From paul.loewenstein@gmail.com Wed Apr 1 05:31:00 2009 From: paul.loewenstein@gmail.com (Paul Loewenstein) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:31:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCHES] Re: keypad assignments In-Reply-To: <49D13BB8.2050308@gmail.com> References: <200903251016.n2PAGbqU018742@mail.bln1.bf.nsn-intra.net> <49D13BB8.2050308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49D2FC32.3090508@gmail.com> To Cygwin maintainers: Attached are two unidiff files for correcting the problem of translating numeric keypad navigation keys to editing keypad navigation keys. Editing keypad navigation is now only forced in the absence of a scancode. Paul Paul Loewenstein wrote: > Thomas, > > I believe I have fixed the problem. What program do you use for > displaying the keycodes so I can test the fix before sending in the > patch? > > Paul > > Thomas Wolff wrote: >> Hello, >> I've managed to re-activate my Cygwin/XFree (there had been this >> disabled keyboard problem with a non-cygwin XKEYSYMDB variable >> setting since some recent release...). >> So I discovered that, assumedly with that recent major revision, a >> keyboard handling deficiency has been introduced: >> >> The keys of the right keypad (aka "numeric keypad") do no longer emit >> the keysyms KP_Home, KP_Up etc as they used to do but just plainly >> Home, Up etc which are also the keysyms of the small keypad (aka >> "editing keypad"). This makes them indistinguishable for any >> application - even worse, this cannot be fixed by configuration since >> they even send the same keycodes! >> >> These are different keys - considering them as aliases is a waste of >> physical resources - and they must be distinguishable for an >> application. >> That means, they must have different keycodes and they should also >> have different keysyms by default - that's what the KP_ keysyms are >> designed for. >> >> Thanks and kind regards, >> Thomas >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >> Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >> FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: winkeybd.c.diff URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: winkeybd.h.diff URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 1 07:24:00 2009 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:24:00 -0000 Subject: [PATCHES] Re: keypad assignments Message-ID: <49D31698.2090201@users.sourceforge.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Paul Loewenstein wrote: > Attached are two unidiff files for correcting the problem of translating > numeric keypad navigation keys to editing keypad navigation keys. > Editing keypad navigation is now only forced in the absence of a > scancode. Thanks for the patches; I have added these to the queue for xorg-server-1.6.0. Yaakov Cygwin/X -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAknTFpgACgkQpiWmPGlmQSP/fQCePPyznplPKHbGTd5T8pGpsT2s 1pYAoOjOA4oq/tlqnSUyKrPb/iW42UHr =iSC+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From catia.lavalle@bechtle.com Wed Apr 1 12:46:00 2009 From: catia.lavalle@bechtle.com (catia.lavalle@bechtle.com) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:46:00 -0000 Subject: XWin wrong fonts after update Message-ID: Hallo, I've been using since ages cygwin and XWin (XWin :0 -clipboard -multiwindow) on a Win XP Prof 32bit and I had no problems at all. Last update of cygwin I did was some month ago (I do not know exactly when). Yesterday afternoon I did again an update (like I always did without looking at he home page of cygwin) and I have realized that the X.org was updated. The problem is since then a graphical application which is ssh tunneled from a remote linux machine, which was working until the update, now is showing up with horrible (almost not readable) text fonts (Is there a way to attach a screenshot?). I have tried to do a new installation of cygwin on another machine. On the fresh installed machine the same application exports fine with the correct fonts. This means that the update is the problem. So how to get it work now? Thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Phil.Betts@ascribe.com Wed Apr 1 13:29:00 2009 From: Phil.Betts@ascribe.com (Phil Betts) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:29:00 -0000 Subject: XWin wrong fonts after update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E25AF06EFB9EA4A87C19BC98F5C875302F25058@core-email.int.ascribe.com> catia.lavalle@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > I've been using since ages cygwin and XWin (XWin :0 -clipboard > -multiwindow) on a Win XP Prof 32bit and I had no problems at all. Last > update of cygwin I did was some month ago (I do not know exactly when). > Yesterday afternoon I did again an update (like I always did without > looking at he home page of cygwin) and I have realized that the X.org > was updated. You can always tell which packages are going to be updated by clicking the View button in setup.exe until the label next to it reads "Partial". In fact, I wouldn't recommend updating without first checking that list. You should then read the announcements for the packages about to be updated so that you're not surprised by any changes. The X update was a VERY large one and came with quite a detailed announcement. > The problem is since then a graphical application which is ssh tunneled > from a remote linux machine, which was working until the update, now is > showing up with horrible (almost not readable) text fonts (Is there a > way > to attach a screenshot?). There's no point. Anyone subscribed to this list will already know what your problem is. > I have tried to do a new installation of cygwin on another machine. On > the > fresh installed machine the same application exports fine with the > correct > fonts. > > This means that the update is the problem. No. The problem is that you didn't do your research before updating, and once you had the problem, you don't appear to have tried to find out the answer before posting your question. Please look in the announcements archive at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/ You should then check the FAQ here http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/ and the user guide here http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/ If you're still not sure what your problem is, before posting again please search the archives of this mailing list at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ where the topic has been discussed MANY times. Phil This email has been scanned by Ascribe Ltd using Microsoft Antigen for Exchange. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jrynik@yahoo.co.uk Wed Apr 1 13:46:00 2009 From: jrynik@yahoo.co.uk (Jaroslav Rynik) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:46:00 -0000 Subject: 'no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH' error message on install Message-ID: <10278.89902.qm@web26107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello, when I wanted to install, the program with cygwin (using package for NetBSD), the error message "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" came up. However, I have installed cygwin directly from web not unsellecting any option, so the instalation should be complete. The program is installed in D:\pokus\cygwin directory. To keep track all the steps I made, I send the picture of 3 screenshot showing all I have done until the error message appeared. 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Obviously it can happen that something is buggy or does not work for one or another reason the way it should, but for sure this is to be seen as a bug and not as stupidity of the people who install the update. And at the end of the day what should people do keep the "old" packages all life long? sometimes I will be "forced" to trust you and apply the update anyway, and the X.org major update is now "old" (November 2008). If something needs manual "help" before the update procedure can be performed (which should never happen if the update procedure is good enough), a warning message should pop up. Even if I accept (which I do not really) that I was not enough careful in applying the update what should I do now: kill myself? reinstall the whole system or are you willing to give an hint how to restore the functionality? If there is no point in attaching a screen shot and you are soo good in understanding what I mean, you would be soo good even in answering right away solving the problem instead replying with an useless polemic mail, right? p.s. I did googled and I did look in the previous threads and I did not find any answer to my question, that's why am am asking. Externe Mail : cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 01.04.2009 15:29 Gesendet von: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com Bitte antworten an cygwin-xfree An: Kopie: Thema: RE: XWin wrong fonts after update catia.lavalle@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > I've been using since ages cygwin and XWin (XWin :0 -clipboard > -multiwindow) on a Win XP Prof 32bit and I had no problems at all. Last > update of cygwin I did was some month ago (I do not know exactly when). > Yesterday afternoon I did again an update (like I always did without > looking at he home page of cygwin) and I have realized that the X.org > was updated. You can always tell which packages are going to be updated by clicking the View button in setup.exe until the label next to it reads "Partial". In fact, I wouldn't recommend updating without first checking that list. You should then read the announcements for the packages about to be updated so that you're not surprised by any changes. The X update was a VERY large one and came with quite a detailed announcement. > The problem is since then a graphical application which is ssh tunneled > from a remote linux machine, which was working until the update, now is > showing up with horrible (almost not readable) text fonts (Is there a > way > to attach a screenshot?). There's no point. Anyone subscribed to this list will already know what your problem is. > I have tried to do a new installation of cygwin on another machine. On > the > fresh installed machine the same application exports fine with the > correct > fonts. > > This means that the update is the problem. No. The problem is that you didn't do your research before updating, and once you had the problem, you don't appear to have tried to find out the answer before posting your question. Please look in the announcements archive at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/ You should then check the FAQ here http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/ and the user guide here http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/ If you're still not sure what your problem is, before posting again please search the archives of this mailing list at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ where the topic has been discussed MANY times. Phil This email has been scanned by Ascribe Ltd using Microsoft Antigen for Exchange. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From raphael.langella@steria.cnes.fr Wed Apr 1 15:21:00 2009 From: raphael.langella@steria.cnes.fr (Langella Raphael) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:21:00 -0000 Subject: drop-down menu with multiwindow option doesn't work Message-ID: <092785B790DCD043BA45401EDA43D9B504180536@cst-xch-003.cnesnet.ad.cnes.fr> Hi, I'm using Tecplot 360, a proprietary program written with a Motif toolkit. It runs on a Linux server and the display is a win2k PC with cygwin X Server 1.5.3. The problem only happens with the multiwindow option. The problem is with the drop-down menu. When I click it, it seems the menu appears behind the window and immediately disappear. I made a screenshot of it but didn't attached it because I'm not sure about the file attachment policy of the mailing list. There's a grey rectangle that briefly appears under the window. It's plain grey, with no text in it. I understand that the problem is probably related to the Windows wm, since it doesn't show up without the multiwindow option, but I was wondering if it's a known bug. Or maybe it's win2k specific? I've got a workaround: rootless option and any Unix wm, but I'd like to understand what is causing this problem. Thanks for your attention. Rapha?l Langella -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dirk.fassbender@arcor.de Wed Apr 1 15:25:00 2009 From: dirk.fassbender@arcor.de (Dirk Fassbender) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:25:00 -0000 Subject: XWin wrong fonts after update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49D38745.1080701@arcor.de> catia.lavalle@bechtle.com schrieb: Please check the FAQ for informations about the update: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#modular There are some changes in the location of file after the upgrade, so you have to set up old start scripts for the X server to the new structure. If you can not solve the problem with, the informations in the FAQ, please follow the instructions for reporting a problem: Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html You can check the output of cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out on both computers to see differences. I think it is important to know how you start the X server on both