From phil.betts@gmail.com Fri Jul 1 11:21:00 2011 From: phil.betts@gmail.com (Phil Betts) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:21:00 -0000 Subject: I lose characters because keycode of Fn is same than DEL In-Reply-To: <4E0CA974.4030506@dronecode.org.uk> References: <612FC9F74FD24AD98964B222EA085F89@sulzer.de> <4E0324BB.5020004@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0CA974.4030506@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: On 30 June 2011 17:51, Jon TURNEY wrote: > I've fixed the mapping for this (undocumented) virtual key code, so hopefully > this works correctly now. I've uploaded a snapshot at [1] > > I can't test this as the keyboards I have with an Fn key don't generate a > separate keypress for that, apparently Lenovo laptops are special in this > regard :-), so please let me know if this works. > > [1] ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwinx/XWin.20110630-git-e89b8ba1b44331d1.exe.bz2 Thanks Jon, that works a treat. The new output for the Fn key is: [ 89311.789] winTranslateKey: wParam 000000ff lParam 01630001 [ 89311.789] winSendKeyEvent: dwKey: 85, fDown: 1, nEvents 2 [ 89311.789] winTranslateKey: wParam 000000ff lParam c1630001 [ 89311.789] winSendKeyEvent: dwKey: 85, fDown: 0, nEvents 2 The corresponding output in xev is now: KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 89443079, (86,83), root:(202,215), state 0x0, keycode 93 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 89443079, (86,83), root:(202,215), state 0x0, keycode 93 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False Phil -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Fri Jul 1 15:14:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:14:00 -0000 Subject: I lose characters because keycode of Fn is same than DEL In-Reply-To: References: <612FC9F74FD24AD98964B222EA085F89@sulzer.de> <4E0324BB.5020004@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0CA974.4030506@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E0DE435.9060608@dronecode.org.uk> On 01/07/2011 12:21, Phil Betts wrote: > On 30 June 2011 17:51, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> I've fixed the mapping for this (undocumented) virtual key code, so hopefully >> this works correctly now. I've uploaded a snapshot at [1] >> >> I can't test this as the keyboards I have with an Fn key don't generate a >> separate keypress for that, apparently Lenovo laptops are special in this >> regard :-), so please let me know if this works. >> >> [1] ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwinx/XWin.20110630-git-e89b8ba1b44331d1.exe.bz2 > > Thanks Jon, that works a treat. > > The new output for the Fn key is: > [ 89311.789] winTranslateKey: wParam 000000ff lParam 01630001 > [ 89311.789] winSendKeyEvent: dwKey: 85, fDown: 1, nEvents 2 > [ 89311.789] winTranslateKey: wParam 000000ff lParam c1630001 > [ 89311.789] winSendKeyEvent: dwKey: 85, fDown: 0, nEvents 2 > > The corresponding output in xev is now: > > KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, > root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 89443079, (86,83), root:(202,215), > state 0x0, keycode 93 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 bytes: > XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: > XFilterEvent returns: False > > KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, > root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 89443079, (86,83), root:(202,215), > state 0x0, keycode 93 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 bytes: > XFilterEvent returns: False Thanks. I was aiming to generate an unused keycode, though, so I'm not sure I've picked a good one. Can I see the output of 'setxkbmap -print' as well, please? -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Fri Jul 1 15:28:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:28:00 -0000 Subject: nomultiplemonitors does not work in windowed mode In-Reply-To: References: <4E0CAC6A.1030102@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E0DE795.8040808@dronecode.org.uk> On 30/06/2011 21:48, szalai endre wrote: >>> This mode automatically sets the multiplemonitors option and it cannot >>> be overriden from command line. >> What is it that makes you think this? > > According to XWin docs: "-[no]multimonitors or -[no]multiplemonitors Create > a screen 0 that covers all monitors [the primary monitor] on a system with > multiple monitors. This option is currently enabled by default in > -multiwindow mode." "enabled by default" is not the same as "cannot be disabled from the command line", which is what -nomultiplemonitors does. However... > And this is exactly what happens. When I start a program, it shows up on > both monitors (half here, half there). This is not supposed to happen (see > next point). > >> I'm not sure if I understand what you are expecting to happen with >> -multiwindow -nomultiplemonitors: > > I have 2 monitors. Imagine you turn off one of them and you want to use the > other one only. I assume that is because one of them in an external monitor attached to a laptop which you now want to use on the move, or something like that. This is an interesting use case which hadn't occurred to me previously. If that is the case, it might be that using -resize=randr is a better approach, as this allows the X server to use both monitors for the X display when they are attached, and then resize the X display to the primary monitor when the secondary is detached. (Note that this isn't something I've tested and I wouldn't be surprised if there were some problems with doing that, like for e.g. the windows not getting automatically moved onto the primary display when the resize occurs) Or maybe you don't like the fact that the X windows appear centered on the virtual desktop, and thus split between monitors? Fixing this has been on the todo list for some time, unfortunately. > Currently, Cygwin-X will span over all monitors - unless > you use the multiplemonitors option. I think the goal for this option is > very clear from the docs: use only 1 monitor for the root window, no matter > what. So I would expect this behavior: you should not be able to move off > windows from the primary monitor, at all. The point is, you want to limit > the root window to one monitor only. > > I see the -multiwindow and -nomultiplemonitors options completely > independent from each other. They should not have any relationship at all. > The first just tells how you want to map windows within the root window, > while the other simply specifies how many monitors you want to use for the > root window. ... and indeed they are. But if you actually try -multiwindow -nomultiplemonitors, you'll see that the windows can be moved off the primary monitor, but that they don't get their contents redrawn when you do so (because the underlying X screen is only the size of the primary monitor, so the window is effectively 'off-screen' when moved there) > I thought it is very clear from the docs, however your questions make me > uncertain. Isn't is supposed to work like that? Well, it might be obvious, but it seems we need some special case behavior (like constraining the movement of windows, which doesn't exist yet) to behave in the 'obvious' way in this uncommon case. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From hufilufi@freemail.hu Fri Jul 1 16:15:00 2011 From: hufilufi@freemail.hu (szalai endre) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:15:00 -0000 Subject: nomultiplemonitors does not work in windowed mode In-Reply-To: <4E0DE795.8040808@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi, when -multiwindow and -nomultimonitor is being used and eclipse starts up, it positions the welcome screen to the center of the logical display (half here-half there). Why? It looks like that the actual screen is covering both monitors, then you simply chop off everything outside the primary monitor and keep the rest. What would be the point of doing so? What kind of use case it supposed to implement? Because as a consequence of this, you can move off completely windows from the primary monitor. They may be not-drawn, but still they are completely off. Also, this may be the reason why eclipse actually starts completely off-screen, where it is not visible, at all. I just don't see why applications should think they have a 2 monitor screen, when they actually don't. I think it would make more sense to change the order of steps: if -nomultimonitor is specified, limit the entire root window to the primary monitor, i.e. that would be the entire logical display what applications see. Then you would get the eclipse welcome screen in the center of the primary monitor. I thought that the -nomultimonitor was exactly meant for this. >Or maybe you don't like the fact that the X windows appear centered on the >virtual desktop, and thus split between monitors? Fixing this has been on the >todo list for some time, unfortunately. No, I don't like it, but apart from that I also would like to understand why it works as is today (see the first paragraph of this post). What do you think? Endre Jon TURNEY ?rta: >On 30/06/2011 21:48, szalai endre wrote:> >>> This mode automatically sets the multiplemonitors option and it cannot> >>> be overriden from command line.> >> What is it that makes you think this?> > > > According to XWin docs: "-[no]multimonitors or -[no]multiplemonitors Create> > a screen 0 that covers all monitors [the primary monitor] on a system with> > multiple monitors. This option is currently enabled by default in> > -multiwindow mode."> > "enabled by default" is not the same as "cannot be disabled from the command> line", which is what -nomultiplemonitors does.> > However...> > > And this is exactly what happens. When I start a program, it shows up on> > both monitors (half here, half there). This is not supposed to happen (see> > next point).> > > >> I'm not sure if I understand what you are expecting to happen with> >> -multiwindow -nomultiplemonitors:> > > > I have 2 monitors. Imagine you turn off one of them and you want to use the> > other one only.> > I assume that is because one of them in an external monitor attached to a> laptop which you now want to use on the move, or something like that. This is> an interesting use case which hadn't occurred to me previously.> > If that is the case, it might be that using -resize=randr is a better> approach, as this allows the X server to use both monitors for the X display> when they are attached, and then resize the X display to the primary monitor> when the secondary is detached.> > (Note that this isn't something I've tested and I wouldn't be surprised if> there were some problems with doing that, like for e.g. the windows not> getting automatically moved onto the primary display when the resize occurs)> > Or maybe you don't like the fact that the X windows appear centered on the> virtual desktop, and thus split between monitors? Fixing this has been on the> todo list for some time, unfortunately.> > > Currently, Cygwin-X will span over all monitors - unless> > you use the multiplemonitors option. I think the goal for this option is> > very clear from the docs: use only 1 monitor for the root window, no matter> > what. So I would expect this behavior: you should not be able to move off> > windows from the primary monitor, at all. The point is, you want to limit> > the root window to one monitor only.> > > > I see the -multiwindow and -nomultiplemonitors options completely> > independent from each other. They should not have any relationship at all.> > The first just tells how you want to map windows within the root window,> > while the other simply specifies how many monitors you want to use for the> > root window.> > ... and indeed they are.> > But if you actually try -multiwindow -nomultiplemonitors, you'll see that the> windows can be moved off the primary monitor, but that they don't get their> contents redrawn when you do so (because the underlying X screen is only the> size of the primary monitor, so the window is effectively 'off-screen' when> moved there)> > > I thought it is very clear from the docs, however your questions make me> > uncertain. Isn't is supposed to work like that?> > Well, it might be obvious, but it seems we need some special case behavior> (like constraining the movement of windows, which doesn't exist yet) to behave> in the 'obvious' way in this uncommon case.> > -- > Jon TURNEY> Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer> > --> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html> Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/> FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/> > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From hufilufi@freemail.hu Fri Jul 1 20:38:00 2011 From: hufilufi@freemail.hu (szalai endre) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 20:38:00 -0000 Subject: nomultiplemonitors does not work in windowed mode In-Reply-To: <4E0DE795.8040808@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi, when -multiwindow and -nomultimonitor is being used and eclipse starts up, it positions the welcome screen to the center of the logical display (half here-half there). Why? It looks like that the actual screen is covering both monitors, then you simply chop off everything outside the primary monitor and keep the rest. What would be the point of doing so? What kind of use case it supposed to implement? Because as a consequence of this, you can move off completely windows from the primary monitor. They may be not-drawn, but still they are completely off. Also, this may be the reason why eclipse actually starts completely off-screen, where it is not visible, at all. I just don't see why applications should think they have a 2 monitor screen, when they actually don't. I think it would make more sense to change the order of steps: if -nomultimonitor is specified, limit the entire root window to the primary monitor, i.e. that would be the entire logical display what applications see. Then you would get the eclipse welcome screen in the center of the primary monitor. I thought that the -nomultimonitor was exactly meant for this. >Or maybe you don't like the fact that the X windows appear centered on the >virtual desktop, and thus split between monitors? Fixing this has been on the >todo list for some time, unfortunately. No, I don't like it, but apart from that I also would like to understand why it works as is today (see the first paragraph of this post). What do you think? Endre Jon TURNEY ?rta: >On 30/06/2011 21:48, szalai endre wrote:> >>> This mode automatically sets the multiplemonitors option and it cannot> >>> be overriden from command line.> >> What is it that makes you think this?> > > > According to XWin docs: "-[no]multimonitors or -[no]multiplemonitors Create> > a screen 0 that covers all monitors [the primary monitor] on a system with> > multiple monitors. This option is currently enabled by default in> > -multiwindow mode."> > "enabled by default" is not the same as "cannot be disabled from the command> line", which is what -nomultiplemonitors does.> > However...> > > And this is exactly what happens. When I start a program, it shows up on> > both monitors (half here, half there). This is not supposed to happen (see> > next point).> > > >> I'm not sure if I understand what you are expecting to happen with> >> -multiwindow -nomultiplemonitors:> > > > I have 2 monitors. Imagine you turn off one of them and you want to use the> > other one only.> > I assume that is because one of them in an external monitor attached to a> laptop which you now want to use on the move, or something like that. This is> an interesting use case which hadn't occurred to me previously.> > If that is the case, it might be that using -resize=randr is a better> approach, as this allows the X server to use both monitors for the X display> when they are attached, and then resize the X display to the primary monitor> when the secondary is detached.> > (Note that this isn't something I've tested and I wouldn't be surprised if> there were some problems with doing that, like for e.g. the windows not> getting automatically moved onto the primary display when the resize occurs)> > Or maybe you don't like the fact that the X windows appear centered on the> virtual desktop, and thus split between monitors? Fixing this has been on the> todo list for some time, unfortunately.> > > Currently, Cygwin-X will span over all monitors - unless> > you use the multiplemonitors option. I think the goal for this option is> > very clear from the docs: use only 1 monitor for the root window, no matter> > what. So I would expect this behavior: you should not be able to move off> > windows from the primary monitor, at all. The point is, you want to limit> > the root window to one monitor only.> > > > I see the -multiwindow and -nomultiplemonitors options completely> > independent from each other. They should not have any relationship at all.> > The first just tells how you want to map windows within the root window,> > while the other simply specifies how many monitors you want to use for the> > root window.> > ... and indeed they are.> > But if you actually try -multiwindow -nomultiplemonitors, you'll see that the> windows can be moved off the primary monitor, but that they don't get their> contents redrawn when you do so (because the underlying X screen is only the> size of the primary monitor, so the window is effectively 'off-screen' when> moved there)> > > I thought it is very clear from the docs, however your questions make me> > uncertain. Isn't is supposed to work like that?> > Well, it might be obvious, but it seems we need some special case behavior> (like constraining the movement of windows, which doesn't exist yet) to behave> in the 'obvious' way in this uncommon case.> > -- > Jon TURNEY> Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer> > --> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html> Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/> FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/> > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From tobias.haeussler@gmx.de Sat Jul 2 16:51:00 2011 From: tobias.haeussler@gmx.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tobias_H=E4u=DFler?=) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:51:00 -0000 Subject: Taskbar grouping in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4E0B27DA.20701@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E05D930.6090305@gmx.de> <4E0B27DA.20701@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E0E303B.9000802@gmx.de> On 29/06/2011 15:25, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 25/06/2011 13:48, Tobias H??u??ler wrote: >> I created a small patch for XWin that adds correct grouping of taskbar >> icons when 'Always combine, hide labels' is set in the taskbar >> properties. It uses the new taskbar APIs introduced in Windows 7 to set >> an application id for each window. The id is based on the X11 class hints. >> Maybe it is useful for someone... > > Firstly, thanks very much for this patch. > > Getting Windows to correctly group XWin windows on the taskbar is something > that has needed fixing for a while, so it's great to have it done :-) > Thanks for your suggestions! I changed the code you mentioned. > A few minor comments included inline: >> [...] > Can you start this file with the license information, like all other files. > > This should also serve to confirm that you are happy for me to forward this > upstream to be distributed under the MIT/X11 license [1] > Done. I copied the license text from another file... >> [...] > > Looks like this function can be made static? > Yes, however for proper cleanup this function is now also called from the WM_DESTROY handler and I left it non-static. >> [...] > > Since the results of LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress are invariant at run-time, I'd > rather these calls were done once, rather than every time we want to use those > results. > > It would also be useful to include a comment mentioning which version of > Windows these interfaces were added in (so future generations will know when > they can directly link to those functions :-)) > > I assume that there is no way to achieve this functionality prior for Windows > 7, rather than an alternative interface which you chose not to use? > The initialization/deinitialization is now done only once when XWin is started/stopped. I am not sure if there is an API to control the taskbar grouping on older versions of Windows, therefore I have choosen this one... >> [...] > > Should be PropVariantInit() ? > I cannot use PropVariantInit() for the initialization of the PROPVARIANT structure because it is not supported bei the w32api of cygwin (or at least I cannot find it). According to the Microsoft SDK, PropVariantInit only calls memset. >> [...] > > The MSDN description of SHGetPropertyStoreForWindow() says: > "A window's properties must be removed before the window is closed. If this is > not done, the resources used by those properties are not returned to the system." > > Does this not apply in this case, or is some cleanup needed? > You are right about that, I added code for cleanup. >> [...] > > [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/COPYING > Tobias -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: taskbar.patch URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From shahabm@bellsouth.net Sun Jul 3 12:53:00 2011 From: shahabm@bellsouth.net (Shahab Manavi) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:53:00 -0000 Subject: Slow - very slow window creation? Message-ID: <000001cc38d8$3444d780$9cce8680$@bellsouth.net> Recently I installed a Debian system in a virtual pc machine on my Windows 7 Ultimate (core 4 6G ) it worked fine; windows update and response time great. The only problem was the size of the virtual screen was too small and Windows provided no way of modifying the virtual video board to accommodate larger screens. At this point I recalled Cygwin/X and thought I should access the virtual debian with Cygwin/X instead of the virtual video card. Great, except that it seems creating of new objects is excruciatingly slow. I experimented with -depth and -screen options to no avail. Finally as a last "oh what the hell" I tried using compression with ssh. It worked. Even though compression with ssh on a fast network is supposed to slow things down. I have no idea why it works, but it does. Given that MS does not ship an Integration Component for Linux with Windows 7, this is a fairly good alternative. I'm sure there are others like me who have the same problem and if you can verify my experience, you may want to incorporate it in your FAQ. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Mon Jul 4 10:34:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:34:00 -0000 Subject: NT4? In-Reply-To: References: <20110331203416.GB2606@calimero.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <4E106633.60804@dronecode.org.uk> On 01/04/2011 07:07, Andy Koppe wrote: > On 31 March 2011 21:34, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> Is anybody here still using Cygwin on Windows NT4 on a daily basis? I'm >> asking because we're planning to drop NT4 support entirely and I would >> like to know if there are lots of people who would be very sad if that >> happens. > > FWIW, NT4 support in mintty has been broken since version 0.6.1 a year > ago, and nobody reported it until Corinna stumbled across it in NT4 > testing a few days ago. fwiw, I thought that I might have broken XWin on NT4 recently. On checking, I discovered that XWin has been broken on NT4 without anyone complaining since at least 1.6.3-1, released 2009-09-06. The VerSetConditionMask() API we use to check we aren't running on Windows 2000 isn't available on NT4. :-). Also it looks like multiwindow mode has probably not worked correctly for longer. > Microsoft stopped supporting NT4 in 2004. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Mon Jul 4 10:48:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:48:00 -0000 Subject: nomultiplemonitors does not work in windowed mode In-Reply-To: References: <4E0DE795.8040808@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E11972D.1030108@dronecode.org.uk> On 01/07/2011 17:15, szalai endre wrote: > when -multiwindow and -nomultimonitor is being used and eclipse starts up, > it positions the welcome screen to the center of the logical display (half > here-half there). If that is happening, that would be a bug. I can't reproduce that using Eclipse 3.6.1, the splash screen is correctly positioned in the in center of a monitor. So can you provide some more details? Your /var/log/xwin/XWin.0.log The version of Eclipse you are running Details of your monitor layout (size, arrangement, which one is primary) You might also want to have a read of http://cygwin.com/problems.html and the advice linked to from there :-) > Why? It looks like that the actual screen is covering > both monitors, then you simply chop off everything outside the primary > monitor and keep the rest. What would be the point of doing so? What kind > of use case it supposed to implement? Your assumption about the implementation is incorrect. You can check the size of the X screen yourself using the xrandr or xdpyinfo commands, and, when -nomultimonitor is used, you should see that it is the same size as the primary monitor. Detailed and possibly accurate instructions for obtaining the source code can be found in the Contributor's Guide at [1], so you don't need to speculate about the implementation. [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ > Because as a consequence of this, you can move off completely windows from > the primary monitor. They may be not-drawn, but still they are completely > off. I've already explained this once. It's not a consequence of the size of the X screen. At the moment, you can move the native windows containing X windows off the primary monitor because no special constraints are applied on their positioning. They can be moved anywhere other native windows can be moved. It would be nice if somebody wrote some code to fix that, but thinking about it, I'm not even sure how it should work. Normally you can move windows so all but some part of the title bar goes off the virtual desktop (so you can still grab the window and move it back). If you applied the same constraint to windows and their X screen, you'd still have possibility of most of the window being off the X screen, and thus undrawn. I suppose you could constrain the windows so they must be entirely on the X screen, but I imagine that would feel rather inconsistent. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Mon Jul 4 15:19:00 2011 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:19:00 -0000 Subject: NT4? In-Reply-To: <4E106633.60804@dronecode.org.uk> References: <20110331203416.GB2606@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E106633.60804@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <20110704104800.GB20822@calimero.vinschen.de> On Jul 3 13:53, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 01/04/2011 07:07, Andy Koppe wrote: > > On 31 March 2011 21:34, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >> Is anybody here still using Cygwin on Windows NT4 on a daily basis? I'm > >> asking because we're planning to drop NT4 support entirely and I would > >> like to know if there are lots of people who would be very sad if that > >> happens. > > > > FWIW, NT4 support in mintty has been broken since version 0.6.1 a year > > ago, and nobody reported it until Corinna stumbled across it in NT4 > > testing a few days ago. > > fwiw, I thought that I might have broken XWin on NT4 recently. > > On checking, I discovered that XWin has been broken on NT4 without anyone > complaining since at least 1.6.3-1, released 2009-09-06. The > VerSetConditionMask() API we use to check we aren't running on Windows 2000 > isn't available on NT4. :-). Also it looks like multiwindow mode has probably > not worked correctly for longer. > > > Microsoft stopped supporting NT4 in 2004. And Cygwin stops support with 1.7.10. Rest in peace, NT4. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From phil.betts@gmail.com Tue Jul 5 12:50:00 2011 From: phil.betts@gmail.com (Phil Betts) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:50:00 -0000 Subject: I lose characters because keycode of Fn is same than DEL In-Reply-To: <4E0DE435.9060608@dronecode.org.uk> References: <612FC9F74FD24AD98964B222EA085F89@sulzer.de> <4E0324BB.5020004@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0CA974.4030506@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0DE435.9060608@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: On 1 July 2011 16:13, Jon TURNEY wrote: > I was aiming to generate an unused keycode, though, so I'm not sure I've > picked a good one. Understood, although just about anything is preferable to Delete :) Since Fn functions as a modifier, perhaps one of the Mod keys, e.g. Mod5 might be a better choice. As long as it can be distinguished from any other key, we can use xmodmap to map it to whatever we want (e.g. Control_L for me). > Can I see the output of 'setxkbmap -print' as well, please? xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" }; xkb_types { include "complete" }; xkb_compat { include "complete" }; xkb_symbols { include "pc+gb+inet(pc105)" }; xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" }; }; I get the same output regardless of whether X is started with or without an external keyboard plugged in (is the external keyboard even considered?). Thanks, Phil -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jul 6 08:16:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:16:00 -0000 Subject: I lose characters because keycode of Fn is same than DEL In-Reply-To: References: <612FC9F74FD24AD98964B222EA085F89@sulzer.de> <4E0324BB.5020004@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0CA974.4030506@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0DE435.9060608@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E130870.4010804@dronecode.org.uk> On 04/07/2011 16:19, Phil Betts wrote: > On 1 July 2011 16:13, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> I was aiming to generate an unused keycode, though, so I'm not sure I've >> picked a good one. > > Understood, although just about anything is preferable to Delete :) > > Since Fn functions as a modifier, perhaps one of the Mod keys, e.g. > Mod5 might be a better choice. > > As long as it can be distinguished from any other key, we can use > xmodmap to map it to whatever we want (e.g. Control_L for me). Well, I was aiming for it to do nothing by default and then it can be mapped to a modifier if desired. >> Can I see the output of 'setxkbmap -print' as well, please? > > xkb_keymap { > xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" }; > xkb_types { include "complete" }; > xkb_compat { include "complete" }; > xkb_symbols { include "pc+gb+inet(pc105)" }; > xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" }; > }; Hm.. this is strange, I have the same keymap, but when I generate that key event (I have to hack my X server to do that as I don't have a Fn key), I get: KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x800001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 7868875, (90,80), root:(2056,142), state 0x0, keycode 93 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x800001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 7868968, (90,80), root:(2056,142), state 0x0, keycode 93 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False .. and this seems right looking at the output of 'xmodmap -pk', so there's something else going on here I don't understand :-) > I get the same output regardless of whether X is started with or without > an external keyboard plugged in (is the external keyboard even > considered?). Not really, all the Windows keyboard input (which may come from real keyboards or programs pretending to be one) is composed into a single virtual X keyboard. Perhaps this isn't quite right but works well enough for most purposes :-) -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Jul 6 14:02:00 2011 From: danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com (Danilo Turina) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:02:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X + HP-UX 11.11 + italian keyboard = AltGr not working Message-ID: <4E1419B6.5070209@alcatel-lucent.com> Hello, having recently replaced my old keyboard (that had a US layout) with an italian one, I'm having a problem with Cygwin X when running HP-UX clients: AltGr does not work and this prevents me to use characters like "[" "{" "}" "]", etc. I'm up to date with Cygwin and Cygwin X at the moment ("1.7.9(0.237/5/3) 2011-03-29 10:10 i686 Cygwin" for Cygwin and "1.10.2.0" for XWin). These are the steps to reproduce the problem: 1) start Cygwin X 2) disable access control ("xhost +") 3) access via telnet/ssh a HP-UX machine 4) open an xterm from the HP-UX machine in Cygwin X 5) in the newly opened xterm try to use AltGr (AltGr + "??" (i.e. the key at the right of "P"), should produce "{", while AltGr + Shift + "??" should produce "{") 6) fall on the floor crying in desperation Notice that when using a client from a Linux machine all works properly. A googled a lot and found a lot of information but only few of it applied (=helped) to my specific case. I tried to mess with xmodmap and kbd config files and also with other stuff, but nothing seemed to solve the problem. At the moment I'm using Xming 6.9.0.31 that doesn't seem affected by the problem IF I set XKB_DISABLE=1 on the client machine (i.e. HP-UX). Trying to troubleshoot the problem, I used xev on the HP-UX machine to see if the keys were properly recognized and, in effect, they are. This are xev results for Cygwin X, when I press (and release) AltGr+?? (thus by trying to get "[") with XKB_DISABLED not set: KeyPress event, serial 19, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697269421, (167,-13), root:(345,181), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697269703, (167,-13), root:(345,181), state 0x80, keycode 34 (keysym 0x5b, bracketleft), same_screen YES, XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 17 XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5b) "[" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697269750, (167,-13), root:(345,181), state 0x80, keycode 34 (keysym 0x5b, bracketleft), same_screen YES, XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 17 XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5b) "[" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0x400001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697269890, (167,-13), root:(345,181), state 0x80, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False If I set XKB_DISABLED=1, I get, instead: KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697070562, (170,-9), root:(216,53), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697071250, (170,-9), root:(216,53), state 0x80, keycode 34 (keysym 0xe8, egrave), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e8) "??" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697071312, (170,-9), root:(216,53), state 0x80, keycode 34 (keysym 0xe8, egrave), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e8) "??" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001, root 0x101, subw 0x0, time 697071390, (170,-9), root:(216,53), state 0x80, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False If I try xev on Xming with XKB_DISABLED=1 (where I have no problem at all), I get: KeyPress event, serial 16, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x5a, subw 0x0, time 696970906, (79,-9), root:(213,144), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x5a, subw 0x0, time 696971078, (79,-9), root:(213,144), state 0x80, keycode 34 (keysym 0x5b, bracketleft), same_screen YES, XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 17 XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5b) "[" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x5a, subw 0x0, time 696971140, (79,-9), root:(213,144), state 0x80, keycode 34 (keysym 0x5b, bracketleft), same_screen YES, XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 17 XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5b) "[" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa00001, root 0x5a, subw 0x0, time 696971250, (79,-9), root:(213,144), state 0x80, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False One strange thing that I noticed is that if I start Cygwin X by using "startxwin" from the Cygwin's command line, I get the following warning on screen: (--) 3 mouse buttons found (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) Windows keyboard layout: "00000410" (00000410) "Italian", type 4 (--) Found matching XKB configuration "Italian" (--) Model = "pc105" Layout = "it" Variant = "none" Options = "none" Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "it" Variant = "none" Options = "none" The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols > Ignoring extra symbols But that warning is not present in XWin.0.log (attached). Any suggestion about this problem or about any procedure to diagnose it properly? Thank you, Danilo Turina -- DANILO TURINA ALCATEL-LUCENT Software Analyst NM System Team Network-Optics Rieti (Italy) Phone: +39 0746 600332 10 anni 2 mesi 26 giorni 23 ore 59 minuti 7 secondi -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: XWin.0.log URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jul 6 14:27:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:27:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X + HP-UX 11.11 + italian keyboard = AltGr not working In-Reply-To: <4E1419B6.5070209@alcatel-lucent.com> References: <4E1419B6.5070209@alcatel-lucent.com> Message-ID: <4E146AF3.7010300@dronecode.org.uk> On 06/07/2011 09:15, Danilo Turina wrote: > having recently replaced my old keyboard (that had a US layout) with an > italian one, I'm having a problem with Cygwin X when running HP-UX clients: > AltGr does not work and this prevents me to use characters like "[" "{" "}" > "]", etc. > > I'm up to date with Cygwin and Cygwin X at the moment ("1.7.9(0.237/5/3) > 2011-03-29 10:10 i686 Cygwin" for Cygwin and "1.10.2.0" for XWin). > > These are the steps to reproduce the problem: > > 1) start Cygwin X > 2) disable access control ("xhost +") > 3) access via telnet/ssh a HP-UX machine > 4) open an xterm from the HP-UX machine in Cygwin X > 5) in the newly opened xterm try to use AltGr (AltGr + "??" (i.e. the key > at the right of "P"), should produce "{", while AltGr + Shift + "??" should > produce "{") I'm missing here what is actually produced. Nothing? or the unmodified ??? > 6) fall on the floor crying in desperation This is perfectly normal for people having to deal with XKB :-) > Notice that when using a client from a Linux machine all works properly. > > A googled a lot and found a lot of information but only few of it applied > (=helped) to my specific case. I tried to mess with xmodmap and kbd config > files and also with other stuff, but nothing seemed to solve the problem. I think a solution is contained in this old mailing list post [1], use XKB_DISABLE=1 and adjust the keyboard map so that AltGr is Mode_switch and the keys have the expected mapping in group 2, activated via Mode_switch. Note that just reassigning AltGr to Mode_switch is not enough, you'll need to remap appropriately the keys which generate different characters with AltGr e.g. something like: xmodmap -e "clear mod5" xmodmap -e "clear mod3" xmodmap -e "keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key" xmodmap -e "add mod3 = Mode_switch" xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft" (and so on for the other keys which need to generate different characters with AltGr) I can't test this, because I don't have access to a HP-UX machine. [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-03/msg00454.html > At the moment I'm using Xming 6.9.0.31 that doesn't seem affected by the > problem IF I set XKB_DISABLE=1 on the client machine (i.e. HP-UX). > > Trying to troubleshoot the problem, I used xev on the HP-UX machine to see if > the keys were properly recognized and, in effect, they are. > This are xev results for Cygwin X, when I press (and release) AltGr+?? (thus by > trying to get "[") with XKB_DISABLED not set: > [snip] > > If I set XKB_DISABLED=1, I get, instead: > [snip] > > If I try xev on Xming with XKB_DISABLED=1 (where I have no problem at all), I > get: > [snip] It's kind of hard to know how to interpret these results since I don't know what XKB_DISABLED=1 actually does. > One strange thing that I noticed is that if I start Cygwin X by using > "startxwin" from the Cygwin's command line, I get the following warning on > screen: [snip] > The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols >> Ignoring extra symbols > > But that warning is not present in XWin.0.log (attached). I think this is normal, if a little odd. Warnings from xkbocmp are written to stdout, but not written to the log. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Jul 7 00:12:00 2011 From: danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com (Danilo Turina) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:12:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X + HP-UX 11.11 + italian keyboard = AltGr not working In-Reply-To: <4E146AF3.7010300@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E1419B6.5070209@alcatel-lucent.com> <4E146AF3.7010300@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E147091.6090305@alcatel-lucent.com> On 06/07/2011 16.02, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 06/07/2011 09:15, Danilo Turina wrote: >> having recently replaced my old keyboard (that had a US layout) with an >> italian one, I'm having a problem with Cygwin X when running HP-UX clients: >> AltGr does not work and this prevents me to use characters like "[" "{" "}" >> "]", etc. >> >> I'm up to date with Cygwin and Cygwin X at the moment ("1.7.9(0.237/5/3) >> 2011-03-29 10:10 i686 Cygwin" for Cygwin and "1.10.2.0" for XWin). >> >> These are the steps to reproduce the problem: >> >> 1) start Cygwin X >> 2) disable access control ("xhost +") >> 3) access via telnet/ssh a HP-UX machine >> 4) open an xterm from the HP-UX machine in Cygwin X >> 5) in the newly opened xterm try to use AltGr (AltGr + "??" (i.e. the key >> at the right of "P"), should produce "{", while AltGr + Shift + "??" should >> produce "{") > > I'm missing here what is actually produced. Nothing? or the unmodified ??? The unmodified ?? (well, sort of, because when I press "??" on the keyboard I see on the terminal "I" (I think because of some other problem of the terminal with non-ASCII chars) and if I press AltGr+"??" I yet see "I", so it's just like pressing AltGr has no effect at all). > >> 6) fall on the floor crying in desperation > > This is perfectly normal for people having to deal with XKB :-) > >> Notice that when using a client from a Linux machine all works properly. >> >> A googled a lot and found a lot of information but only few of it applied >> (=helped) to my specific case. I tried to mess with xmodmap and kbd config >> files and also with other stuff, but nothing seemed to solve the problem. > > I think a solution is contained in this old mailing list post [1], use > XKB_DISABLE=1 and adjust the keyboard map so that AltGr is Mode_switch and the > keys have the expected mapping in group 2, activated via Mode_switch. > > Note that just reassigning AltGr to Mode_switch is not enough, you'll need to > remap appropriately the keys which generate different characters with AltGr > e.g. something like: > > xmodmap -e "clear mod5" > xmodmap -e "clear mod3" > xmodmap -e "keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key" > xmodmap -e "add mod3 = Mode_switch" > xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft" > (and so on for the other keys which need to generate different characters with > AltGr) I already encountered some like that while searching the internet but didn't work. I tried what you wrote here but didn't work either... Is there anything that I can do to go deeper into the analysis of this problem? xev seems not of any help, since it returns the same results both for Xming where all works and Cygwin X where I have the problem. Ciao, Danilo > > I can't test this, because I don't have access to a HP-UX machine. > > [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-03/msg00454.html > >> At the moment I'm using Xming 6.9.0.31 that doesn't seem affected by the >> problem IF I set XKB_DISABLE=1 on the client machine (i.e. HP-UX). >> >> Trying to troubleshoot the problem, I used xev on the HP-UX machine to see if >> the keys were properly recognized and, in effect, they are. >> This are xev results for Cygwin X, when I press (and release) AltGr+?? (thus by >> trying to get "[") with XKB_DISABLED not set: >> > [snip] >> >> If I set XKB_DISABLED=1, I get, instead: >> > [snip] >> >> If I try xev on Xming with XKB_DISABLED=1 (where I have no problem at all), I >> get: >> > [snip] > > It's kind of hard to know how to interpret these results since I don't know > what XKB_DISABLED=1 actually does. > > >> One strange thing that I noticed is that if I start Cygwin X by using >> "startxwin" from the Cygwin's command line, I get the following warning on >> screen: > [snip] >> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >>> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols >>> Ignoring extra symbols >> >> But that warning is not present in XWin.0.log (attached). > > I think this is normal, if a little odd. Warnings from xkbocmp are written to > stdout, but not written to the log. > -- DANILO TURINA ALCATEL-LUCENT Software Analyst NM System Team Network-Optics Rieti (Italy) Phone: +39 0746 600332 10 anni 2 mesi 27 giorni 6 ore 42 minuti 8 secondi -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From angelo.graziosi@alice.it Thu Jul 7 00:26:00 2011 From: angelo.graziosi@alice.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:26:00 -0000 Subject: On xkb_* in /tmp Message-ID: <4E14F9D3.7060206@alice.it> After the last upgrade to xorg-server I find in /tmp: ... 316 Jul 7 02:06 xkb_H2DcsY ... 316 Jul 7 02:06 xkb_PTGhAv Is this to be expected? Ciao, Angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From angelo.graziosi@alice.it Thu Jul 7 12:51:00 2011 From: angelo.graziosi@alice.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:51:00 -0000 Subject: On xkb_* in /tmp In-Reply-To: <4E14F9D3.7060206@alice.it> References: <4E14F9D3.7060206@alice.it> Message-ID: <4E14FD0F.6000200@alice.it> Il 07/07/2011 2.12, Angelo Graziosi ha scritto: > After the last upgrade to xorg-server I find in /tmp: > > ... 316 Jul 7 02:06 xkb_H2DcsY > ... 316 Jul 7 02:06 xkb_PTGhAv > > Is this to be expected? Now I have seen that /tmp is filling od xkb_* files each time I login (i.e. XWin starts)... :( > Ciao, > Angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Thu Jul 7 13:04:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: On xkb_* in /tmp In-Reply-To: <4E14FD0F.6000200@alice.it> References: <4E14F9D3.7060206@alice.it> <4E14FD0F.6000200@alice.it> Message-ID: <4E15ABBA.7090008@dronecode.org.uk> On 07/07/2011 01:25, Angelo Graziosi wrote: > Il 07/07/2011 2.12, Angelo Graziosi ha scritto: >> After the last upgrade to xorg-server I find in /tmp: >> >> ... 316 Jul 7 02:06 xkb_H2DcsY >> ... 316 Jul 7 02:06 xkb_PTGhAv >> >> Is this to be expected? > > Now I have seen that /tmp is filling od xkb_* files each time I login (i.e. > XWin starts)... :( Thanks for reporting this. 1.10.2-1 has a change to write the keymap to a temporary file and use system() to run xkbcomp, rather than write it to a pipe and fork() xkbcomp (to avoid fork() failures preventing the X server from starting), using code that already exists for this purpose on for xming. But it seems I had failed to add the patch that xming has to ensure that these temporary files are cleaned up correctly. I'll fix this and update the X server, but in the meantime you should be able to remove these temporary files once the server has started with no ill effects :-) -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Thu Jul 7 13:34:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:34:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X + HP-UX 11.11 + italian keyboard = AltGr not working In-Reply-To: <4E147091.6090305@alcatel-lucent.com> References: <4E1419B6.5070209@alcatel-lucent.com> <4E146AF3.7010300@dronecode.org.uk> <4E147091.6090305@alcatel-lucent.com> Message-ID: <4E15AED5.6090003@dronecode.org.uk> On 06/07/2011 15:26, Danilo Turina wrote: > On 06/07/2011 16.02, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> On 06/07/2011 09:15, Danilo Turina wrote: >>> having recently replaced my old keyboard (that had a US layout) with an >>> italian one, I'm having a problem with Cygwin X when running HP-UX clients: >>> AltGr does not work and this prevents me to use characters like "[" "{" "}" >>> "]", etc. >>> >>> I'm up to date with Cygwin and Cygwin X at the moment ("1.7.9(0.237/5/3) >>> 2011-03-29 10:10 i686 Cygwin" for Cygwin and "1.10.2.0" for XWin). >>> >>> These are the steps to reproduce the problem: >>> >>> 1) start Cygwin X >>> 2) disable access control ("xhost +") >>> 3) access via telnet/ssh a HP-UX machine >>> 4) open an xterm from the HP-UX machine in Cygwin X >>> 5) in the newly opened xterm try to use AltGr (AltGr + "??" (i.e. the key >>> at the right of "P"), should produce "{", while AltGr + Shift + "??" should >>> produce "{") >> >> I'm missing here what is actually produced. Nothing? or the unmodified ??? > > The unmodified ?? (well, sort of, because when I press "??" on the keyboard I > see on the terminal "I" (I think because of some other problem of the terminal > with non-ASCII chars) and if I press AltGr+"??" I yet see "I", so it's just > like pressing AltGr has no effect at all). > >> >>> 6) fall on the floor crying in desperation >> >> This is perfectly normal for people having to deal with XKB :-) >> >>> Notice that when using a client from a Linux machine all works properly. >>> >>> A googled a lot and found a lot of information but only few of it applied >>> (=helped) to my specific case. I tried to mess with xmodmap and kbd config >>> files and also with other stuff, but nothing seemed to solve the problem. >> >> I think a solution is contained in this old mailing list post [1], use >> XKB_DISABLE=1 and adjust the keyboard map so that AltGr is Mode_switch and the >> keys have the expected mapping in group 2, activated via Mode_switch. >> >> Note that just reassigning AltGr to Mode_switch is not enough, you'll need to >> remap appropriately the keys which generate different characters with AltGr >> e.g. something like: >> >> xmodmap -e "clear mod5" >> xmodmap -e "clear mod3" >> xmodmap -e "keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key" >> xmodmap -e "add mod3 = Mode_switch" >> xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft" >> (and so on for the other keys which need to generate different characters with >> AltGr) > > I already encountered some like that while searching the internet but didn't > work. > I tried what you wrote here but didn't work either... Just to be clear, you probably have to do all this before you start the xterm you are going to be working in. Can I see the xev output when you try that setup? > Is there anything that I can do to go deeper into the analysis of this > problem? xev seems not of any help, since it returns the same results both for > Xming where all works and Cygwin X where I have the problem. Yes, that's rather mystifying. You might consider using wireshark, xmon or xscope to examine the protocol interactions between client and server (not sure if all of these can decode XKB extension protocol) to see if there is any difference there. It seems that XKB_DISABLE is checked for inside libX11 (at least since R6.6, the oldest version in freedesktop.org git), so you might want to identify what version is on your HP-UX host and try to understand how it behaves. It might also be worthwhile to look forward in the version history to see if there's been a fix made for this behavior? Lastly, I notice that HP-UX 11.11 is apparently still in support, so you might actually ask HP to fix it :-) -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From angelo.graziosi@alice.it Thu Jul 7 14:24:00 2011 From: angelo.graziosi@alice.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: On xkb_* in /tmp In-Reply-To: <4E15ABBA.7090008@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E14F9D3.7060206@alice.it> <4E14FD0F.6000200@alice.it> <4E15ABBA.7090008@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E15B5C2.1000700@alice.it> Il 07/07/2011 14.51, Jon TURNEY ha scritto: > I'll fix this and update the X server, but in the meantime you should be able > to remove these temporary files once the server has started with no ill > effects :-) > Thanks a lot! Ciao, Angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dano@columbia.edu Thu Jul 7 15:32:00 2011 From: dano@columbia.edu (Daniel Bienstock) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:32:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 Message-ID: Hello, I have a new Dell Dimension M6600 with Windows 7 SP 1. I have disabled the Windows firewall and added rules to allow programs in cygwin and cygwin\bin to run. I am using cygwin 1.7.9 (I also use older cygwins on many 32-bit Windows machines). On this machine, X runs badly: often very slowly, and frequently with crashes as well. A couple of times I was forced to reboot the machine -- Windows appeared unresponsive. I did try rebaseall, but did not help (in fact had to reinstall cygwin). I have seen some posts on this topic, but no definitive workaround. Any help welcome. Daniel Bienstock -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From reply-to-list-only-lh@cygwin.com Thu Jul 7 16:10:00 2011 From: reply-to-list-only-lh@cygwin.com (Larry Hall (Cygwin-X)) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:10:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E15D152.4050605@cygwin.com> On 7/7/2011 10:24 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: > Hello, > > I have a new Dell Dimension M6600 with Windows 7 SP 1. I have disabled > the Windows firewall and added rules to allow programs in cygwin and > cygwin\bin to run. > > I am using cygwin 1.7.9 (I also use older cygwins on many 32-bit Windows > machines). > > On this machine, X runs badly: often very slowly, and frequently with > crashes as well. A couple of times I was forced to reboot the machine -- > Windows appeared unresponsive. > > I did try rebaseall, but did not help (in fact had to reinstall cygwin). > > I have seen some posts on this topic, but no definitive workaround. Sounds like a case of BLODA to me. -- Larry _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Fri Jul 8 01:13:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:13:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.2-2 Message-ID: The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: *** xorg-server-1.10.2-2 *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.2-2 These packages contain XWin and the other X.Org X11 servers. The following cygwin-specific changes have been made since 1.10.2-1: * Ensure the temporary file used when invoking xkbcomp is always removed * Handle the virtual key code generated by the Fn key on IBM Lenovo laptops so it doesn't also function as delete 536fffbf6141813f0f285db094c88493 *xorg-server-1.10.2-2.tar.bz2 b19b337d052cde107a2ec1bdd35e710e *xorg-server-dmx-1.10.2-2.tar.bz2 01c6c04d58fa005ecb5702db1c2dfe58 *xorg-server-1.10.2-2-src.tar.bz2 -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dano@columbia.edu Fri Jul 8 01:38:00 2011 From: dano@columbia.edu (Daniel Bienstock) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:38:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 Message-ID: On 7/7/2011 10:24 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: | Sounds like a case of BLODA to me. | | I looked at the BLODA list, and I don't believe I have any of *those* programs running on my machine. Is there a way I can identify the culprit? Thanks in advance. Dan -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Fri Jul 8 02:02:00 2011 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:02:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1310089129.6420.4.camel@YAAKOV04> On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 21:13 -0400, Daniel Bienstock wrote: > On 7/7/2011 10:24 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: > | Sounds like a case of BLODA to me. > | > | > > I looked at the BLODA list, and I don't believe I have any of *those* > programs running on my machine. Is there a way I can identify the > culprit? Thanks in advance. Windows Defender, a default component of Win7, is BLODA, so I'd start by permanently disabling the WinDefend service. (We should probably note that in BLODA itself.) Yaakov Cygwin/X -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dano@columbia.edu Fri Jul 8 08:19:00 2011 From: dano@columbia.edu (Daniel Bienstock) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 Message-ID: Turned off WinDefend, but problem continues. The Windows Task Manager shows a huge list of services running, like "Application Experience", which could be interfering. But I have no idea which are safe to turn off. I can send in a jpeg with that list, if that was helpful (and if the site accepts jpge attachments) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Jul 8 09:01:00 2011 From: danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com (Danilo Turina) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:01:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X + HP-UX 11.11 + italian keyboard = AltGr not working (solved/worked around) In-Reply-To: <4E15AED5.6090003@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E1419B6.5070209@alcatel-lucent.com> <4E146AF3.7010300@dronecode.org.uk> <4E147091.6090305@alcatel-lucent.com> <4E15AED5.6090003@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E16BD72.9020207@alcatel-lucent.com> On 