart Adamson a ??crit??: > Took it from a linux machine which had an XFree86 > install. I think I > changed a > couple of mappings in it as well - but not sure. > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr Mon Jun 17 09:28:00 2002 From: francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr (Francis VIVAT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:28:00 -0000 Subject: Switching to Azerty keyboard References: <20020617092535.29890.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <07c901c215e7$2bdcbb30$65ad34c1@pcvivat> http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/index.php3?jump=xfree CU . \)|(/ . (o o) . /-----------------ooO----(_)----Ooo-----------------\ .(_| Francis VIVAT | . | CETP-CNRS | . | 10-12, avenue de l'Europe 78140 Velizy | . | Tel : +33 1 3925 4780 | . | Fax : +33 1 3925 4922 |_ . | E-Mail : francis.vivat@cetp.ipsl.fr | ) . \---------------------------------------------------/ . (_) (_) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Petreolle" To: "Stuart Adamson" ; Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: Switching to Azerty keyboard > Heh ? > Are you saying that a user who doesn't have a Linux > machine cannot install cygx correctly ? > I can't believe that ! > > He, someone ! This can't be ! > > --- Stuart Adamson a > ??crit : > Took it from a linux machine which had an > XFree86 > > install. I think I > > changed a > > couple of mappings in it as well - but not sure. > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 10:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <005901c215c4$f5bbe3e0$5800a8c0@bronco> Message-ID: cd x-devel/xc/config/util/ make -f Makefile.ini lndir That should give you a working version of lndir. Proceed as usual from there. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of ...2??... > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:05 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > first time ive ever downloaded the tree. > ive got winME, and lndir does barf on ".." (read a previous thread, before > subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" > seems to do > a bit > more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile > below. is there a working lndir for winME? > > regards > > dan > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ ls > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > xmakefile > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ tail World.log > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > cleaning in ./doc... > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** > NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing > a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, > on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures > ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. > *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** > The Russians used pencils. > From swan@atu.com.au Mon Jun 17 12:03:00 2002 From: swan@atu.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?Q?...2=AB...?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:03:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree References: Message-ID: <002001c215fd$cfab1480$5800a8c0@bronco> thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "...2??..." ; Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:41 PM Subject: RE: broken lndir so cant build tree > cd x-devel/xc/config/util/ > make -f Makefile.ini lndir > > That should give you a working version of lndir. Proceed as usual from > there. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of ...2??... > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:05 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > > > first time ive ever downloaded the tree. > > ive got winME, and lndir does barf on ".." (read a previous thread, before > > subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" > > seems to do > > a bit > > more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile > > below. is there a working lndir for winME? > > > > regards > > > > dan > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ ls > > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > > xmakefile > > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ tail World.log > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > cleaning in ./doc... > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** > > NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing > > a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, > > on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures > > ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. > > *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** > > The Russians used pencils. > > > > From nwourms@yahoo.com Mon Jun 17 12:20:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <002001c215fd$cfab1480$5800a8c0@bronco> Message-ID: <20020617132555.41490.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> Harold, I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. Cheers, Nicholas --- "...2??..." wrote: > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold Hunt" > To: "...2??..." ; > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:41 PM > Subject: RE: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > cd x-devel/xc/config/util/ > > make -f Makefile.ini lndir > > > > That should give you a working version of lndir. Proceed as usual > from > > there. > > > > Harold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of ...2??... > > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:05 AM > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > > > > > > first time ive ever downloaded the tree. > > > ive got winME, and lndir does barf on ".." (read a previous thread, > before > > > subscribing). changing lndir "../../xc" to lndir "~/x-devel/xc" > > > seems to do > > > a bit > > > more. however, i still cant build the tree. a tail of the makefile > > > below. is there a working lndir for winME? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > dan > > > > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > > $ ls > > > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > > > xmakefile > > > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > > > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > > > LABEL bug-report extras nls > workInProgress > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > > $ tail World.log > > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > > cleaning in ./doc... > > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > > > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > > > > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE *************** > > > NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing > > > a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, > > > on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures > > > ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. > > > *************** THE REAL MESSAGE *************** > > > The Russians used pencils. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 12:33:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:33:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree Message-ID: <200206171329.g5HDTnp33210@pilot02.cl.msu.edu> Dan, > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you copied the last lndir.exe to, right? If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc Hope that helps, Harold From boysen@first.gmd.de Mon Jun 17 12:43:00 2002 From: boysen@first.gmd.de (boysen) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:43:00 -0000 Subject: xwin.exe missing Message-ID: <3D0E0E96.9090905@first.gmd.de> Hi, I installed cygwin via the setup program over the internet. The installation process seemed to work ok, but now the xwin.exe file is missing somehow and I cannot get the thing to work. Any suggestions? Thanks! From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Mon Jun 17 12:51:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:51:00 -0000 Subject: xwin.exe missing Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A419@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Quick couple of checks ... 1) Did you select XFree86 in the package list? (if you already had an old cygwin install it won't get automatically selected. Not sure if it's selected by default with latest cygwin.) 2) Are you looking in the right place for it (/use/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe) This might not be in your path by default. Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: boysen [mailto:boysen@first.gmd.de] > Sent: 17 June 2002 17:30 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: xwin.exe missing > > > Hi, > > I installed cygwin via the setup program over the internet. The > installation process seemed to work ok, but now the xwin.exe file is > missing somehow and I cannot get the thing to work. > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 13:15:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:15:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X Message-ID: <200206171903.g5HJ36w33066@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> Hal, First, wrong mailing list. Use cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, where I have redirected this discussion. (Make sure not to reply-to-all since that would send yet another email to the cygwin@cygwin.com mailing list.) > And yes, I checked, xwin is really not on my hard drive. You mean you've looked for XWin.exe (that's the exact capitalization and extension)? >From a Cygwin bash prompt, run: cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86 You should get ouput something like: XFree86-base XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-bin XFree86-bin-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-doc XFree86-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-etc XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-f100 XFree86-f100-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fenc XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fnts XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fscl XFree86-fscl-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-html XFree86-html-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-lib XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-man XFree86-man-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-prog XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-startup-scripts XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-xserv XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-5.tar.bz2 0 The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your version number for this package. Harold From hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com Mon Jun 17 13:22:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com (Hal Rottenberg) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:22:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <200206171903.g5HJ36w33066@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: > First, wrong mailing list. Use cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, sorry, subscribed to the proper list now. > > And yes, I checked, xwin is really not on my hard drive. > > You mean you've looked for XWin.exe (that's the exact > capitalization and extension)? Yup. Just for the heck of it I also used case-insensitive Windows Find Files utility. > From a Cygwin bash prompt, run: > cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86 > The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your > version number for this package. Nope it's not there. I selected everything in the latest setup.exe minus cyrillic and japanese fonts. I don't know how to add or obtain a package that's not in the list. I also tried reinstalling the X category and that didn't help. I'm online to a mirror FTP site right now browsing--haven't found the right package yet. CYGWIN_NT-5.0 HALR9000 1.3.10(0.51/3/2) 2002-02-25 11:14 i686 unknown $ cat /etc/setup/installed.db | grep XFree86 XFree86-base XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-bin XFree86-bin-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-doc XFree86-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-etc XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-f100 XFree86-f100-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fenc XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fnts XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fscl XFree86-fscl-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-fsrv XFree86-fsrv-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-html XFree86-html-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-lib XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-man XFree86-man-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-nest XFree86-nest-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-prog XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-prt XFree86-prt-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-ps XFree86-ps-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-startup-scripts XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 0 XFree86-vfb XFree86-vfb-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 0 From hal_rottenberg@hp.com Mon Jun 17 13:32:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@hp.com (ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:32:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X Message-ID: Ok, I downloaded Xxserv.tgz, placed xwin where it needs to be and I'm up and running. Is this a defect in setup that I encountered? Has anyone else seen this? Next step: KDE. :) > > The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your > > version number for this package. > > Nope it's not there. I selected everything in the latest > setup.exe minus cyrillic and japanese fonts. I don't know > how to add or obtain a package that's not in the list. I > also tried reinstalling the X category and that didn't help. > I'm online to a mirror FTP site right now browsing--haven't > found the right package yet. > > CYGWIN_NT-5.0 HALR9000 1.3.10(0.51/3/2) 2002-02-25 11:14 i686 unknown From evans@aps.anl.gov Mon Jun 17 19:32:00 2002 From: evans@aps.anl.gov (Kenneth Evans, Jr.) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:32:00 -0000 Subject: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing Message-ID: The header X11/Xw32defs.h seems to be missing when you download the headers via XFree-86-headers in Cygwin's setup.exe. Thanks, -Ken c:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\include\X11\Xos.h(142) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'X11/Xw32defs.h': No such file From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 17 19:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:36:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X Message-ID: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Hal, Which mirror where you using for Cygwin's setup.exe? (It will select the last mirror used if you run it again... or look in your local package directory and you'll see a directory name for each mirror you have used). I suspect that one or more mirrors out there is having a problem with getting all of the packages. Or, it could be a problem related to the fact that I am usind the 'test:' flag in the setup.hint without any corresponding 'curr:' flag. What version of setup.exe are you running? Harold "ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)" said: > Ok, I downloaded Xxserv.tgz, placed xwin where it needs to be and I'm up and > running. Is this a defect in setup that I encountered? Has anyone else > seen this? > > Next step: KDE. :) > > > > The key package here is XFree86-xserv. Please report your > > > version number for this package. > > > > Nope it's not there. I selected everything in the latest > > setup.exe minus cyrillic and japanese fonts. I don't know > > how to add or obtain a package that's not in the list. I > > also tried reinstalling the X category and that didn't help. > > I'm online to a mirror FTP site right now browsing--haven't > > found the right package yet. > > > > CYGWIN_NT-5.0 HALR9000 1.3.10(0.51/3/2) 2002-02-25 11:14 i686 unknown > From cgf-noreply@cygwin.com Mon Jun 17 23:55:00 2002 From: cgf-noreply@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:55:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020617201546.GA11390@redhat.com> Redirecting to the correct mailing list. cgf On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 02:59:47PM -0400, Hal Rottenberg wrote: >And yes, I checked, xwin is really not on my hard drive. > > >Hal Rottenberg | Email: hal_rottenberg@hp.com >Technical Support Engineer | Jabber: hal_rottenberg@jabber.hp.com >http://www.hp.com/security | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 > HEWLETT-PACKARD > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hal Rottenberg [mailto:hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:51 PM >> To: Cygwin >> Subject: Problem starting X >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I've just installed Xfree86 over my existing cygwin install. >> I see that it installed the startxwin.bat and .sh files, but >> if I try to use them I get error finding the file XWin, which >> seems to be the x server itself. I've got cygwin-xf86-base >> checked in the setup. Cany anyone spot what I'm doing wrong? >> >> thanks >> >> P.S. Do not use reply, email address above was mangled to >> protect against spam. >> >> Hal Rottenberg | Hewlett-Packard >> Technical Support Engineer | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 >> Internet Security Division | Email: hal_rottenberg@NO-SPAM.hp.com >> (remove "NO-SPAM." to email me) >> Web: http://www.hp.com/security >> >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >> Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >> Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >> FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ >> > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 18 02:05:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 02:05:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020617202311.GA11650@redhat.com> On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 03:50:52PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Which mirror where you using for Cygwin's setup.exe? (It will select >the last mirror used if you run it again... or look in your local >package directory and you'll see a directory name for each mirror you >have used). I suspect that one or more mirrors out there is having a >problem with getting all of the packages. The mirrors list is updated twice a day. If there is a package missing or out-of-date from the mirror, it is dropped from the list. So, there should not be many problems with out-of-date mirrors. >Or, it could be a problem related to the fact that I am usind the >'test:' flag in the setup.hint without any corresponding 'curr:' flag. >What version of setup.exe are you running? You do have to specify both test and curr if you want both a test and a curr version. As soon as you specify any one of curr, test, or prev, you have to explicitly specify everything. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 04:07:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing Message-ID: <200206172032.g5HKWUR45712@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Ken, What package are you trying to build? We've had a report that building OpenMOTIF causes this error because of a spurious #define. Harold "Kenneth Evans, Jr." said: > The header X11/Xw32defs.h seems to be missing when you download the headers > via XFree-86-headers in Cygwin's setup.exe. Thanks, > > -Ken > > c:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\include\X11\Xos.h(142) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open > include file: 'X11/Xw32defs.h': No such file > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 05:09:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree Message-ID: <200206180232.g5I2WXI32038@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Keep replies to the mailing list only. Chris has informed me that there was a problem with lndir a within the last few weeks caused by a problem in cygwin1.dll. Make sure that you have the latest cygwin1.dll (by running the latest setup.exe from http://cygwin.com/setup.exe) and if that doesn't work try downloading a cygwin1.dll snapshot to see if the problem has been fixed since the last release (look on http://cygwin.com/ for the link to the snapshot page). Harold "...2??..." said: > lndir still, and always had, made a bunch of links regardless of the arg. > but either ive failed to d/ from cvs properly or lndir is traversing and > stopping somewhere it shouldnt. is there anyway to double check i > have the correct source tree to begin with? i try cvs update -d > all the time. > > dan > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ rm std/ -rf > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ mkdir std > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ cd std/ > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ lndir.exe /home/swan/x-devel/xc > ..: File exists > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ ls > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ tail World.log > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > cleaning in ./doc... > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ which lndir > /usr/bin/lndir > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold L Hunt" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 PM > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > Dan, > > > > > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > > > You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you copied the > last > > lndir.exe to, right? > > > > If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as > > lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > Harold > > > > > > From swan@atu.com.au Tue Jun 18 05:21:00 2002 From: swan@atu.com.au (=?Windows-1252?Q?...2=AB...?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:21:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree References: <200206180232.g5I2WXI32038@pilot25.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <00ab01c21671$d435b400$5800a8c0@bronco> eeek sorry bout that, my bad. ill give that ago cheers dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold L Hunt" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:32 PM Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > Keep replies to the mailing list only. > > Chris has informed me that there was a problem with lndir a within the last > few weeks caused by a problem in cygwin1.dll. Make sure that you have the > latest cygwin1.dll (by running the latest setup.exe from > http://cygwin.com/setup.exe) and if that doesn't work try downloading a > cygwin1.dll snapshot to see if the problem has been fixed since the last > release (look on http://cygwin.com/ for the link to the snapshot page). > > Harold > > "...2??..." said: > > > lndir still, and always had, made a bunch of links regardless of the arg. > > but either ive failed to d/ from cvs properly or lndir is traversing and > > stopping somewhere it shouldnt. is there anyway to double check i > > have the correct source tree to begin with? i try cvs update -d > > all the time. > > > > dan > > > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > > $ rm std/ -rf > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > > $ mkdir std > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > > $ cd std/ > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ lndir.exe /home/swan/x-devel/xc > > ..: File exists > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ ls > > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ tail World.log > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > > cleaning in ./doc... > > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > > $ which lndir > > /usr/bin/lndir > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Harold L Hunt" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 PM > > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > > > > > You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you copied the > > last > > > lndir.exe to, right? > > > > > > If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as > > > lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc > > > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de Tue Jun 18 05:22:00 2002 From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:22:00 -0000 Subject: Question: Function keys in Xterm/RXVT References: Message-ID: <3D0ED98F.5060603@visicon-online.de> Hi out there! I got a question concerning xterm and rxvt with cygwin. When I run xterm under LinuX, all function keys are passed to the application running (e.g. Midnight Commander). When I try doing the same with cygwin, only F1 to F4 are passed through, F5 and higher result in some key messages on the command line. With rxvt none of the function keys work. When I log into a linux box and start xterm on the remote session (still display is the cygwin box) erverything works (all function keys and even mouse support). What did I miss with the cygwin installation of xterm? Did I make a serious configuration mistake? Regards, Uwe ps: hope this is the right list... From keh112@york.ac.uk Tue Jun 18 05:39:00 2002 From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:39:00 -0000 Subject: Xwin.exe missing Message-ID: I have had a few problems with programs that need cygwin and come with their own distribution messing up my path (eg octave). Could this be the case in your case? Running setup again fixes it for me. -- Kirsty Hollingworth "The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers." Sydney J. Harris From hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com Tue Jun 18 05:40:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@issl.atl.hp.com (Hal Rottenberg) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:40:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <200206171950.g5HJorW68016@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: > Which mirror where you using for Cygwin's setup.exe? (It > will select the last mirror used if you run it again... or > look in your local package directory and you'll see a > directory name for each mirror you have used). I suspect > that one or more mirrors out there is having a problem with > getting all of the packages. > > Or, it could be a problem related to the fact that I am usind > the 'test:' flag in the setup.hint without any corresponding > 'curr:' flag. What version of setup.exe are you running? Grabbed a new setup.exe yesterday, version 2.249.2.3. Mirror: http://archive.progeny.com I tried again this morning and guess what? Right at the bottom where none existed before is now the xserv package. thanks for your help -hal From vaillant@recrutonline.com Tue Jun 18 05:47:00 2002 From: vaillant@recrutonline.com (vaillant@recrutonline.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:47:00 -0000 Subject: Votre avenir... Message-ID: vaillant@recrutonline.com Message-ID: Bonjour, Vous ??tes en recherche active d'emploi ou en situation de l'??tre prochainement ? Vous voulez tester les opportunit??s actuelles du march?? de l'informatique ? Alors d??posez en moins de 2 minutes votre CV sur RECRUTONLINE, cliquez sur http://www.recrutonline.com/fr/candidats/?p=inscription Ainsi vous pourrez ??tre contact?? par les recruteurs en recherche de comp??tences et avoir acc??s ?? leurs offres d'emplois. 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Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Evans, Jr. [mailto:evans@aps.anl.gov] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:08 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: RE: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing > > > Harold, > > I'm trying to build a program (X client) that uses libX, libXm, etc. using > Visual C++ as the compiler. (So far unsuccessfully.) It looks like this > header is included if WIN32 is defined, which I do. > > I now see the XFree86 stuff probably was not designed to be using > WIN32 this > way. So, perhaps as far as XFree86 is concerned it *is* > spurious. (But the > branch on WIN32 *is* in Xos.h.) > > BTW *is* it possible to build an X client using the XFree86 and LessTif > libraries with Visual C++? > > I have been doing this using the Hummingbird Exceed X and Motif libraries, > but I would like to consider changing to XFree86 and LessTif. (Open Motif > would be even better, but it isn't "open" for Windows.) The same programs > build with Open Motif or LessTif on Linux. It would be a lot > easier to use > stuff that more resembles UNIX as XFree86 does. And it would be nicer to > use the "same" stuff on all platforms. > > An alternative is to use the Cygwin compiler (gcc). This been more > successful. Then, WIN32 is not defined, but there are some other > problems. > > Thanks, > > -Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:32 PM > To: Kenneth Evans@msu.edu, Jr.; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing > > > Ken, > > What package are you trying to build? > > We've had a report that building OpenMOTIF causes this error because of a > spurious #define. > > Harold > > "Kenneth Evans, Jr." said: > > > The header X11/Xw32defs.h seems to be missing when you download the > headers > > via XFree-86-headers in Cygwin's setup.exe. Thanks, > > > > -Ken > > > > c:\Cygwin\usr\X11R6\include\X11\Xos.h(142) : fatal error C1083: Cannot > open > > include file: 'X11/Xw32defs.h': No such file > > > > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 06:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 06:14:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <008301c2166c$19b3fba0$5800a8c0@bronco> Message-ID: Gotta reply to the list, not me. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: ...2??... [mailto:swan@atu.com.au] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:02 PM > To: Harold L Hunt > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > lndir still, and always had, made a bunch of links regardless of the arg. > but either ive failed to d/ from cvs properly or lndir is traversing and > stopping somewhere it shouldnt. is there anyway to double check i > have the correct source tree to begin with? i try cvs update -d > all the time. > > dan > > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ rm std/ -rf > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ mkdir std > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build > $ cd std/ > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ lndir.exe /home/swan/x-devel/xc > ..: File exists > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ ls > CVS Makefile config fonts programs > INSTALL-X.org RELNOTES cvs-update.log include registry > Imakefile RELNOTES-X.org doc lib util > LABEL bug-report extras nls workInProgress > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ make World > World.log 2>&1 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ tail World.log > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/fonts' > cleaning in ./doc... > make[2]: Entering directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/xc/doc' > make[1]: *** [clean] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swan/x-devel/build/std' > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > swan@BRONCO ~/x-devel/build/std > $ which lndir > /usr/bin/lndir > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harold L Hunt" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 PM > Subject: Re: broken lndir so cant build tree > > > > Dan, > > > > > thanks for the idea, but im getting the same behaviour with that also. > > > > You did remember to copy lndir.exe to /usr/bin or wherever you > copied the > last > > lndir.exe to, right? > > > > If so, then just go ahead and specify a full path, such as > > lndir /home/dan/x-devel/xc > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > Harold > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 10:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:18:00 -0000 Subject: FW: xwinclip i18n patch Message-ID: This is Kensuke Matsuzaki's initial I18N patch for xwinclip. He sent a follow-up that I will forward shortly. Harold -----Original Message----- From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [mailto:zakki@peppermint.jp] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 4:25 AM To: Harold Hunt Subject: xwinclip i18n patch This is a patch that add COMPOUND_TEXT and TARGETS support and little fix for UTF8_STRING to xwinclip. /** * MATSUZAKI Kensuke * mail: zakki@peppermint.jp **/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xwinclip-i18n.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11886 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 10:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:24:00 -0000 Subject: FW: xwinclip i18n patch Message-ID: This is Kensuke Matsuzaki's second I18N patch for xwinclip. Let me know what you guys think of it. I'm going to apply it within a few days, with the change that it will determine if you are running Windows 95/98/Me or Windows NT/2000/XP before it tries calling GetClipboardData with CF_UNICODETEXT, which only works on NT/2000/XP. Harold -----Original Message----- From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [mailto:zakki@peppermint.jp] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:50 PM To: Harold Hunt Cc: MATSUZAKI Kensuke Subject: Re: xwinclip i18n patch Hi. I send new patch that use Xutf8* and CF_UNICODETEXT. Previous patch use Xmb*, but XLocase doesn't well on ja_JP.SJIS(Japanese encoding), so it is necessary for Japanese to apply Mr Fujieda's I18n extension for Cygwin DLL. #http://www.jaist.ac.jp/~fujieda/cygwin/i18n.shtml New patch workes without Fujieda's path. GetClipboardData(CF_UNICODETEXT) is supported only NT/2000/XP. And CP_UTF8 for WideCharToMultiByte is not supported in 95. I used it for dozens minutes on Windows 2000/XP. I can cut&paste Japanesse text between Internet Explorer/Notepad on Windows and Emacs/Mozilla/KWord on X. It seems this patch works well. But I have not tested other locale something like Chinese, Korean, Thai. /** * MATSUZAKI Kensuke * mail: zakki@peppermint.jp **/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xwinclip-i18n-utf.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12923 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 10:46:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:46:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting X In-Reply-To: <20020617202311.GA11650@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, > You do have to specify both test and curr if you want both a test and a > curr version. As soon as you specify any one of curr, test, or prev, > you have to explicitly specify everything. Done. Thanks. Harold From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Jun 18 11:20:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:20:00 -0000 Subject: Header X11/Xw32defs.h missing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020618124830.GD1106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > I now see the XFree86 stuff probably was not designed to be using > > WIN32 this > > way. So, perhaps as far as XFree86 is concerned it *is* > > spurious. (But the > > branch on WIN32 *is* in Xos.h.) > > > > BTW *is* it possible to build an X client using the XFree86 and LessTif > > libraries with Visual C++? It's probably possible, but you'd need to undef some things like WIN32, and possibly others. > > I have been doing this using the Hummingbird Exceed X and Motif libraries, > > but I would like to consider changing to XFree86 and LessTif. (Open Motif > > would be even better, but it isn't "open" for Windows.) The same programs > > build with Open Motif or LessTif on Linux. It would be a lot > > easier to use > > stuff that more resembles UNIX as XFree86 does. And it would be nicer to > > use the "same" stuff on all platforms. > > > > An alternative is to use the Cygwin compiler (gcc). This been more > > successful. Then, WIN32 is not defined, but there are some other > > problems. That would be the best approach, but what other problems are you seeing ? Alan. From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 18 11:52:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020618131450.69362.