computers and to check for differences in the start up scripts. Regards Dirk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Phil.Betts@ascribe.com Wed Apr 1 15:28:00 2009 From: Phil.Betts@ascribe.com (Phil Betts) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:28:00 -0000 Subject: 'no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH' error message on install In-Reply-To: <10278.89902.qm@web26107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <10278.89902.qm@web26107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E25AF06EFB9EA4A87C19BC98F5C875302F251DC@core-email.int.ascribe.com> Jaroslav Rynik wrote: > when I wanted to install, the program with cygwin (using package for > NetBSD), the error message "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" > came up. This list is for X related questions only, setting the follow-up address to the main cygwin list. > However, I have installed cygwin directly from web not unsellecting any > option, so the instalation should be complete. The program is > installed in D:\pokus\cygwin directory. Only a limited set of packages is installed by default. You have to manually select the compiler(s) and other development tools. Just re-run setup.exe and select the appropriate gcc packages. > To keep track all the steps I made, I send the picture of 3 screenshot > showing all I have done until the error message appeared. I also attach > the log file made by cygwin after the action. > > If you need any further information, feel welcome to let me know. > It would have been better if you had followed the instructions in this link: > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html In particular, note the part about *attaching* the output from running "cygcheck -svr". That would let us know which packages were actually installed. If re-running setup doesn't solve your problem, then that attachment would be very useful. Phil This email has been scanned by Ascribe Ltd using Microsoft Antigen for Exchange. From Phil.Betts@ascribe.com Wed Apr 1 17:30:00 2009 From: Phil.Betts@ascribe.com (Phil Betts) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:30:00 -0000 Subject: XWin wrong fonts after update In-Reply-To: References: <5E25AF06EFB9EA4A87C19BC98F5C875302F25058@core-email.int.ascribe.com> Message-ID: <5E25AF06EFB9EA4A87C19BC98F5C875302F252B9@core-email.int.ascribe.com> catia.lavalle@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > I know I can always tell which packages are to be updated, what > if I do not what to? You click on the second column until it says "Keep". The interface could be more user friendly, but it does the job. I've not updated this PC to X11R7 because I need a server with accelerated GL. That hasn't stopped me from updating the rest of my cygwin packages. The rest of your response was just a pointless and unwarranted rant. Just follow the links I gave you, do what they tell you, and if you've still got a problem, we can start dealing with it. > Even if I accept (which I do not really) that I was not enough careful > in applying the update what should I do now: kill myself? Erm... only if you really, really want to, and it has to be your own decision. > p.s. I did googled and I did look in the previous threads and I did > not find any answer to my question, that's why am am asking. I just googled too, for "fonts site:x.cygwin.com", and the first result was the cygwin X FAQ that I previously listed. The section on updates includes what is almost certainly the answer to your problem. If your problem genuinely is not covered by any of the links I gave you, then by all means post a follow-up, but in that case, you should tell us exactly what you *have* tried to resolve it, and why your problem isn't covered by the existing documentation. If you don't include that information, then we can only assume that the existing answers are good enough, but that you've not read or tried them. If you don't understand the documentation, then that is an equally valid point to raise. I assume from your email that you are not a native English speaker, and so it's possible that the language could be made simpler for you. If this is the case for you, then you should say which parts need clarifying. Remember, this is free software, written, maintained and supported by unpaid volunteers. Nobody owes you anything. Phil This email has been scanned by Ascribe Ltd using Microsoft Antigen for Exchange. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From catia.lavalle@bechtle.com Thu Apr 2 07:42:00 2009 From: catia.lavalle@bechtle.com (catia.lavalle@bechtle.com) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:42:00 -0000 Subject: XWin wrong fonts after update In-Reply-To: <49D38745.1080701@arcor.de> Message-ID: Thanks a lot Dirk! Your link did the trick. I have installed the font-adobe-dpi75 and now the remote application does work properly! I have already saw the hint on the net of installing the abobe fonts but it was always correlated to emacs showing up with bad fonts ... but my emacs (xamacs) was showing up absolutely properly! that's why I assumed it was not my case! I still do not understand why I had to install it. I mean: 1) Before it was not installed and the remote application was working properly. Even in the web page "Some packages dependencies have not yet been updated for the fonts they require " well it is a remote application so it should not have anything to do with "local package dependencies": either the font is there or not ..... I guess .. I might be wrong, I am not an X expert. 2) I had a look now at the test system I have installed yesterday (cygwin fresh installed on the up-to-date version, not an update), which did always work. There the font-adobe-dpi75 are not installed and anyway it works. So again (that was my comment on my first mail which maybe was misunderstood): it seems to me that there is a difference between 2 systems which are at the newest state now but one of them was installed in the newest state, the other one was updated to the newest state. I have executed the cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out command on both machines, I have noticed no special differences, obviously the 2 hardware are different, the software installed is different and in the test system there are much less cygwin packages installed being a test. Anyway I had more fonts installed on the productive system then on the test system (follow the list of fonts that were on the prod system which were not on the test font-alias 1.0.1-1 font-bitstream-dpi75 1.0.0-1 font-bitstream-type1 1.0.0-1 font-encodings 1.0.2-1 font-misc-misc 1.0.0-1 ghostscript-fonts-other 6.0-1 ghostscript-fonts-std 8.11-1 ). (I can post