07/07/2011 15.04, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 06/07/2011 15:26, Danilo Turina wrote: >> On 06/07/2011 16.02, Jon TURNEY wrote: >>> On 06/07/2011 09:15, Danilo Turina wrote: >>>> having recently replaced my old keyboard (that had a US layout) with an >>>> italian one, I'm having a problem with Cygwin X when running HP-UX clients: >>>> AltGr does not work and this prevents me to use characters like "[" "{" "}" >>>> "]", etc. >>>> >>>> I'm up to date with Cygwin and Cygwin X at the moment ("1.7.9(0.237/5/3) >>>> 2011-03-29 10:10 i686 Cygwin" for Cygwin and "1.10.2.0" for XWin). >>>> >>>> These are the steps to reproduce the problem: >>>> >>>> 1) start Cygwin X >>>> 2) disable access control ("xhost +") >>>> 3) access via telnet/ssh a HP-UX machine >>>> 4) open an xterm from the HP-UX machine in Cygwin X >>>> 5) in the newly opened xterm try to use AltGr (AltGr + "??" (i.e. the key >>>> at the right of "P"), should produce "{", while AltGr + Shift + "??" should >>>> produce "{") >>> >>> I'm missing here what is actually produced. Nothing? or the unmodified ??? >> >> The unmodified ?? (well, sort of, because when I press "??" on the keyboard I >> see on the terminal "I" (I think because of some other problem of the terminal >> with non-ASCII chars) and if I press AltGr+"??" I yet see "I", so it's just >> like pressing AltGr has no effect at all). >> >>> >>>> 6) fall on the floor crying in desperation >>> >>> This is perfectly normal for people having to deal with XKB :-) >>> >>>> Notice that when using a client from a Linux machine all works properly. >>>> >>>> A googled a lot and found a lot of information but only few of it applied >>>> (=helped) to my specific case. I tried to mess with xmodmap and kbd config >>>> files and also with other stuff, but nothing seemed to solve the problem. >>> >>> I think a solution is contained in this old mailing list post [1], use >>> XKB_DISABLE=1 and adjust the keyboard map so that AltGr is Mode_switch and the >>> keys have the expected mapping in group 2, activated via Mode_switch. >>> >>> Note that just reassigning AltGr to Mode_switch is not enough, you'll need to >>> remap appropriately the keys which generate different characters with AltGr >>> e.g. something like: >>> >>> xmodmap -e "clear mod5" >>> xmodmap -e "clear mod3" >>> xmodmap -e "keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key" >>> xmodmap -e "add mod3 = Mode_switch" >>> xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft" >>> (and so on for the other keys which need to generate different characters with >>> AltGr) >> >> I already encountered some like that while searching the internet but didn't >> work. >> I tried what you wrote here but didn't work either... > > Just to be clear, you probably have to do all this before you start the xterm > you are going to be working in. > > Can I see the xev output when you try that setup? > >> Is there anything that I can do to go deeper into the analysis of this >> problem? xev seems not of any help, since it returns the same results both for >> Xming where all works and Cygwin X where I have the problem. > > Yes, that's rather mystifying. > > You might consider using wireshark, xmon or xscope to examine the protocol > interactions between client and server (not sure if all of these can decode > XKB extension protocol) to see if there is any difference there. Fiddling aroung with Wireshark I was able to understand what the problem was and I had the confirm thanks to xmodmap. With Xming I had that keycode 34 ("??") is associated to egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft bracketleft braceleft while with CygwinX the association is egrave eacute egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft I don't know the exact meaning of each of the positions above, but with xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft bracketleft braceleft" I solved the problem. I then saw that that solves the problem even without setting XKB_DISABLE but only with some applications (e.g. with xterm works, with nedit you need XKB_DISABLE set). So just executing the xmodmap above for keycode 34, also within the same xterm on which I had the problem, without setting XKB_DISABLE and without doing anything else (so not resetting of the modifiers with 'xmodmap -e "clear mod5"', etc.), it works (but better setting XKB_DISABLE=1 in order to make all clients work). In short: export XKB_DISABLE=1 xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft bracketleft braceleft" xmodmap -e "keycode 35 = plus asterisk bracketright braceright bracketright braceright" xmodmap -e "keycode 48 = agrave degree numbersign dead_abovering numbersign dead_abovering numbersign dead_abovering" xmodmap -e "keycode 47 = ograve ccedilla at dead_cedilla at dead_cedilla at dead_cedilla ograve ccedilla at dead_cedilla" does the job (with the above I just fix the four keys needed to get "[", "{", "]", "}", "@" and "#", probably others are missing, like AltGr+E for the Euro sign, but I don't use them within HP-UX so no problem for me). WARNING WARNING WARNING: I wrote the above xmodmap statements by getting their values from "xmodmap -pk" and replacing the 3rd and 4th values with the 5th and 6th values, so I don't know whether they can cause problems in other contexts. I hope that somebody that better knows xmodmap (and the like) could confirm the correctness of the above (that anyway for me works, so I have no problems at all now). I don't know whether this is a symptom of a wrong keymap on the Cygwin X side or is a problem on HP-UX, but I don't really care at this point. Thank you very much for the support and the precious hints. Ciao, Danilo P.S. If I had looked more carefully at "xmodmap -pk" output at the beginning, I would have discovered the problem early and I would have avoided all of this researching and trying. > > It seems that XKB_DISABLE is checked for inside libX11 (at least since R6.6, > the oldest version in freedesktop.org git), so you might want to identify what > version is on your HP-UX host and try to understand how it behaves. It might > also be worthwhile to look forward in the version history to see if there's > been a fix made for this behavior? > > Lastly, I notice that HP-UX 11.11 is apparently still in support, so you might > actually ask HP to fix it :-) > -- DANILO TURINA ALCATEL-LUCENT Software Analyst NM System Team Network-Optics Rieti (Italy) Phone: +39 0746 600332 10 anni 2 mesi 28 giorni 23 ore 57 minuti 8 secondi -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From rcsaba@gmail.com Sat Jul 9 00:59:00 2011 From: rcsaba@gmail.com (Csaba Raduly) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 00:59:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Daniel, On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: > The Windows Task Manager shows a huge list of services running, like > "Application Experience", which could be interfering. ?But I have no idea > which are safe to turn off. ?I can send in a jpeg with that list, if that > was helpful (and if the site accepts jpge attachments) If you can, download Process Explorer from Sysinternals (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653). That one allows you to save a list of processes to a text file (File->Save) Csaba -- GCS a+ e++ d- C++ ULS$ L+$ !E- W++ P+++$ w++$ tv+ b++ DI D++ 5++ The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers. Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts. "Ok, it boots. Which means it must be bug-free and perfect. " -- Linus Torvalds "People disagree with me. I just ignore them." -- Linus Torvalds -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dano@columbia.edu Sun Jul 10 18:36:00 2011 From: dano@columbia.edu (Daniel Bienstock) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:36:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 Message-ID: ok, here's the list generated by process explorer: Process PID CPU Private Bytes Working Set Description Company Name System Idle Process 0 96.68 0 K 24 K System 4 0.22 152 K 3,940 K Interrupts n/a 0.39 0 K 0 K Hardware Interrupts and DPCs smss.exe 348 744 K 1,400 K csrss.exe 464 2,632 K 4,736 K conhost.exe 1596 1,460 K 3,048 K wininit.exe 520 2,080 K 4,844 K services.exe 584 5,904 K 9,592 K svchost.exe 716 5,816 K 10,888 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation unsecapp.exe 2472 2,464 K 5,728 K WmiPrvSE.exe 2596 15,172 K 22,024 K WmiPrvSE.exe 2932 7,100 K 12,444 K unsecapp.exe 2228 2,868 K 6,348 K Sink to receive asynchronous callbacks for WMI client application Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 828 5,180 K 8,880 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation atiesrxx.exe 912 2,344 K 4,940 K AMD External Events Service Module AMD atieclxx.exe 1448 3,580 K 7,464 K svchost.exe 956 19,808 K 20,136 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation audiodg.exe 160 17,168 K 16,852 K svchost.exe 1004 12,780 K 21,020 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation WUDFHost.exe 1224 2,272 K 5,360 K wlanext.exe 1588 10,928 K 18,932 K dwm.exe 3324 0.38 32,176 K 30,088 K Desktop Window Manager Microsoft Corporation WUDFHost.exe 936 2,624 K 6,704 K svchost.exe 136 < 0.01 39,028 K 47,336 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation wuauclt.exe 4672 0.11 4,044 K 10,440 K Windows Update Microsoft Corporation stacsv64.exe 380 < 0.01 7,080 K 7,548 K IDT PC Audio IDT, Inc. svchost.exe 1120 7,036 K 11,524 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1340 < 0.01 25,532 K 29,080 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation EvtEng.exe 1416 13,452 K 21,140 K Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Event Log Service Intel(R) Corporation ZCfgSvc7.exe 1580 10,552 K 17,744 K Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Zero Config Service Intel(R) Corporation spoolsv.exe 1736 8,004 K 13,076 K Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation HostControlService.exe 1772 3,448 K 5,556 K Host Control Application Broadcom Corporation HostStorageService.exe 1812 2,524 K 4,932 K Host Storage Application Broadcom Corporation svchost.exe 1880 6,276 K 11,256 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1940 < 0.01 13,032 K 14,964 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation TdmService.exe 1964 4,788 K 11,372 K TDM Service Wave Systems Corp. AESTSr64.exe 1664 1,904 K 3,468 K Andrea filters APO access service (64-bit) Andrea Electronics Corporation DCPSysMgrSvc.exe 1904 4,376 K 11,144 K Dell - System Manager Service Dell Inc. IPROSetMonitor.exe 1888 2,272 K 4,812 K Intel?? PROSet Monitoring Service Intel Corporation jhi_service.exe 2088 1,412 K 4,380 K Intel IPT Host Interface Service Intel Corporation o2flash.exe 2192 1,136 K 3,472 K O2 Flash Memory Service O2Micro International srvany.exe 2240 960 K 3,088 K SDIOAssist.exe 2272 < 0.01 2,704 K 5,240 K RegSrvc.exe 2304 3,248 K 7,280 K Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Registry Service Intel(R) Corporation SeaPort.exe 2328 4,680 K 8,136 K Microsoft SeaPort Search Enhancement Broker Microsoft Corporation WLIDSVC.EXE 2424 6,164 K 12,460 K WLIDSVCM.EXE 2652 2,116 K 4,000 K SearchIndexer.exe 2788 < 0.01 36,708 K 22,396 K Microsoft Windows Search Indexer Microsoft Corporation SearchFilterHost.exe 4580 4,000 K 7,572 K SearchProtocolHost.exe 4616 < 0.01 4,624 K 9,056 K taskhost.exe 3196 3,900 K 6,920 K Host Process for Windows Tasks Microsoft Corporation IAStorDataMgrSvc.exe 3776 0.01 20,756 K 16,044 K IAStorDataSvc Intel Corporation LMS.exe 4052 < 0.01 3,308 K 5,756 K Local Manageability Service Intel Corporation sppsvc.exe 2872 3,076 K 8,476 K Microsoft Software Protection Platform Service Microsoft Corporation UNS.exe 568 < 0.01 7,596 K 13,168 K User Notification Service Intel Corporation TrustedInstaller.exe 4152 19,008 K 26,180 K Windows Modules Installer Microsoft Corporation VSSVC.exe 4212 11,156 K 16,636 K Microsoft?? Volume Shadow Copy Service Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 4244 2,184 K 5,532 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation lsass.exe 600 6,968 K 14,204 K Local Security Authority Process Microsoft Corporation lsm.exe 608 3,212 K 4,852 K csrss.exe 540 0.20 3,180 K 6,092 K conhost.exe 2108 2,364 K 5,348 K Console Window Host Microsoft Corporation conhost.exe 4508 4,176 K 7,696 K Console Window Host Microsoft Corporation winlogon.exe 808 3,884 K 7,836 K upeksvr.exe 1728 5,972 K 13,972 K explorer.exe 3380 0.07 37,408 K 54,056 K Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation Apoint.exe 3568 0.10 4,736 K 10,952 K Alps Pointing-device Driver Alps Electric Co., Ltd. ApMsgFwd.exe 1852 0.08 3,816 K 6,892 K hidfind.exe 672 2,740 K 5,396 K Alps Pointing-device Driver Alps Electric Co., Ltd. sttray64.exe 3576 10,016 K 19,956 K IDT PC Audio IDT, Inc. iFrmewrk.exe 3584 11,068 K 21,460 K Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Framework Intel(R) Corporation FF_Protection.exe 3596 0.02 2,656 K 7,120 K FF_Protection MFC Application DCPSysMgr.exe 3668 9,128 K 11,288 K Dell System Manager Dell Inc. cmd.exe 4500 2,672 K 3,432 K Windows Command Processor Microsoft Corporation procexp.exe 4848 2,304 K 5,668 K Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com procexp64.exe 4856 1.36 28,648 K 44,668 K Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com IAStorIcon.exe 3944 < 0.01 24,832 K 22,808 K IAStorIcon Intel Corporation PDVD9Serv.exe 3972 1,748 K 5,636 K PowerDVD RC Service CyberLink Corp. ApntEx.exe 2496 0.35 3,456 K 6,400 K Alps Pointing-device Driver for Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista Alps Electric Co., Ltd. PrivacyIconClient.exe 3864 77,396 K 21,672 K Intel(R) Management and Security Status Intel Corporation Thanks! Daniel Bienstock -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From arielmt@thornton2.com Tue Jul 12 08:11:00 2011 From: arielmt@thornton2.com (Ariel Millennium Thornton) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:11:00 -0000 Subject: NT4? In-Reply-To: <4E106633.60804@dronecode.org.uk> References: <20110331203416.GB2606@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E106633.60804@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <20110710183604.GA13436@thornton2.com> On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 01:53:07PM +0100, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 01/04/2011 07:07, Andy Koppe wrote: > > On 31 March 2011 21:34, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >> Is anybody here still using Cygwin on Windows NT4 on a daily basis? I'm > >> asking because we're planning to drop NT4 support entirely and I would > >> like to know if there are lots of people who would be very sad if that > >> happens. > > > > FWIW, NT4 support in mintty has been broken since version 0.6.1 a year > > ago, and nobody reported it until Corinna stumbled across it in NT4 > > testing a few days ago. > > fwiw, I thought that I might have broken XWin on NT4 recently. > > On checking, I discovered that XWin has been broken on NT4 without anyone > complaining since at least 1.6.3-1, released 2009-09-06. The > VerSetConditionMask() API we use to check we aren't running on Windows 2000 > isn't available on NT4. :-). Also it looks like multiwindow mode has probably > not worked correctly for longer. > > > Microsoft stopped supporting NT4 in 2004. > That would explain why I've never been able to get much of anything modern running on my NT4 system. This news sucks because it's the fastest-booting Windows system I have, despite running on a P2 with speed and RAM laughable by today's standards. I never complained because I never bothered to check what exactly was breaking. -ArielMT -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jan.chludzinski@gmail.com Tue Jul 12 21:16:00 2011 From: jan.chludzinski@gmail.com (Jan Chludzinski) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:16:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting XWin Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just did a complete installation of X11 from Cygwin 1.7 setup.exe. But when I try to start the "XWin Server" using the "Start" menu nothing happens. ?If I try either "startxwin" or "startx" or "xinit" from the BASH shell I get: giving up. startxwin: ?No such file or directory (errno 2): ?unable to connect to X server startxwin: ?No such process (errno 3): ?Server error. Any suggestions? ---John -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cygcheck.out Type: application/octet-stream Size: 243477 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XWin.0.