From ajay050@gmail.com Tue Jun 1 04:49:00 2010 From: ajay050@gmail.com (Ajay Jain) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 04:49:00 -0000 Subject: Issues with Copy Paste Message-ID: Hi, The copy and paste from Xterm (using Cygwin) to my local machine is playing a hide and seek. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it does not. Can somebody please give me checklist on what to enable in default so that copy paste works between xterms and any local windows application. Many thanks in advance, Ajay. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From tony.hammitt@openwave.com Wed Jun 2 16:52:00 2010 From: tony.hammitt@openwave.com (Tony Hammitt) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:52:00 -0000 Subject: Slow response to keypresses in xorg-server-1.8.0-1 Message-ID: <1689825391190843B77E2B252432E89301E5B327@rwc-exch-prd1.myopwv.com> I have this problem too. I found a weird, non-code partial solution: run some sort of constantly-updating graphical program in the background, like ico or something like that. I think the problem is that the X server or window manager goes to sleep and won't wake up until you get its attention. I also gave the X server real time priority in windows, but it didn't really help. With ico running in the background, alt-tab works fine. I didn't have it installed with cygwin, so I xhosted it back from my linux box. I hope this is a good enough clue for the X maintainers, I'd look for differences in the code around scheduling and see if there were any optimizations related to sleeping. Thanks, Tony -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From George.Young@pco-bcp.gc.ca Thu Jun 3 20:17:00 2010 From: George.Young@pco-bcp.gc.ca (Young, George) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:17:00 -0000 Subject: Using the Canadian Multilingual Standard keyboard with Windows XP Message-ID: <6B9C55F15278D64198962D45C8AA3CCA02B4B2E8@BCL4EXC4.b.net> Using Windows XP and cygwin started with the command %RUN% XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -xkblayout ca -xkbvariant multix -xkbmodel pc104 If the Windows keyboard is set to US, cygwin works fine. If the Windows keyboard is set to Canadian Multilingual Standard, cygwin doesn't get the RightAlt and RightControl inputs. Regards, George R. Young -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From phalpern@halpernwightsoftware.com Fri Jun 4 18:40:00 2010 From: phalpern@halpernwightsoftware.com (Pablo Halpern) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:40:00 -0000 Subject: Possible issue with run.exe under Windows 7 x64 References: Message-ID: Daniel Roe gmail.com> writes: > I have this command: > > run urxvt -g 100x40 -e /bin/bash --login > > When I start up the X-server using the default shortcut > (C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startxwin.exe) > I receive an error message like this: > > Error: could not start C:\cygwin\etc\alternatives\urxvt j-g 100x40 -e > /bin/bash --login > > The characters between 'urxvt' and '-g' change each time. If I change > the command so that run.exe is not used it works fine. Maybe there is > some memory issue with run.exe on 64-bit systems? I'm having the same problem with 32-bit cygwin on Windows XP since upgrading to Cygwin 1.7. Also, where does the path C:\cygwin\etc\alternatives come from? - Pablo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From angelo.graziosi@alice.it Sun Jun 6 00:56:00 2010 From: angelo.graziosi@alice.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:56:00 -0000 Subject: XFig problems [locale?] Message-ID: <4C0AF21F.1040903@alice.it> It seems that I have discovered some problems with XFig. :( I have tried this simple test. $ /usr/bin/xfig & then I have drawn a box with 'Rectangular BOX drawing (b)'. After this, I have saved the figure (with: File | Save 'test.fig', it is attached). Now if I exit from XFig and restart it (/usr/bin/xfig &), trying to 'Open' (Meta-O) 'test.fig', I got the error: ============= File test.fig: Figure resolution or coordinate specifier missing in line 5. ====================== Examining 'test.fig' with an editor, the line 5 contains: 100,00. So I remembered that I have $ echo $LANG it_IT.UTF-8 (I do not know which Windows application has set that as system env. variable.) I tried to change 100,00 ==> 100.00 (test2.fig), but still did work. So I have tried $ export LANG=us_US.UTF-8 Now, when I start XFig, I got $ /usr/bin/xfig & $ Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged but, repeating all the above, XFig seems to work correctly: I can create and read, with XFig, 'test3.fig' (though, XFig still does not read test2.fig!). So, it remains to clarify WHY, with LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, it does not work right. Ciao, Angelo. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Eliot Moss -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From angelo.graziosi@alice.it Sun Jun 6 08:50:00 2010 From: angelo.graziosi@alice.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:50:00 -0000 Subject: XFig problems [locale?] In-Reply-To: <4C0AF21F.1040903@alice.it> References: <4C0AF21F.1040903@alice.it> Message-ID: <4C0B6152.1080309@alice.it> Il 06/06/2010 2.55, Angelo Graziosi ha scritto: > It seems that I have discovered some problems with XFig. :( Just for completeness, adding xfig() { LANG=''\ /usr/bin/xfig -specialtext -latexfonts -startlatexFont default \ "$@" 2>/dev/null } to my .bash_wrappers file, solved the problems. :-) > Ciao, > Angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From lvirden@gmail.com Mon Jun 7 17:29:00 2010 From: lvirden@gmail.com (Larry W. Virden) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:29:00 -0000 Subject: looking for ideas why an x application would display differently between cygwin/x full screen and cygwin/x multi-window Message-ID: Over at http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/98e27a44c0dbfdcb# , I posted a note asking the Tcl community about a simple GUI application that was presenting a peculiar problem. The problem, basically, is that an X application, running remotely and displaying back to Cygwin/X, does not display the full text of a menu of items using my default cygwin configuration. During the response to my questions, both there on the group and in a private email exchange, I was told (and I confirmed) that if I run the application in Cygwin/X in full screen mode, the code performs as expected. Only when the code executes in -multiwindow mode does the unexpected behavior appear. While I am using an older version of the server, the thread mentioned above contains a reply from someone using version 1.7.6.0 (10706000) Build 2010-03-22 , which would seem to be pretty recent. I was wondering whether this behavior, where a widget only displays the first character of a menu item, is a known issue for -multiwindow? Is there some kind of work around for this problem? Thank you very much. -- Tcl - The glue of a new generation. ? http://wiki.tcl.tk/ Larry W. Virden http://www.xanga.com/lvirden/ Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From chaozhan@hotmail.com Wed Jun 9 05:10:00 2010 From: chaozhan@hotmail.com (Michael) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:10:00 -0000 Subject: frequently getting a =?utf-8?b?U1RBVFVTX0FDQ0VTU19WSU9MQVRJT04=?= exception under win7 References: Message-ID: Yuval Emek gmail.com> writes: > > A very annoying situation: I'm getting a STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > exception in about 2 out of 3 operations performed under cygwin/x. An > operation in this context can be starting an x application (e.g., > xterm) or running some command from within emacs (e.g., diff or > latex). > > In attempt to isolate the problem, I reinstalled cygwin from scratch > using the default settings of setup.exe + xorg-server, xinit, > xorg-docs, and X-start-menu-icons. > Next, I open a cygwin bash window and then invoke startxwin.exe . > The x-server is invoked but an xterm window does not open and the > following message appears: > > ***message begins*** > 4 [main] xterm 7156 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 1449 [main] xterm 7156 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s > tackdump > 4 [main] xterm 7996 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 1356 [main] xterm 7996 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s > tackdump > 4 [main] xterm 5268 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 647 [main] xterm 5268 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s > tackdump > 5 [main] xterm 4316 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 739 [main] xterm 4316 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s > tackdump > 2 [main] xterm 2752 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 1123 [main] xterm 2752 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s > tackdump > 5 [main] xterm 3220 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 1260 [main] xterm 3220 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s > tackdump > 6 [main] xterm 6752 fork: child -1 - died waiting for longjmp before initi > alization, retry 0, exit code 0x600, errno 11 > xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable > Reason: spawn: fork() failed > ***message ends*** > > The content of the resulting xterm.exe.stackdump file: > > ***content begins*** > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610202F7 > eax=00C500F8 ebx=612294A4 ecx=755F783F edx=002620F0 esi=00000000 edi=0022FA14 > ebp=61020A10 esp=0022C7E4 program=C:\cygwin\bin\xterm.exe, pid 3220, thread main > > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003B gs=0000 ss=0023 > Stack trace: > Frame Function Args > End of stack trace > ***content ends*** > > This phenomenon (or a similar one where I'm getting only 1 or two > lines of the exception and xterm does open) is very common: it happens > in about 2 out of 3 startxwin.exe invocation attempts. The same thing > happens when I'm trying to open a new xterm window from an existing > one. > > I'm using Windows 7 (32 bits). This is probably a relevant info as my > old laptop (with Windows XP) works fine (once again with a fresh > installation of cygwin + cygwin/x). > > I'm somewhat surprised that this problem was not reported before since > I know that my office mate suffers from it as well (she is also using > Windows 7 32 bits). > > I've already tried to discuss this problem in the cygwin mailing list > (see http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-04/msg00740.html) without a > positive resolution. Thinking about it some more, I now understand > that this problem occurs only under x, so I hope that this is the > right mailing list. > > Any suggestions? > > The output of cygcheck -s -v -r and the content of /var/log/XWin.0.log > are attached. > > Attachment (XWin.0.log): application/octet-stream, 4224 bytes > Attachment (xterm.exe.stackdump): application/octet-stream, 321 bytes > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ I got the same problem on windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with Cygwin 1.7.5 And it is no problem on windows XP with Cygwin 1.7.5 $ 2 [main] xterm 4552 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATIO N 1665 [main] xterm 4552 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s tackdump 2 [main] xterm 5260 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 1220 [main] xterm 5260 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s tackdump 2 [main] xterm 2324 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 1149 [main] xterm 2324 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s tackdump 2 [main] xterm 4196 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 1154 [main] xterm 4196 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s tackdump 2 [main] xterm 5112 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 1696 [main] xterm 5112 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s tackdump 2 [main] xterm 2484 exception::handle: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 1660 [main] xterm 2484 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to xterm.exe.s tackdump 2 [main] xterm 536 fork: child -1 - died waiting for longjmp before initia lization, retry 0, exit code 0x600, errno 11 xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable Reason: spawn: fork() failed Please provide solution if someone happened to know. Thanks, Michael -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Wed Jun 9 05:31:00 2010 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:31:00 -0000 Subject: frequently getting a STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION exception under win7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1276061456.7868.25.camel@YAAKOV04> On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 05:07 +0000, Michael wrote: > 2 [main] xterm 2484 exception::handle: Exception: > STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION > 1660 [main] xterm 2484 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to > xterm.exe.stackdump > 2 [main] xterm 536 fork: child -1 - died waiting for longjmp > before initialization, retry 0, exit code 0x600, errno 11 > xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable > Reason: spawn: fork() failed > > Please provide solution if someone happened to know. 1) BLODA 2) rebaseall Yaakov Cygwin/X -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mleal@comprafacil.pt Wed Jun 9 13:18:00 2010 From: mleal@comprafacil.pt (mleal@comprafacil.pt) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:18:00 -0000 Subject: Recebimentos dos seus Clientes Message-ID: Boa tarde. 