the 2 complete outputs if you wish). The thing which makes me still worried is: which other fonts should I extra install to be safe for "future applications". I explain: I am a sysadmin and it happens that I startup remotely graphical applications which would be unpleasant to be forced to stop while executing because of missing fonts (installing stuffs). For completeness I tell you the whole story: * In the past I always started X with the Mortens X-Launcher with the multiwindow & clipboard options set (rest = default) * yesterday I have started the X from the command line (from rxvt) with /usr/bin/XWin.exe :0 -clipboard -multiwindow . The "problem" was that I got no warning and no error whatsoever on console!! * today I have tried to start X from the Start link (the /usr/bin/startxwin.bat ): nothing has started, no X no error. * then I have started X from command line (from rxvt) with /usr/bin/run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat and I got on console an error: /usr/bin/run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000/XP/2003 Das System kann den angegebenen Pfad nicht finden. Das System kann den angegebenen Pfad nicht finden. (path not found) and no I had no X. * then I have started X from command line (from rxvt) with /usr/bin/startxwin.sh . I have got X, the same console output as yesterday + DECISIVE the Warning "Warning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct" It was then clear to me what to do. So thanks again. p.s. Note just to report: even now I get the same error using startxwin.bat, and on the test system there is no /usr/bin/startxwin* at all. p.p.s. @Phil: I work professionally with Unix/Linux Systems since more then 10 Years and I am a Dr. in theoretical Physics. There are for sure tons of things I do not know, I have never worked on and I am not an expert on and I always welcome everybody teaching me something new, but for sure I am not stupid and DO understand things I read, if I don't, I ask. I DO know very well the principle of free software and one of the main principles is" I help you, you help me and things go forward. not because I got paid for what I do but because I want to share my knowledge, my expertise and my time". That's why I find very low level and out of place such no-point ,aggressive, self-satisfied answer in such mailing lists/forum. If you find my question stupid, just do not loose your time answering me, you have not to. And again on free software: it is exactly because I KNOW what free software is that I report problems (not only because I want them solved ... there are other solutions without cygwin to have an X server running!!!). The fact that I report something not working, no matter why, is to be taken with an "ops" maybe we should fine-tune it for the next time so that such problems do not pop up, because, you can trust me there are for sure tons of people out there which have had the same problem and do not have the skill, the time, the will to report the problem and/or to "understand" (as you say) the solution. Free software for sure does not mean you have to be an expert in everything you are willing to use! Externe Mail : cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 01.04.2009 17:24 Gesendet von: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com Bitte antworten an cygwin-xfree An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Kopie: Thema: Re: XWin wrong fonts after update catia.lavalle@bechtle.com schrieb: Please check the FAQ for informations about the update: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#modular There are some changes in the location of file after the upgrade, so you have to set up old start scripts for the X server to the new structure. If you can not solve the problem with, the informations in the FAQ, please follow the instructions for reporting a problem: Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html You can check the output of cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out on both computers to see differences. I think it is important to know how you start the X server on both computers and to check for differences in the start up scripts. Regards Dirk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From towo@computer.org Thu Apr 2 14:47:00 2009 From: towo@computer.org (Thomas Wolff) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:47:00 -0000 Subject: keypad assignments In-Reply-To: <49D13BB8.2050308@gmail.com> References: <49D13BB8.2050308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200904021446.n32EkpGD024936@mail.bln1.bf.nsn-intra.net> > Thomas, > > I believe I have fixed the problem. What program do you use for > displaying the keycodes so I can test the fix before sending in the patch? Hi Paul, xev is the program for testing, thanks. Thomas > > Paul > > Thomas Wolff wrote: > > Hello, > > I've managed to re-activate my Cygwin/XFree (there had been this > > disabled keyboard problem with a non-cygwin XKEYSYMDB variable setting > > since some recent release...). > > So I discovered that, assumedly with that recent major revision, > > a keyboard handling deficiency has been introduced: > > > > The keys of the right keypad (aka "numeric keypad") do no longer > > emit the keysyms KP_Home, KP_Up etc as they used to do but just > > plainly Home, Up etc which are also the keysyms of the small keypad > > (aka "editing keypad"). This makes them indistinguishable for any > > application - even worse, this cannot be fixed by configuration since > > they even send the same keycodes! > > > > These are different keys - considering them as aliases is a waste of > > physical resources - and they must be distinguishable for an application. > > That means, they must have different keycodes and they should also have > > different keysyms by default - that's what the KP_ keysyms are designed for. > > > > Thanks and kind regards, > > Thomas > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Phil.Betts@ascribe.com Thu Apr 2 15:24:00 2009 From: Phil.Betts@ascribe.com (Phil Betts) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:24:00 -0000 Subject: drop-down menu with multiwindow option doesn't work In-Reply-To: <092785B790DCD043BA45401EDA43D9B504180536@cst-xch-003.cnesnet.ad.cnes.fr> References: <092785B790DCD043BA45401EDA43D9B504180536@cst-xch-003.cnesnet.ad.cnes.fr> Message-ID: <5E25AF06EFB9EA4A87C19BC98F5C875302F66857@core-email.int.ascribe.com> Rapha?l Langella wrote: > Hi, > I'm using Tecplot 360, a proprietary program written with a Motif > toolkit. It runs on a Linux server and the display is a win2k PC > with cygwin X Server 1.5.3. The problem only happens with the > multiwindow option. > The problem is with the drop-down