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4158 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From apokluda@gmail.com Wed Jul 13 12:21:00 2011 From: apokluda@gmail.com (Alexander Pokluda) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:21:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to start session using XDMCP Message-ID: I have run into a problem again where I am unable to start a session using XDMCP. I am trying to connect to multiple remote machines running CentOS 5.5 using XWin 1.10.2. When I run the command xwin -nodecoration +xinerama -screen 0 @1 -screen 1 @2 -from 10.3.12.47 -query 10.3.147.22 I get two black windows (with no titlebars) that do nothing for a while and then eventually close and reopen. If I watch what's happening using Wireshark, I see Local Machine Remote Machine --------------- --------------- Query Willing Request Accept Manage Manage Manage (many more times) If I look in the XWin log, I see [...] [719987.046] XDM: too many retransmissions, declaring session dead [...] (the full log is pasted below). Oddly, for some remote machines, I occasionally see this behaviour while most of the time it works but for others, I seem to get this behaviour all the time and it never seems to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ------ Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 1.10.2.0 OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 [Windows NT 6.1 build 7601] (WoW64) Package: version 1.10.2-2 built 2011-07-07 XWin was started with the following command line: xwin -nodecoration +xinerama -screen 0 @1 -screen 1 @2 -from 10.3.12.47 -query 10.3.147.22 ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeScreenDefaults - primary monitor w 1680 h 1050 winInitializeDefaultScreens - native DPI x 96 y 96 winInitializeScreens - 1 winInitializeScreen - 0 ddxProcessArgument - screen - Found Valid ``@Monitor'' = 1 arg winInitializeScreens - 2 winInitializeScreen - 1 ddxProcessArgument - screen - Found Valid ``@Monitor'' = 2 arg [719859.484] (II) xorg.conf is not supported [719859.484] (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information [719859.484] LoadPreferences: /cygdrive/c/Users/alpokluda/.XWinrc not found [719859.484] LoadPreferences: Loading /etc/X11/system.XWinrc [719859.484] LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... [719859.515] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed, allowing ShadowDD [719859.515] winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT, allowing PrimaryDD [719859.515] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed, allowing ShadowDDNL [719859.562] winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f [719859.562] winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking [719859.562] winScreenInit - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel [719859.749] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff [719859.749] Screen 0 added at virtual desktop coordinate (1680,0). [719859.749] winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking [719859.749] winScreenInit - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel [719859.905] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff [719859.905] Screen 1 added at virtual desktop coordinate (0,0). [719859.905] MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support [719859.921] XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel [719859.952] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so [719859.952] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 [719859.952] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so [719859.952] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 1 [719859.967] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! [719859.967] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, removing from list! [719859.967] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! [719860.342] winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 754 525 [719860.342] (--) 3 mouse buttons found [719860.342] (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 [719860.342] (--) Windows keyboard layout: "00010409" (00010409) "United States-Dvorak", type 4 [719860.342] (--) Found matching XKB configuration "English (USA,Dvorak)" [719860.342] (--) Model = "pc105" Layout = "dvorak" Variant = "none" Options = "none" [719860.342] Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "dvorak" Variant = "none" Options = "none" [719860.654] winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock() [719860.654] winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock() [719987.046] XDM: too many retransmissions, declaring session dead [719987.202] 6 XSELINUXs still allocated at reset [719987.217] SCREEN: 0 objects of 92 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] DEVICE: 4 objects of 28 bytes = 112 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CLIENT: 0 objects of 148 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] WINDOW: 0 objects of 60 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] PIXMAP: 2 objects of 28 bytes = 56 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] GC: 0 objects of 64 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CURSOR: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CURSOR_BITS: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] TOTAL: 6 objects, 168 bytes, 0 allocs [719987.217] 4 DEVICEs still allocated at reset [719987.217] DEVICE: 4 objects of 28 bytes = 112 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CLIENT: 0 objects of 148 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] WINDOW: 0 objects of 60 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] PIXMAP: 2 objects of 28 bytes = 56 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] GC: 0 objects of 64 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CURSOR: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CURSOR_BITS: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] TOTAL: 6 objects, 168 bytes, 0 allocs [719987.217] 2 PIXMAPs still allocated at reset [719987.217] PIXMAP: 2 objects of 28 bytes = 56 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] GC: 0 objects of 64 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CURSOR: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] CURSOR_BITS: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [719987.217] TOTAL: 2 objects, 56 bytes, 0 allocs [719987.217] (II) xorg.conf is not supported [719987.217] (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information [719987.217] LoadPreferences: /cygdrive/c/Users/alpokluda/.XWinrc not found [719987.217] LoadPreferences: Loading /etc/X11/system.XWinrc [719987.217] LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... [719987.249] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed, allowing ShadowDD [719987.249] winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT, allowing PrimaryDD [719987.249] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed, allowing ShadowDDNL [719987.280] winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f [719987.280] winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking [719987.280] winScreenInit - Using command line depth of 32 bpp [719987.483] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff [719987.483] Screen 0 added at virtual desktop coordinate (1680,0). [719987.483] winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking [719987.483] winScreenInit - Using command line depth of 32 bpp [719987.529] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff [719987.529] Screen 1 added at virtual desktop coordinate (0,0). [719987.529] MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support [719987.529] XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel [719987.576] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so [719987.576] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 [719987.576] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so [719987.576] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 1 [719987.576] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! [719987.576] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, removing from list! [719987.576] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! [719987.919] (--) 3 mouse buttons found [719987.919] (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 [719987.919] (--) Windows keyboard layout: "00010409" (00010409) "United States-Dvorak", type 4 [719987.919] (--) Found matching XKB configuration "English (USA,Dvorak)" [719987.919] (--) Model = "pc105" Layout = "dvorak" Variant = "none" Options = "none" [719987.919] Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "dvorak" Variant = "none" Options = "none" [719988.247] winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock() [719988.247] winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock() [719991.804] winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jul 13 12:30:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:30:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting XWin Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E1D8DBA.2040409@dronecode.org.uk> On 12/07/2011 09:10, Jan Chludzinski wrote: > I just did a complete installation of X11 from Cygwin 1.7 setup.exe. > But when I try to start the "XWin Server" using the "Start" menu > nothing happens. If I try either "startxwin" or "startx" or "xinit" > from the BASH shell I get: > > giving up. > startxwin: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server > startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > Any suggestions? Looking at the XWin.0.log you attached, it looks like the X server is starting up successfully. If clients are unable to connect, this might be due to firewall configuration or other software which interferes with cygwin sockets (see [1] in the Cygwin/X FAQ for some suggestions) [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-cannot-open-display -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Thu Jul 14 09:30:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:30:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to start session using XDMCP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E1D8FA4.5010800@dronecode.org.uk> On 12/07/2011 22:15, Alexander Pokluda wrote: > I have run into a problem again where I am unable to start a session > using XDMCP. I am trying to connect to multiple remote machines > running CentOS 5.5 using XWin 1.10.2. > > When I run the command > > xwin -nodecoration +xinerama -screen 0 @1 -screen 1 @2 -from > 10.3.12.47 -query 10.3.147.22 > > I get two black windows (with no titlebars) that do nothing for a > while and then eventually close and reopen. If I watch what's > happening using Wireshark, I see > > Local Machine Remote Machine > --------------- --------------- > Query > Willing > Request > Accept > Manage > Manage > Manage > (many more times) This seems slightly different to that failures you were seeing before, where the Request packet did not arrive at the destination (although the reason for that was never clear) Can you send me the corresponding .pcap file, please. > If I look in the XWin log, I see > > [...] > [719987.046] XDM: too many retransmissions, declaring session dead > [...] > > (the full log is pasted below). Oddly, for some remote machines, I > occasionally see this behaviour while most of the time it works but > for others, I seem to get this behaviour all the time and it never > seems to work. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. This seemed to be working for you back in March (see [1]), so I guess the important question is "what has changed?" [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2011-03/msg00011.html -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jan.chludzinski@gmail.com Thu Jul 14 14:11:00 2011 From: jan.chludzinski@gmail.com (Jan Chludzinski) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:11:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting XWin Server In-Reply-To: <4E1D8DBA.2040409@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E1D8DBA.2040409@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: First, THANKS! $ startxwin giving up. startxwin: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server error. The server is never started - no process in the Windows "Resource Monitor". When I try to start xedit (or whatever X based app) nothing happens, nothing appears. As for FAQ, I'm afraid I don't see anything that might help. I looked before I posted the original e-mail. ---John On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 12/07/2011 09:10, Jan Chludzinski wrote: >> I just did a complete installation of X11 from Cygwin 1.7 setup.exe. >> But when I try to start the "XWin Server" using the "Start" menu >> nothing happens. ?If I try either "startxwin" or "startx" or "xinit" >> from the BASH shell I get: >> >> giving up. >> startxwin: ?No such file or directory (errno 2): ?unable to connect to X server >> startxwin: ?No such process (errno 3): ?Server error. >> >> Any suggestions? > > Looking at the XWin.0.log you attached, it looks like the X server is starting > up successfully. > > If clients are unable to connect, this might be due to firewall configuration > or other software which interferes with cygwin sockets (see [1] in the > Cygwin/X FAQ for some suggestions) > > [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-cannot-open-display > > -- > Jon TURNEY > Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From gulliver.m.smith@gmail.com Tue Jul 19 14:39:00 2011 From: gulliver.m.smith@gmail.com (Gulliver.M.Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:39:00 -0000 Subject: (X)Emacs Window Manager commands Message-ID: <32061544.post@talk.nabble.com> A web search shows that this has been asked before, but I thought I'd put it out there again. When using Cygwin X in multi-window mode (i.e. with each X window being its own MS Windows window), the window manager ignores the window manager requests from Emacs and XEmacs to raise and lower windows, minimize and reopen windows (frames in Emacs talk). These would be nice to have ... -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/%28X%29Emacs-Window-Manager-commands-tp32061544p32061544.html Sent from the cygwin-xfree mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Tue Jul 19 14:58:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:58:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 Message-ID: The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 These packages contain XWin and the other X.Org X11 servers. In addition to upstream fixes [1], the following cygwin-specific changes have been made since 1.10.2-2: * On Windows 7, use new taskbar APIs so X windows are grouped on the taskbar more correctly (Thanks to Tobias H??u??ler) f35bbc4484aeba21b9e1a4b08dd41bb4 *xorg-server-1.10.3-1.tar.bz2 b194b41ea11ee505e37c90c60846b687 *xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1.tar.bz2 8f381962a2e478d782ee37eda38477f3 *xorg-server-1.10.3-1-src.tar.bz2 [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-announce/2011-July/001710.html -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Tue Jul 19 15:17:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:17:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X + HP-UX 11.11 + italian keyboard = AltGr not working (solved/worked around) In-Reply-To: <4E16BD72.9020207@alcatel-lucent.com> References: <4E1419B6.5070209@alcatel-lucent.com> <4E146AF3.7010300@dronecode.org.uk> <4E147091.6090305@alcatel-lucent.com> <4E15AED5.6090003@dronecode.org.uk> <4E16BD72.9020207@alcatel-lucent.com> Message-ID: <4E259B9B.10700@dronecode.org.uk> Thanks very much for posting your work around. On 08/07/2011 09:18, Danilo Turina wrote: > Fiddling aroung with Wireshark I was able to understand what the problem was > and I had the confirm thanks to xmodmap. > > With Xming I had that keycode 34 ("??") is associated to > > egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft bracketleft braceleft > > while with CygwinX the association is > > egrave eacute egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft > > I don't know the exact meaning of each of the positions above, but with This is (sort of) explained in 'man xmodmap' > The list of keysyms is assigned to the indicated keycode (which may be specified in decimal, > hex or octal and can be determined by running the xev program). Up to eight keysyms may be > attached to a key, however the last four are not used in any major X server implementation. > The first keysym is used when no modifier key is pressed in conjunction with this key, the > second with Shift, the third when the Mode_switch key is used with this key and the fourth > when both the Mode_switch and Shift keys are used. However, you have to remember that what you see with xmodmap isn't the real XKB keymap, but a compatibility xmodmap invented by XKB for clients which don't know about XKB. > xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft bracketleft > braceleft" > > I solved the problem. > I then saw that that solves the problem even without setting XKB_DISABLE but > only with some applications (e.g. with xterm works, with nedit you need > XKB_DISABLE set). > > So just executing the xmodmap above for keycode 34, also within the same xterm > on which I had the problem, without setting XKB_DISABLE and without doing > anything else (so not resetting of the modifiers with 'xmodmap -e "clear > mod5"', etc.), it works (but better setting XKB_DISABLE=1 in order to make all > clients work). > > In short: > > export XKB_DISABLE=1 > xmodmap -e "keycode 34 = egrave eacute bracketleft braceleft bracketleft > braceleft" > xmodmap -e "keycode 35 = plus asterisk bracketright braceright bracketright > braceright" > xmodmap -e "keycode 48 = agrave degree numbersign dead_abovering numbersign > dead_abovering numbersign dead_abovering" > xmodmap -e "keycode 47 = ograve ccedilla at dead_cedilla at dead_cedilla at > dead_cedilla ograve ccedilla at dead_cedilla" > > does the job (with the above I just fix the four keys needed to get "[", "{", > "]", "}", "@" and "#", probably others are missing, like AltGr+E for the Euro > sign, but I don't use them within HP-UX so no problem for me). > > WARNING WARNING WARNING: I wrote the above xmodmap statements by getting their > values from "xmodmap -pk" and replacing the 3rd and 4th values with the 5th > and 6th values, so I don't know whether they can cause problems in other > contexts. I hope that somebody that better knows xmodmap (and the like) could > confirm the correctness of the above (that anyway for me works, so I have no > problems at all now). > > I don't know whether this is a symptom of a wrong keymap on the Cygwin X side > or is a problem on HP-UX, but I don't really care at this point. Fair enough. I wish I understood what was going on here better so I could improve what Cygwin/X FAQ 5.1.8 [1] says. [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#alt-gr-with-old-x > > Thank you very much for the support and the precious hints. > Ciao, > Danilo > > P.S. If I had looked more carefully at "xmodmap -pk" output at the beginning, > I would have discovered the problem early and I would have avoided all of this > researching and trying. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Tue Jul 19 15:31:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:31:00 -0000 Subject: Taskbar grouping in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4E0E303B.9000802@gmx.de> References: <4E05D930.6090305@gmx.de> <4E0B27DA.20701@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0E303B.9000802@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4E259FF7.5060804@dronecode.org.uk> On 01/07/2011 21:38, Tobias H??u??ler wrote: > On 29/06/2011 15:25, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> On 25/06/2011 13:48, Tobias H??u??ler wrote: >>> I created a small patch for XWin that adds correct grouping of taskbar >>> icons when 'Always combine, hide labels' is set in the taskbar >>> properties. It uses the new taskbar APIs introduced in Windows 7 to set >>> an application id for each window. The id is based on the X11 class hints. >>> Maybe it is useful for someone... >> >> Firstly, thanks very much for this patch. >> >> Getting Windows to correctly group XWin windows on the taskbar is something >> that has needed fixing for a while, so it's great to have it done :-) > > Thanks for your suggestions! I changed the code you mentioned. Thanks. I've included this patch into the 1.10.3-1 package. I noticed that there are a couple of warnings issued when building > CC winmultiwindowwm.o > In file included from winmultiwindowwm.c:69:0: > taskbar.h:59:19: warning: ??IID_IPropertyStore?? initialized and declared ??extern?? > taskbar.h:67:53: warning: ??PKEY_AppUserModel_ID?? initialized and declared ??extern?? This seems to be related to the nonsense that is INITGUID. I'm not sure how to fix this warning. Would moving all the GUIDs we use (including the DirectX ones we use) to a separate file and compiling that with INITGUID defined be the correct solution? The other thing I noticed is that PropVariantClear() has been provided by ole32.dll since at least NT4, so there's no need to dynamically link with it. So I'm confused as to why you are using GetProcAddress for that? -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Tue Jul 19 16:15:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:15:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting XWin Server In-Reply-To: References: <4E1D8DBA.2040409@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E25A34D.8070003@dronecode.org.uk> On 14/07/2011 10:29, Jan Chludzinski wrote: > First, THANKS! > > $ startxwin > giving up. > startxwin: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to > connect to X server > startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Sorry, I hadn't quite grasped that is the whole of the output. For obscure technical reasons, the output of XWin doesn't appear in a cmd.exe terminal if cygwin wasn't started with CYGWIN=tty. Can I suggest you install mintty, and try running startxwin from that, which should produce some more informative output. It looks like Cygwin/X FAQ 2.4 could do with some improvement :-) > The server is never started - no process in the Windows "Resource > Monitor". When I try to start xedit (or whatever X based app) nothing > happens, nothing appears. > > As for FAQ, I'm afraid I don't see anything that might help. I looked > before I posted the original e-mail. > > ---John > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> On 12/07/2011 09:10, Jan Chludzinski wrote: >>> I just did a complete installation of X11 from Cygwin 1.7 setup.exe. >>> But when I try to start the "XWin Server" using the "Start" menu >>> nothing happens. If I try either "startxwin" or "startx" or "xinit" >>> from the BASH shell I get: >>> >>> giving up. >>> startxwin: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server >>> startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server error. >>> >>> Any suggestions? >> >> Looking at the XWin.0.log you attached, it looks like the X server is starting >> up successfully. >> >> If clients are unable to connect, this might be due to firewall configuration >> or other software which interferes with cygwin sockets (see [1] in the >> Cygwin/X FAQ for some suggestions) >> >> [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-cannot-open-display -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Tue Jul 19 17:17:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:17:00 -0000 Subject: (X)Emacs Window Manager commands In-Reply-To: <32061544.