No Taskbar Icon (Was: Re: -Rootless AND -NoDecoration)

[Harold L Hunt II]

Heh heh...

Harold

Jean-Claude Gervais wrote:

>Here's a heretic opinion:
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>I want a taskbar icon for EACH X application!
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>Nyah!
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On
>Behalf Of Randall R Schulz
>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:45 PM
>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: No Taskbar Icon (Was: Re: -Rootless AND -NoDecoration)
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>Harold,
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>At 10:24 2002-10-25, you wrote:
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>>Randall,
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>>No, there is no such combination of flags.
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>>How do you intend to set the focus to Cygwin/XFree86 without a taskbar
>>entry?  I mean, you could minimize it and not be able to get it back.
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>Without a taskbar icon, I don't know how XWin could get minimized. Would
>"ALT-SPACE N" while the X server "layer" (as I think of it in "-rootless"
>mode) was active do it?
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>Also, the Windows SETI@home GUI shows that a window with no taskbar icon
>can still show up in the ALT-TAB list of icons.
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>>In the future, when we write the Windows-based window manager, I intend to
>>make Cygwin/XFree86 use a system tray icon rather than a taskbar icon, but
>>only when using the Windows-based window manager.
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>That would be nice, but I'd still like to avoid the taskbar icon even when
>I'm using an X-based window manager.
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>>Now, from the perspective of building a correct application, can't you see
>>that it would be incredibly non-standard of us to allow Cygwin/XFree86 to
>>not have a taskbar icon?  No other Windows application that needs to be
>>minimized/restored/closed has that behavior. Typically, only applications
>>that are either closed or open are in the system tray.  Can you see my
>>point?  I suppose you could code such a feature if you wanted that did not
>>change the default behavior, but I'm not sure how much use it would be to
>>others...
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>Not at all. There are applications that show windows without taskbar icons
>when the application writer deemed it appropriate. Since the Windows API
>makes it possible, it was clearly seen as a viable option that might be
>desirable in some contexts.
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>Perhaps others could weigh in on whether they'd like to have the option to
>avoid a taskbar icon?
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>>Harold
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>Randall Schulz
>Mountain View, CA USA
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>>Randall R Schulz wrote:
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>>>Hi,
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>>>Please forgive my creative capitalization in the Subject line.
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>>>I had hoped that using "-nodecoration" with "-rootless" would prevent the
>>>XWin server getting a taskbar icon, but alas, no.
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>>>Is there a combination of options or a configuration file or environment
>>>setting that will suppress the taskbar icon in rootless mode?
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>>>Oh, yeah... Rootless Rocks!
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>>>
>>>Randall Schulz
>>>Mountain View, CA USA
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