Consensus about man and doc X11 directory structure

[Harold L Hunt II]

Charles Wilson wrote:
> Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote:
[...]
>> What's stopping us from moving the Win32 tcltk in /opt/win32, and making
>> new *NIX tcl and tk packages in /usr?  Then all that's necessary for
>> insight is to add /opt/win32 to PATH (either through a script,
>> profile.d, or manually).  Similar packages (i.e. that have both X11/*NIX
>> and Win32 flavors) could use /opt/win32 as well.
> 
> 
> All of this mucking about with tk and insight requires the concurrence 
> of -- and oodles of extra work by -- the tk maintainer and the insight 
> maintainer.  Plus, <speculation alert> given the centrality of the 
> debugger to the GNUPro product, this sort of change might meet 
> resistance from the PowersThatBe channeled thru our local Benign 
> Dictator(s).

Umm... reality check:

1) How many of our BDs actually work for Red Hat anymore?

2) Is GNUPro even a product anymore?  The only date I could find related 
to the product mentioned "GNUPro 2001":

http://www.redhat.com/software/gnupro/technical/gnupro_gdb.html

3) If Red Hat isn't updating any product that uses Cygwin to provide a 
product on Windows, then why are we holding onto this idea that we must 
continue to support something that was once sold?

4) If Red Hat is updating GNUPro, but doing a piss-poor job of telling 
people about it, then what are we?  Red Hat's underground GNUPro 
development team?


Look, it has been made quite clear to us on several occasions that Red 
Hat doesn't pay for anyone in their company to do development on Cygwin, 
so I say, "Who is Red Hat?".  Why do they matter if they aren't 
contributing to the project and are either holding us hostage to 
supporting some long-gone product or secretly using our efforts to sell 
a couple million a year of some product that uses our work?

Why do we kowtow to Red Hat when they appear to have abandoned the 
project, except possibly for some sales that benefit only them?

This just doesn't make any sense to me.

How many people feel the same way when this argument about supporting 
Insight via Win32 Tk comes up?

I don't mean to be insulting and I'm not implying that I would do 
anything to overturn or route-around these decisions (since I really 
don't care about Tk and haven't got the time for a fight), but I would 
just like to know how Red Hat gets to make decisions in this community 
that seems to get very little investment from them.

Harold

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