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Desculpe o inc??modo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ichbinanon@gmail.com Wed Jun 9 14:48:00 2010 From: ichbinanon@gmail.com (Anonymous bin ich) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:48:00 -0000 Subject: Issues with Copy Paste In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How are you copying? Which application are you copying from? (Shell/vim etc...) On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Ajay Jain wrote: > Hi, > > The copy and paste from Xterm (using Cygwin) to my local machine is > playing a hide and seek. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it does > not. Can somebody please give me checklist on what to enable in > default so that copy paste works between xterms and any local windows > application. > > Many thanks in advance, > Ajay. > > -- > Unsubscribe info: ? ? ?http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: ? ? ? http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: ? ? ? ? http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > -- Regards, -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From marvin.mandel@oracle.com Wed Jun 9 17:14:00 2010 From: marvin.mandel@oracle.com (marvin.mandel@oracle.com) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:14:00 -0000 Subject: Fatal error Message-ID: <4C0FCBE7.8030307@oracle.com> I get the following fatal error with my windows xp machine. A fatal error has occurred and Cygwin/X will now exit. Please open /tmp/XWin.log for more information. Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin has started with the following command-line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error Regards, Marvin -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com Wed Jun 9 17:19:00 2010 From: reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin X)) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:19:00 -0000 Subject: Fatal error In-Reply-To: <4C0FCBE7.8030307@oracle.com> References: <4C0FCBE7.8030307@oracle.com> Message-ID: <4C0FCCE0.3020500@cygwin.com> On 6/9/2010 1:14 PM, marvin.mandel@oracle.com wrote: > I get the following fatal error with my windows xp machine. > > A fatal error has occurred and Cygwin/X will now exit. > Please open /tmp/XWin.log for more information. > > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.99.901-4 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Time to upgrade. Go to cygwin.com and click on "Install or update Cygwin now!" -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From chaozhan@hotmail.com Thu Jun 10 02:08:00 2010 From: chaozhan@hotmail.com (Michael) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:08:00 -0000 Subject: frequently getting a =?utf-8?b?U1RBVFVTX0FDQ0VTU19WSU9MQVRJT04=?= exception under win7 References: Message-ID: Hello, I got the same problem. My settings: Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 my_machine 1.7.5(0.225/5/3) 2010-04-12 19:07 i686 Cygwin And I use cygwin 1.7.5 on windows XP has NO problem at all. But after I completed June 09, 2010 windows updates for windows 7, this problem is gone. I am not sure if this is windows problem or cygwin/X problem. Any input are welcom! Michael -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From joseph_ess@yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 16:42:00 2010 From: joseph_ess@yahoo.com (Joseph Ess) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:42:00 -0000 Subject: Slow response to keypresses in xorg-server-1.8.0-1 Message-ID: <927363.30180.qm@web39605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On Sat, 01 May 2010 09:49:21, Ken Brown wrote: > I'm often seeing a very slow response to keypresses under > xorg-server-1.8.0-1. The problem is intermittent, but it always happens > within a few minutes after starting the server (via the start menu > shortcut or a slight variant). Here are some examples: I did an upgrade a few days ago and noticed the same thing. If I use another program for a few minutes then try to alt-tab or use the taskbar to go back to the xterm, the xterm will be unresponsive. The time the xterm is unresponsive appears to be related to the amount of time the xterm has not had focus. The longer the xterm is not used, the longer it takes to wake up. Right-clicking on the X icon in the system tray usually wakes the xterm back up. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com Thu Jun 10 17:24:00 2010 From: reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin X)) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: How to remotly launch application with SSH and Cygwin/X server In-Reply-To: <27722202.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <27720120.post@talk.nabble.com> <83E753BE7B6A324ABB336245BAF1DAAC0DFD227F@mailserver.metatv-ds.metatv.com> <27722202.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4C111F9A.3040703@cygwin.com> On 2/26/2010 2:07 PM, __Ricardo__ wrote: > X23G8c wrote: >> >>> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree- >>> owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of __Ricardo__ >>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:09 AM >> >>> didn't help too :( >>> I have Win XP SP2, under this system I had installed Cygwin 1.5 and >>> launch >>> GUI apps via ssh >>> worked. Now I have Win XP SP2 too, but current Cygwin version is 1.7.1 >>> - It >>> doesn't work. >> >> You are trying to launch the Windows screen apps as the user that owns >> the screen, correct? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike >> >> > > Yes. I'll try to explain better: I'm log on to windows as e.g. User1, that > is administrator user. When I start cygwin shell I can simply run: > $notepad > > I see Notepad application correct launched, but If I do it this way: > > $ssh User1@localhost > User1@localhost's password: > Last login: Fri Feb 26 18:00:01 2010 from localhost > > User1@athlon ~ > $ notepad > > I have notepad launched (I see it on process ) but it cannot draw correctly > himself on the screen. The same behaviour was in Cygwin 1.5, but then > sufficient thing to do was simply select SSHD service option: "Allow service > to interact with desktop", which was solve the problem. > > With Cygwins' 1.7 SSHD, selection this option does not take any effect, I > have still this unexpected to me behaviour. There are more authentication options in 1.7 which may help: However, I will say that you shouldn't get too used to this working, since MS removed the capability after XP. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From nathan.docwra@petrofac.com Thu Jun 10 22:32:00 2010 From: nathan.docwra@petrofac.com (MaverickUK82) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:32:00 -0000 Subject: Automatically starting CYGWIN with OpenSSH Message-ID: <28849448.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi guys, I'm new to CYGWIN and this forum. Sorry to ask questions immediatley after joining - but I'm at my wits end. I am currently running windows vista x64. I would like cygwin (well, OpenSSH really) to start up with my computer. So I can access the SSH server (remotely) without having to log into my vista PC and manually starting Cygwin and OpenSSH. I am thinking maybe via runservices registry key with a switch at the end to start OpenSSH. Although I am new to this and appreciate there maybe a better way. Hope someone can help! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Automatically-starting-CYGWIN-with-OpenSSH-tp28849448p28849448.html Sent from the cygwin-xfree mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From marco_atzeri@yahoo.it Fri Jun 11 04:52:00 2010 From: marco_atzeri@yahoo.it (Marco Atzeri) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: R: Automatically starting CYGWIN with OpenSSH In-Reply-To: <28849448.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <255548.27770.qm@web25503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --- Ven 11/6/10, MaverickUK82 ha scritto: > > Hi guys, > > I'm new to CYGWIN and this forum. This is not a forum, but a mailing list, and you are using the wrong one: cygwin-xfree is for X on cygwin you should use just "cygwin at cygwin dot com" for your problem. > > Sorry to ask questions immediatley after joining - but I'm > at my wits end. > > I am currently running windows vista x64. > > I would like cygwin (well, OpenSSH really) to start up with > my computer. So > I can access the SSH server (remotely) without having to > log into my vista > PC and manually starting Cygwin and OpenSSH. > > I am thinking maybe via runservices registry key with a > switch at the end to > start OpenSSH. Although I am new to this and appreciate > there maybe a better > way. > > Hope someone can help! > > /usr/bin/ssh-host-config will install ssh as service. Marco -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jeffrey.yusiewicz@railinc.com Fri Jun 11 19:30:00 2010 From: jeffrey.yusiewicz@railinc.com (Jeff) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:30:00 -0000 Subject: frequently getting a =?utf-8?b?U1RBVFVTX0FDQ0VTU19WSU9MQVRJT04=?= exception under win7 References: Message-ID: We are having the same issue using Cygwin 1.7.5 under Windows 7. I can not find an exact pattern but I'd estimate that the xterm windows works about 70% of the time. When we get the xterm STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION the xterm sometimes still comes up and other times no luck. When it dies completely it ends with; [main] xterm 3376 fork: child -1 - died waiting for longjmp before initialization, retry 0, exit code 0x100, errno 11 xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable Reason: spawn: fork() failed I'm still searching for a solution. If I see something, I'll post it. Jeff -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From hakobyan@ualberta.ca Sun Jun 13 19:19:00 2010 From: hakobyan@ualberta.ca (hakobyan@ualberta.ca) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:19:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin problem Message-ID: <20100613131945.18513rq61m1cobc4@webmail.ualberta.ca> Dear Madam/Sir, Could you help me to solve the following problem, please. Each time I run "startx", I get the following error message: A fatal error has occured and Cygwin/X will now exit, Please open /tmp/XWin.log for more information. Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command-line: X:0 -multiwindow-clipboard Sometimes, after getting this error message I get the xterm opened, but in most of the cases not. What would be your suggestion for solving the problem? Thanks, Rafael -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Mon Jun 14 01:40:00 2010 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:40:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin problem In-Reply-To: <20100613131945.18513rq61m1cobc4@webmail.ualberta.ca> References: <20100613131945.18513rq61m1cobc4@webmail.ualberta.ca> Message-ID: <1276479595.1036.13.camel@YAAKOV04> On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 13:19 -0600, hakobyan wrote: > Could you help me to solve the following problem, please. > Each time I run "startx", I get the following error message: > A fatal error has occured and Cygwin/X will now exit, > Please open /tmp/XWin.log for more information. > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.99.901-4 You are running an ancient version of Cygwin/X. Please read these, upgrade, and try again: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2008-11/msg00000.html http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2009-10/msg00010.html http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html Yaakov Cygwin/X -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From paddyhaig@yahoo.com Mon Jun 14 18:43:00 2010 From: paddyhaig@yahoo.com (Paddy) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:43:00 -0000 Subject: Where can I download??? Message-ID: <734307.95841.qm@web30606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Where can I download??? http://x.cygwin.com/ e.g. http://cygwin.com/setup.exe The links don't seem to work on your site! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From BBuchbinder@niaid.nih.gov Mon Jun 14 18:55:00 2010 From: BBuchbinder@niaid.nih.gov (Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:55:00 -0000 Subject: Where can I download??? In-Reply-To: <734307.95841.qm@web30606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <734307.95841.qm@web30606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0105D5C1E0353146B1B222348B0411A208EC3742D2@NIHMLBX02.nih.gov> Paddy sent the following at Monday, June 14, 2010 2:43 PM > >Where can I download??? http://x.cygwin.com/ e.g. >http://cygwin.com/setup.exe >The links don't seem to work on your site! ^ for me I just tested and they work for me. See the archives and documentation for things that you might check. Good luck. - Barry Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jbdean@gmail.com Mon Jun 14 19:37:00 2010 From: jbdean@gmail.com (J. Bruce Dean) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:37:00 -0000 Subject: empty x windows Message-ID: <4C168507.6010803@gmail.com> Hi, When running dual displays, using cygwin/x, the external monitor frames are 'invisible'. The window moves from the (laptop) display, working, on the external monitor they have a border, but the background is a snapshot of the app running on the external monitor. If I type, it works, but nothing displays. Moving the window moves the snapshot of the background. Moving back to the primary display I can see whatever I typed on the external monitor. Searching provided some things to try, such as the 'screens' and 'mulitplemonitors', neither worked. j -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From spirko@gmail.com Mon Jun 14 19:47:00 2010 From: spirko@gmail.com (Jeff Spirko) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:47:00 -0000 Subject: empty x windows In-Reply-To: <4C168507.6010803@gmail.com> References: <4C168507.6010803@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:37 PM, J. Bruce Dean wrote: > When running dual displays, using cygwin/x, the external monitor frames are 'invisible'. > The window moves from the (laptop) display, working, on the external monitor they > have a border, but the background is a snapshot of the app running on the external > monitor. If I type, it works, but nothing displays. Moving the window moves the > snapshot of the background. Moving back to the primary display I can see whatever > I typed on the external monitor. Searching provided some things to try, such as the > 'screens' and 'mulitplemonitors', neither worked. One important thing is to make sure the X server is started while the second monitor is active. I know that if I start XWin in single-monitor mode, then attach the second monitor, the X server needs to be restarted. Hope that helps, -Jeff -- Jeff Spirko ? spirko@gmail.com ? spirko@lehigh.edu ? WD3V ? |=> The study of non-linear physics is like the study of non-elephant biology. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Hiasi1@gmx.at Thu Jun 17 06:24:00 2010 From: Hiasi1@gmx.at (Mathias Friesenbichler) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:24:00 -0000 Subject: Problem when trying to use -nolock Option Message-ID: <20100617062403.194400@gmx.net> Hi, My CygwinX is installed on a server. Several users are accessing this installation and therefore i want to use the "-nolock" option. Although i have added this option, cygwinx creates the X1 File in "tmp/.X11-unix". So no other user can access cygwin while it is open. The logbook output is then: ---- Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 1.8.0.0 (10800000) Build Date: 2010-04-02 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/bin/Xwin :1 -ac -query 10.8.248.101 -clipboard -logfile C:\DOKUME~1\fltplehr\LOKALE~1\Temp\xwin.fltplehr.1.log -nolock -dpi 75 ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - primary monitor w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - native DPI x 96 y 96 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning [1061722.984] _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 [1061722.984] _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/pc08309:1 [1061722.984] _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6 [1061723.015] _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed [1061723.015] _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running [1061723.015] Fatal server error: [1061723.015] Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running ---- I am starting the program with the following code: start O:\PLS_Faser\Cygwin_PLSStarter\cygwin_installed\bin\Xwin.exe :1 -ac -query IP -clipboard -logfile "%TEMP%\xwin.%USERNAME%.1.log" -nolock -dpi 75 Can you help me? Thanks, Mathias -- GMX.at - ??sterreichs FreeMail-Dienst mit ??ber 2 Mio Mitgliedern E-Mail, SMS & mehr! Kostenlos: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atfreemail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From craigtmoore@googlemail.com Thu Jun 17 20:20:00 2010 From: craigtmoore@googlemail.com (Craig Moore) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: Can't "alt-tab" to Xterm window Message-ID: If I switch away from my xterm window (alt-tab), and then try to switch back, nothing happens. I have to right-click on the title of the window in the taskbar, which usually activates the window and brings it to the font. It happens pretty consistently so I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix this? Thanks, Craig -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From kbrown@cornell.edu Fri Jun 18 01:16:00 2010 From: kbrown@cornell.edu (Ken Brown) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:16:00 -0000 Subject: Can't "alt-tab" to Xterm window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C1AC8F2.4000401@cornell.edu> On 6/17/2010 4:20 PM, Craig Moore wrote: > If I switch away from my xterm window (alt-tab), and then try to > switch back, nothing happens. I have to right-click on the title of > the window in the taskbar, which usually activates the window and > brings it to the font. It happens pretty consistently so I was > wondering if anyone knew how to fix this? This has already been reported by many people. Until it gets fixed, you can work around it by reverting to xorg-server-1.7.6-2. Ken -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mparks1@comcast.net Fri Jun 18 19:36:00 2010 From: mparks1@comcast.net (Michael Parkinson) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:36:00 -0000 Subject: xterm gvim Windows 7 STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION Message-ID: <4C1BCAC0.7040706@comcast.net> The same kind of problem was reported earlier by Yuval Emek on May 3, 2010. I am having a number of STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION issues, although most of them are intermittent, which makes me think it is some kind of timing problem. I am running Cygwin 1.75 under Windows 7 Pro. I changed the ownership of the cygwin directory and its subdirectories except for $HOME to be Administators. I disabled the User Account Control so that there would not be dropped prompts for Administrative privileges. $HOME and its subdirectories are owned by me as the Windows login user. There are a number of scripts in my own sbin directory which spawn an X Windows with a command to be executed, usually a vim invocation; e.g., "xterm -e vim $@" (opens up vim for editing whatever files I specify in a new window). Under Windows XP, this never caused any problems. Under Windows 7, it often but not always gives the STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION error. When running vim in the newly spawned X window, I frequently use a command like "%!fmt" in order to format the file for easier reading. When running vim in the spawned X window, this command often gives a gvim.exe.stackdump with the same STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION, but I discovered by accident that if I use "xterm -e vim-nox $@" instead of "xterm -e vim $@", I do not get the gvim stackdumps when using fmt. There is a related issue. If I start a new X window using the shortcut in the Start Menu, it will occasionally fail to start. But if I hit the same shortcut a second time, it usually does open a new window. This is why I think there is some kind of time-out problem while it is waiting for a response from the X server. This will happen whether or not there are any other X windows open. Is there is a way to adjust the amount of time a request for a new X window will wait? At this point, these problems are more of a nuisance than something fatal, but I would love to get the Cygwin X window system to be more reliable under Windows 7. Any comments on what might help the situation will be welcome. Mike -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ryanjohn@ece.cmu.edu Fri Jun 18 19:42:00 2010 From: ryanjohn@ece.cmu.edu (Ryan Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:42:00 -0000 Subject: Can't "alt-tab" to Xterm window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C1BCC0C.6030300@ece.cmu.edu> On 8:59 PM, Craig Moore wrote: > If I switch away from my xterm window (alt-tab), and then try to > switch back, nothing happens. I have to right-click on the title of > the window in the taskbar, which usually activates the window and > brings it to the font. It happens pretty consistently so I was > wondering if anyone knew how to fix this? > This is a fairly well-known (but still undiagnosed?) bug in the 1.8 server. Workaround is to roll back to the previous 1.7 series. You can see a discussion about it in the list archives with the subject "Slow response to keypresses in xorg-server-1.8.0-1" Regards, Ryan -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Tue Jun 22 06:31:00 2010 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:31:00 -0000 Subject: Updated: GNOME 2.30.1 platform Message-ID: <1277187806.3904.29.camel@YAAKOV04> The GNOME platform libraries have been updated for GNOME 2.30.1, and the Python bindings have been rebuilt for Python 2.6. Besides the routine updates for each module, several GIRepository modules have been added (Atk1.0, GdkPixbuf2.0, Gtk2.0, Wnck1.0). Yaakov Cygwin/X CYGWIN-ANNOUNCE UNSUBSCRIBE INFO ================================ If you want to unsubscribe from the cygwin-announce mailing list, please use the automated form at: http://cygwin.com/lists.html#subscribe-unsubscribe If this does not work, then look at the "List-Unsubscribe: " tag in the email header of this message. Send email to the address specified there. 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Yaakov Cygwin/X CYGWIN-ANNOUNCE UNSUBSCRIBE INFO ================================ If you want to unsubscribe from the cygwin-announce mailing list, please use the automated form at: http://cygwin.com/lists.html#subscribe-unsubscribe If this does not work, then look at the "List-Unsubscribe: " tag in the email header of this message. Send email to the address specified there. It will be in the format: cygwin-announce-unsubscribe-you=yourdomain.com@cygwin.com If you need more information on unsubscribing, start reading here: http://sourceware.org/lists.html#unsubscribe-simple Please read *all* of the information on unsubscribing that is available starting at this URL. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From matias.364@gmail.com Tue Jun 22 13:11:00 2010 From: matias.364@gmail.com (matias kaukonen) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:11:00 -0000 Subject: changing font Message-ID: Hello, I'm new to cygwin/xfree and I'm trying to change my xterm font. What I did was, typed 'xlsfonts' at the command prompt. Then I selected a font name and added it to my .Xdefaults, for example 'XTerm*font: -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-*-180-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'. This produced the following message: xterm: unable to open font "*****", trying "fixed".... I repeat this procedure about 10 times and got the same message each time. Is this fixable? If so, what would you suggest? thx., matias -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_ayers@tva.tvworks.com Tue Jun 22 17:21:00 2010 From: mike_ayers@tva.tvworks.com (Mike Ayers) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:21:00 -0000 Subject: changing font In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83E753BE7B6A324ABB336245BAF1DAAC0EA7F96D@mailserver.metatv-ds.metatv.com> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree- > owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of matias kaukonen > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:06 AM > I'm new to cygwin/xfree and I'm trying to change my xterm font. What > I did was, typed 'xlsfonts' at > the command prompt. Then I selected a font name and added it to my > .Xdefaults, for example > 'XTerm*font: -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-*-180-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'. > This produced the following message: > xterm: unable to open font "*****", trying "fixed".... I repeat this > procedure about 10 times and > got the same message each time. Is this fixable? If so, what would > you suggest? The old trick is to spark up xfontsel, which can help you narrow down to the font you want. Then push the "select" button, which copies the (oft-mistyped) font spec onto the clipboard. Next, in an xterm, type "xterm -fn '", dump the clipboard, close the single quote and hit return to verify that the font is usable. If that works, then you get to double check your .XDefaults grammar. HTH, Mike P.S. I got my setup to use that massive font as a test, and I envy your monitor, weak soul that I am. From mutt@elannet.net Wed Jun 23 06:00:00 2010 From: mutt@elannet.net (Phipps upraise) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:00:00 -0000 Subject: residential mailing list Message-ID: <4a738c83-85e4-4d20-9c39-826dc049a127@mail.MPCDS.COM> Here's some of the healthcare lists we have: Hospitals - 23,747 Hospital Administrators in over 7,145 Hospitals (full contact info no emails) Nursing Homes - 31,589 Senior Administrators, 11,288 Nursing Directors in over 14,706 Nursing Homes (full contact info no emails) Visiting Nurses & RN's - 91,386 total records with 2,788 emails and 2,390 fax numbers Theres many more too, just send me an email here for additional info/samples: therightlist@gmx.com to adjust your subscription status email to rembot@gmx.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From hakobyan@ualberta.ca Fri Jun 25 03:58:00 2010 From: hakobyan@ualberta.ca (hakobyan@ualberta.ca) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:58:00 -0000 Subject: startx doesn't run proprely Message-ID: <20100624215837.20543ebn7ztsv4ow@webmail.ualberta.ca> Dear Cygwin helper, After the "startx" command it doesn't open X terminal. In fact, it sometimes open Xterm sometimes not, givin the following error message: Welcom to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X:0 -multiwindow -clipboard _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener:...SocketCreateListener<> failed _XSERVTransMakeAlloCOTSServerListeners: server already running Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress Please, tell me what to do to get rid of the problem? Thanks, -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com Fri Jun 25 04:13:00 2010 From: reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin X)) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:13:00 -0000 Subject: startx doesn't run proprely In-Reply-To: <20100624215837.20543ebn7ztsv4ow@webmail.ualberta.ca> References: <20100624215837.20543ebn7ztsv4ow@webmail.ualberta.ca> Message-ID: <4C242CEE.3070502@cygwin.com> On 6/24/2010 11:58 PM, hakobyan@ualberta.ca wrote: > Dear Cygwin helper, > > After the "startx" command it doesn't open X terminal. In fact, it > sometimes open Xterm sometimes not, givin the following error message: > > Welcom to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.99.901-4 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Please, tell me what to do to get rid of the problem? Try upgrading from this very old, monolithic X server to the current version. Don't forget to check the announcement for details and helpful hints about this upgrade. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Fri Jun 25 04:14:00 2010 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: startx doesn't run proprely In-Reply-To: <20100624215837.20543ebn7ztsv4ow@webmail.ualberta.ca> References: <20100624215837.20543ebn7ztsv4ow@webmail.ualberta.ca> Message-ID: <1277439291.7936.10.camel@YAAKOV04> On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 21:58 -0600, hakobyan@ualberta.ca wrote: > After the "startx" command it doesn't open X terminal. In fact, it > sometimes open Xterm sometimes not, givin the following error message: Please don't repost the same question, particularly when it was already answered: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2010-06/msg00021.html Yaakov -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ryanjohn@ece.cmu.edu Fri Jun 25 06:49:00 2010 From: ryanjohn@ece.cmu.edu (Ryan Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:49:00 -0000 Subject: startx doesn't run proprely In-Reply-To: <20100624215837.20543ebn7ztsv4ow@webmail.ualberta.ca> References: <20100624215837.20543ebn7ztsv4ow@webmail.ualberta.ca> Message-ID: <4C245175.9090300@ece.cmu.edu> On 8:59 PM, hakobyan@ualberta.ca wrote: > Dear Cygwin helper, > > After the "startx" command it doesn't open X terminal. In fact, it > sometimes open Xterm sometimes not, givin the following error message: > > _XSERVTransMakeAlloCOTSServerListeners: server already running > > Please, tell me what to do to get rid of the problem? The above looks like a likely culprit. Make sure the last instance is really gone before starting a new one. Closing xterm doesn't shut down the server, and if you just want a new xterm use the Cygwin-X shortcuts or right click the 'X' in the system tray and find it in the 'Applications' list of the menu that pops up. Good luck, Ryan -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ilias@fpv.umb.sk Fri Jun 25 08:23:00 2010 From: ilias@fpv.umb.sk (Miroslav =?iso-8859-2?b?SWxpYbk=?=) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:23:00 -0000 Subject: fatal error Message-ID: <20100625091222.10925o6f01fj6fhy@www.fpv.umb.sk> /var/log/XWin.0.log attached -- RNDr. Miroslav Ilia?, PhD. Katedra ch?mie Fakulta pr?rodn?ch vied Univerzita Mateja Bela Tajovsk?ho 40 97400 Bansk? Bystrica tel: +421 48 446 7351 email : ilias@fpv.umb.sk Department of Chemistry Faculty of Natural Sciences Matej Bel University Tajovsk?ho 40 97400 Banska Bystrica Slovakia tel: +421 48 446 7351 email : ilias@fpv.umb.sk ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -------------- next part -------------- Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 1.8.0.0 (10800000) Build Date: 2010-04-02 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - primary monitor w 1366 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - native DPI x 96 y 96 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning [ 2935.923] winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 [ 2935.923] (II) xorg.conf is not supported [ 2935.923] (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information [ 2935.923] LoadPreferences: /home/dv6-2145ec/.XWinrc not found [ 2935.923] LoadPreferences: Loading /etc/X11/system.XWinrc [ 2935.923] LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... [ 2935.923] winGetDisplay: DISPLAY=:0.0 [ 2935.923] winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP [ 2935.954] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed [ 2935.954] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed [ 2935.954] winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 [ 2935.954] winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI [ 2935.954] winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel [ 2935.970] winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1366 height: 768 depth: 32 [ 2935.970] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff [ 2935.970] winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 [ 2935.970] null screen fn ReparentWindow [ 2935.970] null screen fn RestackWindow [ 2935.970] InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init [ 2935.970] InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned [ 2935.970] InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init [ 2935.970] InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned [ 2935.970] winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello [ 2935.970] winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () [ 2935.970] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello [ 2935.970] Screen 0 added at virtual desktop coordinate (0,0). [ 2935.970] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () [ 2935.985] MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support [ 2935.985] XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel [ 2936.126] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so [ 2936.126] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 [ 2936.391] (EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp [ 2936.391] (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap [ 2936.391] XKB: Failed to compile keymap [ 2936.391] Keyboard initialization failed. This could be a missing or incorrect setup of xkeyboard-config. [ 2936.391] Fatal server error: [ 2936.391] Failed to activate core devices. -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From matias.364@gmail.com Sun Jun 27 01:03:00 2010 From: matias.364@gmail.com (matias kaukonen) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 01:03:00 -0000 Subject: changing font Message-ID: xfontsel seems to work (to change the font). Thanks. A related question is, given an xterm, how can I find out what the current font in use is? matias -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dickey@his.com Sun Jun 27 01:21:00 2010 From: dickey@his.com (Thomas Dickey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 01:21:00 -0000 Subject: changing font In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100626211845.C34426@mail101.his.com> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010, matias kaukonen wrote: > xfontsel seems to work (to change the font). Thanks. > A related question is, given an xterm, how can I find > out what the current font in use is? there's an escape sequence... and a demo in current xterm sources (a script named query-fonts.pl). vttest also has a test-screen. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jquinsey@entrenet.com Sun Jun 27 15:23:00 2010 From: jquinsey@entrenet.com (Joseph Quinsey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:23:00 -0000 Subject: xterm faceSize and -fs in version 260 Message-ID: The xterm faceSize resource and the -fs command line option do not seem to work with xterm version 260. Installing the previous Cygwin version, 255, fixes this. --- Joseph Quinsey -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dickey@his.com Sun Jun 27 15:25:00 2010 From: dickey@his.com (Thomas Dickey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:25:00 -0000 Subject: xterm faceSize and -fs in version 260 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100627112355.R59981@mail101.his.com> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, Joseph Quinsey wrote: > The xterm faceSize resource and the -fs command line option do not seem to > work with xterm version 260. Installing the previous Cygwin version, 255, > fixes this. hmm - I changed the handling of the renderFont resource, but didn't notice breakage of the other resources (perhaps the output of "appres XTerm" would show me the problem) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jquinsey@entrenet.com Sun Jun 27 16:16:00 2010 From: jquinsey@entrenet.com (Joseph Quinsey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:16:00 -0000 Subject: xterm faceSize and -fs in version 260 Message-ID: <185DF3B538D3411F9545A641BCD05411@LeakyCauldron> Attached are the results of appres XTerm and xterm. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: appres_XTerm2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5609 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This works for 260. --- Joseph Quinsey -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dickey@his.com Sun Jun 27 19:11:00 2010 From: dickey@his.com (Thomas Dickey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:11:00 -0000 Subject: xterm faceSize and -fs in version 260 In-Reply-To: <99FAB2B7E8444A33B9B6988359AF94E1@LeakyCauldron> References: <8E185C69E6B54D54B4311F83368B112F@LeakyCauldron> <20100627124208.M53740@mail101.his.com> <99FAB2B7E8444A33B9B6988359AF94E1@LeakyCauldron> Message-ID: <20100627150946.A53740@mail101.his.com> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, Joseph Quinsey wrote: > Thomas Dickey replied: > >>> And I realize -fa also doesn't seem to work for me for 260. >> >> thanks - it's some error in the way I added the logic for the renderFont >> resource. You should be able to work around by adding >> >> *renderFont:true >> >> to your X resource settings. > > Thank you. This works for 260. no problem (will fix "soon") -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_bradley@mentor.com Tue Jun 29 14:50:00 2010 From: mike_bradley@mentor.com (Bradley, Mike) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:50:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> From: Bradley, Mike Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:47 AM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Hi, All was good, till a couple weeks ago when I added some packages to cygwin, and several packages where also upgraded.? Then xterm response time became very slow.? I tried a second upgrade yesterday, and now I cannot even start an xterm, nor will startxwin start properly.? This is a company computer which has Symantec anti-virus.? I tried disabling that as well. Here is the most obvious symptom: % echo $DISPLAY 127.0.0.1:0.0 % /usr/bin/startxwin.exe waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. /usr/bin/startxwin:? Socket type not supported (errno 124):? unable to connect to X server /usr/bin/startxwin:? No such process (errno 3):? Server error. Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in XWin.0.log (it has :0.0).? No idea how/why that happens.? Thanks, -Mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XWin.0.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4878 bytes Desc: XWin.0.log URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But then, I'm not sure if it has something to do with your problems, as 127.0.0.1:0.0 points to the first display on localhost, which IMHO isn't all that wrong. What happens if you set $DISPLAY manually, e.g. to ":0.0". This always worked fine for me. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_bradley@mentor.com Tue Jun 29 15:23:00 2010 From: mike_bradley@mentor.com (Bradley, Mike) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:23:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <20100629165524.15672wegwhs4n144@webmail.df.eu> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <20100629165524.15672wegwhs4n144@webmail.df.eu> Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617CE@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> I don't see any difference if I set DISPLAY to :0.0 or 127.0.0.1:0.0. However, in the past its only worked if I set to 127.0.0.1:0.0 -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Markus Hoenicka Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:55 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly "Bradley, Mike" was heard to say: > Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in > XWin.0.log (it has :0.0).? No idea how/why that happens.? > $DISPLAY is empty over here unless I manually set it. But then, I'm not sure if it has something to do with your problems, as 127.0.0.1:0.0 points to the first display on localhost, which IMHO isn't all that wrong. What happens if you set $DISPLAY manually, e.g. to ":0.0". This always worked fine for me. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de Tue Jun 29 15:44:00 2010 From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de (Markus Hoenicka) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:44:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617CE@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <20100629165524.15672wegwhs4n144@webmail.df.eu> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617CE@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <20100629174445.13044vug4b6qatc0@webmail.df.eu> "Bradley, Mike" was heard to say: > I don't see any difference if I set DISPLAY to :0.0 or > 127.0.0.1:0.0. However, in the past its only worked if I set to > 127.0.0.1:0.0 > My current procedure to start X is as follows: 1. do not set $DISPLAY anywhere. It is just empty. 2. open MinTTY 3. type something like "startxwin /usr/bin/emacs" That's about it. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_bradley@mentor.com Tue Jun 29 15:48:00 2010 From: mike_bradley@mentor.com (Bradley, Mike) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:48:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <20100629174445.13044vug4b6qatc0@webmail.df.eu> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <20100629165524.15672wegwhs4n144@webmail.df.eu> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617CE@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <20100629174445.13044vug4b6qatc0@webmail.df.eu> Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617D9@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> I just tried your procedure, but still get the same error messages from startxwin. Maybe there is some helpful information in the logfiles I sent? -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Markus Hoenicka Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:45 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly "Bradley, Mike" was heard to say: > I don't see any difference if I set DISPLAY to :0.0 or > 127.0.0.1:0.0. However, in the past its only worked if I set to > 127.0.0.1:0.0 > My current procedure to start X is as follows: 1. do not set $DISPLAY anywhere. It is just empty. 2. open MinTTY 3. type something like "startxwin /usr/bin/emacs" That's about it. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Hiasi1@gmx.at Tue Jun 29 16:13:00 2010 From: Hiasi1@gmx.at (Mathias Friesenbichler) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:13:00 -0000 Subject: Problem when trying to use -nolock Option Message-ID: <20100629161332.193930@gmx.net> Hi, I posted this Problem 2 Weeks ago and no one answered yet. Is there anyone who can help me? Thanks, Mathias -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:24:03 +0200 Von: "Mathias Friesenbichler" An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Betreff: Problem when trying to use -nolock Option Hi, My CygwinX is installed on a server. Several users are accessing this installation and therefore i want to use the "-nolock" option. Although i have added this option, cygwinx creates the X1 File in "tmp/.X11-unix". So no other user can access cygwin while it is open. The logbook output is then: ---- Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 1.8.0.0 (10800000) Build Date: 2010-04-02 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/bin/Xwin :1 -ac -query 10.8.248.101 -clipboard -logfile C:\DOKUME~1\fltplehr\LOKALE~1\Temp\xwin.fltplehr.1.log -nolock -dpi 75 ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - primary monitor w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - native DPI x 96 y 96 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning [1061722.984] _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 [1061722.984] _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/pc08309:1 [1061722.984] _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6 [1061723.015] _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed [1061723.015] _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running [1061723.015] Fatal server error: [1061723.015] Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running ---- I am starting the program with the following code: start O:\PLS_Faser\Cygwin_PLSStarter\cygwin_installed\bin\Xwin.exe :1 -ac -query IP -clipboard -logfile "%TEMP%\xwin.%USERNAME%.1.log" -nolock -dpi 75 Can you help me? Thanks, Mathias -- GMX.at - ??sterreichs FreeMail-Dienst mit ??ber 2 Mio Mitgliedern E-Mail, SMS & mehr! Kostenlos: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atfreemail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From daasch@ece.pdx.edu Tue Jun 29 20:40:00 2010 From: daasch@ece.pdx.edu (Robert Daasch) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:40:00 -0000 Subject: Slow response to keypresses in xorg-server-1.8.0-1 Message-ID: <4C2A59FC.5010104@ece.pdx.edu> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:52:28 -0700 > I have this problem too. I found a weird, non-code partial solution: > run some sort of constantly-updating graphical program in the > background, like ico or something like that. This workaround is apparently avoiding the X 1.8.0 response problem. I am running xeyes and the slow response problem is no longer getting in the way of using X on a Dell E6410. I am using Version 1.8.0 with a build date of 2010-04-02 . -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com Tue Jun 29 22:39:00 2010 From: reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin X)) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:39:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> On 6/29/2010 10:50 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: > Hi, > > All was good, till a couple weeks ago when I added some packages to cygwin, > and several packages where also upgraded. Then xterm response time became > very slow. I tried a second upgrade yesterday, and now I cannot even start > an xterm, nor will startxwin start properly. This is a company computer > which has Symantec anti-virus. I tried disabling that as well. > > Here is the most obvious symptom: > > % echo $DISPLAY 127.0.0.1:0.0 % /usr/bin/startxwin.exe > > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. > /usr/bin/startxwin: Socket type not supported (errno 124): unable to > connect to X server /usr/bin/startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server > error. > > Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in XWin.0.log > (it has :0.0). No idea how/why that happens. Remove the DISPLAY setting. Update your installation (your cygwin package is out-of-date). You also have a couple of orphaned installations of Cygwin. Make sure those are all cleaned up/out. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_bradley@mentor.com Tue Jun 29 22:56:00 2010 From: mike_bradley@mentor.com (Bradley, Mike) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:56:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Hi, In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages where installed (e.g. non-default packages). Is there a file/way to run setup.exe so that a specified set of packages are installed? I say this, because the only way I know to clean up the install is to delete it, and re-install. (I have several times just run setup.exe, and it does seem to update some packages, but as you state, it is not completely clean) Thanks, -Mike -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X) Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:40 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly On 6/29/2010 10:50 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: > Hi, > > All was good, till a couple weeks ago when I added some packages to cygwin, > and several packages where also upgraded. Then xterm response time became > very slow. I tried a second upgrade yesterday, and now I cannot even start > an xterm, nor will startxwin start properly. This is a company computer > which has Symantec anti-virus. I tried disabling that as well. > > Here is the most obvious symptom: > > % echo $DISPLAY 127.0.0.1:0.0 % /usr/bin/startxwin.exe > > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. > /usr/bin/startxwin: Socket type not supported (errno 124): unable to > connect to X server /usr/bin/startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server > error. > > Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in XWin.0.log > (it has :0.0). No idea how/why that happens. Remove the DISPLAY setting. Update your installation (your cygwin package is out-of-date). You also have a couple of orphaned installations of Cygwin. Make sure those are all cleaned up/out. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 00:13:00 2010 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:13:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <20100630001350.GA1892@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:56:03PM -0600, Bradley, Mike wrote: >In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages >where installed (e.g. non-default packages). Is there a file/way to >run setup.exe so that a specified set of packages are installed? Every time you select a new package to install, it is added to the remembered list of packages on your system. So, the next time you run setup.exe it will update anything that is out of date automatically. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 01:49:00 2010 From: reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin X)) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:49:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> On 6/29/2010 6:56 PM, Bradley, Mike wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@...] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X) >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:40 PM >> To: cygwin-xfree@... >> Subject: Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Also, there's nothing to be gained (and plenty to be lost) by including unneeded headers in your reply. Please consider removing them in future correspondences with the list. >> Remove the DISPLAY setting. Update your installation (your cygwin package >> is out-of-date). You also have a couple of orphaned installations of >> Cygwin. Make sure those are all cleaned up/out. >> > Hi, > > In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages where > installed (e.g. non-default packages). Is there a file/way to run setup.exe > so that a specified set of packages are installed? Not surprisingly, Chris got this right on the nose. It would be ludicrous for me to embellish. :-) > (I have several times just run setup.exe, and it does seem to update some > packages, but as you state, it is not completely clean) Actually, that's not what I meant at all. Your cygcheck output showed that you had, at one time, installed Cygwin to C:\cygwin and C:\cygwin\cygdrive, both of which are now "ORPHANED", meaning that at least some (could be all) of the installation is now missing. You should make sure that the entire installation has been deleted in both places. Once that is true, you should run 'cygcheck --delete-orphaned-installation-keys' so that cygcheck will not report those directories anymore. This is something completely different from 'setup.exe' and its installation process. 'setup.exe' knows what it has installed and where and will maintain those packages (updating them as required and requested) whenever you run it. It cannot, however, maintain an installation if it has been removed or manipulated by other tools, which is what seems to have happened to your two orphaned installations. So you need to finish cleaning these up as I described above. It may simply be a bookkeeping exercise or it might be more than that. But it's worth checking out. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_bradley@mentor.com Wed Jun 30 05:07:00 2010 From: mike_bradley@mentor.com (Bradley, Mike) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 05:07:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> > In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages where > installed (e.g. non-default packages). Is there a file/way to run setup.exe > so that a specified set of packages are installed? OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains /usr, /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the "cygwin_package" directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation. In the past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, rather than having to recall them all. > Actually, that's not what I meant at all. Your cygcheck output showed that > you had, at one time, installed Cygwin to C:\cygwin and C:\cygwin\cygdrive, > both of which are now "ORPHANED", meaning that at least some (could be all) > of the installation is now missing. You should make sure that the entire > installation has been deleted in both places. > ... I did remove the orphaned directires, but it did not help. The good news is a complete re-install of cygwin does work, so I am (almost) up and running :-) Thanks, -Mike From reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 05:19:00 2010 From: reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin X)) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 05:19:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: > OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains/usr, > /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the "cygwin_package" > directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation. In the > past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice > to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, > rather than having to recall them all. 'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you have removed. There'd be little call for that kind of functionality. 'setup.exe' does allow you to install from a local directory though. So if you keep the directory that contained all the packages you've downloaded previously, you can point 'setup.exe' at this directory and tell it to install everything. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Brian.Timares@va.gov Wed Jun 30 14:02:00 2010 From: Brian.Timares@va.gov (Timares, Brian (Harris)) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:02:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> Message-ID: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote: >On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: >> OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains/usr, >> /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the "cygwin_package" >> directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation. In the >> past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice >> to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, >> rather than having to recall them all. > >'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you have >removed. There'd be little call for that kind of functionality. 'setup.exe' I disagree. I've had to reinstall cygwin from scratch several times, and also have different coworkers who can benefit from cygwin, but saying "Go through the long list of groupings, including the even longer sublist of packages, ignoring lib*" is not very helpful. Most of my coworkers are not sysadmins or Unix gurus so they look at a lot of packages and say "I'll just use puTTY". And it takes a lot of time. But no one wants EVERYTHING, a lot of it is not useful to us. It would be great to be able to have a file I can email them saying "Use this, it'll load everything you need.". And of course have a copy for myself for when I get a new machine, or the OS has to be reloaded, or I have cygwin problems (perhaps related to the anti-virus, but still). Such a thing would be great for anyone who wants to test the bleeding edge. If they knew rolling back was simple they'd be encouraged to be daring. >does allow you to install from a local directory though. So if you keep >the directory that contained all the packages you've downloaded previously, >you can point 'setup.exe' at this directory and tell it to install everything. This will help me in some cases, though it won't for my coworkers (none of whom are local to my area). If I renamed the local directory from, say "http%3a%2f%2fmirror.mcs.anl.gov%2fcygwin%2f" to say "http%3a%2f%2fmirror.cs.vt.edu%2fcygwin%2f, will that work? Brian Timares From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 14:10:00 2010 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:10:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <20100630141036.GA20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:07:44PM -0600, Bradley, Mike wrote: > >> In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages where >> installed (e.g. non-default packages). Is there a file/way to run setup.exe >> so that a specified set of packages are installed? > >OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains >/usr, /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the >"cygwin_package" directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous >installation. In the past I have had to install cygwin on multiple >machines, and it would be nice to learn a way to have a file which >describes the packages I want to install, rather than having to recall >them all. So, after being told that Cygwin remembers your previous installation and to just run setup.exe, you removed your previous installation and are surprised that Cygwin doesn't remember it. Here's some more advice for you to misunderstand/ignore: Don't do that. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_bradley@mentor.com Wed Jun 30 14:12:00 2010 From: mike_bradley@mentor.com (Bradley, Mike) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:12:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361891@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> > It would be great to be able to have a file I can email them saying "Use this, it'll load everything you need.". And of > course have a copy for myself for when I get a new machine, or the OS has to be reloaded, or I have cygwin problems > > Such a thing would be great for anyone who wants to test the bleeding edge. If they knew rolling back was simple they'd be > encouraged to be daring. Absolutely! And I suspect a relatively easy modification/addition for setup.exe. It already has the concept of what's loaded, it's just a matter of storing this off into a single file that is read on subsequent runs of setup.exe. Then when the new install is complete the file is written to. In practice setup.exe would ask if you want to use the default configuration file, or load a separate one. The default Would always be written to. After install the user would then copy and store the default configuration file as a separate one for subsequent use. -Mike From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 14:15:00 2010 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote: >Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote: >>On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: >>> OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains/usr, >>> /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the "cygwin_package" >>> directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation. In the >>> past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice >>> to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, >>> rather than having to recall them all. >> >>'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you have >>removed. There'd be little call for that kind of functionality. 'setup.exe' > >I disagree. I've had to reinstall cygwin from scratch several times, >and also have different coworkers who can benefit from cygwin, but >saying "Go through the long list of groupings, including the even >longer sublist of packages, ignoring lib*" is not very helpful. Most >of my coworkers are not sysadmins or Unix gurus so they look at a lot >of packages and say "I'll just use puTTY". And it takes a lot of time. >But no one wants EVERYTHING, a lot of it is not useful to us. You misunderstand what Larry is saying. He is referring to wiping out your installation and then expecting Cygwin to magically remember what you used to have. You are talking about having a fixed set of packages to install and apparently expect that you will be able to use software without actually investigating how to use it. If you read the documentation on setup.exe you'll find how to specify the packages you want on the command line. If you make a .bat file available with the right packages then all of the poor non-UNIX-gurus who can't figure out how to pick "openssh" from a list will be able to just run "pleasedoitforme.bat" . OTOH, why not use putty if you don't know linux? cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From n8tm@aol.com Wed Jun 30 14:20:00 2010 From: n8tm@aol.com (Tim Prince) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:20:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <4C2B529E.8050803@aol.com> On 6/30/2010 10:15 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > OTOH, why not use putty if you don't know linux? > > You haven't been mean enough. ssh is easier to use than putty, regardless of knowledge of linux. -- Tim Prince -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From mike_bradley@mentor.com Wed Jun 30 14:36:00 2010 From: mike_bradley@mentor.com (Bradley, Mike) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:36:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <20100630141036.GA20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <20100630141036.GA20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361899@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> > So, after being told that Cygwin remembers your previous installation > and to just run setup.exe, you removed your previous installation and > are surprised that Cygwin doesn't remember it. What I did was re-run setup.exe. XWin would still not startup. Then I Deleted the cygwin install (except for the package directory). Setup.exe Did not recall/remember/read the package directory, it did a default install. The good news is XWin works now. The bad news is I must remember/find/set the Various packages I need in addition to the default. I'm confused as to why the notion of setup.exe to leave a bread-crumb-trail of what was installed for-the-purpose-of driving a subsequent installation is such a controversial issue.... > Here's some more advice for you to misunderstand/ignore: Don't do that. Uh, I think we have a simple misunderstanding... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 14:43:00 2010 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361899@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <20100630141036.GA20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361899@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <20100630144351.GC20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 08:36:05AM -0600, Bradley, Mike wrote: >cgf wrote: >>So, after being told that Cygwin remembers your previous installation >>and to just run setup.exe, you removed your previous installation and >>are surprised that Cygwin doesn't remember it. > >What I did was re-run setup.exe. XWin would still not startup. Then I >Deleted the cygwin install (except for the package directory). >Setup.exe Did not recall/remember/read the package directory, it did a >default install. I guess what you're not getting is that the list of installed packages is located within the cygwin installation itself. If you wipe out then setup.exe won't know what's installed. >The good news is XWin works now. The bad news is I must >remember/find/set the >Various packages I need in addition to the default. > >I'm confused as to why the notion of setup.exe to leave a >bread-crumb-trail of what was installed for-the-purpose-of driving a >subsequent installation is such a controversial issue.... It's not controversial since setup.exe already does that. You just chose to wipe out the record of what's installed. If you wanted to just reinstall X you could have just chosen "Reinstall" and not gone through the pain of wiping out everything. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Brian.Timares@va.gov Wed Jun 30 15:23:00 2010 From: Brian.Timares@va.gov (Timares, Brian (Harris)) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:23:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> cgf, I'll start off by saying I sense an attitude of "only gurus need apply and gurus don't need help" from you. To me that's very OpenBSD, but not very Cygwin. If I sense incorrectly, I suggest what you are writing leads me to feel that way. If that's correct, I suggest we'll never come to an agreement and we may as well drop the subject. Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote: >>Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote: >>>On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: >>>> OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains/usr, >>>> /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the "cygwin_package" >>>> directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation. In the >>>> past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice >>>> to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, >>>> rather than having to recall them all. >>> >>>'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you have >>>removed. There'd be little call for that kind of functionality. 'setup.exe' >> >>I disagree. I've had to reinstall cygwin from scratch several times, >>and also have different coworkers who can benefit from cygwin, but >>saying "Go through the long list of groupings, including the even >>longer sublist of packages, ignoring lib*" is not very helpful. Most >>of my coworkers are not sysadmins or Unix gurus so they look at a lot >>of packages and say "I'll just use puTTY". And it takes a lot of time. >>But no one wants EVERYTHING, a lot of it is not useful to us. > >You misunderstand what Larry is saying. Actually no, I don't. Although I will admit as I get older I do miss more and more and it is frustrating! >He is referring to wiping out your installation and then expecting >Cygwin to magically remember what you used to have. Hmm, I don't recall magic being mentioned. I know I have had to wipe out the installation (new laptop, troubles with PC, troubles with Cygwin where one wants a clean install), or find that my chosen install site has dropped off the list, or found that some other site has more up-to-date updates [that matter to me]. And I've wished everytime, from the first reinstallation to the most recent, that I didn't have to go through the list, picking what I know is useful and leaving out what my I don't want or my constraints don't allow. >You are talking about having a fixed set of packages to install and >apparently expect that you will be able to use software without actually >investigating how to use it. If you read the documentation on setup.exe Yes, then no. How long has it been since you've gone through the full list of packages that Cygwin offers? There are 29 catagories and I am NOT counting what is underneath them. Yes, I feel that my coworkers should be able to use, say, X Windows programs, without understanding unix. Or if they do know unix, they should be able to expect that, say, bc is there w/o having to look for it. However this discussion more properly belongs on a more general Cygwin list. I'll see if it makes sense to post a suggestion there. >you'll find how to specify the packages you want on the command line. >If you make a .bat file available with the right packages then all of >the poor non-UNIX-gurus who can't figure out how to pick "openssh" from >a list will be able to just run "pleasedoitforme.bat" . How many packages are we talking about here? Wait, you don't know. So I'll just reject your suggestion as inappropriate for my situation, although I think for some people it is a pretty good work-around. What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable. We want to be able to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up! It is largely irrelevant.). It seems simple--at some point the Setup program knows what was selected. It just needs to save it out and be able to read it back in. Brian Timares -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Brian.Timares@va.gov Wed Jun 30 15:52:00 2010 From: Brian.Timares@va.gov (Timares, Brian (Harris)) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:52:00 -0000 Subject: Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly) In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373B06B@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Brian Timares (me! self-replying) wrote: >However this discussion more properly belongs on a more general Cygwin >list. I'll see if it makes sense to post a suggestion there. I found something where cgf says the big reason remembered installs aren't done are because it takes someone with the time and skills to do it (SHTDI). I found this which kinda does what I want. It is still more trouble than I want, but less than giving someone a list of n packages that I've found useful and expecting them to go through the list. Mike, that might be worth a try, though I don't know if it would still work. On considering the later link I realize that it might not be 100% as simple as just saving out a list, unless installing package X automatically and at that point did dependency resolution. I find discussions of this going back to 2002, but the search for the main mail list timed out on me. Anyway, I have to get back to work so I'll try to post to the main list after work. Brian Timares -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ryanjohn@ece.cmu.edu Wed Jun 30 16:12:00 2010 From: ryanjohn@ece.cmu.edu (Ryan Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:12:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> References: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <4C2B6CC5.1040603@ece.cmu.edu> > > What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable. We want to be able > to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our > point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that > work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up! > It is largely irrelevant.). It seems simple--at some point the Setup > program knows what was selected. It just needs to save it out and be > able to read it back in. > vote +1 I've also had this need many times. Most recently, the update to the latest cygwin dll, which the instructions specifically said should be a clean install rather than an in-place upgrade. Migration wizard would have been nice... Ryan -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dfelicia@donsbox.com Wed Jun 30 17:14:00 2010 From: dfelicia@donsbox.com (webmaster) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:14:00 -0000 Subject: XTerm scrollbar issue Message-ID: All releases of xterm newer that 229 (i.e. since June '08) have a broken scrollbar. It never bothered me enough to post a message, but I've been setting up some new systems and have found it annoying to dig up xterm-229 and manually install it. These images show what the scrollbar used to look like (and what it still looks like in all recent Linux distributions, even with latest xterm builds): http://www.donsbox.com/~dfelicia/cygwin-xterm/xterm-229-1.jpg http://www.donsbox.com/~dfelicia/cygwin-xterm/xterm-229-2.jpg The 1st one shows the gray scrollbar "shrinking" as the history buffer gets filled. The 2nd shows the gray scrollbar moving with a middle-button click-n-drag upwards to view history. These images show what the scrollbar looks like, now, in version 260 (and all versions in between 229 and 260): http://www.donsbox.com/~dfelicia/cygwin-xterm/xterm-260-1.jpg http://www.donsbox.com/~dfelicia/cygwin-xterm/xterm-260-2.jpg The 1st one shows the gray scrollbar as a constant tiny rectangle always at the top, regardless of how many lines of history there are. The 2nd one shows what happens when you do a middle-button click-n-drag. Seemingly a minor nit, especially since we live in an age of wheel mice, but annoying for those of us accustomed to scrolling the old fashioned way. BTW, here's my ~/.Xdefaults, though even without it the behavior is the same: ! Font XTerm*VT100*font: -xos4-terminus-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ! These affect apps like man XTerm*VT100*highlightSelection: true XTerm*VT100*highlightColorMode: true XTerm*VT100*colorBDMode: on XTerm*VT100*colorBD: green XTerm*VT100*colorULMode: on XTerm*VT100*underLine: on XTerm*VT100*colorUL: yellow ! Pretty colors. XTerm*VT100*dynamicColors: on XTerm*VT100*foreground: white XTerm*VT100*background: black XTerm*VT100*cursorColor: white XTerm*VT100*highlightColor: orange ! I need to scroll XTerm*VT100*scrollBar: true XTerm*VT100*saveLines: 2000 XTerm*VT100*scrollTtyOutput: false XTerm*VT100*scrollKey: true XTerm*VT100*JumpScroll: true ! Run login scripts XTerm*VT100*loginShell: true ! Make use of that big monitor XTerm*VT100*geometry: 110x25 ! Allow backspace to work on wrapped lines XTerm*VT100*reverseWrap: true ! I hate beeping XTerm*VT100*visualBell: true ! This resource specifies whether or not to ignore the alternate screen ! of applications such as vi. When it is on, these applications will restore ! the contents of the screen when they are exited to what they were before ! they were started. When it is off, the contents of vi will remain on the ! screen after the program is quit. XTerm*VT100*titeInhibit: true ! New cygwin xterm includes a toolBar by default. Disable it. XTerm*toolBar: false -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 17:35:00 2010 From: reply-to-list-only-lh-x@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin X)) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:35:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <4C2B8065.5090600@cygwin.com> On 6/30/2010 11:22 AM, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote: > What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable. We want to be able > to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our > point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that > work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up! > It is largely irrelevant.). It seems simple--at some point the Setup > program knows what was selected. It just needs to save it out and be > able to read it back in. As you mentioned in your follow-up, if what's already supported in 'setup.exe' doesn't meet your needs, you're welcome to modify it. There are several ways to grab a list of installed packages, as has been discussed already (assuming an installation exists at the time you're doing the grabbing). If you want to the dead-simple approach, then you need to use 'setup.exe' to manage and maintain your local installation. If you need to duplicate that installation elsewhere, you use the same installation directory and point 'setup.exe' to it instead of mirrors. Or you set up your own local mirror that you maintain with the packages and versions you want and point 'setup.exe' at that mirror only. Or you grab the output of 'cygcheck -cd' \ (or /etc/setup/installed.db directly) and gently message it to create script with calls 'setup.exe' with the list of packages you'd like from a mirror. Given all the existing options, it's worth your while to take a good look at them all and figure out what they give you and what they don't when matching them against what you need/want. You may find that the solution you want is simply an extension of something that's already there, saving you time and effort all around. If you decide to create a patch, those would go to the cygwin-apps list. Discussion of 'setup.exe' bugs and enhancements go to that list as well. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jun 30 17:40:00 2010 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:40:00 -0000 Subject: Slow response to keypresses in xorg-server-1.8.0-1 In-Reply-To: <4BDDE5F1.9080204@cornell.edu> References: <4BDC3161.9070101@cornell.edu> <4BDDE5F1.9080204@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <4C2B8171.5020409@dronecode.org.uk> On 02/05/2010 21:52, Ken Brown wrote: > On 5/1/2010 9:49 AM, Ken Brown wrote: >> I'm often seeing a very slow response to keypresses under >> xorg-server-1.8.0-1. The problem is intermittent, but it always happens >> within a few minutes after starting the server (via the start menu >> shortcut or a slight variant). Here are some examples: >> >> 1. Switching windows with Alt-Tab sometimes takes up to 15 seconds or >> doesn't work at all (i.e., I get tired of waiting to see if the focus is >> ever going to switch). >> >> 2. When using 'less' to view a file in an xterm window, there is >> sometimes a delayed response to 'space' or 'q'. >> >> 3. When viewing a directory in emacs-X11, pressing 'v' to start viewing >> a file can sometimes result in a long delay, pressing 'space' to scroll >> in view mode can be slow, and pressing 'q' to exit view mode can be slow. >> >> In some of these cases, I sometimes don't get a response to the first >> keypress until I press a second key. For example, if I'm viewing a file >> with 'less', I may press 'q' and get no response. Then pressing 'q' a >> second time exits 'less' and also produces an echoed 'q' in xterm. >> Similarly, I'll sometimes press a key, see no echo, and then get two >> characters echoed at once after pressing a second key. >> >> Reverting to xorg-server-1.7.6-2 solves the problem. >> >> I'm attaching cygcheck output and an XWin log. > > I found a test case that I can reproduce reliably on my system. > > 1. With no .Xdefaults or .startxwinrc, start the X server via the start > menu shortcut. > > 2. Start xfig (with 'xfig &' in the xterm window). > > 3. Repeatedly press Alt-Tab to switch between the xterm and xfig > windows. At some point the focus fails to switch. When this happens, > press Alt and the focus switches. Thanks for the clear reproduction steps. And thanks to the other reporters of this problem :-) This is fallout from a change [1] to the way we process Windows messages to handle large bursts of them overflowing the Xserver's internal event queue. It seems that sometimes /dev/windows doesn't seem ready to select() even when there is still Windows messages to process. I can't quite understand how this happens. I don't think this is a bug in cygwin, but probably something subtle to do with message ordering and nonqueued messages (like WM_ACTIVATE). Anyhow, I've cooked up a small additional change which should prevent this blocking behaviour and uploaded a build [2]. It seems to resolve the problem in this specific case. Perhaps you could try it out and see if it helps? [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2010-02/msg00124.html [2] ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwinx/XWin.20100630-git-bc2f74e105146c36.exe.bz2 -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 18:01:00 2010 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:01:00 -0000 Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly In-Reply-To: <4C2B6CC5.1040603@ece.cmu.edu> References: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> <4C2B6CC5.1040603@ece.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20100630180125.GA5400@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 06:11:49PM +0200, Ryan Johnson wrote: >> >> What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable. We want to be able >> to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our >> point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that >> work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up! >> It is largely irrelevant.). It seems simple--at some point the Setup >> program knows what was selected. It just needs to save it out and be >> able to read it back in. >> >vote +1 > >I've also had this need many times. Most recently, the update to the >latest cygwin dll, which the instructions specifically said should be a >clean install rather than an in-place upgrade. Sheesh. The instructions did *not* say that a clean install was needed. We tried hard to make sure that wasn't necessary in fact. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jun 30 18:03:00 2010 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:03:00 -0000 Subject: Problem when trying to use -nolock Option In-Reply-To: <20100629161332.193930@gmx.net> References: <20100629161332.193930@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4C2B86E4.4040207@dronecode.org.uk> On 29/06/2010 17:13, Mathias Friesenbichler wrote: > Hi, > > I posted this Problem 2 Weeks ago and no one answered yet. > > Is there anyone who can help me? Yourself, first of all. Try reading the 'Xserver' man page. > Thanks, > Mathias > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:24:03 +0200 > Von: "Mathias Friesenbichler" > An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Betreff: Problem when trying to use -nolock Option > > Hi, > > My CygwinX is installed on a server. > Several users are accessing this installation and therefore i want to use the "-nolock" option. No. If several users are running X servers on the same computer at the same time, they need to each use a unique display number. '-nolock' is only useful if /tmp resides on a FAT filesystem, which doesn't support the semantics needed by lockfiles, or if a stale lockfile has been left behind by a crashed XWin which you don't have rights to remove. > > Although i have added this option, cygwinx creates the X1 File in "tmp/.X11-unix". So no other user can access cygwin while it is open. > The logbook output is then: > > ---- > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 1.8.0.0 (10800000) > Build Date: 2010-04-02 > > Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > XWin was started with the following command line: > > /usr/bin/Xwin :1 -ac -query 10.8.248.101 -clipboard -logfile C:\DOKUME~1\fltplehr\LOKALE~1\Temp\xwin.fltplehr.1.log > -nolock -dpi 75 > > ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - primary monitor w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - native DPI x 96 y 96 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning [1061722.984] _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 [1061722.984] _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/pc08309:1 [1061722.984] _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6 [1061723.015] _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed [1061723.015] _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running [1061723.015] Fatal server error: > [1061723.015] Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running > ---- > > I am starting the program with the following code: > start O:\PLS_Faser\Cygwin_PLSStarter\cygwin_installed\bin\Xwin.exe :1 -ac -query IP -clipboard -logfile "%TEMP%\xwin.%USERNAME%.1.log" -nolock -dpi 75 > > Can you help me? -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Wed Jun 30 18:18:00 2010 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:18:00 -0000 Subject: Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly) In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373B06B@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AF6A@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373B06B@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <20100630181810.GA6079@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:51:57AM -0500, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote: >Brian Timares (me! self-replying) wrote: >>However this discussion more properly belongs on a more general Cygwin >>list. I'll see if it makes sense to post a suggestion there. > >I found something where cgf says the big reason remembered installs >aren't done are because it takes someone with the time and skills to do >it (SHTDI). > That post is five years old and unrelated to the topic at hand. This message is referencing the idea to make a windows library for accessing the cygwin mount table. We actually pretty much have that now in fact. But, that message has nothing to do with this. >I found this > >which kinda does what I want. It is still more trouble than I want, but >less than giving someone a list of n packages that I've found useful and >expecting them to go through the list. Mike, that might be worth a try, >though I don't know if it would still work. You're talking about giving someone a file. So just give them a .bat file that contains something like: setup.exe -P openssh,xorg-x11-base,xorg-x11-bin,xterm and let them run it. That will pull in all of the listed packages and any needed dependencies. >On considering the later link I realize that it might not be 100% as >simple as just saving out a list, unless installing package X >automatically and at that point did dependency resolution. setup.exe handles dependencies. That's a big part of its job. >I find discussions of this going back to 2002, but the search for the >main mail list timed out on me. Anyway, I have to get back to work so >I'll try to post to the main list after work. You can find the discussion by people who don't know about setup.exe command-line options nearly every month in the cygwin mailing list. But, anyway, as Larry says, if you don't like the solutions that are available to do what you want then offering a patch is how you will make things happen. I think most of the setup.exe developers are satisfied with the way things work now and aren't looking to implement something else. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dickey@his.com Wed Jun 30 20:48:00 2010 From: dickey@his.com (Thomas Dickey) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:48:00 -0000 Subject: XTerm scrollbar issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100630164554.H26408@mail101.his.com> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, webmaster wrote: > All releases of xterm newer that 229 (i.e. since June '08) have a > broken scrollbar. It never bothered me enough to post a message, but > I've been setting up some new systems and have found it annoying to > dig up xterm-229 and manually install it. > > These images show what the scrollbar used to look like (and what it > still looks like in all recent Linux distributions, even with latest > xterm builds): Problems like that shown with the scrollbar are usually a compile-time mismatch on floating-point. There's a configure option for xterm to address this (--enable-narrowproto or --disable-narrowproto), since the mismatch is not detectable via automatic checks. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/