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Where are they ? And if they exist why doesn't a package has been made ? --- Jean-Claude Gervais a ??crit : > You have to apply the cygwin patches to it and then > it compiles perfectly. > I was able to run all the sample GTK apps too. > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From cgf-noreply@cygwin.com Tue Jun 18 12:09:00 2002 From: cgf-noreply@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <20020617132555.41490.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> References: <002001c215fd$cfab1480$5800a8c0@bronco> <20020617132555.41490.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020618171900.GA4858@redhat.com> On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 06:25:49AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: >I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. >I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. Was this ever posted? I never saw it, if so. cgf From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Tue Jun 18 14:02:00 2002 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:02:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin References: <20020618131450.69362.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D0F6CC1.8000701@ece.gatech.edu> Where: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/ (+ look at the links on that site) why they aren't official: nobody has volunteered to become the maintainer. See this page for information on creating setup-installable packages: http://cygwin.com/setup.html You'll see it is a lot of work, and nobody has yet had the time. Further, they depend on things that are not packages themselves (cygipc, libiconv, etc) -- and the rule is: "no official package may depend on anything but other official packages"(*) (*) one exception, which predated this policy: postgres depends on cygipc. Care to volunteer, instead of whine? --Chuck Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > Where are they ? > And if they exist why doesn't a package has been made > ? > > --- Jean-Claude Gervais a > ??crit : > You have to apply the cygwin patches to it > and then > >>it compiles perfectly. >>I was able to run all the sample GTK apps too. From fbregier@webmails.com Tue Jun 18 15:41:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:41:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <20020618173310.23182.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 18 17:12:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:12:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <200206181820.g5IIKZ224290@pilot21.cl.msu.edu> Frederic, > Does someone know how to fix it ? > It looks like this is only a problem of XFree with a color of more than > 8 bit, > but I don't understand why ? Your problem may be caused by the RANDR and LAYER extensions that were recently turned off (Server Test Series - Test 59) because they caused KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to fail to display. Please try Test 59, which can be installed via Cygwin's setup.exe by selecting the XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-6 package. For more instructions and the release announcement, see: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2002-06/msg00008.html Please reply to the mailing list with your results. I'd be interested to know if this fixes your problem or not. > This is for me the very last (I hope) thing that prevents me to > change all of our Exc..d with Cygwin/Xfree (gov company). On a side note: I wish that we had some idea how many users we have out there. From what I've seen on the web there seem to be a lot of system administrators that are installing Cygwin/XFree86 as a gateway to UNIX or Linux machines. These installations might be 10 to 100 users, but we have no way of knowing because these users have no idea that they are using an open source project, so they never email the mailing list for support... Regardless, I love seeing Cygwin/XFree86 saving governments or government contractors money. We're putting money back in the peoples' pockets :) Good luck, Harold From nwourms@yahoo.com Tue Jun 18 17:28:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:28:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <20020618171900.GA4858@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020618185209.41891.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 06:25:49AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > >I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. > > >I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. > > Was this ever posted? I never saw it, if so. > > cgf Chris, It works now, thanks to your excellent skills in repairing that bad Pierre patch ;-). Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 03:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:05:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree Message-ID: <200206181909.g5IJ9mD28824@pilot27.cl.msu.edu> Nicholas, What was patched? cygwin1.dll? If so, I need to know the status of this, i.e., I need to know the version that fixes the problem, and if it isn't released I need to know the snapshot date, etc. Thanks, Harold Nicholas Wourms said: > --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 06:25:49AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote: > > >I can confirm this with the the latest snapshot of cygwin on WindowsME. > > > > >I'll run an strace later and see what the problem is. > > > > Was this ever posted? I never saw it, if so. > > > > cgf > Chris, > > It works now, thanks to your excellent skills in repairing that bad Pierre > patch ;-). > > Cheers, > Nicholas > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com Wed Jun 19 04:07:00 2002 From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:07:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin Message-ID: <20020618220216.4c30289f.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com> Hi On my website at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/ I have published the patches that I found that I needed to apply to build a gnome 1.4 desktop and some gnome apps on cygwin on NT/2k/XP. These are "unofficial", unsupported, and very experimental; suitable only for experienced users of gnome, cygwin, and the gnu build tools. That said, I think that it is the best you will find at present for a genuine gnome "experience" on Windows. I am currently, slowly, working to build binary packages, and add support for 9x/Me. But as I am the only person working on this project, and I have 40 packages to maintain, it will be quite some time before any binaries are published, and they may never make to it "official" cygwin package status, for the reasons stated by Chuck. However, I do hope that they will eventually be published somewhere as unsupported pre-built binaries that you can point cygwin setup.exe at, much like cygwin-KDE is at the moment. I'll let you know if I ever get that far. Steven Original message: Where: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/ (+ look at the links on that site) why they aren't official: nobody has volunteered to become the maintainer. See this page for information on creating setup-installable packages: http://cygwin.com/setup.html You'll see it is a lot of work, and nobody has yet had the time. Further, they depend on things that are not packages themselves (cygipc, libiconv, etc) -- and the rule is: "no official package may depend on anything but other official packages"(*) (*) one exception, which predated this policy: postgres depends on cygipc. Care to volunteer, instead of whine? --Chuck Sylvain Petreolle wrote: Where are they ? And if they exist why doesn't a package has been made ? --- Jean-Claude Gervais a ??crit : > You have to apply the cygwin patches to it and then it compiles perfectly. I was able to run all the sample GTK apps too. From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Wed Jun 19 06:52:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:52:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 References: Message-ID: <3D0FB6FA.6020008@stanfordalumni.org> Harold Hunt wrote: > All changes from Server Test Series releases Test 56, Test 57, Test 58, and > Test 59. > Are these patches in the CVS tree for the sourceforge.net xoncygwin project? I am assuming that is where Cygwin/XFree86 development happens and when things are stable they get fed to the XFree86 developers and added to their CVS tree. - Ian -- Ian Burrell iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From cgf@redhat.com Wed Jun 19 08:03:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:03:00 -0000 Subject: broken lndir so cant build tree In-Reply-To: <200206181909.g5IJ9mD28824@pilot27.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206181909.g5IJ9mD28824@pilot27.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020619001319.GA13277@redhat.com> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 03:09:48PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Nicholas, > >What was patched? cygwin1.dll? If so, I need to know the status of this, >i.e., I need to know the version that fixes the problem, and if it isn't >released I need to know the snapshot date, etc. I think it was this patch that fixed it: 2002-06-09 Christopher Faylor * fhandler_disk_file.cc (fhandler_disk_file::fstat_helper): Correctly set number of links for directory, if appropriate. This was fixing a thinko on my part, not Pierre's. This was fixed in CVS and subsequent snapshots. AFAIK, if you stick with Cygwin 1.3.10, you won't see this problem since it should have been introduced only in the fstat cleanup that happened after the 1.3.10 release. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 08:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 In-Reply-To: <3D0FB6FA.6020008@stanfordalumni.org> Message-ID: Ian, The xoncygwin tree on sourceforge is for the Native GDI development only. We're trying to keep the tree on sourceforge up to date, but that is not our primary concern. So, you kinda had it backwards :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@stanfordalumni.org] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:41 PM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - patches up to Test59 > > > Harold Hunt wrote: > > All changes from Server Test Series releases Test 56, Test 57, > Test 58, and > > Test 59. > > > > Are these patches in the CVS tree for the sourceforge.net xoncygwin > project? I am assuming that is where Cygwin/XFree86 development happens > and when things are stable they get fed to the XFree86 developers and > added to their CVS tree. > > - Ian > > -- > Ian Burrell > iburrell@stanfordalumni.org > http://www.znark.com/ > From fbregier@webmails.com Wed Jun 19 09:09:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:09:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From nwourms@yahoo.com Wed Jun 19 10:16:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:16:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <20020618220216.4c30289f.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20020619110700.58563.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Harold, Weren't you working on atk, glib, gtk+, gtk--, pango, and libungif? What's the word on these or have you been busy with other stuff? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve, The following packages are now part of the main dist: libxml, libxslt Also, the good news is there will (soon) be maintainers for official cygwin packages of: 1)I will be releasing db-4.0.14 shortly after the db-2 and db-3.3 releases. 2)I will volunteer to maintain audiofile as part of the main dist. 3)ImageMagick will be released soon (i hope) by David Billinghurst 4)Guile is being actively worked on, and is promised for release by Jan Nieuwenhuizen once it reaches 1.6. 5)Harold should be (not certain though) releasing the aforementioned packages in the first paragraph. So hopefully that will help to ease your support of the support libraries and allow you to focus more on the core packages of Gnome :-). My reccomendation would be to redo the autoconf.in and Makefile.am's to comply with autoconf-2.53a, automake-1.6.1, and libtool-1.4e-05/2002. This trio makes building dll's a whole lot easier. Also check out the new binutils release, as well. Cheers, Nicholas ------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Steven O'Brien wrote: > I am currently, slowly, working to build binary packages, and add > support for 9x/Me. But as I am the only person working on this project, > and I have 40 packages to maintain, it will be quite some time before > any binaries are published, and they may never make to it "official" > cygwin package status, for the reasons stated by Chuck. However, I do > hope that they will eventually be published somewhere as unsupported > pre-built binaries that you can point cygwin setup.exe at, much like > cygwin-KDE is at the moment. I'll let you know if I ever get that far. > > Steven __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From ciccotelli@cesi.it Wed Jun 19 10:36:00 2002 From: ciccotelli@cesi.it (Ciccotelli Massimo) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:36:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? Message-ID: <3D108C83.3030508@cesi.it> Hi all, I have a port of a Linux application on Cygwin which worked fine using XFree version 4.1.0. Executing the code after recompiling with version 4.2.0 it crashes (segmentation fault) when I try to open a menu. I have tried to identify the problem (unfortunately I am not an X11 expert); it seems due to a call of XtManageChild !!! Digging around in the Internet I have found a simple example which shows the same behaviour of my application. the code is the following: #include #include #include #include #include main(int argc, char *argv[]) { XtAppContext app; Widget top_wid, main_w, menu_bar, info, quit; /* callback for the pushbuttons. pops up dialog */ void info_pop_up(), quit_pop_up(); top_wid = XtVaAppInitialize(&app, "Demos", NULL, 0, &argc, argv, NULL, NULL); main_w = XtVaCreateManagedWidget("main_window", xmMainWindowWidgetClass, top_wid, XmNheight, 300, XmNwidth,300, NULL); menu_bar = XmCreateMenuBar(main_w, "main_list", NULL, 0); XtManageChild(menu_bar); /* create quit widget + callback */ quit = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( "Quit", xmCascadeButtonWidgetClass, menu_bar, XmNmnemonic, 'Q', NULL); /* Callback has data passed to */ XtAddCallback(quit, XmNactivateCallback, quit_pop_up, "Are you sure you want to quit?"); XtRealizeWidget(top_wid); XtAppMainLoop(app); } void quit_pop_up(Widget cascade_button, char *text, XmPushButtonCallbackStruct *cbs) { Widget dialog; XmString xm_string; void quit_activate(); Arg args[1]; /* label the dialog */ xm_string = XmStringCreateSimple(text); XtSetArg(args[0], XmNmessageString, xm_string); /* Create the WarningDialog */ dialog = XmCreateWarningDialog(cascade_button, "quit", args, 1); XmStringFree(xm_string); XtAddCallback(dialog, XmNokCallback, quit_activate, NULL); XtManageChild(dialog); // This call crashes the application. XtPopup(XtParent(dialog), XtGrabNone); } /* callback routines for dialogs */ void quit_activate(Widget dialog) { printf("Quit Ok was pressed.\n"); exit(0); } This code compiles and run fine in my Linux (RH7.1) box. Is it a bug??? Am I missing something?? I'm using cygwin 1.3.10 on Win98/Win NT 4 sp6 Thanks a lot, Massimo From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 10:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree In-Reply-To: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> Message-ID: Frederic, You're Java X app only support 8 bits per pixel. That much is now obvious. Cygwin/XFree86 supports only one visual type per screen (basically one bit depth per screen), whereas Exceed can simulate a couple visual types on a single screen. We might be able to implement a feature like that in the future, but it could take a long time. As I see it, you have to do something like this: 1) In, for example, xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c/winInitVisualsShadowDDNL, make another call to miSetVisualTypesAndMasks specifying an 8 bit frame buffer. (Only when in 15 bpp or higher.) 2) In hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c/winAllocateFBShadowDDNL, for example, allocate an 8 bit frame buffer (DirectDraw Surface) in addition to the surface that has the same bit depth as the screen. 3) In hw/xwin/winscrinit.c/winFinishScreenInitFB, make two calls to fbSetupScreen, one with the normal frame buffer and one with the 8 bits per pixel framebuffer. I don't know if calling fbSetupScreen twice is supported. You may have to give the 8 bit per pixel screen a dummy screen number (just pick one that isn't being used). Hopefully you wouldn't have to give a dummy screen number, cause then you'd have to explicity tell all 8 bit clients to connect to the other screen number. If fbSetupScreen doesn't support two calls for the same screen then we may have to see if we can change that or get that changed. 4) In hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c/winShadowUpdateDDNL, for example, blit the two different framebuffers to the screen. Heh, sounds easy, right? :) 5) You may want to look into the LAYER extension, xc/programs/Xserver/miext/layer, which seems to be designed to allow multiple visual types. I was unsuccessful at understanding how to work with it, but you may have better luck. That's a really rough outline, I'd be surprise if anyone could use it to get started, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 10:59:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: gtk with cygwin In-Reply-To: <20020619110700.58563.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nope. I've been busy with other stuff :( Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:07 AM > To: Steven O'Brien; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: gtk with cygwin > > > Harold, > > Weren't you working on atk, glib, gtk+, gtk--, pango, and libungif? > What's the word on these or have you been busy with other stuff? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Steve, > > The following packages are now part of the main dist: > libxml, libxslt > > Also, the good news is there will (soon) be maintainers for official > cygwin packages of: > > 1)I will be releasing db-4.0.14 shortly after the db-2 and db-3.3 > releases. > 2)I will volunteer to maintain audiofile as part of the main dist. > 3)ImageMagick will be released soon (i hope) by David Billinghurst > 4)Guile is being actively worked on, and is promised for release by Jan > Nieuwenhuizen once it reaches 1.6. > 5)Harold should be (not certain though) releasing the aforementioned > packages in the first paragraph. > > So hopefully that will help to ease your support of the support libraries > and allow you to focus more on the core packages of Gnome :-). My > reccomendation would be to redo the autoconf.in and Makefile.am's to > comply with autoconf-2.53a, automake-1.6.1, and libtool-1.4e-05/2002. > This trio makes building dll's a whole lot easier. Also check out the new > binutils release, as well. > > > Cheers, > Nicholas > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Steven O'Brien wrote: > > I am currently, slowly, working to build binary packages, and add > > support for 9x/Me. But as I am the only person working on this project, > > and I have 40 packages to maintain, it will be quite some time before > > any binaries are published, and they may never make to it "official" > > cygwin package status, for the reasons stated by Chuck. However, I do > > hope that they will eventually be published somewhere as unsupported > > pre-built binaries that you can point cygwin setup.exe at, much like > > cygwin-KDE is at the moment. I'll let you know if I ever get that far. > > > > Steven > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From mark.hackmann@philips.com Wed Jun 19 11:31:00 2002 From: mark.hackmann@philips.com (mark.hackmann@philips.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:31:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: Message-ID: All, I'm new to this, but I spent some time looking through the instructions, web pages and archives for this problem, and couldn't find it. My apologies if I missed it. I installed a complete Cygwin and XFree86 on my Windows NT box in standard fashion, with the exception of pointing everything to the D: drive (a partition of the physical drive). This worked swimmingly, and came up with no trouble. However, I noticed a Cygwin subtree on the C: drive that was pretty sparse, having nothing in it until you get down to C:\Cygwin\usr\X11r6\lib\X11\fonts, where there are lots of subdirectories. Hmmm, says I. Is this necessary? So, I moved it to the D: drive in the same place, where, incidentally, there was nothing, and lo and behold, XFree86 is now broken! Here's the log file: ============================================== winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b 742 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' ============================================= Sure enough, the font paths are not qualified with a drive letter. When I copy the stuff back to the C: drive, everything is hunky-dorry. Anyone seen this before, or know what I should do? Maybe it's a bug in setup? Thanks, -Mark From lains@caramail.com Wed Jun 19 12:17:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:17:00 -0000 Subject: XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024504969000532@caramail.com> Hi, As you mentionned in your reply, set -x doesn't show whether children processes are started as background tasks or not. In the script I run, XWin.exe and twm are both started as background tasks. I actually get the same result when I do it on the command-line. What is really strange is that this does not happen all the times. Around 10% of the times I tried to start XWin, I could get it to work. When I manage to have it working once, it will always work the next times (until I reboot). Moreover, once it fails, if I try later on, I can sometimes get it to start. I've tried using Exceed on another machine and this works fine, but cannot Exceed it on my PC, so I need XWin. It started successfully this morning, so I can use XWin for the rest of the day... When XWin.exe doesn't start properly, it just stays on the list of tasks (although it doesn't seem to use any CPU time), and I can't kill it using CygWin's kill -9, I have to End task using WinNT task mamanger. Thanks, Lionel > -------Message d'origine------- > De : Romulus > Date : 15/06/102 01:14:46 > > You need to put things in the background with &'s. Mainly xwin.exe and > twm. Otherwise when the script starts XWin it will wait for Xwin to > finish before continuing on. Which is just as you described it. > > (At least I think that's what's happening... I don't recall if set -x > displays things like &'s. Seeing the actual script, and not its output > when -x is set in the shell, would make me more certain.) > > Open a cygwin shell window and try just 'xwin.exe &' , then 'twm &' , > then see if twm menus activate in the xwin window. > > Kdt > > --- Lionel Ains wrote: > > I'm getting difficulties to start an X server on CygWin > > under WinNT. > > I've installed XFree86 using the standard setup.exe installer. > > > > Here is what I'm getting when I launch startxwin.sh > > > > ~$ startxwin.sh > > + export DISPLAY=LAINS-1:0.0 > > + > > + rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix > > + XWin > > + twm > > + xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 > > > > The process XWin seems to hang and, of course, when I kill > > it, startx returns. > > > > + xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black > > -e /usr/bin/bash > > + exit > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > remaining. > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > remaining. > > > > Is there anything wrong with my config? Any log file I > > should check? > > After several failures, I could manage to start XWin only > > once (running XWin.exe directly also), but I can't get it to > > work again, now that I have rebooted Windows. _________________________________________________________ Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 14:29:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:29:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: Message-ID: <200206191736.g5JHa3W23560@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Mark, I know exactly what happened. You had Cygwin/XFree86 installed on the C drive. Then you removed it by deleting it. (Which left a registry key for Cygwin's mounts either under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Cygnus Solutions/Cygwin/mounts v2/'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts' or under the same key for HKEY_CURRENT_USER. This key points to c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts.) You then reinstalled Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe but pointed it to the d: drive this time. Cygwin's setup.exe was smart enough to correct the mounts for the standard mounts, but it does nothing for other mounts, such as for the fonts directory. We basically need a pre-install script for the fonts package that always unmounts the fonts mount and remounts it to the current Cygwin installation. Then we are ensured that we will intall the fonts on the correct drive or path. I'm not sure if there is such pre-install script handling. Your workaround follows: Open up regedit.exe or regedt32.exe and proceed to the registry keys mentioned above. Edit the fonts mount key and change the drive letter to 'd'. That should do it. You've already moved the fonts to the d drive, so they should be in the right place. Alternatively you can fix this by doing an `unmount' and a `mount', but I don't remember the parameters well enough to tell you exactly what to run... perhaps someone else will give you a quick example. Harold mark.hackmann@philips.com said: > All, > > I'm new to this, but I spent some time looking through the instructions, web pages and archives for this problem, and couldn't find it. My apologies if I missed it. > > I installed a complete Cygwin and XFree86 on my Windows NT box in standard fashion, with the exception of pointing everything to the D: drive (a partition of the physical drive). This worked swimmingly, and came up with no trouble. However, I noticed a > Cygwin subtree on the C: drive that was pretty sparse, having nothing in it until you get down to C:\Cygwin\usr\X11r6\lib\X11\fonts, where there are lots of subdirectories. > > Hmmm, says I. Is this necessary? > > So, I moved it to the D: drive in the same place, where, incidentally, there was nothing, and lo and behold, XFree86 is now broken! Here's the log file: > > ============================================== > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b 742 t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 > winRandRInit () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit () - returning > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > ============================================= > > Sure enough, the font paths are not qualified with a drive letter. When I copy the stuff back to the C: drive, everything is hunky-dorry. > > Anyone seen this before, or know what I should do? Maybe it's a bug in setup? > > Thanks, > > -Mark > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 19 15:32:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:32:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: <200206191743.g5JHhUw23484@pilot28.cl.msu.edu> Thomas, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > I did a quick search in Google concerning NumLock and stumbled upon the > following: > > http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/tag/32.html > > Sounds to me like XWin is doing the right thing, and the behavior when > NumLock is on is expected. Interesting. I was unaware of this switch. However, my conclusion is different. It sounds to me like a couple of engineers decided that NumLock should be a modifier instead of being handled by the server (I'm assuming that means that the server looks it NumLock is one and maps number pad key presses to other keys when this is the case). This was the New Theory of NumLock. Back in reality, 30% of well-known X Clients are oblivious to this New Theory of NumLock. I think we're going to have to revert to the old behavior for NumLock; that is, I think we're going to have to remap key presses for the number pad. Perhaps I'll make this configurable if possible (as to whether NumLock is a modifier or not). Add another one to the To-Do list... Harold From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Wed Jun 19 16:43:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: Development item: NumLock Message-ID: After doing some research on the web, I came up with a plausible workaround for the Numlock problem. I've implemented it and it works great on my computer. Probably don't want to make this a default, but perhaps could go into the FAQ. The idea is that it removes the NumLock modifier from the keyboard map, and forces the Keypad keycodes to always be interpretted as numeric keystrokes. Part 1. Add the following to your XWin startup file of choice (startxwin.bat, startxwin.sh, .xinitrc, etc. with appropriate modifications): xmodmap -e "clear mod2" ${HOME}/.Xmodmap Part 2. Add the following entries to the file ${HOME}/.Xmodmap: keycode 79 = KP_7 KP_Home keycode 80 = KP_8 KP_Up keycode 81 = KP_9 KP_Prior keycode 83 = KP_4 KP_Left keycode 84 = KP_5 KP_Begin keycode 85 = KP_6 KP_Right keycode 87 = KP_1 KP_End keycode 88 = KP_2 KP_Down keycode 89 = KP_3 KP_Next keycode 90 = KP_0 KP_Insert keycode 91 = KP_Decimal KP_Delete >From: "Harold Hunt" >To: "cygx" >Subject: Development item: NumLock >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:25:24 -0400 > >For anyone looking for something to do: > >Take a look at how we are messing up the handling of NumLock. For a simple >test case, install the lesstif package via Cygwin's setup.exe, run mwm.exe >as your window manager, make sure NumLock is on, then try to move a MWM >managed window. The window won't budge. Turn NumLock off and the window >can move freely. > >It may be incorrect to treat NumLock as a 'modifier key', see >xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c/winGetKeyMappings (), but not >treating NumLock as a modifier key causes the NumLock key to have no effect >on whether the numerical keypad gives you numbers (NumLock on behavior) or >arrows (NumLock off behavior). I think that both states of NumLock give >you >arrows in that case. > >For clues you can take a look at other servers, such as XDarwin over in >xc/programs/Xserver/hw/darwin/darwinKeyboard.c. Notice that they use >modifier masks LockMask (CapsLock), ShiftMask, ControlMask, AltMask, >MetaMask and FunctionMask. But they don't use NumLockMask. > >What gives? Is NumLock a modifier key or not? If not, why doesn't it do >anything in Cygwin/XFree86 when we don't treat it as a modifier? > >Hopefully that provides enough food for thought. > >Good luck, > >Harold _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 20 00:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:44:00 -0000 Subject: XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <200206191831.g5JIV8A138662@pilot23.cl.msu.edu> Lionel, It sounds like you'v got the bug where XWin.exe would launch but would fail to show it's Window sometimes. Have you updated the XFree86-xserv package via Cygwin's setup.exe within the last week? Upgrade to 4.2.0-5 and if that doesn't work, try the 4.2.0-6 version that is marked as test (so you'll have to manually select it by clicking the version in setup.exe for XFree86-xserv.) Reply to the mailing list with your results, Harold Lionel Ains said: > Hi, > > As you mentionned in your reply, set -x doesn't show whether > children processes are started as background tasks or not. > In the script I run, XWin.exe and twm are both started as > background tasks. I actually get the same result when I do > it on the command-line. > > What is really strange is that this does not happen all the > times. Around 10% of the times I tried to start XWin, I > could get it to work. When I manage to have it working once, > it will always work the next times (until I reboot). > Moreover, once it fails, if I try later on, I can sometimes > get it to start. > I've tried using Exceed on another machine and this works > fine, but cannot Exceed it on my PC, so I need XWin. > > It started successfully this morning, so I can use XWin for > the rest of the day... > > When XWin.exe doesn't start properly, it just stays on the > list of tasks (although it doesn't seem to use any CPU > time), and I can't kill it using CygWin's kill -9, I have to > End task using WinNT task mamanger. > > Thanks, > > Lionel > > > -------Message d'origine------- > > De : Romulus > > Date : 15/06/102 01:14:46 > > > You need to put things in the background with &'s. Mainly > xwin.exe and > > twm. Otherwise when the script starts XWin it will wait > for Xwin to > > finish before continuing on. Which is just as you > described it. > > > (At least I think that's what's happening... I don't > recall if set -x > > displays things like &'s. Seeing the actual script, and > not its output > > when -x is set in the shell, would make me more certain.) > > > Open a cygwin shell window and try just 'xwin.exe &' , > then 'twm &' , > > then see if twm menus activate in the xwin window. > > > Kdt > > > --- Lionel Ains wrote: > > > I'm getting difficulties to start an X server on CygWin > > > under WinNT. > > > I've installed XFree86 using the standard setup.exe > installer. > > > > > Here is what I'm getting when I launch startxwin.sh > > > > > ~$ startxwin.sh > > > + export DISPLAY=LAINS-1:0.0 > > > + > > > + rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix > > > + XWin > > > + twm > > > + xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 > > > > > The process XWin seems to hang and, of course, when > I kill > > > it, startx returns. > > > > > + xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow > -bg black > > > -e /usr/bin/bash > > > + exit > > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > > > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > > remaining. > > > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X > > > server "LAINS-1:0.0" > > > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events > > > remaining. > > > > > Is there anything wrong with my config? Any log file I > > > should check? > > > After several failures, I could manage to start XWin only > > > once (running XWin.exe directly also), but I can't get it to > > > work again, now that I have rebooted Windows. > _________________________________________________________ > Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis > http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ > > From mark.hackmann@philips.com Thu Jun 20 06:05:00 2002 From: mark.hackmann@philips.com (mark.hackmann@philips.