Rootless mode revisited...

Thomas Chadwick j_tetazoo@hotmail.com
Thu Oct 17 05:53:00 GMT 2002


FYI - I've taken down the binary I posted to avoid any confusion with 
Harold's test release of XWin -rootless.

>From: "Thomas Chadwick" <j_tetazoo@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:52:56 -0400
>
>By the way, my ISP seems to be blocking downloads of exe's.  Zipping it 
>seems to work.  Please download the exe using this URL instead...
>
>http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.zip
>
>>From: "Thomas Chadwick" <j_tetazoo@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, zakki@peppermint.jp
>>Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
>>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:21:25 -0400
>>
>>I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get xfree86 
>>out of CVS and build it).  Very cool.  Thanks a bunch to MATSUZAKI for 
>>coding it!  You saved me a lot of work.
>>
>>Here's a screenshot...
>>
>>http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif
>>
>>Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows 
>>desktop icons down the left side of the screen.  The windows in the 
>>forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes).  The icon in the 
>>lower left is an iconified Xclient.
>>
>>However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless 
>>mode...
>>
>>1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see the bits 
>>and pieces of the "rubber band" outline which happen to overlap the other 
>>Xwindows.  Where the rubber band overlaps Windows windows, you see 
>>nothing.
>>
>>2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window 
>>manager's root-window menus.
>>
>>3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a 
>>root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and 
>>Windows.
>>
>>
>>Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built last 
>>night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday...
>>
>>http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe
>>
>>
>>>From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke <zakki@peppermint.jp>
>>>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
>>>Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900
>>>
>>>Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension.
>>>I think Thomas's idea is something like this.
>>>
>>>With this patch and "-nodecoration" option, it seems to work good.
>>>
>>><< pseudo-rootless.patch >>
>>
>>
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