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <32061544.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4E25ADB5.3040302@dronecode.org.uk> On 14/07/2011 15:10, Gulliver.M.Smith wrote: > A web search shows that this has been asked before, but I thought I'd put it > out there again. > > When using Cygwin X in multi-window mode (i.e. with each X window being its > own MS Windows window), the window manager ignores the window manager > requests from Emacs and XEmacs to raise and lower windows, minimize and > reopen windows (frames in Emacs talk). I'm afraid that the multiwindow window manager has never fully implemented EWMH and ICCCM standards, support has been added ad hoc as needed, so that is probably why this doesn't work. > These would be nice to have ... I've no idea how to make emacs generate these window manager requests, so you can help by describing that. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From moss@cs.umass.edu Wed Jul 20 02:26:00 2011 From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 02:26:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E25BC0D.1070404@cs.umass.edu> On 7/19/2011 10:24 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: > The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: > > *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 > *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 ... > * On Windows 7, use new taskbar APIs so X windows are grouped on the taskbar > more correctly (Thanks to Tobias H??u??ler) I have a wondering about whether this accomplishes something I have been desiring ... apparently not, but perhaps I have simply not set things up right. - I start XWin via run.exe invoking a startxwin.bat file. This avoid a needless console window. - I have created a Windows shortcut for this, and given it the XWin.exe icon by pointing the shortcut's icon selection to XWin.exe. - I get a *separate* instance of the XWin icon when XWin starts up, that is, separate from the run.exe one. What I would *like* is for the running instance of XWin.exe to be considered as "having the same icon", so that I don't get two instances, one for the run.exe shortcut and another for the running XWin. Is there another/better way I can arrange this? Regards -- Eliot Moss -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin@tlinx.org Wed Jul 20 04:57:00 2011 From: cygwin@tlinx.org (Linda Walsh) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:57:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E263CAE.50005@tlinx.org> Jon TURNEY wrote: > The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: > > *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 > *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 ---- How can I install 'just' those packages (from the command line).... The GUI has no option to only install 1 package -- it selects ALL, (100's of my packages want updates, but when I tried I tried it last, I ended up with a completely non-function cygwin setup (no bash, nada..., thank goddess I had a backup...) So now now, I tried going through and unselecting, but there were too many and my wrists gave out.....and of course the GUI has not KB-accelerators like shift-minus to unselect all, that I could find. Any easy way to cherry pick packages to install rather than being forced fed entire updates all at once? the cmd line 'setup' claims to allow you to install, one package, but then it went through the whole gui process and still had all the other default packages installed!.... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Wed Jul 20 05:11:00 2011 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:11:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: <4E263CAE.50005@tlinx.org> References: <4E263CAE.50005@tlinx.org> Message-ID: <20110720045717.GA28531@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 07:25:50PM -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: >Jon TURNEY wrote: > >> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: >> >> *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 >> *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 > >---- > How can I install 'just' those packages (from the command >line).... > > The GUI has no option to only install 1 package -- >it selects ALL, (100's of my packages want updates, but when I tried I >tried it last, I ended up with a completely non-function cygwin setup >(no bash, nada..., thank goddess I had a backup...) > > So now now, I tried going through and unselecting, but there >were too many and my wrists gave out.....and of course the GUI has >not KB-accelerators like shift-minus to unselect all, that I could find. > > Any easy way to cherry pick packages to install rather than being >forced fed entire updates all at once? > >the cmd line 'setup' claims to allow you to install, one package, but >then it went through the whole gui process and still had all the other >default packages installed!.... If you ran setup.exe and it deleted bash then there is something very seriously wrong with either your system or setup.exe. I know where my money would go if I was betting on which of the above was more likely. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin@tlinx.org Wed Jul 20 05:16:00 2011 From: cygwin@tlinx.org (Linda Walsh) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: X on win 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E266378.40301@tlinx.org> Daniel Bienstock wrote: > Hello, > > I have a new Dell Dimension M6600 with Windows 7 SP 1. I have disabled > the Windows firewall and added rules to allow programs in cygwin and > cygwin\bin to run. > > I am using cygwin 1.7.9 (I also use older cygwins on many 32-bit > Windows machines). > > On this machine, X runs badly: often very slowly, and frequently with > crashes as well. A couple of times I was forced to reboot the machine > -- Windows appeared unresponsive. > > I did try rebaseall, but did not help (in fact had to reinstall cygwin). > > I have seen some posts on this topic, but no definitive workaround. --- This may be entire unhelpful, but is mentioned as a datapoint only, I have X on Win7 working with cygwin 1.4.2-1 and xorg-server 1.8.0-1 xorg-server-dmx 1.8.0-.1 (and lots of other packages from that era I tried upgrading to latest, and nothing worked. No bash, No X, -- rebase died didn't solve anything .. I reverted as didn't have the time to track down all the problems of such a large update. I'd like to try updating packages 1-by-1, but that's not easily supported through setup (it selects all, and there's no way to unselect the 100+ updates except by repetitious mouse clicks (keyboard accel's didn't function). My wrists warned me to quit. Dunno wazzup w/newer versions as I'm sure many use them with no difficulties, BUT, the version I have now works with what I currently have installed (BLODA, though I don't think I have anything that falls into that category, given it's "precise definition", it's hard to tell from day-to-day). So things keep changing in both Win7, and cygwin, (and my server, that I upgraded to a changed samba(3.6) hasn't done me any favors in tracking down all my little nuisances.... Note, it's generally the cyg-support way to blame things on the user or tell them they can use the source and fix it themselves. Tried that 3 times, insufficiently documented and/or included too many assumptions about user's environment for me to replicate. (Doesn't mean I won't try again some day, but fixing my samba server handing out Domain GUID's is higher prio -- as is writing my script to create auto-snap-shots of my home-dir on linux with LSM and rsynch that are mounted w/samba so as to show up as "previous versions" of changed files.... (and of course, those tasks are always getting interrupted as well... nested so damn deep, I've my overflow counter has wrapped. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin@tlinx.org Wed Jul 20 15:00:00 2011 From: cygwin@tlinx.org (Linda Walsh) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: <20110720045717.GA28531@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> References: <4E263CAE.50005@tlinx.org> <20110720045717.GA28531@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <4E26648C.2000608@tlinx.org> Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 07:25:50PM -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: >> Jon TURNEY wrote: >> >>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: >>> >>> *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 >>> *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 >> ---- >> How can I install 'just' those packages (from the command >> line).... >> >> The GUI has no option to only install 1 package -- >> it selects ALL, (100's of my packages want updates, but when I tried I >> tried it last, I ended up with a completely non-function cygwin setup >> (no bash, nada..., thank goddess I had a backup...) >> >> So now now, I tried going through and unselecting, but there >> were too many and my wrists gave out.....and of course the GUI has >> not KB-accelerators like shift-minus to unselect all, that I could find. >> >> Any easy way to cherry pick packages to install rather than being >> forced fed entire updates all at once? >> >> the cmd line 'setup' claims to allow you to install, one package, but >> then it went through the whole gui process and still had all the other >> default packages installed!.... > > If you ran setup.exe and it deleted bash then there is something very > seriously wrong with either your system or setup.exe. > > I know where my money would go if I was betting on which of the above > was more likely. --- Didn't delete it... it was all non-functional....bash, everything dumped core or stacktraced -- symptoms of needing a rebase, but that didn't fix everything. .. Got bash to run but then still no X, and bash wouldn't run under 'Console' (only under native win cmd-like shell). You wanna put money on fault? Gee, Console worked w/old bash, installed, new bash, no longer works -- what changed? X used to work, update? Not. Fault? I wasn't pointing finger, BTW, I know my config isn't standard...BUT...that doesn't mean an update should through everything into chaos... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jul 20 15:28:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:28:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to start session using XDMCP In-Reply-To: References: <4E1D8FA4.5010800@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E26ED4D.1010703@dronecode.org.uk> On 13/07/2011 15:04, Alexander Pokluda wrote: > I have attached two packet captures. In the first file, it appears > that the remote GDM stops responding after sending the accept packet > but the capture in the second file was taken immediately after the > first capture and restarting XWin. Looking at those packet captures, I can't see anything that XWin is doing wrong. So I can only offer generic advice: Are the Manage requests arriving at and being accepted by the remote host? > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> On 12/07/2011 22:15, Alexander Pokluda wrote: >>> I have run into a problem again where I am unable to start a session >>> using XDMCP. I am trying to connect to multiple remote machines >>> running CentOS 5.5 using XWin 1.10.2. [snip] >> >> This seemed to be working for you back in March (see [1]), so I guess the >> important question is "what has changed?" >> >> [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2011-03/msg00011.html -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jul 20 15:58:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:58:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: <4E25BC0D.1070404@cs.umass.edu> References: <4E25BC0D.1070404@cs.umass.edu> Message-ID: <4E26F420.5090508@dronecode.org.uk> On 19/07/2011 18:17, Eliot Moss wrote: > On 7/19/2011 10:24 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: >> >> *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 >> *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 > > ... > >> * On Windows 7, use new taskbar APIs so X windows are grouped on the taskbar >> more correctly (Thanks to Tobias H??u??ler) My apologies, this should have mentioned multiwindow mode i.e. "X windows are grouped on the taskbar more correctly in multiwindow mode" > I have a wondering about whether this accomplishes something I > have been desiring ... apparently not, but perhaps I have simply > not set things up right. > > - I start XWin via run.exe invoking a startxwin.bat file. This avoid a > needless console window. > - I have created a Windows shortcut for this, and given it the XWin.exe > icon by pointing the shortcut's icon selection to XWin.exe. > - I get a *separate* instance of the XWin icon when XWin starts up, > that is, separate from the run.exe one. > > What I would *like* is for the running instance of XWin.exe to be > considered as "having the same icon", so that I don't get two instances, > one for the run.exe shortcut and another for the running XWin. > > Is there another/better way I can arrange this? The start menu shortcut for starting XWin in multiwindow mode installed by the xinit package goes to some lengths to avoid lingering unnecessary windows whilst setting up the correct environment, so if you need a custom command line to invoke XWin, you should use that as a template. Obviously, if you are running XWin in windowed mode, you will have one taskbar item corresponding to the XWin window :-) -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From moss@cs.umass.edu Wed Jul 20 16:43:00 2011 From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: <4E26F420.5090508@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E25BC0D.1070404@cs.umass.edu> <4E26F420.5090508@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E26FAE5.8020004@cs.umass.edu> On 7/20/2011 11:28 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 19/07/2011 18:17, Eliot Moss wrote: >> On 7/19/2011 10:24 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: > The start menu shortcut for starting XWin in multiwindow mode installed by the > xinit package goes to some lengths to avoid lingering unnecessary windows > whilst setting up the correct environment, so if you need a custom command > line to invoke XWin, you should use that as a template. > > Obviously, if you are running XWin in windowed mode, you will have one taskbar > item corresponding to the XWin window :-) I am wondering if you're referring to the startxdcp.bat file or startxwin.exe (or maybe something else). My .bat file is patterned after a standard one, and my shortcut points to run.exe to run it. I suspect you mean something else :-) ... Thanks for your patience ... Eliot -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Wed Jul 20 17:04:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:04:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: <4E263CAE.50005@tlinx.org> References: <4E263CAE.50005@tlinx.org> Message-ID: <4E2705BB.3030205@dronecode.org.uk> On 20/07/2011 03:25, Linda Walsh wrote: > Jon TURNEY wrote: > >> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: >> >> *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 >> *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 > > ---- > How can I install 'just' those packages (from the command > line).... This is not currently possible from the command line, setup will always upgrade all packages to the current version even when some packages to install are explicitly specified. Ideally, setup wouldn't violate the principle of least surprise like that. > The GUI has no option to only install 1 package -- > it selects ALL, (100's of my packages want updates, but when I tried I > tried it last, I ended up with a completely non-function cygwin setup > (no bash, nada..., thank goddess I had a backup...) > > So now now, I tried going through and unselecting, but there > were too many and my wrists gave out.....and of course the GUI has > not KB-accelerators like shift-minus to unselect all, that I could find. > > Any easy way to cherry pick packages to install rather than being > forced fed entire updates all at once? However, I think there is a way to do it via the GUI without thousands of clicks. 1) Start setup as usual 2) On the "Select packages" page, click on the 'Keep' radio button 3) Locate the packages you wish to update and select the version to update to > the cmd line 'setup' claims to allow you to install, one package, but > then it went through the whole gui process and still had all the other > default packages installed!.... If you don't want to have to interact with the GUI, you have to use the -q command line option for unattended mode. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Thu Jul 21 05:16:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: <4E26FAE5.8020004@cs.umass.edu> References: <4E25BC0D.1070404@cs.umass.edu> <4E26F420.5090508@dronecode.org.uk> <4E26FAE5.8020004@cs.umass.edu> Message-ID: <4E270A6A.8060207@dronecode.org.uk> On 20/07/2011 16:57, Eliot Moss wrote: > On 7/20/2011 11:28 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> On 19/07/2011 18:17, Eliot Moss wrote: >>> On 7/19/2011 10:24 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: >> The start menu shortcut for starting XWin in multiwindow mode installed by the >> xinit package goes to some lengths to avoid lingering unnecessary windows >> whilst setting up the correct environment, so if you need a custom command >> line to invoke XWin, you should use that as a template. >> >> Obviously, if you are running XWin in windowed mode, you will have one taskbar >> item corresponding to the XWin window :-) > > I am wondering if you're referring to the startxmdcp.bat file or > startxwin.exe (or maybe something else). My .bat file is patterned > after a standard one, and my shortcut points to run.exe to run it. > I suspect you mean something else :-) ... startxwin.bat was honorably retired in xinit 1.2.0-2 [1],[2],[3], so there is no 'standard one' for you to copy anymore. If you inspect the start menu shortcut which xinit creates, you will see that it uses run to invoke bash -l -c to run startxwin.exe, which starts XWin with -multiwindow and any specified options and the clients in ~/.startxwinrc I know that sequence works for me to start XWin with no unneeded command windows. If it doesn't work for you, then that would be a bug in something. [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2009-12/msg00005.html [2] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-whereis-startxwin-bat [3] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cygwin@tlinx.org Thu Jul 21 14:06:00 2011 From: cygwin@tlinx.org (cygwin@tlinx.org) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:06:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.10.3-1 In-Reply-To: <4E2705BB.3030205@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E263CAE.50005@tlinx.org> <4E2705BB.3030205@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E27B5F8.1050701@tlinx.org> Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 20/07/2011 03:25, Linda Walsh wrote: >> Jon TURNEY wrote: >> >>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: >>> >>> *** xorg-server-1.10.3-1 >>> *** xorg-server-dmx-1.10.3-1 >> ---- >> How can I install 'just' those packages (from the command >> line).... > > This is not currently possible from the command line, setup will always > upgrade all packages to the current version even when some packages to install > are explicitly specified. > > Ideally, setup wouldn't violate the principle of least surprise like that. --- But I thought that's the way some of the Cygwin staff liked it? (principle of most surprise! ;-) ). It is sorta broken, since the docs claim to allow you to specify a package name to install on the cmd line. That it 'includes, automatically, all packages with updates is a real nasty gotcha... > However, I think there is a way to do it via the GUI without thousands of clicks. > > 1) Start setup as usual > 2) On the "Select packages" page, click on the 'Keep' radio button > 3) Locate the packages you wish to update and select the version to update to ---- AWESOME! Never noticed Keep as a global button there... > >> the cmd line 'setup' claims to allow you to install, one package, but >> then it went through the whole gui process and still had all the other >> default packages installed!.... > > If you don't want to have to interact with the GUI, you have to use the -q > command line option for unattended mode. --- Well.. I sometimes don't -- especially when wanting to do a single package update by name, thing is, would I end up with a similar problem with all packages being selected by default (or all that have updates)? or is the 'q' mode better about doing what the docs claim? -- i.e. allowing installing one package on the cmd line? Many thanks! for the keep-global alone!! linda -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ciro.vilchez@gft.com Thu Jul 21 17:11:00 2011 From: ciro.vilchez@gft.com (Ciro) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:11:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running graphic interface in a remote host Message-ID: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi, I posted this issue in the Cygwin forum and was advised to post it here: I've installed the new Gygwin set in my computer and I can't seem to start any graphic interface in a remote host, for instance: (C)SUMFO$ xclock & [1] 973 (C)SUMFO$ Xlib: connection to "xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0 [1] + Done(1) xclock & The DISPLAY variable is fine, I've enabled X11 forwarding (I've tried also without enabling this option): ForwardX11 yes but it's still failing, I've googled for this issue with cygwin but couldn't find anything, any help would be appreciated -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Problems-running-graphic-interface-in-a-remote-host-tp32107650p32107650.html Sent from the cygwin-xfree mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Thu Jul 21 17:30:00 2011 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:30:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running graphic interface in a remote host In-Reply-To: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20110721171047.GA11231@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:06:06AM -0700, Ciro wrote: > >Hi, I posted this issue in the Cygwin forum and was advised to post it here: > >I've installed the new Gygwin set in my computer and I can't seem to start >any graphic interface in a remote host, for instance: > >(C)SUMFO$ xclock & >[1] 973 >(C)SUMFO$ Xlib: connection to "xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0" refused by server >Xlib: No protocol specified > >Error: Can't open display: xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0 > >[1] + Done(1) xclock & > > >The DISPLAY variable is fine, I've enabled X11 forwarding (I've tried also >without enabling this option): > >ForwardX11 yes > >but it's still failing, I've googled for this issue with cygwin but couldn't >find anything, any help would be appreciated It sounds like you need to do "xhost +" on the remote host. Try googling "connection refused by server" for more information. This isn't a Cygwin problem. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ostroffjh@users.sourceforge.net Fri Jul 22 01:00:00 2011 From: ostroffjh@users.sourceforge.net (Jack) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:00:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running graphic interface in a remote host In-Reply-To: <20110721171047.GA11231@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> (from cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com on Thu Jul 21 13:10:47 2011) References: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> <20110721171047.GA11231@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <1311269199.18475.0@ffortso4> On 2011.07.21 13:10, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:06:06AM -0700, Ciro wrote: > > > >Hi, I posted this issue in the Cygwin forum and was advised to post > it here: > > > >I've installed the new Gygwin set in my computer and I can't seem to > start > >any graphic interface in a remote host, for instance: > > > >(C)SUMFO$ xclock & > >[1] 973 > >(C)SUMFO$ Xlib: connection to "xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0" refused by server > >Xlib: No protocol specified > > > >Error: Can't open display: xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0 > > > >[1] + Done(1) xclock & > > > > > >The DISPLAY variable is fine, I've enabled X11 forwarding (I've > tried also > >without enabling this option): > > > >ForwardX11 yes Where did you enable this? Have you enabled forwarding on both ends of the connection? How did you get to the remote host? Have you tried "ssh -Y" or "ssh -X" ? > > > >but it's still failing, I've googled for this issue with cygwin but > couldn't > >find anything, any help would be appreciated > > It sounds like you need to do "xhost +" on the remote host. Wouldn't that be doing "xhost +" on cygwin? It's the cygwin X server that's rejecting the connection. > > Try googling "connection refused by server" for more information. > > This isn't a Cygwin problem. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Andrew.DeFaria@tellabs.com Fri Jul 22 14:10:00 2011 From: Andrew.DeFaria@tellabs.com (Andrew DeFaria) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:10:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running graphic interface in a remote host In-Reply-To: <1311269199.18475.0@ffortso4> References: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> <20110721171047.GA11231@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <1311269199.18475.0@ffortso4> Message-ID: On 7/21/2011 10:26 AM, Jack wrote: > On 2011.07.21 13:10, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:06:06AM -0700, Ciro wrote: >> > >> >Hi, I posted this issue in the Cygwin forum and was advised to post >> it here: >> > >> >I've installed the new Gygwin set in my computer and I can't seem to >> start >> >any graphic interface in a remote host, for instance: >> > >> >(C)SUMFO$ xclock & >> >[1] 973 >> >(C)SUMFO$ Xlib: connection to "xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0" refused by server >> >Xlib: No protocol specified >> > >> >Error: Can't open display: xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0 >> > >> >[1] + Done(1) xclock & >> > >> > >> >The DISPLAY variable is fine, I've enabled X11 forwarding (I've >> tried also >> >without enabling this option): >> > >> >ForwardX11 yes > Where did you enable this? Have you enabled forwarding on both ends > of the connection? How did you get to the remote host? Have you > tried "ssh -Y" or "ssh -X" ? I've also seen that if DISPLAY was not set before you ssh then even ssh -X will not work. After you ssh -X to remote host, what does $DISPLAY contain? >> > >> >but it's still failing, I've googled for this issue with cygwin but >> couldn't >> >find anything, any help would be appreciated >> >> It sounds like you need to do "xhost +" on the remote host. > Wouldn't that be doing "xhost +" on cygwin? It's the cygwin X server > that's rejecting the connection. Indeed! >> >> Try googling "connection refused by server" for more information. >> >> This isn't a Cygwin problem. > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > -- Andrew DeFaria Taxation with representation isn't so hot, either! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Sat Jul 23 11:21:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:21:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running graphic interface in a remote host In-Reply-To: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4E2984C8.3010100@dronecode.org.uk> On 20/07/2011 12:18, Ciro wrote: > I'm running Cygwin/X, yes, I can run xterm or rxvt locally, in fact I could > run the graphic interface in the remote server until I installed the new > Cygwin/X. I'm not sur ewhat the problem could be. On 21/07/2011 15:06, Ciro wrote: > I've installed the new Gygwin set in my computer and I can't seem to start > any graphic interface in a remote host, for instance: > > (C)SUMFO$ xclock& > [1] 973 > (C)SUMFO$ Xlib: connection to "xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > Error: Can't open display: xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0 > > [1] + Done(1) xclock& > > > The DISPLAY variable is fine, I've enabled X11 forwarding (I've tried also > without enabling this option): > > ForwardX11 yes > > but it's still failing, I've googled for this issue with cygwin but couldn't > find anything, any help would be appreciated I still can't tell if you are using ssh forwarding or not. If you are using ssh forwarding, that DISPLAY setting is wrong, you should leave it at what sshd sets it to on the remote host (typically something like localhost:10.0) If you aren't using ssh forwarding (not recommended), you need to use xhost on the cygwin computer to allow access by the remote host (or equivalent actions) I'm not sure why this would have stopped working after upgrading X (although you don't say what version from). Perhaps you had added the X server -ac option in the script used to start the X server, which had been updated? [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html [2] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-ssh-no-x11forwarding -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From egerlach@aiai.de Sat Jul 23 12:26:00 2011 From: egerlach@aiai.de (egerlach@aiai.de) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: Shared memory support (MIT-SHM) in 1.7? Message-ID: <20110723112102.F303F1840268@dd23514.kasserver.com> Hi, I've read in http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-shared-memory.html hat cygwin supports shared memory, but: "Note: for Cygwin 1.5 only". I ask me whether the documentation refers only to older versions of cygwin or also to newer versions 1.6 and 1.7. Who knows the answer? If 1.7 does not support shared memory, so I have to install legacy version 1.5 (see http://www.cygwin.com/win-9x.html ), right? I've just installed the latest version 1.7.x , so I uninstall this version (by deleting c:\cygwin, right?) an I install the setup-legacy.exe , right? Why I need shared memory? - Because the extreme fast picture viewer kuickshow from KDE only works with shared memory, all picture are black. Kuckshow complains: Xlib: extension "MIT-SHM" missing on display "192.168.98.101:0.0". Other picture viewer are not so fast, so I urgently need kuickshow. thx Ekkard -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com Sat Jul 23 17:45:00 2011 From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:45:00 -0000 Subject: Shared memory support (MIT-SHM) in 1.7? In-Reply-To: <20110723112102.F303F1840268@dd23514.kasserver.com> References: <20110723112102.F303F1840268@dd23514.kasserver.com> Message-ID: <20110723122548.GA21326@calimero.vinschen.de> On Jul 23 13:21, egerlach@aiai.de wrote: > Hi, > I've read in http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-shared-memory.html hat cygwin supports shared memory, but: "Note: for Cygwin 1.5 only". I ask me whether the documentation refers only to older versions of cygwin or also to newer versions 1.6 and 1.7. > > Who knows the answer? > > If 1.7 does not support shared memory, so I have to install legacy version 1.5 (see http://www.cygwin.com/win-9x.html ), right? I've just installed the latest version 1.7.x , so I uninstall this version (by deleting c:\cygwin, right?) an I install the setup-legacy.exe , right? No. Read http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-shared-memory.html again. It says exactly what you need to do to get XSI shared memory running. The *note* is for 1.5 only. Corinna (*) Btw., named POSIX shared mem support is available since 1.7. It's a pity that MIT-SHM extension uses XSI, rather than POSIX shared memory, since you don't need cygserver for the POSIX implementation. -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From egerlach@aiai.de Sat Jul 23 22:25:00 2011 From: egerlach@aiai.de (Ekkard Gerlach) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:25:00 -0000 Subject: is latest 1.7.9-1 alpha status? Bugs, files missing, ..? Message-ID: <20110723174512.GA15382@rex4> Hi, i just installed latest 1.7.9-1 with setup.exe programm in WinXP Prof. I configured nothing so far. I ran startx -- -multiwindow -clipboard and it works, great! To enable shared memory (MIT-SHM) I ran Anmeld@AAnmeldung ~ cygserver-config /usr/bin/cygserver-config: line 6: $'\r': command not found /usr/bin/cygserver-config: line 10: $'\r': command not found /usr/bin/cygserver-config: line 13: $'\r': command not found /usr/bin/cygserver-config: line 14: syntax error near unexpected token `$'\r'' 'usr/bin/cygserver-config: line 14: `request() There seem to be DOS carriage returns in it. A little bug in 1.7.9-1 ? # cat cygserver-config | head -n 20 #!/bin/bash # # cygserver-config, Copyright 2003 Red Hat Inc. # # This file is part of the Cygwin DLL. # Directory where the config files are stored SYSCONFDIR=/etc LOCALSTATEDIR=/var progname=$0 auto_answer="" request() { if [ "${auto_answer}" = "yes" ] then echo "$1 (yes/no) yes" return 0 elif [ "${auto_answer}" = "no" ] okay, i run dos2unix cygserver-config on my linux machine (lenny). I copied cygserver-config back and it was running a little bit. I asked me whether I want to run cygserver as service, I answered "yes" the the script prompts: "line 176: cygrunsrv not existing" And indeed, cygrunsrv is not delivered in my installtion. Is 1.7.9-1 alpha status? - Why is this version advised for download and install? Where can I get a running version? How can I delete the installed version? - Deleting c:\cygwin directory? thx Ekkard -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From egerlach@aiai.de Sun Jul 24 02:43:00 2011 From: egerlach@aiai.de (Ekkard Gerlach) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:43:00 -0000 Subject: how to enable shared memory? In-Reply-To: <20110723174512.GA15382@rex4> References: <20110723174512.GA15382@rex4> Message-ID: <20110723222523.GA13309@rex4> I found some stuff on my own: searching "missing cygrunsrv" with google leaded me to a not installed package cygrunsrv. I started setup.exe again, selected the Admin -> cygrunsrv and installed the package. Now cygserver-config runs, asked me whether to start cygserver as service. I don't know why, I want to enabel shared memory only. The skript telled me to have generated /etc/cygserver.conf. I lookes at it: lots of options concerning shared mem. But I don't understand .. I uncommented some shared and shm stuff: kern.srv.sharedmem yes kern.ipc.shmmaxpgs 8192 kern.ipc.shmmni 192 kern.ipc.shmseg 128 After I stared cygwin again with startx -- -multiwindow , I typed "xhost +" so that kuickshow from a linux-Server can be displayed. But kuickshow png and jpg rest black. The script cygserver-config proposed me to start cygserver as service. The cygserver within den cygserver as service?? I don't understand. But I did so: net start cygserver or cygrunsrv -S cygserver was proposed, I took net start cygserver within a cygwin terminal. I got success messages. What is now better than before? I started kuickshow from linux server again. But png and jpg are still displayed black. Is shared memory enabled now? How can I detect settings? What have I to do to enabled shared memory? thx! Ekkard -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From moss@cs.umass.edu Sun Jul 24 08:11:00 2011 From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 08:11:00 -0000 Subject: how to enable shared memory? In-Reply-To: <20110723222523.GA13309@rex4> References: <20110723174512.GA15382@rex4> <20110723222523.GA13309@rex4> Message-ID: <4E2B86A8.90001@cs.umass.edu> On 7/23/2011 6:25 PM, Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > I found some stuff on my own: > > searching "missing cygrunsrv" with google leaded me to a > not installed package cygrunsrv. I started setup.exe again, > selected the Admin -> cygrunsrv and installed the package. > > Now cygserver-config runs, asked me whether to start cygserver > as service. I don't know why, I want to enabel shared memory only. While I am not knowledgeable in the details, I can (I hope) clear up that point: cygwin shm support requires a background server to help in the implementation. Regard -- Eliot Moss -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com Sun Jul 24 11:05:00 2011 From: cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:05:00 -0000 Subject: how to enable shared memory? In-Reply-To: <4E2B86A8.90001@cs.umass.edu> References: <20110723174512.GA15382@rex4> <20110723222523.GA13309@rex4> <4E2B86A8.90001@cs.umass.edu> Message-ID: <20110724060838.GA30984@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:42:48PM -0400, Eliot Moss wrote: >On 7/23/2011 6:25 PM, Ekkard Gerlach wrote: >> I found some stuff on my own: >> >> searching "missing cygrunsrv" with google leaded me to a >> not installed package cygrunsrv. I started setup.exe again, >> selected the Admin -> cygrunsrv and installed the package. >> >> Now cygserver-config runs, asked me whether to start cygserver >> as service. I don't know why, I want to enabel shared memory only. > >While I am not knowledgeable in the details, I can (I hope) >clear up that point: cygwin shm support requires a background >server to help in the implementation. Also, cygrunsrv != cygserver. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From egerlach@aiai.de Sun Jul 24 11:55:00 2011 From: egerlach@aiai.de (Ekkard Gerlach) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:55:00 -0000 Subject: how to enable shared memory? In-Reply-To: <20110724060838.GA30984@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> References: <20110723174512.GA15382@rex4> <20110723222523.GA13309@rex4> <4E2B86A8.90001@cs.umass.edu> <20110724060838.GA30984@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <20110724110536.GB24499@rex4> shared memory is indeed enabled with net start cygserver ! Starting "kuickshow" graphics viewer in a little bit newer version 0.8.13 instead of 0.8.6 works! The uncommented arguments enable shared memory, in WinXP "Services" there ist a cygserver serice started with net start cygserver. When I stop it in WinXP Services the kuickshow picture become black again, thats the proof. Unfortunately kuickshow in version 0.8.6 (Suse 9.2) doesn't work with cygwin share memory, maybe the older X-System of Suse 9.2 (xorg-6.8.1 ) ist the fault, I don't understand much of that. Perhaps somebody here has a further idea. Thx to all for all who participated, thx for help! Ekkard -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From egerlach@aiai.de Mon Jul 25 02:36:00 2011 From: egerlach@aiai.de (Ekkard Gerlach) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:36:00 -0000 Subject: multiwindow and "always-on-top" Message-ID: <20110724115459.GC24499@rex4> Hi, I start cygwin with "c:\cygwin\bin\XWin.exe -multiwindow -ac" on WinXP and I can send X programs. Works! Now want that the programs rest "always-on-top". Google detects not much about that item. Who can help? tia Ekkard -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net Mon Jul 25 10:12:00 2011 From: yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net (Yaakov (Cygwin/X)) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:12:00 -0000 Subject: multiwindow and "always-on-top" In-Reply-To: <20110724115459.GC24499@rex4> References: <20110724115459.GC24499@rex4> Message-ID: <1311561407.5552.1.camel@YAAKOV04> On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 13:54 +0200, Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > Hi, > I start cygwin with "c:\cygwin\bin\XWin.exe -multiwindow -ac" > on WinXP and I can send X programs. Works! > > Now want that the programs rest "always-on-top". > Google detects not much about that item. Who can help? http://x.cygwin.com/docs/man5/XWinrc.5.html See section "Style Instructions". Yaakov Cygwin/X -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From tobias.haeussler@gmx.de Mon Jul 25 11:20:00 2011 From: tobias.haeussler@gmx.de (=?windows-1252?Q?Tobias_H=E4u=DFler?=) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:20:00 -0000 Subject: Taskbar grouping in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4E259FF7.5060804@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E05D930.6090305@gmx.de> <4E0B27DA.20701@dronecode.org.uk> <4E0E303B.9000802@gmx.de> <4E259FF7.5060804@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E2D417E.1060500@gmx.de> On 19.07.2011 17:17, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 01/07/2011 21:38, Tobias H??u??ler wrote: >> On 29/06/2011 15:25, Jon TURNEY wrote: >>> On 25/06/2011 13:48, Tobias H??u??ler wrote: >>>> I created a small patch for XWin that adds correct grouping of taskbar >>>> icons when 'Always combine, hide labels' is set in the taskbar >>>> properties. It uses the new taskbar APIs introduced in Windows 7 to set >>>> an application id for each window. The id is based on the X11 class hints. >>>> Maybe it is useful for someone... >>> >>> Firstly, thanks very much for this patch. >>> >>> Getting Windows to correctly group XWin windows on the taskbar is something >>> that has needed fixing for a while, so it's great to have it done :-) >> >> Thanks for your suggestions! I changed the code you mentioned. > > Thanks. I've included this patch into the 1.10.3-1 package. > > I noticed that there are a couple of warnings issued when building > >> CC winmultiwindowwm.o >> In file included from winmultiwindowwm.c:69:0: >> taskbar.h:59:19: warning: ??IID_IPropertyStore?? initialized and declared ??extern?? >> taskbar.h:67:53: warning: ??PKEY_AppUserModel_ID?? initialized and declared ??extern?? > > This seems to be related to the nonsense that is INITGUID. I'm not sure how > to fix this warning. Would moving all the GUIDs we use (including the DirectX > ones we use) to a separate file and compiling that with INITGUID defined be > the correct solution? I don't know the right way to deal with that, but it seems to work if taskbar.h is included in a separate .c-file with INITGUID defined, and in winmultiwindowwm.c without: --- taskbar.c: #define INITGUID #include #include #include "taskbar.h" --- winmultiwindowwm.c: #include "taskbar.h" The current solution produces this warning because of the declaration of DEFINE_GUID in basetyps.h and initguid.h: DEFINE_GUID with INITGUID in basetyps.h resolves to: const GUID IID_IPropertyStore = {a,b,c,...} DEFINE_GUID without INITGUID in basetyps.h resolves to: extern const GUID IID_IPropertyStore; DEFINE_GUID with INITGUID in initguid.h resolves to: (extern) const GUID IID_IPropertyStore = {a,b,c,...} Whether extern is appended or not depends on basetyps.h, which is included before initguid.h. Including initguid.h (with INITGUID defined) after basetyps.h appends "= {a,b,c}", but does not remove "extern". In winmultiwindowwm.c this is the case, as basetyps.h is included by objbase.h before initguid.h. The DirectX-GUIDs are initialized in the lib*.a-files of w32api, therefore INITGUID is not necessary and the warnings are not present. As soon as w32api contains the GUID for IID_IPropertyStore, taskbar.c with INITGUID can be removed. > > The other thing I noticed is that PropVariantClear() has been provided by > ole32.dll since at least NT4, so there's no need to dynamically link with it. > So I'm confused as to why you are using GetProcAddress for that? > PropVariantClear() is not declared in the header files of w32api, so I had to link it dynamically. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ciro.vilchez@gft.com Tue Jul 26 13:21:00 2011 From: ciro.vilchez@gft.com (Ciro) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:21:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running graphic interface in a remote host In-Reply-To: <4E2984C8.3010100@dronecode.org.uk> References: <32107650.post@talk.nabble.com> <4E2984C8.3010100@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: <32130876.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi, I found the issue, xhost wasn't automatically installed so I had to do it manually and run it form my host. Now it works. I've tried also connecting with ssh forwarding before, but when I issue ssh -Y my keyboard is not working properly anymore, I think I need to use the setxkbmap option, but I'm fine connecting without the ssh forwarding. Thanks for your help. Jon TURNEY wrote: > > On 20/07/2011 12:18, Ciro wrote: > > I'm running Cygwin/X, yes, I can run xterm or rxvt locally, in fact I > could > > run the graphic interface in the remote server until I installed the > new > > Cygwin/X. I'm not sur ewhat the problem could be. > > On 21/07/2011 15:06, Ciro wrote: >> I've installed the new Gygwin set in my computer and I can't seem to >> start >> any graphic interface in a remote host, for instance: >> >> (C)SUMFO$ xclock& >> [1] 973 >> (C)SUMFO$ Xlib: connection to "xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0" refused by server >> Xlib: No protocol specified >> >> Error: Can't open display: xx.xxx.xx.xxx:0.0 >> >> [1] + Done(1) xclock& >> >> >> The DISPLAY variable is fine, I've enabled X11 forwarding (I've tried >> also >> without enabling this option): >> >> ForwardX11 yes >> >> but it's still failing, I've googled for this issue with cygwin but >> couldn't >> find anything, any help would be appreciated > > I still can't tell if you are using ssh forwarding or not. > > If you are using ssh forwarding, that DISPLAY setting is wrong, you should > leave it at what sshd sets it to on the remote host (typically something > like > localhost:10.0) > > If you aren't using ssh forwarding (not recommended), you need to use > xhost > on the cygwin computer to allow access by the remote host (or equivalent > actions) > > I'm not sure why this would have stopped working after upgrading X > (although > you don't say what version from). Perhaps you had added the X server -ac > option in the script used to start the X server, which had been updated? > > [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html > [2] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-ssh-no-x11forwarding > > -- > Jon TURNEY > Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Problems-running-graphic-interface-in-a-remote-host-tp32107650p32130876.html Sent from the cygwin-xfree mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From hiking_feil@yahoo.com Thu Jul 28 15:33:00 2011 From: hiking_feil@yahoo.com (Howard Feil) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:33:00 -0000 Subject: X server shutdown or killed/destroyed Message-ID: <1311686439.44436.YahooMailNeo@web161429.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I have installed cygwin on several windows XP 32bit machines.? To do the install I used the defaults and then installed all of X11 and Networks.? After a little while when opening a new windows, I get the error: The application 'gedit' lost its connection to the display localhost:11.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application. It doesn't matter what I do next, nothing simple makes the x-server come back alive.? This is happening on multiple machines.? For some reasons I have other machines that never have a problem.? These machines may have older installations. Any advice is appreciated. Howard -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk Thu Jul 28 15:47:00 2011 From: jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk (Jon TURNEY) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:47:00 -0000 Subject: X server shutdown or killed/destroyed In-Reply-To: <1311686439.44436.YahooMailNeo@web161429.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1311686439.44436.YahooMailNeo@web161429.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E318140.7030602@dronecode.org.uk> On 26/07/2011 14:20, Howard Feil wrote: > I have installed cygwin on several windows XP 32bit machines. To do the install I used the defaults and then installed all of X11 and > Networks. After a little while about 20 minutes? > when opening a new windows, I get the > error: > > > The application 'gedit' lost its connection to the display localhost:11.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > > It doesn't matter what I do next, nothing simple makes the x-server come back alive. > > This > is happening on multiple machines. For some reasons I have other > machines that never have a problem. These machines may have older > installations. > > > Any advice is appreciated. Use ssh -Y [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-05/msg00394.html -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From moss@cs.umass.edu Fri Jul 29 07:17:00 2011 From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:17:00 -0000 Subject: A question about program icons ... Message-ID: <4E318481.4010501@cs.umass.edu> Recently I started using startxwin and .XWinrc and am getting used to -multiwindow mode. Something I have been wondering is where the program icons actually come from. For example, I cannot for the life of me find the icons used for xemacs (has a little red XE in it) or xpdf (black background, stylized red X and stylized white pdf). Any hints? I've searched the usual places, and they don't seem to be mentioned in the start menu builder either ... Regards -- Eliot Moss -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From rcsaba@gmail.com Fri Jul 29 11:04:00 2011 From: rcsaba@gmail.com (Csaba Raduly) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:04:00 -0000 Subject: A question about program icons ... In-Reply-To: <4E318481.4010501@cs.umass.edu> References: <4E318481.4010501@cs.umass.edu> Message-ID: Hi Eliot, On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: > Recently I started using startxwin and .XWinrc and am > getting used to -multiwindow mode. ?Something I have been > wondering is where the program icons actually come from. > For example, I cannot for the life of me find the icons > used for xemacs (has a little red XE in it) or xpdf > (black background, stylized red X and stylized white pdf). Right-click, Properties, Change Icon... will bring up a dialog which allows you to change the source of the icon, with the current source filled in. Csaba -- GCS a+ e++ d- C++ ULS$ L+$ !E- W++ P+++$ w++$ tv+ b++ DI D++ 5++ The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers. Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts. "Ok, it boots. Which means it must be bug-free and perfect. " -- Linus Torvalds "People disagree with me. I just ignore them." -- Linus Torvalds -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From moss@cs.umass.edu Fri Jul 29 14:10:00 2011 From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:10:00 -0000 Subject: A question about program icons ... In-Reply-To: References: <4E318481.4010501@cs.umass.edu> Message-ID: <4E32939D.9060102@cs.umass.edu> On 7/29/2011 3:16 AM, Csaba Raduly wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: >> Recently I started using startxwin and .XWinrc and am >> getting used to -multiwindow mode. Something I have been >> wondering is where the program icons actually come from. >> For example, I cannot for the life of me find the icons >> used for xemacs (has a little red XE in it) or xpdf >> (black background, stylized red X and stylized white pdf). > > Right-click, Properties, Change Icon... > will bring up a dialog which allows you to change the source of the > icon, with the current source filled in. Dear Csaba -- I appreciate your effort to be helpful. In this case I already know how to change an icon that is directly associated with a program file or shortcut. However, these programs do not seem to have an icon associated in the usual way, and even their normal icon is not what cygwin-xfree displays in the toolbar. For example, xemacs from the Windows dialog does not show any icon or offer a way to set one. The shortcut to it that is in the Cygwin X menu does associate an icon and allow you to change it, but the icon that is in the toolbar is not one of the ones offered. The startxwin/.XWinrc mechanisms are looking somewhere else, and I was asking where that is. Even the default files that build the menus and such do not mention the xemacs and xpdf icons that I actually see ... Regards -- Eliot -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From rcsaba@gmail.com Fri Jul 29 19:48:00 2011 From: rcsaba@gmail.com (Csaba Raduly) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:48:00 -0000 Subject: A question about program icons ... In-Reply-To: <4E318481.4010501@cs.umass.edu> References: <4E318481.4010501@cs.umass.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: > Recently I started using startxwin and .XWinrc and am > getting used to -multiwindow mode. ?Something I have been > wondering is where the program icons actually come from. > For example, I cannot for the life of me find the icons > used for xemacs (has a little red XE in it) That seems to be /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.22/etc/xemacs-icon.xpm and xemacs appears to set it programatically. When started from mintty, the xemach window has the generic Cywgin-X icon, then switches to the red XE icon after it gets initialized. xemacs is just a shortcut: $ ls -l /bin/xemacs lrwxrwxrwx 1 ecsardu root 18 Jul 29 15:41 /bin/xemacs -> xemacs-21.4.22.exe* When started from a windows shortcut pointing to xemacs-21.4.22.exe, it shows up with the icon of xemacs-21.4.22.exe and does not change (because there is no DISPLAY in my Windows environment). Csaba -- GCS a+ e++ d- C++ ULS$ L+$ !E- W++ P+++$ w++$ tv+ b++ DI D++ 5++ The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers. Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts. "Ok, it boots. Which means it must be bug-free and perfect. " -- Linus Torvalds "People disagree with me. I just ignore them." -- Linus Torvalds -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From moss@cs.umass.edu Sat Jul 30 06:10:00 2011 From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:10:00 -0000 Subject: A question about program icons ... In-Reply-To: References: <4E318481.4010501@cs.umass.edu> Message-ID: <4E330E65.9010901@cs.umass.edu> Thanks for the tip about .xpm files! -- Eliot -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From jan.chludzinski@gmail.com Sun Jul 31 18:54:00 2011 From: jan.chludzinski@gmail.com (Jan Chludzinski) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:54:00 -0000 Subject: Problem starting XWin Server In-Reply-To: <4E25A34D.8070003@dronecode.org.uk> References: <4E1D8DBA.2040409@dronecode.org.uk> <4E25A34D.8070003@dronecode.org.uk> Message-ID: From within a mintty shell, I get: $ startxwin giving up. startxwin: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server error. ---Jan On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: > On 14/07/2011 10:29, Jan Chludzinski wrote: >> First, THANKS! >> >> ? ? $ startxwin >> ? ? giving up. >> ? ? startxwin: ?No such file or directory (errno 2): ?unable to >> connect to X server >> ? ? startxwin: ?No such process (errno 3): ?Server error. > > Sorry, I hadn't quite grasped that is the whole of the output. > > For obscure technical reasons, the output of XWin doesn't appear in a cmd.exe > terminal if cygwin wasn't started with CYGWIN=tty. > > Can I suggest you install mintty, and try running startxwin from that, which > should produce some more informative output. > > It looks like Cygwin/X FAQ 2.4 could do with some improvement :-) > >> The server is never started - no process in the Windows "Resource >> Monitor". ?When I try to start xedit (or whatever X based app) nothing >> happens, nothing appears. >> >> As for FAQ, I'm afraid I don't see anything that might help. ?I looked >> before I posted the original e-mail. >> >> ---John >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: >>> On 12/07/2011 09:10, Jan Chludzinski wrote: >>>> I just did a complete installation of X11 from Cygwin 1.7 setup.exe. >>>> But when I try to start the "XWin Server" using the "Start" menu >>>> nothing happens. ?If I try either "startxwin" or "startx" or "xinit" >>>> from the BASH shell I get: >>>> >>>> giving up. >>>> startxwin: ?No such file or directory (errno 2): ?unable to connect to X server >>>> startxwin: ?No such process (errno 3): ?Server error. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> Looking at the XWin.0.log you attached, it looks like the X server is starting >>> up successfully. >>> >>> If clients are unable to connect, this might be due to firewall configuration >>> or other software which interferes with cygwin sockets (see [1] in the >>> Cygwin/X FAQ for some suggestions) >>> >>> [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-cannot-open-display > > -- > Jon TURNEY > Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/