From keenerb@roleplayga.org Thu Sep 1 00:35:00 2005 From: keenerb@roleplayga.org (Brian Keener) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:35:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse scroll wheel acts as left arrow/right arrow. Message-ID: <43164CBD.2070003@roleplayga.org> I have a microsoft mouse with a scroll wheel that scrolls both up and down, and left/right. The up/down scrolling action seems to act as left/right arrows. In firefox, using the scroll wheel goes back/forwards a page, for an example. Any idea what to do to fix this? Brian K -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Thu Sep 1 11:57:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:57:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC3D@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC3D@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <4316ECA6.7060907@nc.rr.com> Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > How to indecisively start more than one X display on my XP system? > > > Currently I have a startxwin.bat: > ================================ > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > ...... > run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -whateverelse > run wmaker > > > as well as startxwin1.bat: > ========================= > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 > ...... > run XWin -screen 1 1750 1350 -whateverelse > run wmaker > The problem here is that you are varying the screen number, not the display number. Multiple screens come from one server. Try using DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 for the second one. It seems to work OK, at least if you don't try to use multi-window mode for both, even though several things hint that XWin code does not worry much about multiple servers. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Thu Sep 1 12:47:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:47:00 -0000 Subject: Icons In-Reply-To: <43149AF6.6080101@nc.rr.com> References: <200508300103.j7U13Hd9023158@StraightRunning.com> <43149AF6.6080101@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4316F09A.8070009@nc.rr.com> Joe Krahn wrote: ... > It looks like can go from a device dependent X Pixmap (DDPixmap) to a > device dependent Win32 bitmap (DDBitmap), then use Windows functions to > scale when needed. This can only work if pixel data formats are the same > between Windows and Cygwin/X. Does anyone know if there is any chance of > an exception to this? This assumption does not completely work. Monochrome bitmaps have the reverse bit order in X11. I need to figure out if this is only true for monochome masks. I think the only other time it would matter is for a 4-bit display, but I don't know if this would ever happen. One thing that is a problem: If X Pixmaps and Win Bitmaps (excluding new RGBA icons) are stored in device-dependent format, what happens when the display depth gets changed while X is running? If I start X, change the depth, then start an X app, the icon is mangled. So, I think we should always expand to DIB RGBA format, and avoid using DDBitmaps. Can X RandR change depths? If so, is it not correctly tied in to Windows Display changes? Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Thu Sep 1 13:06:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:06:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC3E@exchangema.allegromicro.com> I had tried both SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 I was guessing to recall which way it could be to change the display number and had to decide which to copy and paste into the email. Either way gives me the same the same message and similar logs. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joe Krahn Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 7:57 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: How to have more than one X display? The problem here is that you are varying the screen number, not the display number. Multiple screens come from one server. Try using DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 for the second one. It seems to work OK, at least if you don't try to use multi-window mode for both, even though several things hint that XWin code does not worry much about multiple servers. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk Thu Sep 1 13:43:00 2005 From: Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk (Phil Betts) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:43:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse scroll wheel acts as left arrow/right arrow. Message-ID: On Thursday, September 01 at 01:35, Brian Keener wrote: > I have a microsoft mouse with a scroll wheel that scrolls both up and > down, and left/right. The up/down scrolling action seems to act as > left/right arrows. > > In firefox, using the scroll wheel goes back/forwards a page, for an > example. > > Any idea what to do to fix this? > > Brian K If this behaviour is consistent across all X applications, you could try using xmodmap: First, use xev to identify which button numbers are associated with the up, down, left & right movements. Let's say these are 4, 5, 6 & 7 respectively. If you want the up "button" swapping with left, and down swapping with right, you would enter: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" you can use xmodmap -pp to verify the change. You should see something like this: $ xmodmap -pp There are 7 pointer buttons defined. Physical Button Button Code 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 6 5 7 6 4 7 5 I can't guarantee that this will work with XWin, but this technique works for xorg on Linux, so it's likely to be OK. HTH Phil -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From wong_powah@yahoo.ca Thu Sep 1 16:33:00 2005 From: wong_powah@yahoo.ca (PoWah Wong) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:33:00 -0000 Subject: setup PATH variable by PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin Message-ID: <20050901163323.41980.qmail@web31112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I want to setup my PATH variable by following the instructions of "Chapter 4. Using Cygwin/X, section startx" at http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html. After doing PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin my original path is lost. I use windows XP SP2. Log is: PoWah@powahco-pr ~ $ echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdri ve/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin:/cy gdrive/c/apache-ant-1.6.2/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/cvsnt:/cygdrive/c/Progra m Files/Microsoft Visual Studio/Common/Tools/WinNT:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Mic rosoft Visual Studio/Common/MSDev98/Bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visu al Studio/Common/Tools:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio/VC98/bi n PoWah@powahco-pr ~ $ PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin PoWah@powahco-pr ~ $ echo $PATH %PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin PoWah@powahco-pr ~ $ __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mark.paulus@mci.com Thu Sep 1 16:39:00 2005 From: mark.paulus@mci.com (Mark Paulus) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:39:00 -0000 Subject: setup PATH variable by PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin In-Reply-To: <20050901163323.41980.qmail@web31112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0IM50040ACYCYW@pmismtp02.mcilink.com> The statement should read: PATH=%PATH%:/usr/X11R6/bin Note the trailing % on PATH. That is a "Windowism". On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:33:23 -0400 (EDT), PoWah Wong wrote: >I want to setup my PATH variable by following the >instructions of "Chapter 4. Using Cygwin/X, section >startx" at http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html. >After doing >PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin >my original path is lost. >I use windows XP SP2. >Log is: >PoWah@powahco-pr ~ >$ echo $PATH >/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdri >ve/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin:/cy >gdrive/c/apache-ant-1.6.2/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program >Files/cvsnt:/cygdrive/c/Progra >m Files/Microsoft Visual >Studio/Common/Tools/WinNT:/cygdrive/c/Program >Files/Mic >rosoft Visual >Studio/Common/MSDev98/Bin:/cygdrive/c/Program >Files/Microsoft Visu >al Studio/Common/Tools:/cygdrive/c/Program >Files/Microsoft Visual Studio/VC98/bi >n >PoWah@powahco-pr ~ >$ PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin >PoWah@powahco-pr ~ >$ echo $PATH >%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin >PoWah@powahco-pr ~ >$ > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk Thu Sep 1 16:44:00 2005 From: Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk (Phil Betts) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:44:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? Message-ID: On Thursday, September 01 at 2:09, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > I had tried both > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 > > I was guessing to recall which way it could be > to change the display number and had to decide > which to copy and paste into the email. > > Either way gives me the same the same message > and similar logs. I think the problem is the use of "-screen 1". I've never used the -screen option myself, so apologies if I'm way off the mark, but I seem to recall that it was introduced to allow a single X server to use more than one physical display. If this is what you are trying to achieve, you need to start a single X server with both -screen 0 and -screen 1. If you really do want two displays, try dropping the -screen option (or use -screen 0 for both), and use the :1.0 form for the second DISPLAY. HTH Phil -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Thu Sep 1 17:14:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:14:00 -0000 Subject: setup PATH variable by PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin Message-ID: Mark Paulus wrote: > The statement should read: > PATH=%PATH%:/usr/X11R6/bin > > Note the trailing % on PATH. That is a "Windowism". > > On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:33:23 -0400 (EDT), PoWah Wong wrote: > >> I want to setup my PATH variable by following the >> instructions of "Chapter 4. Using Cygwin/X, section >> startx" at http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html. > >> After doing >> PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin >> my original path is lost. > Actually, i think that if you're in a cygwin bash terminal you have to use $PATH rather than %PATH%. reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Thu Sep 1 17:17:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:17:00 -0000 Subject: setup PATH variable by PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin Message-ID: Mark Paulus wrote: > The statement should read: > PATH=%PATH%:/usr/X11R6/bin > > Note the trailing % on PATH. That is a "Windowism". yep -- that's a typo -- $ PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin should be $ PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From nbheck@cs.purdue.edu Thu Sep 1 20:08:00 2005 From: nbheck@cs.purdue.edu (Nathan Heck) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:08:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/X and 64-bit Windows Message-ID: Is Cygwin/X compatible with 64-bit Windows? I checked the website and help documents but this does not appear to be addressed anywhere. I have installed Cygwin/X in several of our labs each time configuring it the same way and it works beautifully in our labs with 32-bit windows but not a single machine using 64-bit windows will work. I have attached the Xwin.log in hopes that you may be able to make more sense of the errors then I was able to. Thanks, Nathan Heck nbheck@cs.purdue.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XWin.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3308 bytes Desc: XWin.log URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Thu Sep 1 20:30:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC3F@exchangema.allegromicro.com> I simply could not decide if the jabberwocky is called display or screen. As the tumtum it leans on called $DISPLAY, I wish to set to :0.0 and :0.1 as I had in Reflection/X. Right, now that I have to the terminology straightened (to roam cygwin wonderland), Reflection/X allows me to start a display server with just screen :0.0 with a premeditated intent of starting screen :0.1 later or not at all. Reflection would give me two XP windows, one for each independent :jabberwocky.screen. Question I should have asked in light of my enlightenment, "How to have more than one screen on an X display server?" Adding to that question, "How to allow willy-nilly starting of another screen later rather than all at once?" It's all the fault of Reflection allowing me the convenience that I wanted the same in Cygwin. This is what my startxwin1.bat have to do to get two screens. I have to repeat options for each screen. If I closed one screen both screens die. Unlike Reflection. Whom should I ask to modify XWin.exe to allow appending screens after the X server has started? =========================================================== ..... run XWin -screen 0 1750 1300 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error -screen 1 1750 1300 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 run wmaker run xterm -sb -e /usr/bin/bash -l SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 run wmaker run xterm -sb -e /usr/bin/bash -l -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Betts Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 12:45 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: How to have more than one X display? On Thursday, September 01 at 2:09, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > I had tried both > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 > > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 > > I was guessing to recall which way it could be > to change the display number and had to decide > which to copy and paste into the email. > > Either way gives me the same the same message > and similar logs. I think the problem is the use of "-screen 1". I've never used the -screen option myself, so apologies if I'm way off the mark, but I seem to recall that it was introduced to allow a single X server to use more than one physical display. If this is what you are trying to achieve, you need to start a single X server with both -screen 0 and -screen 1. If you really do want two displays, try dropping the -screen option (or use -screen 0 for both), and use the :1.0 form for the second DISPLAY. HTH Phil -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From rhildner@wisc.edu Thu Sep 1 20:55:00 2005 From: rhildner@wisc.edu (RICHARD D HILDNER) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:55:00 -0000 Subject: problem Message-ID: <1a313ef1a37c21.1a37c211a313ef@wiscmail.wisc.edu> I have installed cygwin and everything seems to run smoothly except I can't get any display to work. If I execute XWin then it opens up a grey window with an "X" at the top followed by "Cygwin/X-0:0" and that's it. There's no menu options or anything. If i do "XWin -query remote_host" then the same thing comes up with "Cygwin/X- remote_host". If I connect with "ssh -Y remote_host" it connects me but if i try to execute something that requires a display...such as "xeyes"...Then it says "connect 127.0.0.1 port 6000: Connection refused/ Xconnection to localhost:12.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" So i don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks a lot, -Richard Hildner -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From brian@dessent.net Thu Sep 1 21:51:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:51:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/X and 64-bit Windows References: Message-ID: <4317790F.E582BA11@dessent.net> Nathan Heck wrote: > Is Cygwin/X compatible with 64-bit Windows? I checked the website and help > documents but this does not appear to be addressed anywhere. > > I have installed Cygwin/X in several of our labs each time configuring it the > same way and it works beautifully in our labs with 32-bit windows but not a > single machine using 64-bit windows will work. I have attached the Xwin.log > in hopes that you may be able to make more sense of the errors then I was > able to. I don't know what the official status of 64 bit support is. The second paragraph on the main cygwin.com home page says that only 32 bit versions of windows are supported. However, you may find that it does in fact work in 64 bit windows as there have been some recent fixes in that area. You will, however, have to use a snapshot since some of these fixes have been done recently. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Thu Sep 1 22:29:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 22:29:00 -0000 Subject: problem Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC40@exchangema.allegromicro.com> When I first installed Cygwin/X and tried, I ran into the same puzzlement, if not panic. All the xterms and xclock I started were heaped into the same corner, intransigently unmoveable. (The sun shall not strike thee, nor the moon by night and your feet will not be moved, as though). Then I recalled, hmm .... There is an X Display Server and then there is an X Display Manager. I think. I'm sure I have not confused the terminology. The default as cygwin was installed only started the X Display server. An X Display mgr would be prudent to have if I wanted to have a Motif look or even Win/95 look and to manage how the window or menus behave. I guess an XDM would also help with coordinate placement of apps like xclock and xterms. So I looked into the startxwin files and was as assured to find twm (which I guessed correctly is an X display mgr) commented out. I uncommented it and when XWin restarted my xterms and xclock were moveable. But I didn't like twm because the extremity of my X habits tends to pile up lots of windows and would have me a hard time searching for them without a desktop window locater. Which led me to install wmaker. Hey! Why couldn't I throw xterms from my sun box to local cygwin? My $DISPLAY on sunside was correct. With all the authentication failures and whatnots. Oops, I had forgotten to run xhost + on the local cygwin xterm. (I actually made the mistake of attempting xhost + on an XP cmd window prior to that.) "xhost +" or "xhost + some-network-identifiable-hostname." The installation was rather simple that everyone around my periphery of physical influence should be able use cygwin to replace their branded X display s/w. Now I am beginning to wonder, what if I just started the X display server on local cygwin and then attempt to throw an X display mgr to it from my sun box? Or get a little more screwy, start x server on my laptop cygwin, throw wmaker from my win2k box to my laptop, login to sun box and throw xterms to my laptop. hmm.... looking on the sunnyside of things, but I can't wait for the snow to fall. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of RICHARD D HILDNER Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 4:55 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: problem I have installed cygwin and everything seems to run smoothly except I can't get any display to work. If I execute XWin then it opens up a grey window with an "X" at the top followed by "Cygwin/X-0:0" and that's it. There's no menu options or anything. If i do "XWin -query remote_host" then the same thing comes up with "Cygwin/X- remote_host". If I connect with "ssh -Y remote_host" it connects me but if i try to execute something that requires a display...such as "xeyes"...Then it says "connect 127.0.0.1 port 6000: Connection refused/ Xconnection to localhost:12.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" So i don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks a lot, -Richard Hildner -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jnkxs@poornewsnetwork.net Fri Sep 2 02:07:00 2005 From: jnkxs@poornewsnetwork.net (Omar Ash) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:07:00 -0000 Subject: want to get rich? Message-ID: Hey Michael Would you like at least 1500.00 to 3500.00 per day just for returning phone calls? I do! If you have a telephone and can return calls you are fully qualified for this program. Call us today 800-940-1731 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Fri Sep 2 04:16:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 04:16:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? In-Reply-To: <4316ECA6.7060907@nc.rr.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC3D@exchangema.allegromicro.com> <4316ECA6.7060907@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4317D1ED.2030809@nc.rr.com> Joe Krahn wrote: > Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > >> How to indecisively start more than one X display on my XP system? >> >> >> Currently I have a startxwin.bat: >> ================================ >> SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 >> ...... >> run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -whateverelse >> run wmaker >> >> >> as well as startxwin1.bat: >> ========================= >> SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 >> ...... >> run XWin -screen 1 1750 1350 -whateverelse >> run wmaker >> > The problem here is that you are varying the screen number, not the > display number. Multiple screens come from one server. Try using > DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 for the second one. > > It seems to work OK, at least if you don't try to use multi-window mode > for both, even though several things hint that XWin code does not worry > much about multiple servers. > Oh... The DISPLAY variable has no effect on XWin. Try the following: XWin :0.0 and XWin :1.0 I can run several of these. But, I noticed that MultiWindow mode is broken for anything but display :0. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From marco.lechner@geographie.uni-freiburg.de Fri Sep 2 06:37:00 2005 From: marco.lechner@geographie.uni-freiburg.de (Marco Lechner) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 06:37:00 -0000 Subject: AW: problem In-Reply-To: <1a313ef1a37c21.1a37c211a313ef@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Richard, could it be a simple Firewall-Problem? Marco --------------------------------- Marco Lechner office: Department of Physical Geography University of Freiburg Werderring 4 D-79085 Freiburg Germany phone +49 (0)761 / 203-3548 email marco.lechner@geographie.uni-freiburg.de > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]Im Auftrag von RICHARD D HILDNER > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. September 2005 22:55 > An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Betreff: problem > > > I have installed cygwin and everything seems to run smoothly except I > can't get any display to work. If I execute XWin then it opens up a > grey window with an "X" at the top followed by "Cygwin/X-0:0" and > that's it. There's no menu options or anything. If i do "XWin -query > remote_host" then the same thing comes up with "Cygwin/X- > remote_host". > If I connect with "ssh -Y remote_host" it connects me but if i try to > execute something that requires a display...such as "xeyes"...Then it > says "connect 127.0.0.1 port 6000: Connection refused/ Xconnection to > localhost:12.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" > > So i don't know what I'm doing wrong. > > Thanks a lot, > -Richard Hildner > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Fri Sep 2 13:35:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:35:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC41@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Thanks. I could not find that in XWin man pages, but XWin -help showed it. Though $DISPLAY is ineffectual to XWin, I needed to set it since wmaker (or any xdm) would need to know the display/screen to use. I am a happy clam now. I use wmaker because I don't like using multiwindow mode. I am not good in dealing with disorganised clutter. (the antithesis is rather an oxymoron - organised clutter). -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joe Krahn Sent: Fri, September 02, 2005 12:16 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: How to have more than one X display? Joe Krahn wrote: Oh... The DISPLAY variable has no effect on XWin. Try the following: XWin :0.0 and XWin :1.0 I can run several of these. But, I noticed that MultiWindow mode is broken for anything but display :0. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Fri Sep 2 18:01:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:01:00 -0000 Subject: problem In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC40@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC40@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <4318938F.7090202@nc.rr.com> Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > When I first installed Cygwin/X and tried, > I ran into the same puzzlement, if not panic. > > All the xterms and xclock I started were heaped > into the same corner, intransigently unmoveable. > (The sun shall not strike thee, nor the moon by > night and your feet will not be moved, as though). > > Then I recalled, hmm .... > There is an X Display Server and then > there is an X Display Manager. > I think. I'm sure I have not confused the > terminology. Almost right: the Windows are managed by thw Window Manager, sort of like iexplore.exe in Windows, with the X Display Server being like Win32 GDI. The X Display Manager is actually access control, the log-in prompt on X-based systems. ... > So I looked into the startxwin files and was as > assured to find twm (which I guessed correctly is > an X display mgr) commented out. > > I uncommented it and when XWin restarted > my xterms and xclock were moveable. > > But I didn't like twm because the extremity of my > X habits tends to pile up lots of windows > and would have me a hard time searching for them > without a desktop window locater. Which led me > to install wmaker. > Actually, the MultiWindow mode is nicer; it wraps windows to be managed by the native Win32 window manager, and also gets rid of the "extra desktop" root window. ... > Or get a little more screwy, > start x server on my laptop cygwin, > throw wmaker from my win2k box to my laptop, > login to sun box and throw xterms to my laptop. Sure, that would work just fine. X is well-designed enough to do such things, even if the remote host has a different binary format. You'll never see that from MS... Joe Krahn -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Fri Sep 2 18:06:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:06:00 -0000 Subject: Some diffs to try Message-ID: <431894BE.40102@nc.rr.com> Some diffs to try out: http://joekrahn.homelinux.com/XWin/ Nice patch for windialogs.c icon issues. Removed hard-wired references to "/tmp/XWin.log" Still working on icons a bit. Question: How much should I worry about pre-WinXP compatibility? WinXP accepts ARGB icons. I think Win95/NT/2000 do not. Maybe just try an ARGB icon patch and see if someone can test it? Joe Krahn -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Fri Sep 2 18:43:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:43:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC3F@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC3F@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <43189D18.5030602@nc.rr.com> Soong, SylokeJ wrote: ... > Whom should I ask to modify XWin.exe to allow appending > screens after the X server has started? > =========================================================== This is more of a general X server problem, having been established before the idea of hot-pluggable screens. There is no stadard way to add or remove screens in the X11 protocol. Even resizing an existing screen is a new feature for X. In Reflection, is the 2nd screen 'live' but not always visible? But, why have two actual screens instead of one large virtual screen? If you don't want to lose your WIn32 desktop space, why not go rootless or MultiWIndow mode? If you want the X desktop space, it would probably be possible to use RANDR to allow dynamic resizing of one screen to fill one or both Win32 Displays. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org Fri Sep 2 19:35:00 2005 From: Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org (Ruth Ivimey-Cook) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:35:00 -0000 Subject: RDP issues Message-ID: Folks, It's not particularly bothering me, but I thought I'd let you know that the following scenario fails: Set up xwin talking to remote linux server on machine A Use rdesktop or windows remote desktop to view A's screen from machine B The pixels on machine B are all "stretched", and you can't really read anything. Of course, the view from A's screen is fine. Ruth -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Fri Sep 2 20:07:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 20:07:00 -0000 Subject: How to have more than one X display? Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC43@exchangema.allegromicro.com> It's the IDE mindset. I have two/more projects whose windows I prefer to be completely segregated. I could use wmaker multiple desktops to achieve that. However, I prefer a complete segregation. Especially when it involves two versions of the same project. Need to prevent myself from inadvertently moving a window onto another desktop. The files of the two versions would be of such similarity that I had edited one version with modification intended for another. Rootless would excercebate (how the h*** do you spell this!) that. My dream xdm: Tabs to separate multiple X screens. Like a multi-desktop but the tabs are managed by xdm not xwm. I know I am cluttering my X?M terminology. I mean, xwin=xdm, wmaker=xwm. I'm sorry I'm not aware what RANDR is and therefore am a little blurry-eyed about that. I'm not sure if Reflection has its configured but uninvoked screen as actually an active window parked far off into the edges of the galaxy. But my impression feels it is not so, as I had not found it in process/window listing utility I once ran. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joe Krahn ... In Reflection, is the 2nd screen 'live' but not always visible? But, why have two actual screens instead of one large virtual screen? If you don't want to lose your WIn32 desktop space, why not go rootless or MultiWIndow mode? If you want the X desktop space, it would probably be possible to use RANDR to allow dynamic resizing of one screen to fill one or both Win32 Displays. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Brian.Willis@noaa.gov Fri Sep 2 21:00:00 2005 From: Brian.Willis@noaa.gov (Brian Willis) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:00:00 -0000 Subject: Facename fonts vs XLFD fonts Message-ID: <4318BD69.8050408@noaa.gov> I have an application that by default looks for the Facename font ncenb14. I can over ride the setting by using the Xdefaults and specifying the XLFD (X Logical Font Description) instead. While this works, it's not the ideal situation. I would rather it just found the Facename name by default. This application's fonts work fine when you run it from a Linux or HP console, but not when forwarded back to Cygwin. I tested with xterm to make sure that it could find the font name. When I used the -fn switch it wouldn't find the xcenb14 font, but when I used the -fa it would. Is there a way to make Cygwin look at the Facename and the XLFD? I tried finding some documentation on how X uses fonts and searches for them but really couldn't find much. If anyone has some really good references, let me know also. Brian Willis OHD System Admin NWS/NOAA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Fri Sep 2 23:15:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:15:00 -0000 Subject: GetDC(NULL), GetModuleHandle(NULL), etc. Message-ID: <4318DD2B.5010805@nc.rr.com> There are several GetDC(NULL) statements. Should these really be GetDC(hwndScreen)? It might make a difference for two screens with different pixel layouts. GetModuleHandle(NULL) is also in several places. Maybe it's OK, but why not use the hInstance global? These probably are just too low on the importance list for now. But, I thought it was worth mentioning. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Fri Sep 2 23:58:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:58:00 -0000 Subject: Some diffs to try Message-ID: <200509022358.j82NwNcX005913@StraightRunning.com> Hi, I'll try out your diff's (I build mainly for Xming.exe), am looking for a solution that names everything appropriate for Cygwin/X and Xming projects (no hard wiring). I've got my own private patches that build for log files and screens etc. named for Xming (e.g. about, exit, Xwinrc to Xmingrc)..a bit of #idef..ing will make them more universal, I'll merge your diffs and play..when I have time! Try the icon ARGB stuff anyway..I know cygwin supports all Windows versions..but MS don't, and sometimes it's hard to not let go and move on at the same time! Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From keenerb@roleplayga.org Sat Sep 3 04:29:00 2005 From: keenerb@roleplayga.org (Brian Keener) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 04:29:00 -0000 Subject: Mouse scroll wheel acts as left arrow/right arrow. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4319268D.80609@roleplayga.org> >On Thursday, September 01 at 01:35, Brian Keener wrote: > > >>I have a microsoft mouse with a scroll wheel that scrolls both up and >>down, and left/right. The up/down scrolling action seems to act as >>left/right arrows. >> >>In firefox, using the scroll wheel goes back/forwards a page, for an >>example. >> >>Any idea what to do to fix this? >> >>Brian K >> >> > >If this behaviour is consistent across all X applications, you could >try using xmodmap: > >First, use xev to identify which button numbers are associated with the >up, down, left & right movements. Let's say these are 4, 5, 6 & 7 >respectively. If you want the up "button" swapping with left, and >down swapping with right, you would enter: > >xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" > >you can use xmodmap -pp to verify the change. You should see >something like this: > >$ xmodmap -pp >There are 7 pointer buttons defined. > > Physical Button > Button Code > 1 1 > 2 2 > 3 3 > 4 6 > 5 7 > 6 4 > 7 5 > >I can't guarantee that this will work with XWin, but this technique >works for xorg on Linux, so it's likely to be OK. > >HTH > >Phil > > Worked like a charm, Phil. Thanks. Brian K -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Sun Sep 4 04:10:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff Message-ID: <431A73AA.5010307@nc.rr.com> I didn't get around to finishing ARGB type icons yet, but here's some related patches for MultiWindow mode. See icon_and_class.diff at http://joekrahn.homelinux.com/XWin/ The code was changed to use a single Window class for all windows. Icon changes are sent to the Window instead of changing Class icons (much more reliable). With custom icons, the small icon is left undefined. MS-Windows will generate the small one for us. This will change with NET_WM_ICON support, which can define multiple icons. The horizontal-line mask problem is fixed. This came from using 32-bit aligne bitmap data, but creating device-dependent bitmaps which are 16-bit aligned. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Sun Sep 4 10:59:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:59:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff Message-ID: <200509041059.j84Ax8tI005847@StraightRunning.com> Hi, All your diffs seem to work almost correctly (see below), but still testing. In windialogs.c:- Should SM_CXICONSM be SM_CXSMICON, SM_CYICONSM be SM_CYSMICON ? Also had to remove the conditional on XWIN_MULTIWINDOW to get X icons i.e. --- my_windialogs.c 2005-09-03 22:36:08.000000000 +0100 +++ windialogs.c 2005-09-04 11:44:22.000000000 +0100 @@ -213,18 +213,13 @@ 0, 0, SWP_NOSIZE); -#if defined(XWIN_MULTIWINDOW) - hIcon = g_hIconX; - hIconSmall = g_hSmallIconX; -#else - hIcon = LoadIcon (g_hInstance, MAKEINTRESOURCE(IDI_XWIN))); + hIcon = LoadIcon (g_hInstance, MAKEINTRESOURCE(IDI_XWIN)); hIconSmall = LoadImage (g_hInstance, MAKEINTRESOURCE(IDI_XWIN), IMAGE_ICON, - GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXICONSM), - GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYICONSM), - LR_SHARED)); -#endif + GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXSMICON), + GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYSMICON), + LR_SHARED); PostMessage (hwndDlg, WM_SETICON, ICON_BIG, (LPARAM) hIcon); PostMessage (hwndDlg, WM_SETICON, ICON_SMALL, (LPARAM) hIconSmall); In winmultiwindowwindow.c:- Get some unused variables warnings, I just removed them:- --- my_winmultiwindowwindow.c 2005-09-04 11:13:28.000000000 +0100 +++ winmultiwindowwindow.c 2005-09-04 11:14:32.000000000 +0100 @@ -520,10 +520,6 @@ winWindowPriv(pWin); HICON hIcon; HICON hIconSmall; -#define CLASS_NAME_LENGTH 512 - char pszClass[CLASS_NAME_LENGTH], pszWindowID[12]; - char *res_name, *res_class, *res_role; - static int s_iWindowID = 0; winPrivScreenPtr pScreenPriv = pWinPriv->pScreenPriv; WinXSizeHints hints; @@ -610,11 +606,6 @@ { MSG msg; winWindowPriv(pWin); - HICON hiconClass; - HICON hiconSmClass; - HMODULE hInstance; - int iReturn; - char pszClass[512]; BOOL oldstate = winInDestroyWindowsWindow; #if CYGMULTIWINDOW_DEBUG In winmultiwindowicons.c (LPARAM) cast missing in > hIconOld = (HICON) SendMessage (pWinPriv->hWnd, > WM_SETICON, ICON_SMALL, hIconSmall); We probably need to work through bugzilla to get these changes into the xorg tree? Thanks Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Sep 4 11:52:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: GetDC(NULL), GetModuleHandle(NULL), etc. In-Reply-To: <4318DD2B.5010805@nc.rr.com> References: <4318DD2B.5010805@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Joe Krahn wrote: > GetModuleHandle(NULL) is also in several places. Maybe it's OK, but why > not use the hInstance global? Global variables are bad(TM). With GetModuleHandle(NULL) there is no need to maintain a global hInstance. The other reason is there is no WinMain which has the hInstance parameter. So you'd require to set the global hInstance somewhere else and you have to make sure this occurs before the first reference to hInstance. GetModuleHandle(NULL) was used explicitly to reduce complexity. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Sun Sep 4 17:40:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:40:00 -0000 Subject: GetDC(NULL), GetModuleHandle(NULL), etc. In-Reply-To: References: <4318DD2B.5010805@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <431B3185.1030003@nc.rr.com> Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Joe Krahn wrote: > > >>GetModuleHandle(NULL) is also in several places. Maybe it's OK, but why >>not use the hInstance global? > > > Global variables are bad(TM). With GetModuleHandle(NULL) there is no need > to maintain a global hInstance. The other reason is there is no WinMain > which has the hInstance parameter. So you'd require to set the global > hInstance somewhere else and you have to make sure this occurs before > the first reference to hInstance. GetModuleHandle(NULL) was used explicitly > to reduce complexity. > > bye Globals are not really bad(TM), for things that really are global. But, a redundant global is definitely bad, so the global hInstance should be removed instead. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Sun Sep 4 17:51:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:51:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <200509041059.j84Ax8tI005847@StraightRunning.com> References: <200509041059.j84Ax8tI005847@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <431B341A.9040004@nc.rr.com> Colin Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > All your diffs seem to work almost correctly (see below), but still testing. > > In windialogs.c:- > > Should SM_CXICONSM be SM_CXSMICON, SM_CYICONSM be SM_CYSMICON ? > Also had to remove the conditional on XWIN_MULTIWINDOW to get X icons > It looks like that part of the code was #ifdef'ed out for XWIN_MULTIWINDOW. The intent was to use the two global overridable X icons for multiwindow mode, and get icons from the resources for other build modes. Maybe the multi-window mode needs to revert to resource icons if the global icons being undefined. I had set an override icon. As for Bugzilla, I would like to get a few more icon features tested, but maybe it's best to get bug-fixes sent in before trying enhancements. When I use the CVS defaults, only multi-window mode is built, so I didn't see the #ifdef XWIN_MULTIWINDOW code compiled. Why is only one version built? Is it rootless mode that gets excluded? Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Sun Sep 4 18:17:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:17:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff Message-ID: <200509041817.j84IHDbY006164@StraightRunning.com> Joe Krahn wrote: > When I use the CVS defaults, only multi-window mode is built, so I didn't see the #ifdef XWIN_MULTIWINDOW code compiled. Why is only one version built? Is it rootless mode that gets excluded? Mystery to me..the code is loaded with many ifdef's, the use of which is probably 'just-in-case' legacy stuff. Loosing a few as things are changed is maybe a good idea now. I only use GLX built versions and:- start Xwin :%DISNO% -emulate3buttons -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -clipupdates 5 -fp tcp/%XFT%:7100 -xkbmodel pc105 -xkblayout g or start Xwin :%DISNO% -notrayicon -lesspointer -screen 0 1024x768+125+100 -query %XFT% -emulate3buttons -fp tcp/%XFT%:7100 -xkbmodel pc105 -xkblayout gb where XFT is a linux font server and DISTNO is the display 0,1,3 etc So my coding and testing tends not to stray beyond these uses, locales or into 'unix' window managers. All my X windows are also from remote linux clients (typically without graphics cards). Using bugzilla may mop up a few people with broader needs. I've also noticed that recent xorg tree changes blow us out of the water..I just had a problem with Xming loosing xkb stuff for instance, so Xwin changes can be driven from 'outside' this list's scope, even if we change nothing! Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Sun Sep 4 22:45:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:45:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <200509041817.j84IHDbY006164@StraightRunning.com> References: <200509041817.j84IHDbY006164@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <431B78F8.6000009@nc.rr.com> Colin Harrison wrote: > Joe Krahn wrote: > > >>When I use the CVS defaults, only multi-window mode is built, so I didn't >> see the #ifdef XWIN_MULTIWINDOW code compiled. Why is only one version >> built? Is it rootless mode that gets excluded? > > Mystery to me..the code is loaded with many ifdef's, the use of which is > probably 'just-in-case' legacy stuff. > Loosing a few as things are changed is maybe a good idea now. > I was wondering about things like global icons (g_hIcon) which are #ifdef'ed in shared code to be used with XWIN_MULTIWINDOW, yet only the multiwindow code sets these icons. I guess there's a need for a round of overall code clean up. But, it works right now, so the incentive is small. It seems to me that it needs: 1) A review of globals, with true globals being made uniform across the root-window[less] modes, and other not-so-globals made non-global. 