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:05:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: Message-ID: Harold, You are exactly correct. I did indeed install, then delete the thing on the C: drive, and neglected to remove the keys from the registry, figuring they'd be overwritten {sheepish embarrassment}. I changed the one that said "C:" on the front, and rebooted. Now all works as expected. Thanks, -Mark Harold L Hunt cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: 06/19/02 10:36 Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree86 installation on D: AM Classification: Mark, I know exactly what happened. You had Cygwin/XFree86 installed on the C drive. Then you removed it by deleting it. (Which left a registry key for Cygwin's mounts either under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Cygnus Solutions/Cygwin/mounts v2/'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts' or under the same key for HKEY_CURRENT_USER. This key points to c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts.) You then reinstalled Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe but pointed it to the d: drive this time. Cygwin's setup.exe was smart enough to correct the mounts for the standard mounts, but it does nothing for other mounts, such as for the fonts directory. We basically need a pre-install script for the fonts package that always unmounts the fonts mount and remounts it to the current Cygwin installation. Then we are ensured that we will intall the fonts on the correct drive or path. I'm not sure if there is such pre-install script handling. Your workaround follows: Open up regedit.exe or regedt32.exe and proceed to the registry keys mentioned above. Edit the fonts mount key and change the drive letter to 'd'. That should do it. You've already moved the fonts to the d drive, so they should be in the right place. Alternatively you can fix this by doing an `unmount' and a `mount', but I don't remember the parameters well enough to tell you exactly what to run... perhaps someone else will give you a quick example. Harold mark.hackmann@philips.com said: > All, > > I'm new to this, but I spent some time looking through the instructions, web pages and archives for this problem, and couldn't find it. My apologies if I missed it. > > I installed a complete Cygwin and XFree86 on my Windows NT box in standard fashion, with the exception of pointing everything to the D: drive (a partition of the physical drive). This worked swimmingly, and came up with no trouble. However, I noticed a > Cygwin subtree on the C: drive that was pretty sparse, having nothing in it until you get down to C:\Cygwin\usr\X11r6\lib\X11\fonts, where there are lots of subdirectories. > > Hmmm, says I. Is this necessary? > > So, I moved it to the D: drive in the same place, where, incidentally, there was nothing, and lo and behold, XFree86 is now broken! Here's the log file: > > ============================================== > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b 742 t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 > winRandRInit () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit () - returning > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > ============================================= > > Sure enough, the font paths are not qualified with a drive letter. When I copy the stuff back to the C: drive, everything is hunky-dorry. > > Anyone seen this before, or know what I should do? Maybe it's a bug in setup? > > Thanks, > > -Mark > > From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 20 06:07:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: Crash under low memory Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A421@ldnisp14.evolution.net> I've just been playing with some samples in java on my Win2k laptop. XFree86 with a couple of rvxt's open was running in the background. The java process ate up all the memory on the machine and I got the windows "You system is running low on memory" dialog box appearing. After short while after I cleared that, both XFree86 and the rvxt's in it core dumped. The XWin.exe.stackdump file gives ... Stack trace: Frame Function Args 0022ECC4 77E83B5B (00000000, 00050000, 0022F344, 6105A669) 0022ED14 6105A99E (00000000, 103FD540, 0022ED84, 0042D132) 0022ED54 61058105 (00000324, 00000006, 0022F75C, 00000000) 0022ED94 61058342 (00000324, 00000006, 0022EDF4, 61058789) 0022EDB4 610581CA (00000006, 00000000, 0022EDF4, 61058754) 0022EDF4 6105879F (00000404, 00000102, 0022EE14, 61098CF1) 0022EE04 61098CE3 (00000000, 0000011E, 0022F484, 61098F03) 0022EE14 61098CF1 (610F6238, 0000011E, 0022F75C, 0022F588) 0022F484 61098F03 (00000000, 0000011E, 0022F75C, 00000000) 0022F5A4 61098505 (00003028, 00000001, 0022F6E4, 61098426) 0022F5E4 61055E59 (10407858, 0022F854, 0022F634, 00000003) 0022F734 610531A9 (0022F854, 0022F79C, 0022F77C, 0022F75C) 0022F8F4 61052C0F (000000FF, 0070941C, 0022F7DC, 0022F7BC) 0022F9F4 0042ED0A (0022FA0C, 00000008, 0022FE24, 004072D6) 0022FE24 0040720C (00000004, 610A0368, 00000000, 10020000) 0022FE54 0040199D (00000009, 10031908, 10030278, 00000000) End of stack trace (more stack frames may be present) cygwin1.dll is loaded at base address 0x61000000, kernel32.dll is loaded at base address 0x77e80000 and XWin.exe has base address 0x00400000. I'm guessing that something isn't checking that it actually got allocated memory. Is this a known bug in either cygwin or XFree86? Stuart (time to recompile with -g and see if I can get some more info) From tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz Thu Jun 20 06:29:00 2002 From: tim.thomson@paradise.net.nz (Tim Thomson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:29:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree In-Reply-To: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> References: <20020619091940.32281.qmail@webmails.com> Message-ID: <1024525926.1732.52.camel@tuxedo> On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 22:19, frederic bregier wrote: > The very last thing I need to do is something like the Ex...d manager > that > allows us to have a window with our usual servers to address. > I make it for the moment using a shell script. > I saw someone (Tim Thomson) that has done a graphical interface of such > > tool ("a delphi app, which runs the XWin binary > with some options you can set on a preferences screen"). > If someone gets the source or has something relative, of course > I am interested. I will put the source up for download this weekend sometime. I'll also modify the program to work with a stock cygwin-xfree install (just needs to look in the correct registry keys), and fix a few other bugs. I have an exam tomorrow and Saturday so am pushed for time at the moment :) There are no other similar programs currently to this? Cheers, Tim. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 20 10:10:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:10:00 -0000 Subject: Crash under low memory In-Reply-To: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A421@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Message-ID: Stuart, > I've just been playing with some samples in java on my Win2k laptop. > XFree86 with a couple of rvxt's open was running in the background. > > The java process ate up all the memory on the machine and I got the > windows "You system is running low on memory" dialog box appearing. > After short while after I cleared that, both XFree86 and the rvxt's > in it core dumped. I've never seen this problem myself, but I don't doubt that it could occur. There could very well be a mistake in the handling of an out-of-memory condition in the Cygwin portion of XFree86 (hw/xwin). However, XFree86 as a whole might have been written from the standpoint that if the main graphics app runs out of memory then the whole system is going down anyway. In other words, you'll find out from your debug whether or not the crash is in a portion of the code that we have any control over. It could be that the crash could occur in several places that we aren't responsible for so it may become too daunting of a task to fix. I think its definitely worth looking into to at least find out where the crash occurs. Let me know when you find out. > The XWin.exe.stackdump file gives ... > > Stack trace: I may seem like I know my stuff about programming, but I've never bother to learn stack dump voodoo. I'll add that to my list of things to look into someday. :) Harold From fbregier@webmails.com Thu Jun 20 10:23:00 2002 From: fbregier@webmails.com (frederic bregier) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:23:00 -0000 Subject: Error with Java program with XFree Message-ID: <20020620074447.13528.qmail@webmails.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From marzullo@la-defense.oilfield.slb.com Thu Jun 20 10:31:00 2002 From: marzullo@la-defense.oilfield.slb.com (Laurent Marzullo) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:31:00 -0000 Subject: Alt GR/XFree86/Cygwin Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020620150512.00abb8f0@pop.la-defense.oilfield.slb.com> Hello, I use a Belgian Keyboard. And I would like to be able to use key that could only be obtain when pressing 'Alt_R' key. Could someone tell me how to do so with XFree86/Cygwin. For now, I'm not able to use pipe, at sign, bracket etc. I've search on google, saw something telling that Windows send CTRL_L and another key but nothing about how to get around this problem. Could any one help me please ?? mailto:laurent.marzullo@laposte.net Thank you very much From andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com Thu Jun 20 10:49:00 2002 From: andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com (Okerholm, Andrea M.) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:49:00 -0000 Subject: Where is XWin? Message-ID: <111580DB630FD211BE0900A0C9D722DF01482EBE@xcgpa001.pa.essd.northgrum.com> I installed cygwin, with all of the packages. Yet I do not have XWin.exe on my system! Thanks Andrea From andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com Thu Jun 20 13:36:00 2002 From: andrea_m_okerholm@md.northgrum.com (Okerholm, Andrea M.) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:36:00 -0000 Subject: Where is XWin? Message-ID: <111580DB630FD211BE0900A0C9D722DF01482EC0@xcgpa001.pa.essd.northgrum.com> Never mind, reinstalling xserv did the trick. > -----Original Message----- > From: Okerholm, Andrea M. > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:07 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Where is XWin? > > I installed cygwin, with all of the packages. > Yet I do not have XWin.exe on my system! > > Thanks > Andrea From romulusnr@yahoo.com Thu Jun 20 14:31:00 2002 From: romulusnr@yahoo.com (Romulus) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:31:00 -0000 Subject: Alt GR/XFree86/Cygwin In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020620150512.00abb8f0@pop.la-defense.oilfield.slb.com> Message-ID: <20020620171041.21123.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> --- Laurent Marzullo wrote: > Hello, > > I use a Belgian Keyboard. And I would like to be able to use > key that could only be obtain when pressing 'Alt_R' key. Well, Thomas C. introduced me to xmodmap the other day to solve my NumLock problem, so I thought that might help you too. I did this: xmodmap -e "clear mod1" -e "clear mod4" -e "add mod1 = Alt_L" -e "add mod4 = Alt_R" which makes Alt_R a different modifier than Alt_L. You'll have to read your WM or app documentation to determine how to set bindings to mod4. In fvwm2 I tested it like this: # Alt_L + 4 will open Banner, Alt_R + 7 will open WinList Key KP_7 A 4 FvwmWinList Key KP_4 A M FvwmBanner Unfortunately there are lots of comments out there that say you should not assume that mod1=meta, as I do above. (Of course I could also use '1' instead of 'M' in the example above to avoid that.) If your app doesn't let you bind to mod1-5 combinations, I dunno how to solve that. HTH, Kdt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From quaestor@bellsouth.net Thu Jun 20 15:43:00 2002 From: quaestor@bellsouth.net (Ben Alkov) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER extension in Server test 59 Message-ID: <3D120EDC.3040107@bellsouth.net> Or rather, "RENDER extension NOT in Server test 59". Running an xterm with -fa -fs options (worked previously) causes X to complain about RENDER extension not available. I guess I'm the only one using anti-aliased fonts *grin*. xdpyinfo, likewise, shows no RENDER extension. Server Test 58 works fine. P.S. Immense thanks to all the Cygwin team, and the many people responsible for bringing free (stable, working: Exceed - *puke*) X to MS Windows at long last. I don't exaggerate when I say it's a bit of a dream come true... Also, specific kudos for the recent mousewheel fix for cygwin setup, and the -nodecorations switch for X. Keep up the good work! From lains@caramail.com Thu Jun 20 20:20:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: Re[1] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024594305019660@caramail.com> Hi Harold, I've upgraded to 4.2.0-5, and then 4.2.0-6 without success. XWin.exe remains frozen and its window doesn't appear on the screen. It will probably work from time to time, though, as 4.2.0-4 did. It looks like Iam the only one to experience this issue. I'll try and find out what is the trigger that finally makes XWin.exe work when I restart it after some time. Lionel > -------Message d'origine------- > De : Harold L Hunt > Date : 19/06/102 20:31:16 > > Lionel, > > It sounds like you'v got the bug where XWin.exe would launch but would fail to > show it's Window sometimes. > > Have you updated the XFree86-xserv package via Cygwin's setup.exe within the > last week? Upgrade to 4.2.0-5 and if that doesn't work, try the 4.2.0-6 > version that is marked as test (so you'll have to manually select it by > clicking the version in setup.exe for XFree86-xserv.) > > Reply to the mailing list with your results, > > Harold ______________________________________________________ Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 20 21:41:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:41:00 -0000 Subject: Re[1] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A426@ldnisp14.evolution.net> Does anything appear in /tmp/XWin.log ? > I've upgraded to 4.2.0-5, and then 4.2.0-6 without success. > XWin.exe remains frozen and its window doesn't appear on > the screen. It will probably work from time to time, > though, as 4.2.0-4 did. > From robert.collins@syncretize.net Fri Jun 21 03:57:00 2002 From: robert.collins@syncretize.net (Robert Collins) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:57:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER extension in Server test 59 In-Reply-To: <3D120EDC.3040107@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <004d01c2189a$21c84b40$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Ben Alkov > Sent: Friday, 21 June 2002 3:20 AM > Also, specific kudos for the recent mousewheel fix for cygwin > setup We fixed it? Ah, mmm, ok!. Thanks for the feedback. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 04:12:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER extension in Server test 59 Message-ID: <200206202131.g5KLVHw101008@pilot17.cl.msu.edu> Ben, You're right. Looks like I made a mistake in rebuilding. I'll rebuild and release a Test 60 tonight, hopefully. Harold Ben Alkov said: > Or rather, "RENDER extension NOT in Server test 59". Running an xterm > with -fa -fs options (worked previously) causes X to complain about > RENDER extension not available. I guess I'm the only one using > anti-aliased fonts *grin*. xdpyinfo, likewise, shows no RENDER > extension. Server Test 58 works fine. > > P.S. > Immense thanks to all the Cygwin team, and the many people responsible > for bringing free (stable, working: Exceed - *puke*) X to MS Windows at > long last. I don't exaggerate when I say it's a bit of a dream come > true... Also, specific kudos for the recent mousewheel fix for cygwin > setup, and the -nodecorations switch for X. Keep up the good work! > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 04:19:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:19:00 -0000 Subject: RENDER - Bad news for KDE 3.0 icons Message-ID: My build check with RENDER re-enabled was inaccurate. For some reason RENDER did not get built into the server. I thought I had tested the server with RENDER re-enabled but I hadn't. It turns out that RENDER is the culprit here. Now we get to go bug hunting. Any takers? Harold From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Jun 21 05:24:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... Message-ID: First, an apology. This is not, strictly speaking, a Cygwin/Xfree question. I know it's possible to span a single X desktop (for lack of a better term) across multiple display adapters residing in the same machine. Basically the 2 attached monitors behavior as the left and right halves of single, unified root window. What I'm trying to find out is if it's possible to span a single X desktop across 2 display adapters, each residing on a different machine? If so, what would it take to get this set up? I guess it comes down to whether the "spanning" function is something handled completely by the X server, or if it's implemented by the Window Manager or some other piece of "middle ware". _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From tim@tui.dhs.org Fri Jun 21 07:34:00 2002 From: tim@tui.dhs.org (Tim Thomson) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:34:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1024634488.796.6.camel@tuxedo> Hi there, I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support this? Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where it originated. Hope this helps, Tim. On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 15:20, Thomas Chadwick wrote: > First, an apology. This is not, strictly speaking, a Cygwin/Xfree question. > > I know it's possible to span a single X desktop (for lack of a better term) > across multiple display adapters residing in the same machine. Basically > the 2 attached monitors behavior as the left and right halves of single, > unified root window. > > What I'm trying to find out is if it's possible to span a single X desktop > across 2 display adapters, each residing on a different machine? If so, > what would it take to get this set up? > > I guess it comes down to whether the "spanning" function is something > handled completely by the X server, or if it's implemented by the Window > Manager or some other piece of "middle ware". > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > From lains@caramail.com Fri Jun 21 07:57:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:57:00 -0000 Subject: Re[2] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024657037011046@caramail.com> Here is the content of /tmp/XWin.log: winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 >From: Stuart Adamson > >Does anything appear in /tmp/XWin.log ? _________________________________________________________ Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ From lains@caramail.com Fri Jun 21 08:45:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:45:00 -0000 Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024657928006233@caramail.com> Today, I started alright at the first attempt. The content of /tmp/XWin.log is: winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning ______________________________________________________ Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 21 10:47:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:47:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... In-Reply-To: <1024634488.796.6.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <20020621111947.67764.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> --- Tim Thomson wrote: > Hi there, > > I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to > support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support this? > > Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: > http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html > > There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where it > originated. Tim, It was designed by DEC (Digital) back in '97 and can still be found at: ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/SRC/x2x/ Dunno if it still works, but it's worth a try ;-). Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 21 12:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:02:00 -0000 Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start In-Reply-To: <1024657928006233@caramail.com> Message-ID: Lionel, Is there any particular reason why you're using the Shadow DirectDraw engine instead of the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine? Are you passing a `-engine 2' parameter? You're platform, NT/2000, should allow you to use ShadowDDNL if you have NT 4.0 SP3+. What's going on here? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lionel Ains > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:12 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start > > > Today, I started alright at the first attempt. The content > of /tmp/XWin.log is: > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines > 0000001b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth > of 32 bits per pixel > > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h > 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 > t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff > BPRGB 8 d 32 > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit () - returning > ______________________________________________________ > Bo??te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com > > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Jun 21 15:16:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:16:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... Message-ID: Thank you, thank you, thank you! Grabbed the src from DEC, built it in a jiffy, and voila! It is EXACTLY what I was looking for. FYI - I did some additional poking around and found this, which describes making x2x more secure: http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/x2x.html >From: Nicholas Wourms >To: Tim Thomson , cygwin-xfree Mailing List > >Subject: Re: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:19:47 -0700 (PDT) > >--- Tim Thomson wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to > > support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support this? > > > > Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: > > http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html > > > > There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where it > > originated. >Tim, > >It was designed by DEC (Digital) back in '97 and can still be found at: >ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/SRC/x2x/ > >Dunno if it still works, but it's worth a try ;-). > >Cheers, >Nicholas > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 21 22:31:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:31:00 -0000 Subject: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020621154533.56549.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Thomas, You are very welcome! Now that we've helped you, perhaps you want to volunteer to submit and maintain this as a package for the main distribution of Cygwin? It's real easy, just follow the instructions at: http://cygwin.com/setup.html When you're ready, just submit the information to this list rather than cygwin-apps. If you have any questions about packaging, feel free to ask. Cheers, Nicholas --- Thomas Chadwick wrote: > Thank you, thank you, thank you! Grabbed the src from DEC, built it in > a > jiffy, and voila! It is EXACTLY what I was looking for. FYI - I did > some > additional poking around and found this, which describes making x2x more > > secure: > > http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/x2x.html > > >From: Nicholas Wourms > >To: Tim Thomson , cygwin-xfree Mailing List > > > >Subject: Re: Spanning desktop across multiple X servers... > >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:19:47 -0700 (PDT) > > > >--- Tim Thomson wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I think x2x is what you are after. Looks like the xservers need to > > > support the XTEST extension. Does the cygwin-xfree server support > this? > > > > > > Not sure where you'd find it, there is a description here: > > > http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x.html > > > > > > There are packages of this for other systems, but I'm not sure where > it > > > originated. > >Tim, > > > >It was designed by DEC (Digital) back in '97 and can still be found at: > >ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/SRC/x2x/ > > > >Dunno if it still works, but it's worth a try ;-). > > > >Cheers, > >Nicholas > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nickthompson@agere.com Fri Jun 21 22:31:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:31:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K Message-ID: <1024671428.6742.103.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Hi, I have used cygwin/XF86 4.1.0 on Win95/98 for sometime and it works fine, but on Win2k machines the server starts and I can make local connections, but remote connections just cause a AUDIT messages on the cygwin console: AUDIT: Fri Jun 21 14:18:57 2002: 1040 XWin.exe: client 1 rejected from IP xxx.xx.xx.xxx port 35658 'xhost +' seems to take a long time and has no effect. Trying indirect XDMCP with another remote machine logs the following on the remote: Xlib: connection to "myhost:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Error: Can't open display: myhost:0 'ping myhost' says the machine is alive the name seems resolveable from the IP address of the machine. Any idea what could be wrong? Thanks, Nick. From jnie@jhu.edu Fri Jun 21 22:34:00 2002 From: jnie@jhu.edu (Jinsuo Nie) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:34:00 -0000 Subject: No color GUI for Xfig Message-ID: <008801c2194c$14d27160$668acf82@PAPYRUS> Hi, all, I installed Xfig 3.2.3d on Xfree86/Cygwin. It works fine except that no color interface at all. How can I got the color interface. If I use Star Xwin32, it shows the color GUI. But I prefer Xfree86 since it has no time limit. Thanks Jinsuo From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Jun 21 22:38:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:38:00 -0000 Subject: Proposed new package: x2x Message-ID: Since the x2x thing built so easily, I figured I try to package it for the Cygwin setup. Here's the setup.hint: @ x2x sdesc: "Combines 2 independent X sessions into a single, multi-headed X session." ldesc: "Combines 2 independent X sessions into a single, multi-headed X session. Each X session can be running on a different machine, can have different resolutions, color depths, and even different window managers." category: XFree86 requires: cygwin XFree86-xserv XFree86-base Question about the setup.hint file. Should it be in Unix text format (NEWLINE=CR) or Windows text format (NEWLINE=CR+LF). Does it matter? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 22 05:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: Proposed new package: x2x In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unix text format. Example setup.hint attached. You need to create the actual package now: http://cygwin.com/setup.html Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:03 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Proposed new package: x2x > > > Since the x2x thing built so easily, I figured I try to package > it for the > Cygwin setup. 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You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). xwinclip binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test06.exe.bz2 (6 KB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020622-0007.tar.bz2 (10 KB) Changes: 1) xevents.c, xevents.h, xwinclip.c - Add real support for COMPOUND_TEXT, TARGETS, and UTF8_STRING selection types. Grab clipboard contents in Unicode, if supported, convert to multi-byte character set, then stick the result into the appropriate target. This allows Japanese text to be transferred via xwinclip. Other eastern languages (Korean, Chinese, etc.) may also work. (Matsuzaki Kensuke) 2) xwinclip.c - Add a UnicodeSupport function to check if we have Unicode support or not. Currently this is done by just checking if we are on an NT-based platform or not. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Jun 22 16:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 16:22:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 60 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 60 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 60 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'curr' package: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 (Note: Test 60 is the new stable release.) Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test60.exe.bz2 (1070 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020622-0007.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold Hunt) 2) wincreatwnd.c - Remove a seemingly erroneous return from winCreateBoundingWindowFullScreen when we are using the Shadow GDI engine. This return was before we called UpdateWindow and BringWindowToTop. This seems to have snuck in at some point during merging of my local 4.2.0 and main trees. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 23 11:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:44:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. This is a synchronization with all the fixes that have been applied through Server Test Series - Test 60. These fixes are listed below: 1) InitOutput.c, XWin.man, win.h, winwndproc.c - Add the -lesspointer command line parameter which causes Cygwin/XFree86 to hide the Windows mouse cursor when the mouse is over any Cygwin/XFree86 window (whether activated or not). (Stuart Adamson) 2) win.h, xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf - Stop building RANDR and disable Cygwin/XFree86's LAYER support. These two extensions were causing KDE 3.0 icons with alpha channels to not display. RENDER is still enabled. (Harold Hunt) 3) xc/programs/Xserver/os/osinit.c - Don't close the stdin, stdout, stderr file handles on Cygwin. We are no longer a command-line application so stdin, stdout, and stderr point to our first three file handles, rather than to their usual locations. This keeps the log file from being closed when you run XWin.exe with 'start XWin.exe'. (Stuart Adamson) 4) winwndproc.c - Call TrackMouseEvent to setup tracking for the WM_MOUSELEAVE message. When we see a WM_MOUSELEAVE message we show the cursor if we are hiding it. This will prevent cursors from disappearing when using the -lesspointer parameter. (Harold Hunt) 5) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold Hunt) 6) wincreatwnd.c - Remove a seemingly erroneous return from winCreateBoundingWindowFullScreen when we are using the Shadow GDI engine. This return was before we called UpdateWindow and BringWindowToTop. This seems to have snuck in at some point during merging of my local 4.2.0 and main trees. (Harold Hunt) -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 23 17:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:18:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 06 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows clipboard integration) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This one needs a thorough testing, it may or may not be stable. I'm not fully aware of how all the new function calls operator, so I was unable to convince myself that everything is being done correctly. Sometime in the next two months I'll do what I always do, which is to get out my X books and read the source code until I understand it again. At that point I'll correct some of the "what are we doing here?" comments and try to make the code easily understandable and modifiable. Until then, test away, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:31 AM > To: cygx; cygxannounce > Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 06 (Cygwin/XFree86 and Windows > clipboard integration) > > > Links: > > I just posted Test 06 to the xwinclip development page: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/ > > xwinclip binary and source code releases are available via the > sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network > (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the > pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/ directory. You may wish to note the > desired filename in the links below, then download from your > closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). > > xwinclip binary, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-Test06.exe.bz2 (6 KB) > > Server source, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/xwinclip/xwinclip-20020622-0007.tar.bz2 > (10 > KB) > > > Changes: > > 1) xevents.c, xevents.h, xwinclip.c - Add real support for > COMPOUND_TEXT, TARGETS, and UTF8_STRING selection types. Grab > clipboard contents in Unicode, if supported, convert to multi-byte > character set, then stick the result into the appropriate target. > This allows Japanese text to be transferred via xwinclip. Other > eastern languages (Korean, Chinese, etc.) may also work. (Matsuzaki > Kensuke) > > 2) xwinclip.c - Add a UnicodeSupport function to check if we have > Unicode support or not. Currently this is done by just checking if we > are on an NT-based platform or not. (Harold Hunt) > > > Enjoy, > > Harold > From nwourms@yahoo.com Sun Jun 23 19:14:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 19:14:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] xwinclip Test 06 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020622123604.25753.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> > 2) xwinclip.c - Add a UnicodeSupport function to check if we have > Unicode support or not. Currently this is done by just checking if we > are on an NT-based platform or not. (Harold Hunt) > Harold, I found this on MSDN, and wonder if it might be of use for Unicode support on 95/98/ME for Xwinclip. The API for this layer is described at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win9x/unilayer_4wj7.asp The actual redistributable can be downloaded at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=30039 The actual lib is is in the platform SDK. Any thoughts on this? Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Jun 23 23:25:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:25:00 -0000 Subject: test 60 did not fix the kde 3.0 icon problem for me In-Reply-To: <000001c21a1e$21872040$070210ac@LAPDANCE> Message-ID: Barry, > I have just upgrade my FreeBSD system to 4.6 that includes KDE 3.0. > I use cygwin to XDCMP from a WIndows XP system to the FreeBSD system. > > The icons on the desktop do not appear. I saw your change log for test 60 > and installed it on a Windows XP system. But this did not fix the > problem. Is there something more I need to do, or information I > can collect > to help fix the problem? First things first: you've got to reply to the cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com mailing list, not to me directly. That being said, you need to re-read the change log for Test 60. I've posted it below for your convenience: ====================================================================== 1) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold Hunt) ====================================================================== Let me recap. 1) RENDER was disabled in Test 58. 2) I *thought* RENDER was reenabled in Test 59 but, due to a mistake on my part, the build did not actually include RENDER. 3) Test 59 fixed the KDE 3.0 icon problem, but it did not actually have RENDER included, so you couldn't use aa fonts. 4) Test 60 really reenabled the RENDER extension. The RENDER extension is causing the KDE 3.0 icon problem. 5) You expected Test 60 to fix the KDE 3.0 icon problem? Harold From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Jun 24 04:09:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 04:09:00 -0000 Subject: test 60 did not fix the kde 3.0 icon problem for me In-Reply-To: References: <000001c21a1e$21872040$070210ac@LAPDANCE> Message-ID: <20020622232211.GB2448@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 06:37:26 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > 1) Do a clean before rebuilding the server to ensure that the RENDER > extension is compiled in and enabled. The RENDER extension is now > reenabled. Unfortunately, the RENDER extension is the cause of the > display problem with KDE 3.0 icons that have alpha channels at a depth > of 32 bits per pixel. It was previously thought that the LAYER and > RANDR extensions were causing the problem because a rebuild of the > server with RENDER enabled did not actually have RENDER enabled, thus > making it seem that RENDER was not causing the problem. (Harold > Hunt) Harold, When this happens, can you tell me what dwBPP and dwDepth are set to ? Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 24 06:37:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 06:37:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: <1024671428.6742.103.