Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

David Fraser davidf@sjsoft.com
Mon Oct 27 08:03:00 GMT 2003


Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
>>> Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by 
>>> developers that have been with the project for over two years are 
>>> certainly part of the problem.
>>
>>
>> Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as
>> everybody else.
>
>
> No, this is about my submitting Cygwin-specific bugs that can't 
> actually be assigned to me for committing them, even though I am the 
> "expert" on Cygwin/XFree86.  This thread started to point out the 
> hypocrisy of the situation and to see what the official response to 
> this was.
>
>> I agree that you should be able to commit Cygwin stuff yourself (but I
>> can't do anything about it), I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do
>> much good there though.
>
>
> Thanks for your agreement.
>
> Hmm... rants and threats isn't very polite.  I have asked numerous 
> people to both "elect" me to get commit access and I have asked people 
> with the power to do so to set me up with it (all privately, off list, 
> as it should be).  Nothing has ever happened from any of those requests.
>
> What else am I supposed to do?  I have made a decision that my family 
> deserves the time that XFree86 is having me waste being a patch nanny.
>
> In light of that decision, I am either going to commit my bugs 
> directly to XFree86's CVS, or I am going to leave the project.  It is 
> not a "rant" or "threat" to tell people this.  This is simply the way 
> it is going to be, from my standpoint.  As I said, I have made a 
> decision to give this time back to my family, and I am going to do 
> that, regardless of what other people decide their role in this will be.
>
> Either way this plays out, I get to spend less time developing on X 
> for the same amount of impact, and my family recovers three or four 
> hours a month.  When you are in a graduate degree program and working 
> 30-40 hours per week, that is a *lot* of time.
>
> So here is the choice to be made again:
> 1) Set me up with CVS commit access with the understanding that I 
> commit only Cygwin-specific patches and all others get sent in through 
> bugs.xfree86.org for review by other developers.  -or-
>
> 2) I will stop sending patches for Cygwin support.  It is simply not 
> worth my time and I feel that the XFree86 project has no right to take 
> that time away from me or my family.
>
>
> I ask that the CVS commit access be granted within 2 months if it is 
> going to be granted.
>
> If access is not going to be granted, then a short note telling me to 
> piss off would be appreciated so that I can start setting up my tree 
> elsewhere.
>
>
> Thank you very much for *your* time,
>
> Harold
>
Without getting involved in the disagreement, what about Xouvert?

David




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