rootless mode and mousing to other windows

[Thomas Chadwick]

There was some discussion on the list a while back regarding this very 
thing.  They are now using the win32-x11 mailing list.  Here's a message 
announcing the genesis of the project:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/win32-x11/2002-q3/msg00019.html

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>To: "Thomas Chadwick" <j_tetazoo@hotmail.com>,   "Harold L Hunt II" 
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>Subject: RE: rootless mode and mousing to other windows
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>Thomas Chadwick wrote:
> > Is it as simple as patching XWin to call XSetInputFocus() with a focus
> > argument of "None" when MS Windows informs it that it has lost focus?
>
>That's the type of thing I was hoping for.
>
>
>Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> > I don't think that such interaction between the X Windows window manager
> > and, essentially, the Windows window manager is going to be useful in
> > the end, and it would be overly complicated to implement such an interim
> > solution.
>
>Is that really a fair assessment? For Windows interaction,
>I'm only talking about hooking into the focus events. This
>would be a useful addition even without rootless mode or
>true Windows integration. And it looks like those events
>are already hooked in order to deal with keyboard modes.
>Which needs some debugging anyway, since X sometimes gets
>confused about caps lock (granted I've seen this on Sun
>workstations also, but not in a very long time).
>
>If there's any complexity, it's purely on the X side, and
>IMO it's something that should be addressed if it hasn't
>already. Shouldn't there be a way to tell X that you've
>removed focus from it entirely?
>
> > Remember that the ultimate solution is to write calls that make Windows
> > the window manager for our X apps, so your concern would no longer be an
> > issue.
> >
> > I urge you to focus on the later solution, rather than trying to send
> > signals between two window managers.
>
>That's a bit too much for me to get involved in right now.
>Besides, I'm not really interested in using the "Windows
>shell" for managing X-Windows.
>
>Ultimately, what you really want is the ability to go both
>ways--let X applications be managed by Windows and let
>Windows applications be managed by X window managers (like
>LiteStep only allowing X calls all the way down--I think
>LiteStep uses GTK or something). Of course, this can get a
>bit complicated, especially when the services aren't quite
>the same between Windows and X.
>
>But I suspect others with more experience in XFree86 are
>already thinking about these things. For now, I wanted to
>start small.
>
>-Jerry


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