menu. When I click it, it > seems the menu appears behind the window and immediately disappear. > I made a screenshot of it but didn't attached it because I'm not > sure about the file attachment policy of the mailing list. There's > a grey rectangle that briefly appears under the window. It's plain > grey, with no text in it. > I understand that the problem is probably related to the > Windows wm, since it doesn't show up without the multiwindow > option, but I was wondering if it's a known bug. Or maybe it's > win2k specific? > I've got a workaround: rootless option and any Unix wm, but I'd > like to understand what is causing this problem. > Thanks for your attention. > > Rapha?l Langella I was waiting to see if you got a reply from someone else, as I don't really have a solution for you. However, Windows seems to have real difficulties with Z-ordering: MS Word opens a new document beneath an existing one, modal dialogs often open below the parent window (which is a real PITA because you can't move the parent!), always-on-top widgets are often hidden below something else, and desktop widgets obscure application windows. (Only MS has the resources to screw up such a simple concept so comprehensively!) Having said that, I use emacs on X every day, and I can't remember its menus ever appearing below the main window (except perhaps a very early version of XWin. The emacs version I run was compiled to use the X toolkit. I would guess that when Motif creates the window for the menu, it's not setting a hint which multiwindow mode requires in order to force the correct Z-order. It might be worth checking what the difference is between Xt menu creation and Motif menu creation. If that's the case, it's not clear where the "blame" lies. It might be that Motif just happens to work on UNIX based servers, and XWin just exposes a long-standing bug. Conversely, it may be that XWin is misinterpreting the hints that Motif sets up, and doesn't set up the Windows' window with the correct flags. Perhaps Yaakov or Jon could shed more light on this? In the meantime, I think you've already found the best workaround. I suspect the reason the menu window disappears is because your mouse is still in the parent window, and gives it the focus, so Motif thinks you've moved off the menu and closes it. Phil -- This email has been scanned by Ascribe Ltd using Microsoft Antigen for Exchange. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From towo@computer.org Thu Apr 2 15:48:00 2009 From: towo@computer.org (Thomas Wolff) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:48:00 -0000 Subject: [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-45 In-Reply-To: <20090331111757.GA22043@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20090331111757.GA22043@calimero.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <200904021548.n32FmJff025399@mail.bln1.bf.nsn-intra.net> Corinna Vinschen wrote on cygwin-announce: > Hi folks, > > > I just uploaded a new Cygwin 1.7 test release, 1.7.0-45. > > ... > > > What's new in contrast to 1.7.0-44 > =================================== > > - A lot of character sets are supported now via a call to setlocale(). > The setting of the environment variables $LANG, $LC_ALL or $LC_CTYPE will > be used. For instance, setting $LANG to "de_DE.ISO-8859-15" before > starting a Cygwin session will use the ISO-8859-15 character set in > the entire session. UTF-8 is supported as well, as in "en_US.UTF-8". > > Along these lines, the "CYGWIN=codepage:{ansi,oem}" setting has been > removed in favor of using $LANG, $LC_ALL, or $LC_CTYPE. > This is a great step (to say that again). Now that cygwin supports UTF-8 in a standard fashion, I think it's time to also add Unicode fonts to the Cygwin/X distribution. Otherwise the additional value of running xterm or rxvt in UTF-8 mode is quite limited. I would be willing to provide the Unicode versions of the standard "misc-fixed" fonts (source: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html) as a package maintainer, if that's accepted. (I would appreciate some positive feedback before taking the effort to prepare the package.) Kind regards, Thomas -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From arnaud.cheritat@gmail.com Fri Apr 3 08:03:00 2009 From: arnaud.cheritat@gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arnaud_Ch=E9ritat?=) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:03:00 -0000 Subject: error in doc Message-ID: Hi there slight mistake in doc http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html the shell scripts now are in /bin not in /usr/bin Best Regards, A.C. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Phil.Betts@ascribe.com Fri Apr 3 08:20:00 2009 From: Phil.Betts@ascribe.com (Phil Betts) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:20:00 -0000 Subject: error in doc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E25AF06EFB9EA4A87C19BC98F5C875302F66B55@core-email.int.ascribe.com> Arnaud Ch?ritat wrote: > slight mistake in doc http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html > the shell scripts now are in /bin not in /usr/bin In Cygwin, /bin IS /usr/bin. /usr/bin is just a mount point. Phil This email has been scanned by Ascribe Ltd using Microsoft Antigen for Exchange. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jeffrosquad@hotmail.com Fri Apr 3 18:48:00 2009 From: jeffrosquad@hotmail.com (Jeff Irwin) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:48:00 -0000 Subject: Background processes with Cygwin Message-ID: I have been beating my head on a wall for two weeks and have googled til my fingers bled. I am running windows server 2003 with cygwin. I am attempting to get a bash script to continue to run in cygwin even after I have logged out. I have tried several different tactics. The most recent and closest to success has been using the ?nohup? command. I am opening a cygwin bash window and typing the following: $ nohup mycommand.bash & The script runs in the background but the bash window stays open. When I log out or try to close the window I executed nohup from, I get the following error?? $ 3 [main] ? child_copy: cygheap read copy failed, 0x611688E0..0x611706D0m dibe 0, windows pid 0, Win32 error 5 1876 [main] bash 5072 child_copy: dll data read copy failed, 0x61102000..0x61106BA0, done 0, windows pid 5072, Win32 error 5 The window will stay up for a few minutes and then go away and the script that was running is now dead. I am not an expert by any means so any help regardless of elementary is appreciated. I know I am not the first squirrel to try to crack this nut so I figured I would toss this out in hopes some ?big brain? would take notice and pity. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pjfarley3@yahoo.com Sun Apr 5 01:50:00 2009 From: pjfarley3@yahoo.com (Peter Farley) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:50:00 -0000 Subject: Background processes with Cygwin Message-ID: <628621.53738.qm@web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Jeff Irwin wrote: > From: Jeff Irwin > Subject: Background processes with Cygwin > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:48 PM > The window will stay up for a few minutes and then go away > and the script that was running is now dead.? > > I am not an expert by any means so any help regardless of > elementary is appreciated.? I know I am not the first > squirrel to try to crack this nut so I figured I would toss > this out in hopes some ?big brain? would take notice and > pity. PMFJI here, but if you log out of Cygwin, then the Cygwin process terminates. Why would you think that a process started under Cygwin could survive the termination of Cygwin? That just doesn't make sense, even to this raw newbie. Among other things, the whole *ix environment that Cygwin provides would be gone, so how could your process possibly continue? This isn't "real" *ix, it's *ix facilities provided under the control of another quite different (and generally more hostile) OS environment. Maybe I'm missing something crucial in my understanding of how Cygwin and Windows operate. If so, I'd appreciate a cure for my ignorance. Peter -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From godlygeek@gmail.com Sun Apr 5 03:02:00 2009 From: godlygeek@gmail.com (Matt Wozniski) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:02:00 -0000 Subject: Background processes with Cygwin In-Reply-To: <628621.53738.qm@web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <628621.53738.qm@web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17393e3e0904042002q3d90cff5xe3c4f0d400a5ae56@mail.gmail.com> http://www.cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Peter Farley wrote: > > --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Jeff Irwin wrote: Don't quote headers like this. It's not useful to anyone, and it feeds the spammers. >> From: Jeff Irwin >> Subject: Background processes with Cygwin >> To: xxx@xxx.xxx >> Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:48 PM > http://www.cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTWLL - Reformatted > PMFJI here, but if you log out of Cygwin, then the Cygwin process terminates. > Why would you think that a process started under Cygwin could survive the > termination of Cygwin? That just doesn't make sense, even to this raw > newbie. You're missing something big. Cygwin isn't a process. It's a DLL that provides a UNIX-like environment. You don't terminate cygwin, you terminate a shell that's using the Unix emulation provided by cygwin1.dll. > Among other things, the whole *ix environment that Cygwin provides would be > gone, so how could your process possibly continue? This isn't "real" *ix, > it's *ix facilities provided under the control of another quite different > (and generally more hostile) OS environment. The *ix facilities are provided by a DLL, not by a process, and the applications can continue running after the shell exits, just like in any other *ix - the DLL didn't go away, after all. > Maybe I'm missing something crucial in my understanding of how Cygwin and > Windows operate. If so, I'd appreciate a cure for my ignorance. Hopefully this clears things up. Unfortunately, I'm not sure why things aren't working for the OP. In any event, switching to the main cygwin list instead of the cygwin-xfree list (which is only for X11 related issues) would probably help get him the help he needs. ~Matt -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pjfarley3@yahoo.com Mon Apr 6 03:23:00 2009 From: pjfarley3@yahoo.com (Peter Farley) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:23:00 -0000 Subject: Background processes with Cygwin Message-ID: <931998.14891.qm@web31004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Matt Wozniski wrote: > From: Matt Wozniski > Subject: Re: Background processes with Cygwin > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 11:02 PM > http://www.cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Peter Farley > wrote: > > > > --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Jeff Irwin wrote: > > Don't quote headers like this.? It's not useful to > anyone, and it feeds the spammers. > > >> From: Jeff Irwin > >> Subject: Background processes with Cygwin > >> To: > >> Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:48 PM > > > > http://www.cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTWLL > - Reformatted > > > PMFJI here, but if you log out of Cygwin, then the > > Cygwin process terminates. Why would you think > > that a process started under Cygwin could survive > > the termination of Cygwin?? That just doesn't make > > sense, even to this raw newbie. > > You're missing something big.? Cygwin isn't a > process.? It's a DLL that provides a UNIX-like > environment.? You don't terminate cygwin, you > terminate a shell that's using the Unix > emulation provided by cygwin1.dll. > > > Among other things, the whole *ix environment > > that Cygwin provides would be gone, so how could > > your process possibly continue?? This isn't "real" > > *ix, it's *ix facilities provided under the > > control of another quite different > > (and generally more hostile) OS environment. > > The *ix facilities are provided by a DLL, not by a > process, and the applications can continue running > after the shell exits, just like in any other > *ix - the DLL didn't go away, after all. > > > Maybe I'm missing something crucial in my > > understanding of how Cygwin and Windows operate. > > If so, I'd appreciate a cure for my ignorance. > > Hopefully this clears things up.? Unfortunately, I'm > not sure why things aren't > working for the OP.? In any event, switching to the > main cygwin list instead of > the cygwin-xfree list (which is only for X11 related > issues) would probably > help get him the help he needs. Apologies for both of those trespasses. I didn't look at what yahoo mail was generating. Serves me right for not looking. Mea maxima culpa, and I will check first and fix it in the future. Unfortunately yahoo's web email isn't very bright. And thank you for those explanations. They do help cure my ignorance. Peter -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin@cwilson.fastmail.fm Mon Apr 6 16:09:00 2009 From: cygwin@cwilson.fastmail.fm (Charles Wilson) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:09:00 -0000 Subject: [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-45 