2) Get rid of unused 'legacy' #ifdef code. 3) Decide if Win95/Me/NT/2000 need continued support. 4) Reorganize files: get rid of the common win- prefix, and replace mode-specific prefixes with a directory, so "xwin/winmultiwindowicons.c" becomes "xwin/multiwindow/icons.c". I think these could be done successfully without too much effort. But, these need some maintainer decisions first. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From fn42551@fmi.uni-sofia.bg Mon Sep 5 05:43:00 2005 From: fn42551@fmi.uni-sofia.bg (Angel Tsankov) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:43:00 -0000 Subject: Batch conversion between vector graphics? Message-ID: <000a01c5b1dc$abcdf450$cf34000a@sven> Does cygwin include an application suitable for batch conversion of .fig files to .eps? If so, what is it? Angel Tsankov fn42551@fmi.uni-sofia.bg -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From swp5jhu02@sneakemail.com Mon Sep 5 06:05:00 2005 From: swp5jhu02@sneakemail.com (Peter Valdemar Morch) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 06:05:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <431B78F8.6000009@nc.rr.com> References: <200509041817.j84IHDbY006164@StraightRunning.com> <431B78F8.6000009@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <27663-67672@sneakemail.com> Joe Krahn jkrahn-at-nc.rr.com |Lists| wrote: > 3) Decide if Win95/Me/NT/2000 need continued support. Win 2000 - yes please... Peter -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Mon Sep 5 06:59:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 06:59:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff Message-ID: <200509050659.j856xAdl008586@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Joe Krahn wrote: > 3) Decide if Win95/Me/NT/2000 need continued support. Cygwin has dropped Me, Microsoft 95/98 (support 'till Jun 2006) and NT (dead now even if you pay). Typical Microsoft, though...you have to read loads of pages of guff until you can guess at the true story! Anyone tried Xwin/Xming on Vista? And then there is the possibility that loads of people may abandon Microsoft desktops when/if Apple move to Intel processors on cheap machines, or Gnome and/or KDE become de rigueur (pigs may fly). I vote for coding/maintenance for 2000/2003/XP and Vista for the time being, and can only test on 2003/XP. Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Sep 5 09:11:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 09:11:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <431B341A.9040004@nc.rr.com> References: <200509041059.j84Ax8tI005847@StraightRunning.com> <431B341A.9040004@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Sep 2005, Joe Krahn wrote: > When I use the CVS defaults, only multi-window mode is built, so I > didn't see the #ifdef XWIN_MULTIWINDOW code compiled. Why is only one > version built? Is it rootless mode that gets excluded? XWin has basicly 3 operation modes. windowed (includes -rootless and -fullscreen) -multiwindow -externalwm and -internalwm With rootless there is a name clash between the option -rootless (which does hide the root window only) and the XServer rootless extension. The rootless extension assigns every window its own small framebuffer rather than a global one which occupies the whole screen. so the XWIN_MULTIWINDOW refers to code specific to -multiwindow. XWIN_MULTIWINDOWEXTWM refers to the externalwm and internalwm code and the rootless extension. The rootless code is still not ready since it does crash easily because of memory access faults so it's not enable by default. Removing multiwindow support has also been handy when I ported to mingw and had no threads support. Disabling multiwindow and clipboard support also removed the pthread dependency. bye ago BTW: We always tried to maintain support for all windows systems until Win95 by providing alternative code paths if available. The GetProcAddress feature does help a lot. You should check out the code for EnumDisplayMonitors how this can be achieved. -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Mon Sep 5 11:17:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:17:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff Message-ID: <200509051116.j85BGOlJ029938@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Another decision is what executables and dlls are built in distributions? Do we provide:- 1) Support for GL and Mesa only by two builds (current situation), where GL version is faster but less universally applicable? 2) Support for builds of both Xwin and Xming from the same source tree? 3) Additional specialist builds...I do my own xc/config/cf file changes, for instance, to optimise for Pentium processors and performance/codesize (~40% improvements easily made)? In the long run xorg is becoming modular (moving away from the original monolithic structure, we build against), should this be taken on board sooner or later? Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Sep 5 12:39:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <200509051116.j85BGOlJ029938@StraightRunning.com> References: <200509051116.j85BGOlJ029938@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Colin Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > Another decision is what executables and dlls are built in distributions? > > Do we provide:- About the current status: > 1) Support for GL and Mesa only by two builds (current situation), where GL > version is faster but less universally applicable? There is ongoing work to add a layer between xserver glx code and the OpenGL library (native or mesa) which will make it possibe to switch at runtime. The current code requires this decision at build/link time > 2) Support for builds of both Xwin and Xming from the same source tree? It is already possible. The CYGWIN branch on freedesktop is only used for creating stable releases while the HEAD branch includes newer features like the internalwm code and some changes to the multiwindow code but were still evolving. Xming is built from HEAD because it required some changes to the code which I did not wanted to backport to the CYGWIN branch. > 3) Additional specialist builds...I do my own xc/config/cf file changes, for > instance, to optimise for Pentium processors and performance/codesize (~40% > improvements easily made)? > > In the long run xorg is becoming modular (moving away from the original > monolithic structure, we build against), should this be taken on board > sooner or later? Some work is already done for building XWin from the modular tree but it is not working as expected. There will be a 6.9 _and_ 7.0 release the next months where the feature set and code is identical but the build system is different. With the current status only the 6.9 release will work for Cygwin but the monolithic tree will get abandoned in the next releases so following the modular path is a strict requirement. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Mon Sep 5 15:52:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:52:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <200509050659.j856xAdl008586@StraightRunning.com> References: <200509050659.j856xAdl008586@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <20050905155206.GE609@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 07:59:19AM +0100, Colin Harrison wrote: >Joe Krahn wrote: >>3) Decide if Win95/Me/NT/2000 need continued support. > >Cygwin has dropped Me, Microsoft 95/98 (support 'till Jun 2006) and NT >(dead now even if you pay). I think you mean Microsoft has dropped the above. Cygwin still supports them. We don't mirror Microsoft wrt what we support. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Mon Sep 5 16:40:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:40:00 -0000 Subject: setup PATH variable by PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin In-Reply-To: <0IM50040ACYCYW@pmismtp02.mcilink.com> References: <0IM50040ACYCYW@pmismtp02.mcilink.com> Message-ID: Ugh, top-posting. Reformatted... On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Mark Paulus wrote: > On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:33:23 -0400 (EDT), PoWah Wong wrote: > > >I want to setup my PATH variable by following the > >instructions of "Chapter 4. Using Cygwin/X, section > >startx" at http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html. > > > >After doing > >PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > >my original path is lost. > > > >I use windows XP SP2. > >[snip] > > The statement should read: > PATH=%PATH%:/usr/X11R6/bin > > Note the trailing % on PATH. That is a "Windowism". No, actually, since the example is in a shell, the statement should read PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" (note the quotes and the '$'). I'd update the HTML in CVS, but it looks like a generated file, and I couldn't find the source. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Mon Sep 5 16:54:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:54:00 -0000 Subject: Batch conversion between vector graphics? In-Reply-To: <000a01c5b1dc$abcdf450$cf34000a@sven> References: <000a01c5b1dc$abcdf450$cf34000a@sven> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Angel Tsankov wrote: > Does cygwin include an application suitable for batch conversion of .fig > files to .eps? If so, what is it? fig2dev, in the "transfig" package. Granted, transfig could use a better description in the installer... HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Mon Sep 5 17:17:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:17:00 -0000 Subject: Unknown keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <2D0BC91ED1467D42AD0F5F735BD1FDB19B99AE@EUREDM-MXU12.eur.alcoa.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Husz??r, L??szl?? wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've found these lines in my log file: > > (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "0000040E" (0000040e) > > (EE) Keyboardlayout "Hungarian" (0000040E) is unknown > > > > Would you be so kind to help me ? > > The hungarian layout is detected since February 2005. You should update > XWin. > > FollowUp to cygwin at cygwin dot com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Why? Doesn't this belong on cygwin-xfree instead? Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From fn42551@fmi.uni-sofia.bg Mon Sep 5 18:18:00 2005 From: fn42551@fmi.uni-sofia.bg (Angel Tsankov) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:18:00 -0000 Subject: xfig 3.2.4 does not use settings from previous session Message-ID: <000301c5b246$2f28e030$cf34000a@sven> Do I have to change the settings every time I start xfig or is there any way to save the settings? Angel Tsankov fn42551@fmi.uni-sofia.bg -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Mon Sep 5 19:59:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:59:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <200509051116.j85BGOlJ029938@StraightRunning.com> References: <200509051116.j85BGOlJ029938@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <431CA398.6000200@nc.rr.com> Colin Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > Another decision is what executables and dlls are built in distributions? > > Do we provide:- > > 1) Support for GL and Mesa only by two builds (current situation), where GL > version is faster but less universally applicable? There should be one build with both renderers, handled just like Indirect/Mesa versus DRI in other X servers. > 2) Support for builds of both Xwin and Xming from the same source tree? That will need separate versions of every object file, right? That is hard to do with the current design, but I have set up some Makefiles to prefix binary output files for multiple builds. I think this set up should really be more common, so one can build a Debug or Release versions without starting from scratch. > 3) Additional specialist builds...I do my own xc/config/cf file changes, for > instance, to optimise for Pentium processors and performance/codesize (~40% > improvements easily made)? I think these types of tweaks are supposed to be confined to site.def if the main .cf is done right, but it seems that nobody distributes multiple example site.defs. This probably fits into the multiple-build Makefile idea. > > In the long run xorg is becoming modular (moving away from the original > monolithic structure, we build against), should this be taken on board > sooner or later? I would say later. As long as things get tweaked, Cygwin is likely to get a lot of incompatible changes. Best to wait until it is very stable. But, meanwhile, code additions and clean-ups should keep modularization in mind. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Mon Sep 5 20:00:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:00:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff In-Reply-To: <27663-67672@sneakemail.com> References: <200509041817.j84IHDbY006164@StraightRunning.com> <431B78F8.6000009@nc.rr.com> <27663-67672@sneakemail.com> Message-ID: <431CA3EB.6000301@nc.rr.com> Peter Valdemar Morch wrote: > Joe Krahn jkrahn-at-nc.rr.com |Lists| wrote: > >> 3) Decide if Win95/Me/NT/2000 need continued support. > > > Win 2000 - yes please... > OK, I was thinking this might be the one case where it may be needed for a while. Can you build and/or test code changes? Thanks, Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Sep 6 10:43:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:43:00 -0000 Subject: Unknown keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <2D0BC91ED1467D42AD0F5F735BD1FDB19B99AE@EUREDM-MXU12.eur.alcoa.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > FollowUp to cygwin at cygwin dot com > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Why? Doesn't this belong on cygwin-xfree instead? Pure stupidity :( I don't know what I had in mind when I wrote this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Tue Sep 6 11:19:00 2005 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: New Cygwin/X maintainer Message-ID: <20050906111938.GA11921@calimero.vinschen.de> May I introduce... Alan Hourihane has now officially taken over the job as our new Cygwin/X maintainer. We just have to put his access permissions to sourceware into place, but otherwise, that's it. Congratulations and a *big* thank you for taking over, Alan! Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Brian.Willis@noaa.gov Tue Sep 6 12:45:00 2005 From: Brian.Willis@noaa.gov (Brian Willis) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:45:00 -0000 Subject: Facename fonts vs XLFD fonts Message-ID: <431D8F77.4010505@noaa.gov> I have an application that by default looks for the Facename font ncenb14. I can over ride the setting by using the Xdefaults and specifying the XLFD (X Logical Font Description) instead. While this works, it's not the ideal situation. I would rather it just found the Facename name by default. This application's fonts work fine when you run it from a Linux or HP console, but not when forwarded back to Cygwin. I tested with xterm to make sure that it could find the font name. When I used the -fn switch it wouldn't find the xcenb14 font, but when I used the -fa it would. Is there a way to make Cygwin look at the Facename and the XLFD? I tried finding some documentation on how X uses fonts and searches for them but really couldn't find much. If anyone has some really good references, let me know also. Brian Willis OHD System Admin NWS/NOAA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Tue Sep 6 13:09:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:09:00 -0000 Subject: New Cygwin/X maintainer In-Reply-To: <20050906111938.GA11921@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20050906111938.GA11921@calimero.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <20050906130912.GA28707@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:19:38PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >May I introduce... > >Alan Hourihane has now officially taken over the job as our new Cygwin/X >maintainer. We just have to put his access permissions to sourceware >into place, but otherwise, that's it. > >Congratulations and a *big* thank you for taking over, Alan! Mega dittos from me! cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From derek@ximbiot.com Tue Sep 6 20:37:00 2005 From: derek@ximbiot.com (Derek Price) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:37:00 -0000 Subject: ssh launched from xterm still running after xterm killed on Cygwin Message-ID: <431DFDD8.5060202@ximbiot.com> When I launch ssh sessions from xterms and exit them via the command line, the processes go away, but if I just kill the xterm window an ssh was launched from via a mouse click, the ssh.exe hangs around taking up system resources until I kill it via the task manager, if I can figure out which ssh.exes are the zombies. The same problem *does not* occur from a simple bash shell window (launched via C:\cygwin\bin\bash --login -i). Closing this bash shell does properly kill the ssh session, so I expect this problem will end up having something to do with xterm. This is with the latest Cygwin (upgraded a few minutes ago via the kernel.org mirror) on Windows NT SP2 with all the latest updates. Output of `cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out' attached. (Incidentally, my ssh-agents also keep running, though I *like* that - it means that the following script doesn't care if I exit the original bash-shell: export SSH_AUTH_SOCK=$HOME/.ssh-agent/`hostname`-ssh-auth-sock if test -d "$HOME/.ssh-agent"; then :; else mkdir "$HOME/.ssh-agent" fi if ssh-add -l >/dev/null 2>&1; then :; else rm "$SSH_AUTH_SOCK" fi if test -S "$SSH_AUTH_SOCK"; then :; else ssh-agent -a "$SSH_AUTH_SOCK" ssh-add fi But I suppose there will be some way to get that behavior back via nohup or whatever if this gets fixed.) Please CC me with any response since I am not a member of these lists. Regards, Derek -- Derek R. Price CVS Solutions Architect Ximbiot v: +1 717.579.6168 f: +1 717.234.3125 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: cygcheck.out URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Wed Sep 7 02:37:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:37:00 -0000 Subject: MultiWindow versus MWExtWM Message-ID: <431E5243.1040500@nc.rr.com> What is the history of internal versus external Win32 WMs? It seems that Cygwin/X is favoring the internal WM, even though the external WM is a better fit to the X server design. I was looking into adding some NET_WM/EWMH features (mainly icons for now), and realized that most things have to be done differently on an internal WM, meaning extra work making non-reusable code. The current external WM is implemented using a proper X extension, which might be the source of some problems with the external WM. Maybe an efficient solution for the external WM would be to use WndProc hooks, so that window message passing can be done natively instead of through an X extension. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mso2@uiuc.edu Wed Sep 7 05:00:00 2005 From: mso2@uiuc.edu (MikeSo) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 05:00:00 -0000 Subject: startx wont start xterm window Message-ID: <4d19cb53.37e47b8a.822d700@expms5.cites.uiuc.edu> i installed cygwin with no problems at all but when i type "startx" after opening cygwin, nothing happens. i get some text but no xterm window will pop up. ive googled and searched the archives but have had trouble finding anything similar to my problem. below is the log. thanks in advance for any help mso2@USERERROR1 ~ $ startx Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/T T F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/C ID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1440 height: 900 depth: 32 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=250, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From zephod@drizzle.com Wed Sep 7 05:22:00 2005 From: zephod@drizzle.com (billh) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 05:22:00 -0000 Subject: MultiWindow versus MWExtWM In-Reply-To: <431E5243.1040500@nc.rr.com> References: <431E5243.1040500@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <431E79E5.3070003@drizzle.com> Any discussion of internal vs external window management cannot take place without acknowledging the fact that we are talking about XWindows operating within another window system, Cygwin/X. The immediate fact here is that any action that a window manager takes that is synchronous to the actions of the clients, such as on an xterm resize, when the window manager may inforce an incremental sizing based on the character width or heighth has to be handled in the window proc of the X server running as a Windows client, otherwise the sequence of events cannot be the same as in a native X Windows environment. In the case of window resizing, the first order solution has the window being resized to any arbitrary size by the Windows window system, and then a second event where an external window manager would resize the window to a size based on window hints registered with the X Window system. Though this can happen very quickly, there are always side effects typically in older programs that are perhaps more reliant on past behavior of X and even in some cases certain window managers. Okay, I'll fess up. I used to work for WRQ on the ReflectionX server. We found that in fact there were financial reasons, meaning enough customers, to support both approaches. Some customers wanted a more Windows centric look and feel and some needed for compatibility reasons an X window manager. I ported GWM to our environment and my associate Kyle went through the ICCCM documents and made our Windows management mode honor all of that documents guidelines for window management. This gave us both modes at the flip of a switch in the control interface gui. For a commercial product, we could justify both. THings may have changed, but i tend to doubt it. PS This is offered in the spirit of openness. I am not saying that you should 'go commercial' for your X in Windows needs. Actually I am currently working on a Linux on Windows product that has its own X Server port via a frame buffer driver. Very cool! Don't port your Linux code, run it natively!!! Joe Krahn wrote: > What is the history of internal versus external Win32 WMs? It seems > that Cygwin/X is favoring the internal WM, even though the external WM > is a better fit to the X server design. > > I was looking into adding some NET_WM/EWMH features (mainly icons for > now), and realized that most things have to be done differently on an > internal WM, meaning extra work making non-reusable code. > > The current external WM is implemented using a proper X extension, > which might be the source of some problems with the external WM. Maybe > an efficient solution for the external WM would be to use WndProc > hooks, so that window message passing can be done natively instead of > through an X extension. > > Joe > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Wed Sep 7 16:46:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:46:00 -0000 Subject: MultiWindow versus MWExtWM In-Reply-To: <431E79E5.3070003@drizzle.com> References: <431E5243.1040500@nc.rr.com> <431E79E5.3070003@drizzle.com> Message-ID: <431F192D.2020004@nc.rr.com> billh wrote: > Any discussion of internal vs external window management cannot take > place without acknowledging the fact that we are talking about XWindows > operating within another window system, Cygwin/X. The immediate fact > here is that any action that a window manager takes that is synchronous > to the actions of the clients, such as on an xterm resize, when the > window manager may inforce an incremental sizing based on the character > width or heighth has to be handled in the window proc of the X server > running as a Windows client, otherwise the sequence of events cannot be > the same as in a native X Windows environment. In the case of window > resizing, the first order solution has the window being resized to any > arbitrary size by the Windows window system, and then a second event > where an external window manager would resize the window to a size based > on window hints registered with the X Window system. Though this can > happen very quickly, there are always side effects typically in older > programs that are perhaps more reliant on past behavior of X and even in > some cases certain window managers. > Okay, I'll fess up. I used to work for WRQ on the ReflectionX > server. We found that in fact there were financial reasons, meaning > enough customers, to support both approaches. Some customers wanted a > more Windows centric look and feel and some needed for compatibility > reasons an X window manager. I'm not trying to discuss Win32 WM-proxy versus a true X Window Manager. I'm simply comparing how the Win32 WM is implemented. I think most people would prefer using the Win32 WM, if there were no compatibilty problems. (BTW: what types of compatibilyt problems were there?) What I am aiming toward is Windows-managed windows, but proxied in a way that works more like a native X window manager. This means that most of the WndProc handling needs to be handled by "Window Manager" code. That's why I suggested WndProc Hooking. > > I ported GWM to our environment and my associate Kyle went through the > ICCCM documents and made our Windows management mode honor all of that > documents guidelines for window management. This gave us both modes at > the flip of a switch in the control interface gui. For a commercial > product, we could justify both. My idea is that WndProc hooking can allow you to turn the internal WM on or off by adding/removing WndProc hooks (or possibly internal "hooks".) I'm just suggesting that using the external WM approach will simplify the code; it's rather messy right now. > > THings may have changed, but i tend to doubt it. > PS > > This is offered in the spirit of openness. I am not saying that you > should 'go commercial' for your X in Windows needs. Actually I am > currently working on a Linux on Windows product that has its own X > Server port via a frame buffer driver. Very cool! Don't port your > Linux code, run it natively!!! > > Joe Krahn wrote: > >> What is the history of internal versus external Win32 WMs? It seems >> that Cygwin/X is favoring the internal WM, even though the external WM >> is a better fit to the X server design. >> >> I was looking into adding some NET_WM/EWMH features (mainly icons for >> now), and realized that most things have to be done differently on an >> internal WM, meaning extra work making non-reusable code. >> >> The current external WM is implemented using a proper X extension, >> which might be the source of some problems with the external WM. Maybe >> an efficient solution for the external WM would be to use WndProc >> hooks, so that window message passing can be done natively instead of >> through an X extension. >> >> Joe >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >> Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >> FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ >> >> > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin-x-lh@cygwin.com Wed Sep 7 19:52:00 2005 From: cygwin-x-lh@cygwin.com (Larry Hall) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:52:00 -0000 Subject: startx wont start xterm window In-Reply-To: <4d19cb53.37e47b8a.822d700@expms5.cites.uiuc.edu> References: <4d19cb53.37e47b8a.822d700@expms5.cites.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050907155043.04743270@pop.prospeed.net> At 01:00 AM 9/7/2005, you wrote >i installed cygwin with no problems at all but when i >type "startx" after opening cygwin, nothing happens. i get >some text but no xterm window will pop up. ive googled and >searched the archives but have had trouble finding anything >similar to my problem. below is the log. thanks in advance >for any help > > >mso2@USERERROR1 ~ >$ startx If you don't want to do additional configuration, the command your looking for is 'startxwin.sh'. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Sep 8 00:38:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:38:00 -0000 Subject: X announcements Message-ID: I seem to recall some discussion about why X announcements weren't forwarded to this list from cygwin-xfree-announce (the way they are to the main Cygwin list from cygwin-announce), but can't find it at the moment. Could someone refresh my memory? Are the reasons still relevant? Thanks, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Thu Sep 8 01:10:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 01:10:00 -0000 Subject: Server design Message-ID: <431F8F96.2060409@nc.rr.com> I cam across this description of an X server design within windows: http://research.compaq.com/wrl/DECarchives/DTJ/DTJL03/DTJL03.HTM It has a Win32 WM interface that is functionally seperate, and uses Win32 Hooks to proxy Win32 WndProc messages; essentially the same as I recently suggested. It is sort of between the current MultiWindow and MWExtWM modes. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From zephod@drizzle.com Thu Sep 8 04:43:00 2005 From: zephod@drizzle.com (billh) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 04:43:00 -0000 Subject: MultiWindow versus MWExtWM In-Reply-To: <431F192D.2020004@nc.rr.com> References: <431E5243.1040500@nc.rr.com> <431E79E5.3070003@drizzle.com> <431F192D.2020004@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <431FC241.3080301@drizzle.com> The issues that arose over the six or seven years were various and particular to each application that some customer was dependent upon. One class of problems you could describe as a clash between window managers, Windows and X . This could easily occur for modal popup windows, override redirect, always on top(Windows) and just the general problem of trying to maintain focus in various focus policies that might conflict between the two management styles. Focus fights were fun to watch... Joe Krahn wrote: > billh wrote: > >> Any discussion of internal vs external window management cannot take >> place without acknowledging the fact that we are talking about >> XWindows operating within another window system, Cygwin/X. The >> immediate fact here is that any action that a window manager takes >> that is synchronous to the actions of the clients, such as on an >> xterm resize, when the window manager may inforce an incremental >> sizing based on the character width or heighth has to be handled in >> the window proc of the X server running as a Windows client, >> otherwise the sequence of events cannot be the same as in a native X >> Windows environment. In the case of window resizing, the first order >> solution has the window being resized to any arbitrary size by the >> Windows window system, and then a second event where an external >> window manager would resize the window to a size based on window >> hints registered with the X Window system. Though this can happen >> very quickly, there are always side effects typically in older >> programs that are perhaps more reliant on past behavior of X and even >> in some cases certain window managers. >> Okay, I'll fess up. I used to work for WRQ on the ReflectionX >> server. We found that in fact there were financial reasons, meaning >> enough customers, to support both approaches. Some customers wanted >> a more Windows centric look and feel and some needed for >> compatibility reasons an X window manager. > > I'm not trying to discuss Win32 WM-proxy versus a true X Window > Manager. I'm simply comparing how the Win32 WM is implemented. I think > most people would prefer using the Win32 WM, if there were no > compatibilty problems. (BTW: what types of compatibilyt problems were > there?) > > What I am aiming toward is Windows-managed windows, but proxied in a > way that works more like a native X window manager. This means that > most of the WndProc handling needs to be handled by "Window Manager" > code. That's why I suggested WndProc Hooking. > > >> >> I ported GWM to our environment and my associate Kyle went through >> the ICCCM documents and made our Windows management mode honor all of >> that documents guidelines for window management. This gave us both >> modes at the flip of a switch in the control interface gui. For a >> commercial product, we could justify both. > > My idea is that WndProc hooking can allow you to turn the internal WM > on or off by adding/removing WndProc hooks (or possibly internal > "hooks".) > > I'm just suggesting that using the external WM approach will simplify > the code; it's rather messy right now. > >> >> THings may have changed, but i tend to doubt it. >> PS >> >> This is offered in the spirit of openness. I am not saying that you >> should 'go commercial' for your X in Windows needs. Actually I am >> currently working on a Linux on Windows product that has its own X >> Server port via a frame buffer driver. Very cool! Don't port your >> Linux code, run it natively!!! >> >> Joe Krahn wrote: >> >>> What is the history of internal versus external Win32 WMs? It seems >>> that Cygwin/X is favoring the internal WM, even though the external >>> WM is a better fit to the X server design. >>> >>> I was looking into adding some NET_WM/EWMH features (mainly icons >>> for now), and realized that most things have to be done differently >>> on an internal WM, meaning extra work making non-reusable code. >>> >>> The current external WM is implemented using a proper X extension, >>> which might be the source of some problems with the external WM. >>> Maybe an efficient solution for the external WM would be to use >>> WndProc hooks, so that window message passing can be done natively >>> instead of through an X extension. >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >>> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >>> Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >>> FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >> Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >> FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ >> > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ericvn@telenet.be Thu Sep 8 12:57:00 2005 From: ericvn@telenet.be (eric.van.nerum@pandora.be) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:57:00 -0000 Subject: new keyboard layout Message-ID: Dear , Can you please add following keyboard layout. Thanks. Eric Van Nerum (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000813" (00000813) (--) Using preset keyboard for "Dutch (Belgian)" (813), type "4" (++) XKB: layout: "be" (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From fedevaps@yahoo.dk Thu Sep 8 14:45:00 2005 From: fedevaps@yahoo.dk (Paminu) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:45:00 -0000 Subject: startx wont start xterm window References: <4d19cb53.37e47b8a.822d700@expms5.cites.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: "MikeSo" skrev i en meddelelse news:4d19cb53.37e47b8a.822d700@expms5.cites.uiuc.edu... >i installed cygwin with no problems at all but when i > type "startx" after opening cygwin, nothing happens. i get > some text but no xterm window will pop up. ive googled and > searched the archives but have had trouble finding anything > similar to my problem. below is the log. thanks in advance > for any help > > > mso2@USERERROR1 ~ > $ startx > > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.2.0-4 > > Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > XWin was started with the following command line: > > X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard > > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to > root > winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 > (II) XF86Config is not supported > (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for > more information > (==) FontPath set > to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/T > T > F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/C > ID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/ > X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines > 00000007 > winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI > winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of > 32 bits per pixel > winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1440 > height: 900 depth: 32 > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff > winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff > BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > null screen fn ReparentWindow > null screen fn RestackWindow > InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init > InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned > InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init > InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned > winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello > winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled > due to lack of shar > ed memory support in the kernel > (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=250, rate=31 > (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) > (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), > type "4" > Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant > = "(null)" Options = "(null > )" Either don't use wmaker or remove or remove -multiwindow from this line in /usr/X11R6/bin/startx defaultserverargs="-multiwindow -clipboard" -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From fedevaps@yahoo.dk Thu Sep 8 16:39:00 2005 From: fedevaps@yahoo.dk (Paminu) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:39:00 -0000 Subject: Bad font in KDE for cygwin Message-ID: I have installed KDE for cygwin, but the desktop fonts are ugly: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3626/1346/1600/kde.jpg any ideas on how to fix this? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Thu Sep 8 16:45:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:45:00 -0000 Subject: Bad font in KDE for cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050908164520.GA12019@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:31:09PM +0200, Paminu wrote: >I have installed KDE for cygwin, but the desktop fonts are ugly: > >http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3626/1346/1600/kde.jpg > >any ideas on how to fix this? KDE for cygwin should have it's own forum. It isn't supported here since it isn't an official Cygwin package. Sorry. -- Christopher Faylor spammer? -> aaaspam@sourceware.org Cygwin Co-Project Leader aaaspam@duffek.com TimeSys, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Thu Sep 8 18:20:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:20:00 -0000 Subject: X announcements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > I seem to recall some discussion about why X announcements weren't > forwarded to this list from cygwin-xfree-announce (the way they are to the > main Cygwin list from cygwin-announce), but can't find it at the moment. > Could someone refresh my memory? Are the reasons still relevant? I can't seem to find the original discussion either, but if my memory serves me right, Harold Hunt agreed with someone's request that the two lists should not get duplicate messages. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From wrcygwin@riede.org Thu Sep 8 22:34:00 2005 From: wrcygwin@riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:34:00 -0000 Subject: X announcements In-Reply-To: (from pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu on Wed Sep 7 20:38:41 2005) Message-ID: <1126218850l.3409l.6l@serve.riede.org> On 09/07/2005 08:38:41 PM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > I seem to recall some discussion about why X announcements weren't > forwarded to this list from cygwin-xfree-announce (the way they are to the > main Cygwin list from cygwin-announce), but can't find it at the moment. > Could someone refresh my memory? Are the reasons still relevant? Well, the reason given was "popular demand" - I don't know if that's still true. Harold's message had subject "Cygwin/X Announcements - Only sent to cygwin-xfree-announce@cygwin.com" and read: -- start quote -- The subject says it all. Due to popular demand I have started sending announcements *only* to cygwin-xfree-announce@cygwin.com. I no longer post announcements to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Now is the time to subscribe to the cygwin-xfree-announce@cygwin.com mailing list if you have not already done so: http://cygwin.com/lists.html Harold -- end quote -- Regards, Willem Riede. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From tulitanssi@gmail.com Fri Sep 9 09:49:00 2005 From: tulitanssi@gmail.com (tuli tanssi) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:49:00 -0000 Subject: xwinwm issues Message-ID: Hi, I've a couple of questions about xwinwm, the external window manager replacement of the internal manager: 1) when using xwinwm window manager, new windows will not get the focus by default. Is there a setting or option for this? Or should I check the source and recompile xwinwm? 2) I noticed that if there are normal xterm windows open for about 1 to 2 hours, the xwinwm manager just suddenly quits! Is this manager supported by cygwin? I have all the newest packages installed, so this shouldn't be a problem of using old versions of something. Cheers Tuli -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Thomas.Kunselman@csueastbay.edu Fri Sep 9 17:08:00 2005 From: Thomas.Kunselman@csueastbay.edu (Thomas Kunselman) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:08:00 -0000 Subject: Broken Link on x.cygwin.com Message-ID: <2F842A2CFEC38545BFEB1C3AE925A6B4A8133A@esmail.ad.csuhayward.edu> There is a broken link on x.cygwin.com documentation such as the SETXKBMAP(1) manual page. http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/setxkbmap.1.html -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From skpang@ctimail.com Sat Sep 10 05:24:00 2005 From: skpang@ctimail.com (skpang@ctimail.com) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: error in running startx Message-ID: <200509100524.j8A5O1c13541@www4.ctimail.com> Dear Sir / Madam, After I followed the instructions in Cygwin/X web site to install the cygwin/X, the error occured during running startx. Patrick & Wendy@patrick-wendy ~ $ cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc Patrick & Wendy@patrick-wendy ~ $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin && startx Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress giving up. xinit: Connection reset by peer (errno 104): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Patrick & Wendy@patrick-wendy /usr/X11R6/bin $ How can I fix this problem? Moreover, the X logo appears in the right bottom corner destop screen of Chinese MS Windows 2000. Thank you for your help and attention! Regards, Patrick Pang -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From johan.gronqvist@gmail.com Sat Sep 10 09:21:00 2005 From: johan.gronqvist@gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Gr=F6nqvist?=) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:21:00 -0000 Subject: error in running startx In-Reply-To: <200509100524.j8A5O1c13541@www4.ctimail.com> References: <200509100524.j8A5O1c13541@www4.ctimail.com> Message-ID: I get exactly the same error message when I try to start X while already having X running. My guess is therefore that you have already started x successfully, but you do not know it. Try starting xterm instead and see if it works. You may have to set a DISPLAY variable for that to work. I think the script startxwin is closer to what you want, but I am not the expert. / johan -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reid.thompson@ateb.com Sat Sep 10 14:48:00 2005 From: reid.thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: error in running startx In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4322F36C.50109@ateb.com> Johan Gr??nqvist wrote: > I get exactly the same error message when I try to start X while already > having X running. My guess is therefore that you have already started x > successfully, but you do not know it. Try starting xterm instead and see > if it works. > > You may have to set a DISPLAY variable for that to work. I think the > script startxwin is closer to what you want, but I am not the expert. > > / johan > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > you are correct -- use either startxwin.bat, or (startxwin.sh if running cygwin). -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From descab_palhaco@netzero.net Sat Sep 10 22:29:00 2005 From: descab_palhaco@netzero.net (descab_palhaco@netzero.net) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:29:00 -0000 Subject: Failed xorg/XWin launch Message-ID: <20050910.152801.6056.378702@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fosterb@rogers.com Sun Sep 11 00:18:00 2005 From: fosterb@rogers.com (Bruce) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:18:00 -0000 Subject: bye Message-ID: <00dd01c5b666$473285e0$cb01a8c0@Gandalf> bye -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From kdibble@alltel.net Sun Sep 11 01:17:00 2005 From: kdibble@alltel.net (Ken Dibble) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:17:00 -0000 Subject: Failed xorg/XWin launch In-Reply-To: <20050910.152801.6056.378702@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> References: <20050910.152801.6056.378702@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <20050911011739.GA14730@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 10:27:41PM +0000, descab_palhaco@netzero.net wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > All 4 methods outlined in the User's Guide of launching xorg/XWin produced similar errors. Further, attempts to cut-and-paste the contents of the XWin.log or sending it as an attachement have generated MAILER-DAEMON errors from your email server. > > All requisite xorg packages (in addition to optional ones) are installed. > > Here's another try of sending the contents (stripped of HTML content) to the XWin.log as a result of issuing $ sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh: > > > ***************************************************************************************** > > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.2.0-2 > Contact: cygwin-xfree..... > XWin was started with the following command line: > XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error > ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership > (II) XF86Config is not supported > (II) See ...cygwin-x-faq for more information > (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel > winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1024 height: 768 depth: 16 > winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 bpp 16 > null screen fn ReparentWindow > null screen fn RestackWindow > InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init > InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned > InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init > InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned > winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello > winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () > (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 > (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) > (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), type "4" > (--) 3 mouse buttons found > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress > > ****************************************************************************************************************** > > The method for defining the PATH on the commandline yielded similar content in its XWin.log, but for brevity sake that has been omitted. Another undesired behavior arose when defining the PATH, $PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin, locally in BASH and returning to the commandline after startx failed-the PATH environment variable inherited from Windows, which provides access to cygwin/usr, cygwin/usr/bin and hence all the shell programs (commands). The Windows inherited PATH variable restores when opening a new Cygwin session. > > Please advise as to how xorg can be successfully launched on my computer? > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > > Keith Kuchenbecker > PS - Why does the XWin.log file contain "text/HTML" or MIME components that bounce in your email server? > > Lacking the output of cygcheck -s -v -r as stated at http://cygwin.com/problems.html See: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-error-font-eof -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Misza.B@wp.pl Sun Sep 11 10:07:00 2005 From: Misza.B@wp.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Baryli=F1ski?=) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with starting X up - again! Message-ID: <432401BE.4070903@wp.pl> Hi! I have recently installed Cygwin/X and have encountered a problem with starting up the X server. I have browsed through this mailing list and didn't find a solution, although many people seem to share this problem. When I start X through startxwin.sh it displays some text and hangs up. I tried different command-line option combinations. Particularly, with -screen 0 640 480 I get a 640x480 unresponsive window and also uresponsive tray icon (but no fatal errors in bash window). No matter which window manager I use. Finally I found a post where someone say that killing some process unlocks everything. I did some testing here and I finally got it: After running startxwin.sh I have to manually (e.g. through Task Manager) kill the "xkbcomp.exe" process and everything proceeds as expected. This is my startxwin.sh (without comments): ################################################## #! /bin/sh export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 export PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:"$PATH" export XAPPLRESDIR=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults export XCMSDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xcms.txt export XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB export XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error & xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l & exit ################################################# And this is my XWin.log: ################################################# Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1024 height: 768 depth: 32 winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000415" (00000415) (EE) Keyboardlayout "Polski (programisty)" (00000415) is unknown ###################################################### # Here the program displays: Rules = "xorg" Model="pc101" Layout = "us" Variant="(null)" Options = "(null)" # and locks. After killing xkbcomp.exe it proceeds: ###################################################### (EE) Couldn't open compiled keymap file /tmp/server-0.xkm (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap (--) 3 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. #############################3 So can anyone now think of what is the problem and solve it once and for all? ;-) Thanks in advance, Misza -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Sun Sep 11 14:51:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:51:00 -0000 Subject: Failed xorg/XWin launch In-Reply-To: <20050910.152801.6056.378702@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> References: <20050910.152801.6056.378702@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: descab_palhaco@netzero.net wrote: > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-error-font-eof -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From semaphore_2000@yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 19:04:00 2005 From: semaphore_2000@yahoo.com (Doug Snead) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:04:00 -0000 Subject: THANK YOU! :-) XWin works great! Message-ID: <20050912190359.28593.qmail@web36214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > $ XWin --version > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.2.0-4 > Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com You did a great job on XWin, something changed in the last six months and now XWin works perfectly with my Windows XP! (It was closing other window applications sockets (winsock?) before, but now that is fixed.) I was even able to compile latest fluxbox window manager under cygwin and make it work. I've got multiple XWin instances even on different displays and that works like a charm too. Nice work! Doug Snead ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From DANIEL.E.ORZECHOWSKI@saic.com Mon Sep 12 21:21:00 2005 From: DANIEL.E.ORZECHOWSKI@saic.com (Daniel Orzechowski) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:21:00 -0000 Subject: Build with MinGW GCC, link to Cygwin libs, program doesn't work Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050912165616.027f8110@pop.mtg.saic.com> I've built a simple application by compiling the source with the MinGW version of GCC 3.3.1 , and linking to the regular Cygwin X11 libraries. --- #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { Display *display; printf("hello world\n"); display = XOpenDisplay(":0.0"); printf("ok\n"); if (display == NULL) { fprintf(stderr, "can't connect to X server\n"); exit(1); } printf("connected ok\n"); XCloseDisplay(display); exit(0); } --- My C_INCLUDE_PATH environment variable points to the c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\include , and my LIBRARY_PATH variable points to c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib . After calling > gcc -o test test.c -lX11-6 the code compiles and links successfully. I run XWin.exe (which works properly; I am able to use xeyes, xfontsel, etc.) and then launch my program. It gets stuck on the call to XOpenDisplay(), and does nothing but run the CPU up to 99% load until I send it a Ctrl-C. I'm not very familiar with Cygwin, and wouldn't know where to start looking to troubleshoot this. Has anyone ever experienced anything similar to this problem, or know where I could look to get started? I skimmed the FAQ but didn't seem to find anything relevant. Thanks in advance for any help. - Dan (Switching compilers or Cygwin versions isn't really possible, since our customer is dictating what build environment we use. I'm attempting to use the Cygwin X libraries since we're evaluating alternatives to the commercial off-the-shelf X server and client software we're currently using.) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Mon Sep 12 22:17:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:17:00 -0000 Subject: Build with MinGW GCC, link to Cygwin libs, program doesn't work In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050912165616.027f8110@pop.mtg.saic.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050912165616.027f8110@pop.mtg.saic.com> Message-ID: <20050912221706.GA21199@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 05:20:13PM -0400, Daniel Orzechowski wrote: >I've built a simple application by compiling the source with the MinGW >version of GCC 3.3.1 , and linking to the regular Cygwin X11 libraries. > >My C_INCLUDE_PATH environment variable points to the >c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\include , and my LIBRARY_PATH variable points to >c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib . > >After calling >> gcc -o test test.c -lX11-6 >the code compiles and links successfully. I run XWin.exe (which works >properly; I am able to use xeyes, xfontsel, etc.) and then launch my >program. It gets stuck on the call to XOpenDisplay(), and does nothing but >run the CPU up to 99% load until I send it a Ctrl-C. > >I'm not very familiar with Cygwin, and wouldn't know where to start looking >to troubleshoot this. Has anyone ever experienced anything similar to this >problem, or know where I could look to get started? I skimmed the FAQ but >didn't seem to find anything relevant. > > >(Switching compilers or Cygwin versions isn't really possible, since our >customer is dictating what build environment we use. I'm attempting to use >the Cygwin X libraries since we're evaluating alternatives to the >commercial off-the-shelf X server and client software we're currently >using.) If switching compilers isn't possible then you're out of luck. You can't do what you are doing here without using the cygwin gcc compiler. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Alexander.Schwez@gmx.de Tue Sep 13 15:13:00 2005 From: Alexander.Schwez@gmx.de (Alexander Schwez) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:13:00 -0000 Subject: Examples Wave XWin Message-ID: <15121.1126624331@www45.gmx.net> Hallo ,excuse me ,I try to set WFDB-10.3.17,Wave,XWin in Windows Home System with Gygwin. But I have errors in text below. Perhaps I must additional installation of Cygwin? I wait your comment on. Thank you! Alex Schwez,Lubeck, Germany ,13.09.05 Schwez@heimkino ~ $ PATH=/usr/openwin/bin:$PATH Schwez@heimkino ~ $ echo $PATH /usr/openwin/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program me/Java/jdk1.5.0/bin:/bin1:/cygdrive/c/matlab6p5/bin/win32:/cygdrive/c/Programme /Java/jdk1.5.0/bin:.:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/GEMEIN~1/MUVEET~1/030625:/cygdrive/c/P ROGRA~1/GEMEIN~1/MUVEET~1/030625:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/GEMEIN~1/MUVEET~1/030625 Schwez@heimkino ~ $ which wave /usr/bin/wave Schwez@heimkino ~ $ wave -r 100s -a atr & [1] 2244 Schwez@heimkino ~ $ WAVE version 6.8 (Sep 3 2005) WFDB library version 10.3.17 (Sep 3 2005). usage: wave -r RECORD[+RECORD] [ options ] Options are: -a annotator-name Open an annotation file -dpi XX[xYY] Calibrate for XX [by YY] dots/inch -f TIME Open the record beginning at TIME -g Use shades of grey only -H Use high-resolution mode -m Use black and white only -O Use overlay graphics -p PATH Search for input files in PATH (if not found in $WFDB) -s SIGNAL [SIGNAL ...] Initialize the signal list -S Use a shared colormap -Vx Set initial display option x wave is an X11 client. You must specify the X server connection for it in the DISPLAY environment variable. Be sure to set the WFDB environment variable to indicate a list of locations that contain input files for wave. For more information, type `more /usr/help/wave/wave.hlp', or open `http://www.physionet.org/physiotools/wug/' using your web browser. $ XWin Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning XWin was started with the following command line: XWin winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000407" (00000407) (--) Using preset keyboard for "German (Germany)" (407), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "de" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap (--) 3 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 573 404 winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress [1]+ Exit 1 wave -r 100s -a atr Schwez@heimkino ~ $ which rdann /usr/bin/rdann Schwez@heimkino ~ $ rdann -r 100s -a atr -f 59 0:59.508 21423 N 0 0 0 Schwez@heimkino ~ $ -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen f??r GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From f.couillard@formatys.com Tue Sep 13 19:16:00 2005 From: f.couillard@formatys.com (Francois Couillard) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:16:00 -0000 Subject: Grey screen problem Message-ID: <43272669.6030106@formatys.com> I'm using windows 2000 to connect to a Debian Sarge server. Using Cygwin, I'm typing xwin -query myip to connect to my Debian server. Theres only a grey screen that appears with an 'x' cursor. I also tried xwin -query hostip -from clientip without success. The .log says: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from list. Looking at the FAQ, they say to Open a Cygwin shell and run *umount /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts*. When I type this, it just says "theres no such file or directory" even though it exists. I reinstalled the font components and it didn't work I can connect with my server using ssh without problem. Someone got the same problem on the mailing list at http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-03/msg00017.html So I checked the FAQ, the mailing list and even the #cygwin room on MIRC and can't find a decent answer. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: cygcheck.out URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From kdibble@alltel.net Tue Sep 13 20:03:00 2005 From: kdibble@alltel.net (Ken Dibble) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:03:00 -0000 Subject: Grey screen problem In-Reply-To: <43272669.6030106@formatys.com> References: <43272669.6030106@formatys.com> Message-ID: <20050913200259.GA23674@localhost.localdomain> >On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:20:09PM -0400, Francois Couillard wrote: > I'm using windows 2000 to connect to a Debian Sarge server. > > Using Cygwin, I'm typing xwin -query myip to connect to my Debian > server. Theres only a grey screen that appears with an 'x' cursor. I > also tried xwin -query hostip -from clientip without success. > > The .log says: Could not init font path element > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from list. > > Looking at the FAQ, they say to > Open a Cygwin shell and run *umount /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts*. > > When I type this, it just says "theres no such file or directory" even > though it exists. > > I reinstalled the font components and it didn't work > > I can connect with my server using ssh without problem. > > Someone got the same problem on the mailing list at > http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-03/msg00017.html > > So I checked the FAQ, the mailing list and even the #cygwin room on MIRC > and can't find a decent answer. On the debian box, does the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config contain a line that says: X11Forwarding yes and does the file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf contain Enable=true Additionally you cannot login as root if /etc/gdm/gdm.conf contains the default line of AllowRoot=false Before changing any of the default settings it is a good idea to read about X security and understand the implications of what you are changing. Regards, Ken -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dieguito@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 22:08:00 2005 From: dieguito@gmail.com (Diego Escalante) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:08:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: Issues compiling gnome-games In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I'm trying to make gnome-games work (just gnometris). And I'm getting this errors (and the official gnome-games maintainer couldn't give me a hint). (Attached file) Btw, you can find gnome-games source in ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-games/ Thanks in advance -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error Type: application/octet-stream Size: 35953 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 23:53:00 2005 From: yselkowitz@gmail.com (Yaakov S) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:53:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: Issues compiling gnome-games In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <432765DE.5090207@users.sourceforge.net> Diego Escalante wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to make gnome-games work (just gnometris). And I'm getting > this errors (and the official gnome-games maintainer couldn't give me > a hint). (Attached file) Did you try this? ftp://sunsite.dk/projects/cygwinports/release/GNOME/gnome-games/ An update to 2.10 is pending the release of the rest of the GNOME 2.10 libraries. Yaakov -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From f.couillard@formatys.com Wed Sep 14 13:42:00 2005 From: f.couillard@formatys.com (Francois Couillard) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:42:00 -0000 Subject: Grey screen problem In-Reply-To: <20050913200259.GA23674@localhost.localdomain> References: <43272669.6030106@formatys.com> <20050913200259.GA23674@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <432829E1.9010706@formatys.com> Ken Dibble wrote: >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:20:09PM -0400, Francois Couillard wrote: >>I'm using windows 2000 to connect to a Debian Sarge server. >> >>Using Cygwin, I'm typing xwin -query myip to connect to my Debian >>server. Theres only a grey screen that appears with an 'x' cursor. I >>also tried xwin -query hostip -from clientip without success. >> >>The .log says: Could not init font path element >>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from list. >> >>Looking at the FAQ, they say to >>Open a Cygwin shell and run *umount /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts*. >> >>When I type this, it just says "theres no such file or directory" even >>though it exists. >> >>I reinstalled the font components and it didn't work >> >>I can connect with my server using ssh without problem. >> >>Someone got the same problem on the mailing list at >>http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-03/msg00017.html >> >>So I checked the FAQ, the mailing list and even the #cygwin room on MIRC >>and can't find a decent answer. >> >> > >On the debian box, does the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config contain >a line that says: > >X11Forwarding yes > >and does the file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf contain > >Enable=true > >Additionally you cannot login as root if >/etc/gdm/gdm.conf contains the default line of > >AllowRoot=false > > >Before changing any of the default settings it is a good >idea to read about X security and understand the implications >of what you are changing. > >Regards, >Ken > > > > I forgot to say it but I already changed thoses values (Except AllowRoot). I just tried AllowRoot = true and it still doesn't work. How can I start Xwin with another login than root? I though the GNOME login screen would ask me to log in? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From kdibble@alltel.net Wed Sep 14 14:57:00 2005 From: kdibble@alltel.net (Ken Dibble) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:57:00 -0000 Subject: Grey screen problem In-Reply-To: <432829E1.9010706@formatys.com> References: <43272669.6030106@formatys.com> <20050913200259.GA23674@localhost.localdomain> <432829E1.9010706@formatys.com> Message-ID: <20050914145700.GA8546@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:47:13AM -0400, Francois Couillard wrote: > Ken Dibble wrote: > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:20:09PM -0400, Francois Couillard wrote: > >>I'm using windows 2000 to connect to a Debian Sarge server. > >> > >>Using Cygwin, I'm typing xwin -query myip to connect to my Debian > >>server. Theres only a grey screen that appears with an 'x' cursor. I > >>also tried xwin -query hostip -from clientip without success. > >> > >>The .log says: Could not init font path element > >>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from list. > >> > >>Looking at the FAQ, they say to > >>Open a Cygwin shell and run *umount /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts*. > >> > >>When I type this, it just says "theres no such file or directory" even > >>though it exists. > >> > >>I reinstalled the font components and it didn't work > >> > >>I can connect with my server using ssh without problem. > >> > >>Someone got the same problem on the mailing list at > >>http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-03/msg00017.html > >> > >>So I checked the FAQ, the mailing list and even the #cygwin room on MIRC > >>and can't find a decent answer. > >> > >> > > > >On the debian box, does the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config contain > >a line that says: > > > >X11Forwarding yes > > > >and does the file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf contain > > > >Enable=true > > > >Additionally you cannot login as root if > >/etc/gdm/gdm.conf contains the default line of > > > >AllowRoot=false > > > > > >Before changing any of the default settings it is a good > >idea to read about X security and understand the implications > >of what you are changing. > > > >Regards, > >Ken > > > > > > > > > I forgot to say it but I already changed thoses values (Except AllowRoot). > > I just tried AllowRoot = true and it still doesn't work. This just handles the case where you try and login from the login screen using the username root. > > How can I start Xwin with another login than root? I though the GNOME > login screen would ask me to log in? > I remember this happening to me. If I recall correctly the problem was that the gnome login screen announces itself with a sound. Depending on which sound configuration you have, you get a blank grey screen. Again if I recall correctly the problem was the esd sound driver not liking remote X sessions. YMMV. Sorry I can't be of more help. Ken -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Wed Sep 14 16:39:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:39:00 -0000 Subject: Testing access Message-ID: Sorry if this looks trivial. I'm now trying to ask a question at the Cygwin mailing list site, but it doesn't tell me how. Email addresses seem to be 'transliterated' in to xxx at yyy dot zzz. So I'm guessing on how to ask a question before I describe my problem - I've been at it all day and my head now hurts... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited office : +44 (0)1962-841138 mobile: +44 (0)7966-653010 email : john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk alt : john_ormerod@bluebottle.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Wed Sep 14 17:05:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:05:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Servier not fully started (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) Message-ID: Hello I've been struggling all day in what is a new world for me. I need to have GUI access to a Linux system that runs in a VMWare image in my Win XP + SP2 system. I downloaded the X11 package which I think contains what I require, and let it install. I am unable to get an X window (is that the right term?) to open in Windows. This seems to be a very common problem from my searches. However, I would like to establish first if the X Server is starting properly. I get the X icon showing in the system tray, but it's 'dead'. By which I mean there I no context menu for it - I get the impression from reading around that there should be a menu... even if only to stop it. If I let the mouse pointer hover over it, the tool tip says: Cygwin/X Server - 0:0 The only way I have found to end this is via the Task Mgr - I see 3 processes: Xwin.exe, xterm.exe, xkbcomp.exe, which I kill one by one. This doesn't seem right to me. Hence this question. I started X Server using startxwin.bat. Researching via Google, I removed some options to end up with "run XWin -multiwindow" Here is the XWin.log - that might show that initialisation has not completed, or a problem during startup. If this is working as designed, then I'd like to know of a smarter way to stop it, and I'll join a long list of people who seem to have initial problems in getting a Unix system to open an X window in Windows (and yes, I have tried stopping my firewall). >> Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib /X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75d pi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1024 height: 768 depth: 32 winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000809" (00000809) (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (United Kingdom)" (809), type "4" >> Thanks in advance, regards John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Wed Sep 14 17:34:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:34:00 -0000 Subject: A new day, a new snapshot, more testing required on the road to 1.5.19 Message-ID: <20050914170115.GA20659@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Yes, I have another snapshot to test. I know that this is tedious but I thought it would be nice to have some concerted testing of cygwin before I make a new release. I know that in the long run, it will probably only have a limited effect because there are people waiting in the wings who are reluctant to test snapshots and who are hoping, magically, that their problems will be fixed. This is a fact of life with any software project. However, I *really* do appreciate all of the testing that we've seen so far. I hope everyone who has tested previous snapshots will continue to test this one and any other snapshots up until I eventually release 1.5.19. It would be particularly nice if package maintainers would test their packages with a snapshot. This is particularly important for Cygwin/X. Historically, we often seem to find about problems after a release over there. I've cc'ed the cygwin-xfree mailing list for this reason. Anyway, here, once again are the reporting instructions. * * * I'm asking, once again, for people to test the latest cygwin snapshot. The snapshot that is currently available should be very close to an official release of cygwin version 1.5.19. Please report success or failure to this thread. Please don't change the subject. Please don't start a new discussion. If you have a problem please report it using the guidelines from . If you think you've found an error, please indicate whether this is a regression from 1.5.18. OTOH, if you've found a regression from some other past version then that is worth reporting, too. There are no guarantees that we will fix this problem for 1.5.19, unless it is an actual regression from 1.5.18, however. In general, just remember that we need *details*. So, when reporting a problem, report the exact steps that you took to cause the problem to occur. If there is anything "unusual" about your environment (firewalls, virus checkers, etc.) please report that too. Snapshots are located here: . Thanks. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 14 18:41:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:41:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Servier not fully started (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) Message-ID: John Ormerod wrote: > Hello > I've been struggling all day in what is a new world for me. I > need to have GUI access to a Linux system that runs in a did you comment out this line from your .bat file? If you did, uncomment it. run xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l .......snip REM Startup the X Server with the integrated Windows-based window manager. REM WARNING: Do not use 'xwinclip' in conjunction with the ``-clipboard'' REM command-line parameter for XWin. Doing so would start two clipboard REM managers, which is never supposed to happen. run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. run xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l ......snip I believe the context menu you are referring to is controlled by a .XWinrc file in your home directory.... $ cat .XWinrc # XWin Server Resource File - EXAMPLE # Earle F. Philhower, III # Place in ~/.XWinrc or in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/system.XWinrc # Keywords are case insensitive, comments legal pretty much anywhere # you can have an end-of-line # Comments begin with "#" or "//" and go to the end-of-line # Paths to commands are **cygwin** based (i.e. /usr/local/bin/xcalc) # Paths to icons are **WINDOWS** based (i.e. c:\windows\icons) # Menus are defined as... # MENU { # EXEC # ^^ This command will have any "%display%" # string replaced with the proper display # variable (i.e. 127.0.0.1:.0) # or MENU # or ALWAYSONTOP # ^^ Sets the window to display above all others # or RELOAD # ^^ Causes ~/.XWinrc or the system.XWinrc file # to be reloaded and icons and menus regenerated # or SEPARATOR # ... # } # Set the taskmar menu with # ROOTMENU # If you want a menu to be applied to all popup window's system menu # DEFAULTSYSMENU # To choose a specific menu for a specific WM_CLASS or WM_NAME use ... # SYSMENU { # # ... # } # To define where ICO files live (** Windows path**) # ICONDIRECTORY # To define a replacement for the standard X icon for apps w/o specified icons # DEFAULTICON # To define substitute icons on a per-window basis use... # ICONS { # # ... # } # In the case where multiple matches occur, the first listed in the ICONS # section will be chosen. # DEBUG prints out the string to the XWin.log file // Below are just some silly menus to demonstrate writing your // own configuration file. // Make some menus... menu apps { rxvt-green_on_black exec "rxvt -sl 2000 -sb -sr -cr red -geometry 80x40+200+100 -fg green -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash" rxvt-yellow_on_black exec "rxvt -sl 2000 -sb -sr -cr red -geometry 80x 40+200+100 -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash" "Emacs" exec "emacs" xterm exec "xterm" notepad exec notepad } menu root { // Comments fit here, too... "Reload .XWinrc" RELOAD "Applications" menu apps SEParATOR } menu aot { Separator "Always on Top" alwaysontop } menu xtermspecial { "Emacs" exec "emacs" "Always on Top" alwaysontop SepArAtor } RootMenu root DefaultSysMenu aot atend SysMenu { "xterm" xtermspecial atstart } # IconDirectory "c:\winnt\" # DefaultIcon "reinstall.ico" # Icons { # "xterm" "uninstall.ico" # } DEBUG "Done parsing the configuration file..." reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Wed Sep 14 20:26:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:26:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started? (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Reid Thanks for providing me with the info. Sadly, no progress. 1. "run xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l" was being invoked, the only change I had made to startxwin.bat was the options for XWin.exe 2. I restored the '-clipboard -silent-dup-error parms' - see from the log: << XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error >> 3. I created a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/system.Xwinrc file by pasting in the lines from your reply and joining up the split comment lines - I used UltraEdit and saved it in UNIX file format. I still end up in the same position. The 'X' icon shows up in the system tray, but I can't interact with it. One of things I found today while searching, said that after the X icon appears, I should get a terminal window open (with horrible colours!), but I don't get that. My guess is that such a window could be expected from the 'run xterm...' statement?. Regards, John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -----Original Message----- From: Reid Thompson [mailto:Reid.Thompson@ateb.com] Sent: 14 September 2005 19:41 To: John Ormerod Subject: RE: Is my X Servier not fully started (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) Reid Thompson wrote: > John Ormerod wrote: >> Hello >> I've been struggling all day in what is a new world for me. I need to >> have GUI access to a Linux system that runs in a > > did you comment out this line from your .bat file? > If you did, uncomment it. > > run xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l > > > > .......snip > REM Startup the X Server with the integrated Windows-based window > manager. REM WARNING: Do not use 'xwinclip' in conjunction with the > ``-clipboard'' REM command-line parameter for XWin. Doing so would > start two clipboard REM managers, which is never supposed to happen. > > run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error > > > REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. > > run xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l > > > ......snip > > > I believe the context menu you are referring to is controlled by a > .XWinrc file in your home directory.... > > $ cat .XWinrc > # XWin Server Resource File - EXAMPLE > # Earle F. Philhower, III > > # Place in ~/.XWinrc or in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/system.XWinrc > > # Keywords are case insensitive, comments legal pretty much anywhere # > you can have an end-of-line > > # Comments begin with "#" or "//" and go to the end-of-line > > # Paths to commands are **cygwin** based (i.e. /usr/local/bin/xcalc) > > # Paths to icons are **WINDOWS** based (i.e. c:\windows\icons) > > # Menus are defined as... > # MENU { > # EXEC > # ^^ This command will have any > "%display%" # string replaced with > the > proper display > # variable (i.e. > 127.0.0.1:.0) > # or MENU > # or ALWAYSONTOP > # ^^ Sets the window to display above > all others > # or RELOAD > # ^^ Causes ~/.XWinrc or the > system.XWinrc file > # to be reloaded and icons and > menus regenerated > # or SEPARATOR > # ... > # } > > # Set the taskmar menu with > # ROOTMENU > > # If you want a menu to be applied to all popup window's system menu # > DEFAULTSYSMENU > > # To choose a specific menu for a specific WM_CLASS or WM_NAME use ... > # SYSMENU { > # > > # ... > # } > > # To define where ICO files live (** Windows path**) # ICONDIRECTORY > > > # To define a replacement for the standard X icon for apps w/o > specified icons > # DEFAULTICON > > # To define substitute icons on a per-window basis use... # ICONS { > # # ... > # } > # In the case where multiple matches occur, the first listed in the > ICONS # section will be chosen. > > # DEBUG prints out the string to the XWin.log file > > // Below are just some silly menus to demonstrate writing your // own > configuration file. > > // Make some menus... > menu apps { > rxvt-green_on_black exec "rxvt -sl 2000 -sb -sr -cr > red -geometry 80x40+200+100 -fg green -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash" > rxvt-yellow_on_black exec "rxvt -sl 2000 -sb -sr -cr red > -geometry 80x 40+200+100 -fg yellow -bg black -e > /usr/bin/bash" "Emacs" exec "emacs" > xterm exec "xterm" > notepad exec notepad > } > > menu root { > // Comments fit here, too... > "Reload .XWinrc" RELOAD > "Applications" menu apps > SEParATOR > } > > menu aot { > Separator > "Always on Top" alwaysontop > } > > menu xtermspecial { > "Emacs" exec "emacs" > "Always on Top" alwaysontop > SepArAtor > } > > RootMenu root > > DefaultSysMenu aot atend > > SysMenu { > "xterm" xtermspecial atstart > } > > # IconDirectory "c:\winnt\" > > # DefaultIcon "reinstall.ico" > > # Icons { > # "xterm" "uninstall.ico" > # } > > DEBUG "Done parsing the configuration file..." > > > > reid reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Wed Sep 14 21:03:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:03:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Servier not fully started (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) In-Reply-To: <32649.2177242928$1126717720@news.gmane.org> References: <32649.2177242928$1126717720@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: John Ormerod wrote: > I get the X icon showing in the system tray, but it's 'dead'. By which I > mean there I no context menu for it - I get the impression from reading > around that there should be a menu... even if only to stop it. > > If I let the mouse pointer hover over it, the tool tip says: Cygwin/X Server > - 0:0 The icon in the system tray is supposed to react to two inputs: - a double-click with the left mouse button should trigger the "Exit" dialog - a right-click should pop up a menu that is trivially simple until customized with an xwinrc file. Does yours react to neither? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reid.thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 14 23:16:00 2005 From: reid.thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:16:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started? (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4328B08F.1060405@ateb.com> Try the following. Open a cygwin bash shell, using cygwin.bat. make sure that X is not running,,, $ ps -ef | grep X should not list Xwin from the command line call $ startxwin.sh what does this result in? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From g.r.vansickle@worldnet.att.net Thu Sep 15 01:10:00 2005 From: g.r.vansickle@worldnet.att.net (Gary R. Van Sickle) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:10:00 -0000 Subject: A new day, a new snapshot, more testing required on the road to 1.5.19 In-Reply-To: <20050914170115.GA20659@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: > From: Christopher Faylor > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:01 PM > To: cygwin@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: A new day, a new snapshot, more testing required on > the road to 1.5.19 > > Yes, I have another snapshot to test. Sweeet! > I know that this is > tedious Not for much longer, if a certain googly-eyed letter of the alphabet has anything to say about it! [snip] -- Gary R. Van Sickle -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From g.r.vansickle@worldnet.att.net Thu Sep 15 01:56:00 2005 From: g.r.vansickle@worldnet.att.net (Gary R. Van Sickle) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:56:00 -0000 Subject: A new day, a new snapshot, more testing required on the road to 1.5.19 In-Reply-To: <20050914170115.GA20659@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: Ok, whatever snapshot this is: "1.5.19s(0.138/4/2) 20050914 20:32:51" Configures, builds, and installs a working wxWidgets here (same wxW's cvs as yesterday). -- Gary R. Van Sickle -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Thu Sep 15 07:49:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started? (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) - results In-Reply-To: <4328B08F.1060405@ateb.com> Message-ID: Reid I did as you requested - see below. BTW, there is a delay of 3-4 seconds for cmds like 'ps -ef'. Is this normal? (Thinkpad T41 with 2Gb RAM) >> Open a cygwin bash shell, using cygwin.bat. I did this from cmd prompt. It appeared to be stuck for what seemed a long time - though maybe it was actually between 30-60 secs. Then the prompt came alive and resized itself. -------------- >> make sure that X is not running,,, >> $ ps -ef | grep X >> should not list Xwin JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO ~ $ ps -ef | grep X JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO ~ $ ps -ef UID PID PPID TTY STIME COMMAND JOrmerod 3412 1 con 07:53:17 /usr/bin/bash JOrmerod 4008 3412 con 07:58:20 /usr/bin/ps --------------- >> from the command line call >> $ startxwin.sh >> what does this result in? JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO ~ $ pwd /cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/John Ormerod JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO /usr/X11R6/bin $ startxwin.sh JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO /usr/X11R6/bin $ Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/ lib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winPrefsLoadPreferences: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/system.XWinrc LoadPreferences: syntax error, unexpected STRING line 1 winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1024 height: 768 depth: 32 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000809" (00000809) (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (United Kingdom)" (809), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "gb" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" ------------------------------ I did some further investigations - results in separate append to keep this one down in size Regards, John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -----Original Message----- From: Reid Thompson [mailto:reid.thompson@ateb.com] Sent: 15 September 2005 00:22 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Subject: Re: Is my X Server not fully started? (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) Try the following. Open a cygwin bash shell, using cygwin.bat. make sure that X is not running,,, $ ps -ef | grep X should not list Xwin from the command line call $ startxwin.sh what does this result in? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Thu Sep 15 08:05:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:05:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) Message-ID: See below. Jack Tanner wrote: << John Ormerod wrote: I get the X icon showing in the system tray, but it's 'dead'. By which I mean there I no context menu for it - I get the impression from reading around that there should be a menu... even if only to stop it. If I let the mouse pointer hover over it, the tool tip says: Cygwin/X Server - 0:0 The icon in the system tray is supposed to react to two inputs: - a double-click with the left mouse button should trigger the "Exit" dialog - a right-click should pop up a menu that is trivially simple until customized with an xwinrc file. Does yours react to neither? >> Jack The X icon in the system tray does not respond to any mouse clicks. Currently this was started from within the bash shell as requested by Reid. I also wonder if the 'xterm' should open an xterm window in Windows? It doesn't. FWIW, my windows PATH is 897 bytes when %xxx% symbolics are resolved. So when the .bat scripts append to the front it may be getting to whatever limit Windows has these days, or a possible limit that Cygwin can handle. Regards, John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Thu Sep 15 08:53:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:53:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started? (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) - some additional results Message-ID: Reid Some more results in case they highlight something. 1. After running startxwin.sh, my cmd prompt showed these last lines: << ... (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (United Kingdom)" (809), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "gb" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" >> 2. I was not put back to the $ prompt, but I could interact with something. However, this resulted in error messages. After about 3 attempts, I was back at the $ prompt. XWin etc still running though. No xterm window opened (assuming one was supposed to) << JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO /usr/X11R6/bin $ ps -ef UID PID PPID TTY STIME COMMAND JOrmerod 3412 1 con 07:53:17 /usr/bin/bash JOrmerod 4740 1 con 08:06:31 /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin JOrmerod 4368 1 con 08:06:31 /usr/bin/xterm JOrmerod 1804 4740 con 08:06:36 /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp JOrmerod 5400 3412 con 08:37:16 /usr/bin/ps >> 3. More tests. These may be a bit hard to follow, given no ability to format. Will do my best. 3.1 ==>I entered a: ? (well, why not!) ==> the log and cmd window displayed: << Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root XWin was started with the following command line: X winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. >> ==> This also resulted in a GUI error prompt saying much the same thing. 3.2 ==> Entered another ? and a CR. Similar or same entries in the log (it gets overwritten each time) ==> My final CR produced the following in the cmd window, which then exited whatever it was'in', and put me back to $ prompt (the log did not contain the same contents) << JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO /usr/X11R6/bin $ ?Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). >> The ps -ef at start of this append, show the three processes still running. The X icon is in the system tray, but does not respond to mouse clicks. 4. I exited the shell and then reran cygwin.bat. BTW, it does indeed take 60 secs to start. The same 3 processes we still running. I could kill xterm. But xkbcomp responded with: bash: kill: (1804) - Resource temporarily unavailable And Xwin did nothing. 5. Using Windows' Task Mgr to stop processes: Ending xkbcomp resulted in Xwin going as well!? The cmd window displayed: << JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO ~ $ (EE) Couldn't open compiled keymap file /tmp/server-0.xkm (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap (--) 3 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 512 384 winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress >> I'll stop now. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Thu Sep 15 09:39:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:39:00 -0000 Subject: Using Cygwin instead of SFU 3.5? Message-ID: Hello What got me into Cygwin and the problems I'm having is the need to practice with a product prior to a Proof of Concept. The product has a fairly complex install - which I will take a step at a time. It can run in various Unix flavours and Windows. However, for Win it states that you need to install Services For Unix 3.5. I've not been able to get the download to work. So I decided to try reversing things by installing in Vmware/Linux and accessing from Win. >From what I have seen ('learned' is perhaps too strong a word) over the past two days, Cygwin - or maybe it's just the bash shell - might be able to function as a substitute. As of now, I have no idea how the product invokes SFU, neither to I have any idea how the product (or any other) would invoke Cygwin 'from outside', so to speak. Can anyone offer a clue as to how I can integrate Cygwin in to Windows so that it will support apps running in Windows like my product? Could it be as simple as adding to PATH permanently, the same directories used in startxwin.bat? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Thu Sep 15 11:38:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:38:00 -0000 Subject: Can't display remote clients Message-ID: Apologies if I'm pumping out too much information on my problems. Have gone through the User Guide in search of inspiration. At the end in the section on Displaying Remote Clients - Telnet, I thought I'd found a possibility - sadly no. However, the results might provide a cue as to why my install / system is failing to work. >From the manual: 1. Make sure you have the inetutils package installed. ==> I did not have this as it was not in the X11 package. Found it and installed. 2. Launch Cygwin/X ==> I assumed this meant runing cygwin.bat to start bash. Took a long time, but eventually got a $ prompt. 3. In an X terminal type /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost remote_hostname_or_ip_address ==> This failed - maybe there's a good clue here, especially the "" for display name? << JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO ~ $ /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost rhlwasone /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost: unable to open display "" >> 4. In an X terminal type /usr/bin/telnet remote_hostname_or_ip_address.Use the explicit path to ensure that Cygwin's telnet is run instead of Microsoft's telnet; Microsoft's telnet will crash on startup when run from Cygwin/X. 5. Login to your remote machine via your telnet session 6. In your telnet session type, DISPLAY=windows_hostname_or_ip_address:0.0 7. In your telnet session type, export DISPLAY ==> I continued to see what would happen. << JOrmerod@EREBOR-JO ~ $ /usr/bin/telnet rhlwasone Trying 192.168.183.128... Connected to rhlwasone. Escape character is '^]'. Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) Kernel 2.4.18-14 on an i686 login: ormeroj Password: Last login: Thu Sep 15 08:11:40 from ereborjo [ormeroj@wasone ormeroj]$ DISPLAY=ereborjo:0.0 [ormeroj@wasone ormeroj]$ export DISPLAY >> 8. You can now launch remote X clients in your telnet session, for example, xterm& will launch an xterm running on your remote host that will display on your Cygwin/X screen. ==> << [ormeroj@wasone ormeroj]$ xterm & [1] 5066 [ormeroj@wasone ormeroj]$ xterm Xt error: Can't open display: ereborjo:0.0 >> John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Thu Sep 15 13:11:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:11:00 -0000 Subject: Can't display remote clients Message-ID: John Ormerod wrote: you have to give permissions for remotes hosts to open apps on your server. in a cygwin bash prompt enter $ xhost + note that this will give 'everyone' permissions to open a window on your server. you could do $ xhost ip-addr-of-machine-you-want-to-allow-to-open-apps or man xhost to see more info. It should not take more than a few seconds to open a cygwin bash prompt. If i dbl-click on cygwin-bat, it takes about 3 secs for a bash prompt window to be ready for use. 2+ghz intel, with 1GB ram. same with my home machine 2500XP athlon with 512MB ram. ( i normally open a bash session in rxvt ( can't stand cmd.exe ), and it also takes ~3 secs to be ready ) My suggestion is this. make sure no cygwin processes are running ( ps -ef ) return to www.cygwin.com, re-run setup for cygwin, selecting to re-install all of the non-X applications that you have installed. When that has completed, re-run setup again, selecting to re-install all of the X applications that you have installed. go ahead and reboot. ( shouldn't be necessary, but lets do so anyway) dbl-click on c:\cygwin\cygwin.bat Make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin is in your PATH. $ echo $PATH ( if not in there, export PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin)( you can add this to your .bashrc or .bash_profile if needed) Make sure the display is set correctly: $ env |grep DISPLAY ( what does this show ) Mine: $ env |grep DISP DISPLAY=:0 run $ startxwin.sh & open another bash shell via cygwin.bat run $ xterm reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From f.couillard@formatys.com Thu Sep 15 13:54:00 2005 From: f.couillard@formatys.com (Francois Couillard) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:54:00 -0000 Subject: Could not init font path element problem Message-ID: <43297E1B.2080205@formatys.com> Okay when I'm trying to launch xwin from Cygwin prompt I get a "Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from list". In the Cygwin/X FAQ, they say to fix this problem by a. Open a Cygwin shell and run *umount /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts * -- When I do that, it just say "No such file or directory" even though it exist. Probably isn't mounted I guess. What's that mean? Then I have to reinstall the xorg font package. I tried to no avail. How can I get the correct font element? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Thu Sep 15 14:05:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:05:00 -0000 Subject: Can't display remote clients Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC50@exchangema.allegromicro.com> When I first downloaded and installed cygwin my ulterior motive was - "if there are free complex stuffs like FTP servers, J2EE servers, Java IDEs, etc, there must be a free piece of software for X/Win on Windows." My ulterior was, where I would prove to those charging an arm and some toes and yet would not do a proper job in what they sell. But to my dismay, cygwin as installed would not work. It kept giving me "cygwin1.dll not found". Some two months later I made another attempt. Somehow, somewhere, somewhat, the installation went as smoothly as sailboat gliding down the calm Casco Bay on a warm summer day. My impression was my success was due to my visiting a till now yet unrecallable site which preset all the download choices so that it knew that my motive was to use X/win. Don't you hate it after a PC shop (which should remain nameless) had acquired a venerable mini- mainframe shop (which too should remain unnamed but whose founder once berated that the difference between Unix and his venerable system was the dismally small number of shelves it takes to house all of Unix manuals) - that when I tried to access some information on the acquiree's product, the links point me to the acquirer's site, which in turn pointed me back to the acquiree web site. Not directly but, going through the pretense of navigating a few links before lopping the ball back-and-forth onto each other's court. Fortunately, that PC shop was itself later acquired by a more coherently customer-focused company. This convoluted and obsfuscating email illustrate my frustration getting information and education about how to set up cygwin properly. That when setting up to use cygwin/X-Free, my proper attitude should be - it is cygwin that I am setting up and X-Free is a beneficial ported software. There might be, but it is not within my ineffable capability to find a unified coherent instructional site on cygwin applications. Despite the fact that not having cygwin/X, cygwin is nearly useless for most people, who seems to have similar motivation (or mismotivation) to mine. In my opinion, the orthogonality maintained between cygwin information and cygwin/X information is an unhelpful myth for participants like myself. But I have to bear in mind, that cygwin presents itself to me as a loosely confederated people like me, unlike the more tight-knit Tomcat, Eclipse or NetBeans projects with major interest sponsors behind them. On the other hand in cygwin, probably but not necessarily and not limited to people struggling between embattled personal lives and enthusiasm for communal software. Bearing in mind, therefore, it is therefore not free ware. It costs me to find and look and experiment. Therefore, I recommend that the confederation of cygwin users and porters collaborate to maintain a dependency chart page - which shows for example, if I wanted cygwin/X, what modules could be recommended selected when running setup.exe. Also, many emails seem to point to the confusion between an XDM and an XWM. That people installed cygwin/X but their xterms and xclock just piled up unmoveably at the top left corner of the X frame. This amount of confusion does point to a need for a more unified web site and cygwin organisation. If you (the venerable leaders of cygwin, i.e.) agree and need help, "hineni". -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of John Ormerod Sent: Thu, September 15, 2005 7:38 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Can't display remote clients Apologies if I'm pumping out too much information on my problems. Have gone through the User Guide in search of inspiration. At the end in the section on Displaying Remote Clients - Telnet, I thought I'd found a possibility - sadly no. However, the results might provide a cue as to why my install / system is failing to work. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From kdibble@alltel.net Thu Sep 15 14:20:00 2005 From: kdibble@alltel.net (Ken Dibble) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:20:00 -0000 Subject: Could not init font path element problem In-Reply-To: <43297E1B.2080205@formatys.com> References: <43297E1B.2080205@formatys.com> Message-ID: <20050915142010.GA17055@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:58:51AM -0400, Francois Couillard wrote: > Okay when I'm trying to launch xwin from Cygwin prompt I get a "Could > not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from > list". > > In the Cygwin/X FAQ, they say to fix this problem by > a. Open a Cygwin shell and run *umount /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > * -- When I do that, it just say "No such file or directory" even though > it exist. Probably isn't mounted I guess. What's that mean? > > Then I have to reinstall the xorg font package. I tried to no avail. > > How can I get the correct font element? Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > Unless you want those fonts for a particular reason, I wouldn't worry about it, as those type errors are non-fatal. My Cygwin/X runs fine with the following errors: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! Regards, Ken -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Thu Sep 15 14:42:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: Can't display remote clients In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC50@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC50@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <20050915144237.GB23019@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:08:15AM -0400, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: >When I first downloaded and installed cygwin my ulterior motive was - >"if there are free complex stuffs like FTP servers, J2EE servers, Java >IDEs, etc, there must be a free piece of software for X/Win on >Windows." My ulterior was, where I would prove to those charging an arm >and some toes and yet would not do a proper job in what they sell. > >But to my dismay, cygwin as installed would not work. It kept giving >me "cygwin1.dll not found". Some two months later I made another >attempt. Somehow, somewhere, somewhat, the installation went as >smoothly as sailboat gliding down the calm Casco Bay on a warm summer >day. Since there are no details here, it is impossible to know what went wrong. However, since "cygwin1.dll" is the main engine behind every cygwin program, it's hard to see what you did wrong when installing unless you went out of your way to de-select it when you ran setup.exe. >My impression was my success was due to my visiting a till now yet >unrecallable site which preset all the download choices so that it knew >that my motive was to use X/win. So, you went to some non-cygwin site and used some unsupported method to install. It's a shame that you can't remember where you went since you'd undoubtedly want to complain there. As a clue, the way to install X is to click on "Install Cygwin Now!" on the web site, hit Next until you have to choose a mirror, choose a mirror, and then once you get to the "Select Packages" screen click on the "Default" next to "X11" until it says "Install". Then keep clicking on "Next". Then you run c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat to start X. The rest of your message was too convoluted and obfuscating to really make much sense of, so >[snip] -- Christopher Faylor spammer? -> aaaspam@sourceware.org Cygwin Co-Project Leader aaaspam@duffek.com TimeSys, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Thu Sep 15 15:10:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:10:00 -0000 Subject: Can't display remote clients Message-ID: Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > When I first downloaded and installed cygwin > my ulterior motive was - "if there are free > complex stuffs like FTP servers, J2EE servers, > Java IDEs, etc, there must be a free piece of > software for X/Win on Windows." My ulterior > was, where I would prove to those charging an > arm and some toes and yet would not do a proper > job in what they sell. when it's all said and done it's pretty simple, go to www.cygwin.com, run setup to install base packages. Run setup again to install X packages. I think that the pages http://x.cygwin.com/ and www.cygwin.com and http://cygwin.com/docs.html provide pretty straightforward instructions. Downloading and Installing Install Cygwin/X now Cygwin/X is installed via Cygwin's setup.exe and the installation process is documented in the Cygwin/X User's Guide. Whether or not you already have Cygwin installed, you can add Cygwin/X to your installation by downloading the latest setup.exe, running setup, and selecting the 'xorg-x11-base' package from the 'X11' category. Using Cygwin/X is documented in a step-by-step manner, with lots of pictures and examples, in the Cygwin/X User's Guide. Please notice, however, that Cygwin/X contains many general-purpose programs, libraries, and functions that are part of all X distributions. It is therefore beyond the scope of the Cygwin/X User's Guide to document all of these X Window System components. To find documentation, for example, for setxkbmap one should consult the generic X documentation such as the SETXKBMAP(1) manual page. You could always, of course, do a Google search for setxkbmap, which finds the manual page mentioned above. reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 15:46:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:46:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) In-Reply-To: <34987.4408137568$1126771565@news.gmane.org> References: <34987.4408137568$1126771565@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: John Ormerod wrote: > The X icon in the system tray does not respond to any mouse clicks. Weird. This one is beyond me. > I also wonder if the 'xterm' should open an xterm window in Windows? It > doesn't. It should, once Xwin.exe (which also produces the X icon) is running. > FWIW, my windows PATH is 897 bytes when %xxx% symbolics are resolved. So > when the .bat scripts append to the front it may be getting to whatever > limit Windows has these days, or a possible limit that Cygwin can handle. If you suspect PATH length may be an issue, try abbreviating it as a test (i.e., cut out a huge chunk of the directories it points to, and try Cygwin/X again). I doubt this is related, though. Does anyone know if Cygwin and Cygwin/X have been tested under VMware? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Thu Sep 15 16:02:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:02:00 -0000 Subject: Can't display remote clients In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050915160156.GA25724@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:06:00AM -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: >go to www.cygwin.com, run setup to install base packages. Run setup >again to install X packages. There is no need to make this a two step process. Just install everything in one go. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From linybob@hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 16:05:00 2005 From: linybob@hotmail.com (Bob B) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:05:00 -0000 Subject: persistent DISPLAY variable Message-ID: I have been using Cygwin XFree for several years now and it has worked great. I mainly use it on Windows using XWin -ac -query 100.100.100.100 or similar to connect via XDMCP. This has been working great. I am quite experienced in X and Unix and know many of the X config files. At least I thought I did! Lately, my hostname seems to have been changed here at work and my PC now has a new hostname than it has had for the past few years. Consequently, I am unable to make XWin connect as it used to. I get an "Unable to open display oldhostname:0.0" message. My problem is that for the life of me I can not see where it could be getting "oldhostname" from. I have grepped every file I can think of under the Cygwin installation - in my home directory and all over and I can not find this name anywhere. I searched the Windows registry and do not see it. I do not see it set in Windows variables or Cygwin variables. I have repeatedly checked the DISPLAY variable and it is either not defined at all or I set it manually. If I define it manually in Cygwin before invoking XWin, XWin *still* tries to open a display at "oldhostname:0.0", not "newhostname:0.0". I've looked in files in Cygwin's /etc directory and can't find any reference to "oldhostname". As I recall, did XWin previously automagically set the DISPLAY variable? I just have an icon on my XP destop that has the properties Xwin -ac -query machineA. In XP there is no DISPLAY variable set. I do not see where XWin used to get the DISPLAY variable from. Is there a config file I am forgetting about? I am not using startx.bat or starxwin.bat or anything else. Just a direct invocation of Xwin.exe. But somehow Xwin.exe seems to be trying to open a DISPLAY at oldhostname:0.0 rather than newhostname:0.0 no matter what I do. Can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction? Thanks! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From brian@dessent.net Thu Sep 15 16:10:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:10:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) References: <34987.4408137568$1126771565@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <43299D16.EC090F87@dessent.net> Jack Tanner wrote: > Does anyone know if Cygwin and Cygwin/X have been tested under VMware? Yes, and both work fine. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Thu Sep 15 16:30:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:30:00 -0000 Subject: persistent DISPLAY variable Message-ID: Bob B wrote: does your queried host explicitely set your display to your oldhostname reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Thu Sep 15 16:30:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:30:00 -0000 Subject: persistent DISPLAY variable Message-ID: does COMPUTERNAME in your windows env show oldhostname or newhostname? reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From linybob@hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 17:23:00 2005 From: linybob@hotmail.com (Bob B) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:23:00 -0000 Subject: persistent DISPLAY variable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Where would it do that? How can I find out if the queried host is at fault? My Windows COMPUTERNAME is newhost. I have discovered that some queried hosts work fine, others that I try to connect to are doing this oldhostname thing. Maybe the Unix admins have XDMCP on the queried hosts screwed up and it is forcing the DISPLAY variable to be something incorrect. I don't think it is a problem on my side now. I also can't swear that oldhostname is in fact an old host name for my PC. I can't ping oldhost from any Unix box - I don't know where that name is coming from. >does your queried host explicitely set your display to your oldhostname > >reid > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 17:55:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:55:00 -0000 Subject: persistent DISPLAY variable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob B wrote: > Where would it do that? How can I find out if the queried host is at > fault? > > My Windows COMPUTERNAME is newhost. > > I have discovered that some queried hosts work fine, others that I try > to connect to are doing this oldhostname thing. Maybe the Unix admins > have XDMCP on the queried hosts screwed up and it is forcing the DISPLAY > variable to be something incorrect. > > I don't think it is a problem on my side now. > > I also can't swear that oldhostname is in fact an old host name for my > PC. I can't ping oldhost from any Unix box - I don't know where that > name is coming from. I wonder if the queried hosts are doing some sort of reverse DNS lookup, and finding that your newhostname doesn't match the DNS records. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From linybob@hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 18:04:00 2005 From: linybob@hotmail.com (Bob B) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:04:00 -0000 Subject: persistent DISPLAY variable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can ping my PC via new hostname from the queried hosts that I can't Xwin to. I can't ping oldhostname from anywhere on our network. >Bob B wrote: >>Where would it do that? How can I find out if the queried host is at >>fault? >> >>My Windows COMPUTERNAME is newhost. >> >>I have discovered that some queried hosts work fine, others that I try to >>connect to are doing this oldhostname thing. Maybe the Unix admins have >>XDMCP on the queried hosts screwed up and it is forcing the DISPLAY >>variable to be something incorrect. >> >>I don't think it is a problem on my side now. >> >>I also can't swear that oldhostname is in fact an old host name for my PC. >>I can't ping oldhost from any Unix box - I don't know where that name is >>coming from. > >I wonder if the queried hosts are doing some sort of reverse DNS lookup, >and finding that your newhostname doesn't match the DNS records. > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Thu Sep 15 18:24:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: persistent DISPLAY variable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> I wonder if the queried hosts are doing some sort of reverse DNS >> lookup, and finding that your newhostname doesn't match the DNS records. > I can ping my PC via new hostname from the queried hosts that I can't > Xwin to. I can't ping oldhostname from anywhere on our network. Don't ping. Instead, at your local machine, do $ hostname Is this what it should be, i.e., newhostname? $ ipconfig Does this return the IP address that it should? $ nslookup newhostname Does this match the IP address allocated to your machine? $ nslookup current-ip-address Does this match newhostname? Repeat for oldhostname as appropriate. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Cary_Jamison@Symantec.com Thu Sep 15 19:13:00 2005 From: Cary_Jamison@Symantec.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:13:00 -0000 Subject: Is my X Server not fully started? (Rel: 6.8.2.0-4) - results References: <4328B08F.1060405@ateb.com> <28346.960564568$1126770699@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: John Ormerod wrote: > Reid > > I did as you requested - see below. > BTW, there is a delay of 3-4 seconds for cmds like 'ps -ef'. Is this > normal? (Thinkpad T41 with 2Gb RAM) > >>> Open a cygwin bash shell, using cygwin.bat. > > I did this from cmd prompt. It appeared to be stuck for what seemed a > long time - though maybe it was actually between 30-60 secs. Then the > prompt came alive and resized itself. If you are seeing delays of 30-60 seconds just starting cygwin, I would start with trying to figure that out before moving on the the problems with X. Your unresponsive X server may be stuck on whatever is causing cygwin to delay starting up. I don't understand what you mean "the prompt came alive and resized itslef." The cygwin shell shouldn't be resizing itself when you just open it up. Perhaps try asking about this on the main cygwin list. Cary -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From harald.joerg@fujitsu-siemens.com Fri Sep 16 09:42:00 2005 From: harald.joerg@fujitsu-siemens.com (Harald Joerg) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:42:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? In-Reply-To: (Angelo Graziosi's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:56:04 +0200 (MET DST)") References: Message-ID: Angelo Graziosi writes: > As you can see in the mailing lists, I have posted this question > a few times. > > Now I have discovered somethings at which you can give a more adeguate > answer. > > The problem is that after "rebaseall" Emacs does not works, it takes > all the CPU and its window does not appear so that one can only kill > its process. > > After the new release of rebase-2.4-1, the problem remains > > BUT > > this time reinstalling, with "setup", ONLY the > package libncurses7 (whose current release is 5.3-4), > EMACS works again! > > Rebasing all and then reinstalling a package that has just rebased : > is it a valid procedure? > > Or should one expect that some other application does not work any more? Actually, I don't have an idea if this is a valid procedure. And to be honest, at this moment I don't even care. But today I ran into the same problem - and your trick just works for me, too. Many many thanks for posting this workaround. I guess it took you some hours to detect libncurses7 as a key component, but you certainly saved me the pain to try to re-install all cygwin. -- Cheers, haj -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin@cwilson.fastmail.fm Fri Sep 16 17:09:00 2005 From: cygwin@cwilson.fastmail.fm (Charles Wilson) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:09:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <432AFBE7.2000604@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Angelo Graziosi wrote: > After the new release of rebase-2.4-1, the problem remains > > BUT > > this time reinstalling, with "setup", ONLY the > package libncurses7 (whose current release is 5.3-4), > EMACS works again! > > Rebasing all and then reinstalling a package that has just rebased : > is it a valid procedure? Sure, this is fine. But what you're really saying is that one of the dlls in libncurses7 used by xemacs /usr/bin/cygform7.dll /usr/bin/cygmenu7.dll /usr/bin/cygncurses7.dll /usr/bin/cygpanel7.dll is not rebase-able. I'm not clear on the history; there was a time when a number of DLLs were considered "not rebase-able" but I don't remember why, or whether the issue was ever fixed (in rebase.exe, or in the DLLs themselves). *I* wonder, if xemacs were rebuilt against the CURRENT ncurses libraries (libncurses8), would it still have similar problems -- e.g. would you need to rebaseall and then reinstall libncursesEIGHT? If so, it's a problem I need to track down, as the ncurses maintainer. If not, then the XEmacs maintainer should simply release a new version, recompiled against the new ncurses. -- Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it Fri Sep 16 17:26:00 2005 From: Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:26:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Harald Joerg wrote: > Angelo Graziosi writes: > > > The problem is that after "rebaseall" Emacs does not works, it takes > > all the CPU and its window does not appear so that one can only kill > > its process. > > > > After the new release of rebase-2.4-1, the problem remains > > > > BUT > > > > this time reinstalling, with "setup", ONLY the > > package libncurses7 (whose current release is 5.3-4), > > EMACS works again! > > > > Actually, I don't have an idea if this is a valid procedure. And to > be honest, at this moment I don't even care. > > But today I ran into the same problem - and your trick just works for > me, too. > > Many many thanks for posting this workaround. I guess it took you > some hours to detect libncurses7 as a key component, but you certainly > saved me the pain to try to re-install all cygwin. > Even using the snapshots, the problem remains and every time one needs to rebase all one must reinstall libncurses7-5.3-4 if one wants Emacs to work. In any case I am on the alert to see what cause that. Best regards, Angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Fri Sep 16 17:54:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:54:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050916175358.GD30657@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:26:26PM +0200, Angelo Graziosi wrote: >Even using the snapshots, the problem remains and every time one needs >to rebase all one must reinstall libncurses7-5.3-4 if one wants Emacs >to work. Since this has nothing to do with Cygwin, AFAICT, there is no reason to think that a snapshot would fix the problem. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mikemn@gmail.com Fri Sep 16 18:19:00 2005 From: mikemn@gmail.com (Mike Hicks) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:19:00 -0000 Subject: Page Up and Page Down Message-ID: <619dc9480509161119be4a289@mail.gmail.com> Hi. I have what appears to be a plain US 104-key keyboard manufactured by/for Compaq. Using xterm, when I press the Pg Up key on the number keypad, I get the character sequence ^[[5~ and I get ^[[6~ for Pg Dn (^[ is actually a single character, escape). However, the Page Up and Page Down keys in that middle section between the number pad and main keyboard area produce different sequences, ^[Or and ^[Ou respectively. On my Linux box at home, I believe xterm always produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ I also use PuTTYcyg [http://gecko.gc.maricopa.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/] to use the Cygwin command line (since the Windows Command Prompt window royally sucks). It produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ for everything. (By the way, if you're at a command prompt, you can see what the shell is seeing by typing ^V prior to pressig the key.) Anyway, I've looked through the app-defaults for xterm, and haven't found anything obvious, so this must be hidden somewhere else. I'm not aware of anything I might have changed to cause this to happen. It is problematic, since vim expects the sequence produced by the keypad buttons, rather than the ones produced by the middle keys. TERM is set to 'xterm' in both xterm and PuTTYcyg. -- [ Michael Hicks | mikemn@gmail.com ] -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Fri Sep 16 18:22:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:22:00 -0000 Subject: My attempt to use Cygwin seems doomed to failure in spite of... Message-ID: ... all the willing help I've received - esp from Reid. I do appreciate you all taking the time to give me info and clues etc. My conclusion is there is something on my system that prevents Xwin.exe and / or xterm.exe from completely initialising. I've removed most of the original text of this apend, as while I was closing down my stuff, I spotted something! >From FAQ << 7.6. Why does Cygwin/X freeze right after startup? Zone Alarm 5 is known to break Cygwin/X. As a result you'll see this line (or a similar) as last output in /tmp/XWin.log Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" Disabling Zone Alarm will not solve this problem. You can only uninstall Zone Alarm 5 and switch to an earlier version (4.5 is known to work) or use a different personal firewall. >> I found this, but it is NOT in the xwin.log. By chance this time, I had started xwin.exe in a cmd prompt and I could see the stdout messages. These are pretty much what's in the log, except for the last line! ==> Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "gb" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" So, I guess that's it - it's ZA, bless it. I can't not use it, so I guess I can't use Cygwin. Shame, I was getting quite fond of it. As a long shot, I'll see if I can find the ZA forum and ask / search. BTW, I discovered what is making cygwin run slowly - it is vsmon.exe that runs when ZoneAlarm anti-virus checking is on (it usually is) - as soon as any X-component starts the cpu consumption for vsmon rockets. Thanks again everyone ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dickey@his.com Fri Sep 16 18:46:00 2005 From: dickey@his.com (Thomas Dickey) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:46:00 -0000 Subject: Page Up and Page Down In-Reply-To: <619dc9480509161119be4a289@mail.gmail.com> References: <619dc9480509161119be4a289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050916143114.S94703@mail.his.com> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Mike Hicks wrote: > Hi. > > I have what appears to be a plain US 104-key keyboard manufactured > by/for Compaq. Using xterm, when I press the Pg Up key on the number > keypad, I get the character sequence ^[[5~ and I get ^[[6~ for Pg Dn > (^[ is actually a single character, escape). However, the Page Up and > Page Down keys in that middle section between the number pad and main > keyboard area produce different sequences, ^[Or and ^[Ou respectively. > On my Linux box at home, I believe xterm always produces ^[[5~ and > ^[[6~ It sounds like your Linux system is running Redhat. I get lots of complaints about that (for instance earlier today ;-). For quite a while (I'm told it was corrected in Fedora) their package for xterm alters most of the key translations, lobotomizing it to look like someone's improvement to old xterm. A quick check on my system shows it producing \EOH and \EOF (though the correct answer depends on the resource settings of course). > I also use PuTTYcyg [http://gecko.gc.maricopa.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/] > to use the Cygwin command line (since the Windows Command Prompt > window royally sucks). It produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ for everything. ;-) > (By the way, if you're at a command prompt, you can see what the shell > is seeing by typing ^V prior to pressig the key.) > > Anyway, I've looked through the app-defaults for xterm, and haven't > found anything obvious, so this must be hidden somewhere else. I'm > not aware of anything I might have changed to cause this to happen. > It is problematic, since vim expects the sequence produced by the > keypad buttons, rather than the ones produced by the middle keys. > TERM is set to 'xterm' in both xterm and PuTTYcyg. Actually vim can use the termcap/terminfo settings (though I understand it has a built-in copy of one of the flavors for "xterm"). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Fri Sep 16 19:55:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:55:00 -0000 Subject: Page Up and Page Down Message-ID: Mike Hicks wrote: > Hi. > > I have what appears to be a plain US 104-key keyboard > manufactured by/for Compaq. Using xterm, when I press the Pg > Up key on the number keypad, I get the character sequence > ^[[5~ and I get ^[[6~ for Pg Dn (^[ is actually a single > character, escape). However, the Page Up and Page Down keys > in that middle section between the number pad and main > keyboard area produce different sequences, ^[Or and ^[Ou > respectively. On my Linux box at home, I believe xterm > always produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ > > I also use PuTTYcyg [http://gecko.gc.maricopa.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/] > to use the Cygwin command line (since the Windows Command > Prompt window royally sucks). It produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ > for everything. > > (By the way, if you're at a command prompt, you can see what > the shell is seeing by typing ^V prior to pressig the key.) > > Anyway, I've looked through the app-defaults for xterm, and > haven't found anything obvious, so this must be hidden > somewhere else. I'm not aware of anything I might have > changed to cause this to happen. > It is problematic, since vim expects the sequence produced by > the keypad buttons, rather than the ones produced by the middle keys. > TERM is set to 'xterm' in both xterm and PuTTYcyg. > > -- > [ Michael Hicks | mikemn@gmail.com ] if nothing else, remap the sequences in your .