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Message-ID: On 21 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > 'xhost +' seems to take a long time and has no effect. Trying indirect > XDMCP with another remote machine logs the following on the remote: Wgat do you mean with "indirect XDMCP"? Did you start the server with XWin -indirect login.server.name? > Xlib: connection to "myhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: myhost:0 The server wants the correct cookie which was set via XDMCP. On the X-Terminal the cookie should be set. try "xauth list $DISPLAY" On any other machine you have to set it manually via "xauth add" or use ssh -X to pass the cookie to the remote machine. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From jehan@bravobrava.com Mon Jun 24 07:36:00 2002 From: jehan@bravobrava.com (Jehan Bing) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:36:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCH] systray icon Message-ID: <3D166531.4030501@bravobrava.com> Hello everybody, Here is another patch which adds the "-systray" option. With this option on, instead of adding buttons to the taskbar, it adds icons to the notification area (a.k.a. systray). To work, there must be a "X.ico" (see attachment) in the same directory than XWin.exe Left click on the icon shows the window if it was hidden, hide it otherwise. Right click displays the system menu (there isn't one in fullscreen) Notes: - I added a file (winsystray.c) so "make depend" is in order. - The patch also changes the title to include the screen number. To get the screen number, I'm searching the g_ScreenInfo array. I'm sure there must be a better way to get this number (search for "HACK", there are 3 places). - The option doesn't work well in fullscreen mode. For some reason, when one click on the systray icon, the application isn't activated (doesn't switch to fullscreen, no WM_ACTIVATEAPP received) but the application still captures the mouse event, it's as if the desktop doesn't respond anymore. For those who try and/or want to fix it (I don't have the beginning of an idea for that so help is welcome), to recover from the "freeze", open the start menu with the "Windows" key, then click outside the menu. - I fixed a couple typos (CYGDEGUG and missing '\n' for "-lesspointer" usage) - X.ico would be better off added as a resource to the application instead of an external file (or both if we want to allow customization). Can we do that with cygwin? - An improvment would be to add the screen number to the icon itself. It would be better than waiting for the tooltip. - I would like to change the left click behavior. I want it to put the window to the foreground if it was not (hidden behind another window), hide it otherwise. However, when one click on the systray, the systray become the foreground window. Does someone know how to get the handle of the previous foreground window? Jehan -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jehan Bing > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 8:18 PM > To: Cygwin XFree > Subject: [PATCH] systray icon > > > Hello everybody, > > Here is another patch which adds the "-systray" option. With this option > on, instead of adding buttons to the taskbar, it adds icons to the > notification area (a.k.a. systray). > To work, there must be a "X.ico" (see attachment) in the same directory > than XWin.exe > > Left click on the icon shows the window if it was hidden, hide it > otherwise. > Right click displays the system menu (there isn't one in fullscreen) > > Notes: > - I added a file (winsystray.c) so "make depend" is in order. > - The patch also changes the title to include the screen number. To > get the screen number, I'm searching the g_ScreenInfo array. I'm sure > there must be a better way to get this number (search for "HACK", there > are 3 places). > - The option doesn't work well in fullscreen mode. For some reason, > when one click on the systray icon, the application isn't activated > (doesn't switch to fullscreen, no WM_ACTIVATEAPP received) but the > application still captures the mouse event, it's as if the desktop > doesn't respond anymore. For those who try and/or want to fix it (I > don't have the beginning of an idea for that so help is welcome), to > recover from the "freeze", open the start menu with the "Windows" key, > then click outside the menu. > - I fixed a couple typos (CYGDEGUG and missing '\n' for > "-lesspointer" usage) > - X.ico would be better off added as a resource to the application > instead of an external file (or both if we want to allow customization). > Can we do that with cygwin? > - An improvment would be to add the screen number to the icon > itself. It would be better than waiting for the tooltip. > - I would like to change the left click behavior. I want it to put > the window to the foreground if it was not (hidden behind another > window), hide it otherwise. However, when one click on the systray, the > systray become the foreground window. Does someone know how to get the > handle of the previous foreground window? > > Jehan > From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de Mon Jun 24 09:06:00 2002 From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:06:00 -0000 Subject: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start References: Message-ID: <3D16BB62.6090108@visicon-online.de> Hi Harold. That is funny - although my machines both start, these are the log entries from my NT4 (SP6) and my Win98 machine. The NT one uses ShadowDD, the Win98 machine uses ShadowDDNL! Both machines use the "standard" startx script. The only thing I changed is -fullscreen. Logs follow. Regards, Uwe --------------------------------------------------------- NT4-Log: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1600 h 1200 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowDD () - Not changing video mode winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning --------------------------------------------------------- Win98-Log: ---------- ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2048 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning --------------------------------------------------------- Harold Hunt wrote: > Lionel, > > Is there any particular reason why you're using the Shadow DirectDraw engine > instead of the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine? Are you passing a > `-engine 2' parameter? > > You're platform, NT/2000, should allow you to use ShadowDDNL if you have NT > 4.0 SP3+. > > What's going on here? > > Harold > From sb@dod.no Mon Jun 24 09:09:00 2002 From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:09:00 -0000 Subject: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only References: <001901c2145d$83bef880$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <200206160030.35183.rasjidw@openminddev.net> <1024187301.797.53.camel@tuxedo> Message-ID: <87lm959bmc.fsf@home.lan> >>>>> Tim Thomson : > On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 02:30, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >> Strangely enough, I was planning to start work on project again >> this month, and perhaps even this weekend, with my first step being >> to do the script to configure XDMCP access on a 'standard' linux >> distribution. > Hehe, finding a "standard" linux distrib could be fun :) "Typical" might be a better term. I know from experience that both RedHat 7.2, and debian Woody/Testing, comes with XDMCP against remote machines turned off. > Do you mean a script to enable an xdm type server for accepting > remote connections? This would be a great idea! Yup. :-) > Kind of tricky though, with xdm, kdm, and gdm all doing this, but > using different locations, and ach distribution probably puts the > config files in different locations as well :) Yup. :-/ From lains@caramail.com Mon Jun 24 09:51:00 2002 From: lains@caramail.com (Lionel Ains) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:51:00 -0000 Subject: Re[4] XWin.exe doesn't start Message-ID: <1024925824012736@caramail.com> Hi, Like Uwe, I haven't added any extra parameter to XWin.exe (I suppose that's what you meant), I'm using either the standard startx or startxwin.sh, but I have tried to run XWin.exe directly from a shell as well, and this was without any parameter. To be honest, I'm not too familiar with Direct Draw. I'm running NT4.0 with SP5, but I have no idea why the installed Direct Draw on my machine is not the ShadowDDNL. Is there somewhere I could dowload this from, or is it part of WinNT's package and, somehow, the technical support in my company would install the Shadow DirectDraw engine on corporate machines. Do you know how I can find out more about the setup for my machine as far as DD is concerned, and how to install a different engine if needed? Many thanks for your help, Lionel From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Lionel Ains" Subject: RE: Re[3] XWin.exe doesn't start Lionel, Is there any particular reason why you're using the Shadow DirectDraw engine instead of the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine? Are you passing a `-engine 2' parameter? You're platform, NT/2000, should allow you to use ShadowDDNL if you have NT 4.0 SP3+. What's going on here? Harold ______________________________________________________ Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com From nickthompson@agere.com Mon Jun 24 10:04:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:04:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1024929414.6742.121.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Exactly. If I use -indirect I can't even make local connections to the X server - they just seem to hang. Becaue of this I can't do a 'xhost +' to allow connection from a remote process. So it seems I have to get the cookie correct. Unfortunately, your explaination lost me a little. Do I have to generate a cookie, or should a cookie have been sent as part of the XDMCP connection? Why would it work fine on Win95/98 and not Win2k? Seems to be and FAQ on Win2k this one, but I can't find an answer. Thanks, Nick. On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 17:57, Alexander Gottwald wrote: On 21 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > 'xhost +' seems to take a long time and has no effect. Trying indirect > XDMCP with another remote machine logs the following on the remote: Wgat do you mean with "indirect XDMCP"? Did you start the server with XWin -indirect login.server.name? > Xlib: connection to "myhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: myhost:0 The server wants the correct cookie which was set via XDMCP. On the X-Terminal the cookie should be set. try "xauth list $DISPLAY" On any other machine you have to set it manually via "xauth add" or use ssh -X to pass the cookie to the remote machine. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 24 10:10:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:10:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: <1024929414.6742.121.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Message-ID: On 24 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > Exactly. If I use -indirect I can't even make local connections to the X > server - they just seem to hang. This is the normal behaviour. After using xdmcp, you can only connect from the remote machine. >Becaue of this I can't do a 'xhost +' > to allow connection from a remote process. You can run xhost + from the remote session >So it seems I have to get the > cookie correct. Unfortunately, your explaination lost me a little. Do I > have to generate a cookie, The cookie is generated by xdm. After you logged into your linux, sunos, or whatever unix you use, you already have the cookie in the unix session. Try "xauth list $DISPLAY" from a shell in the unix session. To connect from the windows host, set the cookie: "xauth add " >or should a cookie have been sent as part of the XDMCP connection? it is created by xdm (the login manager) and only know on the remote machine and by your xserver. None of the local xclients know this cookie and can connect. >Why would it work fine on Win95/98 and not Win2k? There should be no difference between 9x and NT bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From nickthompson@agere.com Mon Jun 24 10:13:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:13:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1024934779.6742.152.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Hi Ago, Thanks for your help and sorry to bug you some more - I think I'm missing something here. I have a ~5 remote Sun Boxes on which I'd like to pick the least busy and run some X clients. I'm sitting at a Win2k box (mywinhost) on which I type 'Xwin.exe -indirect mysunhost'. The X server starts up on mywinhost and on mysunhost it attempts to run an xdm chooser to list the available suns that support XDMCP sessions. It fails to connect to my Win2k server to display this (Works fine if I try the same on Win98): Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 So I don't even get to choose a machine to login to. This make it difficult to get any information from the remote sun, especially X info for a display I have not connected to yet. I can't "generate" a key as I have to be connected to the X server to do that. I can "add" a made up key, but I assume I would have to be root to do that, since I've not been able to tell the Sun who I am yet. I want users to be able to do this without my help though. Seems to me that something is broken in my Win2k install as this works like a charm on 98. Did I already mention that ;-) Thanks again, Nick. On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 16:01, Alexander Gottwald wrote: On 24 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: >So it seems I have to get the > cookie correct. Unfortunately, your explaination lost me a little. Do I > have to generate a cookie, The cookie is generated by xdm. After you logged into your linux, sunos, or whatever unix you use, you already have the cookie in the unix session. Try "xauth list $DISPLAY" from a shell in the unix session. To connect from the windows host, set the cookie: "xauth add " >or should a cookie have been sent as part of the XDMCP connection? it is created by xdm (the login manager) and only know on the remote machine and by your xserver. None of the local xclients know this cookie and can connect. >Why would it work fine on Win95/98 and not Win2k? There should be no difference between 9x and NT From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 12:13:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:13:00 -0000 Subject: [New Package]: x2x-1.27-1 Message-ID: Announcing the first release of a new package to the Cygwin distribution: x2x. The usefulness of this utility will become apparent to anyone with a PC side-by-side with an *ix workstation. Simply bring up an XWindows session on each machine, run x2x on the PC, and use your PC's mouse and keyboard to control your *ix workstation's display. Works better and is cheaper than a KVM (Keyboard/Video/Mouse) switch. It also works much like a multi-headed X session. To install/update this package, point your favorite browser to the Cygwin homepage (http://cygwin.com/) and click the "Install Cygwin NOW" link. Once running setup, look for the "x2x" package in the "XFree86" section. Please direct any questions and/or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list (mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com). _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Jun 24 12:47:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:47:00 -0000 Subject: Re[4] XWin.exe doesn't start In-Reply-To: <1024925824012736@caramail.com> Message-ID: Lionel, > Like Uwe, I haven't added any extra parameter to XWin.exe > (I suppose that's what you meant), I'm using either the > standard startx or startxwin.sh, but I have tried to run > XWin.exe directly from a shell as well, and this was > without any parameter. Oops. I got confused. The decision about whether to use the Shadow DirectDraw Non-Locking engine versus the Shadow DirectDraw engine is based upon whether you have DirectDraw 4 or higher (which enables Non-Locking). If you have DirectDraw 3 or lower then you don't get Non-Locking. I got messed up and thought it depended upon whether you've got an NT-based platform or not. DirectX has stagnated at version 3 for NT 4.0, if I recall correctly (this version is installed with SP3, I believe). There were some rumblings, back before Windows 2000 was released, that a new version of DirectX would be included in SP6 or SP7, but SP6 didn't include a new version and I haven't heard any further information about SP7 (though I haven't looked for any such information). Hope that clears things up. Everything is normal on your end with respect to command line parameters. Harold From cygxforever@hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 12:49:00 2002 From: cygxforever@hotmail.com (CygX Forever) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:49:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 full screen mode exit Message-ID: Hi, My XWin.exe line reads: start /B XWin :0 -from TOSHI -query mylinux -depth 16 -fullscreen OK. So I press to see Windows' lower taskbar. But, how can I do a normal exit out of Cygwin/XFree86 without terminating Cygwin command prompt window? Thanks, EW _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 24 23:00:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:00:00 -0000 Subject: Can't remote connect to XF86 on Win2K In-Reply-To: <1024934779.6742.152.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Message-ID: On 24 Jun 2002, Nick THOMPSON wrote: > It fails > to connect to my Win2k server to display this (Works fine if I try the > same on Win98): please try "Xwin -indirect sunip -from windowsip" > Xlib: connection to "mywinhost:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Error: Can't open display: mywinhost:0 > > So I don't even get to choose a machine to login to. This make it > difficult to get any information from the remote sun, especially X info > for a display I have not connected to yet. does "Xwin -query sunip" work? > I can't "generate" a key as I have to be connected to the X server to do > that. I can "add" a made up key, but I assume I would have to be root to > do that, since I've not been able to tell the Sun who I am yet. I want > users to be able to do this without my help though. The thing with xauth list/add does only work after the xdm session has been created. You fail earlier :( > Seems to me that something is broken in my Win2k install as this works > like a charm on 98. Did I already mention that ;-) Hm, strange. This should not happen :( bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jun 24 23:11:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:11:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 full screen mode exit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, CygX Forever wrote: > Hi, > > My XWin.exe line reads: > > start /B XWin :0 -from TOSHI -query mylinux -depth 16 -fullscreen > > OK. So I press to see Windows' lower taskbar. But, > how can I do a normal exit out of Cygwin/XFree86 without terminating > Cygwin command prompt window? or with -unixkill: bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From hal_rottenberg@hp.com Tue Jun 25 01:42:00 2002 From: hal_rottenberg@hp.com (ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 01:42:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to work fine. I will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my startwin.bat file) then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run command, either nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit for any sort of logs but haven't found anything so far. The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: start /b XWin -unixkill run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash run wmaker What did I do wrong?? Hal Rottenberg | Email: hal_rottenberg@hp.com Technical Support Engineer | Jabber: hal_rottenberg@jabber.hp.com http://www.hp.com/security | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 HEWLETT-PACKARD From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Jun 25 02:59:00 2002 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:59:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020624194720.38507.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> what appears in /tmp/XWin.log ? --- "ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)" a ??crit??: > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps > seem to work fine. I > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open > (from my startwin.bat file) > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use > the run command, either > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked > around a bit for any sort > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very > simple: > > start /b XWin -unixkill > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow > -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > run wmaker > > What did I do wrong?? ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Jun 25 03:20:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 03:20:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: <200206241949.g5OJn4N45116@pilot06.cl.msu.edu> Hal, Why don't you try starting XWin without the '/B'. The '/B' is no longer necessary because XWin.exe should start as a Windows application, thus it should give the command line back immediately. Thus part of your problem might be that your xterm is starting too soon. Throw a 'sleep 5' in after your 'start XWin' line. As a further test, remove the 'run' from the 'run xterm' command line. That will allow xterm to dump any errors to the console (it will prevent wmaker from starting though). You could also just change 'run xterm' to 'start /B xterm', which would put xterm in the background but still print its messages to the launching console. Let us know what happens, Harold "ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)" said: > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to work fine. I > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my startwin.bat file) > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run command, either > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit for any sort > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: > > start /b XWin -unixkill > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > run wmaker > > What did I do wrong?? > > Hal Rottenberg | Email: hal_rottenberg@hp.com > Technical Support Engineer | Jabber: hal_rottenberg@jabber.hp.com > http://www.hp.com/security | Phone: +1-404-774-4041 > HEWLETT-PACKARD > > From Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com Tue Jun 25 03:42:00 2002 From: Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com (Eduard Luhtonen) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 03:42:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: <0153D24A4DD6D311BC630004AC4CEDAF605B6C@FIN001> I have same problem on my Win2000 machine and other problem is I can't start KDE at all. It crashes into memory vialation exception while xinit.exe starting. > > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to > work fine. I > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my > startwin.bat file) > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run > command, either > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit > for any sort > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: > > start /b XWin -unixkill > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash > run wmaker From Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com Tue Jun 25 06:25:00 2002 From: Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com (Eduard Luhtonen) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 06:25:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 Message-ID: <0153D24A4DD6D311BC630004AC4CEDAF605B6D@FIN001> My apologies, for being frantic. I forgot to test my latest xfree installation. I've installed older cygwin by with new xserver XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-7 and XTerm work fine. So problem isn't in xserv but somewhere in other cygwin package. I will test next KDE. Problem solving: downgrade latest cygwin updates (you can check from cygwin.log file what you have upgraded last time), test xterm. If xterm works updrade only xserv and test after that again. If you want to upgrade other packages, do it one by one and test after every update, to find which one cause problem. > I have same problem on my Win2000 machine and other problem > is I can't start > KDE at all. It crashes into memory vialation exception while xinit.exe > starting. > > > > > Since upgrading, Xterm will not open. Other X apps seem to > > work fine. I > > will see a brief flicker of xterm trying to open (from my > > startwin.bat file) > > then its gone. I'm using the wmaker WM. If I use the run > > command, either > > nothing happens, or wmaker crashes. I've looked around a bit > > for any sort > > of logs but haven't found anything so far. > > > > The pertinent part of my startwin.bat file is very simple: > > > > start /b XWin -unixkill > > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e > > /usr/bin/bash > > run wmaker > From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Tue Jun 25 07:15:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 07:15:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: Hello kind souls, I've installed the latest Cygwin & XFree86 ; the Cygwin utilities & shells themselves run fine, as does the XFree86 X-server - that is, the twm window manager starts up alright, but when the first (or any thereafter) xterm window announces its position and I click to accept, it vanishes again instantly. After some digging around I found the '-hold' option, and when I use this I can see that before refusing any further interaction, the xterm window displays the message "setuid failed: Permission denied". This happens only for xterm's that I try to open from my own machine; when I do an "xhost +", and open an xterm on another machine with display to my machine, it works ok. I did set my CYGWIN env. variable to "ntsec ntea", chown'ed xterm.exe to 'Administrator' and chgrp'ed it to 'Administrators' (my own account is 'fputte', not a local one but a domain account), and did a "chmod ugo+sx xterm.exe" but all that didn't help either. I'm probably overlooking something, but I have read the XFree FAQ, I've searched the mailing list archives and did a Google-search, but nothing seems relevant. Any advice ? rgds, Florimon van Putte PS: My config: HP Vectra PIII/500Mhz 128 Mb, NT 4/SP6 System Developer, CMG Telecom (a division of CMG Noordwest-Nederland B.V.) Graadt van Roggenweg 350 (Hojel Center D, Begane grond) 3531 AH Utrecht P.O. Box 8013 3503 RA Utrecht Cell: +31 (0)654 636 046 Tel.: +31 (0)30 233 9561 Fax: +31 (0)30 233 9555 From colin.harrison@virgin.net Tue Jun 25 08:31:00 2002 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (root) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:31:00 -0000 Subject: Broken local xterm Message-ID: <200206250958.g5P9wxe02084@chamonix.straightrunning.com> Hi Probably already known? xterm not working (for me!) on latest cygwin release (1.3.11 cygwin1.dll) from local shell or .bat. OK... stuff like xeyes work and nothing reported in logs!! When I open xterm from a 'remote' machine (e.g. ssh shell.PuTTY) works OK. Temporarily fixed by reverting cywin1.dll (all latest XFree86 stuff installed i.e. 4.2.0.7 xserv etc). Colin From keller@ebi.ac.uk Tue Jun 25 08:42:00 2002 From: keller@ebi.ac.uk (Peter Keller) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:42:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" References: Message-ID: <3D18425E.DA8D352F@ebi.ac.uk> > Hi, I'm getting the same for xterm. My Cygwin / XFree86 installation from about three months ago was running fine, but when I upgraded it yesterday I get the same problem, at least when running as a domain user. Xterm works when I run it as the local administrator though. I also have problems with xcalc (window is filled with the "0" button), and xedit (displays the message "Error: Shell widget fileMenu has zero width and/or height" and doesn't start). This is both as domain user and local administrator This happens with both XFree86 and StaNet X-Win32 as X servers. Is there a problem with the client utilities build? Regards, Peter. From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Tue Jun 25 09:06:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:06:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" In-Reply-To: <3D18425E.DA8D352F@ebi.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000401c21c34$f36ab910$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > > Hi, > > I'm getting the same for xterm. My Cygwin / XFree86 installation from about > three > months ago was running fine, but when I upgraded it yesterday I get the same > problem, > at least when running as a domain user. Xterm works when I run it as the local > administrator though. > > I also have problems with xcalc (window is filled with the "0" button), and > xedit > (displays the message "Error: Shell widget fileMenu has zero width and/or > height" > and doesn't start). This is both as domain user and local administrator > > This happens with both XFree86 and StaNet X-Win32 as X servers. Is there a > problem > with the client utilities build? > This is caused by a stricter uid/gid handling in cygwin 1.3.11. I've stumbled about it and Corinna Vinschen told me to make sure, that for all user, who could own files, which you like to access has to be a corresponding entry in /etc/passwd. See http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-06/msg01198.html for more informations. From jbertran@cirsa.com Tue Jun 25 09:12:00 2002 From: jbertran@cirsa.com (Joan Bertran) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin XFree86 4.2.0-7 works with old HP-UX 9 vue Message-ID: I haven't tried it since 4.2.0-2 but the new release works fine with the old HP stations as well as linux. (The releases 4.1.0 and 4.2.0-0 didn't resize/move windows when dragging the mouse) And the "-nodecoration" parameter is great! Thanks. From colin.harrison@virgin.net Tue Jun 25 09:44:00 2002 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (root) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:44:00 -0000 Subject: Re Broken local xterm Message-ID: <200206251414.g5PEEwL02327@chamonix.straightrunning.com> Hi Remade /etc/passwd then OK. Thanks. Colin From Senthil.Sankaran@geind.GE.com Tue Jun 25 13:35:00 2002 From: Senthil.Sankaran@geind.GE.com (Sankaran, Senthil K (Indsys)) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 13:35:00 -0000 Subject: Debugging with Cygwin Message-ID: <05C613689F01D611AC820002A54177C001BACCE5@GIAHYDMSX2.SGE.INDSYS.GE.COM> Hi, We have installed cygwin and we were using it for just compilation for over a month. We just went ahead with linking and making the exe. We could make the executable, but when we try to run the exe , We are getting a segmentation fault(core dump).We tried to invoke the debugger to investigate further, Once the debugger is invoked it gets us to the assembly code and it is pointing to the main function. We could not do any further debugging to locate the problem( though we understand this is because of incorrect use of pointers, memory leaks etc), as we get a signal dialog and a OK click again gets us back to main. Appreciate if you can guide me on this issue. Please let me know if you require any more details Thanks > Senthil > > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Jun 25 17:45:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 17:45:00 -0000 Subject: Debugging with Cygwin In-Reply-To: <05C613689F01D611AC820002A54177C001BACCE5@GIAHYDMSX2.SGE.INDSYS.GE.COM> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Sankaran, Senthil K (Indsys) wrote: > further, Once the debugger is invoked it gets us to the assembly code and it > is pointing to the main function. We could not do any further debugging to You have to compile the program with debug information. gcc has the option -g for this- bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 25 18:12:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles with 1.3.11? Try a snapshot. Message-ID: <20020625160635.GA11798@redhat.com> A couple of problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as many problems as possible first. Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above web page into a temporary directory. 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 3) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 4) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf -- Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions. Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ . From cgf@redhat.com Tue Jun 25 22:07:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:07:00 -0000 Subject: Troubles with 1.3.11? Try a snapshot. In-Reply-To: <20020625160635.GA11798@redhat.com> References: <20020625160635.GA11798@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020625161217.GB31059@redhat.com> On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:06:35PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >A couple of problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so >please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. > >I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as >many problems as possible first. > >Snapshot installation instructions: > >To install a snapshot: > > 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above > web page into a temporary directory. > > 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 > > 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). > > 3) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf Sigh. > 4) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > >Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path >name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., >"copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you >can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf From keller@ebi.ac.uk Wed Jun 26 00:56:00 2002 From: keller@ebi.ac.uk (Peter Keller) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 00:56:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" References: <3D18425E.DA8D352F@ebi.ac.uk> <000401c21c34$f36ab910$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <3D189E44.BAC48A4F@ebi.ac.uk> Ralf Habacker wrote: > > This is caused by a stricter uid/gid handling in cygwin 1.3.11. I've stumbled > about it and Corinna Vinschen told me to make sure, that for all user, who could > own files, which you like to access has to be a corresponding entry in > /etc/passwd. > > See http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-06/msg01198.html for more informations. Thanks: after fixing my /etc/passwd, it works for me. BUT, I don't use ntsec, which is why I had never read the docs about it too closely. This stricter uid/gid stuff affects non-ntsec use as well: perhaps the user manual could be updated to reflect this? Regards, Peter. P.S. xcalc and xedit are still broken. Maybe a Motif/Lesstif problem? Anyway, these are not the most important of utilities. From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Wed Jun 26 01:21:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:21:00 -0000 Subject: Bug Report: XWin not repainting... Message-ID: I have a ThinkPad laptop which has a built-in LCD screen as well as a 15-pin connector for an outboard monitor. To switch between the 2, I hit Fn-F7 on the keyboard. I've recently discovered that if I do so with the XWin X server visible, it turns to a blank white screen. I need to do something that forces a repaint (like minimize/restore) to get back to something I can see. I looked in the XWin.log file and see what looks like some kind of BitBlt error. Here's the whole log up until I hit Fn-F7 the first time. ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 767 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1024 h 767 r 1024 l 0 b 767t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 3072 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface_Blt failed: 887601c2 -2005532222 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From cgf@redhat.com Wed Jun 26 01:50:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:50:00 -0000 Subject: If you are having troubles with 1.3.11, please try a snapshot Message-ID: <20020626004455.GI5480@redhat.com> A couple of problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as many problems as possible first. Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above web page into a temporary directory. 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 3) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 4) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf -- Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions. Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ . From dockeen@mchsi.com Wed Jun 26 03:10:00 2002 From: dockeen@mchsi.com (Dockeen) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 03:10:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my XP laptop. When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know what that idiot is babbling about. Wayne Keen From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 26 05:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 05:14:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? In-Reply-To: <3D108C83.3030508@cesi.it> Message-ID: Massimo, Unfortunately I know nothing about Xt and apparently no one else on the list does either, or at least they haven't run into your same problem. We haven't made any Cygwin-specific changes to the Xt code in XFree86 so it wouldn't have been by our doing that something is now broken. Granted, there may have been changes to Xt that required a missing change on our part, but then we wouldn't know if that was the case, would we? :) You can always do whatever I do when I've got a problem: 1) Scour any documentation that I've got, reading and re-reading it until I know for a fact that what I have programmed is 100% correct. 2) Scour google.com for any additional information I can find. 3) Take a look at the source code for the library, in your case Xt. 4) Do a debug build of Cygwin/XFree86 (following the instructions in the Contributor's Guide) and run my application in gdb so I can step through until I see the crash. 5) Try to rewrite my program to be "safer". That is, try to do things that the documentation doesn't explicitly mention but that will probably not hurt. For example, in Windows you might throw in a call to UpdateWindow following your first call to ShowWindow if you were having problems where your program didn't paint on launch; some documentation may leave out this detail that calling UpdateWindow is logically necessary. 6) Repeat 1 through 5 until the problem is corrected. Know this: a sample program working on Linux but failing on Cygwin doesn't mean that the sample program is correctly implemented. In my experience I have seen Cygwin react more catastrophically to simple programming errors, whereas Linux seems to be pretty tolerant of mistakes. I have no idea why this is the case, but that just seems to be the pattern. This is kind of like saying "my program works just fine with no optimization, but with -O2 is segfaults"... sometimes a simple change in the underlying layers can make a fault more evident. Good luck, Harold P.S. The Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide is here: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ciccotelli Massimo > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:52 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XtManageChild broken??? > > > Hi all, > I have a port of a Linux application on Cygwin which worked fine using > XFree version 4.1.0. > > Executing the code after recompiling with version 4.2.0 it crashes > (segmentation fault) when I try to open a menu. > > I have tried to identify the problem (unfortunately I am not an X11 > expert); it seems due to a call of > XtManageChild !!! > > Digging around in the Internet I have found a simple example which shows > the same behaviour of my application. the code is the following: > > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > > main(int argc, char *argv[]) > { > XtAppContext app; > Widget top_wid, main_w, menu_bar, info, quit; > > > /* callback for the pushbuttons. pops up dialog */ > void info_pop_up(), quit_pop_up(); > > top_wid = XtVaAppInitialize(&app, "Demos", NULL, 0, > &argc, argv, NULL, NULL); > > main_w = XtVaCreateManagedWidget("main_window", > xmMainWindowWidgetClass, top_wid, > XmNheight, 300, > XmNwidth,300, > NULL); > > menu_bar = XmCreateMenuBar(main_w, "main_list", > NULL, 0); > XtManageChild(menu_bar); > > > /* create quit widget + callback */ > > quit = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( "Quit", > xmCascadeButtonWidgetClass, menu_bar, > XmNmnemonic, 'Q', > NULL); > > /* Callback has data passed to */ > > XtAddCallback(quit, XmNactivateCallback, quit_pop_up, > "Are you sure you want to quit?"); > > XtRealizeWidget(top_wid); > XtAppMainLoop(app); > } > > void > quit_pop_up(Widget cascade_button, char *text, > XmPushButtonCallbackStruct *cbs) > > { > Widget dialog; > XmString xm_string; > void quit_activate(); > Arg args[1]; > > /* label the dialog */ > xm_string = XmStringCreateSimple(text); > XtSetArg(args[0], XmNmessageString, xm_string); > > > /* Create the WarningDialog */ > dialog = XmCreateWarningDialog(cascade_button, "quit", > args, 1); > > XmStringFree(xm_string); > > XtAddCallback(dialog, XmNokCallback, quit_activate, > NULL); > > XtManageChild(dialog); // This call crashes the application. > XtPopup(XtParent(dialog), XtGrabNone); > } > > > /* callback routines for dialogs */ > > void > quit_activate(Widget dialog) > { > printf("Quit Ok was pressed.\n"); > exit(0); > } > > This code compiles and run fine in my Linux (RH7.1) box. > > Is it a bug??? > Am I missing something?? > > I'm using cygwin 1.3.10 on Win98/Win NT 4 sp6 > > Thanks a lot, > Massimo > From chris@itindependent.nl Wed Jun 26 10:00:00 2002 From: chris@itindependent.nl (Chris Jonker) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:00:00 -0000 Subject: rsync Message-ID: I am looking for a version of RSYN to run on Windows 98. It does not seem to be part of the Cygwin package (anymore?). Where can I find a version of Rsync for windows? Thanks, Chris From Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com Wed Jun 26 12:14:00 2002 From: Eduard.Luhtonen@Rissasolutions.com (Eduard Luhtonen) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: rsync Message-ID: <0153D24A4DD6D311BC630004AC4CEDAF605B70@FIN001> Yes, is still a part of cygwin package. Do you use cygwin setup.exe? With this one I can still download rsync. You can find it also from http://www.cygwin.com/packages/rsync/ edu > I am looking for a version of RSYN to run on Windows 98. > It does not seem to be part of the Cygwin package (anymore?). > > Where can I find a version of Rsync for windows? > > Thanks, > > Chris > From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Wed Jun 26 18:14:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:14:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: Ok, I've done mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d >> /etc/passwd mkgroup -l -u > /etc/group mkgroup -d -u >> /etc/group but I keep having xterm die on me with "setuid failed: Permission denied" ?? rgds, Florimon van Putte From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Wed Jun 26 18:22:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:22:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: Let me guess - you have logged in as a domain user, but your home directory is /home/Administrator (or whatever the local administrator is named in dutch...) It seems that cygwin is capable of seeing all domain users and when running 'whoami' returns 'Administrator' instead of the domain user. I would guess that you will have to create an account in /etc/passwd manually - the question is just how... - but I will guess that you will have to find the SID of you domain user and add it to /etc/passwd. Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen Florimon van Putte @cygwin.com on 26-06-2002 10:50:35 Please respond to Florimon van Putte Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com To: Cygwin-Xfree cc: Subject: RE: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Ok, I've done mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d >> /etc/passwd mkgroup -l -u > /etc/group mkgroup -d -u >> /etc/group but I keep having xterm die on me with "setuid failed: Permission denied" ?? rgds, Florimon van Putte From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Wed Jun 26 18:26:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:26:00 -0000 Subject: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" Message-ID: > Let me guess - you have logged in as a domain user, but your > home directory > is /home/Administrator (or whatever the local administrator > is named in > dutch...) Thank god I'm using an English NT installation :)) Anyway - argh ! It works after all - after running the mkpasswd and mkgroup, I hadn't exited my login shell. When I did and restarted it, I landed into /home/fputte instead of /home/Administrator and now it works. Thanks for the help ! rgds, Florimon > > It seems that cygwin is capable of seeing all domain users > and when running > 'whoami' returns 'Administrator' instead of the domain user. > > I would guess that you will have to create an account in /etc/passwd > manually - the question is just how... - but I will guess > that you will > have to find the SID of you domain user and add it to /etc/passwd. > > Med venlig hilsen / Regards > Franz Wolfhagen > > > Florimon van Putte @cygwin.com on > 26-06-2002 > 10:50:35 > > Please respond to Florimon van Putte > > Sent by: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > > To: Cygwin-Xfree > cc: > Subject: RE: xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission > denied" > > > > > Ok, I've done > > mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd > mkpasswd -d >> /etc/passwd > mkgroup -l -u > /etc/group > mkgroup -d -u >> /etc/group > > but I keep having xterm die on me with "setuid failed: > Permission denied" > ?? > > rgds, > Florimon van Putte > > > > From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Wed Jun 26 20:30:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B4077949E5@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> FWIW, I "cut-n-paste"d the sample code, compiled and executed with no problems other than a warning: TestXt.c:26: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast I am using the latest (4.2.0) development environment, LessTif 0.93.18-3 -- all from the setup.exe installation. Good luck. -d. --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 From cgf-cygwin@cygwin.com Wed Jun 26 21:00:00 2002 From: cgf-cygwin@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:00:00 -0000 Subject: Your problems may be solved in the latest cygwin snapshot! Try it out! In-Reply-To: <3D1A0F8E.7CF53876@sfwmd.gov> References: <3D1A0F8E.7CF53876@sfwmd.gov> Message-ID: <20020626191419.GA1956@redhat.com> A few problems have been fixed in the recent cygwin snapshots, so please try one out and report success/failure to cygwin at cygwin dot com. I'll try to get a 1.3.12 out ASAP but I want to make sure that it fixes as many problems as possible first. Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from the above web page into a temporary directory. 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 4) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 5) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. cgf -- Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions. Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ . From MBosticky@opcom.com.au Wed Jun 26 22:06:00 2002 From: MBosticky@opcom.com.au (Martin Bosticky) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:06:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: Dear XFree crew, can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't help. Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose but the bash shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 Martin. >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my >XP laptop. > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know >what that idiot is babbling about. > >Wayne Keen > Martin Bosticky Software Engineer Opcom Office +61 7 3371 1311 Fax +61 7 3371 1257 Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au Web www.opcom.com.au From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Jun 26 22:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:35:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > Dear XFree crew, > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't help. > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > but the bash > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > Martin. > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > >XP laptop. > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > Martin Bosticky > Software Engineer > Opcom > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > Web www.opcom.com.au > > From MBosticky@opcom.com.au Thu Jun 27 00:10:00 2002 From: MBosticky@opcom.com.au (Martin Bosticky) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:10:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: Harold, I am doing as you have said. I have now also downloaded the previous version of XFree and that seems to be working fine on the same machine. So I have no clue but perhaps the latest release has something funny with the configuration? I would not know how to tell. Martin. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 11:22 To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > Dear XFree crew, > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't help. > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > but the bash > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > Martin. > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > >XP laptop. > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > Martin Bosticky > Software Engineer > Opcom > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > Web www.opcom.com.au > > From BradeyH@construx.com Thu Jun 27 00:18:00 2002 From: BradeyH@construx.com (Bradey Honsinger) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:18:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons Message-ID: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EBC83E6F@gypsy.construx.com> I upgraded to Test60 and noticed that dragging the mouse to select text or move a window had gotten very slow--I had to hold down the mouse button and count "one thousand one" before moving it. After a bit of investigation, I found that removing the '-emulate3buttons 500' argument from my XWin command line made dragging work fine again. The problem was probably more pronounced for me than for most others because my timeout was so high--the default is 50ms, and I was using 500ms. I back-tracked through the test series and found that the behaviour started with Test56--Test55 was fine. I'm guessing it had something to do with this changelog entry for Test56: - InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. (Stuart Adamson) I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was fixed. If that's the case, then this problem was just a latent bug in my XWin startup script, not a problem with XWin. In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix--I just wanted to let anyone else who encountered the problem know what the workaround was. - Bradey From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 00:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:51:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons In-Reply-To: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EBC83E6F@gypsy.construx.com> Message-ID: Bradey, Thanks for notifying other users of this. I appreciate it when people send these sorts of things directly to the list, like you've just done. (No, he didn't send it to me privately first, I just wanted to reward good behavior instead of waiting to complain about someone's bad behavior.) Hmm... I'm sure Alexander Gottwald and I didn't have a 0.5 second timeout in mind when we wrote the emulate 3 buttons option. There may or may not be something that can be done to accomodate for this. At the very least, we could set some sort of upper-bound on the emulation timeout and we could warn the user when they try to exceed this value. That would at least prevent people from doing silly things that weren't planned for. I'll take a look at this when I get a chance. Thanks again, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Bradey Honsinger > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:30 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons > > > I upgraded to Test60 and noticed that dragging the mouse to select text or > move a window had gotten very slow--I had to hold down the mouse > button and > count "one thousand one" before moving it. After a bit of investigation, I > found that removing the '-emulate3buttons 500' argument from my > XWin command > line made dragging work fine again. The problem was probably more > pronounced > for me than for most others because my timeout was so high--the default is > 50ms, and I was using 500ms. > > I back-tracked through the test series and found that the > behaviour started > with Test56--Test55 was fine. I'm guessing it had something to do > with this > changelog entry for Test56: > > - InitOutput.c - Fix a typo that set iE3BTimeout to TRUE instead > of the specified timeout parameter when using the 3 button > mouse emulation timeout parameter with a single X screen. > (Stuart Adamson) > > I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the > timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was fixed. If that's > the case, then this problem was just a latent bug in my XWin > startup script, > not a problem with XWin. > > In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix--I just wanted to let > anyone else who encountered the problem know what the workaround was. > > - Bradey From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 00:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:58:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 61 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 61 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'test' package: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-8 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test61.exe.bz2 (1070 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020627-0020.tar.bz2 (72 KiB) Changes: 1) General - Fix the KDE 3.0 alpha-channel icon bug that appeared only when running Windows at 32 bits per pixel. Many more details below. (Alan Hourihane) 2) General - pScreenInfo->dwDepth used to refer to the depth that the user specified with the -depth parameter or the depth returned by GetDeviceCaps (BITSPIXEL) and pScreenInfo->dwBPP used to refer to the bits of color per pixel. For example, running Windows at 32 bit color would mean dwDepth == 32 and dwBPP == 24. It turns out that this was exactly backwards from what it should be. The dwDepth variable new refers to the color ``depth'' of a pixel, that is, the number of bits that make up the color specification for a pixel. For example, a 32 bit pixel uses 24 bits to represent color plus an 8 bit pad for alignment purposes and a 16 bit pixel can use 15 or 16 bits to represent color. The dwBPP variable now refers to the bits used to store each pixel, that is, the number of bits that each pixel occupies in the framebuffer memory. For example, a 32 bit pixel occupies 32 bits in the framebuffer memory while a 24 bit pixel occupies 24 bits in the framebuffer memory (the former pixels are 32 bit aligned, while the latter pixels are called ``packed'' because the pixels are not aligned and any given pixel may actually be stored in two separate 32 bit units). The meaning of dwDepth and dwBPP was corrected throughout the source code, touching files such as wincmap.c, winscrinit.c, InitOutput.c, winshadddnl.c, winshaddd.c, winshadgdi.c, winnativegdi.c, winpfbdd.c, and win.h. Also, we modify the depth 24 pixmap format at runtime to use 24 bits per pixel, instead of 32, when Windows is running in 24 bit color; this matches the Windows pixel format when running in 24 bit color. The end result of all of this is that we now no longer report that we have a depth 32 visual, as depth 32 visuals do not exist. What we were previously calling a depth 32 visual is actually a depth 24 visual with a different bits per pixel. Advertising a proper visual when running Windows at 32 bit color corrects the problem of KDE 3.0 not displaying icons or text with alpha channels. Alan did the magical part of discovering the underlying problem, I did the grunt work of cleaning the code and making sure that all of the corner cases were still handled. (Alan Hourihane, Harold Hunt) 3) winshaddd.c, winshadddnl.c, winshadgdi.c, win.h, winscrinit.c - Remove the essentially unused dwStride and dwStrideBytes variables from the ScreenInfoRec. (Harold Hunt) 4) winshaddd.c, winshadddnl.c - In winBltExposedRegionsShadowDD* () we try to restore the primary DirectDraw surface up to WIN_REGAIN_SURFACE_RETRIES (currently 1) times when a bit block transfer of the exposed regions fails. This corrects the case where switching a notebook from its internal display to an external display (or vice versa) would cause the Cygwin/XFree86 window to blank and fail to redraw itself until the Cygwin/XFree86 window was minimized and then restored. (Harold Hunt) Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 01:56:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:56:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've posted the patch against the current CVS tree for changes up through Test 61 (and a few minutes afterwards), for those of you following the development of Cygwin/XFree86: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test61.diff.bz2 (21 KiB) Here's a couple questions: 1) Should I start posting CVS diff files with each test release? If there are developers out there interested in this I can do it; if there aren't, I might as well not bother. 2) Are the change logs too wordy? I've been told that when speaking I tend to offer a flood of information. Should I post shorter change logs, or should I post a summary at the top of the change log? I have been trying to make short descriptions of bug fixes appear at the top of the change logs so that people can see that a bug has been fixed without reading the in-depth description of what had to be changed to fix the bug. Is it useful to put those short descriptions at the top? 3) How do you like the first six hours I've had to work on Cygwin/XFree86 without any homework to slow me down, for the first time in 18 months? :) Oh yeah, Test61 will need some series testing by users with hardware that does ``packed'' 24 bit color pixels (Windows will let you select 24 bit color rather than 32 bit color when such hardware is present). I haven't got a single machine that can do packed 24 bit pixels so I haven't been able to test at 24 bit color. Once these graphics changes have stabilized I'll start looking at Jehan's systray icon patch. Thanks for testing, Harold From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Thu Jun 27 03:00:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 03:00:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: FWIW: you can also, from the cygwin prompt, run the startxwin.sh script > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:22 AM > To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin > prompt, you are > supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer > or you can > launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a > Cygwin command > prompt). > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I > tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and > it didn't help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the > Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically > incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > > From florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl Thu Jun 27 05:11:00 2002 From: florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl (Florimon van Putte) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: Martin Bosticky wrote: > Harold, > > I am doing as you have said. I have now also downloaded the > previous version > of XFree and that seems to be working fine on the same machine. > > So I have no clue but perhaps the latest release has > something funny with > the configuration? I would not know how to tell. I've had the same problem with the disappearing xterm. When you run xterm with the -hold option, you'll see what's going on: right before freezing it prints "setuid failed: Permission denied" . As some other posters pointed out in the past couple of days, with the latest cygwin release security has been tightened a bit. For things like xterm to work, an entry for the user that you're logged in as, has to be present in /etc/passwd. The problem is that, when you install Cygwin from scratch, at post-install time, it only creates entries in /etc/passwd for all the local accounts. If you're logged in as a (non-local) domain user, you'll have to add an entry for it yourself to /etc/passwd. It's easy to do so, all I had to do to get my own 'fputte' account added was (from a cygwin prompt) : "mkpasswd -d -u fputte >> /etc/passwd" . After this, exit Cygwin, restart it, and you should be able to run xterm. rgds, Florimon > > Martin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 11:22 > To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin > prompt, you are > supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer > or you can > launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a > Cygwin command > prompt). > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I > tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and > it didn't help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the > Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically > incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > > From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 05:33:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:33:00 -0000 Subject: solaris XDMCP session freezing up Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to get a solaris box logon screen to run via xwin using the following command: xwin -query remotehostName -from localhostName -fp tcp/remotehostName:7100 The problem is that after the solaris hourglass cursor appears the session seems to freeze up. I know the FAQ says this won't work on 24 bit depth, but I've also tried 16 bit and 256 Colors (is that 8 bit?) and had no more luck. Is there anything else I can try? Thanks for your help, JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Thu Jun 27 05:46:00 2002 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:46:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 Message-ID: Your long changelogs are doing a very nice educational reading for me at least - I appreciate them very much... Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen From vervoom@hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 06:30:00 2002 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:30:00 -0000 Subject: solaris XDMCP session freezing up Message-ID: I forgot to mention that this works on one Solaris box I'm trying but not on the other. They are both Solaris version 2.8. >Hi, > >I'm trying to get a solaris box logon screen to run via xwin using the >following command: > >xwin -query remotehostName -from localhostName -fp tcp/remotehostName:7100 > >The problem is that after the solaris hourglass cursor appears the session >seems to freeze up. I know the FAQ says this won't work on 24 bit depth, >but >I've also tried 16 bit and 256 Colors (is that 8 bit?) and had no more >luck. > >Is there anything else I can try? > >Thanks for your help, > >JS. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 27 06:31:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:31:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A431@ldnisp14.evolution.net> > I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the > timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was > fixed. Worse than that - XWin was ignoring the parameter and also the default 50ms and setting the timeout to 1 millisecond. > In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix We could ErrorF("emulate3buttons timeout >100ms. Is this really what you want?"); but how many people would read /tmp/XWin.log to see that this is a problem? Stuart From dct-linuq@iquebec.com Thu Jun 27 07:23:00 2002 From: dct-linuq@iquebec.com (dct-linuq@iquebec.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:23:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Message-ID: <200206271209.3750@th00.opsion.fr> Hello all, thanks for listening, I have a problem starting/working in Xfree under cygwin. I installed Xfree manually some time ago and figured that it would be easier maintaining it under the setup.exe by cygwin. I uninstalled X and proceeded to install it from scratch with the cygwin utility setup.exe (selecting the base package). Unfortunately, the new installation did not work properly. Unpon seeing that, I unsinstalled the package unsing the standard setup.exe utility and removed the /etc/X11 and the /usr/X11R6 branches (rm -Rf) to make sure no old config files would remain. I reinstalled the X base package with setup.exe and it still does not work. I have tried to start X using the startx and the startxwin.sh methods without complete success. They result in different behaviours however... 1- Starting X with startxwin.sh from bash in /dev/conin When starting X with the command startxwin.sh I manage to get X running with the main window with the aquamarine4 background. I even get the mouse shape for to indicate the position of a new window (xterm). When I try to position the window (which is called bash or unnamed), the mouse switch to the traditional X but no xterm appears. I can get the the twm menu with most functionalities working (show iconmgr, hide, move , delete, etc.) but no xterm. I get the mouse changing shape but no window appears. Just in case, I join the /tmp/Xwin.log file at the end. 2- Starting X with startx from bash in /dev/conin Using startx command leaves me hanging for a few second. Then ne main window appears followed by the clock that is specified in the .xinitrc file in ~/. X stop and the main window disapears with some error messages : waiting for X server to shut down XIO: fatal IO error 104 on X server ":0.0" after 279 requests <278 known processed> with 2 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 110 on X server ":0.0" after 58 requests <49 known processed> with 0 events remaining. (the number of requests varies from time to time) I provide at the end the ~/.xinitrc. The startxwin.sh is the standard one that comes with the package. I have added a few lines in the ~/.xinitrc that were working in the old manual installation of X. I also provide information that may be useful like the version of packages. I would truely appreciate any help to find and solve this problem. Any ideas or thoughts would be most welcome. ================================================== Daniel Chamberland-Tremblay ================================================== FILES : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ copy of /tmp/XWin.log ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 960 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 932 1280 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 932 1280 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 907 r 1274 l 0 b 907 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ copy of ~/.xinitrx #!/bin/sh # $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $ userresources=$HOME/.Xresources usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap.cf2 sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap # merge in defaults and keymaps if [ -f $sysresources ]; then xrdb -merge $sysresources fi if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then xmodmap $sysmodmap fi if [ -f $userresources ]; then xrdb -merge $userresources fi if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then xmodmap $usermodmap fi # start some nice programs twm & xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & #xterm -geometry 80x30+494+51 -bg black -fg white & #xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 -bg black -fg white & #exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -bg black -fg white -name login INFO : xterm is persent in /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm $PATH is /usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive /c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/lgc/o rant/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/nls/ENGLISH:????? ???????????? Part of the cygcheck -s output : Found: F:\unix\bin\bash.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\cat.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\cpp.exe Found: F:\unix\usr\local\bin\find.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\find.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\gcc.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\gdb.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\ld.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\ls.