Message-ID: <1239034156.3182.1309213319@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thomas Wolff wrote: > Now that cygwin supports UTF-8 in a standard fashion, I think it's time > to also add Unicode fonts to the Cygwin/X distribution. Otherwise the > additional value of running xterm or rxvt in UTF-8 mode is quite limited. > > I would be willing to provide the Unicode versions of the standard > "misc-fixed" fonts (source: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html) > as a package maintainer, if that's accepted. > (I would appreciate some positive feedback before taking the effort > to prepare the package.) I think this is a great idea. Please do prepare a package and post an official ITP (I'm not sure if X-specific package proposals should be ITP'ed on cygwin-xfree or cygwin-apps). I'm hoping that cygwin-1.7 + rxvt-unicode-8.x (+ ncurses configured for wide char support?) will replace the need for your earlier "unicode shims" contribution to rxvt-unicode. It'd certainly be easier to test that with some unicode fonts already in the distro... It might also be a good idea to supplement the existing font-bitstream-vera-ttf package with the DejaVu fonts http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page (or DejaVu-LGC [Latin-Greek-Cyrillic] for the less-ambitious). Fedora packages them as dejavu-sans-fonts dejavu-sans-mono-fonts dejavu-serif-fonts dejavu-fonts-common since unicode fonts can get rather large... -- Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From InsuranceRates@momseducations.com Tue Apr 7 00:30:00 2009 From: InsuranceRates@momseducations.com (Insurance Rates) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:30:00 -0000 Subject: Insurance Rates Drop to lowest levels in 2009 Message-ID: <5503376.1239064193.JavaMail.root@momseducations.com> One good thing of this bad economy is that insurance rates have dropped to their lowest level in years Auto, life, home, and even health http://www.momseducations.com/totheir/lowest.html Take advantage now while rates have lowered!! 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It runs on a Linux server and the display is a > win2k PC with > > cygwin X Server 1.5.3. The problem only happens with the > multiwindow > > option. > > The problem is with the drop-down menu. When I click > it, it seems the > > menu appears behind the window and immediately disappear. > > I made a screenshot of it but didn't attached it because > I'm not sure > > about the file attachment policy of the mailing list. > There's a grey > > rectangle that briefly appears under the window. It's plain > grey, with > > no text in it. > > I understand that the problem is probably related to > the Windows wm, > > since it doesn't show up without the multiwindow option, but I was > > wondering if it's a known bug. Or maybe it's win2k specific? > > I've got a workaround: rootless option and any Unix wm, > but I'd like > > to understand what is causing this problem. > > Thanks for your attention. > > > > Rapha?l Langella > > I was waiting to see if you got a reply from someone else, as > I don't really have a solution for you. However, Windows > seems to have real difficulties with Z-ordering: MS Word > opens a new document beneath an existing one, modal dialogs > often open below the parent window (which is a real PITA > because you can't move the parent!), always-on-top widgets > are often hidden below something else, and desktop widgets > obscure application windows. (Only MS has the resources to > screw up such a simple concept so > comprehensively!) > > Having said that, I use emacs on X every day, and I can't > remember its menus ever appearing below the main window > (except perhaps a very early version of XWin. The emacs > version I run was compiled to use the X toolkit. I would > guess that when Motif creates the window for the menu, it's > not setting a hint which multiwindow mode requires in order > to force the correct Z-order. It might be worth checking > what the difference is between Xt menu creation and Motif > menu creation. > > If that's the case, it's not clear where the "blame" lies. > It might be that Motif just happens to work on UNIX based > servers, and XWin just exposes a long-standing bug. > Conversely, it may be that XWin is misinterpreting the hints > that Motif sets up, and doesn't set up the Windows' window > with the correct flags. > > Perhaps Yaakov or Jon could shed more light on this? > > In the meantime, I think you've already found the best workaround. > > I suspect the reason the menu window disappears is because > your mouse is still in the parent window, and gives it the > focus, so Motif thinks you've moved off the menu and closes it. > > Phil > -- I've sent this information to the editor but I doubt that they will help. And they are planning to move to qt, so I guesss I'll have to use this workaround until the next version. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help. I'll keep you informed if anything else show's up. Rapha?l -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 8 09:41:00 2009 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-45 In-Reply-To: <200904021548.n32FmJff025399@mail.bln1.bf.nsn-intra.net> References: <20090331111757.GA22043@calimero.vinschen.de> <200904021548.n32FmJff025399@mail.bln1.bf.nsn-intra.net> Message-ID: <49DC7148.2030207@users.sourceforge.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Thomas Wolff wrote: > Now that cygwin supports UTF-8 in a standard fashion, I think it's time > to also add Unicode fonts to the Cygwin/X distribution. Otherwise the > additional value of running xterm or rxvt in UTF-8 mode is quite limited. > > I would be willing to provide the Unicode versions of the standard > "misc-fixed" fonts (source: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html) > as a package maintainer, if that's accepted. > (I would appreciate some positive feedback before taking the effort > to prepare the package.) 1) Do any major Linux distros package these fonts? I can't find such a package in Gentoo or Debian. 