[g]vimrc file(s). Also, use setup to download rxvt and see if that provides you a better 'terminal' reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Fri Sep 16 20:00:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:00:00 -0000 Subject: My attempt to use Cygwin seems doomed to failure in spite of... Message-ID: John Ormerod wrote: > ... all the willing help I've received - esp from Reid. I do > appreciate you all taking the time to give me info and clues etc. > > My conclusion is there is something on my system that > prevents Xwin.exe and / or xterm.exe from completely initialising. > > I've removed most of the original text of this apend, as > while I was closing down my stuff, I spotted something! > > From FAQ > > << > > 7.6. Why does Cygwin/X freeze right after startup? > > Zone Alarm 5 is known to break Cygwin/X. As a result you'll > see this line (or a similar) as last output in /tmp/XWin.log > > Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" > Options = "(null)" > > Disabling Zone Alarm will not solve this problem. You can > only uninstall Zone Alarm 5 and switch to an earlier version > (4.5 is known to work) or use a different personal firewall. > >>> > > I found this, but it is NOT in the xwin.log. By chance this > time, I had started xwin.exe in a cmd prompt and I could see > the stdout messages. These are pretty much what's in the log, > except for the last line! > > ==> Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "gb" Variant = "(null)" > Options = "(null)" > > So, I guess that's it - it's ZA, bless it. I can't not use > it, so I guess I can't use Cygwin. Shame, I was getting quite > fond of it. > > As a long shot, I'll see if I can find the ZA forum and ask / search. > > BTW, I discovered what is making cygwin run slowly - it is > vsmon.exe that runs when ZoneAlarm anti-virus checking is on > (it usually is) - as soon as any X-component starts the cpu > consumption for vsmon rockets. > > Thanks again everyone > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > ------- > > John Ormerod > > erebor limited Sorry to hear that... I use http://www.free-av.com/ as my anti-virus -- no problems with cygwin or cygwin/X. and i use my modem/router's configuration to not expose my PC to the internet, rather than running a PC firewall. reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dickey@his.com Fri Sep 16 20:03:00 2005 From: dickey@his.com (Thomas Dickey) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:03:00 -0000 Subject: Page Up and Page Down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050916160130.B48516@mail.his.com> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Reid Thompson wrote: > if nothing else, remap the sequences in your .[g]vimrc file(s). that's a backwards solution (but as a last resort ;-) > > Also, use setup to download rxvt and see if that provides you a better > 'terminal' no - just to refresh my memory I ran it just now and see it does something comparable (different strings for the editing keypad, still not what he's expecting). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com Fri Sep 16 20:17:00 2005 From: daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com (Dan Armbrust) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:17:00 -0000 Subject: My attempt to use Cygwin seems doomed to failure in spite of... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <432B2851.3020009@gmail.com> Kind of off topic, but > and i use my modem/router's configuration to not >expose my PC to the internet, rather than running a PC firewall. > > This does not give you the same protection as running a PC firewall. A PC firewall allows you to determine which applications are allowed to make connections out to the internet. Since most bot-ware makes connections from your computer out to another server to do its evil, and to your router firewall, it just looks like you making another internet connection, it won't stop it. A PC firewall is much more effective at stopping the activities of most of todays viruses than a separate hardware firewall. Its a shame that the popular PC firewall vendors won't provide more help in fixing whatever causes the problems with Cygwin. FYI - I'm using Zone Alarm Pro 5.5.062 with Cygwin without any problems. Dan -- **************************** Daniel Armbrust Biomedical Informatics Mayo Clinic Rochester daniel.armbrust(at)mayo.edu http://informatics.mayo.edu/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it Fri Sep 16 20:36:00 2005 From: Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:36:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? Message-ID: Charles Wilson wrote: > *I* wonder, if xemacs were rebuilt against the CURRENT ncurses > libraries (libncurses8), would it still have similar problems -- e.g. > would you need to rebaseall and then reinstall libncursesEIGHT? > > If so, it's a problem I need to track down, as the ncurses > maintainer. If > not, then the XEmacs maintainer should simply release a new version, > recompiled against the new ncurses. Charles, as the title of this mail says, it is Emacs (21.2-13, 21.3.50-2, started from X), NOT XEmacs (21.4.17-1, 21.5.16-1), that has problems after rebasing all the system. The problem. ------------ There are applications that need rebasing (... unable to remap...). But after rebasing all, Emacs does not show its window and take almost 100% of CPU (one can only kill it). If one reinstall libncurses7-5.3-4, Emacs works again as it should. For what I know, Emacs is the only X application that has this problem. Cheers, angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin@cwilson.fastmail.fm Fri Sep 16 21:36:00 2005 From: cygwin@cwilson.fastmail.fm (Charles Wilson) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:36:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <432B3A78.6010109@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Angelo Graziosi wrote: > as the title of this mail says, it is Emacs (21.2-13, 21.3.50-2, started > from X), NOT XEmacs (21.4.17-1, 21.5.16-1), that has problems after > rebasing all the system. Fine, Emacs, XEmacs, whatever. That's not the point.... > > The problem. > ------------ > There are applications that need rebasing (... unable to remap...). But > after rebasing all, Emacs does not show its window and take almost 100% of > CPU (one can only kill it). If one reinstall libncurses7-5.3-4, Emacs > works again as it should. > > For what I know, Emacs is the only X application that has this problem. And, is it the only X application that links against an obsolete version of the ncurses library? e.g. is it simply that cygncurses-7.dll cannot be rebased without causing troubles for client apps -- and cygncurses-8.dll, used by all other X apps, is fine? The *E*macs maintainer should relink/rebuild *E*macs against cygncurses-8.dll, rebase, and see if the problem (e.g. the necessity of "undoing" the rebase of cygncurses-8.dll by reinstalling that package) remains. If the new *E*macs works with a rebased cygncurses-8.dll, then the problem is solved: cygncurses-7.dll is broken, and if it weren't obsolete it should be fixed. But, since it IS obsolete... Now, if the *E*macs maintainer does all this and the problem remains -- after rebasing, *E*macs is broken unless cygncurses-8.dll is reinstalled -- THEN we'll have something to talk about. -- Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it Fri Sep 16 22:17:00 2005 From: Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:17:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? Message-ID: Christopher Faylor wrote: > Angelo Graziosi wrote: > >>Even using the snapshots, the problem remains and every time one needs >>to rebase all one must reinstall libncurses7-5.3-4 if one wants Emacs >>to work. > >Since this has nothing to do with Cygwin, AFAICT, there is no reason to >think that a snapshot would fix the problem. I do not doubt that it is so. The first time I observed these problems with Emacs was when Cygwin-1.5-17-1 was released: reinstalling 1.5.16-1 all worked fine and I thinked that some snaps solved the problem. Successively I found that reinstalling libncurses7, effectively, solve the problem. But the habit to test snapshots remains! Charles Wilson wrote: >And, is it the only X application that links against an obsolete version >of the ncurses library? e.g. is it simply that cygncurses-7.dll cannot be >rebased without causing troubles for client apps -- and cygncurses-8.dll, >used by all other X apps, is fine? I cannot answer to these questions. I can only confirm that for what I know only Emacs has these problems. Best regards, Angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From John.Ormerod@erebor.co.uk Sat Sep 17 15:38:00 2005 From: John.Ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:38:00 -0000 Subject: FW: F71C0DC6B4FD3648815AAA7F969E35290194F566@sr002-2kexc.ateb.com Message-ID: From: John Ormerod [mailto:john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk] Sent: 17 September 2005 10:57 To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: F71C0DC6B4FD3648815AAA7F969E35290194F566@sr002-2kexc.ateb.com If the Subject line looks strange It's my guess at getting a 'references' line into this - I've noticed that moast replies have one, but I have to admit defeat in finding out how its done. No doubt the answer will be obvious once pointed out.... Ref Dan's comment>> FYI - I'm using Zone Alarm Pro 5.5.062 with Cygwin without any problems. I was on this level until a few weeks ago when I upgraded to 6.0 - so this may have gone backwards. There is a recent update to 6.0, but due to a gotcha with the Cicsco VPN client having to be installed after ZA, I have put this off. Maybe this patch will let Cygwin work. Maybe it's the combination of Cicsco VPN and ZA that actually upsets Cygwin. Might be the phase of the moon... We live in interesting times ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mikemn@gmail.com Sat Sep 17 16:04:00 2005 From: mikemn@gmail.com (Mike Hicks) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:04:00 -0000 Subject: Page Up and Page Down In-Reply-To: <20050916143114.S94703@mail.his.com> References: <619dc9480509161119be4a289@mail.gmail.com> <20050916143114.S94703@mail.his.com> Message-ID: <619dc94805091709044531116e@mail.gmail.com> [whoops, forgot to CC: this to the list] On 9/16/05, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Mike Hicks wrote: > > On my Linux box at home, I believe xterm always produces ^[[5~ and > > ^[[6~ > > It sounds like your Linux system is running Redhat. I get lots of > complaints about that (for instance earlier today ;-). For quite a while > (I'm told it was corrected in Fedora) their package for xterm alters most > of the key translations, lobotomizing it to look like someone's > improvement to old xterm. Actually, I use Debian, so who knows how up-to-date the program is ;-) Most of the time, I actually use aterm at home (i like semi-transparent windows), which produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ in the middle extended section, but ^[Oy and ^[Os for numberpad PgUp/PgDn. rxvt on my Linux box behaves the same as aterm. Curiously, while PuTTYcyg always produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ on the command line, it produces ^[Oy and ^[Os on the number pad when I go into using vim. I suppose that's from initializing the terminal into a different mode? Well, that's not one of your guys' programs, so I'm not sure if it's designed to work that way or what.. Heh, I finally came across your xterm FAQ [http://dickey.his.com/xterm/xterm.faq.html] in searching for how to set up X resources to change this, and I'll probably try adding lines like Prior: string(0x1b) string("[5~") \n\ Next: string(0x1b) string("[6~") \n\ KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\ KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy") \n ...when I get back to work on Monday That's probably all I needed, but I've had a heck of a time searching with Google about this topic since typing "^[[5~" in the search box only searches on "5". *sigh* -- [ Michael Hicks | mikemn@gmail.com ] -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dickey@his.com Sat Sep 17 17:03:00 2005 From: dickey@his.com (Thomas Dickey) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:03:00 -0000 Subject: Page Up and Page Down In-Reply-To: <619dc94805091709044531116e@mail.gmail.com> References: <619dc9480509161119be4a289@mail.gmail.com> <20050916143114.S94703@mail.his.com> <619dc94805091709044531116e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050917124719.C44718@mail.his.com> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Mike Hicks wrote: > [whoops, forgot to CC: this to the list] > > On 9/16/05, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Mike Hicks wrote: >>> On my Linux box at home, I believe xterm always produces ^[[5~ and >>> ^[[6~ >> >> It sounds like your Linux system is running Redhat. I get lots of >> complaints about that (for instance earlier today ;-). For quite a while >> (I'm told it was corrected in Fedora) their package for xterm alters most >> of the key translations, lobotomizing it to look like someone's >> improvement to old xterm. > > Actually, I use Debian, so who knows how up-to-date the program is ;-) > Most of the time, I actually use aterm at home (i like > semi-transparent windows), which produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ in the > middle extended section, but ^[Oy and ^[Os for numberpad PgUp/PgDn. > rxvt on my Linux box behaves the same as aterm. hmm - Friday's a bad day for thinking. I was looking at home/end yesterday. Pageup/pagedown are as noted \E[5~ and \E[6~ for the editing keypad. However, the point I was interested in is the effect of the control, shift, meta modifiers on the strings sent by the keys (based on your comment of "always" in combination with the keypad). While some of those are intercepted before xterm really sees them, it can (once it sees them) make them send more interesting combinations to the host, e.g., \E[6;5~ for control-pagedown. That all goes away with the hacked-up app-defaults file, since it changes the data before xterm can see it. While translations are useful, etc., there's no nice way to make them contingent on the application's state - so the packagers that set translations are removing functionality from xterm. Debian modifies the backspace/delete stuff, but otherwise doesn't get in my way regarding the app-defaults file. (I replace it anyway). > > Curiously, while PuTTYcyg always produces ^[[5~ and ^[[6~ on the > command line, it produces ^[Oy and ^[Os on the number pad when I go > into using vim. I suppose that's from initializing the terminal into > a different mode? Well, that's not one of your guys' programs, so I'm > not sure if it's designed to work that way or what.. long: That's part of the numeric keypad's application-mode. A vt100 does something like that. PuTTY and xterm differ according to how they support the vt100's PF1-PF4, and how NumLock is used. xterm also (barring packagers' changes to app-defaults files) has different keyboard styles for sending vt100- or PC-style codes for the numeric keypad. short: it's designed to work that way > > Heh, I finally came across your xterm FAQ > [http://dickey.his.com/xterm/xterm.faq.html] in searching for how to > set up X resources to change this, and I'll probably try adding lines > like > > Prior: string(0x1b) string("[5~") \n\ > Next: string(0x1b) string("[6~") \n\ > KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\ > KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy") \n > > ...when I get back to work on Monday > > That's probably all I needed, but I've had a heck of a time searching > with Google about this topic since typing "^[[5~" in the search box > only searches on "5". *sigh* yes - punctuation tends to be ignored. There aren't a lot of places to look anyway. Shuford's archive and vt100.net are useful for seeing more about the expected keypad behavior. PuTTY does have documentation, but I don't find it useful. If I want to know something about PuTTY, it's simpler to answer the question by reading its source code. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Sat Sep 17 17:31:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:31:00 -0000 Subject: Subject is not Reference (was Re: FW: F71C0DC6B4FD3648815AAA7F969E35290194F566@sr002-2kexc.ateb.com) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050917173116.GB32418@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 04:38:14PM +0100, John Ormerod wrote: >If the Subject line looks strange It's my guess at getting a >'references' line into this - I've noticed that moast replies have one, >but I have to admit defeat in finding out how its done. No doubt the >answer will be obvious once pointed out.... Wow. I thought I'd seen everything when it comes to people's confusion with sending email. I was wrong. The references line is added by your mail software when you *respond*to*the*message*. You don't add it to the subject. It makes no sense do do so. Please don't do this again. Adding a reference line as the subject doesn't help anyone. And, please don't add the headers to the body of the message either. That makes no sense either. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dorth@singnet.com.sg Sat Sep 17 21:28:00 2005 From: dorth@singnet.com.sg (dorth@singnet.com.sg) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:28:00 -0000 Subject: how to recover previous cygwin In-Reply-To: <20050917211612.89077.qmail@web32911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050917211612.89077.qmail@web32911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1126992484.432c8a647cdc0@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> --- exodus Viii wrote: Hi all, I was using cygwin ver 1.5.10-3. This afternoon i tried to setup the latest cygwin ver 1.5-18-1. But during the setup, my old version of 1.5-10.3 was corrupted, and now it is not working. how can i recover it? This is some error in ver 1.5-18-1 i.e nam could not be installed, that i need to revert back to my previous version of cygwin. is there any archive of previous version, i.e cygwin 1.5-10.3 and cygwin 1.3.22-1. Please advise, thank you very much. regards, klpang -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dorth@singnet.com.sg Sat Sep 17 21:30:00 2005 From: dorth@singnet.com.sg (dorth@singnet.com.sg) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:30:00 -0000 Subject: c++ compiler In-Reply-To: <20050917212010.84504.qmail@web32915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050917212010.84504.qmail@web32915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1126992607.432c8adf83698@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> Hi, i'm using cygwin ver 1.5.18-1. i have the following error, which i think is the C++ compiler not install. Please advise, if otherwise, thank you how to install it? I did select the gcc-g++ during the installation. but when i do a $ gcc-g++ bash: gcc-g++: command not found $ cygcheck -c gcc Cygwin Package Information Package Version Status gcc 3.4.4-1 OK $ cygcheck -c gcc-g++ Cygwin Package Information Package Version Status gcc-g++ 3.4.4-1 OK sendMHopRequest: 41 sending Route Request, dst: 11 at 415.588436 recvMHopRequest - 71: clusterhead sending reply, requested node=41, dst=11 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x004e345a in AODV::findGateway (this=0x1159278, sourceNode=5, dst=11) at aodv/aodv.cc:5599 5599 gatewayPath_buffer[shortestdist] = lrdbfound->mh_lnbgateway; Current language: auto; currently c++ (gdb) Please help, thank you very much regards, klpang -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dorth@singnet.com.sg Sat Sep 17 21:36:00 2005 From: dorth@singnet.com.sg (dorth@singnet.com.sg) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:36:00 -0000 Subject: could not find /tmp Message-ID: <1126992956.432c8c3c13a3d@discus.singnet.com.sg> hi all, how to resolve this error, please advise, thank you bash.exe: warning: could not find /tmp, please create! bash-2.05b$ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From djdarland@qconline.com Sat Sep 17 22:56:00 2005 From: djdarland@qconline.com (Dennis J. Darland) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:56:00 -0000 Subject: c++ compiler In-Reply-To: <1126992607.432c8adf83698@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> References: <20050917212010.84504.qmail@web32915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1126992607.432c8adf83698@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> Message-ID: <432C9F02.1080805@qconline.com> The command is simply "g++". Dennis J. Darland Treasurer of the Bertrand Russell Society, Inc. djdarland@qconline.com Solve Systems of Ordinary Differential Equations (Sode) http://sode.sourceforge.net dorth@singnet.com.sg wrote: >Hi, > >i'm using cygwin ver 1.5.18-1. >i have the following error, which i think is the C++ compiler not install. >Please advise, if otherwise, thank you > >how to install it? >I did select the gcc-g++ during the installation. but when i do a > >$ gcc-g++ >bash: gcc-g++: command not found > >$ cygcheck -c gcc >Cygwin Package Information >Package Version Status >gcc 3.4.4-1 OK > >$ cygcheck -c gcc-g++ >Cygwin Package Information >Package Version Status >gcc-g++ 3.4.4-1 OK > > > >sendMHopRequest: 41 sending Route Request, dst: 11 at 415.588436 > recvMHopRequest - 71: clusterhead sending reply, requested node=41, dst=11 >Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. >0x004e345a in AODV::findGateway (this=0x1159278, sourceNode=5, dst=11) > at aodv/aodv.cc:5599 >5599 gatewayPath_buffer[shortestdist] = >lrdbfound->mh_lnbgateway; >Current language: auto; currently c++ >(gdb) > > >Please help, thank you very much > > >regards, > >klpang > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > > > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From _sir_william_wallace@yahoo.com Sat Sep 17 23:22:00 2005 From: _sir_william_wallace@yahoo.com (William Wallace) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:22:00 -0000 Subject: problem compiling code with OpenGL calls In-Reply-To: <432C9F02.1080805@qconline.com> Message-ID: <20050917232202.81411.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> I trying to compile a simple .c program that I downloaded from sgi.com. I'm using the following to compile the program (works on my UNIX box...): gcc example.c -lglut -lGL -lGLU -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXmu -lm I get a slew of compile errors, for every OpenGL api call..For instance: /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/XXXXXXXX/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccMTvQUj.o:example.c:(.text+0x2a): undefined reference to `_glClearColor@16' I noticed something a bit odd. The documentation states that /usr/include/GL should contain the files: glut.h and gl.h, but I ONLY have glut.h. I took a look on my UNIX box at the missing gl.h file, and it turns out that all of the prototypes for these calls are in gl.h. Any suggestions? I'm puzzled as to why the glut stuff is there, but the opengl stuff is not.. Thanks, Scott __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Sat Sep 17 23:32:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:32:00 -0000 Subject: could not find /tmp In-Reply-To: <1126992956.432c8c3c13a3d@discus.singnet.com.sg> References: <1126992956.432c8c3c13a3d@discus.singnet.com.sg> Message-ID: <20050917233218.GA12685@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 05:35:56AM +0800, dorth@singnet.com.sg wrote: >how to resolve this error, please advise, thank you > >bash.exe: warning: could not find /tmp, please create! >bash-2.05b$ This has nothing to do with cygwin/x. Please use the main list. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reid.thompson@ateb.com Sat Sep 17 23:32:00 2005 From: reid.thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:32:00 -0000 Subject: could not find /tmp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <432CA407.9050706@ateb.com> dorth wrote: > > > hi all, > > how to resolve this error, please advise, thank you > > bash.exe: warning: could not find /tmp, please create! > bash-2.05b$ > creating /tmp should resolve it. mkdir /tmp -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From roamdad@sonic.net Sat Sep 17 23:46:00 2005 From: roamdad@sonic.net (Doug VanLeuven) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:46:00 -0000 Subject: c++ compiler In-Reply-To: <1126992607.432c8adf83698@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> References: <20050917212010.84504.qmail@web32915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1126992607.432c8adf83698@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> Message-ID: <432CA98D.1070101@sonic.net> dorth@singnet.com.sg wrote: > Hi, > > i'm using cygwin ver 1.5.18-1. > i have the following error, which i think is the C++ compiler not install. > Please advise, if otherwise, thank you > > how to install it? > I did select the gcc-g++ during the installation. but when i do a > > $ gcc-g++ > bash: gcc-g++: command not found > $ g++ g++: no input files Wish they were all this easy. Regards, Doug -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.doe99@gmail.com Sat Sep 17 23:46:00 2005 From: john.doe99@gmail.com (Jonathan) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:46:00 -0000 Subject: Some broken links in docs on x.cygwin.com Message-ID: I was looking at the Cygwin/X (compiled docs) FAQ on the website, to see if Cygwin esp. the Cygwin/X stuff would be useful for me. Anyway, noticed a few broken links and thought it'd be helpful if I notified somebody of them. Hope this mailing list is a suitable venue... I went into the #cygwinx IRC channel to enquire, but nobody was around at the time. My search of the mailing-list archive didn't bring up anything similar. My *nix experience level means I'm not - technically - able to provide a patch, myself. Best, - Adam. I've split it into two sections a) Broken links in the FAQ and other docs provided on the website and b) Comments on links in the website's compiled docs of format: text. == Broken links in the FAQ and other docs provided on the website == Page: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ Title: Cygwin/X Frequently Asked Questions | version: Last updated: 2004-04-04 Section title: 10.8. Where can I get help for installing DocBook on Cygwin? Summary: Broken link to external page - page not found. HTML version (and other formats of course, if they're all same version) Current link in FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/cygbook1.html Most recent Wayback Archive of that Compuserve docbook page, is dated Oct 20, 2004 [http://web.archive.org/web/20041020081458/http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/cygbook1.html]. However, a Google search for the author cited in the tutorial brings up Markus Hoenicka's _new_ website including the Cygwin guide linked from the FAQ, therein: http://www.mhoenicka.de/software/sgml/sgmlnt.html. The direct link to the HTML version of that guide (the linked compuserve webpage was to the HTML version) is: http://www.mhoenicka.de/software/sgml/tutorial/book1.html Probably easier to use that than the Waybacked one; since if he updates it in the future that'd obviously be the one he updated. :) Note: The same webpage is linked separately from the Cygwin Docs contributors guide at: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/cg/docs-docbook.html ..........I was going to send a note that I'd found that broken link so it could be fixed. Since I'd installed a Firefox extension that checked page links, I thought it might be useful to check for & notify y'all of any other broken links I could find. I didn't have time to locate replacement URLs for them all, since some are technical pages it's probably for the best so more *nix-savvy users can locate the pages; avoiding errors. FAQ 'Section 4.1.2. I there a way to add a layout to the list of autodetected?' Microsoft Global Dev website. - link broken FAQ 'Section 6.6. I get no login screen for Solaris' At 'Note:, ...'X Server manual page' and 'Fonts in X11R6.7' are both broken links. FAQ 'Section 7.4. I have a specific error message that is not addressed in the Error and Warning Messages section.' The 'Cygwin/X mailing list' hyperlink (its the second link) is broken. FAQ 'Section 7.5 My bug report the Cygwin/X mailing list was ignored. What do I do now?' The 'search the mailing list archives' link is broken. FAQ 'Section 11.2 What licenses apply to the X Window System source code?' The 'certified by the Free Software Foundation' link is broken There's a few broken links in the User Guide (HTML version) [http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html] too: accessed from link at http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/. At Chapter 4. Under 'Note:' the 'X Server manual page' and 'X Server XDMCP Options' are both broken links - returning a 404 error. Also, the Contributors Guide includes "Chapter 4 - Website Maintenance". [http://x.cygwin.com/docs/cg/website.html]. Some potential contributors might be dissuaded from helping out / thinking their input would be well-received though, given that the total content if that chapter is a single word and exclamation mark: ''Foo!'. == Links in the text version of the docs on the website == The text version of all three documents on the website have the links supposedly at the bottom Cygwin/X Contributor's Guide, Cygwin/X Frequently Asked Questions, Cygwin/X User's Guide. Links are relative in the case of other sections of the documentation and the few external links are absolute links. The relative ones are all of the type (example from users guide [http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.txt]: 11. file://localhost/mnt/d/ago/cygwin-x-doc/build/ug/dump.html#using-starting-sh If this is machine-specific with its mount point i.e. specific to the machine it was made on, then this isn't particularly helpful. If not then little harm was caused in my confusedly bringing it up ;). Also, some of the external links are referenced well in the above documentation, e.g. Chapter 4. Using Cygwin/X includes "You may wish to read the [46]Linux XDMCP HOWTO or the [47]X Server XDMCP Options for more information.". The references/endnotes then neatly give the URLs for no.'s 47 & 48. But... some referenced links such as 36 & 48, however, repeat the links already given in the body of the document; which give a numbered reference with the URL just given. I presume this is because the anchor tags label the link a URL rather than page title, currently. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From _sir_william_wallace@yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 02:42:00 2005 From: _sir_william_wallace@yahoo.com (William Wallace) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:42:00 -0000 Subject: problem compiling code with OpenGL calls (update) In-Reply-To: <20050917232202.81411.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050918024140.46393.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com> Well it looks like user error was to blame for my compile problems. After a couple of hours of searching, I was able to compile using the following: gcc example.c -o example -lglu32 -lopengl32 -lglut Now, my attempt to execute the program has hit a snag, I'm seeing the following error: $example.exe -bash:example.exe: command not found. (example.exe is definately in the directory) -Scott --- William Wallace <_sir_william_wallace@yahoo.com> wrote: > I trying to compile a simple .c program that I > downloaded from sgi.com. I'm using the following to > compile the program (works on my UNIX box...): > > gcc example.c -lglut -lGL -lGLU -L/usr/X11R6/lib > -lX11 > -lXmu -lm > > I get a slew of compile errors, for every OpenGL api > call..For instance: > > /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/XXXXXXXX/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccMTvQUj.o:example.c:(.text+0x2a): > undefined reference to `_glClearColor@16' > > I noticed something a bit odd. The documentation > states that /usr/include/GL should contain the > files: > glut.h and gl.h, but I ONLY have glut.h. > > I took a look on my UNIX box at the missing gl.h > file, > and it turns out that all of the prototypes for > these > calls are in gl.h. > > Any suggestions? I'm puzzled as to why the glut > stuff > is there, but the opengl stuff is not.. > > Thanks, Scott > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Unsubscribe info: > http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: > http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Sun Sep 18 02:44:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:44:00 -0000 Subject: problem compiling code with OpenGL calls (update) In-Reply-To: <20050918024140.46393.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050917232202.81411.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> <20050918024140.46393.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050918024413.GA17322@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:41:40PM -0700, William Wallace wrote: >Well it looks like user error was to blame for my >compile problems. > >After a couple of hours of searching, I was able to >compile using the following: >gcc example.c -o example -lglu32 -lopengl32 -lglut > >Now, my attempt to execute the program has hit a snag, >I'm seeing the following error: > >$example.exe >-bash:example.exe: command not found. > >(example.exe is definately in the directory) ...but not in the path. Try ./example cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From _sir_william_wallace@yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 03:05:00 2005 From: _sir_william_wallace@yahoo.com (William Wallace) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:05:00 -0000 Subject: problem compiling code with OpenGL calls (update) In-Reply-To: <20050918024413.GA17322@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <20050918030517.15450.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> Rookie mistake! Is this the correct forum for these types of issues? Thanks, Scott --- Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:41:40PM -0700, William > Wallace wrote: > >Well it looks like user error was to blame for my > >compile problems. > > > >After a couple of hours of searching, I was able to > >compile using the following: > >gcc example.c -o example -lglu32 -lopengl32 -lglut > > > >Now, my attempt to execute the program has hit a > snag, > >I'm seeing the following error: > > > >$example.exe > >-bash:example.exe: command not found. > > > >(example.exe is definately in the directory) > > ...but not in the path. > > Try > > ./example > > cgf > > -- > Unsubscribe info: > http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: > http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Sun Sep 18 03:25:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:25:00 -0000 Subject: problem compiling code with OpenGL calls (update) In-Reply-To: <20050918030517.15450.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050918024413.GA17322@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> <20050918030517.15450.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050918032523.GA18426@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 08:05:17PM -0700, William Wallace wrote: >Rookie mistake! > >Is this the correct forum for these types of issues? http://cygwin.com/lists.html describes all of the available cygwin lists. This is not the forum for questions about compiling or problems running programs, no. The main cygwin list is more appropriate. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From L-marks@northwestern.edu Sun Sep 18 15:15:00 2005 From: L-marks@northwestern.edu (L. D. Marks) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:15:00 -0000 Subject: Large memory usage by XWin.exe Message-ID: We have a (big) application which, among other things, does some analysis of images. We've noticed that when we open large pictures (4kx4k) and display then (part only on the screen) XWin is using a reasonably large chunk of memory, about 180M. This can lead to some user problems unless the CPU has a pretty large RAM, > 1G, because this seems to trigger some paging and things can get rather slow. I'd very much appreciate any suggestions about how to reduce the memory usage, assuming that this is not something intrinsic to the server (which would also be good to know). Note: if you have an old email address for me, please note that "nwu" has been changed to "northwestern". ----------------------------------------------- Laurence Marks Department of Materials Science and Engineering MSE Rm 2036 Cook Hall 2220 N Campus Drive Northwestern University Evanston, IL 60201, USA Tel: (847) 491-3996 Fax: (847) 491-7820 email: L-marks at northwestern dot edu http://www.numis.northwestern.edu ----------------------------------------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jkrahn@nc.rr.com Sun Sep 18 18:12:00 2005 From: jkrahn@nc.rr.com (Joe Krahn) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: problem compiling code with OpenGL calls In-Reply-To: <20050917232202.81411.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050917232202.81411.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <432DAE02.3040501@nc.rr.com> William Wallace wrote: > I trying to compile a simple .c program that I > downloaded from sgi.com. I'm using the following to > compile the program (works on my UNIX box...): > > gcc example.c -lglut -lGL -lGLU -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 > -lXmu -lm > > I get a slew of compile errors, for every OpenGL api > call..For instance: > > /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/XXXXXXXX/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccMTvQUj.o:example.c:(.text+0x2a): > undefined reference to `_glClearColor@16' > > I noticed something a bit odd. The documentation > states that /usr/include/GL should contain the files: > glut.h and gl.h, but I ONLY have glut.h. > ... OpenGL is a bit confusing in Cygwin, because you can compile programs to use Win32 WGL or X11 GLX as your OpenGL provider. This is a case of using WIN32 libraries versus Cygwin libraries is useful, because GLUT provides all of the OS-dependent interface. The Win32 headers are in /usr/include/w32api (included by default?) and are linked with -lOPENGL32. The X11 headers are under /usr/X11R6/include and are linked with flags as you describe above. Joe Krahn -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk Mon Sep 19 08:25:00 2005 From: john.ormerod@erebor.co.uk (John Ormerod) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:25:00 -0000 Subject: Apologies over using Subject line for 'reference' Message-ID: This might be off-subject, but I think has a general reference. I've used forums (or fora) and newsgroups for years, but I've never come across this format before. I couldn't find any guidance on how to use it, so it's all been guesswork - my first attempt had a subject something like "Testing" as I was unsure about the use of 'xxxx at yyyy dot com' rather than xxx@yyy.com for example. I've had a few responses appear as an email, but most I can only see via the browser and there's no way to use that for a reply. I wondered how people were replying and getting the reference to form the discussion tree. And I'm still non the wiser, but at least I know what not to do now. Sorry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- John Ormerod erebor limited -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Mon Sep 19 09:24:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:24:00 -0000 Subject: Icon update .diff Message-ID: <200509190923.j8J9Nv2H028880@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Belatedly found an error in Joe's icon_and_class.diff patch:- http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-09/msg00028.html The system menu can be modified by the use of an .XWinrc file. In Joe's winmultiwindowwindow.c file patch SetupSysMenu is called directly instead of via the main WNDPROC with PostMessage (WM_INIT_SYS_MENU) to winmultiwindowwndproc.c. Reverting to the PostMessage/WM_INIT_SYS_MENU code, in both files, enables the 'Always on Top' system menu addition, for example, to work as intended. Thanks Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Mon Sep 19 10:16:00 2005 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:16:00 -0000 Subject: Apologies over using Subject line for 'reference' In-Reply-To: <200509190826.j8J8PwLo027338@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200509190826.j8J8PwLo027338@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050919101605.GB20844@calimero.vinschen.de> On Sep 19 09:25, John Ormerod wrote: > This might be off-subject, but I think has a general reference. I've used > forums (or fora) and newsgroups for years, but I've never come across this > format before. I couldn't find any guidance on how to use it, so it's all > been guesswork - my first attempt had a subject something like "Testing" as > I was unsure about the use of 'xxxx at yyyy dot com' rather than xxx@yyy.com > for example. You should consider to use a real mail client like mutt or Thunderbird instead of a browser. This is a mailing list, not a web forum or a newsgroup, despite the fact that it's possible to read and write this mailing list via gmane. See http://cygwin.com/lists.html for more information about the available lists. Please don't reply to this mail since that's going off-topic pretty quickly. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Mon Sep 19 15:33:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:33:00 -0000 Subject: Apologies over using Subject line for 'reference' Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, John Ormerod wrote: > This might be off-subject, but I think has a general reference. I've > used forums (or fora) and newsgroups for years, but I've never come > across this format before. I couldn't find any guidance on how to use > it, so it's all been guesswork - my first attempt had a subject > something like "Testing" as I was unsure about the use of 'xxxx at yyyy > dot com' rather than xxx@yyy.com for example. > > I've had a few responses appear as an email, but most I can only see via > the browser and there's no way to use that for a reply. I wondered how > people were replying and getting the reference to form the discussion > tree. And I'm still non the wiser, but at least I know what not to do > now. Sorry. FWIW, I mostly reply via the browser. See if helps. GMane also allows you to get a full raw copy of a given message to reply to. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Mon Sep 19 15:41:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:41:00 -0000 Subject: Apologies over using Subject line for 'reference' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050919154043.GC19080@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 11:32:48AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, John Ormerod wrote: >>This might be off-subject, but I think has a general reference. I've >>used forums (or fora) and newsgroups for years, but I've never come >>across this format before. I couldn't find any guidance on how to use >>it, so it's all been guesswork - my first attempt had a subject >>something like "Testing" as I was unsure about the use of 'xxxx at yyyy >>dot com' rather than xxx@yyy.com for example. >> >>I've had a few responses appear as an email, but most I can only see >>via the browser and there's no way to use that for a reply. I wondered >>how people were replying and getting the reference to form the >>discussion tree. And I'm still non the wiser, but at least I know what >>not to do now. Sorry. > >FWIW, I mostly reply via the browser. See if > helps. GMane also >allows you to get a full raw copy of a given message to reply to. I'm sure that gmane gets the references right without any extra head standing. The OP did not use gmane. If he had, we wouldn't be having this off-topic discussion. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From James.Bassett@txu.com Mon Sep 19 19:54:00 2005 From: James.Bassett@txu.com (James.Bassett@txu.com) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:54:00 -0000 Subject: Pseudo Colors on Solaris Message-ID: Greetings. I am new to CYGWIN (having used exceed for years) but have been studying it very intently for weeks now. I am having trouble getting a Sun Solaris screen to render correctly. It uses 8bpp pseudo. If I run xwin normally, I get a very dark screen (like the backlight is out on my LCD). If I set xwin to use 256 colors in the compatibility tab, my XP desktop drops to 8bpp and I can see my Solaris screen but the colors are all wrong (white is red, red is red, blue is green, ...). Xwininfo.exe claims it is Pseudo color. I tested MI/X for a while using the same compatible settings. I got the same results with the exception of the colors were right on my Solaris screens (mostly). While searching the mailing list I see the last entries containing pseudo color also talk about "xwinemu2", is this the fix for this? I have searched for this file but can not find it (nether can my best friend 'Google'). I have also tried setting -cc, -co, -engine, ... with no luck or maybe I just don't know the correct numbers to feed them. Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. (Maybe some of my hair will grow back ; }) thanks jb James Bassett IT Analyst Sr. Enterprise IT Support 0401 MLSES Plant Office 903836-6257 Cell 903235-7915 MCSE+I (NT4) MCSE (NT4 & W2K) MCDBA (SQL7 & 2K) MCSA CCNA Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the addressee. 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If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any attachments from your system. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Cary_Jamison@Symantec.com Mon Sep 19 23:27:00 2005 From: Cary_Jamison@Symantec.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:27:00 -0000 Subject: Apologies over using Subject line for 'reference' References: <20050919154043.GC19080@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 11:32:48AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, John Ormerod wrote: >>> This might be off-subject, but I think has a general reference. >>> I've used forums (or fora) and newsgroups for years, but I've never >>> come across this format before. I couldn't find any guidance on >>> how to use it, so it's all been guesswork - my first attempt had a >>> subject something like "Testing" as I was unsure about the use of >>> 'xxxx at yyyy dot com' rather than xxx@yyy.com for example. >>> >>> I've had a few responses appear as an email, but most I can only see >>> via the browser and there's no way to use that for a reply. I >>> wondered how people were replying and getting the reference to form >>> the discussion tree. And I'm still non the wiser, but at least I >>> know what not to do now. Sorry. >> >> FWIW, I mostly reply via the browser. See if >> helps. GMane >> also allows you to get a full raw copy of a given message to reply >> to. > > I'm sure that gmane gets the references right without any extra head > standing. > > The OP did not use gmane. If he had, we wouldn't be having this > off-topic discussion. Agreed. I've been using gmane for some time now without problems. This message should appear properly referenced, as I know my past posts have been. Cary -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From com.cygwin.cygwin@pooryorick.com Tue Sep 20 01:24:00 2005 From: com.cygwin.cygwin@pooryorick.com (Poor Yorick) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:24:00 -0000 Subject: xterm over ssh and X11UseLocalhost - solution Message-ID: <432F64BA.9020003@pooryorick.com> An FYI post for the archives. >From a local xterm on a Cygwin X server, I was able to open xterm windows to various remote hosts over ssh. However, on one fresh minimal installation of Debian Sarge ssh -Yf @ xterm (and other related commands) produced various errors: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication xterm Xt error: Can't open display: unable to open display I was able to open xterm's over ssh from other hosts. I installed xauth on the remote host: apt-get install xbase-clients I verified my configuration against the Cygwin/X FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-ssh-no-x11forwarding In the local xterm DISPLAY was set to localhost:0 and was exported. On a different remote host where xterm worked properly, /etc/ssh/sshd_config had the following line: X11UseLocalhost no But on the remote host with non-working xterm, the command "xauth list" showed no fully-qualified host names apart from localdomain: debian/unix:10 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx localhost.localdomain:10 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx localhost.localdomain:11 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx debian/unix:11 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx So this needed to be in sshd_config: X11UseLocalhost yes (which is the default) after restarting the ssh daemon on the remote host: /etc/init.d/ssh restart My xterm window appeared. The rest of this post is the sshd_config for that host, verbatim. -- Poor Yorick ---*** begin /etc/ssh/sshd_config # Package generated configuration file # See the sshd(8) manpage for details # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for Port 22 # Use these options to restrict which interfaces/protocols sshd will bind to #ListenAddress :: #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 Protocol 2 # HostKeys for protocol version 2 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key #Privilege Separation is turned on for security UsePrivilegeSeparation yes # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key KeyRegenerationInterval 3600 ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel INFO # Authentication: LoginGraceTime 600 PermitRootLogin yes StrictModes yes RSAAuthentication yes PubkeyAuthentication yes #AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys # Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files IgnoreRhosts yes # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts RhostsRSAAuthentication no # similar for protocol version 2 HostbasedAuthentication no # Uncomment if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for RhostsRSAAuthentication #IgnoreUserKnownHosts yes # To enable empty passwords, change to yes (NOT RECOMMENDED) PermitEmptyPasswords no # Change to no to disable s/key passwords #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes # Change to yes to enable tunnelled clear text passwords PasswordAuthentication no # To change Kerberos options #KerberosAuthentication no #KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes #AFSTokenPassing no #KerberosTicketCleanup no # Kerberos TGT Passing does only work with the AFS kaserver #KerberosTgtPassing yes #X11Forwarding no #(default) X11Forwarding yes #X11UseLocalhost yes (default - shown here for clarity) X11UseLocalhost yes X11DisplayOffset 10 PrintMotd no PrintLastLog yes KeepAlive yes #UseLogin no #MaxStartups 10:30:60 #Banner /etc/issue.net Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/sftp-server UsePAM yes -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From b.j.bacon@larc.nasa.gov Tue Sep 20 17:27:00 2005 From: b.j.bacon@larc.nasa.gov (Bart Bacon) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:27:00 -0000 Subject: running CygwinX with a limited user account Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20050920130845.01e10898@pop.larc.nasa.gov> To the Gurus of CygwinX, I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same machine, all users must have "computer administrator" privileges under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work around to allow users with "limited" privileges (such as my daughter) to access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a great product and hopefully a response to this question. Bart Bacon -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Tue Sep 20 19:56:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:56:00 -0000 Subject: running CygwinX with a limited user account Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC52@exchangema.allegromicro.com> I am running cygwin/X under XP/Pro power user not administrator and I have no problems (with cygwin/X, i.e.). However, I am connoisseur of all but guru of none. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Bart Bacon Sent: Tue, September 20, 2005 1:28 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: running CygwinX with a limited user account To the Gurus of CygwinX, I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same machine, all users must have "computer administrator" privileges under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work around to allow users with "limited" privileges (such as my daughter) to access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a great product and hopefully a response to this question. Bart Bacon \ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Sep 20 23:42:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:42:00 -0000 Subject: running CygwinX with a limited user account In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050920130845.01e10898@pop.larc.nasa.gov> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050920130845.01e10898@pop.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Bart Bacon wrote: > To the Gurus of CygwinX, > I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the > same machine, all users must have "computer administrator" privileges > under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work > around to allow users with "limited" privileges (such as my daughter) to > access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a > great product and hopefully a response to this question. It would help to know exactly what error messages you're getting from the "limited" account, but it sounds like the problem of not being able to overwrite either /tmp/.X11-unix or /tmp/XWin.log. X creates a directory in /tmp that is owned by the last user who ran X (and, of course, so is the log file). The next user may need to have administrative privileges to overwrite the directory and log. One possible solution is to have a different /tmp for your daughter's account -- see "man mount" for user mounts. Let us know if it helps. If not, please give a better description of your problem, with the steps to reproduce it and the error messages you see. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From james@3dengineer.com Wed Sep 21 13:45:00 2005 From: james@3dengineer.com (James Swift) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:45:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Message-ID: <433163F6.8080704@3dengineer.com> Hi, I'd just like to let you know this still happens with version 6.8.2.0-4 I'm running XP with service pack 2 and the lastest install of cygwin. cheers, James. --------------------------------------------------- From: David dot A dot Barr at Medstar dot net To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:44:17 -0400 Subject: bug: tool tip popups on minimized windows Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com I'm running release 6.7.0.0-12 with the arguments "-multiwindow -clipboard". I run the X11 version of Emacs (from the emacs-X11-21.2-13.tar.bz2 package) which has tooltip popup windows for the toolbar icons. Even after I minimize the window, I get the tooltips if I leave the mouse where the toolbar used to be. I just wanted to report the problem; I don't know if this is a known issue. I didn't see anything about it in the mailing list archives. Thanks, David -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From James.Bassett@txu.com Wed Sep 21 18:30:00 2005 From: James.Bassett@txu.com (James.Bassett@txu.com) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:30:00 -0000 Subject: Pseudo Colors on Solaris Message-ID: Greetings A little more info. I can very the color numbers in rgb.txt and the colors in my xterm windows will change. :) The colors in my solaris window do not change. :( I used an app that came with AutoIT to verify colors in the windows. When I slide the mouse over something red in a xterm window the app showed me the color number. I can change the '255 0 0' in rgb.txt to '255 40 40' and the app will show '255 40 40'. But in the solaris window, '255 0 0' always reads '255 0 0' no mater what I change in rgb.txt. Am I shooting in the right (or left) direction or do xwindow calls from an outside unix box not use color maps or settings on the localhost? Thanks for any direction or kind words. Jb Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the addressee. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, be advised that any reading, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any attachments from your system. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From julian_yap@yahoo.com Thu Sep 22 04:04:00 2005 From: julian_yap@yahoo.com (Julian Yap) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 04:04:00 -0000 Subject: Running Xwin at 100 dpi Message-ID: <20050922040444.43752.qmail@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, I run Xwin to start up my xserver and xterm. This is the script located in the cygwin install: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat My Windows installation uses 120 dpi fonts. Unfortunately, the xterm and xwindows programs are horrifically small in font. I've tried looking everywhere but I can't increase my font size. These are the current lines in my startxwin.bat of concern: run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error run xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l I have tried starting up Xwin with the following line but it doesn't change anything: run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -dpi 100 I also tried the following to specify the font path to no avail: run XWin -fp "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error Also, when I then SSH into a Linux machine, and run programs, like xterm or gvim, they are still small and not legible. Can anyone help me run Xserver at 100 dpi? Or another workaround? Regards, Julian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jyap@raywoodcommunications.com Thu Sep 22 05:43:00 2005 From: jyap@raywoodcommunications.com (Julian Yap) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:43:00 -0000 Subject: Running Xwin at 100 dpi In-Reply-To: <20050922040444.43752.qmail@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c5bf38$78932470$15020a0a@raywood.local> OK, I answered my own question and found my own answer through more testing. Modify startxwin.bat. Use this line to start up Xwin in 100 dpi mode: run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -dpi 100 Add this line to prepend the font path: xset +fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ Run your xterm and specify the font parameters. run xterm -fa "Lucida" -fs 10 -e /usr/bin/bash -l Later, Julian -----Original Message----- From: Julian Yap [mailto:julian_yap@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2005 2:05 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Running Xwin at 100 dpi Hi all, I run Xwin to start up my xserver and xterm. This is the script located in the cygwin install: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat My Windows installation uses 120 dpi fonts. Unfortunately, the xterm and xwindows programs are horrifically small in font. I've tried looking everywhere but I can't increase my font size. These are the current lines in my startxwin.bat of concern: run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error run xterm -e /usr/bin/bash -l I have tried starting up Xwin with the following line but it doesn't change anything: run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -dpi 100 I also tried the following to specify the font path to no avail: run XWin -fp "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error Also, when I then SSH into a Linux machine, and run programs, like xterm or gvim, they are still small and not legible. Can anyone help me run Xserver at 100 dpi? Or another workaround? Regards, Julian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From bobber.cheng@cystar.cn Thu Sep 22 09:12:00 2005 From: bobber.cheng@cystar.cn (Bobber Cheng) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? Message-ID: <4332755D.5070909@cystar.cn> Hi All, I search the post(http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2005-06/msg00627.html) at cygwin mailing list. Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice. Bests, Bobber Cheng -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mbardiaux@mediaxim.be Thu Sep 22 09:23:00 2005 From: mbardiaux@mediaxim.be (Michel Bardiaux) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:23:00 -0000 Subject: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? In-Reply-To: <4332755D.5070909@cystar.cn> References: <4332755D.5070909@cystar.cn> Message-ID: <433277E8.1090304@mediaxim.be> Bobber Cheng wrote: > Hi All, > > I search the post(http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2005-06/msg00627.html) > at cygwin mailing list. > > Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on > Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any > advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice. You will have to explain what you exactly meant by 'wine' and 'vnc' and why you dont want them. E.g. one possibility would be to run the windows app on a windows machine using *wine in cygwin*. > > Bests, > Bobber Cheng > -- Michel Bardiaux R&D Director T +32 [0] 2 790 29 41 F +32 [0] 2 790 29 02 E mailto:mbardiaux@mediaxim.be Mediaxim NV/SA Vorstlaan 191 Boulevard du Souverain Brussel 1160 Bruxelles http://www.mediaxim.com/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Sep 22 09:36:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? In-Reply-To: <433275B4.20300@cystar.cn> References: <433275B4.20300@cystar.cn> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Bobber Cheng wrote: > Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on > Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any > advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice. An alternative to Terminal client or cytrix is rdesktop. But besides that there is no working solution to wrap windows programs with X11. You might want to take a look at cygpeace which is not much more than a prove of concept which allowed to export winmine over x11. http://www.freedesktop.org/~ago/cygpeace/ Before begging X gurus (which btw is the wrong group to ask) you should check the win32-x11 archives http://sourceware.org/ml/win32-x11/ starting with July - September, 2002 until July - September, 2004. Some techniques for wrapping and redirecting windows GDI calls to X11 were discussed there but most of the initial activity vaporized after few months. Basicly there are a few ways which might work: - build a display driver which uses X11 as backend x11_drv from wine might provide the conversion to X11 calls - wrap GDI calls from applications with own, X11 aware implementations cygpeace aproach - Check how Terminal Client works and implement a backend which uses X11 instead of RDP bye ago BTW: Use rdesktop. -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From bobber.cheng@cystar.cn Thu Sep 22 09:43:00 2005 From: bobber.cheng@cystar.cn (Bobber Cheng) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:43:00 -0000 Subject: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? In-Reply-To: <433277E8.1090304@mediaxim.be> References: <4332755D.5070909@cystar.cn> <433277E8.1090304@mediaxim.be> Message-ID: <43327CB3.2000201@cystar.cn> Wine is a win32 emulator in Unix, *wine in cygwin* need to install lot of thing. The worst is that wine is currently under heavy development, many win32 apps could not run on it. e.g. IE. VNC will share whole screen, i hope only app's wins would be shared. Although some version VNC(TightVNC ) could share a window, but the result is pool. Unless some NX(http://www.nomachine.com/) cache tech integrate with VNC. it's not a consideration. Michel Bardiaux wrote: > Bobber Cheng wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I search the >> post(http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2005-06/msg00627.html) at cygwin >> mailing list. >> >> Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on >> Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any >> advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice. > > > You will have to explain what you exactly meant by 'wine' and 'vnc' > and why you dont want them. > > E.g. one possibility would be to run the windows app on a windows > machine using *wine in cygwin*. > >> >> Bests, >> Bobber Cheng >> > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From daniel@copyleft.no Thu Sep 22 09:46:00 2005 From: daniel@copyleft.no (Hr. Daniel Mikkelsen) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:46:00 -0000 Subject: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? In-Reply-To: <43327CB3.2000201@cystar.cn> Message-ID: <20050922114507.G30511-100000@unity.copyleft.no> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Bobber Cheng wrote: > Wine is a win32 emulator in Unix, *wine in cygwin* need to install lot > of thing. The worst is that wine is currently under heavy development, > many win32 apps could not run on it. e.g. IE. Wine runs IE: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ie6 -- Daniel Mikkelsen Copyleft Software AS -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Thu Sep 22 10:07:00 2005 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:07:00 -0000 Subject: xrdb needs cpp, but i do not need gcc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050922100657.GC24363@calimero.vinschen.de> On Sep 22 09:23, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote: > Seems that xrdb uses cpp when processing .Xdefaults, but cpp is only > included in gcc package. So xorg should depend on gcc but why not make cpp a > separate package since gcc is a very large package ? > > I have already asked this in cygwin.xfree without any answers. > > Any comments ? Wrong mailing list. Redirected to cygwin-xfree. Please follow up there. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dave.korn@artimi.com Thu Sep 22 10:21:00 2005 From: dave.korn@artimi.com (Dave Korn) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:21:00 -0000 Subject: xrdb needs cpp, but i do not need gcc In-Reply-To: <20050922100657.GC24363@calimero.vinschen.de> Message-ID: ----Original Message---- >From: Corinna Vinschen >Sent: 22 September 2005 11:07 > On Sep 22 09:23, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote: >> Seems that xrdb uses cpp when processing .Xdefaults, but cpp is only >> included in gcc package. So xorg should depend on gcc but why not make >> cpp a separate package since gcc is a very large package ? >> >> I have already asked this in cygwin.xfree without any answers. >> >> Any comments ? > > Wrong mailing list. No it isn't really, because the real question is "Could cpp be packaged separately from gcc", regardless of whether for an X app that needs it or otherwise, and the answer is "No, it can't be, because the preprocessor is built into the compiler these days, not a standalone like it used to be; the seeming standalone cpp.exe is just a driver that invokes cc1.exe with the -E flag". [ Historical note: And that's the reason why cygcheck always used to say >Not Found: cpp (good!) because when it was a standalone it used to live in the gcc-lib subdir and it was generally bad news if you got that in your $PATH, things used to break. ] cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today.... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Thu Sep 22 10:22:00 2005 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:22:00 -0000 Subject: xrdb needs cpp, but i do not need gcc In-Reply-To: <20050922100657.GC24363@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20050922100657.GC24363@calimero.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <20050922102226.GH12256@calimero.vinschen.de> On Sep 22 12:06, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Sep 22 09:23, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote: > > Seems that xrdb uses cpp when processing .Xdefaults, but cpp is only > > included in gcc package. So xorg should depend on gcc but why not make cpp a > > separate package since gcc is a very large package ? > > > > I have already asked this in cygwin.xfree without any answers. > > > > Any comments ? > > Wrong mailing list. Redirected to cygwin-xfree. Please follow up there. Ouch, sorry. I didn't read your mail completely, obviously. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dave.korn@artimi.com Thu Sep 22 11:19:00 2005 From: dave.korn@artimi.com (Dave Korn) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: xrdb needs cpp, but i do not need gcc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ----Original Message---- >From: Dave Korn >Sent: 22 September 2005 11:21 > ----Original Message---- >> From: Corinna Vinschen >> Sent: 22 September 2005 11:07 > >> On Sep 22 09:23, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote: >>> Seems that xrdb uses cpp when processing .Xdefaults, but cpp is only >>> included in gcc package. So xorg should depend on gcc but why not make >>> cpp a separate package since gcc is a very large package ? > No it isn't really, because the real question is "Could cpp be packaged > separately from gcc", regardless of whether for an X app that needs it or > otherwise, and the answer is "No, it can't be, because the preprocessor is > built into the compiler these days, not a standalone like it used to be; > the seeming standalone cpp.exe is just a driver that invokes cc1.exe with > the -E flag". Actually, that's too strong a statement. It _could_ be possible to make a package containing only cpp.exe and cc1.exe. But it wouldn't save you all that much over the gcc-core package: a couple of extra copies of the driver, a few small utils like [un]protoize and gcov, a couple of hundred kB of include headers and static libs, and the basic docs/info files; it would probably still need to be supplied with the language catalogs. OTOH, the dependency for xrdb should probably be only on gcc-core, not any of the remaining packages. That's probably the easiest compromise. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today.... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Brian.Willis@noaa.gov Thu Sep 22 13:51:00 2005 From: Brian.Willis@noaa.gov (Brian Willis) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:51:00 -0000 Subject: Pseudo Colors on Solaris In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4332B6B5.8040905@noaa.gov> I had this very same problem with HP. The way I got around it was to start a X session in fullscreen mode with the windowmanager of your choice in 8 bit color. Not a sexy solution, but it worked. For us it's only for a few apps. Brian Willis OHD/NWS NOAA James.Bassett@txu.com wrote: > Greetings > > A little more info. I can very the color numbers in rgb.txt and the > colors in my xterm windows will change. :) > The colors in my solaris window do not change. :( I used an app that > came with AutoIT to verify colors in the windows. When I slide the > mouse over something red in a xterm window the app showed me the color > number. I can change the '255 0 0' in rgb.txt to '255 40 40' and the > app will show '255 40 40'. But in the solaris window, '255 0 0' always > reads '255 0 0' no mater what I change in rgb.txt. > Am I shooting in the right (or left) direction or do xwindow calls from > an outside unix box not use color maps or settings on the localhost? > Thanks for any direction or kind words. > Jb > > Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, > > contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the > > addressee. 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If > > you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > > immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any > > attachments from your system. > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Sep 22 14:26:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:26:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/X keyboard layout problem In-Reply-To: <6DABE12DF62766479F2A94F7E3157C5F8C10AA@lisi053a.siemens.pt> References: <6DABE12DF62766479F2A94F7E3157C5F8C10AA@lisi053a.siemens.pt> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Jose Canelas wrote: > I got your e-mail from the > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/CygwinXTroubleShooting where you offer > help for misconfigured international keyboard layouts, and I believe my > problem matches your description. I'm not maintaining Cygwin/X anymore. But I'll redirect the mail to the Cygwin/X mailing list. > I had a functional, correctly configured X with cygwin, and when I > upgraded to the last version and Xorg my keyboard layout got wrong and > the layout reverted from PT to US. > > When I run: setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc104 -layout pt -option "" > I get this: Error loading new keyboard description > > I also tried the mount command (mount -b "$(cygpath -m /tmp)" /tmp) as > suggested at > http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-xkb-not-working to no > avail. > > I attach the complete Xwin.log but I think these are the relevant lines: > > (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000816" (00000816) > (--) Using preset keyboard for "Portuguese (Portugal)" (816), type "4" > (++) XKB: layout: "pt" > (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap > > I start it from a bat file with: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow > -clipboard -xkblayout pt > > Thank you for your time, > jmc > -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Jose.Canelas@siemens.com Thu Sep 22 14:29:00 2005 From: Jose.Canelas@siemens.com (Jose Canelas) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:29:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/X keyboard layout problem Message-ID: <6DABE12DF62766479F2A94F7E3157C5F8C1164@lisi053a.siemens.pt> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Jose Canelas wrote: > > > I got your e-mail from the > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/CygwinXTroubleShooting > where you offer > > help for misconfigured international keyboard layouts, and > I believe my > > problem matches your description. > > I'm not maintaining Cygwin/X anymore. But I'll redirect the > mail to the Cygwin/X mailing list. Oh. Sorry. And thank you. Regards, jmc -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From James.Bassett@txu.com Thu Sep 22 15:34:00 2005 From: James.Bassett@txu.com (James.Bassett@txu.com) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:34:00 -0000 Subject: Pseudo Colors on Solaris Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Brian Willis Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:51 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Pseudo Colors on Solaris I had this very same problem with HP. The way I got around it was to start a X session in fullscreen mode with the windowmanager of your choice in 8 bit color. Not a sexy solution, but it worked. For us it's only for a few apps. Brian Willis OHD/NWS NOAA James.Bassett@txu.com wrote: > Greetings > > A little more info. I can very the color numbers in rgb.txt and the > colors in my xterm windows will change. :) The colors in my solaris > window do not change. :( I used an app that came with AutoIT to > verify colors in the windows. When I slide the mouse over something > red in a xterm window the app showed me the color number. I can > change the '255 0 0' in rgb.txt to '255 40 40' and the app will show > '255 40 40'. But in the solaris window, '255 0 0' always reads '255 0 > 0' no mater what I change in rgb.txt. > Am I shooting in the right (or left) direction or do xwindow calls > from an outside unix box not use color maps or settings on the localhost? > Thanks for any direction or kind words. > Jb > > Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, > > contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the > > addressee. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, be > > advised that any reading, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying > > or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly > prohibited. If > > you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > > immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any > > attachments from your system. > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ Hi, thanks for the reply! I had thought about and tried that. When I do that I get really weird colors. (white is greenish yellow, red is blue-ish, ...) I also tried from windows setting XWIN to run in 256 colors from the 'compatibility' tab in properties. This worked also plus it let me use multiwindow but the colors were still messed up but not quite as bad. (red was red 255 0 0 but white was also red 255 0 0). When I do not do ether, I can sort of see the image but it is very very dark. I know it can be done because Exceed does it. I am currently looking for more info on how to use the -cc and -co. Maybe I can come up with some kind of custom mapping. The Sun box runs an app called blink_task to flash some of the colors so I know it is trying to change about 70 of the 256 colors to something custom. The more I dig, the deeper I get. Thanks Jb Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the addressee. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, be advised that any reading, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any attachments from your system. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk Fri Sep 23 08:57:00 2005 From: Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk (Phil Betts) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 08:57:00 -0000 Subject: Pseudo Colors on Solaris Message-ID: On Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:34 PM, James.Bassett wrote: > 0 0 but white was also red 255 0 0). When I do not do ether, I can sort > of see the image but it is very very dark. Don't do ether, do LSD. The colours will still be wrong, but they'll be really bright and you'll get far more than 256. (Sorry, couldn't resist - I've got that Friday feeling) Phil -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From James.Bassett@txu.com Fri Sep 23 14:04:00 2005 From: James.Bassett@txu.com (James.Bassett@txu.com) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:04:00 -0000 Subject: Pseudo Colors on Solaris Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Phil Betts Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 3:58 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Pseudo Colors on Solaris On Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:34 PM, James.Bassett wrote: > 0 0 but white was also red 255 0 0). When I do not do ether, I can > sort of see the image but it is very very dark. Don't do ether, do LSD. The colours will still be wrong, but they'll be really bright and you'll get far more than 256. (Sorry, couldn't resist - I've got that Friday feeling) Phil -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** -- : } Would make the colors better but, ..... Got to go, doing Hurricane Reti prep. I will get back on this after it passes. Thanks Jb Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the addressee. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, be advised that any reading, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any attachments from your system. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mariodosreis@yahoo.com Sat Sep 24 17:46:00 2005 From: mariodosreis@yahoo.com (Mario dos Reis) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:46:00 -0000 Subject: ssh and X server Message-ID: <20050924174643.37175.qmail@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have recently installed Cygwin on my home PC (WinXP). I have tried to ssh to a solaris system and then running netscape, gut I get the followig error message and netscape terminates: X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 73 (X_GetImage) Resource id in failed request: 0x3a Serial number of failed request: 121 Current serial number in output stream: 121 To be honest I have no clue of what's going on. I normally log onto the same solaris machine from my linux laptop at work, and have no problem running netscape. Thanks, Mario dos Reis. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From fxiong@uwm.edu Sun Sep 25 02:08:00 2005 From: fxiong@uwm.edu (fxiong@uwm.edu) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 02:08:00 -0000 Subject: I need help with cygwin. Message-ID: <1127613961.4336060989a19@panthermail.uwm.edu> I don't know what is wrong with my cygwin. After I install cygwin and type startx in the command line. A error have accurred, it says that a fatal error has occurred and Cygwin/x will now exit. Xwin was started with following command-line: X :0 -multiwindow-clipboard Can you help me. thank you. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Sun Sep 25 02:27:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 02:27:00 -0000 Subject: I need help with cygwin. In-Reply-To: <1127613961.4336060989a19@panthermail.uwm.edu> References: <1127613961.4336060989a19@panthermail.uwm.edu> Message-ID: fxiong@uwm.edu wrote: > I don't know what is wrong with my cygwin. After I install cygwin and type > startx in the command line. A error have accurred, it says that a fatal error > has occurred and Cygwin/x will now exit. Xwin was started with following > command-line: > X :0 -multiwindow-clipboard > Can you help me. > thank you. http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-fatal-error -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Sun Sep 25 04:10:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 04:10:00 -0000 Subject: ssh and X server In-Reply-To: <20050924174643.37175.qmail@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050924174643.37175.qmail@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Mario dos Reis wrote: > I have recently installed Cygwin on my home PC > (WinXP). I have tried to ssh to a solaris system and > then running netscape, gut I get the followig error > message and netscape terminates: > > X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) > Major opcode of failed request: 73 (X_GetImage) > Resource id in failed request: 0x3a > Serial number of failed request: 121 > Current serial number in output stream: 121 > > To be honest I have no clue of what's going on. > > I normally log onto the same solaris machine from my > linux laptop at work, and have no problem running > netscape. Does help? Look especially at the second and fourth answers. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From andy.glew@intel.com Sun Sep 25 13:47:00 2005 From: andy.glew@intel.com (Andy Glew) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:47:00 -0000 Subject: Problem using Cygwin, Dual Monitor, with External DVI Message-ID: I have a problem whereby X text does not render correctly, in a configuration involving dual monitors, an external DVI monitor in addition to the LCD monitor on my laptop. It renders in other configurations using these monitors and this laptop. I am using Cygwin/X [*] on an IBM ThinkPad T42p. The T42p is docked in an IBM 2878 docking station. The docking station is connected to an IBM ThinkVision monitor via a DVI cable. When I am in dual monitor mode (i.e. driving both monitors independently, with the external DVI monitor Windows' primary desktop), Cygwin/X applications such as xterm and GNU EMACS do not render on the external DVI monitor. Their X windows (I am running Cygwin/X in multiwindow mode, so their X windows are also Windows windows) are blank - nothing displays. When I drag these windows over to the secondary monitor, the laptop's LCD display, they render. Moreover, it is obvious that everything I typed while the window was on the external DVI monitor is now visible. Therefore, stuff is being added to X Windows' concept of what should be displayed on the window - it is just not getting sent to the screen. Similarly, when I drag the X windows back from the secondary, laptop, LCD, onto the external DVI monitor, the windows drag correctly. The old contents of the window display on the external DVI monitor, but nothing new gets drawn. --- However, when I am driving only the external DVI monitor, but not also driving the LCD at the same time, everything is drawn. That is how I am writing this message. --- Normally, at home I use Cygwin/X with an external analog video monitor in dual display mode with my laptop's LCD tablet. This is one of the first times I habve used an external DVI monitor. --- Configuration info: Now, how can I tell what versions of Cygwind and Cygwin/X I am running? The external DVI monitor is reported by Window's device manager as a Plug and Play monitor, on an ATI Monility Fire GL T2. The laptop LCD panel is an IBM Thinkpad 1400 x 1050 LCD panel, also on ATI Monility Fire GL T2. --- Andy Glew PREFERRED EMAIL: andy.glew@intel.com Although I am trying to quit Outlook, I fetchmail all of my Outlook/Exchange email to UNIX to read FALLBACK EMAIL: glew@ichips.intel.com 503-264-4119 Potential bias: employed now by Intel past by AMD, Intel, Motorola, Gould ... This post is personal, and is not the opinion of any of my employers, past or present. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Sun Sep 25 16:42:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:42:00 -0000 Subject: Problem using Cygwin, Dual Monitor, with External DVI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Andy Glew wrote: > I have a problem whereby X text does not render correctly, in a > configuration involving dual monitors, an external DVI monitor in > addition to the LCD monitor on my laptop. It renders in other > configurations using these monitors and this laptop. > > I am using Cygwin/X [*] on an IBM ThinkPad T42p. The T42p is docked in ^^^ Did you mean to include a footnote for this? > an IBM 2878 docking station. The docking station is connected to an > IBM ThinkVision monitor via a DVI cable. > > When I am in dual monitor mode (i.e. driving both monitors > independently, with the external DVI monitor Windows' primary > desktop), Cygwin/X applications such as xterm and GNU EMACS do not > render on the external DVI monitor. Their X windows (I am running > Cygwin/X in multiwindow mode, so their X windows are also Windows > windows) are blank - nothing displays. > > When I drag these windows over to the secondary monitor, the laptop's > LCD display, they render. Moreover, it is obvious that everything I > typed while the window was on the external DVI monitor is now visible. > Therefore, stuff is being added to X Windows' concept of what should > be displayed on the window - it is just not getting sent to the > screen. > > Similarly, when I drag the X windows back from the secondary, laptop, > LCD, onto the external DVI monitor, the windows drag correctly. The > old contents of the window display on the external DVI monitor, but > nothing new gets drawn. > > --- > > However, when I am driving only the external DVI monitor, but not also > driving the LCD at the same time, everything is drawn. That is how I > am writing this message. > > --- > > Normally, at home I use Cygwin/X with an external analog video monitor > in dual display mode with my laptop's LCD tablet. This is one of the > first times I habve used an external DVI monitor. > > --- > > Configuration info: > > Now, how can I tell what versions of Cygwind and Cygwin/X I am running? Attaching the output of "uname -svr" and /tmp/XWin.log is usually enough for most X problems. For general Cygwin problems, it's best to attach the output of "cygcheck -svr", as requested in the Cygwin problem reporting guidelines at . > The external DVI monitor is reported by Window's device manager as a > Plug and Play monitor, on an ATI Monility Fire GL T2. > > The laptop LCD panel is an IBM Thinkpad 1400 x 1050 LCD panel, also on > ATI Monility Fire GL T2. That said, let me take a guess: try using the -multiplemonitors option of XWin, and see if it solves your problem. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From markalgf@gerrior.com Mon Sep 26 04:05:00 2005 From: markalgf@gerrior.com (Araceli Gray) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 04:05:00 -0000 Subject: Harrdcore Sex Witn Anime Message-ID: <838535859344.478492429771@gerrior.com> Asian mature fuucking Blonde barely legal teenie girl Tiffany posing nude out Cumlooving teens http://cilowaqu.com/main/ Busty bloonde babe Cumshot Brazillian taking faciall on lips -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Tue Sep 27 04:27:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:27:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 1 - Traffic Message-ID: <4338CA10.1090003@gmxpro.net> A few months ago I successfully installed Cygwin on my Windows 2000 PC and on my Windows XP laptop, and I have recently started using Cygwin/X to run a building simulation program called ESP-r (developed over many years at the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow - see "Software" at http://www.esru.strath.ac.uk). No doubt this is a very basic question, and I'm not sure whether it is really a question for this group or whether I should direct it to the authors and/or user group of the ESP-r software, but I wonder whether someone could shed some light on why Cygwin/X (or perhaps it is just the individual components of the ESP-r software I am running?) triggers ZoneAlarm access permission alerts and generates constant internet traffic (or perhaps only 'trusted zone' traffic?) as indicated by ZoneAlarm? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ihok@hotmail.com Tue Sep 27 05:21:00 2005 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 05:21:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 1 - Traffic In-Reply-To: <4338CA10.1090003@gmxpro.net> References: <4338CA10.1090003@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: Herbert Eppel wrote: > No doubt this is a very basic question, and I'm not sure whether it is > really a question for this group or whether I should direct it to the > authors and/or user group of the ESP-r software, but I wonder whether > someone could shed some light on why Cygwin/X (or perhaps it is just the > individual components of the ESP-r software I am running?) triggers > ZoneAlarm access permission alerts and generates constant internet > traffic (or perhaps only 'trusted zone' traffic?) as indicated by > ZoneAlarm? Chances are that you're seeing Cygwin/X connect to itself via TCP. This is normal. Furthermore, Zone Alarm is a source of problems for many Cygwin/X users. The two are known to conflict. See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Tue Sep 27 05:30:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 05:30:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 1 - Traffic In-Reply-To: References: <4338CA10.1090003@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: <4338D8F6.7050503@gmxpro.net> On 27.09.2005 06:18 UK Time, Jack Tanner wrote: > Herbert Eppel wrote: > >> No doubt this is a very basic question, and I'm not sure whether it is >> really a question for this group or whether I should direct it to the >> authors and/or user group of the ESP-r software, but I wonder whether >> someone could shed some light on why Cygwin/X (or perhaps it is just >> the individual components of the ESP-r software I am running?) >> triggers ZoneAlarm access permission alerts and generates constant >> internet traffic (or perhaps only 'trusted zone' traffic?) as >> indicated by ZoneAlarm? > > > Chances are that you're seeing Cygwin/X connect to itself via TCP. This > is normal. Hi Jack, thanks for your reply. I don't really understand why Cygwin/X needs to connect to itself, but it seems a likely explanation for the traffic I am seeing. > > Furthermore, Zone Alarm is a source of problems for many Cygwin/X users. > The two are known to conflict. See > http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html. I don't actually have a problem with ZoneAlarm, I was just curious about why the various components of the ESP-r software I am using (and indeed some external ones that came bundled with that software, for example xv.exe) triggered a one-off ZoneAlarm access permission alert when they were launched for the first time (they are now listed in ZoneAlarm's list of programs). Can you offer further enlightenment here, or would the ESP-r user list a more appropriate forum for this question? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Alexander.Schwez@gmx.de Tue Sep 27 09:08:00 2005 From: Alexander.Schwez@gmx.de (Alexander Schwez) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:08:00 -0000 Subject: second report References: <21435.1127213509@www22.gmx.net> Message-ID: <20558.1127812084@www14.gmx.net> Hallo, I send you second report with ERRORs in using WAVE function. Some more I have printing Stack trace in Window X~. Thank you, Alex Schwez,L??beck, Germany. Schwez@heimkino ~ $ PATH=/usr/openwin/bin:$PATH Schwez@heimkino ~ $ startx Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1152 height: 864 depth: 32 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000407" (00000407) (--) Using preset keyboard for "German (Germany)" (407), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "de" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap (--) 3 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing >>from li st! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 576 432 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winInitClipboard () winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the di splay. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the disp lay. winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) -- 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse f??r Mail, Message, More +++ -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From f.daly@chs.dundee.ac.uk Tue Sep 27 13:15:00 2005 From: f.daly@chs.dundee.ac.uk (Fergus Daly) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:15:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 1 - Traffic Message-ID: <830404B1D376BA46BC25BE71A3E12873E26C7F@corvus.tcgp.dundee.ac.uk> > generates constant internet traffic I don't know what your startup command is/are but mine are /usr/X11R6/bin/run /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -nolisten local -multiwindow # to start XWin in "quiet" mode /bin/xterm -display localhost:0.0 # to start xterm, but you might want something else and I seem to have a quiettime (cf. yours, noisy). Fergus -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Tue Sep 27 13:38:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:38:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 1 - Traffic In-Reply-To: <830404B1D376BA46BC25BE71A3E12873E26C7F@corvus.tcgp.dundee.ac.uk> References: <830404B1D376BA46BC25BE71A3E12873E26C7F@corvus.tcgp.dundee.ac.uk> Message-ID: <43394B30.4080908@gmxpro.net> On 27.09.2005 14:15 UK Time, Fergus Daly wrote: >>generates constant internet traffic > > > I don't know what your startup command is/are but mine are > > /usr/X11R6/bin/run /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -nolisten local > -multiwindow > # to start XWin in "quiet" mode > /bin/xterm -display localhost:0.0 > # to start xterm, but you might want something else > > and I seem to have a quiettime (cf. yours, noisy). Hi Fergus, thanks for your reply. It's been a few years since I used Unix when I worked at University and my Unix knowledge has never been brilliant and has become even rustier since then, so please forgive me if this is irrelevant, but I start my X environment with the following command: startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 Again, I'm not sure whether this is relevant, but my .xinitrc file (not set up by me, I hasten to add) contains the following lines: exec >$HOME/.x11startlog 2>$HOME/.x11startlog xsetroot -bitmap .esru.x xterm -name Console -fn 6x13 -C -g 85X8+0+0 & xterm -name Xterm1 -fn 6x13 -g 85X35+0-0 -sb -sl 400 & xterm -name Xterm2 -fn 6x13 -g 80X24+350-50 -sb -sl 400 & # xclock -g 75X75-60+0 & xstdcmap -delete all exec twm Does the quite mode you mentioned fit in here somewhere? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From f.daly@chs.dundee.ac.uk Tue Sep 27 14:08:00 2005 From: f.daly@chs.dundee.ac.uk (Fergus Daly) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:08:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 1 - Traffic Message-ID: <830404B1D376BA46BC25BE71A3E12873E26CBD@corvus.tcgp.dundee.ac.uk> > startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 # your startup Does this give you a xterm terminal and a xterm prompt, at which you start your Strathclyde stuff? > Does the quite mode you mentioned fit in here somewhere? I'm sorry, I don't use startx, with or without arguments. But I do notice that if at the bash prompt I try startx # no arguments then this generates a lot of gunk amongst which I find the line XWin was started ... and at the end of which I have one xterm window (not the 3 that your .xinitrc creates: do you need 3, or indeed any?) So my rather unhelpful response isn't (I'm afraid) "tweak your existing startup protocol to include the switch -nolisten local" because I don't know how to do this, I'm sorry. But you could try bash # to start bash $ run XWin -nolisten local # at the bash prompt $ ps # to check you've got a running XWin $ xterm -display localhost:0.0 # to get your xterm terminal with prompt, if needed $ {whatever, to start the Strathclyde stuff} and see whether you end up with what you are familiar with AND it's quiet? Sorry, probably not very helpful. (IKWWFMATWID, meaning "I know what works for me and that's what I do", pronounced I Don't Give A Toss About Anybody Else. Not in fact true, but it might as well be ...) Fergus -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Tue Sep 27 14:22:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:22:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 1 - Traffic In-Reply-To: <830404B1D376BA46BC25BE71A3E12873E26CBD@corvus.tcgp.dundee.ac.uk> References: <830404B1D376BA46BC25BE71A3E12873E26CBD@corvus.tcgp.dundee.ac.uk> Message-ID: <433955A9.8080603@gmxpro.net> On 27.09.2005 15:07 UK Time, Fergus Daly wrote: >> startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 # your startup > > > Does this give you a xterm terminal and a xterm prompt, at which you > start your Strathclyde stuff? Yes, it gives me an X environment (with a console and 2 X terminals) as specified in my .xinitrc file > > >>Does the quite mode you mentioned fit in here somewhere? > > > I'm sorry, I don't use startx, with or without arguments. But I do > notice that if at the bash prompt I try > > startx # no arguments As an aside, if I use startx without arguments the process kind of crashes (i.e. no X environment is set up). I'm not sure, but I suspect this is because I have a 2-monitor setup, and the system perhaps gets a little confused without arguments. > > then this generates a lot of gunk amongst which I find the line > > XWin was started ... Same here. > > and at the end of which I have one xterm window (not the 3 that your > .xinitrc creates: do you need 3, or indeed any?) Not really, but it's what I'm kind of used to :-) > > So my rather unhelpful response isn't (I'm afraid) "tweak your existing > startup protocol to include the switch -nolisten local" because I don't > know how to do this, I'm sorry. But you could try > > bash # to start bash > $ run XWin -nolisten local # at the bash prompt > $ ps # to check you've got a running XWin > $ xterm -display localhost:0.0 # to get your xterm terminal with > prompt, if needed > $ {whatever, to start the Strathclyde stuff} > > and see whether you end up with what you are familiar with AND it's > quiet? I might try that, thanks, although on the other hand it isn't really such a big issue because the 'ZoneAlarm noise level' is rather moderate really - I was just curious about what is going on. > > Sorry, probably not very helpful. (IKWWFMATWID, meaning "I know what > works for me and that's what I do", pronounced I Don't Give A Toss About > Anybody Else. Not in fact true, but it might as well be ...) I know it's not true, otherwise you wouldn't have responded in the first place :-) Cheers Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Sep 27 15:00:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:00:00 -0000 Subject: second report In-Reply-To: <20558.1127812084@www14.gmx.net> References: <21435.1127213509@www22.gmx.net> <20558.1127812084@www14.gmx.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Alexander Schwez wrote: > Hallo, I send you second report with ERRORs in using WAVE function. > Some more I have printing Stack trace in Window X~. > Thank you, Alex Schwez,L??beck, Germany. > > > Schwez@heimkino ~ > $ PATH=/usr/openwin/bin:$PATH > > Schwez@heimkino ~ > $ startx > > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.2.0-4 > > Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > XWin was started with the following command line: > > X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard > > winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 > (II) XF86Config is not supported > (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information > (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 > winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI > winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel > winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1152 height: 864 depth: 32 > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff > winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > null screen fn ReparentWindow > null screen fn RestackWindow > InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init > InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned > InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init > InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned > winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello > winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel > (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 > (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000407" (00000407) > (--) Using preset keyboard for "German (Germany)" (407), type "4" > Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "de" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" > (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap > (--) 3 mouse buttons found > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! > winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 576 432 > winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. > winProcEstablishConnection - Hello > winInitClipboard () > winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. > winClipboardProc - Hello > DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP > winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. > winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. > winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. > > winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. > winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) See . HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 05:16:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X Message-ID: <433A26FD.8040808@gmxpro.net> Is there a way of pasting text from the Windows clipboard to cygwin or X, if you see what I mean? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 09:03:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:03:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Message-ID: <433A5C40.7070300@gmxpro.net> Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the Windows system tray? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From bobber.cheng@cystar.cn Wed Sep 28 11:01:00 2005 From: bobber.cheng@cystar.cn (Bobber Cheng) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:01:00 -0000 Subject: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? In-Reply-To: References: <433275B4.20300@cystar.cn> Message-ID: <433A7808.5020807@cystar.cn> Hi, ago I use CYGWIN_NT-5.1 with gcc 3.4.4 to compile cygpeace-0.0.0. tut it failed with error: ./configure ..... ./make ... dll/ui.so/X11.cc: In member function `virtual HWND__* X11::GetForegroundWindow() ': dll/ui.so/X11.cc:295: error: invalid conversion from `uint32_t*' to `UINT*' dll/ui.so/X11.cc:295: error: initializing argument 2 of `virtual HWND__** X11: :GetChildWindowHandles(Window, UINT*)' Bests, Bobber Cheng Alexander Gottwald wrote: >On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Bobber Cheng wrote: > > > >>Had anyone found a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on >>Linux via ssh / X? If the answser is no, i beg X gurus to give me any >>advice how to implement it. Wine and VNC are not my choice. >> >> > >An alternative to Terminal client or cytrix is rdesktop. But besides that >there is no working solution to wrap windows programs with X11. You might >want to take a look at cygpeace which is not much more than a prove of >concept which allowed to export winmine over x11. > >http://www.freedesktop.org/~ago/cygpeace/ > >Before begging X gurus (which btw is the wrong group to ask) you should >check the win32-x11 archives http://sourceware.org/ml/win32-x11/ starting >with July - September, 2002 until July - September, 2004. Some techniques >for wrapping and redirecting windows GDI calls to X11 were discussed there >but most of the initial activity vaporized after few months. > >Basicly there are a few ways which might work: > >- build a display driver which uses X11 as backend > x11_drv from wine might provide the conversion to X11 calls >- wrap GDI calls from applications with own, X11 aware implementations > cygpeace aproach >- Check how Terminal Client works and implement a backend which uses X11 > instead of RDP > >bye > ago >BTW: Use rdesktop. > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Sep 28 12:25:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:25:00 -0000 Subject: a feathiable solution displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X? In-Reply-To: <433A7808.5020807@cystar.cn> References: <433275B4.20300@cystar.cn> <433A7808.5020807@cystar.cn> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Bobber Cheng wrote: > Hi, ago > > I use CYGWIN_NT-5.1 with gcc 3.4.4 to compile cygpeace-0.0.0. > > tut it failed with error: > > ./configure > ..... > > ./make > ... > dll/ui.so/X11.cc: In member function `virtual HWND__* > X11::GetForegroundWindow() > ': > dll/ui.so/X11.cc:295: error: invalid conversion from `uint32_t*' to `UINT*' > dll/ui.so/X11.cc:295: error: initializing argument 2 of `virtual > HWND__** X11: > :GetChildWindowHandles(Window, UINT*)' I think you could just add a explicit cast (UINT*) at the offending position. I've not compiled it for some time now. Mabye the definitions from w32api have changed. BTW: the -bin package should contain binaries which you could use for testing. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Wed Sep 28 12:40:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:40:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC62@exchangema.allegromicro.com> I am already doing that (-clipboard), among others: run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 1:16 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X Is there a way of pasting text from the Windows clipboard to cygwin or X, if you see what I mean? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Wed Sep 28 12:49:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:49:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC63@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Piggy-backing on this question, right clicking on icon is an item "Show Cursor". What does that do, anyway? I have tried releasing the mouse on that and I don't see any difference to any cursors on the wmaker screen. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 5:03 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the Windows system tray? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 12:53:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:53:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC62@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC62@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <433A922C.4070707@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 13:43 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > I am already doing that (-clipboard), among others: > > run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars > -clipboard -silent-dup-error Thanks, but would you mind elaborating a little? As I explained in a previous message, it's been a few years since I used Unix when I worked at University and my Unix knowledge has never been brilliant and has become even rustier since then... I start my X environment with the following command: startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 where would -clipoard fit in, and what does it actually do? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Nilesh.Thakar@ge.com Wed Sep 28 13:08:00 2005 From: Nilesh.Thakar@ge.com (Thakar, Nilesh V (GE Healthcare)) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:08:00 -0000 Subject: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVER Message-ID: > Hi > > * We are running a bash shell script in CYGWIN 1.5.12 environment on a Windows 2000 server system, > and while the shell script being run, the CPU usage goes constantly to 100%. > * This makes some of our realtime applications to abort (for example, a patient scan using a CT Scanner; > and the total software/hardware to a abort condition.) > > Can you suggest/recommend any work around to overcome this problem? > > An early response is well appreciated, since our software saves a lot of lives while performing the patient scans > at hospitals. > > Best Regards, > Nilesh Thakar. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 14:00:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 4 - Shutting down X Message-ID: <433AA178.80608@gmxpro.net> Is it OK to shut down the X environment by simply clicking on the "x" in the top right corner, or is there a 'more graceful'/better/preferred way of doing it? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Wed Sep 28 14:08:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:08:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 4 - Shutting down X Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC64@exchangema.allegromicro.com> You may also choose "Exit" by right clicking X icon on the win/xp icon tray. http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.html -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 9:58 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Basic question 4 - Shutting down X Is it OK to shut down the X environment by simply clicking on the "x" in the top right corner, or is there a 'more graceful'/better/preferred way of doing it? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 14:16:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:16:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 4 - Shutting down X In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC64@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC64@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <433AA58A.8070303@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 15:12 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > You may also choose "Exit" > by right clicking X icon on the win/xp icon tray. Thanks, this appears to have the same effect, although it brings me back to my "Basic question 3", i.e. I don't really want a system tray icon :-) > > http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.html The relevant page appears to be http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-stopping.html, which mentions Alt-F4, which again appears to have the same effect. Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Wed Sep 28 14:33:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:33:00 -0000 Subject: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVE R Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC65@exchangema.allegromicro.com> In such a case, my boss would ask me: 1. Would running the script on Linux produce the same CPU hog? 2. What on earth does the script do, anyway? 3. Is it calling another application that's really hogging the CPU? 4. Select the IO and VM columns of task manager and what are their activity levels? 5. Is the antivirus constantly acting up on every move of the script? 6. Why am I running it on win2k rather than Linux? If Linux is distrusted due to management policy on support, management should hold equivalent views on cygwin. Not that cygwin should be distrusted, but that Linux should not be distrusted since I trusted cygwin. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thakar, Nilesh V (GE Healthcare) Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 9:08 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: Thakar, Nilesh V (GE Healthcare) Subject: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVER > Hi > > * We are running a bash shell script in CYGWIN 1.5.12 environment on a Windows 2000 server system, > and while the shell script being run, the CPU usage goes constantly to 100%. > * This makes some of our realtime applications to abort (for example, a patient scan using a CT Scanner; > and the total software/hardware to a abort condition.) > > Can you suggest/recommend any work around to overcome this problem? > > An early response is well appreciated, since our software saves a lot of lives while performing the patient scans > at hospitals. > > Best Regards, > Nilesh Thakar. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Sep 28 14:52:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:52:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X In-Reply-To: <433A922C.4070707@gmxpro.net> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC62@exchangema.allegromicro.com> <433A922C.4070707@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: > On 28.09.2005 13:43 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > > I am already doing that (-clipboard), among others: > > > > run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars > > -clipboard -silent-dup-error > > Thanks, but would you mind elaborating a little? > > As I explained in a previous message, it's been a few years since I used > Unix when I worked at University and my Unix knowledge has never been > brilliant and has become even rustier since then... > > I start my X environment with the following command: > > startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 > > where would -clipoard fit in, and what does it actually do? "man startx" explains that the options after '--' are passed directly to the server. -clipboard is one such option. "man XWin" explains what that option actually does (i.e., synchronizes the X keyboard with the Windows one). HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Wed Sep 28 15:08:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:08:00 -0000 Subject: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVE R In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC65@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC65@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <20050928150842.GB15281@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:37:04AM -0400, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: >In such a case, my boss would ask me: >1. Would running the script on Linux produce the same CPU hog? >2. What on earth does the script do, anyway? >3. Is it calling another application that's really hogging the CPU? >4. Select the IO and VM columns of task manager and what are their activity >levels? >5. Is the antivirus constantly acting up on every move of the script? >6. Why am I running it on win2k rather than Linux? > If Linux is distrusted due to management policy on support, > management should hold equivalent views on cygwin. > Not that cygwin should be distrusted, > but that Linux should not be distrusted > since I trusted cygwin. This is the wrong mailing list for this discussion. Please use the main cygwin list for questions that are not specific to cygwin/x. cgf >-----Original Message----- >From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thakar, Nilesh V (GE >Healthcare) >Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 9:08 AM >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Cc: Thakar, Nilesh V (GE Healthcare) >Subject: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVER > > >> Hi >> >>* We are running a bash shell script in CYGWIN 1.5.12 environment on a >>Windows 2000 server system, and while the shell script being run, the >>CPU usage goes constantly to 100%. >>* This makes some of our realtime applications to abort (for example, a >>patient scan using a CT Scanner; and the total software/hardware to a >>abort condition.) >> >> Can you suggest/recommend any work around to overcome this problem? >> >>An early response is well appreciated, since our software saves a lot >>of lives while performing the patient scans at hospitals. >> >> Best Regards, >> Nilesh Thakar. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 15:33:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:33:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X In-Reply-To: References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC62@exchangema.allegromicro.com> <433A922C.4070707@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: <433AB7B2.2010709@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 15:52 UK Time, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >>I start my X environment with the following command: >> >>startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 >> >>where would -clipoard fit in, and what does it actually do? > > > "man startx" explains that the options after '--' are passed directly to > the server. -clipboard is one such option. > > "man XWin" explains what that option actually does (i.e., synchronizes the > X keyboard with the Windows one). > HTH, > Igor Thanks. However, I seems something is wrong somewhere. With my usual command (i.e. "startx -- -screen 0 1200 900") X runs OK, although I just noticed that I get some feedback relating to clipboard in the main cygwin window (see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/herb.eppel_new/temp/Cygwin1.jpg) When I first tried "startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 -clipboard" some clipboard error messages appeared - see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/herb.eppel_new/temp/Cygwin2.jpg I just tried the same command again. This time there are no clipboard error messages (see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/herb.eppel_new/temp/Cygwin3.jpg), but the clipboard still doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 28 15:48:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:48:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Message-ID: Herbert Eppel wrote: > Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the > Windows system tray? > > Thank you. > > Herbert Eppel > -- > www.HETranslation.co.uk highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 28 15:51:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:51:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X Message-ID: Herbert Eppel wrote: > On 28.09.2005 13:43 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: >> I am already doing that (-clipboard), among others: >> >> run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons >> -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error > > Thanks, but would you mind elaborating a little? > > As I explained in a previous message, it's been a few years > since I used > Unix when I worked at University and my Unix knowledge has never been > brilliant and has become even rustier since then... > > I start my X environment with the following command: > > startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 > > where would -clipoard fit in, and what does it actually do? > > Thank you. > > Herbert Eppel > -- > www.HETranslation.co.uk use startxwin.bat from cmd.exe or starxwin.sh if in a bash prompt to start X-windows -- you can look at both of the files to see what they do -- they are startup scripts for X. reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 28 15:53:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:53:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X Message-ID: Reid Thompson wrote: > Herbert Eppel wrote: >> On 28.09.2005 13:43 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: >>> I am already doing that (-clipboard), among others: >>> >>> run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons >>> -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error >> >> Thanks, but would you mind elaborating a little? >> >> As I explained in a previous message, it's been a few years since I >> used Unix when I worked at University and my Unix knowledge has never >> been brilliant and has become even rustier since then... >> >> I start my X environment with the following command: >> >> startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 >> >> where would -clipoard fit in, and what does it actually do? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Herbert Eppel >> -- >> www.HETranslation.co.uk > > use startxwin.bat from cmd.exe or starxwin.sh if in a bash > prompt to start X-windows -- you can look at both of the files to see > what they do -- they are startup scripts for X. > > reid these files are in /usr//X11R6/bin reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 16:08:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:08:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433ABFDC.5000309@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 16:48 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: > Herbert Eppel wrote: > >>Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the >>Windows system tray? >> >>Thank you. > > > highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel Highlight what? Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my "Basic question 2"??? Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Wed Sep 28 16:16:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:16:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC68@exchangema.allegromicro.com> No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click rather than my right clicking and selecting "Exit". Which is answering your question 4. Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended, you should consider running either startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would no longer be effective because either of these startup files would not call .xinitrc . I prefer the bat file because I would need to first start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around annoying you more than the X icon would. The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar with it. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 12:08 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Basic question 3 - system tray icon On 28.09.2005 16:48 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: > Herbert Eppel wrote: > >>Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the >>Windows system tray? >> >>Thank you. > > > highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel Highlight what? Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my "Basic question 2"??? Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 16:43:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC68@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC68@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <433AC800.6030706@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 17:20 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click > rather than my right clicking and selecting "Exit". > Which is answering your question 4. Thanks, although I'm afraid I still fail to see Reid's single-click solution - but never mind, I think I am satisfied now that my own single-click solution (i.e. x in top right corner) is 'safe'. > > Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended, > you should consider running either > startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. > But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would > no longer be effective because either of these startup > files would not call .xinitrc . > > I prefer the bat file because I would need to first > start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to > run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around > annoying you more than the X icon would. > > The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar > with it. Thanks, I'll try and get my head round that some time, but shouldn't it work with -clipboard in the startx command line? Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 28 16:46:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:46:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Message-ID: Herbert Eppel wrote: > On 28.09.2005 16:48 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: >> Herbert Eppel wrote: >> >>> Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the >>> Windows system tray? >>> >>> Thank you. > > >> >> >> highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel > > Highlight what? > > Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my "Basic > question 2"??? > > Regards > > Herbert Eppel > -- > www.HETranslation.co.uk sorry -- meant to post that to the copy and paste question reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 16:59:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:59:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433ACBF0.6080902@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 17:45 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: >>>highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel >> >>Highlight what? >> >>Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my "Basic >>question 2"??? > > sorry -- meant to post that to the copy and paste question The plot thickens - "Soong, SylokeJ" thought you were referring to my question 4!? Anyway, I'm still not sure what exactly you meant by "highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel" - would you care to elaborate? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 28 17:00:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:00:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Message-ID: Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click > rather than my right clicking and selecting "Exit". Which is > answering your question 4. > > Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended, > you should consider running either > startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. > But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would > no longer be effective because either of these startup > files would not call .xinitrc . > > I prefer the bat file because I would need to first > start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to > run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around > annoying you more than the X icon would. this is not an issue -- run setup and download rxvt configure a shortcut with rxvt exec'ing a bash shell ( passing whatever params to rxvt and bash that you wish) Target: C:\cygwin\bin\rxvt.exe -fn "lucida console-13-bold" -e c:\cygwin\bin\bash use the shortcut to open a bash shell prompt and enter $ nohup startxwin.sh & you should then be able to exit the rxvt shell window w/o X dying. > > The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar > with it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-> owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel > Sent: Wed, > September 28, 2005 12:08 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Basic question 3 - system tray icon > > > On 28.09.2005 16:48 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: >> Herbert Eppel wrote: >> >>> Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the >>> Windows system tray? >>> >>> Thank you. > > >> >> >> highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel > > Highlight what? > > Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my "Basic > question 2"??? > > Regards > > Herbert Eppel > -- > www.HETranslation.co.uk > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Wed Sep 28 17:00:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:00:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC69@exchangema.allegromicro.com> With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy & paste between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent. Microsoft(which you know): copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy. paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste. Motif & cygwin: Selecting text would spontaneously (some people might prefer the term, automatically) copy into clipboard. Paste is by middle button click. e.g. copying from MS to Cyg: copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release middle button. Conversely from cyg to MS: select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v. Voila! However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped that button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons option which would require you to press both mouse buttons together to emulate the middle button. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 12:43 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Basic question 3 - system tray icon On 28.09.2005 17:20 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click > rather than my right clicking and selecting "Exit". > Which is answering your question 4. Thanks, although I'm afraid I still fail to see Reid's single-click solution - but never mind, I think I am satisfied now that my own single-click solution (i.e. x in top right corner) is 'safe'. > > Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended, > you should consider running either > startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. > But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would > no longer be effective because either of these startup > files would not call .xinitrc . > > I prefer the bat file because I would need to first > start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to > run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around > annoying you more than the X icon would. > > The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar > with it. Thanks, I'll try and get my head round that some time, but shouldn't it work with -clipboard in the startx command line? Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 28 17:06:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:06:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Message-ID: Herbert Eppel wrote: > On 28.09.2005 17:45 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: > >>>> highlight with left mouse button, paste with >>>> middlebutton/scrollwheel >>> >>> Highlight what? >>> >>> Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my >>> "Basic question 2"??? > >> >> sorry -- meant to post that to the copy and paste question > > The plot thickens - "Soong, SylokeJ" thought you were referring to my > question 4!? > > Anyway, I'm still not sure what exactly you meant by "highlight with > left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel" - > would you care > to elaborate? > > Thanks > > Herbert Eppel > -- > www.HETranslation.co.uk my mouse has two buttons + a scrool wheel that can be clicked. clicking the scroll wheel acts the same as clicking the middle mouse button of a three button mouse. so, i can highlight any text with the left mouse button ( or other means ), and then click with the the scroll button to paste into any other application. if you don't have a three button mouse, and don't have a scroll wheel that clicks, you can try clicking right and left mouse buttons very quickly one after the other -- on many systems this is configured to emulate the button 3 click. I highly recommend downloading rxvt and configuring it as your terminal -- it is orders of magnitude better than cmd.exe in my opinion. reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Sep 28 17:12:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:12:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X In-Reply-To: <433AB7B2.2010709@gmxpro.net> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC62@exchangema.allegromicro.com> <433A922C.4070707@gmxpro.net> <433AB7B2.2010709@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: > On 28.09.2005 15:52 UK Time, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > > I start my X environment with the following command: > > > > > > startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 > > > > > > where would -clipoard fit in, and what does it actually do? > > > > "man startx" explains that the options after '--' are passed directly to > > the server. -clipboard is one such option. > > > > "man XWin" explains what that option actually does (i.e., synchronizes the > > X keyboard with the Windows one). > > HTH, > > Thanks. However, I seems something is wrong somewhere. > > With my usual command (i.e. "startx -- -screen 0 1200 900") X runs OK, > although I just noticed that I get some feedback relating to clipboard > in the main cygwin window (see > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/herb.eppel_new/temp/Cygwin1.jpg) Right -- this says that clipboard support isn't enabled. > When I first tried "startx -- -screen 0 1200 900 -clipboard" some > clipboard error messages appeared - see > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/herb.eppel_new/temp/Cygwin2.jpg Those are just warnings -- the clipboard thread is started. > I just tried the same command again. This time there are no clipboard > error messages (see > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/herb.eppel_new/temp/Cygwin3.jpg), but the > clipboard still doesn't work. > > What am I doing wrong? Please provide the exact steps you use to test the clipboard operation, and any messages or results that make you believe it doesn't work. Hint: X has multiple selection buffers; the clipboard support synchronizes what's called "primary selection"; some applications (e.g., Mozilla) use a different buffer for their selection storage. It would also help if you posted /tmp/XWin.log (instead of those screenshots). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 17:44:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:44:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X In-Reply-To: References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC62@exchangema.allegromicro.com> <433A922C.4070707@gmxpro.net> <433AB7B2.2010709@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: <433AD652.1050706@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 18:11 UK Time, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > Please provide the exact steps you use to test the clipboard operation, > and any messages or results that make you believe it doesn't work. > > Hint: X has multiple selection buffers; the clipboard support synchronizes > what's called "primary selection"; some applications (e.g., Mozilla) use a > different buffer for their selection storage. It would also help if you > posted /tmp/XWin.log (instead of those screenshots). > Igor Hi Igor, thanks for taking the time to look at my screenshots. The clipboard may well be working OK - it's just hat I was under the mistaken impression that I could simply copy and paste using the usual Windows shortcuts :-[ Now that "Soong, SylokeJ" has explained the situation I think I might be getting somewhere :-) Thanks for the tip about /tmp/XWin.log - no doubt it will come in handy. Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 17:52:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:52:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC69@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC69@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <433AD825.70008@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 18:04 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy & paste Nice subject line - I'm not really sure why I started this "Basic Question no." nonsense - it was bound to lead to confusion, sorry! > between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent. > > Microsoft(which you know): > copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy. > paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste. > > Motif & cygwin: > Selecting text would spontaneously > (some people might prefer the term, automatically) > copy into clipboard. > Paste is by middle button click. Thanks for explain this. It's embarrassing, but I wasn't aware of the different behaviour :-[ > > e.g. copying from MS to Cyg: > copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release middle > button. > Conversely from cyg to MS: > select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v. > Voila! > > However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped that > button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons option > which would require you to press both mouse buttons together to emulate > the middle button. I do have the scroll wheel button assigned to double click, and I would like to keep that setting, which raises the question of where exactly I would have to specify -emulate3buttons (is it simply another command line option after startx?) and what you mean by "both mouse buttons" - do you mean left and right? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Sep 28 18:15:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:15:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever Message-ID: Herbert Eppel wrote: > On 28.09.2005 18:04 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: >> With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy & >> paste > > Nice subject line - I'm not really sure why I started this "Basic > Question no." nonsense - it was bound to lead to confusion, sorry! > >> between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent. >> >> Microsoft(which you know): >> copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy. >> paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste. >> >> Motif & cygwin: >> Selecting text would spontaneously >> (some people might prefer the term, automatically) >> copy into clipboard. >> Paste is by middle button click. > > Thanks for explain this. It's embarrassing, but I wasn't aware of the > different behaviour :-[ > >> >> e.g. copying from MS to Cyg: >> copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release >> middle button. Conversely from cyg to MS: >> select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v. >> Voila! >> >> However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped >> that button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons >> option which would require you to press both mouse buttons together >> to emulate the middle button. > > I do have the scroll wheel button assigned to double click, > and I would > like to keep that setting, which raises the question of where exactly > I would have to specify -emulate3buttons (is it simply another command > line option after startx?) and what you mean by "both mouse > buttons" - > do you mean left and right? > > Thanks > > Herbert Eppel > -- > www.HETranslation.co.uk you pass it as a parameter to your X startup ( ala -clipboard -multiwindow ) -emulate3buttons [timeout] Emulate 3 button mouse with an optional timeout in milliseconds. $ Xwin --help use: X [:] [option] -a # mouse acceleration (pixels) -ac disable access control restrictions -audit int set audit trail level -auth file select authorization file bc enable bug compatibility -br create root window with black background +bs enable any backing store support -bs disable any backing store support -c turns off key-click c # key-click volume (0-100) -cc int default color visual class -co file color database file -core generate core dump on fatal error -dpi int screen resolution in dots per inch -deferglyphs [none|all|16] defer loading of [no|all|16-bit] glyphs -f # bell base (0-100) -fc string cursor font -fn string default font name -fp string default font path -help prints message with these options -I ignore all remaining arguments -ld int limit data space to N Kb -lf int limit number of open files to N -ls int limit stack space to N Kb -logo enable logo in screen saver nologo disable logo in screen saver -nolisten string don't listen on protocol -noreset don't reset after last client exists -reset reset after last client exists -p # screen-saver pattern duration (minutes) -pn accept failure to listen on all ports -nopn reject failure to listen on all ports -r turns off auto-repeat r turns on auto-repeat -render [default|mono|gray|color] set render color alloc policy -s # screen-saver timeout (minutes) -sp file security policy file -su disable any save under support -t # mouse threshold (pixels) -terminate terminate at server reset -to # connection time out -tst disable testing extensions ttyxx server started from init on /dev/ttyxx v video blanking for screen-saver -v screen-saver without video blanking -wm WhenMapped default backing-store -x string loads named extension at init time -maxbigreqsize set maximal bigrequest size +extension name Enable extension -extension name Disable extension -query host-name contact named host for XDMCP -broadcast broadcast for XDMCP -indirect host-name contact named host for indirect XDMCP -port port-num UDP port number to send messages to -from local-address specify the local address to connect from -once Terminate server after one session -class display-class specify display class to send in manage -cookie xdm-auth-bits specify the magic cookie for XDMCP -displayID display-id manufacturer display ID for request The X Keyboard Extension adds the following arguments: -kb disable the X Keyboard Extension +kb enable the X Keyboard Extension [+-]accessx [ timeout [ timeout_mask [ feedback [ options_mask] ] ] ] enable/disable accessx key sequences -ar1 set XKB autorepeat delay -ar2 set XKB autorepeat interval -noloadxkb don't load XKB keymap description -xkbdb file that contains default XKB keymaps -xkbmap XKB keyboard description to load on startup -depth bits_per_pixel Specify an optional bitdepth to use in fullscreen mode with a DirectDraw engine. -emulate3buttons [timeout] Emulate 3 button mouse with an optional timeout in milliseconds. -engine engine_type_id Override the server's automatically selected engine type: 1 - Shadow GDI 2 - Shadow DirectDraw 4 - Shadow DirectDraw4 Non-Locking -fullscreen Run the server in fullscreen mode. -refresh rate_in_Hz Specify an optional refresh rate to use in fullscreen mode with a DirectDraw engine. -screen scr_num [width height [x y] | [[WxH[+X+Y]][@m]] ] Enable screen scr_num and optionally specify a width and height and initial position for that screen. Additionally a monitor number can be specified to start the server on, at which point, all coordinates become relative to that monitor (Not for Windows NT4 and 95). Examples: -screen 0 800x600+100+100@2 ; 2nd monitor offset 100,100 size 800x600 -screen 0 1024x768@3 ; 3rd monitor size 1024x768 -screen 0 @1 ; on 1st monitor using its full resolution (the default) -lesspointer Hide the windows mouse pointer when it is over an inactive Cygwin/X window. This prevents ghost cursors appearing where the Windows cursor is drawn overtop of the X cursor -nodecoration Do not draw a window border, title bar, etc. Windowed mode only. -mwextwm Run the server in multi-window external window manager mode. -rootless Run the server in rootless mode. -multiwindow Run the server in multi-window mode. -multiplemonitors EXPERIMENTAL: Use the entire virtual screen if multiple monitors are present. -clipboard Run the clipboard integration module. Do not use at the same time as 'xwinclip'. -nounicodeclipboard Do not use Unicode clipboard even if NT-based platform. -scrollbars In windowed mode, allow screens bigger than the Windows desktop. Moreover, if the window has decorations, one can now resize it. -[no]trayicon Do not create a tray icon. Default is to create one icon per screen. You can globally disable tray icons with -notrayicon, then enable it for specific screens with -trayicon for those screens. -clipupdates num_boxes Use a clipping region to constrain shadow update blits to the updated region when num_boxes, or more, are in the updated region. Currently supported only by `-engine 1'. -[no]unixkill Ctrl+Alt+Backspace exits the X Server. -[no]winkill Alt+F4 exits the X Server. -xkbrules XKBRules Equivalent to XKBRules in XF86Config files. -xkbmodel XKBModel Equivalent to XKBModel in XF86Config files. -xkblayout XKBLayout Equivalent to XKBLayout in XF86Config files. For example: -xkblayout de -xkbvariant XKBVariant Equivalent to XKBVariant in XF86Config files. For example: -xkbvariant nodeadkeys -xkboptions XKBOptions Equivalent to XKBOptions in XF86Config files. -logfile filename Write logmessages to instead of /tmp/Xwin.log. -logverbose verbosity Set the verbosity of logmessages. [NOTE: Only a few messages respect the settings yet] 0 - only print fatal error. 1 - print additional configuration information. 2 - print additional runtime information [default]. 3 - print debugging and tracing information. -[no]keyhook Grab special windows key combinations like Alt-Tab or the Menu key. These keys are discarded by default. -swcursor Disable the usage of the windows cursor and use the X11 software cursor instead WS-XP-4960: /home/rthompso> reid -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Wed Sep 28 18:32:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:32:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 19:14 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: >> >>I do have the scroll wheel button assigned to double click, >>and I would >>like to keep that setting, which raises the question of where exactly >>I would have to specify -emulate3buttons (is it simply another command >>line option after startx?) and what you mean by "both mouse >>buttons" - >>do you mean left and right? >> >>Thanks > you pass it as a parameter to your X startup ( ala -clipboard > -multiwindow ) > > -emulate3buttons [timeout] > Emulate 3 button mouse with an optional timeout in > milliseconds. Success 8-) Thanks a lot for all contributions! Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Sep 28 19:10:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:10:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: > Success 8-) > Thanks a lot for all contributions! > > Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get > used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. > > Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the > scroll wheel button)? Depending on the application, you may be able to set up keyboard shortcuts to do this. For a bash example, see (or try searching the archives of the main Cygwin mailing list for "copy paste" -- I'm sure there were recipes for various key combinations). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From com.cygwin.cygwin@pooryorick.com Wed Sep 28 19:58:00 2005 From: com.cygwin.cygwin@pooryorick.com (Poor Yorick) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:58:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: <433AF5D3.1070408@pooryorick.com> Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: > >Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the >scroll wheel button)? > > > > > Have you tried shift-insert instead of middle button? My default installation of Cygwin and X supports this key combination. -- Poor Yorick -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From brian@dessent.net Wed Sep 28 21:53:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:53:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: <433B1172.5DE01D46@dessent.net> Herbert Eppel wrote: > Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to > get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. > > Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the > scroll wheel button)? Some mouse drivers (for example, Microsoft Intellipoint) lets you define actions for the mouse buttons on a per-application basis. You could set it up so that clicking the mousewheel in XWin.exe does the default middle click, and clicking elsewhere results in the double-click. I do this myself, and find it very productive to have different mappings for different applications. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Thu Sep 29 03:44:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 03:44:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: <433B6301.2060402@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 20:10 UK Time, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: > > >>Success 8-) >>Thanks a lot for all contributions! >> >>Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get >>used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. >> >>Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the >>scroll wheel button)? > > > Depending on the application, you may be able to set up keyboard shortcuts > to do this. For a bash example, see > (or try > searching the archives of the main Cygwin mailing list for "copy paste" -- > I'm sure there were recipes for various key combinations). > Igor Thanks, I might try that - or I might try and get used to the left/right combination first :-) Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Thu Sep 29 03:45:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 03:45:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: <433AF5D3.1070408@pooryorick.com> References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> <433AF5D3.1070408@pooryorick.com> Message-ID: <433B6360.7060605@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 20:58 UK Time, Poor Yorick wrote: > Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: >> >> Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the >> scroll wheel button)? >> >> >> >> >> > Have you tried shift-insert instead of middle button? My default > installation of Cygwin and X supports this key combination. Thanks for that, but in the past I found the Insert button so annoying (I kept pressing it inadvertently) that I deactivated it! :-) Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Thu Sep 29 03:49:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 03:49:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: <433B1172.5DE01D46@dessent.net> References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> <433B1172.5DE01D46@dessent.net> Message-ID: <433B6429.2030300@gmxpro.net> On 28.09.2005 22:56 UK Time, Brian Dessent wrote: > Herbert Eppel wrote: > > >>Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to >>get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. >> >>Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the >>scroll wheel button)? > > > Some mouse drivers (for example, Microsoft Intellipoint) lets you define > actions for the mouse buttons on a per-application basis. You could set > it up so that clicking the mousewheel in XWin.exe does the default > middle click, and clicking elsewhere results in the double-click. I do > this myself, and find it very productive to have different mappings for > different applications. Thanks for this. I have a (relatively old) optical Logitech mouse, and I can't see such an option in the mouse properties. Perhaps I simply have to get used to the left/right combination :-) Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Thu Sep 29 04:05:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:05:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - ways to skin a ... mouse Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC6A@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Choices you have: 1. Hope you have a logitech mouse. Mine is a Dell Scroll with no "Logitech" logo, but it seems to work with Logitech driver. I have another, a Kensington which refuses to work with the util. Download their driver and mouse ctrl-panel util which allows you to exclude/include apps. I couldn't find it some time ago. Don't know if they still have it. 2. Place your finger on the slit between the two buttons just above the tail (cable) of the mouse, just after the wheel. You need only one finger to press both buttons. X. I have a tablet PC. ... what have I got to do to make (Elton John's refrain in background) a middle mouse click when using the pen, if I do install cygwin on it. Would xp/tablet even detect cygwin input areas as text input areas - so that it would pop up a handwriting input+conversion pad. Got to try it. Middle button seems to be the hardest click ... it's sad, so sad ... Gotta go. G'nite. -----Original Message----- Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Thu Sep 29 04:13:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:13:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - ways to skin a ... mouse In-Reply-To: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC6A@exchangema.allegromicro.com> References: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC6A@exchangema.allegromicro.com> Message-ID: <433B698E.4070007@gmxpro.net> On 29.09.2005 05:09 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: > Choices you have: > 1. Hope you have a logitech mouse. > Mine is a Dell Scroll with no "Logitech" logo, > but it seems to work with Logitech driver. > I have another, a Kensington which refuses > to work with the util. > > Download their driver and mouse ctrl-panel util > which allows you to exclude/include apps. > I couldn't find it some time ago. Don't know > if they still have it. Thanks for this. Yes, I have a Logitech mouse, and I might look for that utility. > > 2. Place your finger on the slit between the > two buttons just above the tail (cable) of the mouse, > just after the wheel. > You need only one finger to press both buttons. Thanks for the tip, but my fingers are quite short and I think I'll probably find it easier to get used to the left/right combo than reaching over the wheel :-) > > > X. I have a tablet PC. > ... what have I got to do to make (Elton John's > refrain in background) a middle mouse click > when using the pen, if I do install cygwin on it. > Would xp/tablet even detect cygwin input areas as > text input areas - so that it would pop up a handwriting > input+conversion pad. Got to try it. Middle button > seems to be the hardest click ... it's sad, so sad ... > > Gotta go. G'nite. Where are you? I just got up! Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From brian@dessent.net Thu Sep 29 05:26:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 05:26:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> <433B1172.5DE01D46@dessent.net> <433B6429.2030300@gmxpro.net> Message-ID: <433B7AE7.3FED831C@dessent.net> Herbert Eppel wrote: > Thanks for this. I have a (relatively old) optical Logitech mouse, and I > can't see such an option in the mouse properties. Perhaps I simply have > to get used to the left/right combination :-) You might try installing the MS Intellipoint drivers anyway. I have read in the past that it sometimes works with non-MS mice as well. You might have to use an older verion -- I am stuck on 4.1 but the latest is 5.3. Frustratingly, some versions do not have the "enable program-specific settings" checkbox. I seem to recall 4.12 does not, but 4.1 does, which is why I use it. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Herb@gmxpro.net Thu Sep 29 05:31:00 2005 From: Herb@gmxpro.net (Herbert Eppel) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 05:31:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - whatever In-Reply-To: <433B7AE7.3FED831C@dessent.net> References: <433AE1A2.8010101@gmxpro.net> <433B1172.5DE01D46@dessent.net> <433B6429.2030300@gmxpro.net> <433B7AE7.3FED831C@dessent.net> Message-ID: <433B7C29.4050205@gmxpro.net> On 29.09.2005 06:25 UK Time, Brian Dessent wrote: > Herbert Eppel wrote: > > >>Thanks for this. I have a (relatively old) optical Logitech mouse, and I >>can't see such an option in the mouse properties. Perhaps I simply have >>to get used to the left/right combination :-) > > > You might try installing the MS Intellipoint drivers anyway. I have > read in the past that it sometimes works with non-MS mice as well. You > might have to use an older verion -- I am stuck on 4.1 but the latest is > 5.3. Frustratingly, some versions do not have the "enable > program-specific settings" checkbox. I seem to recall 4.12 does not, > but 4.1 does, which is why I use it. > > Brian Thanks, I might try that. > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ By the way, is there a good reason why the space in the footer delimiter for this list is missing, i.e. it should be "-- " instead of "--" ? Without the space Thunderbird, for example, doesn't automatically cut off the footer in replies as one would expect. Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pkrastev@globul.bg Thu Sep 29 08:55:00 2005 From: pkrastev@globul.bg (Pavel Krustev) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:55:00 -0000 Subject: 3-Button wheel mouse application problem with Cygwin-Xorg Message-ID: <200509291155.23208.pkrastev@globul.bg> Hi all, I have difficulties running a specific X application which runs in the Xorg X server. The problem is that in some specific areas of this app the right mouse button click refuses to open the related menu over an object and thus renders the app unusable with cygwin-xorg. The problem is only in this app - all other right clicks elsewhere work fine, I think the app is poorly written but unfortunately it is the most important gui application for my work and I cannot stop to use it. The same problem also exists in every Xorg linux installation when using 3-button mouse with scroll enabled. The only workaround so far is to force the Linux Xorg to think I use 2-button mouse thus losing all the fancy scrolling and the third button. My guess is that there is some minor difference between Xorg and Xfree86 Xservers, because the app works fine on Xfree86 linux boxes OR on Xorg boxes with 2-button mice. Changing the Linux xorg.conf to this works around the problem: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" Option "Protocol" "ps/2" <--- config working OK with the app # Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" <--- this is the old config # Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Please, can you help me with advice or other useful information, how can I force the cygwin Xorg server to think I have 2-button mouse? I looked at all the options listed in the User manual, especially was interested in -emulate3buttons (the guess was that Xorg will assume I have 2-button mouse if I requested this emulation option) but nothing helped. The other option is if I could install an older cygwin X release using the Xfree server, it haven't shown problems with the app in linux boxes before and other X servers (namely Exceed) run well with the problematic app on the same Windows configuration. --------------------------------- If I summarise my question: - is there a way to force Xorg in 2-button mouse "mode" config ? - if not, can I get an older x-cygwin distribution which uses Xfree instead of Xorg from some site. I didn't manage to find any using google or cygwin site. Thank you in advance for reading this mail and for helping me! Pavel Krustev Bulgaria, Europe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From robert.folland@gmail.com Thu Sep 29 10:04:00 2005 From: robert.folland@gmail.com (Robert Folland) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:04:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs (and xterm) crashing Message-ID: <39d0543305092903041027aa91@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have the same problem that was reported by Zdzislaw Meglicki in June and July: emacs sometimes just crashes. I get the message: "X protocol error: BadIDChoice (invalid resource ID chosen for this connection) on protocol request 1" Mostly this happens when I try to start dired on a directory. This happens both on my machine at work (Windows XP) and my machine at home (Windows 2000). I installed cygwin on my home machine yesterday for the first time in this installation of Windows, and I'm getting the same crashes as I get at work. Actually this also happens when I click on an xterm window to get focus sometimes. Any clues? Do others also experience this? -Robert -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Rusty.Murphy.U@att.net Thu Sep 29 19:33:00 2005 From: Rusty.Murphy.U@att.net (University Registration) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:33:00 -0000 Subject: Want More? Message-ID: What our University would like to offer you: BA BSc MA MSc MBA With this degree you will be able to: 1. Gain better employment 2. Increase in pay 3. Get the respect you deserve Requirements for our Bachelors and Masters degrees: -2 week timeline -No Study Required -100% Verifiable For questions and enrollment information call: 1-831-306-6845 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Cary_Jamison@Symantec.com Thu Sep 29 19:33:00 2005 From: Cary_Jamison@Symantec.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:33:00 -0000 Subject: 3-Button wheel mouse application problem with Cygwin-Xorg References: <200509291155.23208.pkrastev@globul.bg> Message-ID: Pavel Krustev wrote: > Hi all, > > I have difficulties running a specific X application which runs in > the Xorg X server. > > The problem is that in some specific areas of this app the right > mouse button click refuses to open the related menu over an object > and thus renders the app unusable with cygwin-xorg. The problem is > only in this app - all other right clicks elsewhere work fine, I > think the app is poorly written but unfortunately it is the most > important gui application for my work and I cannot stop to use it. Is your numlock on? That is often the source of these types of problems (it is treated as a modifier key, like shift/control/alt/meta/etc.). Cary -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yanowitzmjy@yahoo.com Thu Sep 29 19:53:00 2005 From: yanowitzmjy@yahoo.com (Michael Yanowitz) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:53:00 -0000 Subject: Want More? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433C461D.1000801@yahoo.com> Doesn't anyone moderate this list. This is a Cygwin list. It is not a spammers list. Most people on list list are not interested in your crap advertising. We already have legitimate degrees. We don't need or want to see your junk. Go advertise somewhere else. PLEASE University Registration wrote: >What our University would like to offer you: > >BA BSc MA MSc MBA > >With this degree you will be able to: > >1. Gain better employment >2. Increase in pay >3. Get the respect you deserve > >Requirements for our Bachelors and Masters degrees: > >-2 week timeline >-No Study Required >-100% Verifiable > >For questions and enrollment information call: >1-831-306-6845 > > > > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > > > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Thu Sep 29 20:00:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:00:00 -0000 Subject: Want More? In-Reply-To: <433C461D.1000801@yahoo.com> References: <433C461D.1000801@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050929195943.GB2793@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 03:53:01PM -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote: >Doesn't anyone moderate this list. >This is a Cygwin list. It is not a spammers list. >Most people on list list are not interested in your crap advertising. >We already have legitimate degrees. We don't need or want to >see your junk. Go advertise somewhere else. PLEASE This list is not moderated but it is tracked and subjected to spam blocking. No spam blocking is 100% effective but when something comes through it is dealt with fairly quickly. There is absolutely no reason to DUPLICATE the spammers message and vent your public dissatisfaction here. Please restrain yourself in the future. -- Christopher Faylor spammer? -> aaaspam@sourceware.org Cygwin Co-Project Leader aaaspam@duffek.com TimeSys, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com Thu Sep 29 22:22:00 2005 From: SSoong@ALLEGROMICRO.com (Soong, SylokeJ) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:22:00 -0000 Subject: Basic question X - ways to skin a ... mouse Message-ID: <3782EF0C54A17E4A902861E3C643F401056BBC6C@exchangema.allegromicro.com> I think I've got it wrong and Brian Dessent is right. The util is the intellimouse driver. Which is why I could not find it at Logitech. On the other hand, I advise you to keep your double-click assignment for cygwin as well, and get accustomed to dual-click emulating double-click. The reason being, when I sat on a sun-sparc or aix using their mouse, the native double-click action is effortless. However, connecting to those stations using cygwin/x or reflection/x or eXceed, I need to click extremely fast to effect a double-click. Of course, I could configure xp to widen the interval of double-click recognition. Doing that, you would realise that a second in cygwin/x (reflection & eXceed as well) is but a thousand years on XP desktop. Most unix visual applications require double- clicking, and even Motif's own dtfile. X-Free people ought to look into the difference between XP mouse interval and remote unix interval. Is this an X-Free issue or a cygwin/x issue? I tend to think it's a cygwin issue. X-Free is normally used on Linux without having a user shift between MSWin and XWin. -------------------------------------------- Is there a worster place in this country than Worcester, Mass. (besides Gary, Indiana)? Is there a more beautiful place than Bar Habor, Maine? One is heaven, the other h#ll. But having to vacillate between the two on a weekly basis is purgatory. Is there better loyalty to a football club than to ManchU, besides L'pool? One was pure elegance, the other pure brute. But having had to vacillate between the two had been pure torture. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Thu, September 29, 2005 12:12 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Basic question X - ways to skin a ... mouse > Gotta go. G'nite. Where are you? I just got up! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From shah_m_sharif@yahoo.com Fri Sep 30 00:18:00 2005 From: shah_m_sharif@yahoo.com (Shah Sharif) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:18:00 -0000 Subject: Running X Server Message-ID: <20050930001111.49345.qmail@web50911.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I was trying to run X server after my I have intalled the cygwin. I have chosen to install 'all' the packages. In order to run the X server I have typed in the following command: /usr/X11R6/bin/startx After typing that command,I am getting the following error msg. **************************************8 XWin was started with the following Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progres *************************************** Thanks much, Shah Sharif __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From kdibble@alltel.net Fri Sep 30 00:59:00 2005 From: kdibble@alltel.net (Ken Dibble) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:59:00 -0000 Subject: Running X Server In-Reply-To: <20050930001111.49345.qmail@web50911.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050930001111.49345.qmail@web50911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050930005901.GB4461@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 05:11:11PM -0700, Shah Sharif wrote: > Hi, > I was trying to run X server after my I have intalled > the cygwin. > I have chosen to install 'all' the packages. > > In order to run the X server I have typed in the > following command: > > /usr/X11R6/bin/startx > > After typing that command,I am getting the following > error msg. > **************************************8 > > XWin was started with the following > > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X > Project > Release: 6.8.2.0-4 > > Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > XWin was > started with the following command line: > > > > X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard > > > ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default > screens > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix > should be set to root > winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on > > display 0 > > Fatal server error: > InitOutput - Duplicate > invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. > > winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progres > > *************************************** http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#duplicate-invocation -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reid.thompson@ateb.com Fri Sep 30 02:58:00 2005 From: reid.thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:00 -0000 Subject: Running X Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433CA9F8.5060906@ateb.com> Shah Sharif wrote: > Hi, > I was trying to run X server after my I have intalled > the cygwin. > I have chosen to install 'all' the packages. > > In order to run the X server I have typed in the > following command: > > /usr/X11R6/bin/startx > use /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pkrastev@globul.bg Fri Sep 30 08:01:00 2005 From: pkrastev@globul.bg (Pavel Krustev) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:01:00 -0000 Subject: 3-Button wheel mouse application problem with Cygwin-Xorg In-Reply-To: References: <200509291155.23208.pkrastev@globul.bg> Message-ID: <200509301059.35396.pkrastev@globul.bg> Hi again, I think it doesn't matter whether it's on or off, I just tried all possible combinations of right-click + ctrl/alt/shift/scroll-lock/caps-lock/winkey etc. and the beast wouldn't notice at all, it just doesn't open the needed right-click menu. I noticed another strange behaviour - in other partially working right-click area the right-button menu pops up but nothing happens if I release the right button over it (i.e. *clicking* on the menu with the mouse rbutton). It works only if I keep the right button pressed and click with the left one - which is not the ordinary behaviour of the app and this area. My guess still is that Xorg and Xfree have some subtle differences and they affect this app precisely. Can I find somewhere an older cygwin release with Xfree server to check if the speculation is right? Thanks for your help :) Pavel ?? 2005 09 29 22:30 Cary Jamison ??????: > Pavel Krustev wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have difficulties running a specific X application which runs in > > the Xorg X server. > > > > The problem is that in some specific areas of this app the right > > mouse button click refuses to open the related menu over an object > > and thus renders the app unusable with cygwin-xorg. The problem is > > only in this app - all other right clicks elsewhere work fine, I > > think the app is poorly written but unfortunately it is the most > > important gui application for my work and I cannot stop to use it. > > Is your numlock on? That is often the source of these types of problems > (it is treated as a modifier key, like shift/control/alt/meta/etc.). > > Cary > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Pavel Krustev NMS Administrator, Cosmo Bulgaria Mobile mobile: +359 898 400 842 pkrastev@globul.bg -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ab2540@columbia.edu Fri Sep 30 19:01:00 2005 From: ab2540@columbia.edu (Anna Barnes) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:01:00 -0000 Subject: X11 forwarding connection refused Message-ID: Hi I'm sorry I know this question has been asked many times but I have searched FAQ and followed all the suggestions listed there for X11 forwarding, for example I have set X11 forwarding to yes in the ssh_config files on both the client and the server. I have also set the DISPLAY variable, and tried using xhost + I have also tried some of the solutions previously mentioned but I still get the error message when I try and run any of the applications on our apps server....... connect localhost port 6000: connection refused X connection to nimbus:12.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) I will also add that I never get any of these problems with my apple mac versions of X11. Thanks Anna -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Fri Sep 30 19:35:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:35:00 -0000 Subject: X11 forwarding connection refused In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Anna Barnes wrote: > Hi > I'm sorry I know this question has been asked many times but I have > searched FAQ and followed all the suggestions listed there for X11 > forwarding, for example I have set X11 forwarding to yes in the > ssh_config files on both the client and the server. I have also set the > DISPLAY variable, and tried using xhost + I have also tried some of the > solutions previously mentioned but I still get the error message when I > try and run any of the applications on our apps server....... > > connect localhost port 6000: connection refused > X connection to nimbus:12.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) > > I will also add that I never get any of these problems with my apple mac > versions of X11. Sounds like the X server is not accepting connections. Can you run local X clients (e.g., xterm)? FWIW, you don't need to use "xhost +" with ssh forwarding. Also, see if helps... Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! 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