Rootless mode revisited...

Thomas Chadwick j_tetazoo@hotmail.com
Wed Oct 16 07:40:00 GMT 2002


In response to your first question - the patch isn't in CVS.  I pulled the 
source from CVS, applied the patch that was posted to the ML, then built it. 
  Sorry if that wasn't clear.

As for your other 2 questions - I don't have an answer.

The fact that Matsuzaki posted this patch came as a complete surprise to me. 
  I had every intention of developing and experimenting with such a patch 
myself.  He just beat me to it.

>From: Harold L Hunt II <huntharo@msu.edu>
>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:26:20 -0400
>
>Thomas,
>
>What CVS tree did you pull this from?  Why isn't MATSUZAKI working with us? 
>  If I recall correctly, he wrote the Unicode support for xwinclip, right?
>
>Harold
>
>Thomas Chadwick wrote:
>
>>I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get xfree86 
>>out of CVS and build it).  Very cool.  Thanks a bunch to MATSUZAKI for 
>>coding it!  You saved me a lot of work.
>>
>>Here's a screenshot...
>>
>>http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif
>>
>>Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows 
>>desktop icons down the left side of the screen.  The windows in the 
>>forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes).  The icon in the 
>>lower left is an iconified Xclient.
>>
>>However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless 
>>mode...
>>
>>1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see the bits 
>>and pieces of the "rubber band" outline which happen to overlap the other 
>>Xwindows.  Where the rubber band overlaps Windows windows, you see 
>>nothing.
>>
>>2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window 
>>manager's root-window menus.
>>
>>3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a 
>>root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and 
>>Windows.
>>
>>
>>Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built last 
>>night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday...
>>
>>http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe
>>
>>
>>>From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke <zakki@peppermint.jp>
>>>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
>>>Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900
>>>
>>>Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension.
>>>I think Thomas's idea is something like this.
>>>
>>>With this patch and "-nodecoration" option, it seems to work good.
>>>
>>><< pseudo-rootless.patch >>
>>
>>
>>
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