2) Many of these fonts collide with those provided by X.Org. How would you intend to deal with this? Yaakov Cygwin/X -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAknccUgACgkQpiWmPGlmQSMxTwCeK2PzQ5dyFrBM7izITo/HLcY1 AQEAniGJcsVavfujUy+bGPscabk32GAv =382p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From towo@computer.org Wed Apr 8 14:24:00 2009 From: towo@computer.org (Thomas Wolff) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: Unicode fonts [was: Re: [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-45] References: <20090331111757.GA22043@calimero.vinschen.de> <200904021548.n32FmJff025399@mail.bln1.bf.nsn-intra.net> Message-ID: <200904081423.n38ENU4S005556@mail.bln1.bf.nsn-intra.net> I wrote: > Now that cygwin supports UTF-8 in a standard fashion, I think it's time > to also add Unicode fonts to the Cygwin/X distribution. Otherwise the > additional value of running xterm or rxvt in UTF-8 mode is quite limited. > > I would be willing to provide the Unicode versions of the standard > "misc-fixed" fonts (source: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html) > as a package maintainer, if that's accepted. Yaakov wrote: > 1) Do any major Linux distros package these fonts? I can't find such a > package in Gentoo or Debian. I know for sure with SUSE. I would have assumed others provide them as well since Unicode support has become standard finally, I think, and the misc-fixed fonts are kind of traditional standard fonts for xterm & co. > 2) Many of these fonts collide with those provided by X.Org. How would > you intend to deal with this? They are distinguished by font encoding. E.g. xlsfonts would include: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-10 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-11 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-13 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-14 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-15 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-16 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-2 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-3 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-4 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-5 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-7 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-8 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-9 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-koi8-r -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1 SUSE even installs them into the same directory. I would like to do that too, so I wouldn't have to care whether a new directory is included in the X font path by default (otherwise I'd have to change that in postinstall, but where is it defined?). On the other hand, installing into the same directory means fonts.dir has to be changed in postinstall (no problem) but would have to changed again in a postremove script (invoking mkfontdir after removing files) rather than preremove. I don't know how to deal with this, since postremove is not available. Is clean removal of a font package a prerequisite? Kind regards, Thomas -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From gamejihou@hotmail.com Wed Apr 8 14:37:00 2009 From: gamejihou@hotmail.com (Gery Herbozo Jimenez) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:37:00 -0000 Subject: Pipe (|) symbol under spanish keybord in xterm Message-ID: I've been working for a while with a spanish keyboard and up to now I don't know how to get the pipe (|) symbol in my xterm terminal. However, I do get it in the bash terminal without problems using Ctrl + Alt + 1. When I follow this step in the xterm I get this insted of the pipe: (arg: 1). What does it mean? Should I change something by default in the cygwin system to get the pipe?? Thanks in advance, _________________________________________________________________ ?Quieres crear tus propios emoticonos gratis? Descubre c?mo hacerlo en el Club Oficial de Messenger http://vivelive.com/ilovemessenger/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From markjreed@gmail.com Wed Apr 8 15:10:00 2009 From: markjreed@gmail.com (Mark J. Reed) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:10:00 -0000 Subject: Pipe (|) symbol under spanish keybord in xterm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Gery Herbozo Jimenez ?wrote: > I've been working for a while with a spanish keyboard http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-non-U.S.-keyboard-layout > and up to now I don't know how to get the pipe (|) symbol in my xterm terminal. However, I > do get it in the bash terminal without problems using Ctrl + Alt + 1. When I follow this step > in the xterm I get this instead of the pipe: (arg: 1). What does it mean? In readline's emacs mode, holding down the alt key while typing numbers is how you enter a repeat count for an editing command - e.g. alt-3 alt-f (hold down alt and type 3f) to go forward three words. The "(arg: 1)" means you've typed a repeat count of "1" so far (you could add more digits to make it "10" or something). ?The control key is not contributing anything in this instance. It seems X is not recognizing your keyboard layout. I'd try adding "-xkblayout es" to the X server command line, as indicated in the above FAQ entry. -- Mark J. Reed -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From gamejihou@hotmail.com Wed Apr 8 15:58:00 2009 From: gamejihou@hotmail.com (Gery Herbozo Jimenez) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:58:00 -0000 Subject: Pipe (|) symbol under spanish keybord in xterm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the tip. I run the command line: WXin.exe -xkblayout es, appeared the Cygwin/X terminal (gray one) and I got the pipe but with other key, weird or normal? should I run this command or put it in the Xorg.conf file? ---------------------------------------- > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:10:17 -0400 > Subject: Re: Pipe (|) symbol under spanish keybord in xterm > From: markjreed@gmail.com > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Gery Herbozo Jimenez wrote: >> I've been working for a while with a spanish keyboard > > http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-non-U.S.-keyboard-layout > >> and up to now I don't know how to get the pipe (|) symbol in my xterm terminal. However, I >> do get it in the bash terminal without problems using Ctrl + Alt + 1. When I follow this step >> in the xterm I get this instead of the pipe: (arg: 1). What does it mean? > > In readline's emacs mode, holding down the alt key while typing > numbers is how you enter a repeat count for an editing command - e.g. > alt-3 alt-f (hold down alt and type 3f) to go forward three words. The > "(arg: 1)" means you've typed a repeat count of "1" so far (you could > add more digits to make it "10" or something). The control key is not > contributing anything in this instance. > > It seems X is not recognizing your keyboard layout. I'd try adding > "-xkblayout es" to the X server command line, as indicated in the > above FAQ entry. > > -- > Mark J. Reed > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > _________________________________________________________________ M?s r?pido, sencillo y seguro. 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