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\make.exe Found: F:\unix\bin\sh.exe 58k 2002/05/07 F:\unix\bin\cygbz2-1.dll 111k 2002/06/13 F:\unix\bin\cygcurl-2.dll 45k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygform5.dll 35k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygform6.dll 19k 2002/02/20 F:\unix\bin\cyggdbm.dll 17k 2001/06/28 F:\unix\bin\cyghistory4.dll 20k 2002/01/13 F:\unix\bin\cyghistory5.dll 929k 2002/06/24 F:\unix\bin\cygiconv-2.dll 22k 2001/12/13 F:\unix\bin\cygintl-1.dll 23k 2002/06/24 F:\unix\bin\cygintl-2.dll 21k 2001/06/20 F:\unix\bin\cygintl.dll 81k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygitcl30.dll 35k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygitk30.dll 119k 2002/02/09 F:\unix\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll 26k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygmenu5.dll 20k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygmenu6.dll 156k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses++5.dll 175k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses++6.dll 226k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses5.dll 202k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygncurses6.dll 15k 2001/04/25 F:\unix\bin\cygpanel5.dll 12k 2002/01/09 F:\unix\bin\cygpanel6.dll 40k 2001/11/21 F:\unix\bin\cygpcre.dll 39k 2001/11/21 F:\unix\bin\cygpcreposix.dll 171k 2002/05/07 F:\unix\bin\cygpng10.dll 22k 2002/06/09 F:\unix\bin\cygpopt-0.dll 108k 2001/06/28 F:\unix\bin\cygreadline4.dll 121k 2002/01/13 F:\unix\bin\cygreadline5.dll 66k 2001/11/20 F:\unix\bin\cygregex.dll 390k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtcl80.dll 5k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtclpip80.dll 10k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtclreg80.dll 253k 2002/02/10 F:\unix\bin\cygtiff3.dll 623k 2000/12/05 F:\unix\bin\cygtk80.dll 50k 2002/03/12 F:\unix\bin\cygz.dll 874k 2002/06/24 F:\unix\bin\cygwin1.dll Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.11 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 53 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Sun Jun 23 22:31:15 EDT 2002 CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-11-3 Shared id: cygwin1S3 Cygwin Package Information Package Version XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 _update-info-dir 00011-1 ash 20020131-1 bash 2.05a-3 bc 1.06-1 binutils 20011002-1 bzip2 1.0.2-2 clear 1.0-1 cpio 2.4.2 cron 3.0.1-6 crypt 1.0-1 ctags 5.2-1 curl 7.9.8-1 cvs 1.11.0-1 cygrunsrv 0.95-1 cygutils 1.1.1-1 cygwin 1.3.11-3 diff 1.0-1 diffutils 2.8.1-1 fetchmail 5.9.12-1 file 3.37-1 fileutils 4.1-1 findutils 4.1.7-4 gawk 3.0.4-1 gcc 2.95.3-5 gdb 20010428-3 gdbm 1.8.0-4 gettext 0.11.2-2 ghostscript 6.51-4 grep 2.5-1 groff 1.17.2-1 gzip 1.3.2-1 inetutils 1.3.2-17 jpeg 6b-7 less 374-1 libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 libiconv2 1.8-2 libintl 0.10.38-3 libintl1 0.10.40-1 libintl2 0.11.2-2 libncurses5 5.2-1 libncurses6 5.2-8 libpng10 1.0.13-3 libpopt0 1.6.4-4 libreadline4 4.1-2 libreadline5 4.2a-1 login 1.4-3 lynx 2.8.4-1 make 3.79.1-7 man 1.5g-2 mktemp 1.4-1 mutt 1.2.5i-6 ncftp 3.1.3-1 ncurses 5.2-8 newlib-man 20001118-1 patch 2.5-3 pcre 3.7-1 perl 5.6.1-2 popt 1.6.4-4 postgresql 7.2.1-2 procmail 3.22-6 python 2.2.1-1 rcs 5.7-3 readline 4.2a-1 regex 4.4-2 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shutdown 1.2-2 ssmtp 2.38.7-3 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 texinfo 4.2-3 textutils 2.0.21-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.5-1 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 whois 4.5.17-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 07:32:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:32:00 -0000 Subject: Next step in XFREE debug for New-B Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C98@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> I was told I was doing it wrong, i.e. "You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold" To keep you updated, when I did it correctly, the same result occurs, i.e. the main window appears, acqua-marine background, with a small iconized window labeled bash. The main window is labeled Cygwin/XFree86. The cursor has the pattern of something designating the corner of something. If I click on the icon labeled bash, it disappears. If I left click in the main window, I get a menu which includes xterm. If I click on that, I get an icon labeled untitled, if I click on that, or click anywhere, it disappears. The suiggestion was made last night to try the previous version of XFree, which I will do. I do wish to note that I have the new version of XFree on my home computer, running Win98, and this does not occur. This does not occur even if I incorrectly call the batch file from the Cygwin prompt. Will keep the list updated, and I appreciate the patience and help. Wayne From nickthompson@agere.com Thu Jun 27 07:37:00 2002 From: nickthompson@agere.com (Nick THOMPSON) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:37:00 -0000 Subject: Next step in XFREE debug for New-B In-Reply-To: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C98@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> References: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C98@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> Message-ID: <1025182008.3741.5.camel@en0062linux1.agere.com> Isn't this just another case of xterm not working in recent releases (permission denied). Seems to be something to do with /etc/passwd not having an entry for you user name and only seems to be a problem on NT/Win2k (& XP?) which have better security. Look back at the last few days posts. I've half heartedly tried these fixes, which don't seem to work for me but YMMV. Nick. On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 13:30, Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG wrote: I was told I was doing it wrong, i.e. "You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command prompt). Harold" To keep you updated, when I did it correctly, the same result occurs, i.e. the main window appears, acqua-marine background, with a small iconized window labeled bash. The main window is labeled Cygwin/XFree86. The cursor has the pattern of something designating the corner of something. If I click on the icon labeled bash, it disappears. If I left click in the main window, I get a menu which includes xterm. If I click on that, I get an icon labeled untitled, if I click on that, or click anywhere, it disappears. The suiggestion was made last night to try the previous version of XFree, which I will do. I do wish to note that I have the new version of XFree on my home computer, running Win98, and this does not occur. This does not occur even if I incorrectly call the batch file from the Cygwin prompt. Will keep the list updated, and I appreciate the patience and help. Wayne From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 07:39:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:39:00 -0000 Subject: Continuing debug Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C9B@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> OK, I tried dropping to the previous version of Cygwin's xfree. Same problem. Next, I tried Florimon's advice. I was slightly confused, so I may have screwed things up: (1) First, I assumed 'fputte' was some account name that was personal to that setup. So, I tried to see who I am through....whoami. It told me administrator, so I used that in the suggested command, modified for Administrator, i.e. mkpasswd -d -u Administrator >> /etc/passwd Cygwin informed me that it could not find that user. (2) I tried running through startxwin.sh, same problem. Wayne From bg@genetics.agrsci.dk Thu Jun 27 07:43:00 2002 From: bg@genetics.agrsci.dk (Bernt Guldbrandtsen) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:43:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020627151855.03545e20@genetics.agrsci.dk> Hello all, I would like to add some information to this. It is possible to lauch Xfree under Windows 2000 5.00.2195, SP 2 Danish version with cygwin 1.3.11-3 using xwin& twm&. However if I then try to launch an xterm I get the placement cursor. xterm dies without any error messages when I then click in order to place the xterm window. Downgrading to cygwin 1.3.10 removes the problem. Hence, it appears that the problem is caused by xterm in combination with cygwin 1.3.11-3. Best regards, Bernt Guldbrandtsen ----------------------------------------8<---------------------------------- Cygwin Package Information Last downloaded files to: C:\Documents and Settings\bgu\Dokumenter\cygwin Last downloaded files from: ftp://ftp.nas.nasa.gov/mirrors/cygwin.com/pub/cygwin Package Version XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 _update-info-dir 00011-1 ash 20020131-1 autoconf 2.53a-1 autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 autoconf-stable 2.13-4 automake 1.6.1-1 automake-devel 1.6.1-3 automake-stable 1.4p5-5 bash 2.05a-3 bc 1.06-1 binutils 20011002-1 bison 1.35-1 byacc 1.9-1 bzip2 1.0.2-2 ccache 1.9-1 clear 1.0-1 cpio 2.4.2 cron 3.0.1-6 crypt 1.0-1 ctags 5.2-1 curl 7.9.8-1 cvs 1.11.0-1 cygrunsrv 0.95-1 cygutils 1.1.1-1 cygwin 1.3.11-3 cygwin-doc 1.0-1 db2 2.7.7-3 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5.2-8 newlib-man 20001118-1 opengl 1.1.0-6 openssh 3.4p1-1 openssl 0.9.6d-1 openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 patch 2.5-3 pcre 3.7-1 perl 5.6.1-2 pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 popt 1.6.4-4 python 2.2.1-1 rcs 5.7-3 readline 4.2a-1 regex 4.4-2 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shellutils 0.0 shutdown 1.2-2 swig 1.3.11-1 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 tcsh 6.11.00-4 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 texinfo 4.2-3 textutils 2.0.21-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 ttcp 19980512-1 ucl 1.01-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.5-1 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 xpm 4.0.0-2 xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 zsh 4.0.4-1 Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Thu Jun 27 15:30:33 2002 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Path: C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\share\emacs\bin C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin c:\texmf\miktex\bin C:\cygwin\windows\command C:\cygwin\windows C:\cygwin\windows\system c:\gstools\gs7.00\bin SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 WinDir: C:\WINNT CYGWIN = `tty notitle' C_INCLUDE_PATH = `/usr/local/include:/usr/include' HOME = `c:\bernt' LIBRARY_PATH = `/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib' MAKE_MODE = `UNIX' PWD = `/bernt' USER = `bernt' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\bgu\Application Data' BIBINPUTS = `/texmf/bibtex/bib/:/localtexmf/bibtex/bib/' BIBSTYLES = `/texmf/bibtex/bst/:/localtexmf/bibtex/bst/' CDPATH = `.:~:~/sci:~/foredrag' COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Programmer\F$(All(Bes filer' COMPUTERNAME = `HAG-I001' COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH = `/usr/local/include:/usr/include' CWFOLDER = `C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior' DISPLAY = `127.0.0.1:0.0' HOMEDRIVE = `C:' HOMEPATH = `\' INDEXSTYLE = `/texmf/makeindex//:localtexmf/makeindex//' LM_LICENSE_FILE = `C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\license.dat' LOGONSERVER = `\\FOULUM-DC3' LPRPRINTER = `raw' LPRSERVER = `130.226.241.119' MANPATH = `/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/X11R6/man' MWCWINX86INCLUDES = `+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\MSL;+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\Win32-X86 Support;C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\MSL\MSL_C\MSL_Common\Include;C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\Win32-X86 Support\Headers\Win32 SDK;' MWWINX86LIBRARIES = `+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\MSL;+C:\Programmer\Metrowerks\CodeWarrior\Win32-x86 Support;' MWWINX86LIBRARYFILES = `MSL_C_x86.lib;MSL_Extras_x86.lib;MSL_Runtime_x86.lib;MSL_C++_x86.lib;gdi32.lib;user32.lib;kernel32.lib;' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OLDPWD = `/usr/bin' OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' OS = `Windows_NT' PAGER = `less' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.tcl' PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel' PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `15' PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0007' PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Programmer' PROMPT = `$P$G' PS1 = `\w$ ' PS2 = `> ' SHELL = `/usr/bin/bash' SHLVL = `1' SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\bgu\LOKALE~1\Temp' TERM = `cygwin' USERDOMAIN = `DJF' USERNAME = `BGU' USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\bgu' WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' Use `-r' to scan registry a: fd N/A N/A c: hd FAT32 17985Mb 43% CP UN IBM_PRELOAD d: cd CDFS 0Mb -2147483548% CS Audio CD e: net NTFS 173650Mb 99% CP CS UN PA FC h: net NTFS 347310Mb 69% CP CS UN PA FC i: net NTFS 347310Mb 69% CP CS UN PA FC j: net NTFS 49874Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC Data1 k: net NTFS 69457Mb 96% CP CS UN PA FC Data3 p: net NTFS 347310Mb 69% CP CS UN PA FC t: net NTFS 49874Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC Data1 u: net NTFS 49874Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC Data1 c:\bernt /bernt user textmode \cygwin /cygwin user binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive C:/cygwin / system binmode c:\localtexmf /localtexmf system binmode c:\texmf /texmf system binmode C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts system binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Found: \bin\bash.exe Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe hides \bin\bash.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe Found: \bin\sh.exe Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe hides \bin\sh.exe 111k 2002/06/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/13 16:58 81k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:25 35k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:25 390k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:24 5k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 10k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:24 623k 2001/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/10/20 2:25 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 4:05 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 20:24 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 6:54 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 8:33 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 20:53 45k 2002/02/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 0:59 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 6:19 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 10:28 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:28 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:29 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:17 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 2:05 17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 5:34 108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 5:34 20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 2:27 121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 2:27 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 4:45 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:24 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:19 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:24 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 4:22 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 1:46 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 17:58 326k 2002/06/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/19 0:12 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 14:24 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 14:24 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 23:15 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 23:15 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 15:44 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 9:34 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 7:45 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:49 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:50 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 5:38 54k 2002/01/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 2:07 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 4:31 Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.11 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 53 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Sun Jun 23 22:31:15 EDT 2002 CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-11-3 Shared id: cygwin1S3 2057k 2002/06/02 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygMagick-5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygMagick-5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/2 23:42 2393k 2002/06/02 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygMagick++-5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygMagick++-5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/2 23:39 21k 2002/01/15 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 19:09 714k 2001/11/07 \bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/6 19:12 Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.4 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 47 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Tue Nov 6 13:12:58 EST 2001 CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-4 Shared id: cygwin1S3 Use -h to see help about each section From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 07:50:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:50:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04C9E@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> OK, I changed strategy a little bit. I started working down the startx path. I moved the .xinitrc to my home and ran startx from the bash prompt. It then complained of no .XAuthority file. I googled a bit, and found a reference to an empty file being OK. So I created one. This led to some progress, the window comes up, with the clock even, but when I click on anything it bombs back out with a message about fatal IO error 113. startxwin.bat is still behaving the same... Wayne From cygxforever@hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 07:58:00 2002 From: cygxforever@hotmail.com (CygX Forever) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:58:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: I know that for a fact since early this year but I launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt anyway. The reason is that if I double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer, that batch file will *not* clean up my /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 file the next time, which means I cannot run it again subsequently. I'm on Windows XP. Apparently, my WinXP user priviledges are not the same as Cygwin priviledges even if the loginid are the same. How do I fix it so that I can launch from Windows Explorer? Thanks ewu >From: "Harold Hunt" >To: "Martin Bosticky" , >Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:22:19 -0400 > >You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin prompt, you are >supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer or you can >launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a Cygwin command >prompt). > >Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and it didn't >help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world??s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Thu Jun 27 08:08:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:08:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020627143730.GB5126@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 08:36:43AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote: >hello- >I have installed the XFree86 package for cygwin. how to I start up X? >i have tried 'xterm' 'startx' and i get nothing. I found an xterm >binary but when I start it up i get an error about setting the display. >thanks, >brian The Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. I've redirected this message there. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 08:10:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:10:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows Message-ID: <200206271438.g5REcqd93552@pilot08.cl.msu.edu> First, wrong mailing list. Use cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Second, RTFM: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Harold "Henning, Brian" said: > hello- > I have installed the XFree86 package for cygwin. how to I start up X? i have > tried 'xterm' 'startx' and i get nothing. I found an xterm binary but when > I start it up i get an error about setting the display. > thanks, > brian > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > From stuart.adamson@evolution.net Thu Jun 27 08:16:00 2002 From: stuart.adamson@evolution.net (Stuart Adamson) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:16:00 -0000 Subject: x-windows Message-ID: <9920848EF398D311BDC400508BF339F980A432@ldnisp14.evolution.net> http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Stuart On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 08:36:43AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote: >hello- >I have installed the XFree86 package for cygwin. how to I start up X? >i have tried 'xterm' 'startx' and i get nothing. I found an xterm >binary but when I start it up i get an error about setting the display. >thanks, >brian The Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. I've redirected this message there. cgf Evolution is the investment banking and venture capital industry's first choice for practical advice on strategy, business process and the application of advanced technology. Evolution Tel: +44 (0) 20 7664 6640 Peninsular House Fax: +44 (0) 20 7664 6641 30-36 Monument Street London EC3R 8LJ URL: http://www.evolution.net United Kingdom ______________________________________________________ The information in this Internet e-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Evolution or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact Evolution, London, +44 (0) 20 7664 6640 _____________________________________________________ From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 09:33:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:33:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] Message-ID: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Wayne, [Please be careful to only reply to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, I am only sending this to cygwin@cygwin.com so that the Cygwin folks know what is going on.] Non-xterm clients work fine. xterm does not work. The base problem here is that xterm calls getuid () to find out what the current process's user id is. Then it later calls setuid (), passing the same value that was returned by getuid (). For some reason, regardless of whether you have run 'mkpasswd -d -u user_name >> /etc/passwd', the call to setuid () fails with Permission Denied. This is not something that the Cygwin/XFree86 folks changed, rather it was something that was changed in Cygwin proper (think cygwin1.dll). From our perspective, and probably from the perspective of the Cygwin developers, cygwin1.dll is broken when Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't work right. Thus, I'm going to guess that the Cygwin folks are working on this and that you need to start testing the latest cygwin1.dll snapshots to help them, and us, figure out when the problem is fixed. I've got a machine now that has the same problem so I will be testing snapshots as well, once a compile job finishes. Here is some information on installing a snapshot release of cygwin1.dll: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00383.html Until further notice, consider your bug acknowledged and in a state of being repared. Feel free to post your results with the latest snapshot to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, but don't expect any further information until the problem is fixed. Harold Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG said: > OK, I changed strategy a little bit. I started working down the startx path. > I moved the .xinitrc to my home and ran > startx from the bash prompt. It then complained of no .XAuthority file. I > googled a bit, and found a reference to > an empty file being OK. So I created one. This led to some progress, the > window comes up, with the clock even, > but when I click on anything it bombs back out with a message about fatal IO > error 113. > > startxwin.bat is still behaving the same... > > Wayne > From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 09:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] Message-ID: <200206271458.g5REwFW105358@pilot15.cl.msu.edu> Just a quick note: This problem is not fixed in the 20020626 cygwin1.dll snapshot. Harold From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 11:31:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:31:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list pl ease comment] Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04CA0@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> This is a problem, possibly in addition to my sub-moronic idiocy? Appreciate the update sir, Wayne Keen -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:58 AM To: Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Re: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] Just a quick note: This problem is not fixed in the 20020626 cygwin1.dll snapshot. Harold From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 27 12:18:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? Still debugging [cgf or someone from cygwin list please comment] In-Reply-To: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020627151016.GE5126@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:50:28AM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >[Please be careful to only reply to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, I am only sending >this to cygwin@cygwin.com so that the Cygwin folks know what is going on.] > >Non-xterm clients work fine. xterm does not work. > >The base problem here is that xterm calls getuid () to find out what the >current process's user id is. Then it later calls setuid (), passing the same >value that was returned by getuid (). For some reason, regardless of whether >you have run 'mkpasswd -d -u user_name >> /etc/passwd', the call to setuid () >fails with Permission Denied. > >This is not something that the Cygwin/XFree86 folks changed, rather it was >something that was changed in Cygwin proper (think cygwin1.dll). From our >perspective, and probably from the perspective of the Cygwin developers, >cygwin1.dll is broken when Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't work right. > >Thus, I'm going to guess that the Cygwin folks are working on this and that >you need to start testing the latest cygwin1.dll snapshots to help them, and >us, figure out when the problem is fixed. I've got a machine now that has the >same problem so I will be testing snapshots as well, once a compile job finishes. > >Here is some information on installing a snapshot release of cygwin1.dll: >http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00383.html Thanks for *trying* a snapshot, Harold, and reporting on your experiences. I guess we'll keep plugging at this. My time is very limited but I'll try to debug this X problem as soon as I have a chance. Until then if someone could 1) Try the very latest snapshot (the 2002-06-26 snapshot changed several times yesterday) and 2) post an strace from a failing xterm. It would help enormously. cgf From dct-linuq@iquebec.com Thu Jun 27 14:12:00 2002 From: dct-linuq@iquebec.com (dct-linuq@iquebec.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:12:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Message-ID: <200206271515.380c@th00.opsion.fr> Problem solved !!!, Thanks to van Putte, Wolfhagen, Habacker et al. that had already discussed the matter under a different title. Sorry for the inconvenience. A hint for those who, like me, do not know much about this stuff check for error beyond X and into xterm behaviour: 1- Step to diagnostic The new version of cygwin 1.3.11 (try cygcheck -s | grep "cygwin" to see the cygwin version) there is some change in the implementation of the security (that among other thing do not permit you to open xterm sessions). You must adjust your system consequently by defining a "real" user and not some kind of Administrator (before I was Administrateur and now daniel (my real login name)). To diagnose my problem I added the "-hold" option to the command xterm (xterm -hold &)in my startup scripts (startxwin.sh and .xinitrc). That's when I realised that it was a Permission problem and not an X problem. 2- X and xterm related problems and cygwin security To redefine users see the thread this month : -> xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" and the mkpasswd command. Basically what it does it to make a new password file with users and network information. Cygwin uses it for the login. Attention!!! Watch for big network, the file could end up very long. Here is what I did : mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d | grep "daniel" >> /etc/passwd (I knew my login name to be daniel) And voila, I am now daniel@mymachine and no longuer Administrateur@mymachine. And the best of it xterm now works (after some tweeking, read on). 3- Tweeking scripts for optimum functionning When I finally got my X working (with the steps outlined above), I had to add "-e /usr/bin/bash" to the xterm command in my startup scripts (xterm -e /usr/bin/bash &) because it could not find bash in /bin/bash (thanks to -hold option for the hint). I also added an alias to my .bashrc "alias xterm='xterm -e /usr/bin/bash'. Thanks again all, Hope this will be useful and good luck to others DCT From david.w.dawson@lmco.com Thu Jun 27 16:56:00 2002 From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:56:00 -0000 Subject: mkpasswd hints (was: Unable to use X session under...) Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B4077949E8@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> FYI, If you know your login id and account (and you probably do, because you use it every day), you can reduce the time and resulting passwd file size by using the correct parameters to mkpasswd: mkpasswd -u {username} -d {domainname} >> /etc/passwd E.g. if your login name is "funkyuser" and your domain is "SOMEWHERE", the command is: mkpasswd -u funkyuser -d SOMEWHERE >> /etc/passwd Note that the home directory on the created line is probably NOT on your local machine (/home/funkyuser) but the network server location your domain administrator set up for you (G:\sharedrive\funkyuser). So, you may want to edit the /etc/passwd created and change the string between the 5th and 6th colons (:) to a local path (/home/funkyuser) Cheers, -D. --------------------- David Dawson david.w.dawson@lmco.com 703-367-3885 -----Original Message----- From: dct-linuq@iquebec.com [mailto:dct-linuq@iquebec.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:16 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Unable to use X session under cygwin 1.3.11-3 on NT 4.0 sp. 6 Problem solved !!!, Thanks to van Putte, Wolfhagen, Habacker et al. that had already discussed the matter under a different title. Sorry for the inconvenience. A hint for those who, like me, do not know much about this stuff check for error beyond X and into xterm behaviour: 1- Step to diagnostic The new version of cygwin 1.3.11 (try cygcheck -s | grep "cygwin" to see the cygwin version) there is some change in the implementation of the security (that among other thing do not permit you to open xterm sessions). You must adjust your system consequently by defining a "real" user and not some kind of Administrator (before I was Administrateur and now daniel (my real login name)). To diagnose my problem I added the "-hold" option to the command xterm (xterm -hold &)in my startup scripts (startxwin.sh and .xinitrc). That's when I realised that it was a Permission problem and not an X problem. 2- X and xterm related problems and cygwin security To redefine users see the thread this month : -> xterm fails to start with "setuid failed: Permission denied" and the mkpasswd command. Basically what it does it to make a new password file with users and network information. Cygwin uses it for the login. Attention!!! Watch for big network, the file could end up very long. Here is what I did : mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd mkpasswd -d | grep "daniel" >> /etc/passwd (I knew my login name to be daniel) And voila, I am now daniel@mymachine and no longuer Administrateur@mymachine. And the best of it xterm now works (after some tweeking, read on). 3- Tweeking scripts for optimum functionning When I finally got my X working (with the steps outlined above), I had to add "-e /usr/bin/bash" to the xterm command in my startup scripts (xterm -e /usr/bin/bash &) because it could not find bash in /bin/bash (thanks to -hold option for the hint). I also added an alias to my .bashrc "alias xterm='xterm -e /usr/bin/bash'. Thanks again all, Hope this will be useful and good luck to others DCT From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 27 17:24:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: <20020627151016.GE5126@redhat.com> References: <200206271450.g5REoTd85420@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> <20020627151016.GE5126@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020627164153.GA27818@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 11:10:16AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:50:28AM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >>[Please be careful to only reply to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, I am only sending >>this to cygwin@cygwin.com so that the Cygwin folks know what is going on.] >> >>Non-xterm clients work fine. xterm does not work. >> >>The base problem here is that xterm calls getuid () to find out what the >>current process's user id is. Then it later calls setuid (), passing the same >>value that was returned by getuid (). For some reason, regardless of whether >>you have run 'mkpasswd -d -u user_name >> /etc/passwd', the call to setuid () >>fails with Permission Denied. >> >>This is not something that the Cygwin/XFree86 folks changed, rather it was >>something that was changed in Cygwin proper (think cygwin1.dll). From our >>perspective, and probably from the perspective of the Cygwin developers, >>cygwin1.dll is broken when Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't work right. >> >>Thus, I'm going to guess that the Cygwin folks are working on this and that >>you need to start testing the latest cygwin1.dll snapshots to help them, and >>us, figure out when the problem is fixed. I've got a machine now that has the >>same problem so I will be testing snapshots as well, once a compile job finishes. >> >>Here is some information on installing a snapshot release of cygwin1.dll: >>http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00383.html > >Thanks for *trying* a snapshot, Harold, and reporting on your experiences. > >I guess we'll keep plugging at this. My time is very limited but I'll >try to debug this X problem as soon as I have a chance. > >Until then if someone could 1) Try the very latest snapshot (the >2002-06-26 snapshot changed several times yesterday) and 2) post an >strace from a failing xterm. It would help enormously. FWIW, I can't duplicate this failure either with 1.3.11 or with the current snapshot. However, there were changes in the current snapshot which may fix the problem. I hope someone will be brave enough to try one. cgf Snapshot installation instructions: To install a snapshot: 1) Download the latest cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 file from http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ . 2) bunzip2 cygwin-20020???.dll.bz2 3) Stop any running cygwin applications (sshd, inetd, bash, apache, etc.). 4) copy c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll.saf 5) copy cygwin-2002????.dll c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll Obviously, you have to replace the 'c:\cygwin\bin' with the ms-dos path name of your /bin directory. You also *must* use Windows tools (e.g., "copy" or GUI "drag and drop") to copy the DLL to its new home since you can't easily overwrite a busy DLL. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 17:51:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:51:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) Message-ID: <200206271831.g5RIV0R73234@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Chris, I just (at 1430 EDT) tried: cygwin1-20020627.dll.bz2 The problem is still present. Harold From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Thu Jun 27 18:26:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:26:00 -0000 Subject: FW: xfree success! Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04CAD@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:16 PM > To: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'; 'xfree-cygwin@cygwin.com' > Subject: xfree success! > > (1) I downloaded the newest (at least a couple of hours ago) snapshot of > cygwin1.dll, yes, I renamed it and copied it over > to /bin > (2) I used some ideas on the xfree list, for shorthand, I am going to use > my_domain, my_name for my domain name and > user name, substitute your own: > mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd > mkpasswd -d my_domain | grep "my_name" >> /etc/passwd > Now, a couple of important notes here: > In the original hints, they just used -d, and I was to damn stupid to > realize I had to give a domain name after that. Then I had to remember > what it was. > I am on a large network. This took a very LONG time. I gave up and went > to a meeting, it was finished when I got back. > (3) In another classic Wayne is a moron moment, I immediately tried > /usr/X11R6/bin/startx. It did not work, because I was in the > same window I did the mkpasswd in. I closed that, opened a new one, and > it worked! > (4) Note for the startx to work, you have to have one of those .xinitrc > files in your home directory. You can copy the one from > /etc/X11/xinit to your home and start from there. You also (in theory) > need to have a file called .Xauthority, which has the kicker that it > will work if you just have an empty file by that name. Now, this file > gave me some errors early on, I tried moving it a minute ago, > and things worked without it. > > I am still working some issues with bash, but it works pretty well. > Thanks to all those who were patient with me, while I thrashed around. > As I said earlier, I am not sure what fixed my problem, some of the stuff > above may be unneccessary. I do know it is working. > > Wayne Keen > From BradeyH@construx.com Thu Jun 27 19:14:00 2002 From: BradeyH@construx.com (Bradey Honsinger) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:14:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons Message-ID: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EBC83E80@gypsy.construx.com> I think the only reason that I set the timeout so high was because it wasn't working--I vaguely remember having trouble getting the simultaneous button presses to work, which makes sense now. If the timeout was always 1ms, no wonder I had trouble! An error message in the log certainly wouldn't hurt, but I think it'll be a rare enough problem that there's probably no real need. Anyone who would read the log would probably check the list, anyway. If anything, I'd probably put a note in the documentation (Table 3-1) or the FAQ (question 3.4) to the effect of: "Note: setting the timeout too high (>100ms) will make it difficult to drag windows or select text, since XWin will wait to process the button1-down event until it's sure that it's not a button3-down event." That's all pretty obvious now that I realize what's going on, but it took me a while to figure it out. - Bradey -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adamson [mailto:stuart.adamson@evolution.net] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:00 AM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: RE: Mouse dragging slow in XWin-Test56 with -emulate3buttons > I didn't diff the sources, but it sounds like XWin was never using the > timeout parameter to -emulate3buttons until this typo was > fixed. Worse than that - XWin was ignoring the parameter and also the default 50ms and setting the timeout to 1 millisecond. > In any case, even if it is a bug, I don't need a fix We could ErrorF("emulate3buttons timeout >100ms. Is this really what you want?"); but how many people would read /tmp/XWin.log to see that this is a problem? Stuart From cgf@redhat.com Thu Jun 27 19:20:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:20:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: <200206271831.g5RIV0R73234@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> References: <200206271831.g5RIV0R73234@pilot11.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020627235637.GB23480@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 02:30:59PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote: >Chris, > >I just (at 1430 EDT) tried: > >cygwin1-20020627.dll.bz2 > >The problem is still present. Just to be clear, this is just as simple as running the xserver and opening up an xterm, right? Unfortunately, that works fine for me under 1.3.11 and the snapshot. I am running on Windows XP. Don't know why that would make a difference, though. Does the log file contain any useful information, by any chance? Do you think you could do a strace -ox:\somewhere\strace.out sh startxwin.sh , bzip2 strace.out, and send it to me? It's possible that xterm will "just work" when you do that. If so, then you'll probably be able to hear my scream. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Jun 27 19:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:21:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: <20020627235637.GB23480@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, > Does the log file contain any useful information, by any chance? None. Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't get an error, only xterm does. > Do you think you could do a > > strace -ox:\somewhere\strace.out sh startxwin.sh , bzip2 strace.out, > and send it to me? I'll try to tomorrow. > Just to be clear, this is just as simple as running the xserver and > opening up an xterm, right? Unfortunately, that works fine for me > under 1.3.11 and the snapshot. I am running on Windows XP. Don't > know why that would make a difference, though. This problem doesn't happen on my home Windows 2000 machine, nor does it happen on my NT Workstation 4.0 machine at work (though I haven't upgraded cygwin1.dll in a week or more). The problem only happens on a Windows 2000 machine that I use at work (which I just installed Cygwin on two days ago). Both machines at work are members of a *domain* while my home machine is not in a domain. Also, I can only logon to both machines at work as a domain user, as I have no local account and I don't have administrator priveleges to create one (and it'd blow my cover if I told them I needed a local account for debugging Cygwin/XFree86 :) Yes, this is just as simple as running Cygwin/XFree86 with an xterm. The options to xterm do not affect the outcome. The only message from xterm is if you run 'xterm -hold', which keeps the xterm window open after the command shell has exited. In this case the error message, as previously reported by others, is something like "setuid failed: Permission Denied". This message comes from line 3814 in the main () function of xterm's main.c. A link to xterm's main.c is here: http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/xterm/main.c Note: Cygwin/XFree86 hasn't updated any source files or build files since the XFree86 4.2.0 release, except for the XWin.exe source code and binary. In other words, this is obviously not something that we caused :( Thanks for any help, Harold From cgf@redhat.com Fri Jun 28 01:47:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:47:00 -0000 Subject: Progress? (again, please try a snapshot) In-Reply-To: References: <20020627235637.GB23480@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020628005129.GA24327@redhat.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 08:24:55PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >Chris, > >> Does the log file contain any useful information, by any chance? > >None. Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't get an error, only xterm does. > >> Do you think you could do a >> >> strace -ox:\somewhere\strace.out sh startxwin.sh , bzip2 strace.out, >> and send it to me? > >I'll try to tomorrow. > >>Just to be clear, this is just as simple as running the xserver and >>opening up an xterm, right? Unfortunately, that works fine for me >>under 1.3.11 and the snapshot. I am running on Windows XP. Don't know >>why that would make a difference, though. > >This problem doesn't happen on my home Windows 2000 machine, nor does >it happen on my NT Workstation 4.0 machine at work (though I haven't >upgraded cygwin1.dll in a week or more). The problem only happens on a >Windows 2000 machine that I use at work (which I just installed Cygwin >on two days ago). Both machines at work are members of a *domain* >while my home machine is not in a domain. Also, I can only logon to >both machines at work as a domain user, as I have no local account and >I don't have administrator priveleges to create one (and it'd blow my >cover if I told them I needed a local account for debugging >Cygwin/XFree86 :) Hmm. If you do a: mount -f -X -b c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin /usr/X11R6/bin does the problem go away, perchance? I would expect it to. cgf From MBosticky@opcom.com.au Fri Jun 28 01:49:00 2002 From: MBosticky@opcom.com.au (Martin Bosticky) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:49:00 -0000 Subject: New Xfree User Question Message-ID: This has worked perfectly. Thank you very much. I am thinking it could go into the instalation instructions as I don't recall seeing it anywhere. -----Original Message----- From: Florimon van Putte [mailto:florimon.van.putte@cmg.nl] Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 17:18 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: 'MBosticky@opcom.com.au' Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question Martin Bosticky wrote: > Harold, > > I am doing as you have said. I have now also downloaded the > previous version > of XFree and that seems to be working fine on the same machine. > > So I have no clue but perhaps the latest release has > something funny with > the configuration? I would not know how to tell. I've had the same problem with the disappearing xterm. When you run xterm with the -hold option, you'll see what's going on: right before freezing it prints "setuid failed: Permission denied" . As some other posters pointed out in the past couple of days, with the latest cygwin release security has been tightened a bit. For things like xterm to work, an entry for the user that you're logged in as, has to be present in /etc/passwd. The problem is that, when you install Cygwin from scratch, at post-install time, it only creates entries in /etc/passwd for all the local accounts. If you're logged in as a (non-local) domain user, you'll have to add an entry for it yourself to /etc/passwd. It's easy to do so, all I had to do to get my own 'fputte' account added was (from a cygwin prompt) : "mkpasswd -d -u fputte >> /etc/passwd" . After this, exit Cygwin, restart it, and you should be able to run xterm. rgds, Florimon > > Martin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2002 11:22 > To: Martin Bosticky; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > You're not supposed to launch startxwin.bat from a Cygwin > prompt, you are > supposed to double-click the batch file from Windows Explorer > or you can > launch startxwin.bat from a Windows command prompt (not a > Cygwin command > prompt). > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Martin Bosticky > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: New Xfree User Question > > > > > > Dear XFree crew, > > > > can I add that i also have the same problem and that I > tried to get the > > latest cygwin snapshot as described in a recent email and > it didn't help. > > Perhaps i have missed something during configuration i suppose > > but the bash > > shell seems to be working fine. I am running Windows 2000 > > > > Martin. > > > > >I have run into a problem when I started to learn / use Xfree on my > > >XP laptop. > > > > > >When I launch via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat at the > Cygwin prompt, > > >I get the background window, but the terminal window, which on my > > >Win98 machine is my shell running bash, appears to be iconized in > > >the upper left corner, and when I click on it, it disappears. > > > > > >I apologize for the awkward and no doubt technically > incorrect way I > > >have explained this, but I was hoping someone would say, oh, I know > > >what that idiot is babbling about. > > > > > >Wayne Keen > > > > > > > > > Martin Bosticky > > Software Engineer > > Opcom > > Office +61 7 3371 1311 > > Fax +61 7 3371 1257 > > Email mbosticky@opcom.com.au > > Web www.opcom.com.au > > > > > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Fri Jun 28 05:32:00 2002 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 05:32:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I second that. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Franz Wolfhagen Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:58 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 Your long changelogs are doing a very nice educational reading for me at least - I appreciate them very much... Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 28 05:59:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 05:59:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Okay, I'll stick with the current lenghty-when-necessary format. I'm glad they are helping people, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Gervais > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:14 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 > > > I second that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On > Behalf Of Franz Wolfhagen > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:58 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 > > > Your long changelogs are doing a very nice educational reading for me at > least - I appreciate them very much... > > Med venlig hilsen / Regards > Franz Wolfhagen > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 28 09:56:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:56:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I need someone with a graphics card capable of 15 bits per pixel to run Test 61 and tell us what happens. Also, run XWin.exe with 'XWin -fullscreen -depth 15' (when you are running Windows in some depth other than 15) and let us know what happens. Both of these situations are expected to not go well, but I need some specifics. Thanks for testing, Harold From ebiris@cadence.com Fri Jun 28 10:07:00 2002 From: ebiris@cadence.com (Elias Biris) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: xterm behaving oddly Message-ID: Hi, I am trying to run XFree on cygwin. Had tried in the past (2 months ago) with success. Now I got all the packages for XFree (XFree86 4.2.0(165) - as appears to be the latest in the setup screens) using the cygwin setup program and tried WindowMaker/fvwm/ION window managers. In my previous attempt with XFree I had got all the packages by hand and installed them one by one. In window managers that I tried, although they start without errors, when I try to get an xterm it just flashes by the screen and vanishes. There is no error or debug output in the Cygwin shell box where I typed startx. Has anyone seen this before? I attach a the result of cygcheck -s -v -r below Kind regards Elias Biris, Systems and Design Verification R&D Cadence Design Systems Ltd, SOC Design Centre 1 The Alba Campus TEL: +44 (0)1506595036 Livingston, EH54 7HH FAX: +44 (0)1506595959 --------- Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Fri Jun 28 09:43:26 2002 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Path: d:\atria\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\lib C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\i686-pc-cygwin . c:\programs\bin c:\programs\perl\bin C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin c:\HOME\packages\ion\bin f:\Programs\emacs\emacs-21.1\bin c:\WINDOWS c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 WinDir: C:\WINNT HOME = `c:\HOME' MAKE_MODE = `unix' PWD = `/c/HOME/install/ion-devel-20020605' TCL_LIBRARY = `c:\ruby\tcl\lib\tcl8.3' USER = `ebiris' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris\Application Data' CLEARCASE_PRIMARY_GROUP = `daemon' COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' COMPUTERNAME = `PC-EBIRIS' COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' HOMEPATH = `\' HOMESHARE = `\\svr1-livingston\users\ebiris\Private' INCLUDE = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\atl\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\mfc\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\include' JAVA_HOME = `C:\jdk1.3.1' JAVA_VERSION = `1.3.1' LIB = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\mfc\lib;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib' LOGONSERVER = `\\DC1SJGLOBAL' MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' MSDEVDIR = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OLDPWD = `/c/HOME/install' OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' OS = `Windows_NT' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.RB;.RBW' PKG_INSTALL_DIR = `c:\HOME\src\eCos-1.3.1\ebiris-install' PLUCKER_HOME = 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"cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/18 23:12 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 16:58 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:28 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 3:05 306k 2002/04/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghttpd.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cyghttpd.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/4/27 14:23 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:24 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 9:28 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 5:54 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 18:09 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 23:59 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 5:19 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 0:46 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:29 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:17 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 19:53 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 3:22 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 1:05 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 6:45 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 14:44 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 8:34 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 3:45 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:49 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:50 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:19 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 4:38 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 2:17 Cygwin DLL version info: DLL version: 1.3.11 DLL epoch: 19 DLL bad signal mask: 19005 DLL old termios: 5 DLL malloc env: 28 API major: 0 API minor: 53 Shared data: 3 DLL identifier: cygwin1 Mount registry: 2 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions Cygwin registry name: Cygwin Program options name: Program Options Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix Cygdrive default prefix: Build date: Sun Jun 23 21:17:11 EDT 2002 Shared id: cygwin1S3 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/14 4:13 Cygwin Package Information Last downloaded files to: G:\Utils\Cygwin\cygwin\packages Last downloaded files from: ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin Package Version WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 XFree86-jdoc 4.2.0-1 XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 _update-info-dir 00011-1 apache 1.3.24-5 ash 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openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 patch 2.5-3 pcre 3.7-1 perl 5.6.1-2 pine 4.44-1 pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 popt 1.6.4-4 postgresql 7.2.1-2 procmail 3.22-6 python 2.2.1-1 qt-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 qt-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-qt-2.3.1-b2 qtdevel-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 rcs 5.7-3 readline 4.2a-1 regex 4.4-2 robots 2.0-1 rsync 2.5.5-1 rxvt 2.7.2-10 sed 3.02-1 sh-utils 2.0-2 sharutils 4.2.1-2 shutdown 1.2-2 squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 ssmtp 2.38.7-3 swig 1.3.11-1 tar 1.13.19-1 tcltk 20001125-1 tcsh 6.11.00-4 termcap 20020403-1 terminfo 5.2-3 tetex-beta 20001218-4 texinfo 4.2-3 texmf-base 20000804-2 texmf-doc 20000804-2 texmf-extra 20000804-2 texmf-tiny 20000804-2 textutils 2.0.21-1 tidy 020623-1 tiff 3.5.7-1 time 1.7-1 ttcp 19980512-1 ucl 1.01-1 units 1.77-1 unzip 5.50-1 upx 1.21-1 vim 6.1-2 w32api 1.5-1 wget 1.8.1-1 which 1.5-1 whois 4.5.17-1 x2x 1.27-1 xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 zsh 4.0.4-1 Use -h to see help about each section From ebiris@cadence.com Fri Jun 28 10:23:00 2002 From: ebiris@cadence.com (Elias Biris) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:23:00 -0000 Subject: xterm behaving oddly Message-ID: By the way i should mention that i tried to start other programs in X, such as gvim or xfig and they all came up nicely in the X Server window. It seems that xterm is the odd one out. > -----Original Message----- > From: Elias Biris > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:48 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: xterm behaving oddly > > > Hi, > > I am trying to run XFree on cygwin. Had tried in the past (2 > months ago) with success. Now I got all the packages for > XFree (XFree86 4.2.0(165) - as appears to be the latest in > the setup screens) using the cygwin setup program and tried > WindowMaker/fvwm/ION window managers. In my previous attempt > with XFree I had got all the packages by hand and installed > them one by one. > > In window managers that I tried, although they start without > errors, when I try to get an xterm it just flashes by the > screen and vanishes. There is no error or debug output in the > Cygwin shell box where I typed startx. > > Has anyone seen this before? I attach a the result of > cygcheck -s -v -r below > > Kind regards > > Elias Biris, Systems and Design Verification R&D > Cadence Design Systems Ltd, SOC Design Centre > 1 The Alba Campus TEL: +44 (0)1506595036 > Livingston, EH54 7HH FAX: +44 (0)1506595959 > > --------- > > > Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics > Current System Time: Fri Jun 28 09:43:26 2002 > > Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 > > Path: d:\atria\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\lib > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\i686-pc-cygwin > . > c:\programs\bin > c:\programs\perl\bin > C:\cygwin\bin > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > c:\HOME\packages\ion\bin > f:\Programs\emacs\emacs-21.1\bin > c:\WINDOWS > c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND > c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > > SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 > WinDir: C:\WINNT > > HOME = `c:\HOME' > MAKE_MODE = `unix' > PWD = `/c/HOME/install/ion-devel-20020605' > TCL_LIBRARY = `c:\ruby\tcl\lib\tcl8.3' > USER = `ebiris' > > ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' > APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris\Application Data' > CLEARCASE_PRIMARY_GROUP = `daemon' > COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' > COMPUTERNAME = `PC-EBIRIS' > COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' > HOMEPATH = `\' > HOMESHARE = `\\svr1-livingston\users\ebiris\Private' > INCLUDE = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\atl\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\mfc\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\include' > JAVA_HOME = `C:\jdk1.3.1' > JAVA_VERSION = `1.3.1' > LIB = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > Studio\VC98\mfc\lib;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib' > LOGONSERVER = `\\DC1SJGLOBAL' > MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' > MSDEVDIR = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98' > NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' > OLDPWD = `/c/HOME/install' > OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' > OS = `Windows_NT' > PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.RB;.RBW' > PKG_INSTALL_DIR = `c:\HOME\src\eCos-1.3.1\ebiris-install' > PLUCKER_HOME = `f:\Programs\Plucker' > PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' > PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel' > PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' > PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0303' > PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' > PROMPT = `$P$G' > PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 > \033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] > $ ' > RUBY_TCL_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tcl83.dll' > RUBY_TK_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tk83.dll' > SCOPUS = `C:\SCOPUS32' > SHELL = `/bin/bash' > SHLVL = `1' > SMS_LOCAL_DIR = `C:\WINNT' > SYBASE = `C:\SYBASE' > SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' > SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' > TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > TERM = `cygwin' > TG_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > TOGETHER_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > USERDOMAIN = `GLOBAL' > USERNAME = `ebiris' > USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris' > VIM = `/usr/share/vim' > WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' > _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > (default) = `/cygdrive' > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > (default) = `c:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > (default) = `f:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > (default) = `s:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > (default) = `c:\tmp' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > (default) = `z:' > flags = 0x00000002 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > (default) = `C:' > unix = `/' > fbinary = 0x00000000 > fsilent = 0x00000000 > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ex > plorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu\Programs\Cygnus Solutions > (default) = (unsupported type) > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > (default) = `/cygdrive' > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ > (default) = `C:/cygwin' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/B > (default) = `B:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > (default) = `c:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/d > (default) = `d:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > (default) = `f:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/l > (default) = `L:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/Q > (default) = `Q:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/R > (default) = `R:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > (default) = `s:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > (default) = `c:\tmp' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin > (default) = `C:/cygwin/bin' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib > (default) = `C:/cygwin/lib' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts > v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > (default) = `C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > (default) = `z:' > flags = 0x0000000a > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\01 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\02 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\03 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\04 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\05 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\06 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\07 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\08 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\09 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0A > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0B > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0C > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0D > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0E > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\0F > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\10 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\11 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\12 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\13 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\14 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\15 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\16 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\17 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\18 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\19 > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1A > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1B > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1C > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > setup\b15.0\mounts\1D > > a: fd N/A N/A > b: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > c: hd NTFS 6000Mb 91% CP CS UN PA FC > d: hd NTFS 2706Mb 81% CP CS UN PA FC > e: cd N/A N/A > f: net FAT 1024Mb 62% CP CS UN CIFS.HOMEDIR > g: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > h: net FAT 102400Mb 85% CP CS UN projects > i: net FAT 477520Mb 75% CP CS UN projects1 > j: net NTFS 994Mb 59% CP CS PA stream > k: net FAT 102400Mb 66% CP CS UN distiller > l: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > m: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > n: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > o: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > p: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > q: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > r: unk N/A N/A > s: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > t: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > u: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > w: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > x: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > y: unk N/A N/A > z: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > c: /c > user binmode > f: /f > user binmode > s: /s > user binmode > c:\tmp /tmp > user binmode > z: /z > user binmode > . /cygdrive > user binmode,cygdrive > C:/cygwin / > system binmode > B: /B > system binmode > c: /c > system binmode > d: /d > system binmode > f: /f > system binmode > L: /l > system binmode > Q: /Q > system binmode > R: /R > system binmode > s: /s > system binmode > c:\tmp /tmp > system binmode > C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin > system binmode > C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib > system binmode > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > system binmode > z: /z > system binmode > . /cygdrive > user binmode,cygdrive > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > 125k 2001/12/18 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygaudiofile-0.dll > - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/14 20:09 > 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 7:33 > 54k 2002/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 1:07 > 6k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:23 > 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > 111k 2002/06/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/13 15:58 > 326k 2002/06/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/18 23:12 > 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 16:58 > 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:28 > 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 3:05 > 306k 2002/04/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghttpd.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cyghttpd.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/4/27 14:23 > 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:24 > 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 9:28 > 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 5:54 > 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 18:09 > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 23:59 > 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 5:19 > 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 0:46 > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:29 > 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:17 > 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 19:53 > 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 3:22 > 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 1:05 > 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 6:45 > 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 14:44 > 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 8:34 > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 3:45 > 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:49 > 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:50 > 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:19 > 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 4:38 > 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 2:17 > Cygwin DLL version info: > DLL version: 1.3.11 > DLL epoch: 19 > DLL bad signal mask: 19005 > DLL old termios: 5 > DLL malloc env: 28 > API major: 0 > API minor: 53 > Shared data: 3 > DLL identifier: cygwin1 > Mount registry: 2 > Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > Cygwin registry name: Cygwin > Program options name: Program Options > Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > Cygdrive default prefix: > Build date: Sun Jun 23 21:17:11 EDT 2002 > Shared id: cygwin1S3 > > 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/14 4:13 > > Cygwin Package Information > Last downloaded files to: G:\Utils\Cygwin\cygwin\packages > Last downloaded files from: > ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin > > Package Version > WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 > XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 > XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-jdoc 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 > XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 > XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 > XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 > _update-info-dir 00011-1 > apache 1.3.24-5 > ash 20020131-1 > audiofile 0.2.1-20011218 > autoconf 2.53a-1 > 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2.0.1-1 > mutt 1.2.5i-6 > nano 1.0.7-1 > ncftp 3.1.3-1 > ncurses 5.2-8 > newlib-man 20001118-1 > openbox 0.99.1-3 > opengl 1.1.0-6 > openssh 3.4p1-1 > openssl 0.9.6d-1 > openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 > patch 2.5-3 > pcre 3.7-1 > perl 5.6.1-2 > pine 4.44-1 > pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 > popt 1.6.4-4 > postgresql 7.2.1-2 > procmail 3.22-6 > python 2.2.1-1 > qt-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > qt-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-qt-2.3.1-b2 > qtdevel-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > rcs 5.7-3 > readline 4.2a-1 > regex 4.4-2 > robots 2.0-1 > rsync 2.5.5-1 > rxvt 2.7.2-10 > sed 3.02-1 > sh-utils 2.0-2 > sharutils 4.2.1-2 > shutdown 1.2-2 > squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 > ssmtp 2.38.7-3 > swig 1.3.11-1 > tar 1.13.19-1 > tcltk 20001125-1 > tcsh 6.11.00-4 > termcap 20020403-1 > terminfo 5.2-3 > tetex-beta 20001218-4 > texinfo 4.2-3 > texmf-base 20000804-2 > texmf-doc 20000804-2 > texmf-extra 20000804-2 > texmf-tiny 20000804-2 > textutils 2.0.21-1 > tidy 020623-1 > tiff 3.5.7-1 > time 1.7-1 > ttcp 19980512-1 > ucl 1.01-1 > units 1.77-1 > unzip 5.50-1 > upx 1.21-1 > vim 6.1-2 > w32api 1.5-1 > wget 1.8.1-1 > which 1.5-1 > whois 4.5.17-1 > x2x 1.27-1 > xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 > zip 2.3-2 > zlib 1.1.4-1 > zsh 4.0.4-1 > > Use -h to see help about each section > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 28 11:16:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:16:00 -0000 Subject: xterm behaving oddly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Elias, By the way, you should look at the mailing list archives for the last few days and you'd see that this is a recent problem getting much discussion: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Elias Biris > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:49 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: xterm behaving oddly > > > By the way i should mention that i tried to start other programs > in X, such as gvim or xfig and they all came up nicely in the X > Server window. It seems that xterm is the odd one out. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Elias Biris > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:48 AM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: xterm behaving oddly > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to run XFree on cygwin. Had tried in the past (2 > > months ago) with success. Now I got all the packages for > > XFree (XFree86 4.2.0(165) - as appears to be the latest in > > the setup screens) using the cygwin setup program and tried > > WindowMaker/fvwm/ION window managers. In my previous attempt > > with XFree I had got all the packages by hand and installed > > them one by one. > > > > In window managers that I tried, although they start without > > errors, when I try to get an xterm it just flashes by the > > screen and vanishes. There is no error or debug output in the > > Cygwin shell box where I typed startx. > > > > Has anyone seen this before? I attach a the result of > > cygcheck -s -v -r below > > > > Kind regards > > > > Elias Biris, Systems and Design Verification R&D > > Cadence Design Systems Ltd, SOC Design Centre > > 1 The Alba Campus TEL: +44 (0)1506595036 > > Livingston, EH54 7HH FAX: +44 (0)1506595959 > > > > --------- > > > > > > Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics > > Current System Time: Fri Jun 28 09:43:26 2002 > > > > Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 > > > > Path: d:\atria\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\lib\qt2\lib > > C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\i686-pc-cygwin > > . > > c:\programs\bin > > c:\programs\perl\bin > > C:\cygwin\bin > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin > > c:\HOME\packages\ion\bin > > f:\Programs\emacs\emacs-21.1\bin > > c:\WINDOWS > > c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND > > c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > > > > SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 > > WinDir: C:\WINNT > > > > HOME = `c:\HOME' > > MAKE_MODE = `unix' > > PWD = `/c/HOME/install/ion-devel-20020605' > > TCL_LIBRARY = `c:\ruby\tcl\lib\tcl8.3' > > USER = `ebiris' > > > > ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' > > APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris\Application Data' > > CLEARCASE_PRIMARY_GROUP = `daemon' > > COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' > > COMPUTERNAME = `PC-EBIRIS' > > COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe' > > HOMEPATH = `\' > > HOMESHARE = `\\svr1-livingston\users\ebiris\Private' > > INCLUDE = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\atl\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\mfc\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\include' > > JAVA_HOME = `C:\jdk1.3.1' > > JAVA_VERSION = `1.3.1' > > LIB = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual > > Studio\VC98\mfc\lib;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib' > > LOGONSERVER = `\\DC1SJGLOBAL' > > MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man' > > MSDEVDIR = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98' > > NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' > > OLDPWD = `/c/HOME/install' > > OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;' > > OS = `Windows_NT' > > PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.RB;.RBW' > > PKG_INSTALL_DIR = `c:\HOME\src\eCos-1.3.1\ebiris-install' > > PLUCKER_HOME = `f:\Programs\Plucker' > > PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' > > PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel' > > PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' > > PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0303' > > PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' > > PROMPT = `$P$G' > > PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 > > \033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] > > $ ' > > RUBY_TCL_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tcl83.dll' > > RUBY_TK_DLL = `c:\ruby\tcl\bin\tk83.dll' > > SCOPUS = `C:\SCOPUS32' > > SHELL = `/bin/bash' > > SHLVL = `1' > > SMS_LOCAL_DIR = `C:\WINNT' > > SYBASE = `C:\SYBASE' > > SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' > > SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT' > > TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > > TERM = `cygwin' > > TG_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > > TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\ebiris\LOCALS~1\Temp' > > TOGETHER_HOME = `C:\Together5.02' > > USERDOMAIN = `GLOBAL' > > USERNAME = `ebiris' > > USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\ebiris' > > VIM = `/usr/share/vim' > > WINDIR = `C:\WINNT' > > _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > > (default) = `/cygdrive' > > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > > (default) = `c:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > > (default) = `f:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > > (default) = `s:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > > (default) = `c:\tmp' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > > (default) = `z:' > > flags = 0x00000002 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > > (default) = `C:' > > unix = `/' > > fbinary = 0x00000000 > > fsilent = 0x00000000 > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ex > > plorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu\Programs\Cygnus Solutions > > (default) = (unsupported type) > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 > > (default) = `/cygdrive' > > cygdrive flags = 0x00000022 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ > > (default) = `C:/cygwin' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/B > > (default) = `B:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c > > (default) = `c:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/d > > (default) = `d:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/f > > (default) = `f:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/l > > (default) = `L:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/Q > > (default) = `Q:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/R > > (default) = `R:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/s > > (default) = `s:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/tmp > > (default) = `c:\tmp' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin > > (default) = `C:/cygwin/bin' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib > > (default) = `C:/cygwin/lib' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts > > v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > > (default) = `C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/z > > (default) = `z:' > > flags = 0x0000000a > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\00 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\01 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\02 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\03 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\04 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\05 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\06 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\07 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\08 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\09 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0A > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0B > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0C > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0D > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0E > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\0F > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\10 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\11 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\12 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\13 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\14 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\15 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\16 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\17 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\18 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\19 > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1A > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1B > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1C > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL > > setup\b15.0\mounts\1D > > > > a: fd N/A N/A > > b: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > c: hd NTFS 6000Mb 91% CP CS UN PA FC > > d: hd NTFS 2706Mb 81% CP CS UN PA FC > > e: cd N/A N/A > > f: net FAT 1024Mb 62% CP CS UN CIFS.HOMEDIR > > g: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > > h: net FAT 102400Mb 85% CP CS UN projects > > i: net FAT 477520Mb 75% CP CS UN projects1 > > j: net NTFS 994Mb 59% CP CS PA stream > > k: net FAT 102400Mb 66% CP CS UN distiller > > l: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > m: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > n: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > o: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > p: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > q: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > r: unk N/A N/A > > s: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > t: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > u: net NTFS 67374Mb 92% CP CS UN PA FC > > w: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > x: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > y: unk N/A N/A > > z: net MVFS 1000Mb 50% CP CS CCase > > > > c: /c > > user binmode > > f: /f > > user binmode > > s: /s > > user binmode > > c:\tmp /tmp > > user binmode > > z: /z > > user binmode > > . /cygdrive > > user binmode,cygdrive > > C:/cygwin / > > system binmode > > B: /B > > system binmode > > c: /c > > system binmode > > d: /d > > system binmode > > f: /f > > system binmode > > L: /l > > system binmode > > Q: /Q > > system binmode > > R: /R > > system binmode > > s: /s > > system binmode > > c:\tmp /tmp > > system binmode > > C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin > > system binmode > > C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib > > system binmode > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > > system binmode > > z: /z > > system binmode > > . /cygdrive > > user binmode,cygdrive > > > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe > > Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe > > > > 125k 2001/12/18 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygaudiofile-0.dll > > - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/14 20:09 > > 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 7:33 > > 54k 2002/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/27 1:07 > > 6k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:23 > > 621k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > > 111k 2002/06/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/13 15:58 > > 326k 2002/06/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygdb2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/18 23:12 > > 106k 2002/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygexpat-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/12 16:58 > > 50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > > 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:28 > > 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 3:05 > > 306k 2002/04/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghttpd.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cyghttpd.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/4/27 14:23 > > 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 19:24 > > 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 9:28 > > 23k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygintl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 5:54 > > 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 18:09 > > 81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > > 35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > > 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 23:59 > > 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 5:19 > > 25k 2002/05/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/9 0:46 > > 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > > 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:29 > > 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:17 > > 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 6:27 > > 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 6:03 > > 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > > 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 22:15 > > 171k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpng10.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 19:53 > > 175k 2002/05/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpng12.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/24 3:22 > > 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 1:05 > > 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygpopt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/9 6:45 > > 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygregex.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/20 14:44 > > 156k 2002/05/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/17 13:24 > > 390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > > 5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > 10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:39 > > 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 8:34 > > 623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 1:43 > > 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 3:45 > > 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 > > img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:49 > > 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 18:50 > > 152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:19 > > 15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - > > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 6:24 > > 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 4:38 > > 874k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24 2:17 > > Cygwin DLL version info: > > DLL version: 1.3.11 > > DLL epoch: 19 > > DLL bad signal mask: 19005 > > DLL old termios: 5 > > DLL malloc env: 28 > > API major: 0 > > API minor: 53 > > Shared data: 3 > > DLL identifier: cygwin1 > > Mount registry: 2 > > Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions > > Cygwin registry name: Cygwin > > Program options name: Program Options > > Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2 > > Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags > > Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix > > Cygdrive default prefix: > > Build date: Sun Jun 23 21:17:11 EDT 2002 > > Shared id: cygwin1S3 > > > > 41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll - > > os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0 > > "cygPropList-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/14 4:13 > > > > Cygwin Package Information > > Last downloaded files to: G:\Utils\Cygwin\cygwin\packages > > Last downloaded files from: > > ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin > > > > Package Version > > WindowMaker 0.80.0-2 > > XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-bin 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-doc 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-etc 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-f100 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fcyr 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fenc 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fnts 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fscl 4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-fsrv 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-html 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-jdoc 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-lib 4.2.0-3 > > XFree86-man 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-nest 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-prog 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-prt 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-ps 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-2 > > XFree86-vfb 4.2.0-1 > > XFree86-xserv 4.2.0-7 > > _update-info-dir 00011-1 > > apache 1.3.24-5 > > ash 20020131-1 > > audiofile 0.2.1-20011218 > > autoconf 2.53a-1 > > autoconf-devel 2.53a-1 > > autoconf-stable 2.13-4 > > automake 1.6.1-1 > > automake-devel 1.6.1-3 > > automake-stable 1.4p5-5 > > bash 2.05a-3 > > bc 1.06-1 > > binutils 20011002-1 > > bison 1.35-1 > > byacc 1.9-1 > > bzip2 1.0.2-2 > > ccache 1.9-1 > > cgoban 1.9.12-1 > > clear 1.0-1 > > compface 1.4-5 > > cpio 2.4.2 > > cron 3.0.1-6 > > crypt 1.0-1 > > ctags 5.2-1 > > curl 7.9.8-1 > > cvs 1.11.0-1 > > cygipc 1.11-1 > > cygrunsrv 0.95-1 > > cygutils 1.1.1-1 > > cygwin 1.3.11-3 > > cygwin-doc 1.0-1 > > db2 2.7.7-3 > > dejagnu 20010117-1 > > diff 1.0-1 > > diffutils 2.8.1-1 > > ed 0.2-1 > > enscript 1.6.3-2 > > expat 1.95.3-2 > > expect 20010117-1 > > fetchmail 5.9.13-1 > > figlet 2.2-1 > > file 3.37-1 > > fileutils 4.1-1 > > findutils 4.1.7-4 > > flex 2.5.4-2 > > fortune 1.8-2 > > fvwm 2.4.7-2 > > gawk 3.0.4-1 > > gcc 2.95.3-5 > > gdb 20010428-3 > > gdbm 1.8.0-4 > > gettext 0.11.2-2 > > ghostscript 6.51-4 > > gnugo 3.2-1 > > gnupg 1.0.7-1 > > gperf 0.0 > > grep 2.5-1 > > groff 1.17.2-1 > > gsl 1.1.1-1 > > gzip 1.3.2-1 > > indent 2.2.8-1 > > inetutils 1.3.2-18 > > irc 20010101-1 > > jbigkit 1.2-6 > > jpeg 6b-7 > > kdelibs-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.1.2-b1 > > kdelibs-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2.2.2-b1 > > kdesupport-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.1.2-b1 > > keychain 1.8-1 > > less 374-1 > > lesstif 0.93.18-3 > > libPropList 0.10.1-3 > > libbz2_0 1.0.2-1 > > libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 > > libcharset1 1.8-2 > > libdb2 2.7.7-3 > > libdb2-devel 2.7.7-3 > > libiconv 1.8-2 > > libiconv2 1.8-2 > > libintl 0.10.38-3 > > libintl1 0.10.40-1 > > libintl2 0.11.2-2 > > libncurses5 5.2-1 > > libncurses6 5.2-8 > > libpng 1.2.3-1 > > libpng10 1.0.13-3 > > libpng10-devel 1.0.13-3 > > libpng12 1.2.3-1 > > libpng12-devel 1.2.3-1 > > libpng2 1.0.12-1 > > libpopt0 1.6.4-4 > > libreadline4 4.1-2 > > libreadline5 4.2a-1 > > libtool 20020202a-1 > > libtool-devel 20020502-2 > > libtool-stable 1.4.2-2 > > libxml2 2.4.17-1 > > libxslt 1.0.13-1 > > links 0.96-1 > > login 1.4-3 > > lynx 2.8.4-1 > > m4 0.0 > > make 3.79.1-7 > > man 1.5g-2 > > mingw 20010917-1 > > mingw-runtime 2.0-2 > > mktemp 1.4-1 > > mod_auth_mysql 1.11-1 > > mod_auth_ntsec 1.7-1 > > mod_dav 1.0.3-1.3.6-1 > > mod_php4 4.2.0-1 > > mod_ssl 2.8.8-1.3.24-1 > > more 2.11o-1 > > mt 2.0.1-1 > > mutt 1.2.5i-6 > > nano 1.0.7-1 > > ncftp 3.1.3-1 > > ncurses 5.2-8 > > newlib-man 20001118-1 > > openbox 0.99.1-3 > > opengl 1.1.0-6 > > openssh 3.4p1-1 > > openssl 0.9.6d-1 > > openssl-devel 0.9.6d-1 > > patch 2.5-3 > > pcre 3.7-1 > > perl 5.6.1-2 > > pine 4.44-1 > > pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 > > popt 1.6.4-4 > > postgresql 7.2.1-2 > > procmail 3.22-6 > > python 2.2.1-1 > > qt-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > > qt-2 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-qt-2.3.1-b2 > > qtdevel-1 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.45-b1 > > rcs 5.7-3 > > readline 4.2a-1 > > regex 4.4-2 > > robots 2.0-1 > > rsync 2.5.5-1 > > rxvt 2.7.2-10 > > sed 3.02-1 > > sh-utils 2.0-2 > > sharutils 4.2.1-2 > > shutdown 1.2-2 > > squid 2.4.STABLE6-1 > > ssmtp 2.38.7-3 > > swig 1.3.11-1 > > tar 1.13.19-1 > > tcltk 20001125-1 > > tcsh 6.11.00-4 > > termcap 20020403-1 > > terminfo 5.2-3 > > tetex-beta 20001218-4 > > texinfo 4.2-3 > > texmf-base 20000804-2 > > texmf-doc 20000804-2 > > texmf-extra 20000804-2 > > texmf-tiny 20000804-2 > > textutils 2.0.21-1 > > tidy 020623-1 > > tiff 3.5.7-1 > > time 1.7-1 > > ttcp 19980512-1 > > ucl 1.01-1 > > units 1.77-1 > > unzip 5.50-1 > > upx 1.21-1 > > vim 6.1-2 > > w32api 1.5-1 > > wget 1.8.1-1 > > which 1.5-1 > > whois 4.5.17-1 > > x2x 1.27-1 > > xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 > > zip 2.3-2 > > zlib 1.1.4-1 > > zsh 4.0.4-1 > > > > Use -h to see help about each section > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Jun 28 11:19:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: Win95B TrackMouseEvent not in User32.dll In-Reply-To: <3D1C186A.13916.513D0AD@localhost> Message-ID: Carl, > Sorry for not doing this through the mailing lists, but I don't > subscribe and I figured you should know about this problem if > you haven't heard from others on this. When I searched for > TrackMouseEvent in the online mailing list, I did not see > reference to this recent problem. First: If you don't want to subscribe to the cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com mailing list, you can alternatively read through the archives and post from your normal email account with a note that we should cc you on replies. The list is not restricted to posting by members. > The XWIN.EXE file is linked to missing export > USR32.DLL:TrackMouseEvent. Second: Thanks for the bug report. I should actually have been calling _TrackMouseEvent from comctl32.dll, which calls TrackMouseEvent in user32.dll if it is present, otherwise it emulates it. _TrackMouseEvent is available on Windows 95 with IE 3.0 or later. This fix will be in the next Test and stable release. Heh... I just read the rest of your message... you pointed me to the same answer :) Silly me... > I realize that Win95 is a bit old now, but XFree86/Cygwin is > advertised to work on Win95. Unfortunately, I have a lot of > stuff on this system, which has been inhibiting me from > upgrading to Win98 or later. Maybe this will force me to do > this onerous task. Is the plan to drop support for Win95? Can > I readily back-off to a version that works with Win95B via > the Cygwin setup? No plan to drop support for Windows 95, just a mistake. You'll recall my famous last words when I committed the TrackMouseEvent patch, "I don't remember why we weren't using TrackMouseEvent before, oh well." Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: holmberg@tiac.net [mailto:holmberg@tiac.net] > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 8:04 AM > To: Harold Hunt > Cc: holmberg@tiac.net > Subject: Win95B TrackMouseEvent not in User32.dll > > > Harold, > > Sorry for not doing this through the mailing lists, but I don't > subscribe and I figured you should know about this problem if > you haven't heard from others on this. When I searched for > TrackMouseEvent in the online mailing list, I did not see > reference to this recent problem. > > I've been using XFree86 under cygwin for some time now on a > Win95B system. However, in order to synchronize and get this > code under the Cygwin setup management, I updated to the latest > version through cygwin setup. Now I no longer have a > functioning XFree86 system. > > The error that occurs is: > > The XWIN.EXE file is linked to missing export > USR32.DLL:TrackMouseEvent. > > I searched on the WWW and found references that indicated that > for Win95, the export is _TrackMouseEvent in COMCTL32.DLL (this > comes with IE3.02 and higher but can install independently). > > I realize that Win95 is a bit old now, but XFree86/Cygwin is > advertised to work on Win95. Unfortunately, I have a lot of > stuff on this system, which has been inhibiting me from > upgrading to Win98 or later. Maybe this will force me to do > this onerous task. Is the plan to drop support for Win95? Can > I readily back-off to a version that works with Win95B via > the Cygwin setup? > > Thanks, > > Carl Holmberg > > > > > From wkwan@grow.net Fri Jun 28 12:04:00 2002 From: wkwan@grow.net (Kwan, William) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:04:00 -0000 Subject: Xterm does not start in new installation Message-ID: <53A29CF72629D511B5C600B0D0AB70858ADD63@PALM> Hi all, Cygwin+XFree worked fine for me when I download Cygwin and download the XFree zip files separately. This week I realized that I can actually run the setup program and get both Cygwin and XFree at the same time. (yeah.. I am kinda slow). I ran the setup program, made sure XFree86 basic is selected. Installation went fine. When I run '/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh', all I get is a green screen, mouse curse came up. I click the mouse but the xterm window does come up. Any clue? Am I missing some configuration steps? Thanks in advance William From keenwa@eglin.af.mil Fri Jun 28 13:36:00 2002 From: keenwa@eglin.af.mil (Keen Wayne A Contr AFRL/MNGG) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:36:00 -0000 Subject: Xterm does not start in new installation Message-ID: <30C9E24891FFD411B68A009027724CB702C04CB3@eg-002-015.eglin.af.mil> I am going to take the liberty here of pointing you to my message from yesterday on how I was able, with the help of many PATIENT people here to fix my problem with XFREE/Cygwin, which sounds a lot like yours. Look for FW: xfree success! at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00415.html Wayne Keen From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Fri Jun 28 14:09:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:09:00 -0000 Subject: qt3.0.4 beta1 release available Message-ID: <008701c21ec8$7ccb83c0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi all, A binary package of the qt-3.0.4 beta 1 release os available. Detailed informations about this release could be found under http://cygwin.kde.org/qt3/ Regards Ralf From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 14:24:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: Use Tcp.h? Message-ID: <20020628181636.17585.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 14:41:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:41:00 -0000 Subject: Use Tcp.h? Message-ID: <20020628181947.39561.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I was wondering why X builds with -DNO_TCP_H? Doesn't cygwin have a pretty complete tcp.h/in.h header implementation now? Cheers, Nicholas P.S. - My hand slipped an I accidently sent the last message blank...sorry. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From cgf@redhat.com Fri Jun 28 14:57:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:57:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future Message-ID: <20020628190404.GA8676@redhat.com> I was wondering if I could get some volunteers to test out future cygwin releases on X so that we can potentially avoid scenarios like the recent problems with 1.3.11. All that I would ask is that people be available to try snapshots on a regular basis. I will try to remember to announce any snapshots where there are major functionality changes and I'll try to give at least a week's notice before making a new release (unless I'm trying to make a bug-fix release, of course). I'm basically interested in getting a few people to just stay on the "cutting edge" of cygwin development so that we will know when things break. Anyone interested in doing this? cgf From dockeen@mchsi.com Sat Jun 29 09:58:00 2002 From: dockeen@mchsi.com (Dockeen) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 09:58:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future Message-ID: I will give it a shot Chris. I am a newborn at XFree, but I know that, so I'll try to be careful about crying wolf too often. I am running Win XP Pro on a laptop. I generally get and run setup every couple of days on my system... Wayne Keen From cgf@redhat.com Sat Jun 29 11:00:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:00:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020628210921.GA10688@redhat.com> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 03:35:52PM -0400, Dockeen wrote: >I will give it a shot Chris. Ok. Rule #1 is don't Cc me in messages to the mailng list. You must have had to explicitly set my name in the Cc which should have been a clue. >I am a newborn at XFree, but I know that, so I'll try to be careful >about crying wolf too often. > >I am running Win XP Pro on a laptop. I generally get and run setup >every couple of days on my system... snapshots != running setup.exe. I've posted multiple messages about snapshots and how to install them but I am still getting the feeling that people think that a "cygwin snapshot" is what they get from running setup.exe. However, if you are actually willing to try a *snapshot* then welcome aboard. cgf From nwourms@yahoo.com Sat Jun 29 14:37:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:37:00 -0000 Subject: Avoiding "xterm doesn't work" problems in the future In-Reply-To: <20020628190404.GA8676@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020628212411.1568.qmail@web21002.mail.yahoo.com> Chris, I don't know if this will be beneficial or not, but I intend to be assisting Conrad in testing his cygdaemon branch. Specifically, I will be recompiling X11 with the MIT-SHM extension to use cygserver instead of cygipc. So I guess the off shot is that I'll be constantly using a bleeding-edge version of cygwin1.dll with X11. The only issue is that I'll have to be mindful of problems being generated by the cygserver code and those being generated by the HEAD code. So, I'll let people know if something strange shows up regarding X and the latest cygwin code. Cheers, Nicholas --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > I was wondering if I could get some volunteers to test out future > cygwin releases on X so that we can potentially avoid scenarios > like the recent problems with 1.3.11. > > All that I would ask is that people be available to try snapshots > on a regular basis. I will try to remember to announce any snapshots > where there are major functionality changes and I'll try to give at > least a week's notice before making a new release (unless I'm trying > to make a bug-fix release, of course). > > I'm basically interested in getting a few people to just stay on > the "cutting edge" of cygwin development so that we will know when > things break. > > Anyone interested in doing this? > > cgf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sat Jun 29 14:42:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 61 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020628214059.63905.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harold Hunt wrote: > I've posted the patch against the current CVS tree for changes up > through > Test 61 (and a few minutes afterwards), for those of you following the > development of Cygwin/XFree86: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test61.diff.bz2 (21 KiB) ^^^ Is this necessary? I'll spare you my rant on this bastard of the ISO... > Here's a couple questions: > > 1) Should I start posting CVS diff files with each test release? If > there are developers out there interested in this I can do it; if there > aren't, I might as well not bother. As I am revving up to assist Conrad in debugging and testing cygserver, so this would be helpful! A better solution would be to host a cygwin-xfree branch of the main xfree cvs on sources.redhat.com (pending Chris' approval of course). This would be *extremely* helpful for those of us who might be planning to do extensive updating on a regular basis. Also, this might allow for seamless patches against your changes. Anyhow, this is just a thought... > 2) Are the change logs too wordy?...[SNIP] They are just right ;-). I always say you can never be too verbose with documentation... > > 3) How do you like the first six hours I've had to work on > Cygwin/XFree86 > without any homework to slow me down, for the first time in 18 months? > :) You're doing great, keep up the excellent work! Hopefully, now you'll have time to finish those gtk stuffs. ;-) > > Oh yeah, Test61 will need some series testing by users with hardware > that > does ``packed'' 24 bit color pixels (Windows will let you select 24 bit > color rather than 32 bit color when such hardware is present). I > haven't > got a single machine that can do packed 24 bit pixels so I haven't been > able > to test at 24 bit color. Hmmm... Unfortunately, the only card I have which does true 24bpp is my Sun Creator 3D, which is of no use to you... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nwourms@yahoo.com Sat Jun 29 21:19:00 2002 From: nwourms@yahoo.com (Nicholas Wourms) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:19:00 -0000 Subject: XtManageChild broken??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020628215737.75936.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harold Hunt wrote: > Massimo, > > Unfortunately I know nothing about Xt and apparently no one else on the > list > does either, or at least they haven't run into your same problem. > > We haven't made any Cygwin-specific changes to the Xt code in XFree86 so > it > wouldn't have been by our doing that something is now broken. Granted, > there may have been changes to Xt that required a missing change on our > part, but then we wouldn't know if that was the case, would we? :) > > You can always do whatever I do when I've got a problem: > 1) Scour any documentation that I've got, reading and re-reading it > until I > know for a fact that what I have programmed is 100% correct. > 2) Scour google.com for any additional information I can find. > 3) Take a look at the source code for the library, in your case Xt. > 4) Do a debug build of Cygwin/XFree86 (following the instructions in the > Contributor's Guide) and run my application in gdb so I can step through > until I see the crash. > 5) Try to rewrite my program to be "safer". That is, try to do things > that > the documentation doesn't explicitly mention but that will probably not > hurt. For example, in Windows you might throw in a call to UpdateWindow > following your first call to ShowWindow if you were having problems > where > your program didn't paint on launch; some documentation may leave out > this > detail that calling UpdateWindow is logically necessary. > 6) Repeat 1 through 5 until the problem is corrected. > > Know this: a sample program working on Linux but failing on Cygwin > doesn't > mean that the sample program is correctly implemented. In my experience > I > have seen Cygwin react more catastrophically to simple programming > errors, > whereas Linux seems to be pretty tolerant of mistakes. I have no idea > why > this is the case, but that just seems to be the pattern. This is kind > of > like saying "my program works just fine with no optimization, but with > -O2 > is segfaults"... sometimes a simple change in the underlying layers can > make > a fault more evident. > > Good luck, > > Harold > > P.S. The Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide is here: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ciccotelli Massimo > > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:52 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: XtManageChild broken??? > > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a port of a Linux application on Cygwin which worked fine using > > XFree version 4.1.0. > > > > Executing the code after recompiling with version 4.2.0 it crashes > > (segmentation fault) when I try to open a menu. > > > > I have tried to identify the problem (unfortunately I am not an X11 > > expert); it seems due to a call of > > XtManageChild !!! > > > > Digging around in the Internet I have found a simple example which > shows > > the same behaviour of my application. the code is the following: > > > > #include > > #include > > #include > > #include > > #include ^^^^^^^^^^ [SNIP] Hi, I don't know if anyone noticed, but his code is using a lot of Xm header files and some *tif code. The question I might ask is: Are you using OpenMOTIF or LessTIF on your linux box? AFAIK, OpenMOTIF based applications aren't always 100% compatible with the LessTIF libraries. We aren't even sure if Linux LessTIF applications are 100% compatible with Cygwin LessTIF libraries. And since OpenMOTIF libraries are intertwined with Xt, it is possible that some incompatibilities exist. I'm no X expert, but this would be my first guess as to where you might look. Eliminate that, and then you can call the XFree code into question... Cheers, Nicholas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From lee.1801@osu.edu Sun Jun 30 01:31:00 2002 From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:31:00 -0000 Subject: no need to install xfree86 Message-ID: <003701c21f8e$24d96800$128e1941@alleluja> Greetings.. I remember that formerly i have to setup Xfree86 after Cygwin installation is finished..Now i found that with the present version Cygwin, the dir 'cygwin/usr/X11R6' is already there, and 'x11R6/bin' does contains such commands as: startx, xwin, startxwin.bat... Do i have to install xfree86 agin to use the x-window? since i tried startx, startxwin.bat, neither of them worked. Thanks ----- $ startx giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. $ startxwin.bat startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000 Administrator@ALLELUJA /cygdrive/d $